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A: Well I don't knor~ where he was assigned. He was fruni Quincy at that timc. IIe iras out of Quincy. Q' Must ha\e been the Corps of Enginrrrs then A: I can't recall anymore. Colonel somebody - he's a colonel. I rmmenrbrr that hecause . . Q: So you were just the wrong age for both of thr wars then? 21: Yes. Both the wars yes. I rvns wanting to get in but I was always looking for sonrething. I thought I would like to get into things. I wanted to he a part of it. I thought it would be a real good education for ttre to get around to learn so~nething. t~ut I nvver pot in. Q: Well let's see now you graduated - nhat year did >ou graduate from Quinry College'.' A: I didn't get to graduate. I had to quit school. IvIy dad, couldn't afford to let nrr pu anymore. I would have graduated I guess in another year, or half a year. And things got so tough I start peddling apples then. In fact, I was peddlinp apples before then, hut 1 got into this business, then took it over. Q: Yes vou \rent into that. That xas \rhrre you pitked up the apples. he grounri al~ples'! h: Yes, and sold therrr. Q: These, I guess you'd call theni political activities - dill you helong ti, the sihool h(1a1.d here at one tirne? A: Belongrd at one tirne yes Q: Hen did you come to get on the school hoard' A: Well, until later years we didn't have a schuol hoard here. All we h;id was a 1);lrorhial school, which war really rhe main school. The others was littir country schools. )ou know they had eighteen, twenty pupils to a schoi~l. Priest herr rras rral activc in thr sthool.
Q: LVell hou did he po about getting the support? A: How he did? Q: Yes. .4: LVell he picked his men. He alsays pirked out the opposite faith on his school board. see. .And then he had control vf it anyxv:~>-. And he could get thenr to do nhatcver hr wanted to, su then he was a pretty good politirian hinrself. Q: \$-ell let's see, 1 don't quite understand nun-. LYas there a rrgular nonparuchial schools at that tinrr also? A: But they weren't set up like the! ar? today. \Ye just had a school - we had one m;u: mas elected on some little board or sunlething. I can't recall rnuch :ibout it. There wasn't nu~ch to art - that didn't amount to an)-thing. You \verrn't considerrd wry imliortant on that board until n-is got this operation. It was really nnt considered to he in any official capacity on the school. Q: IYhvn (lid you get inrolrcll nith it'.' A: e l 1 seen the n~c~ssity, ~IIII- hhadirapprrl xvc xvere when I n.;~.; to go lo school. and 1 kind of wanted t11r rest of the people here, the younger people, to have a better chance to go to school than 1 had. At least to get a high school education Irecause aroun(1 here it's difficult to go out here an11 get a job. You know. that's the first thing they, in later yrars, they ask you, if you xvenl to high school. If you iliiin't have a high srhool, you couldn't get a jot). So then ar hati ;I hart1 time. \Ye hat1 to finance this too oursrlvvs. We sold some 11onds kind 1 renieniber huying sonip or the bontis. ant1 there n-as a lot of jr;ilousy then 1)erause of the hanks here an11 Harrlin up - H;irtiin Rank (li~ln't lhink they were worth anything i~rrausr they didn't haw a rntirrg. N:iturall) y1,11 cr,ulrln't get a rating on anything. I know one Iinlr I ~~-;intcri to niakr a li,;,n i)n the111 onw. Sotrir of thcnl, nrellrd sonic nirllrq. An11 rrird to us
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University of Illinois at Springfie
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CARL WIITMOND ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REP
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orrrniilnity in central Illinois. A
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Carl Wittmond SESSION I, TAPE 1, SI
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A: Yes. Q: Okay. And then your fath
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County that had a spur on this side
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A: It's peculiar how you always rem
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Q: I see. (chuckles) A: Out of the
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A: . . . and he took care of you. A
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A: Oh yes. You'd have a showboat he
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A: Yes it really happened. This thi
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my motber had to scrape around here
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that's how narrow people are you kn
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you know. It wasn't too prosperous.
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A: Well, I guess it was. I guess 1
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to stay all night to go to a show a
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A: I guess that just becamea a knac
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Page 131 and 132: district. Powell said, "YIIu'~ h~tt
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you ran't beat." I said, "Some day
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:I: Yes I ren~ernher that. :I: I pr
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.A: Yes. they was \.otiny and vice
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Q: What was your position on that?
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Q Did she usually do it at your des
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a lot of the cunstituents don't un~
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A: Yes I remember him Q: \Ye11 let'
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11: 011 I never did get excited ove
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'1: Oh 1 probahl) thought there wer
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to hlock it if he wanted to. So man
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it would he alright or whatever the
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Q: Yes. A somrthing. fle might have
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Q: Well let's see, he lived in Edwa
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Q: Oh, I see. A: Ht. thought that 1
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in the Granite City area - he was t
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:I: Oh yes, oh yes Q: What other ro
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So I put the bill in anyway to get
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A: . . . get credit for it, see, if
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A: I ctin't rrcall anymore \\.hat i
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A: hutuhahn, over in . . . Q: Germa
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Q: Well. Do you recall any particul
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I'd voted for the bill. That would
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Q: Let's see, the Zion [Illinois Be
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:\: Ile nrust not have run ;my more
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A: Wide open sparrs, that's right.
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Q: I'd like to ask first today abwt
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.A: Yes 1 can rt,call something of
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Q: Oh. He wanted the department you
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kno~r-. (;- I could have got on but
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who knrn. sonrething ahuut agrirult
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.A: \Vr ~ntrrtainzd several - one t
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town. And a lot of people was compl
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:I: Oh, n-c went a few other places
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.A: Not at that timc but they promo
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some of then1 - hut their unions ar
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sonielhing happened. I think I had
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Index .Ahl.nhani Lincoln Hl~tcal. 1
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Hinan, Martin, 79 IIitler, Adolph,
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