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Building resilience<br />

Q<br />

What are the prospects for strong,<br />

sustainable balanced growth with the<br />

economies of the United States, Europe,<br />

Japan and Canada all growing<br />

steadily again?<br />

A For the first time in quite a while, we<br />

have synchronised growth among the G7<br />

countries, which should enable a more<br />

stabilising effect on the global economy.<br />

It’s not as strong as it could be, it is not<br />

as strong as it should be, but it is strong,<br />

sustainable steady growth and threequarters<br />

per cent more than last year. I<br />

would bet that the G7 will be at least a full<br />

percentage point higher than last year.<br />

Q Is this time to move towards monetary<br />

tightening and fiscal consolidation to<br />

control escalating deficits and debt?<br />

A It is beyond time. All the countries<br />

have passed up opportunities. They must<br />

undertake actions to relax on the regulatory<br />

and structural impediment sides, which<br />

would provide them room to tighten their<br />

fiscal and monetary policies.<br />

Q What contributions and risks to global<br />

growth come from the big emerging<br />

economies?<br />

A The biggest risk that both China and<br />

India provide is a stop-go pattern of<br />

growth – not negative or zero growth,<br />

but getting off to a slow start. Both face<br />

strong challenges domestically in terms of<br />

regulatory freedom, market competition<br />

and the ability of firms to acquire money<br />

based on a profit outlook rather than a<br />

state-controlled distribution sector.<br />

Q What structural reforms are needed to<br />

revive productivity, especially given ageing<br />

populations and the digital revolution?<br />

A Labour market reforms top the list. In<br />

the United States, labour market reforms<br />

are needed as well as regulatory reform<br />

from the central government. In Europe,<br />

Leaders must commit to<br />

the regulatory structural<br />

reforms that will allow<br />

their workers a chance to<br />

earn a better wage<br />

labour markets should be the numberone<br />

priority because of rigidities in wage<br />

flexibility, job change flexibility and<br />

mobility among countries.<br />

France’s Emmanuel Macron is taking<br />

an interesting approach but the details<br />

so far are lacking, so we are unable to<br />

judge whether it will get through the<br />

legislature, what the popular reaction will<br />

be and how detailed the reforms will be.<br />

In the United Kingdom, uncertainties<br />

surrounding Brexit were large before<br />

the recent election. I don’t think the<br />

European Union will be any more flexible<br />

than it would have been before the<br />

election. France and <strong>Germany</strong> still want<br />

to extract a high penalty from the UK.<br />

Stock markets in continental Europe<br />

have experienced weaknesses that<br />

suggests those markets are more worried<br />

about that penalty than they are about<br />

the UK’s departure.<br />

Q Do you expect US President Donald<br />

Trump to come together with his colleagues<br />

at <strong>Hamburg</strong> to produce a credible action<br />

plan for growth that includes the standard<br />

language about open markets?<br />

A That’s a very interesting question,<br />

and very difficult to answer. So long<br />

as the discussions focus on regulatory<br />

reform and freeing domestic economies,<br />

Trump will be a strong supporter. To the<br />

extent the leaders talk about bilateral<br />

trade, he will be a strong supporter. He<br />

seems to be exhibiting a continued strong<br />

uncomfortableness with multilateral<br />

trade. To the extent that the communiqué<br />

looks towards a trans-Pacific or<br />

multilateral trading approach, he will not<br />

be supportive.<br />

Q How can the <strong>G20</strong> leaders boost<br />

growth and respond to their publics’<br />

dissatisfaction?<br />

A There is increasing discomfort<br />

with globalisation. We have not done<br />

a good job selling the benefits to our<br />

populations. There’s an imbalance<br />

between validating and affirming the<br />

gross benefits and what people see as the<br />

short- and medium-term costs. Leaders<br />

need to be cautious in how they talk<br />

about globalisation. They need to sell it<br />

in terms of what it means to workers. We<br />

haven’t focused on that.<br />

Also, leaders must commit themselves<br />

to the regulatory structural reforms that<br />

will allow their workers a chance to earn<br />

a better wage and move to jobs where<br />

they have growth opportunities instead<br />

of being stuck in ageing industries. It<br />

is interesting to see Trump talk about<br />

apprenticeship training, drawing on the<br />

German model. Some of us have talked<br />

about this for a long time. Not everyone<br />

should go to college. There are lots of<br />

skilled parts of the labour market that<br />

provide wonderful opportunities for<br />

long-term employment growth and good<br />

income. <strong>G20</strong> leaders could also talk about<br />

labour market training at the entry level<br />

– we are not good at retraining senior<br />

middle-aged workers for new fields. But<br />

we need to do a better job of training<br />

high school and junior college leavers so<br />

they have usable skills for today’s labour<br />

market to find good-paying jobs. <strong>G20</strong><br />

48 <strong>G20</strong> <strong>Germany</strong>: The <strong>Hamburg</strong> Summit • July <strong>2017</strong> G7<strong>G20</strong>.com

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