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eqskluziuri interviu Sereul<br />

daTo WipaSvili<br />

giga kuxalaSvili ruseTSi<br />

moRvawe warmatebuli qarTveli<br />

sportsmenia, romelic msoflios Cempionia Sereul orT-<br />

abrZolebSi. mis mier Sesrulebuli nokautebi orjer moxvda<br />

saukeTeso nokautebis aTeulSi. giga yvela Sejibrze qarTu-<br />

li droSisa da qarTuli musikis TanxlebiT gamodis, xolo<br />

misi klubis darbazs qarTuli droSa amSvenebs. „qarTveli<br />

iqneba Tu sxva qveynis warmomadgeneli, sadac ar unda iyos,<br />

Tavisi samSoblo ar unda daaviwydes da me mimaCnia, rom<br />

valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis saxeli ise gavitano, rogorc<br />

saWiroa”, _ ambobs giga kuxalaSvili „qronika+~-Tan.<br />

giga kuxalaSvili:<br />

_ 1999 weli iyo, 11 wlis viyavi,<br />

mSoblebTan erTad rom wavedi moskovSi.<br />

maSin saqarTveloSi omis<br />

Semdgomi periodi da areuloba<br />

iyo. skola iq davamTavre, Semdeg<br />

universitetSi Cavabare samSenebloze,<br />

erTi kursi davamTavre da<br />

saqarTveloSi wamovediT. aq ekonomiurze<br />

Cavabare, magram 3 kursis<br />

damTavrebis Semdeg mivxvdi, rom<br />

Cemi saqme ar iyo, ufro mSoblebis<br />

zegavlenis qveS moveqeci. davanebe<br />

swavlas Tavi, jarSi vimsaxure da<br />

Semdeg Cavabare iuridiulze.<br />

_ iuridiulze ratom?<br />

_ Zalian momwonda da mainteresebda.<br />

vfiqrob, rom yvela adamianma<br />

unda icodes Tavisi uflebebis<br />

dacva da garkveuli unda iyos<br />

am sferoSi. universitetis damTavrebis<br />

Semdeg, daaxloebiT 2013<br />

wels, ruseTSi sportis ganxriT<br />

wavedi.<br />

_ rogorc iuristma ratom ar<br />

gaagrZeleT Tqveni moRvaweoba?<br />

_ yovelTvis vicodi, rom iuristad<br />

ver vimuSavebdi. arc mqonda<br />

imis iluzia, rom advokati gavmxdariyavi,<br />

ofisSi davmjdariyavi<br />

an prokuraturaSi memuSava. ubralod,<br />

mainteresebda da imitom<br />

Cavabare. magistraturaze vfiqrobdi<br />

gagrZelebas, magram aRar gavagrZele,<br />

radgan maSin muSaoba am<br />

ganxriT unda damewyo.<br />

_ sportuli cxovreba rodis<br />

airCieT?<br />

_ sportis siyvaruli bavSvobidan<br />

mqonda. aqtiuri bavSvi viyavi.<br />

vandamisa da jeki Canis Taoba<br />

var, maSin yvela vafanatebdiT ma-<br />

Tze da arc me viyavi gamonaklisi.<br />

aq aranairi pirobebi ar gvqonda,<br />

darbazi ar iyo, Suqi ar iyo da cxeli<br />

wyali. moskovSi SedarebiT kargi<br />

pirobebi iyo. maxsovs, Cemi Zma<br />

kikboqisingze dadioda da sanTlis<br />

Suqze varjiSobdnen. Tavidan karateze<br />

vvarjiSobdi, mere CogburTze<br />

daviwye siaruli da Semdeg _<br />

krivze. jars rom movrCi, 2009<br />

wels Sereul orTabZolebze daviwye<br />

siaruli. maSin gadavdgi pirveli<br />

nabijebi saqarTveloSi sportis<br />

am saxeobaSi.<br />

_ rogorc vici, saqarTvelos<br />

Cempioni gaxdiT. ratom ar gaagr-<br />

ZeleT aq moRvaweoba?<br />

_ 2013 wels sportis sasaxleSi<br />

kikboqsingSi brZolebi Catarda,<br />

sadac ruseTis warmomadgenels<br />

Sevxvdi. Zalian Zlieri biWi iyo.<br />

Tavidan aqtiurad daiwyo, magram<br />

SevZeli da pirveli raundis bolos<br />

nokautiT movige. turniri<br />

maRali donis iyo da eswrebodnen<br />

sportis ministri, biznesmenebi.<br />

brZolis Semdeg ministri da Tanamdebobis<br />

pirebi movidnen, mxarze<br />

xeli damartyes, gamarjveba momiloces.<br />

miTxres, magari xar<br />

brZolaSio da samasi lari momces.<br />

magari biWoba da Seqeba kargia, magram<br />

sportsmens pirobebis Seqmna<br />

da finansuri daxmareba rom sWirdeba,<br />

es ministrmac kargad unda<br />

icodes. arc erTs ar gamouCenia<br />

aranairi iniciativa.<br />

am brZolis mere gadavwyvite,<br />

Cemi kariera saqarTvelodan sxvagan<br />

gamegrZelebina, radgan davrwmundi,<br />

ministrebisgan mxarze xelis<br />

wamortyma da magari biWobis<br />

Seqeba ufro xSiria, vidre realurad<br />

mxarSi dadgoma. ukve xuTi welia,<br />

moskovis klub „strelas” saxeliT<br />

gamovdivar. Sereul orTabrZolebSi<br />

msoflios Cempioni var,<br />

krivSi – saqarTvelos Cempionatis<br />

priziori da uSu sandaSi – saqarTvelos<br />

Cempioni. adre TiTqmis<br />

yvela sabrZolo sportis saxeoba-<br />

Si gamovdiodi, magram axla mxolod<br />

Sereul orTabrZolebze gamovdivar.<br />

_ 300 laris garda araferi<br />

mouciaT?<br />

_ araferi. 300 lari gavyavi<br />

mwvrTnelze, cota ojaxSi da saer-<br />

To jamSi aRaraferi damrCa.<br />

_ saqarTveloze guli agicru-<br />

vdaT?<br />

_ saqarTveloze ar amicruvda<br />

guli, midgomaze da damokidebulebaze<br />

amicruvda guli.<br />

_ ruseTSi cxovreba ratom<br />

aRar gaagrZeleT?<br />

_ ruseTis politika qarTvelebis<br />

mimarT kategoriuli gaxda. gausaZlisi<br />

pirobebi iyo da Sesabamisad,<br />

ojaxiT ver gavCerdiT. omis<br />

Semdeg iq mcxovrebi qarTvelebis<br />

mimarT politika Secvales.<br />

_ 2008 wlis omis Semdeg Seicv-<br />

ala maTi damokidebuleba?<br />

_ ara, radgan Zalian bevri megobari<br />

myavs ruseTSi. omis periodSi<br />

Zalian didi mxardaWera vigrZeni<br />

maTgan. yvela gvwerda da<br />

mimdinare movlenebi ainteresebda,<br />

rac aq xdeboda. es politikaa da<br />

ar SeiZleba, yvelaferi xalxSi avurioT.<br />

ruseTis sainformacio sa-<br />

Sualebebi 90%-s sicrues aCvenebdnen<br />

da, Sesabamisad, bevri ar ijerebda<br />

am sisuleleebs. ragbis nakrebis<br />

federaciam oficialuri<br />

mxardaWera gamogvicxada, rac<br />

imaze metyvelebs, rom xalxi iqac<br />

gamijnulia politikisgan da ar<br />

ereva, Tumca faqti faqtad rCeba<br />

da amas veravin uaryofs _ ruseTma<br />

Cveni qveynis okupacia moaxdina.<br />

_ aRiarebT, rom ruseTi oku-<br />

pantia?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda! rogor unda<br />

vTqva, ar aris-meTqi, sakuTar Tavs<br />

xom ar movatyueb an daRupuli<br />

vaJkacebis sulebs xom ar wavbilwav?!<br />

uamravi Cemi axlobeli daiRupa<br />

da jarSi nebismier wams mzad<br />

viyaviT, rom wavsuliyaviT, gveoma<br />

da Cveni qveyana dagveca.<br />

_ ratom ar waxvediT?<br />

_ brZaneba ar Semosula.<br />

_ ruseTSi qarTuli droSiT<br />

gamodixarT?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda da xSirad Cemi<br />

mwvrTneli maxsenebs, rom droSa ar<br />

damaviwydes. qarTveli iqneba Tu<br />

sxva qveynis warmomadgeneli, sadac<br />

ar unda iyos, ar unda daaviwydes<br />

Tavisi samSoblo da mimaCnia, rom<br />

valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis saxeli<br />

gavitano, ise rogorc saWiroa.<br />

saqarTvelos ormetriani droSa<br />

darbazSic maqvs gamofenili gamosaCen<br />

adgilze da SesvlisTanave<br />

`qarTveli iqneba Tu sxva qveynis<br />

warmomadgeneli, sadac ar unda iyos, Tavisi<br />

samSoblo ar unda daaviwydes da me<br />

mimaCnia, rom valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis<br />

saxeli ise gavitano, rogorc saWiroa~<br />

pirvel rigSi mas vxedav.<br />

_ amis uflebas gaZleven?<br />

_ diax! amis neba klubis administraciam<br />

damrTo, _ moitane Seni<br />

qveynis droSa da Camokideo. pirvelad<br />

qarTuli droSa gamoifina,<br />

Semdeg ki es tradiciad iqca da<br />

klubSi mosuli yvela ucxoeli<br />

sportsmenisa Tu mwvrTnelis pativsacemad<br />

maTi qveynis droSas<br />

kideben.<br />

_ rodis Sevida Tqven mier Sesrulebuli<br />

nokautebi saukeTeso-<br />

Ta aTeulSi?<br />

_ es iyo groznoSi. Sejibreba<br />

Svid saaTze iwyeboda. ise moxda,<br />

rom eqvsze daiwyes. me rigiT meo-<br />

Txe brZola miwevda. sastumroSi<br />

viyavi, mwvrTnelma rom damireka<br />

da miTxra, brZolebi ukve daiwyoo.<br />

ase swrafad, albaT, arasdros gamovsulvar<br />

saxlidan. megobaric ukve<br />

manqaniT melodeboda, romelmac<br />

Tavisi Sumaxeruli SesaZleblobebi<br />

gamoiyena da Cems brZolas mivuswariT.<br />

mivedi, Sortebi Cavicvi.<br />

erT fexze „bintebis” daxveva movaswari,<br />

meoreze – vera. brZola<br />

mowinaaRmdegis SeteviT daiwyo,<br />

Tumca iniciativis aReba SevZeli<br />

da gamarjveba nokautiT pirvel<br />

raundSive movipove. es brZola<br />

erT-erTi mniSvnelovania CemTvis.<br />

meored inguSeTSi mqonda Sejibreba.<br />

yirgiz sportsmens Sevxvdi,<br />

msoflios Cempioni iyo jiujicu-<br />

Si da CemTan Widaobas cdilobda.<br />

46 wamSi nokautSi gavuSvi da gamarjvebac<br />

movipove. saRamos inguSe-<br />

Tis prezidentma yvelani wveulebaze<br />

dagvpatiJa. TiTo magidasTan<br />

ramdenime qveynis warmomadgeneli<br />

visxediT. Sua wveulebis dros<br />

CemTan movidnen da mTxoves, prezidentis<br />

magidasTan gadavmjdariyavi,<br />

Cemi gacnoba undoda. Tbilad<br />

mimiRo, ise, rogorc kavkasiel xalxs,<br />

inguSebsa da qarTvelebs Segvefereba.<br />

raRac namcxvari momawoda<br />

– Wame, Zalian gemrieliao. namcxvrebi<br />

mivirTviT da aRmoCnda,<br />

rom masac CemsaviT hyvarebia. iunus<br />

bek evkurovi TviTonac sportiTaa<br />

gatacebuli da cdilobs,<br />

Tavis respublikaSi arc erTi sportsmeni<br />

uyuradRebod ar datovos,<br />

ramac kargi Sedegi gamoiRo.<br />

inguSi sportsmenebi ukve sakmaod<br />

warmatebulebi arian.<br />

_ rTuli gza gaiareT, rom<br />

ruseTSi warmatebisTvis migeRwi-<br />

aT?<br />

_ rTuli periodis gavla momiwia,<br />

Zalian bevrs vvarjiSobdi. ise-<br />

Ti SemTxvevebic yofila, Ramis<br />

gasaTevi arsad mqonda da arc<br />

aravis Sewuxeba mindoda zedmetad.<br />

ramdenime dRe erTi nacnobis „garaJSic”<br />

ki vicxovre zamTarSi.<br />

mogexsenebaT, moskovSi ra yinvebi<br />

icis. mere darbazSi vcxovrobdi.<br />

mTeli darbazis tatami Cems gankargulebaSi<br />

iyo. Cemi mwvrTneli<br />

taras kiaSko rom ar gamecno, bevrad<br />

ufro rTuli gzis gavla momiwevda.<br />

es aris adamiani, romelic<br />

nebismier situaciaSi da problemis<br />

dros gverdSi midgas. miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom Cemi ojaxis wevrebs<br />

ar icnobs, imxela yuradRebasa da<br />

interess iCens, rom Tu rame daxmareba<br />

SeuZlia, ukan ar ixevs. bevri<br />

qarTveli ar damdgomia iq gverdiT,<br />

rogorc es adamiani. rTuli<br />

operaciis gakeTeba damWirda, romlis<br />

xarjebic mTlianad taras kiaSkom<br />

aminazRaura. es aris adamiani,<br />

romelic uTqmelad xvdeba, ra<br />

gWirdeba da ar SemiZlia, mis mimarT<br />

udidesi pativiscema ar gamovxato.<br />

amas aravin gagikeTebs. amitom<br />

vambob, rom politikisa da adamianebis<br />

areva erTmaneTSi ar Sei-<br />

Zleba.<br />

_ saqarTvelos himnis fonze<br />

gamodixarT?<br />

_ himnze iq aravin gamodis, radgan<br />

es ar aris nakrebebs Soris Sejibrebebi.<br />

klubis saxeliT gamovdivar<br />

da yvela im musikis fonze<br />

gamodis, rac unda. zurgze Semokruli<br />

maqvs qarTuli droSa da<br />

mTiulurs vukravT xolme.<br />

_ ruseTis himnis fonze gamo-<br />

sulxarT?<br />

_ arasdros! CemTvis principuli<br />

sakiTxia, sxva qveynis himnze<br />

ratom unda gamovide?!<br />

_ saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi Tu<br />

gamoxvidodiT?<br />

_ ar gamoval!<br />

_ bevri qarTvelia, romelmac<br />

kremlis moedanze okupanti qveynis<br />

himni imRera. Tqven Tu imRe-<br />

rebdiT?<br />

_ ratom unda vimRero?! Tu vi-<br />

RacisTvis miRebulia, SeuZlia,<br />

rom imReros, magram me, zogadad,<br />

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