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lela gafrin<strong>da</strong>Svili: Cven ramdenime tipis kanons<br />

vemorCilebiT. erTi mxriv aris religiuri kanoni,<br />

meore mxriv _ civilizebuli, anu samoqalaqo kanonebi,<br />

romelsac un<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong>vemorCiloT, rogorc am qveynis<br />

moqalaqeebi. CvenSi isev Zlieria a<strong>da</strong>T-wesobrivi<br />

samarTali. Cvens cxovrebaSi did rols asrulebs<br />

e.w. tradiciuli normebi, romelsac mainc<strong>da</strong>mainc<br />

did winaRmdegobas ver vuwevT. amave dros 1994<br />

wli<strong>da</strong>n saqarTvelo saerTaSoriso samarTlis subieqti<br />

gax<strong>da</strong>. Tu Cven varT sekularuli saxelmwifo<br />

<strong>da</strong> gvin<strong>da</strong> civilizebuli samyaros nawilad viqceT,<br />

maSin un<strong>da</strong> vaRiaroT, rom yvela sxva samarTalTan<br />

mimarTebaSi, primati saerTaSoriso samarTals aqvs.<br />

nino beqiSvili: qarTveli mosamarTleebi saqmeebis<br />

ganxilvisas iSviTad mimarTaven saerTaSoriso<br />

samarTals.<br />

lela gafrin<strong>da</strong>Svili: xSirad maT isic ar ician,<br />

rom saerTaSoriso samarTals primati aqvs. amis<br />

gar<strong>da</strong>, saerTaSoriso samarTliT garantirebuli<br />

uflebebi bevr moqalaqes, saxelmwifo moxeles, politikoss<br />

Tu sasuliero pirs gacnobierebuli ar<br />

aqvs <strong>da</strong> ar esmis, rom amis gareSe qveyana, sa<strong>da</strong>c<br />

vcxovrobT, ver gaxdeba civilizebuli <strong>da</strong> ver ganvviTardebiT.<br />

nino beqiSvili: erekle deisaZis wigni, savaraudod,<br />

mxolod sababi iyo. konfliqti ar <strong>da</strong>wyebula<br />

guSin. bolo wlebis manZilze garkveuli sixSiriT<br />

amgvari SemTxvevebi xdebo<strong>da</strong>. Tuki vaRiarebT saqarTvelos<br />

konstitucias <strong>da</strong> saerTaSoriso kanonmdeblobas,<br />

romelic icavs Cveni gamoxatvis Tavisuflebas,<br />

maSin ra un<strong>da</strong> vqnaT? arseboben a<strong>da</strong>mianebi,<br />

romlebic amboben, rom wignebi un<strong>da</strong> aikrZalos, kanonmdebloba<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>ixedos <strong>da</strong> a. S.<br />

levan berZeniSvili: es martivi saqme ar aris. deisaZes<br />

aqvs ufleba, weros, rac un<strong>da</strong>. rac Seexeba am<br />

organizacias <strong>da</strong> mis Zaladobas _ qalbatonma natom<br />

ojaxur Zaladobaze isaubra, magram organizebuli<br />

Zaladoba gansxvavdeba erTi piris Zaladobisgan.<br />

koleqtiur Zaladobas aqvs erTi Tavisebureba. am<br />

Taviseburebas kacobrioba gaecno iseTi formiT,<br />

rom mere Sercxva <strong>da</strong> warmoudgeneli dokumenti<br />

<strong>da</strong>do 1948 wlis 10 dekembers. dRes `a<strong>da</strong>mianis<br />

uflebaTa sayovelTao deklaracias~ veravin ver<br />

<strong>da</strong>wers <strong>da</strong> ar arsebobs saxelmwifo, romelic mas<br />

dRes miiReb<strong>da</strong>. yvela religiuri konfesia ewinaaRmdegeba<br />

am dokuments, es normaluricaa, asec un<strong>da</strong><br />

iyos. es deklaracia yvelaferze maRla <strong>da</strong>dga swored<br />

imitom, rom misma Semqmnelebma warmoudgeneli<br />

sisastike naxes.<br />

lela gafrin<strong>da</strong>Svili<br />

diskusia<br />

erTi mxriv, arsebobs ukiduresad<br />

liberaluri azri <strong>da</strong> meore<br />

mxriv _ ukiduresad fanatikuri<br />

Sexedulebebi. SuaSi ki araferia.<br />

Tuki demokratiis, liberalizmis<br />

evropul istorias ga<strong>da</strong>vxe<strong>da</strong>vT,<br />

vnaxavT, rom iyo raRac warmodgenebi,<br />

Semdeg Cndebo<strong>da</strong> maTi sapirispiro<br />

ideebi <strong>da</strong> swored sapirispiros<br />

gaCenis Semdeg Cndebo<strong>da</strong> qveynebis<br />

<strong>da</strong> Sexedulebebis ganviTarebas<br />

SesaZlebloba.<br />

Zaladoba Zaladobas warmoSobs. Cven amdeni xania,<br />

vuyurebT sxva qveynebSi amas. Tu israeli Zaladobs,<br />

maSin arabebi afeTqeben <strong>da</strong> Tu arabebi afeTqeben,<br />

maSin israeli Zaladobs. es ar <strong>da</strong>mTavrdeba,<br />

vidre ar moiZebneba raime formula. Cven sazogadoebas<br />

komunisturi ideologia moaxvies Tavs. vinc<br />

ar eTanxmebo<strong>da</strong>, imas mixe<strong>da</strong>vdnen. naxevarma qveyanam<br />

<strong>da</strong>xoca qveynis meore naxevari. komunistebis dros<br />

Cven gamovtoveT ganviTarebis faza, CamovrCiT.<br />

xolo Cven, qarTvelebi, vinai<strong>da</strong>n ar vflobdiT saerTo<br />

saxelmwifos 800 wlis ganmavlobaSi, gansaku-<br />

Trebulad CamovrCiT _ ufro metad, vidre baltiis<br />

qveynebi.<br />

saqarTveloSi gaCn<strong>da</strong> moTxovna `erTze~. magali-<br />

Tad, moiTxoven, gaerTiandes mTeli opozicia.<br />

naTelia, vinc amas iTxovs, is xval gcems, imitom,<br />

rom is `erTs~ iTxovs. erTisadmi aseTi brma rwmenaa,<br />

moiTxoven, rom mTeli nacia erTis garSemo Seikras,<br />

yvelas un<strong>da</strong> hqondes erTi azri, yvelas un<strong>da</strong><br />

ecvas ase, yvela un<strong>da</strong> iyos aseTi. me gansakuTrebiT<br />

momewona, roca axalgazr<strong>da</strong> axalgazr<strong>da</strong>s uxsni<strong>da</strong>,<br />

ra un<strong>da</strong> Caicvas.<br />

nino beqiSvili: saqarTvelo Tan<strong>da</strong>Tan xdeba Tanamedrove<br />

msoflios nawili <strong>da</strong> am pirobebSi eklesia<br />

ver iqneba erTaderTi azrTa mpyrobeli, rogorc<br />

cxeli Sokoladi 65

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