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neli vardiaSvili 597 11 12 47 advokatTa asociaciis Tavmj- domare, zaza xatiaSvili, acxadebs, rom Tu xelisuflebaSi wesieri adamiani mova, aucileblad dasjis iusticiis umaRle- si sabWosa da uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomares, nino gven- etaZes, aseve iusticiis ministr Tea wulukiansa da sxvebs, romlebmac qveyanasa da sasamarTlo sistemaSi mdgomareoba ar gamoaswores da kidev ufro daamZimes. zaza xatiaSvili: _ nino gvenetaZe uzenaesi sasamarTlos Zalian cudi Tavmjdomare aRmoCnda. man ver gaamarTla samoqalaqo sazogadoebis imedebi da, Cemi SefasebiT, gadaiqca, kaba- Si gamowyobil murusiZed. amitom mas bolo erTi welia, ase mivmar- Tav: nino gvenetaZe-murusiZisa, an murusiZe kabaSi. aseTi murusiZeebi bevrni arian, magram gvenetaZe unda gamxdariyo is adamiani, romelic sasamarTlos gakeTilSobilebasa da misi damoukideblobis process daiwyebda, magram is sruliad sawinaaRmdegod moiqca. yvelas kargad axsovs skandali, romelic gamocdebze im pirovnebis gamo moxda, romelic dakavSirebuli iyo nino gvenetaZe-murusiZesTan. is misi doqtoranti gaxldaT da mosamarTleTa gamocdebze 100 qula miiRo. amaze erTi ambavi atyda da maSinve gvenetaZe-murusiZisken gaiSvires xeli. oficialuri gamoZiebac Catarda, romelmac ukanonobebi daadastura. magali- Tad is, rom bileTis sakiTxebi am adamianisTvis winaswar iyo cnobili da amisi Sedegi iyo aseTi maRali maCvenebelic. radgan gamoZiebam es 100%-iT daadastura, darCa is, rom am adamianisTvis brali unda waeyenebinaT, magram brals aravis uyenebs. Tu es imitom xdeba, rom damnaSave aris nino gvenetaZemurusiZisa, e. i. is ukve mTlianad moqceulia xelisuflebis gavlenis qveS. Tundac am faqtis gamo ukve imdenad marTvadi iqneba, rom uzenaesi sabWos Tavmjdomareobidan wasvlac rom undodes, aravin gauSvebs da bolomde kuTxeSi eyolebaT mimwyvdeuli. Cemi gancxadeba simarTlesTan axlosaa da amis damtkiceba bevri ramiT SeiZleba. magaliTad imiT, rom is loialurad iqceva iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi odiozuri figurebis mosamarTleebad daniSvnis dros. _ loialur moqcevaSi ras gulisxmobT? _ iusticiis sabWos Tavmjdomareobis dros mosamarTled kvlav dainiSnen levan murusiZe da mamia fxakaZe, romelic saakaSvilis dros Tbilisis saqalaqo sasa- 294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com marTlos Tavmjdomare iyo, aseve gvanca yufaraZis mosamarTle Tamar alania, romelic aseve erT-er- Ti murusiZea kabaSi. swored Tamar alaniam, iusticiis sabWos wevrebTan erTad, preskonferencia Caatara farul arCevnebamde ramdenime dRiT adre da ganacxada, _ Cven xmas vaZlevT levan murusiZeso. zaza xatiaSvili: `nino gvenetaZe gadaiqca kabaSi gamowyobil murusiZed!~ aseTi faqti msoflio istorias ar axsovs, rom mosamarTleebs CaetarebinoT preskonferencia msgavs viTarebaSi da eTqvaT, erT konkretul pirs vaZlevT xmaso da daer- RviaT sxvisi uflebebi. am periodSi saqarTveloSi Camosuli iyo mosamarTle amerikidan, konkretulad teqsasidan da mas amis Taobaze SekiTxva davusvi. mi- Txra, rom aseTi ram amerikaSi gamoricxulia, moxdes. msgavsi faqtis Semdeg, es adamiani, sazogadoebis zewolis Sedegad, aucileblad wavidoda sasamarTlodan da iuridiul sazogadoebaSic ver gamoCndebodao. anu yvelam icis, rom ase- Ti ram ar SeiZleba, magram gvenetaZe-murusiZisas iusticiis sab- Wos Tavmjdomareobis dros es adamiani kvlav mosamarTled dainiSna. ra Tqma unda, damnaSave gvenetaZea. aqedan gamomdinare, is aris iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos Zalian cudi Tavmjdomare, radgan yvelanairi ukanonoba, rac sircxvilad miiCneva saerTaSoriso asparezze, am sabWoSi kanondeba. _ bevri mas imiT amarTlebs, rom iusticiis sabWoSi gvenetaZes mxolod erTi xma aqvs da, faq- tobrivad, ar SeuZlia, raime Secvalos. ase ar aris? _ cxadia, es ase ar aris da mas mxolod erTi xma ar aqvs. parlamentis umravlesobam, anu „qarTulma ocnebam”, iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi airCia vaxtang Tordia, kaxa sofromaZe da eva gociriZe. am sameulma xma misca levan murusiZis kvlav mosamarTled arCevas. gociriZem CemTan teledebatebis dros ganacxada, _ murusiZe rom agverCia, amaze mTeli iusticiis sabWo winaswar viyaviT SeTanxmebulio. amis Sesaxeb icoda nino gvenataZemac da mas fufuneba hqonda, rom murusiZisTvis xma ar miecao. gociriZes simarTle wamoscda, rom murusiZis arCevis dros iusticiis sabWos wevrebs rolebi winaswar hqondaT ganawilebuli ise, rom murusiZe ar dazaralebuliyo da is kvlav gamxdariyo mosamarTle. aris Tu ara es, savaraudod, sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli? diaxac, rom aris. roca aseTi rameebi xdeba, normaluri xelisufleba rom gvyavdes, nino gvenetaZes, sxvagvarad Tu ar dasjidnen, Tanamdebobas mainc daatovebinebdnen. rodesac gociriZes pirdapir eTerSi simarTle wamoscda, vkiTxe, _ es iciT, rom sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulia-meTqi? da uceb feri dakarga. misi uneburi simarTle vTargmne da strasburg- Si waviRe, roca eva gociriZis kandidatura ixileboda evropis adamianis uflebaTa sasamarTlos mosamarTlis Tanamdebobaze, amitom, sruliad samarTlianad, misi kandidatura Cavarda. _ am speqtaklSi monawileoba- ze nino gvenetaZe rom ar daT- anxmebuliyo, levan murusiZes ver airCevdnen kvlav mosamarTled? _ ver airCevdnen imitom, rom gvenetaZe ityoda, am TamaSs kategoriulad vemijnebio. aqedan gamomdinare, verc rolebs gadaanawilebdnen. murusiZes 10 xma sWirdeboda da zustad amdeni xma miiRo kidevac imitom, rom „ocnebis” ar- Ceulma samive kandidatma mas dau- Wira mxari. is mosamarTleebi, romlebic „nacionalebis” dros aTasgvar sibinZureze awerdnen xels, kvlav mosamarTleebad mogvevlinen gvenetaZis, biZina ivaniSvilis meoxebiTa da xelSewyobiT. did TamaSSi monawileobs uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare. Tu nino gvenetaZe-murusiZisa amaze Tanaxma ar iyo, is Tanamdebobidan gadadgeboda. Cemi informaciiT, imdenad Sexmatkbildnen gvenetaZe da murusiZe, rom sxvadasxva Sexvedrebze erTad cekvaven da tortsac ukve erTad Wrian. axla vfiqrob, saqarTvelos prezidents ana doliZe rom waredgina uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomared, aseTi bakqanalia ar iqneboda sasamarTlo sistemaSi. is ar wavidoda kompromisze murusiZeebTan. nino gvenetaZes maSin Cven vaxasiaTebdiT, rogorc meryev da aramyar pirovnebas da es gamarTlda kidevac. prezidentma mainc gvenetaZe daasaxela, amitom mas gverdiT davudeqiT im mizniT, rom gvindoda, murusiZeebis tyve ar gamxdariyo, magram mosaxdeni mainc moxda. gvenetaZe-murusiZisa dRes arafers warmoadgens sasamarTlo sistemaSi. is aris iseTive marioneti, rogoric, Tavis droze, kublaSvili iyo, radgan mis magivrad gadawyvetilebas iRebdnen Cin- CalaZe, murusiZe, meiSvili da cercvaZe. CinCalaZesa da cercvaZes am weliwads vada gasdiT da apireben, es adamianebic xelmeored daniSnon mosamarTleebad. anu, sabolood, saakaSvilis reJimis samkuTxedi aRdgeba, is sasamarTlo manqana, romelic ukanono gadawyvetilebebs iRebda. _ e. i. samarTlian sasamarT- loze ocnebac ki daasamares? _ zustad asea. samarTliani sasamarTlo saqarTveloSi ar gveqneba, Tu iseTi xelisufleba ar movida, romelic am adamianebs pasuxs agebinebs. mtkicebulebebi maqvs imisa, rom uzenaes sasamarTlosa da saapelacio sasamarTloebSi erT dRes gamohqondaT gadawyvetilebebi erTsa da imive saqmeebze saakaSvilis reJimis dros da aseT mosamarTleebs „ocnebam” xelSeuxeblobis garantia misca. nebismieri iuristi, nebismier qveyana- Si getyviT, rom aseTi gadawyvetileba gayalbebulia. amis Camdeni mosamarTleebi sabraldebo skamze rom dasva, veravin xmas ver gagcems. Tu xelisufleba mova, romelsac samarTliani sasamarTlo endomeba, amas gaakeTebs kidevac. am xelisuflebas rom es ar unda, kargad gamoCnda. erTi kviris mosuli iyo ivaniSvili da misi xalxi, rom erT dReSi gamotanili gadawyvetilebis dokumentebi mivutane wulukians, romelic maSin mTavari prokurori gaxldaT. sanam Sevitandi, kancelariaSi gavatare, radgan isic vifiqre, rom SeiZleboda, gadaegdoT da eTqvaT, xatiaSvils CvenTvis aseTi dokumentebi ar moutaniao. piradad miveci xelSi mTavar prokurors da vuTxari, mosamarTleebi rom gadawyvetilebebs ar iRebdnen da ise „akulakebdnen” adamianebs, es aris imis mtkicebuleba-meTqi. ori wlis mere rom movTxove es gadawyvetileba, isev kabinetSi edo da Sesaswavlad ar hqonda gadacemuli. ivaniSvilis xelisufleba mosvlis dRidanve gaurigda murusiZeebis sasamarTlos. realuradac murusiZeebi ivaniSvilis fuliT gamoiCeken da is afinansebda „nacionalur moZraobas”. aqedan gamomdinare, ivaniSvilma is jgufi, romelSic mas fuli hqonda gadaxdili, ar daSala. _ e. i. nino gvenetaZem, levan murusiZem Tu sxva mosamarTleeb- ma, ra saxis danaSaulic ar unda Caidinon, xelSeuxebloba garan- tirebuli aqvT? _ am adamianebs xelfass uxdis qarTveli xalxi. samwuxarod, xalxmac murusiZeebs dauWira mxari. _ xalxma rogor dauWira mxari murusiZeebs? _ dekemberSi levan murusiZis kandidaturis ganxilva iyo iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi. aqcia Cavatare da xalxsac movuwode, gamosuliyvnen da gverdiT damdgomodnen. maSin vTqvi, rom iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi myofi „ocnebis” arCeulebi murusiZes miscemdnen xmas. erTma maTganmac rom ar misces xma, gadavrCebiT-meTqi. bi- Zinas mxardamWerebi gamocvivdnen da feisbuqze erTi ambavi atexes, _ zaza xatiaSvili amas igonebs, dakveTebs asrulebs, batoni biZina amas rogor ikadrebso?! roca 25 dekembers murusiZe airCies, bi- Zinas goSiebi gaCumdnen, radgan gamoCnda, rom xatiaSvili marTali iyo da biZina _ matyuara. Tumca is adamianebi, romlebsac wlebis ganmavlobaSi miliarderi fuls uxdis da afinasebs, xom ar gamovidodnen da biZinas ar dauwyebdnen lanZRvas? maSin mec davwere feisbuqze: Tqve naZirlebo, biZinas goSiebo, axla gamodiT da mipasuxeT, biZinam es ikadra Tu ar ikadra? gagrZeleba me-11 gv. 8 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.

neli vardiaSvili 597 11 12 47 rogor afaseben uzenaesi sasa- marTlos Tavmjdomaris postze nino gvenetaZis saqmianobas iuristTa wreebSi? risi Secvla SeeZlo mravali ukanonobis momswre sistemaSi devnilis statusiT mosulma adamianma da ar Secvala? am kiTxvebiT, amjerad, „qronika+” advokat mamuka nozaZes mimarTavs. mamuka nozaZe: _ uzenaes sasamarTloSi axlac iseTive uZraobaa, rogorc ‘nacionalebis” xelisuflebis dros iyo. axlac ar ixileba saqmeebi. sisxlis samarTlis saqmeebze ise- Tive trafaretuli ganCinebebi gamoaqvT, rogoric aqamde gamodioda. sisxlis samarTlis saqme- Ta palatas kvlav gamoaqvs erTgverdiani ganCinebebi, sadac weria, rom saqmis ganxilva ar aris mniSvnelovani samarTlisa da er- Tgvarovani sasamarTlo praqtikis ganviTarebisTvis da am mizeziT eubnebian uars mxares sakasacio saCivris ganxilvaze. yvela saqmeze identuri ganCineba gamodioda da gamodis, mxolod gvar-saxelebi icvleba, amaze ukve mudmivad vwerT. _ uzenaesi sasamarTlos misia realurad ras warmoadgens? _ es gaxlavT sakasacio instanciis, yvelaze maRali rangis sasamarTlo saqarTveloSi. cxadia, aq mosamarTleebi realurad unda ixilavdnen saqmeebs, pirvel da meore instanciebSi daSvebuli xarvezebi rom gamoswordes da mosamarTleebma dasabuTebuli ganCinebebi gamoitanon. es, ra Tqma unda, mniSvnelovani iqneba sasamarTlo praqtikisTvis, radgan analogiur saqmeebze veRar daadgenen ukanono ganaCenebs da is saxelmZRvanelo xasiaTis gaxdeba. aseve kargi iqneba im adamianebisTvis, romlebmac pirvel da meore donis sasamarTloebSi samarTlianobas ver miaRwies da imedis TvaliT Sehyureben uzenaes sasamarTlos. sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba an ganCineba ar aris, mxolod da mxolod, normaTa citirebis saSualeba. sasamarTlo gadawyvetilebebSi unda Candes mosamarTlis analizis unari, azrovneba da samarTalSemoqmedeba. samwuxarod, mxolod TiTze CamosaTvlel mosamarTleebs Seu- ZliaT azrovneba, rac maT sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebebSic naTlad Cans. uzanaesi sasamarTlos funqcia swored is aris, rom unda iyos maRali donis sasamarTlo da iq samarTlebrivad unda asabuTebdnen gadawyvetilebebs. ver davmalav da am uwyebaSi, jer kidev, saakaSvilis dros daniSnuli mosamarTleebi arian mokala- Tebulni. isini winaT xelisuflebis mimarT loialurobiT gamoirCeodnen da dResac igives agr- Zeleben ukve arsebuli xelisuflebis mimarT. metic, sami vakanturi adgilia uzenaes sasamarTloSi, meoTxe axla ganTavisufldeba da mosamarTleebi imis gamo ar iniSnebian, rom mmarTveli partia garkveuli kandidatebis maTadmi erTgulebaSi ver darwmunda. process Segnebulad swored amitom aWianureben, riTac zians ayeneben sazogadoebisa da marTlmsajulebis interesebs. _ e. i. uzenaes sasamarTloSi samarTals ver ipovi da kidev ufro dazaraldebi? _ diax. sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomobis ufleba, romelic garantirebulia qveynis konstituciiT, faqtobrivad, xelmiuwvdomelia. ra Tqma unda, yvelas aqvs ufleba da saSualeba, sasamarTlos mimarTos, magram sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomobaSi mxolod es ar moiazreba. sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomo- N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w. 294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com mamuka nozaZe: `nino gvenetaZe ver Seva istoriaSi, rogorc uzenaesi sasamarTlos samarTliani Tavmjdomare!~ ba aris is, rom saqme iyos obieqturad, kanonis Sesabamisad gansjili da adamiani ar gaxdes vinmes interesebis msxverpli. zogierTi, romelic warsulSi mZime danaSaulebebisTvis msjavrdadebuli iyo, dRes parlamentSi zis, aseve is mosamarTleebi, romlebmac maT mimarT ukanono, mkacri ganaCenebi gamoitanes, ar dasjilan da kvlav sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi arian. xelisuflebaSi myof yofil politpatimrebs, ratomRac, kiTxva ar uCndebaT, mosamarTle, romelic maT mimarT usamarTlo iyo, dRes samarTliani rogor aris da Tu samarTliani araa, ratom aris kvlav mosamarTle? es kiTxva imitom ar uCndebaT, rom zogierTma daumsaxureblad miiRo saocrad Tbili savarZeli parlamentSi da dRes, ambionze mdgari, ukve sxvagvarad uyurebs am sakiTxs. _ vis gulisxmobT, vin iqceva ase? _ gvar-saxelebs ar davasaxeleb, Tumca yvela mixvdeba, vin iyo msjavrdadebuli saakaSvilis reJimis dros da dRes vin aris parlamentis wevri. sazogadoeba kargad icnobs am adamianebs. „ocnebis” xelisuflebam dapireba gasca, rom uzenaes sasamarTlosa da saerTo sasamarTloebis Sesaxeb kanonSi cvlileba unda Sesuliyo, romlis Tanaxmadac, sasamarTlo wevrTa raodenoba gaizrdeboda. amave dros, mosamarTleTa raodenoba unda gansazRvruliyo pirdapir kanoniT. mesame talRis egidiT es gaJRerda da Tavdapirvel proeqtSi is iyo kidevac. amis Semdeg nino gvenetaZisa da Tea wulukianis qmedebebSi, romelic ukve mxilebuli aris tyuilebsa da faqtebis utrirebaSi, gamoikveTa is, rom am xelisuflebas ar awyobs sasamarTlo wevrTa raodenobis gansazRvra da im regulaciis datoveba surs, rac saakaSvilis reJimis dros iyo. uzenaesi sasamarTlos plenums SeuZlia miiRos gadawyvetileba da Tu moundeba, Seamciros uzenaesi sasamarTlos wevrTa raodenoba, an gazardos. prezidentma veto daado saerTo sasamarTloebis Sesaxeb kanons da misi, aseve veneciis komisiis moTxovna aris is, rom ar unda mieces amis ufleba. vin aris uzenaesi sasamarTlos plenumi, rom man miiRos qveynis marTlmsajulebis umniSvnelovanes rgolSi gadawyvetileba, mosamarTleebi Seamciron, an gazardon politikuri niSniT? amis ufleba plenums ar unda hqondes. _ vin arian plenumis wevrebi? _ plenumSi Sedian uzenaesi sasamarTlos wevrebi: nino gvenetaZe, CinCalaZe da a. S. uzenaesi sasamarTlos yvela wevri plenumis wevradac iTvleba da misi Tavmjdomare aseve aris uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare _ gvenetaZe. vfiqrob, parlamenti gaiziarebs prezidentis vetos, radgan arasamTavrobo organizaciebis, uflebadamcvelebis, advokatebis moTxovnaa, rom parlamentma gansazRvros wevrTa raodenoba. sazogadoebamac unda icodes, saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlo ramdeni wevriT ganisazRvreba. aseve, parlamentma unda Sewyvitos is boikotireba da wevrTa ardaniSvna, romelsac Tveebis ganmavlobaSi agrZelebs. is mizanmimarTulad ar niSnavs prezidentis mier uzenaes sasamarTloSi wardgenili mosamarTleebis kandidatebs. SeiZleba, romelime kandidatis mimarT marTlac arsebobs legitimuri kiTxvebi, magram iq aseve arian kandidatebi, romel- Ta miukerZoeblobasTan dakav- SirebiT kiTxva ar arsebobs. Tu sxvagvarad aris raime, parlamentma prezidentTan unda iTanam- Sromlos da daasabuTos, ratom ar xdeba am adamianebis gamweseba uzenaes sasamarTloSi da es argumentebi sazogadoebisTvisac xelmisawvdomi unda gaxdes. an unda SearCion sxva kandidatebi, radgan amiT sazogadoeba zaraldeba. bunebrivia, wardgenil kandidats roca Caugdeben, prezidentmac ufro efeqtiani RonisZiebebi unda gaataros da a. S. _ amiT rogor zaraldeba sazogadoeba da ratom awyobs ase- Ti ram uzenaesi sasamrTlos xelmZRvanelobas, esec gangvima- rteT? _ sazogadoebas aRar aqvs molodini, rom maT saqmes obieqturi mosamarTle gansjis. jer erTi, am sasamarTloSi mosamarTleTa raodenoba mcirea, mere sasamarTlo dakompleqtebulia iseTi pirebiT, romlebic loialurad iyvnen ganwyobili wina xelisuflebis mimarT da adamiani, romelic mTeli cxovrebis man- Zilze gamoirCeoda araobieqturobiT, is obieqtur mosamarTled verasdros iqceva. amitom axali Zalis misvla uzenaes sasamarTloSi ar awyobs mmarTvel Zalasac. mas eSinia, rom es adamianebi obieqtur gadawyvetilebebs miiReben da amiT maT garkveul diskomforts Seuqmnian. amiT, SeiZleba, prokuraturis mier politikuri niSniT dapatimrebis faqti gamovlindes, am mosamarTlis mikerZoeba, ukanono saqcieli da a. S. aqedan gamomdinare, is pirebi, romelTac ganacxdi aqvT Setanili da fiqroben, rom maT saqmeebs samarTlianad gansjian, sawinaaRmdego xdeba. maTi saqmeebi kvlav xvdeba pavliaSvilis, gvenetaZis, paata silagaZis xelSi, romelTac iseTive trafaretuli gadawyvetilebebi gamoaqvT, rogoric winaT gamohqondaT am sasamarTloSi. gazeT „qronika+”-Si araerTxel gavaSuqeT aseTi faqtebic da axla yvela maTganze ar SevCerdebi. gamovyof erT saqmes, sadac sisxlis samarTlis palatis Tavmjdomarem, mosamarTle nino gvenetaZem, Salva doliZis saqmeze iseT gan- Cinebas moawera xeli, romelic alogikurobisa da absurdulobis naTeli nimuSia. prokurorma, romelic monawileobda Salva doliZis mimarT SeTiTxnil sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi, Semdgom, rogorc quTaisis saapelacio sasamarTlos sisxlis samarTlis saqmeTa palatis mosamarTlem, doliZis Suamdgomloba ganixila axlad gamovlenil garemoebaTa gamo im sisxlis samarTlis saqmeze, romelSic warsulSi prokurorad monawileobda. sisxlis samarTlis saproceso kodeqsSi naTlad weria: piri, romelic warsulSi monawileobda saqmeSi prokurorad, mosamarTled, sxdomis mdivnad, gamomZieblad, ver miiRebs igive saqmeSi monawileobas sxva instanciis sasamarTloSi. magram gvenetaZem ganacxada, TiTqos aseTi ram calsaxad ar aris aRniSnuli, rac aseve tyuilia. SegiZliaT, kodeqsSi es muxli Tqvenc naxoT. aseT ganCinebas moawera man xeli, rac samarcxvinoa. am konkretul faqtTan dakav- SirebiT is ase imitom moiqca, rom, Cemi azriT, ar kiTxulobs gan- Cinebebs, viTom didi moucleli da samarTlianobis qurumia da dro ar aqvs. gagrZeleba me-11 gv. 9