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Sampa <strong>The</strong> Great<br />

Homecoming<br />

queen<br />

Born in Zambia and based in Australia, the<br />

rising star of conscious rap explains how<br />

returning home can shape your future<br />

Words FLORIAN OBKIRCHER Photography BARUN CHATTERJEE<br />

In March last year, Sampa Tembo,<br />

better known as Sampa the Great,<br />

won the Australian Music Prize for<br />

her mixtape Birds And <strong>The</strong> BEE9.<br />

Winning the accolade – which,<br />

much like the <strong>UK</strong>’s Mercury Prize,<br />

is awarded for creative excellence<br />

rather than album sales – is a<br />

prestigious achievement for any<br />

musician Down Under. <strong>The</strong> thing is,<br />

Tembo isn’t Australian; she moved<br />

there from her home country of<br />

Zambia in 2014 to study audio<br />

production. However, when the<br />

rapper’s first release, 2015’s <strong>The</strong><br />

Great Mixtape, began gaining<br />

positive attention, many Australian<br />

magazines conveniently named her<br />

one of their own. <strong>The</strong> topic of home<br />

runs throughout the 19 tracks on<br />

her official debut album, <strong>The</strong> Return,<br />

released on <strong>UK</strong> label Ninja Tune.<br />

Here, the 26-year-old explains why<br />

she shot the video for her single<br />

Final Form in Zambia, and how she<br />

overcame her insecurities…<br />

the red bulletin: What inspired<br />

you shoot the Final Form video<br />

in Zambia and feature your friends<br />

and parents in it?<br />

sampa the great: I’m based in<br />

Australia and started my professional<br />

career there, but at the same time<br />

I’d never performed at home, never<br />

had a song on radio [in Zambia].<br />

All of a sudden, I’m being played on<br />

the radio in Australia, doing live<br />

shows there, and people are calling<br />

me Australian. And Zambians<br />

are like, “How come she never<br />

performed here in front of us?”<br />

How did it feel going back?<br />

It was like coming full circle, that the<br />

place I grew up in could eventually<br />

experience me as an artist. I have<br />

no qualms about people saying I’m<br />

Australia-based, but it’s only half<br />

the truth. My friends at home are<br />

like, “We know where you’re from,”<br />

and I say, “I’m not controlling this!”<br />

So it felt important for me to tell<br />

people the story of who I am, rather<br />

than having other people create this<br />

narrative for me.<br />

What does returning home<br />

mean to you? Does it make you<br />

feel more grounded?<br />

<strong>The</strong> way we were raised, there was<br />

no space to be big-headed. As soon<br />

as it happened, my parents were<br />

like, “Cut that down.” Going home<br />

reassures your growth. It’s like, this<br />

is where you came from and this is<br />

what you’re doing. That’s important,<br />

because sometimes we forget to look<br />

back and see how much we’ve grown.<br />

How have you grown in the<br />

past few years?<br />

<strong>The</strong> assurance within myself has<br />

grown a lot. I’m doing what I know<br />

I was born to do. In the beginning<br />

there was so much doubt, because<br />

no one in my family had attempted<br />

a career in music. Now that I’m<br />

doing it – and enjoying it – there’s<br />

a bigger sense of assurance. Within<br />

the process, confidence and self-love<br />

have grown as well. And also the<br />

willingness to learn and work on my<br />

weaknesses, instead of just being<br />

like, “Yeah, nah!”<br />

How did you overcome any doubts<br />

you had?<br />

Definitely though conversations with<br />

people. <strong>The</strong> one thing that creates<br />

insecurity is the feeling that you’re<br />

going through something alone.<br />

Whoever I meet, I always want<br />

to converse with them about life,<br />

because it helps you to appreciate<br />

that we all share many fears and<br />

insecurities. When you see these<br />

are common things that people<br />

struggle with, you know that it’s<br />

OK to feel that way and to seek<br />

knowledge to get better.<br />

You once said a good student<br />

not only tries to master the things<br />

they’re good at, but also the things<br />

they’re really bad at. What have<br />

you attempted to master while<br />

working on <strong>The</strong> Return?<br />

So many things. For time’s sake, I’d<br />

say perspective. With <strong>The</strong> Return, it<br />

was like, “Oh, I can’t get to go home,<br />

because of this and that.” I was<br />

consumed by it, until I met people<br />

in situations where they couldn’t go<br />

back home so they had to create<br />

a new one for themselves. I had to<br />

step back and see that the small<br />

discomfort and displacement I was<br />

feeling was nothing compared with<br />

theirs. My perspective of how I’m<br />

blessed was definitely challenged.<br />

Did you take any action as a result<br />

of that realisation?<br />

I asked myself the question: “What<br />

do you do with this privilege?” For<br />

me it’s like, if I have an opportunity<br />

to go home, I’m going to share what<br />

I know. If I have the opportunity,<br />

I’d like to teach Zambians who’ve<br />

never been there about our home<br />

and culture. It’s that perspective of<br />

knowing that you have something<br />

someone else doesn’t, that they<br />

would [gain] value from. It feels like<br />

a duty to the diaspora, being able to<br />

teach these things.<br />

Sampa <strong>The</strong> Great’s debut album,<br />

<strong>The</strong> Return, is out now on Ninja Tune;<br />

sampathegreat.com<br />

28 THE RED BULLETIN

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