Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project
Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project
Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project
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it’s a bank. You don’t know when you do a <strong>with</strong>drawal that it’s the money you put<br />
in the bank. In fact I guarantee you it’s not. It’s the same mechanism. It’s a<br />
fungible commodity and so you can transact it this way.<br />
The other thing that is another brilliant scheme—it was actually cooked up, I think<br />
mostly by CAP and SRP before the Water Bank—is indirect recharge or in lieu<br />
recharge. This goes back to my story about how we thought the farmers were<br />
going to buy all this water but there was no way to make that work. Well, we<br />
needed to come up <strong>with</strong>, and this was happening right at the time I was first<br />
coming on to the Board and then becoming President, we needed to come up<br />
<strong>with</strong> a way to use that water that the farmers could no longer afford to pay for.<br />
So we essentially went to them and said look you’ve got to give us that back and<br />
they didn’t want to and then we had a bunch of lawsuits about that. Some of<br />
them read the “take or pay” obligation differently and so on. Ultimately it was all<br />
going to get resolved. But one of the things we wanted to do then was to try to<br />
get that water away from California. The farmers were not going to be able to<br />
buy it. We didn’t want it to go to California and we frankly needed the income<br />
from selling that to the farmers, but they didn’t have enough money to pay for it<br />
because the cost was so much higher. They had to pay their allocable share of<br />
building the canal <strong>with</strong>out interest and the CAP needed that income. So what<br />
happened was, we did a target pricing scheme, where we sold that water to<br />
farmers below the cost of getting here. I’ve used the analogy, I remember as a<br />
kid watching George Burns and Gracie Allen. Gracie came home and said “Oh<br />
<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Grady</strong> <strong>Gammage</strong><br />
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