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5 - 18 Tebervali 2010miSel uelbekimunji kinos xotbaadamiani laparakobs. zogjer arlaparakobs. roca raRac daemuqreba,aiwureba, dapataravdeba da mzerassivrces swrafad mimoavlebs. sasowarkveTisdros moikunteba, saku-Tar tkivils Semoexveva. Tu bednieria,Senelebuli sunTqva aqvs, cxovrebisritmi met gasaqans aZlevs... kacobriobisistoriaSi iyo xelovnebis oridargi _ ferwera da qandakeba _romelic adamianuri gamocdilebissinTezirebas cdilobda, gaqvavebuligamosaxulebebis, SeCerebulimoZraobebis saSualebiT. xandaxan isinimoZraobis Sewyvetas iseT momentSiarCevdnen, roca igi wonasworobis,simSvidis umaRles wertilSi imyofeboda(maradisobasTan Serwymis wams).aseTia yvela suraTi, sadac RvTismSobeliyrmiT aris gamosaxuli. zogjerki erCiaT, moqmedeba iseT drosgaeqvavebinaT, roca ukiduresi daZabulobiszRvars, eqspresiulobismwvervals miaRwevda. es, ra Tqma unda,barokoa da agreTve, fridrixis suraTebi,sadac gayinul afeTqebebs vxvdebiT.xelovnebis es ori dargisaukuneebis ganmavlobaSi viTardebodada dasrulebuli nawarmoebebiciqmneboda, romlebSic yvelaze idumaliCanafiqris _ drois gaCerebis _ganxorcieleba xdeboda SesaZlebeli.kacobriobis istoriaSi arsebobdaiseTi xelovnebac, romlis amocanamoZraobebis Seswavla iyo. is ocdaaTiwlis ganmavlobaSi cocxlobda. 1925 –1930 wlebSi ramdenime kadri, ramdenimefilmi gadaiRes (pirvel rigSi,vgulisxmob murnaus, eizenSteins,dreiers), romlebic am xelovnebisarsebobas amarTleben. Semdeg isgaqra, rogorc Cans, samudamod.Wkebi xmovan signalebs gamoscemen,romlebiTac erTmaneTs scnoben dasafrTxis Sesaxeb afrTxileben. mkvlevarTadakvirvebiT, maT samocamdeaseTi signali aqvT. Wkebi gamonaklisswarmoadgenen. TiTqmis mTeli samyaroSemzarav siCumeSi cxovrobs da moqmedebs,sakuTari Tavis gamoxatvas kiformisa da moZraobis saSualebiTcdilobs. qari balaxs aSrialebs (eizenSteini),cremli saxeze Camodis(dreieri). munji kinos winaSe uzarmazarisivrce iSleboda: es mxolod adamianurigrZnobebis kvleva ar iyo,arc mxolod samyaros CveulimoZraobebis Zieba. misi siRrmiseulisurvili da ambicia aRqmis kanonzomierebebiswvdoma unda yofiliyo. Cveniwarmodgenebis safuZvels xom is gansxvavebaqmnis, rac figurasa da fonsSoris arsebobs, Tumca agreTve – ucnauria,magram mainc – gansxvaveba,romelic figurasa da moZraobas,formasa da misi warmoqmnis processSorisaa. Cveni goni sakuTar gzas eZebssamyaroSi. aqedan modis hipnozuriSegrZneba, romelic uwyveti moZraobisSedegad warmoqmnili gaqvavebuliformis danaxvisas gveufleba, magaliTad,Waobis zedapirze gayinulitalRebis naxvisas.ra darCa 1930 wlis Semdeg? darCakvali, ZiriTadad im reJisorebis SemoqmedebaSi,romlebmac muSaoba munjikinos dros daiwyes (kurosavassikvdili erTi kacis sikvdilze ufrometia), ramdenime gaelveba eqsperimentulfilmebSi, samecniero dokumentalistikaSi,xandaxan seriul produqciaSic(amis magaliTia filmi "avstralia",romelic ramdenime wlis wingamovida). am gaelvebebis amocnobaiolia: sityvis arsebobisTvis adgiliaRar rCeba, musikac ki kiCis STabeWdilebastovebs, TiTqos mZimea, odnavvulgaruli. Cven mTlianad aRqmadvarT gadaqceulebi, samyaro imanenturobaSiwarmogvidgeba. Cven bednierebivarT, ucnaurad bednierebi.aseTi SegrZnebebi mxolod maSin Cndeba,roca Seyvarebuli xar.sapensio asakisSemcireba_ odesRac kulturul RonisZiebaTaorganizatorebad vmuSaobdiTsxvadasxva kurortze. fuls imisTvisgvixdidnen, rom xalxi gagverTo, angvecada mainc. mogvianebiT, daqorwinebulebi(ufro xSirad ki, ganqorwinebulebi)isev nacnob kurortebsvubrundebodiT, amjerad damsveneblebad.axalgazrdebi _ sxva axalgazrdebi_ Cvens garTobas cdilobdnen.Cven ki, gasarTobad, seqsualurikavSiris damyarebas vcdilobdiTmomsaxure personalis zogierTwevrTan (xan yofil kult-organizatorebTan,xan – ara). drodadro warmatebasvaRwevdiT, ufro xSirad kiyvelaferi marcxiT mTavrdeboda.didad verc verTobodiT. dRes ki Cvenscxovrebas aranairi azri aRara aqvs,_ daaskvna kulturul RonisZiebaTayofilma organizatorma.wiTeli zRvis sanapiroze, safaga-Si, 1995 wels aSenebuli sastumro “HolidayInn Resort” damsveneblebs 327 komfortuloTaxsa da 6 uzarmazar luqsssTavazobs. aqve unda vaxsenoT didiholi, “coffee-shop”, restorani, plaJisrestorani, diskoTeka da terasa, sadacgasarTobi RonisZiebebi imarTeba.sastumros savaWro centrSi sxvadasxvamaRazias, banks, silamazis salonsnaxavT. gasarTob RonisZiebebssimpaTiuri frangul-italiurijgufi marTavs (cekvis saRamoebi,mravalferovani TamaSebi). mokled,turistuli saagentos erTi Tanam-Sromlis gamoTqma rom gavimeoroT,"mTlianobaSi, SesaniSnavi situaciaa"._ sapensio asaks ormocdaTxuTmetwlamde Tu Seamcireben, _ ganagrZokulturul RonisZiebaTa yofilmaorganizatorma, _ am gadawyvetilebasturizmis sferoSi dasaqmebulebisixaruliT Sexvdebian. Znelia, Semosavlianigaxado iseTi sakurorto sastumroebi,romlebsac damsveneblebimxolod sezonurad, mcire xniT stumroben,ZiriTadad, zafxulSi an saSobaoardadegebis dros. ra Tqma unda,kargi iqneba, Tu Carteruli reisebisorganizeba moxerxdeba axladgamomcxvaripensionerebisTvis, romlebic,amave dros, Semcirebuli tarifebiTisargebleben, es yvelaferi ki maT uwyvetnakads uzrunvelyofs. meuRlisgardacvalebis Semdeg pensioneribavSvis mdgomareobaSi imyofeba:jgufTan erTad mogzaurobs, aucilebladvinmes umegobrdeba. zogadad,biWebi mxolod biWebTan TamaSoben daliteraturuli gazeTigogoebsac sxva gogoebTan laqlaqiurCevniaT, magram pensionerebi yvelasTansiamovnebiT urTierToben, sqesisganurCevlad. sinamdvileSi kiorazrovan miniSnebebs sakmaod xSiradmimarTaven, arc qveteqstebiTsaubars eridebian, zogjer maTi sityvieriavxorcoba pirdapir gamaognebelixdeba. aRniSvnas imsaxurebsisic, rom rogori mZime da mtanjvelicar unda iyos Tavis droze, mogvianebiTseqss mainc sinanuliT ixseneben.am Temas mudam nostalgiuri Seferilobismqone variaciebiT ubrundebian.ase, saubrisas umegobrdebian erTmaneTsorni an samni. mere erTad wavlenda valutis mimdinare kurss gaigeben,momdevno eqskursiasac erToblivaddagegmaven. odnav moxrili, mokleTmianipensionerebi gnomebs hgvanan– anCxlsa Tu gulkeTil arsebebs,xasiaTebis Sesabamisad. maTi gamZleobada amtanoba, ubralod, gasaocaria,_ daaskvna bolos kulturul RonisZiebaTayofilma organizatorma._ me vityodi, rom yvelas Taviseburadswams da yvela religias pativiunda vceT, _ uadgilod CaeriasaubarSi dilis gamamxnevebeli varji-Sis instruqtori. amiT Seuracxyofilmaeqs-organizatorma mtanjvelsiCumes Seafara Tavi. is ormocda-Tormeti wlis gaxldaT, ianvris miwurulski yvelaze axalgazrda damsvenebelTaSoris aRmoCeniliyo. sxva-Ta Soris, namdvili pensioneri arcyofila, pensiaze gasvlas apirebda TuTanxmobas eloda, rom naadrevadgasuliyo. yvelas turistul biznesSigarkveul eqs-profesionalad gaecnoda saboloo jamSi, kargi STabeWdilebadatova kulturul RonisZiebaTaorganizatorebis jgufze. "senegalSi"klub medi" pirvelma me gavxseni," –uyvarda xolme gameoreba. mere simReraswamoiwyebda da waicekvebdakidec: "Tavze davimxob se-ne-gaaals,iq ra gamolevs lamaz qaaaals". erTisityviT, magari tipi iyo. miuxedavadamisa, saerTod ar gamkvirvebia, rocameore diliT misi gvami ipoves, sastumrosauzis kamkama wyalSi motivtive.ra ginda aq?pirveli pornografiuli videosalonis"fenomenaluri warmatebis"Semdeg, Samperes sagamofeno centrSimeorec gaixsna. moedanze gamosvlisTanaveqalma, visi saxec ver davixsome,raRac broSura SemomaCeCa.gamolaparakeba vcade, magram is im aqtivistebispatara jgufs SeuerTda,romlebic gasaTbobad erT adgilzextunaven da broSurebis dastebs afrialeben.qalis mocemul furcelzemsxvili SriftiT weria: "ra ginda aq?"CasasvlelTan mivdivar. es sagamofenocentri miwisqveS aris ganTavsebuli.uzarmazar sivrceSi ori eskalatorinela miraxraxebs. kacebi TiTo-TiTodan patara jgufebad Camodian. es yvelaferisavaWro centr "dartis"ufro mogagonebT, vidre miwisqveS Semalulgaryvnilebis taZars. ramdenimesafexuris Cavlis Semdeg Zirsdagdebul katalogs viReb. ras vxedav:"Cargo VPC” _ sazogadoeba, romelicpornografiuli videofilmebiskasetebs yidis da fostiT agzavnis.marTlac, ra minda aq?broSuris kiTxvas metroSi viwyeb,iqidan dabrunebis mere. "pornografiaSeni tvinis ujredebs xrwnis," – am sa-Tauris qveS aseT dasabuTebas vxedavT:seqsualuri gadaxrebis mqone yveladamnaSaves: moZaladeebs, pedofilebsda a.S. saxlSi uamravi pornografiulikaseta upoves. "rogorc mecnieruligamokvlevebi gviCvenebs", pornofilmebisgamudmebuli yureba realobasada fantazias Soris zRvariswaSlas iwvevs, survilidan moqmedebazegadasvlas aiolebs da amave dros"tradiciuli seqsualuri praqtikis"Targmani 15mimzidvelobas erTianad spobs."ras fiqrobT amaze?" – SekiTxvamanamde gavigone, sanam mosaubres davinaxavdi.Cems win mokleTmiani axalgazrdadgas, Wkviani, odnav Sewuxebulikacis gamometyvelebiT. am drosmatarebeli gamoCnda, ramac gaocebisgangamosarkvevad cota dro momca.wlebis manZilze quCaSi siarulisassakuTar Tavs vekiTxebodi, odesme Tudadgeboda is dRe, roca vinme gamomelaparakeboda– ra Tqma unda, fulissaTxovnelad ara. ai, es dRec gaTendada amisTvis meore pornografiulivideosalonis gaxsna gaxda saWiro.Tavidan isic pornografiiswinaaRmdeg mebrZoli aqtivisti megona,magram aRmoCnda, rom vcdebodi.sinamdvileSi, es kaci swored im salonidanmodioda. iq Sevida da racnaxa, saerTod ar moewona: "mxolodkacebi... raRac mxecuri SeimCneodamaT gamoxedvaSi, maT TvalebSi". mevewinaaRmdegebi da vuxsni, rom Sesa-Zloa Zlierma survilma saxe mTlianadSecvalos, daZabuli, gamxecebuli adamianisgamometyveleba misces. ara, manes kargad icis da surviliTgamowveul mxecur ierze ki ar laparakobs,aramed namdvil, mxecur gamxecebaze:"am kacebis garemocvaSi aRmovCndi...(Cans, es mogoneba maincdamTrgunvelia), kasetebze Caweriligaupatiurebebi, sadisturi scenebi...isini iseTi aRgznebulebi iyvnen... ise-Ti gamoxedva hqondaT... da is atmosferoc..."vusmen, ambis dasasruls velodebi."mgonia, rom yvelaferi Zaliancudad damTavrdeba", _ daaskvna uceb,sanam metrosadgur "operasTan" gavidoda.didi xnis Semdeg saxlSi moulodnelad"Cargo VPC"-s katalogs gadavawydi."sodomi TineijerebisTvis" _ amfilmSi vixilavT "frankfurtul sosisebspatara xvrelebSi, ravioliviTgamotenil gogoebs, seqss pomidvrissawebelSi". filmi "Zmebi _ eak ¹ 6" warmogvidgens"takunebis specialistrokos, gaparsul qerebs, svel briunetebs.roko nebismier anuss vulkanadgadaaqcevs, raTa Sig Tavisi mduRarelava CaRvaros". kidev erTi filmis,"gaupatiurebuli bozebis" reziumenamdvilad imsaxurebs imas, rom aq bolomdemoviyvanoT: "xuT ulamazesbozs sadistebi scemen, aupatiureben,analur seqss aiZuleben. amaoa maTiwinaaRmdegoba, brWyalebis gamoCena.sabolood maT mainc cemiT miasikvdileben,cocxal unitazebadaqceven". amgvari teqstebiTaa savsemTeli samoci gverdi. unda vaRiaro,rom amas namdvilad ar velodi. cxovrebaSipirvelad amerikeli feministebismimarT erTgvari simpaTiac kigamiCnda. ramdenime wlis win axalimoduri mimdinareobis – trash-is Sesaxebgavige da sulelurad CavTvale,rom isev bazris axali segmentisaTvisebaze saubrobdnen. "ekonomistissibece", _ ase axsna meore dRes Cemmamegobarma anJelma, romelic qvewarmavalTamimikriis Sesaxeb sadoqtorodisertaciis avtoria. sinamdvileSi ammovlenis fesvebi gacilebiT Rrmadaris Cazrdili. "sakuTar mamakacurZlierebaSi dasarwmuneblad kacs ubraloSewyvileba aRar akmayofilebs, _Semtevi ieriTa da mxiaruli gamometyvelebiTwarmoTqvams Cemi megobari,_ sinamdvileSi is grZnobs,rom mis SesaZleblobebs mudmivadafaseben, gansjian, sxva kacebisasadareben. am usiamovno SegrZnebisganTavis dasaRwevad da siamovnebis misaRebadaucilebeli gaxda, partniorsxeli Semoartyas, Seuracxyos, daamciros,agrZnobinos, rom mTlianadmisi Zalauflebis qveSaa. sxvaTa Soris,es movlena TandaTan ukve qalebTanacSeiniSneba," – RimiliT aRniSnavs is."maS, dagverxa", _ vambob ori wuTisSemdeg. ho, isic ase fiqrobs. rogorcCans, marTla dagverxa.Targmna irma taveliZem