The Timaeus of Plato

E] TIMAIO2. 59
be able to show a due measure of mildness or sternness to friend
or foe.
Timaeus,
Yes.
Sokrates. And what of their training ? were they not to
have been trained in gymnastic and music and all studies which
are connected with these ?
Timaeus.
Sokrates.
Just so.
And those who had undergone this discipline, we
said, must not consider that they have any private property in
gold or silver or anything else whatsoever, but as auxiliaries
in return
drawing from those whom they preserved so much pay
for their protection as was sufficient for temperate men, they
were to spend it in common and pass their lives in company
with one another, devoting themselves perpetually to the pursuit
of virtue and relieved from all other occupations.
Timaeus. That also is the way it was put.
Sokrates. Moreover with regard to women we observed that
their natures must be brought into harmonious similarity with
those of men, and that the same employments must be assigned
to them all both in war and in their general mode of life.
Timaeus.
Yes, that was what we said.
Sokrates. And what were our rules concerning the procreation
of children ? This, I think, is easy of recollection
because of the novelty of our scheme. We ordained that the
rights of marriage and of children should be common to all, to
the end that no one should ever know his own offspring, but
that each should look upon all as his kindred, regarding as
sisters and brethren all
such as were between suitable limits of
age, and those of the former and previous generations as parents
and grandparents, and those after them as children and children's
children.
Timaeus. Yes, it is very easy to remember this too as you
describe it.
Sokrates. Next with a view to securing immediately the
utmost possible perfection in their natures, do we not remember
that it was incumbent on the rulers of both sexes to make
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nominative.