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Farming in the Uplands - ARCHIVE: Defra

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Ev 52 Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee: Evidence<br />

17 November 2010 James Paice MP, Jeremy Eppel and Dan Osgood<br />

we’ve been through <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> lowlands, particularly <strong>in</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> eastern half of <strong>the</strong> country, mak<strong>in</strong>g farmers bigger<br />

and <strong>the</strong>refore more viable. Partly it will be lack of<br />

profit, over successive years, to <strong>in</strong>vest <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> future.<br />

One obvious area is w<strong>in</strong>ter hous<strong>in</strong>g. A lot of upland<br />

farmers still leave <strong>the</strong>ir stock out all w<strong>in</strong>ter, which is<br />

extensive but can be labour-<strong>in</strong>tensive, because of <strong>the</strong><br />

time taken to check <strong>the</strong>m, etc. It also often has<br />

environmental consequences of poach<strong>in</strong>g etc, and it<br />

probably means you have to keep <strong>the</strong> more robust,<br />

hardy breeds of stock, whereas if you were w<strong>in</strong>ter<br />

hous<strong>in</strong>g you might be able to have slightly more<br />

economically efficient breeds of stock. I don’t want to<br />

sit here and pretend I have a solution for everybody;<br />

I haven’t. However, w<strong>in</strong>ter hous<strong>in</strong>g should be<br />

someth<strong>in</strong>g that, as long as it’s part of a sensible<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess plan, <strong>in</strong> my view, should be part of <strong>the</strong> Rural<br />

Development Programme, <strong>the</strong> ability for farmers to<br />

access it for that. I’m not say<strong>in</strong>g everybody would get<br />

it, but <strong>in</strong> pr<strong>in</strong>ciple it should be suitable, and that<br />

comes back to <strong>the</strong> earlier discussion about <strong>the</strong><br />

direction <strong>in</strong> which we should be go<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

Q234 Chair: F<strong>in</strong>ally, look<strong>in</strong>g at a susta<strong>in</strong>able future<br />

for <strong>the</strong> uplands, what place do you th<strong>in</strong>k farm<strong>in</strong>g will<br />

play <strong>in</strong> that mix, and do you th<strong>in</strong>k we have <strong>the</strong> balance<br />

right between agri-environmental measures and<br />

production?<br />

Mr Paice: I’m very optimistic about farm<strong>in</strong>g’s future,<br />

as a general <strong>in</strong>dustry but, as I implied a few m<strong>in</strong>utes<br />

ago, I do th<strong>in</strong>k it has to see itself—and I’m afraid this<br />

is a criticism of much of <strong>the</strong> farm<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>dustry—as part<br />

of <strong>the</strong> food supply cha<strong>in</strong>. If it can be seen like that, it<br />

will have much more economic clout politically. I<br />

don’t just mean here or partisanly, but generally. I do<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k, if you look at <strong>the</strong> global prospects for food over<br />

<strong>the</strong> next few decades, <strong>the</strong>re is potential for great<br />

prosperity. The uplands have a right and <strong>the</strong><br />

opportunity to share <strong>in</strong> that <strong>in</strong>creased prosperity, but<br />

<strong>the</strong>y have unique challenges and we’ve talked about<br />

<strong>the</strong>m this afternoon. I th<strong>in</strong>k <strong>the</strong>re is a good future for<br />

farm<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> uplands. I also th<strong>in</strong>k it’s critical for <strong>the</strong><br />

future of <strong>the</strong> uplands because, as we touched on<br />

earlier about stock<strong>in</strong>g rates and th<strong>in</strong>gs like that, <strong>the</strong><br />

very beauty of <strong>the</strong> uplands, which attracts <strong>the</strong> tourism<br />

that Mr Parish was talk<strong>in</strong>g about, which is of greater<br />

economic value to <strong>the</strong> uplands than farm<strong>in</strong>g is, is <strong>the</strong>re<br />

because of farmers. Forgive me, I’ve said this a<br />

number of times. All <strong>the</strong> dry stone walls that people<br />

go up to see because of <strong>the</strong> picturesque view, <strong>the</strong>y<br />

weren’t put up with an Arts Council grant; <strong>the</strong>y were<br />

put up to keep sheep <strong>in</strong>. It is because of farm<strong>in</strong>g that<br />

we have that landscape and, <strong>the</strong>refore, it is essential if<br />

we’re go<strong>in</strong>g to ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong> that landscape, enhance and<br />

improve it, that farm<strong>in</strong>g is part and parcel of it.<br />

Q235 Chair: Just on Mr Parish’s po<strong>in</strong>t and Mr<br />

Blenk<strong>in</strong>sop’s, on actually work<strong>in</strong>g with tourism and<br />

diversification to br<strong>in</strong>g money from <strong>the</strong> tourism<br />

<strong>in</strong>dustry <strong>in</strong>to <strong>the</strong> upland economy, do you th<strong>in</strong>k <strong>the</strong>re’s<br />

more we could do to tap <strong>in</strong>to that?<br />

Mr Paice: I’m sure <strong>the</strong>re’s always more we can do to<br />

tap <strong>in</strong>to it, but that’s really a role for DCMS and <strong>the</strong><br />

tourism sector. I know, aga<strong>in</strong> before <strong>the</strong> election, when<br />

I was talk<strong>in</strong>g to my <strong>the</strong>n colleagues <strong>in</strong> that team, <strong>the</strong>y<br />

were very enthused by <strong>the</strong> need to <strong>in</strong>crease rural<br />

tourism. That is with<strong>in</strong> scope of <strong>the</strong> RDPE, all of<br />

which feeds back to my answer earlier about <strong>the</strong> need<br />

to make sure we have as much resources <strong>in</strong> that<br />

programme as possible.<br />

Chair: When you do visit, we can recommend some<br />

very good B&Bs. M<strong>in</strong>ister, can we thank you most<br />

formally for be<strong>in</strong>g so patient, so k<strong>in</strong>d and thorough <strong>in</strong><br />

answer<strong>in</strong>g our questions as part of this <strong>in</strong>quiry? To<br />

you and your team, thank you very much <strong>in</strong>deed.<br />

Mr Paice: Thank you very much <strong>in</strong>deed.<br />

EMBARGOED ADVANCE COPY:<br />

Not to be published <strong>in</strong> full, or part, <strong>in</strong> any form before<br />

00.01am GMT Wednesday 16 February 2011

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