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gakvaluli, magram me is adamianebi<br />

ufro maRizianeben, romlebsac<br />

epirferebian da amas irgeben. Cem-<br />

Tvis isini inteleqtualurad dabal<br />

doneze myofi adamianebi arian.<br />

samwuxarod, dRevandel cxovrebaSi<br />

imravla aseTma adamianebma.<br />

saqarTveloSi mamakaci naklebad<br />

kadrulobda am rolis morgebas.<br />

aseTi adamianebi yovelTvis gamokveTilebi<br />

iyvnen xolme jansaR<br />

wreebSi, miuTiTebdnen, rom mas SeuZlia<br />

mliqvneloba. dRes sagrZnoblad<br />

gaizarda maTi ricxvi da<br />

ukve yvelaferi erTmaneTSi airia.<br />

guli mwydeba, rom es saqarTvelo-<br />

Si xdeba, sadac vaJkacoba sxvagvarad<br />

aRiqmeboda. vaJkaci kaci namdvilad<br />

ar miiRebda im raRac moqonil<br />

sityvebsa da saqcielebs,<br />

rasac dRes iReben da amitom mwydeba<br />

guli. vaJkacobis cnebac<br />

ikargeba.<br />

_ gismenT da maxsendeba,<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisufleba-<br />

Si mosvlidan, sul raRac, erTi<br />

wlis Semdeg ambobdiT, _ saqarT-<br />

mReris, Tavi rom irCinos da me<br />

amas saTakilod ar miviCnev, magram<br />

is, rom Sen mas mxolod ucxoeTSi<br />

wasvlis da mere iqidan Camosvlis<br />

Semdeg aRiareb, es saSinelebaa. rac<br />

mTavaria, ukve ikargeba zRvari ni-<br />

Wiersa da Zalian niWiers Soris.<br />

_ ki magram, Tundac saSem-<br />

sruleblo teqnika aris ki dRes<br />

iseTi saqarTveloSi, rom saTana-<br />

dod iqnas gamoyenebuli?<br />

_ aris, magram, samwuxarod,<br />

ikargebian. jer marto Cemi Svilis<br />

TaobaSi, Tundac klasikur sferoSi,<br />

imdenia, rom... magaliTad,<br />

cota xnis winaT italiaSi Zalian<br />

seriozuli gamocda Caabara samma<br />

niWierma vokalistma, magram qveyanam<br />

verc erTi daafinansa da saswavleblad<br />

ver wavidnen. „Cven swavlas<br />

ar vafinansebT”, _ aseTi iyo<br />

pasuxi. ver vxvdebi, aba, ras afinanseben?<br />

xmamaRla vacxadeb, rom<br />

Zalian bevri niWieri adamiani zis<br />

saxlSi.<br />

_ saubarSi sityva „varskvlavi”<br />

vaxseneT... gasuli 2016 weli, al-<br />

baT, arasodes dagaviwydebaT _<br />

_ aq ar ician da cxadia, rac ar<br />

ician, im kuTxiT ganaTleba ucxoeTSi<br />

unda miiRon.<br />

_ e. i. yvelaferi Tavidan aris<br />

dasawyebi?<br />

_ yvelaferi, SeiZleba, ara, magram<br />

Zalian bevri ram aris Tavidan<br />

dasawyebi da aq tyuilad drois<br />

xarjva ar Rirs... radgan gaxmovaneba<br />

vaxseneT, aqve unda iTqvas, rom<br />

Semsruleblebis garkveuli nawili<br />

mere Tavs imarTlebs: ici, ra, iZulebuli<br />

var, koncertze plus<br />

fonogramiT vimRero, televiziiT<br />

mravalmilionianma sazogadoebam<br />

kargi xarisxiT rom naxoso. solo<br />

koncertzea saubari. rodesac msmenels<br />

eubnebi, mobrZandi da momismineo<br />

da am dros cocxlad erT<br />

simReras ar mReri, es CemTvis,<br />

ubralod, Zalian didi uzneobaa.<br />

aq mxolod im 2500 kacze araa<br />

saubari, romelic darbazSi zis da<br />

tyuilze umRerian, aramed tyuils<br />

aCveven momaval Taobas. xom xedavT,<br />

mesamejer wavedi momavali<br />

Taobisken.<br />

_ da ram migviyvana aqamde?<br />

deni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac,<br />

Tvrameti, SeiZleba, metic. sisxlxorceuli<br />

gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi<br />

da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb<br />

locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac<br />

beras interviu movismine televiziiT,<br />

iseTi Rirsebebi gamoavlina,<br />

rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian<br />

sworad azrovnebs, kargi biWia. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT<br />

erTmaneTs da adamianebi, romlebic,<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis”, ase<br />

vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc<br />

ki bera an batoni biZina momesalmeboda,<br />

uceb Cndebodnen iqve<br />

axlos da Sinauruli toniT metyodnen<br />

xolme: „Tamriko, am adamianebs<br />

eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda<br />

avidnen”. mecineboda. vxedavdi,<br />

keTilmosurneebi rogor „zrunavdnen”<br />

maTze da zustad im urTier-<br />

Tobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar<br />

unda Semdgariyo. bolos ukve<br />

cremlebamde vicinodi da winaswar<br />

vambobdi, _ axla naxeT, aucileblad<br />

mova es adamiani-meTqi. da<br />

asec xdeboda. Cemi megobrebi meubnebodnen,<br />

_ ar gvegona, marTla ase<br />

ba?” ar minda, aseTi kiTxvebi damisvan,<br />

minda, ufro meti imediani saxe<br />

da Zalian bevri Rimili davinaxo.<br />

_ dabolos, qalbatono Tamar,<br />

iyo vinme mTavrobidan Tqveni varskvlavis<br />

gaxsnisas solo kon-<br />

certze?<br />

_ ara, aravin yofila, CavTvale,<br />

rom ar ecalaT da ojaxis wevrebi<br />

gamouSves. yvelaze Zalian imaze<br />

mwydeba guli, rom oTxi solo koncerti<br />

Cavatare da miuxedavad<br />

Zalian didi survilsa, mizezTa<br />

gamo, uwmindesi ver mobrZanda.<br />

ityvian, rom amjerad janmrTeloba<br />

ar uwyobs xels, Tumca Tavad<br />

yvela koncertis dros didi survili<br />

hqonda da ambobda, aucileblad<br />

movalo. sxvaTa Soris, aqve<br />

minda giTxraT, rom sul ramdenime<br />

dRis winaT, erT-erT telearxze,<br />

naCvenebi iyo koncerti,<br />

sadac darbazSi patriarqic ijda,<br />

prezidentic, mTavrobis warmomadgenlebic<br />

da 2500 moqalaqe. aq,<br />

erTi SexedviT, TiTqos kargis<br />

meti araferia, rom ara erTi mTavari,<br />

vfiqrob, samarcxvino nawili<br />

bera ivaniSvili<br />

`ara, naTluli arasdros mirekavs. me yovelTvis vurekav, magram piradad<br />

verasdros davukavSirdi, misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod, ise xdeba, rom,<br />

raRacnairad, ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici, iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec<br />

gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari. sul<br />

mainteresebs, rogor micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs Cemze? me minda vuTxra,<br />

rom Zalian miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos locvebs vkiTxulob naTlulTaTvis<br />

da is CemTan aris ukve ramdeni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac, Tvrameti, SeiZleba,<br />

metic. sisxlxorceuli gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb<br />

locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac beras interviu movismine televiziiT, iseTi<br />

Rirsebebi gamoavlina, rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian sworad azrovnebs, kargi<br />

biWia. sxvaTa Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da adamianebi,<br />

romlebic, `qarTuli ocnebis~, ase vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc ki bera an<br />

batoni biZina momesalmeboda, uceb Cndebodnen iqve axlos da Sinauruli toniT<br />

metyodnen xolme: `Tamriko, am adamianebs eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda avidnen~.<br />

mecineboda. vxedavdi, keTilmosurneebi rogor `zrunavdnen~ maTze da zustad im<br />

urTierTobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar unda Semdgariyo~<br />

veloSi Rirsebaze metad mliqvneloba<br />

fasobso. SeiZleba vi-<br />

fiqroT, rom morig arCevnebSi,<br />

maTi kvlav gamarjvebis Semdeg, es<br />

fraza ufro gamyarda?<br />

_ rom ar minelda, faqtia. mTeli<br />

ubedureba is aris, rom momavali<br />

Taobebi fuWdeba. rodesac<br />

Svili xedavs, rom mamamisi am mliqvnelobiT<br />

mogebulia, ra Tqma unda,<br />

igives gaakeTebs, radgan icis,<br />

Zalian bevri ram iolad miuva.<br />

_ gamosavali?<br />

_ swored eg aris Cemi kiTxvis<br />

niSani, romelsac pasuxs ver vcem.<br />

WianWvelebiviT momravldnen aseTi<br />

adamianebi absoluturad yvela<br />

sferoSi, rac ukve Zalian saSiSia.<br />

aqve minda aRvniSno, rom Taobebs<br />

vkargavT, rogorc msmenels. maSin,<br />

rodesac ar awvdi da ar Seayvareb<br />

imas, rac aris Seni, Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />

da marTla faseuli, is<br />

veraviTar SemTxvevaSi ver gansazRvravs<br />

da swor Seafasebas ver<br />

gaakeTebs. nurc movTxovT amas axalgazrdas,<br />

romelic am fesvebze<br />

ar aris gazrdili. rasac xSirad<br />

asmenineben da cxvirwin utrialeben,<br />

mas is hgonia kargi, faseuli.<br />

rodesac Sens fesvebze ar zrdi,<br />

gansjis unaric aRar aqvs. ignorireba<br />

gaukeTes qarTul kulturas,<br />

romelic namdvilad Zalian<br />

Rirebuli gvaqvs. ar davkonkretdebi,<br />

magram cota yofila, vinc<br />

saqarTveloSi arafers warmoadgenda,<br />

wasula ucxoeTSi, SeiZleba,<br />

iq WurWeli erecxa, magram trapidan<br />

Camovida, _ esaa mTavari. sul<br />

vambob, Cven „trapebis daavadeba”<br />

gvaqvs-meTqi. trapidan Camovida da<br />

varskvlavi ewoda imitom, rom ucxoeTSi<br />

iyo. nuravin miwyens, Tu vityvi,<br />

rom bevri iq Zalian iaffasian<br />

klubebSi, igive qorwilebSi<br />

Tqveni saxelobis varskvlavi gaix-<br />

sna. ras eliT 2017 wlisgan maSin,<br />

roca, kulturuli Tvalsazri-<br />

siT, axlac miTxariT da saerTod,<br />

bevrjer aRginiSnavT, rom saqar-<br />

TveloSi Zalian mZime mdgomare-<br />

obaa? maxsovs, qarTuli musikal-<br />

uri xelovnebis gadasarCenad<br />

Tqven erT-erTma pirvelma aimaRleT<br />

xma, uaric ki TqviT simR-<br />

eraze da ganacxadeT, rom qarTu-<br />

li estrada ar arsebobs... dRes<br />

ras fiqrobT?<br />

_ varskvlavs rac Seexeba, 2016<br />

welma damarwmuna, rom namdvilad<br />

aravin ityvis Cemze „e. w. varskvlavs”,<br />

iseTi didi siyvaruli modioda<br />

xalxisgan. varskvlavis dafiqsireba<br />

swored imis dasturia, rom<br />

xalxs uyvarxar... ras veli 2017<br />

wlisgan? pirvel rigSi, imas, rom<br />

Cvenma qveyanam da gansakuTrebiT<br />

maT, visac es xelewifeba, gaacnobieros,<br />

ramdenad mniSvnelovania<br />

qveynis kulturuli Tu socialuri<br />

ganviTareba. katastroful<br />

mdgomareobaSi varT. aviRoT, Tundac,<br />

gaxmovanebis sakiTxi. nuTu,<br />

SeuZlebelia, rom ramdenime adamiani<br />

gauSvan, Tundac, sazRvargareT,<br />

sadac Zalian didi gamocdileba<br />

arsebobs, Tu rogor unda gaaxmovano<br />

koncerti. amaSi Cadon garkveuli<br />

Tanxa. iciT, rogori mniSvnelovania,<br />

rodesac mReri da sa-<br />

Tanadod ar gixmovaneben, xmas ver<br />

awvden Sens msmenels, saTqmels ver<br />

eubnebi. ratom? imitom, rom iq ar<br />

zis, davuSvaT, profesionali xmis<br />

reJisori, an sxvebi, Tundac ganaTeba<br />

ar aris kargi, mxatvroba da<br />

ase Semdeg. raRac Tanxebi unda<br />

gaimeton, romelic axalgazrdebis<br />

swavlas moxmardeba.<br />

_ da es unda moxdes ucxoeT-<br />

Si?<br />

_ zerele damokidebulebam im<br />

saqmis mimarT, romelic miaCniaT,<br />

rom Seni kulturis iseTi mniSvnelovani<br />

nawili ar aris. aba, ra<br />

aris mniSvnelovani, ucxoeli mom-<br />

Rerlebis da musikosebis erTjeradad<br />

Camoyvana? vfiqrob, rom<br />

ara, aq aRzrdaa ufro mniSvnelovani.<br />

saerTod, rogorc erTi rigiTi<br />

moqalaqe, mec maqvs kiTxva: ratom<br />

xdeba es yvelaferi, amdeni<br />

uaryofiTi movlena? kidev kargi,<br />

rom gvaqvs amis ufleba. is, rom me<br />

Tavisuflad SemiZlia dRes amaze<br />

vilaparako da Tqven presaSi dabe-<br />

WdoT, esec Zalian bevrs niSnavs.<br />

`nacionalebis” xelisuflebis<br />

dros marTla Zalian didi saSiSroeba<br />

iyo. megobrebis wreSic ki,<br />

rodesac politikaze saubrobdnen,<br />

telefonis aparats mTlianad<br />

Slidnen. dRes es ar xdeba. laparakoben,<br />

SeiZleba usmenen kidec,<br />

magram, yovel SemTxvevaSi, amis<br />

gulisTvis, sadRac, kojris tyeSi<br />

ar waiyvanen da ar moklaven...<br />

_ darekvaze gamaxsenda... naTlulma<br />

(qalbatoni Tamrikos naT-<br />

luli bera ivaniSvili gaxlavT)<br />

Tu dagirekaT da mogilocaT<br />

naTlisReba?<br />

_ ara, naTluli arasdros mirekavs.<br />

me yovelTvis vurekav, magram<br />

piradad verasdros davukavSirdi,<br />

misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod,<br />

ise xdeba, rom, raRacnairad,<br />

ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici,<br />

iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec<br />

gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom<br />

axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari.<br />

sul mainteresebs, rogor<br />

micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs<br />

Cemze? me minda vuTxra, rom Zalian<br />

miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos<br />

locvebs vkiTxulob naTlul-<br />

TaTvis da is CemTan aris ukve ram-<br />

Tu iyoo. mere ukve vxumrobdi, _<br />

cocxze arian Semomsxdrebi, rogorc<br />

„babaiagebi” da uceb mofrindebian,<br />

raRac zedmeti rom ar vu-<br />

TxraT erTmaneTs-meTqi”. aseTi<br />

adamianebi dRes Zalian boboqroben.<br />

_ cudia, Tu am adamianebs<br />

ujereben da naTliasa da naT-<br />

luls Soris urTierToba ar aris.<br />

_ ara mgonia, rom mTlad ase<br />

ujerebdnen, Tumca boloc makvirvebs...<br />

saerTod, rodesac „qarTuli<br />

ocneba” xelisuflebaSi movida<br />

da xalxi ukmayofilo iyo raRac<br />

movlenebTan Tu gadawyvetilebebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, me sul vambobdi,<br />

rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

yuramde bevri ram ar midis, Zalian<br />

did sainformacio vakuumSia es<br />

adamiani, magram...<br />

_ dRes ra gindaT, rom mis<br />

yuramde mivides?<br />

_ ra vici... mis yuramde dResac<br />

bevri ram aris misatani. yvelaze<br />

mniSvnelovani, albaT, isaa, rom<br />

garemocva gafiltros, ase ukeTesi<br />

iqneba... imedia, dafiqrdebian,<br />

Tu vin aris maTTvis namdvili moyvare<br />

da keTilismsurveli. vfiqrob,<br />

yvelaferi gamosworebadia,<br />

yovel SemTxvevaSi, magis imedi<br />

maqvs _ me is adamiani var, romelic<br />

avadmyofurad aris Seyvarebuli<br />

Tavis qveyanaze. ramdenjerme<br />

mqonda SemoTavazeba da SemeZlo,<br />

saqarTvelodan wavsuliyavi. saboloo<br />

jamSi, an davrCebodi mogebuli,<br />

an _ ara, magram faqtia, ver<br />

wavedi. ori kvirac ki miWirs saqar-<br />

Tvelos datoveba da aRar minda,<br />

daTrgunuli saxeebi davinaxo, ar<br />

minda, viRac quCaSi maCerebdes da<br />

meubnebodes: „aa, Sen is adamiani<br />

xar, aqciaze rom ideqi, gviTxariT,<br />

rogor gamoswordeba mdgomareo-<br />

_ tyuili da uzneoba! am koncert-<br />

Tan mimarTebiTac da, zogadadac,<br />

minda, yvelas mivmarTo, vinc am<br />

RonisZiebebs awyobs _ moeSvan spekulaciuri<br />

RonisZiebebis Catarebas,<br />

rodesac erTi konkretuli,<br />

didi adamianis saxels iyeneben da<br />

amis gamo, rogorc ityvian, „fexze<br />

dgas mTeli qveyana”. es koncertic<br />

am saxis iyo, Tumca me ufro sxva<br />

movlenam SemaSfoTa da aRmaSfo-<br />

Ta _ es swored im tyuilisa da uzneobis<br />

dasturi iyo, razec zemoT<br />

gesaubreT da razec didi xania,<br />

gangaSs vtex _ ori sagundo simReris<br />

garda arc erTi simRera<br />

cocxlad ar Sesrulebula! me is<br />

ufro madardebs, xvdebodnen ki<br />

amas is adamianebi, romlebic didi<br />

pativiT iyvnen miwveuli, rom maT<br />

atyuebdnen? imizezeben, rom<br />

xarisxis gamo akeTeben amas. mTeli<br />

pasuxismgeblobiT geubnebiT, me<br />

amas arasodes vakadreb Cems msmenels.<br />

isic minda giTxraT, ar gegonoT,<br />

amas xalxi ver xvdebodes.<br />

xalxma Seuracxyofilad ar unda<br />

igrZnos Tavi... es erTi patara fragmentia<br />

Cveni kulturuli yofisa,<br />

romelic aranairad ar minda did<br />

masStabebSi da Cvens yoveldRiur<br />

yofaSi gadaizardos.<br />

sxva ra giTxraT?.. ubralod,<br />

Zalian ucnauria, rom swored Cemi<br />

koncertis dros aris xolme problemebi<br />

sapatriarqos mxridan, arada,<br />

rodesac sapatriarqodan damirekaven,<br />

sadac ar unda viyo, yovelTvis<br />

maT gverdiT var, pirvel<br />

rigSi, uwmindesis gverdiT, romelic<br />

Zalian did siyvaruls mimJRavnebs<br />

mec da mariamsac. amitom, ra<br />

Tqma unda, kiTxva gamiCnda, _ ratom,<br />

maincdamainc, Cems koncertze<br />

xdeba ase?..<br />

N3 (<strong>180</strong>) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.<br />

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