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Kaa: I wasn't yearning for that<br />
much more because you're<br />
already surpassing any goals that<br />
you already had.<br />
Todd: Have you guys ever been<br />
courted by a major, if just for tax<br />
relief purposes?<br />
Kaa: Back in the day, a guy<br />
named John Hewlett was a manager<br />
of The Dickies.<br />
Decker: Worked for A + M.<br />
Kaa: Allegedly, he wanted us to<br />
go on tour with The Dickies in<br />
England, 'cause they were having<br />
the "Nights in White Satin" hit. I<br />
took a semester off from school<br />
because I thought that was going<br />
to happen. It never came to<br />
fruition.<br />
Todd: Is there any such thing as<br />
the Crowd's "Revisited" cassette from<br />
1994? It was listed on your website.<br />
Kaa: Carl (their webmaster) took that off.<br />
We recorded a demo for A + M at a place<br />
called Sound Investment in downtown LA.<br />
We never got any real tapes of it. It's really<br />
the lost Crowd album is what it comes<br />
down to. It was the stuff the original lineup<br />
recorded after "Beach Blvd." and before "A<br />
World Apart" that, would have been much<br />
more of what people were looking for.<br />
Todd: Name the Mouseketeer that charted<br />
two slots below you on Rodney on the<br />
ROQ's August, 1980 top twenty list.<br />
Decker: That was whatshername. Annette<br />
Funicello. I forget what the song was.<br />
Dennis: It was from one of<br />
ON “STARDOM”<br />
Kaa: I do financial<br />
and accounting<br />
work for a big<br />
restaurant company.<br />
Dennis is a<br />
postman. Boz is<br />
the general manager<br />
of a precision<br />
metal foundry. Cory<br />
is a mason in brick<br />
and tile.<br />
those "Beach Blanket<br />
Bingo" deals.<br />
Decker: In the Flipside (where the top<br />
twenty was printed), it had a little handdrawn<br />
wave.<br />
Todd: You guys approached punk rock in a<br />
fun and positive way. Where did that come<br />
from? And as funny as it sounds, do you<br />
think that was a liability?<br />
Decker: Oh yeah. That was just our personalities.<br />
How can you live here and surf<br />
every day and be pissed off?<br />
Kaa: That hits the nail on the head. It's<br />
what it all comes down to. Luckily, none of<br />
our parents are divorced. We're living in an<br />
upper middle class beach community. Am I<br />
supposed to be angry at my parents because<br />
my dad worked hard and was a good guy<br />
and because my mom was a housewife<br />
and took care of the kids?<br />
Dennis: [joking] If she was a heroin<br />
addict that beat me, then I would<br />
have made it.<br />
Kaa: We just celebrate the culture<br />
of the beach. "Suzy Is a Surf<br />
Rocker," that's really the concept of<br />
being tormented by the local surf<br />
girls who sit twenty yards down the<br />
beach from you and torment you all<br />
day long...<br />
Decker: Shooting beaver shots.<br />
Kaa: And then tormenting you that<br />
same night at the house parties. Our<br />
themes were based on much more<br />
relationship themes, which a lot of<br />
traditional music was based on<br />
before you had to be political about<br />
things. I write songs about some<br />
social things, but it's usually more from a<br />
personal standpoint.<br />
Todd: I would see that contiguous with The<br />
Buzzcocks.<br />
Dennis: They're all about love songs, basically.<br />
Kaa: "What Do I Get?," "Love You More,"<br />
and, again, I'm not advocating that every<br />
song needs to be happy or "I love you."<br />
Todd: You're being true to the environment<br />
that's pouring into you.<br />
Kaa: You had the guys in Fullerton (like<br />
Social Distortion) getting beat up in high<br />
school and everything. None of us got beat<br />
up.<br />
Decker: Right. The football team would<br />
come to the house parties after the game.<br />
Kaa: A lot of those guys were guys you<br />
grew up with your whole life, so they<br />
weren't dick jocks. They were guys you<br />
knew, who surfed, and who you'd been<br />
going to the beach with for twenty years.<br />
So, when we started punk rock and people<br />
came to our shows and parties, it wasn't just<br />
certain people - "Oh yeah, you've got to<br />
have a shaved head" or "You've got to have<br />
black hair."<br />
Dennis: There wasn't that many of us.<br />
Kaa: Yeah, when you talk about being a<br />
liability, I think a lot of people slam you<br />
that you're soft or pop because you're not<br />
confronting, "Kill, kill, government's ass."<br />
[makes machine gun noises.] You can make<br />
an album of that in an afternoon - of cliché<br />
anti-kill-death. On the other hand, DOA's<br />
"Thirteen Flavors of Doom" record, I listen<br />
to that, and they're almost like happy songs<br />
about the end of the world. If you listen to<br />
our new stuff, we have a song, "When Satan<br />
Smiles"...<br />
Decker: The melody's real happy.<br />
Kaa: But the lyrics are about bad people<br />
doing bad things and making satan happy.<br />
That's sort of the catch phrase in it. In<br />
"Letter Bomb," Jim wrote those lyrics about<br />
a Vietnam vet. It came from this guy in<br />
Dana Point who went crazy and shot a<br />
bunch of people.<br />
Dennis [the mailman]: Postal worker.<br />
Kaa: The whole postal worker goes crazy<br />
thing, but the lyrics really talk about a tormented<br />
person who's got it buried inside -<br />
regardless if they're a postman or not - some<br />
day it's going to blow out. Over time, our<br />
optimism has been lost.<br />
Dennis: With age, we've seen some dark<br />
things. We just still write about them in a<br />
happy way.<br />
Kaa: In "Can Pipe" [hums in a lilting<br />
melody] "I'm smoking crack all night on a<br />
can pipe." It's a happy melody. That's a toetapper.<br />
Decker: "What are those words, dad?"<br />
Kaa: And that came from Jim working 3<br />
AM shifts pumping concrete and watching<br />
the crack addicts.<br />
Sean: Jim, I see that your daughter's a little<br />
bit of a Brittney Spears fan. How does Jim<br />
Kaa of the Crowd go about obtaining a<br />
Brittney album for his daughter?<br />
Kaa: I haven't been forced to buy the<br />
Brittney Spears, but I did buy The<br />
Backstreet Boys one time. I went to<br />
Tower and I found where it was and<br />
what it looked like, and left it there.<br />
And then I went and shopped at Tower<br />
for all my other goods, and right before<br />
I had to buy it, I put it in my stack at<br />
the bottom...<br />
Decker: We can get shit<br />
built, torn down, and<br />
financed.<br />
Dennis: Kind of whistled up to the<br />
register.<br />
Decker: [in checker voice] "Excuse<br />
me, are you sure you want this one?"<br />
Kaa: You know what the really sad sign is?<br />
I actually started to recognize those N'Sync<br />
and Backstreet Boys songs when I hear<br />
them in elevators and stuff. It's been a hard<br />
thing to reconcile. Being a parent, I feel like<br />
I'm going to live through my Limp Bizkit or<br />
Crowd or Bad Religion that my kids will<br />
bring to me, and right now, that happens to<br />
be in the form of Brittney Spears and<br />
N'Sync. It's my own poison I'm having to<br />
swallow.<br />
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