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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`ocnebas~ opoziciaze meti reputaciuliqarTuli politikuri elita 16vano pavliaSvilimarts, anu TariRs, roca briu-595 48 35 85selSi saqarTvelo-evrokavSirisasocirebis sabWos sxdoma undagamarTuliyo, ise eloda, rogorc bavSvi elodeba xolmeTovlis papasa da saaxalwlo saCuqrebs, magram muxran maWa-varianis perifraziT rom vTqvaT, saqarTvelos premierma racSeitana, isev is gamoitana im „saxelganTqmuli briuselidan”,anu opoziciis imedi, pirdapir Tu iribad, gacruvda. yovelSemTxvevaSi, gavlenianma evropelma personebma Riad ganacxa-des, euTo-s daskvniT, 31 oqtombris arCevnebi ar gayalbebu-la da verc imas gadavwyvetT, saqarTveloSi vadamdeliarCevnebi unda dainiSnos Tu arao. erTaderTi, razedac evro-paSi „ocnebas” yuri auwies, is iyo, rom usafrTxoebis poli-tikis sakiTxebSi evrokavSiris umaRlesma warmomadgenelma,Jozef borelma, RaribaSvils uTxra, mmarTvel partias gan-sakuTrebuli pasuxismgebloba akisria, rom politikurspeqtrTan samomavlod SeTanxmebas miaRwioso.595 48 35 85 valeri gelbaxiani:„gasuli wlis bolo saparlamentoarCevnebis SemdegevrokavSiri gamudmebiT imeorebda,rom yvela politikurimoTamaSe erT platformazeunda moeqces da arsebul politikursituaciaSi unda moaxerxosurTierToba... Cven parlamentisgverdis avliT vermovaxdenT qveyanaSi pluralizmisdamkvidrebas. yvela politikurpartias, yvela moTamaSessaqarTveloSi ufro far-Tod unda esmodes, ra SedegebiSeiZleba moitanos aman dayvelas vTxovT, rom saqarTvelosada qarTveli xalxis interesebipirvel adgilze daayenosda kompromisze wavides.es momenti da es dro aris gadamwyveti.saqarTvelos moqalaqeebsunda hyavdeT warmomadgenlebixelisuflebaSi, romlebicgaaxmovaneben mis interesebsevrokavSirSi da CvencsaukeTeso interesebiT vmoqmedebT”,_ ganacxada borelmaerTobliv preskonferenciaze.mokled, iseTi piri uCans,rom „kreba mxiaruli darCeba”,anu opozicia parlamentSiSeva, Tumca valeri gelbaxiani„qronika+~-sTan ambobs, romdiplomatiuri ena gansxvavebulia,rac imas niSnavs, rom sajarodsxva gancxadebebi keTdeba,kuluarebSi ki sxvarameze saubroben.ra xdeba kuluarebSi damouwyves Tu ara provokacia„Tavisufali saqarTvelos”Tavmjdomaris yofil moadg-ile gogi wulaias, romelicZaladobis braldebiT ramden-ime dRis win daakaves? _ amkiTxvebiT valeri gelbaxiansmivmarTeT, romelic wulaiasinteresebs icavs._ batono valeri, simarTlegiTxraT, ver gavige, an opoziciasra unda, an _ xelisufle-bas. Tqven gaigeT?_ ra vici, rogor giTxraT._ rogorc gindaT, ise miTx-ariT._ saerTod, diplomatiasTavisi etiketi da CarCo-formatiaqvs._ es ra SuaSia?_ Cven gvCvevia, rom yvelaTemaze alalmarTlad, Riad dagulwrfelad vsaubrobT, magramdiplomatiuri politikacota sxvanairia, anu raRac etiketisafexur-safexuraa daculi.ai, magaliTad, bolo dReebSisul imaze vfiqrob, racbriuselSi gacxadda, anu amisTqma sxvagvarad SeiZlebodaTu ara._ ar SeiZleboda?_ evrokavSiris warmomadgenelipirdapir ver ityoda,rom 31 oqtombris arCevnebigayalbda._ es arc uTqvams. piriqiT,evrokavSiris maRali rangiswarmomadgenelma ganacxada,euTos cnobiT, arCevnebi argayalbebulao._ diax... mokled, CarCo-etiketsar gascda, Tumca sxva sakiTxia,kulisebSi ras saubroben._ da kulisebSi ra xdeba?_ rogori gacxadebuli realobacunda iyos, arCevnebi argayalbebulao, faqtia: saxezekrizisia, romelic unda dai-Zlios, anu Sedegi sxvanairia,gacxadebuli pozicia ki _ sxvanairi.amitom Tu evropa fiqrobs,rom saqarTvelo dasavleTisinteresebidan ar undagamovides da evroatlantikurikursi SeinarCunos, ruseTiase ar fiqrobs. warmoidgineT,aqeT ori gandgomili da araRiarebuliavtonomia, iqiT TurqeTi,somxeTi, azerbaijani,anu es sivrce Caketili aqvs daerTaderTi saqarTvelo darCa,romelsac aiZuleben, rom gaerTianebismeeqvse wevri gaxdes._ im gaerTianebas gulisxmobT,romlis Seqmnis iniciativiTac,Tavis droze, Turqe-Ti gamovida?_ diax. Tu am nabijs gadadgams,saqarTvelo evropasa daaSS-sTan integraciul kav-Sirze veRarasodes wava._ amas ratom ambobT?_ aseT SemTxvevaSi, dasavleTTanintegracia azrs sruliadkargavs, anu aSS kontrolsmxolod kavkasiaze ki ara,mTel aRmosavleTze dakargavs.garda amisa, israelsac udidesiproblemebi Seeqmneba, romelsaciransa da TurqeTTan isedacgarTulebuli viTarebaaqvs. mokled, Tu es eqvseuli`biZinas fulsra gamoulevs darogorc Cans,lobistebSi didifuli ixarjeba!~Seiqmneba, israeli absoluturaddaucveli darCeba. yvelaferaqedan gamomdinare kiis msoflio wesrigi mTlianaddairRveva, romelsac aSS axorcielebs._ e. i., batono valeri,iziarebT mosazrebas, romsaqarTveloSi molaparakebaxelisuflebasa da opoziciaski ara, realurad, dasavleTsada ruseTs Soris midis?_ iciT, rogor aris?_ rogor?_ molaparakebebi ki ar midis,aramed, orive mxare Tavisascdilobs._ ufro konkretulad?_ 10-12 dRis win saqarTvelossagareo saqmeTa ministristambolsa Tu ankaraSi daibares,sadac pirdapir uTxres,am gaerTianebis meeqvse wevrisaqarTvelo unda iyoso.warmoidgineT, 21 saukunisganmavlobaSi ar momxdara, romori islamuri dapirispirebulibanaki erT koaliciaSi yofiliyo.axla ki iranisa da TurqeTisinteresebi erTmaneTsruseTis SuamavlobiT daemTxva._ es ultimatumi TurqeTSivizitad myof zalkaliansRiad ar wauyenes, ara?_ ara, Riad ar uTqvamT.ise, rom icodeT, zalkalianmaikiTxa, Tu es Temaa salaparako,maSin afxazeTisa da e.w. samxreT oseTis sakiTxirogor iqnebao?_ ra upasuxes?_ Tu am eqvseulSi ar Semova,maSin saqarTvelos nacvladafxazeTi da e. w. samxreT ose-Ti damoukidebeli saxelmwifoebisstatusiT Semovlen, amitomam Temaze saubari ar iyoso._ batono valeri, es infor-macia saidan gaqvT?_ sagareo wyaroebidan vici,rom aseTi saubari namdviladiyo._ axla, praqtikulad, skandalurinformacias asa-jaroebT..._ skandalurs arafers vam-`10-12 dRis win saqarTvelos sagareo saqmeTaministri stambolsa Tu ankaraSi daibares,sadac pirdapir uTxres, am gaerTianebis meeqvsewevri saqarTvelo unda iyoso. warmoidgineT,21 saukunis ganmavlobaSi ar momxdara, romori islamuri dapirispirebuli banaki erTkoaliciaSi yofiliyo. axla ki iranisa daTurqeTis interesebi erTmaneTs ruseTisSuamavlobiT daemTxva~bob! sagareo saqmeTa saministrocdaadasturebs, rom zalkalianiTurqeTSi imyofeboda._ zalkalianis TurqeTSivizitis Sesaxeb uwyebam gancx-adeba Tavidanve gaavrcela..._ mokled, is saubari, romlisSesaxebac giTxariT, TurqeTSinamdvilad Sedga..._ sainteresoa... ise, gulwr-felebi Tu viqnebiT, qrTamievropasac anaTebs. hoda, gamoricxavT,rom evropelma dip-lomatebma gancxadebebi imisgamo Searbiles, rom „oc-nebasTan” valSi arian?_ SemiZlia giTxraT, rom iq,sadac saqme geostrategiulinteresebs exeba, qrTami veranaTebs! SeiZleba, saerTod,lobistoba oficialuri formatia_ lobists, romelsacqiraob, fuls uxdi. man ki politikurwreebSi iseTi azrisCamoyalibeba unda SeZlos, romelicama Tu im xelisuflebismimarT pozitiuri iqneba, anupolitikuri lobizmi saidumlourTierTobis forma araa.biZinas fuls ra gamoulevs daSesabamisad, lobistebSi, raTqma unda, daxarjavs. sxva sakiTxia,es fuli TanamdebobispirebSi ixarjeba Tu ara. esCemi wvdomis areali ar gaxlavT_ aravin metyvis, magramlobistebSi rom didi fuliixarjeba, aSkarad Cans _ loialurganwyobebs vxedavT, magramroca saqme msoflio wesrigsada strategiul interesebsexeba, maSin es nawili gamoricxulia!_ yvelafer zemoTqmulidangamomdinare,dRevandelimocemulobiT, wagebuli xe-lisuflebaa Tu opozicia?_ „qarTuli ocneba” xelisuflebaa._ diax, es vici..._ opozicia, rogori upasuxismgeblocunda iyos igi darogor Secdomebsac unda uSvebdes,im kriteriumebiT arfasdeba, rogoriTac xelisuflebaunda SevafasoT!saerTod, yovelTvis yvelaproblema xelisuflebis gadasaWrelia,maT Soris, poli-2020 N4 (336) 22.03-4.04.2021 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comziani aqvs miRebuli da metsac miiRebs!~tikuri krizisic.amitom reputaciulad metiziani opozicias ki ara,„qarTul ocnebas” aqvs miRebulida metsac miiRebs. am SemTxvevaSiopozicia mxardaWerilia,radgan Zalauflebas arflobs da, Sesabamisad, SeqmnilviTarebaze arc pasuxismgeblobaekisreba!erTi sityviT, krizisis da-Zleva evropasac unda da aSSsac,anu situaciis ganmuxtvayvelas interesSia, magramimaze, gamosavali maincdamaincvadamdeli arCevnebia Tu ara,azrTa sxvadasxvaoba arsebobs._ Tqveni azriT, vadamdeliarCevnebi gamosavalia?_ yvela qveyanaSi, rocapolitikuri krizisi iqmneba,aqsiomasaviTaa _ raxan krizisia,azri xalxs vkiTxoTo.sxvaTa Soris, evropelebmaisic Tqves, ra azri aqvs, Tuaxali arCevnebis Semdeg igiveSedegi dadgebao? anu arCevnebmaSedegi unda Secvalos. hoda,Cvenc unda davanaxoT evropas,xelaxali arCevnebi krizisidangamosvlis erT-erTi yvelazeefeqtiani gza imitomaa, romxalxs ase unda, magram xalxisazri ar viciT. amitom viTxovTplebiscits._ e. i., valeri gelbaxianiplebiscitis momxrea?_ pragmatulad, plebiscitismowinaaRmdege var._ damisabuTeT, ratom?_ Tu plebisciti igivesaarCevno sistemiT da teqnologiebiTCatardeba, maSin garantiaar arsebobs, rom plebisciticiseve ar gayalbdes,rogorc 31 oqtombris arCevnebigayalbda._ sxvaTa Soris, ramdenimedRis win giga bokeriam ganacxada,Tu yvela sxva punqti dakmayofilda,parlamentSi SevalT,radgan vadamdel arCevnebamdemivideTo. es ras niS-navs?_ uyureT, ra xdeba._ ra xdeba?_ ramdenime sakiTxia._ kerZod?_ eqvsidan ori punqtis dakmayofilebaze,oTxis ki dRiswesrigidan moxsnazea saubari.am ori punqtidan pirveli politpatimrebsexeba, meore ki _adgilobriv arCevnebs. adgilobriviarCevnebisTvis evropelebisganaseTi winadadebaaSeTavazebuli, rom Tu „qarTuliocneba” 45 procentze metsmiiRebs, maSin plebisciti saWiroaRar iqneba da, Sesabamisad,dRis wesrigidan vadamdelissakiTxic moixsneba, magram Tu„ocneba” adgilobrivSi 45 procentzenaklebs miiRebs, aseTdros vadamdeli arCevnebigardauvali iqneba._ adgilobrivi arCevnebiZveli saarCevno sistemiTunda Catardes?_ ara, axali. paralelurad,arsebobs sakiTxi, romelic`Tu plebisciti igive saarCevno sistemiT da teqnologiebiT Catardeba,maSin garantia ar arsebobs, rom plebiscitic iseve ar gayalbdes, rogorc31 oqtombris arCevnebi gayalbda~dRis wesrigSi ar aris Setanili:31 oqtombris arCevnebTandakavSirebiT sagamoZiebo komisiaunda Seiqmnas da Tu, asevTqvaT, gayalbeba erT procentsascdeba, maSin adgilobriviarCevnebis Sedegs azri aRareqneba da vadamdeli arCevnebidainiSneba.amasTan, saarCevno kanonmdeblobaparitetul sawyisebzeunda Seicvalos. ai, axla realurades ixileba._ yvelafer amisTvis opo-ziciis parlamentSi Sesvlaaucilebelia?_ diax, radgan sakonstituciocvlilebebzea saubari._ mesmis, magram igive 20 iv-nisis Semdgom ganviTarebulimovlenebis gaTvaliswinebiT,arsebobs garantia, rom „ocnebam”opozicia ar „gadaag-dos”?_ amis garantia ar arsebobs,magram Tu Suamavlebi dokumentsxels moaweren, garantiaes iqneba, anu xelisuflebasopozicia ki ara, ukve evropamosTxovs pasuxs..._ faruli Canawerebis skandaliTiTqos gadaifara, ma-gram, batono valeri, Tqven,rogorc iuristi, am CanawerebSidanaSaulis niSnebs xe-davT?_ es ambavi piradad me gadamxda_ Cemze iseTi kompilirebuliCanaweri gavrcelda,roca movusmine, yurebs ar davujere,_ nuTu, amas me vlaparakob-meTqi?_ Tqvengan gansxvavebiT,Canaweris Sinaarsi, marTalia,arapirdapir, magram beramacdaadastura da anzor Cu-biniZemac._ mec davadasture, rom Cemisaubridan raRacebi amokrebilida gadabmuli iyo, anuCemi nalaparakebi iyo, magramwinadadebebi sxvadasxva konteqstidaniyo erTmaneTze mibmuli.amitom iZulebuli gavxdi,beWduri mediisTvis meTxova,rom am Canaweris sruli teqstigamoeqveynebina, radganxalxs waekiTxa, sinamdvileSi,marTalia, bera arc iuristia da arciuridiuli ganaTleba gaaCnia, magram misnaTqvams gamarTleba ar aqvs! metic: esgancxadeba dasjadi qmedebaa! gasagebia, romqarTul kulturaSi dedis Segineba dRemdeSeuracxyofad miiCneva da pasuxis gareSe arunda darCes, magram es adaTobrivisamarTalia. sajaro samarTali ki aseTraRacebs gmobs. amitom pasuxismgebloba imanunda aiRos, vinc riskavs!~ras vambobdi da 12-wuTian montaJSira gavida.mokled, Cemi mwaregamocdilebidan, ver vakeTebkomentars, es Canaweri originaliaTu montaJi._ weRandeli Tqmisa ar iyos,avTentikurobaxelaRebiTarc beram uaryo. metic: isicki Tqva, Tu vinme dedas kidevSeexeba, analogiurad mov-iqceviTo..._ beram Canawerebis avTentikurobaarc uaryo da arcdaadastura, magram es gancxadebaseriozuli araa. marTalia,bera arc iuristia da arciuridiuli ganaTleba gaaCnia,magram mis naTqvams gamarTlebaar aqvs!metic: es gancxadeba dasjadiqmedebaa!gasagebia, rom qarTul kulturaSidedis Segineba dRemdeSeuracxyofad miiCneva da pasuxisgareSe ar unda darCes,magram es adaTobrivi samarTalia.sajaro samarTali ki aseTraRacebs gmobs.amitom pasuxismgebloba imanunda aiRos, vinc riskavs!_ ise, rogor fiqrobT, amfaruli Canaweris gasajaroeba„ocnebis” interesSi Sedio-da? es Canaweri „nacebs” romhqonodaT, wesiT, aqamdec ga-moaqveynebdnen, ara?_ „nacionalebi” biZinaivaniSvils 9 wlis ganmavloba-Si, cxadia, ar dazogavdnen!_ eWvi visze gaqvT, „ocne-bidan” es Canawerebi vis undagamoetana?_ rogorc Cemamde modis informacia,laSa nacvliSvilisxeliT unda iyos gakeTebuli!_ nacvliSvils SurisZiebaRaribaSvilze undoda TumTel „ocnebaze”?_ „ocnebidan” rom gauSves,amitom undoda SurisZieba.sxvaTa Soris, es mxoloderTi kompromati araa._ aba?_ sxva kompromatebic arisda amiT vaWrobs. adre rom gau-Sves, maSinac ivaWra da daabrunes.axlac, rogorc Cans, va-Wrobs, Tu Tavs ar damanebebT,sxvebic maqvso._ nacvliSvili am CanawerebsTviTon ver gaakeTebda. e. i.,Zalovnebidan vinme awvdis,ara?_ ar vici, sworia Tu ara,magram, Cemi azria, rom nacvliSvils„otoSi” viRac hyavda,Tavisi kaci, romelic yvelaferamas iwerda da nacvliSvilsaZlevda._ sxvaTa Soris, zogierTimiiCnevs, rom „TavisufalisaqarTvelos” Tavmjdomarisyofili moadgilis, gogi wulaiasdakaveba swored am faruliCanawerebis skandalis gagrZelebaa,anu batonma wula-iam bera ivaniSvils pirdapireTerSi agina da gaCnda versia,rom qalze Zaladoba mouwyves.Tqven, rogorc dakavebuli po-litikosis advokati, am versiasiziarebT? sxvaTa Soris, da-zaralebuli qali ambobs, romcota dalia, magram daujerebelia,wulaias, romelmac gu-lis operacia ramdenime Tviswin gaikeTa, daelia..._ gogi wulaias testi Cautardada alkoholi nulianaCvenebi, anu alkoholuriTrobis qveS ar yofila._ e. i., versia, rom qalispecsamsaxurebma miugzavnesan gadaibires, dasaSvebia?_ araa gamoricxuli..._ bolos, batono valeri,mTeli es politikuri bakqana-lia riT damTavrdeba? sxvaTaSoris, maxsovs, 31 oqtombrisarCevnebamde meubnebodiT, ai,„ocneba” dRe-dReze damTavrdebao,magram ki ar damTavrda,avad Tu kargad, xelisuf-lebaSi mesame vadiTac darCa._ davijere, rom biZinaivaniSvils yvelaferi es moswyindada politikidan wavida,magram, samwuxarod, Sevcdi.Turme, Tu did tyuilsityvi, adamianebi ijereben, pataratyuilze ki eWvi aqvT.mokled, misi naTqvami davijere,radgan ar megona, Tu amxelatyuils ityoda!_ axla risi gjeraT, anu raselodebiT?_ imaze met resurss, racaqvs, opozicia, cxadia, cidanver Camoitans. es resursi vadamdeliarCevnebisTvis sakmarisiaraa, magram CvenTvis damamSvidebeligaremoeba is aris,rom am SemTxvevaSi laparakimxolod opoziciaze ar gaxlavT._ aba, kidev visze an razea?_ saqarTvelo msofliosstrategiuli politikis nawilia!amitom es ambavi mxolodCveni gadasawyveti SeiZlebaarc gaxdes da dasavleTi uke-Tesadac gadawyvets!_ e. i., vadamdel arCevnebsgrZelvadian perspeqtivaSiunda velodoT?_ swrafad araferi xdeba.saerTod, omi grZelvadiania.es ki Cveulebrivi omia, RirebulebaTaomi.N4 (336) 22.03-4.04.2021 w.21
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