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Interview with Grady Gammage - Central Arizona Project

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CAP funded. Babbitt and Cecil Andrus who was then Secretary of Interior<br />

seemed to have engineered a threat by Interior [against] <strong>Arizona</strong>—when Babbitt<br />

was Governor, before he was Secretary—that [was] the threat from the outside<br />

you needed to get everybody in <strong>Arizona</strong> to cut a deal. So we cut a deal to pass<br />

the Groundwater Management Act and essentially its consequence for the first,<br />

about twenty years of its life, was to force development to be hooked up to the<br />

pipes. Even before the Groundwater Management Act it was hard in <strong>Arizona</strong> to<br />

go outside of the city limits and sink a well and live in sort of splendid isolation<br />

that we think of as being life in the West. One of the ironies of life in the West is<br />

you really can’t be a rugged individualist. You have to get along <strong>with</strong> your<br />

neighbors well enough to share a water system. So you couldn’t really go out<br />

and dig these wells just whereever you wanted to anyway, but after the<br />

Groundwater Management Act passed you couldn’t legally do that. You had to<br />

have a hundred year assured supply and it couldn’t be a hundred years worth of<br />

groundwater. You had to be hooked up to a renewable supply, SRP or CAP<br />

being a primary renewable supply. That had an impact as we grew and boomed<br />

in the last part of the twentieth century of pushing our cities closer together.<br />

Water has always been kind of a binding agent. It’s been something that drove<br />

the cities in <strong>Arizona</strong> to be higher density, to grow in a more orderly fashion. Not<br />

so much leapfrogging as you see in parts of the country where you can be on<br />

your own water supply. The reason, when you fly into Phoenix you hit that hard<br />

edge of development and then there is either desert or farmland outside of it, is<br />

what you’re seeing is where the pipes end. That’s where the pipe extensions<br />

<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Grady</strong> <strong>Gammage</strong><br />

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