Mai - Vho

——————————————————————> Conseils de révisions / mai 2005
J’ai du mal me faire comprendre
Ils n’ont rien d’historien ce sont des gens qui se servent de leur dont d’écriture pour falsifié
l’histoire se sont des fabulateurs et des acharnés! Met le nez dans la merde à un négationniste et il te
dira que c’est de la fraise!
Radeon écrit le: lundi 14 février 2005 à 16h49. Il écrit sur le "Forum des Penseurs"
Authentique!!
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§==== Visas refusés en 1933, accueil de l'antisémite Bobby Ficher, rejet d'une base américaine.
Quelle est l'histoire de cette Islande qui refuse de regarder en face sa faute vis-à-vis des juifs
allemands
Le gouvernement islandais vient d'indiquer qu'il ne comptait pas s'excuser pour son
attitude entre 1933 et 1940: l'Islande avait alors refusé des visas d'entrée à des réfugiés juifs allemands,
et en avait même expulsé certains vers l'Allemagne nazie où ils risquaient la mort. Une déclaration
d'autant plus troublante que ce même gouvernement a accordé, fin mars 2005, la nationalité
islandaise à l'ancien champion américain d'échecs, Bobby Fischer, antisémite notoire [et
révisionniste convaincu] qui avait déclaré après son arrivée à Reykjavik: «Les États-Unis contrôlés par
les juifs sont le mal».
< http://www.proche-orient.info/xjournal_pol_der_heure.php3id_article=39486 >
§=== S Marques of Portugal has spotted, Saturday, April 16, 2005, how BBC producer
Laurence Rees faked what a German "eye-witness of gas chambers" actually said
What Gröning actually said
I HAVE just read the article "The fight against Holocaust denial" by Raffi Berg, quoted by your
site from BBC News. In that article, we read the following:
"The fear that deniers could gain the upper hand led an SS camp guard, Oskar Gröning, to
break a lifetime of silence earlier this year in a BBC documentary, Auschwitz: The Nazis and the Final
Solution. 'I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when
the selections [for the gas chambers] took place,' said Mr Gröning, now in his 80s. 'I would like you to
believe these atrocities happened -- because I was there.' "
Mr. Berg's quote is intriguing. I happen to have not only watched, but also tape-recorded, the
BBC documentary he mentions, when it was broadcast last March 8 [2005] on the Portuguese channel
RTP-2, in its original English version subtitled in Portuguese, and I was struck by the contradiction
between the subtitles and the actual words one can hear in the film.
They differ in one important detail from what one can distincly hear, both in the German words
spoken by Gröning and their superposed English translation.
The Portuguese subtitles, like Mr. Berg's quote, follow what I gather to be the BBC-distributed
text that one can find here (Gröning speaking):
"I see it as my task, now at my age, to face up to these things that I experienced and to oppose
the Holocaust deniers who claim that Auschwitz never happened. And that's why I am here today.
Because I want to tell those deniers: I have seen the gas chambers, I have seen the crematoria, I have
seen the burning pits - and I want you to believe me that these atrocities happened. I was there."
Now here are the actual words one gets in the English superposed commentary, which is a
faithful translation of the German words one is also able to hear beneath the English:
"I see it as my task, now at my age, to face up to these things that I experienced and to oppose
the Holocaust deniers who claim that Auschwitz never happened. And that's why I am here today.
Because I want to tell those deniers: I have seen the crematoria, I have seen the burning pits - and I
want you to believe me that these atrocities happened. I was there."
Spot the difference.
Tough luck. Back to Höss's "confessions" (never mind Richard Baer or Arthur
Liebehenschel) and, of course, the Germans that also confessed to have seen the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth: Hans Stark (10 years for gassing Jews, under juvenile law due to his
age, in the Frankfurt 1963-65 "Auschwitz Trial") and Pery Broad (5 years, same trial)...
A. S. Marques
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