THE REPUBLIC OF PLATO - Studyplace
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32 CHAPTER IV [I. 349<br />
make themsdves masters of whole cities and nations. Perhaps you<br />
think I was talking of pickpockets. There is profit even in that<br />
trade, if you can escape detection; but it doesn't come to much<br />
as compared with the gains I was describing.<br />
I understand you now on that point, I replied. What astonished<br />
me was that you should class injustice with superior character and<br />
intdligence and justice with the reverse.<br />
Well, I do, he rejoined.<br />
That is a much more stubborn position, my friend; and it is<br />
not so easy to see how to assail it. If you would admit that injustice,<br />
however well it pays, is nevertheless, as some people think, a<br />
defect and a discreditable thing, then we could argue on generally •<br />
accepted principles. But now that you have gone so far as to rank<br />
it with superior character and intelligence, obviously you will say<br />
it is an admirable thing as well as a source of strength, and has<br />
all the other qualities we have attributed to justice.<br />
You read my thoughts like a book, he replied.<br />
However, I went on, it is no good shirking; I must go through<br />
with the argument, so long as I can be sure you are really speaking<br />
your mind. I do believe you are not playing with us now, Thrasy~<br />
machus, but stating the truth as you conceive it.<br />
Why not refute the doctrine he said. What does it matter to you<br />
whether I bdieve it or not<br />
It does not matter, I replied.<br />
[Socrates attacks separately three points in Thrasymachus' posi~<br />
tion: (I) that the unjust is superior to the just in character ('virtue')<br />
and intelligence; (2) that injustice is a source of strength;<br />
(3) that it brings happiness.<br />
(I) The first argument (349 B-350 c) is omitted here, because<br />
only a very loose paraphrase could liberate the meaning from the<br />
stiff and archaic form of the original. Thrasymachus has upheld<br />
the superman who will try to outdo everyone else and go to any<br />
lengths in getting the better of his neighbours. Socrates attacks this<br />
ideal of unlimited self-assertion, relying once more on the admitted<br />
analogy between the art of living and other arts. The musician,<br />
tuning an instrument, knows that there is for each stn"ng a certain