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Resistance. The New had a singer called<br />

Peter Roach and then he left. Then Jim<br />

came, and it became The Crowd.<br />

Todd: [to the wrong Jim] And you were in<br />

Witchcraft?<br />

Decker: That was my high school band.<br />

That had Sandy West from The Runaways.<br />

Kaa: That was Jim's girlfriend, too.<br />

Decker: Now she's lezbo. [laughing] I<br />

broke her down.<br />

Kaa: The Runaways played a couple house<br />

parties before they started to hit the LA and<br />

Hollywood circuit. A couple blocks away<br />

from here, Lita Ford, Joan Jett - before<br />

Cherri Currie was in it, when Michelle<br />

Steele, who later was in The Bangles,<br />

played bass - and Sandy.<br />

Todd: Wouldn't it be broken up by the second<br />

chord?<br />

Kaa: No. You could go 'til 11:30 before the<br />

cops rousted everybody. The band could get<br />

a whole set in.<br />

Todd: What are you guys doing now?<br />

Decker: We're working on a new fulllength<br />

album (tentatively titled "...Goes<br />

Wild").<br />

Kaa: We're doing a bunch of things. We<br />

just released that single, "I'm Not Happy<br />

Here" with Rick Bain on Hostage.<br />

Decker: We're going to record the album<br />

ourselves and put up all of<br />

our own money so we're not<br />

obligated to any label. Then<br />

if nobody wants it, we can<br />

do something with it.<br />

Kaa: Almost all of our<br />

songs are on MP3.com or<br />

on our website. Another<br />

thing I've been trying to do,<br />

with Brian of Grand Theft<br />

Audio, is put out a "bootleg"<br />

thing. There might be<br />

four different versions of<br />

"Modern Machine" from all<br />

different eras. It's going to<br />

be a CD filled with as many<br />

live outtakes from all of my<br />

different cassette recordings<br />

and things I have and as<br />

many flyers I can pile into a<br />

booklet. It's just a fun thing<br />

to do.<br />

Decker: We're actually<br />

going to leave Huntington<br />

Beach and play outside.<br />

Todd: How far is the touring leash going to<br />

be?<br />

Kaa: Right now, I can say Vegas, Arizona,<br />

Northern California. I see us going to<br />

Portland, Seattle, or Texas, but that will<br />

probably be about it. We've also talked<br />

about flying back East and doing a oneweeker.<br />

Trying to do Philadelphia, New<br />

York, or the ultimate goal, a two-weeker in<br />

Europe. On our website, we have people<br />

from Belgium, Berlin, Brussels, and France<br />

saying "We guarantee a sellout if you<br />

come." My last one was from Sweden.<br />

Decker: They don't say it's a six-seat bar...<br />

It's hard when everybody has the forty hour<br />

week and three kids.<br />

Kaa: Fifty hour week.<br />

Todd: So what do you do during the week?<br />

Decker: I'm a construction worker.<br />

Kaa: I do financial and accounting work for<br />

a big restaurant company. Dennis is a postman.<br />

Boz is the general manager of a precision<br />

metal foundry. Cory is a mason in<br />

brick and tile.<br />

Decker: We can get shit built, torn down,<br />

and financed.<br />

Kaa: And we can deliver the mail.<br />

Sean: What type of construction work do<br />

you do?<br />

Decker: I run cranes and concrete pumps.<br />

And before that, I ran fishing boats, when<br />

work got slow.<br />

Todd: Working backwards, on "A World<br />

Apart" (Posh Boy Records, 1980) why are<br />

the guitars taken out of that recording? It<br />

sounds like "tink, tink, tink."<br />

Kaa: Couple things. We were trying to differentiate<br />

ourselves somewhat from all the<br />

other music of that time. It wasn't like we<br />

said, "Let's make this music be short, fast,<br />

and poppy." I think "A World Apart" was a<br />

natural evolution of that because we learned<br />

to play a little bit better. But, you've got to<br />

remember that we worked with Posh Boy.<br />

Decker: Posh Boy has a terrible ear.<br />

Kaa: And David Hines, the guy who engi-<br />

“PUT THE OFFSPRING IN<br />

THERE, TOO. THEY CAME<br />

THROUGH THE SAME DOOR<br />

THE TIME WE WERE START-<br />

ING TO GET BACK UP. AND<br />

AT THAT POINT,<br />

THEY HAD THE TITAN<br />

MISSILE.”<br />

neered it...<br />

Decker: Has even a worse ear.<br />

Kaa: ...we weren't smart enough to know,<br />

to say, "No, this is the way it should be,"<br />

when you're making your second record and<br />

it's the second time you've been in the studio.<br />

When we made "Beach Blvd.," (recorded<br />

July 3rd, 1979) it was the first time we<br />

were in the studio. He mixed the whole<br />

record in one day.<br />

Decker: We got the tape, ran to - I forget<br />

what the music store was in LA - 'cause we<br />

didn't have a tape player in our car. Put it in<br />

a cassette place - an audio store - heard it<br />

come out and we just looked at each other<br />

and went, "That sounds like shit."<br />

Kaa: A big difference in today's world is<br />

digital. When you finish something and<br />

make a DAT or CD of it, it sounds virtually<br />

the same. Something's screwed up if there's<br />

a big difference. In those days, everything<br />

sounded good in the big studio, but by the<br />

time you made a vinyl record, the low end<br />

was missing a lot. None of them had a thick,<br />

big-bottom end. Now you can buy a little<br />

four-track for your house for $500 that you<br />

can record massive stuff on.<br />

Decker: I'd like to get a hold of those tapes,<br />

re-mix some of the songs, and put it out.<br />

There's some really good songs on that<br />

record, but the mix just blows chow.<br />

Sean: Did you write rhythm guitar parts or<br />

any bar chords in those songs, because it<br />

seems like, if you listen to it really close,<br />

you can hear some guitar.<br />

Decker: Right. But it's so<br />

far away.<br />

Kaa: Like the guitarist is<br />

in the other room... I have<br />

a version of "Can't Talk"<br />

that we did on KUCI<br />

radio. That song's just<br />

manic. The ending's of an<br />

undetermined length. It<br />

could go on for twelve<br />

bars or forty. It was just<br />

way more intense. Drak at<br />

Vinyl Solution<br />

(Huntington Beach's premiere<br />

punk rock record<br />

store) would say to me -<br />

this is previous to the last<br />

few records - "You guys<br />

are so great live but your<br />

records never captured<br />

that." I think "Beach<br />

Blvd." did, for the most<br />

part, we went in...<br />

Decker: It was played<br />

live in the studio.<br />

Kaa: In "A World Apart" and "Big Fish<br />

Stories," (Flipside, 1989) neither one of<br />

them were we able to get our live intensity<br />

across in the record. Because when you're in<br />

the studio, I end up taking the time to make<br />

a record, make things that are in the studio<br />

cool, too. It's a different place. But on the<br />

flip side, I don't want to make it weak, diluted,<br />

and crappy. But it's nice - if you want to<br />

put an acoustic guitar in one part, I'm not<br />

going to be afraid to do that. It's okay to be<br />

quiet for eight seconds of one part of one<br />

song.<br />

Brett Gurewitz was the<br />

one - when we recorded the 35

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