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Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project

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ationing water in Phoenix. I said, “You know we cut back on the farming.” We<br />

told the farmers they had to live <strong>with</strong> thirty percent less water in the last couple of<br />

years and we moved that water over to urban populations and it works fine. It’s<br />

relatively easy not to plant crops sometimes. But if all that water migrates to be<br />

urban water you lose that flexibility, that management flexibility over time.<br />

Q. You mentioned the Gila River but not Fort McDowell and Salt River in Maricopa<br />

County.<br />

A. Right I was just talking about Pinal, that’s why. They’re not as big either in terms<br />

of what they intend to farm and they didn’t get as much water in the CAP water<br />

settlements. Did we talk about the Indian water settlements<br />

Q. No, we didn’t and I want to move on to that. Did you ever think the Indians would<br />

get so much water<br />

A. No, I didn’t. Again when I got on the CAP Board I really didn’t know much about<br />

the Indian water rights claims. When I was President of the Board I became a<br />

real champion of trying to use CAP water to settle those claims even over very<br />

heated opposition from some of my board members. George Campbell, rest his<br />

soul was a great board member and a dear friend of mine but was just dead set<br />

against the Indian settlements that we put into place right at the end of my time<br />

on the CAP Board. It was a complicated issue that a lot of people had a hard<br />

time understanding and I think a lot of people had the feeling as these<br />

settlements got written that the CAP Board was deciding whether or not the<br />

<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Grady</strong> <strong>Gammage</strong><br />

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