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gakvaluli, magram me is adamianebi<br />
ufro maRizianeben, romlebsac<br />
epirferebian da amas irgeben. Cem-<br />
Tvis isini inteleqtualurad dabal<br />
doneze myofi adamianebi arian.<br />
samwuxarod, dRevandel cxovrebaSi<br />
imravla aseTma adamianebma.<br />
saqarTveloSi mamakaci naklebad<br />
kadrulobda am rolis morgebas.<br />
aseTi adamianebi yovelTvis gamokveTilebi<br />
iyvnen xolme jansaR<br />
wreebSi, miuTiTebdnen, rom mas SeuZlia<br />
mliqvneloba. dRes sagrZnoblad<br />
gaizarda maTi ricxvi da<br />
ukve yvelaferi erTmaneTSi airia.<br />
guli mwydeba, rom es saqarTvelo-<br />
Si xdeba, sadac vaJkacoba sxvagvarad<br />
aRiqmeboda. vaJkaci kaci namdvilad<br />
ar miiRebda im raRac moqonil<br />
sityvebsa da saqcielebs,<br />
rasac dRes iReben da amitom mwydeba<br />
guli. vaJkacobis cnebac<br />
ikargeba.<br />
_ gismenT da maxsendeba,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisufleba-<br />
Si mosvlidan, sul raRac, erTi<br />
wlis Semdeg ambobdiT, _ saqarT-<br />
mReris, Tavi rom irCinos da me<br />
amas saTakilod ar miviCnev, magram<br />
is, rom Sen mas mxolod ucxoeTSi<br />
wasvlis da mere iqidan Camosvlis<br />
Semdeg aRiareb, es saSinelebaa. rac<br />
mTavaria, ukve ikargeba zRvari ni-<br />
Wiersa da Zalian niWiers Soris.<br />
_ ki magram, Tundac saSem-<br />
sruleblo teqnika aris ki dRes<br />
iseTi saqarTveloSi, rom saTana-<br />
dod iqnas gamoyenebuli?<br />
_ aris, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
ikargebian. jer marto Cemi Svilis<br />
TaobaSi, Tundac klasikur sferoSi,<br />
imdenia, rom... magaliTad,<br />
cota xnis winaT italiaSi Zalian<br />
seriozuli gamocda Caabara samma<br />
niWierma vokalistma, magram qveyanam<br />
verc erTi daafinansa da saswavleblad<br />
ver wavidnen. „Cven swavlas<br />
ar vafinansebT”, _ aseTi iyo<br />
pasuxi. ver vxvdebi, aba, ras afinanseben?<br />
xmamaRla vacxadeb, rom<br />
Zalian bevri niWieri adamiani zis<br />
saxlSi.<br />
_ saubarSi sityva „varskvlavi”<br />
vaxseneT... gasuli 2016 weli, al-<br />
baT, arasodes dagaviwydebaT _<br />
_ aq ar ician da cxadia, rac ar<br />
ician, im kuTxiT ganaTleba ucxoeTSi<br />
unda miiRon.<br />
_ e. i. yvelaferi Tavidan aris<br />
dasawyebi?<br />
_ yvelaferi, SeiZleba, ara, magram<br />
Zalian bevri ram aris Tavidan<br />
dasawyebi da aq tyuilad drois<br />
xarjva ar Rirs... radgan gaxmovaneba<br />
vaxseneT, aqve unda iTqvas, rom<br />
Semsruleblebis garkveuli nawili<br />
mere Tavs imarTlebs: ici, ra, iZulebuli<br />
var, koncertze plus<br />
fonogramiT vimRero, televiziiT<br />
mravalmilionianma sazogadoebam<br />
kargi xarisxiT rom naxoso. solo<br />
koncertzea saubari. rodesac msmenels<br />
eubnebi, mobrZandi da momismineo<br />
da am dros cocxlad erT<br />
simReras ar mReri, es CemTvis,<br />
ubralod, Zalian didi uzneobaa.<br />
aq mxolod im 2500 kacze araa<br />
saubari, romelic darbazSi zis da<br />
tyuilze umRerian, aramed tyuils<br />
aCveven momaval Taobas. xom xedavT,<br />
mesamejer wavedi momavali<br />
Taobisken.<br />
_ da ram migviyvana aqamde?<br />
deni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac,<br />
Tvrameti, SeiZleba, metic. sisxlxorceuli<br />
gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi<br />
da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb<br />
locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac<br />
beras interviu movismine televiziiT,<br />
iseTi Rirsebebi gamoavlina,<br />
rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian<br />
sworad azrovnebs, kargi biWia. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT<br />
erTmaneTs da adamianebi, romlebic,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis”, ase<br />
vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc<br />
ki bera an batoni biZina momesalmeboda,<br />
uceb Cndebodnen iqve<br />
axlos da Sinauruli toniT metyodnen<br />
xolme: „Tamriko, am adamianebs<br />
eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda<br />
avidnen”. mecineboda. vxedavdi,<br />
keTilmosurneebi rogor „zrunavdnen”<br />
maTze da zustad im urTier-<br />
Tobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar<br />
unda Semdgariyo. bolos ukve<br />
cremlebamde vicinodi da winaswar<br />
vambobdi, _ axla naxeT, aucileblad<br />
mova es adamiani-meTqi. da<br />
asec xdeboda. Cemi megobrebi meubnebodnen,<br />
_ ar gvegona, marTla ase<br />
ba?” ar minda, aseTi kiTxvebi damisvan,<br />
minda, ufro meti imediani saxe<br />
da Zalian bevri Rimili davinaxo.<br />
_ dabolos, qalbatono Tamar,<br />
iyo vinme mTavrobidan Tqveni varskvlavis<br />
gaxsnisas solo kon-<br />
certze?<br />
_ ara, aravin yofila, CavTvale,<br />
rom ar ecalaT da ojaxis wevrebi<br />
gamouSves. yvelaze Zalian imaze<br />
mwydeba guli, rom oTxi solo koncerti<br />
Cavatare da miuxedavad<br />
Zalian didi survilsa, mizezTa<br />
gamo, uwmindesi ver mobrZanda.<br />
ityvian, rom amjerad janmrTeloba<br />
ar uwyobs xels, Tumca Tavad<br />
yvela koncertis dros didi survili<br />
hqonda da ambobda, aucileblad<br />
movalo. sxvaTa Soris, aqve<br />
minda giTxraT, rom sul ramdenime<br />
dRis winaT, erT-erT telearxze,<br />
naCvenebi iyo koncerti,<br />
sadac darbazSi patriarqic ijda,<br />
prezidentic, mTavrobis warmomadgenlebic<br />
da 2500 moqalaqe. aq,<br />
erTi SexedviT, TiTqos kargis<br />
meti araferia, rom ara erTi mTavari,<br />
vfiqrob, samarcxvino nawili<br />
bera ivaniSvili<br />
`ara, naTluli arasdros mirekavs. me yovelTvis vurekav, magram piradad<br />
verasdros davukavSirdi, misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod, ise xdeba, rom,<br />
raRacnairad, ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici, iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec<br />
gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari. sul<br />
mainteresebs, rogor micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs Cemze? me minda vuTxra,<br />
rom Zalian miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos locvebs vkiTxulob naTlulTaTvis<br />
da is CemTan aris ukve ramdeni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac, Tvrameti, SeiZleba,<br />
metic. sisxlxorceuli gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb<br />
locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac beras interviu movismine televiziiT, iseTi<br />
Rirsebebi gamoavlina, rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian sworad azrovnebs, kargi<br />
biWia. sxvaTa Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da adamianebi,<br />
romlebic, `qarTuli ocnebis~, ase vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc ki bera an<br />
batoni biZina momesalmeboda, uceb Cndebodnen iqve axlos da Sinauruli toniT<br />
metyodnen xolme: `Tamriko, am adamianebs eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda avidnen~.<br />
mecineboda. vxedavdi, keTilmosurneebi rogor `zrunavdnen~ maTze da zustad im<br />
urTierTobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar unda Semdgariyo~<br />
veloSi Rirsebaze metad mliqvneloba<br />
fasobso. SeiZleba vi-<br />
fiqroT, rom morig arCevnebSi,<br />
maTi kvlav gamarjvebis Semdeg, es<br />
fraza ufro gamyarda?<br />
_ rom ar minelda, faqtia. mTeli<br />
ubedureba is aris, rom momavali<br />
Taobebi fuWdeba. rodesac<br />
Svili xedavs, rom mamamisi am mliqvnelobiT<br />
mogebulia, ra Tqma unda,<br />
igives gaakeTebs, radgan icis,<br />
Zalian bevri ram iolad miuva.<br />
_ gamosavali?<br />
_ swored eg aris Cemi kiTxvis<br />
niSani, romelsac pasuxs ver vcem.<br />
WianWvelebiviT momravldnen aseTi<br />
adamianebi absoluturad yvela<br />
sferoSi, rac ukve Zalian saSiSia.<br />
aqve minda aRvniSno, rom Taobebs<br />
vkargavT, rogorc msmenels. maSin,<br />
rodesac ar awvdi da ar Seayvareb<br />
imas, rac aris Seni, Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
da marTla faseuli, is<br />
veraviTar SemTxvevaSi ver gansazRvravs<br />
da swor Seafasebas ver<br />
gaakeTebs. nurc movTxovT amas axalgazrdas,<br />
romelic am fesvebze<br />
ar aris gazrdili. rasac xSirad<br />
asmenineben da cxvirwin utrialeben,<br />
mas is hgonia kargi, faseuli.<br />
rodesac Sens fesvebze ar zrdi,<br />
gansjis unaric aRar aqvs. ignorireba<br />
gaukeTes qarTul kulturas,<br />
romelic namdvilad Zalian<br />
Rirebuli gvaqvs. ar davkonkretdebi,<br />
magram cota yofila, vinc<br />
saqarTveloSi arafers warmoadgenda,<br />
wasula ucxoeTSi, SeiZleba,<br />
iq WurWeli erecxa, magram trapidan<br />
Camovida, _ esaa mTavari. sul<br />
vambob, Cven „trapebis daavadeba”<br />
gvaqvs-meTqi. trapidan Camovida da<br />
varskvlavi ewoda imitom, rom ucxoeTSi<br />
iyo. nuravin miwyens, Tu vityvi,<br />
rom bevri iq Zalian iaffasian<br />
klubebSi, igive qorwilebSi<br />
Tqveni saxelobis varskvlavi gaix-<br />
sna. ras eliT 2017 wlisgan maSin,<br />
roca, kulturuli Tvalsazri-<br />
siT, axlac miTxariT da saerTod,<br />
bevrjer aRginiSnavT, rom saqar-<br />
TveloSi Zalian mZime mdgomare-<br />
obaa? maxsovs, qarTuli musikal-<br />
uri xelovnebis gadasarCenad<br />
Tqven erT-erTma pirvelma aimaRleT<br />
xma, uaric ki TqviT simR-<br />
eraze da ganacxadeT, rom qarTu-<br />
li estrada ar arsebobs... dRes<br />
ras fiqrobT?<br />
_ varskvlavs rac Seexeba, 2016<br />
welma damarwmuna, rom namdvilad<br />
aravin ityvis Cemze „e. w. varskvlavs”,<br />
iseTi didi siyvaruli modioda<br />
xalxisgan. varskvlavis dafiqsireba<br />
swored imis dasturia, rom<br />
xalxs uyvarxar... ras veli 2017<br />
wlisgan? pirvel rigSi, imas, rom<br />
Cvenma qveyanam da gansakuTrebiT<br />
maT, visac es xelewifeba, gaacnobieros,<br />
ramdenad mniSvnelovania<br />
qveynis kulturuli Tu socialuri<br />
ganviTareba. katastroful<br />
mdgomareobaSi varT. aviRoT, Tundac,<br />
gaxmovanebis sakiTxi. nuTu,<br />
SeuZlebelia, rom ramdenime adamiani<br />
gauSvan, Tundac, sazRvargareT,<br />
sadac Zalian didi gamocdileba<br />
arsebobs, Tu rogor unda gaaxmovano<br />
koncerti. amaSi Cadon garkveuli<br />
Tanxa. iciT, rogori mniSvnelovania,<br />
rodesac mReri da sa-<br />
Tanadod ar gixmovaneben, xmas ver<br />
awvden Sens msmenels, saTqmels ver<br />
eubnebi. ratom? imitom, rom iq ar<br />
zis, davuSvaT, profesionali xmis<br />
reJisori, an sxvebi, Tundac ganaTeba<br />
ar aris kargi, mxatvroba da<br />
ase Semdeg. raRac Tanxebi unda<br />
gaimeton, romelic axalgazrdebis<br />
swavlas moxmardeba.<br />
_ da es unda moxdes ucxoeT-<br />
Si?<br />
_ zerele damokidebulebam im<br />
saqmis mimarT, romelic miaCniaT,<br />
rom Seni kulturis iseTi mniSvnelovani<br />
nawili ar aris. aba, ra<br />
aris mniSvnelovani, ucxoeli mom-<br />
Rerlebis da musikosebis erTjeradad<br />
Camoyvana? vfiqrob, rom<br />
ara, aq aRzrdaa ufro mniSvnelovani.<br />
saerTod, rogorc erTi rigiTi<br />
moqalaqe, mec maqvs kiTxva: ratom<br />
xdeba es yvelaferi, amdeni<br />
uaryofiTi movlena? kidev kargi,<br />
rom gvaqvs amis ufleba. is, rom me<br />
Tavisuflad SemiZlia dRes amaze<br />
vilaparako da Tqven presaSi dabe-<br />
WdoT, esec Zalian bevrs niSnavs.<br />
`nacionalebis” xelisuflebis<br />
dros marTla Zalian didi saSiSroeba<br />
iyo. megobrebis wreSic ki,<br />
rodesac politikaze saubrobdnen,<br />
telefonis aparats mTlianad<br />
Slidnen. dRes es ar xdeba. laparakoben,<br />
SeiZleba usmenen kidec,<br />
magram, yovel SemTxvevaSi, amis<br />
gulisTvis, sadRac, kojris tyeSi<br />
ar waiyvanen da ar moklaven...<br />
_ darekvaze gamaxsenda... naTlulma<br />
(qalbatoni Tamrikos naT-<br />
luli bera ivaniSvili gaxlavT)<br />
Tu dagirekaT da mogilocaT<br />
naTlisReba?<br />
_ ara, naTluli arasdros mirekavs.<br />
me yovelTvis vurekav, magram<br />
piradad verasdros davukavSirdi,<br />
misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod,<br />
ise xdeba, rom, raRacnairad,<br />
ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici,<br />
iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec<br />
gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom<br />
axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari.<br />
sul mainteresebs, rogor<br />
micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs<br />
Cemze? me minda vuTxra, rom Zalian<br />
miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos<br />
locvebs vkiTxulob naTlul-<br />
TaTvis da is CemTan aris ukve ram-<br />
Tu iyoo. mere ukve vxumrobdi, _<br />
cocxze arian Semomsxdrebi, rogorc<br />
„babaiagebi” da uceb mofrindebian,<br />
raRac zedmeti rom ar vu-<br />
TxraT erTmaneTs-meTqi”. aseTi<br />
adamianebi dRes Zalian boboqroben.<br />
_ cudia, Tu am adamianebs<br />
ujereben da naTliasa da naT-<br />
luls Soris urTierToba ar aris.<br />
_ ara mgonia, rom mTlad ase<br />
ujerebdnen, Tumca boloc makvirvebs...<br />
saerTod, rodesac „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” xelisuflebaSi movida<br />
da xalxi ukmayofilo iyo raRac<br />
movlenebTan Tu gadawyvetilebebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, me sul vambobdi,<br />
rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
yuramde bevri ram ar midis, Zalian<br />
did sainformacio vakuumSia es<br />
adamiani, magram...<br />
_ dRes ra gindaT, rom mis<br />
yuramde mivides?<br />
_ ra vici... mis yuramde dResac<br />
bevri ram aris misatani. yvelaze<br />
mniSvnelovani, albaT, isaa, rom<br />
garemocva gafiltros, ase ukeTesi<br />
iqneba... imedia, dafiqrdebian,<br />
Tu vin aris maTTvis namdvili moyvare<br />
da keTilismsurveli. vfiqrob,<br />
yvelaferi gamosworebadia,<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi, magis imedi<br />
maqvs _ me is adamiani var, romelic<br />
avadmyofurad aris Seyvarebuli<br />
Tavis qveyanaze. ramdenjerme<br />
mqonda SemoTavazeba da SemeZlo,<br />
saqarTvelodan wavsuliyavi. saboloo<br />
jamSi, an davrCebodi mogebuli,<br />
an _ ara, magram faqtia, ver<br />
wavedi. ori kvirac ki miWirs saqar-<br />
Tvelos datoveba da aRar minda,<br />
daTrgunuli saxeebi davinaxo, ar<br />
minda, viRac quCaSi maCerebdes da<br />
meubnebodes: „aa, Sen is adamiani<br />
xar, aqciaze rom ideqi, gviTxariT,<br />
rogor gamoswordeba mdgomareo-<br />
_ tyuili da uzneoba! am koncert-<br />
Tan mimarTebiTac da, zogadadac,<br />
minda, yvelas mivmarTo, vinc am<br />
RonisZiebebs awyobs _ moeSvan spekulaciuri<br />
RonisZiebebis Catarebas,<br />
rodesac erTi konkretuli,<br />
didi adamianis saxels iyeneben da<br />
amis gamo, rogorc ityvian, „fexze<br />
dgas mTeli qveyana”. es koncertic<br />
am saxis iyo, Tumca me ufro sxva<br />
movlenam SemaSfoTa da aRmaSfo-<br />
Ta _ es swored im tyuilisa da uzneobis<br />
dasturi iyo, razec zemoT<br />
gesaubreT da razec didi xania,<br />
gangaSs vtex _ ori sagundo simReris<br />
garda arc erTi simRera<br />
cocxlad ar Sesrulebula! me is<br />
ufro madardebs, xvdebodnen ki<br />
amas is adamianebi, romlebic didi<br />
pativiT iyvnen miwveuli, rom maT<br />
atyuebdnen? imizezeben, rom<br />
xarisxis gamo akeTeben amas. mTeli<br />
pasuxismgeblobiT geubnebiT, me<br />
amas arasodes vakadreb Cems msmenels.<br />
isic minda giTxraT, ar gegonoT,<br />
amas xalxi ver xvdebodes.<br />
xalxma Seuracxyofilad ar unda<br />
igrZnos Tavi... es erTi patara fragmentia<br />
Cveni kulturuli yofisa,<br />
romelic aranairad ar minda did<br />
masStabebSi da Cvens yoveldRiur<br />
yofaSi gadaizardos.<br />
sxva ra giTxraT?.. ubralod,<br />
Zalian ucnauria, rom swored Cemi<br />
koncertis dros aris xolme problemebi<br />
sapatriarqos mxridan, arada,<br />
rodesac sapatriarqodan damirekaven,<br />
sadac ar unda viyo, yovelTvis<br />
maT gverdiT var, pirvel<br />
rigSi, uwmindesis gverdiT, romelic<br />
Zalian did siyvaruls mimJRavnebs<br />
mec da mariamsac. amitom, ra<br />
Tqma unda, kiTxva gamiCnda, _ ratom,<br />
maincdamainc, Cems koncertze<br />
xdeba ase?..<br />
N3 (<strong>180</strong>) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.<br />
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