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INDIE INFLUENCERS<br />
VERY VALIDATING<br />
“While Zeitgeist<br />
Films has gotten<br />
some nice attention<br />
over the years in<br />
the press and anniversary<br />
retrospectives,<br />
including one<br />
at MoMA for our<br />
20th anniversary,<br />
we, as co-founders<br />
and co-presidents,<br />
personally have<br />
really not received<br />
this type of recognition.<br />
It feels<br />
very validating and<br />
deserved—to celebrate<br />
our passing<br />
a true endurance<br />
test of staying<br />
the course in this<br />
business for over<br />
31 years.”<br />
at the Bleecker Street Cinema in New York, which<br />
opened my eyes to every sort of film. I met a group<br />
of cinephiles, most of whom worked at the Bleecker<br />
and some of whom are in significant positions in<br />
the industry now. After the Bleecker (and its sister<br />
theater, the Carnegie Hall Cinema, both out of<br />
business) I moved to the West Coast and worked in<br />
the San Francisco office of Landmark Theatres with<br />
Gary Meyer and Jan Klingelhofer. If there were any<br />
holes still to be filled in my film knowledge (and<br />
there were plenty) Gary and Jan did their best to<br />
fill them, and I felt that Landmark was the best<br />
film school I ever could have attended. After a few<br />
years I returned to New York and met a person who<br />
was going to be very important to me, Don Krim<br />
at Kino, who Dennis Doros so movingly evoked<br />
last year. I didn’t work for Don but I did meet him<br />
when I first came to New York, after I had applied<br />
to and not heard from dozens of distribution<br />
companies, and he encouraged me and remained<br />
a fast friend until he died far too young in 2011.<br />
Another person who was a huge influence on me<br />
was Fran Spielman, with whom I worked for three<br />
years as her assistant booker at First Run Features.<br />
Fran was a character, to say the least. I can still hear<br />
her froggy voice, her cigarette dangling (she stopped<br />
smoking eventually); and her deal-making prowess<br />
and complete and utter honesty were an inspiration<br />
to me. I left First Run in 1987, and Emily and I<br />
started Zeitgeist in 1988.<br />
How did you meet each other, and what<br />
was behind the decision to create Zeitgeist in<br />
1988?<br />
Emily & Nancy: We met each other through<br />
our jobs in the late-ish 1980s and we got to be<br />
closer friends when we attended the Telluride Film<br />
Festival together in 1987. We had been working<br />
as an independent film booker (Emily) and<br />
independently working with art houses and media<br />
centers on their programming (Nancy) and it just<br />
so happened that someone offered some office<br />
space in Jersey City which we could share. We<br />
went to visit the space, which we didn’t take, but<br />
over lunch in Jersey City we ended up deciding<br />
to start a distribution company together. We are<br />
both very independent people and chafed against<br />
working for others, so that was the first catalyst for<br />
wanting to be on our own. We also felt that at the<br />
time, in 1988, most independent films were not<br />
being served particularly well, that there were not<br />
many companies that could take a limited number<br />
of films and give laser-like attention to creating<br />
the best materials, getting the best playdates, and<br />
working closely with the filmmakers for their and<br />
our mutual satisfaction. We had relationships<br />
with a few filmmakers we thought were brilliant<br />
and wanted to take a very hands-on approach to<br />
releasing their movies. We each pooled the lowest<br />
five-figure amount you can imagine and through<br />
a friend found a tiny office in a Village apartment<br />
house. Another friend custom made us a desk that<br />
had a hole on the side to fit around the contour of<br />
the steam pipe along the wall. We sat across that<br />
desk from each other and started distributing a<br />
film from Tony Buba called Lightning over Braddock.<br />
Zeitgeist Films was born.<br />
What were the lessons you took from those<br />
early years in the business as you were launching<br />
Zeitgeist?<br />
Emily & Nancy: We decided from the<br />
beginning to only take five or six films a year, so<br />
we could really give care and attention to each<br />
project and filmmaker. We were always scrupulously<br />
honest and developed a reputation that<br />
has certainly sustained us over 31 years in a very<br />
tough business. Because we never had huge financial<br />
resources, in fact most of our first films were<br />
“service deals,” we had to be very creative and<br />
economical with our campaigns and we learned<br />
to spend appropriately. We tried very hard not to<br />
lose money on a film, which is really another way<br />
of saying “don’t overpay and don’t overspend.”<br />
We also never took a film we didn’t love in<br />
some way. This of course led us to sometimes lose<br />
a film that could have made us money, although<br />
who could really know how things would pan out?<br />
But it helped us to keep our eye on what really<br />
mattered, working with filmmakers and projects<br />
we selected, releasing films that meant something<br />
to us. If there is any secret sauce to how we ran<br />
our business, this is probably a prime ingredient.<br />
What have been your most notable professional<br />
highlights at Zeitgeist?<br />
Emily & Nancy: The most notable of many<br />
highlights was our Best Foreign Language Film<br />
Academy Award for Nowhere in Africa in 2003.<br />
That wonderful movie went on to make $6 million<br />
at the box office (the highest-grossing foreign<br />
film that year). We had another great success<br />
with the Canadian documentary The Corporation,<br />
which grossed $2 million in the U.S. In 2010 we<br />
released Bill Cunningham New York and broke<br />
some house records at Film Forum for opening<br />
weekend. That film went on to make $1.5 million.<br />
There are many other notable highlights that in-<br />
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