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eqskluziuri interviu Sereul<br />
daTo WipaSvili<br />
giga kuxalaSvili ruseTSi<br />
moRvawe warmatebuli qarTveli<br />
sportsmenia, romelic msoflios Cempionia Sereul orT-<br />
abrZolebSi. mis mier Sesrulebuli nokautebi orjer moxvda<br />
saukeTeso nokautebis aTeulSi. giga yvela Sejibrze qarTu-<br />
li droSisa da qarTuli musikis TanxlebiT gamodis, xolo<br />
misi klubis darbazs qarTuli droSa amSvenebs. „qarTveli<br />
iqneba Tu sxva qveynis warmomadgeneli, sadac ar unda iyos,<br />
Tavisi samSoblo ar unda daaviwydes da me mimaCnia, rom<br />
valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis saxeli ise gavitano, rogorc<br />
saWiroa”, _ ambobs giga kuxalaSvili „qronika+~-Tan.<br />
giga kuxalaSvili:<br />
_ 1999 weli iyo, 11 wlis viyavi,<br />
mSoblebTan erTad rom wavedi moskovSi.<br />
maSin saqarTveloSi omis<br />
Semdgomi periodi da areuloba<br />
iyo. skola iq davamTavre, Semdeg<br />
universitetSi Cavabare samSenebloze,<br />
erTi kursi davamTavre da<br />
saqarTveloSi wamovediT. aq ekonomiurze<br />
Cavabare, magram 3 kursis<br />
damTavrebis Semdeg mivxvdi, rom<br />
Cemi saqme ar iyo, ufro mSoblebis<br />
zegavlenis qveS moveqeci. davanebe<br />
swavlas Tavi, jarSi vimsaxure da<br />
Semdeg Cavabare iuridiulze.<br />
_ iuridiulze ratom?<br />
_ Zalian momwonda da mainteresebda.<br />
vfiqrob, rom yvela adamianma<br />
unda icodes Tavisi uflebebis<br />
dacva da garkveuli unda iyos<br />
am sferoSi. universitetis damTavrebis<br />
Semdeg, daaxloebiT 2013<br />
wels, ruseTSi sportis ganxriT<br />
wavedi.<br />
_ rogorc iuristma ratom ar<br />
gaagrZeleT Tqveni moRvaweoba?<br />
_ yovelTvis vicodi, rom iuristad<br />
ver vimuSavebdi. arc mqonda<br />
imis iluzia, rom advokati gavmxdariyavi,<br />
ofisSi davmjdariyavi<br />
an prokuraturaSi memuSava. ubralod,<br />
mainteresebda da imitom<br />
Cavabare. magistraturaze vfiqrobdi<br />
gagrZelebas, magram aRar gavagrZele,<br />
radgan maSin muSaoba am<br />
ganxriT unda damewyo.<br />
_ sportuli cxovreba rodis<br />
airCieT?<br />
_ sportis siyvaruli bavSvobidan<br />
mqonda. aqtiuri bavSvi viyavi.<br />
vandamisa da jeki Canis Taoba<br />
var, maSin yvela vafanatebdiT ma-<br />
Tze da arc me viyavi gamonaklisi.<br />
aq aranairi pirobebi ar gvqonda,<br />
darbazi ar iyo, Suqi ar iyo da cxeli<br />
wyali. moskovSi SedarebiT kargi<br />
pirobebi iyo. maxsovs, Cemi Zma<br />
kikboqisingze dadioda da sanTlis<br />
Suqze varjiSobdnen. Tavidan karateze<br />
vvarjiSobdi, mere CogburTze<br />
daviwye siaruli da Semdeg _<br />
krivze. jars rom movrCi, 2009<br />
wels Sereul orTabZolebze daviwye<br />
siaruli. maSin gadavdgi pirveli<br />
nabijebi saqarTveloSi sportis<br />
am saxeobaSi.<br />
_ rogorc vici, saqarTvelos<br />
Cempioni gaxdiT. ratom ar gaagr-<br />
ZeleT aq moRvaweoba?<br />
_ 2013 wels sportis sasaxleSi<br />
kikboqsingSi brZolebi Catarda,<br />
sadac ruseTis warmomadgenels<br />
Sevxvdi. Zalian Zlieri biWi iyo.<br />
Tavidan aqtiurad daiwyo, magram<br />
SevZeli da pirveli raundis bolos<br />
nokautiT movige. turniri<br />
maRali donis iyo da eswrebodnen<br />
sportis ministri, biznesmenebi.<br />
brZolis Semdeg ministri da Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi movidnen, mxarze<br />
xeli damartyes, gamarjveba momiloces.<br />
miTxres, magari xar<br />
brZolaSio da samasi lari momces.<br />
magari biWoba da Seqeba kargia, magram<br />
sportsmens pirobebis Seqmna<br />
da finansuri daxmareba rom sWirdeba,<br />
es ministrmac kargad unda<br />
icodes. arc erTs ar gamouCenia<br />
aranairi iniciativa.<br />
am brZolis mere gadavwyvite,<br />
Cemi kariera saqarTvelodan sxvagan<br />
gamegrZelebina, radgan davrwmundi,<br />
ministrebisgan mxarze xelis<br />
wamortyma da magari biWobis<br />
Seqeba ufro xSiria, vidre realurad<br />
mxarSi dadgoma. ukve xuTi welia,<br />
moskovis klub „strelas” saxeliT<br />
gamovdivar. Sereul orTabrZolebSi<br />
msoflios Cempioni var,<br />
krivSi – saqarTvelos Cempionatis<br />
priziori da uSu sandaSi – saqarTvelos<br />
Cempioni. adre TiTqmis<br />
yvela sabrZolo sportis saxeoba-<br />
Si gamovdiodi, magram axla mxolod<br />
Sereul orTabrZolebze gamovdivar.<br />
_ 300 laris garda araferi<br />
mouciaT?<br />
_ araferi. 300 lari gavyavi<br />
mwvrTnelze, cota ojaxSi da saer-<br />
To jamSi aRaraferi damrCa.<br />
_ saqarTveloze guli agicru-<br />
vdaT?<br />
_ saqarTveloze ar amicruvda<br />
guli, midgomaze da damokidebulebaze<br />
amicruvda guli.<br />
_ ruseTSi cxovreba ratom<br />
aRar gaagrZeleT?<br />
_ ruseTis politika qarTvelebis<br />
mimarT kategoriuli gaxda. gausaZlisi<br />
pirobebi iyo da Sesabamisad,<br />
ojaxiT ver gavCerdiT. omis<br />
Semdeg iq mcxovrebi qarTvelebis<br />
mimarT politika Secvales.<br />
_ 2008 wlis omis Semdeg Seicv-<br />
ala maTi damokidebuleba?<br />
_ ara, radgan Zalian bevri megobari<br />
myavs ruseTSi. omis periodSi<br />
Zalian didi mxardaWera vigrZeni<br />
maTgan. yvela gvwerda da<br />
mimdinare movlenebi ainteresebda,<br />
rac aq xdeboda. es politikaa da<br />
ar SeiZleba, yvelaferi xalxSi avurioT.<br />
ruseTis sainformacio sa-<br />
Sualebebi 90%-s sicrues aCvenebdnen<br />
da, Sesabamisad, bevri ar ijerebda<br />
am sisuleleebs. ragbis nakrebis<br />
federaciam oficialuri<br />
mxardaWera gamogvicxada, rac<br />
imaze metyvelebs, rom xalxi iqac<br />
gamijnulia politikisgan da ar<br />
ereva, Tumca faqti faqtad rCeba<br />
da amas veravin uaryofs _ ruseTma<br />
Cveni qveynis okupacia moaxdina.<br />
_ aRiarebT, rom ruseTi oku-<br />
pantia?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda! rogor unda<br />
vTqva, ar aris-meTqi, sakuTar Tavs<br />
xom ar movatyueb an daRupuli<br />
vaJkacebis sulebs xom ar wavbilwav?!<br />
uamravi Cemi axlobeli daiRupa<br />
da jarSi nebismier wams mzad<br />
viyaviT, rom wavsuliyaviT, gveoma<br />
da Cveni qveyana dagveca.<br />
_ ratom ar waxvediT?<br />
_ brZaneba ar Semosula.<br />
_ ruseTSi qarTuli droSiT<br />
gamodixarT?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda da xSirad Cemi<br />
mwvrTneli maxsenebs, rom droSa ar<br />
damaviwydes. qarTveli iqneba Tu<br />
sxva qveynis warmomadgeneli, sadac<br />
ar unda iyos, ar unda daaviwydes<br />
Tavisi samSoblo da mimaCnia, rom<br />
valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis saxeli<br />
gavitano, ise rogorc saWiroa.<br />
saqarTvelos ormetriani droSa<br />
darbazSic maqvs gamofenili gamosaCen<br />
adgilze da SesvlisTanave<br />
`qarTveli iqneba Tu sxva qveynis<br />
warmomadgeneli, sadac ar unda iyos, Tavisi<br />
samSoblo ar unda daaviwydes da me<br />
mimaCnia, rom valdebuli var, Cemi qveynis<br />
saxeli ise gavitano, rogorc saWiroa~<br />
pirvel rigSi mas vxedav.<br />
_ amis uflebas gaZleven?<br />
_ diax! amis neba klubis administraciam<br />
damrTo, _ moitane Seni<br />
qveynis droSa da Camokideo. pirvelad<br />
qarTuli droSa gamoifina,<br />
Semdeg ki es tradiciad iqca da<br />
klubSi mosuli yvela ucxoeli<br />
sportsmenisa Tu mwvrTnelis pativsacemad<br />
maTi qveynis droSas<br />
kideben.<br />
_ rodis Sevida Tqven mier Sesrulebuli<br />
nokautebi saukeTeso-<br />
Ta aTeulSi?<br />
_ es iyo groznoSi. Sejibreba<br />
Svid saaTze iwyeboda. ise moxda,<br />
rom eqvsze daiwyes. me rigiT meo-<br />
Txe brZola miwevda. sastumroSi<br />
viyavi, mwvrTnelma rom damireka<br />
da miTxra, brZolebi ukve daiwyoo.<br />
ase swrafad, albaT, arasdros gamovsulvar<br />
saxlidan. megobaric ukve<br />
manqaniT melodeboda, romelmac<br />
Tavisi Sumaxeruli SesaZleblobebi<br />
gamoiyena da Cems brZolas mivuswariT.<br />
mivedi, Sortebi Cavicvi.<br />
erT fexze „bintebis” daxveva movaswari,<br />
meoreze – vera. brZola<br />
mowinaaRmdegis SeteviT daiwyo,<br />
Tumca iniciativis aReba SevZeli<br />
da gamarjveba nokautiT pirvel<br />
raundSive movipove. es brZola<br />
erT-erTi mniSvnelovania CemTvis.<br />
meored inguSeTSi mqonda Sejibreba.<br />
yirgiz sportsmens Sevxvdi,<br />
msoflios Cempioni iyo jiujicu-<br />
Si da CemTan Widaobas cdilobda.<br />
46 wamSi nokautSi gavuSvi da gamarjvebac<br />
movipove. saRamos inguSe-<br />
Tis prezidentma yvelani wveulebaze<br />
dagvpatiJa. TiTo magidasTan<br />
ramdenime qveynis warmomadgeneli<br />
visxediT. Sua wveulebis dros<br />
CemTan movidnen da mTxoves, prezidentis<br />
magidasTan gadavmjdariyavi,<br />
Cemi gacnoba undoda. Tbilad<br />
mimiRo, ise, rogorc kavkasiel xalxs,<br />
inguSebsa da qarTvelebs Segvefereba.<br />
raRac namcxvari momawoda<br />
– Wame, Zalian gemrieliao. namcxvrebi<br />
mivirTviT da aRmoCnda,<br />
rom masac CemsaviT hyvarebia. iunus<br />
bek evkurovi TviTonac sportiTaa<br />
gatacebuli da cdilobs,<br />
Tavis respublikaSi arc erTi sportsmeni<br />
uyuradRebod ar datovos,<br />
ramac kargi Sedegi gamoiRo.<br />
inguSi sportsmenebi ukve sakmaod<br />
warmatebulebi arian.<br />
_ rTuli gza gaiareT, rom<br />
ruseTSi warmatebisTvis migeRwi-<br />
aT?<br />
_ rTuli periodis gavla momiwia,<br />
Zalian bevrs vvarjiSobdi. ise-<br />
Ti SemTxvevebic yofila, Ramis<br />
gasaTevi arsad mqonda da arc<br />
aravis Sewuxeba mindoda zedmetad.<br />
ramdenime dRe erTi nacnobis „garaJSic”<br />
ki vicxovre zamTarSi.<br />
mogexsenebaT, moskovSi ra yinvebi<br />
icis. mere darbazSi vcxovrobdi.<br />
mTeli darbazis tatami Cems gankargulebaSi<br />
iyo. Cemi mwvrTneli<br />
taras kiaSko rom ar gamecno, bevrad<br />
ufro rTuli gzis gavla momiwevda.<br />
es aris adamiani, romelic<br />
nebismier situaciaSi da problemis<br />
dros gverdSi midgas. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom Cemi ojaxis wevrebs<br />
ar icnobs, imxela yuradRebasa da<br />
interess iCens, rom Tu rame daxmareba<br />
SeuZlia, ukan ar ixevs. bevri<br />
qarTveli ar damdgomia iq gverdiT,<br />
rogorc es adamiani. rTuli<br />
operaciis gakeTeba damWirda, romlis<br />
xarjebic mTlianad taras kiaSkom<br />
aminazRaura. es aris adamiani,<br />
romelic uTqmelad xvdeba, ra<br />
gWirdeba da ar SemiZlia, mis mimarT<br />
udidesi pativiscema ar gamovxato.<br />
amas aravin gagikeTebs. amitom<br />
vambob, rom politikisa da adamianebis<br />
areva erTmaneTSi ar Sei-<br />
Zleba.<br />
_ saqarTvelos himnis fonze<br />
gamodixarT?<br />
_ himnze iq aravin gamodis, radgan<br />
es ar aris nakrebebs Soris Sejibrebebi.<br />
klubis saxeliT gamovdivar<br />
da yvela im musikis fonze<br />
gamodis, rac unda. zurgze Semokruli<br />
maqvs qarTuli droSa da<br />
mTiulurs vukravT xolme.<br />
_ ruseTis himnis fonze gamo-<br />
sulxarT?<br />
_ arasdros! CemTvis principuli<br />
sakiTxia, sxva qveynis himnze<br />
ratom unda gamovide?!<br />
_ saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi Tu<br />
gamoxvidodiT?<br />
_ ar gamoval!<br />
_ bevri qarTvelia, romelmac<br />
kremlis moedanze okupanti qveynis<br />
himni imRera. Tqven Tu imRe-<br />
rebdiT?<br />
_ ratom unda vimRero?! Tu vi-<br />
RacisTvis miRebulia, SeuZlia,<br />
rom imReros, magram me, zogadad,<br />
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