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giorgi abaSiZe294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com„SegaxsenebT 2012 wels... gaixseneT, ra xdeboda winasaar-Cevno periodSi, gaixseneT saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis aqti-uroba... gancxadeba gancxadebaze da mowodebebi xelisuflebisgadabarebis Sesaxeb. gaixseneT hilari klintonis winasaar-Cevno viziti da im mcire komentarebSi, rasac akeTebda imdReebSi, ramdenjer gaiJRera xelisuflebis gadabarebam.`qarTulma ocnebam~ra xdeba dRes?! _ gsmeniaTvinmesgan mowodeba xelisuflebisgadabarebis Sesaxeb?! _ara! araTu mowodeba, sadamkvirveblomisiac ki ar Camodispandemiis momizezebiT. gaiazreT,es raze metyvelebs! ivani-Svili arsad „wasvlas” ar apirebsda is uazro isteria, TiTqos„ocneba” „sruldeba”, arisfarsi, siyalbe da TvalebSi nacrisSeyra!arsebul politikur klass,e. w. 30-wlian politikosebs, arSeswevT Zala, moerion ivaniSvils!maT amowures politikuriresursi da rac yvelazecudia, maT ar surT amis gacnobierebada jiutad cdilobendarCnen politikur scenaze,magram es mxolod drois ambavia!dro ki Cven winaaRmdeg,xalxis winaaRmdeg moqmedebs!erTaderTi gamosavali amsituaciidan aris, rac SeiZlebamale moaxerxoT xalxma realobisgacnobiereba”, _ esaaamonaridi „reformatorebis”lideris, daviT mirotaZis„feisbuqstatusidan”.ratom hgonia Cvens respondents,rom „ocneba” xelisuflebaSiSesaZloa, mesame vadi-Tac darCes da ratom ebrZvismTeli politikuri klasi _xelisuflebidan dawyebuligavleniani opoziciiT damTa-vrebuli, e. w. wvril partiebs,maT Soris, „reformatoreb-sac”? _ am kiTxvebze pasuxsdaviT mirotaZis vrceli in-terviudan miiRebT da imasacgaigebT, Tu ratom mokla „ocnebam”saqarTvelos saxelmwi-foebrioba._ daTo, „reformatorebi”arCevnebSi wels pirveladmonawileobs, ara?_ ara, pirvelad 2014 wlisadgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobisarCevnebSi miviReT monawileoba._ es is „reformatorebis”partiaa, Tavis droze irakliRlonti rom Tavmjdomareob-da?_ ki batono._ keTili... axla is miTxari,2020-is arCevnebze Tqvenipoziciebi rogoria?_ saarCevno subieqtebi varT._ es gasagebia, magram qar-Tuli politikuri bazari er-Tob mravalferovania, TumcamTavari ori moTamaSea _ „ocneba”da „nacionaluri moZrao-ba”. hoda, am mocemulobaSi raSansi gaqvT?_ 2014 wels Cveni partiaerTma an orma ki ara, daaxloebiT,ocma adamianma daaarsa._ es Cems kiTxvasTan ra kav-SirSia?_ partia Tavidanve gundurimuSaobisTvis Seiqmna da axlacasea, rasac erTi garemoebacadaturebs: pirvel Tavmjdoma-res nominaluri mmarTvelobacki ar aqvs SenarCunebuli. mokled,imis Tqma minda, rom „reformatorebi”aqamde arsebuliyvela partiisgan absoluturadgansxvavebuli modelia _ saqarTveloSiyvela partia erTkaczea Camokidebuli. sxvaTaSoris, am xnis ganmavlobaSi,rac varsebobT, bevri ram moxda._ kerZod?_ SeiZleba iTqvas, romdagvSales._ vin dagSalaT?_ raRac Zalebma CarevebiTaTu gadabirebebiT._ anu xelisuflebaze mian-iSneb, daTo?_ ase vTqvaT: gavlenianjgufebze. es SeiZleba, xelisuflebaciyos da ara _ xelisuflebac,anu zogadad im politikurklasze vsaubrob, romelicsaqarTveloSi bolo 30welia, arsebobs._ daSlis mizani ra iyo?axla, ar miTxra, rom es 30-wliani politikuri klasi „re-formatorebSi”seriozulkonkurents xedavda..._ SeiZleba, ambiciurad JRers,magram „reformatorebis”dResac Zalian eSiniaT, radganCvens gundSi kompromatebs veravisupovian. aseTi xalxi kiarc xelisuflebas awyobs, arc_ opoziciis gavlenian jgufebsda arc _ gare Zalebs._ Tu Tqvens wevrebze kom-promatebi ar arsebobs, aba,gadabireba rogorRa moaxerx-es?_ adamianebi varT. zogisTvisraRacam ikaSkaSa, zogi sustinebisyofis aRmoCnda da a. S.roca im principebs Ralatob,romlisTvisac erTad davdeqiT,gundis SigniTac raRac xdebada amitom bevrma gacla amjobina,bevrma ki gadavwyviteT,rom bolomde gvebrZola... pirdapirvityvi: pirveli yrilobisdros politsabWos Tavmjdomareviyavi da politsabWosramdenime wevrTan erTadpartiidan wasvlaze gancxadebagavakeTe, Tumca mere aRmoCnda,rom partiis wevrebisa da mxardamWerebisdidi nawili maSindeliTavmjdomaris ki ara, Cvenimomxre iyo, anu gviTxres,Tqveni mxardamWerebi varT dasad midixarTo. amitom gadavwyviteT,ar wavsuliyaviT da,piriqiT, gverbZrola._ hoda, weRandel kiTxvasxelaxla dagisvam, daTo: TumTeli politikuri speqtri„reformatorebs” ebrZvis, aba,31 oqtombers risi imedigaqvs?_ xalxis!_ gulwrfelad getyvi da argewyinos: xalxis umetesobamarc ki icis, rom partia „re-formatorebi” arsebobs._ samwuxarod, asea. saerTod,Cveni principebis gamo ZaliandaviT mirotaZe: àmarCevnebma SesaZloa, iseCaiaros, xalxma bevriveraferi moaxerxos!~rTulia iseTi adamianebi moZebno,romelTac resursi aqvT.politikur procesSi ganvi-TarebisTvis resursi aucilebelia.aseve am sferoSi arakomprometirebuliadamianebismoZebna Zalian rTulia.amomrCeveli, umetes SemTxvevaSi,romelime politikurZalasTanaa identificirebulida yvelafer amis gamo naklebicnobadoba gvaqvs, magram Tuimaze daviwyebT fiqrs, ariqa,vinme fuliani movZebnoT, visacsiaSi CavsvamT an vinmes SevekraTda SemovekraTo, „reformatorebic”im situaciamde mivlen,romelSic sxva partiebiarian. amitom amas TanmimdevruliganviTareba sjobia da darwmunebulivar, am arCevnebisSemdeg „refrmatorebi” parlamentSiaucileblad iqneba warmodgenili._ amas ris safuZvelze am-bob?_ mosaxleobisgan didi mxardaWeragvaqvs._ aki, xalxi ar gvicnobso?_ yvelasgan, vinc Cven Sesaxebigebs, did pozitivs vgrZnobT.„dayenebuli frazebiT” arvsaubrobT da xalxi am gulwrfelobaskargad xvdeba. masaSeiZleba, gonebiT naklebad moqmedebs,magram mgrZnobelobaZalian didi aqvs, anu gulwrfelobassiyalbisgan kargadarCevs da Cveni, uxeSad romvTqva, koziric swored gulwrfelobada simarTlis laparakia!es ki rTuli gzaa._ maSasadame, darwmunebulixar, rom meaTe mowvevis parla-mentSi „reformatorebi” erTimandatiT mainc iqneba warmod-genili?_ aucileblad!_ msoflio praqtika mowmobs,rom erT mandats Sesa-Zloa, oqros fasi hqondes.hoda, Tu ise moxda, rom koaliciisSesaqmnelad „refor-matorebis” erTi xma gaxdasaWiro, vis mxares dadgebi _„ocnebis” Tu „nacmoZraobis”?_ „reformatorebi” koaliciurimTavrobis winaaRmdegia._ ratom?_ swored koaliciurimTavrobis dros yvelaze kargiSansia, rom araformaluri mmarTveliarsebobdes da situaciasimaze ufro farulad mar-Tavdes, vidre dRes marTavs.sxvaTa Soris, mxolod koaliciurimTavrobis ki ara, saparlamentommarTvelobis winaa-Rmdegic varT. saqarTvelo Sereuliki ara, aucileblad wmindasaprezidento saxelmwifounda iyos, sadac premieris Tanamdebobaar iqneba da mTavrobasprezidenti uxelmZRvanelebs.politikur TeoriebSicasea._ ase, anu rogor?_ xelisuflebis danawilebisxarisxi Zalian dabalia. saprezidentorespublika ki ismodelia, sadac xelisuflebisStoebs Soris balansi ZalianmaRalia._ saqarTvelo, klasikurigagebiT, arc saparlamento respublikaada arc _ saprezi-dento._ diax da saprezidento respublikiskenunda wavideT._ am gadawyvetilebas „reformatorebis”gundi ver miiRebs,radgan parlamentSi, bev-ri-bevri, ori mandati hqondes..._ dRes da xval amas ver gavakeTebT,magram Cveni mTavariamocana da mizani yovelTvis isiqneba, rom Cveni gundi aucilebladgaZlierdes. pirdapirvambob: „reformatorebi” momavalisaxelisuflebo gundia.ise, jer kidev aravin icis,arCevnebis mere ra da rogoriqneba, anu koalicia saWirogaxdeba Tu ara, magram politikadinamikuri procesia._ diax, asea..._ adamianma politikaSi yovelTvissaxelmwifo interesebiTunda ixelmZRvanelo dagadawyvetilebebic iseTi undamiiRo, romelic qveynas gamoadgeba.mokled, miuxedavad imisa,rom koaliciis winaaRmdegebivarT, gadawyvetilebas imis3434 N26 (328) 27.10-.2.11.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comsaxelmwifoebrioba mokla!~mixedviT miviRebT, arCevnebismere rogori situaciac iqneba._ e. i., „reformatorebisTvis”„ocnebasTan” Tanam-Sromlobac misaRebia da „nac-moZraobasTanac”?_ ar minda, pirdapir vTqva._ anu?_ Cveni realoba or ki ara,sampolusianobaa._ mesame polusi vinRaa?_ xelisufleba, gavlenianiopozicia da xalxi. merwmune,xalxs arc xelisufleba aRiarebsda arc _ opoziciis gavlenianijgufebi, anu xalxi arcerTs ainteresebs da arc _ meores.Sesabamisad, xalxi mesamemxaresaa. „reformatorebi” ki,metaforul naTqvamad ar gaigoTda, xalxidan modis da xalx-Tan midis!_ ise, daviT, sityvam moi-tana da, xalxs ra ainteresebs?_ xalxs ainteresebs, romnormalur da awyobil qveyana-Si cxovrobdes, sadac imuSavebs,Sesabamisi anazRaurebaeqneba da amasTan, daculiciqneba. saerTod, Tu usafrTxoebaaraa, is qveyana verafersSeqmnis! dRes xalxs xelisuflebacCamoSorebulia daopoziciac, orives hgonia, romadamianebs SiaT da mxolodamaze unda ilaparakos._ diax, xalxs realurad Siada swored amazea salaparako!_ ara, Cemo batono. ekonomikamaSin ganviTardeba, rocaqveynis usafrTxoeba iqneba daculida roca Zlieri saxelmwifoinstitutebi aSendeba. Tumezoblis Semovardnis geSinia,Sin saWmels ver gaakeTeb. saxelmwifoSiczustad asea _ investoricar Camova. sxva kuTxiTki am xelisuflebaze saubarisaerTod ar minda._ ukacravad, „ocnebas” rasuwuneb?_ arafers, mSvenivrad midis,ras unda vuwunebde?!_ diaxac, mSvenivrad midis.ai, magaliTad, gazafxulze,roca koronis pirveli talRaiyo, pirbadeebi ar gvqonda,axla ki, rogorc premieri am-bobs, gvaqvs!.._ „ocnebam” is saxelmwifoebrioba,romelic gasuli saukunis90-iani wlebis dasawyisSisamarTlebrivad daiwyo, mokla!ufro zustad rom vTqva, qarTulisaxelmwifo, romelic undaaSenebuliyo, jer 1992 welsmokles._ maSindel codvebsac „oc-nebas” nu „avkidebT”..._ maSin SevardnaZe iyo, magram„ocnebam” is amonaTebac,romelic arsebobda, saerToddamarxa!_ „ocneba” qarTuli saxelmwifosdamarxvas „nacebs” abralebsda amis dasturad daviTgarejis,anu e. w. kartografe-bis saqme mohyavs..._ enas Zvali ar aqvs, „ocnebas”ki _ Sublis ZarRvi da`saqarTvelo Sereuli ki ara, aucileblad wminda saprezidento saxelmwifounda iyos, sadac premieris Tanamdeboba ar iqneba da mTavrobas prezidentiuxelmZRvanelebs~yvelafers ityvis, magram xalxikargad xedavs, ra da rogoraa.erTi sityviT, mTavari saxelmwifoebriobaa,mere ki _ekonomika da yvelaferi sxva..._ maSasadame, daTo, ar gaqvsgancda, rom „nacionalebis”dros cudi raRacebi xdeboda,axla ki kargi xdeba?_ „nacionalebis” dros cudiraRacebi, ra Tqma unda, xdeboda,magram saxelmwifo institutebiZlierdeboda, Tumcagarkveul periodamde. saer-Tod, jobia, win gavixedoT damomavalze vifiqroT, Tumcaraki sityvam moitana, „nacionalebis”mmarTvelobas or nawiladgavyof _ 2007 wlamde da2007-is mere. 2007 wlamde iyoxelisufleba, romelic saqar-Tvelos ganviTarebis Zalianseriozul gzaze idga. 2007wlis Semodgomis movlenebisSemdeg ki sakuTari xelisuflebisSenarCunebaze fiqri,Tanac araswori gziT daiwyo._ geTanxmebi... daviT, dResxalxi imisTvis mzadaa, rom xe-lisufleba Secvalos?_ diax, xalxi mzadaa, rom„ocneba” xelisuflebidan wavides,oRond imis realuri alternativaar aqvs, rom „ocneba”xelisuflebidan gauSvas.sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime Tviswin vTqvi, wlevandeli arCevnebie. w. gadarCeviTi arCevnebiar iqneba-meTqi._ „gadarCeviTi arCevnebi”ras niSnavs?_ es xelisufleba aRar gvindada unda gadavirCioT... Tugavleniani opoziciuri Zalebiswor gzas daadgebodnen, „akrefdnen”da SeZlebdnen, rom „ocnebis”alternativa yofiliyvnen,magram axla sazogadoebaiqamdea misuli, rom viRacas,ubralod, airCevs, anu arsebulixelisuflebis gadarCevisTvisar miva ubanze._ hoda, problemac sworedegaa, rom xalxi „qocebisa” daès xelisufleba aRar gvinda da undagadavirCioT... Tu gavleniani opoziciuriZalebi swor gzas daadgebodnen, àkrefdnen~da SeZlebdnen, rom òcnebis~ alternativayofiliyvnen, magram axla sazogadoebaiqamdea misuli, rom viRacas, ubralod,airCevs, anu arsebuli xelisuflebisgadarCevisTvis ar miva ubanze~„nacebis” alternativas verxedavs. am dros, meubnebi, „re-formatorebi” xalxTan dgaso.me, rigiTma amomrCevelma,rogor unda gavigo, rom „re-formatorebi” xalxis partiaa,anu rom ganvazogadoT, e. w.SuaSisturma da patara partie-bma 31 oqtombers politikurilelo rogor unda gaitanoT?_ ar vici... saarCevno subieqtad50-mde partiaa registrirebuli,Tumca, simarTle romvTqva, „reformatorebs” Sua-Sistebis rangSi ver gaviyvan,radgan absoluturad sxvanairigundi varT, anu erT an orarCevnebze ar varT orientirebulida da ufro Sors mimavaligegmebi gvaqvs. rac SeexebakiTxvas, imis iluzia ar gvaqvs,rom 31 oqtombers furorsmovaxdenT da xelisuflebaSimovalT, magram TanmimdevruliganviTarebiT yvelaferi Sesa-Zlebelia da erT dRes „reformatorebi”saxelisuflebo gundiaucileblad gaxdeba!_ Tu gansxvavebuli politikurigundia da aseve gansxvavebuligegmebi aqvs, maSin bi-znesmenebi „reformatorebSi”fuls ratom ar deben?_ yvelam viciT, am qveyanaSibiznesi rogorcaa._ rogor?_ did biznesebTan arc kimivsulvarT, rom Cveni programagagvecno da mxardaWera gve-Txova _ didi biznesebi, rogorcwesi, garigebaSi arian.saerTod, saqarTveloSi iseTigaremoa Seqmnili, rom patarabiznessac ki eSinia, jibidan asilari amoiRos da partias oficialuradCauricxos. uxsni,eubnebi, amis gamo aravin arafersdagiSavebs, bolos da bolos,gverdiT dagidgebi daSeni daCagvris uflebas aravismivcem-meTqi, magram yvelasZalian uWirs, rom xeli gamogiwodos.sxvaTa Soris, bevri gulwrfeladgveubneba, _ Zaliankargi adamianebi xarT, magramra vqnaTo..._ ise, daTo, koronapandemiisgamo dasaSvebia, rom 31 oqtombersxalxis aqtivoba daba-li iyos da, Sesabamisad, arCev-nebis legitimuroba eWqveSdadges?_ mxolod saqarTveloSi kiara, mTel msoflioSi araprognozirebadipolitikuri vi-Tarebaa._ amas riT xsni?_ profesiiT politologida politikis analitikosi var,anu Cemi profesia analizi dagamosavlis povnaa, Tumca esprofesia aqac ise rom muSaobdes,rogorc aSS-Si muSaobs,albaT, seriozulad CaviWrebodi,radgan araordinaluridroeba da situaciaa. Sesabamisad,imis prognozireba, ramoxdeba da ra rogor iqneba,Zalian rTulia. diax, praqtikuladwarmoudgenelia, romraRac ganWvrito, Tumca TumarTali xar, bolomde gaxval.ai, cunami rom aris xolme: aqeTpandemia, iqiT _ socialuriproblemebi da yvela erTmaneTseWvis TvaliT uyurebs..._ xom ar ggonia, rom xeli-sufleba koronas politikurimanipulaciebisTvis iyenebs?_ cxadia, rom raRac donezeiyenebs, anu mTelma saqarTvelomicis, rom is statistikidan,romelic qveyndeba, bevrs testigakeTebulic ar aqvs, Tumcaes imas rodi niSnavs, rom pandemiaaraa. ise, aravis ewyinosda mainc samxreTelebi da, Sesabamisad,cota mouwesrigeblebivarT. arada, ufromoridebulebi unda viyoT daSvilebs Tu ojaxebs metad undavicavdeT. ai, magaliTad, piradadme sazogadoebrivitnasportiT davdivar da pirbadeebisgakeTebaze monitoringissamsaxurs omi aqvs._ hoda, yvelaferi esarCevnebze imoqmedebs Tu ara?_ weRandeli Tqmisa ar iyos,prognozireba Zalian rTulia,Tumca mgonia, rom aqtivobaZalian dabali iqneba, miuxedavadimisa, rom xelisuflebayvela berkets gamoiyenebs, ararealuricifrebi „moitanos”._ amis gamo dRis wesrigSiarCevnebis Sedegebis arale-gitimuroba xom ar dadgeba?_ arafers gamovricxav, TumcasaerTaSoriso sazogadoebasCveni arCevnebisTvis didad arscxela, yovel SemTxvevaSi,Tval-yurs ise ver gvadevnebs,rogorc sCvevia da rogorcwesia. amitom am arCevnebma Sesa-Zloa, ise Caiaros, rom xalxmabevri veraferi moaxerxos._ e. i., imis Sansi, rom „ocneba”xelisuflebaSi mesame va-diTac darCes, didia, ara?_ arc amas gamovricxav, Tumca„ocnebis” darCena dasasrulisdasawyisi iqneba. amaT dar-Cenas mxolod xalxi ki ara, Cvenisaxelmwifoebriobac didxansveRar aitans. saxelmwifoebriobisdakargvamde bevri aRargviklia da is dro aRaraa, romam ganZs SevelioT!N26 (328) 27.10-.2.11.2020 w.35
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