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mTeli saxelmwifo CamoSala~
manurobaze saubroben. madloba,
batonebo, aseTi humanurebi
rom xarT. humanuroba xom daibrales
da arc gmirobaze
Tqves uari. meubnebian, galdava
gmiriao. samxareo policiis
ufrosi mZevlad Cabarda mZarcvels
da gmiri ranairadaa?
ar mesmis.
mere ra Tu mZevlebi Caanacvla.
araa es gmiroba. gmiroba
iqneboda is, rom damnaSave gaeneitralebinaT.
fuls Tu
aZlev da uSveb, maSin ra ginda
saerTod policiaSi? am saqar-
TveloSi yvelafris profanacia
moxda da axla gmirobis
profanaciis jeri dadga.
am bedovlaTebma isic ki ar
ician, ras niSnavs gmiroba. uyure
Sen! _ mTeli Casvrili policia
mivida teroristTan da
manac gaaTavisufla mZevlebi.
da ramxela gmiria galdava!
_ imis Tqma gindaT, rom ar
unda Canacvleboda galdava
mZevlebs?
_ unda Canacvleboda da amas
gmirobas nu eZaxian! kacs garantia
hqonda, fuli momitaneT
da uvneblad gagiSvebo da
ase Caenacvla mZevlebs.
_ Tqven raRac nametani
radikaluri xarT.
_ araa es radikalizmi. Tqven
iciT, ra aris kontrteroristuli
specoperacia? es iseTi
operaciaa, rodesac terorists
ki ar uSveb, aramed akaveb
an aneitraleb da mZevlebs aTavisufleb.
aseTi operaciis
Catareba policiis pirdapiri
movaleobaa. ase rom, gmirobis
aqeT-iqiT miniWebas Tavi daanebon
da saqmes mixedon. garda
imisa, rom im mZarcvelma saxelmwifo
dagvamxo Tavze, Zalian
cud precedents Cauyara
safuZveli da amis gagrZelebas
male vnaxavT.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ daiwyeba bankebis Zarcva.
_ ase iolia bankis Zarcva?
_ zugdidSi momxdarma dagvanaxa,
rom rTuli ar aris.
axla nebismier kriminals Seu-
Zlia bankSi Sesvla, mZevlebis
ayvana da maTi ganTavisuflebis
sanacvlod Tanxis moTxovna.
miva policia, Tanxas gadascems
da mZevlebsac gauSveben,
policias ki gmirs uwodeben.
da viyoT ase Zarcvidan Zarcvamde?
araa gmiroba, policieli
rom mZevlad Cabardebi da
arc policielis saqmea es.
_ Tu mZevlebs unda Canacvlebodnen,
pirveli gigi ugu-
lava gaiqaCa, me Cavencvlebi
mZevlebso.
_ gigi ugulavazec nu gamakeTebinebT
komentars. arc magaze
minda saubari.
_ ugulavaze ratom ar gin-
daT saubari?
_ imitom, rom eg da gomelauri
CemTvis erTi da igivea.
ase davamTavroT ugulavaze
saubari. gadareuli var am
gmirobis iqiT-aqeT trialiT.
_ ufro gamwarebuli xarT,
`meubnebian, galdava gmiriao. samxareo policiis ufrosi mZevlad Cabarda
mZarcvels da gmiri ranairadaa? ar mesmis. mere ra Tu mZevlebi Caanacvla.
araa es gmiroba. gmiroba iqneboda is, rom damnaSave gaeneitralebinaT.
fuls Tu aZlev da uSveb, maSin ra ginda saerTod policiaSi? am
saqarTveloSi yvelafris profanacia moxda da axla gmirobis profanaciis
jeri dadga~
vidre gadareuli.
_ aba, ra iqneba?! SeviSmuSne,
roca policielebis gmirobaze
daiwyes saubari. rogor Sei-
Zleba, galdavas ritorikas da
qcevas gmiroba vuwodoT?
sircxvilia es! saqarTveloSi
gmiroba sul sxva rame! am qveyanas
msofliosTvis cnobili
gmirebi hyavda.
_ am qveyanas gmirebi marT-
la arasdros aklda.
_ am gmirebis fonze samxareo
policiis ufrosis gmirobaze
saubari cota sasaciloa,
satirali rom ar iyos. vici,
Cems gancxadebebs mwvave reaqcia
mohyveba, magram ar mainteresebs.
visac ra unda, is Tqvas
Cemze. qarTvelTa gmirobas
sul sxvanairad vuyureb, vidre
gomelauri da biZina.
_ ise, rogorc amboben, zug-
didis operacia gomelaurma
ase biZina ivaniSvilis miTiTe-
biT Caatarao. amaze ras
ityviT?
_ hi-hi-hi! amaze gavicineb da
mets arafers vityvi, sxva arc
araferia saTqmeli.
_ irakli kobaxiZis agresi-
ulobazec arafers gvetyviT?
roca am Temaze dausves kiTx-
va, wyobidan gamovida.
_ rogor moixseniebT xolme
kobaxiZes socilur qselSi, _
„avi irakla” ara? es „avi irakla”
iseTi sayvarelia, rom televizorSi
Tu ar gamoCnda, is
dRe dakargulad mimaCnia. „av
iraklaze” galaktionis erTi
leqsi maxsendeba: „rac ufro
Sors xar, miT ufro vtkbebi”.
ra unda vilaparako am adami-
`rogor moixseniebT xolme kobaxiZes socilur
qselSi, - `avi irakla~ ara? es `avi irakla~
iseTi sayvarelia, rom televizorSi Tu ar
gamoCnda, is dRe dakargulad mimaCnia. `av
iraklaze~ galaktionis erTi leqsi maxsendeba:
`rac ufro Sors xar, miT ufro vtkbebi~
anze?!
_ es adamiani ambobs, rom
saqarTveloSi kriminali mo-
matebuli araao.
_ amis Tqma axla samarcxvinoa.
amasTan dakavSirebiT
gancxadebiT mivmarTe premir
gaxarias. rogorc „avi irakla”
ambobs, Turme Cven unda davicvaT
mTavrobis meTauri provokatori
Jurnalistebisgan,
romlebic mas kiTxvebs usvamen
da nervebs uSlian. warmoidgineT,
Turme premieri Jurnalistebisgan
aris dasacavi.
_ es Zalian sasaciloa.
_ ufro satiralia, vidre _
sasacilo.
_ Tqven gaixseneT gaxaria
da misi Ss ministrobis perio-
di momagonda: „gavrilovis
Rames” axalgazrdebs Tvalebi
dasTxares da maT winaaRmdeg
daTvis tyviebi gamoiyenes! ma-
Sin ratom ar iyo policia hu-
manuri?
_ imitom ar iyo maSin policia
humanuri, rom rusTavelze
uiaraRo xalxTan hqonda saqme,
erTma iaraRianma kacma ki mTel
xelisuflebas Caasvelebina.
aqedanac Cans mTavrobis humanuroba.
wlebia, am mTavrobas
veubnebi, rom savsea specsamsaxurebi
wina xelisuflebis
kadrebiT. vafrTxilebdi, es
kadrebi dagangreven SignidanmeTqi,
magram yuri ar migdes.
imis magivrad, rom Canergilebis
winaaRmdeg emoqmedaT, me gadamekidnen
da ai, Sedegi!
_ iyo aseTi versia, rom es
vano merabiSvilma gaaCaliCa.
_ vanom dagegma es Zarcva da
me viyavi mTavari rolis Semsrulebeli.
samarcxvinoa amis
laparaki. barem, megis qardavaze
eTqvaT, teroristi is iyoo.
mTeli guliT vulocav
mZevlebs, rom mSvidobianad
gamovidnen. am briyvi xelisuflebis
pirobebSi mZevlebi
rom gadarCnen, es marTla didi
miRwevaa. is teroristic kargad
moiqca, rom mZevlebi ar
gawira. irakli kobaxiZe xom amazrzeni
iyo, roca medias da-
esxa Tavs, magram aranakleb amazrzeni
iyo Tavdasxma mZevlebze.
sad gagonila, rom xelisufeba
mZevals esxmodes Tavs?!
mZevlebs Soris iyo „nacionaluri
moZraobis” mxardamWeri
irakli kvaracxelia. rogorc
ki misi vinaoba gasajarovda,
atexes erTi ambavi da lan-
ZRes es adamiani. viRacebma isic
Tqves, raki kvaracxeliaa
mZevlebs Soris, maSin am procesebs
saakaSvili akontrolebs
ukrainidano. idgnen xelisuflebis
mxardamWerebi da
mTeli dRe feisbuqze miSas aginebdnen.
mivmarTav „ocnebis”
mxardamWerebs: miSas ginebiT
da ZagebiT biZinas ver auwevT
reitings da verc _ murusiZes.
_ ras fiqroben am yve-
laferze zugdidlebi?
_ zugdidlebi ras ityvian?
am qalaqis gakvirveba Zalian
Znelia, bevri ramis momswrea
zugdidi, ra aRar gadaitana,
magram amas veravin daiviwyebs,
maT Soris, mec. yvela am ambis
Tanamonawile var da vgrZnob,
rogor ganicdis Cemi qalaqi.
roca zugdidSi raRac xdeba,
es CemTvis didi tkivilia.
imis magivrad rom samarTlianoba
aRedgina, xelisuflebam
kidev erTxel Seuracxyo
zugdidlebi. arada, xalxi
eloda, rom saakaSvilis wasvlis
Semdeg „qarTuli ocneba”
samegrelosa da Cems qalaqs
iarebs mouSuSebda. samwuxarod,
maT Wrilobaze marili
daayares zugdidlebs.
_ rogorc zugdideli, ra
rCevas miscemdiT „qarTul
ocnebas”?
_ amaT araadekvatur qcevebsa
da gancxadebebs rom vuyureb,
yovelgvari rCevis micemis
xalisi miqreba. ginda, amaTTvis
migicia rCeva da ginda, kedlisTvis
Segiyria cercvi. rCevebs,
rogorc wesi, xelisuflebas
aZleven xolme. „qarTuli
ocneba” xelisuflebaa? cxadia,
_ ara. yvelafris miuxedavad,
unda vTqva, rom am xelisuflebam
veraferi gaakeTa. mixeil
saakaSvili datova, rogorc
politikuri lideri da amiT
gaanadgura sakuTari qveyana.
xolo vinaa saakaSvili, es yvelam
kargad icis. kidev erTxel
mivmarTav „ocnebas” da vetyvi,
rom saakaSvilis ZagebiT Tqven
Tavs ver gaiTeTrebT. am dReebSi
„mTavarma” arxma da nika
gvaramiam seriozuli masalebi
moipoves. me mainteresebs, Tu
rogor moipoves maT es masalebi
da rogor gaaSiSvles xelisufleba
da ras apirebs xelisufleba
arCevnebSi?
_ ra kadrebze saubrobT,
policielebi rom gaxdnen ag-
itatorebi?
_ diax. mainteresebs, saidan
moipova es kadrebi „mTavarma”?
agvixsnas „ocnebam”. me ki vici,
saidanac wamovida. veubnebodi,
rom ZalovnebSi Canergilebi
Signidnen daSlidnen „ocnebas”.
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