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daagrova, bolo centamde dakargavs!~
_ e. i., im reitingebSi, rom-
lebic dRemde gasajarovda,
Tqveni monacemebi gayalbebu-
lia?
_ Tqven, ra, sxvanairad
fiqrobT?
_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs, me
rogor vfiqrob. ubralod,
Tqveni azri mainteresebs.
_ aba, ra aris, xalxo! es xom
anekdotia! xom viciT, es reitingebi
20 welia, visi xeliTac iwereba.
_ im dros, roca TanamSrom-
lobT, romelime opoziciur
flangs Tqveni reitingis gayal-
beba raSi unda awyobdes?
_ qarizmatuli lideris
Zalian eSiniaT!
_ SeiZleba, adre eSinodaT,
magram axla igive saakaSvilTan
urTierToba xom dalagebuli
gaqvT?
_ droebiTi interesia, rom
ivaniSvili movaciloT, Torem
Cveni winaaRmdegobebi, ra Tqma
unda, ZalaSi darCa!
_ Tqveni monacemebiT, lei-
boristebis realuri reitingi
rogoria?
_ saakaSvili da „mTavari arxi”
rom micxadebs, erTi, ori da sami
namdvilad araa.
_ hoda, ramdenia?
_ 40-ic araa, magram orsa da
samzec metia. amitom namusi unda
iqonion.
_ kargi, kiTxvas svanairad
davsvam: meaTe mowvevis parla-
mentSi leiboristuli partia,
maqsimum, ramdeni deputatiT
iqneba warmodgenili?
_ amis Tqma Znelia... yovel SemTxvevaSi,
imden mandats vvaraudobT,
rom uCvenod koaliciuri
mTavroba ver Seiqmnas, anu sakontrolo
paketi Cven unda gveWiros,
rom oligarqebma saqarTvelo
axal parlamentSic ar waiRon!
_ batono Salva, gamoricxavT,
rom romelime opoziciuri partia
garigebaze wavides da „oc-
nebas” saparlamento koalicia
Seuqmnas, raTa ivaniSvilis gun-
dma mTavrobis dakompleqteba
SeZlos?
_ gamoricxva, ra Tqma unda,
arafris SeiZleba, Tumca dRevandeli
viTarebidan gamomdinare,
politikur micvalebulTan garigebaze
aravin unda wavides, Tu
TviTonac politikuri micvalebuloba
ar unda! me ase vfiqrob
da darwmunebuli var, asec iqneba.
sxvaTa Soris, am dReebSi oficialur
valdebulebas aviRebT,
rom „ocnebas” koalicias ar SevuqmniT!
_ imis valdebulebasac xom
ar aiRebT, rom koalicias arc
„nacmoZraobas” SeuqmniT?
_ „nacionaluri moZraoba”
isec koaliciis wevri iqneba.
_ ra amis pasuxia da, sazogadoebisTvis
erTgvari moulod-
neloba iyo, rom Tqvens vaJs,
rogorc maJoritarobis kandi-
dats, „evropulma saqarTvelom”
mxari dauWira. erTmaneTTan mis-
asvleli gzebi rogor moZebneT?
_ (gulianad icinis) beqas sxva
partiebic uWeren mxars.
_ SeiZleba, magram beqa mcxe-
Ta-mTianeTis
maJoritarad
pirdapir daviT baqraZem warad-
gina...
_ Zalian didi madlobeli var,
rom zogierTiviT konkurentad
oligarqis kandidatura ar daayenes
da beqas dauWires mxari. nepotisturad
ki ar vambob, aramed
momavali am Taobisaa da yvelam
unda dauWiros mxari.
_ geTanxmebiT, rom momavali
axali Taobisaa, magram saakaSvi-
lis msgavsad, bokeriasTanac
yovelTvis politikuri diskom-
forti gqondaT da axla rogor
„dalagdiT”?
_ diskomforti „nacmoZraobasTan”
rom mqonda, iseTi sad
yofila, magram axla is moxda,
rom erTmaneTTan brZolis dro
araa. Tu gvinda, rom biZina ivaniSvili
davamarcxoT, unda viTanamSromloT.
sxva SemTxvevaSi putini
da ivaniSvili mravali aTeuli
weli aq mmarTvelebad darCebian!
Cven ki erTmaneTs davWamT,
amiT guls movifxanT da Sedegi
N26 (328) 27.10-.2.11.2020 w.
`parlamentTan Sekrebil axalgazrdebs Tvalebs Txrian, bankSi Sevardnil
mZarcvelebs ki `paCotiT~ acileben da erT `drons~ ar ayoleben, rom
gaigon, es fuli sad waiRo. es xom saxelmwifo ar aris?!~
araferi iqneba!
_ batono Salva, saubris Temas
Sevcvli da saarCevno pro-
gramaze gkiTxavT, anu acxadebT,
rom Tu xelisflebaSi moxvediT,
sajaro moxeleebs aukrZalavT,
Svilebi kerZo skolebSi ataron.
komunizms ar vaSenebeT da saja-
ro moxeleebis Svilebs kerZo
skolaSi siaruli ra motiviT
unda aukrZaloT?
_ aSS-is prezidentebis biografias
gadaxedeT _ yvela maTganis
Svili swored sajaro skolebSi
dadioda.
_ ki batono, magram es nebay-
oflobiTi gadawyvetileba iyo.
_ Tanamdebobis piris Svili
xalxTan erTad unda izrdebodes
da ara _ gamoketil pansionatSi
fufunebiT. ai, aseT drosaa politikosi
xalxis msaxuri. ra, ar
SemeZlo, rom Cemi Svilebi kerZo
skolaSi mimeyvana?
_ SegeZloT?
_ ra problema iyo, magram Cveulebrivi
sajaro skola daamTavres,
rac Zalian kargia _ xalxi
`is oTxi iligarqi, romelic siaSi Caweres,
swored vanos miTreulia. am kandidaturebis
siaSi Cawera biZinasTan SeTanxmebulia, Torem
aqamde binebs aufeTqebdnen. biZinas koaliciuri
mTavrobisTvis erTi xmac rom daakldes, ai,
mowinaaRmdege partiidan oTxi xma ukve aqvs.
qarTul politikaSi vanos roli sul esaa~
uyvarT. mokled, Tu Tanamdebobis
piri Svils kerZo skolaSi Seiyvans,
es misi ufleba iqneba, Tumca
Tanamdebobaze veRar darCeba!
_ sxvaTa Soris, imasac gvpi-
rdebiT, rom Tu xelisuflebaSi
moxvalT, skolebSi moswavleebs
ufaso kveba eqnebaT.
_ diax, aucileblad ase iqneba,
radgan ver davuSvebT, rom
mozard Taobas an inteleqtualuri
sakvebi akldes an _ fizikuri,
rac TiToeuli maTganis
zrdisa da ganviTarebis garantiaa.
amitom keTils inebebs Cveni
maRalxelfasiani elita, yvelafer
amas moiklebs da bavSvebs
dReSi erTxel ufaso kveba eqnebaT.
sxvaTa Soris, asakSi sakvebi
mavnebelia. amitom am gaqsuebulma
Ripianebma moiklon da ulufa
bavSvebs gadascen!
_ esec, raRacnairad, sabWoTa
iniciativaa. yovel SemTxvevaSi,
maxsovs, skolaSi talonebs
gvirigebdnen. e. w. saskolo tal-
onebi Tqveni mowafeobisasac
iqneboda, ara?
_ ara, Cems dros talonebi ar iyo,
Tumca saaxalwlod da aseT dReebSi
gemriel kanfetebs gvaZlevdnen. es
komunisturi modeli araa.
_ aba, rogori modelia?
_ kapitalisturi. ai, magali-
Tad, gaxurebuli omis dros es
modeli fineTSi SemoiRes da
mere mTel evropaSi gavrcelda.
sxvaTa Soris, aSS-Sicaa, Tumca iq
bavSvebs baraTi aqvT da sakvebs
am baraTiT iReben. zogis baraTi
ufasoa, SeZlebuli ojaxis Svilebis
ki _ fasiani, magram aravin
icis, vin ufaso baraTiT sargeblos
da vin _ fasianiT, radgan
bavSvebSi socialuri uTanasworobis
sindromi ar gaCndes.
_ erTi sityviT, batono Sal-
va, varaudobT, rom 20-wliani
taim-autis Semdeg „leiboris-
tuli partia” sakanonmdeblo
organoSi dabrundeba, ara?
_ eWvi geparebaT, rom 20-
wliani gandevnis Semdeg saparlamento
partia vxdebiT?
_ ara, eWvi ar mepareba, magram
parlamentSi dabrunebis Semdeg
pirvelad ras gaakeTebT?
_ bavSvebis ufaso kveba skolebSi!
_ ai, magaliTad, qveyanaSi mZime
kriminogenuri viTarebis ga-
mosasworeblad ra nabijebs
gadadgamT?
_ koaliciuri mTavroba yvela
struqturas ise mixedavs, rogorc
saxelmwifos ekadreba da
ara _ ise, rogorc axla xdeba.
_ axla rogor xdeba?
_ parlamentTan Sekrebil axalgazrdebs
Tvalebs Txrian,
bankSi Sevardnil mZarcvelebs ki
„paCotiT” acileben da erT
„drons” ar ayoleben, rom gaigon,
es fuli sad waiRo. es xom saxelmwifo
ar aris?!
_ sxvaTa Soris, Sss-m 25 oq-
tombers ganacxada, rom bankze
Tavdamsxmeli identificirebu-
li da dadgenilia...
_ axla kargi droa... aqamde
grelandiaSi Cavidoda!
_ ise, batono Salva, rogorc
iurists, xom ar ggoniaT, rom
zugdidSi bankis warcvas erTg-
varad politikuri sarCuli
hqonda?
_ araviTari politikuri sar-
Culi. amis mizezi qveyanaSi arsebuli
socialur-ekonomikuri
katastrofaa. mosaxleoba ga-
Ratakebuli, depresiaSia Cavardnili
da zogi kriminalis gzaze
dadga!
_ hoda, is, rac zugdidSi mox-
da, iqneb, ise unda ganvixiloT,
rogorc „ocnebaze” SurisZieba?
_ ara, ara... ubralod, arCevnebis
win yvela problema feTqdeba.
_ im SemTxvevaSi, Tu „ocneba”
arCevnebs waagebs, Tqveni Sefase-
biT, ivaniSvils ra elis?
_ pasuxi unda agos da moparuli
moitanos! saerTod, Zalian
bevri moipara _ aqedan warmoudgeneli
raodenobis simdidre
gazida.
_ sxvaTa Soris, „vardebis revoluciis”
Semdeg xelisufleba-
Si mosulma „nacmoZraobam” SevardnaZes
xelSeuxeblobis garantia
misca. axlac igive sce-
nari xom ar gaTamaSdeba?
_ ara, ra sisulelea! amis
winaaRmdegi yovelTvis viqnebi.
SevardnaZe politikuri figura
iyo da sxva borotmoqmedebebi
epatia, magram es pirdapir kriminaluri
figuraa.
_ ar dagaviwydeT, rom es ad-
amiani partiis Tavmjdomarea.
_ partia SeiZleba, bavSvebis
mkvlelmac daaregistriros, magram
es arafers niSnavs.
_ e. i., „evropuli saqarTvelos”
inciativas, rom xelisu-
flebis Secvlis Semdeg yofili
maRalCinosnebi ar unda gasa-
marTldnen, ar iziarebT?
_ „evropuli saqarTvelo” liberaluri
mimdinareobis partiaa
da mis ideologiaSi es jdeba, magram
mjera, rom Cven msgavsad,
saxelmwifoebriv sakiTxebs meti
pasuxismgeblobiT miudgeba.
_ bolos, batono Salva,
arCevnebamde ramdenime dRiT
adre xalxTan saTqmeli ra
gaqvT?
_ mogveciT xma, momavali Tqvenia!
_ warmatebebs gisurvebT!
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