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mecxre gverdidan<br />
- maSinac vsaubrobdi amaze, magram,<br />
ra Tqma unda, aravin momismina.<br />
ki batono, baTumis dayenebis<br />
ufleba aqvs. ratom daayena? imitom,<br />
rom baTumi ki ar ainteresebs,<br />
ZiriTadad, am yvelafers Turquli<br />
reisiT aformebs. TurqeTis reisSi<br />
rom midis, baTumis mgzavri mihyavs.<br />
_ amaSi ra interesi devs?<br />
_ saerTaSoriso gadazidva imas<br />
niSnavs, rom mgzavroba iwyeba erTi<br />
qveynidan da mTavrdeba meore qveyanaSi.<br />
pirdapir weria sagadasaxado<br />
kodeqsSi: qmedeba, romelic iwyeba<br />
aq da mTavrdeba sxvagan, dRg-sgan<br />
ganTavisuflebulia. CaTvaleT,<br />
rom es kaci dRg-sgan absoluturad<br />
ganTavisuflebulia. es Tavisufleba<br />
mas imis saSualebas aniWebs,<br />
rom bileTis fasi rogorc unda,<br />
ise aTamaSos. axla kanonSi meore<br />
rame weria, rom arsebobs dempinguri<br />
fasi, romelic gamoangariSebulia<br />
raRac formulebiT da normaluri,<br />
saRi gonebis adamians, rom<br />
manqanam aqedan aqamde imoZraos da<br />
imaze nakleb fasad, ubralod, manqana<br />
ver imoZravebs, mas am dempingur<br />
fass kaciSvili ar sTxovs,<br />
rogorc unda, ise aregulirebs.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, es zogierT sxva gadamzidavzec<br />
vrceldeba. es yvelaferi<br />
galifma kargad gamoiyena, ba-<br />
Tumzec dadis, magram TurqeTs<br />
Sirmad iyenebs. axla axali marSruti<br />
moigona da erevani-baTumi gaxsna,<br />
esec saerTaSoriso xazia, erevanSi<br />
iwyeba da baTumSi mTavrdeba,<br />
esec dRg-sgan Tavisufalia, Semova<br />
„wiTel xidze”, mohyveba<br />
iqidan da am xalxs bolomde iyvans,<br />
kaciSvili pasuxs ar sTxovs, dRgs<br />
ar ixdis, radgan saerTaSoriso<br />
reisia, wesiT amas kidev meore saxeli<br />
hqvia, _ kapotaJi. rom Semovida,<br />
saerTaSoriso mgzavris garda,<br />
aravis ayvanis ufleba ar aqvs, amasac<br />
aravin akontrolebs, ufro<br />
sworad, Zalian Zneli gasakontrolebelia,<br />
imitom, rom transpirtis<br />
saministro arsebobda da axla arsebobs<br />
ekonomikis saministroSi Semavali<br />
saagento. ar vici, ramdeni<br />
TanamSromeli hyavT, magram is<br />
vici, rom iq transporteli sul<br />
sami kacia, danarCeni transport-<br />
Tan SexebaSi ar aris, misi xelmZRvaneli,<br />
xmalaZidan dawyebuli,<br />
transportis gagebaSi ar arian.<br />
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ra kavSiri aqvs soso<br />
gogaSvils zugdideli<br />
mZRolebis xmaurian<br />
aqciasTan?!<br />
gadamzidavebi, jer mxolod,<br />
sam gvars asaxeleben:<br />
gogaSvili,<br />
beselia, kakulia...<br />
telegadacemaSi ramdenjerme mimiwvies,<br />
viTxovdi, rom saagentos xelmZRvanelTan<br />
pirdapir mesaubra,<br />
magram ar movida. damijdes win da<br />
damelaparakos, magram transportze<br />
ver damelaparakeba, radgan<br />
es kaci SexebaSi ar aris da saer-<br />
`ar meSinia, xmamaRla vacxadeb, es kaci, vinme<br />
galifi, aris kriminali, devnili, Tavis<br />
qveyanas ar unda, amaT kidev wiTel xaliCaze<br />
dahyavT. 7 kacis mkvlelia, aqedan erT-erTia<br />
sakuTari Zma. amdeni xania, am saqmeze vibrZviT<br />
da informaciebi gvaqvs, zogi gazeTebidan<br />
SevagroveT, zogic piradad moviZieT da kargad<br />
viciT es ambavi. gana, marto transporti,<br />
mTeli adgilobrivi samSeneblo kompaniebi<br />
CaZira, TurqeTidan samSeneblo masalebi iafad<br />
Semoitana da eseni gaaCera. samSeneblo da<br />
satransporto biznesi adgilze sul<br />
gaanadgura. isic viciT, rom am kompaniis<br />
manqanebi ganubaJebelia da ise moZraoben. Tan<br />
ras akeTebs - baTumisa da TurqeTis reiss<br />
aerTianebs, rom gadasaxadebi damalos~<br />
Tod ar icis es sfero, is ori kaci<br />
ki, romelic am saagentoSi muSaobs<br />
da sfero icis, arafers wyvets.<br />
_ batono avTo, televiziiT<br />
gamodixarT, presasTan saubrobT,<br />
xelisuflebis yuramde xom mis-<br />
ulia es informacia, ratom ar<br />
xdeba reagireba?<br />
_ es gamosvlebi 2014 wels daviwye,<br />
amis Semdeg xdeba aseTi raRac:<br />
2014 wels, jer kidev, irakli RaribaSvili<br />
iyo premier-ministri,<br />
galifs ibareben da man Tavisi<br />
saqme imiT „gaaprava”, rom 500 000<br />
Semoitana saxelmwifoSi. oficialurad<br />
gadaixada naxevari milioni<br />
lari RaribaSvilis dros! manamde<br />
dagvemuqra, mTavrobaSi fuli<br />
maqvs gadaxdilio. vici, rom es<br />
asea, magram faqti Tu ar gaqvs, amis<br />
gamo verc vadastureb da verc<br />
uarvyof.<br />
_ risTvis gadaixada naxevari<br />
milioni?<br />
_ keTili biWia da saqarTvelos<br />
exmareba! Tu ar vcdebi, „solidarobis<br />
fondSi” gadaaricxines! 2016<br />
wlis gazafxulze cnobili biznesmenebis<br />
Sekreba Catarda, kvirikaSvili<br />
axali arCeuli iyo da am galifs<br />
saerTod ar icnobda, magram<br />
dokumentebi miawodes, rom isic<br />
iyo miwveuli. miiyvanes da rogorc<br />
kargi biznesmeni ramdenimes Soris<br />
daasaxeles, rom saqarTvelos aSenebs<br />
da naxevari milioni isev Seitana.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, im dajildoebas<br />
qsnis minis taris qarxnis direqtori<br />
da erT-erTi mowile eswreboda,<br />
romelic Turqia. detalurad<br />
vici, iman rom dainaxa galifi,<br />
TurqeTis elCs uTxra, _ amas aq ra<br />
unda, es kriminaliao. TviTon<br />
Turqs ewyina, rom es iq dainaxa. es<br />
miCqmal-moCqmales, kvirikaSvilma<br />
saerTod ar icoda, Caudes dokumentebi<br />
da es kaci miiyvanes, gvarebi<br />
waikiTxes da kvirikaSvils am<br />
galifisTvis madloba gamoacxadebines.<br />
darbis axla es galifi da<br />
asaxelebs xelisuflebis Cinovnikebs,<br />
rom isini mfarveloben, daafrialebs<br />
maTTan gadaRebul suraTebs!<br />
aSkaraa, rom mas viRac<br />
mfarvelobs.<br />
_ zugdidelma mZRolebma<br />
miTxres, pirdapir Tqves, Tqven xe-<br />
lisuflebas ebrZviT da am saqmis<br />
ukan beselia da gogaSvili dga-<br />
nano...<br />
_ me sxva informacia maqvs,<br />
ufro maRali Cini aqvs da, princip-<br />
Si, imasTan Sedis beseliac, gogaSvilic<br />
da kidev bevri sxvac... am<br />
etapze Tavs Sevikaveb dasaxelebisgan.<br />
rogorc ki faqtobrivi masala<br />
meqneba, Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT<br />
gavaJRereb.<br />
`zugdidSi am kompaniis warmomadgenelia foTis<br />
meris, irakli kakulias Zma, romelic<br />
pirdapir, aSkarad Semovida, Widaoba dagviwyo<br />
da samuSao wagvarTva. ar dagvimala, pirdapir<br />
gviTxra, - Tqven ebrZviT xelisuflebaso.<br />
vkiTxeT, - vis gulisxmobT xelisuflebaSio?<br />
pirdapir eka beseliasken gaiSvira xeli da<br />
viRac soso gogaSvilisken, vin aris, ar vici~<br />
_ zemoT aRniSneT, rom Turqu-<br />
li kompania saerTaSoriso reisis<br />
egidiT adgilobriv gadazidvasac<br />
awarmoebs da gadasaxadebs ar ix-<br />
dis. es xom danaSaulia?<br />
_ amaze laparaks rom iwyeb,<br />
geubnebian, _ bazari Tavisufalia,<br />
Tu kacs SuZlia, muSaobs. ki batono,<br />
magram amis ukan xom unda<br />
Caixedo, ras akeTebs?! galifma<br />
TurqeTidan 400 milioni wamoiRo<br />
da SeuZlia, xalxi ufasodac ataros.<br />
dRes rom adge da Tqva, mgzavri<br />
ufasod unda vataroo, es<br />
TiTqos keTili Jestia, magram<br />
roca sistemur problemazea laparaki,<br />
sistemas angrev. maSin meore<br />
rames vityvi: saxelmwifom arc dRg<br />
aiRos, arc saSemosavlo, arc mogebis<br />
gadasaxadi da erTi vnaxoT,<br />
rogor Seinaxaven amden parlamentars<br />
da amden sabiujeto xelfasze<br />
mcxovreb xalxs! ase rogor<br />
SeiZleba, mSieri datova, sul<br />
mcire, 400 kaci zugdidis mxares,<br />
400 kaci baTumis mxares, TiTo avtobusis<br />
mZRolis ukan, kidev, 5-5<br />
ojaxi mainc dgas.<br />
_ sakanonmdeblo xarvezTanac<br />
xom ar gvaqvs saqme?<br />
_ sakanonmdeblo xarvezTan is<br />
saqme gvaqvs, rom darRveuli aqvT<br />
dempinguri fasebi, kapotaJis<br />
sistema, aq rom aris avtosadguri,<br />
midis da meore sadgurs akeTebs,<br />
cota Zneli gasagebia, maRazia ma-<br />
Raziis gverdiT unda iyos, magram<br />
sadguri rom gaukeTa axla gverdiT<br />
zugdidSi, iqidan mohyavs mgzavri<br />
5 lariT iafad, unda, rom<br />
jer eseni yvela daaqcios da mere<br />
bileTi 20 lari rom Rirs, 30 gaxados.<br />
rac Turqebma bulgarelebTan<br />
gaakeTes, qaTami rom SemohqondaT,<br />
daugdes fasi, erTi weli<br />
wagebaze imuSaves da mere rogorc<br />
ki bulgarelebi bazridan gamoagdes,<br />
aTi imdeni moiges. es aris kapitalizmis<br />
mgluri principi, visac<br />
bevri fuli aqvs, ase unda gaake-<br />
Tos. es saxelmwifom unda areguliros,<br />
rom sakuTari mosaxleoba<br />
mSieri ar darCes!<br />
_ gamosavali?<br />
_ yvela unda iyos kanonmor-<br />
Cili. vinc kanons arRvevs, sadac<br />
ra daaSava, daviWerdi. im kacma ki,<br />
vinc jildo daimsaxura, unda miiRos.<br />
morals amoraluri kaci ar<br />
unda mikiTxavdes, meti araferi.<br />
Cven axla erT sferoze vsaubrobT<br />
da TiTqmis yvela sferoSi aseTi<br />
situaciaa...<br />
lavrenti alania _ transpor-<br />
tis profkavSirebis xelmZRvane-<br />
li:<br />
_ 2006 wlis Semdeg, rodesac<br />
kaxa benduqiZe ekonomikis ministri<br />
iyo, gauqmda kanoni transportis<br />
regulirebis Sesaxeb. satransporto<br />
sferoSi mravali darRveva<br />
xdeba da misi regulireba mxolod<br />
bazarsaa mindobili. Sesabamisad,<br />
konkurencia, am SemTxvevaSi, pirvel<br />
rigSi, azaralebs zugdidel<br />
mZRolebsa da maT ojaxebs, radgan<br />
dRes saqarTveloSi, umuSevrobis<br />
sakmaod didi maCveneblis pirobeb-<br />
Si, mosaxleobis didi nawili<br />
swored transportiT da vaWrobiT<br />
irCens Tavs.<br />
"qronika+" Turqul kompania<br />
"metros"<br />
administraciasTan<br />
dakavSirebas cdilobda, Tumca<br />
uSedegod. organizaciis fil-<br />
ialebSi miTiTebul telefonis<br />
nomrebze operatorebi acxadeben,<br />
rom ar ician xelmZRvaneli pirebis<br />
sakontaqto nomrebi. gasaidumloebuli<br />
aRmoCnda aseve zugdid-<br />
Si organizaciis xelmZRvanelis,<br />
vaxtang kakulias nomeri. "qroni-<br />
ka+" foTis mers irakli kakuliasac<br />
daukavSirda, magram man Cven-<br />
Tan saubarze uari ganacxada da<br />
Setyobineba gamogvigzavna, rom am<br />
sakiTxze komentars ar akeTebs.<br />
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34 N1 (178) 17.01-23.01.2017 w.
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