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Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project

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that has driven civilization to exist in a place like this. So it is in many ways our<br />

central organizing principle is how to handle our water supply. It continues to be<br />

sort of the most broadly held social consensus we have is, we need more water<br />

than we have, we’ll use all we can get and we’re going to keep it away from the<br />

enemy. It’s a tribal commodity. We define our tribe as the people <strong>with</strong> whom we<br />

share our water and that means the people of <strong>Arizona</strong> in this case. There is<br />

some inter-tribe squabbling of course. But <strong>Arizona</strong> is our tribe and that’s who we<br />

share water <strong>with</strong>. The enemy is California or Nevada, who are trying to take our<br />

water from us. So we are always thinking about that so it’s remarkable, whatever<br />

your word was, but it’s not surprising. It’s a historical imperative.<br />

Q. One of the things we’ve been talking about it the 1922 Colorado River Compact<br />

and that was . . .<br />

A. Well, we thought that it was a plot. We didn’t like it. We didn’t ratify it for years<br />

and years. We were the one hold-out state that thought we’d gotten screwed in<br />

the Colorado River Compact because, I mean as I’ve understood the story, I<br />

don’t know if this is right or not, I was not around, my father would have been<br />

around but I [don’t] know if he knew anything about it or not. We initially began<br />

<strong>with</strong> the position that we should get the same amount of water that California was<br />

getting in the Compact and that wasn’t how it worked. So we thought, we and<br />

California should split it equally. Our argument was the Colorado River runs<br />

through <strong>Arizona</strong> for four hundred miles before it ever forms a common border<br />

<strong>with</strong> California. There are no tributaries flowing out of California into the<br />

<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Grady</strong> <strong>Gammage</strong><br />

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