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#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

kis SemuSavebas da arc sxva<br />

sferosi.<br />

ivaniSvili ki xalxs<br />

hpirdeba, rom mosaxleobas<br />

eqneba iseTi xelfasi da pensiebi,<br />

rom Tavad SeZleben<br />

Tavis rCenas. misi azriT, pensia<br />

ar unda iyos saarsebo<br />

minimumze naklebi.<br />

xelisuflebis azriT ki<br />

sapensio paketi unda iyos<br />

asi dolaris Sesabamisi. Cem-<br />

Tvis gaugebaria, ratom saubrobs<br />

mTavroba dolarebze,<br />

roca erovnuli valuta aris<br />

lari? an ratom unda iyos<br />

sapensio paketi asi dolaris<br />

Sesabamisi da ara Tavad pensia?<br />

imitom xom ara, rom sapensio<br />

paketSi Seiyvanon<br />

dazRvevac da vauCeric?<br />

saarsebo minimumi is maCvenebelia,<br />

romelsac dRes<br />

mTavroba araferSi ar iyenebs,<br />

ar sWirdeba.<br />

ivaniSvilis gundis dapireba,<br />

rom saarsebo minimumi<br />

dRes orasoc lars Seadgens<br />

da amaze naklebi pensia qveyanaSi<br />

ar unda iyos, ufro realurad<br />

mimaCnia. Tumca, minda<br />

vnaxo maTi programa, rom<br />

am orasoc larianma pensiam<br />

ar gamoiwvios SemdgomSi inflacia<br />

da lari ar gaufasurdes.<br />

-ministrebis Secvla moitans<br />

raime sikeTes?<br />

-araferi ar Secvlila,<br />

moxda mxolod gadaadgileba,<br />

rac Seexeba dasaqmebis ministrs,<br />

is fizikurad ver<br />

moaswrebs winasaarCevno periodSi<br />

raimes gakeTebas imitom,<br />

rom mas sWirdeba sakanonmdeblo<br />

baza da zafxul-<br />

Si ki parlamenti ar muSaobs.<br />

amdenad, es axali posti ministrisa<br />

_ formaluria.<br />

-danarCen `karuselze~ ra<br />

SeiZleba iTqvas?<br />

-SaSkini risi specialistia,<br />

cixeebis, ganaTlebis Tu<br />

Tavdacvis? gaugebaria. rac<br />

Seexeba merabiSvils, is, samwuxarod,<br />

ver iqneba Zlieri<br />

premieri imitom, rom mas daakargvines<br />

kontroli Sinagan<br />

saqmeTa saministroze. misi<br />

ndobiT aRWurvili piri rom<br />

daeniSnaT ministrad, is sakmaod<br />

gaZlierdeboda. baCo axalaiam<br />

ki sakadro cvlilebebi<br />

moaxdina, ramac merabiSvilis<br />

poziciebi Seasusta. vfiqrob,<br />

arc merabiSvilia, imiT bednieri,<br />

rom ase mizanmimarTulad<br />

daungries mTeli sistema,<br />

romliTac is amayobda.<br />

-isic nu dagvaviwdeba,<br />

rom merabiSvilma sistema<br />

aawyo biZina ivaniSvilis SemweobiT<br />

da daxmarebiT.<br />

-diax, es daxmareba iyo da<br />

biujetidanac kargi dafinanseba<br />

hqonda.<br />

-ekonomikuri programa<br />

qveyanas ratom ar gaaCnia?<br />

-imitom, rom erTi kacis<br />

axirebazea yvelaferi damokidebuli.<br />

magaliTad, unda<br />

“lazika” da unda aSendes!<br />

SeiZleba am proeqtze seriozulad<br />

vilaparakoT? cxadia,<br />

ara. xelisuflebas ar aqvs<br />

qveynis ganviTarebis realuri<br />

gegma.<br />

-ras eliT momavali ar-<br />

Cevnebisagan, SeZlebs ki biZina<br />

ivaniSvili qveynis gadar-<br />

Cenas? samwuxaro ar aris is<br />

faqti, rom mas evroparlamentSic<br />

oligarqi uwodes?<br />

-saqme is gaxlavT, rom<br />

seriozuli politikuri TamaSi<br />

mimdinareobs rogorc<br />

CvenSi, ise ucxoeTSi. vidre<br />

ivaniSvili gamoCndeboda,<br />

“TamaSi cal karSi” mimdinareobda,<br />

anu rasac saakaSvili<br />

ityoda, imas apiarebdnen mis<br />

mier Cveni fuliT daqiravebuli<br />

lobistebi. ivaniSvili<br />

ki lobistebs sakuTari xarjebiT<br />

afinansebs. evroparlamentSi<br />

Tu mas oligarqi uwodes,<br />

es dids arafers niSnavs,<br />

mosyiduli da daqiravebuli<br />

xalxi marto saqarTveloSi<br />

xom ar aris?<br />

is, rasac dRes xelisufleba<br />

ivaniSvils ukeTebs,<br />

aris yovelgvari kanondarRveva,<br />

samarTlianobaze ki laparakic<br />

zedmetia. mas qonebis<br />

nawili dauyadaRes, surT<br />

auqcionze gauyidon da a.S.<br />

erTaderTi resursi rac<br />

mas qveyanaSi gaaCnia, es aris<br />

_ qarTveli xalxi, romelsac<br />

ebrZvis saakaSvili! amitom<br />

Tu xalxi moindomebs, qveyanaSi<br />

seriozuli cvlilebebi<br />

iqneba.<br />

me am pirovnebaSi ara imdenad<br />

politikur figuras<br />

vxedav, ramdenadac saqarTvelos<br />

gadarCenis garanti!<br />

uZraoba-aris damyayeba,<br />

moZraoba cvlilebis gareSe<br />

SeuZlebelia, amitom qveyana-<br />

Si unda moxdes siaxle am<br />

cvlilebis realuri saxe<br />

Cveni erisaTvis aris biZina<br />

ivaniSvili da Tu man am ar-<br />

CevnebSi ver gaimarjva, kidev<br />

mraval wels viqnebiT “nacionalur”<br />

uZraobaSi!<br />

eTer<br />

kasreliSvili<br />

gogi TofaZe: is, rac karaleTSi<br />

moxda, cota sxva WrilSi<br />

unda davinaxoT. nebismieri xelisufleba,<br />

iqneba demokratiuli, Tu<br />

avtoritaruli, yovelTvis cdilobs<br />

xalxs Tavi moawonos<br />

motyuebiT, piariT da a.S. Cveni<br />

xelisufleba iseT stadiaSia,<br />

roca mas xalxis azri aRar<br />

ainteresebs. man icis, rom<br />

mxolod daSinebiTa da teroriT<br />

SeiZleba miaRwios sasurvels.<br />

Tumca verafers ver miaRweven.<br />

rodesac xelisufleba<br />

kargavs kontrols sakuTar Tavze<br />

da ignorirebas ukeTebs xalxis<br />

azrs, is, praqtikulad, ganwirulia.<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis“ maisurebi<br />

acviaT da midian yvelanair provokaciaze,<br />

erTi suli aqvT, rogorme<br />

avyveT da mere es gamosvlebi iseve<br />

CaaxrCon sisxlSi,. rogorc 26<br />

maisis, 7 noembris aqciebi. karale-<br />

Tis da mereTis incidentebi imisTvis<br />

gakeTda, rom xalxi daaSinon<br />

da goris aqciaze ar mivides. mag-<br />

ram qarTlelebs ver SeaSineben.<br />

SiSis sindromi moxsnilia. xalxma<br />

dainaxa, rom SeiZleba raRac gveSvelos.<br />

qarTli Cveni qveynis beRelia.<br />

gaxsovT, rogori soflebi iyo,<br />

ramdeni sawarmo da qarxana muSaobda.<br />

axla yvelaferi dangreulia.<br />

rodesac xelisufleba eTanxmeba<br />

Tavisi qveynis ekonomikis dangrevas,<br />

es ukve genocidis tolfasia,<br />

is wiravs mosaxleobas SimSiliT<br />

sikvdilisTvis. Tu ekonomika<br />

ar aris ganviTarebuli, ver ganvi-<br />

Tardeba verc mecniereba, verc<br />

kultura, verc sporti da a.S.<br />

is, rac xdeba saqarTveloSi, gansakuTrebiT<br />

ki soflad, es aris<br />

qarTveli xalxis genocidi.<br />

glexma moiyvana xilis saocari<br />

mosavali da ar icis, sad Caabaros.<br />

ulpeba mosavali. 140-mde<br />

sakonservo qarxana iyo saqarTveloSi.<br />

SeiZleba bevri maTgani ar<br />

iyo Tanamedrove teqnologiebze<br />

damyarebuli, magram magis gakeTebas<br />

ra unda?! Cveni unikaluri gemovnuri<br />

Tvisebebis xili uqmad<br />

lpeba da vaSli argentinidan Semoaqvs<br />

am mTavrobas. Cvens produqcias<br />

klaven, rom viRacas bazari<br />

gauTavisuflon. amiT mosaxleobis<br />

50%-s, romlebic soflad cxovroben,<br />

saarsebo saSualebas uspob.<br />

80-ian wlebSi gorSi aSenda Tanamedrove<br />

xilis gadamamuSavebeli<br />

qarxana da me TviTon gamqonda<br />

germaniaSi qarTuli vaSlis wveni<br />

cisternebiT. kidev undodaT germanelebs<br />

waReba, magram vaSlis<br />

plantaciebi gaiCexa, qarxana ganadgurda.<br />

ase iRupeba ekonomika, razec<br />

dgas qveyana.<br />

Cven erTaderTi qveyana varT,<br />

sadac genmodificirebuli produqcia<br />

ar markirdeba. Cven imdens mivaRwieT,<br />

rom sabaJoze kontroli<br />

movspeT, markireba ar gvaqvs. anu<br />

moiwamleT, mokvdiTo, _ gveubneba<br />

xelisufleba.<br />

Cven <strong>didi</strong> xania vxedavT, rom<br />

ufskrulis piras migviyvana nacionalurma<br />

moZraobam da dRes, qvey-<br />

nis gadarCenis, aRorZinebis Sansi,<br />

romelic gamoCnda aucileblad unda<br />

gamoviyenoT. rezo amaSukeliviT<br />

uSiSrad rom ibrZodes yvela, aseT<br />

mdgomareobaSi ar viqnebodiT.<br />

unda aRorZindes soflis meurneoba<br />

da Sesabamisad aRorZindeba<br />

mrewveloba. mTeli evropa meore<br />

msoflio omis Semdeg aRdga swored<br />

soflis meurneobis<br />

meSveobiT. batoni biZinas<br />

iniciativa soflis meurneobis<br />

aRorZinebis Sesaxeb<br />

pirdapir moipara nacionalebma.<br />

soflis dangreva<br />

daiwyo 96-96<br />

wlebSi. maSin mrewvelebi<br />

bevrs vkamaTobdiT am sakiTxze.<br />

vidre merabiSvili<br />

premierad dainiSneboda,<br />

manamde soflis ganadgurebaze<br />

werdnen nacionalebis<br />

da benduqiZis<br />

eqspertebi. manipulireben<br />

raRac cifrebiT, mohyvaT<br />

magalitebi, rom evropaSi<br />

soflis produqtebi mxolod<br />

7-8% Seadgens. rac<br />

mamali tyuilia. magaliTad SveicariaSi<br />

yvelaze <strong>didi</strong> investiciebi<br />

soflis meurneobaSi ideba, faqtiurad<br />

dotaciazea ayvanili. rogor<br />

gvatyueben ase urcxvad, maSin, roca<br />

mTel msoflioSi cnobilia Sveicariis<br />

yveli da xorci.<br />

ar grcxveniaT, rom gveubnebiT,<br />

sad gayidiT gadamuSavebul nawarmso,<br />

genmodificirebuli iyideba<br />

da qarTuli xili, tomati ar gava?<br />

kitri vietnamidan SemoaqvT da<br />

xaxvi da niori egviptidan, ra Cveni<br />

ar SeiZleba gvqondes?! magram<br />

specialurad mokles qarTuli sofeli.<br />

uperspeqtivos rom uwodeben<br />

sofels, magaze unda moeTxovos<br />

pasuxi da Tu yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />

damTavrda oqtomberSi,<br />

me, piradad, movTxov maT amaze pasauxs.<br />

dRes ra iaponias ar gaaqvs<br />

Cveni mwvanili da mawoni? an ratom<br />

mihyavT arabebs Cveni cxvari,<br />

imitom, rom alpur zonaSi gazrdil<br />

cxvars sxva<br />

monacemebi aqvs.<br />

xorcs ver gavyidoT<br />

Tundac CvenTan? ma-<br />

Sin, roca saRebaviT<br />

gajerebuli Cai da<br />

soioTi savse gadamuSavebuli<br />

xorcis<br />

produqcia Semodis<br />

saqarTveloSi. an kidev<br />

zeTi, romelic<br />

ararafinirebuli<br />

da aTasgvari minarevebiTaa<br />

savse. mzesumziras<br />

miaqvs mTeli<br />

qarTli da kaxe-<br />

Ti. am dros. ra, ar<br />

gvqonda cximkombinati, romelic<br />

zeTsac awarmoebda da karaqsac?!<br />

Cai mokles dasavleT saqarTvelo-<br />

Si, gurulebi da megrelebi dRes<br />

TurqeTSi gadadian plantaciaSi<br />

samuSaod, raRac alternativa mainc<br />

mieciT, rom xalxi aRar gaiqces<br />

qveynidan. im plantaciebis adgilas<br />

simindi gaaSenebine, zeTsaxdeli<br />

auge da aRar dagvWirdeba<br />

sxva qveynidan Semotana, simindis<br />

zeTi xom dRes yvelaze popularulia<br />

msoflioSi.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

benduqiZe wers, rom Zalian cota<br />

miwa gvqonia saqarTveloSi. aba,<br />

ra iqneba, mTeli 15 welia sarwyav<br />

sistemebs angrevdnen da gahqondaT<br />

qveynidan, iseve rogorc xe-tye,<br />

melioracia sruliad mospes.<br />

aba, aRdges es sistemebi Tu<br />

ar gvaqvs saxnav-saTesi an sa-<br />

Zovrebi. Sublis ZarRvi aRar<br />

aqvs am xelisuflebas, atyueben<br />

mosaxleobas da mgoni, miSasac,<br />

is xom azrze ar aris, saerTod,<br />

ra xdeba qveynad.<br />

gamoacxada merabiSvilma, is<br />

xom SedarebiT Wkviani kacia, kargi<br />

menejeri, rom sofeli aris prioritetuli.<br />

axla, naxeT, ra statiebs<br />

dawers is xalxi, romelic er-<br />

Ti Tvis win soflis meurneobis<br />

wamgebianobaze gvesaubrebodnen.<br />

sindisi aRar aqvT.<br />

Tu SevSindiT, maSin aRaraviTari<br />

perspeqtiva aRar gvaqvs, morCeba<br />

saqarTvelo. ukan daxevis Sansi<br />

aRar aris. sasowarkveTilebamdea<br />

misuli raionis mosaxleoba. swored<br />

soflebidan garbis mosaxleoba.<br />

vazi aaCexines, Cai aaCexines,<br />

xils ver yidis da ra unda qnas<br />

qarTvelma glexma, banans xom ar<br />

moiyvans?! erTi <strong>patara</strong> qarxana erT<br />

sofels inaxavs da migracia aRar<br />

xdeba. raWaSi muxis xavss vamzadebdiT,<br />

romelc sunamos fiqsatorad<br />

gamoiyeneba parfiumeriaSi, oqroT<br />

Semodioda valuta. samegreloSi<br />

Jasminis zeTs, vardis zeTs vamzadebdiT.<br />

es yvelaferi ucxoeTSi<br />

gadioda. 14 aseTi qarxana iyo da<br />

30000 kaci iyo dasaqmebuli. yvelaferi<br />

ganadgurda. erTi moiyvaneT<br />

benduqiZe, vekamaTo soflis<br />

aRorZinebaze. biZinaze rom laparakobs,<br />

TviTon rusuli fuliT ar<br />

aris Camosuli?! erTi lari mainc<br />

Tu aqvs daxarjuli qvelmoqmedeba-<br />

Si?!<br />

wyali Zalian bevria saqarTveloSi,<br />

magram sistemaa gasakeTebeli,<br />

rom mosaxleobas hqondes. gamgeblebi<br />

marto hpirdebian, rom gaakeTeben<br />

da gadis wlebi. sami welia<br />

soflebSi gazia Seyvanili da<br />

700 lars sTxoven glexs, saxlSi<br />

rom gadaiyvanos. sada aqvs soflis<br />

macxovrebels 700 lari? an riTi<br />

unda gadaixados gadasaxadi zam-<br />

TarSi, gasaTbobad rom moixmaros<br />

gazi. mTeli tye xom Cinelebs mihyides<br />

da xalxs SeSa veRar moaqvs.<br />

18 weli evaWra ruseTi msoflio<br />

savaWro organizacias, vidre<br />

Tavisi pirobebi ar miaRebina. Cven<br />

ki ise Segvyares, arc ki vicodiT,<br />

ras niSnavda es organizacia. pirveli<br />

rasac ivaniSvili gaakeTebs,<br />

esaa laboratoriebi, raTa ar Semovides<br />

genmodificirebuli da<br />

uxarisxo produqcia.<br />

ar SeiZleba Cvennairma <strong>patara</strong><br />

qveyanam turizmi ekonomikis burjad<br />

warmovidginoT. kargia svane-<br />

Ti, mTa-TuSeTi, romelic ukve gamoacxades<br />

erovnul parkad da male<br />

CamogvaWrian, SemdgomSi isini<br />

gamoiyeneben turizmisaTvis, magram<br />

turizmiT qveyanas ver SevinaxavT.<br />

es mxolod prezidentis survilia,<br />

radgan sofeli mokla da raRac<br />

orientiri xom unda hqondes. Tumca<br />

ekoturizmis nacvlad seqsturizmi<br />

miviReT aWaraSi.<br />

`kavkasia~<br />

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