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97 Pensions Bill [Lords]<br />

20 JUNE 2011<br />

Pensions Bill [Lords]<br />

98<br />

as compensation for low pay is outmoded now. The pay<br />

gap has not only narrowed but reversed.<br />

Figures from Policy Exchange for the past year show<br />

that the average public sector worker is now paid 35% an<br />

hour more than the average private sector worker, and<br />

Office for National Statistics figures tell us that in the<br />

year before that, the average public sector worker earned<br />

£2,000 more per annum than his or her private sector<br />

equivalent. Today private sector workers are worse paid,<br />

have less security of tenure, and have more fragile<br />

pensions than their public sector equivalents, but under<br />

the current arrangements they are expected to subsidise<br />

the more generous final salary pensions in the bloated<br />

public sector. They are understandably embittered, as,<br />

paradoxically, are the public sector workers, many of<br />

whose jobs were created by the last Government. They<br />

now feel threatened.<br />

But deal with the pensions time bomb we must. The<br />

private sector has absorbed many shocks. So that we<br />

can survive the economic downturn, pensions, along<br />

with salaries and bonuses, have been hit hard. Final<br />

salary pensions are fast becoming a distant memory,<br />

even in larger firms, and new employer rules on automatic<br />

pensions enrolment which are due to come into force<br />

next year are likely to have further detrimental effects.<br />

The public sector, however, needs a culture change.<br />

The current arrangements are simply unsustainable and<br />

unaffordable. The bottom line is that we all need to pay<br />

more into our pensions for longer, which means that the<br />

age at which we retire will be higher: it will be 66 by<br />

April 2020. The last Government legislated for that, but<br />

their legislation will be accelerated by this Bill. We will<br />

also need to supplement what we already pay with<br />

increased contributions.<br />

We are told by Treasury Ministers that if we make<br />

these changes now, there is a chance of a decent and<br />

relatively generous pension for all entitled public sector<br />

workers. We are also assured that 750,000 of the lowest-paid<br />

public sector workers will not be asked to pay more, and<br />

that the extra contributions of another 500,000 will be<br />

capped. I am relieved to hear that the pensions of those<br />

who risk their lives serving their country—members of<br />

the police, fire service and military—will be protected.<br />

Raising the state pension age to 66 and upwards will<br />

take years to implement, even on the revised timetable,<br />

and I am anxious to ensure that some worthy recipients<br />

do not slip through the net. Like others who have<br />

spoken today, I have received many letters and e-mails<br />

from people who are very concerned about the proposals.<br />

Mainly they are from women. The equalisation of the<br />

pension age, causing theirs to rise from 60 to 65, and the<br />

subsequent acceleration causing it to rise to 66 by 2020,<br />

appear to have left some unintended victims by the<br />

wayside. I ask the Secretary of State and the Treasury to<br />

think again about those cases.<br />

In particular, women in their late 50s who were told<br />

to prepare for retirement at 65 have now seen the<br />

goalposts moved again. Overall, 5.5 million women<br />

now aged between 51 and 57 are affected to a greater or<br />

lesser degree, and 330,000 of them— those given less<br />

than two years’ notice of the change—are particularly<br />

badly affected. There will not be enough time for the<br />

women caught up in the scheme to save enough to<br />

address their loss. Many are among the lower-paid,<br />

40% have private pensions, and many part-timers were<br />

excluded from occupational pension schemes until the<br />

1990s. Moreover, members of that age group are more<br />

likely to be economically inactive owing to caring<br />

responsibilities. Perhaps an interim measure can be<br />

introduced to ensure that they are paid what they have<br />

worked for, and that the longer gap before they reach<br />

the state pension age does not cause unnecessary hardship.<br />

After all, those women worked through the years of<br />

genuinely lower pay in the expectation of a comfortable<br />

retirement, only to see it evaporate.<br />

What matters most in this debate is to find a way to<br />

make our pensions fairer, more affordable and as generous<br />

as possible, while taking into account the changes in life<br />

span and the sheer numbers involved. I know that that<br />

is the intention, but now, for all our sakes and those of<br />

our constituents, we must make it a reality.<br />

8.5 pm<br />

Debbie Abrahams (Oldham East and Saddleworth)<br />

(Lab): Like other Members, I am encouraged by the<br />

agreement across the Chamber, particularly on issues<br />

related to fairness that mostly affect women. We agree,<br />

for instance, that we are all living longer and therefore<br />

need to extend our working lives. Contrary to what the<br />

hon. Member for South Dorset (Richard Drax) said,<br />

the last Labour Government took that into account in<br />

the Pensions Act 2007, following the recommendations<br />

of the Turner commission.<br />

My right hon. Friend the Member for Croydon North<br />

(Malcolm Wicks) made a relevant point about variations<br />

in life expectancy connected with socio-economic<br />

inequalities, and about the time for which people in a<br />

healthy condition can expect to live. I agree that more<br />

research should be done on that.<br />

Harriett Baldwin: The hon. Lady mentioned the<br />

steps that the last Government took to deal with increasing<br />

longevity. Does she agree that the figures produced by<br />

the original Turner commission suggest that things are<br />

moving much faster than was anticipated even in 2004,<br />

and that since then longevity has increased by at least a<br />

year?<br />

Debbie Abrahams: I think that the hon. Lady is<br />

referring to the average. It is important for us to consider<br />

not just the average, but how the figure is spread across<br />

different socio-economic groups. It does not explain or<br />

excuse the Government’s failure to protect the women<br />

who are being detrimentally affected by the acceleration<br />

of the equalisation of the pension age.<br />

As many people have pointed out, this is about<br />

fairness. We must focus on what is right, and the Bill<br />

fails the fairness test. Many figures have been cited in<br />

relation to what the Bill means nationally. Half a million<br />

women will have to wait more than a year longer to<br />

receive their state pensions, 300,000 will have to wait an<br />

additional 18 months, and an unfortunate 33,000 will<br />

have to wait a further two years. Moreover, the Government<br />

will increase the state pension age for both men and<br />

women to 66 in 2018.<br />

I asked the House of Commons Library to conduct<br />

an analysis of the impact in my constituency. I discovered<br />

that 4,300 women and 3,800 men would be affected,<br />

and that approximately 200 women would experience a<br />

notional loss of income from their state pensions of up<br />

to £10,700. I have been contacted by dozens of women

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