Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project

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Q. Growing up on the campus must have been interesting. A. Yes, it was fun. It was fun being the president’s kid, the extremely spoiled child of older parents. I was indulged and I reveled in it yeah, (laughing). Q. So you say you went to school here on campus. How did that work A. There was a grade school. It was the Campus Laboratory School. It was called the Ira D. Payne Training School and then called the Campus Laboratory School. That is where the music building is now. There were only twenty-eight kids in each class. It went from nursery school all the way through eighth grade. I went the whole way through there with basically, some people came and went, but pretty much the same kids. The teachers were all also education professors so we had older, much more experienced teachers than would have been typical. Then all the students who were going through teacher training were rotated in and out of the classroom. And every new gimmick in American education got tried out on us. If there was a new desk, if there was a new textbook, if there was a new way of teaching math, if there was a new phonics, whatever it was, it got tried out on us. If you were a smart kid it was wonderful. If on the other hand you were a little slower, you didn’t learn to read real well and stuff. I had some friends who really struggled with being the guinea pigs for every new educational gimmick. Q. You were fine with it Interview with Grady Gammage Page 4 of 91
A. Yes, I liked it. It worked really well for me. It was great and then I went to Tempe High and then I went away to college and law school, as I said earlier. Q. Being you know, the campus child sort of, I guess you had to be a good student A. Yes and that was part of why I wanted to go away and just be an anonymous kid instead of being, oh, that’s the president’s kid, kind of stuff. I did feel in a bit of fishbowl. Q. And you were an only child A. Yes. Q. What was Tempe High like when you went there A. When I started it was the only high school in Tempe. McClintock opened part way through the time I was at Tempe. So it was a big high school, everybody went there. It was a pretty broad cross-section demographically, ethnically and otherwise. I had a good experience there. You know I was a geeky, a geeky smart kid. I was not a jock. It worked fine for me. I did well. I was class president my last two years. I wasn’t real social, but I was funny. Being funny can get you a long way in life, I have found. It worked well. It got me through high school. Q. Did you know what you wanted to do when you got out of high school Interview with Grady Gammage Page 5 of 91
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