qronika182
Create successful ePaper yourself
Turn your PDF publications into a flip-book with our unique Google optimized e-Paper software.
CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
kadrebis<br />
beladi<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N5 5 (182) 14.02<br />
02.201<br />
.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />
soso gv.<br />
gv. 7<br />
visi davalebiT usmenen<br />
uCa mamacaSvils?<br />
gv. 2<br />
mowmeTa<br />
trening-centri<br />
`matrosovze~ gv.<br />
gv. 8<br />
gv. 4<br />
cianidi<br />
`sakmevelSi~?!<br />
gv. 10<br />
vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />
`energetikis<br />
saministro<br />
daxSul sistemad<br />
Camoyalibda~<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
rusudan cirekiZe:<br />
`trasaze gaWedili<br />
magnoliasaviT<br />
migvaTrevs<br />
rusi oligarqi~ gv. 16<br />
1
mis kursSi ar aris.<br />
uCa mamacaSvils moqmed premierTan<br />
arcTu kargi damokidebuleba<br />
aqvs. gavrcelebuli informaciiT,<br />
mas kvirikaSvilis<br />
mTavrobaSi infrastruqturis<br />
ministrad sakuTari kandidaturis<br />
daniSvna undoda, magram premieri<br />
ar daeTanxma da am postze<br />
zurab alaviZe daniSna. daniSvnamde,<br />
swored soso gogaSvilis<br />
davalebiT, sus-is mediam alaviZes<br />
warsuli da „nacebTan” urTierToba<br />
gauxsena, magram am faqts<br />
misi daniSvnisTvis xeli ar SeuSlia.<br />
momdevno wlis biujetSi infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtebisTvis<br />
sakmaod didi Tanxaa gamoyofili<br />
da raki uCa mamacaSvili<br />
saministros pirdapir kontrols<br />
ver axerxebs, am etapze, Cveni wyaros<br />
informaciiT, alaviZes moadgiled,<br />
swored, soso gogaSvilis<br />
siZes, guja sonRulaSvils<br />
uniSnaven, rom saministroSi mimdinare<br />
procesebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
informacia sistematurad miiRon.<br />
saerTod, ojaxis wevrebis<br />
informaciis miRebasa da gavrcelebaSi<br />
gamoyeneba gogaSvilisTvis<br />
ucxo ar aris, xSirad, swored<br />
misi colis, Tea martyofliSvilis<br />
meSveobiT gadascems is<br />
sasurvel informacias (dezinformacias)<br />
gavlenis agentebs, xolo<br />
colisdis, xaTuna martyof-<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
undobloba adamianebis, saku-<br />
Tari garemocvis, naTesavebisa da megobrebis mimarT biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis savizito baraTia. mas axlos hyavs politikuri<br />
partniorebi da kidev ufro axlos hyavda piradi megobrebi,<br />
Tumca, amavdroulad, maT mudmivad akontrolebda.<br />
sqema, romliTac ivaniSvili sakuTar<br />
bizness marTavda, erTi er-<br />
Tze gadmoitana qveynis marTvisas.<br />
am modelSi ar arsebobs sityva<br />
gundi, arsebobs mxolod droebiTi<br />
partniorebi, romlebsac<br />
sakuTari misiis amowurvis Semdeg<br />
daumSvidobeblad iSorebs Tavidan.<br />
2012 wels, arCevnebSi „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” gamarjvebis Semdeg,<br />
biZina ivaniSvili premier-ministri<br />
gaxda da mTavrobac daakompleqta,<br />
arada, analitikosebma da<br />
dasavlurma wreebma icodnen, rom<br />
arCevnebSi mis koalicias 40% unda<br />
mieRo, danarCen xmebs „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” da kidev erTi<br />
romelime sateliti partia iRebda.<br />
yvelasTvis moulodnelad,<br />
„cixis kadrebis” gamoqveynebis mere,<br />
dalagebuli situacia airia<br />
da ivaniSvili, realurad, qveynis<br />
mmarTveli gaxda.<br />
2012 wlis noemberSi, roca saarCevno<br />
peripetiebi ukve momTavrebuli<br />
iyo da riski, faqtobrivad,<br />
aRar arsebobda, ivaniSvilma<br />
saqarTveloSi sakuTari deidaSvili,<br />
uCa mamacaSvili Camoiyvana.<br />
am periodisTvis misi saxeli da<br />
gvari saqarTveloSi aravin icoda,<br />
arc ki igugleboda. mamacaSvili<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi ruseT-<br />
Si muSaobda da ivaniSvilis ramdenime<br />
bizness „xedavda”. uCa mamacaSvilma<br />
bina „piqselis” Senoba-<br />
Si daido, sadac gia xuxaSvilTan<br />
erTad biznesis warmomadgenlebs<br />
xvdeboda da bizneswilebis gadanawilebis<br />
sakiTxebs arkvevda.<br />
misi interesis ZiriTadi sfero<br />
rkinigza, gadazidvebi, portebi<br />
da „nacionaluri moZraobis” mier<br />
kontrolirebadi sxva aqtivebi<br />
gaxldaT. mas am saqmeSi megzuri<br />
sWirdeboda da swored am dros<br />
„piqselis” SenobaSi jer ramaz nikolaiSvili<br />
gamoCnda (saakaSvilis<br />
xelisuflebis finansuri policiis<br />
yofili ufrosi), mogvianebiT<br />
ki mTavari prokuroris moadgile<br />
daviT CxataraSvili. swored<br />
am ori adamianis meSeobiT miiRo<br />
mamacaSvilma sruli informacia<br />
„nacebis” finansur sqemebze.<br />
CxataraSvils bolomde mainc ar<br />
endnen da, mogvianebiT, daiWires<br />
kidec, ramaz nikolaiSvils ki gansakuTrebiT<br />
azerbaijanis mimarTulebiT<br />
Temebis dalageba daufasda,<br />
Tan imdenad, rom, sabolood,<br />
isev „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />
saarCevno siaSi moxvda meoce<br />
nomrad. wesiT, es faqti pirveli<br />
signali iyo imisa, rom enm-s garkveul<br />
wresa da ivaniSvilis<br />
garemocvas Soris garigeba ukve<br />
arsebobda.<br />
finansuri sqemebis dasalageblad<br />
uCa mamacaSvils, daaxloebiT,<br />
sami weli dasWirda. meoTxe<br />
wels misi gavlenebi politikur<br />
partiebsac miswvda. mis ofisSi<br />
xSirad xedavdnen opoziciuri<br />
partiebis warmomadgenlebs, „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobidan” gamijnulebs,<br />
parlamentSi moxvedris<br />
msurvelebsa da a. S. uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
marjvena xeli, sus-is ufrosis<br />
moadgile soso gogaSvili,<br />
metsaxelad „antrikota” gaxda.<br />
2012 wels soso gogaSvilis<br />
saxeli da gvari mxolod kud-ma<br />
da im xalxma icoda, romlebic<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
uCa nanuaSvili<br />
„qarTul ocnebaSi” plakatebis<br />
gamkvrelebad muSaobdnen. iyo<br />
dro, gogaSvils partiis ofisSi<br />
ar uSvebdnen da axali cnobebis<br />
molodinSi Senobis win bordiurze<br />
aTen-aRamebda. arada, axali<br />
ambebi namdvilad sWirdeboda,<br />
radgan vali hqonda gasastumrebeli.<br />
maSindelma finansurma policiam<br />
indmewarme _ yasabi gogaSvili,<br />
romelic farSis distribuciiT<br />
iyo dakavebuli, soliduri<br />
TanxiT daajarima, mas am<br />
Tanxis CamoweraSi ki swored misi<br />
mezobeli, kud-is „odeeri”, giorgi<br />
(gogita) papaSvili daexmara,<br />
romelmac, Tavis droze, „antrikota”<br />
„daaverbovka” da kud-is<br />
ufrosis moadgiles, vaJa leluaSvils<br />
daakavSira. soso gogaSvilis<br />
politikuri aqtivobidan<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” maSindeli aqtivistebi<br />
mxolod Sinagan saqme-<br />
Ta saministrosTan Catarebul aqcias<br />
ixseneben, romelSic, axalgazrdul<br />
organizaciasTan er-<br />
Tad, Tavadac monawileobda, magram<br />
aqciis Sesaxeb SemorCenil<br />
erTaderT videomasalaSi kargad<br />
Cans, rogor ifaravs saxes kaSne-<br />
Ti „antrikota” da cdilobs, kamerebis<br />
obieqtivSi ar moxvdes.<br />
arCevnebis mere<br />
soso gogaSvils<br />
maSvelad<br />
Ss saministros generaluri<br />
inspeqciis ufrosi, zviad janyaraSvili<br />
gamouCnda, _ man „zemliaki”<br />
generalur inspeqciaSi miiyvana<br />
samuSaod. am ubirma da<br />
gaunaTlebelma maCxaanelma biWma<br />
soso gogaSvils uCa<br />
mamacaSvili mfarvelobs?<br />
biZina ivaniSvili<br />
soso gogaSvili<br />
intrigebis xlarTvis SesaSuri<br />
„Wkua” gamoiCina: janyaraSvilisgan<br />
kaxi kalaZesTan gadaportirda,<br />
mogvianebiT ki uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
colisZmas daukavSirda<br />
da axali patronic iSova.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
bolo dros biZina ivaniSvili<br />
gogaSvilis personiT dainteresebula<br />
da misi sayvareli<br />
deidaSvilisTvis ukiTxavs kidec,<br />
_ es kaci sad ipove, rogorc gavige,<br />
adre partiaSi araferi esaqmebodao.<br />
mogvianebiT, biZina<br />
ivaniSvili gogaSvilze kidev<br />
ufro gabrazebula, roca masTan<br />
biznesmeni geno malazonia misula<br />
da uTqvams, _ biznesmenebis<br />
saqmeebSi sus-is ufrosis maodgile<br />
erevao da faqtebic mouyolia.<br />
gabrazebul ivaniSvils sayvareli<br />
deidaSvilisTvis daurekavs,<br />
_ es gogaSvili sus-idan<br />
amden xans ratom ver moaSoreo.<br />
swored am dros uTxovia misTvis<br />
uCa mamacaSvils, _ ori Tve damacade,<br />
ramdenime proeqti aqvs dawyebuli,<br />
daasrulebs da wavao.<br />
ivaniSvils mamacaSvili upasuxod<br />
dautovebia, samagierod, Tavad<br />
mamacaSvils daurekavs geno<br />
malazoniasTvis, _ Tu rame problema<br />
gqondeT, biZina aRar SeawuxoT,<br />
me ager ar var, yvelaferSi<br />
dagexmarebiTo. „qronika+”-is wyaros<br />
informaciiT, gabrazebul da<br />
tradiciulad eWvian ivaniSvils,<br />
ramdenime sando pirisTvis, uCa<br />
mamacaSvilis yvela telefonis<br />
mosmena da masze sruli informaciis<br />
mopoveba dauvalebia, xolo<br />
axlo naTesavebis meore frTis<br />
rekomendaciiT, sus-is ufrosis<br />
moadgiled aleko tabataZe dauniSnavs.<br />
am daniSvniT gogaSvils<br />
gavlenebi mniSvnelovnad Seumcirda,<br />
_ mas kontrdazvervis departamentis<br />
kontroli saerTod<br />
CamoarTves, xolo antikorufciuli<br />
departamentis saqmianobas<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
davalebiT<br />
aseve<br />
sxva pirebi<br />
axorcieleben,<br />
radgan, rogorc Cveni wyaro<br />
gveubneba, yofil premiers<br />
gonivruli eWvi aqvs, rom misi<br />
sayvareli deidaSvili soso gogaSvilTan<br />
erTad mis zurgsukan<br />
fuls ise akeTebs, piradad is saq-<br />
2 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
liSvilis saxelze uZravi qonebis,<br />
maT Soris, SeZenili miwebis<br />
nawili aqvs gaformebuli.<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvili CaTrevas<br />
Cayolas amjobinebs da radgan<br />
zustad icis, rom martis bolos<br />
Tanamdebobis datoveba mouwevs,<br />
arc fiqrobs, rom gogaSvils<br />
raime principuli winaaRmdegoba<br />
gauwios. amis dasturad „qronika+”-is<br />
wyaros ramdenime dRis win<br />
momxdari faqti mohyavs: premierma<br />
kvirikaSvilma mxaris gubernatorebTan<br />
samuSao Sexvedra moawyo,<br />
romelsac, gogaSvilis da-<br />
giorgi gaxaria<br />
scenariT gagrZelda, patriarqis<br />
winaaRmdeg SeTqmulebaa. sinodis<br />
ajanyeba ver Sedga, gogaSvilma<br />
patriarqis erTguli ramdenime<br />
piris diskreditacia moaxerxa,<br />
magram xsenebul eparqiebSi saku-<br />
Tari colis biZaSvili, meufe svimoni<br />
ver gaamwesa, samagierod,<br />
„modulis” SenobaSi sul ufro<br />
xSirad xedaven meufe iakobs, romelic,<br />
amave wyaros informaciiT,<br />
patriarqis erTguli pirebis winaaRmdeg,<br />
am dReebSic gamova<br />
mkveTri gancxadebebiT.<br />
sakonstitucio umravlesobis<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
saakaSvilis partiaSi acxadeben,<br />
rom uZraobis dro dasrulda,<br />
partia Tavdacvidan Setevis re-<br />
JimSi gadadis, rac saboloo amocanad<br />
ivaniSvilis xelisuflebidan<br />
CamoSorebas isaxavs miznad.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro qveynis gareT<br />
ivaniSvilis mTavar problemad<br />
mis yofil partniors, anatoli<br />
bikovs asaxelebs da am dromde<br />
ucnobi istoriis detalebs gviyveba.<br />
sisxliani aluminis saxels<br />
atarebs is imperia, romelic biZina<br />
ivaniSvilma ruseTis krasnodaris<br />
mxareSi aaSena. am saqmeSi<br />
mudmivad figurirebda vinme anatoli<br />
bikovi. is mokrivea. ivaniSvilma<br />
bikovi ramdenime gaxmaurebul<br />
saqmeSi, maT Soris, mkvlelobis<br />
damkveTad jer gamoiyena, „rossiiski<br />
kreditSi” vice-prezidentis<br />
postzec ki daniSna, magram,<br />
mogvianebiT, Tavidan moiSora, _<br />
bikovi daapatimres, krasnodaris<br />
mxaris gubernatori lebedi ki<br />
aviakatastrofaSi daiRupa. Cveni<br />
wyaro ambobs: anatoli bikovma<br />
swored maSin daifica, rom ivaniSvilisTvis<br />
arafris patiebas apirebs<br />
da ivaniSvilic saqarTvelo-<br />
Si swored bikovis patimrobidan<br />
ganTavisuflebis Semdeg gadmoixvewa,<br />
mSobliur sofelSi dasaxlda<br />
da xuTi weli Worvilidan<br />
saerTod ar gasula. am wlebSi<br />
Camouyalibda mas sakvebis mimarT<br />
fobia da mowamvlis panikuri SiSi.<br />
Tu moskovi afxazeTis aRiarebas<br />
moiTxovs, mas kulisebSi darCena<br />
gauWirdeba. daudasturebeli informaciiT,<br />
anatoli bikovis faqtori<br />
misTvis dRis wesrigidan ar<br />
moxsnila, radgan kargad icis,<br />
bikovi raze wamsvlelia, romelic,<br />
Tavis droze, swored mis davalebebs<br />
asrulebda.<br />
arCevnebi dasrulda, magram,<br />
realurad, saqarTveloSi araferi<br />
Secvlila. dasustebuli da<br />
ekonomikurad welSi gawyvetili<br />
qveyana swored ruseTis interesebSia.<br />
Cveulebrivi moqalaqeebis<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvili<br />
cia, adgilobrivebs sajaro samsaxurebSi<br />
asaqmebdnen, intensiurad<br />
mimdinareobda rkinigzis<br />
mSenebloba, daixarja sakmaod<br />
didi fuli. adgilobrivi separatistebis<br />
lideri, vahagan Caxaliani,<br />
cixeSi didi xniT gamoketes.<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebaSi<br />
mosvlis Semdeg vano<br />
merabiSvilis awyobili struqtura<br />
nel-nela moiSala, bolo erTi<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi javaxeTSi<br />
somxeTis saparlamento delegaciebis<br />
vizitebi gaxSirda. eka beselias<br />
ZalisxmeviT, Caxaliani<br />
ekonomikuri mdgomareoba imdenad<br />
mZimea, rom SeiZleba, samoqalaqo<br />
protesti spontanurad,<br />
politikuri partiebis aqtiurobis<br />
gareSe daiwyos. masobrivi<br />
protestis dros, realurad, ivaniSvili<br />
xelisuflebis dakargvis<br />
safrTxis winaSe dgeba. mas wasasvleli,<br />
TiTqmis, arsad aqvs, mxolod<br />
saqarTveloSi grZnobs<br />
Tavs usafrTxod, sxvagan misi mosisxle<br />
mteri, anatoli bikovi,<br />
yvelgan miswvdeba. „qronika+”-is<br />
wyaros informaciiT, mas saTadarigo<br />
scenaric aqvs, romlis-<br />
Tvis mzadebac bolo periodSi<br />
daiwyo. TviTgadarCenis instinqti<br />
ivaniSvils aiZulebs, rom Tavdacvis<br />
zomebi miiRos. Cveni wyaros<br />
informaciiT, Tu gazafxulze<br />
protesti xangrZlivi da masobrivi<br />
iqneba, paralelurad, aucileblad<br />
aireva situacia javaxeT-<br />
Si, rac, SeiZleba, sabolood, am<br />
regionSi rusuli sajariso nawilebis<br />
SemoyvaniT dasruldes.<br />
saakaSvilis xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSi javaxeTSi situacia<br />
vano merabiSvilma daalaga, _<br />
regionSi gaixsna inglisuri<br />
enis Semswavleli kursebi,<br />
etapobrivad xdeboda<br />
integra-<br />
visi davalebiT usmenen<br />
uCa mamacaSvils?<br />
Jinebuli TxovniT, fraqcia „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” Tavmjdomaris<br />
moadgile, dito samxaraZec eswreboda.<br />
samxaraZis inteleqtze partiaSi<br />
anekdotebi dadis da xumroben,<br />
_ aman regionebis ra icis,<br />
Tavmoyvare kaci or bats ar Caabarebso.<br />
kvirikaSvilma gubernatorebs<br />
sTxova, regionebis sakiTxebze<br />
koordinacia dito samxaraZesTan<br />
gqondeTo. Sexvedris<br />
dasrulebis Semdeg premieris rwmunebulebi<br />
daufaravad lan-<br />
ZRavdnen kvirikaSvils, _ samxaraZesTan<br />
ra gvesaqmeba, parlamentis<br />
deputati Cveni ufrosi<br />
ratom unda iyoso.<br />
amave wyaros informaciiT, gogaSviliT<br />
aseve ukmayofilo yofila<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis Zma, romelsac<br />
yofil premierTan „antrikotas”<br />
misamarTiT pretenziebi<br />
piradad gamouTqvams. Cveni wyaro<br />
ambobs, rom ivaniSvils gogaSvilis<br />
gaSveba gadawyvetili aqvs,<br />
magram mxolod imaze wuxs, rom<br />
sus-is maRalCinosnis gaSveba<br />
„qronika+”-is aqtivSi ar Caiweros.<br />
gogaSvilis gamosacdeli vada<br />
nel-nela iwureba, magram orive<br />
sakiTxi, romelic man daiwyo, jerjerobiT,<br />
warumateblad viTardeba.<br />
erTi mxriv, saubaria „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is saqmis dasasrulze da<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos mosamarTleebis<br />
SantaJze. mosamarTleebisTvis<br />
saxlSi gagzavnili werilebi<br />
imdenad komikurad gamoiyureba,<br />
rom Zalovan uwyebaSic ki Radaoben<br />
„antrikotas” fantaziebze.<br />
meore Tema, romelic sus-ma<br />
daiwyo da aseve arasasurveli<br />
paralelurad, gazafxulze ivaniSvili<br />
mTavrobisa da konstituciis<br />
Secvlas apirebs. ukve<br />
TiTqmis gadawyvetilia, rom premieris<br />
posts ekonomikis amJamindeli<br />
ministri, giorgi gaxaria<br />
daikavebs. aseve Seicvleba ministrebis<br />
didi nawili. am etapze<br />
kandidaturebs arCeven da procesSi<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis axali favoriti,<br />
pavle kublaSvilic monawileobs.<br />
adgilobrivi arCevnebis<br />
gadagorebas ivaniSvili axali<br />
mTavrobisa da biznesmenTa daxmarebis<br />
axali miliardiani programis<br />
meSveobiT apirebs, magram,<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom mas,<br />
TiTqos, yvelaferi dalagebuli<br />
aqvs, realurad, win mZime dReebi<br />
elis.<br />
ruseTi yofili premierisgan,<br />
xelisuflebaSi moyvanis sanacvlod,<br />
valis gastumrebas moiTxovs.<br />
da es vali gacilebiT mZime<br />
iqneba, vidre dRes vinmes warmoudgenia.<br />
erTi mxriv, saubaria<br />
afxazeTis rkinigzis aRdgenaze<br />
da programa maqsimumi SeiZleba<br />
afxazeTis damoukideblobis<br />
aRiareba iyos!!!<br />
qveynis SigniT ivaniSvilis<br />
uZlevelobis miTi devnilobaSi<br />
myofma saqarTvelos<br />
mesame prezidentma, mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma distanciurad<br />
daangria. ivaniSvilma ver<br />
moaxerxa saakaSvilisTvis<br />
partiis axeva da, Sesabamisad,<br />
misi qarTuli<br />
politikidan distancireba.<br />
metic,<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, anatoli bikovi vadaze<br />
adre gaaTavisufles. rusuli<br />
media werda, rom general<br />
lebedis mkvlelobis Sesaxeb man<br />
gamoZiebas fasdaudebeli informacia<br />
miawoda. varaudoben, bikovma<br />
lebedis mkvlelobis damkveTic<br />
daasaxela.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaros TqmiT,<br />
ivaniSvili putinis mZevalia. aluminis<br />
omma aCvena, rom mas sajaro<br />
qmedebebi ar uyvars da kuliseb-<br />
Si yofna urCevnia. saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg man sakuTari<br />
televizia gayida, ramdenime daaxloebuli<br />
piris garda aravisTan<br />
kontaqtobs, STabeWdilebas qmnis,<br />
rom politikas CamoSorda, magram<br />
vahagan Caxaliani<br />
politpatimris statusiT cixidan<br />
ganTavisuflda, romelic<br />
axla qarTul saxelmwifos strasburgSi<br />
uCivis. Cveni wyaros informaciiT,<br />
javaxeTSi situaciis<br />
asarevad swored „javaxkis” liders,<br />
vahagan Caxalians da mis mier<br />
kontrolirebad separatistebs<br />
gamoiyeneben, javaxeTis damoukideblobis<br />
moTxovniT aqciebi daiwyeba,<br />
xelisufleba am problemas<br />
ver da ar mouvlis, areulobis<br />
SemTxvevaSi ki javaxeTSi rusuli<br />
samxedro nawilebi Semova. galSi<br />
ukve intensiurad mimdinareobs<br />
samxedro qalaqis mSenebloba. Tu<br />
movlenebi am scenariT ganviTarda,<br />
ivaniSvili isev kulisebSi darCeba<br />
da gantevebis vaci saqarTvelos<br />
moqmedi mTavroba iqneba,<br />
Tumca Tu socialuri da politikuri<br />
krizisi farTomasStabian<br />
saprotesto gamosvlebSi gadaizarda,<br />
maSin ivaniSvili xelisuflebas,<br />
ubralod, ver Seinar-<br />
Cunebs, radgan mis davalebebs upirobod<br />
mxolod sus-is ramdenime<br />
maRalCinosani Seasrulebs, sxva<br />
Zalovani uwyebebi, maT Soris, Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa da Tavdacvis saministroebi,<br />
faqtobrivad, CamoSlilia.<br />
rigiTi policielebi da<br />
jariskacebi sakuTari xalxis<br />
winaaRmdeg ivaniSvilis dasacavad<br />
ar gamovlen.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
martis bolos premieri<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvili gadadgeba da<br />
axali mTavrobis dakompleqteba<br />
daiwyeba. eqspertebi varaudoben,<br />
rom politikuri krizisic aqtiur<br />
fazaSi swored am dros Seva.<br />
3
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
statiaSi oTx skandalur Temas<br />
SemogTavazebT!!!<br />
pirveli: konkretuli piris audioCanaweris<br />
srul gaSifrul variants,<br />
romelmac „qronika+”-Tan saubris<br />
dasawyisSive ganacxada, rom<br />
ar eSinia da sakuTar vinaobas arc<br />
malavs, SeuZlia, sajarod ganacxados<br />
es; rom TiToeul sityvaze pasuxismgebelia<br />
da mzad aris, saWiroebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi daadasturos kidec<br />
igi. mxolod, am etapze, patriarqis<br />
germaniidan janmrTelad<br />
Camosvlas daelodeba da manamde<br />
Cvengan srul konfidencialurobas<br />
iTxovs. aRniSnul pirovnebas<br />
garkveuli Tanamdeboba ukavia im<br />
uwyebaSi.<br />
meore: „qronika+” aseve gamoaqveynebs<br />
dokuments, romelic<br />
bulgareTidan maqinaciur tranSs<br />
ukavSirdeba da romlis mixedvi-<br />
Tac, xsenebul movlenebamde ramdenime<br />
xniT adre, sapatriarqos<br />
kuTvnili Senoba misma direqtroma<br />
_ mama giorgi mamalaZem sofiaSi<br />
mcxovreb kerZo pirs Caudo ipoTekaSi<br />
12,5 milon dolarad.<br />
mesame: audioCanaweri, sadac<br />
saxeldeba mama giorgi mamalaZisadmi<br />
2017 wlis 10 Tebervals misadagebuli<br />
108-e muxli (ssk ganzrax<br />
mkvleloba, mkvlelobis momzadeba,<br />
an Tanamonawileoba, _ T. r.).<br />
Canaweris mixedviT, mama giorgi<br />
sazRvarze, ufro sworad, sazRvris<br />
gadakveTis Semdeg aiyvanes, rodesac<br />
kievis (da ara germaniis, rogorc<br />
informacia gavrcelda) mimarTulebiT<br />
mifrinavda. igi im<br />
droisTvis ukve „gawiTlebuli”<br />
(wiTel cirkularSi Sesuli) iyo,<br />
Tumca ayvanis Semdeg moexsna. Cveni<br />
wyaro ayvanis TariRsa da muxls<br />
asaxelebs. aseve imas, rom es dekanozisTvis<br />
pirveli SemTxveva ar<br />
yofila. pirvelad igi 2011 wels<br />
daakaves aWaraSi sapatriarqos miwebis<br />
gasxvisebasTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
meoTxe: saubris Canaweri sapatriarqos<br />
samSobiaros sapatio<br />
direqtorTan, marika barnovasTan,<br />
romelmac „qronika+”-Tan ganacxada,<br />
rom 10 Tebervals dilis 6 saaTze<br />
mama giorgi mamalaZe samSobiaroSi<br />
movarda, Tavis kabinetSi Sevarda,<br />
yvelaferi moxveta da gaiqca.<br />
oTxi saaTis Semdeg, dilis 10<br />
saaTze, prokuraturidan Cxrekis<br />
orderiT jgufi movida, mama giorgi<br />
mamalaZis kabinetSi Sevida, gamoitana<br />
da waiRo... sakmeveli. meti<br />
araferi! kompaqtdiskebi ar wauRiaT,<br />
iqve gaxsnes.<br />
direqtorisa da samSobiaros<br />
TanamSromlebTan gasaubrebis Semdeg<br />
„qronika+”-is kiTxvaze, _ narkotikebs<br />
xom ar eZebdnen, anu sakmeveli<br />
rad undodaT? gvipasuxes,<br />
rom „narkotikebze uaresio”.<br />
„qronika+” Cven mier momzadebuli<br />
gamoZiebis arc erT nawilSi ar<br />
afiqsirebs Tavis azrs. mxolod da<br />
mxolod faqtebs vaaSkaravebT. ki-<br />
Txvasac ar davsvamT, ratom da ra<br />
qimiur nivTierebas eZebda prokuratura<br />
(da ara Sss) mama giorgi mamalaZis<br />
kabinetSi. Cvenc, Cveni respondentebis<br />
ar iyos, uwmindesis<br />
saqarTveloSi janmrTelad Camosvlas<br />
davelodebiT, vinaidan, am<br />
etapze, mTavari es aris.<br />
manamde ki faqtebis konstatacia:<br />
dasawyisi.<br />
sad daigegma?<br />
Canaweri #1<br />
„sanam 10 Tebervals momxdar<br />
movlenebamde mival, rodesac prokuratura<br />
sapatriarqos kuTvnil<br />
samSobiaroSi Cxrekis orderiT<br />
Semovida, sazogadoebam imis Sesaxeb<br />
unda gaigos, ra uZRoda amas win.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yvelaferi aqedan daiwyo. „wminda<br />
anasa da ioakimes saxelobis samSobiaros”<br />
yvela icnobs, rogorc sapatriarqos<br />
kuTvnilebaSi myof<br />
saavadmyofos. 2008 wlamde is TarxniSvilis<br />
quCa 4-Si mdebareobda.<br />
Senoba-nageboba 4000 kv.m.-mde iyo<br />
4000 kv.m.-ve masze mimagrebuli miwis<br />
nakveTiT. aRniSnuli teritoria<br />
„emjai” jgufis samizne gaxda,<br />
romlis ukanac manana SaraSiZe idga.<br />
2007 wels, rodesac saavadmyofoebis<br />
privatizaciis procesi<br />
daiwyo, jandacvis saministrom SemogvTavaza,<br />
koleqtivs privatizeba<br />
gagvekeTebina, magram es Tema<br />
CvenTvis imdenad ucnobi iyo, garkveulma<br />
jgufma privatizaciaze<br />
uari Tqva da sapatriarqos mimar-<br />
Ta, raTa mas Tavisi frTis qveS<br />
aveyvaneT. gvegona, rom amiT Senobas<br />
gadavarCendiT, magram, rogorc<br />
mogvianebiT aRmoCnda, Senoba-nageboba<br />
ekonomikis saministros<br />
qonebis marTvis gankargulebaSi<br />
darCa, Sps „wm. anasa da ioakimes<br />
saxelobis samSobiaro” ki sapatriarqos<br />
qveSemdgomobaSi gadavida.<br />
ekonomikis saministrom sapatriarqosTan<br />
SeTanxmebiT tenderi<br />
Caatara, sadac monawileoba miaRebines<br />
mxolod erT kompanias, Sps<br />
„emjais” da samSobiaros Senoba<br />
masve gadaeca. amrigad, 2007 wels<br />
1000 dolarad gaviyideT. avtexeT<br />
erTi ambavi da sapatriarqoSi gavaprotesteT.<br />
am dros Cveni generaluri<br />
direqtori aris mama adami.<br />
amis Semdeg sapatriarqo molaparakebas<br />
awarmoebs ekonomikis saministrosTan<br />
da ekonomikis saministro<br />
sapatriarqos erT dolarad<br />
uTmobs yofili samxedro hospitlis<br />
Senobas _ e. w. barnovis klinikas,<br />
romelic orTaWalaSi mdebareobs.<br />
manana SaraSiZe, Tavis mxriv,<br />
pirobas debs, rom iq axal klinikas<br />
aaSenebs, Zvel Senobas gaaremontebs<br />
da orives Tanamedrove<br />
standartebis Sesabamisad aRWurvavs.<br />
rac samuSao xelSekrulebaSi<br />
Caido, dRemde ar Sesrulebula.<br />
magaliTad, xelSekrulebaSi<br />
Caido, rom axali nageboba 18 Tve-<br />
Si unda aSenebuliyo, winaaRmdeg<br />
SemTxvevaSi, pirobebi darRveulad<br />
CaiTvleboda. 18 Tve ise gavida,<br />
rom im qals araferi gaukeTebia.<br />
bolos da bolos, didi xmauris<br />
Semdeg, am samuSao procesSi CagvrTes.<br />
janaSvilis saproeqto institutma,<br />
rogorc iqna, Cveni klinikis<br />
proeqti moamzada, klnikisTvis<br />
fundamenti amoTxares, uwmindesi<br />
Rame moiyvanes, anaxes, rom<br />
ai, aq aSendeba wminda ioakimesa da<br />
cianidi<br />
anas samSobiaroo. amis Semdeg uwmindesi<br />
wavida da meore dResve<br />
saZirkvlis naxevari amoavses, anu<br />
klinikis farTobi Seamcires. Sepirebuli<br />
da patriarqisTvis naCvenebi<br />
proeqtis nacvlad ufro patara<br />
Senoba aSenda. fundamentis meore<br />
naxevari nayari miwiT amoavses,<br />
zemodan asfalti gadaages da<br />
manqanebis sadgomi gaakeTes. erT<br />
dilas mivediT da miwa Cavardnili<br />
dagvxvda. es rom dRisiT momxdariyo,<br />
manqanebis garda xalxsac<br />
Caiyolebda. am Cavardnam samSobiaros<br />
mTeli<br />
sakanalizacio<br />
sistema daaziana.<br />
aqve aRvni-<br />
Snav, rom mama<br />
adami Zalian<br />
ewinaaRmdegeboda Cvens gadasvlas,<br />
amitom igi generalur direqtorobas<br />
CamoaSores da vato surgulaZe<br />
gamouSves, romelmac TarxniSvilis<br />
quCidan uswrafesad gadagvabarga<br />
gaurkveveli xarisxiT<br />
aSenebul SenobaSi. es aris 2012<br />
wlis seqtember-oqtombris mijna.<br />
koleqtivi oTaxebs vclidiT da<br />
ukan brigada mogvyveboda didi<br />
uroebiT, romlebic svel wertilebs<br />
amtvrevdnen: Tu arCevnebis<br />
Semdeg mTavrobis Semadgenloba<br />
Seicvleboda, xelSekruleba axal<br />
xelisuflebas ar gaeuqmebina da<br />
ukan ar movbrunebuliyaviT. gadavediT<br />
axal SenobaSi da ras vxedavT?!<br />
_ unitazSi cxeli wyali<br />
modis, onkanSi _ civi, kanalizaciidan<br />
calke wyali asxams. mokled,<br />
yvelaferi xelmeored gasakeTebeli<br />
gaxda da gakeTda kidec samSobiaros<br />
biujetidan.<br />
miuxedavad aseTi pirobebisa,<br />
muSaoba sruli datvirTviT midioda.<br />
TarxniSvilis quCidan saxelic<br />
gamogvyva da pacientebic. 2014<br />
wlis maisSi vato surgulaZe irakli<br />
sasaniaTi Caanacvles.<br />
samSobiaros koleqtivi direqtorebis<br />
aseTi cvlilebiT daiRala<br />
da sapatriarqoSi manana Sara-<br />
SiZes mimarTa. es qali bevr rames<br />
wyvetda. magaliTd, erTxel, roca<br />
sapatriarqoSi mivediT, manana SaraSiZe<br />
erT-erTi samyoflidan CustebiT<br />
gamovida. mokled, samSobiaros<br />
koleqtivma SaraSiZes sTxova,<br />
dagvitove vato surgulaZe,<br />
saqmes akeTebs da pacientic sul<br />
gvyavso. SaraSiZem gvipasuxa: mase<br />
sad aris, erTi ar mosula aq da sapatriarqoSi<br />
kapiki ar Camoutaniao.<br />
movida irakli sasania da moiyvana<br />
Tavisi jgufi. „emerjensi”<br />
moindoma da Zalian gagvixarda,<br />
magram maleve poloneTidan „emerjensis”<br />
xelmZRvanelad qali Camoiyvana,<br />
romelsac TveSi 15 aTasi<br />
lari dauniSna. xelmZRvanelobas<br />
xelfasebi 10-15 aTasi laris farglebSi<br />
daeniSnaT, yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
sami aTas larze naklebi<br />
aravis hqonda. am dros, Cvens<br />
ginekologebs, romelTac ofliT<br />
da sisxliT, saSualod, dReSi or<br />
sicocxlesTan hqondaT saqme, Tve-<br />
Si 500-600 laric ar gamosdiodaT.<br />
irakli sasaniam remonti daiwyo. es<br />
kargia, magram xom unda gamokveTo,<br />
romelia prioritetuli?<br />
da ai, erT mSvenier dRes, 2015<br />
wlis seqtembers, sapatriarqom<br />
CvenTan dekanozi mama giorgi mamalaZe<br />
moavlina. manamde, 2015<br />
wlis maisSi, gavigeT, rom sapatriarqom<br />
samSobiaroSi auditi gamoagzavna,<br />
raTa sasanias saqmianoba<br />
gamoekvlia. seqtemberSi koleqtivs<br />
saerTo krebaze gveZaxian.<br />
dekanozi giorgi mamalaZe modis<br />
da gveubneba: me var sapatriarqos<br />
qonebis dacvis departamentis xelmZRvaneli.<br />
sapatriarqom damavala,<br />
viTareba Semeswavla da am<br />
mizniT Cemi auditi irma CxaiZe gamovuSvi.<br />
Cven yvelaferi SeviswavleT,<br />
magram raRac sakiTxebi ver<br />
gavarkvieT da axla koleqtivs dagiZaxeT,<br />
TqvenTan erTad gvinda,<br />
gaviaroT; SekiTxva maqvs sasaniasTan,<br />
vinaidan Cemma auditma iq naxa,<br />
rom didi Tanxebia premiebis saxiT<br />
gacemuli TanamSromlebze, aiReT<br />
vinmem premiao? Cven vupasuxeT,<br />
rom premia ki ara, xelfasebs ver<br />
viRebT wesierad. 2014 wlis 6 Tvis<br />
xelfasi ar gvqonda aRebuli. amis<br />
Semdeg dekanozi mama giorgi mamalaZe<br />
gvekiTxeba, _ 18 aTas larad<br />
Sefasebuli kuloni irakli<br />
sasaniam romel TanamSromels ga-<br />
CuqaTo? mis gverdze mjdar sasanias<br />
saxeze Rimili SeaSra da eubneba,<br />
_ mamao, es aq gasarkvevi saqme<br />
ar ariso... razec dekanozma upasuxa,<br />
_ aq imitom vambob, rom<br />
TqvenTan ver gavarkvieo.<br />
am saerTo krebis Semdeg irakli<br />
sasaniam direqtoris posti datova<br />
da movida dekanozi mama giorgi<br />
mamalaZe. sasanias wasvlis Semdeg<br />
mama giorgis movTxoveT, auditis<br />
daskvna moeca, romelic Caatara<br />
da romliTac wina direqtors<br />
4 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`sakmevelSi~?!<br />
brali dasdo, imitom, rom vato<br />
surgulaZemac da irakli sasaniamac<br />
yvelas gadmogvigzavnes manamde<br />
Catarebuli auditis eleqtroversiebi.<br />
Cvenda gasakvirad, sasanias<br />
wasvlis Semdeg mama giorgi kardinalurad<br />
Seicvala. misi pasuxi<br />
iyo, rom Tqven aq aravin xarT, am<br />
Sps-s mflobeli sapatriarqoa da<br />
igi ar miiCnevs saWirod daskvnis<br />
gasajaroebaso.<br />
gadis garkveuli periodi da<br />
dekanozi giorgi mamalaZe gveubneba,<br />
rom Cemi piradi kontaqtebiT<br />
molaparakebas vawarmoeb, raTa<br />
grantis saxiT didi Tanxa gadmogviricxon,<br />
romelic am klinikas<br />
moxmardebao. vkiTxeT, _ grants vin<br />
dagaxarjinebT saxelfaso davalianebazeo?<br />
magram Cvens kiTxvaze<br />
igi Seuracxadi xdeboda. cota xan-<br />
Si, vigebT, rom dekanozma giorgi<br />
mamalaZem klinika ukrainis moqalaqe<br />
viRac sergei jambovs Caudo<br />
ipoTekaSi, romelsac Sps sofiaSi,<br />
rvasarTulian „xruSCovkaSi”<br />
hqonda daregistrirebuli. is mama<br />
giorgis 12,5 milion dolars<br />
uricxavda. piroba aseTi iyo: fuli<br />
6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi tranSebad<br />
unda wamosuliyo, aqedan pirveli<br />
_ 70 dRis ganmavlobaSi 2,5 milioni<br />
dolari unda daricxuliyo. Tu<br />
es grafiki dairRveoda, xelSekruleba<br />
baTilad iqneboda cnobili.<br />
magram Tu Cveni mxridan es<br />
Tanxa aramiznobrivad daixarjeboda,<br />
jambovi klinikas daitovebda.<br />
es xdeba 2016 wlis aprilSi. mama<br />
giorgim dagvibara da gviTxra: amas<br />
imitom ar geubnebodiT, ki ar gimalavdiT,<br />
ubralod, ar mindoda,<br />
generviulaTo. vTxoveT, biznesgegma<br />
enaxvebina, romelic jambovs<br />
warudgina, razedac gvipasuxa, rom<br />
ase advili ggoniaT biznesgegmis<br />
dawerao? ai, pirveli fuli rom<br />
mova, 40 aTas dolars gadavixdiT<br />
da biznesgegmas dagviwereno. anu<br />
yvelani idiotebad migviCnia! avuxseniT,<br />
_ ase giTxres, mamao, rom<br />
jer fuls gamogigzavniT da mere<br />
biznesgegma dagvawieo?! amaze wamogvixta,<br />
daavlo xeli leptops<br />
da, _ am xelSekrulebas dResve gavauqmebo!<br />
amaze vupasuxeT, _ ki magram,<br />
sanotaro momsaxurebaSi 11<br />
aTasi lari gaqvT gadaxdili sam-<br />
Sobiaros biujetidan da imas ras<br />
uzamTo? aqedan daiwyo Cveni imedebis<br />
rRveva. ipoTeka agvistoSi<br />
moxsnes da sapatriarqom valdebulebaSi<br />
Cawera, rom ikrZaleba<br />
samSobiaros Senobis gasxviseba,<br />
ipoTekaSi Cadeba da a. S. rogorc<br />
Cans, es ambavi sapatriarqomde<br />
mivida. mama giorgis amisTvis pasuxi<br />
aravin mosTxova. Cvenc kiTxvebi<br />
ar dagvisvams, radgan vicodiT,<br />
rom dekanozi giorgi mamalaZe<br />
patriarqis garemocvis axlo<br />
wevria. kerZod, patriarqis ZmisSvilis,<br />
meufe dimitris qaliSvili<br />
patriarqis dacvis ufrosis, soso<br />
oxanaSvilis colia, oxanaSvilis<br />
da ki aris mama giorgi mamalaZis<br />
coli.<br />
erT mSvenier dRes aWaridan<br />
dagvirekes da gveubnebian, _ es<br />
Tqveni mamao rom mimdgara da boboyvaTis<br />
miwebs ukrainelebze yidis,<br />
Tu iciTo? sapatriarqos miwebzea<br />
saubari. Cven mxolod is<br />
vicodiT, rom es kaci TveSi erTiorjer<br />
Tu Cndeboda samSobiaro-<br />
Si. sad aris? _ vkiTxulobdiT da,<br />
_ mivlinebaSiao. vin miavlina da ra<br />
xarjebiT, an sad? samSobiaro im<br />
kondiciamde miiyvana, rom dRes<br />
xelfasi ar gvaqvs, pacienti ar<br />
gvyavs da kaciSvili Cveni patroni<br />
ar aris.<br />
gagrZeleba.<br />
rogor daigegma?<br />
Canaweri #2<br />
„10 Tebervals samsaxurSi mivedi<br />
da meubnebian, rom mamaom dilis<br />
6 saaTze moirbina, Tavis oTax-<br />
Si Sevarda, axveta Tavisi raRacebi<br />
da wavidao. manamde, bolo erTi<br />
kvira, RamRamobiT dadioda da vi-<br />
Rac xalxi mohyavda. TanamSromlebma<br />
kiTxva rom dasves, upasuxa,<br />
komisia ariso. komisia Ramis 11-12<br />
saaTze?! gvikvirda, magram gavCumdiT.<br />
mokled, 10 Tebervals samsaxurSi<br />
misuls meubnebian, rom mamaom<br />
Tavisi yvelaferi axveta da wavida.<br />
mere 10 saaTze xuTkaciani<br />
jgufi m Cxrekis orderiTovida.<br />
dauZaxes iurists _ nata induaSvils.<br />
zogadad, rodesac iurists<br />
Cxrekaze iswreben, imas yovelTvis<br />
eubnebian, raze movidnen. Cxrekis<br />
Semdeg iuristi „mkvdari” gamovida.<br />
SevekiTxeT, magram gviTxra,<br />
rom ar vicio. saxeze feri ar edo.<br />
prokuraturis xalxi xuTi iyo,<br />
oTxi kaci da erTi qali. mamaos<br />
kabinetSi Sevidnen da raRac ori<br />
diski gamoitanes. nata induaSvils<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
ra Wirda, ar vici, xmas ver iRebda.<br />
Cxrekis Semdeg araferi Tqves, mxolod<br />
gangvimartes, rom mizezs<br />
gamoZiebis interesebidan gamomdinare<br />
ver getyviTo. induaSvilma<br />
mxolod Cxrekis orderi naxa,<br />
danarCens aravis anaxes. induaSvili<br />
amis Semdeg enaCavardnili<br />
ijda”.<br />
Canaweri #3<br />
„dekanozi giorgi mamalaZe pirvelad<br />
2011 wels daakaves baTumSi.<br />
dakavebuli iyo da izolatorSic<br />
imyofeboda sasaflaos ukanonod<br />
gasxvisebaze. meore iyo, aq rac ewera:<br />
10.02.17-Si aiyvanes izolator-<br />
Si, muxli 108. saRamos gadakveTa<br />
sazRvari da gaawiTles. es niSnavs<br />
gawiTlebas”.<br />
mowmeebi<br />
Tavdapirvelad „qronika+” sam-<br />
Sobiaros iurists, nata induaS-<br />
vils daukavSirda, romelic mama<br />
giorgi mamalaZis kabinetis Cxre-<br />
kas daeswro:<br />
_ qalbatono nata, 10-Si samSo-<br />
biaroSi Cxrekaze prokuratura<br />
Semovida, romelsac Tqven daesw-<br />
ariT.<br />
marika barnova<br />
_ xelmZRvanelobas daukavSirdiT.<br />
_ xelmZRvanelobas ukve da-<br />
vukavSirdi. isini Cxrekas ar<br />
daswrebian da oqmze xeli ar mou-<br />
weriaT. Cxrekas Tqven daeswariT?<br />
_ gasagebia, magram xelmZRvanelobas<br />
daukavSirdiT.<br />
„qronika+” „wminda anasa da<br />
ioakimes saxelobis samSobiaros”<br />
sapatio direqtors, marika barno-<br />
vas gaesaubra:<br />
_ 10 Tebervals TqvenTan pro-<br />
kuratura Cxrekaze Semovida?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ saqmis kursSi xarT, ra xde-<br />
ba?<br />
_ Cven mxolod imis saqmis kurs-<br />
Si varT, rom Cxreka iyo da bavSvebi<br />
ar varT. vxvdebiT, rom seriozuli<br />
viTarebaa da raRac mniSvnelovani<br />
xdeba.<br />
_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />
_ finansur gaflangvaze rom ar<br />
Semovidoda, faqtia, radgan iseTi<br />
gaflangulia wlebis manZilze,<br />
rom gapartaxebulia. ase rom, ar<br />
mgonia, es yvelaferi hospitals<br />
ukavSirdebodes. es Cemi subieqturi<br />
azria. xom xvdebiT, prokuratura<br />
orderiT modis da mamaos<br />
kabinetSi Cxrekas atarebs.<br />
_ TqvenTvis cnobili Tua, rom<br />
2011 wels am pirovnebaze saqme<br />
iyo aRZruli boboyvaTis miwebis<br />
gasxvisebasTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ axla mesmis ukve raRacebi,<br />
rom Turme da Turmeo. Cven piriqiT,<br />
rom davinaxeT, rom sasuliero<br />
piri gamogvigzavna sapatriarqom<br />
daqceuli finansuri mdgomareobis<br />
fonze, Zalian gagvixarda,<br />
rom sasuliero piria da ilocebs.<br />
menejments ki gavmarTavdiT.<br />
rogorc Cans, kidev raRac iluziebSi<br />
vcxovrobdiT.<br />
_ rodesac kerZo pirs samSobiaros<br />
Senoba 12,5 milion dola-<br />
rad ipoTekaSi Caudo, arc maSin<br />
gagiCndaT kiTxvebi?<br />
_ iciT ra, sasuliero piri movida,<br />
gagvixarda, sapatriarqo finansurad<br />
Zlieri organizaciaa. Tan,<br />
mag dokuments ar axmaurebda, imitom,<br />
rom iqneb, ar gamovides da ar<br />
minda, rom winaswar vTqvao. saqarTvelo<br />
patara qveyanaa da araferi<br />
imaleba. gavigeT, rom raRac<br />
grantze iyo saubari. ipoTeka gamodga...<br />
mere mivxvdiT, rodesac ramdenime<br />
Tve gavida, weli, magram<br />
afera ar gvegona. Cven ufro vfiqrobdiT,<br />
rom ver akeTebda. magram<br />
axla rac gavigeT, SokSi varT.<br />
_ vin ganixileba Semcvlelad,<br />
an movaleobis Semsruleblad?<br />
_ magaze imtvrevs Tavs axla<br />
koleqtivi. ramdenimes surs...<br />
_ magaliTad, samSobiaros finansur<br />
direqtors, vefxia odiSar-<br />
ias?<br />
_ mis mimarT kargi ganwyoba<br />
maqvs, magram koleqtivs ar mounda,<br />
masac gauWirdeba, ise aris da-<br />
Zabuli situacia da iseTi imedgacrueba<br />
aqvs miRebuli koleqtivs.<br />
_ rogorc vici, „jipisim” Tavi-<br />
si warmomadgeneli gamoagzavna,<br />
meufe andria iyo mosuli, goris<br />
mitropoliti da ver SeTanxmd-<br />
nen?<br />
_ aseTi variantic iyo, magram aq<br />
SigniT iTqva, rom koleqtivi garedan<br />
aRaravis SemouSvebs, imitom<br />
rom koleqtivi gamwarebuli da<br />
gaubedurebulia.<br />
_ irina ciskariZe krizisebis<br />
marTvis menejeria samSobiaroSi,<br />
ara?<br />
_ diax, mamaom moiyvana. naTesavia<br />
Tu klaseli, ar vici.<br />
_ iuristi nata induaSvili<br />
prokuraturis mier warmoebul<br />
Cxrekas daeswro?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ mxolod kabineti gaCrikes?<br />
_ diax, mxolod mamaos kabineti<br />
gaCxrikes.<br />
_ kabinetidan gamotanili dis-<br />
kebi ratom ver gaxsnes?<br />
_ diax, diskebi ver gaxsnes, gamoitanes<br />
da gareT gaxsnes kompiuterSi.<br />
waRebiT ki raRac waiRes.<br />
_ ra?<br />
_ sakmevelio.<br />
_ sakmeveli?<br />
_ diax... didxans eZebdnen raRacas<br />
da mere sakmeveli waiReso, magram<br />
Cxrekamde ramdenime saaTiT<br />
adre, sanam prokuratura movidoda,<br />
mamao iyo mosuli hospitalSi.<br />
_ anu izolatoridan rom<br />
gamouSves, mere movida pirdapir<br />
hospitalSi?<br />
_ albaT. mokled, did deteqtivSi<br />
varT CarTulebi. Zalian<br />
gawvalebulia policia.<br />
„qronika+” sapatriarqos pres-<br />
samsaxuris ufross, mama daviT<br />
SaraSeniZes daukavSirda:<br />
_ mama daviT, ratom Caatara<br />
Cxreka prokuraturam mama gior-<br />
gi mamalaZis samuSao kabinetSi?<br />
_ vera...<br />
_ batono?<br />
_ axla dakavebuli var, sxva<br />
dros damirekeT.<br />
mama daviT SaraSeniZe telefons<br />
miTiSavs, rac misTvis namdvilad<br />
ar aris Cveuli.<br />
saqmes grifi adevs. Cven ar davwerT<br />
imas, rac daiwera da gaJRerda<br />
_ patriarqis cianidiT mowamvlis<br />
mcdelobaze. ar davwerT<br />
imas, rogor Cavida germaniaSi saxelmwifo<br />
uSiSroebis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi anzor CubiniZe, rogor gamouSves<br />
germaniidan saqarTveloSi<br />
patriarqis dacvis ufrosi soso<br />
oxanaSvili da prokuraturaSi miiyvanes<br />
dakiTxvaze.<br />
5
giorgi mefariZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
politikuri moZraoba „axali saqarTvelos” warmomadgeneli,<br />
monitoringis centr „mediatoris” lideri, levan xabeiS-<br />
vili, axali iniciativebiT gamodis:<br />
1. biurokratiuli xarjebis, minimum, ganaxevreba, rac gulisxmobs<br />
rigi a(a)ip-ebis, ssip-ebisa da saqalaqo samsaxurebis sa-<br />
erTod gauqmebas da proeqtul marTvaze gadasvlas; 2. Tbilisi<br />
farexebis gareSe; 3. mSeneblobis nebarTvis gacemaze moratori-<br />
umis gamocxadeba mWidrod dasaxlebul ubnebSi; 4. gamwvaneba<br />
korpusis saxuravebzec; 5. ekoparkingi; 6. meriis TanamSromleb-<br />
is, maT Soris, saqalaqo samsaxuris ufrosebis, moadgileebis,<br />
ganyofilebis ufrosebis, gamgeblebis, maTi moadgileebisa da<br />
rigiTi TanamSromlebis muSaobis eleqtronuli kontroli.<br />
am winadadebebze ufro dawvrilebiT<br />
sasaubrod „qronika+”-ma<br />
levan xabeiSvils mimar-<br />
Ta:<br />
_ qveyanaSi mZime ekonomikuri,<br />
socialuri da politikuri realobis<br />
garda, aseve aris problemebi,<br />
romlis mogvareba TviTmmarTvelobebis<br />
donezea Sesa-<br />
Zlebeli. amasTan, rogorc sxvadasxva<br />
mimarTulebiT, aseve Tvi-<br />
TmmarTvelobis mimarTulebi-<br />
Tac Zireuli da fundamenturi<br />
cvlilebebia saWiro.<br />
is, rom dedaqalaqis meria<br />
(rogorc sxva qalaqebis municipalitetebi)<br />
ver pasuxobs gamowvevebsa<br />
da problemebs (rac<br />
adgilze moqalaqeebs aqvT), amas<br />
nebismieri moqalaqe dagidasturebT.<br />
Zalian susti, araefeqtiani,<br />
uunaro da korumpirebuli<br />
dedaqalaqis mTavroba gvyavs<br />
TbilisSi. maT korumpirebulobas,<br />
faqtobrivad, yovel Tve, Zalovani<br />
uwyebebic adastureben<br />
sxvadasxva Tanamdebobis piris<br />
ayvaniT, romlebsac qrTamis aRebis<br />
faqtze akaveben.<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi<br />
karzea momdgari da garda sakanonmdeblo<br />
da saarCevno doneze<br />
regulaciebisa, aseve saWroa<br />
iniciativebi, romlebic dedaqalaqis<br />
realur ganviTarebas<br />
uzrunvelyofs.<br />
am droisTvis Cveni politikuri<br />
gaerTianeba sxvadasxva arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciasa da<br />
samoqalaqo pirTan im iniciativebze<br />
muSaobs, romlebic dedaqalaqs<br />
realuri ganviTarebis<br />
saSualebas miscems.<br />
pirveli da umniSvnelovanesi<br />
aris biurokratiuli xarjebis,<br />
minimum, ganaxevreba, rac gulisxmobs<br />
rigi a(a)ip-ebis, ssip-ebisa<br />
da saqalaqo samsaxurebis saerTod<br />
gauqmebas da proeqtul<br />
marTvaze gadasvlas. is, rom biurokratia<br />
gazrdilia, amas mowmobs<br />
londonis meriis magaliTic,<br />
sadac 835 adamiani muSaobs,<br />
Cveni dedaqalaqis meriaSi ki _<br />
5700 (mxolod meriis administraciasa<br />
da saqalaqo samsaxureb-<br />
Si 1000-ze meti adamiani muSaobs).<br />
rac Seexeba qalaqis parametrebs,<br />
rogorc farTobiT, aseve<br />
mosaxleobiT, ra Tqma unda,<br />
udidesi gansxvavebaa. mosaxleobis<br />
mixedviT londoni 7-jer,<br />
xolo farTobiT, minimum, 2-jer<br />
didia. londonisa da Tbilisis<br />
meriis muSaobis margi qmedebis<br />
koeficientsa da maT Sedarebaze<br />
aRar SevCerdebi.<br />
roca vsaubrobT biurokratiis<br />
ganaxevrebaze, ra Tqma unda,<br />
vgulisxmobT zedmeti TanamSromlebis<br />
ganTavisuflebasac.<br />
Tumca am problemazec vifiqreT<br />
da SesaZlebelia, erTi<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi ganTavisuflebul<br />
TanamSromlebs, yovelTviurad,<br />
xelfasis 80% gadavuxadoT.<br />
es SesaZleblobas mogvcems,<br />
pirvelsave wels davzogoT xelfasis<br />
20%, premiebi, danamatebi,<br />
maT mier moxmarebuli eleqtroenergia,<br />
gaTboba, Senobebi,<br />
sadac ganlagebulia a(a)ip-ebi,<br />
ssip-ebi da saqalaqo samsaxurebi.<br />
reformis Sedegad pirvel<br />
wels davzogavT, minimum, 30 milion<br />
lars, xolo momdevno wlidan,<br />
mas Semdeg, rac yofil moxeleebTan<br />
valdebulebac aRar<br />
gveqneba, 50-60 milioni lari<br />
gamoTavisufldeba.<br />
proeqtuli marTva gazrdis<br />
konkurencias, samoqalaqo CarTulobas,<br />
samoqalaqo zedamxedvelobas<br />
da, rac mTavaria, xarisxsa<br />
da efeqtianobas.<br />
levan xabeiSvili:<br />
`Zalian susti,<br />
uunaro da<br />
korumpirebuli<br />
dedaqalaqis<br />
mTavroba gvyavs<br />
TbilisSi!~<br />
meore iniciativa exeba dedaqalaqis<br />
ganTavisuflebas farexebisgan.<br />
rac unda mtkivneuli<br />
da miuRebeli iyos farexebis<br />
mepatroneebisTvis es iniciativa,<br />
qalaqis iersaxisTvis da ekologiisTvis<br />
sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania.<br />
iniciativis gamocxadebidan<br />
erT weliwadSi TbilisSi<br />
aRar unda arsebobdes arc<br />
erTi farexi, rac saSualebas mogvcems,<br />
damatebiT moewyos skverebi<br />
da sarekreacio zonebi.<br />
mesame iniciativa exeba mSeneblobis<br />
nebarTvis gacemaze moratoriumis<br />
gamocxadebas, rac<br />
gulisxmobs, rom mSeneblobis<br />
nebarTvis gacema aikrZaleba aw<br />
ukve mWidrod dasaxlebul ubnebSi.<br />
mSenebloba nebadarTuli<br />
iqneba mxolod im adgilebSi, sadac<br />
am droisTvisac aris sacxovrebeli<br />
farTobi.<br />
magaliTad, e. w. xruSCovkebis<br />
adgilze dainteresebuli investoris<br />
SemTxvevaSi mas gamartivebuli<br />
wesiT SeeZleba yvela<br />
biurokratiuli procesis gavla<br />
gonivrulobis farglebSi, gaiTvaliswineben<br />
mis interesebsa da<br />
korspusis parametrebs...<br />
garda imisa, rom sokoebiviT<br />
gaCenil korpusebs aviridebT,<br />
romlebic aranair arqiteqturul<br />
gemovnebaSi ar jdeba (maT<br />
daviT narmania<br />
Soris, safrTxes uqmnis Cvens<br />
moqalaqeebs), aseve wavaxalisebT<br />
e. w. xruSovkebis Canacvlebas.<br />
meoTxe iniciativa dedaqalaqSi<br />
mZime ekologiur mdgomareobas<br />
exeba. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom daviT narmania Tbiliselebs<br />
mwvane walkotis gaSenebas<br />
dahpirda, realurad, „betonis<br />
junglebi” miviReT. faqtia, am<br />
mimarTulebiT mniSvnelovani<br />
nabijebia gadasadgmeli, rom ekologiur<br />
katastrofamde ar<br />
mivideT. es maSin, roca Tbilisis<br />
meriis ekologiis samsaxur-<br />
Si TanamSromlebi korufciiT<br />
arian dakavebulebi. aviRoT ukanaskneli<br />
faqti: ramdenime dRis<br />
winaT ekologiis samsaxurisa da<br />
naZaladevis raionis gamgeobis<br />
TanamSromeli daakaves.<br />
Cveni iniciativa korpusebis<br />
saxuravebze gamwvanebis mowyobas<br />
exeba. es SesaZlebelia Tbilisis<br />
amxanagobebis programis<br />
farglebSi, sadac TanadafinansebiT,<br />
Sesabamisi daskvnis safu-<br />
Zvelze, SesaZlebeli gaxdeba,<br />
korpusis saxuravebze moewyos<br />
gamwvaneba. rig SemTxvevaSi Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia, minikafeebisa da dasasvenebeli<br />
obieqtebis mowyobac.<br />
absoluturad realisturi<br />
da ganxorcielebadi iniciativaa.<br />
mondomebis SemTxvevaSi, Cveni<br />
daTvliT, 4 weliwadSi yovel<br />
meoTxe korpusze SesaZlebelia<br />
mwvane sivrcis arseboba, rac<br />
mniSvnelovnad gaaumjobesebs<br />
ekologiur mdgomareobas.<br />
mexuTe iniciativa exeba ekoparkings.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi es konkretuli<br />
iniciativa TbilisSi<br />
erT-erTi korpusis Tavmjdomarem<br />
mogvawoda, romelmac am mimarTulebiT<br />
sakmaod bevri imuSava.<br />
Teoriulad amis warmodgena<br />
rTulia, Tumca vizualurad<br />
Zalian ioli gasagebia, ras<br />
gulisxmobs ekoparkingi, anu mwvane<br />
gazonebis mowyoba ise, rom<br />
avtomobilis gaCerebis SemTxvevaSic<br />
mwvane zols problema<br />
ar Seeqmnas.<br />
meeqvse iniciativa exeba meriis<br />
TanamSromlebis, maT Soris,<br />
saqalaqo samsaxuris ufrosebis,<br />
moadgileebis, ganyofilebis<br />
ufrosebis, gamgeblebis, maTi<br />
moadgileebisa da rigiTi Tanam-<br />
Sromlebis muSaobis eleqtronul<br />
kontrols.<br />
yvela Tbilisels onlainre-<br />
JimSi unda SeeZlos naxos, romeli<br />
Tanamdebobis piri Tu rigi-<br />
Ti TanamSromeli imyofeba samsaxurSi,<br />
an Tu asrulebs samsaxurebriv<br />
movaleobas Senobis gareT<br />
samuSao saaTebSi.<br />
es yvelaferi moagvarebs e. w.<br />
yavistebis, usaqmurebisa da upasuxismgeblo<br />
TanamSromlebis<br />
problemas. aseve eleqtronulad<br />
xelmisawvdomi unda iyos<br />
yvela TanamSromlis dRis „reporti”,<br />
anu ras saqmianobda<br />
dRis ganmavlobaSi. esec martivi<br />
da programulad gamarTvadia,<br />
survilisa da nebis SemTxvevaSi.<br />
es ar aris srulyofili iniciativebi,<br />
romelic Cvens politikur<br />
moZraobas aqvs. es<br />
aris minimaluri iniciativebi,<br />
romelic<br />
daTvlili, ga-<br />
Tvlili da absoluturad<br />
realisturia.<br />
6 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
kadrebis beladi soso<br />
qveynis uSiSroeba saxelmwifos<br />
maka mosiaSvili<br />
xerxemalia, qveynis sakanonmdeblo<br />
599 97 25 55<br />
organo ki _ saxelmwifos tvini.<br />
martivi SedarebisTvis: adamians<br />
ori ram sWirdeba _ Tavisa da zurgis tvini, aqedan erTi mainc<br />
Tu dazianda, cocxali organizmi funqcionirebas wyvets.<br />
asevea saxelmwifoc. Sesabamisad,<br />
qveynis sakanonmdeblo<br />
organo Cveni qveynis Tavis tvinia,<br />
saxelmwifo usafrTxoeba<br />
ki _ zurgis (xerxemali) tvini<br />
gaxlavT.<br />
bolo wlebSi xSirad dasmula<br />
kiTxvebi: ratom gaxda saxelmwifoSi<br />
mSvidoba safrTxis<br />
Semcveli? qveynisTvis saSiSi<br />
adamianebi ratom dasaqmdnen<br />
saxelmwifo samsaxurSi? saidan<br />
amdeni sxva qveynis agenti?<br />
am kiTxvebze pasuxebi jer ar<br />
arsebobs. ZiriTadi brZolis<br />
areali, ratomRac, mxolod<br />
„rusTavi 2" da „qronika+”-ia.<br />
yvelafris miuxedavad, mTavar<br />
metoqed mxolod or mediaorganizacias<br />
miiCneven. gasuli<br />
wlis „qronika+”-is mimarT<br />
brZola warumateblad dasrulda,<br />
„rusTavi 2"-Tan _ isev<br />
grZeldeba.<br />
mTavari kiTxva, romelic Su-<br />
Sis sasaxlidan modis, erTaderTia:<br />
_ ratom ver daxureT, ra<br />
xdeba?<br />
pasuxi ki gomelauris uwyebidan,<br />
erTi:<br />
_ ver vmuSaobT, kadrebi<br />
nuls qvemoT gvyavs.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ profesionalizmisa da kompetenturi<br />
kadris problemaa.<br />
veravin gadavibireT, ver gavtexeT.<br />
_ mizezi? ver iyideT?<br />
_ ver SevZeliT.<br />
_ da mainc, ratom?!<br />
_ damkvidrebuli wesebis sawinaaRmdegod<br />
gogaSvilma uwyebaSi<br />
xelmokle, uqoneli adamianebi<br />
miiRo da daasaqma. maT<br />
ki, xelmokleobasTan erTad,<br />
arc Wkua moekiTxebaT da arc<br />
_ goneba.<br />
daaxloebiT am Sinaarsis saubari<br />
gaimarTa ianvris Sua ricxvebisTvis<br />
gomelaursa da vi-<br />
Racas Soris. is „viRac” SuSis<br />
sasaxlis mstovaria. omi gr-<br />
Zeldeba. mSvidoba ar Cans.<br />
gomelauri met Tavisuflebas<br />
iTxovs, gogaSvili ki Segrovebuli<br />
kompromatebiT vaWrobs.<br />
ratom? Tavis gadarCena<br />
unda. suraTi ki ufro mZimea.<br />
_ Tavi davaneboT „qronika+”-sac<br />
da „rusTavi 2"-sac,<br />
sxva saxelmwifoebriv interesebze<br />
visaubroT: ra ujdeba saxelmwifos<br />
sus-is Senaxva? gasul<br />
welTan SedarebiT, zustad,<br />
orjer meti. ratom? gatenili<br />
usaqmuri kadrebis gamo, ararsebuli<br />
mivlinebebis gamo, damatebuli<br />
e. w. samuSao jgufebis<br />
gamo.<br />
_ ra aris es samuSao jgufe-<br />
bi?<br />
_ magaliTad aviRoT, pirobiTad,<br />
gazeTi „#”, am gazeTis<br />
muSaoba kiTxvebs aCens: vin arian?!<br />
ras akeTeben? ra Semosavali<br />
aqvT? vin afinansebs? ramdenad<br />
ideuri jgufi muSaobs?<br />
es xom viRacam unda Seiswavlos<br />
Tavisi susti da rTuli<br />
mxareebiT? amisTvis iqmneba e.<br />
w. samuSao jgufebi. am samuSao<br />
jgufebs eZlevaT gasammagebuli<br />
jamagiri. da ra xdeba? daskvna<br />
ra aris? arc araferi, gazeTi<br />
agrZelebs Cveul reJimSi<br />
muSaobas, samuSao jgufi ki _<br />
hamburgerebis Wamas. Sedegi ar<br />
gvaqvs da arc gveqneba. ar SeiZleba,<br />
yanidan gamoiyvano glexi,<br />
romelmac ar icis arc rusuli,<br />
arc inglisuri, romelsac<br />
patakis wardgenac ki uWirs<br />
qarTulad da amferi imferiT<br />
laparakobs da mas ando nebismieri<br />
mniSvnelovani sakiTxi.<br />
gazeTi „#” ubralo magaliTis-<br />
Tvis moviyvane, Torem mxolod<br />
media xom ar aris am qveyanaSi?!<br />
_ realuri mizezi?!<br />
_ gogaSvilis kadrebi, sxva<br />
araferi. sus-i gatenilia misi<br />
uniWo biWebiT. SeiZleba, Sedegi<br />
sadme naxo? arc arsad...<br />
_ ra problema SeiZleba<br />
Seiqmnas, reorganizacia, an<br />
uwyebis optimizacia rom Ca-<br />
tardes? Sesaferisi kadrebi<br />
rom moiyvanon?<br />
_ ver moiyvanen, maka. pirveli:<br />
amisTvis saWiroa gogaSvilis<br />
moxsna; meore: gogaSvilis<br />
moxsnas mohyveba mis mier proletariatis<br />
warmomadgenlebis<br />
e. w. buntebi. am kadrebis beladi<br />
sosoa. am adamianebma uceb<br />
gaiRviZes da uTxres, _ dReidan<br />
Sen xar „agneti 007", an<br />
raRac zRapruli arseba, filmebis<br />
gmirebi hgoniaT Tavi, warmosaxviT<br />
samsaxurSi arian da<br />
ver xvdebian, ra trialebs maT<br />
Tavs, qveyanaSi, yoveli mesame,<br />
TiTqmis, sxva qveynis desantia<br />
da amaT hgoniaT, rom nika gvaramiasa<br />
da eliso kilaZis damarcxebiT<br />
Tbiliss Saravandedi<br />
daadgeba. soso gasaSvebia, ma-<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
`kadrebis beladi sosoa. am adamianebma<br />
uceb gaiRviZes da uTxres, - dReidan Sen<br />
xar `agneti 007", an raRac zRapruli<br />
arseba, filmebis gmirebi hgoniaT Tavi,<br />
warmosaxviT samsaxurSi arian da ver<br />
xvdebian, ra trialebs maT Tavs,<br />
qveyanaSi, yoveli mesame, TiTqmis, sxva<br />
qveynis desantia da amaT hgoniaT, rom<br />
nika gvaramiasa da eliso kilaZis<br />
damarcxebiT Tbiliss Saravandedi<br />
daadgeba. soso gasaSvebia, magram sosos<br />
gaSvebamde im kadris Secvlaa saWiro,<br />
romliTac gogaSvilma sus-i ase<br />
gaamdidra. samagierod, am yvelafris<br />
fonze ucxo qveynis specsamsaxurebs<br />
SeeqmnaT sasaTbure pirobebi. sus-Si,<br />
TanamSromlebs mxolod<br />
rekomendaciebiT iReben, romelTa<br />
umravlesoba, ra Tqma unda, gasul<br />
wlebSi gogaSvils ekuTvnoda, amis<br />
eqskluziuri ufleba hqonda. realurad,<br />
aravin amowmebs, vin modis uwyebaSi,<br />
romelic qveynis marTvis<br />
umniSvnelovanesi wertilia. aq momuSave<br />
adamianebi vertmfrenSic ar msxdaran.<br />
eseni romelime reiss rom gaayolo<br />
raimes dasazverad an gasagebad, ra unda<br />
Camogitanon? TviTmfrinavSi gadaRebuli<br />
selfebi? meti xom araferi?! es aq,<br />
centralur nawilSi rac xdeba. aba,<br />
axla, periferiebSi gadavinacvloT, ra<br />
mdgomareobaSia regionuli samsaxurebi?<br />
vin arian is adamianebi, romlebic<br />
yvelaze mowyvlad jgufebze unda<br />
muSaobdnen, magaliTad, eTnikurad<br />
araqarTvel mosaxleobaze?!~<br />
gram sosos gaSvebamde im<br />
kadris Secvlaa saWiro, romliTac<br />
gogaSvilma sus-i ase<br />
gaamdidra. samagierod, am yvelafris<br />
fonze ucxo qveynis<br />
specsamsaxurebs SeeqmnaT sasaTbure<br />
pirobebi.<br />
sus-Si, TanamSromlebs mxolod<br />
rekomendaciebiT iReben,<br />
romelTa umravlesoba, ra Tqma<br />
unda, gasul wlebSi gogaSvils<br />
ekuTvnoda, amis eqskluziuri<br />
ufleba hqonda. realurad,<br />
aravin amowmebs, vin modis uwyebaSi,<br />
romelic qveynis mar-<br />
Tvis umniSvnelovanesi wertilia.<br />
aq momuSave adamianebi<br />
vertmfrenSic ar msxdaran. eseni<br />
romelime reiss rom gaayolo<br />
raimes dasazverad an gasagebad,<br />
ra unda Camogitanon?<br />
TviTmfrinavSi gadaRebuli selfebi?<br />
meti xom araferi?! es<br />
aq, centralur nawilSi rac<br />
xdeba. aba, axla, periferiebSi<br />
gadavinacvloT, ra mdgomareobaSia<br />
regionuli samsaxurebi?<br />
vin arian is adamianebi, romlebic<br />
yvelaze mowyvlad jgufebze<br />
unda muSaobdnen, magali-<br />
Tad, eTnikurad araqarTvel<br />
mosaxleobaze?! sagarejos iormuRanlo<br />
aiRe da lagodexis<br />
kabali... ra informacia gvaqvs<br />
iq arsebul situaciaze? araferi,<br />
saerTod araferi, sufTa<br />
furclebi. igivea pankissa da<br />
yarajalaze. viciT, ra islamuri<br />
dajgufebebi cxovroben iq?<br />
yarajalaSi ici, ramdeni vahabistia?<br />
ici, ramdeni adamiania<br />
wasuli siriaSi? _ ar ici. aseve<br />
ar viciT Cvenc. ratom? mizezi<br />
martivia _ gogaSvilma xelmokle,<br />
Wkuamokle da uqoneli adamianebiT<br />
aavso uwyeba. ra idea,<br />
ris idea?! saerTod, adamianebi<br />
aq rom muSaoben, aqvT ki mizani,<br />
rac aerTianebT? aer-<br />
TianebT soso gogaSvili da<br />
gasammagebuli jamagiri.<br />
_ gamosavali?<br />
_ gamosavali aris erTader-<br />
Ti, _ sruli, Zireuli cvlileba!<br />
ar Seicvleba gogaSvili da<br />
misi „proletariati” sus-Si?! _<br />
qveyana dazaraldeba da ase agur-agur<br />
CamogveSleba yvelaferi.<br />
P. S. karl iungeni: „Tuki<br />
adamiani ver igebs, ras eubne-<br />
biT, is sakuTar Tavs ki ara,<br />
Tqven migiCnevT sulelad”.<br />
karl iungenis mixedviT Cven,<br />
sosos azriT, yvelani sulelebi<br />
varT. eubnebode da ar es-<br />
modes, iSviaTia. da es iSviaTi<br />
ki Cveni saxelmwifo usafrTx-<br />
oebis erT-erTi garantia...<br />
7
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
mowmeTa trening-centri<br />
sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis 205-4 muxlSi da patimrobis<br />
Sesaxeb kanonSi garkveviT weria, rom erTsa da imave saqmeze<br />
braldebulebs cal-calke saknebSi aTavseben da izolatoris<br />
administracia valdebulia, Sesabamisi zomebi miiRos, raTa<br />
maT erTmaneTTan komunikaciis saSualeba ar hqondeT.<br />
sandro girgvlianis saqmeze<br />
adamianis uflebaTa dacvis<br />
evropuli sasamarTlo yvelaze<br />
mniSvnelovan darRvevad swored<br />
imas miiCnevda, rom girgvlianis<br />
saqmeze braldebuli pirebi<br />
2006 wels erT sakanSi isxdnen<br />
15 dRiT da swored es faqti<br />
gaxda strasburgis sasamar-<br />
Tlos SeSfoTebis sagani. sainteresoa,<br />
girgvlianis saqmeze<br />
strasburgis gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sesabamisi muxlebi:<br />
126-e: 2006 wlis 23 marts pirvelma<br />
ganmcxadebelma saCivari<br />
Seitana saqmis mwarmoebel<br />
gamomZiebelTan, romelmac<br />
aRniSna, rom „patimrobis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonis 86/2 muxlis darRveviT,<br />
oTxive braldebuli Tbilisis<br />
me-7 sapyrobileSi erTsa<br />
da imave sakanSi hyavdaT moTavsebuli.<br />
igi acxadebda, rom es<br />
saSualebas aZlevda braldebulebs,<br />
SeeTanxmebinaT Tavian-<br />
Ti Cvenebebi da amiT xeli See-<br />
SalaT saqmeze WeSmaritebis dadgenisTvis.<br />
sssk-is 161/1 muxlis<br />
Tanaxmad, man moiTxova patimrebis<br />
dauyovnebliv erTmaneTisgan<br />
gancalkeveba.<br />
127-e: imave dRes pirvelma<br />
ganmcxadebelma igive SuamdgomlobiT<br />
mimarTa iusticiis saministros<br />
sasjelaRsrulebis<br />
departamentis ufrossa da generalur<br />
prokurors.<br />
130-e: am saCivrebs araviTari<br />
moqmedeba ar mohyolia;<br />
131-e: 2006 wlis 27 aprils<br />
sasjelaRsrulebis departamentis<br />
socialuri samsaxuris ufrosma<br />
ganacxada, rom oTxi braldebuli<br />
2006 wlis 8-23 marts<br />
marTlac erT sakanSi iyo moTavsebuli,<br />
radgan Tbilisis me-<br />
7 sapyrobileSi saremonto samuSaoebi<br />
mimdinareobda. mas Semdeg,<br />
rac remonti dasrulda,<br />
isini erTmaneTisgan ganacalkaves.<br />
saxelmwifos mier zepiri<br />
mosmenisTvis sasamarTlosTvis<br />
wardgenili dokumentebi im<br />
faqts adasturebs, rom braldebulebi<br />
erTsa da imave sakanSi<br />
hyavdaT moTavsebuli. arsebobs,<br />
aseve, dokumenturi mtkicebulebebi,<br />
rom 2006 wlis 21<br />
Tebervalsa da 25 marts erTerTma<br />
kompaniam me-7 sapyrobileSi<br />
saremonto samuSaoebi<br />
Caatara.<br />
133-e: pirveli ganmcxadebeli<br />
miiCnevda, rom is komforti da<br />
lmobiereba, romelsac saxelmwifo<br />
organoebi aSkarad iCendnen<br />
oTxi braldebulis mimarT,<br />
im mizans emsaxureboda, rom<br />
braldebulebs ar miecaT kafe<br />
„SardenSi” myofi Ss maRali Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebisa da Ss ministris<br />
meuRlis sawinaaRmdego<br />
Cvenebebi.<br />
es aris fragmentebi sandro<br />
girgvlianis saqmeze strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebidan<br />
xelisuflebaSi „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” mosvlis Semdeg. baCo<br />
axalaia saqarTveloSi dabrunda<br />
da cixe Cajda. mas 13 gamamarTlebeli<br />
ganaCeni aqvs da er-<br />
TaderTi epizodi, romelzec<br />
sasjels ixdis, swored sandro<br />
girgvlianis saqmis epizodia.<br />
baCana axalaias ganaCenSi weria:<br />
moqmedebda kanoniT dakisrebul<br />
movaleobaTa sawinaaRmdegod.<br />
baCana axalaias mier samsaxurebrivi<br />
uflebamosilebis<br />
borotad gamoyeneba gamoixata<br />
SemdegSi:<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />
sisxlis samarTlis saqmeTa<br />
kolegiis 2006 wlis 3 martis<br />
brZanebiT braldebulebs saqarTvelos<br />
Ss saministros imJamindeli<br />
konstituciuri usafrTxoebis<br />
departamentis yofil<br />
TanamSromlebs: geronti<br />
alanias, aleqsandre RaWavas, mixeil<br />
bibiluriZesa da avTandil<br />
afciaurs, aRkveTis RonisZiebis<br />
saxiT, SeefardaT winaswari patimroba<br />
da imave dRes Seasaxles<br />
sasjelaRsrulebis departamentis<br />
#7 dawesebulebaSi.<br />
irakli fircxalava<br />
baCana axalaiam Tavisi Zmis,<br />
daviT axalaiasTvis qmediTi mxardaWeris<br />
gziT da ukanono upiratesobis<br />
miniWebis mizniT, patimrebis:<br />
geronti alanias, aleqsandre<br />
RaWavas, mixeil bibiluriZisa<br />
da avTandil afciauris<br />
me-7 dawesebulebaSi miyvanidan<br />
ramdenime xanSi dawesebulebis<br />
imJamindelma direqtorma megis<br />
qardavam, romelic, Tavis mxriv,<br />
axali daniSnuli iyo, aseve Tavad<br />
bCana axalaias mier, imave<br />
dawesebulebis TanamSromlebs<br />
misca miTiTeba, rom aRniSnul<br />
braldebulebs ar unda SeqmnodaT<br />
aranairi problema dawesebulebis<br />
TanamSromlebis mxridan<br />
im TvalsazrisiT, rom gansxvavebiT<br />
sxva braldebulebisgan,<br />
maTze ar unda gavrcelebuliyo<br />
saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT<br />
da dawesebulebis SinaganawesiT<br />
dadgenili moTxovnebi,<br />
xolo Tavad am pirebTan damokidebuleba<br />
TanamSromlebis mxridan<br />
unda yofiliyo sruliad<br />
gansxvavebuli”.<br />
es konkretuli magaliTebi<br />
mxolod imitom movitaneT, rom<br />
paralelebi gavavloT Cvens<br />
saqmesTan. 31 marts Cveni saqmis<br />
saapelacio sasamarTloSi ganxilva<br />
daiwyo. saxalxo damcvelma<br />
imis mtkicebulebebi warmoadgina,<br />
rom braldebuli specrazmelebi<br />
Tveebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
CvenTan erTad isxdnen „matrosovze”<br />
#19 sakanSi. Cven 2 Tebervals<br />
dagvakaves, „matrosovze”4<br />
Tebervals Semogviyvanes, ramdenime<br />
specrazmeli gldanis<br />
me-8 dawesebulebaSi datoves,<br />
xolo 19 Tebervals isinic „matrosovze”<br />
gadmoiyvanes da TavianT<br />
megobrebTan Casves. 19<br />
Tebervlidan 7 agvistomde (am<br />
dRes gauSves isini) erTad, erT<br />
sakanSi isxdnen, daaxloebiT,<br />
xuT Tveze meti xnis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
es gancxadeba Cven Tbilisis<br />
saqalaqo sasamarTloSic<br />
araerTgzis gavakeTeT, magram<br />
mosamarTle badri koWlamazaSvilma<br />
am faqtze aranairi reagireba<br />
ar moaxdina. miT ufro,<br />
reaqcia ar hqonda arc prokuror<br />
amiran guluaSvils, romelic,<br />
sxvaTa Soris, baCo axalaias<br />
im saqmis prokurori gaxldaT,<br />
romelzec zemoT mogaxseneT.<br />
grigol caaZe mezobel, #17<br />
sakanSi ijda da smoda, rogor<br />
mecadineobdnen prokuraturis<br />
mier dawerili Cvenebebis dazepirebaSi<br />
specrazmelebi. grigol<br />
caaZem es yvelaferi mosamarTle<br />
badri koWlamazaSvils<br />
mouyva da aseve winaswar uTxra,<br />
ra Cvenebebs miscemdnen specrazmelebi<br />
sasamarTloze. es<br />
xdeboda maSin, roca Cven cxra<br />
Tvis ganmavlobaSi samartoo sakanSi<br />
mogvaTavses, ar gvqonda<br />
televizori, radio, kaxa nakani<br />
im zomamdec mivida, rom venebi<br />
gadaiWra.<br />
8 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`matrosovze~<br />
amiran guluaSvili<br />
badri koWlamazaSvili<br />
saxalxo damcvelis aparatis<br />
TanamSromlebma daadastures:<br />
roca 2015 wlis 22 aprils, monitoringis<br />
mizniT, „matrosovze”<br />
imyofebodnen, aRmoaCines<br />
rom #19 sakanSi erT saqmeze<br />
braldebuli Svidive specrazmeli<br />
erTad ijda.<br />
maT oqmi Seadgines da cnoba<br />
moiTxoves, rodis Casves isini<br />
erTad. specnawilis ufrosma<br />
saxalxo damcvelis aparatis<br />
TanamSromlebs es cnoba misca<br />
kidec.<br />
sandro girgvlianis saqmeze<br />
evropis sasamarTlos aRSfoTebis<br />
sagani, rogorc zemoT mogaxseneT,<br />
oTxi braldebulis<br />
erT sakanSi 15 dRiT moTavsebis<br />
sakiTxi gaxda. Cvens saqmeze<br />
Svidi specrazmeli erT sakanSi<br />
imyofeboda xuTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
prokurori amiran guluaSvili,<br />
or sxvadasxva darbazSi,<br />
erTnairi precedentis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, sxvadasxva rames<br />
akeTebs. is, rac baCana axalaiasTvis<br />
danaSauli da kanonis<br />
darRvevaa, Cveni saqmis mowmeebze<br />
ar vrceldeba, arc dawesebulebis<br />
direqtoris mxridan<br />
kanonis darRvevas imCnevs vinme.<br />
martivi warmosadgenia, ra<br />
marazmTan da SerCeviT samar-<br />
TalTan gvaqvs saqme.<br />
analogiuri saqmea „kasrebis<br />
saqme”.<br />
Tavidan, 2013 wels, 11 kaci<br />
iyo dakavebuli. am saqmezec<br />
analogiurad moiqcnen. 11-dan<br />
ori braldebuli erTad Casves<br />
„matrosovze”, 4 #1 sakanSi, da<br />
oTxic _ #9 sakanSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
rva Tvis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
warmoidgineT, rva braldebuli<br />
erTad ijda. ratom moxda ase?<br />
koba Toduaze, romelic dRemde<br />
iZebneba afxazur-rusuli<br />
specsamsaxurebis mier, arc ma-<br />
Sin hqondaT rame mtkicebuleba<br />
misi am saqmeSi monawileobis<br />
Taobaze da, miT umetes, arc<br />
axla aqvT. igi ar aris arc erT<br />
videoSi, arc misi xmaa, danaSaulis<br />
Cadenis dros, mobiluri<br />
telefonis amonaweris mixedviT,<br />
TbilisSi imyofeboda, aseve<br />
TiTis anabeWdebis mixedviTac,<br />
rva braldebulidan mxolod<br />
ori daiTanxmes Cvenebis<br />
micemaze, isic prokuraturis<br />
dawerili Cvenebebis bejiTad<br />
mecadineobis Semdeg. am faqtis<br />
Taobaze orma mowmem _ WiTanavam<br />
da buliam _ sasamarTlozec<br />
ganacxades. metic: WiTanavam<br />
sasamarTloze prokuror kavsaZes<br />
daado xeli, _ aman Cagvsva<br />
erTad, periodulad Semodioda<br />
da Cvenzezewolas axorcielebdao.<br />
mokled, am ambebis Semdeg<br />
Cven „matrosovis” cixes „mowme-<br />
Ta momzadebis centri” davarqviT.<br />
gagecinebaT, magram es asea.<br />
xelisuflebam baCo axalaia<br />
cixeSi analogiuri braldebiT<br />
gamoketa, rasac, faqtobrivad,<br />
yoveldRe sCadis Cveni dawesebulebis<br />
direqtori da sasjelaRsrulebis<br />
saministros xelmZRvaneloba.<br />
vinmes warmoudgenia,<br />
rom imdroindelma departamentis<br />
ufrosma gaxariam, an<br />
imdroindelma ministrma mRebriSvilma<br />
diliT gaiRviZes da<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRes, „matrosovze”<br />
treningcentri gaexsnaT?<br />
kiTxvaze, _ ratom Casves er-<br />
Tad erT saqmeze braldebuli<br />
pirebi? _ pasuxi am dromde ar<br />
arsebobs. roca Cveni aRmkveTi<br />
RonisZieba ganixileboda, prokurorma<br />
mTavar argumentad moiyvana:<br />
amaTi gareT datoveba rogor<br />
SeiZleba, mowmeebze seriozul<br />
zewolas moaxdeneno, rasac<br />
mosamarTle daeTanxma. samagierod,<br />
aiRes da Cveni saqmis mowmeebi<br />
15 kv.m. sakanSi erTad Casves.<br />
bolos, minda giTxraT, rom<br />
eseni arian organizebuli danaSaulebrivi<br />
jgufis wevrebi,<br />
sadac Sedian prokuraturis,<br />
sus-is, Sss-s, sasjelaRsrulebis<br />
sistemisa da sasamarTlos<br />
warmomadgenlebi, am procesSi<br />
bevri advokatic monawileobs.<br />
gamosavali erTia: an Tavian-<br />
Ti jgufis wevrebi unda daakavon<br />
da axalaias miusvan gverdiT,<br />
an baCo axalaia gauSvan.<br />
pativiscemiT: irakli<br />
fircxalava<br />
„matrosovi”, 12 Tebervali,<br />
2017 weli<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
9
megavatis hidroeleqtrosadgurs,<br />
an Tboeleqtrosadgurs gaakeTebda,<br />
magram ar Seusrulebia.<br />
Tumca am xalxma, „energo-pro<br />
jorjias” abonentebma es fuli<br />
gadaixada. faqtobrivad, am memorandumebiT<br />
mosaxleobas winaswar<br />
afinansebinebdnen aRniSnul hidro<br />
an Tboeleqtrosadgurs.<br />
maT es valdebuleba<br />
ar Seasrules<br />
da aRniSnuli Tanxebi<br />
ki gadaxdili darCa:<br />
„Telasze” 380<br />
milionze meti, xolo<br />
„energo-proze”<br />
_ 350 milion<br />
larze meti. ai,<br />
es aris faratina<br />
furclebi, am<br />
memorandumebs<br />
sxva araferi<br />
hqvia.<br />
dRevandeli<br />
energetikis saministro,<br />
imis<br />
nacvlad, rom es<br />
gaesajaroebina, gamoevlina,<br />
am Tanxebis dabrunebis<br />
meqanizmi gamoeZebna<br />
(xelT maqvs aRniSnuli<br />
xelSekrulebebi), ra-<br />
Rac daxuruli tipis samxedro<br />
organizaciad iqca,<br />
sadac yvelaferze grifi<br />
„komerciuli saidumloa”<br />
dadebuli. es aris Cveni<br />
mosaxleobis mier gadaxdili<br />
fuli, ratom unda<br />
iyos grifiT „saidumlo”,<br />
iqneb, vinmem agvixsnas?<br />
roca am fuls maxdevinebda<br />
da meubneboda, rom 3,7<br />
TeTri sainvesticio komponentis<br />
fulia, maSin es Tema ratom gaasajaroa?<br />
Cvenma mosaxleobam unda icodes,<br />
es aris zustad erTi jaWvi,<br />
vinc es memorandumebi moamzada<br />
(maT Soris, enguris cnobili memorandumi),<br />
rogorc zemoT avRni-<br />
Sne, isev isini muSaoben energetikis<br />
saministroSi, gana, sadme wasulan?<br />
maT mier momzdebulia es<br />
memorandumebi, „engurhesis” gadacemis<br />
memorandumic da es bolo<br />
gazis xelSekrulebebic. isev is<br />
xalxia da viTom aseTi „eSmakuri”<br />
gamosavali ipoves.<br />
es aris namdvili korufcia da<br />
prokuraturam saswrafod gamoZieba<br />
unda daiwyos. aq danaSaulis<br />
aSkara niSnebia. adamianebs wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi araferSi gadaaxdevines<br />
amxela Tanxebi, „energo-prom”<br />
350 milioni waiRo, „Telasma” _ 380<br />
milioni. dRemde es e. w. komerciuli<br />
saidumloebis safarqveSaa.<br />
es kidev nawilia im ciklis, rasac<br />
dRevandeli energetikis saministro<br />
akeTebs. zarzeimiT gaxsnes<br />
qaris sadguri gorTan. albaT,<br />
gagivliaT. es yvelaferi saxelmwifo<br />
fuliT Seisyides, 34 milioni<br />
gadaixades. da ra gaakeTes?<br />
saxelmwifo fuliT germaniaSi<br />
daasaqmes muSaxeli... qveyanam amiT<br />
ra miiRo, 6,9 aSS centiani, Zviriani<br />
sadguri? romelic wliurad,<br />
saukeTeso SemTxvevaSi, 88 milion<br />
kilovatsaaTs gamoimuSavebs?!!<br />
kiTxvas vsvam: ramdeni mcire<br />
hidrosadguri aSendeboda 34 milioni<br />
aSS dolariT? albaT, 2-3-megavtiani<br />
7-8 obieqtis, jamuri<br />
gamomuSavebac 88 milonzec gacilebiT<br />
meti eqnebodaT da gaxarjuli<br />
34 milionis mxolod 20-25%<br />
wavidoda germaniaSi, an avstriaSi<br />
(hidroagregatebis yvelaze ma-<br />
Ralxarisxiani mwarmoeblebi), xolo<br />
danarCeni Tanxa, _ 25,5 milion<br />
dolarze meti _ saqarTveloSi<br />
darCeboda.<br />
rodesac qveyanaSi hidroeleqtrosadguri<br />
Sendeba, jer erTi, iq<br />
muSaxeli saqmdeba da 80% am ful-<br />
gela mamulaSvili<br />
599 45 50 26<br />
ratom Camoyalibda saqarTvelos<br />
energetikis saministro erT-erTi daxuruli tipis organizaciad?<br />
kategoriuli moTxovnis miuxedavad, ratom ar sajarovdeba<br />
gazis transportirebis kompaniasa da rusul „gazeqsports”<br />
Soris dadebuli bolo xelSekruleba? rogor Seaf-<br />
ases aRniSnuli xelSekruleba rusul mediaSi? ukavSirdeba Tu<br />
ara es yvelaferi energetikis sferos mmarTvelTa profesiul<br />
kvalifikacias? ratom ar gadaixedeba wina xelisuflebisas<br />
gaformebuli sadavo energetikuli xelSekrulebebi? ra-<br />
tom amjobina xelisuflebam mcire hidrosadgurebs goris<br />
qaris eleqtrosadguris mSenebloba? ras warmoadgenen „sokar-<br />
sa” da gazis korporacias Soris moqmedi firmebi?..<br />
am da sxva kiTxvebze „qronika+”-s<br />
pasuxobs saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />
eleqtrosistemis yofili<br />
generaluri direqtori, me-<br />
diakavSir „obieqtivis” wamyvani _<br />
vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />
_ saqarTvelos energetikis<br />
saministro erT-erT daxuruli<br />
tipis organizaciad Camoyalibda.<br />
lamis, Tavdacvis saministroze<br />
ufro daxSuli sistemaa. ase ratom<br />
moxda da ratom arafers asa-<br />
jaroeben?<br />
_ sul bolodan daviwyoT: saqarTvelos<br />
gazis transportirebis<br />
kompaniasa da rusul „gazeqsports”<br />
Soris dadebuli xelSekruleba<br />
aviRoT. parlamentis wevrebi,<br />
arasamTavrobo seqtori iTxovs<br />
pasuxs, Tu ra pirobebiT daido<br />
qalaq minskSi es xelSekruleba?<br />
energetikis saministro acxadebs,<br />
rom es komerciuli saidumloebaa<br />
da Cven mis pirobebs ver<br />
gavTqvamTo. ras niSnavs, komerciuli<br />
saidumloeba? Cvenma mosaxleobam<br />
unda icodes, saqarTvelo ra<br />
Tanxebs ixdis, tranzitulad ra<br />
rCeba, gadasaxadi ramdenia...<br />
aseve energetikis saministro<br />
acxadebs, rom Cven evropul qveynebTan<br />
SedarebiT yvelaze optimaluri<br />
pirobebi miviReT. ministris<br />
moadgile m. valiSvili amtkicebs,<br />
rom saukeTeso transportirebis<br />
tarifi gvaqvs(?!). ras<br />
niSnavs optimaluri pirobebi? an<br />
saukeTeso tranzitis tarifi?<br />
daniaSi gazis transportireba<br />
14 evro Rirs, ungreTSi 7 evroa,<br />
aviRoT belarusi, sadac tranziti<br />
4,5 dolaria. gazis transportirebis<br />
kompanias amaze kargi fasi<br />
aqvs dadebuli? eWvi mepareba (gadaxedeT<br />
im periodis rusul presas<br />
da yvelafers mixvdebiT...). vin<br />
moigo, es yvelas ainteresebs da saministro<br />
aRniSnul monacemebs ar<br />
gascems; acxadebs, rom es raRac gasaidumloebuli<br />
xelSekrulebaa<br />
da a.S.<br />
_ realur mizezs sad xedavT?<br />
_ adre ra pirobebiTac gvqonda<br />
dadebuli xelSekruleba, 2 miliard<br />
400 milioni kubmetri gazi<br />
10<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
gaedineboda satranzitod somxeT-<br />
Si, iqidan naturaluri saxiT aT<br />
procents viRebdiT. es naturad<br />
miRebuli gazi Cveni mosaxleobisTvis<br />
bevrad sasargebloa, vidre<br />
monetarizaciaze gadasvla. axla<br />
Cven ruseTma fuli unda gadagvixados,<br />
magram am fuliT mere ra gazi<br />
mogviva? imis mesamedi, an naxevari,<br />
rasac aqamde naturiT viRebdiT.<br />
amitom es aris wamgebiani<br />
xelSekruleba. Cemi gaTvlebiT,<br />
wagebam, daaxloebiT, 25 milion aSS<br />
dolarze meti Seadgina!<br />
_ amaze ratom wavidnen?<br />
_ imitom, rom namdvilad arakvalificiuri<br />
xalxia. pirdapir vambob,<br />
rom energetikis saministro-<br />
Si 90%-ze meti arakvalificiuri<br />
xalxi muSaobs. an saidan unda icodnen,<br />
roca ministri istorikosia,<br />
moadgile _ Tarjimani, sxvebi gaurkveveli<br />
profesiis xalxia, yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, energetikosebi namdvilad<br />
ar arian.<br />
hkiTxeT nebismier am sferos<br />
specialists (albaT, ufro mikrofonisa<br />
da kameris gareSe) da Tu<br />
sindisTan problemebi ara aqvs (axla<br />
aseTebis povnac gaWirda), getyvis,<br />
rom saministroSi ganaTlebuli,<br />
profesionalebis ricxvi nulis<br />
tolia, rom dargSi menejerebi,<br />
ZiriTadad, yofili „odeerebi”,<br />
piradi dacvisa da dacvis policiis<br />
yofili TanamSromlebi arian,<br />
saerTod, amaT energetikis ra gaegebaT?<br />
rogor SeiZleba, energetikaSi<br />
rame icodnen?<br />
„gazeqsportTan” gaformebuli<br />
xelSekrulebiTac Cans, roca aSkarad<br />
wamgebian pirobebze mouweres<br />
xeli rusebs.<br />
ukve anekdotadac dadis qalaq-<br />
Si: kalaZisTvis olimpiuri Cempionis,<br />
zviadauris dasaqmeba samtrediis<br />
safexburTo klub „lokomotivis”<br />
direqtoratSi SeuTavazebiaT,<br />
mas ki Tavi gaugiJebia, _ sad<br />
zviadauri da sad fexburTi, fexburTis<br />
ra gaegeba, araprofesionaliao.<br />
amitom swrafad mouZebna<br />
„profesiulad” Sesaferisi adgili,<br />
ufrosi mrCevel-konsultantis<br />
Tanamdeboba gazis transportirebis<br />
kompaniaSi. xumroba iqiT<br />
iyos, yvelam icis, gazis transportirebis<br />
kompaniis menejmenti,<br />
ZiriTadad, kalaZis „profesionalebiTaa”<br />
dakompleqtebuli.<br />
saakaSvili rom acxadebda, omi<br />
movigeTo, esenic zustad ase iqcevian,<br />
- Camovidnen da acxadeben,<br />
rom xelSekruleba xelsayreli<br />
pirobebiT davdeTo. vekiTxebi,<br />
gvaCveneT, ras warmoadgens es xelsayreli<br />
pirobebi-meTqi?<br />
vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />
`energetikis<br />
saministro, lamis,<br />
Tavdacvaze ufro<br />
daxSul sistemad<br />
Camoyalibda~<br />
_ pasuxismgebloba vis mx-<br />
arezea?<br />
_ rasakvirvelia, energetikis<br />
saministroze. magram aq erT xelSekrulebaze<br />
rodia saubari, aq<br />
xelSekrulebebis mTeli rigia,<br />
romelsac dRemde energetikis<br />
saministro ar asajaroebs.<br />
kerZod, 2008 wlis agvistos<br />
omis Semdeg saqarTvelos energetikis<br />
saministrom (ministri a. xe-<br />
Taguri, misi kuratorebi: v. merabiSvili,<br />
z. adeiSvili) ruseTis „inter-raos”<br />
SesTavaza „engurhesis”<br />
marTvaSi gadacema, romelic Cveni<br />
yvelaze mZlavri hidrosadguria.<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT memorandumi<br />
momzadda da am moRalateobriv<br />
memorandumze kalaZis dRevandeli<br />
moadgile i. xmalaZe muSaobda, romelic<br />
„nacionaluri” reJimis<br />
dros iuridiul departaments xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
Tavis droze, roca<br />
Cven, „qarTuli ocnebac” opoziciaSi<br />
viyaviT, gasajaroebas viTxovdiT,<br />
Tu ratom vaZlevdiT engurs<br />
ruseTs.<br />
ise, enguri rom ar gvqondes,<br />
saerTod, Cveni ekonomika nulTan<br />
gaswordeboda. ratom misces rusul<br />
„inter-raos”, ra pirobebiT<br />
aZleven amxela hess? maSinac ase<br />
acxadebdnen (igive valiSvili), rom<br />
es yvelaferi komerciuli saidumloeba<br />
iyo.<br />
kidev ukan wavideT: 2007 wels<br />
„inter-raosa” da saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobas Soris xelSekruleba<br />
daido, romlis mixedviT, 2015<br />
wlis pirvel seqtembramde unda<br />
daefinansebina, aeSenebina da eqspluataciaSi<br />
gaeSva 100 megavatis<br />
hidroeleqtrosadguri, an Tboeleqtrosadguri.<br />
dRes energetikis<br />
saministros vekiTxebi: sad aris es<br />
sadguri? ratom ar Sesrulda<br />
piroba?<br />
axla dawvrilebiT vTqvaT, ratom<br />
gakeTda es memorandumi, Cvenma<br />
moqalaqeebma rom icodnen:<br />
rodesac gamanawilebeli kompania<br />
investicias Tavissave kompaniaSi<br />
debs, es, ra Tqma unda, maregulirebel<br />
komisias tarifSi Sehyavs<br />
da tarifi izrdeba. magram rode-<br />
sac am sainvesticio komponentis<br />
ukan amoRebas iwyeb, is tarifi gimcirdeba.<br />
swored 2007 wels movida is periodi,<br />
rodesac „Telass” Cadebuli<br />
investiciebic amoRebuli hqonda<br />
da misi tarifi 3,7 TeTriT unda<br />
gaiafebuliyo. amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
moifiqres es memorandumi, romelsac<br />
xels awers zurab noRaideli<br />
da „inter-raos” mxridan direqtorTa<br />
sabWos Tavmjdomare rapaporti.<br />
es 2007 wlis 20 ivniss xdeba.<br />
rogorc aRvniSne, aq „inter-raos”<br />
valdebulebad Cauweres, rom<br />
2015 wlis pirvel seqtembramde 100<br />
megavatis sadgurs aaSenebda.<br />
winaswarganzraxuli memorandumis<br />
es piroba maregulirebelma<br />
komisiam tarifSi gautara da es 3,7<br />
meaTedi „Telass” ar Camoaklo.<br />
3,7 TeTri rom ar daaklo „Telass”,<br />
Cven vixdidiT amis safasurs,<br />
radgan dadebuli piroba ar<br />
Sesrulda. rac daviTvaleT, Cven<br />
„TelasTan”, daaxloebiT, 380 milionamde<br />
zedmetad gadavixadeT<br />
2012 wlisTvis. sad wavida, sad<br />
gaqra es Tanxa?!<br />
zustad igive pirobaa „energoprosTan”<br />
(premier-ministrma n. gilaurma<br />
gaaforma memorandumi).<br />
iciT, rom „energo-pro” Cexuri<br />
kompaniaa, „energo-pro jorjia” aqauri<br />
kompaniaa, romelic aq operirebs<br />
da ganawilebis licenzia<br />
aqvs. saerTod, sami gamanawilebeli<br />
kompania gvaqvs qveyanaSi. 1. „Telasi”,<br />
2. „kaxeTi” (gakotrebis reJim-<br />
Sia) da 3. „energo-pro”. e. i. Tbilisisa<br />
da kaxeTis garda, yvela abonenti<br />
„energo-prosia”, maT Soris,<br />
fizikuri da iuridiuli pirebi.<br />
„energo-prosac” hqonda sainvesticio<br />
valdebuleba: hesebi,<br />
mricxvelebi, xazi, amomrTvelebi<br />
unda gaesworebina da a. S., magram<br />
rodesac fulis amoRebas axorcielebs,<br />
masac aRniSnuli komponenti<br />
umcirdeba. im periodisTvis<br />
„energo-prosTan” es komponenti<br />
3,2-3,5 TeTrs Seadgenda, magram<br />
zustad igive memorandumi, igive<br />
sqema gaaformes „energo-prosTan”.<br />
man valdebuleba aiRo, rom 100<br />
10 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
idan saqarTveloSive rCeba _ sam-<br />
Seneblo masala, muSaxelis xelfasi,<br />
gadasaxadebi da a. S. metsac<br />
getyviT: gacilebiT momgebianad<br />
SeiZleboda am 34 milioni aSS<br />
dolaris gamoyeneba, Tu am fuls<br />
ise araprofesionalurad, diletantiviT<br />
ar gamoiyenebdi, rogorc<br />
es energetikis saministrom „moaxerxa”.<br />
Seqmniliyo e. w. feedin tarifis<br />
fondi (stimulirebis fondi) da<br />
investorebisTvis mcire da saSualo<br />
hidrosadgurebis mSenebloba<br />
SeeTvazebiana am diletantebiT<br />
savse energetikis saministros.<br />
amiT xom potenciur investorebs<br />
mniSvnelovnad SevumcirebdiT<br />
riskebs da arnaxul biZgs mivcemdiT<br />
mcire da saSualo hesebis<br />
mSeneblobis ganviTarebas. am<br />
pirobebSi aseTi stimuliT (sabazro<br />
fass plus tarifze garantirebuli<br />
danamati, 34 milioni aSS<br />
dolariani fondidan) ramdeni hesi<br />
aSendeboda. getyodiT, magram minda,<br />
am „ganaTlebul” energetikis<br />
saministros amocanad davutovo,<br />
iqneb, amoxsnan, magram ara mgonia,<br />
ver daZleven amocanas.<br />
dRes saxelmwifo saxsrebi uyairaTod<br />
iflangeba, es, rbilad<br />
rom vTqvaT, araprofesionalizmis<br />
gamo. Tumca zogierTi Cemi megobari<br />
mimtkicebs, aq sxva kriminalur<br />
movlenasTan gvaqvs saqmeo.<br />
ra vici, ra vici...<br />
swored amas vambob, rom kvalifikacia<br />
ar aqvT. ar ician, an saidan<br />
unda icodnen? kalaZe ambobs,<br />
istorikosi varo, valiSvili Tarjimania<br />
da energetika rogor unda<br />
icodnen? mTeli ubedureba is<br />
aris, rom aravis arc ekiTxebian.<br />
energetikuli seqtori ase daxuruli<br />
amitomac gaxades, rom zedmeti<br />
SekiTxva ar davusvaT.<br />
_ goris sadgurs rogori Sede-<br />
gebi aqvs?<br />
_ axla gauSves da amboben, rom<br />
dagegmilze meti gamouSva kilovatsaaTio.<br />
20 megavatia simZlavre<br />
da raRac Sedegi iqneba. kidev kargi,<br />
rom normaluri firmisgan iyides<br />
es aparatura. magram gaTvale<br />
mainc, aRniSnuli 34 milioniT ramden,<br />
xalxisTvis ufro dabaltarifian<br />
eleqtroenergias miiRebdi,<br />
meti muSaxeli dasaqmdeboda da<br />
qveyanaSi meti fulic darCeboda.<br />
kargi menejeroba swored es aris,<br />
rom yvelaze optimaluri varianti<br />
gaTvalo, muSaxels rogor<br />
asaqmeb, iaf energias rogor iReb<br />
da a. S.<br />
axla Semdegze gadavideT:<br />
dRevandel energetikis saministroSi<br />
investori rom movides da<br />
sxvadasxva hesze, magaliTad, memorandumis<br />
gaformeba moiTxovos<br />
(anu pirobebs akmayofilebs, sabanko<br />
garantia moitana da a. S), Tu<br />
adamiani upatronoa, memorandum-<br />
Si xels uweren, rom saxelmwifo<br />
garantirebulad am dens sami Tvis<br />
ganmavlobaSi Seisyidis. danarCeni<br />
Tavisufali xar, sadac ginda, iq<br />
gayideo, geubnebian.<br />
Tu cota „iseTi” patroni gyavs,<br />
eqvs Tves iyidian da Tu magari<br />
patroni gyavs, saxelmwifo garantirebulad<br />
rva Tves Seisyidis.<br />
SeiZleba, es 12 Tvemdec gaformdes.<br />
ratom aris es sxvaoba? zogan<br />
sam Tves deben, zog memorandumSi<br />
eqvs Tves da sxvagan _ 8, 12 Tves.<br />
korufcia Tu ar aris, ase ratom<br />
xdeba? amas SeuiaraRebeli Tvali-<br />
Tac rom Sexedav, korufcias amoicnob.<br />
kiTxvas vsvam, _ ra iwvevs<br />
am sxvaobas? tarifebs nu ikiTxavT,<br />
zogs 4,3 aSS centi aqvs, zogs _ 6,<br />
zogs _ 6,5, zogs _ 6,9, zogs _ 10.5<br />
da a. S. mokled, naswavli kaci advilad<br />
mixvdeba, rom sruli qaosia.<br />
es iman ganapiroba, Tu vin<br />
rogor Caexuteba aRniSnul situacias.<br />
wminda wylis korufciaa da<br />
amas bevri saubari arc sWirdeba.<br />
axla xval mival da metyvian, rom<br />
Sen garantirebulad sami Tveo,<br />
sxvas rva, Tormet Tves etyvian da<br />
ratom, es lamazi Tvalebis gulisTvis<br />
xom ar keTdeba? iq xom<br />
pirobebi erTi da igivea, mec unda<br />
davxarjo, manac da a. S.<br />
aseTi memorandumi investorTan<br />
formdeba. magaliTad, energetikis<br />
saministroSi vambob, rom me maqvs<br />
Tanxa da minda, hesi avaSeno. ai, Cemi<br />
sabanko garantia, Tanxebi da yvelaferi,<br />
saministro miwers memorandums<br />
hesis aSenebis Taobaze,<br />
rom garantirebulad sam Tves vyidulobo.<br />
Tu saqmes Caawyob, rva<br />
Tves da metsac mogcemen, ratom<br />
aseTi cdomileba?<br />
aseve, rodesac „Telasis” privatizeba<br />
moxda, gaxsovT, Tavidan<br />
amerikuli kompania iyo, mere rusul<br />
kompaniaze gaiyida, magram amerikuli<br />
kompaniis pirobebSic maT<br />
sakuTrebaSi hqondaT gadacemuli<br />
Tboeleqtrosadguri, gaxsovT IX-<br />
X blokebis istoria. da kidev:<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis dadgenilebiT<br />
gadacemuli hqondaT mar-<br />
TvaSi 2024 wlamde hesebi: „xrami1"<br />
da „xrami2". „xrami1"-is simZlavre<br />
112,8 megavatia, xolo „xrami2"-is<br />
simZlavre 110 megavatia. brwyinvale<br />
mdgomareobaSi myofi hesebia,<br />
iaponuri SeRavaTiani kreditiT<br />
reabilitirebuli („xrami2").<br />
mokled, rusulma „inter-raom”<br />
„moikla” Tavi am hesebis privatizebisTvis,<br />
Tu maSindeli „nacionalebis”<br />
saministrom ZaliT „Setena”<br />
okupants es saukeTeso hesebi,<br />
dRes amas veravin gaarkvevs. istoria<br />
da saministro, tradiciulad<br />
amaze dums. iseTi swrafi wesiT mihyides<br />
„nacionalebma” es hesebi<br />
rus okupantebs, rom saR gonze<br />
myof adamians aucileblad gauCndeba<br />
eWvi. privatizaciis Semdeg am<br />
hesebisTvis damtkicebul tarifs<br />
rom gadaxedavT, aSkarad uamravi<br />
kiTxva dagebadebaT. am privatizaciis<br />
marTlzomierebaze eWvi namdvilad<br />
gagiRvivdebaT, magram es<br />
isev gonier adamianebs da ara am sakiTxze<br />
ukve 4 weli gasusul energetikis<br />
saministrosa da „TvalebdaxuWul”<br />
maregulirebel komisias.<br />
am mTavar „energetikul” organizaciebSi<br />
momuSave adamianebs<br />
saeWvod ar uCdebaT es kiTxva,<br />
rogor SeiZleba, rom 112,8 da 110-<br />
megavatian hess ufro meti Semosavali<br />
aqvs, vidre 1300-megavatian<br />
„engurhess”?! ratom dauweses „nacionalebma”<br />
amaT didi tarifi?<br />
Tu es korufcia ar aris, maSin<br />
rasTan gvaqvs saqme? da es specialurad<br />
rusebisTvis gaakeTes! iq<br />
swored piroba iyo Cadebuli, rom<br />
Cven amas mogyidiT, magram iseT<br />
tarifs gagikeTebT, rom Tqven es<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
gadaxdili fuli ucbadve ukan SemogitrialdeTo.<br />
is fuli am „inter-raos”<br />
cxrajer aqvs amoRebuli,<br />
ra fuliTac es hesebi iyida.<br />
xolo tarifi rvajer ufro maRali<br />
aqvs, vidre _ „engurhess”. am<br />
dros „engurhesi” aTjer ufro<br />
mZlavi da saWiroa, vidre „xrami1"<br />
da „xrami2". „nacionalebis” saqcieli<br />
am sakiTxSi CemTvis gasagebi<br />
iyo. 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi ratom ar<br />
ikvlevda am sakiTxs an saministro<br />
an axali semeki, aq ukve kiTxvac<br />
aRar maqvs.<br />
_ es xelSekrulebebi rodis<br />
gaformda?<br />
_ 2008 wlis Semdeg da dResac<br />
is tarifebia. vimeoreb: am or hess<br />
imxela Semosavali aqvs, rom „engurze”,<br />
realurad, rvajer metia.<br />
rogor SeiZleba, 1300-megavatiani<br />
hesi aseT pirobebSi iyos?! es xom<br />
Cveni mTavari hesia, qveynis 40-45%-<br />
is gamomuSavebiT. erTxel „engurze”<br />
ucxoeli myavda Cayvanili<br />
da espanelma miTxra, _ Cven rom<br />
aseTi hesi gvqondes, gerbze gamovxatavdiTo.<br />
rogor SeiZleba, „engurhesze”<br />
rvajer ufro didi<br />
tarifi hqondes „xramhess”?<br />
_ ratom ar gadaixedeba<br />
tarifebi?<br />
_ es xom realurad erTi da<br />
igive gundia: xeTaguri, kalaZe,<br />
gilauri da a.S. energetikaSi vin<br />
Seicvala, isev xeTagurisa da gilauris<br />
kadrebi, naTesav-megobrebi,<br />
muSaoben. gadaxedeT jer saministros<br />
kadrebs, Semdeg eleqtrosistemas,<br />
gadaxedeT „saqrusenergos”,<br />
„gazisa da navTobis korporacias”,<br />
„transportirebis kompanias”,<br />
„navTobisa da gazis saagentos”,<br />
erTi da igive Semadgenlobaa.<br />
aravin Tqvas, rom axali vinme<br />
movida da raRac daetyo aRniSnul<br />
sistemas, erTi da igive jaWvi, CaZmakacebuli<br />
Temaa. vimeoreb: Tan<br />
dargi daxures, rom sxvam zedmeti<br />
SekiTxvebi aRar dasvas!<br />
erT patara magaliTsac mogiyvanT:<br />
aviRoT es sameTvalyureo<br />
sabWoebi. yvela saxelmwifos mier<br />
Seqmnil kompanias aqvs sameTvalyureo<br />
sabWoebi. ra niSniT iniSnebian,<br />
magaliTad, „engurze” sameTvalyureo<br />
sabWos wevrebi, kalaZis<br />
axloblebi? ra kvalifikaciiT iniSnebian,<br />
energetikis rame ician,<br />
rame aqvT gakeTebuli?<br />
samagierod, Zalian gaberili<br />
xelfasebi aqvT da, saerTod, Tu<br />
ician, sad aris „engurhesi”? an<br />
„saqrusenergoSi” sameTvalyureo<br />
sabWos wevrebi ra niSniT dainiSnen,<br />
an sxvagan es ra niSniT xdeba?<br />
_ mainc, viszea saubari?<br />
_ ekonomikis saministroSi werili<br />
gavgzavne da viTxov Camona-<br />
Tvals, gavakeTeb da SemdegSi<br />
mogawvdiT. saerTod, „engurhesis”<br />
sameTvalyureo sabWoSi samtredielebi<br />
arian, ra esaqmebaT, energetikosebi<br />
arian, ra damsaxurebisTvis<br />
moxvdnen? kalaZem Tavis axloblebs<br />
gaukeTa Tanamdebobebi.<br />
Tu ginda, kaci gaazarmaco, same-<br />
Tvalyureo sabWos wevrad unda<br />
dasva. iq aris, kai xelfasebs iReben<br />
da vekiTxebi, saerTod, sad aris<br />
enguri? ra aris es obieqti, saer-<br />
Tod, Tu azrze arian?<br />
kidev erTi saintereso detalia,<br />
romelic msurs, rom mosaxleobam<br />
icodes: gazis xelSekrulebaze<br />
amxela ambavi aris atexili da<br />
eseni informacias malaven. aseve<br />
malaven „sokaridan” Sesyidvis fassac.<br />
Cveni moxmarebis 92% azerbaijanul<br />
gazze modis. 8% is gazia,<br />
romelic aqamde tranzitis<br />
Sedegad naturiT rCeboda. opoziciaSi<br />
yofnis drosac, „qarTul<br />
ocnebasTan” erTad, gazis fasebis<br />
gaxsnas viTxovdiT, radgan mosaxleobam<br />
icodes, ra gazs da ramdenad<br />
vyidulobT.<br />
erTi aris socialuri gazi da<br />
misi safasuri, meorea komerciuli<br />
`erTxel `engurze~ ucxoeli myavda Cayvanili da espanelma miTxra, - Cven<br />
rom aseTi hesi gvqondes, gerbze gamovxatavdiTo. rogor SeiZleba,<br />
`engurhesze~ rvajer ufro didi tarifi hqondes `xramhess?~<br />
gazi, mesame TboeleqtrosadgurebisTvis<br />
sxva tarifi da a. S. aq yvelaze<br />
saintereso ra aris: „sokari”<br />
sad yidis am gazs? es saqarTveloazerbaijanis<br />
sazRvarze xdeba.<br />
„sokari” azerbaijanis saxelmwifo<br />
navTobisa da gazis kompaniaa. yvelam<br />
ase icis, rom Semsyidveli<br />
saqarTvelos gazisa da navTobis<br />
korporaciaa, magram am korporaciasa<br />
da „”sokars” Soris 5 firma<br />
rom aris (raRac Sps, kompaniebi),<br />
eseni vin arian? ratom arian amaT<br />
Soris da am firmebis Tanxebi<br />
faswarmoqmnaze ratom aisaxeba?<br />
yvela firmas raRac Tanxa emateba<br />
da es komponenti izrdeba, Semdeg<br />
gazis korporacia yidulobs.<br />
_ konkretulad, ra firmebzea<br />
saubari?<br />
_ saqmec es aris, ratom ar xsnian<br />
frCxilebs, Tu vis warmoadgenen<br />
es firmebi? ra esaqmebaT,<br />
raSi monawileoben? ubralod, isini<br />
Cagdebuli aqvT „sokarsa da<br />
gazis korporacias Soris da amiT<br />
bunebrivi airis fasi imatebs. ratom<br />
ar unda vicode, ra fasad yidulobs<br />
saxelmwifo am gazs?<br />
_ ar mogiTxoviaT es informa-<br />
cia?<br />
_ am moTxovnas vagzavni, magram<br />
amazec gvetyvian, rom es daxuruli<br />
komerciuli saidumloebaa,<br />
Tumca es, jer kidev, wina xelisuflebis<br />
periodidan modis. es<br />
firmebi dRes ki ar gaCenila, Zveli<br />
droidan asxedan da mainteresebs,<br />
saerTod vin arian? anu saqarTvelos<br />
navTobisa da gazis korporacias<br />
visTan udevs xelSekruleba<br />
da ra fasad? rom amboben,<br />
SeTanxmeba „sokarTan” gvidevso,<br />
ase ki araa, jer am mexuTe firmas-<br />
Tan, mere meoTxesTan, mesamesTan,<br />
meoresTan, pirvelTan da mere modis<br />
„sokari”.<br />
ai, es yvela firma Tavis safasurs<br />
iRebs. zogi qarTuli, zogi<br />
ofSoruli, zogi azerbaijanuli<br />
firmaa, amitom garkvevaa saWiro. me<br />
ki vici, ra firmebi arian, magram<br />
maTi pasuxebi mainteresebs. axla<br />
vugzavni werils gazis korporacias<br />
da TviTonve gascen pasuxi,<br />
Tu ratom vixdiT maT fuls, an<br />
ratom aravin interesdeba, ra of-<br />
Sorulma kompaniam iyida gazis sakmaod<br />
didi sadistribucio nawili<br />
kompania „iterasgan”. arsebobs<br />
eWvi, rom is ofSori (romelic Semdeg<br />
„sokars” dauZmobilda) dResac<br />
merabiSvilis, xeTaguris, gilauris,<br />
adeiSvilis sakuTrebaa. dRes,<br />
mgoni, „saqorgazi” hqvia.<br />
ratom monawileoben es firmebi<br />
faswarmoqmnaSi, ratomaa komerciul<br />
seqtorSi ase Zviri gazi?!<br />
_ Seqmnili problemebidan ga-<br />
mosavals sad xedavT?<br />
_ energetikis saministrodan es<br />
arakvalificiuri gundi saxlSi<br />
unda wavides, ukve bevri ziani<br />
mogvayenes. aseve saxlSi unda wavidnen<br />
maregulirebel komisiaSi<br />
mokalaTebuli is „specialistebi”,<br />
romlebic ver da ar xedavdnen<br />
zemoT aRniSnul memorandumebs,<br />
hesebis („xramebi”) tarifebs, gazis<br />
seqtorSi aSkara qaoss. parlamentSi<br />
aucileblad sagamoZiebo komisia<br />
unda Seiqmnas. prokuraturam<br />
es xelSekrulebebi unda Seiswavlos.<br />
aseve saxelmwifo auditis<br />
samsaxurma saswrafod unda Seiswavlon<br />
es memorandumebi, gazis<br />
fasebi da a. S. auditis samsaxurma<br />
unda dados daskvna, aRniSnuli<br />
memorandumebiT ra ziani miadga<br />
saxelmwifos, xalxs da a. S. rom<br />
xalxs amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi<br />
zedmeti fuli axdevines.<br />
saxelmwifo auditis samsaxurma<br />
unda daiTvalos, „xrami1"-sa da<br />
„xrami2"-s ratom aqvs ase didi<br />
tarifi?<br />
„qronika+”-is meSveobiT mivmar-<br />
Tav politikur partiebs da minda<br />
vTxovo, rom amaze reagireba moadinon.<br />
amasve vTxov parlamentis<br />
deputatebsa da a. S. aseve werilobiT<br />
mivmarTav im organoebs, romlebic<br />
CamovTvale. mediakavSiri<br />
„obieqtivic” mimarTavs dainteresebul<br />
mxareebs da amas ase ar davtovebT.<br />
xalxi miliardamde lariT gayvlifes.<br />
Tundac, es ori kontraqti<br />
da kidev sxva raRacebi rom daviTvaloT,<br />
xalxis fuli _ miliardamde<br />
_ jibeSi Caides.<br />
_ ras eliT?<br />
_ saerTod, araferi imaleba.<br />
xalxma daTvlac iswavla da energetikis<br />
saministros Tu hgonia,<br />
rom yvelafers daxuravs, sadRac<br />
sardafSi Caiketeba da iqidan imuSavebs,<br />
ase ar iqneba. am yvelafers<br />
saerTaSoriso samsjavroze gamovitanT.<br />
madloba RmerTs, qveyanaSi<br />
arian specialistebi, romlebmac<br />
daTvlac ician, energetikac da<br />
xalxis samsaxurSic iqnebian. is,<br />
rom me es xelSekruleba gavasaidumloe<br />
da Sen ra gesaqmeba, _ es am<br />
qveyanaSi damTavrdeba.<br />
wina xelisufleba amitom damTavrda<br />
da saministroebSi es naSTebi<br />
datoves. energetikis saministro<br />
swored wina xelisuflebis<br />
gagrZelebaa. ministri kalaZec Zveli<br />
xelisuflebis pirdapiri gagr-<br />
Zelebaa. xelisufleba parlamentSi<br />
Seicvala, sadRac kidev Seicvala,<br />
magram energetikis saministroSi<br />
araferi Secvlila. iq „vardebis<br />
revoluciis” Semdgom „nacionalebis”<br />
mmarTveloba gr-<br />
Zeldeba.<br />
11
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
vis lobireben zaqaria qucnaSvili<br />
da irakli tripolski?!<br />
arasamTavrobo organizacia<br />
neli vardiaSvili<br />
„aragvelebi XXI saukunis” Tavmj-<br />
597 11 12 47<br />
domare, vaJa saRiraSvili, „qroni-<br />
ka+”-s duSeTis municipalitetSi<br />
arsebul ganukiTxaobaze esaubra. igi xelisuflebas munici-<br />
palitetis gamgeblis, vaJa (gizo) Coxelis ganTavisuflebas<br />
sTxovs. misi TqmiT, auditis samsaxuris bolo periodis<br />
daskvnac sakmarisia, rom am adamianis winaaRmdeg sisxlis sa-<br />
marTlebrivi devna daiwyos.<br />
vaJa saRiraSvili:<br />
_ duSeTis gamgebeli, vaJa (gizo)<br />
Coxeli, winaT „nacionali” iyo,<br />
Tumca, bolo dros, saqarTveloSi<br />
ramdeni xelisufalic movida, imdenTan<br />
hqonda siamtkbiloba da<br />
„fers” advilad icvlida. is gaxlavT<br />
tipuri medrove. 2007 wels<br />
Coxeli „nacionalebis” warmomadgeneli<br />
iyo duSeTis sakrebuloSi,<br />
dedamisi ki raionis erT-erT biblioTekaSi<br />
muSaobda. winaT biblioTekebi<br />
saministros eqvemdebareboda,<br />
am periodidan ki municipalitetis<br />
daqvemdebarebaSi gadavida,<br />
rasac reorganizacia mohyva<br />
da biblioTekebis xelmZRvanelis<br />
poziciaze vakansia gamocxadda.<br />
erT-erTma axalgazrda qalbatonma,<br />
romlis gvarsac, garkveuli<br />
mizezebis gamo, amjerad, ar davasaxeleb<br />
da mxolod imas vityvi,<br />
rom mas irma hqvia, am poziciaze<br />
muSaobis dasawyebad sabuTebi<br />
Seitana. mas ivane javaxiSvilis saxelmwifo<br />
universiteti aqvs dam-<br />
Tavrebuli. Coxels am adgilze dedamisis<br />
gayvana undoda, magram municipalitetSi<br />
axalgazrda kadri<br />
ufro moiwones. mas Semdeg Coxeli<br />
am qalbatons gadaekida da ar gaaxara.<br />
_ ras niSnavs, ar gaaxara, iqneb,<br />
dagvikonkretoT?<br />
_ roca qalbatoni irma am samsaxurSi<br />
daniSnes, Coxelis gabrazebulma<br />
dedam, gulsunda qimbariSvilma,<br />
gancxadeba dawera da saer-<br />
Tod wavida samsaxuridan, Tumca is<br />
ukve pensiaze gadioda. im dros,<br />
aseve tardeboda, testirebebi da<br />
ase iRebdnen biblioTekis Tanam-<br />
Sromlebs, magram, etyoba, testirebis<br />
gavla ar undoda. manamde am<br />
qalbatons biblioTekaSi fondi<br />
ebara, sadac garkveuli problemebi<br />
Seeqmna da, wyevla-krulviT,<br />
TavisiT wavida saxlSi.<br />
2012 wels, roca xelisufleba-<br />
Si „qarTuli ocneba” movida, Coxeli<br />
ukve am partiaSi iyo gadabargebuli<br />
da, amjerad, gamgeblad moevlina<br />
duSeTs. am droidan dedamismac<br />
moirgo municipalitetSi<br />
ruxi kardinalis roli. is biblioTekaSi<br />
rekavda, TanamSromlebs<br />
ibarebda da a. S. rogorc xdeba xolme,<br />
gamgeblis dedas TanamSromlebi<br />
Sexvedrebze uars ar eubnebodnen<br />
da mas uaxlovdebodnen.<br />
erT dRes gamgebelma qalbatoni<br />
irma daibara da gamoucxada, rom<br />
mas samsaxuridan aTavisuflebda.<br />
am dros, aseve kanondarRveviT,<br />
gaaTavisufla erT-erTi aaip-is xelmZRvaneli.<br />
rodesac maT Coxels<br />
ganTavisuflebis mizezis axsna<br />
mosTxoves, gamgebelma mizezi ver<br />
daasaxela da imis mtkiceba daiwyo,<br />
rom dedamisic profesionali<br />
iyo, magram, Tavis droze, ukanonod<br />
aiZules testirebaSi monawileoba.<br />
_ Tqven „nacebis” dros dainiSneT<br />
am samsaxurebSi, maSin monawileobdiT<br />
testirebaSi da amitom<br />
12<br />
Tqveni am Tanamdebobebze gaCereba<br />
aRar SeiZlebao, _ daufaravad ganucxada<br />
gamgebelma.<br />
_ amas ambobda, rogorc Tqven<br />
miTxariT, portirebuli „naciona-<br />
li”?<br />
_ qalbatonma irmam sasamarTloSi<br />
uCivla da meore welia, rac<br />
maT Soris samarTlebrivi dava mimdinareobs.<br />
saqalaqo sasamarTlom<br />
gamgeblis xelSekruleba da yvela<br />
brZaneba ukanonod cno da aRiara,<br />
rom qalbatoni irma ukanonod gaa-<br />
Tavisufles. mas fuladi kompensacia<br />
ganusazRvres, magram gadawyvetilebaSi<br />
samsaxurSi aRdgenaze<br />
saubari ar aris. axla saqme saapelacio<br />
sasamarTloSia da es qalbatoni<br />
iTxovs, Tu Coxelis yvela<br />
gadawyvetileba da xelSekruleba<br />
ukanono iyo da amas sasamarTlo<br />
aRiarebs, samsaxurSi Cem aRdgenas<br />
win ra unda aRudgeso? isic gaiTvaliswineT,<br />
rom am kompensacias<br />
saxelmwifo ixdis da ukve uamrav<br />
adamians gadauxada.<br />
_ anu sasamarTlo eubneba, rom<br />
ukanonod arian ganTavisuflebulebi,<br />
kompensacias uwesebs, ma-<br />
gram samsaxurSi ar aRadgens da<br />
arc imas sTxovs pasuxs, vinc es<br />
ukanonoba Caidina?<br />
_ sainteresoa, ramdenad normaluria,<br />
roca saxelmwifo biujetidan<br />
imis gamo kargavs Tanxebs,<br />
rom Tanamdebobis pirebma dar-<br />
Rvevebi da danaSauli Caidines? an,<br />
Tu aRiareben, rom danaSauli Cinovnikma<br />
Caidina, ratom ar sjian<br />
mas? qalbatoni irmas ganTavisuflebis<br />
Semdeg duSeTis biblio-<br />
TekaSi direqtorad dainiSna gamgeblis<br />
dedis daqali, pensioneri<br />
neli TeTruaSvili. gamgeblis dedac<br />
erTi kviris win daniSnes biblioTekaSi<br />
da misTvis Stati specialurad<br />
dauSves. rogorc Sevityve,<br />
TeTruaSvils TaTbiri Cautarebia<br />
da iq uTqvams, rom gamgeblis<br />
TxovniT axali TanamSromeli<br />
miiRes. am dros municipalitetSi<br />
uamravi gaWirvebulia, romelTac<br />
samsaxuri ar aqvT, uamravi ojaxia,<br />
sadac erTi adamianic ki ar aris<br />
dasaqmebuli! sruli ganukiTxaobaa.<br />
patara Waobad iqca municipaliteti,<br />
sadac patara monarqi<br />
gvizis. es yvelaferi imaze metyvelebs,<br />
rom Coxels mfarveloben.<br />
_ vin mfarvelobs Cox-<br />
els?<br />
_ iciT, ramdeni da-<br />
Sauli Caidina am adamianma?!<br />
dajerebac ki<br />
SeuZlebelia. rac eg<br />
dainiSna, mas Semdeg<br />
duSeTSi nepotizmi<br />
yvavis, milioni laria<br />
gaflanfuli<br />
biujetidan<br />
da amaze<br />
auditis samsaxurma<br />
daskvnac<br />
dado.<br />
man biujet-<br />
irakli tripolski<br />
idan TanamSromlebi daafinansa,<br />
gogirdis abanoebiT siamovneba<br />
rom mieRoT. „nacionalebze” mze<br />
da mTvare ar amomdis, magram man<br />
gamgeobisa Tu sxva aaip-ebis TanamSromlebi<br />
politikuri niSniT<br />
gaaTavisufla. yvela maTganma sasamarTloSi<br />
iCivla, procesi moigo<br />
da Coxelma yvelas gadauxada kompensacia<br />
biujetidan. ziani mas<br />
sakuTari jibidan unda aenazRaurebina,<br />
radgan Tavad Caidina dana-<br />
Sauli da saxelmwifo biujeti arafer<br />
SuaSia. ver davasaxeleb, vin<br />
miTxra, magram vici, rom mas tripolski<br />
mfarvelobs. amdeni dana-<br />
Saulis Semdeg is araTu pasuxisgebaSi<br />
ar aris micemuli, Zveleburad<br />
zis gamgeblis Tanamdebobaze<br />
da cxadia, danaSaulebriv saqmianobebsac<br />
agrZelebs. me isic vici,<br />
rom Coxeli am Tanamdebobaze tripolskis<br />
rekomentaciiT dasves.<br />
winasaarCevnod, roca zaqaria<br />
qucnaSvili sofel mezvriaanT karSi<br />
xalxs xvdeboda, masTan Selaparakeba<br />
momixda. vkiTxe, _ Tu du-<br />
SeTis deputatobaze gqonda pretenzia,<br />
aqamde sad iyavi da ratom<br />
ar amoiRe xma Coxelze-meTqi? Sempirda,<br />
rom aucileblad miiRebda<br />
zomebs da damnaSavec daisjeboda,<br />
magram es gvari, qucnaSvils, mas mere<br />
arc uxsenebia. cxadia, gonivruli<br />
eWvi maqvs, rom gizo Coxelma,<br />
qucnaSvilic moqrTama.. rac Seexeba<br />
auditis daskvnas, is axalia,<br />
ori-sami Tvis dawerili da aucileblad<br />
sruli saxiT gadmogcemT.<br />
rogorc miTxres, auditis daskvnidan<br />
meore-mesame dRes gamgeobaSi<br />
kontrolis palata Tu prokuratura<br />
Sevida, magram Coxels<br />
hyavs politikuri mama _ irakli<br />
tripolski da isev gadarCa. Ss<br />
saministros kadrebis samsaxurSi<br />
vinme Coxeli muSaobs da amboben,<br />
is iqidan mfarvelobso da awyobili<br />
aqvs saqme portirebul „nacionals”.<br />
sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
vacxadeb: Coxeli aris TaRli-<br />
Ti, kriminali da damnaSave. municipalitetis<br />
realuri mmarTveli<br />
aris dedamisi. xalxi mas rux kardinals<br />
eZaxis, radgan vin, sad da<br />
rodis unda dainiSnos, faqtobrivad,<br />
is wyvets da mere Svili oficialurad<br />
aformebs, rasac dediko<br />
etyvis.“<br />
duSeTis municipalitetis 2014-<br />
2015 wlebis safinanso-ekonomikuri<br />
saqmianobis Sesabamisobis auditis<br />
vrcel angariSs (#71/36), sadac<br />
bevri saintereso faqtia moyvanili,<br />
„qronika+” Semdeg nomerSi<br />
SemogTavazebT.<br />
sakiTxSi ukeT garkvevis mizniT,<br />
Tavdapirvelad, duSeTis gamgeobis<br />
pressamsaxuris warmomad-<br />
genels, Tekla beqaurs vesaubreT<br />
da detalurad avuxseniT sakiTxi:<br />
_ gamgebeli adgilze ar imyofeba<br />
da saRamos ukrainaSi mifrinavs.<br />
ver getyviT, moxerxdeba Tu<br />
ara es komentari. SemiZlia, axla<br />
davukavSirde da vuTxra, rom<br />
Tqven damirekeT. am wuTSi is emzadeba<br />
da unda gafrindes. 17 Tebervals<br />
CamobrZandeba da ara mgonia,<br />
es sakiTxi saCqaro iyos.<br />
_ duSeTis gamgeblis<br />
ukrainaSi vizitis gamo<br />
gazeTis gamocemas ver<br />
SevaCerebT.<br />
_ kiTxvebi eleqtronul<br />
fostaze gamogzavneT<br />
da vnaxoT.<br />
cxadia, gavagzavneT<br />
da pasuxs davelodeT.<br />
mogvianebiT<br />
pressamsaxurisgan<br />
Semdegi Setyobineba<br />
miviReT: „fiz-<br />
zaqaria qucnaSvili<br />
ikurad ar SemiZlia mivawodo. ar<br />
mosula isev. vfiqrob, ver moxerxdeba<br />
es komentari“.<br />
,,qronika+“-ma irakli tri-<br />
polskisTan dakavSireba scada.<br />
parlamentaris samuSao kabinetis<br />
nomerze misma TanaSemwe giorgim<br />
gvipasuxa:<br />
_ samuSao daasrula da ukve<br />
wavida.<br />
roca avuxseniT, ra sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT vurekavdiT, Zalian<br />
gabrazda:<br />
_ me erT rames getyviT: aravin<br />
aravis ar mfarvelobs, baton vaJas<br />
Tavis pirad gamoZiebaSi RmerTma<br />
xeli moumarTos, magram sanam sxvaze<br />
xels gaiSvers, Tavis Tavze<br />
dafiqrdes.<br />
_ ki magram, Tqven am TemasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT saqmis kursSi xarT?<br />
_ me araferi vici, magram rom<br />
ar vici, amitom vambob, _ sanam ambavs<br />
Jurnalistebamde miitans,<br />
SeuZlia, Tu raime pretenzia aqvs,<br />
jer im adamianTan ilaparakos.<br />
TanaSemwem batoni iraklis piradi<br />
telefoni mogvca, romelzec<br />
davurekeT, magram jer dakaveba<br />
hqonda, mere ki ar gvipasuxa.<br />
,,qronika+“ zaqaria qucnaSvil-<br />
sac daukavSirda:<br />
_ arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />
xelmZRvanels garkveuli pre-<br />
tenziebi aqvs duSeTis gamgeblis<br />
mimarT da is acxadebs, rom amis<br />
Sesaxeb winasaarCevnod Tqvenc<br />
SegatyobinaT. dapirebulxarT<br />
kidec, rom sakiTxs SeiswavlidiT<br />
da moagvarebdiT, magram es adamiani<br />
ambobs, rom mere aRar dain-<br />
teresebulxarT. mas gonivruli<br />
eWvi aqvs, rom Tqven duSeTis<br />
gamgebels mfarvelobT...<br />
_ ganaTlebuli qalbatoni br-<br />
ZandebiT da ra cnoba unda miiRos<br />
kanonmdebelma aseT dros, xom ver<br />
metyviT?<br />
_ is ambobs, rom es aris kanon-<br />
darRvevebi da danaSauli, batono<br />
zaqaria...<br />
_ hoda, kanonmdebelma ra unda<br />
qnas-meTqi, iqneb, miTxraT? egrec<br />
rom iyos, eg pirovneba rogorc saubros,<br />
kanonmdebelma ra unda qnas?<br />
_ kanonis dacvaze izrunos, Se-<br />
sabamis uwyebebs rekomendaciiT<br />
mimarTos, kanonis aRsruleba gaa-<br />
kontrolos..<br />
12 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
axalgazrdebma Tavisi SromiTi<br />
rezo SatakiSvili<br />
uflebebis dasacavad xma aima-<br />
Rles. am procesma, TiTqmis,<br />
paralelurad ifeTqa „biblussa” da „freskoSi”. damafiqrebe-<br />
lia is, rasac es adamianebi aprotesteben da asmagad dama-<br />
fiqrebelia is, rac mohyva maT protests. solidarobas vin<br />
Civis, yvelam TiTo lodi dauSina sakuTari volidan am axalgazrdebs<br />
Casaqolad da metic, gaxsnes Tema, vin, sad da ram-<br />
deni aiRo pirvel xelfasad.<br />
rasac axla vwer, aranairad ar<br />
exeba arc „freskos”, arc „bibluss”.<br />
imitom ki ara, rom eWvi Semaqvs<br />
im adamianebis gulwrfelobaSi,<br />
romlebmac gausaZlisi pirobebi<br />
gaaprotestes, aramed imitom,<br />
rom swored aseTive gausaZlisi<br />
pirobebia mTel qveyanaSi, yvela<br />
supermarketSi, yvela didsa Tu patara<br />
dawesebulebaSi da es Cven<br />
yvelam gadasarevad viciT. viciT<br />
da Cumad varT, viciT da xmas ar<br />
viRebT, viciT da fexebze gvkidia<br />
sxva da metic, Tuki vinme xmas amoiRebs,<br />
nacvlad imisa, rom maT<br />
adgilze Cveni Tavi, Cveni umcrosi<br />
debi, Zmebi, Cveni megobrebi warmovidginoT,<br />
maT iqiT vamunaTebT da<br />
umal gazuluqebuli damsaqmeblebis<br />
gverdiT vkalaTdebiT. ratom?<br />
imitom xom ara, rom CvenSic<br />
potenciuri plantatoria da maT-<br />
Tan ufro vaxdenT identifikacias?<br />
ra, ar viciT, ra xelfasad da<br />
ra pirobebSi uwevT am gogo-biWebs<br />
muSaoba ginda, „freskoSi”, gindac,<br />
„niSaSi” da gindac, „nikoraSi”?<br />
Tvalebi ar gaqvT? ar uyurebT am<br />
TvalebamoRamebul kafandara<br />
gogo-biWebs? ar iciT, ramden larad<br />
uwevT dRis da Ramis gasworeba?<br />
namusi marTla jarTSi CaabareT?<br />
rom gamodixarT da urcxvad<br />
tlikinebT, xelSekrulebebs rom<br />
xels awerdnen, ar icodnen, ra<br />
pirobebze midiodnen samuSaodo?<br />
jer erTi, romc ar kiTxulobdnen<br />
es gogo-biWebi am xelSekrulebebs<br />
da ise awerdnen xels da iwyebdnen<br />
muSaobas, ra, es am Taobis<br />
nouhaua? aqamde yvela lupiT<br />
kiTxulobda am qveyanaSi xelSekrulebebs<br />
da am gogo-biWebma daiwyes<br />
xelSekrulebebze waukiTxavad<br />
xelmowera? enas rom kiserze<br />
kaSnesaviT igdebT laqlaqisgan,<br />
erTi, Tqven ramdenjer gaqvT wakiTxuli<br />
striqon-striqon yvela<br />
xelSekruleba, razec ki odesme<br />
xeli mogiweriaT?<br />
cxadia, yvela maTganma icoda,<br />
ra kapikebzedac midiodnen samuSaod<br />
_ gasamrjelos yvela kiTxulobs.<br />
davuSvaT da xelSekrulebac<br />
wakiTxuli hqondaT da yvela<br />
pirobas iyvnen winaswar gacnobilebi<br />
da daTanxdnen am pirobebs,<br />
ra, sulwasulebs amoxrialebis<br />
uflebac aRar aqvT? ki, daTanxmdnen<br />
mag anazRaurebas, magram sxva<br />
arCevani hqondaT? kiTxulobT<br />
mainc, ramdengan mividnen es gogobiWebi<br />
samuSaos Zebnisas, ramdengan<br />
uTxres igive anazRaureba da ra<br />
qnan? arsad ar imuSaon da mSivrebi<br />
iyvnen? ra, sxvagan am bavSvebs<br />
vinme met anazRaurebas sTavazobda<br />
da isini mividnen da am konkretul<br />
obieqtebze dasTanxmdnen dabal<br />
anazRaurebas? ra unda qnas<br />
adamianma, rodesac yvelgan erTi<br />
da igive pirobebia? yyelgan erTi<br />
da igive _ dabali da gausaZlisi<br />
pirobebi? an rom SedixarT da am<br />
mSromel gogo-biWebs zemodan<br />
uyurebT, Tavi vin ggoniaT, Tqven<br />
patriciebi brZandebiT da isini _<br />
monebi? rodesac saxlSi giyriaT<br />
gazuluqebuli, paraziti Svilebi,<br />
macivridan mza saWmelsac rom ver<br />
iReben da Tqven gelodebian, SoSiis<br />
bartyebiviT pirSi CaudoT, ar<br />
grcxveniaT mainc, am mSromel bavSvebs<br />
rom zemodan uyurebT?! maTgan<br />
rom amerikul Rimils iTxovT,<br />
im amerikebSi da evropebSi rom<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
pirveli<br />
xelfasi<br />
datlakunobT, erTi im amerikel,<br />
evropel momxmareblebsac SexedeT,<br />
TqvensaviT bRveriT pasuxoben<br />
supermarketebsa Tu bar-restornebSi<br />
dasaqmebul adamianebs?<br />
aa, ukacravad, magaT RimilSi uxdian<br />
da Tqven ara, xom? emand, RmerTi<br />
ar gagiwyreT, qarTveloba<br />
aravin wagarTvaT, muqTad Subli<br />
ar gaxsnaT, daibRvireT, mujlugunic<br />
wahkariT, TavSic CaafareT am<br />
bavSvebs.<br />
yvelas aqvs ufleba, eWvi Seitanos<br />
am adamianebis protestis<br />
gulwrfelobaSi, Tundac, ivaraudos,<br />
rom es am konkretuli kompaniebis<br />
konkurenti kompaniebisgan<br />
agorebuli kampaniaa am kompaniebis<br />
CasaZirad. yvelas aqvs ufleba,<br />
cota ambiciurad eCvenos es gogobiWebi<br />
da, ra Tqma unda, imis uflebac<br />
gaqvT, daiboRmoT maT mcire<br />
xelfasebzec da bonusebzec, romelsac<br />
jarimebiT ukreWen. erTi<br />
xeliT bonuss aZleven, meoriT _<br />
jarimis saxiT aWrian. ki, azris gamoxatvis<br />
Tavisuflebis egidiT da<br />
safarqveS boRmis nTxevis uflebac<br />
gaqvT, eg Tqveni boRmac „legitimuria”,<br />
magram ra gboRmavT?<br />
giyurebT da Tqven Semxedvares,<br />
iciT, ra maxsendeba? adreul bavSvobaSi<br />
yvela moxuci gvaZaxebda,<br />
Tqven omi ar ginaxavT, Tqven omi<br />
ar ginaxavTo! mere moxda ise, rom<br />
yvela omi vnaxeT, Tan maTsaviT distanciurad<br />
_ kavkasions gadaRma<br />
ki ara, ager aq, cxvirwin _ Tbilis-<br />
Si, samaCabloSi, afxazeTSi, yvela<br />
omma da ubedurebam Cvens zurgze<br />
gadaiara. axla Tqvenc im myrali<br />
bebrebiviT damdgarxarT da ixsenebT,<br />
vin ra gausaZlis pirobeb-<br />
Si daiwyeT muSaoba da ramden kapiks<br />
gixdidnen. anu ra? rom Tqven<br />
uaresi gaqvT gamovlili xmis amouReblad<br />
da rakiRa Tqven es jojoxeTi<br />
gamoiareT, yvelam es jojoxeTi<br />
unda gamoiaros dRes? xa-<br />
Tuna cxadaZis Tqmis ar iyos: „...ukacravad<br />
da vis ra fexebad ainteresebs,<br />
vin ramdens viRebdiT xelfass<br />
da vis ramodona qaqi gviWamia?<br />
maSin arc deni gvqonda, arc<br />
gazi, arc sxva sikeTe da arc evropaze<br />
da warmatebul saxelmwifoze<br />
yrantalebdnen qveynis „liderebi”.<br />
rom movketoT da Tu vinmes ramiT<br />
SegviZlia, mxari davuWiroT am axalgazrdebs,<br />
romlebsac marTla<br />
Zalian uWirT am aRviraxsnil qveyanaSi,<br />
sabazro ekonomikaze rom<br />
ratratebs (da bananebis respublikamdec<br />
bevri ar aklia), ar Sei-<br />
Zleba?” (xaTuna cxadaZis postidan).<br />
ra gindaT, rogorc Tqven daitanjeT,<br />
ise gindaT, rom dResac<br />
itanjebodnen? grZnobT, rom mag<br />
damokidebulebiT gaavebuli, gaborotebuli<br />
bebrebi xarT, asakisda<br />
miuxedavad? an im pirvel samsaxurebs<br />
da xelfasebs rom ixsenebT<br />
rixiT da trampa-cumpiT, goCa<br />
mircxulavas Tqmis ar iyos, barem,<br />
imazec dawereT, proteqtciiT rom<br />
moxvdiT im pirvel samsaxurebSi da<br />
Tqvenze Wkviani daCagreT.<br />
ara, arc pirveli samsaxurisa da<br />
pirveli xelfasis gaxsenebaa rame<br />
mankiereba, roca talRa agordeba,<br />
Zalauneburad mogeZaleba es<br />
fiqrebi, gagaxsendeba is pirveli<br />
gasamrjeloc, Seni SromiT miRebuli<br />
da is gasamrjelo tkbilia, rac<br />
ar unda katorRul pirobebSi iyos<br />
mopovebuli, junglebSi naSovni<br />
alali lukmac gemrielia, magram<br />
meorea, ras upirispireb am Sens<br />
tkbil-mware mogonebebs? vis wisqvilze<br />
asxam wyals am yvelafriT?<br />
ise CawixleT es sawyali bavSvebi,<br />
sadme vinmeRa gabedavs xmis amoRebas<br />
sakuTar SromiT uflebebze?<br />
Tan imoZRvrebiT, sakuTari uflebebi<br />
unda icodeTo, misi dacvao.<br />
scades am bavSvebma da ra miiRes<br />
pasuxad? solidarobis nacvlad<br />
sruli isterika, rom, Turme, „freskoSi”<br />
SesaniSnavi, komfortuli<br />
momsaxurebaa, rom, Turme, „biblusSi”<br />
komfortuli momsaxurebaa.<br />
eg Tqveni komforti swored mag<br />
axalgazrdebis mxrebze rom dgas,<br />
Tu iciT? Tu kompaniis direqtorebi,<br />
an gazuluqebuli topmenejerebi<br />
gemsaxurebian, rodesac<br />
SedixarT? eg komfortuli momsaxureba<br />
rom mogwonT, mxolod Tqveni<br />
komforti gaRelvebT? im adamianebis<br />
diskomforti arafrad giRirT,<br />
vinc mag komforts uzrunvelyofs?<br />
Tqven, eg axalgazrdebi,<br />
ukiduresi materialuri gaWirvebis<br />
gamo rom mand muSaoben, marTla<br />
uvici gogo-biWebi xom ar<br />
ggoniaT? ikiTxeT mainc, sad swavloben<br />
im amoRamebuli TvalebiT,<br />
rom rogorme swavlis gadasaxadi<br />
gadaixadon, binis qira gadaixadon<br />
da 2 lukma Wamon? mxolod imitom,<br />
rom maTi mSoblebi TqvensaviT<br />
aTas kldeze ver gadaxtnen da ver<br />
uzrunvelyves da ver uzrunvelyofen<br />
maT srulfasovan cxovrebas?<br />
an mag bavSvebs rom sTxovT xelSekrulebebis<br />
wakiTxvas, erTi im<br />
damsaqmebelTa moTxovnebSic CaixedeT,<br />
ratom aweseben asakobriv<br />
zRvars da ratom iTxoven mxolod<br />
sasiamovno garegnobas miRebisas<br />
da ratom sTxoven mere maT kvalifikacias?<br />
ras fiqroben, rodesac<br />
18-19 wlis axalgazrdebs konsultantebad<br />
naTlaven? manamde, vidre<br />
TbilisSi wignis amdeni maRazia<br />
gaixsneboda, pekinze iyo da axlacaa<br />
wignis saxli. iq muSaobda da,<br />
vgoneb, dResac muSaobs konsultantad<br />
axalgazrda qali (da ara 18-<br />
ode wlis gogona), friad nakiTxi,<br />
ganaTlebuli, amomwuravad flobda,<br />
ra wignebs yidda; SeeZlo, mar-<br />
Tlac erCia wigni, dawyebuli<br />
Targmanis xarisxiT, damTavrebuli<br />
literaturis bolo tendenciebiT.<br />
igives SeZlebs studenti, iSviaTi<br />
gamonaklisis garda? an supermarketSi<br />
19 wlis gogos an biWs<br />
konsultants rom daarqmev,<br />
romelmac momxmarebels unda ur-<br />
Cios, flobdes informacias ama Tu<br />
im produqtze, ukacravad da,<br />
ranairad iqneba misi rCeva kvalificiuri?<br />
sasursaTo saqonelmcodnea?<br />
an gausinjavs ki is, rasac<br />
yidis, rom piris gemoTi mainc gir-<br />
Cios rame? dRemde yurebSi midgas<br />
erTi konsultanti gogonas naTqvami,<br />
_ rogor mogatyuoT, me arc<br />
erTi miWamia. Zvlebi damewva, es<br />
rom miTxra da Tqven an Zvlebi ar<br />
gaqvT, an guli? aseTi uZvlo da<br />
ugulo ra mamam gagakeTaT, ra<br />
dedam gSobaT? daxedeT fasebs, ra<br />
Rirs rigi dasaxelebis produqtebi,<br />
Tundac, Tevzi! saidan icodes<br />
250-larianma konsultantma, romeli<br />
Tevzi ukeTesia _ 100-lariani<br />
Tu 90-lariani?<br />
ra yvela bewvi da banjgvli amoiglijeT,<br />
amoiputeT, ra Tqves am<br />
bavSvebma? rogor Tu gabedes da 8-<br />
saaTiani samuSao dRe axsenes? Tavi<br />
rom mwvane kitrebad mogaqvT, iciT<br />
mainc, ris fasad miaRwia kacobriobam<br />
am 8-saaTian samuSao dRes? an<br />
ase gamgelebulebi rom icavT mag<br />
kompaniebsa da maTi dacviT yvela<br />
aseT msxvil da wvril kompanias,<br />
yvela damsaqmebels imaze mainc ar<br />
gifiqriaT, eg kompaniebi erTi xeliT<br />
rom mag bavSvebs amuSaveben,<br />
meoriT rom Cvens momxmareblebs<br />
yvlefen? aba, Tu yvlefa araa, ratom<br />
Rirs erTgan 80 TeTriT meti<br />
erTi da igive dasaxelebis, wonis<br />
karaqi, vidre meoregan? cxadia,<br />
mec metyviT, fass xom kiTxulob,<br />
Tu ar gawyobs, nu iyidio, nu Sexvalo...<br />
pasuxi, cxadia, mzad gaqvT<br />
da, jamSi, ra gamodis? Turme, es<br />
garemo, raSic cxovreba gviwevs,<br />
Zalianac mogwonT da gawyobT! da<br />
am nirvanaSi cxovrebas Cven gir-<br />
RvevT, disonansi Semogvaqvs.<br />
xmas aravin iRebs imaze, rom wignis<br />
maRaziaSi wignis qurdoba umsgavsobaa,<br />
unamusobaa, da xmas iRebT<br />
imaze, rodesac konsultantebi<br />
aprotesteben imas, rom maT am<br />
zaralis dafarva uwevT Tavisi<br />
xelfasidan. Turme, nu ityviT da<br />
kamerebi ayenia! erT-erTma yofilma<br />
konsultantma dawera, erT<br />
klients rom raRacas vuxsnidi, im<br />
dros meore iparavdao. ra qnas im<br />
konsultantma? ras amoicnoben im<br />
kameriT? _ vinc moipara imas, Tu<br />
visac mopares imas? an es SeniSvna<br />
arafers geubnebaT? „pirveli unda<br />
gqondeT erTi patara oTaxi mainc,<br />
sadac TanamSromeli dasvenebas<br />
SeZlebda da, elementarulad,<br />
yavis dalevas, radgan yvelas ar<br />
aqvs saSualeba, rom kafeSi dajdes<br />
da iq rame SeWamos, an dalios”.<br />
adamiani mTeli dRe rom samsaxur-<br />
Sia, da Sesvenebac ar aqvs, ra qnas?<br />
da romc gqondes Sesveneba, sad<br />
wavides gaWirvebuli saWmelad?<br />
quCaSi ilukmos? me samsaxuridan<br />
bevri aseTi axalgazrda minaxavs<br />
gamosuli, quCaSi rom Wams. Tqven<br />
lanCebiT, msuye sadilebiT maZRrebo,<br />
gifiqriaT am bavSvebze? gasaZlisi<br />
pirobaa eg? maRazias maRaziaze<br />
rom xsni, ra gaxda im maRaziaSi<br />
5 kv.m.-iani oTaxis mowyoba,<br />
rom adamianma suli moiTqvas? magram<br />
ara, Tqven gagaxsendebaT, rom,<br />
Tavis droze, prozeqturebSi gamomcxvar,<br />
mariliani makaroniT gakeTebul<br />
xaWapurs WamdiT da am<br />
bavSvebis naTqvami mwyobridan gamogiyvanT!<br />
Tqven isic gagakvirvebT,<br />
roca es xalxi imas aprotestebs,<br />
mTeli dRe akrZaluli rom<br />
aqvT mobiluri telefoniT sargebloba.<br />
im Savbnel 90-ianebSi xom<br />
mobiluric ar iyo da axla ratom<br />
unda hqondes vinmes ufleba, telefoniT<br />
daukavSirdes saxlSi<br />
Svils, meuRles?.. iqneb, vinme ukvdeba,<br />
iqneb, xanZaria mis saxlSi?<br />
mere ra, samuSaodan rom miva, is<br />
damwvar-dabuguli saxli iq ar<br />
daxvdeba, an mkvdari Svili?<br />
da ra miviReT jamSi? ramdenad<br />
normalurad migaCniaT is, rom damqiravebeli<br />
oficialur gancxadebaSi<br />
ukmayofilo TanamSromlebs<br />
Wipilias coliviT lanZRavs? uwodebs<br />
maT uniaTos, usaqmurs, muqTaxoras,<br />
luzerebs da iqve muqarasac<br />
afens: „boikotis ayola<br />
niSnavs Tqveni jibeebis, safuleebisa<br />
da Semosavlis boikots”; rom,<br />
Turme, vinc ki kiTxvas svams, bin-<br />
Zurxelebiania da „freskos” ar<br />
unda Seexos. ra ginda, rom Tqva?!<br />
_ supermarketi ki ara, wmida samsxverplo,<br />
sakurTxeveli yofila...<br />
gekiTxebiT, ras niSnavs maTi<br />
damfuZneblis gancxadeba: „dorblebi<br />
moiwmindeT, „peroebi” gamoi-<br />
ReT, haeri Rrmad CaisunTqeT da...<br />
gpatiobT”. ra hgonia am xalxs Tavi,<br />
supermarketis damfuZnebeli, Tu<br />
wminda kultis mowyale qurumi?<br />
es gindodaT da es gawyobT,<br />
xom? im Tqveni pirveli xelfasis<br />
mzema...<br />
13
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
sozar subaris<br />
da iqidan produqtebiT datvir-<br />
igi mestiis raionSi daibada. ar-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
Tuli ori axalgazrda gogona<br />
is istorikosi, Teologi, Jurnal-<br />
gadmovida. swored maT vkiTxe:<br />
isti, saqarTvelos saxalxo damcv-<br />
_ ukacravad, es cincaZis #49<br />
eli 2004-2009 ww.-ebSi, sxvadasxva dros moRvaweobda saqarTve-<br />
aris?<br />
los erovnul muzeumSi, saqarTvelos eklesiaSi diakvnad, saja-<br />
_ diax.<br />
ro skolis direqtorad, sxvadasxva Jurnal-gazeTis korespon-<br />
_ aq cxovrobs sozar subari?<br />
dentad da redaqtorad. hyavs meuRle da sami Svili.<br />
_ ki, modi, kars gagiReb.<br />
_ kargi, mogexmarebi, _ veubnebi<br />
da misi tvirTisken viwev.<br />
dRemde is xalxs axsovs, rogorc<br />
saxalxo damcveli. yvelas erad wavedi.<br />
aris komfortis zonis aRsaw-<br />
_ ara, araa saWiro, _ ar miSvebs.<br />
gvaxsovs, rom igi aqtiurad akritikebda<br />
saqarTvelos xelisu-<br />
rom gascdebiT, gza unda gada-<br />
pekinis quCaze, bukias baRs<br />
mec davnebdi da sadarbazos<br />
flebas da, maT Soris, imJamindel<br />
prezident saakaSvils adamicxniv<br />
pirvelsave Sesaxvevamde _<br />
kveToT da pirdapir iaroT mar-<br />
kari gaaRes. madloba gadavuxade<br />
da isini liftiT avidnen, me ki<br />
anis uflebebis, sasamarTlos es cincaZis quCaa (yofili saburkibiT<br />
daviwye sul asvla. Tumca<br />
damoukideblobisa da mediis Tavisuflebis<br />
SezRudvis gamo. sasjelaRsrulebis ministri cx-<br />
Talos), adgili, sadac Cveni<br />
manamde unda gamerkvia, rogori<br />
mezobeli gaxldaT xsenebuli<br />
2012 wlidan aris partia „qar- ovrobs da sadac misi komfortis<br />
statiis „gmiri” da rogori damokidebuleba<br />
hqondaT mezoblebs<br />
Tuli ocneba _ demokratiuli zona mdebareobs.<br />
saqarTvelos” wevri. amave wlis es quCa arc ise moklea da kentebi<br />
_ marjvniv, luwebi ki marcx-<br />
mis mimarT.<br />
oqtombridan ki sasjelaRsrulebis<br />
ministrad iniSneba, axla ki niv _ principiTaa ganlagebuli<br />
pirvelsave sarTulze, rogorc<br />
ki sadarbazoSi Sevedi, marcxena<br />
mxares ufro dabla Ca-<br />
devnilTa da gansaxlebis ministria.<br />
midixarT...). am quCaze ori didi<br />
(es maSin, roca sozaris saxlisken<br />
mavali kibeebi, gisosis kari, dabla<br />
oTaxi da anTebuli Suqi Se-<br />
dRes swored mis „komfortis msxvili savaWro obieqtia, romelic,<br />
adgilmdebareobidan da<br />
zonaze” mogiyvebiT.<br />
vniSne, saidanac remontis xmauri<br />
raime gansakuTrebuli da gamorCeuli<br />
xdeba Tu ara saburTamaod<br />
kargadac muSaobs. brende-<br />
prestiJidan gamomdinare, sak-<br />
gamodioda. raRac axals xsnian, _<br />
vifiqre da pirvel sarTulze gadavinacvle.<br />
zari davreke jer<br />
loze, amjerad, cincaZis quCaze, bi rom ar davasaxelo, vityvi,<br />
ar vici, magram is ki vici, rom aq rom erTi maTganis dominanti feri<br />
wiTeli, meorisa ki _ narinj-<br />
pirvel, marjvena kuTxis binis karze,<br />
Tumca uSedegod, aseve ga-<br />
Cveni dRevandeli „gmiris” komfortis<br />
zona mdebareobs da misi isferia.<br />
grZelda Semdeg or karze amave<br />
mignebac imdenad martivi aRmoCnda,<br />
ramdenadac xsenebuli en da TanmimdevrobiT gaviare<br />
gavuyevi gzas cincaZis quCisk-<br />
sarTulze, sadac karSi Camagrebuli<br />
komunalurebis qviTrebi<br />
teritoriis, met-naklebad, ukve yvela is kenti nomeri, romelic<br />
imas mafiqrebinebda, rom am saxlSi<br />
jer aravin iyo.<br />
Seswavlili mdgomareoba damexmara<br />
daniSnulebis punqtamde uZRoda win. aq ki cota „gaviWe-<br />
daniSnulebis nomramde misvlas<br />
Semdeg sarTulze gadavinacvle,<br />
sadac pirvel or karSi isev<br />
daubrkoleblad misvlaSi. de”, #47 vipove, Tumca im korpusis<br />
Sesasvleli, romelic main-<br />
Tovlian amindSi sozar sub-<br />
qviTrebs gadavawydi da kari aqac<br />
ar gamiRes. axla mesame did rkinis<br />
muqbordo kars gadavawydi.<br />
davakakune da Signidan xma momesma:<br />
_ vin aris?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var, oriode<br />
kiTxva meqneba, Tu SeiZleba.<br />
teresebda _ vera.<br />
TiTqmis yvelgan. uceb SevniSne, kari gaiRo.<br />
cincaZis quCaze, am 12-sarTulian<br />
korpusSi (daniSnulebis liRac sarTulidan, qalma namcemomxeda,<br />
romelic ise miyurebda,<br />
rom gverdiTa korpusidan, rome-<br />
Suaxnis SavTmianma qalma ga-<br />
adgili), Sesasvlelad patara cebi tilos naWriT ezoSi gadmoferTxa.<br />
ra Tqma unda, am erTavi,<br />
roca Jurnalistoba avirCie<br />
megona, udidesi Secdoma davuS-<br />
TaRi unda gaiaroT, sadac Slagbaumia<br />
damagrebuli da adgilze derT xelCasaWid suliers qvemodan<br />
Zaxili ar davuwye da uke-<br />
_ gazeT „qronika+”-dan var.<br />
TaRis gamovlis Semdeg xvdebiT Tesis molodinSi TaRisken davi-<br />
statias vamzadeb sozar subaris<br />
ezoSi, sadac ramdenime korpusi Zari, romelTanac taqsi gaCerda<br />
komfortis zonaze. Tqveni me-<br />
dgas da SuaSi saTamaSo moednisa<br />
zobelia, xom?<br />
da manqanebis dasayenebeli adg-<br />
profesiad-meTqi.<br />
ramdenime manqana dauyenebiaT. am<br />
_ ki.<br />
ilic aris.<br />
_ icnobT? rogori mezobe-<br />
TaRSi Sesvlisas pirdapir mw-<br />
lia?<br />
vane fanjrebian korpuss uyurebT,<br />
romelic daniSnulebis adg-<br />
_ aranairi Sexeba ar maqvs. ar<br />
vici.<br />
ili sulac ar aris. Cven swored<br />
_ gmadlobT, _ wamovedi.<br />
im korpussa da sadarbazoSi mivdivarT,<br />
romelsac aqamde ram-<br />
axla Semdeg sarTulze davreke<br />
zari. aqac samive binas TiTqmis<br />
erTnairi kari hqonda. bolos<br />
denjerme naxsenebi TaRi ekuTvnis.<br />
mokled, uxvevT marjvniv da<br />
gamimarTla da marcxena, ukidures<br />
kuTxeSi mdebare binis kari<br />
xvdebiT sadarbazosTan, romelsac<br />
kodi icavs, Tumca es raRac<br />
axalgazrda mamakacma gamiRo:<br />
axali sistemaa, aqamde<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var,<br />
arc erT Cems kom-<br />
mainteresebs, sozar subars<br />
fortis zonis ob-<br />
Tu icnobT?<br />
ieqtTan ar Semini-<br />
_ ki, ki.<br />
Snavs. kari Cveu-<br />
_ Tqveni mezobelebrivia,<br />
_ nac-<br />
lia, xom?<br />
risferi da rkinis.<br />
_ ki, maRla cxovrobs,<br />
meeqvseze.<br />
vinaidan<br />
_ xSirad gxvde-<br />
Tovs da yinbaT?<br />
rogori meavs,<br />
ezoSi ar-<br />
zobelia?<br />
avinaa, mxolod<br />
manqa-<br />
sozar subari<br />
lia, vxedav xol-<br />
_ kargi mezobenebi<br />
dgas<br />
me, gasvlisas di-<br />
14<br />
14 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
komfortis zona<br />
laobiT, Torem ise xSirad _ ara.<br />
yvelaferi wesrigSia.<br />
_ gesalmebaT xolme? rogo-<br />
ria urTierTobaSi?<br />
_ roca vxedavT, aucileblad<br />
kargi gamarjoba da sakmaod<br />
Tbili damokidebuleba aqvs.<br />
_ gmadlobT.<br />
_ arafris.<br />
axla Semdeg sarTulze avedi,<br />
pirvelsave karTan davreke zari:<br />
_ romeli xar?<br />
_ Jurnalisti var. oriode<br />
kiTxva maqvs, Tu SeiZleba.<br />
axalgazrda qalbatonma kari<br />
gamiRo, kars ukan ki ori Svili<br />
idga, romlebic 14-15-wlisani<br />
iqnebodnen.<br />
_ gismenT.<br />
_ mainteresebs, rogori mezobelia<br />
sozari? rogori damok-<br />
idebuleba aqvs TqvenTan?<br />
_ xalisiani, sul salmiania da<br />
Zalian dadebiTi.<br />
_ dilaobiT xedavT xolme?<br />
_ ZiriTadad, ki.<br />
_ gmadlobT.<br />
_ arafris.<br />
Semdeg sarTulze uSedegod<br />
vrekavdi zars, Tan qvemodan im<br />
instrumentebis xma ismoda, oTaxs<br />
rom akeTebdnen weRan.<br />
kidev erTi kari gaiRo da Zalian<br />
gamixarda. iqidan axalgazrda,<br />
Savgvremani qalbatoni gamovida.<br />
igive kiTxvaze ki mipasuxa:<br />
_ Zalian iSviaTad vxedav, momentebSi<br />
xolme.<br />
axla gverdiT binisken gadavedi,<br />
sadac karebidanve, mikakunebis<br />
mere mkiTxes:<br />
_ vin aris?<br />
_ Jurnalisti...<br />
amis Semdeg siCume Camowva da<br />
aravis kiTxvaze da Zaxilzec ki<br />
ar upasuxia, karis gaRebaze rom<br />
araferi vTqvaT.<br />
ase gagrZelda me-6 sarTulamde,<br />
sadac, rogorc ki avedi, patara<br />
kamera SevniSne, romelic am<br />
sarTulze mdebare sami binis<br />
karis SuaSi, maRla eyena ise, rom<br />
igi Tavisuflad aCvenebda kibee-<br />
bze amsvlel-Camomsvlelebs. aq<br />
ramdenime wams Sevyovndi, rom<br />
karisTvis foto gadameRo, gadavuRe<br />
kidevac da Semdeg sarTulze<br />
gadavinacvle.<br />
aq karebis ganlageba SedarebiT<br />
sxvanairia, radgan kibidan pirdapir<br />
derefanSi adixarT, romlis<br />
erT, marcxena mxares derefani<br />
gadis, mis boloSi ki ori axali,<br />
wiTeli karia, marjvena mxares<br />
isev Cveulebrivi ganlagebiT<br />
TeTri Zveli kari, SuaSic,<br />
aseve, TeTri kari dagxvdebaT.<br />
pirvelad derefnisken wavedi,<br />
gaviare da mis boloSi mdebare<br />
karze davreke. ramdeme cdis Semdeg<br />
Suaxnis mamakacma gamomxeda:<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
gazeT „qronika+”-dan, sozar su-<br />
baris komfortis zonaze vwer,<br />
oriode kiTxva meqneba, Tu Sei-<br />
Zleba.<br />
_ ki batono, gismenT.<br />
_ mainteresebs TqvenTan rog-<br />
oria, rogorc mezobeli?<br />
_ aq aRar vcxovrob, mdgmuri<br />
myavs, magram ise, liftSi rom Semxvedria,<br />
gamarjobas ver daaswreb.<br />
meti araferi vici. Zalian<br />
salmiani adamiania, jer kidev,<br />
cixeebis ambebze rom muSaobda,<br />
iqidan vici.<br />
_ xedavdiT xolme?<br />
_ ki, manamde liftSi an ezoSi<br />
movkravdi xolme Tvals, magram<br />
axla am korpusSi aRar var da ar<br />
minaxavs.<br />
_ gmadlobT. aq, Tqven gver-<br />
diT binaSi cxovrobs vinme?<br />
_ ara, mxolod pirdapir karSi<br />
cxovroben...<br />
...win, karisken wavedi, aqac<br />
davreke, Tumca „arsaidan xma,<br />
arsiT Zaxili”, amitom iqiTken<br />
movbrundi, saidanac xmauri Semomesma,<br />
es is kari iyo, romelsac<br />
kibis avlisas pirdapir SeefeTebodiT<br />
da sakmaod xmamaRali<br />
xmauri gamodioda.<br />
zari davreke da kari maSinve<br />
gamiRes. aq erTma axalgazrda, aSkarad<br />
araqarTveli garegnobisa<br />
da mis ukan mdgomma aseve araqar-<br />
Tvelma, muqkanianma, SedarebiT<br />
maRalma biWebma garkvirvebiT<br />
damiwyes yureba. situaciis gansamuxtad<br />
swrafad daviwye saubari:<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var,<br />
oriode kiTxva meqneba sozar<br />
subarze, Tu SeiZleba.<br />
_ moica, moica, rusulad an<br />
inglisurad amixseni, _ rusulad<br />
miTxra im SedarebiT dabalma bi-<br />
Wma, romelsac karis saxeluri<br />
eWira.<br />
_ sozar subars Tu icnobT?<br />
Tqveni mezobelia qveviT.<br />
amis Tqma iyo da orivem erTmaneTs<br />
Sexeda, imis dasturad, rom<br />
warmodgenac ki ar hqondaT,<br />
visze vsaubrobdi.<br />
_ ara, ar vicnobT, _ miTxres<br />
gaocebulebma, ar viciT, vinaa.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
etyoboda, studentebi iyvnen,<br />
romlebic saqarTveloSi saswavleblad<br />
Camovidnen.<br />
im sarTuls gavcildi, zeviT<br />
avedi, sadac araferi gaxldaT<br />
kedlis garda da mis zemoT ukve<br />
saxuravi iyo.<br />
qveviT daveSvi, yvela sarTuls<br />
fexiT Camovuare, sadac kari<br />
gamiRes, an ar gamiRes.<br />
meeqvse sarTulic Camoviare<br />
da isev „arsaidan xma...” karSi _<br />
isev komunalurebis qviTrebi.<br />
pirvel sarTulze sardafidan<br />
isev remontis xma amodioda, Suqic<br />
enTo da adamianebis saubaric<br />
ismoda. sardafSi Camaval kibeebze<br />
mtversa da dayril samSeneblo<br />
masalebs gadavuare da iseTi<br />
xmiT viyvire, _ gamomxedeT vinmemeTqi!<br />
_ rom burRis xmac ki gadavfare.<br />
axalgazrda qali gamovida,<br />
TeTri saxiT da Savi TmiT. amasac<br />
vkiTxe, sozar subars Tu icnobT,<br />
zemoTa mezobelia-meTqi:<br />
_ vaime, aq pirvelad Tu meored<br />
var, raRac ixsneba da magaze<br />
movediTo. aq cxovrobs?<br />
_ ki, zemo sarTulze.<br />
_ ui, ar vicodi. bodiSi.<br />
_ ara, ras ambobT-meTqi, _ da<br />
wamovedi.<br />
mesmoda, SigniT hkiTxes, vin<br />
iyo da ra undodao? aman upasuxa,<br />
Jurnalisti iyo da sozar subarze<br />
ainteresebda, rogori mezobeliao.<br />
_ eg vin ariso? _ hki-<br />
Txes, albaT, iqidan, radgan mxolod<br />
am qalbatonis xma mesmoda,<br />
romelmac Tqva, _ saxalxo damcveli<br />
rom iyo Cvenio. _ mere wamovedi.<br />
kari iseve ucnaurad iReboda,<br />
rogori ucnauri struqturac<br />
hqonda.<br />
gareT Sebindebuliyo da quCa-<br />
Si lampionebi anaTebda, romelic<br />
ukve naklebad maoceben. isev Tovda<br />
da yinavda.<br />
iqurobas gavcildi, rac ramdenime<br />
mWidrod moyenebuli manqanebidan<br />
Tavis daRwevis fasad<br />
damijda. korpuss foto gadavu-<br />
Re da TaRidan gamovedi. gza gadavWeri,<br />
rom meore mxridan SenobisTvis<br />
ukeT gadameRo. asec<br />
moviqeci. maS, ase! _ devnilTa da<br />
gansaxlebis ministris komfortis<br />
zona aris saburTalo, cincaZis<br />
quCa, sadac erTmaneTis<br />
miyolebiT ganlagebulia didi<br />
maRaziebi, silamazis salonebi<br />
da kafe-barebi. namdvilad mosaxerxebeli<br />
da komfortuli<br />
adgilia sacxovreblad.<br />
15
16<br />
rezo SatakiSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`trasaze<br />
gaWedili<br />
magnoliasaviT<br />
migvaTrevs<br />
rusi oligarqi<br />
imperiis ukana<br />
ezoSi<br />
Casargavad~<br />
qveyanaSi da „nacionalur<br />
moZraobaSi” mimdinare procesebze<br />
„qronika+” esaubreba „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” aqtiur mxar-<br />
damWersa da dRes ukve partiis<br />
politsabWos wevrs, qalbaton<br />
rusudan cirekiZes:<br />
_ bolo periodSi „naciona-<br />
lurma moZraobam” urTulesi<br />
procesebi gamoiara. Tqven, rogorc<br />
mxardamWeri, aqtiurad iyav-<br />
iT CarTuli procesebSi. rodis<br />
mixvdiT, rom raRac ise ar xde-<br />
boda partiaSi, rogorc saWiro<br />
iyo?<br />
_ 2011 wlamde politikur procesebSi<br />
CarTuli ar vyofilvar.<br />
mTeli es periodi, roca „nacmoZraoba”<br />
xelisuflebaSi iyo, mSvidad<br />
vcxovrobdi, vicodi, rom<br />
Cemi samSoblo mtrisgan daculi<br />
iyo, damoukideblobas ar davkargavdiT<br />
da Tu qveynis damoukideblobas<br />
safrTxe ar daemqureboda,<br />
es qveyana ganviTardeboda. iseT<br />
swraf ganviTarebas, rac maSin xdeboda,<br />
aRfrTovanebis meti araferi<br />
ar SeiZleboda gamoewvia CemSi. magram<br />
es aRfrTovaneba, maSinac ki,<br />
ZiriTadad, dakavSirebuli iyo mxolod<br />
erT adamianTan, maSinve vxedavdi,<br />
rom am yvelafris Zravi iyo<br />
erTi adamiani. saboloo jamSi,<br />
gamoCnda kidec es. rodesac mixeil<br />
saakaSvili procesebidan ZaldatanebiT<br />
Caxsnes, es partiasac daetyo.<br />
2012 wels vinmes rom ekiTxa,<br />
rogori iqneboda „nacmoZraoba”,<br />
aseTi mZlavri partia, opoziciaSi<br />
gadasvlis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
imas verafriT warmovidgendi,<br />
rac 2012 wlis Semdeg vnaxeT. es<br />
iyo aCrdili imisa, rac manamde iyo.<br />
Tumca mec iseve, rogorc yvela, im<br />
9 wlis manZilze, Secdomebsac vxedavdi,<br />
rac Cems axloblebsac Seexo.<br />
man ver SeZlo damoukidebeli<br />
sasamarTlo sistemis Seqmna. vxedavdi<br />
sxva ramesac, vxedavdi Casafrebul,<br />
gaborotebul, usindiso<br />
adamianebs, romlebic nebismier waforxilebas<br />
tragediad da politikuri<br />
spekulaciis iaraRad aqcevdnen<br />
da me da CemisTanebs saSualebas<br />
ar gvaZlevdnen, gagveprotestebina<br />
is, rac namdvilad gasaprotestebeli<br />
iyo da xelisuflebisTvis<br />
dagvenaxvebina Tavisi Secdomebi,<br />
magram moxda is, rac moxda,<br />
_ 2012 wels xelisufleba rusma<br />
oligarqma Caigdo xelSi. rogorc<br />
ki movismine ivaniSvilis pirvelive<br />
interviu 2011 wels, maSinve<br />
gavifiqre, daviRupeT-meTqi<br />
da im dRidan var „nacmoZraobis”<br />
aqtiuri mxardamWeri. 2012 wels<br />
„nacmos” arCevnebi ar waugia, „nacmom”<br />
waago mravalwliani sainformacio<br />
omi rusul specsamsaxurebTan.<br />
_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />
_ wlebis manZilze iqmneboda<br />
miTebi, adamianebs mizanmimarTulad<br />
uqmnidnen ganwyobas, rom „nacmo”<br />
moZaladea. cxadia, SeuZlebelia,<br />
rom es regioni rusuli specsamsaxurebis<br />
aqtiuri yuradRebisa<br />
da Carevis gareSe darCeniliyo.<br />
ratomRac, yovelTvis megona, rom<br />
am mimarTulebiTac muSaobdnen<br />
Cveni specsamsaxurebi, magram aRmoCnda,<br />
rom sainformacio omi wavageT<br />
da amis gamo axla ukve SeiZleba,<br />
qveyanac wavagoT. „nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” hqonda poza, dae ilaparakon,<br />
dae, iWoraon. aseTi ganwyoba<br />
iyo 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 wleb-<br />
Si. xeli ar SeuSales maSindel<br />
opozicias, romelic zogi uneblie<br />
Semsrulebeli iyo specsamsaxurebis<br />
scenaris, zogi am scenarSi ijda,<br />
roli hqonda mikuTvnebuli da<br />
mSvenivrad icoda, rasac akeTebda,<br />
am sainformacio oms ar SeuSales<br />
xeli da adamianebs ganwyoba Seuqmnes,<br />
rom „nacmo” moZaladea. cixis<br />
kadrebi am omis mxolod garkveulwilad<br />
gadamwyveti, magram<br />
erT-erTi epizodi iyo. gaxsovT,<br />
albaT, warwera „5" saknebze, cixis<br />
kadrebSi. Tavidan cinizmad miviCnie,<br />
magram Semdeg mivxvdi, ra asociaciur<br />
jaWvsac qmnidnen sainformacio<br />
stresisgan mowyvladi<br />
adamianebis cnobierebaSi _<br />
5=nacmos=Zaladobas...<br />
_ TqviT, „nacmom” xeli ar Se-<br />
uSala am miTebis Seqmnaso, arc<br />
mere gaukeTebia rame mag miTebis<br />
dasangrevad. Cven iqiT, sazoga-<br />
doebas vadanaSaulebT, rom man<br />
daijera organoebiT vaWroba,<br />
cocxiT gaupatiureba. marTlac<br />
saRi goneba da mcireodeni ga-<br />
naTlebaa saWiro imisTvis, icode,<br />
rom ase ar xdeba organoebis<br />
transplantacia, rom cocxi ase<br />
ar Sedis ukana tanSi da Tu Sedis,<br />
adamiani ver isaubrebs da a. S.,<br />
magram faqtia isic, rom sazoga-<br />
doebis didi nawili moklebulia<br />
am codnasac da mixvedrilobasac,<br />
magram ra gaakeTa „nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam” an imTaviTve, an Sem-<br />
deg mTeli 4 wlis manZilze? may-<br />
urebels aCvena, Tundac, naxevar-<br />
saaTiani samecniero-popularuli<br />
filmi organoebis transplanta-<br />
ciaze, rom am xalxs enaxa, rogor<br />
xdeba organoebis gadanergva? an<br />
gamoiyvana vinme proqtologi da<br />
hkiTxa, SeiZleba Tu ara, rom<br />
cocxiT gaupatiurebulma adami-<br />
anma ilaparakos? axla, ar miT-<br />
xraT, rom teleresursebi ar hqo-<br />
ndaT...<br />
_ Tqven CemTvis yvelaze mtkivneul<br />
Temas miadeqiT. 2012 wlidan<br />
es iyo Cemi mTavari pretenzia maT-<br />
Tan. miTebis dasangrevad arafers<br />
akeTebdnen. marTali giTxraT, cixis<br />
kadrebze Tavidan iseTi isterika<br />
iyo, absoluturad warmoudgeneli<br />
gaxldaT adamianebisTvis<br />
simarTlis axsna. amitom arc gamikvirvebia,<br />
„nacmoZraoba” rom dumda.<br />
Semdeg amas dabneulobas vabralebdi,<br />
aTas mizezs veZebdi maTi<br />
pasiurobis asaxsnelad, magram<br />
dro gadioda da vxedavdi, rom<br />
partia arafers akeTebda. „nacmo”<br />
am oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi am procesebis<br />
pasiuri monawile iyo, „efesbes”<br />
SemoTavazebul TamaSSi ma-<br />
Tive wesebiT TamaSobda da yru<br />
Tavdacvis reJimSi spontanurad<br />
iqnevda xel-fexs. amaze saubari axla<br />
ar dagviwyia, mTeli es wlebi,<br />
me da Cemi megobrebi, am Temaze velaparakebodiT<br />
liderebs, dausruleblad<br />
vusvamdiT erTsa da<br />
imave kiTxvas, ratom ar scemT pasuxi<br />
binZur ciliswamebebs, ratom<br />
ar muSaobT imaze, rom es miTebi<br />
daingres, rom moxdes „nacmos” dedemonizacia!<br />
vuxsnidiT, rom araferi<br />
gamovidoda, Tu xalxs ar movuxsnidiT<br />
am fiqsirebul negatiur<br />
ganwyobas, rom „nacmo” moZaladea.<br />
_ erTi, rom arafers akeTebd-<br />
nen am miTebis dasangrevad, magram<br />
meorea, romc ecadaT, SeZlebdnen<br />
ase fesvgadgmuli miTebis dangre-<br />
vas?<br />
_ diax! mogexsenebaT, iyo erTerTi<br />
aseTi miTi, rom agvistos<br />
omis dros „nacionalebi”wiTel<br />
xidze garbodnen. rodesac am<br />
Temaze Tbilisis forumze saubari<br />
wamoiwyes, Cven, iuzerebma, ar<br />
davizareT da saTanado dokumenturi<br />
masala amoviReT omis dReeb-<br />
Si gamarTul saparlamento ganxilvidan,<br />
aseve, erT-erT media sa-<br />
SualebaSi gasajaroebuli sazRvris<br />
dacvis departamentis monacemebi,<br />
es yvelaferi qronologiurad<br />
davalageT da Cvens oponentebs<br />
detalurad CamovuwereT,<br />
romeli Tanamdebobis piri, romel<br />
ricxvSi, romel saaTze gavida saz-<br />
Rvarze da Semovida. es imdenad<br />
TvalsaCino iyo, rom saerTod Sewyda<br />
iq am Temaze laparaki. Semdeg<br />
es masalebi goga xaCiZes gadavugzavne.<br />
goga xaCiZem Tavadac moikvlia<br />
dokumentebi da daamata. Semdeg<br />
eTerSi ijda, beselia hyavda<br />
oponenti, beseliac gaaCuma da es<br />
Temac mokvda. e. i. SeiZleboda, ara,<br />
am miTis dangreva? magram... goga<br />
xaCiZis epizodi iyo meinstrimidan<br />
amovardnili, meinstrimi iyo is,<br />
rom amaze pasuxi ar unda gaecaT.<br />
me, magaliTad, mTeli es wlebi davitanje<br />
im kiTxvaze pasuxis uqonlobiT,<br />
rom ase Wkvian xalxs ratom<br />
ar esmis es elementaruli?<br />
iseTi SegrZneba mqonda, rom<br />
kedels vayridi cercvs.<br />
_ bolo dros eWvi gaCnda, rom<br />
es demonizacia-miTologizacia,<br />
igive baCo axalaiasa da mis „ba-<br />
lkonze” dabmuli mglebis, aseve<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis, garkveul-<br />
wilad, swored mag jgufisgan iyo<br />
orkestrirebuli, vinc Tavze nac-<br />
ars iyrida. am gadasaxedidan xom<br />
ar fiqrobT, rom es demonizacia<br />
marTlac maTgan iyo orkestrirebuli<br />
da amitomac ar cdilobd-<br />
nen am miTebis ngrevas?<br />
_ baCo axalaia marTlac demonis<br />
rangSi iyo ayvanili, masze yvelaze<br />
meti miTi Seiqmna. 14 braldebidan<br />
13 gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni<br />
ivaniSvilis sasamarTloSi da me-<br />
ToTxmeteSi mowmed vladimer<br />
bedukaZe! baCom Tavad daamsxvria<br />
mis Sesaxeb arsebuli binZuri miTi<br />
da braldebebi gaabaTila. Tvalsa<br />
da xels Sua ingreoda miTi baCo<br />
axalaiaze, magram amaze yvela dumda<br />
ani nadareiSvilis garda, romlis<br />
xma sakmarisi ar iyo imisTvis,<br />
rom es qveynisTvis gasagebi gamxdariyo.<br />
_ Tumca, bolos mainc, yvelam<br />
yvelaferi gaigo.<br />
_ diax, droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />
gaiges, magram gaiges „nacionaluri<br />
moZarobis” dauxmareblad, anu „nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” araferi<br />
gaukeTebia imisTvis, rom es miTi<br />
dangreuliyo. me Tavidanve miCndeboda<br />
kiTxva, miTi ingreva da ratom<br />
ar eweva „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” amis popularizacias?<br />
Tundac ratom ar iyenebdnen imisTvis,<br />
rom xalxisTvis eCvenebinaT,<br />
ai, esec Tqveni mTavari demoni,<br />
xom xedavT, yvelaferi tyuili<br />
da SeTiTxnili yofila? am adamianebs<br />
es xom ganawyobda, sxva miTebisTvisac<br />
eWviT SeexedaT? rac Seexeba<br />
mixeil saakaSvils, saakaSvili<br />
iyo lideri da rogorc pozitivi,<br />
aRmSenebloba, ise mTeli negativi,<br />
rac enm-s winaaRdeg dagrovda,<br />
specsamsaxurebis SeTiTxnili, Tu<br />
obieqturad arsebuli Secdomebis<br />
gamo, yvelaferi aiweba mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma. „nacmoZraobis” interesebSi<br />
unda yofiliyo, rom mixeil<br />
saakaSvilis irgvliv arsebuli mi-<br />
Tologia gaeqarwylebina. es ar<br />
moxda, piriqiT... am Temaze vfiqrobdi<br />
da mudmivad am Temaze<br />
vlaparakobdi 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015<br />
wlebSi, dausruleblad vsvamdi SekiTxvebs,<br />
pasuxs ver viRebdi,<br />
kedels velaparakebodi... megobrebi<br />
damcinodnen, cercvi Tu Semogelia,<br />
SemogaSvelebTo. mikvirda,<br />
rogor ver xvdebodnen, rom am<br />
miTebis dangrevisa da „nacmos” reabilitaciis<br />
gareSe araferi gamovidoda.<br />
Zalian kargad maxsovs seriozuli<br />
kamaTi erT-erT lider-<br />
Tan. gveubneboda, _ eseni mainc<br />
gafarCakdebian, ekonomikuri problemebi<br />
wamova win da am ekonomikuri<br />
problemebis gamo SeiZuleben<br />
„qocebs”, biZinas. veubnebodiT,<br />
rom diax, asea, magram ekonomikur<br />
problemebze aseTi aqcentireba da<br />
amaze Zvirfasi satelevizio drois<br />
xarjva ar iyo saWiro, rom xalxi<br />
maT gareSec, Tavadac mSvenivrad<br />
xvdeba, rogor angrevs ekonomikas<br />
qocxelisufleba, laris kursi ra<br />
dReSicaa, yoveldRe xedavs savaluto<br />
jixuris abraze, grZnobs sakuTar<br />
jibeze, am Temebs media aSuqebs.<br />
xalxi am xelisuflebis namdvil<br />
saxes xedavs. quCaSi rom adamiani<br />
gaaCero, „nacmoZraobis” nebismier<br />
liderze ukeTesad CamogiTvlis<br />
yvela im danaSaulsa da ubedurebas,<br />
rac ivaniSvilma damarTa<br />
qveyanas, magram iqve mogibrundeba<br />
da getyvis, rom „nacionalebi”<br />
mainc ar unda, rom „nacionalebi”<br />
mainc ver mobrundebian. ar SeiZleba,<br />
damians dausruleblad is uCi-<br />
Cino, rom uCemod, ai, ra gaWirvebaSi<br />
xar.<br />
_ mogitraildeba da getyvis,<br />
ki miWirs, magram Sen mainc ar min-<br />
dixaro.<br />
_ ambobdnen kidec da mudmivad<br />
vawydebodiT amas. ar unda imitom,<br />
rom maT cnobierSi, qvecnobierSi<br />
Camjdaria specsamsaxurebis mier<br />
wlebis manZilze namuSevari, rom<br />
nacmoZraoba aris „demonebis”,<br />
sisxlismsmelebis banda. vuxsnidiT,<br />
rom Tu „nacmos” reabilitacia<br />
ar moxdeboda, „ocnebis” mxardam-<br />
WerTa raodenobis Semcireba ar<br />
konvertirdeboda „nacmos” mxardamWerTa<br />
zrdad, rom Tu xangr-<br />
Zlivi zemoqmedebiT Seqmnili fiqsirebuli<br />
negatiuri ganwyoba ar<br />
daingreoda, Tu xalxi ar dainaxvda<br />
da ar daijerebda, rom is, rac<br />
maT wlebis ganmavlobaSi nacmoze<br />
esmodaT miTebi da legendebi iyo,<br />
arc mousmendnen maT. mikvirda, es<br />
Wkiani xalxi rogor ver xvdeboda<br />
amas, maSin mimaCda, rom es iyo Secdoma,<br />
dRes ukve, am gadasaxedidan<br />
vxvdebi, rom es iyo mizandasaxuli<br />
politika. axla me Cemi Tavisac<br />
mikvirs, rogor vijerebdi, rom<br />
aseTi Wkviani adamianebi, eseTi becebi<br />
iyvnen? mokled, arafers<br />
akeTebdnen miTebis dasangrevad,<br />
saerTod gaurbodnen am Temas. Semdeg<br />
es Seicvala uaresiT - Tavze<br />
nacris dayris sayovelTao kampaniiT,<br />
romelic daiwyes da aRar<br />
daamTavres. yvelaferze bodiSebs<br />
ixdidnen! daxurul jgufSic vwerdiT,<br />
piradadac veubnebodiT, aRar<br />
gamogeliaT „nacari”? gasagebia<br />
16 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
moilaparakes, modi, bodiSebi vixadoT,<br />
iqneb, xalxs guli movulboTo,<br />
magram... ar SeiZleba, aseT<br />
Wkvian adamianebs ar scodnodaT,<br />
rom Tu bodiSi gulwrfeli araa,<br />
rogorc ar unda SefuTo, adamianebi<br />
amas grZnoben. xom aRmoCda,<br />
rom xalxs ar sWirdeboda es bodiSebi?<br />
Cven, „nacmoZraobis” mxardamWerebi,<br />
gaognebuli viyaviT da<br />
vekiTxebodiT, ratom ixdiT yvelaferze<br />
bodiSs, aRiareT Secdomebi<br />
iq, sadac marTla Secdoma<br />
dauSviT, magram nu danebdebiT iq,<br />
sadac marTlebi xarT. imis gamo<br />
vCxubobdiT, rom oligarqis mar-<br />
Tul, qveynis mizandasaxulad damangrevel<br />
xelisuflebas uniaTo<br />
briyvebis imiji daumkvidres. vaprotestebdiT,<br />
rom im qveynis<br />
opozicia, romelic ufskrulisken<br />
mieqaneba, ar unda iqceodes ganvi-<br />
Tarebuli evropuli qveynis opoziciis<br />
msgavsad, romelic Tavis<br />
xelisuflebas qveynis marTvis taqtikur<br />
sakiTxebze edaveba. Cven ar<br />
varT ganviTarebuli evropuli<br />
qveyana, ar gvyavs is xelisufleba,<br />
romelic ganviTarebul evropul<br />
qveynebs hyavT da oponirebac ar<br />
gvWirdeba qveynis marTvis modelebsa<br />
da standartebze. Cven<br />
oponireba gvWirdeba imaze, rom es<br />
qveyana langarze dadebuli ar miarTvan<br />
ruseTs! imaze, rom es qveyana<br />
ar gaaRatakon, ar daaqcion, ar<br />
daamSion da aseTi gaubedurebuli,<br />
daCoqili ar miuTrion da ar daugdon<br />
putins, rogorc morigi gadasaylapi<br />
lukma! am brZolaSi varT<br />
Cven da ar SeiZleba, am brZolaSi<br />
moiqce ise, rogorc evropuli<br />
qveynis standartuli opoziciuri<br />
partia. me es magiJebda, mdgomareobidan<br />
gamovyavdi, magram isev gimeorebT,<br />
am Temaze laparakisas vawydebodiT<br />
kedels. vekiTxebodiT, _<br />
xom xedavT, qveyana saiT mieqaneba,<br />
sad mihyavs rus oligarqs? gvpasuxobdnen,<br />
_ biZina araa ruseTis<br />
interesebis Segnebuli Semsrulebeli,<br />
ubralod, ruseTisa da<br />
ivaniSvilis interesebi emTxveva<br />
erTmaneTso... es, jer kidev, 2012<br />
wels miTxra erT-erTma liderma,<br />
Semdeg sxvamac gaimeora. mivxvdi,<br />
rom es iyo „nacmoZraobis” lider-<br />
Sifis narativi. me darwmunebuli<br />
var, rom mixeil saakaSvili ase ar<br />
fiqrobs, arc fiqrobda da arc<br />
arasodes ufiqria... verc amas vxsnidi<br />
verafriT... uamravi SekiTxva<br />
dagrovda, magram am yvelafers im<br />
imediT viTmendiT, rom iqneb, movigoT<br />
2016 wlis arCevnebi, rom<br />
Camosuliyo miSa da es yvelaferi<br />
daelagebina. imitom ki ara, rom me<br />
beladomani var, an seqtanti var, an<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis biustebi da suraTebi<br />
midevs saxlSi, Cveulebrivad<br />
davinaxe, mTeli am 9 wlis Semoqmedic<br />
miSa iyo da miSas gareSe<br />
marTla ar vvargebulvarT, ubralod...<br />
jer kidev 2015 wlidan moviTxovdiT<br />
kardakar siaruli daewyoT,<br />
adamianebTan Sexvedrebi, moviTxovdiT,<br />
gulaxdilad SeeRoT yvela<br />
saxlis kari da gulwrfelad dalaparakebodnen<br />
adamianebs. imitom,<br />
rom miTebs ar angrevdnen da<br />
aRarc iyo amis dro da arc debatebis<br />
reJimi muSaobda.<br />
_ ra TvalsazrsiT?<br />
_ imitom, rom rTulad laparakoben,<br />
maTi leqsika sakmaod rTuli<br />
aRsaqmelia ubralo adamianebisTvis.<br />
„nacmoZraobidan” mxolod<br />
mixeil saakaSvili laparakobda<br />
xalxisTvis gasageb enaze. danarCeni<br />
Tavisnairebs elaparakeboda, amitomac<br />
vxedavdiT erTaderT gamosavals<br />
kardakar siarulSi, rom<br />
xalxTan misuliyvnen, daenaxaT,<br />
rom Cveulebrivi adamianebi arian,<br />
demonebi ar arian, kudebi da rqebi<br />
ar aqvT, maTsaviT swyinT, stkivaT,<br />
uxariaT, Tbilebic arian,<br />
megobrulebic, marTlac aseTebi<br />
iyvnen, xom mqonda maTTan piradi<br />
urTierToba. yovel Tve gvesmoda<br />
dapireba, rom Semdegi Tvidan viwyebT<br />
kardakars... partiam rom saSveli<br />
ar daayena, nika meliam Tvi-<br />
Ton daiwyo siaruli, Semdeg sxvebmac<br />
daiwyes, magram es iyo Zalian<br />
gvian. arCevnebamde ramdenime TviT<br />
adre daiwyes. bevrad adre unda<br />
daewyoT. iseTi STabeWdileba mr-<br />
Ceboda, rom arc undodaT gamarjveba.<br />
mivedi kidec partiis erTerT<br />
liderTan, masTan konfidencialuri<br />
saubari moviTxove da<br />
pirdapir vuTxari, rom veWvob,<br />
Tqven ar muSaobT 2016 welze,<br />
Tqven muSaobT 2020 welze. imis<br />
warmodgenaze, rom saerTod mogebaze<br />
ar muSaobdnen, fantazia ar<br />
meyo...<br />
_ anu Tqven ambobT, rom enm<br />
mTeli am 4 wlis manZilze saer-<br />
Tod ar usmenda aqtiur mxardam-<br />
Werebs?<br />
_ gvismendnen, magram igives agr-<br />
Zelebdnen... Cveni jgufisTvis<br />
(saubaria mxardamWerTa jguf<br />
„dneprdaleulebze”, _ r. S) am gagebiT<br />
partia namdvilad ar iyo Caketili,<br />
oRond es Cven movdiodiT<br />
maTTan da ara _ piriqiT. partia<br />
erTpirovnulad imarTeboda, magram<br />
es mmarTveli miSa ar iyo. am<br />
usiamovno aRmoCenas bevrad usiamovno<br />
procesi mohyva _ miSasgan<br />
gamijvnis procesi daiwyo, jer<br />
SefarviT, Semdeg ukve aSkarad. Tavidan<br />
uaryofdnen, konspirologiisa<br />
da SeTqmulebis Teoriis mimdevrobas<br />
gvabralebdnen, Semdeg<br />
„agvixsnes”, rom es SuaSistebis xmebis<br />
mosazidad sWirdebodaT, imitom<br />
rom SuaSistebs miSa ar uyvarT.<br />
gamaognebeli argumenti iyo.<br />
ki magram, Tu am miTiur SuaSistebs<br />
miSa ase sZulT, bokeria uyvarT?<br />
givi TargamaZe? gogoriSvili? TarxniSvili?<br />
miT umetes, rom „nacmos”<br />
mimarT adamianebis siZulvili<br />
Tavdapirvelad swored maTi cinizmiT<br />
iyo gamowveuli.<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
Zalian kargad maxsovs is periodi,<br />
rodesac bokeria televiziis<br />
ekranebs moaciles, imitom rom<br />
xalxSi yvelaze meti agresia, mis<br />
mimarT iyo. Tu miSa unda Caxsniliyo,<br />
maSin, amave logikiT, miSasTan<br />
erTad unda Caxsniliyo yvela Zveli<br />
saxe da mxolod axlebi unda<br />
yofiliyvnen. magram, meore mxriv,<br />
xalxi risTvis aZlevs „nacmos”<br />
xmas? 9-wliani aRmSeneblobisTvis<br />
da im adamianebisTvis, visTanac<br />
dakavSirebulia es 9-wliani aRm-<br />
Senebloba. aq aris miSac, bokeriac<br />
da yvela, vinc maSin xelisuflebaSi<br />
iyo. vekiTxebodiT, _ Tu am<br />
pozitivis mTavar Semoqmeds, saaka-<br />
Svils CaxsniT „nacmoZraobas” ,vin-<br />
Ra mogcemT xmas da risTvis? Tu<br />
yvela „Zveli saxe” buCqebSi unda<br />
gadaimaloT, maS, visRa miscemen<br />
xmas? oTos da elenes? da risTvis?<br />
kargi, vTqvaT, gagiJda xalxi, daijera<br />
es da airCia es axali saxeebi<br />
da moxvediT xelisuflebaSi,<br />
mere buCqebidan unda gamoxvideT<br />
da Wita dauZaxoT? am SekiTxvebze<br />
pasuxi ar hqondaT da yvelas magivrad,<br />
gaugonari cinizmiT da qedmaRlboT,<br />
maTi spikeri socqseleb-<br />
Si, Tamar CergoleiSvili gvpasuxobda.<br />
am periodis gaxsenebac ar<br />
minda, iseTi samarcxvino iyo is kampania,<br />
rasac es qalbatoni awarmoebda.<br />
es iyo gaugonari zizRi da<br />
siZulvili xalxis mimarT. Tveebis<br />
manZilze lanZRavda „nacmos” mxardamWerebs.<br />
jogi, orkebi, banderlogebi,<br />
toqsikuri balasti, _ misi<br />
terminebia. aravin mogatyuoT, rom<br />
amas mxolod imas eZaxda, vinc mas<br />
moRalates uwodebda. me namusgarecxili<br />
miwoda imis gamo, rom<br />
is mxardamWerebi davicavi, visac am<br />
saSineli sityvebiT lanZRavda.<br />
vuxsnidi, rom ar SeiZleboda amomrCevelTan,<br />
mxardamWerTan ase saubari.<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg misi leqsikiT<br />
alaparakda mTeli lider-<br />
Sipi. „gamijnulebi” seqtantebs,<br />
marTulebs, jogs gviwodebdnen da<br />
politsabWo msoflio politikis<br />
nou haus qmnida _ sakuTar amomrCevels,<br />
mxardamWerebs gmobda<br />
dadgenilebiT. amis paralelurad<br />
ras viRebT saakaSvilisgan? sruliad<br />
kontrastul gancxadebas, _<br />
Tu Tqven metyviT, rom me unda<br />
`qronika+~-is saSualebiT minda, Cvens<br />
xalxs mivmarTo: Cemo sayvarelo<br />
xalxo, mogatyues, mwared, daundoblad,<br />
cinikurad. moZebneT sakuTar TavSi<br />
Zala da aRiareT, rom es asea.<br />
mogatyues ara mxolod imaSi, rom<br />
ciur mananas gpirdebodaT miliarderi,<br />
mogatyues `nacmos~ Sesaxeb - Secdomebi<br />
yvela xelisuflebas hqonia da eqneba,<br />
danaSaulic CaudeniaT `nacmos~<br />
xelisuflebaSi yofnisas - yvela am<br />
danaSauls konkretuli avtori hyavs,<br />
magram, is rasac Tqven giyvebodnen da<br />
geubnebodnen `nacmos~ Sesaxeb,<br />
specsamsaxurebis miTologiaa `nacmos~<br />
demonizebisTvis Seqmnili~<br />
`nacmoZraoba" mkacri vertikaliT<br />
imarTeboda, rac icvleba horizontaluri<br />
menejmentiT. partiam unda daibrunos<br />
saxelwodebis Sesatyvisi Sinaarsi -<br />
WeSmaritad saxalxo da nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba. partia kars uRebs mxardamWerebs.<br />
cxadia, es aeroportis trasaze mdgari<br />
Senobis karis gaRebas ar niSnavs, niSnavs im<br />
struqturebis, meqanizmebis Seqmnas, romelic<br />
uzrunvelyofs mxardamWerTa aqtiur<br />
CarTulobas~<br />
gaviwio, Tu Tqven me ar gWirdebiT,<br />
me gaviwevi, Tqven miiReT gadawyvetileba.<br />
„nacmos” mxardamWerebi<br />
aprotestebdnen kidec, _ ratom<br />
ar ambobs miSa araferso? miSa elodeboda,<br />
Cven ras vityodiT. roca<br />
dainaxa, rom mas mxardaWera aqvs da<br />
im 500 aTasi mxardamWeridan 99%<br />
namdvilad misi mxardamWeria, mxolod<br />
maSin amoiRo xma da isic absoluturad<br />
gawonasworebulad.<br />
ver vixseneb verc erT iseT Seuracxmyofel,<br />
damamcirebel epiTets,<br />
iseT lanZRvas, misi yofili Tanapartielebis,<br />
da Tanagundelebis<br />
mimarT, rac maTgan miSam miiRo,<br />
sruliad daumsaxureblad da usamarTlod.<br />
Cven yvelas vaCveneT,<br />
rom diax, mixeil saakaSvilia am<br />
partiis lideri da diax, is sWirdeba<br />
partiasac da qveyanasac. axla<br />
ukve gamoCda, axla ukve yvelam icis,<br />
risTvisac xdeboda es yvelaferi,<br />
mxolod da mxolod, imis gamo,<br />
rom SekveTa iyo aseTi, rom miSa<br />
unda moecilebinaT, es iyo putinisa<br />
da biZinas SekveTa. mixeil saakaSvilia<br />
maTTvis safrTxe, Torem<br />
es partia ar iyo safrTxe, komfortuli<br />
opozicia iyo da bevrad<br />
ufro komfortuli unda gamxdariyo<br />
2016 wlis Semdeg. amas aRvudeqiT<br />
win, vibrZoleT da gavimarjveT.<br />
Tu odnav mainc raime xinji<br />
mqonda mixeil saakaSvilis figurasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, yvelaferi<br />
gabaTilda _ mTel am istoriaSi<br />
erTaderTi is da misi erTguli<br />
TanamebrZolebi iqceodnen Rirseulad,<br />
rogorc politikosebi da<br />
rogorc adamianebi.<br />
verasodes warmomedgina Cemi<br />
Tavi aramcTu politsabWoSi, aramed<br />
partiis aqtivistadac ki, yovelTvis<br />
vicodi, rom Cemi adgili am<br />
brZolaSi samoqalaqo sazogadoebasTanaa,<br />
magram CemTvis udidesi<br />
pativia is ndoba, romelic mixeil<br />
saakaSvilma da misma TanamebrZolebma<br />
gamomicxades. me velodebi,<br />
rom axali politsabWo aqtiurad<br />
imuSavebs imaze, rom xalxma, bolos<br />
da bolos, nacionaluri moZraobisa<br />
da mixeil saakaSvilis Sesaxeb<br />
simarTle gaigos, yvela Secdomas<br />
da danaSauls Tavisi konkretuli<br />
adresati hyavs, aseve konkretuli<br />
adresati hyavs yvela miTs. es procesi<br />
unda daiwyos, da roca damTavrdeba<br />
yvelam unda dainaxos, vin<br />
ra daaSava, vis ra SeeSala da vis<br />
ra daabrales imisTvis, rom xalxis<br />
ndoba daekarga.<br />
_ partiis yrilobidan TiTqmis<br />
Tve gavida, sazogadoeba aqtiur<br />
nabijebs elodeba, rasac, jer-<br />
jerobiT, ver vxedavT.<br />
_ „nacmoZraoba” mkacri vertikaliT<br />
imarTeboda, rac icvleba<br />
horizontaluri menejmentiT.<br />
partiam unda daibrunos saxelwodebis<br />
Sesatyvisi Sinaarsi _ WeSmaritad<br />
saxalxo da nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba. partia kars uRebs mxardamWerebs.<br />
cxadia, es aeroportis<br />
trasaze mdgari Senobis karis<br />
gaRebas ar niSnavs, niSnavs im<br />
struqturebis, meqanizmebis Seqmnas,<br />
romelic uzrunvelyofs mxardamWerTa<br />
aqtiur CarTulobas. am<br />
meqanizmis Seqmnas dro sWirdeba,<br />
es yvelaferi dasalagebelia da<br />
aman gamoiwvia, rasakvirvelia, ra-<br />
Rac drois gawelva. es ar aris is<br />
leTargia, rac 2012-dan 2016-mde<br />
iyo. aRar aris mSvidi kabinetebi,<br />
mSvidi saubrebi, yavis smebi, partiaSi<br />
yvelaferi duRs, ubralod,<br />
es gareT ar Cans, magram yvela<br />
Zalian male dainaxavs. partias<br />
dRes marTavs Wkviani, motivirebuli,<br />
rac mTavaria, wesieri adamianebis<br />
gundi, romlebsac swori<br />
xedva aqvT mimdinare procesebze<br />
da mtkice gadawyvetileba _ es<br />
qveyana daabrunon ganviTarebis,<br />
aRmSneblobis gzaze. win seriozuli<br />
brZolaa. dro ar iTmens, Cven<br />
dRes damoukideblobas vkargavT.<br />
„qronika+”-is saSualebiT minda,<br />
Cvens xalxs mivmarTo: Cemo sayvarelo<br />
xalxo, mogatyues, mwared,<br />
daundoblad, cinikurad. moZebneT<br />
sakuTar TavSi Zala da aRiareT,<br />
rom es asea. mogatyues ara mxolod<br />
imaSi, rom ciur mananas gpirdebodaT<br />
miliarderi, mogatyues „nacmos”<br />
Sesaxeb _ Secdomebi yvela xelisuflebas<br />
hqonia da eqneba, danaSaulic<br />
CaudeniaT „nacmos” xelisuflebaSi<br />
yofnisas _ yvela am<br />
danaSauls konkretuli avtori<br />
hyavs, magram, is rasac Tqven giyvebodnen<br />
da geubnebodnen „nacmos”<br />
Sesaxeb, specsamsaxurebis miTo-<br />
logiaa „nacmos” demonizebisTvis<br />
Seqmnili. saxelmwifo struqturebi<br />
infiltrirebulia rusuli<br />
agenturiT _ mtris jaSuSebi amnistiiT<br />
gamouSves; patriot specrazmelebs<br />
devnian da klaven;<br />
ruseTs saidumlo samxedro bazebsa<br />
da informaciaze wvdoma aqvs;<br />
saxelmwifo sakuTar jariskacebs<br />
mtris sajijgnad imetebs!!! sasamarTlo<br />
da mosamarTleebi Santa-<br />
Jisa da zewolis obieqti gaxda;<br />
Tavisufali sityvis ukanasknel<br />
forposts _ „rusTavi 2"-s daxurva<br />
emuqreba; sazogadoebriv mauwyebelSi<br />
eniT auwereli koSmari<br />
trialebs; „gazproms” xelebaweuli<br />
CavbardiT; okupaciis Sesaxeb kanonSi<br />
cvlilebebis Setanas apireben;<br />
afxazeTis rkinigzas xsnian da<br />
ukve imdenad gaTavxeddnen, konfederaciazec<br />
ki aWikWikdnen, rac<br />
afxazeTisa da samaCablos damoukideblobis<br />
aRiarebas niSnavs da<br />
am dros oligarqi gigantur xeebs<br />
Txris da sakuTar samflobeloSi<br />
miaTrevs; iciT, vinmem, ramxelaa es<br />
samflobelo? ra farTobis miwebsa<br />
da ra qonebas flobs ukve oligarqi<br />
saqarTveloSi? miSas suSs da<br />
paltoebs rom uTvlidiT, vinmem<br />
daTvala is, rac am oTx weliwadSi<br />
miitaca oligarqma? is trasaze<br />
gaWedili magnoliaa dRes Cveni<br />
qveynis simbolo, am xesaviT migvaTrevs<br />
rusi oligarqi saZulveli<br />
imperiis ukana ezoSi Casargavad.<br />
gamofxizldiT, gTxovT, Cveni<br />
qveynisTvis da Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis.<br />
17
to, pirispir darCenili Cvens<br />
mTavar mterTan, saxelmwifos-<br />
Tan, romelsac uamravi berketi<br />
aqvs Cvenze zewolisTvis, romelsac<br />
SeuZlia Cveni poziciisa<br />
da interesebis ugulebelyofa<br />
da Tavisi interesebis Tavsmoxveva.<br />
swored amitom miiCnevs saqarTvelos<br />
yofili sagareo saqmeTa<br />
ministri, „iveriis” erTerTi<br />
damfuZnebeli grigol va-<br />
SaZe, rom abaSiZe-karasinis formati,<br />
sinamdvileSi, mxolod<br />
gaugebari, burusiT moculi Sexvedrebia,<br />
romlis absurduloba<br />
am formatis Seqmnidan or weliwadSi<br />
ukve dadasturda, Tumca<br />
xelisuflebam ar aRiara da<br />
piriqiT, warmatebul formatad<br />
gamoacxada. amave dros, grigol<br />
vaSaZe xazs usvams, rom ruseTTan<br />
urTierTobis dalagebisTvis<br />
sulac araa aucilebeli,<br />
misi TamaSis wesebi miiRo da<br />
wina xelisuflebis gamocdilebas<br />
ixsenebs:<br />
„erTmaneTSi ar unda avurioT<br />
ori ram: saqarTvelo-ruse-<br />
Tis urTierTobebis dalageba<br />
da ruseTis problemebis dalageba<br />
saqarTveloSi. karasinisa<br />
da abaSiZis formati aris burusiT<br />
moculi improvizebuli<br />
molaparakebebi, gaugebari mandatiT,<br />
SeumuSavebeli taqtikiT<br />
da strategiiT da, rac yvelaze<br />
SemaSfoTebelia, Cven mokav-<br />
SireebTan koordinaciis gareSe<br />
dawyebuli da maTi monawileobis<br />
gareSe warmarTuli...<br />
mas Semdeg, rac ruseTis federaciis<br />
mier afxazeTis sruli<br />
samarTlebrivi aneqsiis gegma<br />
gasajarovda, rasac sazogadoebis<br />
samarTliani aRSfoTeba<br />
mohyva, aRmoCnda, rom, Turme,<br />
praRaSi aseTi Temebis ganxilvac<br />
SeiZleba. ukacravad, Tu<br />
aseT mwvave problemebze kamaTi<br />
SesaZlebelia, maSin ratom dRemde<br />
ar iyo deokupaciis, an borderizaciis<br />
sakiTxi dasmuli?<br />
da Tu am Temebis ganxilva<br />
praRaSi ar SeiZleba, ra saWiroa<br />
am formatis gagrZeleba, ma-<br />
Sin rodesac Jenevis molaparakebebi<br />
arsebobs? ratom daTa-<br />
abaSiZe-karasinis formatad<br />
laSa berulava<br />
saxeldebuli praRis Sexvedrebi<br />
577 20 86 13<br />
karga xania, sazogadoebis politizebul<br />
nawilSi „karasini-karas-<br />
inis” formatad moixsenieba. es, ase vTqvaT, umweobis iumoria,<br />
magram, amavdroulad, Zalian kargad gamoxatavs am Sexvedreb-<br />
is namdvil arss.<br />
18<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`karasini-karasinis~ Sexvedrebi,<br />
grigol vaSaZe<br />
bolo Sexvedrebidan yvelaze<br />
naTlad mainc ori faqti dagvamaxsovrda:<br />
zurab abaSiZis umweo<br />
gancxadebebi karasinis pasuxad,<br />
rom gia cercvaZe kriminalia<br />
da misi aseve umweobis gamomxatveli<br />
replika, _ Cven Cvens<br />
moqalaqeebs sxva qveynebs ar gadavcemT<br />
da Tu maincdamainc amis<br />
gadaxedva undaT, amisTvis<br />
sxva formatebi arsebobso. anu,<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom premierministris<br />
(faqtobrivad ki biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis) piradma warmomadgenelma<br />
piradad da pirdapir<br />
ganacxada, _ esec SegviZlia<br />
SevcvaloT, magram sxva formatis<br />
Sexvedrazeo...<br />
meore faqti ki, jer kidev,<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis xelisuflebis<br />
dros, 2011 wels miRebul<br />
SeTanxmebas ukavSirdeba, romelic<br />
saqarTvelom msoflio<br />
savaWro organizaciaSi ruseTis<br />
gawevrianebaze winaaRmdegobis<br />
SeCerebis sanacvlod dado.<br />
am SeTanxmebis mixedviT, ruseTi<br />
valdebulebas iRebda, saqarTvelos<br />
okupirebul regionebTan<br />
gamaval saxelmwifo saz-<br />
Rvarze gaxsnil punqtebze saba-<br />
Jo kontroli dawesebuliyo,<br />
romelic Sveicariis, rogorc<br />
neitraluri qveynis uSualo<br />
monawileobiT ganxorcieldeboda<br />
da es ar gulisxmobda okupirebuli<br />
regionebis politikuri<br />
statusis ganxilvas.<br />
am Temam, anu ruseTisTvis<br />
savaWro derefnis saqarTvelos<br />
gavliT Seqmnam, rogorc Cans,<br />
didi transformacia ganicada.<br />
marTalia, detalebi isev burusiT<br />
moculia, magram cxadia,<br />
rom ruseTi misTvis wamgebian<br />
politikur svlaze xelaxla ar<br />
dadebda fsons, raime rom ar<br />
hqondes Cafiqrebuli, an, kidev,<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />
faruli, an Ria mxardaWeris<br />
imedi ar hqondes.<br />
rogorc yovelTvis, zurab<br />
abaSiZe acxadebs, rom araferi<br />
xdeba sagangaSo da yvela detali<br />
maSin gairkveva, roca mart-<br />
Si jer moskovSi, mere ki TbilisSi<br />
Sveicariis warmomadgenlebi<br />
Camovlen da saboloo Se-<br />
Tanxmebis detalebs daazusteben,<br />
manamde ki gavixsenoT, rodis<br />
da ratom Seiqmna abaSiZekarasinis<br />
formati da riT dagvamaxsovra<br />
Tavi am Sexvedrebma.<br />
dRes ukve cxadia, rom iseve,<br />
rogorc bevri ram 2012 wlis<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg, saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam praRaSi abaSiZekarasinis<br />
Sexvedrebic „Semogvapara”,<br />
ufro politizebuli Jargoni<br />
rom gamoviyenoT _ Cagvido.<br />
konkretulad Tu vityviT,<br />
Sexvedrebi, sadac, sinamdvile-<br />
Si, globalur politikur saki-<br />
Txebsac ganixilaven da, ratom-<br />
`arc erTi WkuaTmyofeli ar aris<br />
saqarTveloSi, vinc ityvis, rom saqarTvelo<br />
ruseTTan raime formatSi diplomatiuri<br />
arxebiT kontaqtebs ar unda axorcielebdes.<br />
SegaxsenebT: ruseTTan molaparakebebs<br />
vawarmoebdiT larsi-yazbegis sasazRvro-sabaJo<br />
gamSvebi punqtis gaxsnaze, aviafrenis aRdgenasa<br />
da ruseTis msoflio savaWro organizaciaSi<br />
gawevrianebaze. samive procesi warmatebiT<br />
dasrulda. `iveriis~ rigebSi ar aris adamiani,<br />
romelic ityvis, rom ruseTTan komunikaciis<br />
arxi ar unda gvqondes, magram ar SeiZleba<br />
ruseTTan molaparakebebSi Sesvla<br />
mokavSireebTan seriozuli konsultaciebis,<br />
saqarTvelos delegaciis mkveTrad<br />
gansazRvruli mandatis, mkafiod dasaxuli<br />
miznebis, transparentulobisa da obieqturi<br />
Suamavlebis, an damkvirveblebis gareSe~<br />
Rac, yovelTvis saqarTvelos<br />
interesebis sazianod Tanxmdebian<br />
xolme, sul sxva Sinaarsis<br />
dialogad SemogvasaRa.<br />
SesaZloa, bevrs axsovs kidec:<br />
roca es Sexvedrebi daiwyo,<br />
saqarTvelos xelisufleba, misi<br />
struqturebis warmomadgenlebi,<br />
Riad da garkveviT ambobdnen,<br />
rom am formatis Sexvedraze<br />
mxolod ekonomikuri da kulturuli<br />
Sinaarsis sakiTxebs<br />
ganixilaven.<br />
rogorc aRmoCnda, premieris<br />
specialuri warmomadgeneli<br />
ruseTTan urTierTobis sakiTxebSi<br />
sulac ar gaCenila haeridan<br />
da arc zurab abaSiZea is persona,<br />
romelsac ruseTTan kulturul-ekonomikur<br />
urTier-<br />
Tobebze sasaubrod gauSveb _<br />
bolos da bolos, amisTvis ufro<br />
sxva tipis figuris SerCeva<br />
SeiZleboda da ara natoSi saqarTvelos<br />
yofili warmomadgenlis<br />
Zveli da myari kavSirebiT<br />
ruseTTan...<br />
Tavidanve gaCnda eWvi, romelsac<br />
saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
da masTan afilirebuli pirebi<br />
konspirologiis Teoriad<br />
naTlavdnen: rom, sinamdvileSi,<br />
es formati Jenevis formatis<br />
alternativad iyo Cafiqrebuli<br />
da is TandaTanobiT Caanacvlebda<br />
Jenevis oTxmxriv Sexvedrebs.<br />
faqtobrivad, asec moxda<br />
da axla ukve ar arsebobs saki-<br />
Txi, romelsac abaSiZe-karasinis<br />
Sexvedraze ar ganixilaven,<br />
iqneba es aviafrenebis aRdgena,<br />
ruseTis mxridan savizo reJimis<br />
gamartivebaze saubari, gia<br />
cercvaZis gadacema-argadacemis<br />
sakiTxi Tu a. S.<br />
SesaZloa, bevrma ikiTxos kidec,<br />
_ ra Zalian didi sxvaobaa<br />
Jenevisa da praRis formatebs<br />
Soris, maSin roca JenevaSic da<br />
praRaSic ruseTi mxaredaa warmodgenili<br />
da Tu imas vambobT,<br />
rom saqarTvelos okupirebuli<br />
regionebis bedi, didwilad,<br />
ruseTis xelSia, ratomaa cudi<br />
masTan pirispir dialogi da<br />
sakiTxebis ganxilva?<br />
am SekiTxvaze pasuxis gasacemad<br />
jer gavixsenoT, ras warmoadgens<br />
Jenevis formati, rogorc<br />
molaparakebis forma: es<br />
aris evrokavSirisa da Cveni um-<br />
Tavresi strategiuli partnioris<br />
_ aSS-is monawileobiT gamarTuli<br />
Sexvedrebi, sadac Cveni<br />
pozicia aris ara mxolod Cveni,<br />
rogorc calke aRebuli saxelmwifos<br />
pozicia, aramed pozicia,<br />
romelsac mxars uWeren<br />
da iziareben swored evrokav-<br />
Siris qveynebi da aSS. swored<br />
imiTaa es formati mniSvnelovani,<br />
rom Cven aq ar varT mar-<br />
18 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
citata sakmaod mkafio iyo da<br />
interpretaciis saSualebas,<br />
faqtobrivad, arc tovebda:<br />
„NATO-saqarTvelos Tanam-<br />
Sromloba ar aris mimarTuli<br />
im miznisken, rom saqarTvelo-<br />
Si NATO-s samxedro infrastruqtura<br />
ganTavsdes. aseTi gegma<br />
bunebaSi ar arsebobs da briuselSi,<br />
moskovsa da TbilsSic<br />
kargad ician, rom dRes da xval<br />
saqarTvelos NATO-Si gawevrianeba<br />
dRis wesrigSi ar dgas”.<br />
drom zurab abaSiZis am poziciasac<br />
civi wyali gadaasxa _<br />
dRes ukve aqtiuri saubaria ara<br />
mxolod natos saswavlo centris<br />
Seqmnaze, aramed saqarTveloSi<br />
natos samxedro bazis ganTavsebazec.<br />
Tumca sakiTxavia,<br />
ramdenadaa mzad amisTvis xelianu<br />
`Cadebuli~ formati<br />
nxmda xelisufleba, rom praRasa<br />
da JenevaSic ruseTs karasini<br />
warmoadgens da saqarTvelos<br />
erTi delegacia hyavs praRaSi<br />
da meore _ JenevaSi?<br />
arc erTi WkuaTmyofeli ar<br />
aris saqarTveloSi, vinc ityvis,<br />
rom saqarTvelo ruseTTan<br />
raime formatSi diplomatiuri<br />
arxebiT kontaqtebs ar unda axorcielebdes.<br />
SegaxsenebT: ruseTTan<br />
molaparakebebs vawarmoebdiT<br />
larsi-yazbegis sasaz-<br />
Rvro-sabaJo gamSvebi punqtis<br />
gaxsnaze, aviafrenis aRdgenasa<br />
da ruseTis msoflio savaWro<br />
organizaciaSi gawevrianebaze.<br />
samive procesi warmatebiT dasrulda.<br />
„iveriis” rigebSi ar<br />
aris adamiani, romelic ityvis,<br />
rom ruseTTan komunikaciis arxi<br />
ar unda gvqondes, magram ar<br />
SeiZleba ruseTTan molaparakebebSi<br />
Sesvla mokavSireebTan seriozuli<br />
konsultaciebis, saqarTvelos<br />
delegaciis mkveTrad<br />
gansazRvruli mandatis,<br />
mkafiod dasaxuli miznebis,<br />
transparentulobisa da obieqturi<br />
Suamavlebis, an damkvirveblebis<br />
gareSe.<br />
aravin icis, praRaSi, sinamdvileSi,<br />
ra xdeba. karasini ambobs,<br />
rom saqarTvelos rkinigzis<br />
afxazeTis monakveTis aRdgenis<br />
sakiTxi ganixiles; batoni<br />
abaSiZe ki amtkicebs, rom am<br />
Temaze erTi sityvac ar Tqmula.<br />
ra STabeWdilebas axdenen<br />
„xelisuflebis” despanebi am<br />
qaosiT saqarTvelos moqalaqeebze,<br />
an mokavSireebze?<br />
rogor warmogvidgenia, aSSs<br />
an evrokavSiris diplomatia<br />
TbilisSi ifrens periodulad<br />
da gvetyvis, gaiRviZeT, naxeT,<br />
ra xdebao?! xom ganucxada xelisuflebam<br />
mokavSireebs, rom<br />
recepti aqvs ruseTTan urTierTobebis<br />
dasalageblad? pasuxad<br />
miviReT, _ Zalian kargi,<br />
maSin gaagrZeleT, Tqven TviTon<br />
mixedeT Tqvens problemebs.<br />
gviTxres da amis Semdeg marto<br />
davrCiT pirispir ruseT-<br />
Tan, Sedegad ki ruseTs hokeis<br />
veTamaSebiT, oRond, msajis gareSe.<br />
aseTi gauazrebeli, absurduli<br />
sagareo politika saqarTvelos<br />
arasodes hqonia”, _<br />
acxadebs grigol vaSaZe.<br />
aRsaniSnavia isic, rom TiTqosda<br />
xil-bostneulsa da kulturul<br />
urTierTobebze gaTvlili<br />
Sexvedrebis dawyebidan<br />
cota xanSi zurab abaSiZem pirdapir<br />
daiwyo iseTi gancxadebebis<br />
gakeTeba, rac saqarTvelos<br />
momavals, mis sagareo kurss,<br />
prioritetebs ukavSirdeba.<br />
man, arc meti, arc naklebi,<br />
isic ki Tqva, rom uaxloes perspeqtivaSi<br />
saqarTvelos natos<br />
wevrebs Soris ver xedavs. mogvianebiT,<br />
mas Tavisi sityvebis<br />
ganmarteba mouxda, rogorc es<br />
biZina ivaniSvils sCvevia xolme,<br />
roca raRac wamoscdeba da mere<br />
ganmartavs, ase ki ara, ase<br />
vTqvio. arada, zurab abaSiZis<br />
`bolo Sexvedrebidan yvelaze naTlad<br />
mainc ori faqti dagvamaxsovrda:<br />
zurab abaSiZis umweo gancxadebebi<br />
karasinis pasuxad, rom gia cercvaZe<br />
kriminalia da misi aseve umweobis<br />
gamomxatveli replika, - Cven Cvens<br />
moqalaqeebs sxva qveynebs ar gadavcemT<br />
da Tu maincdamainc amis gadaxedva<br />
undaT, amisTvis sxva formatebi<br />
arsebobso. anu, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />
premier-ministris (faqtobrivad ki<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis) piradma<br />
warmomadgenelma piradad da pirdapir<br />
ganacxada, - esec SegviZlia SevcvaloT,<br />
magram sxva formatis Sexvedrazeo...~<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
gia cercvaZe<br />
sufleba? aqvs Tu ara mas amis-<br />
Tvis mkveTrad gamoxatuli politikuri<br />
neba? Tu gavixsenebT,<br />
rom abaSiZe-karasinis bolodroindel<br />
Sexvedrebze afxazeTis<br />
gavliT rkinigzis gaxsnis Temam<br />
wamoiwia, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />
Sansi mcirea, radgan naklebad<br />
savaraudoa, natom samxedro<br />
bazis ganTavseba moindomos<br />
qveyanaSi, romelic sakuTar teritorias<br />
satranzito derefnad<br />
uTmobs mtrulad ganwyobil<br />
qveyanas ara savaWro da ekonomikuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT, aramed<br />
swored samxedro daniSnulebiT:<br />
partniori qveynebi swored<br />
ase aRiqvamen rkinigzis SesaZlo<br />
gaxsnaze saubris dawyebas, rac<br />
ruseTs saSualebas miscems,<br />
umokles droSi hqondes derefani<br />
somxeTSi, giumrSi ganTavsebul<br />
rusul bazasTan, romelic<br />
ara marto somxeTze, sruliad<br />
kavkasiaze kontrolisTvisaa<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli.<br />
abaSiZe-karasinis Sexvedrebis<br />
usargeblobaze eqspertebic<br />
amaxvileben yuradRebas. magaliTad,<br />
lado CalaTaSvili ambobs,<br />
rom mTel im periodze,<br />
roca aRniSnuli formatiT Sexvedrebi<br />
mimdinareobda da problema<br />
adgilidan ar iZroda,<br />
vinme unda iyos pasuxismgebeli:<br />
„abaSiZe-karasinis formatis<br />
Seqmnis ideis gaCenisTanave kompetenturi<br />
adamianebis mxridan<br />
gamoiTqva mosazreba, rom aRniSnuli<br />
Sexvedrebi saqarTvelosTvis<br />
safrTxeebis Semcveli<br />
iyo, radgan erTi erTze vrCebodiT<br />
Cvenze gacilebiT Zlier<br />
mtrul saxelmwifosTan da<br />
gansazRvruli ar iyo, ra sakiTxebis<br />
garSemo iwarmoebda dialogi,<br />
anu Cveni iniciativiT SevdiodiT<br />
xafangSi, saidanac mni-<br />
Svnelovani danakargebis gareSe<br />
gamosvla advili ar iqneboda.<br />
mTavrobis faqtobrivi da<br />
iuridiuli xlmZRvanelebis<br />
mxridan ori wlis manZilze ismoda,<br />
rom ruseTTan pirdapiri<br />
dialogi mxolod savaWroekonomikur<br />
sakiTxebs moicavda.<br />
da es maSin, rodesac ruseTi<br />
Riad alaparakda jer saqarTvelos<br />
rkinigzis afxazeTis monakveTis<br />
aRdgena-gaxsnaze, Semdeg<br />
saqarTvelos teritoriis gavliT<br />
ruseT-iranis damakavSirebeli<br />
avareT-kaxeTis gzis mSeneblobaze,<br />
dabolos „ruseTis<br />
federaciasa da afxazeTs Soris<br />
mokavSireobisa da integraciis<br />
Sesaxeb” „xelSekrulebis”<br />
gaformebaze. es ukanaskneli ki<br />
calsaxad saqarTvelos avtonomiuri<br />
regionis, afxazeTis, ruseTis<br />
mxridan aneqsias niSnavs.<br />
abaSiZe-karasinis bolo Sexvedris<br />
Semdeg rusul-qarTuli<br />
urTierTobebis damlageblebmac<br />
ki ver damales, rom mzaddeba<br />
ruseTis mier saqarTvelos<br />
suverenuli teritoriis, afxazeTis,<br />
aneqsia. bunebrivad ismis<br />
kiTxva, _ vin aris pasuxismgebeli<br />
dakargul periodze?<br />
diplomatiur pasiurobaze? sagareo-politikur<br />
idiotizmze<br />
Tu mizanmimarTul mavneblobaze?<br />
megobari qveynebis gacurebaze,<br />
rom saqarTvelo TavisiT<br />
„alagebs urTierTobebs” moskovTan?<br />
tyuilze, rom nato da<br />
evraziuli kavSiri Tavsebadia?<br />
nebismier saxelmwifoSi pasuxismgebloba<br />
ekisreba mTavrobas,<br />
ganurCevlad imisa, saxelmwifo<br />
interesebis ziani sibriyviT<br />
moxda Tu RalatiT. ziani miyenebulia,<br />
Sedegi damdgaria.<br />
ruseT-saqarTvelos am dialogis<br />
dasruleba afxazeTis<br />
regionis savaraudo mitacebiT<br />
da yofili premier-ministris<br />
gancxadeba afxazTa „TviTgamorkvevaze”,<br />
agreTve, avareT-kaxeTis<br />
gzis mSeneblobaze mTavrobis<br />
dumili, Tu evropis sabWos<br />
saparlamento asambleis uprecendentod<br />
kritikuli rezolucia<br />
da sxva, erTaderT daskvnas<br />
badebs _ saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis sagareo politika<br />
damarcxda, saqarTvelos sasicocxlo<br />
interesebs mZime zarali<br />
miadga”, _ ambobs lado CalaTaSvili,<br />
romelic wlebia,<br />
ruseT-saqarTvelos urTier-<br />
Tobis Tematikaze muSaobs da,<br />
amave dros, sxvadasxva region-<br />
Si, maT Soris, ukrainaSi ruse-<br />
Tis mier gamovlenil agresias<br />
akvirdeba.<br />
lado CalaTaSvili erTader-<br />
Ti ar aris, vinc afxazeTis gavliT<br />
rkinigzis aRdgenaSi safr-<br />
Txes xedavs. amave dros, saocaria,<br />
ratom dumdnen da dRemde<br />
duman saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi,<br />
roca somxeTSi ukve<br />
Riad akeTeben komentarebs rkinigzis<br />
aRdgenasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
da es axla ki ara, ori wlis<br />
winaT daiwyes, roca pirvelad<br />
gaiJRera rkinigzis SesaZlo<br />
gaxsnis Sesaxeb versiam.<br />
magaliTad, somxeTis ekonomkis<br />
ministr karen CSmaritianis<br />
gancxadebiT, afxazeTis rkinigzis<br />
sakiTxi, somxeTis evraziul<br />
ekonomikur kavSirSi gawevrianebis<br />
paralelurad, aqtualuri<br />
gaxda da misive mtkicebiT,<br />
es sakiTxi ganixileba:<br />
„afxazeTis rkinigzis amuSavebis<br />
sakiTxi _ somxeTsa da evraziul<br />
ekonomikur kavSirs Soris<br />
saerTo sazRvris sakiTxi,<br />
ganixileba. diax, sakiTxi ganixileba<br />
da Cven momxreni varT”, _<br />
Tqva man da dasZina, rom somxeTis<br />
evraziul kavSirSi gawevrianebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rkinigzis am<br />
mimarTulebis gaxsniT, daintereseba<br />
gaizarda somxeTis mxridanac<br />
da ruseTis mxridanac...<br />
ufro Sors wavida somxeTis<br />
politologTa kavSiris Tavmjdomare,<br />
amaiak ovanesiani, romelmac<br />
Tqva, rom es sakiTxi ar<br />
aris ganpirobebuli mxolod<br />
somxeTis gawevrianebiT evraziul<br />
ekonomikur kavSirSi da is<br />
Sedis rogorc afxazebis, aseve<br />
rusebisa da qarTvelebis interesebSi.<br />
ovanesiani acxadebs,<br />
rom rkinigzis gaxsnisTvis saWiro<br />
iqneba investiciebi, radgan<br />
infrastruqtura mTlianad ganadgurebulia<br />
da darwmunebulia,<br />
rom ruseTi SeZlebs am investiciebis<br />
mozidvas. misi azriT,<br />
aRniSnuli rkinigzis monakveTis<br />
gaxsnas aseve didi mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs regionSi ruseTis<br />
samxedro-politikuri gavlenis<br />
SenarCunebisTvis da am faqtorebs<br />
damatebuli somxeTis<br />
wevroba evraziul ekonomikur<br />
kavSirSi valdebuls xdis ruseTs,<br />
„gamonaxos saSualebebi”,<br />
amitomac somxeTSi mTavar politologs<br />
miaCnia, rom afxaze-<br />
Tis rkinigzis monakveTis gaxsna<br />
dRes SesaZlebelia, Tu ruse-<br />
Ti amas moindomebs...<br />
19
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
kaci, romelic<br />
amerikaSi Catarebuli saprezi-<br />
demna veSapiZe<br />
dento arCevnebis Semdeg msoflio<br />
orad gaiyo _ amerikis 45-e prezi-<br />
dentis, donald trampis momxreebad da mowinaaRmdegeebad.<br />
gaiyvnen ara mxolod politikosebi, aramed gaiyo sazogadoeba.<br />
gaiyvnen biznesmenebi, msaxiobebi, Jurnalistebi. gaiyo yvela,<br />
radgan naTlad dainaxa, rom is, rasac SeCveuli iyo, Tvalsa da<br />
xels Sua icvleba, ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, ingreva.<br />
udavoa, trampis inauguracia<br />
ara mxolod msoflio sazogadoebas,<br />
aramed kacobriobis politikuri<br />
ganviTarebis periodsac<br />
orad gahyofs _ trampamde da<br />
trampis Semdgom periodebad.<br />
trampamde iyo „istebliSmentis<br />
hegemonia”, anu politikuri elita,<br />
romelsac okupirebuli hqonda<br />
marTvis ufleba da miTvisebu-<br />
ZiliT eZina. esaa, ZiriTadad, konservatiuli,<br />
TeTri amerika, romelmac<br />
vera da ver miiRo es Tavsmoxveuli<br />
liberalizmi, magram<br />
imis Zalac ar Seswevda, misTvis<br />
rame seriozuli daepirispirebina,<br />
radgan sistemam is bevrjer daaduma.<br />
rogorc ki xma amoiRo da<br />
Tqva, me tradiciulad minda vicxovro<br />
da tradiciuli ojaxi min-<br />
identobis kandidati, romelsac<br />
aravis vali ar aqvs. mas ar aqvs<br />
maTi vali, vinc tradiculad afinansebda<br />
amerikeli prezidentebis<br />
saarCevno kampanias da Semdgom<br />
iTxovda Tavis wils qveynis Crdilovan<br />
marTvaSi. magaliTad, sorosis<br />
msgavsi filantropebi, sxvadasxva<br />
bizneskorporaciis lobistebi,<br />
sxvadasxva eTnikuri<br />
jgufis lobistebi da a. S. trampma<br />
Tavisi saarCevno kampania Tavad<br />
daafinansa, amitomac dRes aravis<br />
vali ar aqvs. es ki mas moqmedebis<br />
srul Tavisuflebas aZlevs. aman<br />
rigiT amomrCevelSi rwmena gaaCina,<br />
rom es kaci Tavis dapirebebs<br />
Seasrulebs, radgan xelis SemSleli<br />
aravin hyavs.<br />
amas garda, trampma yvelasTvis<br />
sebs StatebSi keravdnen. CineTSi<br />
ki isini aRar waiyvanes, Sedegad aT<br />
milionamde amerikeli umuSevari<br />
darCa. Semosavlis gareSe darCa<br />
aTi milioni amerikuli ojaxi.<br />
esec ukmayofilo 30 milioni<br />
amomrCeveli, romelsac, uecrad,<br />
maTTvis gasageb enaze uTxres,<br />
rom uSvelidnen. trampi maT dahpirda,<br />
rom yvela sawarmos amerikaSi<br />
daabrunebs, xolo vinc amas ar<br />
izams, maT produqcias damatebi-<br />
Ti gadasaxadebiT dabegravs, Sedegad<br />
ki iafi muSaxeliT miRebuli<br />
SeRavaTi azrs dakargavs. faqtia,<br />
rom am dapirebebma imuSava.<br />
imuSava amomrCevelzec da imuSava<br />
praqtikaSic. Sedegi ukve gamoCnda<br />
_ amerikuli multinacionaluri<br />
korporacia „fordi” Ta-<br />
TobiT, ganxorcieldeba. magaliTisTvis<br />
_ kedeli meqsikasTan. aSS-<br />
Si yvelam icis, rom maT qveyanaSi<br />
aralegalebisa da kriminalis yvelaze<br />
didi nakadi, narkotikebis<br />
yvelaze didi partiebi, swored<br />
meqsikidan Sedis. 3000-kilometriani<br />
sazRvris gakontroleba ki ise,<br />
rom iq veraferi da araferi SemoZvres,<br />
praqtikulad, SeuZlebelia.<br />
amitom gadawyvita, aaSenos<br />
kedeli, romelzec veravin gadmoZvreba.<br />
liberalebma ki maSinve<br />
moZebnes analogi, _ „berlinis<br />
kedeli”. ideaSi, orive kedelia,<br />
magram sruliad sxvadasxva rames<br />
hyofs. berlinis kedelma erTi<br />
saxelmwifo da erTi eri gahyo<br />
orad, trampis kedeli ki arafers<br />
hyofs. Tu maincdamainc gayofa-<br />
li hqonda kacobriobis mTavari<br />
ideologis statusi. amerikuli<br />
politelitis ideologia ki, ukve<br />
naxevar saukuneze meti, liberalizmia.<br />
liberalizmi yvelgan da<br />
yvelaferSi. liberalizmi Tavisuflebis<br />
saxeliT. liberalizmi rwmenis<br />
nacvlad. liberalizmi, rogorc<br />
cxovrebis wesi. mravali wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi amerikis saxelmwifo<br />
departamentma es ideologia mTavar<br />
saeqsporto produqtad aqcia.<br />
Znelad Tu vinme warmoidgenda,<br />
rom es sistema, odesRac, aRar<br />
imuSavebda da damarcxdeboda, magram<br />
arasodes ar unda Tqva „arasodes”.<br />
pirveli, rac trampma SeZlo,<br />
isaa, rom ipova da rac mTavaria,<br />
gaaRviZa is amerika, romelsac aTwleulebia,<br />
(daaxloebiT, meore<br />
msoflio omis Semdeg) saRaTas<br />
20<br />
da mqondeso, maSinve homofobi da<br />
kacTmoZule uwodes, mediis meSveobiT<br />
samarcxvino boZze gaakres,<br />
daamcires da daiWires kidec.<br />
amitomac dadumda naxevari amerika<br />
da nel-nela miiZina kidec. ai,<br />
swored es miZinebuli amerika<br />
gaaRviZa trampma.<br />
maRviZaras funqcia trampis<br />
mier, si-en-en-is eTerSi, winasaar-<br />
Cevnod, naTqvamma frazam Seasrula:<br />
„me tradiciuli qorwinebis<br />
momxre var, rodesac qorwinebaSi<br />
qali da mamakaci imyofebian”. es<br />
iyo mexi amerikuli liberalizmis<br />
mowmendil caze. uceb, yvelam<br />
dainaxa, rom, Turme, aseTi rameebis<br />
laparaki SeiZleba da Tan Zalian<br />
maRali tribunidanac. mniSvnelovani<br />
aRmoCnda is, rom am<br />
uryevi liberaluri Rirebulebebis<br />
winaaRmdeg ilaSqrebs prez-<br />
gasageb enaze axsna, Tu rogor<br />
apirebs milionobiT samuSao adgilis<br />
Seqmnas. 80-iani wlebis bolodan,<br />
iafi muSaxelis ZebnaSi, aTasobiT<br />
amerikuli sawarmo meqsika-<br />
Si, CineTSi, indoneziasa da a. S.<br />
gadabargda. Sedegad, korporaciebma<br />
Tavisi kapitali gaaasmages. ra<br />
Tqma unda, igive produqcias amzadeben<br />
da igive fasad yidian, oRond<br />
aTjer iafi muSaxeliT, anu<br />
naklebi danaxarjiT. bednieri iyo<br />
yvela, amerikeli milionerebi,<br />
romlebic miliarderebi gaxdnen<br />
da mSieri CineTic, romelmac saocari<br />
ekonomikuri aRmasvla daiwyo.<br />
milionobiT Tavis moqalaqe<br />
daasaqma da trilionobiT dolari<br />
Tavis ekonomikaSi moizida.<br />
vin dazaralda?.. vin da rigi-<br />
Ti amerikeli, romelic am sawarmoebSi<br />
muSaobda, sanam isini jin-<br />
vis gegmebs cvlis da meqsikaSi<br />
sawarmos aRar aaSenebs. kompania<br />
700 milion aSS dolaris investicias,<br />
meqsikis nacvlad, SeerTebul<br />
StatebSi, kerZod ki miCigan-<br />
Si Cadebs da amiT amerikaSi 700<br />
axal samuSao adgils Seqmnis.<br />
dapirebebis Sesruleba, saer-<br />
Tod, calke Temaa. faqtia, rom<br />
trampma yvela Tavisi dapirebis<br />
Sesruleba inauguraciis dResve<br />
daiwyo, rac, Tavis mxriv, seriozuli<br />
siaxlea. amerikelebs aseTi<br />
operatiuloba franklin ruzveltis<br />
Semdeg ar axsovT, roca<br />
didi depresiis dasaZlevi kanoni<br />
ruzveltma sazogadoebas inauguraciidan<br />
meeqvse dRes warudgina.<br />
erTi Tvec ar gasula trampis<br />
gaprezidentebidan da ukve aravis<br />
epareba eWvi, rom misi yvelaze „gi-<br />
Juri” dapirebebic ki, didi alba-<br />
zea saqme, aSS-sa da meqsikas saxelmwifo<br />
sazRvari hyofs, kedels<br />
ki am sazRvris dacvis funqcia<br />
ekisreba da aranairi politikuri<br />
datvirtva mas ar gaaCnia, gansxvavebiT<br />
berlinis, an, Tundac, israel-palestinis<br />
gamyofi kedlisgan.<br />
aq is ufro mniSvnelovania,<br />
vin gamoyofs fuls amxela infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtisTvis<br />
da ramdeni aTasi adamiani dasaqmdeba<br />
3141-kilometriani kedlis<br />
mSeneblobaze.<br />
ase rom, kedelTan dakavSirebiT<br />
atexili aJiotaJi isev konservatiuli<br />
da liberaluri msoflios<br />
dapirispirebis konteqst-<br />
Si unda ganvixiloT, iseve rogorc<br />
trampis mier, migrantebTan<br />
dakavSirebuli gankargulebebi.<br />
axali xom araferi momxdara. ukontrolo<br />
migraciis winaaRmdeg<br />
20 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
msoflios cvlis<br />
ibrZoda barak obamac. mis dros<br />
yvelaze meti aralegali gamoaZeves<br />
amerikidan. Tumca maSin,<br />
amis gamo, msoflio liberalizmi<br />
krunCxvebSi ar Cavardnila, imitom<br />
rom es yvelaferi amerikis memarcxene-liberaluri,<br />
demokratiuli<br />
partiis lideris xeliT<br />
keTdeboda, amitomac dasaSvebi<br />
iyo. trampma ki, rac ar unda Tqvas,<br />
yvelaferi miuRebelia, da ara<br />
imitom, rom yvelafers cuds da<br />
miuRebels ambobs, aramed imitom,<br />
rom misi memarjvene konservatizmia<br />
miuRebeli.<br />
Tumca aravin ifiqros, rom<br />
brZola mxolod ideologiur<br />
doneze mimdinareobs. brZola, upirveles<br />
yovlisa, mimdinareobs<br />
dafinansebis SesanarCuneblad.<br />
aSS-s saxelmwifo departamenti<br />
yovelwliurad acxadebda prioritetul<br />
mimarTulebebs, romelTa<br />
dafinansebazec, sxvadasxva donori<br />
organizaciis meSveobiT,<br />
mTeli msoflios masStabiT, miliardobiT<br />
dolari nawildeboda.<br />
magaliTisTvis 2012 wlamde aseT<br />
prioritets warmoadgena genderuli<br />
Temebi. Sesabamisad, mTeli<br />
msoflios samoqalaqo seqtori<br />
genderuli TematikiT dakavda da,<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi, uTo rom<br />
CagerTo, iqidanac qalTa emansipaciebis<br />
sakiTxebze saubari ismoda.<br />
2012 wlidan genderi seqsualurma<br />
umciresobebma Caanacvla<br />
da amitomacaa, rom mexuTe welia,<br />
yvela arasamTavrobo organizacia,<br />
rogorc saqarTveloSi, ise<br />
mTel msoflioSi, LGBT Temas<br />
icavs. xuTi wlis winaT es Tema<br />
aravis axsovda, radgan am TemiT<br />
fuli ar iSoveboda. amas hqvia<br />
liberalizmis agresiuli eqsporti<br />
mTel msoflioSi. esaa yvelaze<br />
Zlieri amerikuli iaraRi. is gacilebiT<br />
efeqtiania, vidre romelime<br />
birTvuli qobini.<br />
da uceb, TeTr saxlSi modis<br />
kaci, romelic ambobs, rom amerika<br />
aravis aRar moaxvevs Tavs sakuTari<br />
cxovrebis wess, arc liberalurs<br />
da arc konservatiuls.<br />
anu aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
awyobil dafinansebis sistemas,<br />
ubralod, gamorTavs. axla xom<br />
gasagebia, ratom aWyivlda mSieri<br />
goWiviT msoflio samoqalaqo seqtori...<br />
amitomac araviTari mniSvneloba<br />
ar aqvs imas, ra Temaze<br />
daupirispirdebian tramps, mTavaria,<br />
misi diskreditacia. iqneb,<br />
rogorme gadadgoma aiZulon.<br />
iqneb, rogorme Zveli sistema<br />
gadaarCinon.<br />
gansakuTrebul interess iwvevs<br />
trampis survili, damegobrdes<br />
ruseTTan. es, albaT, misi<br />
dapirebebis yvelaze rTulad Sesasrulebeli<br />
nawilia. msoflios<br />
bevrjer unaxavs vaSingtonisa da<br />
moskovis Serigebis mcdelobebi.<br />
ruzveltidan moyolebuli amas<br />
cdilobda yvela. ruzvelti _<br />
stalinTan, kenedi da niqsoni _<br />
xruSCovTan, fordi da jonsoni _<br />
breJnevTan da a. S. urTierTobebis<br />
gadatvirTvis sul bolo mcdeloba<br />
ki obamas hqonda putinTan,<br />
magram uSedegod. araferi mag<br />
saqmidan, saboloo jamSi, ar gamodis,<br />
radgan es ori saxelmwifo<br />
mxolod urTierTdapirispirebisa<br />
da konkurenciis pirobebSi axerxebs<br />
ganviTarebas. didxans Caxuteba<br />
maT jer arasdros gamosvliaT.<br />
Zalian sainteresoa, gamouvaT<br />
Tu ara amjerad?..<br />
Tumca, Tu am ori giganti saxelmwifos<br />
urTierTobis istorias<br />
gadavxedavT, davinaxavT, rom yvelaze<br />
efeqtianad da didi xniT<br />
TanamSromloba maT maSin SeZles,<br />
roca meore msoflio omis dros<br />
saerTo mteri gamouCndaT. es iyo<br />
erTaderTi SemTxveva, roca rusebi<br />
da amerikelebi, realurad,<br />
mokavSireebi iyvnen (da isic qar-<br />
Tvelis damsaxurebiT:)))...).<br />
ruseTTan saTanamSromlod<br />
trampi analogiur winapirobebs<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
eZebs. Tu maSin iyo nacisturi<br />
germania da faSizmi, ratom ar<br />
gamodgeba dRes saerTo mtrad islamuri<br />
saxelmwifo da terorizmi?..<br />
miT umetes, rom trampma<br />
erTi kviris win, samxedroebTan<br />
Sexvedrisas, praqtikulad, jvarosnuli<br />
omi gamoucxada islamur<br />
saxelmwifos. terorizmis winaaRmdeg<br />
brZolas trampi RvTisgan<br />
dalocvil saqmes uwodebs da miznis<br />
misaRwevad ukiduresad radikalur<br />
zomebsac amarTlebs. magaliTad<br />
iseTs, rogoricaa teroristebis<br />
wyliT wameba.<br />
arada, erTi SexedviT, sad amerika<br />
da sad islamuri saxelmwifosgan<br />
momdinare safrTxe?.. am<br />
teroristuli saxelmwifos SeqmniT<br />
obamas administraciam Seqmna<br />
magniti, romelmac mTeli msofliodan<br />
miizida terorizmiT moxibluli,<br />
gaxurebuli Tavebi. amiT<br />
problema, amerikidan Zalian Sors<br />
_ siriasa da eraySi gadaitanes.<br />
TiTqosda ra unda iyos amaze<br />
komfortuli mdgomareoba qveynisTvis,<br />
romelic terorizmis<br />
mTavari samiznea bolo 16 weliwadi.<br />
xolo is, rom amerikelebi erayis<br />
xelisuflebas islamur saxelmwifosTan<br />
brZolaSi exmarebian,<br />
alibis Seqmnis mcelobaa im<br />
braldebis sawinaaRmdegod, rom<br />
es teroristuli organizacia obamas<br />
administraciam hilari klintonis<br />
saxelmwifo departamentis<br />
Tavmjdomareobis dros Seqmna.<br />
rogoradac ar unda iyos, faqtia,<br />
rom trampi obamas dalagebul<br />
saerTaSoriso politikaSi<br />
aSkarad ver grZnobs Tavs komfortulad<br />
da erTi suli aqvs,<br />
ise aCeCos iq yvelaferi, rogorc<br />
misi qoCori aCeCa iumoristuli<br />
Sous wamyvanma.<br />
tramps, islamur saxelmwifos-<br />
Tan aseTi gaafTrebuli dapirispirebiT,<br />
ufro politikuri miznebis<br />
miRweva surs. pirvel rigSi,<br />
man Tavis amomrCevels unda daanaxvos,<br />
rom is gaanadgurebs im danaSaulebriv<br />
organizacias, romelic<br />
misma politikurma mowinaaRmdegeebma<br />
Seqmnes. amas garda, amerikul<br />
armias, didi xania, albaT,<br />
bin ladenis likvidaciis mere, raime<br />
mniSvnelovani samxedro gamarjveba<br />
ar uzeimia. es ki, rusebis<br />
mier alepos aRebis Semdeg, gansakuTrebulad<br />
damamcirebelia.<br />
msoflios mTavarma policielma,<br />
drodadro, Tavisi statusi unda<br />
ganaaxlos xolme. yovelive es<br />
rusebTan, droebiT mainc, damegobrebas<br />
Tu Seuwyobs xels, xom mTlad<br />
kargi. Tumca rusul-amerikuli<br />
megobroba arc meore msoflio<br />
omSi yofila siamtkbilobaze<br />
awyobili. maTi mokavSireoba<br />
iZulebiTi rom iyo, SeuiaraRebeli<br />
TvaliTac Canda. Tu trampma<br />
da putinma, raRac formiT, terorizmis<br />
winaaRmdeg gaerTianeba<br />
SeZles, bednier da didi xniT daZmakacebas<br />
es mainc ar gamoiwvevs.<br />
Tumca am droebiTi Caxutebis mi-<br />
Rwevac sakmaod rTuli iqneba, Tundac<br />
igive iranis faqtoris gamo.<br />
trampi irans Riad emuqreba, Tan<br />
ara mxolod sanqciebis aRdgeniT.<br />
iranis ukan ki ruseTi dgas, romelc<br />
dRe dReze axali, grandiozuli<br />
energoproeqtebis wamowyebas<br />
gegmavs Tavis Zvel partnior-<br />
Tan. iranma ki, amasobaSi, ori balistikuri<br />
raketa gamoscada da israelis<br />
winaaRmdeg agresiuli ritorika<br />
ganaaxla.<br />
mokled, msoflio trampa-cumpis<br />
fonze geopolitikuri Zvrebis<br />
molodini didia. samwuxarod,<br />
am gadanawilebidan ar Cans, rom<br />
saqarTvelom tortis patara naWeri<br />
mainc SeiZleba miiRos. Tu<br />
rusul-amerikul urTierTobaSi<br />
araferi Seicvala, arc CvenTvis<br />
Seicvleba rame da dRevandeli<br />
Cveni xelisuflebis sruliad<br />
gaugebari sagareo politikiT is-<br />
ev am qaosSi viqnebiT _ roca veravin<br />
gamCnevs da veravin gxedavs,<br />
imitom rom Cven TviTon ar gvsurs,<br />
msoflio politikur procesSi<br />
CaverToT. da amas qveynis<br />
araformaluri mmarTvelis brZnuli<br />
dabalansebis politikas vuwodebT.<br />
amerikisa da ruseTis, Tundac,<br />
droebiTi damegobrebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
xom saerTod aRaravis gavaxsendebiT.<br />
aseTi geopolitikuri<br />
damegobreba aucileblad gulisxmobs<br />
xolme erTmaneTis gavlenis<br />
sferoebSi Caurevlobas. da, ratomRac,<br />
eWvi maqvs, saqarTvelo,<br />
aseT SemTxvevaSi, amerikuli gavlenis<br />
sferoSi ar moxvdeba.<br />
e. i. erTaderTi, ris imedzec<br />
saqarTvelos sagareo politika<br />
aris damokidebuli, is gaxlavT,<br />
rom amerikisa da ruseTis urTierTobebi<br />
kidev ufro gauaresdes,<br />
rom patara, Crdiloeli mezoblisgan<br />
daCagruli saqarTvelosTvis<br />
SeSfoTeba da aRSfoTeba<br />
isev saWiro gaxdes. es aris da<br />
es Cveni xeiric da Cveni saerTaSoriso<br />
pozicionirebac.<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania trampis<br />
gancxadebebi natosTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
amerikis prezidenti Sanss ar<br />
uSvebs xelidan, evropelebs Seaxsenos,<br />
rom usafrTxoebisTvis fulia<br />
gadasaxdeli. da rom amerika<br />
aRar apirebs yvelas magivrad<br />
Crdiloatlantikuri aliansis<br />
Senaxvas. amas trampma isic daumata,<br />
rom 28 wevrisgan Semdgari<br />
bloki moZvelda. trampis TqmiT,<br />
maT an unda gadaixadon Zveli valebi,<br />
an nato unda datovon: „Tuki<br />
es natos daSlis, is daSlis natos”.<br />
kidev ufro gasaocari aRmoCnda<br />
evropelebis reaqcia trampis<br />
am gancxadebaze. evropelebi, rogrc<br />
Cans, imdenad SeeCvivnen sxvis<br />
xarjze cxovrebas, rom trampis<br />
sityvebi natos erToblivi dafinansebis<br />
aucileblobaze Seuracxyofadac<br />
ki miiRes. da imis magivrad,<br />
rom sakuTari usafrTxoebisTvis<br />
jibeze xeli gaekraT, merkelma<br />
da olandma evropis damoukidebeli<br />
armiis Seqmnaze daiwyes<br />
saubari. ase Tu gagrZelda, nato<br />
saqarTvelosTvis da ukrainisTvis<br />
ki ara, usafrTxoebis qolgis<br />
funqcias evrokavSirisTvisac ve-<br />
Rar Seasrulebs. esec kidev erTi<br />
umniSvnelovanesi Tema, romelmac<br />
saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso gegmebze<br />
seriozuli gavlena SeiZleba<br />
iqonios.<br />
rogoradac ar unda ganviTardes<br />
msoflio geopolitika, faqtia,<br />
rom trampma saWe mkveTrad<br />
marjvniv gadaxara. faqtia isic,<br />
rom msoflio masStabis Savi piaric<br />
mas ver azaralebs. pirvelad<br />
xdeba ise, rom erTi adamianis winaaRmdeg<br />
mimarTuli msoflio mediasaSualebebi<br />
trampis tviteris<br />
postebTan yoveldRe marcxdebian,<br />
romlebsac ufro meti adamiani<br />
kiTxulobs da elodeba, vidre<br />
CNN-s, ABC-isa da NBC-is ereTad<br />
aRebuls.<br />
trampis siZliere mis martoobaSia.<br />
yvelas winaaRmdeg mebrZoli<br />
aSkarad ufro did mxardaWeras<br />
poulobs masebSi, vidre misi<br />
konkurentebi politelitidan.<br />
trampis koziri stereotipebis<br />
ngrevaa. man es icis da amitomac<br />
yoveldRe axal-axal stereotips<br />
angrevs.<br />
trampi dRes msoflioSi erTaderTi<br />
politikosia, romelsac<br />
SeuZlia Tqvas, rom gripis virusis<br />
sawinaaRmdego vaqcinacia yvelaze<br />
didi TaRliTobaa medicinis<br />
mTeli istoriis manZilze. da rom<br />
vaqcinacia uzarmazari fulis gakeTebis<br />
saSualebaa, is organizmis<br />
imunitets aqveiTebs da amis Sedegad<br />
adamianebi virusebis mimarT<br />
kidev ufro daucvelebi xdebian.<br />
sainteresoa, rom trampma es<br />
Tqva da misi es naTqvami mTelma<br />
msofliom gaigo. darwmunebuli<br />
var, uamravma eqimma misi es gamonaTqvami<br />
uamrav teleeTerSi „miwaSi<br />
Cado”, magram faqtia, rom ver<br />
gadafara. ver gadafara ki niSnavs,<br />
sainformacio omi waago.<br />
mxolod tramps SeuZlia Tqvas,<br />
rom sazogadoebrivi azris kvlevebi<br />
arasandoa da is mosaxleobis<br />
SecdomaSi Seyvanas ufro emsaxureba,<br />
vidre azris gamokiTxvas.<br />
amas planetaze uamravi adamiani<br />
ambobs, magram trampis naTqvami<br />
mTelma msofliom gaigo da<br />
msgavsi kvlevis sandoobasac jer<br />
arnaxuli dartyma miadga.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom trampi<br />
dRes yvelaze moTxovnadi adamiania<br />
msoflioSi, imavdroulad, is<br />
yvelaze saZulveli adamianicaa.<br />
Znelad mosaZebnia politikosi,<br />
romlis warumateblobac, erTdroulad,<br />
amden adamians unda.<br />
yvelas winaaRmdeg mebrZolis mantia<br />
trampisTvis rogorc warmatebis,<br />
ise katastrofis momtani<br />
SeiZleba aRmoCndes. Tumca nu vimkiTxavebT,<br />
umjobesia, Tvali mivadevnoT<br />
msoflio politikuri<br />
wesrigis elvisebur cvlilebebs,<br />
romelic breqsitiT daiwyo da<br />
trampiT grZeldeba. cvlilebebis<br />
sio evrokavSirs uaxlovdeba, sadac<br />
wels ramdenime umniSvnelovanesi<br />
arCevnebi eliT. gardamtexi<br />
iqneba Tu ara cvlilebebi, vnaxavT,<br />
magram rom iqneba, eWvi aravis<br />
epareba, radgan saWesTan amerikis<br />
istoriaSi yvelaze araordinaruli<br />
prezidenti, donald trampi<br />
zis.<br />
21
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
risi inicireba da Secvla igegmeba<br />
parlamentis safinanso-sabiu-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
jeto komiteti gasuli wlis noe-<br />
mberSi dakompleqtda da, rogorc<br />
mogexsenebaT, mis Tavmjdomared irakli kovzanaZe, moadgileebad<br />
ki paata kviJinaZe, irakli beraia da roman gociriZe dain-<br />
iSnnen. maT garda komitetSi kidev Svidi wevria (nika meliam<br />
ukve datova es komiteti).<br />
maTi ZiriTadi saqmianoba<br />
noemberSive daanonsda, roca<br />
komitetis Tavmjdomarem Tqva,<br />
rom samomavlod maTi dRis wesrigi<br />
Zalian datvirTuli iqneba<br />
arsebuli biujetis proeqtisa<br />
da sxva safinanso saqmianobidan<br />
gamomdinare.<br />
imuSaves da daamtkices 2017<br />
wlis biujeti (romelic calke<br />
ganxilvis Temaa). kovzanaZis<br />
TqmiT: „rac qveynisTvis Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovania, saqarTvelos<br />
fulad-sakredito politikaze<br />
muSaoba maTi komitetis prerogativa<br />
iqneboda, vinaidan<br />
swored es aris mTavari dokumenti<br />
saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
bankisTvis. masSi potenciuri<br />
normebi ideba, romelic 2017<br />
wlisTvis mTavari dokumenti<br />
iqneboda centraluri bankisTvis.<br />
es aris safinanso-sabiujeto<br />
komitetis uaxlesi er-<br />
Ti Tvis dRis wesrigi”, _ daaanonsa<br />
maSin kovzanaZem.<br />
dRes biujeti ukve damtkicebulia,<br />
amitom „qronika+” dainteresda,<br />
Tu ras saqmianobs<br />
da ra etapzea axla safinansosabiujeto<br />
komitetis muSaoba,<br />
risi inicireba igegmeba da ras<br />
SeiZleba velodoT samomavlod?<br />
cnobilia, rom misi muSaoba<br />
unda moicavdes ara mxolod<br />
qveynis mTavar sabiujeto dokumentze<br />
muSaobasa da sakanonmdeblo<br />
saqmianobas, aramed komitetSi<br />
Sesul korespondenciebze<br />
muSaobasac, saxelmwifo<br />
biujetis Sesrulebaze monitorings,<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciebTan<br />
TanamSromlobasa<br />
da maTTan erTad Catarebul<br />
RonisZiebebs.<br />
komitetis saqmianobis gegma-<br />
22<br />
paata kviJinaZe<br />
`mTavari sakiTxi, romelzedac komiteti<br />
uwyvetad apirebs muSaobas, aris komitetSi<br />
Semosuli kanonproeqtebis, saerTaSoriso<br />
xelSekrulebebisa da sakanonmdeblo<br />
winadadebebis ganxilva. Cveulebriv reJimSi<br />
vmuSaobT, aris kanonebi, romlebic am wuTSi<br />
muSavdeba, es aris saratifikacio, kanonebi,<br />
romlebzedac wamyvani komiteti varT, kanonebi,<br />
sadac savaldebulo komitets warmovadgenT.<br />
aseve vmuSaobT auditis samsaxurTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, Tu ra saxiT unda iyos<br />
warmodgenili maT mier momzadebuli masalebi<br />
da rogor SevqmnaT samuSao jgufi; rogor<br />
ufro maRal xarisxSi ava es samsaxuri<br />
safinanso-sabiujeto komitetTan. aseve gvaqvs<br />
urTierToba mTavrobasTan; sxvadasxva<br />
komisiaSi varT, sadac sapensio reforma<br />
muSavdeba, aseve aris fondebTan<br />
dakavSirebuli sakiTxebi da a. S. muSa<br />
procesia~<br />
Sia saxelmwifo biujetis Sesrulebis<br />
Sesaxeb yoveldRiuri/<br />
yovelTviuri operatiuli informaciis<br />
damuSaveba da saWiroebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi misi ganxilva;<br />
erovnuli bankis mier warmodgenili<br />
araauditirebuli<br />
sabalanso uwyisis damuSaveba<br />
da, aseve, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
misi ganxilva; moqalaqeebisa<br />
da organizaciebis<br />
werilebis ganxilva da Sesabamisi<br />
reagireba. komiteti tradiciulad<br />
ismens biznesombudsmenis<br />
mier komitetisTvis wardgenil<br />
wliur angariSs, kvartalurad<br />
ganixilavs saxelmwifo<br />
auditis angariSebs, ganixilavs<br />
2017 wlis saxelmwifo biujetis<br />
Sesrulebis pirveli kvartlis,<br />
6 Tvisa da 9 Tvis angariSebs<br />
da sxv.<br />
komiteti 2018 wlis bolosTvis<br />
ki erovnuli bankis mier<br />
warmodgenili momavali sami<br />
wlis (2018-2019-2020 wlebis)<br />
monetaruli politikis ZiriTadi<br />
mimarTulebebis proeqtis<br />
ganxilvas, dadgenilebis proeqtis<br />
SemuSavebasa da parlamentisTvis<br />
dasamtkiceblad wardgenas<br />
gegmavs. komiteti tradiciulad<br />
imuSavebs Semdgomi<br />
wlis saxelmwifo biujetis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonproeqtze.<br />
mTeli wlis ganmvalobaSi<br />
dagegmilia saerTaSoriso da<br />
donori organizaciebis (WB;<br />
IMF; GIZ; NDI; UNDP; USAID)<br />
warmomadgenlebTan Sexvedrebi,<br />
maTi kvlevebisa da rekomendaciebis<br />
gaanalizeba da maT<br />
safuZvelze moqmedi kanonmdeblobis<br />
daxvewa.<br />
komitetis sxdomaze aseve<br />
ganixiles e. w. larizaciis reformasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli kanonproeqtTa<br />
paketi, romelsac<br />
parlamenti daCqarebuli wesiT<br />
ixilavs da mxari dauWires<br />
plenarul sxdomaze mesame _<br />
saboloo mosmeniT gansaxilvelad<br />
gatanas.<br />
yovelive amis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
„qronika+”-ma Tvali gadaavlo<br />
komitetis muSaobas axali<br />
wlidan, Tu raze imuSaves<br />
da ras gegmaven samomavlod:<br />
mimdinare wlis 7 Tebervals<br />
safinanso-sabiujeto komitetis<br />
sxdoma gaimarTa, romelsac,<br />
ra Tqma unda, komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomare, irakli kovzanaZe<br />
uZRveboda. aq pirveli mosmenisTvis<br />
ganixiles saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis mier sakanonmdeblo<br />
iniciativis wesiT warmodgenili<br />
„regulirebis safasuris<br />
Sesaxeb” saqarTvelos<br />
kanonSi cvlilebis Setanis Taobaze”<br />
kanonproeqti, romelic<br />
deputatebs saqarTvelos garemosa<br />
da bunebrivi resursebis<br />
dacvis ministris moadgile<br />
maia biTaZem warudgina.<br />
am kanonproeqtiT bunebrivi<br />
resursebiT sargeblobis, nav-<br />
Tobisa da gazis gadamuSavebis,<br />
an transportirebis saqmianobis<br />
regulirebis safasuris<br />
odenoba, struqtura da gadaxdis<br />
wesi dgindeba. am kanonproeqtis<br />
mixedviT, regulirebis<br />
safasuris konkretul odenobebs<br />
kanoni gansazRvravs, gamonaklisis<br />
saxiT ki, 2016-2017<br />
wlis TevzWeris sezonisTvis,<br />
regulirebis safasuris gadaxda,<br />
erTjeradad, sruli odenobiT<br />
ganxorcieldeba.<br />
amave sxdomaze ganixiles saqarTvelos<br />
kanonproeqti „eleqtronuli<br />
dokumentisa da eleqtronuli<br />
sando momsaxurebis<br />
Sesaxeb” da misgan gamomdinare<br />
kanonproeqtebi, am SemTxvevaSi<br />
ki momxsenebeli iyo saqarTvelos<br />
iusticiis ministris<br />
pirveli moadgile, aleqsandre<br />
baramiZe, romlis TqmiTac<br />
SemoTavazebuli kanonproeqtiT<br />
saqarTvelos kanonmdebloba<br />
evrokavSiris kanonmdeblobasTan<br />
modis SesabamisobaSi.<br />
eleqtronuli xelmowerisa da<br />
sxva sando momsaxurebis gamoyenebis<br />
samarTlebrivi meqanizmebi<br />
ganisazRvreba da maTi saSualebiT<br />
eleqtronul mmarTvelobas,<br />
eleqtronuli biznesis<br />
ganviTarebasa da sxva mimarTulebebs<br />
xeli Seewyoba.<br />
kanonproeqtis Tanaxmad,<br />
qveynis masStabiT eleqtronuli<br />
dokumenti da eleqtronuli<br />
sando momsaxureba ufro<br />
farTod gavrceldeba. moqmedi<br />
kanonisgan gansxvavebiT, romelic<br />
eleqtronul dokumentze<br />
uaris Tqmis saSualebas mxolod<br />
sasamarTlos uzRudavda,<br />
warmodgenili redaqcia, praqtikulad,<br />
sajaro uflebamosilebis<br />
ganmaxorcielebel organoebs<br />
avaldebulebs, uari ar<br />
Tqvas eleqtronul dokumentze<br />
mxolod im motiviT, rom<br />
is wardgenili ar aris materialuri<br />
formiT (qaRaldis saxiT).<br />
amasTan, eleqtronuli dokumentis<br />
gamoyeneba SesaZlebelia<br />
yvela im SemTxvevaSi, rodesac<br />
moiTxoveba dokumentis<br />
werilobiTi forma, Tu kanoniT<br />
sxva ram ar aris dadgenili.<br />
iusticiis ministris pirveli<br />
moadgilis gancxadebiT, axali<br />
kanonis idea swored isaa,<br />
rom eleqtronuli xelmoweris<br />
cnebas absoluturad sxvanairad<br />
iTvaliswinebs da ganmartavs.<br />
misive TqmiT, eleqtronul<br />
dokumentbrunvaSi CarTul<br />
pirebs unikalur binarul<br />
kods e. w. sando momsaxurebis<br />
mimwodebeli gadascems. rac Seexeba<br />
sando momsaxurebis mimwodebels,<br />
aleqsandre baramiZis<br />
gancxadebiT, kanoniT gawerilia,<br />
rom sando servisebis mimwodebelma<br />
avtorizacia unda<br />
gaiaros iusticiis saministros<br />
ssip monacemTa gacvlis<br />
saagentoSi.<br />
kanonproeqtis Tanaxmad, kvalificiur<br />
eleqtronul xelmoweras<br />
iseTive iuridiuli Zala<br />
aqvs, rogoric materialur<br />
dokumentze materialur xelmoweras.<br />
komitetma warmodgenil kanonproeqtTa<br />
pakets mxari dau-<br />
Wira.<br />
komitetis sxdomaze saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis mier ratificirebisTvis<br />
warmodgenili „evropis<br />
Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />
asociaciis qveynebsa da saqar-<br />
Tvelos Soris Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />
Sesaxeb” SeTanxmeba ganixiles.<br />
dokumenti saqarTvelosa da<br />
evropis Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />
asociaciis wevr qveynebs Soris<br />
(Sveicaria, lixtenStaini, islandia,<br />
norvegia) produqtebi-<br />
Ta da momsaxurebiT vaWrobis<br />
xelSewyobas iTvaliswinebs. Se-<br />
Tanxmeba, aseve, iTvaliswinebs<br />
mxareebs Soris TanamSromlobas<br />
iseTi mniSvnelovani mimarTulebebiT,<br />
rogoricaa: sursaTis<br />
uvnebloba, vaWrobis xelSewyoba,<br />
saqonlis warmoSobis<br />
wesebi, inteleqtualuri sakuTrebis<br />
dacva, Tavisufali<br />
konkurencia da sxv.<br />
amave komitetis sxdomaze<br />
kanonmdeblebma mxari dauWires<br />
mTavrobis mier warmodgenil<br />
sam saratifikacio dokuments:<br />
• „saqarTvelosa da evropis<br />
sainvesticio banks Soris finansuri<br />
xelSekruleba (saqarTvelos<br />
municipaluri infrastruqturis<br />
aRdgena);<br />
• „saqarTvelosa da aziis<br />
ganviTarebis banks Soris sasesxo<br />
SeTanxmeba (Cveulebrivi<br />
operaciebi) (urbanuli momsaxurebis<br />
gaumjobesebis sainvesticio<br />
programa _ proeqti 6);<br />
• „saqarTvelosa da evropis<br />
sainvesticio banks Soris finansuri<br />
xelSekruleba” (saqarTvelos<br />
satransporto komunikacia).<br />
komitetebis wevrebma ratificirebisTvis<br />
warmodgenil<br />
xelSekrulebebs mxari dauWires.<br />
22 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
konkretulad raze muSaoben<br />
komitetis wevrebi, amis gasarkvevad<br />
„qronika+” komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomaris pirvel moadgile<br />
paata kviJinaZes es-<br />
aubra:<br />
_ 2017 wlis saqmianobis gegmiT<br />
detalurad aris gawerili<br />
komitetis muSaobis yovelTviuri<br />
grafiki, rogorc sagazafxulo,<br />
aseve saSemodgomo sesiebisTvis.<br />
mTavari sakiTxi, romelzedac<br />
komiteti uwyvetad<br />
apirebs muSaobas, aris komitetSi<br />
Semosuli kanonproeqtebis,<br />
saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebisa<br />
da sakanonmdeblo<br />
winadadebebis ganxilva.<br />
Cveulebriv reJimSi vmuSaobT,<br />
aris kanonebi, romlebic am<br />
wuTSi muSavdeba, es aris saratifikacio,<br />
kanonebi, romlebzedac<br />
wamyvani komiteti varT,<br />
ri modeli. dekemberSi larTan<br />
dakavSirebiT bevri kanoni miviReT,<br />
am wuTSi aRniSnul process<br />
vakvirdebiT. rogorc iciT,<br />
mogebis gadasaxadis kanoni<br />
pirveli ianvridan amoqmedda<br />
da Tu rame Sesacvleli iqna da<br />
ise ar muSaobs, rogorc unda<br />
muSaobdes, ra Tqma unda, gadawyvetilebebs<br />
miviRebT, magram,<br />
am wuTSi, konkretuli araferia.<br />
cxadia, „qronika+” ufro konkretuli<br />
gegmebisa da inicirebis<br />
Sesaxeb xsenebuli komitetis<br />
sxva wevrebsac daukavSirda,<br />
rom araferi vTqvaT komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomareze, romel-<br />
Tan saubaric dedaqalaqSi misi<br />
aryofnisa da mobiluri kavSiris<br />
Seferxebis gamo ver moxerxda.<br />
aseve davukavSirdiT roman<br />
safinanso-sabiujeto komitetSi?<br />
aki zoiZem:<br />
_ ZiriTadi samuSao da yvelaze<br />
mniSvnelovani rac gavake-<br />
TeT, es iyo 2017 wlis biujet-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT. axla mimdinare<br />
iniciativebia, vTqvaT, saministroebis<br />
SarSandeli muSaobis<br />
Sefaseba da mTeli rigi<br />
saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebi.<br />
sxva raRac gansakuTrebuli<br />
iniciativa ar maxsendeba. am komitetis<br />
ZiriTadi arsic, rogorc<br />
iciT, biujetis kanonsa da<br />
angariSebze muSaobaa.<br />
_ janmrTelobis dacvisa da<br />
socialuri kuTxiT xom ar ig-<br />
egmeba raime siaxle?<br />
_ Zalian bevr rames vakeTebT,<br />
Semdeg or TveSi, sazogadoebis<br />
maRali CarTulobiT,<br />
grZelvadian strategiul xedvas<br />
CamovayalibebT jandacvisa<br />
da SromiTi urTierTobis mima-<br />
amis safuZvelze ki, erTiani Se-<br />
Tanxmebisa da SefasebiT miRebul<br />
xedvaze, ukve unda CamovayaliboT<br />
da davafuZnoT komitetis<br />
Semdegi oTxwliani samoqmedo<br />
gegma. es yvelaferi or<br />
TveSi unda gavakeToT.<br />
_ zogadi msjelobis Semdeg<br />
apirebT am gegmis Camoyalibebas,<br />
Tu ukve garkveuli xe-<br />
dva da Wrili SeimuSaveT?<br />
_ ara, sazogadoebis CarTuloba<br />
xom imas niSnavs, rom Tu<br />
yvelaferi winaswar ar gaqvs<br />
Sedgenili, maSin raRa azri<br />
aqvs CarTulobas?! ra Tqma unda,<br />
strategiuli normebi arsebobs,<br />
magram yvelaferi Sesajerebelia,<br />
sabolood SesaTanxmebelia:<br />
rogori jandacvis sistema<br />
unda gvqondes 2030 wels,<br />
ra unda iyos kerZo sadazRvevo<br />
kompaniebis roli, saxelmwi-<br />
ni SevTanxmdebiT. kargi isaa,<br />
rom politikuri amindis mixedviT<br />
ar iqneba es SeTanxmeba,<br />
radgan Cveni problema yovel-<br />
Tvis is iyo, rom 180 gradusiT<br />
vcvlidiT reformebs, roca<br />
erTi politikuri Zala meoriT<br />
icvleboda. TiTqmis 25 welia,<br />
amas kargi araferi moutania<br />
jandacvisTvis. Sesabamisad, es<br />
gasakeTebelia da mere, roca<br />
grZelvadian gegmas SevimuSavebT,<br />
gvinda, rom detalurad<br />
CamovyalibdeT sakanonmdeblo<br />
iniciativebze, am sakiTxisken<br />
mimarTul mwyobr gegmaze.<br />
_ wina wels Tu iyo iseTi<br />
ram, risi Secvlac upriani iq-<br />
neboda, magram ver moxerxda?<br />
_ ara, muSaoba axla daviwyeT,<br />
jerjerobiT, dasanani araferi<br />
gvqonia. bevri ramea Sesacvleli,<br />
dasaxvewi. rac vTqviT<br />
kanonebi, sadac savaldebulo<br />
komitets warmovadgenT. aseve<br />
vmuSaobT auditis samsaxurTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, Tu ra saxiT unda<br />
iyos warmodgenili maT mier<br />
momzadebuli masalebi da rogor<br />
SevqmnaT samuSao jgufi;<br />
rogor ufro maRal xarisxSi<br />
ava es samsaxuri safinanso-sabiujeto<br />
komitetTan. aseve gvaqvs<br />
urTierToba mTavrobasTan;<br />
sxvadasxva komisiaSi varT, sadac<br />
sapensio reforma muSavdeba,<br />
aseve aris fondebTan dakav-<br />
Sirebuli sakiTxebi da a. S.<br />
muSa procesia.<br />
_ samomavlod ramis inicir-<br />
ebas xom ar gegmavT?<br />
_ auditTan dakavSirebiT<br />
raRac sakiTxebis gadawyvetas<br />
vapirebT, magram es muSa procesia<br />
da winasar verafers vityviT.<br />
Cven umravlesoba varT,<br />
romelsac daniSnuli mTavroba<br />
hyavs da yvelaferi erToblivad<br />
xdeba. gansakuTrebul siurprizebs<br />
erTmaneTs ar vumzadebT,<br />
radgan finansTa saministro<br />
da safinanso-sabiujeto<br />
komiteti sakiTxebze erToblivad<br />
muSaobs, rac Sejerebuli<br />
gamodis dRis sinaTleze.<br />
_ wina wels xom ar iyo<br />
raime muxli an punqti, romlis<br />
Secvlac ukeTesi iqneboda da<br />
ver moaxerxeT?<br />
_ wina wels bevri kanoni miviReT,<br />
maT Soris, e. w. estonu-<br />
gociriZes, romelmac ganacxada,<br />
rom msgavs Temaze komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomares unda mivmar-<br />
ToT da, samwuxarod, komentaris<br />
gakeTeba ar isurva.<br />
Tumca aqtiurad CaerTo da<br />
„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs upasuxa<br />
safinanso-sabiujeto komi-<br />
tetis wevrma, janmrTelobis<br />
dacvisa da socialur sakiTx-<br />
Ta komitetis Tavmjdomare ak-<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
rTulebiT. ZiriTad amocanebsa<br />
da miznebze vimsjelebT da<br />
gvinda, am procesSi CavrToT<br />
yvela dainteresebuli fena,<br />
asociaciebi, saparlamento da<br />
arasaparlamento opozicia da<br />
aseTi departiuli konsensusi<br />
iyos, Tu ra unda da sad iqneba<br />
saqarTvelos SromiTi urTier-<br />
Tobebi da socialuri dacva<br />
samomavlod, vTqvaT, 2030 wels.<br />
`Zalian bevr rames vakeTebT, Semdeg or<br />
TveSi, sazogadoebis maRali<br />
CarTulobiT, grZelvadian strategiul<br />
xedvas CamovayalibebT jandacvisa da<br />
SromiTi urTierTobis mimarTulebiT.<br />
ZiriTad amocanebsa da miznebze<br />
vimsjelebT da gvinda, am procesSi<br />
CavrToT yvela dainteresebuli fena,<br />
asociaciebi, saparlamento da<br />
arasaparlamento opozicia da aseTi<br />
departiuli konsensusi iyos, Tu ra<br />
unda da sad iqneba saqarTvelos<br />
SromiTi urTierTobebi da socialuri<br />
dacva samomavlod, vTqvaT, 2030 wels.<br />
amis safuZvelze ki, erTiani SeTanxmebisa<br />
da SefasebiT miRebul xedvaze, ukve unda<br />
CamovayaliboT da davafuZnoT<br />
komitetis Semdegi oTxwliani samoqmedo<br />
gegma. es yvelaferi or TveSi unda<br />
gavakeToT~<br />
fos roli, dafinansebis sistema,<br />
rogori unda iyos samedicino<br />
xarisxi. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
grZelvadiani gegma Camoyalibdeba,<br />
romelzedac yvela-<br />
akaki zoiZe<br />
im TemasTan dakavSirebiT, axla<br />
am gegmas vayalibebT, radgan<br />
bevri samuSaoa, jandacvaze,<br />
SromiT urTierTobebze, SromiT<br />
kanonmdeblobaze. socialuri<br />
daxmarebis sistemis sakmaod<br />
mniSvnelovani reformaa<br />
saWiro, rom am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />
ukmayofileba aRar<br />
iyos. TanamSromlebma aRar unda<br />
Tqvan: ai, me SecdomiT daminiSnes<br />
naklebi xelfasi, an mekuTvnoda<br />
da ar momces.<br />
sakmaod mZime teqnikuri samuSaoebia<br />
Casatarebeli qveynis<br />
socialuri lafsusebis aRmosafxvrelad.<br />
komiteti muSaobas agrZelebs<br />
da mimdinare wels maTi kvartluri<br />
muSaobis angariSs unda<br />
velodoT.<br />
23
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
rogor malaven saministroebi<br />
„antikorufciuli politikis<br />
Tamar batiaSvili<br />
instituti” saministroebidan sa-<br />
593 61 74 15<br />
jaro informaciis gamoTxovis si-<br />
rTuleebze saubrobs da acxadebs,<br />
rom, am mxriv, saqarTveloSi katastrofuli mdgomareobaa.<br />
„qronika+”-s esaubreba „antikorufciuli<br />
politikis insti-<br />
tutis” Tavmjdomare _ vlad-<br />
imer lagvilava:<br />
_ Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT<br />
Cven ukve visaubreT saministroebis<br />
mivlinebebis xarjebze. axla<br />
yuradReba minda gavamaxvilo saministroebis<br />
midgomaze sajaro<br />
informaciis gamoTxovnasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. am mxriv sruli<br />
katastrofaa. ra informaciasac<br />
viTxovdiT, aucileblad unda<br />
warmoebdes, pirvel rigSi, es<br />
gaxlavT samivlinebo xarjebi.<br />
Cven viTxovdiT mivlinebaSi namyofi<br />
TanamSromlebis sias da<br />
TiToeul maTganze gaweul samivlinebo<br />
danaxarjs 2016 wlis pirveli<br />
ianvridan pirvel agvistomde.<br />
yvela saministros 6 agvistos<br />
werilebi gavugzavneT da<br />
samivlinebo moxsenebiTi baraTebis<br />
mixedviT mivlinebebis Sedegebs<br />
viTxovdiT, romelic unda<br />
Seicavdes Semdeg informacias:<br />
sad iyo mivlineba, qveynis SigniT<br />
Tu qveynis gareT? ra iyo mivlinebis<br />
mizani? ra iyo RonisZiebaSi<br />
qarTuli mxaris mizanSewoniloba?<br />
informacia monawileTa<br />
Sesaxeb; RonisZiebebis Sinaarsi;<br />
ra sargebeli movipoveT Cven am<br />
mivlinebiT da Semdgomi nabijebi<br />
_ rekomendaciebi Tu iyo gacemuli<br />
am yvelaferTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT? rogorc adre momzadebul<br />
masalaSi aRvniSneT, Ziri-<br />
Tadad, erTian cifrebs gvigzavnidnen.<br />
ramdenime saministrom<br />
TiToeul personaze mogvawoda<br />
informacia, zogma, magaliTad,<br />
maRali Tanamdebobis pirebsa da<br />
sxva TanamSromlebze dagvimala,<br />
saxeli da gvari ar dagviwera, magram<br />
gviTxra, rom konkretuli<br />
adamiani miunxenSi raRac vizitze<br />
iyo da amdeni daxarja. es<br />
raRac viziti zogi Cans da zogi<br />
_ ara. rac ufro katastrofulia,<br />
qveynis SigniT mivlinebebze<br />
Zalian didi Tanxebi ixarjeba.<br />
_ am sakiTxis mimarT yvelaze<br />
cudad damokidebuleba vis<br />
hqonda?<br />
_ erT-erTi yvelaze agdebu-<br />
vladimer lagvilava:<br />
`Ss saministro<br />
qveynis SigniT<br />
mivlinebebze<br />
ufro mets<br />
xarjavs, vidre<br />
qveynis gareT da<br />
aravin icis, saqmis<br />
gasakeTeblad<br />
midian, Tu<br />
eqskursiaze!~<br />
li pozicia hqonda saqarTvelos<br />
iusticiis saministros, romelmac<br />
orjer gamogvigzavna werili,<br />
rom bmulze SevsuliyaviT.<br />
bmulze rom Sedixar, informacia<br />
ganTavsebulia, magram mxolod<br />
cifrebi, vin iyo da sad iyo, ar<br />
weria.<br />
konkretul, Ss saministros<br />
magaliTze getyviT: yvelam kargad<br />
viciT, rom Tu 10 samuSao<br />
dRis vadaSi romeliRac konkretuli<br />
saxelmwifo uwyeba Cven<br />
mier moTxovnil sajaro informaciaze<br />
ar gvipasuxebs, Tu es<br />
saxelmwifo saidumloebas ar<br />
warmoadgens, ufleba gvaqvs, rom<br />
informaciis gaucemlobaze sasamarTloSi<br />
vuCivloT. amaT Semdegi<br />
xriki moZebnes _ Cven rasac<br />
viTxovT, imas ar gvigzavnian da<br />
raRac sxva informacias gvaZleven,<br />
rom ar vuCivloT. konkretul<br />
gaweril cifrebs da sakiTxs<br />
aravin gvigzavnis. am 19 saministrodan<br />
umetesobaze vsaubrob,<br />
ramdenimes gamoklebiT. xom gavagzavneT<br />
werili da detalurad<br />
CaSlili sajaro informacia moviTxoveT,<br />
amaT mTliani informacia<br />
gamogvigzavnes, viTom<br />
WkuaSi mogvatyuon, rom<br />
Semdeg sajaro informaciis<br />
gaucemlobaze problema<br />
ar iyos, magram amas<br />
ar davuSvebT! mivmar-<br />
TeT Ss saministros, pirveli<br />
werili am saministros<br />
6 agvistos gavugzavneT.<br />
am werilze<br />
Ss saministrom<br />
14 seqtembers gvipasuxa.<br />
es maTi mowerili<br />
pirveli werili<br />
iyo, sadac weren,<br />
rom Tqveni ama da am<br />
nomeri werilis pasuxad,<br />
romliTac<br />
iTxovT informaciis<br />
miwodebas Ss saministros<br />
samivlinebo<br />
xarjebis Sesaxeb,<br />
gacnobebT, rom<br />
aRniSnuli informaciis<br />
Segroveba<br />
saWiroebs sxvadasxva<br />
struqturul erTeulSi Sesabamisi<br />
monacemebis moZiebasa da<br />
damuSavebas, amdenad, pasuxi gecnobebaT<br />
informaciis moZiebisa<br />
da damuSavebisTanave. es werili<br />
mogvivida 14 seqtembers, 6 agvistodan<br />
14 seqtembramde Zalian<br />
bevri, 10 samuSao dRe aris<br />
gasuli, sul mcire, ori,<br />
anu es pirveli werilic<br />
dagvianebuli iyo, magram<br />
radgan mogvweres,<br />
cota SeiZleba fostasac<br />
davabraloT<br />
da gavCerdiT, davelodeT<br />
informacias<br />
Ss saministrodan.<br />
Semdeg gvirekaven<br />
da gveubnebian,<br />
rom TqvenTan<br />
informacia<br />
gadmogzavnilia<br />
eleqtronuli<br />
fostis meSveobiT.<br />
vamowmebT<br />
eleqtronul<br />
fostas da aranairi<br />
werili<br />
ar aris. amis<br />
Semdeg, 6 oqtombers,<br />
axal<br />
werils vamzadebT.<br />
vinc Cven<br />
mogvwera da<br />
gvipasuxa, es iyo Sss administraciis<br />
sajaro informaciis sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosis moadgile<br />
Teona kozmanaSvili da am qalbatonis<br />
saxelze, ukve, 6 oqtombers<br />
vagzavniT werils: Tqveni ama<br />
da am nomris werilis pasuxad<br />
gacnobebT, rom Cven mier moTxovnili<br />
sajaro informacia am<br />
dromde ar aris mowodebuli.<br />
gTxovT, mogvawodoT sajaro informacia<br />
fostis meSveobiT. am<br />
yvelafris Semdeg werils viRebT<br />
2016 wlis 21 dekembers. praqtikulad,<br />
6 agvistos werilze, 26<br />
dekembers mogvdis pasuxi, sadac<br />
gvweren, rom Tqveni werilis pasuxad<br />
gigzavniT Ss saministros<br />
ekonomikuri departamentis mier<br />
mowodebul monacemebs Tanam-<br />
SromelTa samivlinebo xarjebis<br />
Sesaxeb. aqve gacnobebT, rom<br />
Tqven mier moTxovnili sxva informaciiT,<br />
Ss saministro aRricxvas<br />
ar awarmoebs. Ss saministro<br />
pirdapir geubneba, rom<br />
moxsenebiT baraTebs mivlinebebis<br />
Sesaxeb ar vawarmoebTo! Tan<br />
weren, danarTs gaecaniTo. ra<br />
aris axla es erTi furceli _ es<br />
aris sazogadoebis sruli dacinva!<br />
sazogadoeba SehyavT SecdomaSi,<br />
weren, rom es aris 2015<br />
wlis pirveli, meore da mesame<br />
kvartlis monacemebi, jer erTi<br />
_ Cven mesame kvartlis monacemebi<br />
ar mogviTxovia, meore _ samad<br />
gayofil patara grafaSi weria:<br />
qveynis SigniT mivlineba,<br />
ramdeni daixarja Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebze da ramdeni daixarja<br />
sxva TanamSromlebze. qveynis gareT<br />
ramdeni daixarja Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebze, ramdeni daixarja<br />
sxva TanamSromlebze. es aris<br />
sul is informacia, romlis mowodebasac<br />
6 Tve dasWrda.<br />
_ ra daskvna gamoitaneT am<br />
informaciidan, ramdens xarjavs<br />
mivlinebebSi Ss saministro?<br />
_ aqac Zalian saintereso informacias<br />
wavawydiT: rogorc<br />
Ss saministro gvwers, qveynis<br />
SigniT mivlinebebze Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebma daxarjes, samive kvartalSi,<br />
148 639,15 lari, Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebma, daaxloebiT, 7-<br />
8 TveSi daxarjes 150 000 lari<br />
qveynis SigniT mivlinebebze. es<br />
niSnavs, rom am adamianebs calke<br />
manqanebi hyavT, benzini da a. S.,<br />
romelic ar Sedis samivlinebo<br />
24<br />
24 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
sajaro informacias?!<br />
xarjebSi da mainc amxela danaxarjia.<br />
Ss saministros sxva TanamSromlebi,<br />
qveynis SigniT sami<br />
kvartlis monacemebiT, xarjaven<br />
1 848 788, 28 lars, TiTqmis, or<br />
milions. jamurad: Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebma da sxva TanamSromlebma<br />
or milion larze meti qveynis<br />
SigniT daxarjes 8 TveSi. es kolosaluri<br />
cifria qveynis SigniT<br />
daxarjul mivlinebebze. kargad<br />
viciT, rom policia da Ss<br />
saministros uwyebebi yvela raionSia<br />
da ra iares ori milionis,<br />
Zalian sainteresoa! rac Seexeba<br />
qveynis gareT mivlinebebs, Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebma 425 129,49 lari<br />
daxarjes, TiTqmis naxevari<br />
milioni lari, xolo sxva Tanam-<br />
Sromlebma 394 516,55 lari. jamurad:<br />
qveynis gareT, ra Tqma unda,<br />
ufro metad eqskursiaze iyvnen<br />
Tanamdebobis pirebi, xolo<br />
sxva TanamSromlebi SedarebiT<br />
naklebad; rom qveynis gareT mivlinebebze<br />
ufro metia daxarjuli,<br />
vidre qveynis SigniT. rac<br />
mTavaria, jamurad, Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebma sam kvartalSi, qveynis<br />
SigniT da qveynis gareT, mivlinebebSi<br />
daxarjes 573 768,64, anu<br />
naxevar milion larze meti, xolo<br />
sxva TanamSromlebma qveynis<br />
SigniT da qveynis gareT 2 243<br />
304,83 lari, sul 3 milion laramdea<br />
daxarjuli mivlinebebSi,<br />
magram mxolod Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi da sxva TanamSromlebi<br />
weria. es TanamSromlebi konkretuli<br />
masalebis mosaZieblad<br />
wavidnen baTumSi. isvenebdnen Tu<br />
ara monakoSi, kaciSvilma ar icis<br />
da Tanxa CvenTvis ucnob Tanam-<br />
Sromlebzea daxarjuli. isic<br />
Zalian kargad viciT, rom saqme<br />
exeba Zalovan uwyebas, Sesabamisad,<br />
SeiZleba raRac nawili gasaidumloebuli<br />
iyos, magram informaciis<br />
sruli moculoba sajaroa.<br />
rac yvelaze mTavaria, isini<br />
samarcxvino mdgomareobaSi<br />
igdeben Tavs!<br />
kidev erTi detali: Cven es<br />
werili, saboloo jamSi, 21 dekembriT<br />
daTariRebuli miviReT.<br />
minda, sazogadoebam aucileblad<br />
icodes, rom es werili 21<br />
dekembers ar Cagvvardnia xelSi,<br />
Torem aqamde Tqveni meSveobiT<br />
ukve davwerdiT. es werili 21<br />
dekembriT aris daTariRebuli,<br />
magram realurad ianvarSi avi-<br />
ReT: Ss saministros warmomadgeneli<br />
dagvikavSirda, 19 saministros<br />
Cven mier aTasobiT gamo-<br />
Txovil sajaro informaciaze<br />
werilis gamogzavnis problema<br />
ar hqonia, amaT gviTxres, rom<br />
ver gigzavniT, ukan gvibruneben<br />
da iqneb, Tqven TviTon waiRoTo.<br />
Cven TviTon veaxeliT Ss saministros<br />
specialur ganyofleba-<br />
Si da Cvenive xeliT wamoviReT es<br />
werili. miT umetes, rom konvertze<br />
miTiTebulia Cveni organizaciis<br />
dasaxeleba, organizaciis<br />
Tavmjdomaris saxeli, misamarTi<br />
da telefonis nomeri. rogorc<br />
Cans, esec Ss saministros<br />
axali xrikia, rom mere problema<br />
ar yofiliyo. miT umetes, „an-<br />
tikorufciuli kvlevis institutis”<br />
aqtiuroba aseT sakiTxebSi<br />
ician. adrec aRvniSne da<br />
kidev erTxel vityvi, rom Cven ar<br />
varT Casafrebul poziciaSi, rom<br />
fexi gadaubrundeT da amiT raRac<br />
minusebi davuweroT, Sesabamisad,<br />
arc erTi saministrosTvis<br />
sasamarTloSi ar gviCivlia, magram<br />
Tqveni gazeTisa da sxva mediasaSulebebiT<br />
mudmivad vcdilobT,<br />
mivawodoT informacia,<br />
rom isini Secdomas uSveben!<br />
gulwrfelad gvikvirs, rom amis<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
Sexseneba sWirdebaT, demokratiis<br />
pirobebSi sazogadoebis erTaderTi<br />
movaleobaa kontroli da<br />
monitoringi gauwios xelisuflebis<br />
saqmianobas, xolo xelisuflebis<br />
erTaderTi movaleobaa _<br />
Riad da gamWvirvaled warmar-<br />
Tos Tavisi saqmianoba, rac, am<br />
etapze, namdvilad ar xdeba. xelisuflebis<br />
saqmianobaze monitoringis<br />
gaweva gansakuTrebulad<br />
mniSvnelovania Cvennairi<br />
qveynisTvis, anu iseTi qveynis-<br />
Tvis, romelsac mwiri finansuri<br />
resursebi aqvs, aseve mniSvnelovania<br />
misi mizanmimarTuleba da<br />
normalurad xarjva. amitom sazogadoebas<br />
ufleba aqvs, icodes<br />
sajaro dawesebulebebSi dasaqmebuli<br />
pirebis vinaoba, sakontaqto<br />
informacia, xelfasi, premia,<br />
mivlinebaSi yofnis xarjebi<br />
da a. S. es Cven mier gadaxdili<br />
gadasaxadebiT ifareba, biujet-<br />
Si Setanili fuliT da ara maTi<br />
mama-papis mier datovebuli qonebiT.<br />
rogorc wesi, sajaro dawesebulebebsa<br />
da maT xelmZRvanelebs<br />
unda ainteresebdeT am<br />
monacemebis gamWvirvaloba da<br />
Riaoba, magram rogor ainteresebT,<br />
kargad vxedavT. sajaro<br />
informaciis gacemas xels ki ar<br />
unda uSlidnen, piriqiT, xels<br />
unda uwyobdnen, magram es imis<br />
eWvs iwvevs, rom yvelaferi kargad<br />
ar aris da raRac irRveva.<br />
Ss saministros es konkretuli<br />
magaliTi amis dadasturebaa. arc<br />
erT saministros ar hqonia moxsenebiTi<br />
baraTebi, miT umetes,<br />
vizaliberalizaciis Semdeg.<br />
Tavisuflad SeuZliaT CabrZandnen<br />
evropis qveynebSi, mimarTon<br />
maT saministroebs da naxaven,<br />
rom amis warmoeba saWiroa, miT<br />
umetes, rodesac mivlinebaSi uSveb<br />
konkretul TanamSromels.<br />
magaliTad, arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />
egidiT rodesac mivdivar<br />
mivlinebaSi, miuxedevad imisa,<br />
rom ufrosi ar myavs, romelsac<br />
angariSi unda Cavabaro, Cem-<br />
Tvis vwer angariSs, rom ama da<br />
am Sexvedraze viyavi, vin eswrebodnen,<br />
ra Sedegi gamoiRo da a.<br />
S. es unda keTdebodes, miT umetes,<br />
rodesac saxelmwifo fuliT<br />
finansdebi da rodesac qveynis<br />
interesebi unda gatardes.<br />
TiTqmis darwmunebuli varT,<br />
rom amdagvari dokumenti arc<br />
erT saministros saerTod ar<br />
gaaCnia da kompetenturad miviCnevT<br />
Tavs, rom am mizanSewonilobis<br />
Sesaxeb SevaxsenoT, romelic<br />
daadasturebda mivlinebebis<br />
mizanSewonilobas, xolo xarjebis<br />
Sesaxeb informacia ar<br />
gaaCenda arc erT kiTxvas.<br />
_ ras apirebT?<br />
_ axla vapirebT, im monacemebze,<br />
romelzedac gesaubreT, yvela<br />
saministroSi axlidan gavagzavnoT<br />
werilebi. ukve gamoviTxovT<br />
mTeli wlis informacias,<br />
rom sazogadoebis winaSe es yvelaferi<br />
sajarod gamovitanoT<br />
da aqve, Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT,<br />
saxelmwifo uwyebebs vafrTxilebT<br />
_ ar Seecadon da Tavi<br />
ar aaridon Cven mier moTxovnil<br />
sajaro informaciaze pasuxs. es<br />
xrikebi CvenTan aRar gauvaT, maqsimalurad<br />
SevecadeT, rom xelisuflebis<br />
mimarT loialurebi<br />
vyofiliyaviT, ar gavqceulvarT<br />
sasamarTloSi da xelmeored mivwereT,<br />
kidev, ras gvipasuxeben. es<br />
iqneba bolo, rodesac am informacias<br />
sajarod gamoviTxovT, aseve<br />
gamoviTxovT sajaro samsaxuris<br />
TanamSromlebze gacemuli<br />
xelfasebis, premiebisa da danamatebis<br />
Sesaxeb mTeli wlis informacias.<br />
Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT<br />
vapirebT, rom sazogadoebam farTod<br />
naxos es yvelaferi, magram<br />
Tu sajaro informaciis srulad<br />
gacemasTan dakavSirebiT raime<br />
xrikebi, Semaferxebeli detalebi<br />
iqneba da informacias srulad<br />
ar mogvcemen, ukve aRar vapirebT<br />
gaCerebas da, sazogadoebis<br />
interesebidan gamomdinare,<br />
sasamarTloSi vibrZolebT.<br />
25
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`rusTavi 2~, aqciebi<br />
samauwyeblo kompania „rusTavi<br />
laSa berulava<br />
2"-ze xelisuflebis ieriSis ganax-<br />
577 20 86 13<br />
lebis molodini sazogadoebaSi<br />
kidev ufro SesamCnevi mas Semdeg<br />
gaxda, rac, savaraudod, specsamsaxurebis, an maTTan afilire-<br />
buli jgufis mier tanjva-wamebiT damontaJebuli satelefono<br />
Canawerebi gamoqveynda, xolo xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma,<br />
erTi SexedviT, daujerebeli da wamgebiani Tema Semoagdes _<br />
mosamarTleebisTvis d. sayvareliZis xelmoweriT ukrainidan<br />
miRebuli amanaTi, SantaJis weriliT da, aseve, mixeil saakaS-<br />
vilisa da igive d. sayvareliZis vaiber-mimowera, sadac isini<br />
mosamarTleebisTvis qrTamis gadacemaze „saubroben”.<br />
yvelaze naTeli pasuxi am absurdis<br />
Teatrs daviT sayvareliZem<br />
gasca, roca ganacxada, _<br />
vaiberSi mimowera rad mindoda,<br />
me da saakaSvili gverdigverd<br />
oTaxebSi vsxedvarTo, magram xelisuflebas<br />
logika rodis hyvarebia,<br />
axla rom Seyvareboda?<br />
hoda, am ankesze bevri ar wamoego,<br />
bevri ki _ piriqiT. Tumca<br />
ankesze wamogebulTa Soris<br />
masze TavianTi nebiT wamogebulebi<br />
rom sWarboben, eWvs ar iwvevs<br />
_ is adamianebi, romlebsac<br />
Zalian kargad aqvT gacnobierebuli<br />
am versiebisa da Worebis<br />
absurduloba, magram valdebuleba<br />
aqvT, xelisuflebis msgavsi,<br />
absurduli xrikebi „gaapravon”<br />
da Savze Tqvan, TeTriao,<br />
iqamdec ki davidnen, rom ramdenjerme<br />
„kurierSi” nika gvaramias<br />
monawileobiT saxeldaxelod Seqmnili<br />
da gayalbebuli mimowera,<br />
aseve, sxvadasxva dros naTqvami<br />
frazebis SekowiwebiT miRebuli<br />
e. w. satelefono saubari TavianT<br />
sasargeblod da imis samtkiceblad<br />
gamoiyenes, aqaoda, nika<br />
gvaramiam amiT aRiara, rom Canawerebisa<br />
da mimoweris damontaJeba-gayalbeba<br />
SeuZliao...<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is dacvis aucileblobaze<br />
sazogadoebis didi<br />
nawili ukve karga xania, SeTanxmebulia.<br />
es araerTxel gamovlinda:<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is SesasvlelTan,<br />
mere ki ezoSi gamarTuli aqciebis<br />
dros, sxvadasxva instanciis<br />
sasamarTlos ezoebSi, drodadro<br />
rom „zonder-politpatimrebs”<br />
uqsevda xelisufleba, arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebis er-<br />
Toblivi gancxadebebiT da saer-<br />
TaSoriso diplomatiuri korpusis<br />
araorazrovani, mkafio mesijebiT,<br />
rom „rusTavi 2"-is xelyofa<br />
dauSvebelia.<br />
amis miuxedavad, xelisufleba<br />
agrZelebda da agrZelebs<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg brZolas<br />
ise, rom winaswari molodini,<br />
ama Tu im dasaxelebul TariRze<br />
„rusTavi 2"-Si Sevlen, am<br />
dromde, arsebobs, Tumca ar mar-<br />
Tldeba _ es TariRi samomavlod<br />
iwevs da iwevs. rasakvirvelia, xelisufleba<br />
am molodins mizanmimarTulad<br />
aCens, rom mere ar<br />
gamarTldes da TiTze daixvios,<br />
_ ai, arafersac ar vapirebT, cru<br />
gangaSiao.<br />
wesiT da rigiT, ramdenime<br />
gacruebuli SeWra, waReba Tu<br />
sxvisTvis gadacema, sazogadoebaSi<br />
am Temis gaubraloebas, sifxizlis<br />
modunebas unda iwvevdes,<br />
26<br />
rogorc „mgeli, mgelis” moyvirali<br />
mwyemsis SemTxvevaSi moxda,<br />
magram piriqiTaa _ sazogadoebis<br />
momlodine nawilis reaqcia<br />
jerac mkveTri da myisieria, mzadyofna<br />
_ TvalSi sacemi da esec<br />
xelisuflebis „damsaxurebaa”,<br />
radgan sazogadoebis am nawilma<br />
Zalian kargad icis, ra meTodebi<br />
aqvT mmarTvelobis zeda eSelonebSi<br />
da razea gaTvlili<br />
vertikalis moqmedebebi.<br />
sxva Temaa gadafarvis politika.<br />
rasakvirvelia, arc aseTi Temebi<br />
ileva da, pirvel rigSi, amaze<br />
biZina ivaniSvili zrunavs,<br />
romelmac titisa da magnoliis<br />
Semdeg axla guriaSi, natanebSi<br />
fesvebgadgmul aswlovan muxeba<br />
da sxva iSviaTi jiSis xeebs daadga<br />
Tvali.<br />
rogorc „qronika+”-is wyaro<br />
ambobs, natanebSi, visac ki ezoSi<br />
aswlovani, an meti asakis xeebi<br />
edga, ivaniSvilis „krikunebi”<br />
yvelgan mividnen da xeebis patronebs<br />
soliduri, macduri<br />
garigeba SesTavazes, rasac isedac<br />
Sav dReSi myofi mosaxleoba<br />
advilad dasTanxmda.<br />
es arcaa gasakviri, radgan xe<br />
mxolod SeSad da mosaCrdileblad<br />
Tu gamodgeba _ sakvebad is<br />
uvargisi da gamouyenebelia, mosaxleobis<br />
didi nawilis problema<br />
ki ojaxis gamokvebaa _ maT Soris,<br />
cxadia, asea natanebSic. amitomac<br />
ivaniSvilis kurierebi<br />
dadian da maT sarfian garigebas<br />
sTavazoben, xolo sadac mosaxleoba<br />
ar cxovrobs, im teritoriidan<br />
xeebs sulac ubodiSod<br />
da ufasod ezidebian, magaliTad,<br />
natanebis yofili Cais fabrikidan,<br />
saidanac xeebi gaaqvT,<br />
sanacvlod arafers rgaven (jerjerobiT,<br />
mainc), mosaxleobas ki<br />
eubnebian, am xeebis sanacvlod<br />
ivaniSvili italiidan iwers xeebs,<br />
romlebsac aq davrgavT da<br />
skversac gavaSenebTo.<br />
es Temebi, cxadia, natanebidanac<br />
Jonavs „feisbuqze”, sadac iwyeba<br />
qiliki, lanZRva, gineba da<br />
dacinva. es ki, ra Tqma unda, mTavari<br />
Temisgan mowyvetas da yuradRebis<br />
sxva mimarTulebiT mobilizebas<br />
iwvevs, anu „rusTavi 2"-<br />
is Tema ukana planze gadadis.<br />
igive SeiZleba iTqvas sapatriarqos<br />
bolodroindel skandalzec,<br />
Tumca am sensitiur sakiTxSi<br />
jerac bevri ramaa burusiT<br />
moculi da sanam oficialuri<br />
ganmartebebi ar gakeTdeba<br />
rogorc xelisuflebis, aseve<br />
sapatriarqos warmomadgenelTa<br />
mxridan, cota Znelia versiebze<br />
saubari. erTi ram naTelia,<br />
rom qorepiskoposi „rusTavi<br />
2"-Tan satelefono saubarSi arc<br />
uaryofs da arc adasturebs patriarqis<br />
SesaZlo mowamvlas _<br />
ambobs, rom SekiTxvebs mogvianebiT,<br />
TbilisSi Camosvlis Semdeg<br />
gascems pasuxs.<br />
arsebobs, aseve, yuradRebis<br />
gadasatani sxva, wvril-wvrili<br />
Temebic, rogorebicaa jejelavasa<br />
da zaqaria qucnaSvilis gancxadebebi,<br />
SigadaSig ki marTvadi<br />
saparlamento opoziciis replikebi<br />
(magaliTad, ada marSaniasi).<br />
aris kidev erTi Tema, romelic<br />
zogs aqtualur problemad<br />
miaCnia, zogs ki swored „rusTavi<br />
2"-is Temis miCqmalvisa da ukana<br />
planze gadawevis mcdelobad _<br />
sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli da<br />
mis garSemo mimdinare procesebi,<br />
romelsac ucnaurad mieba memarcxene<br />
organizaciebis gamosvlebi<br />
mSromelTa uflebebis<br />
dasacavad lozungiT „qarxnebi<br />
muSebs”. gasuli kviris bolos am<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgenel-<br />
Ta SeWra sazmaus Senobis foieSi<br />
da maTi daJinebuli moTxovniT<br />
„moambeSi” pirdapiri eTeris<br />
miReba, Semdeg ki gancxadebaSi,<br />
saerTodac, „rusTavi 2"-is arxseneba<br />
swored amaze mianiSnebs...<br />
es da kidev sxva gadasafari<br />
Temebi, savaraudod, momavalSic<br />
gamoCndeba. „rusTavi 2"-is garSemo<br />
yulfi viwrovdeba, Tumca<br />
jer dadgenili ar aris, rodis<br />
gamoacxadebs gadawyvetilebas<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlo. 10-15 Tebervali,<br />
TiTqos, is periodi unda<br />
yofiliyo, roca gadawyvetileba<br />
unda gasajarovebuliyo,<br />
magram es jerac ar momxdara da<br />
rogorc irkveva, karga xans arc<br />
moxdeba, radgan jer mosamarTleebic<br />
ki ar SeurCeviaT...<br />
swored aseT situaciaSi, dRes<br />
da axla, Zalian didi mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs saprotesto gamosvlebs<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is mxardasaWerad.<br />
rac mTavaria, am aqciaze isinic<br />
ki unda mividnen, visac „rusTavi<br />
2" maincdamainc ar moswons, magram<br />
kargad icis, rom misi daxurviT<br />
an sxvisTvis (xelisuflebasTan<br />
afilirebuli pirebisTvis)<br />
gadacemiT safrTxis qveS<br />
dgeba misi piradi keTildReobac,<br />
radgan mediis nebismieri xelyofa<br />
imis momaswavebelia, rom<br />
xelisufleba nebismieri gansxvavebuli<br />
azris CaxSobas cdilobs,<br />
rac, adre Tu gvian, moqalaqesac<br />
Seexeba (Tu ar gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />
rom ukve exeba<br />
kidec, magaliTad, mosmenebis<br />
Sesaxeb kanoniT).<br />
10 Tebervals gamarTuli aqcia-msvleloba<br />
„rusTavi 2"-isa<br />
da sazmaus mxardasaWerad bevri<br />
faqtoriT iyo mniSvnelovani. pirvel<br />
rigSi imiT, rom es iyo<br />
pirveli erToblivi aqcia, romelic<br />
axlad Seqmnil sakoordinacio<br />
sabWoSi Semavalma politikurma<br />
organizaciebma gamarTes.<br />
am organizaciaSi, saerTo<br />
jamSi, 8 politikuri gaerTianeba<br />
Sevida, maT Soris, enm, edp,<br />
afxazTa kreba da sxvebi.<br />
swored maTi inciativa iyo,<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos mier gadawyvetilebis<br />
gamocxadebis savaraudo<br />
SualedSi (10-15 Tebervali)<br />
erTi aqcia Catarebuliyo.<br />
amiT sabWo Zalebsac mosinjavda<br />
da, rasakvirvelia, saqmec gakeTdeboda.<br />
aqciis aTvlis wertilad<br />
rusTavelis Zeglis mimdebare<br />
teritoria iqca _ swored<br />
aq moiyares Tavi sxvadasxva plakatiT<br />
„SeiaraRebulma” demonstrantebma.<br />
Tavdapirvelad aqcias<br />
adgilze xelmZRvanelobd-<br />
26 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
da gadasafari Temebi<br />
Tavisufali da alternatiuli<br />
sityva, rasac dRes warmoadgens<br />
„rusTavi 2". bunebrivia, mTeli<br />
sazogadoeba dairazmeba da ivaniSvili<br />
aucileblad damarcxdeba”,<br />
_ ganacxada gia baramiZem.<br />
„ivaniSvili „rusTavi 2"-s epotineba,<br />
is abuCad igdebs sazogadoebas,<br />
xalxs, magram darwmunebuli<br />
var, es ar gamouva”, _ Tqva<br />
koba xabazma.<br />
„rom ara es televizia, dRes<br />
qveyanaSi Zalian bevr adamians ar<br />
ecodineboda, ra qveyanaSi vcxovrobT.<br />
„rusTavi 2" aris xalxis<br />
televizia. xelisufleba moqmedebs,<br />
rom Tavisufali azri<br />
da sityva CaaxSos. „rusTavi 2" sazogadoebas<br />
ekuTvnis. rodesac<br />
sityvis Tavisuflebis CaxSobis<br />
mcdelobaa, sazogadoeba mSvidobiani<br />
protestiT iwyebs moqmedebas<br />
am mankieri praqtikis<br />
mimarT. dRevandeli dRe ivaniSvilis<br />
gafrTxilebaa. biZina ivaniSvils<br />
signals vugzavniT, rom<br />
xeli aiRos „rusTavi 2"-is saxl-<br />
nen enm-elebi: akaki minaSvili,<br />
zurab meliqiSvili da koba xabazi,<br />
mere ki nika melia, baCuki qardava,<br />
paata daviTaia, malxaz pataraia<br />
da sxvebic gamoCndnen.<br />
pirveli, rac aSkarad gecemodaT<br />
TvalSi, arademonstranti<br />
moqalaqeebis Rimilnarevi reaqcia<br />
iyo im plakatebis danaxvaze,<br />
razec adre agresias ar malavdnen:<br />
„ivaniSvilo, Senamdec movalT!”<br />
„xelebi Sors „rusTavi 2"-<br />
isgan da „sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblisgan!”,<br />
„Tavdacvidan _ Setevaze!”<br />
„rusTavi 2" Cemia!” _ es<br />
plakatebis arasruli CamonaTvalia.<br />
msvlelobis dawyebamde adgilze<br />
saimedod SefuTuli dramerebi<br />
mividnen, romlebic demonstracias<br />
musikalurad aformebdnen<br />
da, kacma rom Tqvas, situacias<br />
Zalian karg muxtsa da<br />
draivs hmatebdnen. musikaluri<br />
ganwyoba da detalebi am aqcias<br />
imdenadac ki daebeda, rom ukve<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Senobas-<br />
Tan gadanacvlebulebma, zaza<br />
bibilaSvilma, irakli ColoyaSvilma,<br />
gia Wanturiam da rusudan<br />
cirekiZem „mravalJamieric” ki<br />
dascxes, rac enm-dan wasuli<br />
„gamijnulebisTvis”, ratomRac,<br />
qilikis safuZvlad iqca...<br />
aqciis dawyebisTanave mcire<br />
kamaTi moxda sapatrulo policiis<br />
warmomadgenlebsa da enm-s<br />
liderebs Soris. kamaTi gzis<br />
gadaketvas exeboda. Tavdapirveli<br />
SeTanxmebiT, demonstrantebs<br />
mxolod rusTavelis gamziris<br />
savali gzis erTi zoli unda<br />
gadaeketaT, magram maT mTlianad<br />
gamzirze gaSla moindomes, rasac<br />
policielebi ewinaaRmdegebodnen:<br />
„xom SevTanxmdiT” wamoZaxiliT.<br />
sabolood, yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />
dasrulda, rusTavelze<br />
manqanebis gadaadgileba paralizebuli<br />
ar iyo da sapatrulo<br />
policiis TanamSromlebic TavianTi<br />
videoTvalis kamerebiT<br />
aqciis gadaRebaze gadavidnen.<br />
aqcias iRebdnen gamvleli manqanebidanac.<br />
„ra xdeba?” _ kiTxulobda<br />
zogi, xolo pasuxis<br />
miRebis Semdeg, mowonebis niSnad,<br />
cers maRla wevdnen. mogvianebiT,<br />
igive ganmeorda laRiZisa da<br />
griboedovis quCebzec, sadac<br />
moqalaqeebi maRaziebidan da<br />
marketebidan gamodiodnen da,<br />
marTalia, aqcias ar uerTdebodnen,<br />
magram maTi monawileebis<br />
mimarT solidarobas RimiliTa<br />
da xelis qneviT gamoxatavdnen _<br />
esec erTgvari deteqtori iyo,<br />
rom aqcias bevri uWerda mxars.<br />
aqciis msvlelobis dros komentarebi<br />
enm-s liderebma da sakoordinacio<br />
sabWos wevrebma<br />
gaakeTes:<br />
„darwmunebuli var, Cveni mravali<br />
aTasi da milioni Tanamoqalaqis<br />
saxeliT gamovxatavT<br />
protests ivaniSvilis moRalateobrivi<br />
politikis mimarT,<br />
romelsac unda, rom es qveyana<br />
raRac warmonaqmnad aqcios da<br />
ara saxelmwifod, sadac ar aris<br />
Si waRebisgan”, _ ganacxada nika<br />
meliam aqciaze.<br />
edp-s Tavmjdomare baCuki<br />
qardavam msvlelobis monawileebsa<br />
da uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
SenobasTan Sekrebilebs „Tavisuflebis<br />
mecixovneebi” uwoda:<br />
„Tavs nu movityuebT, „rus-<br />
Tavi 2" ar aris Tavisufali televizia<br />
im gagebiT, rom „giJi Tavisufalia”.<br />
msoflioSi yvela<br />
cnobil mediasaSualebas aqvs Tavisi<br />
saredaqcio politika, Tavisi<br />
prioritetebi da „rusTavi 2"-<br />
is arseboba im saxiT, ra saxiTac<br />
dRes arsebobs, aucilebelia qveynis<br />
ganviTarebisTvis”, _ aRniSna<br />
man. da kidev erTi detali:<br />
demonstrantebs Soris ramdenimem<br />
enm-s liderebs „barem sololakze<br />
asvla” SesTavaza, magram<br />
maT es winadadeba Tavazianad uaryves<br />
da momavali kviris dasawyisidan<br />
axali aqciebi daaanonses.<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
27
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
WATER & POWER<br />
rogorc vatyob, kompania water<br />
neli vardiaSvili<br />
& power-i mosaxleobis aqciebs ver<br />
597 11 12 47<br />
ascdeba. Tbilisis mersac mouwevs<br />
pasuxis gacema dedaqalaqis im mcx-<br />
ovreblebisTvis, romelTac es kompania, ukve Zalian xSirad,<br />
wylis gareSe tovebs. sazogadoebaSi bevri kiTxvis niSani gaCn-<br />
da maT saqmianobasTan dakavSirebiT. erT-erTi ki aseTia:<br />
GWP garigebebSi imyofeba ma-<br />
RaziebSi gasayidad gamotanili<br />
sasmeli wylis gamyidvel sawarmoebTan<br />
da imis gamo, rom Tbilisis<br />
sxvadasxva regionSi boTlis<br />
wyali gaiyidos da misi Camomsxmelebi<br />
gamdidrdnen, mosaxleobas<br />
onkanidan wamosul wyals<br />
sanatrels uxdis. braldeba seriozulia,<br />
Tumca mosaxleobis<br />
xma im struqturebs, ratomRac,<br />
ar esmiT, romelTac xelewifebaT<br />
da wesiT, dainteresebulnic<br />
unda iyvnen amgvari sakiTxebis<br />
garkveviT da danaSaulis gamovleniT.<br />
samarTaldamcvelebisTvis<br />
xalxis problemebi umniSvneloa,<br />
mTavaria, xelisuflebas<br />
da mis wevrebs araferi gauWirdeT.<br />
ai, narmania ki aSkara SarSia.<br />
kokidan Camosuli Tbilisis meri<br />
marTalia, siamtkbilur kav-<br />
Sirebs GWP-sTan uaryofs, magram<br />
aviwydeba, rom misi vizitebi<br />
am kompaniaSi xalxisTvis cnobilia...<br />
bolo ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />
vazisubanSi, korpusebis<br />
mcxovreblebs, wyali SeferxebebiT<br />
miewodebaT _ kviraSi ramdenjerme,<br />
moulodnelad, wydeba da<br />
zogjer, 12 saaTis, an ufro xangrZlivi<br />
drois Semdeg modis.<br />
kompaniis e. w. cxeli xazi gamwarebul<br />
xalxs yovelTvis erTsa<br />
da imaves pasuxobs: dazianebaa,<br />
mimdinareobs saremonto samuSaoebi,<br />
brigada gasulia, muSaobs,<br />
rac, xSir SemTxvevaSi, tyuilia,<br />
radgan mosaxleobam ukve gaarkvia,<br />
rom wylis Sewyvetis dros,<br />
28<br />
`am dReebSi informacia gavrcelebula, rom<br />
`Tbilisis merma, daviT narmaniam,<br />
moadgileebTan da meriis samsaxurebis<br />
warmomadgenlebTan erTad kompania `jorjian<br />
uoTer end faueris~ wyalmomaragebis obieqtebi<br />
daaTvaliera. turis farglebSi stumrebma,<br />
RrmaRelis saTavo nageboba, safiltre sadguri<br />
da wylis xarisxis kontrolis centraluri<br />
laboratoria moinaxules, sadac sasmeli wylis<br />
kontroli 24-saaTian reJimSi mimdinareobs.<br />
maT, aseve, unikaluri mobiluri laboratoria<br />
daaTvalieres, romelic dRes regionis<br />
masStabiT erTaderTia. kompaniis mobilur<br />
laboratoriaSi adgilze Catarebuli kvlevebis<br />
saSualebiT arasawarmo da sawarmoo<br />
dawesebulebebidan wyalarinebis koleqtorSi<br />
Camdinare wylis kontroli xorcieldeba.<br />
stumrebma moinaxules: saguramos satumbo<br />
sadguri, nataxtris wyalSemkrebi nageboba,<br />
Jinvalis wyalsacavi da axali<br />
hidroeleqtrosadguri `saguramohesi~. `jorjian<br />
uoTer end faueris~ mxridan meriis<br />
warmomadgenlebis vizits uZRvebodnen: arCil<br />
gaCeCilaZe - GGU jgufis aRmasrulebeli<br />
direqtori; giorgi cxadaZe - kompaniis<br />
generaluri direqtori; ekaterine beriZe -<br />
komunikaciisa da korporaciuli momsaxurebis<br />
direqtori; irakli babuxadia - komerciuli<br />
direqtori; mamuka kikaliSvili - operaciebis<br />
marTvis direqtori; Tamar nikuraZe -<br />
centraluri laboratoriis ufrosi da<br />
kompaniis menejmentis warmomadgenlebi. vizitis<br />
mimdinareobisas `jorjian uoTer end faueris~<br />
xelmZRvanelebma, qalaqis merTan da meriis<br />
warmomadgenlebTan erTad, kompaniis samomavlo<br />
gegmebsa da sainvesticio proeqtebis<br />
umniSvnelovanes mimarTulebebze isaubres.<br />
kompania msgavs Sexvedrebs samomavlodac<br />
gaagrZelebs~<br />
aRniSnul ubnebSi, GWP-is warmomadgenlebi<br />
aranair samuSaoebs<br />
ar asruleben. samagierod, am<br />
dros didi muSaoba CaRdeba ma-<br />
RaziebSi, radgan warmatebiT iyideba<br />
boTlis wyali. yofila<br />
SemTxvevebi, roca, onkanis wylis<br />
Sewyvetis Semdeg, konkretuli<br />
ubnis arc erT maRaziaSi gasayidi<br />
wyali aRar darCenila da gamyidvelebs<br />
uTqvamT, kompaniebs<br />
ukve SevatyobineT da distributorebi,<br />
sadac aris, sasmeli wylis<br />
axal partias Semoitaneno.<br />
isic gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />
maRaziebSi wyals is xalxi yidulobs,<br />
visac amis saSualeba, jer<br />
kidev, aqvs, magram ucnobia, rogor<br />
iqcevian aseT dros uwylod<br />
darCenili is moqalaqeebi, romlebic<br />
Semosavlis TiToeul<br />
TeTrs gamozomilad xarjaven,<br />
raTa puri mainc SeiZinon da mSivrebi<br />
ar darCnen. SeiZleba, zogierTs<br />
es sityvebi paTetikadac<br />
moeCvenos, magram umuSevarTa,<br />
usaxlkaroTa, devnilTa, gaWirvebulTa,<br />
siRaribis zRvars miRma<br />
myofTa, urnebSi saWmlis mZebnelTa<br />
grZel sias kidev erTxel<br />
Tu gadaavleben Tvals, kargi<br />
iqneba, radgan imedia, ase ufro<br />
mivxdebian, rom am adamianebis<br />
bedi aravis anaRvlebs.<br />
erT dRes, rodesac onkanSi<br />
wyali kvlav xangrZlivi droiT<br />
Sewyda da wylis SesaZenad „karfurs”<br />
mivadeqi, iciT, ra vnaxe?<br />
_ iq ukve 40-litriani balonebiT<br />
iyideboda wyali, romelsac myidveli<br />
blomad hyavda. am faqtidan<br />
erTaderTi daskvna gamovitane,<br />
romelmac isev kompania<br />
GWP-mde mimiyvana. cxadia, am<br />
mdgomareobiT viRac vaWrobs da<br />
im gaumaZRari „baybaydevis”<br />
rols mSvenivrad irgebs, romelic<br />
qveynis bunebriv resurss dapatronebia,<br />
milionebs ixveWs da<br />
xalxs saarsebo, macocxlebel<br />
wyarosac uketavs. albaT, dameTanxmebiT,<br />
arc erTi kompania ar<br />
gamoitanda maRaziis daxlebze am<br />
moculobis WurWliT wyals, gayidvis<br />
imedi rom ar hqonoda. imeds<br />
ki Tan axlavs dapirebebi.<br />
hoda, Cvenc swored eg gvainteresebs,<br />
_ vin dahpirda sasmeli<br />
wylis gamyidvelebs wyliT gajerebul<br />
saqarTveloSi, rom erovnuli<br />
simdidriT, albaT, erToblivad,<br />
gaisqelebdnen jibeebs?<br />
onkanidan rom modiodes, 40-<br />
litriani WurWliT wyali vis<br />
raSi dasWirdeboda? amitom „karfuridan”<br />
saxlSi gamwarebuli<br />
davbrundi da socialur qselSi<br />
aseTi posti davwere:<br />
„sul gagiJda es kompania _<br />
water & power _ Tu ra jandaba<br />
xdeba? yoveldRe SeiZleba, rom<br />
wyali 24 saaTiT wydebodes? am<br />
qveyanas da am kompanias patroni<br />
hyavs?! feisbuqmaimunebs, sul<br />
lanZRva-ginebiT rom arian dakavebulni<br />
da aTas uwmawur sityvas<br />
isvrian sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT,<br />
etyoba, es problema ar<br />
awuxebT da xmac amitom aqvT Cagdebuli,<br />
Tu aseTi davaleba jer<br />
ar miuRiaT?..<br />
hoda, feisbuqmaimunebo, axla<br />
me gaZlevT davalebas: erTi, narmanias<br />
hkiTxeT, guSin rom estumra<br />
water & power-s, iq ra gaakeTa?<br />
Tvalebi agvixvia, rom saqmis kacia,<br />
Tu xeli mouwera, midiT, xalxi<br />
awameT, Cemgan „dabro” gaqv-<br />
To? xalxis problemebi exeba Tu<br />
ar exeba, xom unda vicodeT, misi<br />
merobis bolo Jams mainc?!<br />
mokled, midiT axla, dakbineT,<br />
daglijeT, SeylapeT Tqveneburad<br />
es kompania da narmania batoni.<br />
amjerad mainc gaakeTebT<br />
karg saqmes!<br />
keTilma adamianebma damiTageT<br />
water & power da narmania. amovidnen<br />
ukve yelSi!!!”<br />
aqve ganvmartavT: internetmediiT<br />
am dReebSi informacia gavrcelebula,<br />
rom „Tbilisis merma,<br />
daviT narmaniam, moadgileebTan<br />
da meriis samsaxurebis<br />
warmomadgenlebTan erTad kompania<br />
„jorjian uoTer end faueris”<br />
wyalmomaragebis obieqtebi<br />
daaTvaliera. turis farglebSi<br />
stumrebma, RrmaRelis saTavo<br />
nageboba, safiltre sadguri da<br />
wylis xarisxis kontrolis centraluri<br />
laboratoria moinaxules,<br />
sadac sasmeli wylis kontroli<br />
24-saaTian reJimSi mimdinareobs.<br />
maT, aseve, unikaluri<br />
mobiluri laboratoria daaTvalieres,<br />
romelic dRes regionis<br />
masStabiT erTaderTia. kompaniis<br />
mobilur laboratoriaSi adgilze<br />
Catarebuli kvlevebis sa-<br />
SualebiT arasawarmo da sawarmoo<br />
dawesebulebebidan wyalarinebis<br />
koleqtorSi Camdinare<br />
wylis kontroli xorcieldeba.<br />
stumrebma moinaxules: saguramos<br />
satumbo sadguri, nataxtris<br />
wyalSemkrebi nageboba, Jinvalis<br />
wyalsacavi da axali hidroeleqtrosadguri<br />
„saguramohesi”.<br />
„jorjian uoTer end faueris”<br />
28 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
Tumca sanam maT komentarebs SemogTavazebT,<br />
minda, mosaxleobis<br />
azri gagacnoT, romelic aqtiurad<br />
CaerTo am virtualur saprotesto<br />
aqciaSi. aRmoCnda, rom<br />
Tbilisis Zalian bevr ubanSi kompania<br />
GWP-s erTdroulad hqonda<br />
Sewyvetili wyalmomarageba.<br />
arada, cxel xazze da Semdgom am<br />
kompaniisa da meriis warmomadgenlebi<br />
komentarebSi gvarwmunebdnen,<br />
rom, Turme, vazisubanSi<br />
raRac dazianebula, mis gamosworebas<br />
cdilobdnen da wyali<br />
amis gamo ar mogvewodeboda. isic<br />
cnobilia, rom, wesiT, gegmuri<br />
samuSaoebi ubnebSi rigiTobiT<br />
sruldeba da ara erTbaSad. ase<br />
rom, tyuilSic ar uqnia RmerTs<br />
es xalxi. 6 Tebervals, TbilisSi,<br />
wyali ar miewodeboda: svaneTis<br />
ubans, kukias, vazisubans, varkeTils,<br />
mTawmindas, rusTavels, na-<br />
Zaladevs, samgors... rogorc gvi-<br />
Txres, am dRes wyali, aseve, ar<br />
hqonda da, saerTodac, SeferxebebiT<br />
miewodeboda didi diRmis<br />
mosaxleobas.<br />
ai, rogor gamoxatavda protests<br />
xalxi Tbilisis wyalmo-<br />
da batoni narmania!<br />
salome vardiaSvili<br />
mxridan meriis warmomadgenlebis<br />
vizits uZRvebodnen: arCil<br />
gaCeCilaZe _ GGU jgufis aRmasrulebeli<br />
direqtori; giorgi<br />
cxadaZe _ kompaniis generaluri<br />
direqtori; ekaterine beriZe _<br />
komunikaciisa da korporaciuli<br />
momsaxurebis direqtori; irakli<br />
babuxadia _ komerciuli direqtori;<br />
mamuka kikaliSvili _ operaciebis<br />
marTvis direqtori;<br />
Tamar nikuraZe _ centraluri<br />
laboratoriis ufrosi da kompaniis<br />
menejmentis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
vizitis mimdinareobisas „jorjian<br />
uoTer end faueris” xelmZRvanelebma,<br />
qalaqis merTan da<br />
meriis warmomadgenlebTan er-<br />
Tad, kompaniis samomavlo gegmebsa<br />
da sainvesticio proeqtebis<br />
umniSvnelovanes mimarTulebebze<br />
isaubres. kompania msgavs Sexvedrebs<br />
samomavlodac gaagrZelebs”.<br />
mokled, gadavwyvite, kompaniisa<br />
da meriis yuradReba mimeqcia,<br />
raTa sakuTari TavisTvisac da im<br />
ubnis mcxovreblebisTvisac meSvela,<br />
romelTac wyali xSirad da<br />
xangrZlivi droiT ar miewodebaT.<br />
socialuri qseliT yovel<br />
saaTSi aseT saprotesto postebs<br />
vaqveynebdi: „ar daviRlebi Tqvenze<br />
weriT! water & power & batoni<br />
narmania _ gamouSviT wyali vazisubanSi,<br />
an gavcvaloT sacxovreblebi.<br />
koki arc SemomTavazoT!”<br />
„vibareb boTlebs! wyali unda<br />
movimarago, roca mova”; „vazisubani<br />
iTxovs wyals! sanam water &<br />
power & narmanias mivadeqiT plakatebiT<br />
da sayvirebiT, gamouSvan<br />
wyali! Tu ar gamouSveben,<br />
waiRon dasarecxi WurWeli, damirecxon<br />
da a. S. damiTageT narmania!”<br />
„vazisubnis mcxovreblebi<br />
viTxovT: GWP & power & narmaniam<br />
gamouSvas wyali!” „ra teqnikas<br />
naxulobs narmania „jorjian<br />
uoTer end fauerSi”? vis ainteresebs<br />
magaTi teqnika, Tu wyali ar<br />
gveqneba? daviRaleeeeT!.. ramdeni<br />
saaTi modis wyali kviris ganmavlobaSi,<br />
TiTebze viTvli da<br />
TiTebi myofnis... me wyals vyidulob<br />
da egeni yidian, Tu ra<br />
xdeba? am kompaniis muSaobas vinme<br />
swavlobs, Tu sruli Tavisufleba<br />
aqvs miniWebuli? ris fasad<br />
xdeba es?” „diliT wyali ar<br />
wamova onkanidan da GWP & narmania,<br />
daelode mxarze kokaSemodgmul<br />
Tebroleebs! martivad<br />
ar dasruldeba es ambavi”. uwylod<br />
yofnis meore dRes, Ramis<br />
11 saaTze, ki davwere: „daiketa<br />
maRaziebi, dayides ukve, rac SeitaneT,<br />
gamouSviT wyali! vazisubanSi<br />
wyali axlac ar modis!”<br />
am saprotesto postma yvelaze<br />
metad gaamarTla, radgan komentarebis<br />
wera Sesabamisi samsaxurebis<br />
warmomadgenlebmac<br />
daiwyes da Tavdacvas Seecadnen.<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
maragebasTan dakavSirebiT:<br />
dea TavberiZe:<br />
_ rusTavelzec mTeli dRea,<br />
wyali ar gvaqvs.<br />
xaTuna nozaZe:<br />
_ samgoric mag dReSia...<br />
nona CekuraSvili:<br />
_ veris ubnis melodiebi! rasac<br />
wylis gamo vibrZvi am Zvirfas<br />
kompaniasTan, meriasTan da semek-<br />
Tan gadamamisamarTes! semeki<br />
akontrolebs am jigrebso!<br />
qeTi miqaZe:<br />
_ davitanje mec ukve, ra. Tu<br />
mova da ise ZafiviT modis, gamacxelebeli<br />
ar acxelebs! ici, ra<br />
mikvirs, dRes gegmuri gamorTva<br />
naZaladevsa da isanSia da Cven<br />
ratom vxvdebiT yvela gamorTva-<br />
Si? mesame masivis xalxma, aeroportis<br />
gzas gadavketavTo.<br />
rozeta gujejiani:<br />
_ arc svaneTis ubanSia da arc<br />
kukiaze.<br />
zaza svanaZe:<br />
_ marto vasizubanSi araa ase-<br />
Ti viTareba, raRac periodi varkeTilSi<br />
vcxovrobdi da iqac<br />
mase _ kviraSi erTi dRe mainc<br />
unda gadaeketaT wyali.<br />
qeTi doliZe:<br />
_ wyali ki maqvs, magram uamravi<br />
welia, es kompania mayaCaRebs.<br />
erTxel kargad movicli. 17<br />
welia, mama gardacvlilia da<br />
dRemde maxdevineben gadasaxads,<br />
adre orjer mivedi da miTxres,<br />
awi gamoswordeba eg ambavio da,<br />
aha. suladoba kvlav igivea. micvalebulze<br />
wylis gadasaxads maxdevineben,<br />
meti saocreba raRaa?!<br />
axla ki GWP-sa da meriis<br />
„damcvelTa” saubars gagacnobT,<br />
romlebic, rogorc SevityveT,<br />
maTi TanamSromlebi arian da,<br />
albaT, am dawesebulebebis azrs<br />
gamoxataven:<br />
TinaTin WuWulaSvili:<br />
_ mogesalmebiT, qalbatono<br />
neli, kompania GWP-is sainformacio<br />
centris TanamSromeli<br />
var. wyalmomargeba xval diliT<br />
10 saaTze aRdgeba. guSin, 5 ianvars,<br />
temperaturis mkveTri<br />
vardnis gamo, uridias quCaze,<br />
#183-Tan, 1200 mm-iani gvirabuli<br />
wyalsadeni avariulad dazianda.<br />
kompanias dauyovnebeli<br />
reagireba hqonda _ brigadebma,<br />
dazianebis aRmosafxvrelad,<br />
wyalmomaragebis SezRudvis gareSe<br />
ganaxorcieles mosamzadebeli<br />
samuSaoebi. dazianebis aRdgena<br />
magistraluri qselis wylisgan<br />
daclas moiTxovda. vinaidan<br />
4 km-iani gvirabuli wyalsadeni<br />
dazianda, qselis daclas didi<br />
dro dasWirda. informacia guSinve<br />
gavavrceleT.<br />
eka sreseli:<br />
_ meria arafer SuaSia, informacia<br />
wylis kompaniam dado.<br />
saremontoebia da zogierT ubans<br />
ar aqvs. milebs cvlian, didi<br />
`rekomendacias amjeradac aucileblad<br />
gavugzavniT kompanias. bolo periodSi mTel<br />
TbilisSi aris es problema da yvela ubnidan<br />
gvaqvs informaciebi. am Temaze ramdenime dRis<br />
win `jvp~ davibareT kidec da adgilze miveciT<br />
rekomendaciebi. vazisubnidan bevri gvwerda da<br />
xSirad SevaxsenebT `jvp~-s, rom mdgomareoba<br />
gamoasworon. migvaCnia, rom kompaniam uwyveti<br />
da saimedo momsaxureba unda SeZlos, rac,<br />
samwuxarod, ar xdeba. isic gvesmis, rom<br />
saremonto samuSaoebi aucilebelia, magram am<br />
samuSaoebis ganxorcielebiT gamowveuli<br />
diskomforti momxmareblebze minimalurad unda<br />
aisaxos. amitom Cveni rekomendaciaa, rom<br />
samuSaoebi maqsimalurad swrafad Sesruldes<br />
xolme da iseT dros daigegmos, roca<br />
momxmarebelTa didi nawili saxlSi ar aris.<br />
avariuli SemTxvevebi ki minimalur droSi unda<br />
aRmoifxvras~<br />
dro undao. mikvirs, rom es informacia<br />
ver naxeT.<br />
_ kviraSi ramden dRes Sei-<br />
Zleba Catardes wylis saremonto<br />
samuSaoebi? ratom ar inter-<br />
esdeba meria? gaarkvieT da mix-<br />
vdebiT, rom wylis Sewyveta,<br />
realurad, saremonto samuSaoe-<br />
bis gamo ar xdeba da, xSirad,<br />
arsad arafers cvlian. roca<br />
qalaqis meri kompaniaSi midis da<br />
am kompaniis gamo xalxi cud<br />
dReSi imyofeba, minimum, is mainc<br />
xom unda ikiTxos, ra xdeba da<br />
xalxs pasuxi gasces! Tqven axla<br />
viRacas icavT, es, albaT, Tqve-<br />
ni misiaa, magram gifiqriaT, aseT<br />
dros rogor mdgomareobaSia<br />
korpusebSi gamoketili xalxi?<br />
gvirCieT, ra vqnaT?<br />
_ ra logika gaqvT? ver kiTxulobT,<br />
ras vwer? ra SuaSia aq dacva?<br />
es aris informacia, romelic<br />
gaasajaroes. darekeT cxel<br />
xazze, igives getyvian. kargad.<br />
Tbilisis wyliT momaragebas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT feisbuqze<br />
atexili aJiotaJis dros, ra Tqma<br />
unda, saxalxo damcveli, ombudsmeni<br />
uCa nanuaSvilic vaxseneT,<br />
Tumca igi verc virtualur samyaroSi<br />
aRmovaCineT.<br />
samagierod, energoombudsmeni<br />
salome vardiaSvili gamogvex-<br />
maura:<br />
_ rekomendacias amjeradac<br />
aucileblad gavugzavniT kompanias.<br />
bolo periodSi mTel TbilisSi<br />
aris es problema da yvela<br />
ubnidan gvaqvs informaciebi.<br />
am Temaze ramdenime dRis win<br />
„jvp” davibareT kidec da adgilze<br />
miveciT rekomendaciebi.<br />
vazisubnidan bevri gvwerda da<br />
xSirad SevaxsenebT „jvp”-s, rom<br />
mdgomareoba gamoasworon. migvaCnia,<br />
rom kompaniam uwyveti da<br />
saimedo momsaxureba unda SeZlos,<br />
rac, samwuxarod, ar xdeba.<br />
isic gvesmis, rom saremonto samuSaoebi<br />
aucilebelia, magram am<br />
samuSaoebis ganxorcielebiT<br />
gamowveuli diskomforti momxmareblebze<br />
minimalurad unda<br />
aisaxos. amitom Cveni rekomendaciaa,<br />
rom samuSaoebi maqsimalurad<br />
swrafad Sesruldes xolme<br />
da iseT dros daigegmos, roca<br />
momxmarebelTa didi nawili saxlSi<br />
ar aris. avariuli SemTxvevebi<br />
ki minimalur droSi unda aRmoifxvras.<br />
samwuxarod, 2016 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
Zalian didi ukmayofileba<br />
iyo „jvp”-s misamarTiT da absoluturad<br />
samarTlianad.<br />
esec Cven varT?! meriam axla<br />
mowmindos piri GWP-s _ wyals<br />
gegmurad wyvets, informaciebs<br />
ratom ar kiTxulobTo? informaciebs<br />
ki vkiTxulobT, Zvirfaso<br />
meria da meriis warmomadgenlebo,<br />
magram am informaciebis<br />
sandoobaSi ukve Zalian gvepareba<br />
eWvi. am eWvs ki, sxva situaciebTan<br />
erTad, Tbilisis meris cisferi<br />
xalaTiT kompaniaSi ucnauri<br />
sirbili da Tqveni kbilebiT<br />
dacvac gvimZafrebs.<br />
bolo dros, GWP-sTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, aseTi informaciebic<br />
vrceldeba: wylis kompania GWP<br />
„bijeo jgufma” iyida. rom ar<br />
daibneT, es aris „saqarTvelos<br />
banki”, romelmac zedized SeiZina<br />
„farmadepo”, „jipisi”, flobs<br />
cnobil samSeneblo firma „em<br />
kvadrats” da a. S. es yvelaferi<br />
„bijeo jgufis” saxelis qveSaa<br />
gaerTianebuli. iyvireT axla, banki<br />
aseT sawarmoebs ar unda<br />
flobdeso.<br />
aRarc ki viciT, ra vifiqroT.<br />
faqti erTia: mdidrdebian, bobolebi<br />
xdebian, ucxoeTSi daseirnoben,<br />
ZviradRirebuli manqanebiT<br />
dadian, TviTmfrinavsa<br />
da sastumroebSi „hai klass” ir-<br />
Ceven, Svilebs sazRvargareT acxovreben<br />
da aswavlian, saxlebs<br />
evropaSi yiduloben, Sveicariis<br />
bankSi angariSebs xsnian, Zvirad-<br />
Rirebuli eqimi da wamali ar akliaT...<br />
es yvelaferi ki im xalxis<br />
xarjze, romelTac xelisufleba<br />
socialur daxmarebas uxsnis,<br />
sayovelTao dazRvevas umcirebs,<br />
wyals, gazs, eleqtroenergias,<br />
benzins uZvirebs, komerciuli<br />
bankebisa da kompaniebis sajijgnad<br />
xdis, sityvis Tavisuflebas<br />
uspobs... da wlebia, mxolod ocnebiT<br />
acocxlebs.<br />
29
gela mamulaSvili<br />
599 45 50 26<br />
saxalxo damcvelma sazoga-<br />
doebas specialuri angariSi warudgina, romelSic „okupirebuli<br />
teritoriebis Sesaxeb” saqarTvelos kanonisa da praq-<br />
tikis analizi da rekomendaciebia Tavmoyrili. angariSi ok-<br />
upirebul teritoriebze Sesvlis, ekonomikuri saqmianobis, de<br />
faqto organoebis mier gacemuli dokumentebisa da adamianis<br />
uflebaTa dacvis TvalsazrisiT „okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />
Sesaxeb” kanonsa da praqtikaSi arsebul xarvezebsa da dab-<br />
rkolebebs mimoixilavs da maTi aRmofxvris gzebs miuTiTebs.<br />
30<br />
irakli cqitiSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
angariSSi asaxuli saxalxo damcvelis<br />
rekomendaciebi mimarTulia<br />
okupirebul teritoriebze<br />
mcxovrebi an/da maTTan mWidro<br />
kavSiris mqone adamianebis uflebrivi<br />
mdgomareobis gaumjobesebisken;<br />
amasTan, sakiTxTa sensitiurobidan<br />
gamomdinare aucilebelia,<br />
sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebi<br />
Tu praqtika Sesabamisi samTavrobo<br />
uwyebebis sruli koordinacii-<br />
Ta da dainteresebul mxareebTan<br />
TanamSromlobiT SemuSavdes.<br />
saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom<br />
saqarTvelos mTavroba maqsimalurad<br />
unda uwyobdes xels okupirebul<br />
teritoriebze mcxovrebi<br />
adgilobrivi mosaxleobis uflebebisa<br />
da Tavisuflebebis dacvasa<br />
da socialuri da ekonomikuri<br />
mdgomareobis, jandacvisa da ganaTlebis<br />
xelmisawvdomobis gaumjobesebas.<br />
Sesabamisad, saxalxo damcvelis<br />
azriT, saqarTvelom ufro moqnili<br />
unda gaxados okupirebul teritoriebze<br />
aralegaluri mimarTulebebidan<br />
Sesvlis wesi da ucxo<br />
qveynis moqalaqis, an moqalaqeobis<br />
armqone pirisTvis sasjelis<br />
zoma unda Semoifarglebodes administraciuli<br />
pasuxismgeblobiT,<br />
nacvlad amJamad moqmedi sisxlis<br />
samarTlis pasuxismgeblobisa:<br />
„praqtikis analiziT, Cans rom<br />
okupirebul teritoriebze Sesvlis<br />
wesis darRvevisTvis sasjeli<br />
mxolod im mcire nawils ekisreba,<br />
romelic Semdeg saqarTvelos mier<br />
kontrolirebad teritoriaze Semodis.<br />
amasTan, es SezRudva vrceldeba<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciebze<br />
da maT TanamSromlebze, romlebic<br />
okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />
mosaxleobisTvis sasicocxlo<br />
mniSvnelobis saqmianobas ewevian”.<br />
saxalxo damcveli, aseve, miiCnevs,<br />
rom saqarTvelos evrokavSir-<br />
Tan asocirebis SeTanxmebisa da evrokavSirSi<br />
gawevrianebis miswrafebis<br />
Sesabamisad, mTavrobam unda<br />
SeimuSaos wamaxalisebeli samarTlebrivi<br />
da lojistikuri meqanizmi,<br />
maT Soris, gansxvavebuli sagadasaxado<br />
reJimi da gamoyos finansuri<br />
resursi, romelic saSualebas<br />
miscems okupirebul teritoriebze<br />
momuSave adgilobriv individualur<br />
mewarmeebs, mikro da<br />
mcire biznesebs, ganaviTaron ekonomikuri<br />
da savaWro urTierTobebi<br />
gamyofi xazis meore mxares moqmed<br />
biznesebTan da mewarmeebTan,<br />
erToblivi ekonomikuri saqmianobis<br />
ganxorcielebis mizniT:<br />
„okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />
mosaxleobas, gansakuTrebiT ki<br />
axal Taobas, sxva sabuTebi, garda<br />
aralegitimuri organoebis mier<br />
gacemuli dokumentebisa, ZiriTadad,<br />
ar gaaCnia. xolo, vinaidan, moqmedi<br />
kanonis mixedviT, aseTi dokumentebi<br />
aRar aris, maTTvis saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeobis dadgena<br />
da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis<br />
damadasturebeli dokumentebis<br />
miReba garTulebulia. amdenad,<br />
xelisuflebam unda Seimu-<br />
Saos efeqtiani meqanizmi, raTa okupirebul<br />
teritoriaze mcxovrebma<br />
pirebma martivad SeZlon saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeobis damadasturebeli<br />
mowmobisa da iuridiuli<br />
Zalis mqone dokumentebis mi-<br />
Reba, riTac Semdeg SeeZlebaT saxelmwifos<br />
mier SeTavazebuli servisebiT<br />
sargebloba”.<br />
saxalxo damcveli mzadyofnas<br />
gamoTqvams, aqtiuri monawileoba<br />
miiRos regulaciebisa da praqtikis<br />
Sesaxeb damatebiT ganxilvebSi<br />
da imedovnebs, rom misi rekomendaciebis<br />
safuZvelze moqmedi<br />
sakanonmdeblo normebi da maTi<br />
aRsruleba orientirebuli iqneba<br />
adamianis uflebaTa dacvasa da pativiscemaze.<br />
ombudsmenis am winadadebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT „qronika+” eqspert<br />
irakli cqitiSvils esaubreba:<br />
_ batono irakli, ra Sedegebs<br />
gamoiwvevs saxalxo damcvelis<br />
aRniSnuli rekomendaciebis Ses-<br />
ruleba?<br />
_ 2012 wels, xelisuflebis<br />
Secvlis Semdeg, periodulad gaismis<br />
mowodebebi, Seicvalos kanoni<br />
okupirebuli teritoriebis Sesaxeb.<br />
kanonproeqti pirveli mosmeni-<br />
Tac ki miiRo wina mowvevis parlamentma,<br />
magram misi Semdgomi ganxilva<br />
ar Sedga _ xalxma ver gaigo.<br />
amis Semdeg xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi<br />
da masTan daaxloebuli<br />
pirebi imave Tezisebs drodadro<br />
Semoagdeben xolme sazogadoebaSi,<br />
albaT, imis mosasinjad,<br />
xalxi mzadaa Tu ara jer aseTi radikaluri<br />
cvlilebisTvis.<br />
bolo dros, es misia ombudsmens<br />
akisria, romelic, jer kidev,<br />
arasamTavrobo seqtorSi yofnis<br />
dros Taobda qarTvelebis mxridan<br />
afxazebisTvis mobodiSebis aqcias.<br />
ase erqva am kampanias: „bodiSi”... da<br />
devnilTa nawils mwared axsovs es.<br />
rogorc Cans, SemTxveviT ar<br />
aurCeviaT uCa nanuaSvili am gegmebis<br />
gamxmovaneblad. garkveuli<br />
pirebi arasamTavrobo seqtorSi<br />
mxarsac ki ubamen, rom es poziciebi<br />
gaaZlieron. cdiloben, veneciis<br />
komisias daukavSiron isini da<br />
amiT moaxvion Tavs mosaxleobas,<br />
TiTqos, evrokavSirisa da evropuli<br />
struqturebis moTxovnaa.<br />
_ konkretulad, risi Secvla<br />
undaT?<br />
_ 1. okupirebul teritoriaze<br />
ukanono SesvlisTvis pirs daekisros<br />
mxolod administraciuli pa-<br />
saxalxo damcveli<br />
`okupirebuli<br />
teritoriebis<br />
Sesaxeb~ kanonis<br />
Serbilebas iTxovs<br />
`saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba<br />
orientirebulia,<br />
koWi gaugoros<br />
ruseTsa da evropas<br />
da srulebiT ar<br />
aris mowadinebuli,<br />
sakuTari interesebi<br />
daicvas yvela<br />
tribunaze, yvela<br />
sivrceSi~<br />
suxismgebloba.<br />
Tu saqarTvelo saxelmwifoa,<br />
mis yvela sazRvarze unda moqmedebdes<br />
erTnairi kanoni. magaliTad,<br />
Tu adamiani TurqeTis, azerbaijanis,<br />
somxeTis mxridan Semova ukanonod,<br />
mas, SeiZleba, sisxlis samarTlis<br />
pasuxismgebloba daekisros.<br />
ombudsmeni gvTavazobs, rom<br />
ruseTis mxridan ukanonod Semosul<br />
pirebze dawesdes SeRavaTi _<br />
daisajon mxolod administraciulad.<br />
ratom keTdeba aseTi SeRavaTebi<br />
ruseTis mxridan Cveni saz-<br />
Rvris darRvevaze? gana, ufro<br />
logikuri ar iqneboda, am _ Cvendami<br />
mtruli saxelmwifos _ sazRvrebze<br />
kontrolis reJimis ufro<br />
gamkacreba?! aseTi SeRavaTi gamoiwvevs<br />
mxolod sazRvris darRvevis,<br />
garkveulwilad, legalizebas,<br />
darRvevaTa ricxvis zrdas Tan ise,<br />
rom arc sasjelis SeeSindebaT.<br />
ombudsmenis rekomendaciis momxreebi<br />
(da, maT Soris, paata zaqareiSvili)<br />
acxadeben, rom es keTdeba<br />
imisTvis, raTa SemTxveviT moxvedrili<br />
adamianebi Zalian mkacrad<br />
ar daisajon. vnaxoT, vin Sedis<br />
am teritoriebze: pirvel rig-<br />
Si, ruseTis moqalaqeebi. SeiZleba,<br />
warmovidginoT is faqti, rom<br />
ruseTis moqalaqeebma ar ician,<br />
rom saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobas<br />
arRveven? nuTu, 25 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
maT ar gaugiaT am kanonis<br />
moqmedebis Sesaxeb? gamoricxulia.<br />
arian ukrainelebi, arian tajikebi<br />
da uzbekebi. Sua azielebs naklebad<br />
ainteresebT, sad ra kanoni<br />
moqmedebs, maT TavianTi gasaWiri<br />
aqvT _ afxazeTSi moxvedrilebi<br />
mere ruseTSi veRar brundebian,<br />
imitom, rom Sesabamisi vizebi ar<br />
uCa nanuaSvili<br />
aqvT.<br />
ase rom, saubari imaze, TiTqos,<br />
maT ar ician da unda vapatioT,<br />
gadaWarbebulia. ruseTis moqalaqeebis<br />
aseTi raodenobiT iq Casvla<br />
ekonomikurad aZlierebs separatistul<br />
reJimebs da maT swrafvas<br />
damoukideblobisken. swored<br />
amis winaaRmdeg aris mimarTuli<br />
dRes moqmedi kanonmdebloba.<br />
aqve minda vTqva, rom saubari<br />
„or ruseTze”, rom TiTqos ruse-<br />
Tis rigiTi moqalaqe arafer Sua-<br />
Sia, rogorme unda damTavrdes saqarTveloSi!<br />
mosaxleoba, romlis<br />
80% mxars uWers Tavis xelisuflebas,<br />
romelsac, Tavis mxriv,<br />
Cveni qveynis teritoriebi okupirebuli<br />
aqvs, iseTive pasuxismgebelia<br />
am okupaciaze, rogorc misi<br />
xelisufleba.<br />
aris kidev erTi ram, da, albaT,<br />
yvelaze mTavari _ qarTuli kanonmdebloba<br />
apriori ar iTvaliswinebs<br />
Tavisuflebis aRkveTas okupirebul<br />
teritoriaze ukanono<br />
SesvlisTvis. kanoni iTvaliswinebs<br />
jarimas, an Tavisuflebis aRkve-<br />
Tas. sasamarTlos prerogativaa,<br />
gansazRvros, romeli maTgani air-<br />
Cios. vfiqrob, moqmedi kanonmdeblobis<br />
pirobebSic sasamarTlos<br />
SeuZlia, maT, vinc „SemTxveviT moxvda”<br />
okupirebul teritoriaze,<br />
jarima daakisros. amisTvis kanonis<br />
Secvla ar aris saWiro. sasamarTlom,<br />
aseve, unda gadawyvitos,<br />
Caidina Tu ara damrRvevma sisxlis<br />
samarTlis danaSauli da am SemTxvevaSi<br />
ukve SeuZlia, Tavisufleba<br />
aRukveTos.<br />
gamomdinare zemoxsenebulidan,<br />
rekomendebuli cvlilebebi srulebiT<br />
ar Seesabameba im miznebs,<br />
romelTac safuZvlad udeben am<br />
cvlilebebis mxardmWerebi. am xelisuflebas<br />
sxva problema aqvs _<br />
kanonis aRsrulebis.<br />
rogorc iciT, gasul wlebSi,<br />
moqmedi xelisuflebis pirobebSi,<br />
araerTi adamiani imyofeboda saqarTveloSi,<br />
vinc mxilebulia okupirebuli<br />
teritoriebis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonis darRvevaSi. naTeli magaliTia<br />
italiuri musikaluri jgufi<br />
„riki&poveri”, romlis solistebs<br />
medlebic ki aqvT miRebuli<br />
cxinvalis saokupacio reJimisgan.<br />
Tumca saqarTveloSi isini ise SemouSves,<br />
rom krintis ki ar dau-<br />
ZravT. Tu saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
pativs ar scems Tavis saxelmwifos<br />
da mis kanonebs, sxvas ra<br />
unda movTxovoT? problema is ki<br />
ar aris, ra sasjeli iqneba, problema<br />
qveyanaSi danaSaulze sasjelis<br />
gardauvlobis ararsebobaa.<br />
30 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
mTavaria, rom kanonis damrRvevis<br />
mimarT gaimarTos sasamarTlo da<br />
sasamarTlom Tavisi ganaCeni gamoitanos,<br />
riTac yvelas mivaniSnebT,<br />
rom kanoni kanonobs. maT 100<br />
lars Tu 2000 lars gadavaxdevinebT<br />
_ meorexarisxovani problemaa.<br />
mTavari mainc danaSaulisTvis<br />
sasjelis gardauvlobaa da<br />
swored aq aqvs am xelisuflebas<br />
Cavardnebi. vfiqrob, es keTdeba<br />
Segnebulad, raTa xalxs uTxran _<br />
moqmedi kanoni ar muSaobs da is<br />
Sesacvleliao, rasac swored ombudsmenis<br />
xeliT akeTeben dRes.<br />
_ maS, ratom undaT kanonis<br />
Secvla, Tu es cvlilebebi<br />
qarTul interesebze srulebiT<br />
araa morgebuli?<br />
_ aq mxolod erTi daskvna modis<br />
azrad, _ ruseTis moTxovnebis<br />
dasakmayofileblad. ruseTi<br />
ukve didi xania, am kanonis Serbilebas,<br />
an, sulac, gauqmebas moiTxovs.<br />
misi interesi gasagebia _ sakuTar<br />
moqalaqeebs aacilos pasuxismgebloba<br />
okupirebul teritoriebze<br />
Sesvlis gamo. da Tu miaRwevs,<br />
misi moqalaqeebi ufro aqtiurad<br />
ivlian am teritoriebze ise,<br />
rom Semdeg ar moeridebian TbilisSi<br />
Camosvlas da aq „Zmoba-megobrobaze”<br />
sadRegrZeloebis Tqmas...<br />
rac sulac ar niSnavs, rom isini<br />
ewinaaRmdegebian saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriebis okupacias. ruseTis<br />
interesia, aseve, rom ruseTis politelitis<br />
warmomadgenlebs, romlebic<br />
xSiri stumrebi arian okupirebul<br />
teritoriebze, xeli ar<br />
SeeSaloT saqarTveloSi Camosvla-<br />
Si sxvadasxva miznebiT. da sad aris<br />
saqarTvelos interesi am SemTxvevaSi?<br />
_ rac Seexeba SeRavaTian saga-<br />
dasaxado reJims okupirebul<br />
teritoriaze momuSave mewarmee-<br />
bisTvis?<br />
_ es sakiTxi met gaSlas moiTxovs.<br />
sainteresoa, Tu rogori saxis<br />
mewarmeebs gulisxmobs da romeli<br />
qveynis? SeiZleba, SeRavaTi im<br />
mewarmeebs dauwesdes, romlebic<br />
qarTuli kanonmdeblobiT arian<br />
daregistrirebulni da gadasaxadebs<br />
saqarTvelos biujetSi ixdian.<br />
magram, am SemTxvevaSi, sxva<br />
problema warmoiqmneba _ sagadasaxado<br />
administrirebis. vin gaakontrolebs<br />
am mewarmeebis saqmianobas<br />
okupirebul teritoriaze?<br />
rogor aRiricxeba Cven mier ukontrolo<br />
regionebSi maTi biznesis<br />
brunva da rogor daibegreba igi?<br />
piradad veranair meqanizms ver<br />
vxedav amis gansaxorcieleblad.<br />
Sedegad miviRebT imas, rom moqmed<br />
qarTul ekonomikur sivrceSi Caebmebian<br />
adamianebi, romelTac okupirebul<br />
teritoriaze Sesvlis<br />
ufleba aqvT da romelTac legaluri<br />
biznesi aralegaluri operaciebisTvis<br />
gamoiyenebs, magali-<br />
Tad, gadasaxadebis zemoaRniSnuli<br />
SeRavaTebis damalvis mizniT. anu<br />
gveqneba erTi didi Savi xvreli,<br />
rogoric iyo, Tavis droze, ergne-<br />
Tis bazroba. axla masStabebi gacilebiT<br />
didi iqneba.<br />
_ Seexeba Tu ara aRniSnuli<br />
SeRavaTebi okupirebul terito-<br />
riebze moqmed rusul kompaniebs?<br />
_ ombudsmenis rekomendacia,<br />
albaT, gulisxmobs, rom rusul<br />
kompaniebs SeRavaTebi Seexeba, Tu<br />
isini saqarTvelos sistemaSi iqnebian<br />
registrirebulni. davuSvaT,<br />
asec moxda da rusuli kompania<br />
daregistrirda saqarTvelos arakontrolirebad<br />
teritoriaze Se-<br />
RavaTian sagadasaxado pirobebSi<br />
saqmianobis sawarmoeblad. vin gaakontrolebs<br />
rusul kompanias?!<br />
vin icis, ra operaciebs Caatarebs<br />
is iq?! da Tu SeRavaTi gulisxmobs,<br />
saerTod, nulovan ganakveTs, raTa<br />
misi administrireba ar moxdes,<br />
maSin miviRebT okupirebul teritoriaze<br />
rusuli kompaniebis<br />
saqmianobis legalizebas ise, rom<br />
amiT saqarTvelo verc ekonomikur<br />
da verc politikur xeirs miiRebs.<br />
maS, risTvis gvinda Cvendami mtrulad<br />
ganwyobili qveynis biznesisTvis<br />
xelSewyoba?<br />
ombudsmenis gulis tkivili<br />
adamianis uflebebis gamo okupirebul<br />
teritoriaze srulebiT<br />
gasagebia, magram mxolod im nawil-<br />
Si, sadac iqauri mcxovreblebi<br />
Tavad uCivian uflebebis darRevas.<br />
magaliTad, afxazebs rom uTxraT,<br />
Seni uflebebis dasacavad<br />
movdivaro, gaecinebaT... isini sulac<br />
ar uCivian TavianTi uflebebis<br />
darRvevas, yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
maT dacvas qarTul mxares sulac<br />
ar sTxoven.<br />
_ maS, ratom vTavazobT?<br />
_ gvgonia, rom amas dainaxaven,<br />
gaigeben da Serigebis procesi daiwyeba?<br />
Zalian Sors unda iyo iq<br />
arsebuli mdgomareobidan, ase miamiturad<br />
rom imsjelo. samwuxaroa,<br />
afxazebTan da osebTanac<br />
„Serigebis” procesSi qarTuli<br />
mxridan, TiTqmis, aravin monawileobs<br />
iseTi, vinc kargad icnobs maT<br />
jiSsa da jilags, da moxarSuli<br />
icis, ras warmoadgenen erTnic da<br />
meorenic (sxvaTa Soris, es iyo<br />
kidevac afxazebis moTxovna, rasac<br />
Cvenebi upirobod daeTanxmnen).<br />
is xalxi ki, vinc am proceseb-<br />
Sia dRes CarTuli, saerTod „tyemalze<br />
zis” da ase hgonia, rom evropul<br />
gamocdilebas Tu gadmoakopirebs,<br />
an evropul rekomendacias<br />
Tu gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad gamo-<br />
Cndeba sxvebis TvalSi. erTi ram<br />
unda gaviTvaliswinoT: evropuli<br />
rekomendacia kargia wasakiTxad da<br />
morgebulia evropeli adamianebis<br />
azrovnebaze, evropul realobaze,<br />
srulebiT sxva kulturis adamianebze,<br />
da yvelaze mTavari _ maTi<br />
mizani, xSirad, ara konfliqtebis<br />
saqarTvelos sasargeblod gadawyvetaa,<br />
aramed am konfliqtebis,<br />
rac SeiZleba, didxans gayinva,<br />
raTa saqarTvelo ar gaxdes maTi<br />
Tavis tkivili ukrainisa da siriis<br />
ambebTan erTan. ar iqneba ukraina<br />
da siria, sxva iqneba.<br />
evropa dainteresebulia, pirvel<br />
rigSi, rac SeiZleba naklebi<br />
safiqrali hqondes sxva teritoriebze<br />
da metad iyos orientirebuli<br />
sakuTar ekonomikur keTildReobaze.<br />
srulebiT gasagebi mizania:<br />
„jer Tavo”... magram Cven xom<br />
Cveni safiqrali gvaqvs da, pirvel<br />
rigSi, mxolod da mxolod, is rekomendaciebi<br />
unda gaviTvaliswinoT,<br />
romlebic sakuTari miznebis<br />
miRwevaSi dagvexmareba.<br />
saboloo jamSi, am rekomendaciebidan<br />
vigebT erT rames: saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba orientirebulia,<br />
koWi gaugoros ruseTsa<br />
da evropas da srulebiT ar aris<br />
mowadinebuli, sakuTari interesebi<br />
daicvas yvela tribunaze, yvela<br />
sivrceSi.<br />
afxazebis am bolo dros gaxSirebuli<br />
voiaJebi evropisa da amerikis<br />
sxvadasxva gamofenaze amas<br />
adasturebs. imis magivrad, rom<br />
prevenciaze imuSaon, Cveni diplomatiuri<br />
korpusi winaswar emzadebodes<br />
yvela gamofenisTvis monawileTa<br />
siebis gamoTxoviT da afxazebis<br />
monawileobis SemTxvevaSi<br />
ufro adre reagirebisTvis, vidre<br />
isini ukve iqnebian warmodgenili<br />
am gamofenebze, samwuxarod, reagireba<br />
gviwevs mas mere, rac es ambavi<br />
mediaSi gaJRerdeba. es niSnavs<br />
erT rames _ okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />
sakiTxi ar aris sagareo<br />
saqmeTa saministros nomer pirveli<br />
amocana.<br />
_ gaiziarebs Tu ara xelisufleba<br />
ombudsmenis rekomendacie-<br />
bs?<br />
_ am etapze sruliad erTmniSvnelovnad<br />
SegviZlia amaze gipasuxoT,<br />
_ gaiziarebs. metic, es winadadebebi<br />
momzadebulia xelisuflebaSi,<br />
an „ufro zeviT” da zaqareiSvili<br />
da nanuaSvili mxolod<br />
gamxmovaneblebad gvevlinebian. sakiTxavia,<br />
SeZlebs Tu ara xelisufleba<br />
am cvlilebebis miRebas?<br />
gaCumdeba sazogadoeba am umsgavsobaze<br />
iseve, rogorc bevr sxva<br />
rameze dums? jerjerobiT, „tvinis<br />
gamorecxvis” process vxedavT,<br />
rodesac periodulobiT Semoagdeben<br />
am cvlilebebs da sazogadoebis<br />
reaqcias akvirdebian. albaT,<br />
elodebian, rodis etyvis sazogadoeba,<br />
_ kiserimc gitexiaTo...<br />
qarTuli xelisuflebis politika<br />
okupirebul teritoriebTan<br />
mimarTebiT unda gaaqtiurdes<br />
saerTaSoriso arenaze. am Temaze<br />
saerTaSoriso warmomadgenlebTan<br />
`samwuxaroa, afxazebTan da osebTanac `Serigebis~ procesSi qarTuli<br />
mxridan, TiTqmis, aravin monawileobs iseTi, vinc kargad icnobs maT jiSsa<br />
da jilags, da moxarSuli icis, ras warmoadgenen erTnic da meorenic<br />
(sxvaTa Soris, es iyo kidevac afxazebis moTxovna, rasac Cvenebi upirobod<br />
daeTanxmnen). is xalxi ki, vinc am procesebSia dRes CarTuli, saerTod<br />
`tyemalze zis~ da ase hgonia, rom evropul gamocdilebas Tu<br />
gadmoakopirebs, an evropul rekomendacias Tu gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad<br />
gamoCndeba sxvebis TvalSi~<br />
meti komunikacia unda iyos, es<br />
Temebi maRali tribunebidan unda<br />
JRerdebos da ara ise, rogorc<br />
morigi raRac gancxadeba, romelsac<br />
Cveni bolo drois premierebi<br />
akeTebdnen da naxevar saaTSi aravis<br />
axsovda, raze iyo saubari. Tu<br />
maT gamosvlaze saerTaSoriso media<br />
dums, CaTvaleT, rom araferi<br />
uTqvamT. amitom Cveni okupirebuli<br />
teritoriebis Tematika saer-<br />
TaSoriso mediaSi unda dabrundes.<br />
yvelgan, sadac ukrainuli sakiTxi<br />
wamoiWreba da saubari iqneba yirimis<br />
aneqsiasa da donbasis okupaciaze,<br />
iqve unda JRerdes afxaze-<br />
Ti da cxinvalis regioni. sagareo<br />
saqmeTa saministro met koordinaciaSi<br />
unda iyos am sakiTxebSi ukrainul<br />
mxaresTan, raTa erTiani<br />
frontiT gamovideT okupantis<br />
winaaRmdeg. es unda iyos kargad<br />
gaazrebuli da erTiani Seteva<br />
politikuri frontis yvela xazze.<br />
meore sakiTxi, rasac vurCevdi<br />
xelisuflebas, da zemoTac avRniSne<br />
_ prevenciaze muSaobaa. afxazur<br />
Tu osur marionetul re-<br />
Jimebs TavianTi fsevdodamoukideblobis<br />
propagandis saSualeba ar<br />
unda mivceT saerTaSoriso arenaze.<br />
amisTvis saWiroa, rom yvela<br />
saelCo mudmivad iyos saqmis kurs-<br />
Si, Tu ra RonisZiebebi tardeba<br />
maTi ganTavsebis qveynebSi. mudmivad<br />
unda adevnon Tvali monawileebs<br />
da reagireba moaxdinon sa-<br />
Wiroebis SemTxvevaSi. Cven ar unda<br />
vigebdeT, rom separatistebma aqa<br />
Tu iq TavianTi Tavis reklama gaakeTes,<br />
es ZirSive unda aRikveTos.<br />
piriqiT, unda gvikvirdes, ratom<br />
ar Canan... magram amas muSaoba sWirdeba<br />
da ara Sopingebze siaruli.<br />
aucilebelia, rom yoveli saer-<br />
TaSoriso Sexvedris Semdeg sruli<br />
moculobiT gaJRerdes Sexvedris<br />
Sedegebi (is, rac iTqmis). rusul<br />
mxaresTan Sexvedrebis Sinaarsi mosaxleobisTvis<br />
ar unda iyos saidumlo,<br />
miT umetes, xelSekrulebebi<br />
da SeTanxmebebi. yoveli aseTi<br />
Sexvedris Semdeg, ratomRac, swored<br />
rusuli mxare avrcelebs pirvelad<br />
informacias da Taviseburad<br />
awvdis medias Sinaarss, qarTul<br />
mxares ki ukve reagireba uwevs.<br />
cnobilia, rom pirveli informacia<br />
yvelaze mniSvnelovania, rame-<br />
Tu Tavidanve uyalibebs mkiTxvel-<br />
sa da msmenels azris mimarTulebas,<br />
xolo Semdgom informaciebs<br />
is ukve swored am Camoyalibebuli<br />
azris WrilSi ganixilavs da aRiqvams.<br />
maS, ratom iZleva Cveni sagareo<br />
saqmeTa saministro informacias<br />
yovelTvis dagvianebiT? aq saubaria<br />
rusuli informaciuli propagandis<br />
mier sakuTari kliSeebis<br />
Tavsmoxvevis prevenciaze. ratom<br />
ar SeiZleba, am Sexvedris dasrulebisTanave<br />
gakeTdes gancxadebebi,<br />
romlebic, iqneb, mTavar Tezisebs<br />
moicavdes, xolo maTi ufro Rrma<br />
analizis mowodeba da detaluri<br />
axsna-ganmarteba cota mogvianebi-<br />
Tac SeiZleba.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom saqarTvelos<br />
Sss gvimtkicebs, rom okupaciis<br />
xazi srulad kontroldeba,<br />
yovel kvira itaceben Cvens moqalaqeebs<br />
saokupacio xazidan. „fici<br />
mwams, bolo makvirvebso”. saWiroa<br />
saokupacio xazis srulad gakontroleba,<br />
raTa mis mimdebare soflebSi<br />
mcxovrebma saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeebma daculad igrZnon<br />
Tavi _ rusebis, an osebis arasanqcirebuli<br />
moqmedebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
mkacri reagireba da ara Tavis mar-<br />
Tleba da okupantebis namoqmedaris<br />
„gapraveba”.<br />
rogorc im SemTxvevaSi iyo,<br />
rodesac „sazRvris” aRmniSvneli<br />
baneri gadmoswies, xelisufleba ki<br />
gvicxadebda, araferi moxdao, maT<br />
mxolod sabWoTa rukebiT ixelm-<br />
ZRvaneles da samxreT oseTis sazRvari<br />
gaasworeso. gveyo dacinva,<br />
gveyo sxvis interesebze (afxazebze,<br />
osebze, rusebze, evropelebze)<br />
fiqri da zrunva, yoveli mtkaveli<br />
unda davicvaT, yoveli Cveni<br />
adamiani da ar veZeboT sakuTari<br />
uunarobis gamamarTlebeli sabu-<br />
Ti.<br />
aucilebelia, rom xelisuflebam<br />
adekvaturi midgoma SeimuSaos<br />
devnilebis mimarT. magaliTad, is<br />
faqti, rom afxazebs ufasod mkurnaloben<br />
saqarTvelos klinikebSi,<br />
xolo devnilebs Cveulebriv uxdebaT<br />
safasuris gadaxda da Tanxebis<br />
uqonlobis gamo bevri iRupeba<br />
ise, rom Tvalsac veRarasdros<br />
Seavlebs mowyurebul afxazeTis<br />
miwas, maTTvis seriozuli problemaa.<br />
maT esmiT am politikuri nabijis<br />
mniSvneloba, magram ar esmiT,<br />
ratom epyroba maT Tavad xelisufali<br />
ise, TiTqos ucxoni iyvnen,<br />
TiTqos maT naklebad uWirdeT,<br />
TiTqos ar iyvnen erTiani qarTuli<br />
sazogadoebis nawili?!! amis magivrad<br />
aJRereben iseT iniciativebs,<br />
romelic mimarTulia maTi<br />
yofis gauaresebaze, maTTvis statusis<br />
SeCerebaze, an statusTan<br />
mibmuli Semweobis gauqmebaze da<br />
ase Semdeg.<br />
aseT pirobebSi devnili mosaxleoba<br />
erTxelac gailaSqrebs am<br />
xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg misi<br />
„afxazebTan da osebTan Serigebis”<br />
politikis gamo, romlis msxverpli<br />
isev devnilebi xdebian.<br />
teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdgenis<br />
saparalmento droebiTi komisia<br />
saerTodac umoqmedoa. adre,<br />
rodesac komisias batoni malaSxia<br />
xelmZRvanelobda, Zalian bevri<br />
ram keTdeboda am komisiis farglebSi<br />
okupaciis sawinaaRmdego<br />
politikis farglebSi. axali xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSi am komisiam<br />
srulebiT dakarga Tavisi funqcia<br />
da iqca xelisuflebis uazro iniciativebis<br />
legalizebis meqanizmad.<br />
aucilebelia, es organo ufro<br />
aqtiuri da saqmiani gaxdes, mowydes<br />
Cveul saparlamento-sakabineto<br />
muSaobas da konkretuli iniciativebis<br />
generatorad gadaiqces.<br />
31
lisuflebasac _ maSin faseulobaTa<br />
ierarqia, faqtobriv, ar arsebobs<br />
da sazogadoebis yuradReba,<br />
upiratesad, gadatanilia meore-mesamexarisxovan<br />
sakiTxebze,<br />
pirvelxarisxovani ki ganzea gaweuli.<br />
getyviT, ras vgulisxmob,<br />
rom mentalurad da cnobierad<br />
saxelmwifoebrivi cnobierebiT ar<br />
varT Camoyalibebuli. ai, magali-<br />
Tad: wlebia, ganxilvis prioritetuli<br />
Temaa faruli mosmenebis<br />
(TvalTvali) problema, rac bolo<br />
periodSi kidev ufro gaaqtiurda.<br />
ukve gamoikveTa, rom Sei-<br />
Zleba Camoyalibdes saagento, axali<br />
saxelmwifo dawesebuleba,<br />
romelic amas mouvlis, mis xelSi<br />
iqneba raRac „gasaRebi” da a. S. gekiTxebiT,<br />
ra ufro mniSvnelovania<br />
saxelmwifosTvis, mosmenebi<br />
Tu saxelmwifo ena?<br />
am SemTxvevaSi gamodis, rom<br />
mosmenebi!..<br />
ukacravad da „WuWyiani” mosmenebisTvis,<br />
Turme, fulic arsebobs,<br />
saagentos (Sesaferisi terminia!)<br />
Seqmnis SesaZleblobac, sazogadoebis<br />
yuradRebis arenazec<br />
is unda iyos. xolo am dros wmidaTawmida<br />
saxelmwifo enisTvis<br />
arc erTi arsebobs, arc _ meore<br />
da arc _ mesame. es, bunebrivia,<br />
gamrudebaa, cnobierebis gadaxraa<br />
imitom, rom saxelmwifo enaze<br />
maRla, saxelmwifos garda, sxva<br />
araferi arsebobs. saxelmwifo ena<br />
aris saxelmwifos pirveli mdgeneli<br />
(ara mxolod Semadgeneli), anu<br />
is, rac qmnis saxelmwifos. enobrivi<br />
sakiTxi mTavari gamaerTianebelia,<br />
Cveni saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
identobis (erovnuli identobis,<br />
TavisTavad) mTavari konstruqtori<br />
aris saxelmwifo ena da rog-<br />
saqarTvelos merve mowvevis parlamentma 2015 wlis 22 ivliss<br />
miiRo kanoni „saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb”, romlis normaTa umete-<br />
si nawili 2016 wlis 1-li ianvridan, danarCeni ki imave wlis 1-li<br />
Tebervlidan unda amoqmedebuliyo. kerZod, kanonis safuZvelze,<br />
specialuri mizniT, unda Seqmniliyo „saxelmwifo enis departa-<br />
menti” _ sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli piri, romelsac 2016 wlis<br />
1-li Tebervlidan unda daewyo funqcionireba, departamentis<br />
wardginebiT ki saqarTvelos mTavrobas 2016 wlis 14 aprilamde<br />
unda daemtkicebina qarTuli saliteraturo enis normebi da<br />
teqnologiuri standartebi, romelTa dacvac savaldebuloa.<br />
32<br />
Tamar oTiaSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
saxelmwifo enis departamentis<br />
debulebasa da struqturaze saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobas unda ezruna,<br />
misi Tavmjdomare ki premier-ministrs<br />
unda daeniSna. mas Semdeg<br />
weliwadze meti gavida, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
kanonSi gawerili vadis<br />
miuxedavad, arc saxelmwifo enis<br />
departamenti Seqmnila da premier-ministrsac<br />
aravin dauniSnavs<br />
departamentis Tavmjdomared.<br />
ratom ar xerxdeba kanonis aRsruleba?<br />
ra problemebis gamo<br />
dairRva parlamentis mier gawerili<br />
vada? isev dgas Tu ara dRis<br />
wesrigSi saxelmwifo enis depatamentis<br />
Seqmnis sakiTxi, romlis<br />
uSualo regulirebis sfero enis<br />
normebis dacva da enis gamdidreba<br />
iqneba? igi xom, rogorc kanon-<br />
Si vkiTxulobT, „aris saxelmwifo<br />
enis konstituciuri statusis<br />
dacvisa da popularizaciis, qarTuli<br />
saliteraturo enis normebisa<br />
da specialur terminTa<br />
dadgenisa da damkvidrebis uzrunvelmyofi<br />
da saxelmwifo enis er-<br />
Tiani politikis ganmaxorcielebeli<br />
organo”?<br />
rogorc saqarTvelos parlamentis<br />
ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa<br />
da kulturis komitetis Tavmjdomare<br />
mariam jaSi acxadebs, „samwuxarod,<br />
2016 wels, jerjerobiT,<br />
misTvis ucnobi mizezebiT, aRniSnuli<br />
departamenti ver dakompleqtda<br />
da ver Camoyalibda”. piradad<br />
mas ki axla, aRniSnul sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, konsultaciebi<br />
aqvs dawyebuli rogorc saqar-<br />
Tvelos mTavrobis administraciasTan,<br />
aseve ganaTlebis sistemisa<br />
da parlamentis xelmZRvanelobasTan:<br />
„didi imedi maqvs, am sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT Tebervlis<br />
bolomde gveqneba Camoyalibebuli<br />
samomavlo gegma da xedva”, _<br />
ambobs qalbatoni mariami.<br />
e. i. SeiZleba vifiqroT, rom<br />
saxelmwifo enis departamentis<br />
Seqmnis sakiTxi kvlav dgas dRis<br />
wesrigSi, Tebervlis bolomde didi<br />
dro ar rCeba da vnaxoT, rogor<br />
ganviTardeba movlenebi. magram<br />
manamde, Tundac qalbatoni<br />
mariamisTvis „jerjerobiT ucnob<br />
mizezebze” (sazogadoebisTvis,<br />
miT umetes) sasaubrod, „qronika+”-ma<br />
gadawyvita, merve mowvevis<br />
parlamentis ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa<br />
da kulturis komitetis<br />
TavmjdomarisTvis, batoni ivane<br />
kiRuraZisTvis miemarTa. mizezebi<br />
masze ukeTesad vin unda icodes,<br />
magram, samwuxarod, SekiTxvas rom<br />
Tavi davaneboT, „saxelmwifo enis<br />
departamenti” bolomde naTqvamic<br />
ar gvqonda, rom batonma vanom<br />
komentarze uari gangvicxada. albaT,<br />
qalbatoni mariami konsultaciebis<br />
paralelurad mizezebis<br />
garkvevas baton vanosTanac Seecdeba<br />
da amas sazogadoebasac amcnobs,<br />
Tavad mas ki qarTuli enis<br />
udidesi qomagi, filologiis mecnierebaTa<br />
doqtori, enaTmecnieri<br />
levan Rvinjilia, sajarod, socialur<br />
qselSi usvams SekiTxvas:<br />
„qalbatono mariam!<br />
„gegma da xedva” ki ara, parlamentis<br />
mier damtkicebuli kanoni<br />
gidevT win, romelSic es yvelaferi<br />
ukve gaTvaliswinebuli da<br />
gawerilia.<br />
samwuxarod, saqarTvelos premier-ministri<br />
ukve meore welia<br />
(2015 wlis 22 ivlisidan), xsenebul<br />
kanons samuSao magidis ujra-<br />
Si „amwnilebs” da parlamentis<br />
dadgenilebas ar asrulebs.<br />
_ xom ver metyviT, ra hqvia Tanamdebobis<br />
pirs, romelic kanons<br />
arRvevs?!!”<br />
***<br />
mokled, kanoni irRveva da, am<br />
etapisTvis, pasuxi, Tu rodis<br />
daarsdeba, an daarsdeba Tu ara<br />
„saxelmwifo enis departamenti”<br />
da igi qveynis sakeTildReod amuSavdeba,<br />
jerjerobiT, horizontze<br />
ar Cans. vnaxoT, mTavrobis<br />
administraciasTan, parlamentTan<br />
da ganaTlebis sistemasTan konsultaciebis<br />
Sedegad Tebervlis bolosTvis<br />
ra „samomavlo gegmasa da<br />
xedvaze” isaubrebs qalbatoni<br />
mariami?.. faqtia, rom qarTul<br />
enas namdvilad sWirdeba dacva da<br />
qveynis xelisuflebis winasaar-<br />
Cevno dapirebebSic erT-erTi ZiriTadi<br />
prioriteti swored qarTuli<br />
enis dacva da misi sakanonmdeblo<br />
uzrunvelyofa iyo. kanoni<br />
miiRes, Sedegi ki... rodemde?!<br />
Cveni qveynis enobriv mdgomar-<br />
eobasa da saxelmwifo enis dacvis<br />
sakiTxebze „qronika+”-s esaubre-<br />
ba enaTmecnieri, filologiis<br />
mecnierebaTa doqtori, profe-<br />
sori avTandil arabuli:<br />
_ batono avTandil, wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi kanonis „saxelm-<br />
wifo enis Sesaxeb” miReba ar Tu<br />
ver xerxdeboda. daaxloebiT ori<br />
wlis winaT es SesaZlebeli gaxda<br />
_ kanoni miRebulia, magram, faq-<br />
tobrivad, igi ar aRsrulda, ar<br />
Seiqmna „saxelmwifo enis depar-<br />
tamenti”, romelsac, realurad,<br />
qarTuli ena unda daecva da mis<br />
ganviTareba-gamdidrebaze ezruna...<br />
Tqveni azriT, kanonis aR-<br />
srulebas ra uSlis xels?<br />
_ es „saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb”<br />
kanonis miRebis meoTxe cda iyo.<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
damoukideblobis aRdgenis Semdeg<br />
Cven iZulebulic (moskovidan<br />
veRar movidoda esa Tu is davaleba!)<br />
gavxdiT da valdebulic, rom<br />
ukve damoukidebel saxelmwifos<br />
ezruna im faseulobebis dafasebaze,<br />
rac saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
gamoxatuleba iyo. magram kanonis<br />
SemuSavebis pirveli cda, jer<br />
kidev, 1989 wels gvqonda. me Senaxuli<br />
maqvs 1989 wlis samgverdiani,<br />
raRac saxiT ukve Camoyalibebuli<br />
kanonis proeqti, romelsac maSin<br />
baltiispireTis respublikebis<br />
gamocdilebis mixedviT vakeTebdiT.<br />
isini win iyvnen damoukideblobisTvis<br />
brZolaSi, 1988-1989<br />
wlebSi miiRes pirveli kanonebi<br />
saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb, rac ma-<br />
Sin samagaliTo precedentad Canda<br />
sabWour sivrceSi da Cvenc vemzadebodiT<br />
amisTvis... magram<br />
avTandil arabuli:<br />
`Cvens<br />
sinamdvileSi<br />
saxelmwifo<br />
enis politika<br />
ar arsebobs~<br />
qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis bedi<br />
ase waRmarTad ar warimarTa!<br />
mogexsenebaT, 90-ian wlebSi rac<br />
moxda da viRas axsovda saxelmwifo<br />
enis kanoni, Tavdayira dadga<br />
qveyana, samoqalaqo omi, sagareo<br />
omi, saomari dapirispireba ruse-<br />
TTan da ase Semdeg... mere, rogorc<br />
ki situacia cota dalagda, 1993<br />
wlidan, xelaxla daiwyo muSaoba<br />
am kanonis SesamuSaveblad. Cven ar<br />
varT monoeTnikuri saxelmwifo,<br />
amitomac aSkarad igrZnoboda,<br />
rom saxelmwifo enis konstituciuri<br />
statusi imgvarad unda daregulirebuliyo,<br />
rom winaaRmdegobebi<br />
moexsna axali sistemis formirebis<br />
mtkivneul procesSi.<br />
saxelmwifo enis kanonis, saxelmwifo<br />
enis politikis dalageba arsebiTi<br />
sakiTxia saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
Camoyalibebisa. didxans da<br />
daZabulad vmuSaobdiT maSin, gaWianurebuli<br />
krizisis pirobebSi.<br />
samuSao procesSi aqtiurad iyo<br />
CarTuli enaTmecnierebis instituti,<br />
aseve iusticiis saministro,<br />
samecniero wreebi da kanonma garkveuli<br />
saxe miiRo. magram maSin<br />
iseTi „aWrili” saSinao viTareba<br />
iyo, Zalian advilad xdeboda sazogadoebrivi<br />
SfoTis provocireba;<br />
gamocdilma provokatorebma<br />
moaxerxes, rom erovnuli umciresobebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi Tu<br />
maTi interesebi daepirispirebinaT<br />
da kanonproeqtis parlamentamde<br />
mitanac ar moxerxda... es<br />
iyo meore cda. aqve minda, xazi gavusva<br />
erT kanonzomierebas: aSkarad<br />
gamoCnda, saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
krizisi pirdapir iyo dakavSirebuli<br />
enobrivi problemis mogvarebis<br />
„uunarobasTan”. niSandoblivia:<br />
Tu saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
TvalsazrisiT raRac aewyoboda,<br />
saxelmwifo enis statusis gansaz-<br />
Rvris, misi funqcionirebis areebis,<br />
saarsebo sivrcis moxazvisa da<br />
a. S. aucilebloba maSinve Cndeboda,<br />
magram rogorc ki krizisi iwyeboda,<br />
es sakiTxi arenidan imitom<br />
qreboda, rom ufro „mniSvnelovani”<br />
krizisuli problemebi iwevda<br />
wina planze.<br />
Semdegi etapi 2000-iani wlebis<br />
„misadgomebs” ukavSirdeba, roca<br />
raRac sakiTxebi, ase Tu ise, dalagda.<br />
1997 wels saxelmwifo enis<br />
palata Seiqmna, romelic enis kanonis<br />
momzadebas Caudga saTaveSi,<br />
Zalian seriozuli samuSaoebi<br />
Catarda da 2002 wlisTvis saxelmwifo<br />
enis kanoni, faqtobrivad, ma-<br />
Rali standartebiT momzadda.<br />
parlamentSi unda dawyebuliyo<br />
kidec am kanonproeqtis ganxilva,<br />
magram kvlav Sida dapirispirebam<br />
iCina Tavi (sxvaTa Soris, Cveni er-<br />
Ti problema isic aris, rom,<br />
„ratomRac”, swored strategiuli<br />
mniSvnelobis sakiTxebze ar xerxdeba<br />
Tanxmoba). seriozuli provokaciis<br />
suni igrZnoboda da institutma<br />
da universitetma erTdroulad<br />
mimarTa parlaments,<br />
rom saxelmwifo enis kanonproeqtis<br />
ganxilva droebiT gadadebuliyo.<br />
male qveynis saTaveSi axali xelisufleba<br />
movida da kanoni<br />
saerTod gaitana parlamentidan;<br />
saxelmwifo enis palata da, metic,<br />
yvela institucia gaauqmes,<br />
rac ki arsebobda. erTaderTi instituti,<br />
romelic saxelmwifo<br />
enis, ase vTqvaT, modarajed dar-<br />
Ca, enaTmecnierebis institutia,<br />
romelic dRemde, Tu SeiZleba ase<br />
iTqvas, kbilebiT aris SenarCunebuli,<br />
risi safuZvelic is gansakuTrebuli<br />
funqciaa, romelic<br />
mas istoriam daakisra...<br />
2012 wlis Semdeg isev daviwyeT<br />
saxelmwifo enis kanonze fiqri.<br />
saqarTvelos mecnierebaTa erovnuli<br />
akademiis iniciativiT specialuri<br />
jgufi Seiqmna Zalian<br />
avtoritetuli mecnierebis warmomadgenlobiT<br />
da parlaments am<br />
kanonproeqtis kidev erTi gadamuSavebuli<br />
varianti SevTavazeT.<br />
Sesabamisi komiteti, TiTqmis, orweliwadnaxevari<br />
„aWaSnikebda”<br />
parlamentSi am proeqts da, bolos,<br />
2015 wlis 22 ivliss, kanoni<br />
miiRo saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb (minda,<br />
xazi gavusva, rom kanoni erTxmad<br />
miiRes).<br />
_ barem, isic vTqvaT, vin<br />
ibrZoda kanonis miRebis winaaRm-<br />
deg?<br />
_ Cveni mezoblis Zveli agentura,<br />
romelic yovelTvis ewinaaRmdegeba<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifod<br />
Sedgomas (raTa is mere evropas<br />
miaweros): wvrilmani biurokratia,<br />
romelic yovelgvar mowesrigebaSi<br />
sakuTari interesebis<br />
sazianos xedavs; „uCemod viT imRereTa...”<br />
kategoriis inteligencia;<br />
am etapze „inkognito” jgufebi<br />
ewinaaRmdegebian departamentis<br />
Seqmnas.<br />
unda iTqvas, rom procesis aRniSnuli<br />
gaWianurebac saxelmwifoebriobis<br />
krizisis gamoxatulebaa.<br />
roca saxelmwifoebrivi cnobiereba<br />
Camoyalibebuli ar aris _<br />
es exeba sazogadoebasac da xe-<br />
32 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
or SeiZleba, rom Cven aTwleulebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi da bolo periodSi<br />
gansakuTrebiT, roca evropuli<br />
sivrcis pirobebis miRebas<br />
vapirebT, amaze vambobdeT<br />
uars?! evropuli kultura swored<br />
is aris, rom saxelmwifo enas<br />
Tavisi adgili hqondes. romel<br />
ganviTarebul, an Tavmoyvare ganviTarebad<br />
qveyanaSic ar unda SexvideT,<br />
pirvelive nabijis gadadgmisas<br />
igrZnobT, rom iq saxelmwifo<br />
enas sakuTari adgili aqvs<br />
mikuTvnebuli gansazRvruli wesebiT,<br />
funqcionirebis sivrce aqvs<br />
moxazuli da mTlianobaSi im sivrceSia<br />
gabatonebuli. bunebrivia,<br />
amas ver vityviT saqarTveloze,<br />
Cvens sinamdvileSi ki, faqtobriv,<br />
saxelmwifo enis politika ar arsebobs!<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” saarCevno<br />
programaSi Sedioda sakiTxebi,<br />
romlebic namdvilad faseuloba-<br />
Ta wina planzea, maT Soris, saxelmwifo<br />
enis daregulirebis sakiTxi<br />
da biZina ivaniSvili, Semdeg<br />
irakli RaribaSvili da axali premieri<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvilic aRiareben<br />
saxelmwifo enis kanonisa<br />
da saxelmwifo enis dacvis aucileblobas,<br />
magram, realurad, nabijis<br />
gadadgma ar xerxdeba, rac<br />
samwuxaroa. struqturas ra erqmeva,<br />
es ki ar aris arsebiTi (sxvadasxva<br />
saxelmwifoSi sxvadasxvanairi<br />
struqtura Seqmnila saamisod),<br />
mTavaria, rom kanonis ganxorcielebis<br />
makontrolebeli saxelmwifo<br />
struqtura arsebobdes (da<br />
es asec gansazRvra miRebulma<br />
kanonma). zogi saqmeSi Cauxedavi<br />
ambobs: xom arsebobs enaTmecnierebis<br />
instituti, xom swavlobs<br />
saxelmwifo enas? ra Tqma unda,<br />
Seiswavlis mecnierulad, enis ganviTarebis<br />
kanonebsa da wesebsac<br />
SeimuSavebs, magram am kanonebs<br />
verc daamtkicebs da verc danergavs.<br />
mas makontrolebeli funqcia<br />
ar aqvs da, cxadia, verc saxelmwifo<br />
enis funqcionirebas gaakontrolebs.<br />
amisTvis saWiroa<br />
saxelmwifo struqtura, moqnili,<br />
mobiluri institucia, romelic<br />
yvela mimarTulebiT gaakontrolebs<br />
saxelmwifo enis funqcionirebis<br />
amieridan ukve kanoniT gaazrebulsa<br />
da gansazRvrul samoqmedo<br />
„rukas”.<br />
_ konkretulad ra sferoebs<br />
sWirdeba gansakuTrebuli kon-<br />
troli?<br />
_ es aris, upirveles yovlisa,<br />
ganaTleba. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom,<br />
jerjerobiT, saxelmwifo enis<br />
gavrcelebis, danergvis TvalsazrisiT<br />
saxelmwifoebrivi politika<br />
Tanmimdevruli ar aris. es<br />
Seexeba rogorc saskolo ganaTlebas,<br />
gansakuTrebiT araqarTulenovani<br />
regionebis skolebSi<br />
saxelmwifo enis swavlebas, ise<br />
umaRlesi ganaTlebis sistemasac,<br />
sadac saxelmwifo enis adgili<br />
aRar arsebobs. zogan saerTod gaqra<br />
saxelmwifo ena, TiTqos saWiro<br />
aRar iyos, TviT Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />
universitetSic ki, Sei-<br />
Zleba iTqvas, rom mas simboluri<br />
adgiliRa aqvs mikuTvnebuli.<br />
es aris, aseve, masmedia, romelic,<br />
zogadad, mediis kanoniT regulirdeba,<br />
magram enobrivi funqcionirebis<br />
TvalsazrisiT erTerTi<br />
is sferoa, romelsac Zalian<br />
didi xelSewyoba, mxardaWera da<br />
iseTi specifikuri instruqciebi<br />
sWirdeba, riTac Tanamimdevrulad<br />
ganaviTarebs, gaaumjobesebs<br />
Tavis enobriv „meurneobas”. Tavisufali<br />
media didi monapovaria<br />
da mas uamravi pozitiuri aspeqti<br />
aqvs, magram, amave dros, enobrivi<br />
procesebis ase Tavisuflad miSveba<br />
ar SeiZleba. didi saxelmwifoebic<br />
ki ar aZleven Tavs uflebas,<br />
rom TviTdinebaze iyos miSvebuli<br />
saxelmwifo enis ganviTareba.<br />
cnobilia, rom cocxal enaSi<br />
mudmivad mimdinareobs cvlilebebi.<br />
garkveul doneze es cvlilebebi<br />
raodenobrivi xasiaTisaa (magaliTad,<br />
leqsikis SemoWra), rac<br />
Semdeg, Turme, TvisobrivSi gadadis,<br />
anu iseTi procesebi iCens<br />
Tavs, romelic Seuqcevadia. Cvens<br />
enobriv sinamdvileSi amis niSnebi<br />
aris...<br />
mniSvnelovania regionebSi saxelmwifo<br />
enis srulfasovani funqcionirebis<br />
sakiTxi. sxvaTa Soris,<br />
kanonproeqtis ganxilvis<br />
dros SiSobdnen, rom am regioneb-<br />
Si isev Zveli meqanizmiT moxerxdeboda<br />
protestis provocireba.<br />
sabednierod, Cveni moqalaqeebis<br />
politikuri cnobiereba ufro<br />
metad gaizarda, vidre zogierTi<br />
„moRvawis”. dRes sayovelTao Segnebaa<br />
imisa, rom saxelmwifo enis<br />
flobis gareSe moqalaqeobrivi<br />
uflebebis ganxorcielebis Sesa-<br />
Zlebloba SezRudulia da amas<br />
Tavadve usvamdnen xazs. kanonproeqtis<br />
ganxilvis dros regionebidanac<br />
iyvnen Camosulebi da<br />
erTma mamakacma pirdapir Tqva, _<br />
me ra simwarec vnaxe cxovrebaSi<br />
imis gamo, rom qarTuli ar vicodi,<br />
sulac ar maqvs survili, Cemma<br />
Svilmac aseTive simware iwvnios,<br />
amitomac aswavleTo! regionebSi<br />
seriozuli Segnebaa imisa, rom saxelmwifo<br />
ena saTanadod iswavlebodes,<br />
magram saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
kontroli sWirdeba, rom es saqme<br />
swor niadagze dadges. amas xazs<br />
imitom vusvam, rom araqarTulenovani<br />
kontingentis momzadebis mimarTulebiT<br />
saxelmwifo resursebi<br />
ixarjeba, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
Sedegi mcirea. gasuli wlis bolos<br />
evrosabWos Tbilisis ofisis<br />
egidiT konferencia Catarda,<br />
romelzec eqspertebi gamovidnen<br />
da kritikulad Seafases viTareba.<br />
e. i. rac ixarjeba, imasac ver<br />
vimkiT. ratom? imitom, rom es<br />
kerZo iniciativebis sagania, ar<br />
aris erTiani midgoma, erTiani saxelmwifo<br />
politika, amitomac<br />
Sedegi ver gveqneba.<br />
_ anu, praqtikulad, saqarT-<br />
veloSi ar tardeba saxelmwifo<br />
enis gamyarebis politika.<br />
_ diax, erTiani saxelmwifo<br />
politika ar aris Camoyalibebuli...<br />
kanonis Tanaxmad, gasuli<br />
wlis 1-li Tebervlidan saxelmwifo<br />
enis departamenti unda amoqmedebuliyo,<br />
programebi da saxelmwifo<br />
enis normebi unda mieRoT.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, saxelmwifo enis<br />
programac SemuSavebuli gvqonda<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
sxva trasebzec. saerTod, regionebSi<br />
rom CaxvideT, yvelgan erTi<br />
da igive Tavmoubmeli mdgomareobaa.<br />
arada, es kanonis mixedviT<br />
gansazRvrulia. garda amisa, mi-<br />
TiTebulia, rom departamentma da<br />
iq moqmedma komisiam wesebi unda<br />
daadginos, rogor, sad, ra rigiT<br />
da ra formiT unda ganTavsdes<br />
warwera. savaldebulo ar aris,<br />
rom warwera orenovani iyos, es<br />
aravis mouTxovia. aris obieqtebi,<br />
romelzedac saxelmwifoenovani<br />
warwerac sruliad sakmarisia.<br />
unda ganisazRvros zoma da wona<br />
im gare warwerebisa, romlebic<br />
xSirad saSinlad amaxinjebs da<br />
aWuWyianebs Cvens mSvenier dedaqalaqs<br />
da Crdils ayenebs mis<br />
kulturas. ratom unda iyos valutis<br />
gadamxurdaveblis warwera<br />
ufro didi, vidre, vTqvaT, romelime<br />
keTilSobili dawesebulebisa,<br />
sruliad gaugebaria da amas<br />
kontroli sWirdeba, xom?..<br />
_ imedia, saxelmwifo droze<br />
izrunebs...<br />
_ ukiduresad momwifda vi-<br />
Tareba saxelmwifo enis dafasebisTvis.<br />
Cven Tu evropuli ojaxisken<br />
mivdivarT da evropis karze<br />
vakakunebT, iq elodebian pasuxs<br />
ara imaze, Tu risTvis, ris misaRebad<br />
movdivarT, aramed imaze, Tu<br />
ra faseuloba migvaqvs am did<br />
ojaxSi? da Cven gvaqvs is, riTac,<br />
SeiZleba, Rirseulad warvdgeT _<br />
Cveni uzarmazari istoriiT, rogorc<br />
qristianuli qveynisa da erisa;<br />
Zalian faseuli, unikaluri<br />
kulturiT da Zalian didi saxelmwifo<br />
eniT... es is faseulobebia,<br />
romlebic mudam wina planze<br />
unda gvqondes wamoweuli, romlebic<br />
arc inflacias eqvemdebareba<br />
da arc devalvacias, radgan<br />
maradiul Rirebulebas warmoadgens...<br />
ra kanons<br />
`amwnilebs~<br />
premier-<br />
ministri<br />
samuSao<br />
magidis<br />
ujraSi?<br />
da normatiuli standartebic.<br />
Cveni mxriv, rogorc mecnierebi,<br />
Cvens movaleobas vixdiT da yovelwliurad<br />
araerT siaxles vTavazobT<br />
Cvens sazogadoebas, magram,<br />
jerjerobiT, iseTi STabeWdileba<br />
rCeba, rom es yvelaferi aravis<br />
araferSi sWirdeba. saxelmwifo<br />
enis Temas qveynis cxovrebaSi, samwuxarod,<br />
kanonieri adgili, jer<br />
kidev, mosapovebeli aqvs da amaSi<br />
medias gansakuTrebuli roli<br />
ekisreba...<br />
mogexsenebaT, dRes parlaments<br />
axali Semadgenloba da ganaTlebis,<br />
mecnierebisa da kulturis komitetsac<br />
axali Tavmjdomare<br />
hyavs. saxelmwifo enis kanonis<br />
miReba komitetis maSindeli Tavmjdomaris,<br />
batoni ivane kiRuraZis<br />
didi damsaxurebaa, piradad man<br />
didi Sroma Cado am saqmeSi, magram<br />
batoni ivanes parlamentSi yofnis<br />
periodSi kanonis ganazraxTa realizeba<br />
ar moeswro. axla komitetis<br />
Tavmjdomarea qalbatoni mariam<br />
jaSi, romelTanac ukve gvqonda<br />
saubari da misi damokidebulebac,<br />
sabednierod, dadebiTia. mgoni,<br />
amjerad mainc (sjobs gvian, vidre<br />
arasdros), samarTali Tavis<br />
gzas ipovis. imedi maqvs da sxvanairad<br />
ar SemiZlia: ver Seveguebi<br />
azrs, rom es umarTavi procesi,<br />
es ganukiTxaoba usasrulod<br />
gagrZeldes, sadRac aucileblad<br />
unda damTavrdes. 25 wlis mcdelobis<br />
Semdeg iqamde mivediT, rom<br />
kanoni Camoyalibda, sxvaTa Soris,<br />
Zalian srulyofili kanoni. axla<br />
im gadawyvetilebamdec mivalT,<br />
roca saxelmwifo Seqmnis struqturas,<br />
romelic yvelafer amas<br />
gaakontrolebs, saxelmwifo enis<br />
politikas ganaxorcielebs. ufro<br />
farTod, ra Tqma unda, es aris<br />
saxelmwifos enobrivi politika,<br />
romliTac iwyeba ganaTlebac,<br />
mecnierebac, mediac, saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurebic... sxvaTa Soris, Cven<br />
gamosacemad ukve mzad gvaqvs „sajaro<br />
moxelis leqsikoni”. sajaro<br />
samsaxurebis sfero ara marto imitom<br />
aris kritikis sagani, rom moqalaqe<br />
saWiro pasuxs ver iRebs<br />
elementaruli sakiTxis dasmis<br />
dros, aramed imiTac, rom enobrivad<br />
iseTi dokumentebi iqmneba,<br />
iseTi gankargulebebi da brZanebulebebi<br />
gamoicema, moqalaqeebs<br />
CvenTan moaqvT da gvekiTxebian,<br />
gangvimarteT, aq ra weriao. roca<br />
saTanado struqtura iarsebebs,<br />
msgavsi ram ar moxdeba, radgan is<br />
struqtura winaswar gaakontrolebs<br />
im dokumentebsa da kanonebs,<br />
romelTa wakiTxva calsaxa,<br />
erTazrovani unda iyos...<br />
_ enobrivi TvalsazrisiT Zir-<br />
iTadi problema, rac yvelaze<br />
metad TvalsaCinoa, ra aris?<br />
_ SinaurisTvisac da gareSesTvisac<br />
TvalSi sacemia gare warwerebi.<br />
Tanamedrove cxovreba ise-<br />
Tia, rom yvelaferi gareT aris<br />
gamotanili: reklamebi, aTasnairi<br />
firniSebi, ganaTebebi da a. S. rac<br />
qalaqis iersaxes qmnis. Rame rom<br />
gaiaroT, Tbilisi visi dedaqalaqia,<br />
ver gaigebT, babilonis godols<br />
hgavs... am TvalsazrisiT aranaklebi<br />
problemaa regionebSi. da<br />
ara mxolod araqarTulenovan regionebSi.<br />
daiTvales da Tbilisidan<br />
sarfamde ori aTasze meti<br />
araqarTulenovani warweraa gakeTebuli.<br />
aseTive viTarebaa Tbilisi-yazbegis<br />
mimarTulebiT da<br />
_ am yvelafris fonze Tqveni<br />
saTqmeli ra aris, batono<br />
avTandil?<br />
_ departamentis Tema ar Sei-<br />
Zleba, spekulaciis sagani iyos.<br />
struqtura SeiZleba aRmoCndes<br />
fuWi da uqmi mxolod maSin, Tu<br />
saxelmwifo politika ar arsebobs.<br />
saxelmwifo enis sferoSi<br />
politika unda Camoyalibdes,<br />
Zalian seriozulad unda miexedos<br />
yvela im instituciasa da yvela<br />
im sferos, sadac saxelmwifo<br />
ena funqcionirebs. SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
enaTmecnierebis instituti<br />
daarsebis dRidan is umTavresi<br />
dawesebulebaa, romelic gegmazomierad<br />
swavlobs saxelmwifo<br />
enis ganviTarebas, mis istoriasa<br />
da Tanamedroveobas. swored is<br />
iyo qarTuli enis mudmivi saxelmwifo<br />
komisiis sabazo instituti,<br />
magram is saxelmwifo enis erTi<br />
frTaa da mas meore frTiT sWirdeba<br />
gawonasworeba, romelic saxelmwifoebriv<br />
nebas ganaxorcielebs.<br />
maSin saxelmwifo enis arseboba<br />
Tanamedrove mRelvare sivrceSi<br />
namdvilad simyares SeiZens.<br />
ai, am TvalTaxedviT vuyurebT<br />
Cven kanonsac da misi aRsrulebis<br />
aucileblobasac da veravin Segviryevs<br />
imis rwmenas, rom es pirveli<br />
rigis saxelmwifoebrivi sakiTxia.<br />
saqarTvelos kanoni saxelmwifo<br />
enis Sesaxeb<br />
Tavi XII<br />
gardamavali da daskvniTi<br />
debulebebi<br />
muxli 40. kanonis amoqmedebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT gansaxorcielebeli<br />
RonisZiebebi<br />
1. 2016 wlis 1-l Tebervlamde:<br />
a) saqarTvelos mTavrobam daamtkicos<br />
sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli<br />
piris _ saxelmwifo enis<br />
departamentis debuleba da<br />
struqtura, gansazRvros misi<br />
qonebis Seqmnis wesi;<br />
b) saqarTvelos premier-ministrma<br />
Tanamdebobaze daniSnos saxelmwifo<br />
enis departamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare.<br />
2. 2016 wlis 14 aprilamde<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobam daamtkicos:<br />
a) saxelmwifo enis erTiani<br />
programa;<br />
b) qarTuli saliteraturo<br />
enis normebi da terminologiuri<br />
standartebi;<br />
g) saxelmwifo enis gamocdis<br />
Catarebis wesi.<br />
3. saqarTvelos finansTa saministrom<br />
„saqarTvelos 2016 wlis<br />
saxelmwifo biujetis Sesaxeb”<br />
saqarTvelos kanonis proeqtis<br />
momzadebisas uzrunvelyos masSi<br />
am kanonidan gamomdinare sabiujeto<br />
saxsrebis asaxva.<br />
muxli 41. kanonis amoqmedeba<br />
1. es kanoni, garda am kanonis<br />
33-e, 34-e, 36-e da 37-e muxlebisa,<br />
amoqmeddes 2016 wlis 1-li ianvridan.<br />
2. am kanonis 36-e muxlis 1-lime-5<br />
punqtebi, me-6 punqtis „a”-„v”,<br />
„T” da „i” qvepunqtebi da me-7-me-<br />
10 punqtebi amoqmeddes 2016 wlis<br />
1-li Tebervlidan.<br />
3. am kanonis 33-e da 34-e muxlebi,<br />
36-e muxlis me-6 punqtis „z”<br />
qvepunqti da 37-e muxli amoqmeddes<br />
2016 wlis 14 Tebervlidan”.<br />
P. S. sxvaTa Soris, gasul wels<br />
aRniSnul departamentze saxelm-<br />
wifo biujetidan 300 aTasi lari<br />
gamoiyo, 2017 wels ki am mniSvn-<br />
elovani sakiTxis gadasaWrelad<br />
Tanxa saxelmwifo biujetidan<br />
aravis gamouyvia.<br />
33
599 97 25 55<br />
ekonomikis ganviTarebis sak-<br />
iTxebi iseTive aqtualuria, rogorc gasuli aTwleulebis<br />
manZilze. SeiZleba iTqvas, ufro aqtualuricaa, vidre aqam-<br />
de. ekonomikuri xedvis Camoyalibeba, sxva mizezebTan erTad,<br />
imitom aris prioriteti, rom ocwliani damoukideblobis<br />
manZilze pirvelad moxerxda Zalauflebis mSvidobiani gziT<br />
Secvla da Sesabamisad, demokratiuli ganviTarebisken erT-<br />
erTi yvelaze gardamtexi nabiji gadaidga.<br />
34<br />
Tu am dadebiTi movlenis gamoyeneba<br />
da SenarCuneba gvinda, ekonomikur<br />
ganviTarebas gansaku-<br />
Trebuli yuradReba unda davuTmoT.<br />
farTod gavrcelebuli siRaribe<br />
da uTanasworoba aucileblad<br />
iqceva politikuri destabilizaciis,<br />
an demokratiuli<br />
procesebis ukusvlis mizezi, rac<br />
socialuri problemebis mogvarebis<br />
droSi gadadebas iwvevs.<br />
msgavsi scenarebis Tavidan asarideblad<br />
aucileblad unda moxerxdes<br />
mZime socialuri problemebis<br />
Semsubuqeba, rac grZelvadian<br />
perspeqtivaSi, ekonomikis<br />
ganviTarebis xedvis gareSe, Seu-<br />
Zlebelia.<br />
Cveni xelisufleba, am etapze,<br />
sazogadoebasTan ganviTarebis<br />
zogadi xedvis komunikacias gansakuTrebuli<br />
mondomebiT ar<br />
cdilobs. am viTarebaSi mniSvnelovania,<br />
Tavadve davsvaT kiTxvebi,<br />
moviTxovoT socialur-ekonomikuri<br />
politikis sinTezi, gamovyoT<br />
arsebuli problemebi,<br />
gamoviTxovoT informacia yvela<br />
aucilebel gadawyvetilebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. mniSvnelovania, vin<br />
gansazRvravs yoveldRiuri debatebis<br />
dRis wesrigs.<br />
saxelmwifo rom ojaxs hgavs,<br />
es axali ambavi ar aris. Sesabamisad,<br />
rogorc yvela ojaxs, iseve<br />
saxelmwifos, an nebismier municipalitets<br />
sWirdeba ekonomikuri<br />
strategia.<br />
daaxloebiT ori kviris winaT<br />
qalaq Telavis municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulos qonebisa da ekonomikuri<br />
marTvis komisias weriliT<br />
mivmarTe da moviTxove:<br />
gTxovT, momceT uZravi da<br />
moZravi qonebis CamonaTvali da<br />
qalaq Telavis municipalitetis<br />
ekonomikuri marTvis 2017 wlis<br />
strategia. municipaliteti sagonebelSi<br />
Cavarda da ver mixvda,<br />
ras viTxovdi. pasuxi ki martivia,<br />
_ viTxovdi samarTlebriv<br />
aqts, sadac gawerili unda yofiliyo,<br />
rogor xarjavs qalaq<br />
Telavis municipalitetis meria<br />
10 milionamde lars? ra strategiuli<br />
gegmebi gvaqvs ekonomikuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT? ra SesaZlo<br />
mogeba SeiZleba movutanoT qalaqis<br />
mosaxleobas aRniSnuli<br />
Tanxis dasaxarjad? da ra SesaZlo<br />
problemebi SeiZleba gaCndes<br />
2017 wels?<br />
maT, ekonomikuri strategiis<br />
nacvlad, 2017 wlis qalaq Telavis<br />
biujeti momces, sadac erTi<br />
winadadebiT weria, rom strategia<br />
gvaqvs infrastruqturaSi,<br />
ganaTebaSi da a.S.<br />
1 weliwadi mokle droa... 10<br />
milioni ki _ didi fuli...<br />
moklevadiani strategia miznebis<br />
misaRwevad, romelic Cveulebrivad<br />
muSavdeba marTvis sa-<br />
Sualo doneze, drois ufro m-<br />
okle monakveTzea gaTvaliswinebuli,<br />
vidre strategia (Cveulebriv,<br />
erTi weliwadi).<br />
erTjeradi cvlileba, rog-<br />
maka mosiaSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
ori unikaluri da warmatebulic<br />
ar unda iyos igi, ar aris sakmarisi<br />
SedegebisTvis. aucilebelia<br />
aseTi siaxleebis uwyvetoba, ris<br />
gareSec SeuZlebelia darCe yuradRebis<br />
centrSi. am ukanasknelis<br />
gareSe ki warmateba sul ufro<br />
cvalebadi xdeba.<br />
da radgan Cemi qalaqis verc<br />
sakrebulos aRniSnulma komisiam<br />
gamca pasuxi, sad unda gvqondes<br />
gawerili ekonomikuri strategia,<br />
maSin amisTvis martivi magaliTis<br />
moyvana gadavwyvite...<br />
socialur qselSi arsebul vinme<br />
jemals gamoviyeneb da avxsni:<br />
Telavi da misi<br />
ekonomikuri krizisi<br />
`daaxloebiT ori kviris win qalaq Telavis<br />
municipalitetis sakrebulos qonebisa da<br />
ekonomikuri marTvis komisias weriliT<br />
mivmarTe da moviTxove:<br />
gTxovT, momceT uZravi da moZravi qonebis<br />
CamonaTvali da qalaq Telavis<br />
municipalitetis ekonomikuri marTvis 2017<br />
wlis strategia. municipaliteti<br />
sagonebelSi Cavarda da ver mixvda, ras<br />
viTxovdi. pasuxi ki martivia, - viTxovdi<br />
samarTlebriv aqts, sadac gawerili unda<br />
yofiliyo, rogor xarjavs qalaq Telavis<br />
municipalitetis meria 10 milionamde<br />
lars? ra strategiuli gegmebi gvaqvs<br />
ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT? ra SesaZlo<br />
mogeba SeiZleba movutanoT qalaqis<br />
mosaxleobas aRniSnuli Tanxis dasaxarjad?<br />
da ra SesaZlo problemebi SeiZleba gaCndes<br />
2017 wels?<br />
maT, ekonomikuri strategiis nacvlad, 2017<br />
wlis qalaq Telavis biujeti momces, sadac<br />
erTi winadadebiT weria, rom strategia<br />
gvaqvs infrastruqturaSi, ganaTebaSi da a.S.<br />
1 weliwadi mokle droa... 10 milioni ki -<br />
didi fuli...~<br />
jemals ojaxi aqvs, ori Svili<br />
da meuRle hyavs, jemals weliwadSi<br />
10 000 lari aqvs Semosavali,<br />
jemalma icis, rom es 10 000<br />
lari sworad unda daxarjos:<br />
lariT aswavlos Svilebs, gamokvebos<br />
ojaxi da swori strategiiT<br />
marTos ojaxis biujeti. an<br />
jemals SeuZlia, yoveli Tvis bolos<br />
aRebuli xelfasi ojaxisTvis<br />
ar daxarjos, wavides sadme<br />
restoranSi da erT vaxSamSi gadaixados<br />
800 lari, magram jemali<br />
amas ar akeTebs da iciT, ratom?<br />
jemalma icis, roca is moxucdeba,<br />
misi Svilebi unda iyvnen<br />
ojaxis patronebi da maT Tu ar<br />
misca ganaTleba, dRes Tu maT ar<br />
uyida fexsacmeli, isini skolaSi<br />
ver ivlian, rac imas niSnavs, rom<br />
roca jemals Sroma aRar SeeZleba,<br />
verc misi Svilebi SeZleben ganaTlebis<br />
gareSe miiRon maRalanazRaurebadi<br />
samsaxuri. amitom<br />
jemals Tavisi ojaxis ekonomikuri<br />
strategia sworad aqvs gawerili.<br />
realurad, gasuli wlebis magaliTze<br />
Tu vimsjelebT, municipalitetis<br />
umaRlesi Tanamdebo-<br />
bis pirebsa da sakrebulos deputatebs<br />
imdeni sawvavi aqvT gawerili<br />
biujetSi, rom dReSi, sa-<br />
Sualod, 15 lirti benzinis dawva<br />
mouwevT. aseve deputatebs,<br />
romelTac biujeti sawvavis saxiT<br />
airs aZlevs, jer sami wlis<br />
manZilze arc erTi Ria da sajaro<br />
Sexvedra ar CautarebiaT mosaxleobasTan,<br />
sadac erToblivad<br />
ganixilavdnen biujetis mar-<br />
Tvas da xalxisTvis aucilebel<br />
saWiroebebs.<br />
magaliTad, socialur programebSi<br />
2017 wels aRar gvaqvs<br />
erTjeradi daxmareba socialurad<br />
daucvelebisTvis, romelic<br />
weliwadSi mxolod 42 000 lari<br />
jdeboda. samagierod, administraciuli<br />
xarji milion laramde<br />
adis. 2017 wels TelavSi socialurad<br />
daucvelTa ricxvi<br />
imaze metad aris gazrdili, vidre<br />
2014 wels iyo.<br />
sakrebulos qonebis marTvisa<br />
da ekonomikis komisias ar aqvs<br />
arc qonebrivi balansis Sesaxeb<br />
arsebuli dokumenti. anu municipalitetSi<br />
ar ician, ra Tanxis<br />
qonebis patronia qalaqi Telavi.<br />
ar aqvT obeqtebis arc cveTisa<br />
da arc qonebis Rirebulebebis<br />
CamonaTvali.<br />
saerTo daskvnis fonze qalaqi,<br />
romelsac mniSvnelovani<br />
strategiuli roli ukavia regionSi,<br />
aris regionuli administraciuli<br />
centri, aqvs turizmis<br />
ganviTarebis maRali potenciali,<br />
2017 wlis strategiuli<br />
gegma ar gaaCnia, Tu rogor ganviTardeba<br />
ekonomika TelavSi.<br />
arc sakrebulos deputatebs<br />
aqvT iniciativebi, erTxel mainc<br />
moawyon sajaro ganxilva an Sexvedra<br />
mosaxleobis mowyvlad<br />
jgufebTan.<br />
dava rTulia, magram simarTle<br />
advilad dasadgenia. TviTmmarTveli<br />
Telavis sakrebulos aparatis<br />
debulebis me-8 muxlSi weria,<br />
rom T) qvepunqti: aparatis TanamSromelma<br />
(pressamsaxuri) unda<br />
uzrunvelyos municipalitetis<br />
vebgverdze gansaTavsebeli informaciis<br />
momzadeba: sadac unda<br />
gamoqveyndes yvela dadgenileba,<br />
amavdroulad, deputatebis mier<br />
yvela Sexvedra mosaxleobasTan.<br />
Tumca municipalitetis oficialur<br />
vebgverdze welTaRricxva<br />
gaCerebulia da is 2016 wlis 10<br />
agvistos mdgomareobiT gamoiyureba.<br />
sanacvlod biujetidan<br />
municipaliteti pressamsaxurTa<br />
Sesanaxad, daaxloebiT, imdenive<br />
lars xarjavs, ramdenic siRatakis<br />
zRvars miRma asobiT moqalaqis<br />
erTjeradi daxmarebisTvis<br />
unda daexarja.<br />
da roca ikiTxavT, _ kidev ra<br />
aris ekonomikuri strategiao? _<br />
maSin waikiTxeT sabiujeto kanonmdebloba;<br />
gadaxedeT Tqvensave<br />
TanamSromlebis mier Tveebis man-<br />
Zilze usaqmurobis TvalsaCino<br />
nimuSebs da mixvdebiT, rom eg 10<br />
milioni saqulas duqnis ki ara,<br />
Telavelebisaa. im Telavelebis<br />
romlebsac arc erTxel ar waukiTxavT<br />
da arc unaxavT, sad ixarjeba<br />
qalaqis fuli.<br />
P. S. 2016 wlis bolos qalaqs<br />
TiTqmis erTi milioni lari<br />
darCa auTvisebeli. ratom?! arc<br />
gasul wels gqoniaT ekonomik-<br />
uri strategia, radgan ar iciT,<br />
ra ras emsaxureba...<br />
34 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
Tamar batiaSvili<br />
593 61 74 15<br />
ratom iReben diskreciul<br />
gadawyvetilebebs saqarTvelos sajaro samsaxurebSi? _ am<br />
sakiTxs administraciul mecnierebaTa institutma special-<br />
uri forumi miuZRvna. Tbilisis meriis arqiteqturis samsax-<br />
uris magaliTze Cinovnikebis TviTneburi gadawyvetilebebis<br />
mizezebze specialistebma imsjeles. qarTveli da ucxoeli<br />
eqspertebi gamosavals ganaTlebis amaRlebasa da sakanonmde-<br />
blo bazis daxvewaSi xedaven, raTa saqarTvelom evrokavSiris<br />
winaSe aRebuli valdebulebebi Seasrulos.<br />
„qronika+” qarTvel da ucx-<br />
oel specialistebs esaubreba.<br />
vaxtang joxaZe _ arqiteqtori,<br />
urbanisti:<br />
_ Cven, SeiZleba, individualurad<br />
ganvsazRvroT sacxovrebeli<br />
saxli, magram arqiteqturam mas SeiZleba,<br />
Zalian bevri forma misces,<br />
bevri gansxvavebuli damatebiTi<br />
funqcia, teqtonika, struqtura<br />
da, saerTod, masSi cxovrebis wesi<br />
gansxvavebuli Cados. rodesac vsaubrobT<br />
arqiteqturul regulaciaze,<br />
aq diskreciuli uflebamosileba<br />
erT-erTi Zalian seriozuli<br />
gamowvevaa. warmogidgenT ramdenime<br />
magaliTs, rasac qalaq<br />
Tbilisis arqiteqturis samsaxuri<br />
axorcielebs, es aris miwaTsargeblobis<br />
regulireba da qalaqis arqiteqturuli<br />
iersaxis regulireba.<br />
ratom arqiteqturis samsaxuri?<br />
garda imisa, rom me arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxurSi vmuSaobdi da es<br />
Cemi gamocdilebaa, mas Zalian didi<br />
pasuxismgebloba akisria _ izrunos<br />
qalaqis winaSe ganviTarebis<br />
dagegmvaze, sazogadoebisTvis misaReb<br />
ganviTarebaze _ iqneba es makromasStabebSi<br />
Tu calkeul arqiteturul<br />
obieqtebze msjelobisas.<br />
Sesabamisad, arqiteqturis samsaxuris<br />
mimarT sajaro interesi<br />
Zalian maRalia da statistika<br />
gviCvenebs, rom yovelwliurad administraciuli<br />
saqmianobis, daaxloebiT,<br />
70% arqiteqturis samsaxurze<br />
modis. advilad warmosadgenia,<br />
am warmoebis procesSi ramdenad<br />
didia maT Soris sadavo saqmeebi.<br />
diskrecia samoqalaqo enaze aris<br />
sakuTari Sexedulebisamebr sakiTxis<br />
gadawyveta, xolo specifikuri<br />
ganmartebiT, es aris kanonis<br />
mier dadgenili SesaZlo gadawyvetilebebidan<br />
yvelaze mizanSewonilisa<br />
da saukeTesos arCeva.<br />
_ es diskreciaa Tu TviTnebo-<br />
ba?<br />
_ vfiqrob, TviTneboba, romelic<br />
seriozuli gamowvevaa arqiteqturis,<br />
da ara marto am samsaxurisTvis<br />
municipalitetebis doneze.<br />
pirveli am gansxvavebuli<br />
midgomebis wyebaSi, romelic maTi<br />
saqmianobis Sedegad gvxvdeba, es<br />
aris qalaqgegmarebis sakiTxebi. SemTxveva,<br />
romlis monawile Tavad<br />
gaxldiT, aris erTi da imave sakiTxisadmi<br />
gansxvavebuli midgomebisa<br />
da diskreciuli uflebamosilebis<br />
gamoyenebis Zalian kargi magaliTi:<br />
mesakuTrem moiTxova zonis<br />
farglebSi, kanoniT dadgenili wesiT<br />
mSeneblobisTvis pirobebis<br />
aReba. Tavdapirvelad mas uari<br />
uTxres, romelsac safuZvlad daedo<br />
ori garemoeba: erTi iyo samarTlebrivi,<br />
masze vrceldeboda<br />
SemzRudveli zona da meore iyo<br />
faqtobrivi rTuli reliefi. rTuli<br />
reliefi ramdenad iyo SemzRudveli,<br />
es gaugebaria, imitom, rom<br />
Tbilisis ganaSenianebis wesebi pirdapir<br />
axalisebs rTul reliefze<br />
mSeneblobas, gansakuTrebiT terasuli<br />
sacxovreblis mSeneblobas,<br />
rogorc istoriulad ganpirobebuli<br />
arqetipi da qalaqis arqiteqturuli<br />
ganviTarebis saxe. rodesac<br />
garkveuli periodis Semdgom<br />
SemzRudavi zona moixsna, man isev<br />
moiTxova mSeneblobis nebarTvis<br />
miReba da samsaxurma ukve dadebi-<br />
Tad gadawyvita saqme. rogorc saqmis<br />
masalebidan irkveva, gaiTval-<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
isiwina, rom rTuli reliefi daproeqtebis<br />
amocanaa da aramc da<br />
aramc nebarTvis gacemis safuZveli,<br />
an winapiroba. proeqtis stadiaze<br />
ukve samsaxurma mesakuTrisgan<br />
moiTxova, faqtobrivad, arsebul<br />
gzaze, romelic sajaro sivrcis<br />
nawilia, samanqano gza da romli-<br />
Tac igi yoveldRiurad sargeblobs.<br />
sazogadoebrivi sivrcis ganmkargveli<br />
organosgan am gzaze moiTxova<br />
Tanxmoba, rom am misasvleliT<br />
esargebla sakuTar nakveTamde,<br />
manamde man proeqtis SeTanxmebaze<br />
uari ganacxada. es arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxurSi wminda wylis<br />
araswori praqtikaa, magram ufro<br />
mniSvnelovania, rac mere xdeba _<br />
qonebis marTvis saagento, anu sazogadoebrivi<br />
sivrcis ganmkargveli<br />
samsaxuri, isev mimarTavs arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxurs, rom qonebis<br />
gankargvaze daskvna miiRos. arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxuri aq ukve pozicias<br />
afiqsirebs, rom mas ar miaCnia<br />
mizanSewonilad ganikargos<br />
es qoneba misasvlelisTvis. mizanSewonilad<br />
ar miaCnia _ es aris<br />
gadawyvetilebis erTaderTi dasabuTebuli<br />
teqsti. safuZvelSi<br />
miTiTebulia absoluturad sxva<br />
sakanonmdeblo CarCo, Tumca mizanSewoniloba<br />
ris safuZvelzea<br />
gansazRvruli, es saerTod ar aris<br />
miTiTebuli. es aris erTgvari jadosnuri<br />
sityva arqiteqturis samsaxuris<br />
praqtikaSi, romliTac xSirad<br />
„asabuTebs” Tavis gadawyvetilebebs.<br />
es aris SemTxveva, rodesac<br />
sami samarTlebrivi SeuTavsebloba<br />
gvaqvs: pirveli _ Tavis droze,<br />
pirobebSi gaTavliswinebuli da<br />
Cadebuli ar iyo, rodesac miwis nakveTis<br />
samSeneblod gamoyenebis<br />
pirobebi gaica. meore _ es aris<br />
araTanabari da gansxvavebuli midgoma<br />
erTi da imave sakiTxis mimarT,<br />
erTi da imave samsaxuris mxridan.<br />
bunebrivia, es araprognozirebadi<br />
qmedebaa, sadac ar aris daz-<br />
Rveuli kanonis farglebSi moTxovnili<br />
kanonieri Sedegis miRwevisTvis,<br />
pirma miiRos drouli da<br />
adekvaturi pasuxi.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, uflebam-<br />
osilebis erTmaneTSi aRreva xom<br />
ar xdeba?<br />
_ samwuxarod, es aseve xSiria<br />
administraciuli organoebis<br />
praqtikaSi. aq ganvixilavT oTx<br />
organos: arqiteqturis samsaxurs;<br />
meriis saTaTbiro organos _ sab-<br />
Wos; Tavad meris, rogorc uflebamosil,<br />
aRmasrulebel pirs da sakrebulos.<br />
xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac<br />
erTi organo gancxadebis farglebSi<br />
msjelobs da im garemoebebze<br />
dayrdnobiT iRebs gadawyvetilebebs,<br />
rac arc moTxovnis sagans<br />
warmoadgens da arc diskreciuli<br />
uflebamosilebis nawils. Semdegi<br />
magaliTia normatiuli samSeneblo<br />
normebis gadameteba _ martivad<br />
rom vTqva, ybadaRbuli #2 koeficienti<br />
TbilisSi, romliTac Zalian<br />
bevri developmentis warmomadgeneli<br />
borotad sargeblobs.<br />
moiTxova koeficientis wardgena<br />
dokumentebis safuZvelze, sabWom<br />
rekomendacia gasca, Tumca am specialuri<br />
SeTanxmebis sagamonakliso<br />
wesis gamoyenebaze uflebamosili<br />
piri qalaqis meria. saboloo<br />
gadawyvetilebas kvlav arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxuri gamoscems. erTaderTi<br />
dasabuTeba gvaqvs _ zonaluri<br />
sabWos rekomendacia, maSin<br />
rodesac es gadawyvetielba uflebamosil<br />
pirs unda mieRo, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
dedaqalaqis mers.<br />
_ ra aris am yvelafris mizezi?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, albaT, is, rom<br />
samSeneblo kanonmdebloba saqarTveloSi<br />
mouwesrigebelia, fragmentulia,<br />
sxvadasxva mizniT Seqmnil<br />
kanonebSia gafantuli da ar aris<br />
imdenad detalizebuli sanebarTvo<br />
saqmianobis kontrolSi, ramdenadac<br />
TviTon samSeneblo saqmianoba<br />
Zalian zusti da konkretulia.<br />
is unda Sedgebodes bevri teqnikuri<br />
reglamentisgan, romelic<br />
aregulirebs, rogor moiqces specialisti<br />
dawyebuli miwis nakve-<br />
Tis kvlevidan, aSenebuli Senobis<br />
eqspluataciaSi gaSvebiT dasrulebuli,<br />
es aris erT-erTi mTavari<br />
problema. Sesabamisad, rodesac<br />
samSeneblo samarTalSi ar arsebobs<br />
cxad normaTa erToblioba, am<br />
dros Semodis sajaro moxelis<br />
TviTneboba, rom man Tavisi Sexedulebisamebr,<br />
ara kanonis miznisTvis<br />
da miznidan gamomdinare gadawyvitos<br />
sakiTxi, aramed, _ Tavisi<br />
gemovnebiT. SeiZleba, is Zalian<br />
ratom akritikeben<br />
Tbilisis ganaSenianebas<br />
ucxoeli specialistebi?!<br />
gulwrfeli iyos Tavis gadawyvetilebaSi,<br />
magram is acdenilia<br />
mTavars _ daefuZnos kanons, romelic<br />
sazogadoebis SeTanxmebis sagania.<br />
_ gamosavali?<br />
_ me piradad sivrciTi mowyobisa<br />
da mSeneblobis kodeqsis proeqtze<br />
vmuSaobdi, romelic ukve<br />
saqarTvelos parlamentSi ganixileba.<br />
Cemi wvlili am proeqtSi<br />
mTlianad qalaq Tbilisis arqiteqturuli<br />
saqmianobis gamocdilebis<br />
maqsimalurad asaxva iyo, im xarvezebis<br />
gaTvaliswineba, rac zemoT<br />
aRvniSne. SeiZleba, cudi kanoni<br />
gvqondes, magram karg Sedegebs<br />
mivaRwioT. kargi Sedegebi swored<br />
im SemTxvevaSi miiRweva, Tu erTiani,<br />
sazogadoebasTan SeTanxmebiT<br />
Camoyalibebuli xedva gveqneba _<br />
saiT mivdivarT, rogorc sazogadoeba<br />
da moqalaqeebi am qalaqSi;<br />
saiTken gvinda ganviTardes es qalaqi,<br />
rom momavalSi vicxovroT<br />
jansaRad da es sivrce davutovoT<br />
Semdgom Taobebsac. dRes am<br />
TvalsazrisiT seriozuli gamowvevebi<br />
gvaqvs, ar arsebobs erTiani<br />
xedva, gvaqvs formaluri politikis<br />
fragmentebi calkeul normatiul<br />
aqtebSi, maT Soris, Tbilisis<br />
ganaSenianebis wesebSi, magram,<br />
saboloo jamSi, ar gvaqvs konsolidirebuli<br />
gegma Sejerebuli,<br />
maT Soris, biznesTanac, radgan developmentis<br />
gareSe, ubralod, mxolod<br />
sabiujeto Tanxebis amara<br />
ver ganvviTardebiT. ukve sxva wyobaSi<br />
vcxovrobT, es aris mTavari<br />
gamowveva qalaqisTvis. am sakiTxze<br />
qalaqma cota xnis win daiwyo mu-<br />
Saoba, magram, erTi SexedviT, procesebi<br />
arc Tu ise damaimedeblad<br />
midis.<br />
ulrix Stelkensi _ germaniis<br />
Spaieris administraciul mecnie-<br />
rebaTa universitetis profeso-<br />
ri:<br />
_ diskreciul uflebamosilebas,<br />
pirvel rigSi, administraciis<br />
kanonierebasTan aqvs kavSiri. es<br />
niSnavs imas, rom administraciul<br />
organos diskreciuli uflebamosilebis<br />
ganxorcieleba SeuZlia<br />
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, rodesac<br />
misTvis kanoni amis SesaZleblobas<br />
iZleva. pirvel rigSi dasadgenia<br />
faqtobrivi garemoebebis urTier-<br />
TmimarTeba gamosayenebel kanon-<br />
Tan. Tuki swor normas miusadageb<br />
araswor faqtobriv garemoebas,<br />
Sedegi analogiurad kanonsawinaaRmdego<br />
iqneba, vidre es piriqiT<br />
rom momxdariyo. administraciuli<br />
organos nebismieri gadawyvetileba<br />
unda iyos dasabuTebuli, miT<br />
umetes, Tu is adamianis uflebeb-<br />
Si ereva. germaniaSi magaliTad, arsebobs<br />
erTi swori pasuxi, romelsac<br />
bolo instanciis sasamarTlo<br />
iZleva. did britaneTSi, magali-<br />
Tad, Tu raime fataluri Secdoma<br />
ar dauSva administraciulma organom,<br />
sasamarTlo maT gadawyvetilebebs<br />
sworad miiCnevs da aRiarebs.<br />
germanul modelze Tu vimsjelebT,<br />
Cven ufro midrekilebi<br />
varT imisken, rom moqalaqeebs mo-<br />
Txovnis uflebebi mivaniWoT konkretuli<br />
administraciis qmedebebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. britaneTsa<br />
da safrangeTSi asea, rom calkeuli<br />
uflebebi unda iyos gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
gadawyvetilebebSi. amas<br />
aqvs kavSiri istoriul warsul-<br />
Tan, calkeuli kanonebis dawera-<br />
SedgenasTan, agreTve, rogor aswavlian<br />
sajaro moxeleebis. evrokavSiris<br />
farglebSi gansxavebuli<br />
warmodgena gvaqvs, Tu ras niSnavs<br />
kanonis savaldebuloba da kanonis<br />
mboWavi Zala. samarTlis erTgvarovani<br />
gamoyeneba konkretul saxelmwifoSi<br />
damokidebulia imaze,<br />
rom praqtikosebi iyvnen erT azrze<br />
_ rogor gaigon konkretuli<br />
normebi da rogor unda daiweros<br />
kanoni. amasTan dakavSirebiT unda<br />
arsebobdes erTiani midgoma. saboloo<br />
jamSi, es aris kanonis winaSe<br />
Tanasworobis sakiTxi.<br />
_ Tqveni dakvirvebiT, ra aris<br />
saqarTvelSi sajaro mmarTvelo-<br />
bis mTavari problema?<br />
_ rogorc davakvirdi, saqarTveloSi<br />
sakvanZo poziciebsa da administraciaSi<br />
gyavT adamianebi,<br />
romelTac erTmaneTisgan Zalze<br />
gansxvavebuli codna aqvT. ufrosi<br />
asakis adamianebma SeiZleba ssr<br />
kavSiris dros miiRes ganaTleba,<br />
zogma, SeiZleba, aSS-Si miiRo, zogma<br />
_ evropaSi, magram amas ar aqvs<br />
miSvneloba, maT SeiZines codna,<br />
rogori midgoma unda arsebobdes<br />
kanonTan mimarTebiT. erTmaneTTan<br />
gansxvavebuli meTodis kulturis<br />
problema evropaSi gasuli 10 wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi SevicaniT, es imas ni-<br />
Snavs, rom midrekilni varT, erTmaneTis<br />
azrebs avcdeT.<br />
_ ra migaCniaT problemis da-<br />
Zlevis saSualebad?<br />
_ am problemis daZlevis saSualebad<br />
mimaCnia erTgvarovani swavlebis<br />
SemoReba, maT Soris, samar-<br />
TalmcodneebisTvis. sakanonmdeblo<br />
redaqciis kuTxiTac es Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovania, vinaidan es yvelaferi<br />
SeiZleba imaze iyos damokidebuli,<br />
romelma arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciam gasca konkretuli<br />
kanonis miRebis dros konsultaciebi,<br />
an romelma ministrma sad<br />
miiRo ganaTleba. rodesac saqme<br />
exeba diskrecias, am kuTxiT Zalian<br />
kargia evrosabWos rCevebi, romelic<br />
imas ki ar aRwers, Tu rodis aris<br />
mocemuli diskrecia, aramed<br />
rodis aris mocemuli gadawyvetilebebis<br />
miRebis dros Tavisufali<br />
sivrce administraciuli organosTvis.<br />
35
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
natalia kldiaSvili _<br />
clidan ar vakeTeb xolme aras-<br />
gamorCeuli garegnobisa da<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
dros.<br />
cxovrebis gansxvavebuli stilis<br />
_ ra iyo gadawyvetileba, ro-<br />
maRali, qera qalbatoni slavuri<br />
melic ginaniaT? ras SecvlidiT?<br />
cxviriT, muqi feris kaniTa da daxvewili nakvTebiT! _ misi<br />
_ Cems cxovrebaSi yvelafers<br />
interesis sfero axla kedlis instalaciebia. sxvadasxva<br />
Sevcvlidi da arafers, radgan<br />
feris naturaluri qvebisa da liTonisgan, feradi minebisa da<br />
rac gavakeTe, am gadmosaxedidan<br />
bevri sxva masalisgan iseT namuSevrebs qmnis, romelic erTa-<br />
TiTqmis yvelaferi araswori iyo.<br />
derTia da ar meordeba. swored aman migviyvana nataliasTan.<br />
ar unda gamevlo iseTi mZime cxovreba,<br />
rac gaviare da es me Tvi-<br />
masze saqarTveloSi bevrma,<br />
keTebas Tavi davanebe da rogorc<br />
Ton gavakeTe, TviTon avirCie<br />
ubralod, ar icis. ar icnoben<br />
male gaCnda es idea, iseve male<br />
rTuli gza, romlis gavlac didi<br />
imitom, rom rogorc TviTon am-<br />
miviviwye.<br />
nervebisa da wlebis xarjze mov-<br />
bobs, yvirili da sazogadoebaSi<br />
myavs 22 wlis biWi, romelic<br />
axerxe, magram arasdros araferi<br />
gamoCena didad ar uyvars. arada,<br />
teqnikur sakiTxebSi Zalian ni-<br />
minania. Zalian bevri Secdoma dais<br />
aris adamiani, romelmac qvey-<br />
Wieria. me Zalian aramaterialisti<br />
var da is cota miwaze msvams<br />
magram am Secdomebma momiyvana<br />
lovnebis yvelaze prestiJul<br />
xolme, erTmaneTs vabalansebT.<br />
dRes aqamde, amitom arafers<br />
gamofenaze waradgina. misi namu-<br />
saerTod, Tu rame ar mesmis, mas-<br />
Sevcvli.<br />
Sevrebi snup dogis, biTsi qolin-<br />
Tan gavdivar da mexmareba. Zalian<br />
_ visTvis da ra ar genanebaT<br />
zis, loren hilis, qvinsi jonsis,<br />
kargi Svili myavs, yvelaze didi<br />
xolme?<br />
nik vestisa da sxva bevri war-<br />
Sedevri, rac cxovrebaSi Semiqm-<br />
_ aravisTvis araferi menaneba<br />
matebuli adamianis koleqcias<br />
nia, swored isaa, ara imitom, rom<br />
da es Tu ar SevaCere, ar vici, sad-<br />
amSvenebs.<br />
Cemia, aramed imitom, rom marTla<br />
amde mival. yvelafers uangarod<br />
axla saqarTveloSia, ramden-<br />
kargi adamiania. es ramdenime si-<br />
gavcem xolme da es CemTvis imxela<br />
ime dReSi amerikaSi apirebs gamgtyviT<br />
masze. misi dabadebidan bev-<br />
siamovnebaa, imdenad vivsebi, rom<br />
zavrebas, gegmebi ki didia.<br />
ri weli gavida da ise moxda, rom<br />
Zalian didxans mimyveba. roca gasvuSvi<br />
erTmaneTis miyolebiTac ki,<br />
ana okeanis gadaRma, amerikaSi xe-<br />
mamaCemis megobarma es namuSevari<br />
cem _ kosmosi TviTon aTmagad<br />
dRes „qronika+”-s misi gacno-<br />
naxa da mTxova, isev msgavsi ram Semeqmna<br />
da ori instalacia Semikve-<br />
rac Tavi maxsovs da ar mesmoda,<br />
vili:<br />
Ta am stilSi. daaxloebiT, 20<br />
ubralod, ratom SemeZlo uangar-<br />
_ natalia, mogviyeviT Tqven-<br />
weli iyo gasuli. orive amuSevari<br />
od gameca yvelaferi. ar maxsovs,<br />
ze.<br />
gavakeTe. rogorc ki davamTavre<br />
rame ise gamekeTebinos da aTmagad<br />
gibrunebs ukan. sul aseTi viyavi,<br />
bis pativi aqvs _ natalia kldiaS-<br />
_ xelovnebasTan Cemi kontaqtiT<br />
daviwyeb da vityvi, rom 17 wl-<br />
rom veRar vCerdebodi. Zalian<br />
cuds Tu gaisvriT, cudi mova<br />
da anazRaureba aviRe, mivxvdi,<br />
ar dambrunebodes. es bumerangia,<br />
isam Tbilisis samxatvro akademiaSi<br />
Cavabare, 21 wlis viyavi, roca daviwye da gagrZelda...<br />
vriT _ kargi. amitom gaeciT meti.<br />
did sicarieleSi davrCi. mere<br />
gaaTmagebulad, kargs Tu gais-<br />
swavla davamTavre. amis Semdeg, 22 sxvadasxva stilis Zalian bevr<br />
_ vis hgavxarT?<br />
Tu 23 wlis viyavi, rodesac zafxulSi<br />
zRvidan Camovedi da maxsleqcia<br />
Sevkari da pirveli eqspe-<br />
„qarwaRebulnis” skarlets. isic<br />
namuSevars vakeTebdi, mere es ko-<br />
_ magaze ar mifiqria, albaT,<br />
ovs, uamravi ferad-feradi kenWi rimentuli gamofena gavakeTe am<br />
verZia, mec ase var da vadarebdi<br />
Camovitane. magidaze rom amovyare,<br />
yvela erTad gadmocvivda da rogor miiRebda xalxi. aRmoCnda, is boloSi ekida „mze”, roca igi veci.<br />
Tavidan daiwyos yvelaferi da<br />
namuSevrebiT, mainteresebda, Tu gens _ zustad ase moxda, aq, oTaxeri<br />
amoviRe da mayurebels gada-<br />
Tavs. is Zala, rac verZs aqvs, rom<br />
sveli, feradi kenWebisgan Zalian rom gamofenam Zalian didi warmateba<br />
momitana, ukve Camovyali-<br />
didi xania, bavSvobis mere saqar- _ sul kosmosis TemaSi var, im-<br />
maqvs. bolo wamamde vibrZvi yove-<br />
daviTma SeamCnia, romelic Zalian<br />
_ ra aris Tqveni inspiracia?<br />
damwvridan aaSenos raRac, mec<br />
lamazi suraTi Seiqmna. mominda,<br />
rom aseve darCeniliyo. aviRe webo<br />
da viRacis Zveli tilos naxaers<br />
da meore didi gamofena gava-<br />
Si moRvawe qarTveli mxatvaria, is axali gravitaciuli talRebi, tom yvela, vinc myavs, roca CemTan<br />
bdi, sxvanairad Sevxede yvelaf-<br />
TveloSi ar Camosula, _ amerika- deni rame xdeba irgvliv, Tundac lTvis da sxvebsac vexmarebi. amiti,<br />
romelic gadavRebe da qvebis keTe. es iyo „planetebi”, romelic<br />
aSS-Si wavida, Zalian didi gatoria.<br />
yvela gamofena, romelic lafers cvlis, mTeli samyaros Tavis problemas, ise gadavukeTeb<br />
axla Cemi artdireqtori da kura-<br />
romelic axla aRmoaCines, es yve-<br />
modis, icis, rom ise davuxatav<br />
awyoba daviwye. samzareuloSi viyavi<br />
da, faqtobrivad, misvlis wamidan<br />
iqidan ar gamovsulvar. ga-<br />
roca pirvel gamofenas vake- damsaxurebaa. swored man dainaxa daskvnebs yovelTvis vecnobi, yve-<br />
problema arc yofila.<br />
moxmaureba mohyva da dRemde aqvs. meqneba da manamdec mqonda, misi istorias atrialebs. mecnierul xolme yvelafers, rom, Turme,<br />
vixede da wiwibura vnaxe, cota Tebdi, bolo namuSevari Sevqmeni es namuSevari da aqedan daiwyo laferi mainteresebs kosmosze, zogadad, sasaciloc var, tragikulic,<br />
giJic var, uxeSic var. _<br />
brinjic iyo, gatexili patara sarke,<br />
raRac gawyvetili mZivi da iq-<br />
vakeTebdi, vambobdi, rom es aris CamoxseniT namuSevari, vyiduloviT<br />
avawyo rame, ubralod, modis<br />
namuSevrebis Seqmnis dros rames<br />
ve, mTeli palitra gavakeTe spon-<br />
am gamofenis dasasruli da Semdebo.<br />
fasic ki ar ukiTxavs, maSinve ideebi, zogjer Zalian Rrmad,<br />
Tu usmenT?<br />
tanurad da Zalian moulodnelgi<br />
gamofenis dasawyisi. vambobdi, miTxra, _ maCveneT, ras akeTebTo. kvantur doneze Sevdivar. mexum-<br />
_ gagikvirdebaT da teqnos. mu-<br />
saxelwodebiT „mze” da roca amas yvelaferi: Semovida da Tqva, _ Tumca imitom ara, rom amis mixedad.<br />
dResac maqvs is namuSevari da rom es „mze” moitans im energias roca Cemi namuSevrebi vaCvene, rebian xolme, daanebe Tavi xelovnebas<br />
da mecnieri gaxdio _ mecniers,<br />
koncentracias makargvinebs,<br />
sika, sadac simReris teqsti JR-<br />
veravin xvdeba, riT gavakeTe. mas da im adamians, romelic am yvelafers<br />
Seafasebs, SefuTavs da weliwadSi „hemptonSi”furoriT eroba xmamaRali naTqvamia, ra amitom sul teqno maqvs CarTuli<br />
miTxra, rom am koleqciiT erT<br />
Semdeg 27 weliwadi gavida.<br />
mere davfexmZimdi, am saqmis ufro farTo auditorias warud-<br />
gavidodiT. marTlac, erT weliwadSi<br />
es koleqcia iq wavida da<br />
Tqma unda, magram carieli fur-<br />
erT xmaze, ar mafiqrebinebs ara-<br />
Cemi gvari endi vorholis, pikasosa<br />
da msgavsi Semoqmedebis siaSi<br />
iyo moxseniebuli. am gamofenaze<br />
moxvedris principi ki Semdegia:<br />
100 saukeTeso galerea msoflios<br />
qveynebidan waradgens 100 sauke-<br />
Teso xelovans TavianTi galereidan<br />
aSS-Si, „hemptonSi”. mec aq<br />
warmadgines, pirdapir umaRles<br />
safexurze movxvdi, arada, Zalian<br />
bevri ram unda gaiaro, rom iq moxvde.<br />
samwuxarod, sabuTebis gamo<br />
me TviTon ver wavedi da gamofenam<br />
uCemod Caiara, magram gamoxmaureba<br />
kargi iyo, JurnalistebTan bevri<br />
ar milaparakia, ar miyvars<br />
xolme gamosvlebi da yvirili,<br />
visac ainteresebda, yvelaferi<br />
internetis saSualebiT naxa,<br />
visac _ ara, imas ar unaxavs.<br />
_ ra iyo is sirTuleebi,<br />
romelic gzad SegxvdaT?<br />
_ cxovrebiseuli Zalian bevri<br />
iyo da aqamde vardisferi RrublebiT<br />
ar movsulvar, magram miuxedavad<br />
amisa, rac miyvarda da Cems<br />
sulSi kargi iyo da aris, yvelaf-<br />
36<br />
36 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
gza Tbilisidan `hemptonamde~<br />
uTar Tavs da sakuTar varskvlavs<br />
eZeben. minda, wiTel quCaze gavxsna<br />
igi, iq, sadac adamianebi siyvar-<br />
ferze, mTiSavs da Tan, roca viRlebi,<br />
cekvas viwyeb _ visveneb.<br />
_ TqvenTvis ra aris yvelaze<br />
Zvirfasi Tviseba adamianSi?<br />
_ erTguleba yvelaferSi:<br />
saqmeSi, megobrobaSi, siyvarulSi.<br />
_ risTvis ibrZviT?<br />
_ samarTlianobisTvis da yovelTvis<br />
asea. CemSi es grZnoba gaasmagebuladaa.<br />
ar aqvs mniSvneloba<br />
visTvis, SeiZleba, viRac ucxos-<br />
Tvis, magram mainc samarTlianobisTvis<br />
vibrZvi.<br />
_ vin genatrebaT?<br />
_ ojaxis wevrebi da megobrebi,<br />
romlebic cocxlebi aRar arian.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebT yvelaze met-<br />
ad?<br />
_ tyuili, sul imis SegrZneba<br />
maqvs, rom roca matyueben, Seuracxmyofen.<br />
yvelanairi simar-<br />
Tle mirCevnia tyuils.<br />
_ im sistemaSi ras SecvlidiT,<br />
rac gawuxebT?<br />
_ Zalian momwons axali Taoba<br />
da mimaCnia, rom SeuZlebelia, magram,<br />
mainc, isini moaxerxeben,<br />
Secvalon da moawesrigon es sistema.<br />
bevri, TiTqmis, yvela Cveni<br />
Tanamedrove damokidebulia da<br />
Camokidebuli mainc materialur<br />
faseulobebze da Rirebulebebze,<br />
romelic unda daingres da<br />
sruliad axali samyaro Seiqmnas.<br />
es qarTuli snobizmi unda moispos,<br />
Cemi suli aris sruli hipi,<br />
meti Tavisufleba! yvelas Tavisi<br />
cxovreba da arCevani aqvs, magram<br />
rCeva iqneba _ moicilon es mZime<br />
cxovreba da materialistebi ar<br />
iyvnen. msubuqad cxovreba sul<br />
sxva ramea.<br />
_ xelovneba ra aris?<br />
_ Cemi sulieri mdgomareoba,<br />
rasac me vgrZnob da gadmovcem<br />
ferebiT, faqturebiT, imiT, rac<br />
mxvdeba, Cemi instalaciebiT Cemi<br />
suli realizdeba.<br />
_ TqvenTvis samagaliTo vin<br />
aris?<br />
_ Cemi Secdoma. absurdia, vinmes<br />
vuyuro. adre, SeiZleba, dedas<br />
da bebos vuyurebdi da maTze<br />
vswavlobdi, magram mainc Cemeburad<br />
vakeTebdi imas, rac mindoda.<br />
_ sakuTari Tavi ipoveT?<br />
_ ara, mas ukanaskneli amosunTqvisas<br />
vipovi, albaT, am qveynidan<br />
wasvlis wina wams.<br />
_ paraleluri ganzomilebis<br />
gjeraT?<br />
_ ki, ra Tqma unda. sxvaTa Soris,<br />
saintereso proeqti minda gavakeTo<br />
amsterdamSi, es minda gavakeTo<br />
adamianebze, romlebic sak-<br />
ulis sayidlad Cadian.<br />
_ raze fiqrobT yvelaze xSir-<br />
ad?<br />
_ Cems namuSevrebze. Tu Seyvarebuli<br />
var, Seyvarebulze, magram<br />
Seyvarebuli sul var xolme.<br />
gamoricxulia dRe da wuTi,<br />
rodesac Seyvarebuli ar viyo.<br />
SeiZleba, gverdiT ar myavdes, magram<br />
mabednierebdes, rom sadRac<br />
arsebobs.<br />
zogjer imis xalisi maRviZebs,<br />
rom namuSevari unda gavakeTo...<br />
_ kmayofili xarT xolme na-<br />
muSevriT?<br />
_ bolomde ara, im momentSi<br />
rasac vakeTeb da viReb, imiT _ ki,<br />
magram meti SemiZlia gavakeTo. ar<br />
arsebobs srulyofili, yovel-<br />
Tvis ganviTareba mWirdeba.<br />
_ ra geamayebaT?<br />
_ is, rasac vakeTeb _ Cemi xeliT,<br />
Cemi SromiT, Cemi gonebiT da<br />
pirovnebiT SemiZlia, Cemive axali<br />
produqti Sevqnma. me es Zalian<br />
mavsebs da meamayeba. aseve meamayeba<br />
da bednieri var, rom myavs ase-<br />
Ti kargi Svili, romelsac hyavs<br />
megobrebi, romlebic bevrad<br />
Cemze ukeTesebi arian da adamianebi,<br />
romlebic Zalian mavseben da es<br />
mabednierebs.<br />
_ sicarieles grZnobT xolme?<br />
_ arasodes, radgan aseTi dro<br />
ar mqonia. an Cems saqmes vakeTeb, an<br />
SeyvarebulTan var, an megobrebTan,<br />
an SvilTan, an mSoblebTan, an<br />
marto var da sulelur filmebs<br />
vuyureb. iqac bednieri var. bevr<br />
rames vakeTeb da droc ar maqvs sicarielisTvis.<br />
panika maqvs xolme<br />
drosTan dakavSirebiT da sul<br />
vcdilob, tyuilad erTi wami<br />
mainc ar gavides, ar davkargo.<br />
_ ggoniaT, rom adamianic pat-<br />
ara kosmosia?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. yvela adamiani<br />
samyaroa, gaaCnia, ra mimarTulebiT<br />
waiyvan TviTonve Sens Tavs,<br />
radgan atomisgan SevdgebiT da iq<br />
yvelaferi brunavs, esec iluziaa,<br />
Cven TviTonve SegviZlia SeviqmnaT<br />
Cvenive samyaro iseTi, rogoric<br />
gvinda, rom iyos da amas simZimisgan<br />
ganTavisufleba sWirdeba.<br />
xSirad mxolod imiT vyofilvar<br />
gaxarebuli, rom mze daminaxavs.<br />
ar SeiZleba, adamiani konkretuli<br />
nivTebiT xarobdes: manqaniT,<br />
saxliT, mobiluriT da a. S.<br />
adamiani yvelafriT unda xarobdes,<br />
grZnobebs aqvs azri, danarCeni<br />
yvelaferi warmavalia.<br />
_ ggoniaT, rom amouwuravi<br />
xarT?<br />
_ ki, usasruloba var. yvela<br />
adamiani asea, zogi TviTonve<br />
iketeba, arada, namdvilad usasruloba<br />
varT.<br />
_ vin aris natalia kldiaS-<br />
vili?<br />
_ dro gvaCvenebs, bevri vinmea:<br />
deda, megobari, sayvareli, mxatvari,<br />
bevri viRacaa, magram raRac<br />
erTi _ ara. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
dro gvaCvenebs, Tu vin aris sinamdvileSi.<br />
_ Sinaganad ramdeni wlis<br />
xarT?<br />
_ Cemi Svilis toli, 22 wlis,<br />
albaT.<br />
_ ra aris silamaze?<br />
_ sulieri mdgomareoba, sike-<br />
Te. adamianebis urTierTdamokidebuleba,<br />
anu rogor eqcevi maT<br />
da rogor geqcevian isini Sen.<br />
_ rodis isvenebT?<br />
_ roca Ramis 2 saaTis Semdeg<br />
Sevdivar klubSi, am samyaros rom<br />
vtoveb da sxvagan gadavdivar, ai,<br />
zustad maSin visveneb, imitom,<br />
rom vifantebi, araferze vfiqrob.<br />
_ samomavlo gegma?<br />
_ axla amerikaSi mivdivar, magram<br />
winaswar arafers vityvi,<br />
radgan eg ukve calke Temaa da gpirdebiT,<br />
rom Zalian saintereso<br />
iqneba.<br />
_ ra iqneba Tqveni gzavnili<br />
sazogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ daiviwyeT yvelaferi materialuri<br />
da gaxseniT kosmosisken<br />
gza, arxi. ganTavisufldiT yvelanairi<br />
simZimisgan da danarCeni<br />
TavisiT mova. gaeciT rac SeiZleba<br />
meti. Tu ar SegiZliaT gasceT<br />
materialurad, maSin gaeciT siyvaruli,<br />
musika, aTasi rame, rac<br />
adamianma SeiZleba gaakeTos.<br />
am qveyanaze araferi tyuilad<br />
da uSedegod ar xdeba. Zalian<br />
didi Sromis, didi survilis fasi<br />
yovelTvis sruldeba. karg energias<br />
kargi energia moaqvs _ daijereT<br />
da yvelaferi kargad iqneba.<br />
natalia Tavis namuSevrebTan<br />
davtove, romelTagan erTi _ „Savi<br />
xvreli”, ubralod, Tvals mWrida<br />
mTeli intervius msvlelobisas.<br />
wamosvlisas vfiqrobdi, ratom ar<br />
vicnobdiT mas aqamde? is xom im<br />
energiis matarebelia, romelic<br />
aucileblad moitans warmatebas.<br />
mixaroda, rom qarTveli deda<br />
bevr stereotips arRvevs da ibrZvis<br />
siyvarulisTvis, warmatebisTvis.<br />
darwmunebuli var, misi<br />
saxeli araerTxel gaJRerdeba.<br />
„qronika+”-is mkiTxveli ki momdevno<br />
nomerSi morig saintereso<br />
personas gaicnobs.<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
37
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
oTxi qarTveli parizul kvarcxlbekze<br />
gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />
erTi vercxli, sami brinjao da<br />
merve adgili gundur CaTvlaSi –<br />
aseTi monagariT brundebian qarTveli<br />
Ziudoistebi parizidan, sadac<br />
prestiJul grandslemze mosinjes<br />
Zalebi. mTlianobaSi, Sedegi<br />
damakmayofileblad unda Sefasdes,<br />
radgan parizis turnirze,<br />
tradiciulad, metad Zlieri Semadgenloba<br />
iyris xolme Tavs, Tumca<br />
mainc guldasawyvetia is faqti,<br />
rom oqros medlis gareSe davrCiT,<br />
38<br />
wamyvani qarTveli Ziudoistebis<br />
nawilma ki brZola adreul etapebzeve<br />
daasrula.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebis mTavarma<br />
mwvrTnelma irakli cirekiZem stumari<br />
gundisTvis dawesebuli kvota<br />
TiTqmis srulad gamoiyena da<br />
erTi gamonaklisis garda, TiToeul<br />
woniT kategoriaSi or-ori Ziudoisti<br />
daayena. ramdenime Cvenma<br />
Ziudoistma Zalebi axal wonaSi mosinja,<br />
nawilma Sedegianad, nawilmac<br />
– uSedegod.<br />
parizuli grandslemi imiTac<br />
iyo saintereso, rom es gaxldaT<br />
pirveli prestiJuli turniri,<br />
romelic saxecvlili wesebiT Catarda.<br />
am cvlilebebidan mTavari is<br />
aris, rom brZolis xangrZlivoba<br />
xuTidan oTx wuTamde Semcirda,<br />
aseve gauqmda Sefaseba iuko, vazaris<br />
raodenoba ki SeuzRudavi gaxda.<br />
amieridan yvela gdeba, maT Soris,<br />
iukos donisac, vazarid fasdeba.<br />
Zveli wesebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
roca ori vazari ipons udrida,<br />
vazari imdeni dafiqsirdeba,<br />
ramdeni gdebac Sesruldeba. iponi<br />
ki ucvlelad darCa da wminda<br />
gdebis Semsrulebeli brZolas,<br />
Zveleburad, vadamde moigebs.<br />
rac Seexeba qarTul monagars,<br />
vercxlis medals zebeda rexviaSvili<br />
daeufla, brinjaos ki – amiran<br />
papinaSvili, vaJa margvelaSvili<br />
da varlam liparteliani.<br />
ufro konkretulad ki, wonebis<br />
mixedviT, parizul tatamze movlenebi<br />
ase ganviTarda:<br />
60 kg: luxum Cxvimianma ori<br />
brZolis mogeba SeZlo da asparezobas<br />
mervedfinalSi, braziliel<br />
erik takabatakesTan marcxiT gamoeTiSa.<br />
manamde man Cinel i Sangsa da<br />
frang sedrik revols ajoba. rac<br />
Seexeba brinjaosmedalosan papina-<br />
Svils, amiranma ungreli Saba sabosa<br />
da rusi albert oguzovis ZleviT<br />
meoTxedfinalSi gaaRwia, sadac<br />
momaval CempionTan, iaponel<br />
naohisa takatosTan damarcxda. papinaSvilma<br />
damamSvidebel etapze<br />
ivarga – jer frang vensan limars<br />
mougo, mere ki samxreTkoreel<br />
Caniong kims. am ukanasknelis garda,<br />
amiranma yvela metoqes sufTad<br />
sZlia.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. naohisa takato<br />
(iaponia), 2. Sarafudin luftilaevi<br />
(uzbekeTi), 3. orhan safarovi<br />
(azerbaijani), amiran papinaSvili<br />
(saqarTvelo)<br />
66 kg: am wonaSi mxolod vaJa<br />
margvelaSvili gvyavda da evropis<br />
SarSandelma Cempionma brinjaos<br />
medali mogvitana. brazilieli<br />
daniel kargninisa da yirgizi<br />
beqTur rismambetovis gzidan<br />
Camocilebis Semdeg vaJam iaponel<br />
hifumi abesTan veRaraferi<br />
gaawyo. am ukanasknels verc sxvebma<br />
mouxerxes rame da abe<br />
kvarcxlbekis umaRles safexurze<br />
avida. margvelaSvilma ki<br />
repeSaJSi gadainacvla da portugalieli<br />
sergiu oleinikisa<br />
da monRoli xerlen ganboldis<br />
damarcxebiT brinjao irguna.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. hifumi abe (iaponia),<br />
2. anzaur ardanovi (ruseTi),<br />
3. vaJa margvelaSvili (saqarTvelo),<br />
nijaT Sihalizada (azerbaijani).<br />
73 kg: es erTaderTi wonaa, sadac<br />
qarTveli medalTa axlosac ki<br />
ver mivida. fridon gigani portugaliel<br />
JorJe fernandeSTan marcxiT<br />
daemSvidoba turnirs, olimpiurma<br />
Cempionma laSa SavdaTuaSvilma<br />
ki mxolod erT metoqes ajoba<br />
– monRol xadbaaTar naranxuusTan<br />
mogebis Semdeg frang loik<br />
korvalTan veRarafers gaxda.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. soiCi haSimoto<br />
(iaponia), 2. Cangrim ani (samxreT korea),<br />
3. Tohar buTbuli (israeli),<br />
hidaiaT heidarovi (azerbaijani).<br />
81 kg: wlebis winaT zebeda rexviaSvili<br />
Ziudos amomaval varskvlavad<br />
miiCneoda. axalgazrdebSi<br />
man bevri tituli moipova, magram<br />
mere travmebma da sxva garemoebebma<br />
SesaZleblobebis gamovlenaSi<br />
xeli SeuSala da bevrma ‘Camowera~.<br />
sabednierod, zebedam SeZlo usiamovno<br />
periodis gadalaxva da axla,<br />
25 wlis asakSi, gviCvena, rom saqar-<br />
TvelosTvis gamarjvebebis motana<br />
SeuZlia. imedia, parizuli vercxli<br />
misi aRmasvlis mxolod dasawyisi<br />
iqneba da momavalSi kidev ufro<br />
did gamarjvebebs miaRwevs.<br />
rexviaSvilma turniri bulgareli<br />
ivailo ivanovis damarcxebiT<br />
daiwyo, Semdeg ki ungrel atila<br />
ungvaris, frang baptist piersa da<br />
mis Tanamemamule pape dudu ndiaes<br />
sZlia. finalSi zebedas metoqe<br />
holandieli frank de viti iyo.<br />
oqros medlis bedi damatebiT<br />
droSi gadawyda.<br />
rexviaSvilis garda, am wonaSi<br />
Tamaz kirakozaSvilmac mosinja<br />
Zalebi, romelmac jer Cinel rigaqi<br />
nais ajoba, mere ki braziliel<br />
eduardo iudi santosTan waago.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. frank de viti<br />
(holandia), 2. zebeda rexviaSvili<br />
(saqarTvelo), 3. baptist pieri (safrangeTi),<br />
pape dudu ndiae (safrangeTi).<br />
90 kg: zeda wonaSi gadasuli<br />
avTandil WrikiSvilisTvis parizuli<br />
grandslemi warumatebeli<br />
aRmoCnda – evropisa da msoflios<br />
Cempioni frang aqsel klerJesTan<br />
damarcxda. beqa RviniaSvili<br />
ki, romelic 90-Si 100 kilogramidan<br />
dabrunda, sabolood, mexuTe<br />
adgilze gavida. senegalel tabane<br />
paiesa da iaponel kenta nagasavasTan<br />
gamarjvebiT beqa meoTxedfinalSi<br />
gavida, sadac samxreTkoreel<br />
dongan gvakTan waago. damamSvidebel<br />
raundSi RviniaSvilma tajik<br />
qomronSox ustopirions sZlia,<br />
mesame adgilisTvis SexvedraSi<br />
ki damatebiT droSi sloveniel<br />
mihael JgankTan waago.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. xunWao Cengi<br />
(CineTi), 2. aqsel kler-<br />
Je (safrangeTi), 3. dongan<br />
gvaki (samxreT korea), mihael<br />
Jganki (slovenia).<br />
100 kg: wona Seicvala varlam<br />
lipartelianmac, romelic amieridan<br />
100 kilogramSi ibrZolebs<br />
titulebisTvis. axal wonaSi sadebiuto<br />
Sejibreba man sakmaod rigianad<br />
iWidava da brinjaos medali<br />
calsaxad dadebiT Sedegad unda<br />
SevufasoT.<br />
pirveli brZola varlamma saudis<br />
arabeTis warmomadgenel sul-<br />
Tan maniasTan iolad moigo, mere<br />
ki rus adlan bisulTanovsac ajoba.<br />
meoTxedfinalSi liparteliani<br />
iaponel amomaval varskvlavTan, 18<br />
wlis kentaro iidasTan damarcxda,<br />
repeSaJSi ki germanel karl-rixard<br />
fraisa da holandiel mixael<br />
korels sZlia.<br />
amave wonaSi laSa tavelurmac<br />
iWidava, romelmac jer brazilieli<br />
lusiano korea daamarcxa, ris<br />
Semdegac xorvat zlatko kumriC-<br />
Tan waago.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. kentaro iida (iaponia),<br />
2. siril mare (safrangeTi), 3.<br />
varlam liparteliani (saqarTvelo),<br />
JorJe fonseka (portugalia).<br />
+100 kg: ar uWidavia beWdaudebel<br />
frang tedi riners, rac<br />
grandslemis monawileebs saCempiono<br />
motivacias uzrdida. levan<br />
matiaSvils pirvelive wreSi titulovani<br />
iaponeli riu SiCinoe Sexvda<br />
da masTan araferi gamouvida,<br />
guram TuSiSvili ki, sabolood,<br />
mexuTe adgilze gavida. guramma<br />
frangi nabil Jalagi da holandieli<br />
roi meieri daamarcxa, meoTxedfinalSi<br />
ki momaval CempionTan,<br />
iaponel takeSi ojitanisTan waago.<br />
damamSvidebel etapze jer rus andrei<br />
volkovs sZlia, Semdeg ki<br />
monRol durenbaiar ulzibaiar-<br />
Tan damarcxda.<br />
kvarcxlbeki: 1. takeSi ojitani<br />
(iaponia), 2. riu SiCinoe (iaponia),<br />
3. rafael silva (brazilia), durenbaiar<br />
ulzibaiari (monRoleTi).<br />
38 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
borjRalosnebma<br />
weliwadi<br />
gamarjvebiT<br />
daiwyes<br />
saqarTvelos saragbo erovnulma<br />
nakrebma wlis pirveli mat-<br />
Ci belgiaSi Caatara da, molodinisamebr,<br />
damajereblad gaimarjva.<br />
imis miuxedavad, rom borjRalosanTa<br />
axalzelandielma<br />
Tavkacma, milton heigma, gundSi<br />
bevr axalwveuls uxmo da nakrebi<br />
eqsperimentuli SemadgenlobiT<br />
aTamaSa, belgielebTan dapirispirebaSi<br />
mainc upirobo favoritebi<br />
viyaviT. briuselSi borjRalosnebma<br />
oTxi upasuxo lelo<br />
dades da `ragbi evropis Cempionatis~<br />
pirvel turSi 31:6 gaimarjves.<br />
am sezonidan `ragbi evropaze~<br />
premiis daricxvis wesi Seicvala<br />
_ mas metoqeze samiT meti lelos<br />
damdebi gundi iRebs. Sesabamisad,<br />
Cveni nakrebi pirveli gaxda, vinc<br />
es SeZlo, da titulis SenarCunebisken<br />
pirveli nabijic gadadga.<br />
belgiasTan borjRalosanTa<br />
sastarto TxuTmeteulSi eqvsi<br />
iseTi moragbe iyo, visac 10 kepic<br />
ki ar moexveWa. marqafaSic ijda<br />
erTi aseTi, iqve myof kidev oTxs<br />
ki briuselSi debiuti hqonda. radgan<br />
Secvlaze oTxive Sevida,<br />
pirveli kepebi moixveWes Tornike<br />
mataraZem, soso bekoSvilma,<br />
giorgi cucqiriZem da giorgi Wy-<br />
oiZem. amiT „borjRalosani amqris“<br />
wevrTa odenoba 245 gaxda.<br />
TamaSi TovlSi, atalaxebul<br />
moedanze gaimarTa, ramac sanaxaobriv<br />
mxares daRi daasva. bevri<br />
iyo teqnikuri wuni, jarima da pauza.<br />
metoqe, oTxi wlis winandelis<br />
msgavsad, arasportuli me-<br />
TodebiT Seecada situaciis daZabvas,<br />
magram Cvenma gamocdilma<br />
moragbeebi axalbedebi daamSvides<br />
_ Cxubi da sasjeli Tavidan airides.<br />
radgan tempi dabali iyo, gadamwyveti<br />
sityva Serkinebam Tqva.<br />
pirvel taimSi TamaSi mxolod metoqis<br />
naxevarze midioda. lelos<br />
male gatana rom ver moxerxda, angariSi<br />
me-12 wuTze jarimiT merab<br />
kvirikaSvilma gaxsna - 3:0.<br />
23-e wuTze ki pirveli lelo<br />
miviTvaleT: derefans moli mohyva<br />
da burTi TxilaiSvilma daamiwa,<br />
xolo kvirikaSvilma gardasaxa<br />
- 10:0. 39-e wuTze ki, laSa<br />
xmalaZis pasiT, koSaZem xazi gaWra<br />
da karieris pirveli sanakrebo<br />
lelo ZelebSua miiTvala. kvirikaSvils<br />
gardasaxvis gatana ar gasWirvebia<br />
- taimi 17:0 dasrulda.<br />
meore taimis dasawyisSi maspin-<br />
Zlebi pirvelad da erTaderTxel<br />
mouaxlovdnen Cvens lelos,<br />
magram wiTel zolSi Tavi kargad<br />
davicaviT. belgiam ieriSebi gaagrZela<br />
da ori jarimiT CamorCena<br />
Seamcira - 17:6.<br />
TamaSSi Cveni marqafa CaerTo.<br />
debiutantma burjebma vizavebi<br />
daCagres da sajarimo lelo gamoimuSaves,<br />
kvirikaSvilma ki zustad<br />
daartya - 24:6.<br />
bolos borjRalosnebma derefnidan<br />
Seuties moliT, misi Caqcevis<br />
Semdeg jer oTar giorgaZe<br />
mieZala, mere ki _ beqa gorgaZe da<br />
lelos xazic gadakveTa. gardasaxva<br />
laSa malaRuraZem Seasrula<br />
da saboloo Sedegi daafiqsira<br />
- 31:6.<br />
`didi brZola gadavixadeT.<br />
aseT amindSi swrafi ragbis Tama-<br />
Si ver gamogvivida, ufro Serkinebaze<br />
orientirebuli ragbi iyo.<br />
cxadia, pirveli naxevari momewona<br />
_ am dros vdominirebdiT. meore<br />
taimis dasawyisSi iniciativa<br />
garkveuli droiT xelidan gavuSviT,<br />
magram TamaSi maleve SemovabruneT.<br />
mTlianobaSi, SedegiTa<br />
da bonusis mopovebiT kmayofili<br />
var.<br />
ukanaxazelebs Tu ar CavTvliT,<br />
Cveni saukeTeso ostatebi belgiaSi<br />
ar Camogviyvania. 2019<br />
wlis msoflio Tasamde gamocdilebis<br />
dagrovebis SesaZlebloba<br />
axalbedebs miveciT. da mainc,<br />
Cveni mizani „ragbi evropis Cempionatis“<br />
mogebaa~, _ ganacxada<br />
namatCevs milton heigma.<br />
kviras, 19 Tebervals, saqarTvelo-germaniaa.<br />
matCi rusTavis<br />
saragbo stadionze 15 saaTze<br />
daiwyeba. bileTebi kviris ganmavlobaSi<br />
gaiyideba.<br />
gaimarTa `ragbi evropis~ Cempionatis<br />
pirveli turis danarCeni<br />
ori matCic da oriveSi sensaciuri<br />
Sedegi dafiqsirda. germaniam<br />
rumineTs umaspinZla da 41:38<br />
daamarcxa, espaneTi ki ruseTs<br />
dauxvda da 16:6 sZlia.<br />
belgia – saqarTvelo 6:31<br />
belgia: meusi, dauseTi, pironi,<br />
brebani, reinarti, k. uiliamsi,<br />
berJe, soto, diensti, de klerki,<br />
koradi, vervorti, van lari,<br />
leskarbura, demolderi<br />
Secvlaze Sevidnen: diubua, debati,<br />
de bakeri, bili, benua, bontemi,<br />
a. uiliamsi, koku<br />
saqarTvelo: kvirikaSvili,<br />
fruiZe, koSaZe, SariqaZe, Todua,<br />
xmalaZe, begaZe, TeTraSvili, alxazaSvili,<br />
meliqiZe, nemsaZe, WeiSvili,<br />
lomiZe, TxilaiSvili, gorgaZe<br />
Secvlaze Sevidnen: wiklauri,<br />
malaRuraZe, xuciSvili, WyoiZe,<br />
mataraZe, bekoSvili, giorgaZe,<br />
cucqiriZe<br />
4 lelo: TxilaiSvili, koSaZe,<br />
sajarimo, gorgaZe<br />
4 gardasaxva: kvirikaSvili (3),<br />
malaRuraZe<br />
1 jarima: kvirikaSvili<br />
1 sinbini: kvirikaSvili<br />
grozni dinamodan wavida<br />
ukrainelma viaCeslav groznim `dinamo Tbilisis~ mTavari mwvrT-<br />
nelis Tanamdeboba datova. klubi, oficialurad, amis mizezad 60<br />
wlis specialistis ojaxur problemebs asaxelebs, Tumca `dinamo-<br />
Si~ mwvrTnelebis xSir cvlilebas Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, mizezebi<br />
ufro sxvagan unda veZeboT...<br />
groznim `dinamo~ gasuli sezonis msvlelobisas Caibara da gun-<br />
di evroTasebze ver gaiyvana – dedaqalaqelebma CempionatSi meoTxe<br />
adgili daikaves.<br />
saqarTvelos futsalis erovnulma nakrebma ev-<br />
8 aprili: italia-belarusi, saqarTvelo-<br />
ropis Cempionatis pirveli sakvalifikacio etapi<br />
holandia<br />
warmatebiT daZlia da ZiriTad SesarCev raundSi<br />
9 aprili: holandia-italia, saqarTvelo-be-<br />
TamaSis ufleba moipova. pirveli etapis erT-erT<br />
larusi<br />
jgufs Tbilisma umaspinZla da Cveni gundis war-<br />
11 aprili: belarusi-holandia, italia-<br />
matebas Sinauri kedlebis faqtormac Seuwyo xeli.<br />
saqarTvelo<br />
cnobili gaxda, rom Tbilisi ZiriTadi raun-<br />
ZiriTadi raundidan evropis Cempionatze Tama-<br />
dis jgufis maspinZelic iqneba. matCebi Cvens de-<br />
Sis uflebas Svidi pirveladgilosani pirdapir<br />
daqalaqSi 8, 9 da 11 aprils gaimarTeba, xolo<br />
moipovebs, Svidi meoreadgilosani da erTic sauk-<br />
saqarTvelos futsalis erovnuli nakrebis metoeTeso<br />
mesameadgilosani ki plei ofSi CaerTvebiqeebi<br />
belarusis, italiisa da holandiis nakrebe-<br />
an da am gziT gaarkveven uZlieresis vinaobas. plei<br />
bi iqnebian.<br />
ofis matCebi 2017 wlis seqtemberSi gaimarTeba,<br />
cnobilia kalendaric:<br />
evro 2018-s ki slovenia umaspinZlebs.<br />
N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />
gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />
39
CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
afiSa<br />
afiSa<br />
lala lendi<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 2 GEO 17:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 2 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 7 GEO 12:00 7-8 l.<br />
darbazi 6 GEO 19:15 12-13 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 3 GEO 16:15 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 4 GEO 21:55 12-13 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 2 GEO 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 4 20:00 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 3 GEO 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
1 aSS dolari<br />
2.6288<br />
1 evro<br />
2.7957<br />
1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />
3.2892<br />
1 Sveicariuli franki<br />
2.6207<br />
100 rusuli rubli<br />
4.5355<br />
wina nomris<br />
skanvordis pasuxebi:<br />
pirveli suraTi - leonardo da vinCi;<br />
meore suraTi - galileo galilei; 1.<br />
korti; 2. titulatura; 3. torti; 4.<br />
halei; 5. trumeni; 6. ulise; 7.<br />
eTanoli; 8. arizona; 9. argo; 10.<br />
laboratoria; 11. sakura; 12. safara;<br />
13. sarafana; 14. Ramura; 15. geo; 16.<br />
anZa; 17. dileo; 18. banZa; 19. rekor-<br />
di; 20. reabilitacia; 21. barometri;<br />
22. ideologia; 23. argentina; 24.<br />
anita; 25. korida; 26. ameba; 27.<br />
anaTema; 28. mtkvari; 29. Ciri; 30.<br />
vila; 31. bazari<br />
filmi<br />
13.igivea,<br />
14.legen-<br />
rac<br />
daruli<br />
qanda-<br />
zeland.<br />
keba<br />
moargbe<br />
15.ger-<br />
maneli<br />
kompozi-<br />
tori<br />
18. aSS-s<br />
eqs.<br />
prezi-<br />
denti<br />
19.Tevza-<br />
obis<br />
atri-<br />
buti<br />
21. vaJa<br />
22.<br />
fSavelas<br />
xalisian<br />
mSob.<br />
gunebaze<br />
sofeli<br />
myofi<br />
4.<br />
mate-<br />
riki<br />
28.<br />
samxaz-<br />
velo<br />
iaraRi<br />
29.qarT-<br />
30.<br />
32.Tan-<br />
veli<br />
Widao-<br />
31. qeTo<br />
amedrove<br />
bale-<br />
bis<br />
da ....<br />
samuSao<br />
rina<br />
xerxi<br />
oTaxi<br />
33.<br />
qalaqi<br />
ital-<br />
iaSi<br />
34.ja-<br />
doqari,<br />
grZneu-<br />
li qali<br />
35.<br />
alioni,<br />
gaiJraJi<br />
1.vokal.<br />
dramat.<br />
nawar-<br />
moebi<br />
5.<br />
matare-<br />
blebis<br />
sadgomi<br />
10.<br />
arwivis<br />
Svili<br />
23.yvavi-<br />
lebis<br />
mosayv.<br />
adgili<br />
26. g.<br />
saakaZis<br />
mSob.<br />
sofeli<br />
6.samagido<br />
TamaSi<br />
kamaTle-<br />
biT<br />
7. civi<br />
iaraRi<br />
16.<br />
dabali<br />
wodebis<br />
adamiani<br />
20.<br />
parik-<br />
maxeri<br />
24.<br />
xarebTan<br />
orT-<br />
abrZola<br />
filmi<br />
2. qcevis<br />
Tavise-<br />
bureba<br />
8. rigi,<br />
wyeba<br />
11.<br />
RvTismetyv-<br />
eleba<br />
3.<br />
anCxli,<br />
kapasi<br />
9. bedi,<br />
iRbali<br />
12.samxedro<br />
gemebis,<br />
didi<br />
SenaerTi<br />
17.<br />
mokle<br />
(uvado)<br />
xmali<br />
25.<br />
TuTiy-<br />
uSis<br />
saxeoba<br />
27.ebra-<br />
elTa<br />
wminda<br />
wigni<br />
ormocdaaTi elferiT<br />
muqi<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 2 RUS 11:45 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 16:30 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 2 ENG 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 14:00 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 3 16:45 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 3 19:30 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 7 ENG 19:45 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 4 RUS 20:00 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 22:15 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 7 22:30 12-13 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 1 16:55 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 3 ENG 19:00 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:35 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 3 21:45 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 22:15 12-13 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 4 14:30 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 1 17:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
borotebis savane 6:<br />
dasasruli 3D<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 2 19:15 12-13 l.<br />
IMAX 20:00 19 l.<br />
darbazi 2 GEO 21:45 12-13 l.<br />
IMAX 22:30 19 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 5 GEO 19:45 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 2 22:00 12-13 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 5 GEO 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 5 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
amindi<br />
samSabaTi<br />
oTxSabaTi<br />
xuTSabaTi<br />
paraskevi<br />
SabaTi<br />
kvira<br />
orSabaTi<br />
Tbilisi<br />
3-7 0<br />
4-6 0<br />
5-7 0<br />
3-6 0<br />
2-5 0<br />
8-11 0<br />
7-10 0<br />
quTaisi<br />
5-6 0<br />
3-6 0<br />
4-6 0<br />
2-4 0<br />
5-8 0<br />
8-10 0<br />
9-12 0<br />
baTumi<br />
5-7 0<br />
6-8 0<br />
3-5 0<br />
4-7 0<br />
8-10 0<br />
10-14 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
zugdidi<br />
5-8 0<br />
3-5 0<br />
2-4 0<br />
3-5 0<br />
5-6 0<br />
6-8 0<br />
10-12 0<br />
gori<br />
2-4 0<br />
1-3 0<br />
2-3 0<br />
1-3 0<br />
2-5 0<br />
5-7 0<br />
6-8 0<br />
Telavi<br />
1-3 0<br />
2-4 0<br />
1-4 0<br />
2-4 0<br />
1-4 0<br />
5-8 0<br />
6-7 0<br />
foTi<br />
6-8 0<br />
7-9 0<br />
4-6 0<br />
5-9 0<br />
7-9 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
40<br />
saredaqcio kolegia<br />
yvela ufleba daculia;<br />
`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli<br />
masalebis nebismieri saxiT<br />
gamoyeneba da gavrceleba<br />
redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad<br />
akrZalulia!<br />
gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul<br />
masalebs aqvT sareklamo<br />
xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia<br />
SeiZleba ar daemTxves<br />
redaqciis Sexedulebas.<br />
mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12)<br />
redaqtori nana TvalabeiSvili (592 73 73 90)<br />
vardiaSvili neli 597 11 12 47<br />
stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />
batiaSvili Tamar 593 61 74 15<br />
redaqciis misamarTi:<br />
rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />
Tbilisi, gudauris N3,<br />
mamulaSvili gela 599 45 50 26<br />
pirveli sarTuli, bina 4;<br />
berulava laSa 577 20 86 13<br />
SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50<br />
tel.: 294 69 77;<br />
mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55<br />
iuridiuli samsaxuri:<br />
tabaRua nino 568 82 58 35<br />
arCil CubiniZe;<br />
oTiaSvili Tamar 593 68 47 98<br />
sareklamo ganyofileba,<br />
janezaSvili levan 593 18 77 10<br />
gavrcelebis samsaxuri<br />
vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89<br />
Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10<br />
xujaZe zviad (aSS) deviZe daviT<br />
gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~<br />
ISSN 2346-8025<br />
9772346802006<br />
294 69 77;<br />
qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
40 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.