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kind <strong>of</strong> a mystery place anyway, no railro<strong>at</strong>is. And th<strong>at</strong>'s one thing they'd - "Oh, yes, we're<br />

heard about it, no railroads," and n<strong>at</strong>urally I don't want to repe<strong>at</strong> wh<strong>at</strong> else they'd say about<br />

it but a few things.<br />

And I could talk with authority because I had made a few bucks. I was pretty sure <strong>of</strong> myself<br />

because I was doing business and making money. And I had some confidence th<strong>at</strong> I wasn't<br />

afraid to walk into a hank and talk to a banker too because I didn't owe them anything. Or<br />

if I did, I was big enough th<strong>at</strong> I could pay it <strong>of</strong>f or vice versa, and they were wanting my<br />

business worse than I needed them. And I think th<strong>at</strong> helped a whole lot, if you had<br />

confidence. Where if you had an inferiority complex, it hurts you when you walk in. But<br />

I was pretty confident in myself then.<br />

Q: Did driving the Cadillac help up there in th<strong>at</strong> area?<br />

A: Yes it helped all th? time. A lot <strong>of</strong> my ad\zisors <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time said, "You ought to get<br />

a little car to drive in." But I had back trouhle anyway, all <strong>of</strong> my life I had trouble -<br />

and th<strong>at</strong>'s a far drive. I drove Cadillacs and it seemed like th<strong>at</strong> did help me in my particular<br />

position. They knew I was in business and they figured, I guess, "Well hell if he's in business,<br />

if he isn't worth a damn" - Iike several <strong>of</strong> them remarked. One gub- thought. "You can<br />

tell wh<strong>at</strong> type <strong>of</strong> man he is by the type <strong>of</strong> a dog he drives. A lot <strong>of</strong> them \vould say, "Well<br />

hell I'll take a chance on him. Hell if he can make any money for himself, he'll leave a<br />

little for me," or something like th<strong>at</strong>. You know, if you made any money. they thought you<br />

was crooked anyway, a lot <strong>of</strong> people did. So you figure, "Well if he does steal some, he'll<br />

leave us have some <strong>of</strong> it," or something like th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

Q: Wh<strong>at</strong> about other places up in th<strong>at</strong> direction, like Pittsfield for example? Did you<br />

A: Pittsfield I had some friends up there who - let's see, was I - I associ<strong>at</strong>ed indirectly<br />

with them beforehand in some business deals. A fello\v by the name <strong>of</strong> Lee Newman who<br />

was head <strong>of</strong> production credit. I alxvays had an in. Th<strong>at</strong> was lucky to pet in with the key<br />

people, financial people, it seemed Iike for some reason or other. Not th<strong>at</strong> I had any maneshut<br />

I had some dealings with them. And he was head <strong>of</strong> the production credit and n<strong>at</strong>urally<br />

had contacts in those days as there was a lot <strong>of</strong> farmers and u-hen he went artrund to visit<br />

the farmer, he could say, "Well he's a pretty good guy. 1 believe I'd rote for him." We'll<br />

hought a few pieces <strong>of</strong> property together. And had many dealings together.<br />

And let's see, hot\- elscb would I - contacts did I have in Pittsfield? When I first started<br />

out, I didn't have tnu much outside <strong>of</strong> him. But I'd easily acrguired a lot <strong>of</strong> help. I'll tell<br />

you xh<strong>at</strong> helped in Quincy. was th<strong>at</strong> Quincy was envious <strong>of</strong> Adams County, and . . .<br />

Q: Oh?<br />

A: . . . see dams County always had the represent<strong>at</strong>ive. And I'ike ~vonld like to had one<br />

down in this area.<br />

A: Th<strong>at</strong> helped some too.<br />

Q. Well let's see now, Jacksonville wasn't in the district <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time.<br />

A: Jackson\ille wasn't in there the first tlrne I ran<br />

Q: Wh<strong>at</strong> trther centers were there besides Quincy and I'ittsfield?<br />

A: We had Scott County, Winchester. Winrhester was a n<strong>at</strong>ural for me. Those type <strong>of</strong><br />

people just fit right in hecause they were small, we were small and they could never get<br />

Carl Wittmond Memoir -- <strong>Archives</strong>/<strong>Special</strong> <strong>Collections</strong>, <strong>University</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Illinois</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Springfield</strong>

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