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literaturuli literaturuli gazeTi<br />
gazeTi<br />
interviu 22 ivnisi - 5 ivlisi 2012<br />
raRac zRapruli, miTosuri. albaT<br />
nebismieri adamianis cxovrebas axlavs<br />
pirovnuli miTosi, bedisweras rom eZaxian.<br />
Cemi wignis _ `miTosis ZiebaSi~ _<br />
epigrafad antikuri epoqis istorikosisa<br />
da filosofosis, salustiusis<br />
sityvebi gamovitane: `miTosi isaa, rac<br />
arasodes yofila, magram rac mudam<br />
myofobs~. gana literatura, mxatvruli<br />
samyaro aseTi ar aris? `Cems~ mwerlebTan<br />
Sexvedrac miTosia CemTvis,<br />
SemTxveviT xom araferi xdeba.<br />
_ samecniero xarisxi daicaviT<br />
Temaze `angelozis Tema da motivi<br />
dasavleTevropul literaturaSi<br />
(franc kafka, d. h. lorensi, qristine<br />
lavanti, Stefan george, georg Traqli<br />
da r.m. rilke)~. naSromi wignadaa<br />
gamocemuli. faqtiurad, Tqven warmoadgineT<br />
safuZvliani kvleva axal<br />
dargSi _ komparativistikaSi, anu SedarebiT<br />
literaturaTmcodneobaSi,<br />
rac jer kidev auTvisebelia CvenTan.<br />
_ naSromis Tema marTlac<br />
mWidrodaa dakavSirebuli religiis<br />
sferosTan, saidanac angelozis idea,<br />
xati da motivi dasavlur literaturaSi<br />
iqna transportirebuli. zemoT<br />
CamoTvlilma avtorebma _ XX saukunis<br />
modernistebma angelozis Tema<br />
literaturaSi absoluturad sxvagvarad<br />
Semoitanes da ara im saxiT,<br />
kanonikur qristianobaSi rom hqonda.<br />
kvlevisken mibiZga rilkem, romlis<br />
epoqalur nawarmoebSi `duinuri elegiebi~<br />
angelozis saxe Zalian sainteresodaa<br />
warmodgenili. rakiRa<br />
rilke Cemi sayvareli avtoria da Tan<br />
germanisti var, daviwye kvleva. Semdeg<br />
Tea Tofuria:<br />
`samyaros martivad unda xedavde~<br />
dasasruli<br />
_ niSa ara, ufro SesaZlebloba. is,<br />
rac yvelaze bunebrivad gamomdis. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, minda ramdenime vrceli<br />
sabavSvo zRapari davwero, magram<br />
zogjer davfiqrdebi xolme – mWirdeba<br />
ki? xom ar iqneba es sakuTari niWis<br />
gamrudeba?<br />
_ sakuTari niWisTvis swori mimarTulebis<br />
micema erT-erTi mniSvnelovani<br />
faqtoria mwerlisaTvis.<br />
rogor fiqrob, kidev ra aris saWiro<br />
imisTvis, rom adamianebma Seni nawerebi<br />
waikiTxon? marto weris survili<br />
albaT ar kmara.<br />
_ Zalze mniSvnelovania, ra gaqvs<br />
saTqmeli da ramdenad ainteresebs es<br />
Tamar kotrikaZe:<br />
`literatura Cemi bedisweraa~<br />
dasasruli<br />
<strong>nino</strong> <strong>gugeSaSvili</strong><br />
kvakardi<br />
dasasruli<br />
uceb kvakardi sagangaSo signaliT<br />
atutunda. zero axta da yavis finjani<br />
gauvarda xelidan. kvakardis monitorze<br />
axali Setyobineba movida: `fasiani<br />
fiqrebisTvis depozitidan<br />
CamogeWraT 16 kvazari. Tu gsurT ganagrZoT<br />
fasiani fiqrebi, xmovani signalis<br />
dasrulebis Semdeg ganagrZeT,<br />
Tu ara da SewyviteT xmovani signalis<br />
dasrulebamde~ da CairTo xmovani signali:<br />
`dari-duri, dari-duri, daridaraleee~...<br />
zerom saswrafod Sewyvita fasiani<br />
fiqrebi da dawva usizmrod, ufiqrebod<br />
da gauxdelad...<br />
diliT zero darwmunda, rom TviT<br />
es yovlisSemZle kvakardi, yovladmzrunveli<br />
fulad-sakredito sistemac<br />
ki araa uzado, imdenad ramdenadac<br />
qvecnobieris dafarvis zonaSi gauTvaliswinebeli<br />
avariebiT da SeferxebebiT<br />
muSaobs. RamiT zeros kontrol-<br />
sxva avtorebze gadavedi, didi sivrce<br />
movicavi, CemTvis saintereso masala<br />
maT SemoqmedebaSic moviZie da erTmaneTs<br />
Sevadare. zogadad rom giTxraT,<br />
suraTi aseTia: me-20 saukuneSi evropa<br />
faqtiurad sulier kolafsSi aRmoCnda.<br />
mas `dakarguli~ hqonda qristianoba,<br />
darCenili iyo sayrdenis<br />
gareSe, daucvelobis SegrZnebam warmoSva<br />
depresiebi, usasooba da ase Semdeg.<br />
im epoqis adamianis warmodgenaSi<br />
angelozi TandaTan daSorda Tavis<br />
tradiciul saxes da daikava RmerTis<br />
adgili; meore mxriv, igi iqca srulyofili<br />
adamianis, zekacis idealad _<br />
saxed, romelsac SeiZleba mimarTo,<br />
mibaZo, magram verasodes miuaxlovde,<br />
radgan RmerTis simaRlezea. amrigad<br />
idan gaeqca sizmrebi da uneburad daesizmra,<br />
rom Cavida qobuleTSi, amoiRo<br />
es Tavisi kvakardi, moavlo haers, mzes,<br />
zRvas, Semdeg Svidvarskvlavian sastumros,<br />
katers, banans, paraSuts, katamarans,<br />
taroebs, Sezlongs da qolgas.<br />
mere restoranSi Sevida da yvela sayvareli<br />
kerZi da sasmeli erTad Seukve-<br />
Ta.<br />
cisartyelac ki naxa zRvis Tavze,<br />
Sig gaifrina paraSutiT, Tumca amaze<br />
arasodes uocnebia...<br />
diliT dafeTebuli wamovarda, es<br />
ra koSmari daesizmra – yvela ocneba<br />
aisrula sizmarSi! vaimeee, es ra daemarTa!<br />
rogor misca Tavs amdenis<br />
ufleba, rom Tundac sizmarSi ocnebebi<br />
aisrula! retdasxmuli wamoxta da<br />
kvakardis monitors daxeda. `Tqven<br />
gagiaqtiurdaT servisi `uneblie nisia~<br />
da angariSidan CamogeWraT servisis<br />
safasuri, 4 kvazari, plius nisiad nanaxi<br />
sizmrebis safasuri 37 kvazari. sul<br />
41 kvazari. Tu ar gsurT servisiT `uneblie<br />
nisia~ sargebloba, gTxovT RamiT<br />
gamorToT kvakardi. kvakardi – Tqveni<br />
simSvidis da materialuri stabilurobis<br />
garanti! gaiRimeT – kvakardi<br />
TqvenTanaa!~<br />
saTqmeli sxvas. teqstma mkiTxvelis<br />
yuradReba unda miipyros. Sesabamisad,<br />
is, rasac wer, an gamocdilebiT unda<br />
gqondes gamyarebuli, an didxans<br />
nafiqri da gaazrebuli. nebismieri mwerali<br />
iZiebs informacias misTvis saintereso<br />
Temaze, aanalizebs da saku-<br />
Tari interpretaciiT gvTavazobs mas.<br />
rac metad emTxveva es interpretacia<br />
sagnis an movlenis realur arss, miT<br />
ufro maRalia avtoris profesionalizmi.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, es mwerlis Sefasebis<br />
erT-erT kriteriumadac SeiZleba<br />
gamodges: rogoria misi interesebis<br />
sfero, ra Temebi aRelvebs, ramdenad<br />
uRrmavdeba sagnis arss...<br />
esaubra nana kobaiZe<br />
XX saukunem, Tavisi urwmunoebis miuxedavad,<br />
bolomde mainc ver daiviwya<br />
qriste. rilkemac, yovelmxriv rom<br />
uaryofda qristianobas, _ da amas<br />
Tavisi mizezebi hqonda _ absoluturad<br />
arareligiur nawarmoebSi poetur<br />
xatad swored angelozi airCia.<br />
imisaTvis, rom gangvesazRvra, ras<br />
warmoadgens angelozis fenomeni literaturaSi,<br />
aucilebeli iyo gvcodnoda,<br />
ra rols TamaSobs igi religiis<br />
sivrceSi. amitom Tavdapirvelad angelozis<br />
bibliuri saxis Seswavla daviwye.<br />
ase rom, am Temis kvleva sainteresoc<br />
iyo da rTulic.<br />
_ rogorc mTargmneli aqtiurad<br />
TanamSromlobT qarTul gamomcemlobebTan.<br />
garda `ucnobi grigol<br />
zerom gaiRima. `uh, 41 kvazars kidev<br />
arauSavs, gamiskda guli!~... samagierod<br />
dReidan ukeTesi gaxdeba, ufro patiosnad<br />
icxovrebs, ufro frTxilad _<br />
emand uneblie nisia arsad Semoe(ni)sios,<br />
araferi gaefiqros, araferi<br />
moesurvos, gafiqrebac codvaa,<br />
araferi Sescodos... me var kvakardi,<br />
kardi Seni da ara arian kardni ucxoni...<br />
moulodnelad kvakardma netar<br />
robaqiZisa~, bolo dros kidev ra<br />
proeqtebSi iRebdiT monawileobas?<br />
_ sainteresoa `inteleqtis~ proeqti<br />
saxelwodebiT `nobelis premiis<br />
laureatebi~. am seriiT qarTvelma<br />
mkiTxvelma araerTi, misTvis axali avtori<br />
gaicno. mec ori, CemTvis aqamde<br />
ucnobi nobelianti vTargmne. erT-er-<br />
Tia vidiadhar naipoli, induri warmoSobis<br />
inglisurenovani mwerali,<br />
romlis Semoqmedebac mWidrod ukav-<br />
Sirdeba inglisur kulturasa da<br />
prozis tradiciebs.<br />
meore nobelianti, romelic vTargmne,<br />
samxreT afrikeli mwerali nadin<br />
gordimeria _ moTxrobis ostati.<br />
wigns grZeli da provokaciuli saTauri<br />
aqvs _ `beThovens 1/16 zangis sisxli<br />
hqonda~ da afrikis sinamdviles<br />
gvixatavs. TviTon nadini, TeTrkaniani<br />
kulturis warmomadgeneli, emigrantebis<br />
Svilia. yovelTvis aqtiurad<br />
ibrZoda rasizmis winaaRmdeg da nelson<br />
mandelas Tanamoazre iyo. roca<br />
mandela patimrobidan gaaTavisufles,<br />
pirvelad swored nadin gordimerTan<br />
moisurva Sexvedra. wignis garekanze<br />
mkiTxveli mandelasa da gordimeris<br />
fotosac ixilavs warweriT: `ori nobelianti~.<br />
monawileoba miviRe `inteleqtis~<br />
kidev erT saintereso proeqtSi _<br />
`erTi Sedevris yvela qarTuli Targmani~.<br />
vTanamSromlob gamomcemloba<br />
`diogenesTan~, sxvebTanac.<br />
_ qarTuli literaturis nimuSebi<br />
Tu giTargmniaT ucxo enebze?<br />
_ jer-jerobiT rusul enaze<br />
vTargmne `kavkasiuri folklori~ da<br />
fragmenti nato daviTaSvilis<br />
wignidan `ambavi lile iroelisa~. Tuki<br />
gamomcemlebi SemomTavazeben, siamovnebiT<br />
vimuSaveb am mimarTulebiTac.<br />
esaubra Tamar Juruli<br />
xmaze daitutuna, `glori, glori,<br />
haleluia~ Seasrula. es raRaao,<br />
gaifiqra zerom da guli hamakiviT Seuqanda.<br />
`gilocavT! Tqven CagerToT<br />
servisi `gasxivosneba~ da saCuqrad<br />
dagericxaT depozitze erTi kvazari.<br />
servisis CarTvis safasuria 3 kvazari.<br />
gasxivosnebis ganmeorebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
servisis CarTvis safasuris gadaxda<br />
saWiro aRaraa. kvakardi _ Tqveni<br />
sulieri ganwmendis garanti...~
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