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Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project

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I tell people when I got on the CAP Board, I’m a city boy. I don’t have any<br />

particular farming background or affinity at all. I grew up in Tempe and Metro<br />

Phoenix and primarily I represent developers, so urbanization is how I make a<br />

living. When I ended up on the CAP Board I assumed that agriculture would<br />

whither and die in <strong>Arizona</strong>. In fact, I was even inclined to think that agriculture<br />

had never made sense in <strong>Arizona</strong> anyway. Why are we growing crops in a place<br />

where it rains five inches a year I changed my mind in the time on the CAP<br />

Board. For a couple of reasons it seems to me there is some real benefit for<br />

preserving agricultural in central <strong>Arizona</strong>. One reason is the heat island effect. It<br />

mitigates this heat island effect where the average night time temperatures go up<br />

by ten degrees a decade or so and irrigated farming brings it back down a little<br />

bit. A second reason is it’s sort of historically important. It’s the only reason<br />

people live here. This is not a probable place for a lot of people to live and<br />

they’re here because of farming. But the most important reason I think is a<br />

water management reason and that is in times of drought you can take water<br />

back from the farmers and deliver it to people in their houses. It’s a safety valve.<br />

You can’t do that when people are using the water at their houses. And so Los<br />

Angeles which doesn’t have any agriculture left, San Diego, Las Vegas which<br />

never had much agricultural, have in fact been much worse hit by the drought<br />

over the last ten years than Phoenix has. People are shocked when I tell them<br />

that we’ve never had to ration water in Phoenix in this drought. I was <strong>with</strong> a<br />

woman from Fort Worth last week who just could not believe that we weren’t<br />

<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Grady</strong> <strong>Gammage</strong><br />

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