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#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />
kis SemuSavebas da arc sxva<br />
sferosi.<br />
ivaniSvili ki xalxs<br />
hpirdeba, rom mosaxleobas<br />
eqneba iseTi xelfasi da pensiebi,<br />
rom Tavad SeZleben<br />
Tavis rCenas. misi azriT, pensia<br />
ar unda iyos saarsebo<br />
minimumze naklebi.<br />
xelisuflebis azriT ki<br />
sapensio paketi unda iyos<br />
asi dolaris Sesabamisi. Cem-<br />
Tvis gaugebaria, ratom saubrobs<br />
mTavroba dolarebze,<br />
roca erovnuli valuta aris<br />
lari? an ratom unda iyos<br />
sapensio paketi asi dolaris<br />
Sesabamisi da ara Tavad pensia?<br />
imitom xom ara, rom sapensio<br />
paketSi Seiyvanon<br />
dazRvevac da vauCeric?<br />
saarsebo minimumi is maCvenebelia,<br />
romelsac dRes<br />
mTavroba araferSi ar iyenebs,<br />
ar sWirdeba.<br />
ivaniSvilis gundis dapireba,<br />
rom saarsebo minimumi<br />
dRes orasoc lars Seadgens<br />
da amaze naklebi pensia qveyanaSi<br />
ar unda iyos, ufro realurad<br />
mimaCnia. Tumca, minda<br />
vnaxo maTi programa, rom<br />
am orasoc larianma pensiam<br />
ar gamoiwvios SemdgomSi inflacia<br />
da lari ar gaufasurdes.<br />
-ministrebis Secvla moitans<br />
raime sikeTes?<br />
-araferi ar Secvlila,<br />
moxda mxolod gadaadgileba,<br />
rac Seexeba dasaqmebis ministrs,<br />
is fizikurad ver<br />
moaswrebs winasaarCevno periodSi<br />
raimes gakeTebas imitom,<br />
rom mas sWirdeba sakanonmdeblo<br />
baza da zafxul-<br />
Si ki parlamenti ar muSaobs.<br />
amdenad, es axali posti ministrisa<br />
_ formaluria.<br />
-danarCen `karuselze~ ra<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas?<br />
-SaSkini risi specialistia,<br />
cixeebis, ganaTlebis Tu<br />
Tavdacvis? gaugebaria. rac<br />
Seexeba merabiSvils, is, samwuxarod,<br />
ver iqneba Zlieri<br />
premieri imitom, rom mas daakargvines<br />
kontroli Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa saministroze. misi<br />
ndobiT aRWurvili piri rom<br />
daeniSnaT ministrad, is sakmaod<br />
gaZlierdeboda. baCo axalaiam<br />
ki sakadro cvlilebebi<br />
moaxdina, ramac merabiSvilis<br />
poziciebi Seasusta. vfiqrob,<br />
arc merabiSvilia, imiT bednieri,<br />
rom ase mizanmimarTulad<br />
daungries mTeli sistema,<br />
romliTac is amayobda.<br />
-isic nu dagvaviwdeba,<br />
rom merabiSvilma sistema<br />
aawyo biZina ivaniSvilis SemweobiT<br />
da daxmarebiT.<br />
-diax, es daxmareba iyo da<br />
biujetidanac kargi dafinanseba<br />
hqonda.<br />
-ekonomikuri programa<br />
qveyanas ratom ar gaaCnia?<br />
-imitom, rom erTi kacis<br />
axirebazea yvelaferi damokidebuli.<br />
magaliTad, unda<br />
“lazika” da unda aSendes!<br />
SeiZleba am proeqtze seriozulad<br />
vilaparakoT? cxadia,<br />
ara. xelisuflebas ar aqvs<br />
qveynis ganviTarebis realuri<br />
gegma.<br />
-ras eliT momavali ar-<br />
Cevnebisagan, SeZlebs ki biZina<br />
ivaniSvili qveynis gadar-<br />
Cenas? samwuxaro ar aris is<br />
faqti, rom mas evroparlamentSic<br />
oligarqi uwodes?<br />
-saqme is gaxlavT, rom<br />
seriozuli politikuri TamaSi<br />
mimdinareobs rogorc<br />
CvenSi, ise ucxoeTSi. vidre<br />
ivaniSvili gamoCndeboda,<br />
“TamaSi cal karSi” mimdinareobda,<br />
anu rasac saakaSvili<br />
ityoda, imas apiarebdnen mis<br />
mier Cveni fuliT daqiravebuli<br />
lobistebi. ivaniSvili<br />
ki lobistebs sakuTari xarjebiT<br />
afinansebs. evroparlamentSi<br />
Tu mas oligarqi uwodes,<br />
es dids arafers niSnavs,<br />
mosyiduli da daqiravebuli<br />
xalxi marto saqarTveloSi<br />
xom ar aris?<br />
is, rasac dRes xelisufleba<br />
ivaniSvils ukeTebs,<br />
aris yovelgvari kanondarRveva,<br />
samarTlianobaze ki laparakic<br />
zedmetia. mas qonebis<br />
nawili dauyadaRes, surT<br />
auqcionze gauyidon da a.S.<br />
erTaderTi resursi rac<br />
mas qveyanaSi gaaCnia, es aris<br />
_ qarTveli xalxi, romelsac<br />
ebrZvis saakaSvili! amitom<br />
Tu xalxi moindomebs, qveyanaSi<br />
seriozuli cvlilebebi<br />
iqneba.<br />
me am pirovnebaSi ara imdenad<br />
politikur figuras<br />
vxedav, ramdenadac saqarTvelos<br />
gadarCenis garanti!<br />
uZraoba-aris damyayeba,<br />
moZraoba cvlilebis gareSe<br />
SeuZlebelia, amitom qveyana-<br />
Si unda moxdes siaxle am<br />
cvlilebis realuri saxe<br />
Cveni erisaTvis aris biZina<br />
ivaniSvili da Tu man am ar-<br />
CevnebSi ver gaimarjva, kidev<br />
mraval wels viqnebiT “nacionalur”<br />
uZraobaSi!<br />
eTer<br />
kasreliSvili<br />
gogi TofaZe: is, rac karaleTSi<br />
moxda, cota sxva WrilSi<br />
unda davinaxoT. nebismieri xelisufleba,<br />
iqneba demokratiuli, Tu<br />
avtoritaruli, yovelTvis cdilobs<br />
xalxs Tavi moawonos<br />
motyuebiT, piariT da a.S. Cveni<br />
xelisufleba iseT stadiaSia,<br />
roca mas xalxis azri aRar<br />
ainteresebs. man icis, rom<br />
mxolod daSinebiTa da teroriT<br />
SeiZleba miaRwios sasurvels.<br />
Tumca verafers ver miaRweven.<br />
rodesac xelisufleba<br />
kargavs kontrols sakuTar Tavze<br />
da ignorirebas ukeTebs xalxis<br />
azrs, is, praqtikulad, ganwirulia.<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis“ maisurebi<br />
acviaT da midian yvelanair provokaciaze,<br />
erTi suli aqvT, rogorme<br />
avyveT da mere es gamosvlebi iseve<br />
CaaxrCon sisxlSi,. rogorc 26<br />
maisis, 7 noembris aqciebi. karale-<br />
Tis da mereTis incidentebi imisTvis<br />
gakeTda, rom xalxi daaSinon<br />
da goris aqciaze ar mivides. mag-<br />
ram qarTlelebs ver SeaSineben.<br />
SiSis sindromi moxsnilia. xalxma<br />
dainaxa, rom SeiZleba raRac gveSvelos.<br />
qarTli Cveni qveynis beRelia.<br />
gaxsovT, rogori soflebi iyo,<br />
ramdeni sawarmo da qarxana muSaobda.<br />
axla yvelaferi dangreulia.<br />
rodesac xelisufleba eTanxmeba<br />
Tavisi qveynis ekonomikis dangrevas,<br />
es ukve genocidis tolfasia,<br />
is wiravs mosaxleobas SimSiliT<br />
sikvdilisTvis. Tu ekonomika<br />
ar aris ganviTarebuli, ver ganvi-<br />
Tardeba verc mecniereba, verc<br />
kultura, verc sporti da a.S.<br />
is, rac xdeba saqarTveloSi, gansakuTrebiT<br />
ki soflad, es aris<br />
qarTveli xalxis genocidi.<br />
glexma moiyvana xilis saocari<br />
mosavali da ar icis, sad Caabaros.<br />
ulpeba mosavali. 140-mde<br />
sakonservo qarxana iyo saqarTveloSi.<br />
SeiZleba bevri maTgani ar<br />
iyo Tanamedrove teqnologiebze<br />
damyarebuli, magram magis gakeTebas<br />
ra unda?! Cveni unikaluri gemovnuri<br />
Tvisebebis xili uqmad<br />
lpeba da vaSli argentinidan Semoaqvs<br />
am mTavrobas. Cvens produqcias<br />
klaven, rom viRacas bazari<br />
gauTavisuflon. amiT mosaxleobis<br />
50%-s, romlebic soflad cxovroben,<br />
saarsebo saSualebas uspob.<br />
80-ian wlebSi gorSi aSenda Tanamedrove<br />
xilis gadamamuSavebeli<br />
qarxana da me TviTon gamqonda<br />
germaniaSi qarTuli vaSlis wveni<br />
cisternebiT. kidev undodaT germanelebs<br />
waReba, magram vaSlis<br />
plantaciebi gaiCexa, qarxana ganadgurda.<br />
ase iRupeba ekonomika, razec<br />
dgas qveyana.<br />
Cven erTaderTi qveyana varT,<br />
sadac genmodificirebuli produqcia<br />
ar markirdeba. Cven imdens mivaRwieT,<br />
rom sabaJoze kontroli<br />
movspeT, markireba ar gvaqvs. anu<br />
moiwamleT, mokvdiTo, _ gveubneba<br />
xelisufleba.<br />
Cven <strong>didi</strong> xania vxedavT, rom<br />
ufskrulis piras migviyvana nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam da dRes, qvey-<br />
nis gadarCenis, aRorZinebis Sansi,<br />
romelic gamoCnda aucileblad unda<br />
gamoviyenoT. rezo amaSukeliviT<br />
uSiSrad rom ibrZodes yvela, aseT<br />
mdgomareobaSi ar viqnebodiT.<br />
unda aRorZindes soflis meurneoba<br />
da Sesabamisad aRorZindeba<br />
mrewveloba. mTeli evropa meore<br />
msoflio omis Semdeg aRdga swored<br />
soflis meurneobis<br />
meSveobiT. batoni biZinas<br />
iniciativa soflis meurneobis<br />
aRorZinebis Sesaxeb<br />
pirdapir moipara nacionalebma.<br />
soflis dangreva<br />
daiwyo 96-96<br />
wlebSi. maSin mrewvelebi<br />
bevrs vkamaTobdiT am sakiTxze.<br />
vidre merabiSvili<br />
premierad dainiSneboda,<br />
manamde soflis ganadgurebaze<br />
werdnen nacionalebis<br />
da benduqiZis<br />
eqspertebi. manipulireben<br />
raRac cifrebiT, mohyvaT<br />
magalitebi, rom evropaSi<br />
soflis produqtebi mxolod<br />
7-8% Seadgens. rac<br />
mamali tyuilia. magaliTad SveicariaSi<br />
yvelaze <strong>didi</strong> investiciebi<br />
soflis meurneobaSi ideba, faqtiurad<br />
dotaciazea ayvanili. rogor<br />
gvatyueben ase urcxvad, maSin, roca<br />
mTel msoflioSi cnobilia Sveicariis<br />
yveli da xorci.<br />
ar grcxveniaT, rom gveubnebiT,<br />
sad gayidiT gadamuSavebul nawarmso,<br />
genmodificirebuli iyideba<br />
da qarTuli xili, tomati ar gava?<br />
kitri vietnamidan SemoaqvT da<br />
xaxvi da niori egviptidan, ra Cveni<br />
ar SeiZleba gvqondes?! magram<br />
specialurad mokles qarTuli sofeli.<br />
uperspeqtivos rom uwodeben<br />
sofels, magaze unda moeTxovos<br />
pasuxi da Tu yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />
damTavrda oqtomberSi,<br />
me, piradad, movTxov maT amaze pasauxs.<br />
dRes ra iaponias ar gaaqvs<br />
Cveni mwvanili da mawoni? an ratom<br />
mihyavT arabebs Cveni cxvari,<br />
imitom, rom alpur zonaSi gazrdil<br />
cxvars sxva<br />
monacemebi aqvs.<br />
xorcs ver gavyidoT<br />
Tundac CvenTan? ma-<br />
Sin, roca saRebaviT<br />
gajerebuli Cai da<br />
soioTi savse gadamuSavebuli<br />
xorcis<br />
produqcia Semodis<br />
saqarTveloSi. an kidev<br />
zeTi, romelic<br />
ararafinirebuli<br />
da aTasgvari minarevebiTaa<br />
savse. mzesumziras<br />
miaqvs mTeli<br />
qarTli da kaxe-<br />
Ti. am dros. ra, ar<br />
gvqonda cximkombinati, romelic<br />
zeTsac awarmoebda da karaqsac?!<br />
Cai mokles dasavleT saqarTvelo-<br />
Si, gurulebi da megrelebi dRes<br />
TurqeTSi gadadian plantaciaSi<br />
samuSaod, raRac alternativa mainc<br />
mieciT, rom xalxi aRar gaiqces<br />
qveynidan. im plantaciebis adgilas<br />
simindi gaaSenebine, zeTsaxdeli<br />
auge da aRar dagvWirdeba<br />
sxva qveynidan Semotana, simindis<br />
zeTi xom dRes yvelaze popularulia<br />
msoflioSi.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
benduqiZe wers, rom Zalian cota<br />
miwa gvqonia saqarTveloSi. aba,<br />
ra iqneba, mTeli 15 welia sarwyav<br />
sistemebs angrevdnen da gahqondaT<br />
qveynidan, iseve rogorc xe-tye,<br />
melioracia sruliad mospes.<br />
aba, aRdges es sistemebi Tu<br />
ar gvaqvs saxnav-saTesi an sa-<br />
Zovrebi. Sublis ZarRvi aRar<br />
aqvs am xelisuflebas, atyueben<br />
mosaxleobas da mgoni, miSasac,<br />
is xom azrze ar aris, saerTod,<br />
ra xdeba qveynad.<br />
gamoacxada merabiSvilma, is<br />
xom SedarebiT Wkviani kacia, kargi<br />
menejeri, rom sofeli aris prioritetuli.<br />
axla, naxeT, ra statiebs<br />
dawers is xalxi, romelic er-<br />
Ti Tvis win soflis meurneobis<br />
wamgebianobaze gvesaubrebodnen.<br />
sindisi aRar aqvT.<br />
Tu SevSindiT, maSin aRaraviTari<br />
perspeqtiva aRar gvaqvs, morCeba<br />
saqarTvelo. ukan daxevis Sansi<br />
aRar aris. sasowarkveTilebamdea<br />
misuli raionis mosaxleoba. swored<br />
soflebidan garbis mosaxleoba.<br />
vazi aaCexines, Cai aaCexines,<br />
xils ver yidis da ra unda qnas<br />
qarTvelma glexma, banans xom ar<br />
moiyvans?! erTi <strong>patara</strong> qarxana erT<br />
sofels inaxavs da migracia aRar<br />
xdeba. raWaSi muxis xavss vamzadebdiT,<br />
romelc sunamos fiqsatorad<br />
gamoiyeneba parfiumeriaSi, oqroT<br />
Semodioda valuta. samegreloSi<br />
Jasminis zeTs, vardis zeTs vamzadebdiT.<br />
es yvelaferi ucxoeTSi<br />
gadioda. 14 aseTi qarxana iyo da<br />
30000 kaci iyo dasaqmebuli. yvelaferi<br />
ganadgurda. erTi moiyvaneT<br />
benduqiZe, vekamaTo soflis<br />
aRorZinebaze. biZinaze rom laparakobs,<br />
TviTon rusuli fuliT ar<br />
aris Camosuli?! erTi lari mainc<br />
Tu aqvs daxarjuli qvelmoqmedeba-<br />
Si?!<br />
wyali Zalian bevria saqarTveloSi,<br />
magram sistemaa gasakeTebeli,<br />
rom mosaxleobas hqondes. gamgeblebi<br />
marto hpirdebian, rom gaakeTeben<br />
da gadis wlebi. sami welia<br />
soflebSi gazia Seyvanili da<br />
700 lars sTxoven glexs, saxlSi<br />
rom gadaiyvanos. sada aqvs soflis<br />
macxovrebels 700 lari? an riTi<br />
unda gadaixados gadasaxadi zam-<br />
TarSi, gasaTbobad rom moixmaros<br />
gazi. mTeli tye xom Cinelebs mihyides<br />
da xalxs SeSa veRar moaqvs.<br />
18 weli evaWra ruseTi msoflio<br />
savaWro organizacias, vidre<br />
Tavisi pirobebi ar miaRebina. Cven<br />
ki ise Segvyares, arc ki vicodiT,<br />
ras niSnavda es organizacia. pirveli<br />
rasac ivaniSvili gaakeTebs,<br />
esaa laboratoriebi, raTa ar Semovides<br />
genmodificirebuli da<br />
uxarisxo produqcia.<br />
ar SeiZleba Cvennairma <strong>patara</strong><br />
qveyanam turizmi ekonomikis burjad<br />
warmovidginoT. kargia svane-<br />
Ti, mTa-TuSeTi, romelic ukve gamoacxades<br />
erovnul parkad da male<br />
CamogvaWrian, SemdgomSi isini<br />
gamoiyeneben turizmisaTvis, magram<br />
turizmiT qveyanas ver SevinaxavT.<br />
es mxolod prezidentis survilia,<br />
radgan sofeli mokla da raRac<br />
orientiri xom unda hqondes. Tumca<br />
ekoturizmis nacvlad seqsturizmi<br />
miviReT aWaraSi.<br />
`kavkasia~<br />
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