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Kaa: I wasn't yearning for that<br />

much more because you're<br />

already surpassing any goals that<br />

you already had.<br />

Todd: Have you guys ever been<br />

courted by a major, if just for tax<br />

relief purposes?<br />

Kaa: Back in the day, a guy<br />

named John Hewlett was a manager<br />

of The Dickies.<br />

Decker: Worked for A + M.<br />

Kaa: Allegedly, he wanted us to<br />

go on tour with The Dickies in<br />

England, 'cause they were having<br />

the "Nights in White Satin" hit. I<br />

took a semester off from school<br />

because I thought that was going<br />

to happen. It never came to<br />

fruition.<br />

Todd: Is there any such thing as<br />

the Crowd's "Revisited" cassette from<br />

1994? It was listed on your website.<br />

Kaa: Carl (their webmaster) took that off.<br />

We recorded a demo for A + M at a place<br />

called Sound Investment in downtown LA.<br />

We never got any real tapes of it. It's really<br />

the lost Crowd album is what it comes<br />

down to. It was the stuff the original lineup<br />

recorded after "Beach Blvd." and before "A<br />

World Apart" that, would have been much<br />

more of what people were looking for.<br />

Todd: Name the Mouseketeer that charted<br />

two slots below you on Rodney on the<br />

ROQ's August, 1980 top twenty list.<br />

Decker: That was whatshername. Annette<br />

Funicello. I forget what the song was.<br />

Dennis: It was from one of<br />

ON “STARDOM”<br />

Kaa: I do financial<br />

and accounting<br />

work for a big<br />

restaurant company.<br />

Dennis is a<br />

postman. Boz is<br />

the general manager<br />

of a precision<br />

metal foundry. Cory<br />

is a mason in brick<br />

and tile.<br />

those "Beach Blanket<br />

Bingo" deals.<br />

Decker: In the Flipside (where the top<br />

twenty was printed), it had a little handdrawn<br />

wave.<br />

Todd: You guys approached punk rock in a<br />

fun and positive way. Where did that come<br />

from? And as funny as it sounds, do you<br />

think that was a liability?<br />

Decker: Oh yeah. That was just our personalities.<br />

How can you live here and surf<br />

every day and be pissed off?<br />

Kaa: That hits the nail on the head. It's<br />

what it all comes down to. Luckily, none of<br />

our parents are divorced. We're living in an<br />

upper middle class beach community. Am I<br />

supposed to be angry at my parents because<br />

my dad worked hard and was a good guy<br />

and because my mom was a housewife<br />

and took care of the kids?<br />

Dennis: [joking] If she was a heroin<br />

addict that beat me, then I would<br />

have made it.<br />

Kaa: We just celebrate the culture<br />

of the beach. "Suzy Is a Surf<br />

Rocker," that's really the concept of<br />

being tormented by the local surf<br />

girls who sit twenty yards down the<br />

beach from you and torment you all<br />

day long...<br />

Decker: Shooting beaver shots.<br />

Kaa: And then tormenting you that<br />

same night at the house parties. Our<br />

themes were based on much more<br />

relationship themes, which a lot of<br />

traditional music was based on<br />

before you had to be political about<br />

things. I write songs about some<br />

social things, but it's usually more from a<br />

personal standpoint.<br />

Todd: I would see that contiguous with The<br />

Buzzcocks.<br />

Dennis: They're all about love songs, basically.<br />

Kaa: "What Do I Get?," "Love You More,"<br />

and, again, I'm not advocating that every<br />

song needs to be happy or "I love you."<br />

Todd: You're being true to the environment<br />

that's pouring into you.<br />

Kaa: You had the guys in Fullerton (like<br />

Social Distortion) getting beat up in high<br />

school and everything. None of us got beat<br />

up.<br />

Decker: Right. The football team would<br />

come to the house parties after the game.<br />

Kaa: A lot of those guys were guys you<br />

grew up with your whole life, so they<br />

weren't dick jocks. They were guys you<br />

knew, who surfed, and who you'd been<br />

going to the beach with for twenty years.<br />

So, when we started punk rock and people<br />

came to our shows and parties, it wasn't just<br />

certain people - "Oh yeah, you've got to<br />

have a shaved head" or "You've got to have<br />

black hair."<br />

Dennis: There wasn't that many of us.<br />

Kaa: Yeah, when you talk about being a<br />

liability, I think a lot of people slam you<br />

that you're soft or pop because you're not<br />

confronting, "Kill, kill, government's ass."<br />

[makes machine gun noises.] You can make<br />

an album of that in an afternoon - of cliché<br />

anti-kill-death. On the other hand, DOA's<br />

"Thirteen Flavors of Doom" record, I listen<br />

to that, and they're almost like happy songs<br />

about the end of the world. If you listen to<br />

our new stuff, we have a song, "When Satan<br />

Smiles"...<br />

Decker: The melody's real happy.<br />

Kaa: But the lyrics are about bad people<br />

doing bad things and making satan happy.<br />

That's sort of the catch phrase in it. In<br />

"Letter Bomb," Jim wrote those lyrics about<br />

a Vietnam vet. It came from this guy in<br />

Dana Point who went crazy and shot a<br />

bunch of people.<br />

Dennis [the mailman]: Postal worker.<br />

Kaa: The whole postal worker goes crazy<br />

thing, but the lyrics really talk about a tormented<br />

person who's got it buried inside -<br />

regardless if they're a postman or not - some<br />

day it's going to blow out. Over time, our<br />

optimism has been lost.<br />

Dennis: With age, we've seen some dark<br />

things. We just still write about them in a<br />

happy way.<br />

Kaa: In "Can Pipe" [hums in a lilting<br />

melody] "I'm smoking crack all night on a<br />

can pipe." It's a happy melody. That's a toetapper.<br />

Decker: "What are those words, dad?"<br />

Kaa: And that came from Jim working 3<br />

AM shifts pumping concrete and watching<br />

the crack addicts.<br />

Sean: Jim, I see that your daughter's a little<br />

bit of a Brittney Spears fan. How does Jim<br />

Kaa of the Crowd go about obtaining a<br />

Brittney album for his daughter?<br />

Kaa: I haven't been forced to buy the<br />

Brittney Spears, but I did buy The<br />

Backstreet Boys one time. I went to<br />

Tower and I found where it was and<br />

what it looked like, and left it there.<br />

And then I went and shopped at Tower<br />

for all my other goods, and right before<br />

I had to buy it, I put it in my stack at<br />

the bottom...<br />

Decker: We can get shit<br />

built, torn down, and<br />

financed.<br />

Dennis: Kind of whistled up to the<br />

register.<br />

Decker: [in checker voice] "Excuse<br />

me, are you sure you want this one?"<br />

Kaa: You know what the really sad sign is?<br />

I actually started to recognize those N'Sync<br />

and Backstreet Boys songs when I hear<br />

them in elevators and stuff. It's been a hard<br />

thing to reconcile. Being a parent, I feel like<br />

I'm going to live through my Limp Bizkit or<br />

Crowd or Bad Religion that my kids will<br />

bring to me, and right now, that happens to<br />

be in the form of Brittney Spears and<br />

N'Sync. It's my own poison I'm having to<br />

swallow.<br />

The Crowd can be contacted through their<br />

website: <br />

Check out The Crowd’s family tree<br />

at <br />

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