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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

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yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

kadrebis<br />

beladi<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N5 5 (182) 14.02<br />

02.201<br />

.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />

soso gv.<br />

gv. 7<br />

visi davalebiT usmenen<br />

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gv. 2<br />

mowmeTa<br />

trening-centri<br />

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gv. 8<br />

gv. 4<br />

cianidi<br />

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gv. 10<br />

vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />

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saministro<br />

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Camoyalibda~<br />

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rusudan cirekiZe:<br />

`trasaze gaWedili<br />

magnoliasaviT<br />

migvaTrevs<br />

rusi oligarqi~ gv. 16<br />

1

mis kursSi ar aris.<br />

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uniSnaven, rom saministroSi mimdinare<br />

procesebTan dakavSirebiT<br />

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saerTod, ojaxis wevrebis<br />

informaciis miRebasa da gavrcelebaSi<br />

gamoyeneba gogaSvilisTvis<br />

ucxo ar aris, xSirad, swored<br />

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599 17 12 12<br />

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mmarTveli gaxda.<br />

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rekomendaciiT, sus-is ufrosis<br />

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2 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

liSvilis saxelze uZravi qonebis,<br />

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Tanamdebobis datoveba mouwevs,<br />

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piris diskreditacia moaxerxa,<br />

magram xsenebul eparqiebSi saku-<br />

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mxareSi aaSena. am saqmeSi<br />

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protesti spontanurad,<br />

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Tvis mzadebac bolo periodSi<br />

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Si, rac, SeiZleba, sabolood, am<br />

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enis Semswavleli kursebi,<br />

etapobrivad xdeboda<br />

integra-<br />

visi davalebiT usmenen<br />

uCa mamacaSvils?<br />

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_ aman regionebis ra icis,<br />

Tavmoyvare kaci or bats ar Caabarebso.<br />

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sTxova, regionebis sakiTxebze<br />

koordinacia dito samxaraZesTan<br />

gqondeTo. Sexvedris<br />

dasrulebis Semdeg premieris rwmunebulebi<br />

daufaravad lan-<br />

ZRavdnen kvirikaSvils, _ samxaraZesTan<br />

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deputati Cveni ufrosi<br />

ratom unda iyoso.<br />

amave wyaros informaciiT, gogaSviliT<br />

aseve ukmayofilo yofila<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis Zma, romelsac<br />

yofil premierTan „antrikotas”<br />

misamarTiT pretenziebi<br />

piradad gamouTqvams. Cveni wyaro<br />

ambobs, rom ivaniSvils gogaSvilis<br />

gaSveba gadawyvetili aqvs,<br />

magram mxolod imaze wuxs, rom<br />

sus-is maRalCinosnis gaSveba<br />

„qronika+”-is aqtivSi ar Caiweros.<br />

gogaSvilis gamosacdeli vada<br />

nel-nela iwureba, magram orive<br />

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warumateblad viTardeba.<br />

erTi mxriv, saubaria „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is saqmis dasasrulze da<br />

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SantaJze. mosamarTleebisTvis<br />

saxlSi gagzavnili werilebi<br />

imdenad komikurad gamoiyureba,<br />

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„antrikotas” fantaziebze.<br />

meore Tema, romelic sus-ma<br />

daiwyo da aseve arasasurveli<br />

paralelurad, gazafxulze ivaniSvili<br />

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Secvlas apirebs. ukve<br />

TiTqmis gadawyvetilia, rom premieris<br />

posts ekonomikis amJamindeli<br />

ministri, giorgi gaxaria<br />

daikavebs. aseve Seicvleba ministrebis<br />

didi nawili. am etapze<br />

kandidaturebs arCeven da procesSi<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis axali favoriti,<br />

pavle kublaSvilic monawileobs.<br />

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gadagorebas ivaniSvili axali<br />

mTavrobisa da biznesmenTa daxmarebis<br />

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TiTqos, yvelaferi dalagebuli<br />

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elis.<br />

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valis gastumrebas moiTxovs.<br />

da es vali gacilebiT mZime<br />

iqneba, vidre dRes vinmes warmoudgenia.<br />

erTi mxriv, saubaria<br />

afxazeTis rkinigzis aRdgenaze<br />

da programa maqsimumi SeiZleba<br />

afxazeTis damoukideblobis<br />

aRiareba iyos!!!<br />

qveynis SigniT ivaniSvilis<br />

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kvira, RamRamobiT dadioda da vi-<br />

Rac xalxi mohyavda. TanamSromlebma<br />

kiTxva rom dasves, upasuxa,<br />

komisia ariso. komisia Ramis 11-12<br />

saaTze?! gvikvirda, magram gavCumdiT.<br />

mokled, 10 Tebervals samsaxurSi<br />

misuls meubnebian, rom mamaom<br />

Tavisi yvelaferi axveta da wavida.<br />

mere 10 saaTze xuTkaciani<br />

jgufi m Cxrekis orderiTovida.<br />

dauZaxes iurists _ nata induaSvils.<br />

zogadad, rodesac iurists<br />

Cxrekaze iswreben, imas yovelTvis<br />

eubnebian, raze movidnen. Cxrekis<br />

Semdeg iuristi „mkvdari” gamovida.<br />

SevekiTxeT, magram gviTxra,<br />

rom ar vicio. saxeze feri ar edo.<br />

prokuraturis xalxi xuTi iyo,<br />

oTxi kaci da erTi qali. mamaos<br />

kabinetSi Sevidnen da raRac ori<br />

diski gamoitanes. nata induaSvils<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

ra Wirda, ar vici, xmas ver iRebda.<br />

Cxrekis Semdeg araferi Tqves, mxolod<br />

gangvimartes, rom mizezs<br />

gamoZiebis interesebidan gamomdinare<br />

ver getyviTo. induaSvilma<br />

mxolod Cxrekis orderi naxa,<br />

danarCens aravis anaxes. induaSvili<br />

amis Semdeg enaCavardnili<br />

ijda”.<br />

Canaweri #3<br />

„dekanozi giorgi mamalaZe pirvelad<br />

2011 wels daakaves baTumSi.<br />

dakavebuli iyo da izolatorSic<br />

imyofeboda sasaflaos ukanonod<br />

gasxvisebaze. meore iyo, aq rac ewera:<br />

10.02.17-Si aiyvanes izolator-<br />

Si, muxli 108. saRamos gadakveTa<br />

sazRvari da gaawiTles. es niSnavs<br />

gawiTlebas”.<br />

mowmeebi<br />

Tavdapirvelad „qronika+” sam-<br />

Sobiaros iurists, nata induaS-<br />

vils daukavSirda, romelic mama<br />

giorgi mamalaZis kabinetis Cxre-<br />

kas daeswro:<br />

_ qalbatono nata, 10-Si samSo-<br />

biaroSi Cxrekaze prokuratura<br />

Semovida, romelsac Tqven daesw-<br />

ariT.<br />

marika barnova<br />

_ xelmZRvanelobas daukavSirdiT.<br />

_ xelmZRvanelobas ukve da-<br />

vukavSirdi. isini Cxrekas ar<br />

daswrebian da oqmze xeli ar mou-<br />

weriaT. Cxrekas Tqven daeswariT?<br />

_ gasagebia, magram xelmZRvanelobas<br />

daukavSirdiT.<br />

„qronika+” „wminda anasa da<br />

ioakimes saxelobis samSobiaros”<br />

sapatio direqtors, marika barno-<br />

vas gaesaubra:<br />

_ 10 Tebervals TqvenTan pro-<br />

kuratura Cxrekaze Semovida?<br />

_ diax.<br />

_ saqmis kursSi xarT, ra xde-<br />

ba?<br />

_ Cven mxolod imis saqmis kurs-<br />

Si varT, rom Cxreka iyo da bavSvebi<br />

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viTarebaa da raRac mniSvnelovani<br />

xdeba.<br />

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Semovidoda, faqtia, radgan iseTi<br />

gaflangulia wlebis manZilze,<br />

rom gapartaxebulia. ase rom, ar<br />

mgonia, es yvelaferi hospitals<br />

ukavSirdebodes. es Cemi subieqturi<br />

azria. xom xvdebiT, prokuratura<br />

orderiT modis da mamaos<br />

kabinetSi Cxrekas atarebs.<br />

_ TqvenTvis cnobili Tua, rom<br />

2011 wels am pirovnebaze saqme<br />

iyo aRZruli boboyvaTis miwebis<br />

gasxvisebasTan dakavSirebiT?<br />

_ axla mesmis ukve raRacebi,<br />

rom Turme da Turmeo. Cven piriqiT,<br />

rom davinaxeT, rom sasuliero<br />

piri gamogvigzavna sapatriarqom<br />

daqceuli finansuri mdgomareobis<br />

fonze, Zalian gagvixarda,<br />

rom sasuliero piria da ilocebs.<br />

menejments ki gavmarTavdiT.<br />

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vcxovrobdiT.<br />

_ rodesac kerZo pirs samSobiaros<br />

Senoba 12,5 milion dola-<br />

rad ipoTekaSi Caudo, arc maSin<br />

gagiCndaT kiTxvebi?<br />

_ iciT ra, sasuliero piri movida,<br />

gagvixarda, sapatriarqo finansurad<br />

Zlieri organizaciaa. Tan,<br />

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rom iqneb, ar gamovides da ar<br />

minda, rom winaswar vTqvao. saqarTvelo<br />

patara qveyanaa da araferi<br />

imaleba. gavigeT, rom raRac<br />

grantze iyo saubari. ipoTeka gamodga...<br />

mere mivxvdiT, rodesac ramdenime<br />

Tve gavida, weli, magram<br />

afera ar gvegona. Cven ufro vfiqrobdiT,<br />

rom ver akeTebda. magram<br />

axla rac gavigeT, SokSi varT.<br />

_ vin ganixileba Semcvlelad,<br />

an movaleobis Semsruleblad?<br />

_ magaze imtvrevs Tavs axla<br />

koleqtivi. ramdenimes surs...<br />

_ magaliTad, samSobiaros finansur<br />

direqtors, vefxia odiSar-<br />

ias?<br />

_ mis mimarT kargi ganwyoba<br />

maqvs, magram koleqtivs ar mounda,<br />

masac gauWirdeba, ise aris da-<br />

Zabuli situacia da iseTi imedgacrueba<br />

aqvs miRebuli koleqtivs.<br />

_ rogorc vici, „jipisim” Tavi-<br />

si warmomadgeneli gamoagzavna,<br />

meufe andria iyo mosuli, goris<br />

mitropoliti da ver SeTanxmd-<br />

nen?<br />

_ aseTi variantic iyo, magram aq<br />

SigniT iTqva, rom koleqtivi garedan<br />

aRaravis SemouSvebs, imitom<br />

rom koleqtivi gamwarebuli da<br />

gaubedurebulia.<br />

_ irina ciskariZe krizisebis<br />

marTvis menejeria samSobiaroSi,<br />

ara?<br />

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Tu klaseli, ar vici.<br />

_ iuristi nata induaSvili<br />

prokuraturis mier warmoebul<br />

Cxrekas daeswro?<br />

_ diax.<br />

_ mxolod kabineti gaCrikes?<br />

_ diax, mxolod mamaos kabineti<br />

gaCxrikes.<br />

_ kabinetidan gamotanili dis-<br />

kebi ratom ver gaxsnes?<br />

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da gareT gaxsnes kompiuterSi.<br />

waRebiT ki raRac waiRes.<br />

_ ra?<br />

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_ sakmeveli?<br />

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da mere sakmeveli waiReso, magram<br />

Cxrekamde ramdenime saaTiT<br />

adre, sanam prokuratura movidoda,<br />

mamao iyo mosuli hospitalSi.<br />

_ anu izolatoridan rom<br />

gamouSves, mere movida pirdapir<br />

hospitalSi?<br />

_ albaT. mokled, did deteqtivSi<br />

varT CarTulebi. Zalian<br />

gawvalebulia policia.<br />

„qronika+” sapatriarqos pres-<br />

samsaxuris ufross, mama daviT<br />

SaraSeniZes daukavSirda:<br />

_ mama daviT, ratom Caatara<br />

Cxreka prokuraturam mama gior-<br />

gi mamalaZis samuSao kabinetSi?<br />

_ vera...<br />

_ batono?<br />

_ axla dakavebuli var, sxva<br />

dros damirekeT.<br />

mama daviT SaraSeniZe telefons<br />

miTiSavs, rac misTvis namdvilad<br />

ar aris Cveuli.<br />

saqmes grifi adevs. Cven ar davwerT<br />

imas, rac daiwera da gaJRerda<br />

_ patriarqis cianidiT mowamvlis<br />

mcdelobaze. ar davwerT<br />

imas, rogor Cavida germaniaSi saxelmwifo<br />

uSiSroebis samsaxuris<br />

ufrosi anzor CubiniZe, rogor gamouSves<br />

germaniidan saqarTveloSi<br />

patriarqis dacvis ufrosi soso<br />

oxanaSvili da prokuraturaSi miiyvanes<br />

dakiTxvaze.<br />

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giorgi mefariZe<br />

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politikuri moZraoba „axali saqarTvelos” warmomadgeneli,<br />

monitoringis centr „mediatoris” lideri, levan xabeiS-<br />

vili, axali iniciativebiT gamodis:<br />

1. biurokratiuli xarjebis, minimum, ganaxevreba, rac gulisxmobs<br />

rigi a(a)ip-ebis, ssip-ebisa da saqalaqo samsaxurebis sa-<br />

erTod gauqmebas da proeqtul marTvaze gadasvlas; 2. Tbilisi<br />

farexebis gareSe; 3. mSeneblobis nebarTvis gacemaze moratori-<br />

umis gamocxadeba mWidrod dasaxlebul ubnebSi; 4. gamwvaneba<br />

korpusis saxuravebzec; 5. ekoparkingi; 6. meriis TanamSromleb-<br />

is, maT Soris, saqalaqo samsaxuris ufrosebis, moadgileebis,<br />

ganyofilebis ufrosebis, gamgeblebis, maTi moadgileebisa da<br />

rigiTi TanamSromlebis muSaobis eleqtronuli kontroli.<br />

am winadadebebze ufro dawvrilebiT<br />

sasaubrod „qronika+”-ma<br />

levan xabeiSvils mimar-<br />

Ta:<br />

_ qveyanaSi mZime ekonomikuri,<br />

socialuri da politikuri realobis<br />

garda, aseve aris problemebi,<br />

romlis mogvareba TviTmmarTvelobebis<br />

donezea Sesa-<br />

Zlebeli. amasTan, rogorc sxvadasxva<br />

mimarTulebiT, aseve Tvi-<br />

TmmarTvelobis mimarTulebi-<br />

Tac Zireuli da fundamenturi<br />

cvlilebebia saWiro.<br />

is, rom dedaqalaqis meria<br />

(rogorc sxva qalaqebis municipalitetebi)<br />

ver pasuxobs gamowvevebsa<br />

da problemebs (rac<br />

adgilze moqalaqeebs aqvT), amas<br />

nebismieri moqalaqe dagidasturebT.<br />

Zalian susti, araefeqtiani,<br />

uunaro da korumpirebuli<br />

dedaqalaqis mTavroba gvyavs<br />

TbilisSi. maT korumpirebulobas,<br />

faqtobrivad, yovel Tve, Zalovani<br />

uwyebebic adastureben<br />

sxvadasxva Tanamdebobis piris<br />

ayvaniT, romlebsac qrTamis aRebis<br />

faqtze akaveben.<br />

TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebi<br />

karzea momdgari da garda sakanonmdeblo<br />

da saarCevno doneze<br />

regulaciebisa, aseve saWroa<br />

iniciativebi, romlebic dedaqalaqis<br />

realur ganviTarebas<br />

uzrunvelyofs.<br />

am droisTvis Cveni politikuri<br />

gaerTianeba sxvadasxva arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciasa da<br />

samoqalaqo pirTan im iniciativebze<br />

muSaobs, romlebic dedaqalaqs<br />

realuri ganviTarebis<br />

saSualebas miscems.<br />

pirveli da umniSvnelovanesi<br />

aris biurokratiuli xarjebis,<br />

minimum, ganaxevreba, rac gulisxmobs<br />

rigi a(a)ip-ebis, ssip-ebisa<br />

da saqalaqo samsaxurebis saerTod<br />

gauqmebas da proeqtul<br />

marTvaze gadasvlas. is, rom biurokratia<br />

gazrdilia, amas mowmobs<br />

londonis meriis magaliTic,<br />

sadac 835 adamiani muSaobs,<br />

Cveni dedaqalaqis meriaSi ki _<br />

5700 (mxolod meriis administraciasa<br />

da saqalaqo samsaxureb-<br />

Si 1000-ze meti adamiani muSaobs).<br />

rac Seexeba qalaqis parametrebs,<br />

rogorc farTobiT, aseve<br />

mosaxleobiT, ra Tqma unda,<br />

udidesi gansxvavebaa. mosaxleobis<br />

mixedviT londoni 7-jer,<br />

xolo farTobiT, minimum, 2-jer<br />

didia. londonisa da Tbilisis<br />

meriis muSaobis margi qmedebis<br />

koeficientsa da maT Sedarebaze<br />

aRar SevCerdebi.<br />

roca vsaubrobT biurokratiis<br />

ganaxevrebaze, ra Tqma unda,<br />

vgulisxmobT zedmeti TanamSromlebis<br />

ganTavisuflebasac.<br />

Tumca am problemazec vifiqreT<br />

da SesaZlebelia, erTi<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi ganTavisuflebul<br />

TanamSromlebs, yovelTviurad,<br />

xelfasis 80% gadavuxadoT.<br />

es SesaZleblobas mogvcems,<br />

pirvelsave wels davzogoT xelfasis<br />

20%, premiebi, danamatebi,<br />

maT mier moxmarebuli eleqtroenergia,<br />

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sadac ganlagebulia a(a)ip-ebi,<br />

ssip-ebi da saqalaqo samsaxurebi.<br />

reformis Sedegad pirvel<br />

wels davzogavT, minimum, 30 milion<br />

lars, xolo momdevno wlidan,<br />

mas Semdeg, rac yofil moxeleebTan<br />

valdebulebac aRar<br />

gveqneba, 50-60 milioni lari<br />

gamoTavisufldeba.<br />

proeqtuli marTva gazrdis<br />

konkurencias, samoqalaqo CarTulobas,<br />

samoqalaqo zedamxedvelobas<br />

da, rac mTavaria, xarisxsa<br />

da efeqtianobas.<br />

levan xabeiSvili:<br />

`Zalian susti,<br />

uunaro da<br />

korumpirebuli<br />

dedaqalaqis<br />

mTavroba gvyavs<br />

TbilisSi!~<br />

meore iniciativa exeba dedaqalaqis<br />

ganTavisuflebas farexebisgan.<br />

rac unda mtkivneuli<br />

da miuRebeli iyos farexebis<br />

mepatroneebisTvis es iniciativa,<br />

qalaqis iersaxisTvis da ekologiisTvis<br />

sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania.<br />

iniciativis gamocxadebidan<br />

erT weliwadSi TbilisSi<br />

aRar unda arsebobdes arc<br />

erTi farexi, rac saSualebas mogvcems,<br />

damatebiT moewyos skverebi<br />

da sarekreacio zonebi.<br />

mesame iniciativa exeba mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvis gacemaze moratoriumis<br />

gamocxadebas, rac<br />

gulisxmobs, rom mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTvis gacema aikrZaleba aw<br />

ukve mWidrod dasaxlebul ubnebSi.<br />

mSenebloba nebadarTuli<br />

iqneba mxolod im adgilebSi, sadac<br />

am droisTvisac aris sacxovrebeli<br />

farTobi.<br />

magaliTad, e. w. xruSCovkebis<br />

adgilze dainteresebuli investoris<br />

SemTxvevaSi mas gamartivebuli<br />

wesiT SeeZleba yvela<br />

biurokratiuli procesis gavla<br />

gonivrulobis farglebSi, gaiTvaliswineben<br />

mis interesebsa da<br />

korspusis parametrebs...<br />

garda imisa, rom sokoebiviT<br />

gaCenil korpusebs aviridebT,<br />

romlebic aranair arqiteqturul<br />

gemovnebaSi ar jdeba (maT<br />

daviT narmania<br />

Soris, safrTxes uqmnis Cvens<br />

moqalaqeebs), aseve wavaxalisebT<br />

e. w. xruSovkebis Canacvlebas.<br />

meoTxe iniciativa dedaqalaqSi<br />

mZime ekologiur mdgomareobas<br />

exeba. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom daviT narmania Tbiliselebs<br />

mwvane walkotis gaSenebas<br />

dahpirda, realurad, „betonis<br />

junglebi” miviReT. faqtia, am<br />

mimarTulebiT mniSvnelovani<br />

nabijebia gadasadgmeli, rom ekologiur<br />

katastrofamde ar<br />

mivideT. es maSin, roca Tbilisis<br />

meriis ekologiis samsaxur-<br />

Si TanamSromlebi korufciiT<br />

arian dakavebulebi. aviRoT ukanaskneli<br />

faqti: ramdenime dRis<br />

winaT ekologiis samsaxurisa da<br />

naZaladevis raionis gamgeobis<br />

TanamSromeli daakaves.<br />

Cveni iniciativa korpusebis<br />

saxuravebze gamwvanebis mowyobas<br />

exeba. es SesaZlebelia Tbilisis<br />

amxanagobebis programis<br />

farglebSi, sadac TanadafinansebiT,<br />

Sesabamisi daskvnis safu-<br />

Zvelze, SesaZlebeli gaxdeba,<br />

korpusis saxuravebze moewyos<br />

gamwvaneba. rig SemTxvevaSi Sesa-<br />

Zlebelia, minikafeebisa da dasasvenebeli<br />

obieqtebis mowyobac.<br />

absoluturad realisturi<br />

da ganxorcielebadi iniciativaa.<br />

mondomebis SemTxvevaSi, Cveni<br />

daTvliT, 4 weliwadSi yovel<br />

meoTxe korpusze SesaZlebelia<br />

mwvane sivrcis arseboba, rac<br />

mniSvnelovnad gaaumjobesebs<br />

ekologiur mdgomareobas.<br />

mexuTe iniciativa exeba ekoparkings.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi es konkretuli<br />

iniciativa TbilisSi<br />

erT-erTi korpusis Tavmjdomarem<br />

mogvawoda, romelmac am mimarTulebiT<br />

sakmaod bevri imuSava.<br />

Teoriulad amis warmodgena<br />

rTulia, Tumca vizualurad<br />

Zalian ioli gasagebia, ras<br />

gulisxmobs ekoparkingi, anu mwvane<br />

gazonebis mowyoba ise, rom<br />

avtomobilis gaCerebis SemTxvevaSic<br />

mwvane zols problema<br />

ar Seeqmnas.<br />

meeqvse iniciativa exeba meriis<br />

TanamSromlebis, maT Soris,<br />

saqalaqo samsaxuris ufrosebis,<br />

moadgileebis, ganyofilebis<br />

ufrosebis, gamgeblebis, maTi<br />

moadgileebisa da rigiTi Tanam-<br />

Sromlebis muSaobis eleqtronul<br />

kontrols.<br />

yvela Tbilisels onlainre-<br />

JimSi unda SeeZlos naxos, romeli<br />

Tanamdebobis piri Tu rigi-<br />

Ti TanamSromeli imyofeba samsaxurSi,<br />

an Tu asrulebs samsaxurebriv<br />

movaleobas Senobis gareT<br />

samuSao saaTebSi.<br />

es yvelaferi moagvarebs e. w.<br />

yavistebis, usaqmurebisa da upasuxismgeblo<br />

TanamSromlebis<br />

problemas. aseve eleqtronulad<br />

xelmisawvdomi unda iyos<br />

yvela TanamSromlis dRis „reporti”,<br />

anu ras saqmianobda<br />

dRis ganmavlobaSi. esec martivi<br />

da programulad gamarTvadia,<br />

survilisa da nebis SemTxvevaSi.<br />

es ar aris srulyofili iniciativebi,<br />

romelic Cvens politikur<br />

moZraobas aqvs. es<br />

aris minimaluri iniciativebi,<br />

romelic<br />

daTvlili, ga-<br />

Tvlili da absoluturad<br />

realisturia.<br />

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arsebobs. ZiriTadi brZolis<br />

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metoqed mxolod or mediaorganizacias<br />

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wlis „qronika+”-is mimarT<br />

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mTavari kiTxva, romelic Su-<br />

Sis sasaxlidan modis, erTaderTia:<br />

_ ratom ver daxureT, ra<br />

xdeba?<br />

pasuxi ki gomelauris uwyebidan,<br />

erTi:<br />

_ ver vmuSaobT, kadrebi<br />

nuls qvemoT gvyavs.<br />

_ ratom?<br />

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kadris problemaa.<br />

veravin gadavibireT, ver gavtexeT.<br />

_ mizezi? ver iyideT?<br />

_ ver SevZeliT.<br />

_ da mainc, ratom?!<br />

_ damkvidrebuli wesebis sawinaaRmdegod<br />

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_ goneba.<br />

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e. w. samuSao jgufebis<br />

gamo.<br />

_ ra aris es samuSao jgufe-<br />

bi?<br />

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es xom viRacam unda Seiswavlos<br />

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_ ra problema SeiZleba<br />

Seiqmnas, reorganizacia, an<br />

uwyebis optimizacia rom Ca-<br />

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rom moiyvanon?<br />

_ ver moiyvanen, maka. pirveli:<br />

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moxsnas mohyveba mis mier proletariatis<br />

warmomadgenlebis<br />

e. w. buntebi. am kadrebis beladi<br />

sosoa. am adamianebma uceb<br />

gaiRviZes da uTxres, _ dReidan<br />

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da eliso kilaZis damarcxebiT<br />

Tbiliss Saravandedi<br />

daadgeba. soso gasaSvebia, ma-<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

`kadrebis beladi sosoa. am adamianebma<br />

uceb gaiRviZes da uTxres, - dReidan Sen<br />

xar `agneti 007", an raRac zRapruli<br />

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nika gvaramiasa da eliso kilaZis<br />

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fonze ucxo qveynis specsamsaxurebs<br />

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specsamsaxurebs SeeqmnaT sasaTbure<br />

pirobebi.<br />

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romelTa umravlesoba, ra Tqma<br />

unda, gasul wlebSi gogaSvils<br />

ekuTvnoda, amis eqskluziuri<br />

ufleba hqonda. realurad,<br />

aravin amowmebs, vin modis uwyebaSi,<br />

romelic qveynis mar-<br />

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aq momuSave adamianebi<br />

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ra unda Camogitanon?<br />

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regionuli samsaxurebi?<br />

vin arian is adamianebi, romlebic<br />

yvelaze mowyvlad jgufebze<br />

unda muSaobdnen, magali-<br />

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adamiani ver igebs, ras eubne-<br />

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oebis erT-erTi garantia...<br />

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mowmeTa trening-centri<br />

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adamianis uflebaTa dacvis<br />

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imas miiCnevda, rom girgvlianis<br />

saqmeze braldebuli pirebi<br />

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15 dRiT da swored es faqti<br />

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igi acxadebda, rom es<br />

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Ti Cvenebebi da amiT xeli See-<br />

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departamentis ufrossa da generalur<br />

prokurors.<br />

130-e: am saCivrebs araviTari<br />

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sasjelaRsrulebis departamentis<br />

socialuri samsaxuris ufrosma<br />

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2006 wlis 8-23 marts<br />

marTlac erT sakanSi iyo moTavsebuli,<br />

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7 sapyrobileSi saremonto samuSaoebi<br />

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rom 2006 wlis 21<br />

Tebervalsa da 25 marts erTerTma<br />

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Ss saministros imJamindeli<br />

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TanamSromlebs: geronti<br />

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me-7 dawesebulebaSi miyvanidan<br />

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misca miTiTeba, rom aRniSnul<br />

braldebulebs ar unda SeqmnodaT<br />

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TanamSromlebis mxridan<br />

im TvalsazrisiT, rom gansxvavebiT<br />

sxva braldebulebisgan,<br />

maTze ar unda gavrcelebuliyo<br />

saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT<br />

da dawesebulebis SinaganawesiT<br />

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xolo Tavad am pirebTan damokidebuleba<br />

TanamSromlebis mxridan<br />

unda yofiliyo sruliad<br />

gansxvavebuli”.<br />

es konkretuli magaliTebi<br />

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saqmesTan. 31 marts Cveni saqmis<br />

saapelacio sasamarTloSi ganxilva<br />

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imis mtkicebulebebi warmoadgina,<br />

rom braldebuli specrazmelebi<br />

Tveebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

CvenTan erTad isxdnen „matrosovze”<br />

#19 sakanSi. Cven 2 Tebervals<br />

dagvakaves, „matrosovze”4<br />

Tebervals Semogviyvanes, ramdenime<br />

specrazmeli gldanis<br />

me-8 dawesebulebaSi datoves,<br />

xolo 19 Tebervals isinic „matrosovze”<br />

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megobrebTan Casves. 19<br />

Tebervlidan 7 agvistomde (am<br />

dRes gauSves isini) erTad, erT<br />

sakanSi isxdnen, daaxloebiT,<br />

xuT Tveze meti xnis ganmavlobaSi.<br />

es gancxadeba Cven Tbilisis<br />

saqalaqo sasamarTloSic<br />

araerTgzis gavakeTeT, magram<br />

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am faqtze aranairi reagireba<br />

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sxvaTa Soris, baCo axalaias<br />

im saqmis prokurori gaxldaT,<br />

romelzec zemoT mogaxseneT.<br />

grigol caaZe mezobel, #17<br />

sakanSi ijda da smoda, rogor<br />

mecadineobdnen prokuraturis<br />

mier dawerili Cvenebebis dazepirebaSi<br />

specrazmelebi. grigol<br />

caaZem es yvelaferi mosamarTle<br />

badri koWlamazaSvils<br />

mouyva da aseve winaswar uTxra,<br />

ra Cvenebebs miscemdnen specrazmelebi<br />

sasamarTloze. es<br />

xdeboda maSin, roca Cven cxra<br />

Tvis ganmavlobaSi samartoo sakanSi<br />

mogvaTavses, ar gvqonda<br />

televizori, radio, kaxa nakani<br />

im zomamdec mivida, rom venebi<br />

gadaiWra.<br />

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amiran guluaSvili<br />

badri koWlamazaSvili<br />

saxalxo damcvelis aparatis<br />

TanamSromlebma daadastures:<br />

roca 2015 wlis 22 aprils, monitoringis<br />

mizniT, „matrosovze”<br />

imyofebodnen, aRmoaCines<br />

rom #19 sakanSi erT saqmeze<br />

braldebuli Svidive specrazmeli<br />

erTad ijda.<br />

maT oqmi Seadgines da cnoba<br />

moiTxoves, rodis Casves isini<br />

erTad. specnawilis ufrosma<br />

saxalxo damcvelis aparatis<br />

TanamSromlebs es cnoba misca<br />

kidec.<br />

sandro girgvlianis saqmeze<br />

evropis sasamarTlos aRSfoTebis<br />

sagani, rogorc zemoT mogaxseneT,<br />

oTxi braldebulis<br />

erT sakanSi 15 dRiT moTavsebis<br />

sakiTxi gaxda. Cvens saqmeze<br />

Svidi specrazmeli erT sakanSi<br />

imyofeboda xuTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi.<br />

prokurori amiran guluaSvili,<br />

or sxvadasxva darbazSi,<br />

erTnairi precedentis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, sxvadasxva rames<br />

akeTebs. is, rac baCana axalaiasTvis<br />

danaSauli da kanonis<br />

darRvevaa, Cveni saqmis mowmeebze<br />

ar vrceldeba, arc dawesebulebis<br />

direqtoris mxridan<br />

kanonis darRvevas imCnevs vinme.<br />

martivi warmosadgenia, ra<br />

marazmTan da SerCeviT samar-<br />

TalTan gvaqvs saqme.<br />

analogiuri saqmea „kasrebis<br />

saqme”.<br />

Tavidan, 2013 wels, 11 kaci<br />

iyo dakavebuli. am saqmezec<br />

analogiurad moiqcnen. 11-dan<br />

ori braldebuli erTad Casves<br />

„matrosovze”, 4 #1 sakanSi, da<br />

oTxic _ #9 sakanSi, daaxloebiT,<br />

rva Tvis ganmavlobaSi.<br />

warmoidgineT, rva braldebuli<br />

erTad ijda. ratom moxda ase?<br />

koba Toduaze, romelic dRemde<br />

iZebneba afxazur-rusuli<br />

specsamsaxurebis mier, arc ma-<br />

Sin hqondaT rame mtkicebuleba<br />

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telefonis amonaweris mixedviT,<br />

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rva braldebulidan mxolod<br />

ori daiTanxmes Cvenebis<br />

micemaze, isic prokuraturis<br />

dawerili Cvenebebis bejiTad<br />

mecadineobis Semdeg. am faqtis<br />

Taobaze orma mowmem _ WiTanavam<br />

da buliam _ sasamarTlozec<br />

ganacxades. metic: WiTanavam<br />

sasamarTloze prokuror kavsaZes<br />

daado xeli, _ aman Cagvsva<br />

erTad, periodulad Semodioda<br />

da Cvenzezewolas axorcielebdao.<br />

mokled, am ambebis Semdeg<br />

Cven „matrosovis” cixes „mowme-<br />

Ta momzadebis centri” davarqviT.<br />

gagecinebaT, magram es asea.<br />

xelisuflebam baCo axalaia<br />

cixeSi analogiuri braldebiT<br />

gamoketa, rasac, faqtobrivad,<br />

yoveldRe sCadis Cveni dawesebulebis<br />

direqtori da sasjelaRsrulebis<br />

saministros xelmZRvaneloba.<br />

vinmes warmoudgenia,<br />

rom imdroindelma departamentis<br />

ufrosma gaxariam, an<br />

imdroindelma ministrma mRebriSvilma<br />

diliT gaiRviZes da<br />

gadawyvetileba miiRes, „matrosovze”<br />

treningcentri gaexsnaT?<br />

kiTxvaze, _ ratom Casves er-<br />

Tad erT saqmeze braldebuli<br />

pirebi? _ pasuxi am dromde ar<br />

arsebobs. roca Cveni aRmkveTi<br />

RonisZieba ganixileboda, prokurorma<br />

mTavar argumentad moiyvana:<br />

amaTi gareT datoveba rogor<br />

SeiZleba, mowmeebze seriozul<br />

zewolas moaxdeneno, rasac<br />

mosamarTle daeTanxma. samagierod,<br />

aiRes da Cveni saqmis mowmeebi<br />

15 kv.m. sakanSi erTad Casves.<br />

bolos, minda giTxraT, rom<br />

eseni arian organizebuli danaSaulebrivi<br />

jgufis wevrebi,<br />

sadac Sedian prokuraturis,<br />

sus-is, Sss-s, sasjelaRsrulebis<br />

sistemisa da sasamarTlos<br />

warmomadgenlebi, am procesSi<br />

bevri advokatic monawileobs.<br />

gamosavali erTia: an Tavian-<br />

Ti jgufis wevrebi unda daakavon<br />

da axalaias miusvan gverdiT,<br />

an baCo axalaia gauSvan.<br />

pativiscemiT: irakli<br />

fircxalava<br />

„matrosovi”, 12 Tebervali,<br />

2017 weli<br />

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9

megavatis hidroeleqtrosadgurs,<br />

an Tboeleqtrosadgurs gaakeTebda,<br />

magram ar Seusrulebia.<br />

Tumca am xalxma, „energo-pro<br />

jorjias” abonentebma es fuli<br />

gadaixada. faqtobrivad, am memorandumebiT<br />

mosaxleobas winaswar<br />

afinansebinebdnen aRniSnul hidro<br />

an Tboeleqtrosadgurs.<br />

maT es valdebuleba<br />

ar Seasrules<br />

da aRniSnuli Tanxebi<br />

ki gadaxdili darCa:<br />

„Telasze” 380<br />

milionze meti, xolo<br />

„energo-proze”<br />

_ 350 milion<br />

larze meti. ai,<br />

es aris faratina<br />

furclebi, am<br />

memorandumebs<br />

sxva araferi<br />

hqvia.<br />

dRevandeli<br />

energetikis saministro,<br />

imis<br />

nacvlad, rom es<br />

gaesajaroebina, gamoevlina,<br />

am Tanxebis dabrunebis<br />

meqanizmi gamoeZebna<br />

(xelT maqvs aRniSnuli<br />

xelSekrulebebi), ra-<br />

Rac daxuruli tipis samxedro<br />

organizaciad iqca,<br />

sadac yvelaferze grifi<br />

„komerciuli saidumloa”<br />

dadebuli. es aris Cveni<br />

mosaxleobis mier gadaxdili<br />

fuli, ratom unda<br />

iyos grifiT „saidumlo”,<br />

iqneb, vinmem agvixsnas?<br />

roca am fuls maxdevinebda<br />

da meubneboda, rom 3,7<br />

TeTri sainvesticio komponentis<br />

fulia, maSin es Tema ratom gaasajaroa?<br />

Cvenma mosaxleobam unda icodes,<br />

es aris zustad erTi jaWvi,<br />

vinc es memorandumebi moamzada<br />

(maT Soris, enguris cnobili memorandumi),<br />

rogorc zemoT avRni-<br />

Sne, isev isini muSaoben energetikis<br />

saministroSi, gana, sadme wasulan?<br />

maT mier momzdebulia es<br />

memorandumebi, „engurhesis” gadacemis<br />

memorandumic da es bolo<br />

gazis xelSekrulebebic. isev is<br />

xalxia da viTom aseTi „eSmakuri”<br />

gamosavali ipoves.<br />

es aris namdvili korufcia da<br />

prokuraturam saswrafod gamoZieba<br />

unda daiwyos. aq danaSaulis<br />

aSkara niSnebia. adamianebs wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi araferSi gadaaxdevines<br />

amxela Tanxebi, „energo-prom”<br />

350 milioni waiRo, „Telasma” _ 380<br />

milioni. dRemde es e. w. komerciuli<br />

saidumloebis safarqveSaa.<br />

es kidev nawilia im ciklis, rasac<br />

dRevandeli energetikis saministro<br />

akeTebs. zarzeimiT gaxsnes<br />

qaris sadguri gorTan. albaT,<br />

gagivliaT. es yvelaferi saxelmwifo<br />

fuliT Seisyides, 34 milioni<br />

gadaixades. da ra gaakeTes?<br />

saxelmwifo fuliT germaniaSi<br />

daasaqmes muSaxeli... qveyanam amiT<br />

ra miiRo, 6,9 aSS centiani, Zviriani<br />

sadguri? romelic wliurad,<br />

saukeTeso SemTxvevaSi, 88 milion<br />

kilovatsaaTs gamoimuSavebs?!!<br />

kiTxvas vsvam: ramdeni mcire<br />

hidrosadguri aSendeboda 34 milioni<br />

aSS dolariT? albaT, 2-3-megavtiani<br />

7-8 obieqtis, jamuri<br />

gamomuSavebac 88 milonzec gacilebiT<br />

meti eqnebodaT da gaxarjuli<br />

34 milionis mxolod 20-25%<br />

wavidoda germaniaSi, an avstriaSi<br />

(hidroagregatebis yvelaze ma-<br />

Ralxarisxiani mwarmoeblebi), xolo<br />

danarCeni Tanxa, _ 25,5 milion<br />

dolarze meti _ saqarTveloSi<br />

darCeboda.<br />

rodesac qveyanaSi hidroeleqtrosadguri<br />

Sendeba, jer erTi, iq<br />

muSaxeli saqmdeba da 80% am ful-<br />

gela mamulaSvili<br />

599 45 50 26<br />

ratom Camoyalibda saqarTvelos<br />

energetikis saministro erT-erTi daxuruli tipis organizaciad?<br />

kategoriuli moTxovnis miuxedavad, ratom ar sajarovdeba<br />

gazis transportirebis kompaniasa da rusul „gazeqsports”<br />

Soris dadebuli bolo xelSekruleba? rogor Seaf-<br />

ases aRniSnuli xelSekruleba rusul mediaSi? ukavSirdeba Tu<br />

ara es yvelaferi energetikis sferos mmarTvelTa profesiul<br />

kvalifikacias? ratom ar gadaixedeba wina xelisuflebisas<br />

gaformebuli sadavo energetikuli xelSekrulebebi? ra-<br />

tom amjobina xelisuflebam mcire hidrosadgurebs goris<br />

qaris eleqtrosadguris mSenebloba? ras warmoadgenen „sokar-<br />

sa” da gazis korporacias Soris moqmedi firmebi?..<br />

am da sxva kiTxvebze „qronika+”-s<br />

pasuxobs saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />

eleqtrosistemis yofili<br />

generaluri direqtori, me-<br />

diakavSir „obieqtivis” wamyvani _<br />

vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />

_ saqarTvelos energetikis<br />

saministro erT-erT daxuruli<br />

tipis organizaciad Camoyalibda.<br />

lamis, Tavdacvis saministroze<br />

ufro daxSuli sistemaa. ase ratom<br />

moxda da ratom arafers asa-<br />

jaroeben?<br />

_ sul bolodan daviwyoT: saqarTvelos<br />

gazis transportirebis<br />

kompaniasa da rusul „gazeqsports”<br />

Soris dadebuli xelSekruleba<br />

aviRoT. parlamentis wevrebi,<br />

arasamTavrobo seqtori iTxovs<br />

pasuxs, Tu ra pirobebiT daido<br />

qalaq minskSi es xelSekruleba?<br />

energetikis saministro acxadebs,<br />

rom es komerciuli saidumloebaa<br />

da Cven mis pirobebs ver<br />

gavTqvamTo. ras niSnavs, komerciuli<br />

saidumloeba? Cvenma mosaxleobam<br />

unda icodes, saqarTvelo ra<br />

Tanxebs ixdis, tranzitulad ra<br />

rCeba, gadasaxadi ramdenia...<br />

aseve energetikis saministro<br />

acxadebs, rom Cven evropul qveynebTan<br />

SedarebiT yvelaze optimaluri<br />

pirobebi miviReT. ministris<br />

moadgile m. valiSvili amtkicebs,<br />

rom saukeTeso transportirebis<br />

tarifi gvaqvs(?!). ras<br />

niSnavs optimaluri pirobebi? an<br />

saukeTeso tranzitis tarifi?<br />

daniaSi gazis transportireba<br />

14 evro Rirs, ungreTSi 7 evroa,<br />

aviRoT belarusi, sadac tranziti<br />

4,5 dolaria. gazis transportirebis<br />

kompanias amaze kargi fasi<br />

aqvs dadebuli? eWvi mepareba (gadaxedeT<br />

im periodis rusul presas<br />

da yvelafers mixvdebiT...). vin<br />

moigo, es yvelas ainteresebs da saministro<br />

aRniSnul monacemebs ar<br />

gascems; acxadebs, rom es raRac gasaidumloebuli<br />

xelSekrulebaa<br />

da a.S.<br />

_ realur mizezs sad xedavT?<br />

_ adre ra pirobebiTac gvqonda<br />

dadebuli xelSekruleba, 2 miliard<br />

400 milioni kubmetri gazi<br />

10<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

gaedineboda satranzitod somxeT-<br />

Si, iqidan naturaluri saxiT aT<br />

procents viRebdiT. es naturad<br />

miRebuli gazi Cveni mosaxleobisTvis<br />

bevrad sasargebloa, vidre<br />

monetarizaciaze gadasvla. axla<br />

Cven ruseTma fuli unda gadagvixados,<br />

magram am fuliT mere ra gazi<br />

mogviva? imis mesamedi, an naxevari,<br />

rasac aqamde naturiT viRebdiT.<br />

amitom es aris wamgebiani<br />

xelSekruleba. Cemi gaTvlebiT,<br />

wagebam, daaxloebiT, 25 milion aSS<br />

dolarze meti Seadgina!<br />

_ amaze ratom wavidnen?<br />

_ imitom, rom namdvilad arakvalificiuri<br />

xalxia. pirdapir vambob,<br />

rom energetikis saministro-<br />

Si 90%-ze meti arakvalificiuri<br />

xalxi muSaobs. an saidan unda icodnen,<br />

roca ministri istorikosia,<br />

moadgile _ Tarjimani, sxvebi gaurkveveli<br />

profesiis xalxia, yovel<br />

SemTxvevaSi, energetikosebi namdvilad<br />

ar arian.<br />

hkiTxeT nebismier am sferos<br />

specialists (albaT, ufro mikrofonisa<br />

da kameris gareSe) da Tu<br />

sindisTan problemebi ara aqvs (axla<br />

aseTebis povnac gaWirda), getyvis,<br />

rom saministroSi ganaTlebuli,<br />

profesionalebis ricxvi nulis<br />

tolia, rom dargSi menejerebi,<br />

ZiriTadad, yofili „odeerebi”,<br />

piradi dacvisa da dacvis policiis<br />

yofili TanamSromlebi arian,<br />

saerTod, amaT energetikis ra gaegebaT?<br />

rogor SeiZleba, energetikaSi<br />

rame icodnen?<br />

„gazeqsportTan” gaformebuli<br />

xelSekrulebiTac Cans, roca aSkarad<br />

wamgebian pirobebze mouweres<br />

xeli rusebs.<br />

ukve anekdotadac dadis qalaq-<br />

Si: kalaZisTvis olimpiuri Cempionis,<br />

zviadauris dasaqmeba samtrediis<br />

safexburTo klub „lokomotivis”<br />

direqtoratSi SeuTavazebiaT,<br />

mas ki Tavi gaugiJebia, _ sad<br />

zviadauri da sad fexburTi, fexburTis<br />

ra gaegeba, araprofesionaliao.<br />

amitom swrafad mouZebna<br />

„profesiulad” Sesaferisi adgili,<br />

ufrosi mrCevel-konsultantis<br />

Tanamdeboba gazis transportirebis<br />

kompaniaSi. xumroba iqiT<br />

iyos, yvelam icis, gazis transportirebis<br />

kompaniis menejmenti,<br />

ZiriTadad, kalaZis „profesionalebiTaa”<br />

dakompleqtebuli.<br />

saakaSvili rom acxadebda, omi<br />

movigeTo, esenic zustad ase iqcevian,<br />

- Camovidnen da acxadeben,<br />

rom xelSekruleba xelsayreli<br />

pirobebiT davdeTo. vekiTxebi,<br />

gvaCveneT, ras warmoadgens es xelsayreli<br />

pirobebi-meTqi?<br />

vaxtang begiaSvili:<br />

`energetikis<br />

saministro, lamis,<br />

Tavdacvaze ufro<br />

daxSul sistemad<br />

Camoyalibda~<br />

_ pasuxismgebloba vis mx-<br />

arezea?<br />

_ rasakvirvelia, energetikis<br />

saministroze. magram aq erT xelSekrulebaze<br />

rodia saubari, aq<br />

xelSekrulebebis mTeli rigia,<br />

romelsac dRemde energetikis<br />

saministro ar asajaroebs.<br />

kerZod, 2008 wlis agvistos<br />

omis Semdeg saqarTvelos energetikis<br />

saministrom (ministri a. xe-<br />

Taguri, misi kuratorebi: v. merabiSvili,<br />

z. adeiSvili) ruseTis „inter-raos”<br />

SesTavaza „engurhesis”<br />

marTvaSi gadacema, romelic Cveni<br />

yvelaze mZlavri hidrosadguria.<br />

amasTan dakavSirebiT memorandumi<br />

momzadda da am moRalateobriv<br />

memorandumze kalaZis dRevandeli<br />

moadgile i. xmalaZe muSaobda, romelic<br />

„nacionaluri” reJimis<br />

dros iuridiul departaments xelmZRvanelobda.<br />

Tavis droze, roca<br />

Cven, „qarTuli ocnebac” opoziciaSi<br />

viyaviT, gasajaroebas viTxovdiT,<br />

Tu ratom vaZlevdiT engurs<br />

ruseTs.<br />

ise, enguri rom ar gvqondes,<br />

saerTod, Cveni ekonomika nulTan<br />

gaswordeboda. ratom misces rusul<br />

„inter-raos”, ra pirobebiT<br />

aZleven amxela hess? maSinac ase<br />

acxadebdnen (igive valiSvili), rom<br />

es yvelaferi komerciuli saidumloeba<br />

iyo.<br />

kidev ukan wavideT: 2007 wels<br />

„inter-raosa” da saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobas Soris xelSekruleba<br />

daido, romlis mixedviT, 2015<br />

wlis pirvel seqtembramde unda<br />

daefinansebina, aeSenebina da eqspluataciaSi<br />

gaeSva 100 megavatis<br />

hidroeleqtrosadguri, an Tboeleqtrosadguri.<br />

dRes energetikis<br />

saministros vekiTxebi: sad aris es<br />

sadguri? ratom ar Sesrulda<br />

piroba?<br />

axla dawvrilebiT vTqvaT, ratom<br />

gakeTda es memorandumi, Cvenma<br />

moqalaqeebma rom icodnen:<br />

rodesac gamanawilebeli kompania<br />

investicias Tavissave kompaniaSi<br />

debs, es, ra Tqma unda, maregulirebel<br />

komisias tarifSi Sehyavs<br />

da tarifi izrdeba. magram rode-<br />

sac am sainvesticio komponentis<br />

ukan amoRebas iwyeb, is tarifi gimcirdeba.<br />

swored 2007 wels movida is periodi,<br />

rodesac „Telass” Cadebuli<br />

investiciebic amoRebuli hqonda<br />

da misi tarifi 3,7 TeTriT unda<br />

gaiafebuliyo. amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

moifiqres es memorandumi, romelsac<br />

xels awers zurab noRaideli<br />

da „inter-raos” mxridan direqtorTa<br />

sabWos Tavmjdomare rapaporti.<br />

es 2007 wlis 20 ivniss xdeba.<br />

rogorc aRvniSne, aq „inter-raos”<br />

valdebulebad Cauweres, rom<br />

2015 wlis pirvel seqtembramde 100<br />

megavatis sadgurs aaSenebda.<br />

winaswarganzraxuli memorandumis<br />

es piroba maregulirebelma<br />

komisiam tarifSi gautara da es 3,7<br />

meaTedi „Telass” ar Camoaklo.<br />

3,7 TeTri rom ar daaklo „Telass”,<br />

Cven vixdidiT amis safasurs,<br />

radgan dadebuli piroba ar<br />

Sesrulda. rac daviTvaleT, Cven<br />

„TelasTan”, daaxloebiT, 380 milionamde<br />

zedmetad gadavixadeT<br />

2012 wlisTvis. sad wavida, sad<br />

gaqra es Tanxa?!<br />

zustad igive pirobaa „energoprosTan”<br />

(premier-ministrma n. gilaurma<br />

gaaforma memorandumi).<br />

iciT, rom „energo-pro” Cexuri<br />

kompaniaa, „energo-pro jorjia” aqauri<br />

kompaniaa, romelic aq operirebs<br />

da ganawilebis licenzia<br />

aqvs. saerTod, sami gamanawilebeli<br />

kompania gvaqvs qveyanaSi. 1. „Telasi”,<br />

2. „kaxeTi” (gakotrebis reJim-<br />

Sia) da 3. „energo-pro”. e. i. Tbilisisa<br />

da kaxeTis garda, yvela abonenti<br />

„energo-prosia”, maT Soris,<br />

fizikuri da iuridiuli pirebi.<br />

„energo-prosac” hqonda sainvesticio<br />

valdebuleba: hesebi,<br />

mricxvelebi, xazi, amomrTvelebi<br />

unda gaesworebina da a. S., magram<br />

rodesac fulis amoRebas axorcielebs,<br />

masac aRniSnuli komponenti<br />

umcirdeba. im periodisTvis<br />

„energo-prosTan” es komponenti<br />

3,2-3,5 TeTrs Seadgenda, magram<br />

zustad igive memorandumi, igive<br />

sqema gaaformes „energo-prosTan”.<br />

man valdebuleba aiRo, rom 100<br />

10 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

idan saqarTveloSive rCeba _ sam-<br />

Seneblo masala, muSaxelis xelfasi,<br />

gadasaxadebi da a. S. metsac<br />

getyviT: gacilebiT momgebianad<br />

SeiZleboda am 34 milioni aSS<br />

dolaris gamoyeneba, Tu am fuls<br />

ise araprofesionalurad, diletantiviT<br />

ar gamoiyenebdi, rogorc<br />

es energetikis saministrom „moaxerxa”.<br />

Seqmniliyo e. w. feedin tarifis<br />

fondi (stimulirebis fondi) da<br />

investorebisTvis mcire da saSualo<br />

hidrosadgurebis mSenebloba<br />

SeeTvazebiana am diletantebiT<br />

savse energetikis saministros.<br />

amiT xom potenciur investorebs<br />

mniSvnelovnad SevumcirebdiT<br />

riskebs da arnaxul biZgs mivcemdiT<br />

mcire da saSualo hesebis<br />

mSeneblobis ganviTarebas. am<br />

pirobebSi aseTi stimuliT (sabazro<br />

fass plus tarifze garantirebuli<br />

danamati, 34 milioni aSS<br />

dolariani fondidan) ramdeni hesi<br />

aSendeboda. getyodiT, magram minda,<br />

am „ganaTlebul” energetikis<br />

saministros amocanad davutovo,<br />

iqneb, amoxsnan, magram ara mgonia,<br />

ver daZleven amocanas.<br />

dRes saxelmwifo saxsrebi uyairaTod<br />

iflangeba, es, rbilad<br />

rom vTqvaT, araprofesionalizmis<br />

gamo. Tumca zogierTi Cemi megobari<br />

mimtkicebs, aq sxva kriminalur<br />

movlenasTan gvaqvs saqmeo.<br />

ra vici, ra vici...<br />

swored amas vambob, rom kvalifikacia<br />

ar aqvT. ar ician, an saidan<br />

unda icodnen? kalaZe ambobs,<br />

istorikosi varo, valiSvili Tarjimania<br />

da energetika rogor unda<br />

icodnen? mTeli ubedureba is<br />

aris, rom aravis arc ekiTxebian.<br />

energetikuli seqtori ase daxuruli<br />

amitomac gaxades, rom zedmeti<br />

SekiTxva ar davusvaT.<br />

_ goris sadgurs rogori Sede-<br />

gebi aqvs?<br />

_ axla gauSves da amboben, rom<br />

dagegmilze meti gamouSva kilovatsaaTio.<br />

20 megavatia simZlavre<br />

da raRac Sedegi iqneba. kidev kargi,<br />

rom normaluri firmisgan iyides<br />

es aparatura. magram gaTvale<br />

mainc, aRniSnuli 34 milioniT ramden,<br />

xalxisTvis ufro dabaltarifian<br />

eleqtroenergias miiRebdi,<br />

meti muSaxeli dasaqmdeboda da<br />

qveyanaSi meti fulic darCeboda.<br />

kargi menejeroba swored es aris,<br />

rom yvelaze optimaluri varianti<br />

gaTvalo, muSaxels rogor<br />

asaqmeb, iaf energias rogor iReb<br />

da a. S.<br />

axla Semdegze gadavideT:<br />

dRevandel energetikis saministroSi<br />

investori rom movides da<br />

sxvadasxva hesze, magaliTad, memorandumis<br />

gaformeba moiTxovos<br />

(anu pirobebs akmayofilebs, sabanko<br />

garantia moitana da a. S), Tu<br />

adamiani upatronoa, memorandum-<br />

Si xels uweren, rom saxelmwifo<br />

garantirebulad am dens sami Tvis<br />

ganmavlobaSi Seisyidis. danarCeni<br />

Tavisufali xar, sadac ginda, iq<br />

gayideo, geubnebian.<br />

Tu cota „iseTi” patroni gyavs,<br />

eqvs Tves iyidian da Tu magari<br />

patroni gyavs, saxelmwifo garantirebulad<br />

rva Tves Seisyidis.<br />

SeiZleba, es 12 Tvemdec gaformdes.<br />

ratom aris es sxvaoba? zogan<br />

sam Tves deben, zog memorandumSi<br />

eqvs Tves da sxvagan _ 8, 12 Tves.<br />

korufcia Tu ar aris, ase ratom<br />

xdeba? amas SeuiaraRebeli Tvali-<br />

Tac rom Sexedav, korufcias amoicnob.<br />

kiTxvas vsvam, _ ra iwvevs<br />

am sxvaobas? tarifebs nu ikiTxavT,<br />

zogs 4,3 aSS centi aqvs, zogs _ 6,<br />

zogs _ 6,5, zogs _ 6,9, zogs _ 10.5<br />

da a. S. mokled, naswavli kaci advilad<br />

mixvdeba, rom sruli qaosia.<br />

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TxovniT axali TanamSromeli<br />

miiRes. am dros municipalitetSi<br />

uamravi gaWirvebulia, romelTac<br />

samsaxuri ar aqvT, uamravi ojaxia,<br />

sadac erTi adamianic ki ar aris<br />

dasaqmebuli! sruli ganukiTxaobaa.<br />

patara Waobad iqca municipaliteti,<br />

sadac patara monarqi<br />

gvizis. es yvelaferi imaze metyvelebs,<br />

rom Coxels mfarveloben.<br />

_ vin mfarvelobs Cox-<br />

els?<br />

_ iciT, ramdeni da-<br />

Sauli Caidina am adamianma?!<br />

dajerebac ki<br />

SeuZlebelia. rac eg<br />

dainiSna, mas Semdeg<br />

duSeTSi nepotizmi<br />

yvavis, milioni laria<br />

gaflanfuli<br />

biujetidan<br />

da amaze<br />

auditis samsaxurma<br />

daskvnac<br />

dado.<br />

man biujet-<br />

irakli tripolski<br />

idan TanamSromlebi daafinansa,<br />

gogirdis abanoebiT siamovneba<br />

rom mieRoT. „nacionalebze” mze<br />

da mTvare ar amomdis, magram man<br />

gamgeobisa Tu sxva aaip-ebis TanamSromlebi<br />

politikuri niSniT<br />

gaaTavisufla. yvela maTganma sasamarTloSi<br />

iCivla, procesi moigo<br />

da Coxelma yvelas gadauxada kompensacia<br />

biujetidan. ziani mas<br />

sakuTari jibidan unda aenazRaurebina,<br />

radgan Tavad Caidina dana-<br />

Sauli da saxelmwifo biujeti arafer<br />

SuaSia. ver davasaxeleb, vin<br />

miTxra, magram vici, rom mas tripolski<br />

mfarvelobs. amdeni dana-<br />

Saulis Semdeg is araTu pasuxisgebaSi<br />

ar aris micemuli, Zveleburad<br />

zis gamgeblis Tanamdebobaze<br />

da cxadia, danaSaulebriv saqmianobebsac<br />

agrZelebs. me isic vici,<br />

rom Coxeli am Tanamdebobaze tripolskis<br />

rekomentaciiT dasves.<br />

winasaarCevnod, roca zaqaria<br />

qucnaSvili sofel mezvriaanT karSi<br />

xalxs xvdeboda, masTan Selaparakeba<br />

momixda. vkiTxe, _ Tu du-<br />

SeTis deputatobaze gqonda pretenzia,<br />

aqamde sad iyavi da ratom<br />

ar amoiRe xma Coxelze-meTqi? Sempirda,<br />

rom aucileblad miiRebda<br />

zomebs da damnaSavec daisjeboda,<br />

magram es gvari, qucnaSvils, mas mere<br />

arc uxsenebia. cxadia, gonivruli<br />

eWvi maqvs, rom gizo Coxelma,<br />

qucnaSvilic moqrTama.. rac Seexeba<br />

auditis daskvnas, is axalia,<br />

ori-sami Tvis dawerili da aucileblad<br />

sruli saxiT gadmogcemT.<br />

rogorc miTxres, auditis daskvnidan<br />

meore-mesame dRes gamgeobaSi<br />

kontrolis palata Tu prokuratura<br />

Sevida, magram Coxels<br />

hyavs politikuri mama _ irakli<br />

tripolski da isev gadarCa. Ss<br />

saministros kadrebis samsaxurSi<br />

vinme Coxeli muSaobs da amboben,<br />

is iqidan mfarvelobso da awyobili<br />

aqvs saqme portirebul „nacionals”.<br />

sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />

vacxadeb: Coxeli aris TaRli-<br />

Ti, kriminali da damnaSave. municipalitetis<br />

realuri mmarTveli<br />

aris dedamisi. xalxi mas rux kardinals<br />

eZaxis, radgan vin, sad da<br />

rodis unda dainiSnos, faqtobrivad,<br />

is wyvets da mere Svili oficialurad<br />

aformebs, rasac dediko<br />

etyvis.“<br />

duSeTis municipalitetis 2014-<br />

2015 wlebis safinanso-ekonomikuri<br />

saqmianobis Sesabamisobis auditis<br />

vrcel angariSs (#71/36), sadac<br />

bevri saintereso faqtia moyvanili,<br />

„qronika+” Semdeg nomerSi<br />

SemogTavazebT.<br />

sakiTxSi ukeT garkvevis mizniT,<br />

Tavdapirvelad, duSeTis gamgeobis<br />

pressamsaxuris warmomad-<br />

genels, Tekla beqaurs vesaubreT<br />

da detalurad avuxseniT sakiTxi:<br />

_ gamgebeli adgilze ar imyofeba<br />

da saRamos ukrainaSi mifrinavs.<br />

ver getyviT, moxerxdeba Tu<br />

ara es komentari. SemiZlia, axla<br />

davukavSirde da vuTxra, rom<br />

Tqven damirekeT. am wuTSi is emzadeba<br />

da unda gafrindes. 17 Tebervals<br />

CamobrZandeba da ara mgonia,<br />

es sakiTxi saCqaro iyos.<br />

_ duSeTis gamgeblis<br />

ukrainaSi vizitis gamo<br />

gazeTis gamocemas ver<br />

SevaCerebT.<br />

_ kiTxvebi eleqtronul<br />

fostaze gamogzavneT<br />

da vnaxoT.<br />

cxadia, gavagzavneT<br />

da pasuxs davelodeT.<br />

mogvianebiT<br />

pressamsaxurisgan<br />

Semdegi Setyobineba<br />

miviReT: „fiz-<br />

zaqaria qucnaSvili<br />

ikurad ar SemiZlia mivawodo. ar<br />

mosula isev. vfiqrob, ver moxerxdeba<br />

es komentari“.<br />

,,qronika+“-ma irakli tri-<br />

polskisTan dakavSireba scada.<br />

parlamentaris samuSao kabinetis<br />

nomerze misma TanaSemwe giorgim<br />

gvipasuxa:<br />

_ samuSao daasrula da ukve<br />

wavida.<br />

roca avuxseniT, ra sakiTxTan<br />

dakavSirebiT vurekavdiT, Zalian<br />

gabrazda:<br />

_ me erT rames getyviT: aravin<br />

aravis ar mfarvelobs, baton vaJas<br />

Tavis pirad gamoZiebaSi RmerTma<br />

xeli moumarTos, magram sanam sxvaze<br />

xels gaiSvers, Tavis Tavze<br />

dafiqrdes.<br />

_ ki magram, Tqven am TemasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT saqmis kursSi xarT?<br />

_ me araferi vici, magram rom<br />

ar vici, amitom vambob, _ sanam ambavs<br />

Jurnalistebamde miitans,<br />

SeuZlia, Tu raime pretenzia aqvs,<br />

jer im adamianTan ilaparakos.<br />

TanaSemwem batoni iraklis piradi<br />

telefoni mogvca, romelzec<br />

davurekeT, magram jer dakaveba<br />

hqonda, mere ki ar gvipasuxa.<br />

,,qronika+“ zaqaria qucnaSvil-<br />

sac daukavSirda:<br />

_ arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />

xelmZRvanels garkveuli pre-<br />

tenziebi aqvs duSeTis gamgeblis<br />

mimarT da is acxadebs, rom amis<br />

Sesaxeb winasaarCevnod Tqvenc<br />

SegatyobinaT. dapirebulxarT<br />

kidec, rom sakiTxs SeiswavlidiT<br />

da moagvarebdiT, magram es adamiani<br />

ambobs, rom mere aRar dain-<br />

teresebulxarT. mas gonivruli<br />

eWvi aqvs, rom Tqven duSeTis<br />

gamgebels mfarvelobT...<br />

_ ganaTlebuli qalbatoni br-<br />

ZandebiT da ra cnoba unda miiRos<br />

kanonmdebelma aseT dros, xom ver<br />

metyviT?<br />

_ is ambobs, rom es aris kanon-<br />

darRvevebi da danaSauli, batono<br />

zaqaria...<br />

_ hoda, kanonmdebelma ra unda<br />

qnas-meTqi, iqneb, miTxraT? egrec<br />

rom iyos, eg pirovneba rogorc saubros,<br />

kanonmdebelma ra unda qnas?<br />

_ kanonis dacvaze izrunos, Se-<br />

sabamis uwyebebs rekomendaciiT<br />

mimarTos, kanonis aRsruleba gaa-<br />

kontrolos..<br />

12 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

axalgazrdebma Tavisi SromiTi<br />

rezo SatakiSvili<br />

uflebebis dasacavad xma aima-<br />

Rles. am procesma, TiTqmis,<br />

paralelurad ifeTqa „biblussa” da „freskoSi”. damafiqrebe-<br />

lia is, rasac es adamianebi aprotesteben da asmagad dama-<br />

fiqrebelia is, rac mohyva maT protests. solidarobas vin<br />

Civis, yvelam TiTo lodi dauSina sakuTari volidan am axalgazrdebs<br />

Casaqolad da metic, gaxsnes Tema, vin, sad da ram-<br />

deni aiRo pirvel xelfasad.<br />

rasac axla vwer, aranairad ar<br />

exeba arc „freskos”, arc „bibluss”.<br />

imitom ki ara, rom eWvi Semaqvs<br />

im adamianebis gulwrfelobaSi,<br />

romlebmac gausaZlisi pirobebi<br />

gaaprotestes, aramed imitom,<br />

rom swored aseTive gausaZlisi<br />

pirobebia mTel qveyanaSi, yvela<br />

supermarketSi, yvela didsa Tu patara<br />

dawesebulebaSi da es Cven<br />

yvelam gadasarevad viciT. viciT<br />

da Cumad varT, viciT da xmas ar<br />

viRebT, viciT da fexebze gvkidia<br />

sxva da metic, Tuki vinme xmas amoiRebs,<br />

nacvlad imisa, rom maT<br />

adgilze Cveni Tavi, Cveni umcrosi<br />

debi, Zmebi, Cveni megobrebi warmovidginoT,<br />

maT iqiT vamunaTebT da<br />

umal gazuluqebuli damsaqmeblebis<br />

gverdiT vkalaTdebiT. ratom?<br />

imitom xom ara, rom CvenSic<br />

potenciuri plantatoria da maT-<br />

Tan ufro vaxdenT identifikacias?<br />

ra, ar viciT, ra xelfasad da<br />

ra pirobebSi uwevT am gogo-biWebs<br />

muSaoba ginda, „freskoSi”, gindac,<br />

„niSaSi” da gindac, „nikoraSi”?<br />

Tvalebi ar gaqvT? ar uyurebT am<br />

TvalebamoRamebul kafandara<br />

gogo-biWebs? ar iciT, ramden larad<br />

uwevT dRis da Ramis gasworeba?<br />

namusi marTla jarTSi CaabareT?<br />

rom gamodixarT da urcxvad<br />

tlikinebT, xelSekrulebebs rom<br />

xels awerdnen, ar icodnen, ra<br />

pirobebze midiodnen samuSaodo?<br />

jer erTi, romc ar kiTxulobdnen<br />

es gogo-biWebi am xelSekrulebebs<br />

da ise awerdnen xels da iwyebdnen<br />

muSaobas, ra, es am Taobis<br />

nouhaua? aqamde yvela lupiT<br />

kiTxulobda am qveyanaSi xelSekrulebebs<br />

da am gogo-biWebma daiwyes<br />

xelSekrulebebze waukiTxavad<br />

xelmowera? enas rom kiserze<br />

kaSnesaviT igdebT laqlaqisgan,<br />

erTi, Tqven ramdenjer gaqvT wakiTxuli<br />

striqon-striqon yvela<br />

xelSekruleba, razec ki odesme<br />

xeli mogiweriaT?<br />

cxadia, yvela maTganma icoda,<br />

ra kapikebzedac midiodnen samuSaod<br />

_ gasamrjelos yvela kiTxulobs.<br />

davuSvaT da xelSekrulebac<br />

wakiTxuli hqondaT da yvela<br />

pirobas iyvnen winaswar gacnobilebi<br />

da daTanxdnen am pirobebs,<br />

ra, sulwasulebs amoxrialebis<br />

uflebac aRar aqvT? ki, daTanxmdnen<br />

mag anazRaurebas, magram sxva<br />

arCevani hqondaT? kiTxulobT<br />

mainc, ramdengan mividnen es gogobiWebi<br />

samuSaos Zebnisas, ramdengan<br />

uTxres igive anazRaureba da ra<br />

qnan? arsad ar imuSaon da mSivrebi<br />

iyvnen? ra, sxvagan am bavSvebs<br />

vinme met anazRaurebas sTavazobda<br />

da isini mividnen da am konkretul<br />

obieqtebze dasTanxmdnen dabal<br />

anazRaurebas? ra unda qnas<br />

adamianma, rodesac yvelgan erTi<br />

da igive pirobebia? yyelgan erTi<br />

da igive _ dabali da gausaZlisi<br />

pirobebi? an rom SedixarT da am<br />

mSromel gogo-biWebs zemodan<br />

uyurebT, Tavi vin ggoniaT, Tqven<br />

patriciebi brZandebiT da isini _<br />

monebi? rodesac saxlSi giyriaT<br />

gazuluqebuli, paraziti Svilebi,<br />

macivridan mza saWmelsac rom ver<br />

iReben da Tqven gelodebian, SoSiis<br />

bartyebiviT pirSi CaudoT, ar<br />

grcxveniaT mainc, am mSromel bavSvebs<br />

rom zemodan uyurebT?! maTgan<br />

rom amerikul Rimils iTxovT,<br />

im amerikebSi da evropebSi rom<br />

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pirveli<br />

xelfasi<br />

datlakunobT, erTi im amerikel,<br />

evropel momxmareblebsac SexedeT,<br />

TqvensaviT bRveriT pasuxoben<br />

supermarketebsa Tu bar-restornebSi<br />

dasaqmebul adamianebs?<br />

aa, ukacravad, magaT RimilSi uxdian<br />

da Tqven ara, xom? emand, RmerTi<br />

ar gagiwyreT, qarTveloba<br />

aravin wagarTvaT, muqTad Subli<br />

ar gaxsnaT, daibRvireT, mujlugunic<br />

wahkariT, TavSic CaafareT am<br />

bavSvebs.<br />

yvelas aqvs ufleba, eWvi Seitanos<br />

am adamianebis protestis<br />

gulwrfelobaSi, Tundac, ivaraudos,<br />

rom es am konkretuli kompaniebis<br />

konkurenti kompaniebisgan<br />

agorebuli kampaniaa am kompaniebis<br />

CasaZirad. yvelas aqvs ufleba,<br />

cota ambiciurad eCvenos es gogobiWebi<br />

da, ra Tqma unda, imis uflebac<br />

gaqvT, daiboRmoT maT mcire<br />

xelfasebzec da bonusebzec, romelsac<br />

jarimebiT ukreWen. erTi<br />

xeliT bonuss aZleven, meoriT _<br />

jarimis saxiT aWrian. ki, azris gamoxatvis<br />

Tavisuflebis egidiT da<br />

safarqveS boRmis nTxevis uflebac<br />

gaqvT, eg Tqveni boRmac „legitimuria”,<br />

magram ra gboRmavT?<br />

giyurebT da Tqven Semxedvares,<br />

iciT, ra maxsendeba? adreul bavSvobaSi<br />

yvela moxuci gvaZaxebda,<br />

Tqven omi ar ginaxavT, Tqven omi<br />

ar ginaxavTo! mere moxda ise, rom<br />

yvela omi vnaxeT, Tan maTsaviT distanciurad<br />

_ kavkasions gadaRma<br />

ki ara, ager aq, cxvirwin _ Tbilis-<br />

Si, samaCabloSi, afxazeTSi, yvela<br />

omma da ubedurebam Cvens zurgze<br />

gadaiara. axla Tqvenc im myrali<br />

bebrebiviT damdgarxarT da ixsenebT,<br />

vin ra gausaZlis pirobeb-<br />

Si daiwyeT muSaoba da ramden kapiks<br />

gixdidnen. anu ra? rom Tqven<br />

uaresi gaqvT gamovlili xmis amouReblad<br />

da rakiRa Tqven es jojoxeTi<br />

gamoiareT, yvelam es jojoxeTi<br />

unda gamoiaros dRes? xa-<br />

Tuna cxadaZis Tqmis ar iyos: „...ukacravad<br />

da vis ra fexebad ainteresebs,<br />

vin ramdens viRebdiT xelfass<br />

da vis ramodona qaqi gviWamia?<br />

maSin arc deni gvqonda, arc<br />

gazi, arc sxva sikeTe da arc evropaze<br />

da warmatebul saxelmwifoze<br />

yrantalebdnen qveynis „liderebi”.<br />

rom movketoT da Tu vinmes ramiT<br />

SegviZlia, mxari davuWiroT am axalgazrdebs,<br />

romlebsac marTla<br />

Zalian uWirT am aRviraxsnil qveyanaSi,<br />

sabazro ekonomikaze rom<br />

ratratebs (da bananebis respublikamdec<br />

bevri ar aklia), ar Sei-<br />

Zleba?” (xaTuna cxadaZis postidan).<br />

ra gindaT, rogorc Tqven daitanjeT,<br />

ise gindaT, rom dResac<br />

itanjebodnen? grZnobT, rom mag<br />

damokidebulebiT gaavebuli, gaborotebuli<br />

bebrebi xarT, asakisda<br />

miuxedavad? an im pirvel samsaxurebs<br />

da xelfasebs rom ixsenebT<br />

rixiT da trampa-cumpiT, goCa<br />

mircxulavas Tqmis ar iyos, barem,<br />

imazec dawereT, proteqtciiT rom<br />

moxvdiT im pirvel samsaxurebSi da<br />

Tqvenze Wkviani daCagreT.<br />

ara, arc pirveli samsaxurisa da<br />

pirveli xelfasis gaxsenebaa rame<br />

mankiereba, roca talRa agordeba,<br />

Zalauneburad mogeZaleba es<br />

fiqrebi, gagaxsendeba is pirveli<br />

gasamrjeloc, Seni SromiT miRebuli<br />

da is gasamrjelo tkbilia, rac<br />

ar unda katorRul pirobebSi iyos<br />

mopovebuli, junglebSi naSovni<br />

alali lukmac gemrielia, magram<br />

meorea, ras upirispireb am Sens<br />

tkbil-mware mogonebebs? vis wisqvilze<br />

asxam wyals am yvelafriT?<br />

ise CawixleT es sawyali bavSvebi,<br />

sadme vinmeRa gabedavs xmis amoRebas<br />

sakuTar SromiT uflebebze?<br />

Tan imoZRvrebiT, sakuTari uflebebi<br />

unda icodeTo, misi dacvao.<br />

scades am bavSvebma da ra miiRes<br />

pasuxad? solidarobis nacvlad<br />

sruli isterika, rom, Turme, „freskoSi”<br />

SesaniSnavi, komfortuli<br />

momsaxurebaa, rom, Turme, „biblusSi”<br />

komfortuli momsaxurebaa.<br />

eg Tqveni komforti swored mag<br />

axalgazrdebis mxrebze rom dgas,<br />

Tu iciT? Tu kompaniis direqtorebi,<br />

an gazuluqebuli topmenejerebi<br />

gemsaxurebian, rodesac<br />

SedixarT? eg komfortuli momsaxureba<br />

rom mogwonT, mxolod Tqveni<br />

komforti gaRelvebT? im adamianebis<br />

diskomforti arafrad giRirT,<br />

vinc mag komforts uzrunvelyofs?<br />

Tqven, eg axalgazrdebi,<br />

ukiduresi materialuri gaWirvebis<br />

gamo rom mand muSaoben, marTla<br />

uvici gogo-biWebi xom ar<br />

ggoniaT? ikiTxeT mainc, sad swavloben<br />

im amoRamebuli TvalebiT,<br />

rom rogorme swavlis gadasaxadi<br />

gadaixadon, binis qira gadaixadon<br />

da 2 lukma Wamon? mxolod imitom,<br />

rom maTi mSoblebi TqvensaviT<br />

aTas kldeze ver gadaxtnen da ver<br />

uzrunvelyves da ver uzrunvelyofen<br />

maT srulfasovan cxovrebas?<br />

an mag bavSvebs rom sTxovT xelSekrulebebis<br />

wakiTxvas, erTi im<br />

damsaqmebelTa moTxovnebSic CaixedeT,<br />

ratom aweseben asakobriv<br />

zRvars da ratom iTxoven mxolod<br />

sasiamovno garegnobas miRebisas<br />

da ratom sTxoven mere maT kvalifikacias?<br />

ras fiqroben, rodesac<br />

18-19 wlis axalgazrdebs konsultantebad<br />

naTlaven? manamde, vidre<br />

TbilisSi wignis amdeni maRazia<br />

gaixsneboda, pekinze iyo da axlacaa<br />

wignis saxli. iq muSaobda da,<br />

vgoneb, dResac muSaobs konsultantad<br />

axalgazrda qali (da ara 18-<br />

ode wlis gogona), friad nakiTxi,<br />

ganaTlebuli, amomwuravad flobda,<br />

ra wignebs yidda; SeeZlo, mar-<br />

Tlac erCia wigni, dawyebuli<br />

Targmanis xarisxiT, damTavrebuli<br />

literaturis bolo tendenciebiT.<br />

igives SeZlebs studenti, iSviaTi<br />

gamonaklisis garda? an supermarketSi<br />

19 wlis gogos an biWs<br />

konsultants rom daarqmev,<br />

romelmac momxmarebels unda ur-<br />

Cios, flobdes informacias ama Tu<br />

im produqtze, ukacravad da,<br />

ranairad iqneba misi rCeva kvalificiuri?<br />

sasursaTo saqonelmcodnea?<br />

an gausinjavs ki is, rasac<br />

yidis, rom piris gemoTi mainc gir-<br />

Cios rame? dRemde yurebSi midgas<br />

erTi konsultanti gogonas naTqvami,<br />

_ rogor mogatyuoT, me arc<br />

erTi miWamia. Zvlebi damewva, es<br />

rom miTxra da Tqven an Zvlebi ar<br />

gaqvT, an guli? aseTi uZvlo da<br />

ugulo ra mamam gagakeTaT, ra<br />

dedam gSobaT? daxedeT fasebs, ra<br />

Rirs rigi dasaxelebis produqtebi,<br />

Tundac, Tevzi! saidan icodes<br />

250-larianma konsultantma, romeli<br />

Tevzi ukeTesia _ 100-lariani<br />

Tu 90-lariani?<br />

ra yvela bewvi da banjgvli amoiglijeT,<br />

amoiputeT, ra Tqves am<br />

bavSvebma? rogor Tu gabedes da 8-<br />

saaTiani samuSao dRe axsenes? Tavi<br />

rom mwvane kitrebad mogaqvT, iciT<br />

mainc, ris fasad miaRwia kacobriobam<br />

am 8-saaTian samuSao dRes? an<br />

ase gamgelebulebi rom icavT mag<br />

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lia, vxedav xol-<br />

_ kargi mezobenebi<br />

dgas<br />

me, gasvlisas di-<br />

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laobiT, Torem ise xSirad _ ara.<br />

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ria urTierTobaSi?<br />

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_ gmadlobT.<br />

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kiTxva maqvs, Tu SeiZleba.<br />

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Suaxnis mamakacma gamomxeda:<br />

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

gazeT „qronika+”-dan, sozar su-<br />

baris komfortis zonaze vwer,<br />

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minaxavs.<br />

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cxovroben...<br />

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ukeT gadameRo. asec<br />

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maRaziebi, silamazis salonebi<br />

da kafe-barebi. namdvilad mosaxerxebeli<br />

da komfortuli<br />

adgilia sacxovreblad.<br />

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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

`trasaze<br />

gaWedili<br />

magnoliasaviT<br />

migvaTrevs<br />

rusi oligarqi<br />

imperiis ukana<br />

ezoSi<br />

Casargavad~<br />

qveyanaSi da „nacionalur<br />

moZraobaSi” mimdinare procesebze<br />

„qronika+” esaubreba „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” aqtiur mxar-<br />

damWersa da dRes ukve partiis<br />

politsabWos wevrs, qalbaton<br />

rusudan cirekiZes:<br />

_ bolo periodSi „naciona-<br />

lurma moZraobam” urTulesi<br />

procesebi gamoiara. Tqven, rogorc<br />

mxardamWeri, aqtiurad iyav-<br />

iT CarTuli procesebSi. rodis<br />

mixvdiT, rom raRac ise ar xde-<br />

boda partiaSi, rogorc saWiro<br />

iyo?<br />

_ 2011 wlamde politikur procesebSi<br />

CarTuli ar vyofilvar.<br />

mTeli es periodi, roca „nacmoZraoba”<br />

xelisuflebaSi iyo, mSvidad<br />

vcxovrobdi, vicodi, rom<br />

Cemi samSoblo mtrisgan daculi<br />

iyo, damoukideblobas ar davkargavdiT<br />

da Tu qveynis damoukideblobas<br />

safrTxe ar daemqureboda,<br />

es qveyana ganviTardeboda. iseT<br />

swraf ganviTarebas, rac maSin xdeboda,<br />

aRfrTovanebis meti araferi<br />

ar SeiZleboda gamoewvia CemSi. magram<br />

es aRfrTovaneba, maSinac ki,<br />

ZiriTadad, dakavSirebuli iyo mxolod<br />

erT adamianTan, maSinve vxedavdi,<br />

rom am yvelafris Zravi iyo<br />

erTi adamiani. saboloo jamSi,<br />

gamoCnda kidec es. rodesac mixeil<br />

saakaSvili procesebidan ZaldatanebiT<br />

Caxsnes, es partiasac daetyo.<br />

2012 wels vinmes rom ekiTxa,<br />

rogori iqneboda „nacmoZraoba”,<br />

aseTi mZlavri partia, opoziciaSi<br />

gadasvlis SemTxvevaSi,<br />

imas verafriT warmovidgendi,<br />

rac 2012 wlis Semdeg vnaxeT. es<br />

iyo aCrdili imisa, rac manamde iyo.<br />

Tumca mec iseve, rogorc yvela, im<br />

9 wlis manZilze, Secdomebsac vxedavdi,<br />

rac Cems axloblebsac Seexo.<br />

man ver SeZlo damoukidebeli<br />

sasamarTlo sistemis Seqmna. vxedavdi<br />

sxva ramesac, vxedavdi Casafrebul,<br />

gaborotebul, usindiso<br />

adamianebs, romlebic nebismier waforxilebas<br />

tragediad da politikuri<br />

spekulaciis iaraRad aqcevdnen<br />

da me da CemisTanebs saSualebas<br />

ar gvaZlevdnen, gagveprotestebina<br />

is, rac namdvilad gasaprotestebeli<br />

iyo da xelisuflebisTvis<br />

dagvenaxvebina Tavisi Secdomebi,<br />

magram moxda is, rac moxda,<br />

_ 2012 wels xelisufleba rusma<br />

oligarqma Caigdo xelSi. rogorc<br />

ki movismine ivaniSvilis pirvelive<br />

interviu 2011 wels, maSinve<br />

gavifiqre, daviRupeT-meTqi<br />

da im dRidan var „nacmoZraobis”<br />

aqtiuri mxardamWeri. 2012 wels<br />

„nacmos” arCevnebi ar waugia, „nacmom”<br />

waago mravalwliani sainformacio<br />

omi rusul specsamsaxurebTan.<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ wlebis manZilze iqmneboda<br />

miTebi, adamianebs mizanmimarTulad<br />

uqmnidnen ganwyobas, rom „nacmo”<br />

moZaladea. cxadia, SeuZlebelia,<br />

rom es regioni rusuli specsamsaxurebis<br />

aqtiuri yuradRebisa<br />

da Carevis gareSe darCeniliyo.<br />

ratomRac, yovelTvis megona, rom<br />

am mimarTulebiTac muSaobdnen<br />

Cveni specsamsaxurebi, magram aRmoCnda,<br />

rom sainformacio omi wavageT<br />

da amis gamo axla ukve SeiZleba,<br />

qveyanac wavagoT. „nacionalur<br />

moZraobas” hqonda poza, dae ilaparakon,<br />

dae, iWoraon. aseTi ganwyoba<br />

iyo 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 wleb-<br />

Si. xeli ar SeuSales maSindel<br />

opozicias, romelic zogi uneblie<br />

Semsrulebeli iyo specsamsaxurebis<br />

scenaris, zogi am scenarSi ijda,<br />

roli hqonda mikuTvnebuli da<br />

mSvenivrad icoda, rasac akeTebda,<br />

am sainformacio oms ar SeuSales<br />

xeli da adamianebs ganwyoba Seuqmnes,<br />

rom „nacmo” moZaladea. cixis<br />

kadrebi am omis mxolod garkveulwilad<br />

gadamwyveti, magram<br />

erT-erTi epizodi iyo. gaxsovT,<br />

albaT, warwera „5" saknebze, cixis<br />

kadrebSi. Tavidan cinizmad miviCnie,<br />

magram Semdeg mivxvdi, ra asociaciur<br />

jaWvsac qmnidnen sainformacio<br />

stresisgan mowyvladi<br />

adamianebis cnobierebaSi _<br />

5=nacmos=Zaladobas...<br />

_ TqviT, „nacmom” xeli ar Se-<br />

uSala am miTebis Seqmnaso, arc<br />

mere gaukeTebia rame mag miTebis<br />

dasangrevad. Cven iqiT, sazoga-<br />

doebas vadanaSaulebT, rom man<br />

daijera organoebiT vaWroba,<br />

cocxiT gaupatiureba. marTlac<br />

saRi goneba da mcireodeni ga-<br />

naTlebaa saWiro imisTvis, icode,<br />

rom ase ar xdeba organoebis<br />

transplantacia, rom cocxi ase<br />

ar Sedis ukana tanSi da Tu Sedis,<br />

adamiani ver isaubrebs da a. S.,<br />

magram faqtia isic, rom sazoga-<br />

doebis didi nawili moklebulia<br />

am codnasac da mixvedrilobasac,<br />

magram ra gaakeTa „nacionalurma<br />

moZraobam” an imTaviTve, an Sem-<br />

deg mTeli 4 wlis manZilze? may-<br />

urebels aCvena, Tundac, naxevar-<br />

saaTiani samecniero-popularuli<br />

filmi organoebis transplanta-<br />

ciaze, rom am xalxs enaxa, rogor<br />

xdeba organoebis gadanergva? an<br />

gamoiyvana vinme proqtologi da<br />

hkiTxa, SeiZleba Tu ara, rom<br />

cocxiT gaupatiurebulma adami-<br />

anma ilaparakos? axla, ar miT-<br />

xraT, rom teleresursebi ar hqo-<br />

ndaT...<br />

_ Tqven CemTvis yvelaze mtkivneul<br />

Temas miadeqiT. 2012 wlidan<br />

es iyo Cemi mTavari pretenzia maT-<br />

Tan. miTebis dasangrevad arafers<br />

akeTebdnen. marTali giTxraT, cixis<br />

kadrebze Tavidan iseTi isterika<br />

iyo, absoluturad warmoudgeneli<br />

gaxldaT adamianebisTvis<br />

simarTlis axsna. amitom arc gamikvirvebia,<br />

„nacmoZraoba” rom dumda.<br />

Semdeg amas dabneulobas vabralebdi,<br />

aTas mizezs veZebdi maTi<br />

pasiurobis asaxsnelad, magram<br />

dro gadioda da vxedavdi, rom<br />

partia arafers akeTebda. „nacmo”<br />

am oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi am procesebis<br />

pasiuri monawile iyo, „efesbes”<br />

SemoTavazebul TamaSSi ma-<br />

Tive wesebiT TamaSobda da yru<br />

Tavdacvis reJimSi spontanurad<br />

iqnevda xel-fexs. amaze saubari axla<br />

ar dagviwyia, mTeli es wlebi,<br />

me da Cemi megobrebi, am Temaze velaparakebodiT<br />

liderebs, dausruleblad<br />

vusvamdiT erTsa da<br />

imave kiTxvas, ratom ar scemT pasuxi<br />

binZur ciliswamebebs, ratom<br />

ar muSaobT imaze, rom es miTebi<br />

daingres, rom moxdes „nacmos” dedemonizacia!<br />

vuxsnidiT, rom araferi<br />

gamovidoda, Tu xalxs ar movuxsnidiT<br />

am fiqsirebul negatiur<br />

ganwyobas, rom „nacmo” moZaladea.<br />

_ erTi, rom arafers akeTebd-<br />

nen am miTebis dasangrevad, magram<br />

meorea, romc ecadaT, SeZlebdnen<br />

ase fesvgadgmuli miTebis dangre-<br />

vas?<br />

_ diax! mogexsenebaT, iyo erTerTi<br />

aseTi miTi, rom agvistos<br />

omis dros „nacionalebi”wiTel<br />

xidze garbodnen. rodesac am<br />

Temaze Tbilisis forumze saubari<br />

wamoiwyes, Cven, iuzerebma, ar<br />

davizareT da saTanado dokumenturi<br />

masala amoviReT omis dReeb-<br />

Si gamarTul saparlamento ganxilvidan,<br />

aseve, erT-erT media sa-<br />

SualebaSi gasajaroebuli sazRvris<br />

dacvis departamentis monacemebi,<br />

es yvelaferi qronologiurad<br />

davalageT da Cvens oponentebs<br />

detalurad CamovuwereT,<br />

romeli Tanamdebobis piri, romel<br />

ricxvSi, romel saaTze gavida saz-<br />

Rvarze da Semovida. es imdenad<br />

TvalsaCino iyo, rom saerTod Sewyda<br />

iq am Temaze laparaki. Semdeg<br />

es masalebi goga xaCiZes gadavugzavne.<br />

goga xaCiZem Tavadac moikvlia<br />

dokumentebi da daamata. Semdeg<br />

eTerSi ijda, beselia hyavda<br />

oponenti, beseliac gaaCuma da es<br />

Temac mokvda. e. i. SeiZleboda, ara,<br />

am miTis dangreva? magram... goga<br />

xaCiZis epizodi iyo meinstrimidan<br />

amovardnili, meinstrimi iyo is,<br />

rom amaze pasuxi ar unda gaecaT.<br />

me, magaliTad, mTeli es wlebi davitanje<br />

im kiTxvaze pasuxis uqonlobiT,<br />

rom ase Wkvian xalxs ratom<br />

ar esmis es elementaruli?<br />

iseTi SegrZneba mqonda, rom<br />

kedels vayridi cercvs.<br />

_ bolo dros eWvi gaCnda, rom<br />

es demonizacia-miTologizacia,<br />

igive baCo axalaiasa da mis „ba-<br />

lkonze” dabmuli mglebis, aseve<br />

mixeil saakaSvilis, garkveul-<br />

wilad, swored mag jgufisgan iyo<br />

orkestrirebuli, vinc Tavze nac-<br />

ars iyrida. am gadasaxedidan xom<br />

ar fiqrobT, rom es demonizacia<br />

marTlac maTgan iyo orkestrirebuli<br />

da amitomac ar cdilobd-<br />

nen am miTebis ngrevas?<br />

_ baCo axalaia marTlac demonis<br />

rangSi iyo ayvanili, masze yvelaze<br />

meti miTi Seiqmna. 14 braldebidan<br />

13 gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni<br />

ivaniSvilis sasamarTloSi da me-<br />

ToTxmeteSi mowmed vladimer<br />

bedukaZe! baCom Tavad daamsxvria<br />

mis Sesaxeb arsebuli binZuri miTi<br />

da braldebebi gaabaTila. Tvalsa<br />

da xels Sua ingreoda miTi baCo<br />

axalaiaze, magram amaze yvela dumda<br />

ani nadareiSvilis garda, romlis<br />

xma sakmarisi ar iyo imisTvis,<br />

rom es qveynisTvis gasagebi gamxdariyo.<br />

_ Tumca, bolos mainc, yvelam<br />

yvelaferi gaigo.<br />

_ diax, droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />

gaiges, magram gaiges „nacionaluri<br />

moZarobis” dauxmareblad, anu „nacionalur<br />

moZraobas” araferi<br />

gaukeTebia imisTvis, rom es miTi<br />

dangreuliyo. me Tavidanve miCndeboda<br />

kiTxva, miTi ingreva da ratom<br />

ar eweva „nacionaluri<br />

moZraoba” amis popularizacias?<br />

Tundac ratom ar iyenebdnen imisTvis,<br />

rom xalxisTvis eCvenebinaT,<br />

ai, esec Tqveni mTavari demoni,<br />

xom xedavT, yvelaferi tyuili<br />

da SeTiTxnili yofila? am adamianebs<br />

es xom ganawyobda, sxva miTebisTvisac<br />

eWviT SeexedaT? rac Seexeba<br />

mixeil saakaSvils, saakaSvili<br />

iyo lideri da rogorc pozitivi,<br />

aRmSenebloba, ise mTeli negativi,<br />

rac enm-s winaaRdeg dagrovda,<br />

specsamsaxurebis SeTiTxnili, Tu<br />

obieqturad arsebuli Secdomebis<br />

gamo, yvelaferi aiweba mixeil<br />

saakaSvilma. „nacmoZraobis” interesebSi<br />

unda yofiliyo, rom mixeil<br />

saakaSvilis irgvliv arsebuli mi-<br />

Tologia gaeqarwylebina. es ar<br />

moxda, piriqiT... am Temaze vfiqrobdi<br />

da mudmivad am Temaze<br />

vlaparakobdi 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015<br />

wlebSi, dausruleblad vsvamdi SekiTxvebs,<br />

pasuxs ver viRebdi,<br />

kedels velaparakebodi... megobrebi<br />

damcinodnen, cercvi Tu Semogelia,<br />

SemogaSvelebTo. mikvirda,<br />

rogor ver xvdebodnen, rom am<br />

miTebis dangrevisa da „nacmos” reabilitaciis<br />

gareSe araferi gamovidoda.<br />

Zalian kargad maxsovs seriozuli<br />

kamaTi erT-erT lider-<br />

Tan. gveubneboda, _ eseni mainc<br />

gafarCakdebian, ekonomikuri problemebi<br />

wamova win da am ekonomikuri<br />

problemebis gamo SeiZuleben<br />

„qocebs”, biZinas. veubnebodiT,<br />

rom diax, asea, magram ekonomikur<br />

problemebze aseTi aqcentireba da<br />

amaze Zvirfasi satelevizio drois<br />

xarjva ar iyo saWiro, rom xalxi<br />

maT gareSec, Tavadac mSvenivrad<br />

xvdeba, rogor angrevs ekonomikas<br />

qocxelisufleba, laris kursi ra<br />

dReSicaa, yoveldRe xedavs savaluto<br />

jixuris abraze, grZnobs sakuTar<br />

jibeze, am Temebs media aSuqebs.<br />

xalxi am xelisuflebis namdvil<br />

saxes xedavs. quCaSi rom adamiani<br />

gaaCero, „nacmoZraobis” nebismier<br />

liderze ukeTesad CamogiTvlis<br />

yvela im danaSaulsa da ubedurebas,<br />

rac ivaniSvilma damarTa<br />

qveyanas, magram iqve mogibrundeba<br />

da getyvis, rom „nacionalebi”<br />

mainc ar unda, rom „nacionalebi”<br />

mainc ver mobrundebian. ar SeiZleba,<br />

damians dausruleblad is uCi-<br />

Cino, rom uCemod, ai, ra gaWirvebaSi<br />

xar.<br />

_ mogitraildeba da getyvis,<br />

ki miWirs, magram Sen mainc ar min-<br />

dixaro.<br />

_ ambobdnen kidec da mudmivad<br />

vawydebodiT amas. ar unda imitom,<br />

rom maT cnobierSi, qvecnobierSi<br />

Camjdaria specsamsaxurebis mier<br />

wlebis manZilze namuSevari, rom<br />

nacmoZraoba aris „demonebis”,<br />

sisxlismsmelebis banda. vuxsnidiT,<br />

rom Tu „nacmos” reabilitacia<br />

ar moxdeboda, „ocnebis” mxardam-<br />

WerTa raodenobis Semcireba ar<br />

konvertirdeboda „nacmos” mxardamWerTa<br />

zrdad, rom Tu xangr-<br />

Zlivi zemoqmedebiT Seqmnili fiqsirebuli<br />

negatiuri ganwyoba ar<br />

daingreoda, Tu xalxi ar dainaxvda<br />

da ar daijerebda, rom is, rac<br />

maT wlebis ganmavlobaSi nacmoze<br />

esmodaT miTebi da legendebi iyo,<br />

arc mousmendnen maT. mikvirda, es<br />

Wkiani xalxi rogor ver xvdeboda<br />

amas, maSin mimaCda, rom es iyo Secdoma,<br />

dRes ukve, am gadasaxedidan<br />

vxvdebi, rom es iyo mizandasaxuli<br />

politika. axla me Cemi Tavisac<br />

mikvirs, rogor vijerebdi, rom<br />

aseTi Wkviani adamianebi, eseTi becebi<br />

iyvnen? mokled, arafers<br />

akeTebdnen miTebis dasangrevad,<br />

saerTod gaurbodnen am Temas. Semdeg<br />

es Seicvala uaresiT - Tavze<br />

nacris dayris sayovelTao kampaniiT,<br />

romelic daiwyes da aRar<br />

daamTavres. yvelaferze bodiSebs<br />

ixdidnen! daxurul jgufSic vwerdiT,<br />

piradadac veubnebodiT, aRar<br />

gamogeliaT „nacari”? gasagebia<br />

16 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

moilaparakes, modi, bodiSebi vixadoT,<br />

iqneb, xalxs guli movulboTo,<br />

magram... ar SeiZleba, aseT<br />

Wkvian adamianebs ar scodnodaT,<br />

rom Tu bodiSi gulwrfeli araa,<br />

rogorc ar unda SefuTo, adamianebi<br />

amas grZnoben. xom aRmoCda,<br />

rom xalxs ar sWirdeboda es bodiSebi?<br />

Cven, „nacmoZraobis” mxardamWerebi,<br />

gaognebuli viyaviT da<br />

vekiTxebodiT, ratom ixdiT yvelaferze<br />

bodiSs, aRiareT Secdomebi<br />

iq, sadac marTla Secdoma<br />

dauSviT, magram nu danebdebiT iq,<br />

sadac marTlebi xarT. imis gamo<br />

vCxubobdiT, rom oligarqis mar-<br />

Tul, qveynis mizandasaxulad damangrevel<br />

xelisuflebas uniaTo<br />

briyvebis imiji daumkvidres. vaprotestebdiT,<br />

rom im qveynis<br />

opozicia, romelic ufskrulisken<br />

mieqaneba, ar unda iqceodes ganvi-<br />

Tarebuli evropuli qveynis opoziciis<br />

msgavsad, romelic Tavis<br />

xelisuflebas qveynis marTvis taqtikur<br />

sakiTxebze edaveba. Cven ar<br />

varT ganviTarebuli evropuli<br />

qveyana, ar gvyavs is xelisufleba,<br />

romelic ganviTarebul evropul<br />

qveynebs hyavT da oponirebac ar<br />

gvWirdeba qveynis marTvis modelebsa<br />

da standartebze. Cven<br />

oponireba gvWirdeba imaze, rom es<br />

qveyana langarze dadebuli ar miarTvan<br />

ruseTs! imaze, rom es qveyana<br />

ar gaaRatakon, ar daaqcion, ar<br />

daamSion da aseTi gaubedurebuli,<br />

daCoqili ar miuTrion da ar daugdon<br />

putins, rogorc morigi gadasaylapi<br />

lukma! am brZolaSi varT<br />

Cven da ar SeiZleba, am brZolaSi<br />

moiqce ise, rogorc evropuli<br />

qveynis standartuli opoziciuri<br />

partia. me es magiJebda, mdgomareobidan<br />

gamovyavdi, magram isev gimeorebT,<br />

am Temaze laparakisas vawydebodiT<br />

kedels. vekiTxebodiT, _<br />

xom xedavT, qveyana saiT mieqaneba,<br />

sad mihyavs rus oligarqs? gvpasuxobdnen,<br />

_ biZina araa ruseTis<br />

interesebis Segnebuli Semsrulebeli,<br />

ubralod, ruseTisa da<br />

ivaniSvilis interesebi emTxveva<br />

erTmaneTso... es, jer kidev, 2012<br />

wels miTxra erT-erTma liderma,<br />

Semdeg sxvamac gaimeora. mivxvdi,<br />

rom es iyo „nacmoZraobis” lider-<br />

Sifis narativi. me darwmunebuli<br />

var, rom mixeil saakaSvili ase ar<br />

fiqrobs, arc fiqrobda da arc<br />

arasodes ufiqria... verc amas vxsnidi<br />

verafriT... uamravi SekiTxva<br />

dagrovda, magram am yvelafers im<br />

imediT viTmendiT, rom iqneb, movigoT<br />

2016 wlis arCevnebi, rom<br />

Camosuliyo miSa da es yvelaferi<br />

daelagebina. imitom ki ara, rom me<br />

beladomani var, an seqtanti var, an<br />

mixeil saakaSvilis biustebi da suraTebi<br />

midevs saxlSi, Cveulebrivad<br />

davinaxe, mTeli am 9 wlis Semoqmedic<br />

miSa iyo da miSas gareSe<br />

marTla ar vvargebulvarT, ubralod...<br />

jer kidev 2015 wlidan moviTxovdiT<br />

kardakar siaruli daewyoT,<br />

adamianebTan Sexvedrebi, moviTxovdiT,<br />

gulaxdilad SeeRoT yvela<br />

saxlis kari da gulwrfelad dalaparakebodnen<br />

adamianebs. imitom,<br />

rom miTebs ar angrevdnen da<br />

aRarc iyo amis dro da arc debatebis<br />

reJimi muSaobda.<br />

_ ra TvalsazrsiT?<br />

_ imitom, rom rTulad laparakoben,<br />

maTi leqsika sakmaod rTuli<br />

aRsaqmelia ubralo adamianebisTvis.<br />

„nacmoZraobidan” mxolod<br />

mixeil saakaSvili laparakobda<br />

xalxisTvis gasageb enaze. danarCeni<br />

Tavisnairebs elaparakeboda, amitomac<br />

vxedavdiT erTaderT gamosavals<br />

kardakar siarulSi, rom<br />

xalxTan misuliyvnen, daenaxaT,<br />

rom Cveulebrivi adamianebi arian,<br />

demonebi ar arian, kudebi da rqebi<br />

ar aqvT, maTsaviT swyinT, stkivaT,<br />

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romelic ityvis, rom ruseTTan komunikaciis<br />

arxi ar unda gvqondes, magram ar SeiZleba<br />

ruseTTan molaparakebebSi Sesvla<br />

mokavSireebTan seriozuli konsultaciebis,<br />

saqarTvelos delegaciis mkveTrad<br />

gansazRvruli mandatis, mkafiod dasaxuli<br />

miznebis, transparentulobisa da obieqturi<br />

Suamavlebis, an damkvirveblebis gareSe~<br />

Rac, yovelTvis saqarTvelos<br />

interesebis sazianod Tanxmdebian<br />

xolme, sul sxva Sinaarsis<br />

dialogad SemogvasaRa.<br />

SesaZloa, bevrs axsovs kidec:<br />

roca es Sexvedrebi daiwyo,<br />

saqarTvelos xelisufleba, misi<br />

struqturebis warmomadgenlebi,<br />

Riad da garkveviT ambobdnen,<br />

rom am formatis Sexvedraze<br />

mxolod ekonomikuri da kulturuli<br />

Sinaarsis sakiTxebs<br />

ganixilaven.<br />

rogorc aRmoCnda, premieris<br />

specialuri warmomadgeneli<br />

ruseTTan urTierTobis sakiTxebSi<br />

sulac ar gaCenila haeridan<br />

da arc zurab abaSiZea is persona,<br />

romelsac ruseTTan kulturul-ekonomikur<br />

urTier-<br />

Tobebze sasaubrod gauSveb _<br />

bolos da bolos, amisTvis ufro<br />

sxva tipis figuris SerCeva<br />

SeiZleboda da ara natoSi saqarTvelos<br />

yofili warmomadgenlis<br />

Zveli da myari kavSirebiT<br />

ruseTTan...<br />

Tavidanve gaCnda eWvi, romelsac<br />

saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />

da masTan afilirebuli pirebi<br />

konspirologiis Teoriad<br />

naTlavdnen: rom, sinamdvileSi,<br />

es formati Jenevis formatis<br />

alternativad iyo Cafiqrebuli<br />

da is TandaTanobiT Caanacvlebda<br />

Jenevis oTxmxriv Sexvedrebs.<br />

faqtobrivad, asec moxda<br />

da axla ukve ar arsebobs saki-<br />

Txi, romelsac abaSiZe-karasinis<br />

Sexvedraze ar ganixilaven,<br />

iqneba es aviafrenebis aRdgena,<br />

ruseTis mxridan savizo reJimis<br />

gamartivebaze saubari, gia<br />

cercvaZis gadacema-argadacemis<br />

sakiTxi Tu a. S.<br />

SesaZloa, bevrma ikiTxos kidec,<br />

_ ra Zalian didi sxvaobaa<br />

Jenevisa da praRis formatebs<br />

Soris, maSin roca JenevaSic da<br />

praRaSic ruseTi mxaredaa warmodgenili<br />

da Tu imas vambobT,<br />

rom saqarTvelos okupirebuli<br />

regionebis bedi, didwilad,<br />

ruseTis xelSia, ratomaa cudi<br />

masTan pirispir dialogi da<br />

sakiTxebis ganxilva?<br />

am SekiTxvaze pasuxis gasacemad<br />

jer gavixsenoT, ras warmoadgens<br />

Jenevis formati, rogorc<br />

molaparakebis forma: es<br />

aris evrokavSirisa da Cveni um-<br />

Tavresi strategiuli partnioris<br />

_ aSS-is monawileobiT gamarTuli<br />

Sexvedrebi, sadac Cveni<br />

pozicia aris ara mxolod Cveni,<br />

rogorc calke aRebuli saxelmwifos<br />

pozicia, aramed pozicia,<br />

romelsac mxars uWeren<br />

da iziareben swored evrokav-<br />

Siris qveynebi da aSS. swored<br />

imiTaa es formati mniSvnelovani,<br />

rom Cven aq ar varT mar-<br />

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citata sakmaod mkafio iyo da<br />

interpretaciis saSualebas,<br />

faqtobrivad, arc tovebda:<br />

„NATO-saqarTvelos Tanam-<br />

Sromloba ar aris mimarTuli<br />

im miznisken, rom saqarTvelo-<br />

Si NATO-s samxedro infrastruqtura<br />

ganTavsdes. aseTi gegma<br />

bunebaSi ar arsebobs da briuselSi,<br />

moskovsa da TbilsSic<br />

kargad ician, rom dRes da xval<br />

saqarTvelos NATO-Si gawevrianeba<br />

dRis wesrigSi ar dgas”.<br />

drom zurab abaSiZis am poziciasac<br />

civi wyali gadaasxa _<br />

dRes ukve aqtiuri saubaria ara<br />

mxolod natos saswavlo centris<br />

Seqmnaze, aramed saqarTveloSi<br />

natos samxedro bazis ganTavsebazec.<br />

Tumca sakiTxavia,<br />

ramdenadaa mzad amisTvis xelianu<br />

`Cadebuli~ formati<br />

nxmda xelisufleba, rom praRasa<br />

da JenevaSic ruseTs karasini<br />

warmoadgens da saqarTvelos<br />

erTi delegacia hyavs praRaSi<br />

da meore _ JenevaSi?<br />

arc erTi WkuaTmyofeli ar<br />

aris saqarTveloSi, vinc ityvis,<br />

rom saqarTvelo ruseTTan<br />

raime formatSi diplomatiuri<br />

arxebiT kontaqtebs ar unda axorcielebdes.<br />

SegaxsenebT: ruseTTan<br />

molaparakebebs vawarmoebdiT<br />

larsi-yazbegis sasaz-<br />

Rvro-sabaJo gamSvebi punqtis<br />

gaxsnaze, aviafrenis aRdgenasa<br />

da ruseTis msoflio savaWro<br />

organizaciaSi gawevrianebaze.<br />

samive procesi warmatebiT dasrulda.<br />

„iveriis” rigebSi ar<br />

aris adamiani, romelic ityvis,<br />

rom ruseTTan komunikaciis arxi<br />

ar unda gvqondes, magram ar<br />

SeiZleba ruseTTan molaparakebebSi<br />

Sesvla mokavSireebTan seriozuli<br />

konsultaciebis, saqarTvelos<br />

delegaciis mkveTrad<br />

gansazRvruli mandatis,<br />

mkafiod dasaxuli miznebis,<br />

transparentulobisa da obieqturi<br />

Suamavlebis, an damkvirveblebis<br />

gareSe.<br />

aravin icis, praRaSi, sinamdvileSi,<br />

ra xdeba. karasini ambobs,<br />

rom saqarTvelos rkinigzis<br />

afxazeTis monakveTis aRdgenis<br />

sakiTxi ganixiles; batoni<br />

abaSiZe ki amtkicebs, rom am<br />

Temaze erTi sityvac ar Tqmula.<br />

ra STabeWdilebas axdenen<br />

„xelisuflebis” despanebi am<br />

qaosiT saqarTvelos moqalaqeebze,<br />

an mokavSireebze?<br />

rogor warmogvidgenia, aSSs<br />

an evrokavSiris diplomatia<br />

TbilisSi ifrens periodulad<br />

da gvetyvis, gaiRviZeT, naxeT,<br />

ra xdebao?! xom ganucxada xelisuflebam<br />

mokavSireebs, rom<br />

recepti aqvs ruseTTan urTierTobebis<br />

dasalageblad? pasuxad<br />

miviReT, _ Zalian kargi,<br />

maSin gaagrZeleT, Tqven TviTon<br />

mixedeT Tqvens problemebs.<br />

gviTxres da amis Semdeg marto<br />

davrCiT pirispir ruseT-<br />

Tan, Sedegad ki ruseTs hokeis<br />

veTamaSebiT, oRond, msajis gareSe.<br />

aseTi gauazrebeli, absurduli<br />

sagareo politika saqarTvelos<br />

arasodes hqonia”, _<br />

acxadebs grigol vaSaZe.<br />

aRsaniSnavia isic, rom TiTqosda<br />

xil-bostneulsa da kulturul<br />

urTierTobebze gaTvlili<br />

Sexvedrebis dawyebidan<br />

cota xanSi zurab abaSiZem pirdapir<br />

daiwyo iseTi gancxadebebis<br />

gakeTeba, rac saqarTvelos<br />

momavals, mis sagareo kurss,<br />

prioritetebs ukavSirdeba.<br />

man, arc meti, arc naklebi,<br />

isic ki Tqva, rom uaxloes perspeqtivaSi<br />

saqarTvelos natos<br />

wevrebs Soris ver xedavs. mogvianebiT,<br />

mas Tavisi sityvebis<br />

ganmarteba mouxda, rogorc es<br />

biZina ivaniSvils sCvevia xolme,<br />

roca raRac wamoscdeba da mere<br />

ganmartavs, ase ki ara, ase<br />

vTqvio. arada, zurab abaSiZis<br />

`bolo Sexvedrebidan yvelaze naTlad<br />

mainc ori faqti dagvamaxsovrda:<br />

zurab abaSiZis umweo gancxadebebi<br />

karasinis pasuxad, rom gia cercvaZe<br />

kriminalia da misi aseve umweobis<br />

gamomxatveli replika, - Cven Cvens<br />

moqalaqeebs sxva qveynebs ar gadavcemT<br />

da Tu maincdamainc amis gadaxedva<br />

undaT, amisTvis sxva formatebi<br />

arsebobso. anu, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />

premier-ministris (faqtobrivad ki<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis) piradma<br />

warmomadgenelma piradad da pirdapir<br />

ganacxada, - esec SegviZlia SevcvaloT,<br />

magram sxva formatis Sexvedrazeo...~<br />

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gia cercvaZe<br />

sufleba? aqvs Tu ara mas amis-<br />

Tvis mkveTrad gamoxatuli politikuri<br />

neba? Tu gavixsenebT,<br />

rom abaSiZe-karasinis bolodroindel<br />

Sexvedrebze afxazeTis<br />

gavliT rkinigzis gaxsnis Temam<br />

wamoiwia, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />

Sansi mcirea, radgan naklebad<br />

savaraudoa, natom samxedro<br />

bazis ganTavseba moindomos<br />

qveyanaSi, romelic sakuTar teritorias<br />

satranzito derefnad<br />

uTmobs mtrulad ganwyobil<br />

qveyanas ara savaWro da ekonomikuri<br />

TvalsazrisiT, aramed<br />

swored samxedro daniSnulebiT:<br />

partniori qveynebi swored<br />

ase aRiqvamen rkinigzis SesaZlo<br />

gaxsnaze saubris dawyebas, rac<br />

ruseTs saSualebas miscems,<br />

umokles droSi hqondes derefani<br />

somxeTSi, giumrSi ganTavsebul<br />

rusul bazasTan, romelic<br />

ara marto somxeTze, sruliad<br />

kavkasiaze kontrolisTvisaa<br />

gaTvaliswinebuli.<br />

abaSiZe-karasinis Sexvedrebis<br />

usargeblobaze eqspertebic<br />

amaxvileben yuradRebas. magaliTad,<br />

lado CalaTaSvili ambobs,<br />

rom mTel im periodze,<br />

roca aRniSnuli formatiT Sexvedrebi<br />

mimdinareobda da problema<br />

adgilidan ar iZroda,<br />

vinme unda iyos pasuxismgebeli:<br />

„abaSiZe-karasinis formatis<br />

Seqmnis ideis gaCenisTanave kompetenturi<br />

adamianebis mxridan<br />

gamoiTqva mosazreba, rom aRniSnuli<br />

Sexvedrebi saqarTvelosTvis<br />

safrTxeebis Semcveli<br />

iyo, radgan erTi erTze vrCebodiT<br />

Cvenze gacilebiT Zlier<br />

mtrul saxelmwifosTan da<br />

gansazRvruli ar iyo, ra sakiTxebis<br />

garSemo iwarmoebda dialogi,<br />

anu Cveni iniciativiT SevdiodiT<br />

xafangSi, saidanac mni-<br />

Svnelovani danakargebis gareSe<br />

gamosvla advili ar iqneboda.<br />

mTavrobis faqtobrivi da<br />

iuridiuli xlmZRvanelebis<br />

mxridan ori wlis manZilze ismoda,<br />

rom ruseTTan pirdapiri<br />

dialogi mxolod savaWroekonomikur<br />

sakiTxebs moicavda.<br />

da es maSin, rodesac ruseTi<br />

Riad alaparakda jer saqarTvelos<br />

rkinigzis afxazeTis monakveTis<br />

aRdgena-gaxsnaze, Semdeg<br />

saqarTvelos teritoriis gavliT<br />

ruseT-iranis damakavSirebeli<br />

avareT-kaxeTis gzis mSeneblobaze,<br />

dabolos „ruseTis<br />

federaciasa da afxazeTs Soris<br />

mokavSireobisa da integraciis<br />

Sesaxeb” „xelSekrulebis”<br />

gaformebaze. es ukanaskneli ki<br />

calsaxad saqarTvelos avtonomiuri<br />

regionis, afxazeTis, ruseTis<br />

mxridan aneqsias niSnavs.<br />

abaSiZe-karasinis bolo Sexvedris<br />

Semdeg rusul-qarTuli<br />

urTierTobebis damlageblebmac<br />

ki ver damales, rom mzaddeba<br />

ruseTis mier saqarTvelos<br />

suverenuli teritoriis, afxazeTis,<br />

aneqsia. bunebrivad ismis<br />

kiTxva, _ vin aris pasuxismgebeli<br />

dakargul periodze?<br />

diplomatiur pasiurobaze? sagareo-politikur<br />

idiotizmze<br />

Tu mizanmimarTul mavneblobaze?<br />

megobari qveynebis gacurebaze,<br />

rom saqarTvelo TavisiT<br />

„alagebs urTierTobebs” moskovTan?<br />

tyuilze, rom nato da<br />

evraziuli kavSiri Tavsebadia?<br />

nebismier saxelmwifoSi pasuxismgebloba<br />

ekisreba mTavrobas,<br />

ganurCevlad imisa, saxelmwifo<br />

interesebis ziani sibriyviT<br />

moxda Tu RalatiT. ziani miyenebulia,<br />

Sedegi damdgaria.<br />

ruseT-saqarTvelos am dialogis<br />

dasruleba afxazeTis<br />

regionis savaraudo mitacebiT<br />

da yofili premier-ministris<br />

gancxadeba afxazTa „TviTgamorkvevaze”,<br />

agreTve, avareT-kaxeTis<br />

gzis mSeneblobaze mTavrobis<br />

dumili, Tu evropis sabWos<br />

saparlamento asambleis uprecendentod<br />

kritikuli rezolucia<br />

da sxva, erTaderT daskvnas<br />

badebs _ saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobis sagareo politika<br />

damarcxda, saqarTvelos sasicocxlo<br />

interesebs mZime zarali<br />

miadga”, _ ambobs lado CalaTaSvili,<br />

romelic wlebia,<br />

ruseT-saqarTvelos urTier-<br />

Tobis Tematikaze muSaobs da,<br />

amave dros, sxvadasxva region-<br />

Si, maT Soris, ukrainaSi ruse-<br />

Tis mier gamovlenil agresias<br />

akvirdeba.<br />

lado CalaTaSvili erTader-<br />

Ti ar aris, vinc afxazeTis gavliT<br />

rkinigzis aRdgenaSi safr-<br />

Txes xedavs. amave dros, saocaria,<br />

ratom dumdnen da dRemde<br />

duman saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi,<br />

roca somxeTSi ukve<br />

Riad akeTeben komentarebs rkinigzis<br />

aRdgenasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

da es axla ki ara, ori wlis<br />

winaT daiwyes, roca pirvelad<br />

gaiJRera rkinigzis SesaZlo<br />

gaxsnis Sesaxeb versiam.<br />

magaliTad, somxeTis ekonomkis<br />

ministr karen CSmaritianis<br />

gancxadebiT, afxazeTis rkinigzis<br />

sakiTxi, somxeTis evraziul<br />

ekonomikur kavSirSi gawevrianebis<br />

paralelurad, aqtualuri<br />

gaxda da misive mtkicebiT,<br />

es sakiTxi ganixileba:<br />

„afxazeTis rkinigzis amuSavebis<br />

sakiTxi _ somxeTsa da evraziul<br />

ekonomikur kavSirs Soris<br />

saerTo sazRvris sakiTxi,<br />

ganixileba. diax, sakiTxi ganixileba<br />

da Cven momxreni varT”, _<br />

Tqva man da dasZina, rom somxeTis<br />

evraziul kavSirSi gawevrianebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, rkinigzis am<br />

mimarTulebis gaxsniT, daintereseba<br />

gaizarda somxeTis mxridanac<br />

da ruseTis mxridanac...<br />

ufro Sors wavida somxeTis<br />

politologTa kavSiris Tavmjdomare,<br />

amaiak ovanesiani, romelmac<br />

Tqva, rom es sakiTxi ar<br />

aris ganpirobebuli mxolod<br />

somxeTis gawevrianebiT evraziul<br />

ekonomikur kavSirSi da is<br />

Sedis rogorc afxazebis, aseve<br />

rusebisa da qarTvelebis interesebSi.<br />

ovanesiani acxadebs,<br />

rom rkinigzis gaxsnisTvis saWiro<br />

iqneba investiciebi, radgan<br />

infrastruqtura mTlianad ganadgurebulia<br />

da darwmunebulia,<br />

rom ruseTi SeZlebs am investiciebis<br />

mozidvas. misi azriT,<br />

aRniSnuli rkinigzis monakveTis<br />

gaxsnas aseve didi mniSvneloba<br />

aqvs regionSi ruseTis<br />

samxedro-politikuri gavlenis<br />

SenarCunebisTvis da am faqtorebs<br />

damatebuli somxeTis<br />

wevroba evraziul ekonomikur<br />

kavSirSi valdebuls xdis ruseTs,<br />

„gamonaxos saSualebebi”,<br />

amitomac somxeTSi mTavar politologs<br />

miaCnia, rom afxaze-<br />

Tis rkinigzis monakveTis gaxsna<br />

dRes SesaZlebelia, Tu ruse-<br />

Ti amas moindomebs...<br />

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kaci, romelic<br />

amerikaSi Catarebuli saprezi-<br />

demna veSapiZe<br />

dento arCevnebis Semdeg msoflio<br />

orad gaiyo _ amerikis 45-e prezi-<br />

dentis, donald trampis momxreebad da mowinaaRmdegeebad.<br />

gaiyvnen ara mxolod politikosebi, aramed gaiyo sazogadoeba.<br />

gaiyvnen biznesmenebi, msaxiobebi, Jurnalistebi. gaiyo yvela,<br />

radgan naTlad dainaxa, rom is, rasac SeCveuli iyo, Tvalsa da<br />

xels Sua icvleba, ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, ingreva.<br />

udavoa, trampis inauguracia<br />

ara mxolod msoflio sazogadoebas,<br />

aramed kacobriobis politikuri<br />

ganviTarebis periodsac<br />

orad gahyofs _ trampamde da<br />

trampis Semdgom periodebad.<br />

trampamde iyo „istebliSmentis<br />

hegemonia”, anu politikuri elita,<br />

romelsac okupirebuli hqonda<br />

marTvis ufleba da miTvisebu-<br />

ZiliT eZina. esaa, ZiriTadad, konservatiuli,<br />

TeTri amerika, romelmac<br />

vera da ver miiRo es Tavsmoxveuli<br />

liberalizmi, magram<br />

imis Zalac ar Seswevda, misTvis<br />

rame seriozuli daepirispirebina,<br />

radgan sistemam is bevrjer daaduma.<br />

rogorc ki xma amoiRo da<br />

Tqva, me tradiciulad minda vicxovro<br />

da tradiciuli ojaxi min-<br />

identobis kandidati, romelsac<br />

aravis vali ar aqvs. mas ar aqvs<br />

maTi vali, vinc tradiculad afinansebda<br />

amerikeli prezidentebis<br />

saarCevno kampanias da Semdgom<br />

iTxovda Tavis wils qveynis Crdilovan<br />

marTvaSi. magaliTad, sorosis<br />

msgavsi filantropebi, sxvadasxva<br />

bizneskorporaciis lobistebi,<br />

sxvadasxva eTnikuri<br />

jgufis lobistebi da a. S. trampma<br />

Tavisi saarCevno kampania Tavad<br />

daafinansa, amitomac dRes aravis<br />

vali ar aqvs. es ki mas moqmedebis<br />

srul Tavisuflebas aZlevs. aman<br />

rigiT amomrCevelSi rwmena gaaCina,<br />

rom es kaci Tavis dapirebebs<br />

Seasrulebs, radgan xelis SemSleli<br />

aravin hyavs.<br />

amas garda, trampma yvelasTvis<br />

sebs StatebSi keravdnen. CineTSi<br />

ki isini aRar waiyvanes, Sedegad aT<br />

milionamde amerikeli umuSevari<br />

darCa. Semosavlis gareSe darCa<br />

aTi milioni amerikuli ojaxi.<br />

esec ukmayofilo 30 milioni<br />

amomrCeveli, romelsac, uecrad,<br />

maTTvis gasageb enaze uTxres,<br />

rom uSvelidnen. trampi maT dahpirda,<br />

rom yvela sawarmos amerikaSi<br />

daabrunebs, xolo vinc amas ar<br />

izams, maT produqcias damatebi-<br />

Ti gadasaxadebiT dabegravs, Sedegad<br />

ki iafi muSaxeliT miRebuli<br />

SeRavaTi azrs dakargavs. faqtia,<br />

rom am dapirebebma imuSava.<br />

imuSava amomrCevelzec da imuSava<br />

praqtikaSic. Sedegi ukve gamoCnda<br />

_ amerikuli multinacionaluri<br />

korporacia „fordi” Ta-<br />

TobiT, ganxorcieldeba. magaliTisTvis<br />

_ kedeli meqsikasTan. aSS-<br />

Si yvelam icis, rom maT qveyanaSi<br />

aralegalebisa da kriminalis yvelaze<br />

didi nakadi, narkotikebis<br />

yvelaze didi partiebi, swored<br />

meqsikidan Sedis. 3000-kilometriani<br />

sazRvris gakontroleba ki ise,<br />

rom iq veraferi da araferi SemoZvres,<br />

praqtikulad, SeuZlebelia.<br />

amitom gadawyvita, aaSenos<br />

kedeli, romelzec veravin gadmoZvreba.<br />

liberalebma ki maSinve<br />

moZebnes analogi, _ „berlinis<br />

kedeli”. ideaSi, orive kedelia,<br />

magram sruliad sxvadasxva rames<br />

hyofs. berlinis kedelma erTi<br />

saxelmwifo da erTi eri gahyo<br />

orad, trampis kedeli ki arafers<br />

hyofs. Tu maincdamainc gayofa-<br />

li hqonda kacobriobis mTavari<br />

ideologis statusi. amerikuli<br />

politelitis ideologia ki, ukve<br />

naxevar saukuneze meti, liberalizmia.<br />

liberalizmi yvelgan da<br />

yvelaferSi. liberalizmi Tavisuflebis<br />

saxeliT. liberalizmi rwmenis<br />

nacvlad. liberalizmi, rogorc<br />

cxovrebis wesi. mravali wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi amerikis saxelmwifo<br />

departamentma es ideologia mTavar<br />

saeqsporto produqtad aqcia.<br />

Znelad Tu vinme warmoidgenda,<br />

rom es sistema, odesRac, aRar<br />

imuSavebda da damarcxdeboda, magram<br />

arasodes ar unda Tqva „arasodes”.<br />

pirveli, rac trampma SeZlo,<br />

isaa, rom ipova da rac mTavaria,<br />

gaaRviZa is amerika, romelsac aTwleulebia,<br />

(daaxloebiT, meore<br />

msoflio omis Semdeg) saRaTas<br />

20<br />

da mqondeso, maSinve homofobi da<br />

kacTmoZule uwodes, mediis meSveobiT<br />

samarcxvino boZze gaakres,<br />

daamcires da daiWires kidec.<br />

amitomac dadumda naxevari amerika<br />

da nel-nela miiZina kidec. ai,<br />

swored es miZinebuli amerika<br />

gaaRviZa trampma.<br />

maRviZaras funqcia trampis<br />

mier, si-en-en-is eTerSi, winasaar-<br />

Cevnod, naTqvamma frazam Seasrula:<br />

„me tradiciuli qorwinebis<br />

momxre var, rodesac qorwinebaSi<br />

qali da mamakaci imyofebian”. es<br />

iyo mexi amerikuli liberalizmis<br />

mowmendil caze. uceb, yvelam<br />

dainaxa, rom, Turme, aseTi rameebis<br />

laparaki SeiZleba da Tan Zalian<br />

maRali tribunidanac. mniSvnelovani<br />

aRmoCnda is, rom am<br />

uryevi liberaluri Rirebulebebis<br />

winaaRmdeg ilaSqrebs prez-<br />

gasageb enaze axsna, Tu rogor<br />

apirebs milionobiT samuSao adgilis<br />

Seqmnas. 80-iani wlebis bolodan,<br />

iafi muSaxelis ZebnaSi, aTasobiT<br />

amerikuli sawarmo meqsika-<br />

Si, CineTSi, indoneziasa da a. S.<br />

gadabargda. Sedegad, korporaciebma<br />

Tavisi kapitali gaaasmages. ra<br />

Tqma unda, igive produqcias amzadeben<br />

da igive fasad yidian, oRond<br />

aTjer iafi muSaxeliT, anu<br />

naklebi danaxarjiT. bednieri iyo<br />

yvela, amerikeli milionerebi,<br />

romlebic miliarderebi gaxdnen<br />

da mSieri CineTic, romelmac saocari<br />

ekonomikuri aRmasvla daiwyo.<br />

milionobiT Tavis moqalaqe<br />

daasaqma da trilionobiT dolari<br />

Tavis ekonomikaSi moizida.<br />

vin dazaralda?.. vin da rigi-<br />

Ti amerikeli, romelic am sawarmoebSi<br />

muSaobda, sanam isini jin-<br />

vis gegmebs cvlis da meqsikaSi<br />

sawarmos aRar aaSenebs. kompania<br />

700 milion aSS dolaris investicias,<br />

meqsikis nacvlad, SeerTebul<br />

StatebSi, kerZod ki miCigan-<br />

Si Cadebs da amiT amerikaSi 700<br />

axal samuSao adgils Seqmnis.<br />

dapirebebis Sesruleba, saer-<br />

Tod, calke Temaa. faqtia, rom<br />

trampma yvela Tavisi dapirebis<br />

Sesruleba inauguraciis dResve<br />

daiwyo, rac, Tavis mxriv, seriozuli<br />

siaxlea. amerikelebs aseTi<br />

operatiuloba franklin ruzveltis<br />

Semdeg ar axsovT, roca<br />

didi depresiis dasaZlevi kanoni<br />

ruzveltma sazogadoebas inauguraciidan<br />

meeqvse dRes warudgina.<br />

erTi Tvec ar gasula trampis<br />

gaprezidentebidan da ukve aravis<br />

epareba eWvi, rom misi yvelaze „gi-<br />

Juri” dapirebebic ki, didi alba-<br />

zea saqme, aSS-sa da meqsikas saxelmwifo<br />

sazRvari hyofs, kedels<br />

ki am sazRvris dacvis funqcia<br />

ekisreba da aranairi politikuri<br />

datvirtva mas ar gaaCnia, gansxvavebiT<br />

berlinis, an, Tundac, israel-palestinis<br />

gamyofi kedlisgan.<br />

aq is ufro mniSvnelovania,<br />

vin gamoyofs fuls amxela infrastruqturuli<br />

proeqtisTvis<br />

da ramdeni aTasi adamiani dasaqmdeba<br />

3141-kilometriani kedlis<br />

mSeneblobaze.<br />

ase rom, kedelTan dakavSirebiT<br />

atexili aJiotaJi isev konservatiuli<br />

da liberaluri msoflios<br />

dapirispirebis konteqst-<br />

Si unda ganvixiloT, iseve rogorc<br />

trampis mier, migrantebTan<br />

dakavSirebuli gankargulebebi.<br />

axali xom araferi momxdara. ukontrolo<br />

migraciis winaaRmdeg<br />

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msoflios cvlis<br />

ibrZoda barak obamac. mis dros<br />

yvelaze meti aralegali gamoaZeves<br />

amerikidan. Tumca maSin,<br />

amis gamo, msoflio liberalizmi<br />

krunCxvebSi ar Cavardnila, imitom<br />

rom es yvelaferi amerikis memarcxene-liberaluri,<br />

demokratiuli<br />

partiis lideris xeliT<br />

keTdeboda, amitomac dasaSvebi<br />

iyo. trampma ki, rac ar unda Tqvas,<br />

yvelaferi miuRebelia, da ara<br />

imitom, rom yvelafers cuds da<br />

miuRebels ambobs, aramed imitom,<br />

rom misi memarjvene konservatizmia<br />

miuRebeli.<br />

Tumca aravin ifiqros, rom<br />

brZola mxolod ideologiur<br />

doneze mimdinareobs. brZola, upirveles<br />

yovlisa, mimdinareobs<br />

dafinansebis SesanarCuneblad.<br />

aSS-s saxelmwifo departamenti<br />

yovelwliurad acxadebda prioritetul<br />

mimarTulebebs, romelTa<br />

dafinansebazec, sxvadasxva donori<br />

organizaciis meSveobiT,<br />

mTeli msoflios masStabiT, miliardobiT<br />

dolari nawildeboda.<br />

magaliTisTvis 2012 wlamde aseT<br />

prioritets warmoadgena genderuli<br />

Temebi. Sesabamisad, mTeli<br />

msoflios samoqalaqo seqtori<br />

genderuli TematikiT dakavda da,<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi, uTo rom<br />

CagerTo, iqidanac qalTa emansipaciebis<br />

sakiTxebze saubari ismoda.<br />

2012 wlidan genderi seqsualurma<br />

umciresobebma Caanacvla<br />

da amitomacaa, rom mexuTe welia,<br />

yvela arasamTavrobo organizacia,<br />

rogorc saqarTveloSi, ise<br />

mTel msoflioSi, LGBT Temas<br />

icavs. xuTi wlis winaT es Tema<br />

aravis axsovda, radgan am TemiT<br />

fuli ar iSoveboda. amas hqvia<br />

liberalizmis agresiuli eqsporti<br />

mTel msoflioSi. esaa yvelaze<br />

Zlieri amerikuli iaraRi. is gacilebiT<br />

efeqtiania, vidre romelime<br />

birTvuli qobini.<br />

da uceb, TeTr saxlSi modis<br />

kaci, romelic ambobs, rom amerika<br />

aravis aRar moaxvevs Tavs sakuTari<br />

cxovrebis wess, arc liberalurs<br />

da arc konservatiuls.<br />

anu aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

awyobil dafinansebis sistemas,<br />

ubralod, gamorTavs. axla xom<br />

gasagebia, ratom aWyivlda mSieri<br />

goWiviT msoflio samoqalaqo seqtori...<br />

amitomac araviTari mniSvneloba<br />

ar aqvs imas, ra Temaze<br />

daupirispirdebian tramps, mTavaria,<br />

misi diskreditacia. iqneb,<br />

rogorme gadadgoma aiZulon.<br />

iqneb, rogorme Zveli sistema<br />

gadaarCinon.<br />

gansakuTrebul interess iwvevs<br />

trampis survili, damegobrdes<br />

ruseTTan. es, albaT, misi<br />

dapirebebis yvelaze rTulad Sesasrulebeli<br />

nawilia. msoflios<br />

bevrjer unaxavs vaSingtonisa da<br />

moskovis Serigebis mcdelobebi.<br />

ruzveltidan moyolebuli amas<br />

cdilobda yvela. ruzvelti _<br />

stalinTan, kenedi da niqsoni _<br />

xruSCovTan, fordi da jonsoni _<br />

breJnevTan da a. S. urTierTobebis<br />

gadatvirTvis sul bolo mcdeloba<br />

ki obamas hqonda putinTan,<br />

magram uSedegod. araferi mag<br />

saqmidan, saboloo jamSi, ar gamodis,<br />

radgan es ori saxelmwifo<br />

mxolod urTierTdapirispirebisa<br />

da konkurenciis pirobebSi axerxebs<br />

ganviTarebas. didxans Caxuteba<br />

maT jer arasdros gamosvliaT.<br />

Zalian sainteresoa, gamouvaT<br />

Tu ara amjerad?..<br />

Tumca, Tu am ori giganti saxelmwifos<br />

urTierTobis istorias<br />

gadavxedavT, davinaxavT, rom yvelaze<br />

efeqtianad da didi xniT<br />

TanamSromloba maT maSin SeZles,<br />

roca meore msoflio omis dros<br />

saerTo mteri gamouCndaT. es iyo<br />

erTaderTi SemTxveva, roca rusebi<br />

da amerikelebi, realurad,<br />

mokavSireebi iyvnen (da isic qar-<br />

Tvelis damsaxurebiT:)))...).<br />

ruseTTan saTanamSromlod<br />

trampi analogiur winapirobebs<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

eZebs. Tu maSin iyo nacisturi<br />

germania da faSizmi, ratom ar<br />

gamodgeba dRes saerTo mtrad islamuri<br />

saxelmwifo da terorizmi?..<br />

miT umetes, rom trampma<br />

erTi kviris win, samxedroebTan<br />

Sexvedrisas, praqtikulad, jvarosnuli<br />

omi gamoucxada islamur<br />

saxelmwifos. terorizmis winaaRmdeg<br />

brZolas trampi RvTisgan<br />

dalocvil saqmes uwodebs da miznis<br />

misaRwevad ukiduresad radikalur<br />

zomebsac amarTlebs. magaliTad<br />

iseTs, rogoricaa teroristebis<br />

wyliT wameba.<br />

arada, erTi SexedviT, sad amerika<br />

da sad islamuri saxelmwifosgan<br />

momdinare safrTxe?.. am<br />

teroristuli saxelmwifos SeqmniT<br />

obamas administraciam Seqmna<br />

magniti, romelmac mTeli msofliodan<br />

miizida terorizmiT moxibluli,<br />

gaxurebuli Tavebi. amiT<br />

problema, amerikidan Zalian Sors<br />

_ siriasa da eraySi gadaitanes.<br />

TiTqosda ra unda iyos amaze<br />

komfortuli mdgomareoba qveynisTvis,<br />

romelic terorizmis<br />

mTavari samiznea bolo 16 weliwadi.<br />

xolo is, rom amerikelebi erayis<br />

xelisuflebas islamur saxelmwifosTan<br />

brZolaSi exmarebian,<br />

alibis Seqmnis mcelobaa im<br />

braldebis sawinaaRmdegod, rom<br />

es teroristuli organizacia obamas<br />

administraciam hilari klintonis<br />

saxelmwifo departamentis<br />

Tavmjdomareobis dros Seqmna.<br />

rogoradac ar unda iyos, faqtia,<br />

rom trampi obamas dalagebul<br />

saerTaSoriso politikaSi<br />

aSkarad ver grZnobs Tavs komfortulad<br />

da erTi suli aqvs,<br />

ise aCeCos iq yvelaferi, rogorc<br />

misi qoCori aCeCa iumoristuli<br />

Sous wamyvanma.<br />

tramps, islamur saxelmwifos-<br />

Tan aseTi gaafTrebuli dapirispirebiT,<br />

ufro politikuri miznebis<br />

miRweva surs. pirvel rigSi,<br />

man Tavis amomrCevels unda daanaxvos,<br />

rom is gaanadgurebs im danaSaulebriv<br />

organizacias, romelic<br />

misma politikurma mowinaaRmdegeebma<br />

Seqmnes. amas garda, amerikul<br />

armias, didi xania, albaT,<br />

bin ladenis likvidaciis mere, raime<br />

mniSvnelovani samxedro gamarjveba<br />

ar uzeimia. es ki, rusebis<br />

mier alepos aRebis Semdeg, gansakuTrebulad<br />

damamcirebelia.<br />

msoflios mTavarma policielma,<br />

drodadro, Tavisi statusi unda<br />

ganaaxlos xolme. yovelive es<br />

rusebTan, droebiT mainc, damegobrebas<br />

Tu Seuwyobs xels, xom mTlad<br />

kargi. Tumca rusul-amerikuli<br />

megobroba arc meore msoflio<br />

omSi yofila siamtkbilobaze<br />

awyobili. maTi mokavSireoba<br />

iZulebiTi rom iyo, SeuiaraRebeli<br />

TvaliTac Canda. Tu trampma<br />

da putinma, raRac formiT, terorizmis<br />

winaaRmdeg gaerTianeba<br />

SeZles, bednier da didi xniT daZmakacebas<br />

es mainc ar gamoiwvevs.<br />

Tumca am droebiTi Caxutebis mi-<br />

Rwevac sakmaod rTuli iqneba, Tundac<br />

igive iranis faqtoris gamo.<br />

trampi irans Riad emuqreba, Tan<br />

ara mxolod sanqciebis aRdgeniT.<br />

iranis ukan ki ruseTi dgas, romelc<br />

dRe dReze axali, grandiozuli<br />

energoproeqtebis wamowyebas<br />

gegmavs Tavis Zvel partnior-<br />

Tan. iranma ki, amasobaSi, ori balistikuri<br />

raketa gamoscada da israelis<br />

winaaRmdeg agresiuli ritorika<br />

ganaaxla.<br />

mokled, msoflio trampa-cumpis<br />

fonze geopolitikuri Zvrebis<br />

molodini didia. samwuxarod,<br />

am gadanawilebidan ar Cans, rom<br />

saqarTvelom tortis patara naWeri<br />

mainc SeiZleba miiRos. Tu<br />

rusul-amerikul urTierTobaSi<br />

araferi Seicvala, arc CvenTvis<br />

Seicvleba rame da dRevandeli<br />

Cveni xelisuflebis sruliad<br />

gaugebari sagareo politikiT is-<br />

ev am qaosSi viqnebiT _ roca veravin<br />

gamCnevs da veravin gxedavs,<br />

imitom rom Cven TviTon ar gvsurs,<br />

msoflio politikur procesSi<br />

CaverToT. da amas qveynis<br />

araformaluri mmarTvelis brZnuli<br />

dabalansebis politikas vuwodebT.<br />

amerikisa da ruseTis, Tundac,<br />

droebiTi damegobrebis SemTxvevaSi<br />

xom saerTod aRaravis gavaxsendebiT.<br />

aseTi geopolitikuri<br />

damegobreba aucileblad gulisxmobs<br />

xolme erTmaneTis gavlenis<br />

sferoebSi Caurevlobas. da, ratomRac,<br />

eWvi maqvs, saqarTvelo,<br />

aseT SemTxvevaSi, amerikuli gavlenis<br />

sferoSi ar moxvdeba.<br />

e. i. erTaderTi, ris imedzec<br />

saqarTvelos sagareo politika<br />

aris damokidebuli, is gaxlavT,<br />

rom amerikisa da ruseTis urTierTobebi<br />

kidev ufro gauaresdes,<br />

rom patara, Crdiloeli mezoblisgan<br />

daCagruli saqarTvelosTvis<br />

SeSfoTeba da aRSfoTeba<br />

isev saWiro gaxdes. es aris da<br />

es Cveni xeiric da Cveni saerTaSoriso<br />

pozicionirebac.<br />

Zalian mniSvnelovania trampis<br />

gancxadebebi natosTan dakavSirebiT.<br />

amerikis prezidenti Sanss ar<br />

uSvebs xelidan, evropelebs Seaxsenos,<br />

rom usafrTxoebisTvis fulia<br />

gadasaxdeli. da rom amerika<br />

aRar apirebs yvelas magivrad<br />

Crdiloatlantikuri aliansis<br />

Senaxvas. amas trampma isic daumata,<br />

rom 28 wevrisgan Semdgari<br />

bloki moZvelda. trampis TqmiT,<br />

maT an unda gadaixadon Zveli valebi,<br />

an nato unda datovon: „Tuki<br />

es natos daSlis, is daSlis natos”.<br />

kidev ufro gasaocari aRmoCnda<br />

evropelebis reaqcia trampis<br />

am gancxadebaze. evropelebi, rogrc<br />

Cans, imdenad SeeCvivnen sxvis<br />

xarjze cxovrebas, rom trampis<br />

sityvebi natos erToblivi dafinansebis<br />

aucileblobaze Seuracxyofadac<br />

ki miiRes. da imis magivrad,<br />

rom sakuTari usafrTxoebisTvis<br />

jibeze xeli gaekraT, merkelma<br />

da olandma evropis damoukidebeli<br />

armiis Seqmnaze daiwyes<br />

saubari. ase Tu gagrZelda, nato<br />

saqarTvelosTvis da ukrainisTvis<br />

ki ara, usafrTxoebis qolgis<br />

funqcias evrokavSirisTvisac ve-<br />

Rar Seasrulebs. esec kidev erTi<br />

umniSvnelovanesi Tema, romelmac<br />

saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso gegmebze<br />

seriozuli gavlena SeiZleba<br />

iqonios.<br />

rogoradac ar unda ganviTardes<br />

msoflio geopolitika, faqtia,<br />

rom trampma saWe mkveTrad<br />

marjvniv gadaxara. faqtia isic,<br />

rom msoflio masStabis Savi piaric<br />

mas ver azaralebs. pirvelad<br />

xdeba ise, rom erTi adamianis winaaRmdeg<br />

mimarTuli msoflio mediasaSualebebi<br />

trampis tviteris<br />

postebTan yoveldRe marcxdebian,<br />

romlebsac ufro meti adamiani<br />

kiTxulobs da elodeba, vidre<br />

CNN-s, ABC-isa da NBC-is ereTad<br />

aRebuls.<br />

trampis siZliere mis martoobaSia.<br />

yvelas winaaRmdeg mebrZoli<br />

aSkarad ufro did mxardaWeras<br />

poulobs masebSi, vidre misi<br />

konkurentebi politelitidan.<br />

trampis koziri stereotipebis<br />

ngrevaa. man es icis da amitomac<br />

yoveldRe axal-axal stereotips<br />

angrevs.<br />

trampi dRes msoflioSi erTaderTi<br />

politikosia, romelsac<br />

SeuZlia Tqvas, rom gripis virusis<br />

sawinaaRmdego vaqcinacia yvelaze<br />

didi TaRliTobaa medicinis<br />

mTeli istoriis manZilze. da rom<br />

vaqcinacia uzarmazari fulis gakeTebis<br />

saSualebaa, is organizmis<br />

imunitets aqveiTebs da amis Sedegad<br />

adamianebi virusebis mimarT<br />

kidev ufro daucvelebi xdebian.<br />

sainteresoa, rom trampma es<br />

Tqva da misi es naTqvami mTelma<br />

msofliom gaigo. darwmunebuli<br />

var, uamravma eqimma misi es gamonaTqvami<br />

uamrav teleeTerSi „miwaSi<br />

Cado”, magram faqtia, rom ver<br />

gadafara. ver gadafara ki niSnavs,<br />

sainformacio omi waago.<br />

mxolod tramps SeuZlia Tqvas,<br />

rom sazogadoebrivi azris kvlevebi<br />

arasandoa da is mosaxleobis<br />

SecdomaSi Seyvanas ufro emsaxureba,<br />

vidre azris gamokiTxvas.<br />

amas planetaze uamravi adamiani<br />

ambobs, magram trampis naTqvami<br />

mTelma msofliom gaigo da<br />

msgavsi kvlevis sandoobasac jer<br />

arnaxuli dartyma miadga.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom trampi<br />

dRes yvelaze moTxovnadi adamiania<br />

msoflioSi, imavdroulad, is<br />

yvelaze saZulveli adamianicaa.<br />

Znelad mosaZebnia politikosi,<br />

romlis warumateblobac, erTdroulad,<br />

amden adamians unda.<br />

yvelas winaaRmdeg mebrZolis mantia<br />

trampisTvis rogorc warmatebis,<br />

ise katastrofis momtani<br />

SeiZleba aRmoCndes. Tumca nu vimkiTxavebT,<br />

umjobesia, Tvali mivadevnoT<br />

msoflio politikuri<br />

wesrigis elvisebur cvlilebebs,<br />

romelic breqsitiT daiwyo da<br />

trampiT grZeldeba. cvlilebebis<br />

sio evrokavSirs uaxlovdeba, sadac<br />

wels ramdenime umniSvnelovanesi<br />

arCevnebi eliT. gardamtexi<br />

iqneba Tu ara cvlilebebi, vnaxavT,<br />

magram rom iqneba, eWvi aravis<br />

epareba, radgan saWesTan amerikis<br />

istoriaSi yvelaze araordinaruli<br />

prezidenti, donald trampi<br />

zis.<br />

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parlamentis safinanso-sabiu-<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

jeto komiteti gasuli wlis noe-<br />

mberSi dakompleqtda da, rogorc<br />

mogexsenebaT, mis Tavmjdomared irakli kovzanaZe, moadgileebad<br />

ki paata kviJinaZe, irakli beraia da roman gociriZe dain-<br />

iSnnen. maT garda komitetSi kidev Svidi wevria (nika meliam<br />

ukve datova es komiteti).<br />

maTi ZiriTadi saqmianoba<br />

noemberSive daanonsda, roca<br />

komitetis Tavmjdomarem Tqva,<br />

rom samomavlod maTi dRis wesrigi<br />

Zalian datvirTuli iqneba<br />

arsebuli biujetis proeqtisa<br />

da sxva safinanso saqmianobidan<br />

gamomdinare.<br />

imuSaves da daamtkices 2017<br />

wlis biujeti (romelic calke<br />

ganxilvis Temaa). kovzanaZis<br />

TqmiT: „rac qveynisTvis Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovania, saqarTvelos<br />

fulad-sakredito politikaze<br />

muSaoba maTi komitetis prerogativa<br />

iqneboda, vinaidan<br />

swored es aris mTavari dokumenti<br />

saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />

bankisTvis. masSi potenciuri<br />

normebi ideba, romelic 2017<br />

wlisTvis mTavari dokumenti<br />

iqneboda centraluri bankisTvis.<br />

es aris safinanso-sabiujeto<br />

komitetis uaxlesi er-<br />

Ti Tvis dRis wesrigi”, _ daaanonsa<br />

maSin kovzanaZem.<br />

dRes biujeti ukve damtkicebulia,<br />

amitom „qronika+” dainteresda,<br />

Tu ras saqmianobs<br />

da ra etapzea axla safinansosabiujeto<br />

komitetis muSaoba,<br />

risi inicireba igegmeba da ras<br />

SeiZleba velodoT samomavlod?<br />

cnobilia, rom misi muSaoba<br />

unda moicavdes ara mxolod<br />

qveynis mTavar sabiujeto dokumentze<br />

muSaobasa da sakanonmdeblo<br />

saqmianobas, aramed komitetSi<br />

Sesul korespondenciebze<br />

muSaobasac, saxelmwifo<br />

biujetis Sesrulebaze monitorings,<br />

saerTaSoriso organizaciebTan<br />

TanamSromlobasa<br />

da maTTan erTad Catarebul<br />

RonisZiebebs.<br />

komitetis saqmianobis gegma-<br />

22<br />

paata kviJinaZe<br />

`mTavari sakiTxi, romelzedac komiteti<br />

uwyvetad apirebs muSaobas, aris komitetSi<br />

Semosuli kanonproeqtebis, saerTaSoriso<br />

xelSekrulebebisa da sakanonmdeblo<br />

winadadebebis ganxilva. Cveulebriv reJimSi<br />

vmuSaobT, aris kanonebi, romlebic am wuTSi<br />

muSavdeba, es aris saratifikacio, kanonebi,<br />

romlebzedac wamyvani komiteti varT, kanonebi,<br />

sadac savaldebulo komitets warmovadgenT.<br />

aseve vmuSaobT auditis samsaxurTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, Tu ra saxiT unda iyos<br />

warmodgenili maT mier momzadebuli masalebi<br />

da rogor SevqmnaT samuSao jgufi; rogor<br />

ufro maRal xarisxSi ava es samsaxuri<br />

safinanso-sabiujeto komitetTan. aseve gvaqvs<br />

urTierToba mTavrobasTan; sxvadasxva<br />

komisiaSi varT, sadac sapensio reforma<br />

muSavdeba, aseve aris fondebTan<br />

dakavSirebuli sakiTxebi da a. S. muSa<br />

procesia~<br />

Sia saxelmwifo biujetis Sesrulebis<br />

Sesaxeb yoveldRiuri/<br />

yovelTviuri operatiuli informaciis<br />

damuSaveba da saWiroebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi misi ganxilva;<br />

erovnuli bankis mier warmodgenili<br />

araauditirebuli<br />

sabalanso uwyisis damuSaveba<br />

da, aseve, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi<br />

misi ganxilva; moqalaqeebisa<br />

da organizaciebis<br />

werilebis ganxilva da Sesabamisi<br />

reagireba. komiteti tradiciulad<br />

ismens biznesombudsmenis<br />

mier komitetisTvis wardgenil<br />

wliur angariSs, kvartalurad<br />

ganixilavs saxelmwifo<br />

auditis angariSebs, ganixilavs<br />

2017 wlis saxelmwifo biujetis<br />

Sesrulebis pirveli kvartlis,<br />

6 Tvisa da 9 Tvis angariSebs<br />

da sxv.<br />

komiteti 2018 wlis bolosTvis<br />

ki erovnuli bankis mier<br />

warmodgenili momavali sami<br />

wlis (2018-2019-2020 wlebis)<br />

monetaruli politikis ZiriTadi<br />

mimarTulebebis proeqtis<br />

ganxilvas, dadgenilebis proeqtis<br />

SemuSavebasa da parlamentisTvis<br />

dasamtkiceblad wardgenas<br />

gegmavs. komiteti tradiciulad<br />

imuSavebs Semdgomi<br />

wlis saxelmwifo biujetis Sesaxeb<br />

kanonproeqtze.<br />

mTeli wlis ganmvalobaSi<br />

dagegmilia saerTaSoriso da<br />

donori organizaciebis (WB;<br />

IMF; GIZ; NDI; UNDP; USAID)<br />

warmomadgenlebTan Sexvedrebi,<br />

maTi kvlevebisa da rekomendaciebis<br />

gaanalizeba da maT<br />

safuZvelze moqmedi kanonmdeblobis<br />

daxvewa.<br />

komitetis sxdomaze aseve<br />

ganixiles e. w. larizaciis reformasTan<br />

dakavSirebuli kanonproeqtTa<br />

paketi, romelsac<br />

parlamenti daCqarebuli wesiT<br />

ixilavs da mxari dauWires<br />

plenarul sxdomaze mesame _<br />

saboloo mosmeniT gansaxilvelad<br />

gatanas.<br />

yovelive amis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />

„qronika+”-ma Tvali gadaavlo<br />

komitetis muSaobas axali<br />

wlidan, Tu raze imuSaves<br />

da ras gegmaven samomavlod:<br />

mimdinare wlis 7 Tebervals<br />

safinanso-sabiujeto komitetis<br />

sxdoma gaimarTa, romelsac,<br />

ra Tqma unda, komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomare, irakli kovzanaZe<br />

uZRveboda. aq pirveli mosmenisTvis<br />

ganixiles saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobis mier sakanonmdeblo<br />

iniciativis wesiT warmodgenili<br />

„regulirebis safasuris<br />

Sesaxeb” saqarTvelos<br />

kanonSi cvlilebis Setanis Taobaze”<br />

kanonproeqti, romelic<br />

deputatebs saqarTvelos garemosa<br />

da bunebrivi resursebis<br />

dacvis ministris moadgile<br />

maia biTaZem warudgina.<br />

am kanonproeqtiT bunebrivi<br />

resursebiT sargeblobis, nav-<br />

Tobisa da gazis gadamuSavebis,<br />

an transportirebis saqmianobis<br />

regulirebis safasuris<br />

odenoba, struqtura da gadaxdis<br />

wesi dgindeba. am kanonproeqtis<br />

mixedviT, regulirebis<br />

safasuris konkretul odenobebs<br />

kanoni gansazRvravs, gamonaklisis<br />

saxiT ki, 2016-2017<br />

wlis TevzWeris sezonisTvis,<br />

regulirebis safasuris gadaxda,<br />

erTjeradad, sruli odenobiT<br />

ganxorcieldeba.<br />

amave sxdomaze ganixiles saqarTvelos<br />

kanonproeqti „eleqtronuli<br />

dokumentisa da eleqtronuli<br />

sando momsaxurebis<br />

Sesaxeb” da misgan gamomdinare<br />

kanonproeqtebi, am SemTxvevaSi<br />

ki momxsenebeli iyo saqarTvelos<br />

iusticiis ministris<br />

pirveli moadgile, aleqsandre<br />

baramiZe, romlis TqmiTac<br />

SemoTavazebuli kanonproeqtiT<br />

saqarTvelos kanonmdebloba<br />

evrokavSiris kanonmdeblobasTan<br />

modis SesabamisobaSi.<br />

eleqtronuli xelmowerisa da<br />

sxva sando momsaxurebis gamoyenebis<br />

samarTlebrivi meqanizmebi<br />

ganisazRvreba da maTi saSualebiT<br />

eleqtronul mmarTvelobas,<br />

eleqtronuli biznesis<br />

ganviTarebasa da sxva mimarTulebebs<br />

xeli Seewyoba.<br />

kanonproeqtis Tanaxmad,<br />

qveynis masStabiT eleqtronuli<br />

dokumenti da eleqtronuli<br />

sando momsaxureba ufro<br />

farTod gavrceldeba. moqmedi<br />

kanonisgan gansxvavebiT, romelic<br />

eleqtronul dokumentze<br />

uaris Tqmis saSualebas mxolod<br />

sasamarTlos uzRudavda,<br />

warmodgenili redaqcia, praqtikulad,<br />

sajaro uflebamosilebis<br />

ganmaxorcielebel organoebs<br />

avaldebulebs, uari ar<br />

Tqvas eleqtronul dokumentze<br />

mxolod im motiviT, rom<br />

is wardgenili ar aris materialuri<br />

formiT (qaRaldis saxiT).<br />

amasTan, eleqtronuli dokumentis<br />

gamoyeneba SesaZlebelia<br />

yvela im SemTxvevaSi, rodesac<br />

moiTxoveba dokumentis<br />

werilobiTi forma, Tu kanoniT<br />

sxva ram ar aris dadgenili.<br />

iusticiis ministris pirveli<br />

moadgilis gancxadebiT, axali<br />

kanonis idea swored isaa,<br />

rom eleqtronuli xelmoweris<br />

cnebas absoluturad sxvanairad<br />

iTvaliswinebs da ganmartavs.<br />

misive TqmiT, eleqtronul<br />

dokumentbrunvaSi CarTul<br />

pirebs unikalur binarul<br />

kods e. w. sando momsaxurebis<br />

mimwodebeli gadascems. rac Seexeba<br />

sando momsaxurebis mimwodebels,<br />

aleqsandre baramiZis<br />

gancxadebiT, kanoniT gawerilia,<br />

rom sando servisebis mimwodebelma<br />

avtorizacia unda<br />

gaiaros iusticiis saministros<br />

ssip monacemTa gacvlis<br />

saagentoSi.<br />

kanonproeqtis Tanaxmad, kvalificiur<br />

eleqtronul xelmoweras<br />

iseTive iuridiuli Zala<br />

aqvs, rogoric materialur<br />

dokumentze materialur xelmoweras.<br />

komitetma warmodgenil kanonproeqtTa<br />

pakets mxari dau-<br />

Wira.<br />

komitetis sxdomaze saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobis mier ratificirebisTvis<br />

warmodgenili „evropis<br />

Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />

asociaciis qveynebsa da saqar-<br />

Tvelos Soris Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />

Sesaxeb” SeTanxmeba ganixiles.<br />

dokumenti saqarTvelosa da<br />

evropis Tavisufali vaWrobis<br />

asociaciis wevr qveynebs Soris<br />

(Sveicaria, lixtenStaini, islandia,<br />

norvegia) produqtebi-<br />

Ta da momsaxurebiT vaWrobis<br />

xelSewyobas iTvaliswinebs. Se-<br />

Tanxmeba, aseve, iTvaliswinebs<br />

mxareebs Soris TanamSromlobas<br />

iseTi mniSvnelovani mimarTulebebiT,<br />

rogoricaa: sursaTis<br />

uvnebloba, vaWrobis xelSewyoba,<br />

saqonlis warmoSobis<br />

wesebi, inteleqtualuri sakuTrebis<br />

dacva, Tavisufali<br />

konkurencia da sxv.<br />

amave komitetis sxdomaze<br />

kanonmdeblebma mxari dauWires<br />

mTavrobis mier warmodgenil<br />

sam saratifikacio dokuments:<br />

• „saqarTvelosa da evropis<br />

sainvesticio banks Soris finansuri<br />

xelSekruleba (saqarTvelos<br />

municipaluri infrastruqturis<br />

aRdgena);<br />

• „saqarTvelosa da aziis<br />

ganviTarebis banks Soris sasesxo<br />

SeTanxmeba (Cveulebrivi<br />

operaciebi) (urbanuli momsaxurebis<br />

gaumjobesebis sainvesticio<br />

programa _ proeqti 6);<br />

• „saqarTvelosa da evropis<br />

sainvesticio banks Soris finansuri<br />

xelSekruleba” (saqarTvelos<br />

satransporto komunikacia).<br />

komitetebis wevrebma ratificirebisTvis<br />

warmodgenil<br />

xelSekrulebebs mxari dauWires.<br />

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konkretulad raze muSaoben<br />

komitetis wevrebi, amis gasarkvevad<br />

„qronika+” komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomaris pirvel moadgile<br />

paata kviJinaZes es-<br />

aubra:<br />

_ 2017 wlis saqmianobis gegmiT<br />

detalurad aris gawerili<br />

komitetis muSaobis yovelTviuri<br />

grafiki, rogorc sagazafxulo,<br />

aseve saSemodgomo sesiebisTvis.<br />

mTavari sakiTxi, romelzedac<br />

komiteti uwyvetad<br />

apirebs muSaobas, aris komitetSi<br />

Semosuli kanonproeqtebis,<br />

saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebisa<br />

da sakanonmdeblo<br />

winadadebebis ganxilva.<br />

Cveulebriv reJimSi vmuSaobT,<br />

aris kanonebi, romlebic am<br />

wuTSi muSavdeba, es aris saratifikacio,<br />

kanonebi, romlebzedac<br />

wamyvani komiteti varT,<br />

ri modeli. dekemberSi larTan<br />

dakavSirebiT bevri kanoni miviReT,<br />

am wuTSi aRniSnul process<br />

vakvirdebiT. rogorc iciT,<br />

mogebis gadasaxadis kanoni<br />

pirveli ianvridan amoqmedda<br />

da Tu rame Sesacvleli iqna da<br />

ise ar muSaobs, rogorc unda<br />

muSaobdes, ra Tqma unda, gadawyvetilebebs<br />

miviRebT, magram,<br />

am wuTSi, konkretuli araferia.<br />

cxadia, „qronika+” ufro konkretuli<br />

gegmebisa da inicirebis<br />

Sesaxeb xsenebuli komitetis<br />

sxva wevrebsac daukavSirda,<br />

rom araferi vTqvaT komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomareze, romel-<br />

Tan saubaric dedaqalaqSi misi<br />

aryofnisa da mobiluri kavSiris<br />

Seferxebis gamo ver moxerxda.<br />

aseve davukavSirdiT roman<br />

safinanso-sabiujeto komitetSi?<br />

aki zoiZem:<br />

_ ZiriTadi samuSao da yvelaze<br />

mniSvnelovani rac gavake-<br />

TeT, es iyo 2017 wlis biujet-<br />

Tan dakavSirebiT. axla mimdinare<br />

iniciativebia, vTqvaT, saministroebis<br />

SarSandeli muSaobis<br />

Sefaseba da mTeli rigi<br />

saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebebi.<br />

sxva raRac gansakuTrebuli<br />

iniciativa ar maxsendeba. am komitetis<br />

ZiriTadi arsic, rogorc<br />

iciT, biujetis kanonsa da<br />

angariSebze muSaobaa.<br />

_ janmrTelobis dacvisa da<br />

socialuri kuTxiT xom ar ig-<br />

egmeba raime siaxle?<br />

_ Zalian bevr rames vakeTebT,<br />

Semdeg or TveSi, sazogadoebis<br />

maRali CarTulobiT,<br />

grZelvadian strategiul xedvas<br />

CamovayalibebT jandacvisa<br />

da SromiTi urTierTobis mima-<br />

amis safuZvelze ki, erTiani Se-<br />

Tanxmebisa da SefasebiT miRebul<br />

xedvaze, ukve unda CamovayaliboT<br />

da davafuZnoT komitetis<br />

Semdegi oTxwliani samoqmedo<br />

gegma. es yvelaferi or<br />

TveSi unda gavakeToT.<br />

_ zogadi msjelobis Semdeg<br />

apirebT am gegmis Camoyalibebas,<br />

Tu ukve garkveuli xe-<br />

dva da Wrili SeimuSaveT?<br />

_ ara, sazogadoebis CarTuloba<br />

xom imas niSnavs, rom Tu<br />

yvelaferi winaswar ar gaqvs<br />

Sedgenili, maSin raRa azri<br />

aqvs CarTulobas?! ra Tqma unda,<br />

strategiuli normebi arsebobs,<br />

magram yvelaferi Sesajerebelia,<br />

sabolood SesaTanxmebelia:<br />

rogori jandacvis sistema<br />

unda gvqondes 2030 wels,<br />

ra unda iyos kerZo sadazRvevo<br />

kompaniebis roli, saxelmwi-<br />

ni SevTanxmdebiT. kargi isaa,<br />

rom politikuri amindis mixedviT<br />

ar iqneba es SeTanxmeba,<br />

radgan Cveni problema yovel-<br />

Tvis is iyo, rom 180 gradusiT<br />

vcvlidiT reformebs, roca<br />

erTi politikuri Zala meoriT<br />

icvleboda. TiTqmis 25 welia,<br />

amas kargi araferi moutania<br />

jandacvisTvis. Sesabamisad, es<br />

gasakeTebelia da mere, roca<br />

grZelvadian gegmas SevimuSavebT,<br />

gvinda, rom detalurad<br />

CamovyalibdeT sakanonmdeblo<br />

iniciativebze, am sakiTxisken<br />

mimarTul mwyobr gegmaze.<br />

_ wina wels Tu iyo iseTi<br />

ram, risi Secvlac upriani iq-<br />

neboda, magram ver moxerxda?<br />

_ ara, muSaoba axla daviwyeT,<br />

jerjerobiT, dasanani araferi<br />

gvqonia. bevri ramea Sesacvleli,<br />

dasaxvewi. rac vTqviT<br />

kanonebi, sadac savaldebulo<br />

komitets warmovadgenT. aseve<br />

vmuSaobT auditis samsaxurTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, Tu ra saxiT unda<br />

iyos warmodgenili maT mier<br />

momzadebuli masalebi da rogor<br />

SevqmnaT samuSao jgufi;<br />

rogor ufro maRal xarisxSi<br />

ava es samsaxuri safinanso-sabiujeto<br />

komitetTan. aseve gvaqvs<br />

urTierToba mTavrobasTan;<br />

sxvadasxva komisiaSi varT, sadac<br />

sapensio reforma muSavdeba,<br />

aseve aris fondebTan dakav-<br />

Sirebuli sakiTxebi da a. S.<br />

muSa procesia.<br />

_ samomavlod ramis inicir-<br />

ebas xom ar gegmavT?<br />

_ auditTan dakavSirebiT<br />

raRac sakiTxebis gadawyvetas<br />

vapirebT, magram es muSa procesia<br />

da winasar verafers vityviT.<br />

Cven umravlesoba varT,<br />

romelsac daniSnuli mTavroba<br />

hyavs da yvelaferi erToblivad<br />

xdeba. gansakuTrebul siurprizebs<br />

erTmaneTs ar vumzadebT,<br />

radgan finansTa saministro<br />

da safinanso-sabiujeto<br />

komiteti sakiTxebze erToblivad<br />

muSaobs, rac Sejerebuli<br />

gamodis dRis sinaTleze.<br />

_ wina wels xom ar iyo<br />

raime muxli an punqti, romlis<br />

Secvlac ukeTesi iqneboda da<br />

ver moaxerxeT?<br />

_ wina wels bevri kanoni miviReT,<br />

maT Soris, e. w. estonu-<br />

gociriZes, romelmac ganacxada,<br />

rom msgavs Temaze komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomares unda mivmar-<br />

ToT da, samwuxarod, komentaris<br />

gakeTeba ar isurva.<br />

Tumca aqtiurad CaerTo da<br />

„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs upasuxa<br />

safinanso-sabiujeto komi-<br />

tetis wevrma, janmrTelobis<br />

dacvisa da socialur sakiTx-<br />

Ta komitetis Tavmjdomare ak-<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

rTulebiT. ZiriTad amocanebsa<br />

da miznebze vimsjelebT da<br />

gvinda, am procesSi CavrToT<br />

yvela dainteresebuli fena,<br />

asociaciebi, saparlamento da<br />

arasaparlamento opozicia da<br />

aseTi departiuli konsensusi<br />

iyos, Tu ra unda da sad iqneba<br />

saqarTvelos SromiTi urTier-<br />

Tobebi da socialuri dacva<br />

samomavlod, vTqvaT, 2030 wels.<br />

`Zalian bevr rames vakeTebT, Semdeg or<br />

TveSi, sazogadoebis maRali<br />

CarTulobiT, grZelvadian strategiul<br />

xedvas CamovayalibebT jandacvisa da<br />

SromiTi urTierTobis mimarTulebiT.<br />

ZiriTad amocanebsa da miznebze<br />

vimsjelebT da gvinda, am procesSi<br />

CavrToT yvela dainteresebuli fena,<br />

asociaciebi, saparlamento da<br />

arasaparlamento opozicia da aseTi<br />

departiuli konsensusi iyos, Tu ra<br />

unda da sad iqneba saqarTvelos<br />

SromiTi urTierTobebi da socialuri<br />

dacva samomavlod, vTqvaT, 2030 wels.<br />

amis safuZvelze ki, erTiani SeTanxmebisa<br />

da SefasebiT miRebul xedvaze, ukve unda<br />

CamovayaliboT da davafuZnoT<br />

komitetis Semdegi oTxwliani samoqmedo<br />

gegma. es yvelaferi or TveSi unda<br />

gavakeToT~<br />

fos roli, dafinansebis sistema,<br />

rogori unda iyos samedicino<br />

xarisxi. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

grZelvadiani gegma Camoyalibdeba,<br />

romelzedac yvela-<br />

akaki zoiZe<br />

im TemasTan dakavSirebiT, axla<br />

am gegmas vayalibebT, radgan<br />

bevri samuSaoa, jandacvaze,<br />

SromiT urTierTobebze, SromiT<br />

kanonmdeblobaze. socialuri<br />

daxmarebis sistemis sakmaod<br />

mniSvnelovani reformaa<br />

saWiro, rom am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />

ukmayofileba aRar<br />

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aseve, sxvadasxva dros naTqvami<br />

frazebis SekowiwebiT miRebuli<br />

e. w. satelefono saubari TavianT<br />

sasargeblod da imis samtkiceblad<br />

gamoiyenes, aqaoda, nika<br />

gvaramiam amiT aRiara, rom Canawerebisa<br />

da mimoweris damontaJeba-gayalbeba<br />

SeuZliao...<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is dacvis aucileblobaze<br />

sazogadoebis didi<br />

nawili ukve karga xania, SeTanxmebulia.<br />

es araerTxel gamovlinda:<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is SesasvlelTan,<br />

mere ki ezoSi gamarTuli aqciebis<br />

dros, sxvadasxva instanciis<br />

sasamarTlos ezoebSi, drodadro<br />

rom „zonder-politpatimrebs”<br />

uqsevda xelisufleba, arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebis er-<br />

Toblivi gancxadebebiT da saer-<br />

TaSoriso diplomatiuri korpusis<br />

araorazrovani, mkafio mesijebiT,<br />

rom „rusTavi 2"-is xelyofa<br />

dauSvebelia.<br />

amis miuxedavad, xelisufleba<br />

agrZelebda da agrZelebs<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg brZolas<br />

ise, rom winaswari molodini,<br />

ama Tu im dasaxelebul TariRze<br />

„rusTavi 2"-Si Sevlen, am<br />

dromde, arsebobs, Tumca ar mar-<br />

Tldeba _ es TariRi samomavlod<br />

iwevs da iwevs. rasakvirvelia, xelisufleba<br />

am molodins mizanmimarTulad<br />

aCens, rom mere ar<br />

gamarTldes da TiTze daixvios,<br />

_ ai, arafersac ar vapirebT, cru<br />

gangaSiao.<br />

wesiT da rigiT, ramdenime<br />

gacruebuli SeWra, waReba Tu<br />

sxvisTvis gadacema, sazogadoebaSi<br />

am Temis gaubraloebas, sifxizlis<br />

modunebas unda iwvevdes,<br />

26<br />

rogorc „mgeli, mgelis” moyvirali<br />

mwyemsis SemTxvevaSi moxda,<br />

magram piriqiTaa _ sazogadoebis<br />

momlodine nawilis reaqcia<br />

jerac mkveTri da myisieria, mzadyofna<br />

_ TvalSi sacemi da esec<br />

xelisuflebis „damsaxurebaa”,<br />

radgan sazogadoebis am nawilma<br />

Zalian kargad icis, ra meTodebi<br />

aqvT mmarTvelobis zeda eSelonebSi<br />

da razea gaTvlili<br />

vertikalis moqmedebebi.<br />

sxva Temaa gadafarvis politika.<br />

rasakvirvelia, arc aseTi Temebi<br />

ileva da, pirvel rigSi, amaze<br />

biZina ivaniSvili zrunavs,<br />

romelmac titisa da magnoliis<br />

Semdeg axla guriaSi, natanebSi<br />

fesvebgadgmul aswlovan muxeba<br />

da sxva iSviaTi jiSis xeebs daadga<br />

Tvali.<br />

rogorc „qronika+”-is wyaro<br />

ambobs, natanebSi, visac ki ezoSi<br />

aswlovani, an meti asakis xeebi<br />

edga, ivaniSvilis „krikunebi”<br />

yvelgan mividnen da xeebis patronebs<br />

soliduri, macduri<br />

garigeba SesTavazes, rasac isedac<br />

Sav dReSi myofi mosaxleoba<br />

advilad dasTanxmda.<br />

es arcaa gasakviri, radgan xe<br />

mxolod SeSad da mosaCrdileblad<br />

Tu gamodgeba _ sakvebad is<br />

uvargisi da gamouyenebelia, mosaxleobis<br />

didi nawilis problema<br />

ki ojaxis gamokvebaa _ maT Soris,<br />

cxadia, asea natanebSic. amitomac<br />

ivaniSvilis kurierebi<br />

dadian da maT sarfian garigebas<br />

sTavazoben, xolo sadac mosaxleoba<br />

ar cxovrobs, im teritoriidan<br />

xeebs sulac ubodiSod<br />

da ufasod ezidebian, magaliTad,<br />

natanebis yofili Cais fabrikidan,<br />

saidanac xeebi gaaqvT,<br />

sanacvlod arafers rgaven (jerjerobiT,<br />

mainc), mosaxleobas ki<br />

eubnebian, am xeebis sanacvlod<br />

ivaniSvili italiidan iwers xeebs,<br />

romlebsac aq davrgavT da<br />

skversac gavaSenebTo.<br />

es Temebi, cxadia, natanebidanac<br />

Jonavs „feisbuqze”, sadac iwyeba<br />

qiliki, lanZRva, gineba da<br />

dacinva. es ki, ra Tqma unda, mTavari<br />

Temisgan mowyvetas da yuradRebis<br />

sxva mimarTulebiT mobilizebas<br />

iwvevs, anu „rusTavi 2"-<br />

is Tema ukana planze gadadis.<br />

igive SeiZleba iTqvas sapatriarqos<br />

bolodroindel skandalzec,<br />

Tumca am sensitiur sakiTxSi<br />

jerac bevri ramaa burusiT<br />

moculi da sanam oficialuri<br />

ganmartebebi ar gakeTdeba<br />

rogorc xelisuflebis, aseve<br />

sapatriarqos warmomadgenelTa<br />

mxridan, cota Znelia versiebze<br />

saubari. erTi ram naTelia,<br />

rom qorepiskoposi „rusTavi<br />

2"-Tan satelefono saubarSi arc<br />

uaryofs da arc adasturebs patriarqis<br />

SesaZlo mowamvlas _<br />

ambobs, rom SekiTxvebs mogvianebiT,<br />

TbilisSi Camosvlis Semdeg<br />

gascems pasuxs.<br />

arsebobs, aseve, yuradRebis<br />

gadasatani sxva, wvril-wvrili<br />

Temebic, rogorebicaa jejelavasa<br />

da zaqaria qucnaSvilis gancxadebebi,<br />

SigadaSig ki marTvadi<br />

saparlamento opoziciis replikebi<br />

(magaliTad, ada marSaniasi).<br />

aris kidev erTi Tema, romelic<br />

zogs aqtualur problemad<br />

miaCnia, zogs ki swored „rusTavi<br />

2"-is Temis miCqmalvisa da ukana<br />

planze gadawevis mcdelobad _<br />

sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli da<br />

mis garSemo mimdinare procesebi,<br />

romelsac ucnaurad mieba memarcxene<br />

organizaciebis gamosvlebi<br />

mSromelTa uflebebis<br />

dasacavad lozungiT „qarxnebi<br />

muSebs”. gasuli kviris bolos am<br />

organizaciebis warmomadgenel-<br />

Ta SeWra sazmaus Senobis foieSi<br />

da maTi daJinebuli moTxovniT<br />

„moambeSi” pirdapiri eTeris<br />

miReba, Semdeg ki gancxadebaSi,<br />

saerTodac, „rusTavi 2"-is arxseneba<br />

swored amaze mianiSnebs...<br />

es da kidev sxva gadasafari<br />

Temebi, savaraudod, momavalSic<br />

gamoCndeba. „rusTavi 2"-is garSemo<br />

yulfi viwrovdeba, Tumca<br />

jer dadgenili ar aris, rodis<br />

gamoacxadebs gadawyvetilebas<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlo. 10-15 Tebervali,<br />

TiTqos, is periodi unda<br />

yofiliyo, roca gadawyvetileba<br />

unda gasajarovebuliyo,<br />

magram es jerac ar momxdara da<br />

rogorc irkveva, karga xans arc<br />

moxdeba, radgan jer mosamarTleebic<br />

ki ar SeurCeviaT...<br />

swored aseT situaciaSi, dRes<br />

da axla, Zalian didi mniSvneloba<br />

aqvs saprotesto gamosvlebs<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is mxardasaWerad.<br />

rac mTavaria, am aqciaze isinic<br />

ki unda mividnen, visac „rusTavi<br />

2" maincdamainc ar moswons, magram<br />

kargad icis, rom misi daxurviT<br />

an sxvisTvis (xelisuflebasTan<br />

afilirebuli pirebisTvis)<br />

gadacemiT safrTxis qveS<br />

dgeba misi piradi keTildReobac,<br />

radgan mediis nebismieri xelyofa<br />

imis momaswavebelia, rom<br />

xelisufleba nebismieri gansxvavebuli<br />

azris CaxSobas cdilobs,<br />

rac, adre Tu gvian, moqalaqesac<br />

Seexeba (Tu ar gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />

rom ukve exeba<br />

kidec, magaliTad, mosmenebis<br />

Sesaxeb kanoniT).<br />

10 Tebervals gamarTuli aqcia-msvleloba<br />

„rusTavi 2"-isa<br />

da sazmaus mxardasaWerad bevri<br />

faqtoriT iyo mniSvnelovani. pirvel<br />

rigSi imiT, rom es iyo<br />

pirveli erToblivi aqcia, romelic<br />

axlad Seqmnil sakoordinacio<br />

sabWoSi Semavalma politikurma<br />

organizaciebma gamarTes.<br />

am organizaciaSi, saerTo<br />

jamSi, 8 politikuri gaerTianeba<br />

Sevida, maT Soris, enm, edp,<br />

afxazTa kreba da sxvebi.<br />

swored maTi inciativa iyo,<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos mier gadawyvetilebis<br />

gamocxadebis savaraudo<br />

SualedSi (10-15 Tebervali)<br />

erTi aqcia Catarebuliyo.<br />

amiT sabWo Zalebsac mosinjavda<br />

da, rasakvirvelia, saqmec gakeTdeboda.<br />

aqciis aTvlis wertilad<br />

rusTavelis Zeglis mimdebare<br />

teritoria iqca _ swored<br />

aq moiyares Tavi sxvadasxva plakatiT<br />

„SeiaraRebulma” demonstrantebma.<br />

Tavdapirvelad aqcias<br />

adgilze xelmZRvanelobd-<br />

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da gadasafari Temebi<br />

Tavisufali da alternatiuli<br />

sityva, rasac dRes warmoadgens<br />

„rusTavi 2". bunebrivia, mTeli<br />

sazogadoeba dairazmeba da ivaniSvili<br />

aucileblad damarcxdeba”,<br />

_ ganacxada gia baramiZem.<br />

„ivaniSvili „rusTavi 2"-s epotineba,<br />

is abuCad igdebs sazogadoebas,<br />

xalxs, magram darwmunebuli<br />

var, es ar gamouva”, _ Tqva<br />

koba xabazma.<br />

„rom ara es televizia, dRes<br />

qveyanaSi Zalian bevr adamians ar<br />

ecodineboda, ra qveyanaSi vcxovrobT.<br />

„rusTavi 2" aris xalxis<br />

televizia. xelisufleba moqmedebs,<br />

rom Tavisufali azri<br />

da sityva CaaxSos. „rusTavi 2" sazogadoebas<br />

ekuTvnis. rodesac<br />

sityvis Tavisuflebis CaxSobis<br />

mcdelobaa, sazogadoeba mSvidobiani<br />

protestiT iwyebs moqmedebas<br />

am mankieri praqtikis<br />

mimarT. dRevandeli dRe ivaniSvilis<br />

gafrTxilebaa. biZina ivaniSvils<br />

signals vugzavniT, rom<br />

xeli aiRos „rusTavi 2"-is saxl-<br />

nen enm-elebi: akaki minaSvili,<br />

zurab meliqiSvili da koba xabazi,<br />

mere ki nika melia, baCuki qardava,<br />

paata daviTaia, malxaz pataraia<br />

da sxvebic gamoCndnen.<br />

pirveli, rac aSkarad gecemodaT<br />

TvalSi, arademonstranti<br />

moqalaqeebis Rimilnarevi reaqcia<br />

iyo im plakatebis danaxvaze,<br />

razec adre agresias ar malavdnen:<br />

„ivaniSvilo, Senamdec movalT!”<br />

„xelebi Sors „rusTavi 2"-<br />

isgan da „sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblisgan!”,<br />

„Tavdacvidan _ Setevaze!”<br />

„rusTavi 2" Cemia!” _ es<br />

plakatebis arasruli CamonaTvalia.<br />

msvlelobis dawyebamde adgilze<br />

saimedod SefuTuli dramerebi<br />

mividnen, romlebic demonstracias<br />

musikalurad aformebdnen<br />

da, kacma rom Tqvas, situacias<br />

Zalian karg muxtsa da<br />

draivs hmatebdnen. musikaluri<br />

ganwyoba da detalebi am aqcias<br />

imdenadac ki daebeda, rom ukve<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Senobas-<br />

Tan gadanacvlebulebma, zaza<br />

bibilaSvilma, irakli ColoyaSvilma,<br />

gia Wanturiam da rusudan<br />

cirekiZem „mravalJamieric” ki<br />

dascxes, rac enm-dan wasuli<br />

„gamijnulebisTvis”, ratomRac,<br />

qilikis safuZvlad iqca...<br />

aqciis dawyebisTanave mcire<br />

kamaTi moxda sapatrulo policiis<br />

warmomadgenlebsa da enm-s<br />

liderebs Soris. kamaTi gzis<br />

gadaketvas exeboda. Tavdapirveli<br />

SeTanxmebiT, demonstrantebs<br />

mxolod rusTavelis gamziris<br />

savali gzis erTi zoli unda<br />

gadaeketaT, magram maT mTlianad<br />

gamzirze gaSla moindomes, rasac<br />

policielebi ewinaaRmdegebodnen:<br />

„xom SevTanxmdiT” wamoZaxiliT.<br />

sabolood, yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />

dasrulda, rusTavelze<br />

manqanebis gadaadgileba paralizebuli<br />

ar iyo da sapatrulo<br />

policiis TanamSromlebic TavianTi<br />

videoTvalis kamerebiT<br />

aqciis gadaRebaze gadavidnen.<br />

aqcias iRebdnen gamvleli manqanebidanac.<br />

„ra xdeba?” _ kiTxulobda<br />

zogi, xolo pasuxis<br />

miRebis Semdeg, mowonebis niSnad,<br />

cers maRla wevdnen. mogvianebiT,<br />

igive ganmeorda laRiZisa da<br />

griboedovis quCebzec, sadac<br />

moqalaqeebi maRaziebidan da<br />

marketebidan gamodiodnen da,<br />

marTalia, aqcias ar uerTdebodnen,<br />

magram maTi monawileebis<br />

mimarT solidarobas RimiliTa<br />

da xelis qneviT gamoxatavdnen _<br />

esec erTgvari deteqtori iyo,<br />

rom aqcias bevri uWerda mxars.<br />

aqciis msvlelobis dros komentarebi<br />

enm-s liderebma da sakoordinacio<br />

sabWos wevrebma<br />

gaakeTes:<br />

„darwmunebuli var, Cveni mravali<br />

aTasi da milioni Tanamoqalaqis<br />

saxeliT gamovxatavT<br />

protests ivaniSvilis moRalateobrivi<br />

politikis mimarT,<br />

romelsac unda, rom es qveyana<br />

raRac warmonaqmnad aqcios da<br />

ara saxelmwifod, sadac ar aris<br />

Si waRebisgan”, _ ganacxada nika<br />

meliam aqciaze.<br />

edp-s Tavmjdomare baCuki<br />

qardavam msvlelobis monawileebsa<br />

da uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

SenobasTan Sekrebilebs „Tavisuflebis<br />

mecixovneebi” uwoda:<br />

„Tavs nu movityuebT, „rus-<br />

Tavi 2" ar aris Tavisufali televizia<br />

im gagebiT, rom „giJi Tavisufalia”.<br />

msoflioSi yvela<br />

cnobil mediasaSualebas aqvs Tavisi<br />

saredaqcio politika, Tavisi<br />

prioritetebi da „rusTavi 2"-<br />

is arseboba im saxiT, ra saxiTac<br />

dRes arsebobs, aucilebelia qveynis<br />

ganviTarebisTvis”, _ aRniSna<br />

man. da kidev erTi detali:<br />

demonstrantebs Soris ramdenimem<br />

enm-s liderebs „barem sololakze<br />

asvla” SesTavaza, magram<br />

maT es winadadeba Tavazianad uaryves<br />

da momavali kviris dasawyisidan<br />

axali aqciebi daaanonses.<br />

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neli vardiaSvili<br />

& power-i mosaxleobis aqciebs ver<br />

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pasuxis gacema dedaqalaqis im mcx-<br />

ovreblebisTvis, romelTac es kompania, ukve Zalian xSirad,<br />

wylis gareSe tovebs. sazogadoebaSi bevri kiTxvis niSani gaCn-<br />

da maT saqmianobasTan dakavSirebiT. erT-erTi ki aseTia:<br />

GWP garigebebSi imyofeba ma-<br />

RaziebSi gasayidad gamotanili<br />

sasmeli wylis gamyidvel sawarmoebTan<br />

da imis gamo, rom Tbilisis<br />

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wyali gaiyidos da misi Camomsxmelebi<br />

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sanatrels uxdis. braldeba seriozulia,<br />

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unda iyvnen amgvari sakiTxebis<br />

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ai, narmania ki aSkara SarSia.<br />

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marTalia, siamtkbilur kav-<br />

Sirebs GWP-sTan uaryofs, magram<br />

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xalxs yovelTvis erTsa<br />

da imaves pasuxobs: dazianebaa,<br />

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rac, xSir SemTxvevaSi, tyuilia,<br />

radgan mosaxleobam ukve gaarkvia,<br />

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warmomadgenlebTan erTad kompania `jorjian<br />

uoTer end faueris~ wyalmomaragebis obieqtebi<br />

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RrmaRelis saTavo nageboba, safiltre sadguri<br />

da wylis xarisxis kontrolis centraluri<br />

laboratoria moinaxules, sadac sasmeli wylis<br />

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maT, aseve, unikaluri mobiluri laboratoria<br />

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laboratoriaSi adgilze Catarebuli kvlevebis<br />

saSualebiT arasawarmo da sawarmoo<br />

dawesebulebebidan wyalarinebis koleqtorSi<br />

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stumrebma moinaxules: saguramos satumbo<br />

sadguri, nataxtris wyalSemkrebi nageboba,<br />

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hidroeleqtrosadguri `saguramohesi~. `jorjian<br />

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generaluri direqtori; ekaterine beriZe -<br />

komunikaciisa da korporaciuli momsaxurebis<br />

direqtori; irakli babuxadia - komerciuli<br />

direqtori; mamuka kikaliSvili - operaciebis<br />

marTvis direqtori; Tamar nikuraZe -<br />

centraluri laboratoriis ufrosi da<br />

kompaniis menejmentis warmomadgenlebi. vizitis<br />

mimdinareobisas `jorjian uoTer end faueris~<br />

xelmZRvanelebma, qalaqis merTan da meriis<br />

warmomadgenlebTan erTad, kompaniis samomavlo<br />

gegmebsa da sainvesticio proeqtebis<br />

umniSvnelovanes mimarTulebebze isaubres.<br />

kompania msgavs Sexvedrebs samomavlodac<br />

gaagrZelebs~<br />

aRniSnul ubnebSi, GWP-is warmomadgenlebi<br />

aranair samuSaoebs<br />

ar asruleben. samagierod, am<br />

dros didi muSaoba CaRdeba ma-<br />

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boTlis wyali. yofila<br />

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ubnis arc erT maRaziaSi gasayidi<br />

wyali aRar darCenila da gamyidvelebs<br />

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ukve SevatyobineT da distributorebi,<br />

sadac aris, sasmeli wylis<br />

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isic gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />

maRaziebSi wyals is xalxi yidulobs,<br />

visac amis saSualeba, jer<br />

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iqcevian aseT dros uwylod<br />

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TeTrs gamozomilad xarjaven,<br />

raTa puri mainc SeiZinon da mSivrebi<br />

ar darCnen. SeiZleba, zogierTs<br />

es sityvebi paTetikadac<br />

moeCvenos, magram umuSevarTa,<br />

usaxlkaroTa, devnilTa, gaWirvebulTa,<br />

siRaribis zRvars miRma<br />

myofTa, urnebSi saWmlis mZebnelTa<br />

grZel sias kidev erTxel<br />

Tu gadaavleben Tvals, kargi<br />

iqneba, radgan imedia, ase ufro<br />

mivxdebian, rom am adamianebis<br />

bedi aravis anaRvlebs.<br />

erT dRes, rodesac onkanSi<br />

wyali kvlav xangrZlivi droiT<br />

Sewyda da wylis SesaZenad „karfurs”<br />

mivadeqi, iciT, ra vnaxe?<br />

_ iq ukve 40-litriani balonebiT<br />

iyideboda wyali, romelsac myidveli<br />

blomad hyavda. am faqtidan<br />

erTaderTi daskvna gamovitane,<br />

romelmac isev kompania<br />

GWP-mde mimiyvana. cxadia, am<br />

mdgomareobiT viRac vaWrobs da<br />

im gaumaZRari „baybaydevis”<br />

rols mSvenivrad irgebs, romelic<br />

qveynis bunebriv resurss dapatronebia,<br />

milionebs ixveWs da<br />

xalxs saarsebo, macocxlebel<br />

wyarosac uketavs. albaT, dameTanxmebiT,<br />

arc erTi kompania ar<br />

gamoitanda maRaziis daxlebze am<br />

moculobis WurWliT wyals, gayidvis<br />

imedi rom ar hqonoda. imeds<br />

ki Tan axlavs dapirebebi.<br />

hoda, Cvenc swored eg gvainteresebs,<br />

_ vin dahpirda sasmeli<br />

wylis gamyidvelebs wyliT gajerebul<br />

saqarTveloSi, rom erovnuli<br />

simdidriT, albaT, erToblivad,<br />

gaisqelebdnen jibeebs?<br />

onkanidan rom modiodes, 40-<br />

litriani WurWliT wyali vis<br />

raSi dasWirdeboda? amitom „karfuridan”<br />

saxlSi gamwarebuli<br />

davbrundi da socialur qselSi<br />

aseTi posti davwere:<br />

„sul gagiJda es kompania _<br />

water & power _ Tu ra jandaba<br />

xdeba? yoveldRe SeiZleba, rom<br />

wyali 24 saaTiT wydebodes? am<br />

qveyanas da am kompanias patroni<br />

hyavs?! feisbuqmaimunebs, sul<br />

lanZRva-ginebiT rom arian dakavebulni<br />

da aTas uwmawur sityvas<br />

isvrian sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT,<br />

etyoba, es problema ar<br />

awuxebT da xmac amitom aqvT Cagdebuli,<br />

Tu aseTi davaleba jer<br />

ar miuRiaT?..<br />

hoda, feisbuqmaimunebo, axla<br />

me gaZlevT davalebas: erTi, narmanias<br />

hkiTxeT, guSin rom estumra<br />

water & power-s, iq ra gaakeTa?<br />

Tvalebi agvixvia, rom saqmis kacia,<br />

Tu xeli mouwera, midiT, xalxi<br />

awameT, Cemgan „dabro” gaqv-<br />

To? xalxis problemebi exeba Tu<br />

ar exeba, xom unda vicodeT, misi<br />

merobis bolo Jams mainc?!<br />

mokled, midiT axla, dakbineT,<br />

daglijeT, SeylapeT Tqveneburad<br />

es kompania da narmania batoni.<br />

amjerad mainc gaakeTebT<br />

karg saqmes!<br />

keTilma adamianebma damiTageT<br />

water & power da narmania. amovidnen<br />

ukve yelSi!!!”<br />

aqve ganvmartavT: internetmediiT<br />

am dReebSi informacia gavrcelebula,<br />

rom „Tbilisis merma,<br />

daviT narmaniam, moadgileebTan<br />

da meriis samsaxurebis<br />

warmomadgenlebTan erTad kompania<br />

„jorjian uoTer end faueris”<br />

wyalmomaragebis obieqtebi<br />

daaTvaliera. turis farglebSi<br />

stumrebma, RrmaRelis saTavo<br />

nageboba, safiltre sadguri da<br />

wylis xarisxis kontrolis centraluri<br />

laboratoria moinaxules,<br />

sadac sasmeli wylis kontroli<br />

24-saaTian reJimSi mimdinareobs.<br />

maT, aseve, unikaluri<br />

mobiluri laboratoria daaTvalieres,<br />

romelic dRes regionis<br />

masStabiT erTaderTia. kompaniis<br />

mobilur laboratoriaSi adgilze<br />

Catarebuli kvlevebis sa-<br />

SualebiT arasawarmo da sawarmoo<br />

dawesebulebebidan wyalarinebis<br />

koleqtorSi Camdinare<br />

wylis kontroli xorcieldeba.<br />

stumrebma moinaxules: saguramos<br />

satumbo sadguri, nataxtris<br />

wyalSemkrebi nageboba, Jinvalis<br />

wyalsacavi da axali hidroeleqtrosadguri<br />

„saguramohesi”.<br />

„jorjian uoTer end faueris”<br />

28 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

Tumca sanam maT komentarebs SemogTavazebT,<br />

minda, mosaxleobis<br />

azri gagacnoT, romelic aqtiurad<br />

CaerTo am virtualur saprotesto<br />

aqciaSi. aRmoCnda, rom<br />

Tbilisis Zalian bevr ubanSi kompania<br />

GWP-s erTdroulad hqonda<br />

Sewyvetili wyalmomarageba.<br />

arada, cxel xazze da Semdgom am<br />

kompaniisa da meriis warmomadgenlebi<br />

komentarebSi gvarwmunebdnen,<br />

rom, Turme, vazisubanSi<br />

raRac dazianebula, mis gamosworebas<br />

cdilobdnen da wyali<br />

amis gamo ar mogvewodeboda. isic<br />

cnobilia, rom, wesiT, gegmuri<br />

samuSaoebi ubnebSi rigiTobiT<br />

sruldeba da ara erTbaSad. ase<br />

rom, tyuilSic ar uqnia RmerTs<br />

es xalxi. 6 Tebervals, TbilisSi,<br />

wyali ar miewodeboda: svaneTis<br />

ubans, kukias, vazisubans, varkeTils,<br />

mTawmindas, rusTavels, na-<br />

Zaladevs, samgors... rogorc gvi-<br />

Txres, am dRes wyali, aseve, ar<br />

hqonda da, saerTodac, SeferxebebiT<br />

miewodeboda didi diRmis<br />

mosaxleobas.<br />

ai, rogor gamoxatavda protests<br />

xalxi Tbilisis wyalmo-<br />

da batoni narmania!<br />

salome vardiaSvili<br />

mxridan meriis warmomadgenlebis<br />

vizits uZRvebodnen: arCil<br />

gaCeCilaZe _ GGU jgufis aRmasrulebeli<br />

direqtori; giorgi<br />

cxadaZe _ kompaniis generaluri<br />

direqtori; ekaterine beriZe _<br />

komunikaciisa da korporaciuli<br />

momsaxurebis direqtori; irakli<br />

babuxadia _ komerciuli direqtori;<br />

mamuka kikaliSvili _ operaciebis<br />

marTvis direqtori;<br />

Tamar nikuraZe _ centraluri<br />

laboratoriis ufrosi da kompaniis<br />

menejmentis warmomadgenlebi.<br />

vizitis mimdinareobisas „jorjian<br />

uoTer end faueris” xelmZRvanelebma,<br />

qalaqis merTan da<br />

meriis warmomadgenlebTan er-<br />

Tad, kompaniis samomavlo gegmebsa<br />

da sainvesticio proeqtebis<br />

umniSvnelovanes mimarTulebebze<br />

isaubres. kompania msgavs Sexvedrebs<br />

samomavlodac gaagrZelebs”.<br />

mokled, gadavwyvite, kompaniisa<br />

da meriis yuradReba mimeqcia,<br />

raTa sakuTari TavisTvisac da im<br />

ubnis mcxovreblebisTvisac meSvela,<br />

romelTac wyali xSirad da<br />

xangrZlivi droiT ar miewodebaT.<br />

socialuri qseliT yovel<br />

saaTSi aseT saprotesto postebs<br />

vaqveynebdi: „ar daviRlebi Tqvenze<br />

weriT! water & power & batoni<br />

narmania _ gamouSviT wyali vazisubanSi,<br />

an gavcvaloT sacxovreblebi.<br />

koki arc SemomTavazoT!”<br />

„vibareb boTlebs! wyali unda<br />

movimarago, roca mova”; „vazisubani<br />

iTxovs wyals! sanam water &<br />

power & narmanias mivadeqiT plakatebiT<br />

da sayvirebiT, gamouSvan<br />

wyali! Tu ar gamouSveben,<br />

waiRon dasarecxi WurWeli, damirecxon<br />

da a. S. damiTageT narmania!”<br />

„vazisubnis mcxovreblebi<br />

viTxovT: GWP & power & narmaniam<br />

gamouSvas wyali!” „ra teqnikas<br />

naxulobs narmania „jorjian<br />

uoTer end fauerSi”? vis ainteresebs<br />

magaTi teqnika, Tu wyali ar<br />

gveqneba? daviRaleeeeT!.. ramdeni<br />

saaTi modis wyali kviris ganmavlobaSi,<br />

TiTebze viTvli da<br />

TiTebi myofnis... me wyals vyidulob<br />

da egeni yidian, Tu ra<br />

xdeba? am kompaniis muSaobas vinme<br />

swavlobs, Tu sruli Tavisufleba<br />

aqvs miniWebuli? ris fasad<br />

xdeba es?” „diliT wyali ar<br />

wamova onkanidan da GWP & narmania,<br />

daelode mxarze kokaSemodgmul<br />

Tebroleebs! martivad<br />

ar dasruldeba es ambavi”. uwylod<br />

yofnis meore dRes, Ramis<br />

11 saaTze, ki davwere: „daiketa<br />

maRaziebi, dayides ukve, rac SeitaneT,<br />

gamouSviT wyali! vazisubanSi<br />

wyali axlac ar modis!”<br />

am saprotesto postma yvelaze<br />

metad gaamarTla, radgan komentarebis<br />

wera Sesabamisi samsaxurebis<br />

warmomadgenlebmac<br />

daiwyes da Tavdacvas Seecadnen.<br />

N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.<br />

maragebasTan dakavSirebiT:<br />

dea TavberiZe:<br />

_ rusTavelzec mTeli dRea,<br />

wyali ar gvaqvs.<br />

xaTuna nozaZe:<br />

_ samgoric mag dReSia...<br />

nona CekuraSvili:<br />

_ veris ubnis melodiebi! rasac<br />

wylis gamo vibrZvi am Zvirfas<br />

kompaniasTan, meriasTan da semek-<br />

Tan gadamamisamarTes! semeki<br />

akontrolebs am jigrebso!<br />

qeTi miqaZe:<br />

_ davitanje mec ukve, ra. Tu<br />

mova da ise ZafiviT modis, gamacxelebeli<br />

ar acxelebs! ici, ra<br />

mikvirs, dRes gegmuri gamorTva<br />

naZaladevsa da isanSia da Cven<br />

ratom vxvdebiT yvela gamorTva-<br />

Si? mesame masivis xalxma, aeroportis<br />

gzas gadavketavTo.<br />

rozeta gujejiani:<br />

_ arc svaneTis ubanSia da arc<br />

kukiaze.<br />

zaza svanaZe:<br />

_ marto vasizubanSi araa ase-<br />

Ti viTareba, raRac periodi varkeTilSi<br />

vcxovrobdi da iqac<br />

mase _ kviraSi erTi dRe mainc<br />

unda gadaeketaT wyali.<br />

qeTi doliZe:<br />

_ wyali ki maqvs, magram uamravi<br />

welia, es kompania mayaCaRebs.<br />

erTxel kargad movicli. 17<br />

welia, mama gardacvlilia da<br />

dRemde maxdevineben gadasaxads,<br />

adre orjer mivedi da miTxres,<br />

awi gamoswordeba eg ambavio da,<br />

aha. suladoba kvlav igivea. micvalebulze<br />

wylis gadasaxads maxdevineben,<br />

meti saocreba raRaa?!<br />

axla ki GWP-sa da meriis<br />

„damcvelTa” saubars gagacnobT,<br />

romlebic, rogorc SevityveT,<br />

maTi TanamSromlebi arian da,<br />

albaT, am dawesebulebebis azrs<br />

gamoxataven:<br />

TinaTin WuWulaSvili:<br />

_ mogesalmebiT, qalbatono<br />

neli, kompania GWP-is sainformacio<br />

centris TanamSromeli<br />

var. wyalmomargeba xval diliT<br />

10 saaTze aRdgeba. guSin, 5 ianvars,<br />

temperaturis mkveTri<br />

vardnis gamo, uridias quCaze,<br />

#183-Tan, 1200 mm-iani gvirabuli<br />

wyalsadeni avariulad dazianda.<br />

kompanias dauyovnebeli<br />

reagireba hqonda _ brigadebma,<br />

dazianebis aRmosafxvrelad,<br />

wyalmomaragebis SezRudvis gareSe<br />

ganaxorcieles mosamzadebeli<br />

samuSaoebi. dazianebis aRdgena<br />

magistraluri qselis wylisgan<br />

daclas moiTxovda. vinaidan<br />

4 km-iani gvirabuli wyalsadeni<br />

dazianda, qselis daclas didi<br />

dro dasWirda. informacia guSinve<br />

gavavrceleT.<br />

eka sreseli:<br />

_ meria arafer SuaSia, informacia<br />

wylis kompaniam dado.<br />

saremontoebia da zogierT ubans<br />

ar aqvs. milebs cvlian, didi<br />

`rekomendacias amjeradac aucileblad<br />

gavugzavniT kompanias. bolo periodSi mTel<br />

TbilisSi aris es problema da yvela ubnidan<br />

gvaqvs informaciebi. am Temaze ramdenime dRis<br />

win `jvp~ davibareT kidec da adgilze miveciT<br />

rekomendaciebi. vazisubnidan bevri gvwerda da<br />

xSirad SevaxsenebT `jvp~-s, rom mdgomareoba<br />

gamoasworon. migvaCnia, rom kompaniam uwyveti<br />

da saimedo momsaxureba unda SeZlos, rac,<br />

samwuxarod, ar xdeba. isic gvesmis, rom<br />

saremonto samuSaoebi aucilebelia, magram am<br />

samuSaoebis ganxorcielebiT gamowveuli<br />

diskomforti momxmareblebze minimalurad unda<br />

aisaxos. amitom Cveni rekomendaciaa, rom<br />

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xolme da iseT dros daigegmos, roca<br />

momxmarebelTa didi nawili saxlSi ar aris.<br />

avariuli SemTxvevebi ki minimalur droSi unda<br />

aRmoifxvras~<br />

dro undao. mikvirs, rom es informacia<br />

ver naxeT.<br />

_ kviraSi ramden dRes Sei-<br />

Zleba Catardes wylis saremonto<br />

samuSaoebi? ratom ar inter-<br />

esdeba meria? gaarkvieT da mix-<br />

vdebiT, rom wylis Sewyveta,<br />

realurad, saremonto samuSaoe-<br />

bis gamo ar xdeba da, xSirad,<br />

arsad arafers cvlian. roca<br />

qalaqis meri kompaniaSi midis da<br />

am kompaniis gamo xalxi cud<br />

dReSi imyofeba, minimum, is mainc<br />

xom unda ikiTxos, ra xdeba da<br />

xalxs pasuxi gasces! Tqven axla<br />

viRacas icavT, es, albaT, Tqve-<br />

ni misiaa, magram gifiqriaT, aseT<br />

dros rogor mdgomareobaSia<br />

korpusebSi gamoketili xalxi?<br />

gvirCieT, ra vqnaT?<br />

_ ra logika gaqvT? ver kiTxulobT,<br />

ras vwer? ra SuaSia aq dacva?<br />

es aris informacia, romelic<br />

gaasajaroes. darekeT cxel<br />

xazze, igives getyvian. kargad.<br />

Tbilisis wyliT momaragebas-<br />

Tan dakavSirebiT feisbuqze<br />

atexili aJiotaJis dros, ra Tqma<br />

unda, saxalxo damcveli, ombudsmeni<br />

uCa nanuaSvilic vaxseneT,<br />

Tumca igi verc virtualur samyaroSi<br />

aRmovaCineT.<br />

samagierod, energoombudsmeni<br />

salome vardiaSvili gamogvex-<br />

maura:<br />

_ rekomendacias amjeradac<br />

aucileblad gavugzavniT kompanias.<br />

bolo periodSi mTel TbilisSi<br />

aris es problema da yvela<br />

ubnidan gvaqvs informaciebi.<br />

am Temaze ramdenime dRis win<br />

„jvp” davibareT kidec da adgilze<br />

miveciT rekomendaciebi.<br />

vazisubnidan bevri gvwerda da<br />

xSirad SevaxsenebT „jvp”-s, rom<br />

mdgomareoba gamoasworon. migvaCnia,<br />

rom kompaniam uwyveti da<br />

saimedo momsaxureba unda SeZlos,<br />

rac, samwuxarod, ar xdeba.<br />

isic gvesmis, rom saremonto samuSaoebi<br />

aucilebelia, magram am<br />

samuSaoebis ganxorcielebiT<br />

gamowveuli diskomforti momxmareblebze<br />

minimalurad unda<br />

aisaxos. amitom Cveni rekomendaciaa,<br />

rom samuSaoebi maqsimalurad<br />

swrafad Sesruldes xolme<br />

da iseT dros daigegmos, roca<br />

momxmarebelTa didi nawili saxlSi<br />

ar aris. avariuli SemTxvevebi<br />

ki minimalur droSi unda aRmoifxvras.<br />

samwuxarod, 2016 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

Zalian didi ukmayofileba<br />

iyo „jvp”-s misamarTiT da absoluturad<br />

samarTlianad.<br />

esec Cven varT?! meriam axla<br />

mowmindos piri GWP-s _ wyals<br />

gegmurad wyvets, informaciebs<br />

ratom ar kiTxulobTo? informaciebs<br />

ki vkiTxulobT, Zvirfaso<br />

meria da meriis warmomadgenlebo,<br />

magram am informaciebis<br />

sandoobaSi ukve Zalian gvepareba<br />

eWvi. am eWvs ki, sxva situaciebTan<br />

erTad, Tbilisis meris cisferi<br />

xalaTiT kompaniaSi ucnauri<br />

sirbili da Tqveni kbilebiT<br />

dacvac gvimZafrebs.<br />

bolo dros, GWP-sTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT, aseTi informaciebic<br />

vrceldeba: wylis kompania GWP<br />

„bijeo jgufma” iyida. rom ar<br />

daibneT, es aris „saqarTvelos<br />

banki”, romelmac zedized SeiZina<br />

„farmadepo”, „jipisi”, flobs<br />

cnobil samSeneblo firma „em<br />

kvadrats” da a. S. es yvelaferi<br />

„bijeo jgufis” saxelis qveSaa<br />

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aseT sawarmoebs ar unda<br />

flobdeso.<br />

aRarc ki viciT, ra vifiqroT.<br />

faqti erTia: mdidrdebian, bobolebi<br />

xdebian, ucxoeTSi daseirnoben,<br />

ZviradRirebuli manqanebiT<br />

dadian, TviTmfrinavsa<br />

da sastumroebSi „hai klass” ir-<br />

Ceven, Svilebs sazRvargareT acxovreben<br />

da aswavlian, saxlebs<br />

evropaSi yiduloben, Sveicariis<br />

bankSi angariSebs xsnian, Zvirad-<br />

Rirebuli eqimi da wamali ar akliaT...<br />

es yvelaferi ki im xalxis<br />

xarjze, romelTac xelisufleba<br />

socialur daxmarebas uxsnis,<br />

sayovelTao dazRvevas umcirebs,<br />

wyals, gazs, eleqtroenergias,<br />

benzins uZvirebs, komerciuli<br />

bankebisa da kompaniebis sajijgnad<br />

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uspobs... da wlebia, mxolod ocnebiT<br />

acocxlebs.<br />

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doebas specialuri angariSi warudgina, romelSic „okupirebuli<br />

teritoriebis Sesaxeb” saqarTvelos kanonisa da praq-<br />

tikis analizi da rekomendaciebia Tavmoyrili. angariSi ok-<br />

upirebul teritoriebze Sesvlis, ekonomikuri saqmianobis, de<br />

faqto organoebis mier gacemuli dokumentebisa da adamianis<br />

uflebaTa dacvis TvalsazrisiT „okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />

Sesaxeb” kanonsa da praqtikaSi arsebul xarvezebsa da dab-<br />

rkolebebs mimoixilavs da maTi aRmofxvris gzebs miuTiTebs.<br />

30<br />

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angariSSi asaxuli saxalxo damcvelis<br />

rekomendaciebi mimarTulia<br />

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mcxovrebi an/da maTTan mWidro<br />

kavSiris mqone adamianebis uflebrivi<br />

mdgomareobis gaumjobesebisken;<br />

amasTan, sakiTxTa sensitiurobidan<br />

gamomdinare aucilebelia,<br />

sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebi<br />

Tu praqtika Sesabamisi samTavrobo<br />

uwyebebis sruli koordinacii-<br />

Ta da dainteresebul mxareebTan<br />

TanamSromlobiT SemuSavdes.<br />

saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom<br />

saqarTvelos mTavroba maqsimalurad<br />

unda uwyobdes xels okupirebul<br />

teritoriebze mcxovrebi<br />

adgilobrivi mosaxleobis uflebebisa<br />

da Tavisuflebebis dacvasa<br />

da socialuri da ekonomikuri<br />

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xelmisawvdomobis gaumjobesebas.<br />

Sesabamisad, saxalxo damcvelis<br />

azriT, saqarTvelom ufro moqnili<br />

unda gaxados okupirebul teritoriebze<br />

aralegaluri mimarTulebebidan<br />

Sesvlis wesi da ucxo<br />

qveynis moqalaqis, an moqalaqeobis<br />

armqone pirisTvis sasjelis<br />

zoma unda Semoifarglebodes administraciuli<br />

pasuxismgeblobiT,<br />

nacvlad amJamad moqmedi sisxlis<br />

samarTlis pasuxismgeblobisa:<br />

„praqtikis analiziT, Cans rom<br />

okupirebul teritoriebze Sesvlis<br />

wesis darRvevisTvis sasjeli<br />

mxolod im mcire nawils ekisreba,<br />

romelic Semdeg saqarTvelos mier<br />

kontrolirebad teritoriaze Semodis.<br />

amasTan, es SezRudva vrceldeba<br />

saerTaSoriso organizaciebze<br />

da maT TanamSromlebze, romlebic<br />

okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />

mosaxleobisTvis sasicocxlo<br />

mniSvnelobis saqmianobas ewevian”.<br />

saxalxo damcveli, aseve, miiCnevs,<br />

rom saqarTvelos evrokavSir-<br />

Tan asocirebis SeTanxmebisa da evrokavSirSi<br />

gawevrianebis miswrafebis<br />

Sesabamisad, mTavrobam unda<br />

SeimuSaos wamaxalisebeli samarTlebrivi<br />

da lojistikuri meqanizmi,<br />

maT Soris, gansxvavebuli sagadasaxado<br />

reJimi da gamoyos finansuri<br />

resursi, romelic saSualebas<br />

miscems okupirebul teritoriebze<br />

momuSave adgilobriv individualur<br />

mewarmeebs, mikro da<br />

mcire biznesebs, ganaviTaron ekonomikuri<br />

da savaWro urTierTobebi<br />

gamyofi xazis meore mxares moqmed<br />

biznesebTan da mewarmeebTan,<br />

erToblivi ekonomikuri saqmianobis<br />

ganxorcielebis mizniT:<br />

„okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />

mosaxleobas, gansakuTrebiT ki<br />

axal Taobas, sxva sabuTebi, garda<br />

aralegitimuri organoebis mier<br />

gacemuli dokumentebisa, ZiriTadad,<br />

ar gaaCnia. xolo, vinaidan, moqmedi<br />

kanonis mixedviT, aseTi dokumentebi<br />

aRar aris, maTTvis saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeobis dadgena<br />

da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis<br />

damadasturebeli dokumentebis<br />

miReba garTulebulia. amdenad,<br />

xelisuflebam unda Seimu-<br />

Saos efeqtiani meqanizmi, raTa okupirebul<br />

teritoriaze mcxovrebma<br />

pirebma martivad SeZlon saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeobis damadasturebeli<br />

mowmobisa da iuridiuli<br />

Zalis mqone dokumentebis mi-<br />

Reba, riTac Semdeg SeeZlebaT saxelmwifos<br />

mier SeTavazebuli servisebiT<br />

sargebloba”.<br />

saxalxo damcveli mzadyofnas<br />

gamoTqvams, aqtiuri monawileoba<br />

miiRos regulaciebisa da praqtikis<br />

Sesaxeb damatebiT ganxilvebSi<br />

da imedovnebs, rom misi rekomendaciebis<br />

safuZvelze moqmedi<br />

sakanonmdeblo normebi da maTi<br />

aRsruleba orientirebuli iqneba<br />

adamianis uflebaTa dacvasa da pativiscemaze.<br />

ombudsmenis am winadadebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT „qronika+” eqspert<br />

irakli cqitiSvils esaubreba:<br />

_ batono irakli, ra Sedegebs<br />

gamoiwvevs saxalxo damcvelis<br />

aRniSnuli rekomendaciebis Ses-<br />

ruleba?<br />

_ 2012 wels, xelisuflebis<br />

Secvlis Semdeg, periodulad gaismis<br />

mowodebebi, Seicvalos kanoni<br />

okupirebuli teritoriebis Sesaxeb.<br />

kanonproeqti pirveli mosmeni-<br />

Tac ki miiRo wina mowvevis parlamentma,<br />

magram misi Semdgomi ganxilva<br />

ar Sedga _ xalxma ver gaigo.<br />

amis Semdeg xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi<br />

da masTan daaxloebuli<br />

pirebi imave Tezisebs drodadro<br />

Semoagdeben xolme sazogadoebaSi,<br />

albaT, imis mosasinjad,<br />

xalxi mzadaa Tu ara jer aseTi radikaluri<br />

cvlilebisTvis.<br />

bolo dros, es misia ombudsmens<br />

akisria, romelic, jer kidev,<br />

arasamTavrobo seqtorSi yofnis<br />

dros Taobda qarTvelebis mxridan<br />

afxazebisTvis mobodiSebis aqcias.<br />

ase erqva am kampanias: „bodiSi”... da<br />

devnilTa nawils mwared axsovs es.<br />

rogorc Cans, SemTxveviT ar<br />

aurCeviaT uCa nanuaSvili am gegmebis<br />

gamxmovaneblad. garkveuli<br />

pirebi arasamTavrobo seqtorSi<br />

mxarsac ki ubamen, rom es poziciebi<br />

gaaZlieron. cdiloben, veneciis<br />

komisias daukavSiron isini da<br />

amiT moaxvion Tavs mosaxleobas,<br />

TiTqos, evrokavSirisa da evropuli<br />

struqturebis moTxovnaa.<br />

_ konkretulad, risi Secvla<br />

undaT?<br />

_ 1. okupirebul teritoriaze<br />

ukanono SesvlisTvis pirs daekisros<br />

mxolod administraciuli pa-<br />

saxalxo damcveli<br />

`okupirebuli<br />

teritoriebis<br />

Sesaxeb~ kanonis<br />

Serbilebas iTxovs<br />

`saqarTvelos<br />

xelisufleba<br />

orientirebulia,<br />

koWi gaugoros<br />

ruseTsa da evropas<br />

da srulebiT ar<br />

aris mowadinebuli,<br />

sakuTari interesebi<br />

daicvas yvela<br />

tribunaze, yvela<br />

sivrceSi~<br />

suxismgebloba.<br />

Tu saqarTvelo saxelmwifoa,<br />

mis yvela sazRvarze unda moqmedebdes<br />

erTnairi kanoni. magaliTad,<br />

Tu adamiani TurqeTis, azerbaijanis,<br />

somxeTis mxridan Semova ukanonod,<br />

mas, SeiZleba, sisxlis samarTlis<br />

pasuxismgebloba daekisros.<br />

ombudsmeni gvTavazobs, rom<br />

ruseTis mxridan ukanonod Semosul<br />

pirebze dawesdes SeRavaTi _<br />

daisajon mxolod administraciulad.<br />

ratom keTdeba aseTi SeRavaTebi<br />

ruseTis mxridan Cveni saz-<br />

Rvris darRvevaze? gana, ufro<br />

logikuri ar iqneboda, am _ Cvendami<br />

mtruli saxelmwifos _ sazRvrebze<br />

kontrolis reJimis ufro<br />

gamkacreba?! aseTi SeRavaTi gamoiwvevs<br />

mxolod sazRvris darRvevis,<br />

garkveulwilad, legalizebas,<br />

darRvevaTa ricxvis zrdas Tan ise,<br />

rom arc sasjelis SeeSindebaT.<br />

ombudsmenis rekomendaciis momxreebi<br />

(da, maT Soris, paata zaqareiSvili)<br />

acxadeben, rom es keTdeba<br />

imisTvis, raTa SemTxveviT moxvedrili<br />

adamianebi Zalian mkacrad<br />

ar daisajon. vnaxoT, vin Sedis<br />

am teritoriebze: pirvel rig-<br />

Si, ruseTis moqalaqeebi. SeiZleba,<br />

warmovidginoT is faqti, rom<br />

ruseTis moqalaqeebma ar ician,<br />

rom saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobas<br />

arRveven? nuTu, 25 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

maT ar gaugiaT am kanonis<br />

moqmedebis Sesaxeb? gamoricxulia.<br />

arian ukrainelebi, arian tajikebi<br />

da uzbekebi. Sua azielebs naklebad<br />

ainteresebT, sad ra kanoni<br />

moqmedebs, maT TavianTi gasaWiri<br />

aqvT _ afxazeTSi moxvedrilebi<br />

mere ruseTSi veRar brundebian,<br />

imitom, rom Sesabamisi vizebi ar<br />

uCa nanuaSvili<br />

aqvT.<br />

ase rom, saubari imaze, TiTqos,<br />

maT ar ician da unda vapatioT,<br />

gadaWarbebulia. ruseTis moqalaqeebis<br />

aseTi raodenobiT iq Casvla<br />

ekonomikurad aZlierebs separatistul<br />

reJimebs da maT swrafvas<br />

damoukideblobisken. swored<br />

amis winaaRmdeg aris mimarTuli<br />

dRes moqmedi kanonmdebloba.<br />

aqve minda vTqva, rom saubari<br />

„or ruseTze”, rom TiTqos ruse-<br />

Tis rigiTi moqalaqe arafer Sua-<br />

Sia, rogorme unda damTavrdes saqarTveloSi!<br />

mosaxleoba, romlis<br />

80% mxars uWers Tavis xelisuflebas,<br />

romelsac, Tavis mxriv,<br />

Cveni qveynis teritoriebi okupirebuli<br />

aqvs, iseTive pasuxismgebelia<br />

am okupaciaze, rogorc misi<br />

xelisufleba.<br />

aris kidev erTi ram, da, albaT,<br />

yvelaze mTavari _ qarTuli kanonmdebloba<br />

apriori ar iTvaliswinebs<br />

Tavisuflebis aRkveTas okupirebul<br />

teritoriaze ukanono<br />

SesvlisTvis. kanoni iTvaliswinebs<br />

jarimas, an Tavisuflebis aRkve-<br />

Tas. sasamarTlos prerogativaa,<br />

gansazRvros, romeli maTgani air-<br />

Cios. vfiqrob, moqmedi kanonmdeblobis<br />

pirobebSic sasamarTlos<br />

SeuZlia, maT, vinc „SemTxveviT moxvda”<br />

okupirebul teritoriaze,<br />

jarima daakisros. amisTvis kanonis<br />

Secvla ar aris saWiro. sasamarTlom,<br />

aseve, unda gadawyvitos,<br />

Caidina Tu ara damrRvevma sisxlis<br />

samarTlis danaSauli da am SemTxvevaSi<br />

ukve SeuZlia, Tavisufleba<br />

aRukveTos.<br />

gamomdinare zemoxsenebulidan,<br />

rekomendebuli cvlilebebi srulebiT<br />

ar Seesabameba im miznebs,<br />

romelTac safuZvlad udeben am<br />

cvlilebebis mxardmWerebi. am xelisuflebas<br />

sxva problema aqvs _<br />

kanonis aRsrulebis.<br />

rogorc iciT, gasul wlebSi,<br />

moqmedi xelisuflebis pirobebSi,<br />

araerTi adamiani imyofeboda saqarTveloSi,<br />

vinc mxilebulia okupirebuli<br />

teritoriebis Sesaxeb<br />

kanonis darRvevaSi. naTeli magaliTia<br />

italiuri musikaluri jgufi<br />

„riki&poveri”, romlis solistebs<br />

medlebic ki aqvT miRebuli<br />

cxinvalis saokupacio reJimisgan.<br />

Tumca saqarTveloSi isini ise SemouSves,<br />

rom krintis ki ar dau-<br />

ZravT. Tu saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />

pativs ar scems Tavis saxelmwifos<br />

da mis kanonebs, sxvas ra<br />

unda movTxovoT? problema is ki<br />

ar aris, ra sasjeli iqneba, problema<br />

qveyanaSi danaSaulze sasjelis<br />

gardauvlobis ararsebobaa.<br />

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mTavaria, rom kanonis damrRvevis<br />

mimarT gaimarTos sasamarTlo da<br />

sasamarTlom Tavisi ganaCeni gamoitanos,<br />

riTac yvelas mivaniSnebT,<br />

rom kanoni kanonobs. maT 100<br />

lars Tu 2000 lars gadavaxdevinebT<br />

_ meorexarisxovani problemaa.<br />

mTavari mainc danaSaulisTvis<br />

sasjelis gardauvlobaa da<br />

swored aq aqvs am xelisuflebas<br />

Cavardnebi. vfiqrob, es keTdeba<br />

Segnebulad, raTa xalxs uTxran _<br />

moqmedi kanoni ar muSaobs da is<br />

Sesacvleliao, rasac swored ombudsmenis<br />

xeliT akeTeben dRes.<br />

_ maS, ratom undaT kanonis<br />

Secvla, Tu es cvlilebebi<br />

qarTul interesebze srulebiT<br />

araa morgebuli?<br />

_ aq mxolod erTi daskvna modis<br />

azrad, _ ruseTis moTxovnebis<br />

dasakmayofileblad. ruseTi<br />

ukve didi xania, am kanonis Serbilebas,<br />

an, sulac, gauqmebas moiTxovs.<br />

misi interesi gasagebia _ sakuTar<br />

moqalaqeebs aacilos pasuxismgebloba<br />

okupirebul teritoriebze<br />

Sesvlis gamo. da Tu miaRwevs,<br />

misi moqalaqeebi ufro aqtiurad<br />

ivlian am teritoriebze ise,<br />

rom Semdeg ar moeridebian TbilisSi<br />

Camosvlas da aq „Zmoba-megobrobaze”<br />

sadRegrZeloebis Tqmas...<br />

rac sulac ar niSnavs, rom isini<br />

ewinaaRmdegebian saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriebis okupacias. ruseTis<br />

interesia, aseve, rom ruseTis politelitis<br />

warmomadgenlebs, romlebic<br />

xSiri stumrebi arian okupirebul<br />

teritoriebze, xeli ar<br />

SeeSaloT saqarTveloSi Camosvla-<br />

Si sxvadasxva miznebiT. da sad aris<br />

saqarTvelos interesi am SemTxvevaSi?<br />

_ rac Seexeba SeRavaTian saga-<br />

dasaxado reJims okupirebul<br />

teritoriaze momuSave mewarmee-<br />

bisTvis?<br />

_ es sakiTxi met gaSlas moiTxovs.<br />

sainteresoa, Tu rogori saxis<br />

mewarmeebs gulisxmobs da romeli<br />

qveynis? SeiZleba, SeRavaTi im<br />

mewarmeebs dauwesdes, romlebic<br />

qarTuli kanonmdeblobiT arian<br />

daregistrirebulni da gadasaxadebs<br />

saqarTvelos biujetSi ixdian.<br />

magram, am SemTxvevaSi, sxva<br />

problema warmoiqmneba _ sagadasaxado<br />

administrirebis. vin gaakontrolebs<br />

am mewarmeebis saqmianobas<br />

okupirebul teritoriaze?<br />

rogor aRiricxeba Cven mier ukontrolo<br />

regionebSi maTi biznesis<br />

brunva da rogor daibegreba igi?<br />

piradad veranair meqanizms ver<br />

vxedav amis gansaxorcieleblad.<br />

Sedegad miviRebT imas, rom moqmed<br />

qarTul ekonomikur sivrceSi Caebmebian<br />

adamianebi, romelTac okupirebul<br />

teritoriaze Sesvlis<br />

ufleba aqvT da romelTac legaluri<br />

biznesi aralegaluri operaciebisTvis<br />

gamoiyenebs, magali-<br />

Tad, gadasaxadebis zemoaRniSnuli<br />

SeRavaTebis damalvis mizniT. anu<br />

gveqneba erTi didi Savi xvreli,<br />

rogoric iyo, Tavis droze, ergne-<br />

Tis bazroba. axla masStabebi gacilebiT<br />

didi iqneba.<br />

_ Seexeba Tu ara aRniSnuli<br />

SeRavaTebi okupirebul terito-<br />

riebze moqmed rusul kompaniebs?<br />

_ ombudsmenis rekomendacia,<br />

albaT, gulisxmobs, rom rusul<br />

kompaniebs SeRavaTebi Seexeba, Tu<br />

isini saqarTvelos sistemaSi iqnebian<br />

registrirebulni. davuSvaT,<br />

asec moxda da rusuli kompania<br />

daregistrirda saqarTvelos arakontrolirebad<br />

teritoriaze Se-<br />

RavaTian sagadasaxado pirobebSi<br />

saqmianobis sawarmoeblad. vin gaakontrolebs<br />

rusul kompanias?!<br />

vin icis, ra operaciebs Caatarebs<br />

is iq?! da Tu SeRavaTi gulisxmobs,<br />

saerTod, nulovan ganakveTs, raTa<br />

misi administrireba ar moxdes,<br />

maSin miviRebT okupirebul teritoriaze<br />

rusuli kompaniebis<br />

saqmianobis legalizebas ise, rom<br />

amiT saqarTvelo verc ekonomikur<br />

da verc politikur xeirs miiRebs.<br />

maS, risTvis gvinda Cvendami mtrulad<br />

ganwyobili qveynis biznesisTvis<br />

xelSewyoba?<br />

ombudsmenis gulis tkivili<br />

adamianis uflebebis gamo okupirebul<br />

teritoriaze srulebiT<br />

gasagebia, magram mxolod im nawil-<br />

Si, sadac iqauri mcxovreblebi<br />

Tavad uCivian uflebebis darRevas.<br />

magaliTad, afxazebs rom uTxraT,<br />

Seni uflebebis dasacavad<br />

movdivaro, gaecinebaT... isini sulac<br />

ar uCivian TavianTi uflebebis<br />

darRvevas, yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />

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maT dacvas qarTul mxares sulac<br />

ar sTxoven.<br />

_ maS, ratom vTavazobT?<br />

_ gvgonia, rom amas dainaxaven,<br />

gaigeben da Serigebis procesi daiwyeba?<br />

Zalian Sors unda iyo iq<br />

arsebuli mdgomareobidan, ase miamiturad<br />

rom imsjelo. samwuxaroa,<br />

afxazebTan da osebTanac<br />

„Serigebis” procesSi qarTuli<br />

mxridan, TiTqmis, aravin monawileobs<br />

iseTi, vinc kargad icnobs maT<br />

jiSsa da jilags, da moxarSuli<br />

icis, ras warmoadgenen erTnic da<br />

meorenic (sxvaTa Soris, es iyo<br />

kidevac afxazebis moTxovna, rasac<br />

Cvenebi upirobod daeTanxmnen).<br />

is xalxi ki, vinc am proceseb-<br />

Sia dRes CarTuli, saerTod „tyemalze<br />

zis” da ase hgonia, rom evropul<br />

gamocdilebas Tu gadmoakopirebs,<br />

an evropul rekomendacias<br />

Tu gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad gamo-<br />

Cndeba sxvebis TvalSi. erTi ram<br />

unda gaviTvaliswinoT: evropuli<br />

rekomendacia kargia wasakiTxad da<br />

morgebulia evropeli adamianebis<br />

azrovnebaze, evropul realobaze,<br />

srulebiT sxva kulturis adamianebze,<br />

da yvelaze mTavari _ maTi<br />

mizani, xSirad, ara konfliqtebis<br />

saqarTvelos sasargeblod gadawyvetaa,<br />

aramed am konfliqtebis,<br />

rac SeiZleba, didxans gayinva,<br />

raTa saqarTvelo ar gaxdes maTi<br />

Tavis tkivili ukrainisa da siriis<br />

ambebTan erTan. ar iqneba ukraina<br />

da siria, sxva iqneba.<br />

evropa dainteresebulia, pirvel<br />

rigSi, rac SeiZleba naklebi<br />

safiqrali hqondes sxva teritoriebze<br />

da metad iyos orientirebuli<br />

sakuTar ekonomikur keTildReobaze.<br />

srulebiT gasagebi mizania:<br />

„jer Tavo”... magram Cven xom<br />

Cveni safiqrali gvaqvs da, pirvel<br />

rigSi, mxolod da mxolod, is rekomendaciebi<br />

unda gaviTvaliswinoT,<br />

romlebic sakuTari miznebis<br />

miRwevaSi dagvexmareba.<br />

saboloo jamSi, am rekomendaciebidan<br />

vigebT erT rames: saqarTvelos<br />

xelisufleba orientirebulia,<br />

koWi gaugoros ruseTsa<br />

da evropas da srulebiT ar aris<br />

mowadinebuli, sakuTari interesebi<br />

daicvas yvela tribunaze, yvela<br />

sivrceSi.<br />

afxazebis am bolo dros gaxSirebuli<br />

voiaJebi evropisa da amerikis<br />

sxvadasxva gamofenaze amas<br />

adasturebs. imis magivrad, rom<br />

prevenciaze imuSaon, Cveni diplomatiuri<br />

korpusi winaswar emzadebodes<br />

yvela gamofenisTvis monawileTa<br />

siebis gamoTxoviT da afxazebis<br />

monawileobis SemTxvevaSi<br />

ufro adre reagirebisTvis, vidre<br />

isini ukve iqnebian warmodgenili<br />

am gamofenebze, samwuxarod, reagireba<br />

gviwevs mas mere, rac es ambavi<br />

mediaSi gaJRerdeba. es niSnavs<br />

erT rames _ okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />

sakiTxi ar aris sagareo<br />

saqmeTa saministros nomer pirveli<br />

amocana.<br />

_ gaiziarebs Tu ara xelisufleba<br />

ombudsmenis rekomendacie-<br />

bs?<br />

_ am etapze sruliad erTmniSvnelovnad<br />

SegviZlia amaze gipasuxoT,<br />

_ gaiziarebs. metic, es winadadebebi<br />

momzadebulia xelisuflebaSi,<br />

an „ufro zeviT” da zaqareiSvili<br />

da nanuaSvili mxolod<br />

gamxmovaneblebad gvevlinebian. sakiTxavia,<br />

SeZlebs Tu ara xelisufleba<br />

am cvlilebebis miRebas?<br />

gaCumdeba sazogadoeba am umsgavsobaze<br />

iseve, rogorc bevr sxva<br />

rameze dums? jerjerobiT, „tvinis<br />

gamorecxvis” process vxedavT,<br />

rodesac periodulobiT Semoagdeben<br />

am cvlilebebs da sazogadoebis<br />

reaqcias akvirdebian. albaT,<br />

elodebian, rodis etyvis sazogadoeba,<br />

_ kiserimc gitexiaTo...<br />

qarTuli xelisuflebis politika<br />

okupirebul teritoriebTan<br />

mimarTebiT unda gaaqtiurdes<br />

saerTaSoriso arenaze. am Temaze<br />

saerTaSoriso warmomadgenlebTan<br />

`samwuxaroa, afxazebTan da osebTanac `Serigebis~ procesSi qarTuli<br />

mxridan, TiTqmis, aravin monawileobs iseTi, vinc kargad icnobs maT jiSsa<br />

da jilags, da moxarSuli icis, ras warmoadgenen erTnic da meorenic<br />

(sxvaTa Soris, es iyo kidevac afxazebis moTxovna, rasac Cvenebi upirobod<br />

daeTanxmnen). is xalxi ki, vinc am procesebSia dRes CarTuli, saerTod<br />

`tyemalze zis~ da ase hgonia, rom evropul gamocdilebas Tu<br />

gadmoakopirebs, an evropul rekomendacias Tu gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad<br />

gamoCndeba sxvebis TvalSi~<br />

meti komunikacia unda iyos, es<br />

Temebi maRali tribunebidan unda<br />

JRerdebos da ara ise, rogorc<br />

morigi raRac gancxadeba, romelsac<br />

Cveni bolo drois premierebi<br />

akeTebdnen da naxevar saaTSi aravis<br />

axsovda, raze iyo saubari. Tu<br />

maT gamosvlaze saerTaSoriso media<br />

dums, CaTvaleT, rom araferi<br />

uTqvamT. amitom Cveni okupirebuli<br />

teritoriebis Tematika saer-<br />

TaSoriso mediaSi unda dabrundes.<br />

yvelgan, sadac ukrainuli sakiTxi<br />

wamoiWreba da saubari iqneba yirimis<br />

aneqsiasa da donbasis okupaciaze,<br />

iqve unda JRerdes afxaze-<br />

Ti da cxinvalis regioni. sagareo<br />

saqmeTa saministro met koordinaciaSi<br />

unda iyos am sakiTxebSi ukrainul<br />

mxaresTan, raTa erTiani<br />

frontiT gamovideT okupantis<br />

winaaRmdeg. es unda iyos kargad<br />

gaazrebuli da erTiani Seteva<br />

politikuri frontis yvela xazze.<br />

meore sakiTxi, rasac vurCevdi<br />

xelisuflebas, da zemoTac avRniSne<br />

_ prevenciaze muSaobaa. afxazur<br />

Tu osur marionetul re-<br />

Jimebs TavianTi fsevdodamoukideblobis<br />

propagandis saSualeba ar<br />

unda mivceT saerTaSoriso arenaze.<br />

amisTvis saWiroa, rom yvela<br />

saelCo mudmivad iyos saqmis kurs-<br />

Si, Tu ra RonisZiebebi tardeba<br />

maTi ganTavsebis qveynebSi. mudmivad<br />

unda adevnon Tvali monawileebs<br />

da reagireba moaxdinon sa-<br />

Wiroebis SemTxvevaSi. Cven ar unda<br />

vigebdeT, rom separatistebma aqa<br />

Tu iq TavianTi Tavis reklama gaakeTes,<br />

es ZirSive unda aRikveTos.<br />

piriqiT, unda gvikvirdes, ratom<br />

ar Canan... magram amas muSaoba sWirdeba<br />

da ara Sopingebze siaruli.<br />

aucilebelia, rom yoveli saer-<br />

TaSoriso Sexvedris Semdeg sruli<br />

moculobiT gaJRerdes Sexvedris<br />

Sedegebi (is, rac iTqmis). rusul<br />

mxaresTan Sexvedrebis Sinaarsi mosaxleobisTvis<br />

ar unda iyos saidumlo,<br />

miT umetes, xelSekrulebebi<br />

da SeTanxmebebi. yoveli aseTi<br />

Sexvedris Semdeg, ratomRac, swored<br />

rusuli mxare avrcelebs pirvelad<br />

informacias da Taviseburad<br />

awvdis medias Sinaarss, qarTul<br />

mxares ki ukve reagireba uwevs.<br />

cnobilia, rom pirveli informacia<br />

yvelaze mniSvnelovania, rame-<br />

Tu Tavidanve uyalibebs mkiTxvel-<br />

sa da msmenels azris mimarTulebas,<br />

xolo Semdgom informaciebs<br />

is ukve swored am Camoyalibebuli<br />

azris WrilSi ganixilavs da aRiqvams.<br />

maS, ratom iZleva Cveni sagareo<br />

saqmeTa saministro informacias<br />

yovelTvis dagvianebiT? aq saubaria<br />

rusuli informaciuli propagandis<br />

mier sakuTari kliSeebis<br />

Tavsmoxvevis prevenciaze. ratom<br />

ar SeiZleba, am Sexvedris dasrulebisTanave<br />

gakeTdes gancxadebebi,<br />

romlebic, iqneb, mTavar Tezisebs<br />

moicavdes, xolo maTi ufro Rrma<br />

analizis mowodeba da detaluri<br />

axsna-ganmarteba cota mogvianebi-<br />

Tac SeiZleba.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom saqarTvelos<br />

Sss gvimtkicebs, rom okupaciis<br />

xazi srulad kontroldeba,<br />

yovel kvira itaceben Cvens moqalaqeebs<br />

saokupacio xazidan. „fici<br />

mwams, bolo makvirvebso”. saWiroa<br />

saokupacio xazis srulad gakontroleba,<br />

raTa mis mimdebare soflebSi<br />

mcxovrebma saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeebma daculad igrZnon<br />

Tavi _ rusebis, an osebis arasanqcirebuli<br />

moqmedebis SemTxvevaSi<br />

mkacri reagireba da ara Tavis mar-<br />

Tleba da okupantebis namoqmedaris<br />

„gapraveba”.<br />

rogorc im SemTxvevaSi iyo,<br />

rodesac „sazRvris” aRmniSvneli<br />

baneri gadmoswies, xelisufleba ki<br />

gvicxadebda, araferi moxdao, maT<br />

mxolod sabWoTa rukebiT ixelm-<br />

ZRvaneles da samxreT oseTis sazRvari<br />

gaasworeso. gveyo dacinva,<br />

gveyo sxvis interesebze (afxazebze,<br />

osebze, rusebze, evropelebze)<br />

fiqri da zrunva, yoveli mtkaveli<br />

unda davicvaT, yoveli Cveni<br />

adamiani da ar veZeboT sakuTari<br />

uunarobis gamamarTlebeli sabu-<br />

Ti.<br />

aucilebelia, rom xelisuflebam<br />

adekvaturi midgoma SeimuSaos<br />

devnilebis mimarT. magaliTad, is<br />

faqti, rom afxazebs ufasod mkurnaloben<br />

saqarTvelos klinikebSi,<br />

xolo devnilebs Cveulebriv uxdebaT<br />

safasuris gadaxda da Tanxebis<br />

uqonlobis gamo bevri iRupeba<br />

ise, rom Tvalsac veRarasdros<br />

Seavlebs mowyurebul afxazeTis<br />

miwas, maTTvis seriozuli problemaa.<br />

maT esmiT am politikuri nabijis<br />

mniSvneloba, magram ar esmiT,<br />

ratom epyroba maT Tavad xelisufali<br />

ise, TiTqos ucxoni iyvnen,<br />

TiTqos maT naklebad uWirdeT,<br />

TiTqos ar iyvnen erTiani qarTuli<br />

sazogadoebis nawili?!! amis magivrad<br />

aJRereben iseT iniciativebs,<br />

romelic mimarTulia maTi<br />

yofis gauaresebaze, maTTvis statusis<br />

SeCerebaze, an statusTan<br />

mibmuli Semweobis gauqmebaze da<br />

ase Semdeg.<br />

aseT pirobebSi devnili mosaxleoba<br />

erTxelac gailaSqrebs am<br />

xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg misi<br />

„afxazebTan da osebTan Serigebis”<br />

politikis gamo, romlis msxverpli<br />

isev devnilebi xdebian.<br />

teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdgenis<br />

saparalmento droebiTi komisia<br />

saerTodac umoqmedoa. adre,<br />

rodesac komisias batoni malaSxia<br />

xelmZRvanelobda, Zalian bevri<br />

ram keTdeboda am komisiis farglebSi<br />

okupaciis sawinaaRmdego<br />

politikis farglebSi. axali xelisuflebis<br />

pirobebSi am komisiam<br />

srulebiT dakarga Tavisi funqcia<br />

da iqca xelisuflebis uazro iniciativebis<br />

legalizebis meqanizmad.<br />

aucilebelia, es organo ufro<br />

aqtiuri da saqmiani gaxdes, mowydes<br />

Cveul saparlamento-sakabineto<br />

muSaobas da konkretuli iniciativebis<br />

generatorad gadaiqces.<br />

31

lisuflebasac _ maSin faseulobaTa<br />

ierarqia, faqtobriv, ar arsebobs<br />

da sazogadoebis yuradReba,<br />

upiratesad, gadatanilia meore-mesamexarisxovan<br />

sakiTxebze,<br />

pirvelxarisxovani ki ganzea gaweuli.<br />

getyviT, ras vgulisxmob,<br />

rom mentalurad da cnobierad<br />

saxelmwifoebrivi cnobierebiT ar<br />

varT Camoyalibebuli. ai, magali-<br />

Tad: wlebia, ganxilvis prioritetuli<br />

Temaa faruli mosmenebis<br />

(TvalTvali) problema, rac bolo<br />

periodSi kidev ufro gaaqtiurda.<br />

ukve gamoikveTa, rom Sei-<br />

Zleba Camoyalibdes saagento, axali<br />

saxelmwifo dawesebuleba,<br />

romelic amas mouvlis, mis xelSi<br />

iqneba raRac „gasaRebi” da a. S. gekiTxebiT,<br />

ra ufro mniSvnelovania<br />

saxelmwifosTvis, mosmenebi<br />

Tu saxelmwifo ena?<br />

am SemTxvevaSi gamodis, rom<br />

mosmenebi!..<br />

ukacravad da „WuWyiani” mosmenebisTvis,<br />

Turme, fulic arsebobs,<br />

saagentos (Sesaferisi terminia!)<br />

Seqmnis SesaZleblobac, sazogadoebis<br />

yuradRebis arenazec<br />

is unda iyos. xolo am dros wmidaTawmida<br />

saxelmwifo enisTvis<br />

arc erTi arsebobs, arc _ meore<br />

da arc _ mesame. es, bunebrivia,<br />

gamrudebaa, cnobierebis gadaxraa<br />

imitom, rom saxelmwifo enaze<br />

maRla, saxelmwifos garda, sxva<br />

araferi arsebobs. saxelmwifo ena<br />

aris saxelmwifos pirveli mdgeneli<br />

(ara mxolod Semadgeneli), anu<br />

is, rac qmnis saxelmwifos. enobrivi<br />

sakiTxi mTavari gamaerTianebelia,<br />

Cveni saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

identobis (erovnuli identobis,<br />

TavisTavad) mTavari konstruqtori<br />

aris saxelmwifo ena da rog-<br />

saqarTvelos merve mowvevis parlamentma 2015 wlis 22 ivliss<br />

miiRo kanoni „saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb”, romlis normaTa umete-<br />

si nawili 2016 wlis 1-li ianvridan, danarCeni ki imave wlis 1-li<br />

Tebervlidan unda amoqmedebuliyo. kerZod, kanonis safuZvelze,<br />

specialuri mizniT, unda Seqmniliyo „saxelmwifo enis departa-<br />

menti” _ sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli piri, romelsac 2016 wlis<br />

1-li Tebervlidan unda daewyo funqcionireba, departamentis<br />

wardginebiT ki saqarTvelos mTavrobas 2016 wlis 14 aprilamde<br />

unda daemtkicebina qarTuli saliteraturo enis normebi da<br />

teqnologiuri standartebi, romelTa dacvac savaldebuloa.<br />

32<br />

Tamar oTiaSvili<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

saxelmwifo enis departamentis<br />

debulebasa da struqturaze saqarTvelos<br />

mTavrobas unda ezruna,<br />

misi Tavmjdomare ki premier-ministrs<br />

unda daeniSna. mas Semdeg<br />

weliwadze meti gavida, magram, samwuxarod,<br />

kanonSi gawerili vadis<br />

miuxedavad, arc saxelmwifo enis<br />

departamenti Seqmnila da premier-ministrsac<br />

aravin dauniSnavs<br />

departamentis Tavmjdomared.<br />

ratom ar xerxdeba kanonis aRsruleba?<br />

ra problemebis gamo<br />

dairRva parlamentis mier gawerili<br />

vada? isev dgas Tu ara dRis<br />

wesrigSi saxelmwifo enis depatamentis<br />

Seqmnis sakiTxi, romlis<br />

uSualo regulirebis sfero enis<br />

normebis dacva da enis gamdidreba<br />

iqneba? igi xom, rogorc kanon-<br />

Si vkiTxulobT, „aris saxelmwifo<br />

enis konstituciuri statusis<br />

dacvisa da popularizaciis, qarTuli<br />

saliteraturo enis normebisa<br />

da specialur terminTa<br />

dadgenisa da damkvidrebis uzrunvelmyofi<br />

da saxelmwifo enis er-<br />

Tiani politikis ganmaxorcielebeli<br />

organo”?<br />

rogorc saqarTvelos parlamentis<br />

ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa<br />

da kulturis komitetis Tavmjdomare<br />

mariam jaSi acxadebs, „samwuxarod,<br />

2016 wels, jerjerobiT,<br />

misTvis ucnobi mizezebiT, aRniSnuli<br />

departamenti ver dakompleqtda<br />

da ver Camoyalibda”. piradad<br />

mas ki axla, aRniSnul sakiTxTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, konsultaciebi<br />

aqvs dawyebuli rogorc saqar-<br />

Tvelos mTavrobis administraciasTan,<br />

aseve ganaTlebis sistemisa<br />

da parlamentis xelmZRvanelobasTan:<br />

„didi imedi maqvs, am sakiTxTan<br />

dakavSirebiT Tebervlis<br />

bolomde gveqneba Camoyalibebuli<br />

samomavlo gegma da xedva”, _<br />

ambobs qalbatoni mariami.<br />

e. i. SeiZleba vifiqroT, rom<br />

saxelmwifo enis departamentis<br />

Seqmnis sakiTxi kvlav dgas dRis<br />

wesrigSi, Tebervlis bolomde didi<br />

dro ar rCeba da vnaxoT, rogor<br />

ganviTardeba movlenebi. magram<br />

manamde, Tundac qalbatoni<br />

mariamisTvis „jerjerobiT ucnob<br />

mizezebze” (sazogadoebisTvis,<br />

miT umetes) sasaubrod, „qronika+”-ma<br />

gadawyvita, merve mowvevis<br />

parlamentis ganaTlebis, mecnierebisa<br />

da kulturis komitetis<br />

TavmjdomarisTvis, batoni ivane<br />

kiRuraZisTvis miemarTa. mizezebi<br />

masze ukeTesad vin unda icodes,<br />

magram, samwuxarod, SekiTxvas rom<br />

Tavi davaneboT, „saxelmwifo enis<br />

departamenti” bolomde naTqvamic<br />

ar gvqonda, rom batonma vanom<br />

komentarze uari gangvicxada. albaT,<br />

qalbatoni mariami konsultaciebis<br />

paralelurad mizezebis<br />

garkvevas baton vanosTanac Seecdeba<br />

da amas sazogadoebasac amcnobs,<br />

Tavad mas ki qarTuli enis<br />

udidesi qomagi, filologiis mecnierebaTa<br />

doqtori, enaTmecnieri<br />

levan Rvinjilia, sajarod, socialur<br />

qselSi usvams SekiTxvas:<br />

„qalbatono mariam!<br />

„gegma da xedva” ki ara, parlamentis<br />

mier damtkicebuli kanoni<br />

gidevT win, romelSic es yvelaferi<br />

ukve gaTvaliswinebuli da<br />

gawerilia.<br />

samwuxarod, saqarTvelos premier-ministri<br />

ukve meore welia<br />

(2015 wlis 22 ivlisidan), xsenebul<br />

kanons samuSao magidis ujra-<br />

Si „amwnilebs” da parlamentis<br />

dadgenilebas ar asrulebs.<br />

_ xom ver metyviT, ra hqvia Tanamdebobis<br />

pirs, romelic kanons<br />

arRvevs?!!”<br />

***<br />

mokled, kanoni irRveva da, am<br />

etapisTvis, pasuxi, Tu rodis<br />

daarsdeba, an daarsdeba Tu ara<br />

„saxelmwifo enis departamenti”<br />

da igi qveynis sakeTildReod amuSavdeba,<br />

jerjerobiT, horizontze<br />

ar Cans. vnaxoT, mTavrobis<br />

administraciasTan, parlamentTan<br />

da ganaTlebis sistemasTan konsultaciebis<br />

Sedegad Tebervlis bolosTvis<br />

ra „samomavlo gegmasa da<br />

xedvaze” isaubrebs qalbatoni<br />

mariami?.. faqtia, rom qarTul<br />

enas namdvilad sWirdeba dacva da<br />

qveynis xelisuflebis winasaar-<br />

Cevno dapirebebSic erT-erTi ZiriTadi<br />

prioriteti swored qarTuli<br />

enis dacva da misi sakanonmdeblo<br />

uzrunvelyofa iyo. kanoni<br />

miiRes, Sedegi ki... rodemde?!<br />

Cveni qveynis enobriv mdgomar-<br />

eobasa da saxelmwifo enis dacvis<br />

sakiTxebze „qronika+”-s esaubre-<br />

ba enaTmecnieri, filologiis<br />

mecnierebaTa doqtori, profe-<br />

sori avTandil arabuli:<br />

_ batono avTandil, wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi kanonis „saxelm-<br />

wifo enis Sesaxeb” miReba ar Tu<br />

ver xerxdeboda. daaxloebiT ori<br />

wlis winaT es SesaZlebeli gaxda<br />

_ kanoni miRebulia, magram, faq-<br />

tobrivad, igi ar aRsrulda, ar<br />

Seiqmna „saxelmwifo enis depar-<br />

tamenti”, romelsac, realurad,<br />

qarTuli ena unda daecva da mis<br />

ganviTareba-gamdidrebaze ezruna...<br />

Tqveni azriT, kanonis aR-<br />

srulebas ra uSlis xels?<br />

_ es „saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb”<br />

kanonis miRebis meoTxe cda iyo.<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

damoukideblobis aRdgenis Semdeg<br />

Cven iZulebulic (moskovidan<br />

veRar movidoda esa Tu is davaleba!)<br />

gavxdiT da valdebulic, rom<br />

ukve damoukidebel saxelmwifos<br />

ezruna im faseulobebis dafasebaze,<br />

rac saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

gamoxatuleba iyo. magram kanonis<br />

SemuSavebis pirveli cda, jer<br />

kidev, 1989 wels gvqonda. me Senaxuli<br />

maqvs 1989 wlis samgverdiani,<br />

raRac saxiT ukve Camoyalibebuli<br />

kanonis proeqti, romelsac maSin<br />

baltiispireTis respublikebis<br />

gamocdilebis mixedviT vakeTebdiT.<br />

isini win iyvnen damoukideblobisTvis<br />

brZolaSi, 1988-1989<br />

wlebSi miiRes pirveli kanonebi<br />

saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb, rac ma-<br />

Sin samagaliTo precedentad Canda<br />

sabWour sivrceSi da Cvenc vemzadebodiT<br />

amisTvis... magram<br />

avTandil arabuli:<br />

`Cvens<br />

sinamdvileSi<br />

saxelmwifo<br />

enis politika<br />

ar arsebobs~<br />

qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis bedi<br />

ase waRmarTad ar warimarTa!<br />

mogexsenebaT, 90-ian wlebSi rac<br />

moxda da viRas axsovda saxelmwifo<br />

enis kanoni, Tavdayira dadga<br />

qveyana, samoqalaqo omi, sagareo<br />

omi, saomari dapirispireba ruse-<br />

TTan da ase Semdeg... mere, rogorc<br />

ki situacia cota dalagda, 1993<br />

wlidan, xelaxla daiwyo muSaoba<br />

am kanonis SesamuSaveblad. Cven ar<br />

varT monoeTnikuri saxelmwifo,<br />

amitomac aSkarad igrZnoboda,<br />

rom saxelmwifo enis konstituciuri<br />

statusi imgvarad unda daregulirebuliyo,<br />

rom winaaRmdegobebi<br />

moexsna axali sistemis formirebis<br />

mtkivneul procesSi.<br />

saxelmwifo enis kanonis, saxelmwifo<br />

enis politikis dalageba arsebiTi<br />

sakiTxia saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

Camoyalibebisa. didxans da<br />

daZabulad vmuSaobdiT maSin, gaWianurebuli<br />

krizisis pirobebSi.<br />

samuSao procesSi aqtiurad iyo<br />

CarTuli enaTmecnierebis instituti,<br />

aseve iusticiis saministro,<br />

samecniero wreebi da kanonma garkveuli<br />

saxe miiRo. magram maSin<br />

iseTi „aWrili” saSinao viTareba<br />

iyo, Zalian advilad xdeboda sazogadoebrivi<br />

SfoTis provocireba;<br />

gamocdilma provokatorebma<br />

moaxerxes, rom erovnuli umciresobebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi Tu<br />

maTi interesebi daepirispirebinaT<br />

da kanonproeqtis parlamentamde<br />

mitanac ar moxerxda... es<br />

iyo meore cda. aqve minda, xazi gavusva<br />

erT kanonzomierebas: aSkarad<br />

gamoCnda, saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

krizisi pirdapir iyo dakavSirebuli<br />

enobrivi problemis mogvarebis<br />

„uunarobasTan”. niSandoblivia:<br />

Tu saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

TvalsazrisiT raRac aewyoboda,<br />

saxelmwifo enis statusis gansaz-<br />

Rvris, misi funqcionirebis areebis,<br />

saarsebo sivrcis moxazvisa da<br />

a. S. aucilebloba maSinve Cndeboda,<br />

magram rogorc ki krizisi iwyeboda,<br />

es sakiTxi arenidan imitom<br />

qreboda, rom ufro „mniSvnelovani”<br />

krizisuli problemebi iwevda<br />

wina planze.<br />

Semdegi etapi 2000-iani wlebis<br />

„misadgomebs” ukavSirdeba, roca<br />

raRac sakiTxebi, ase Tu ise, dalagda.<br />

1997 wels saxelmwifo enis<br />

palata Seiqmna, romelic enis kanonis<br />

momzadebas Caudga saTaveSi,<br />

Zalian seriozuli samuSaoebi<br />

Catarda da 2002 wlisTvis saxelmwifo<br />

enis kanoni, faqtobrivad, ma-<br />

Rali standartebiT momzadda.<br />

parlamentSi unda dawyebuliyo<br />

kidec am kanonproeqtis ganxilva,<br />

magram kvlav Sida dapirispirebam<br />

iCina Tavi (sxvaTa Soris, Cveni er-<br />

Ti problema isic aris, rom,<br />

„ratomRac”, swored strategiuli<br />

mniSvnelobis sakiTxebze ar xerxdeba<br />

Tanxmoba). seriozuli provokaciis<br />

suni igrZnoboda da institutma<br />

da universitetma erTdroulad<br />

mimarTa parlaments,<br />

rom saxelmwifo enis kanonproeqtis<br />

ganxilva droebiT gadadebuliyo.<br />

male qveynis saTaveSi axali xelisufleba<br />

movida da kanoni<br />

saerTod gaitana parlamentidan;<br />

saxelmwifo enis palata da, metic,<br />

yvela institucia gaauqmes,<br />

rac ki arsebobda. erTaderTi instituti,<br />

romelic saxelmwifo<br />

enis, ase vTqvaT, modarajed dar-<br />

Ca, enaTmecnierebis institutia,<br />

romelic dRemde, Tu SeiZleba ase<br />

iTqvas, kbilebiT aris SenarCunebuli,<br />

risi safuZvelic is gansakuTrebuli<br />

funqciaa, romelic<br />

mas istoriam daakisra...<br />

2012 wlis Semdeg isev daviwyeT<br />

saxelmwifo enis kanonze fiqri.<br />

saqarTvelos mecnierebaTa erovnuli<br />

akademiis iniciativiT specialuri<br />

jgufi Seiqmna Zalian<br />

avtoritetuli mecnierebis warmomadgenlobiT<br />

da parlaments am<br />

kanonproeqtis kidev erTi gadamuSavebuli<br />

varianti SevTavazeT.<br />

Sesabamisi komiteti, TiTqmis, orweliwadnaxevari<br />

„aWaSnikebda”<br />

parlamentSi am proeqts da, bolos,<br />

2015 wlis 22 ivliss, kanoni<br />

miiRo saxelmwifo enis Sesaxeb (minda,<br />

xazi gavusva, rom kanoni erTxmad<br />

miiRes).<br />

_ barem, isic vTqvaT, vin<br />

ibrZoda kanonis miRebis winaaRm-<br />

deg?<br />

_ Cveni mezoblis Zveli agentura,<br />

romelic yovelTvis ewinaaRmdegeba<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifod<br />

Sedgomas (raTa is mere evropas<br />

miaweros): wvrilmani biurokratia,<br />

romelic yovelgvar mowesrigebaSi<br />

sakuTari interesebis<br />

sazianos xedavs; „uCemod viT imRereTa...”<br />

kategoriis inteligencia;<br />

am etapze „inkognito” jgufebi<br />

ewinaaRmdegebian departamentis<br />

Seqmnas.<br />

unda iTqvas, rom procesis aRniSnuli<br />

gaWianurebac saxelmwifoebriobis<br />

krizisis gamoxatulebaa.<br />

roca saxelmwifoebrivi cnobiereba<br />

Camoyalibebuli ar aris _<br />

es exeba sazogadoebasac da xe-<br />

32 N5 (182) 14.02-20.02.2017 w.

or SeiZleba, rom Cven aTwleulebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi da bolo periodSi<br />

gansakuTrebiT, roca evropuli<br />

sivrcis pirobebis miRebas<br />

vapirebT, amaze vambobdeT<br />

uars?! evropuli kultura swored<br />

is aris, rom saxelmwifo enas<br />

Tavisi adgili hqondes. romel<br />

ganviTarebul, an Tavmoyvare ganviTarebad<br />

qveyanaSic ar unda SexvideT,<br />

pirvelive nabijis gadadgmisas<br />

igrZnobT, rom iq saxelmwifo<br />

enas sakuTari adgili aqvs<br />

mikuTvnebuli gansazRvruli wesebiT,<br />

funqcionirebis sivrce aqvs<br />

moxazuli da mTlianobaSi im sivrceSia<br />

gabatonebuli. bunebrivia,<br />

amas ver vityviT saqarTveloze,<br />

Cvens sinamdvileSi ki, faqtobriv,<br />

saxelmwifo enis politika ar arsebobs!<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” saarCevno<br />

programaSi Sedioda sakiTxebi,<br />

romlebic namdvilad faseuloba-<br />

Ta wina planzea, maT Soris, saxelmwifo<br />

enis daregulirebis sakiTxi<br />

da biZina ivaniSvili, Semdeg<br />

irakli RaribaSvili da axali premieri<br />

giorgi kvirikaSvilic aRiareben<br />

saxelmwifo enis kanonisa<br />

da saxelmwifo enis dacvis aucileblobas,<br />

magram, realurad, nabijis<br />

gadadgma ar xerxdeba, rac<br />

samwuxaroa. struqturas ra erqmeva,<br />

es ki ar aris arsebiTi (sxvadasxva<br />

saxelmwifoSi sxvadasxvanairi<br />

struqtura Seqmnila saamisod),<br />

mTavaria, rom kanonis ganxorcielebis<br />

makontrolebeli saxelmwifo<br />

struqtura arsebobdes (da<br />

es asec gansazRvra miRebulma<br />

kanonma). zogi saqmeSi Cauxedavi<br />

ambobs: xom arsebobs enaTmecnierebis<br />

instituti, xom swavlobs<br />

saxelmwifo enas? ra Tqma unda,<br />

Seiswavlis mecnierulad, enis ganviTarebis<br />

kanonebsa da wesebsac<br />

SeimuSavebs, magram am kanonebs<br />

verc daamtkicebs da verc danergavs.<br />

mas makontrolebeli funqcia<br />

ar aqvs da, cxadia, verc saxelmwifo<br />

enis funqcionirebas gaakontrolebs.<br />

amisTvis saWiroa<br />

saxelmwifo struqtura, moqnili,<br />

mobiluri institucia, romelic<br />

yvela mimarTulebiT gaakontrolebs<br />

saxelmwifo enis funqcionirebis<br />

amieridan ukve kanoniT gaazrebulsa<br />

da gansazRvrul samoqmedo<br />

„rukas”.<br />

_ konkretulad ra sferoebs<br />

sWirdeba gansakuTrebuli kon-<br />

troli?<br />

_ es aris, upirveles yovlisa,<br />

ganaTleba. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom,<br />

jerjerobiT, saxelmwifo enis<br />

gavrcelebis, danergvis TvalsazrisiT<br />

saxelmwifoebrivi politika<br />

Tanmimdevruli ar aris. es<br />

Seexeba rogorc saskolo ganaTlebas,<br />

gansakuTrebiT araqarTulenovani<br />

regionebis skolebSi<br />

saxelmwifo enis swavlebas, ise<br />

umaRlesi ganaTlebis sistemasac,<br />

sadac saxelmwifo enis adgili<br />

aRar arsebobs. zogan saerTod gaqra<br />

saxelmwifo ena, TiTqos saWiro<br />

aRar iyos, TviT Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />

universitetSic ki, Sei-<br />

Zleba iTqvas, rom mas simboluri<br />

adgiliRa aqvs mikuTvnebuli.<br />

es aris, aseve, masmedia, romelic,<br />

zogadad, mediis kanoniT regulirdeba,<br />

magram enobrivi funqcionirebis<br />

TvalsazrisiT erTerTi<br />

is sferoa, romelsac Zalian<br />

didi xelSewyoba, mxardaWera da<br />

iseTi specifikuri instruqciebi<br />

sWirdeba, riTac Tanamimdevrulad<br />

ganaviTarebs, gaaumjobesebs<br />

Tavis enobriv „meurneobas”. Tavisufali<br />

media didi monapovaria<br />

da mas uamravi pozitiuri aspeqti<br />

aqvs, magram, amave dros, enobrivi<br />

procesebis ase Tavisuflad miSveba<br />

ar SeiZleba. didi saxelmwifoebic<br />

ki ar aZleven Tavs uflebas,<br />

rom TviTdinebaze iyos miSvebuli<br />

saxelmwifo enis ganviTareba.<br />

cnobilia, rom cocxal enaSi<br />

mudmivad mimdinareobs cvlilebebi.<br />

garkveul doneze es cvlilebebi<br />

raodenobrivi xasiaTisaa (magaliTad,<br />

leqsikis SemoWra), rac<br />

Semdeg, Turme, TvisobrivSi gadadis,<br />

anu iseTi procesebi iCens<br />

Tavs, romelic Seuqcevadia. Cvens<br />

enobriv sinamdvileSi amis niSnebi<br />

aris...<br />

mniSvnelovania regionebSi saxelmwifo<br />

enis srulfasovani funqcionirebis<br />

sakiTxi. sxvaTa Soris,<br />

kanonproeqtis ganxilvis<br />

dros SiSobdnen, rom am regioneb-<br />

Si isev Zveli meqanizmiT moxerxdeboda<br />

protestis provocireba.<br />

sabednierod, Cveni moqalaqeebis<br />

politikuri cnobiereba ufro<br />

metad gaizarda, vidre zogierTi<br />

„moRvawis”. dRes sayovelTao Segnebaa<br />

imisa, rom saxelmwifo enis<br />

flobis gareSe moqalaqeobrivi<br />

uflebebis ganxorcielebis Sesa-<br />

Zlebloba SezRudulia da amas<br />

Tavadve usvamdnen xazs. kanonproeqtis<br />

ganxilvis dros regionebidanac<br />

iyvnen Camosulebi da<br />

erTma mamakacma pirdapir Tqva, _<br />

me ra simwarec vnaxe cxovrebaSi<br />

imis gamo, rom qarTuli ar vicodi,<br />

sulac ar maqvs survili, Cemma<br />

Svilmac aseTive simware iwvnios,<br />

amitomac aswavleTo! regionebSi<br />

seriozuli Segnebaa imisa, rom saxelmwifo<br />

ena saTanadod iswavlebodes,<br />

magram saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

kontroli sWirdeba, rom es saqme<br />

swor niadagze dadges. amas xazs<br />

imitom vusvam, rom araqarTulenovani<br />

kontingentis momzadebis mimarTulebiT<br />

saxelmwifo resursebi<br />

ixarjeba, magram, samwuxarod,<br />

Sedegi mcirea. gasuli wlis bolos<br />

evrosabWos Tbilisis ofisis<br />

egidiT konferencia Catarda,<br />

romelzec eqspertebi gamovidnen<br />

da kritikulad Seafases viTareba.<br />

e. i. rac ixarjeba, imasac ver<br />

vimkiT. ratom? imitom, rom es<br />

kerZo iniciativebis sagania, ar<br />

aris erTiani midgoma, erTiani saxelmwifo<br />

politika, amitomac<br />

Sedegi ver gveqneba.<br />

_ anu, praqtikulad, saqarT-<br />

veloSi ar tardeba saxelmwifo<br />

enis gamyarebis politika.<br />

_ diax, erTiani saxelmwifo<br />

politika ar aris Camoyalibebuli...<br />

kanonis Tanaxmad, gasuli<br />

wlis 1-li Tebervlidan saxelmwifo<br />

enis departamenti unda amoqmedebuliyo,<br />

programebi da saxelmwifo<br />

enis normebi unda mieRoT.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, saxelmwifo enis<br />

programac SemuSavebuli gvqonda<br />

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sxva trasebzec. saerTod, regionebSi<br />

rom CaxvideT, yvelgan erTi<br />

da igive Tavmoubmeli mdgomareobaa.<br />

arada, es kanonis mixedviT<br />

gansazRvrulia. garda amisa, mi-<br />

TiTebulia, rom departamentma da<br />

iq moqmedma komisiam wesebi unda<br />

daadginos, rogor, sad, ra rigiT<br />

da ra formiT unda ganTavsdes<br />

warwera. savaldebulo ar aris,<br />

rom warwera orenovani iyos, es<br />

aravis mouTxovia. aris obieqtebi,<br />

romelzedac saxelmwifoenovani<br />

warwerac sruliad sakmarisia.<br />

unda ganisazRvros zoma da wona<br />

im gare warwerebisa, romlebic<br />

xSirad saSinlad amaxinjebs da<br />

aWuWyianebs Cvens mSvenier dedaqalaqs<br />

da Crdils ayenebs mis<br />

kulturas. ratom unda iyos valutis<br />

gadamxurdaveblis warwera<br />

ufro didi, vidre, vTqvaT, romelime<br />

keTilSobili dawesebulebisa,<br />

sruliad gaugebaria da amas<br />

kontroli sWirdeba, xom?..<br />

_ imedia, saxelmwifo droze<br />

izrunebs...<br />

_ ukiduresad momwifda vi-<br />

Tareba saxelmwifo enis dafasebisTvis.<br />

Cven Tu evropuli ojaxisken<br />

mivdivarT da evropis karze<br />

vakakunebT, iq elodebian pasuxs<br />

ara imaze, Tu risTvis, ris misaRebad<br />

movdivarT, aramed imaze, Tu<br />

ra faseuloba migvaqvs am did<br />

ojaxSi? da Cven gvaqvs is, riTac,<br />

SeiZleba, Rirseulad warvdgeT _<br />

Cveni uzarmazari istoriiT, rogorc<br />

qristianuli qveynisa da erisa;<br />

Zalian faseuli, unikaluri<br />

kulturiT da Zalian didi saxelmwifo<br />

eniT... es is faseulobebia,<br />

romlebic mudam wina planze<br />

unda gvqondes wamoweuli, romlebic<br />

arc inflacias eqvemdebareba<br />

da arc devalvacias, radgan<br />

maradiul Rirebulebas warmoadgens...<br />

ra kanons<br />

`amwnilebs~<br />

premier-<br />

ministri<br />

samuSao<br />

magidis<br />

ujraSi?<br />

da normatiuli standartebic.<br />

Cveni mxriv, rogorc mecnierebi,<br />

Cvens movaleobas vixdiT da yovelwliurad<br />

araerT siaxles vTavazobT<br />

Cvens sazogadoebas, magram,<br />

jerjerobiT, iseTi STabeWdileba<br />

rCeba, rom es yvelaferi aravis<br />

araferSi sWirdeba. saxelmwifo<br />

enis Temas qveynis cxovrebaSi, samwuxarod,<br />

kanonieri adgili, jer<br />

kidev, mosapovebeli aqvs da amaSi<br />

medias gansakuTrebuli roli<br />

ekisreba...<br />

mogexsenebaT, dRes parlaments<br />

axali Semadgenloba da ganaTlebis,<br />

mecnierebisa da kulturis komitetsac<br />

axali Tavmjdomare<br />

hyavs. saxelmwifo enis kanonis<br />

miReba komitetis maSindeli Tavmjdomaris,<br />

batoni ivane kiRuraZis<br />

didi damsaxurebaa, piradad man<br />

didi Sroma Cado am saqmeSi, magram<br />

batoni ivanes parlamentSi yofnis<br />

periodSi kanonis ganazraxTa realizeba<br />

ar moeswro. axla komitetis<br />

Tavmjdomarea qalbatoni mariam<br />

jaSi, romelTanac ukve gvqonda<br />

saubari da misi damokidebulebac,<br />

sabednierod, dadebiTia. mgoni,<br />

amjerad mainc (sjobs gvian, vidre<br />

arasdros), samarTali Tavis<br />

gzas ipovis. imedi maqvs da sxvanairad<br />

ar SemiZlia: ver Seveguebi<br />

azrs, rom es umarTavi procesi,<br />

es ganukiTxaoba usasrulod<br />

gagrZeldes, sadRac aucileblad<br />

unda damTavrdes. 25 wlis mcdelobis<br />

Semdeg iqamde mivediT, rom<br />

kanoni Camoyalibda, sxvaTa Soris,<br />

Zalian srulyofili kanoni. axla<br />

im gadawyvetilebamdec mivalT,<br />

roca saxelmwifo Seqmnis struqturas,<br />

romelic yvelafer amas<br />

gaakontrolebs, saxelmwifo enis<br />

politikas ganaxorcielebs. ufro<br />

farTod, ra Tqma unda, es aris<br />

saxelmwifos enobrivi politika,<br />

romliTac iwyeba ganaTlebac,<br />

mecnierebac, mediac, saxelmwifo<br />

samsaxurebic... sxvaTa Soris, Cven<br />

gamosacemad ukve mzad gvaqvs „sajaro<br />

moxelis leqsikoni”. sajaro<br />

samsaxurebis sfero ara marto imitom<br />

aris kritikis sagani, rom moqalaqe<br />

saWiro pasuxs ver iRebs<br />

elementaruli sakiTxis dasmis<br />

dros, aramed imiTac, rom enobrivad<br />

iseTi dokumentebi iqmneba,<br />

iseTi gankargulebebi da brZanebulebebi<br />

gamoicema, moqalaqeebs<br />

CvenTan moaqvT da gvekiTxebian,<br />

gangvimarteT, aq ra weriao. roca<br />

saTanado struqtura iarsebebs,<br />

msgavsi ram ar moxdeba, radgan is<br />

struqtura winaswar gaakontrolebs<br />

im dokumentebsa da kanonebs,<br />

romelTa wakiTxva calsaxa,<br />

erTazrovani unda iyos...<br />

_ enobrivi TvalsazrisiT Zir-<br />

iTadi problema, rac yvelaze<br />

metad TvalsaCinoa, ra aris?<br />

_ SinaurisTvisac da gareSesTvisac<br />

TvalSi sacemia gare warwerebi.<br />

Tanamedrove cxovreba ise-<br />

Tia, rom yvelaferi gareT aris<br />

gamotanili: reklamebi, aTasnairi<br />

firniSebi, ganaTebebi da a. S. rac<br />

qalaqis iersaxes qmnis. Rame rom<br />

gaiaroT, Tbilisi visi dedaqalaqia,<br />

ver gaigebT, babilonis godols<br />

hgavs... am TvalsazrisiT aranaklebi<br />

problemaa regionebSi. da<br />

ara mxolod araqarTulenovan regionebSi.<br />

daiTvales da Tbilisidan<br />

sarfamde ori aTasze meti<br />

araqarTulenovani warweraa gakeTebuli.<br />

aseTive viTarebaa Tbilisi-yazbegis<br />

mimarTulebiT da<br />

_ am yvelafris fonze Tqveni<br />

saTqmeli ra aris, batono<br />

avTandil?<br />

_ departamentis Tema ar Sei-<br />

Zleba, spekulaciis sagani iyos.<br />

struqtura SeiZleba aRmoCndes<br />

fuWi da uqmi mxolod maSin, Tu<br />

saxelmwifo politika ar arsebobs.<br />

saxelmwifo enis sferoSi<br />

politika unda Camoyalibdes,<br />

Zalian seriozulad unda miexedos<br />

yvela im instituciasa da yvela<br />

im sferos, sadac saxelmwifo<br />

ena funqcionirebs. SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />

enaTmecnierebis instituti<br />

daarsebis dRidan is umTavresi<br />

dawesebulebaa, romelic gegmazomierad<br />

swavlobs saxelmwifo<br />

enis ganviTarebas, mis istoriasa<br />

da Tanamedroveobas. swored is<br />

iyo qarTuli enis mudmivi saxelmwifo<br />

komisiis sabazo instituti,<br />

magram is saxelmwifo enis erTi<br />

frTaa da mas meore frTiT sWirdeba<br />

gawonasworeba, romelic saxelmwifoebriv<br />

nebas ganaxorcielebs.<br />

maSin saxelmwifo enis arseboba<br />

Tanamedrove mRelvare sivrceSi<br />

namdvilad simyares SeiZens.<br />

ai, am TvalTaxedviT vuyurebT<br />

Cven kanonsac da misi aRsrulebis<br />

aucileblobasac da veravin Segviryevs<br />

imis rwmenas, rom es pirveli<br />

rigis saxelmwifoebrivi sakiTxia.<br />

saqarTvelos kanoni saxelmwifo<br />

enis Sesaxeb<br />

Tavi XII<br />

gardamavali da daskvniTi<br />

debulebebi<br />

muxli 40. kanonis amoqmedebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT gansaxorcielebeli<br />

RonisZiebebi<br />

1. 2016 wlis 1-l Tebervlamde:<br />

a) saqarTvelos mTavrobam daamtkicos<br />

sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli<br />

piris _ saxelmwifo enis<br />

departamentis debuleba da<br />

struqtura, gansazRvros misi<br />

qonebis Seqmnis wesi;<br />

b) saqarTvelos premier-ministrma<br />

Tanamdebobaze daniSnos saxelmwifo<br />

enis departamentis<br />

Tavmjdomare.<br />

2. 2016 wlis 14 aprilamde<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobam daamtkicos:<br />

a) saxelmwifo enis erTiani<br />

programa;<br />

b) qarTuli saliteraturo<br />

enis normebi da terminologiuri<br />

standartebi;<br />

g) saxelmwifo enis gamocdis<br />

Catarebis wesi.<br />

3. saqarTvelos finansTa saministrom<br />

„saqarTvelos 2016 wlis<br />

saxelmwifo biujetis Sesaxeb”<br />

saqarTvelos kanonis proeqtis<br />

momzadebisas uzrunvelyos masSi<br />

am kanonidan gamomdinare sabiujeto<br />

saxsrebis asaxva.<br />

muxli 41. kanonis amoqmedeba<br />

1. es kanoni, garda am kanonis<br />

33-e, 34-e, 36-e da 37-e muxlebisa,<br />

amoqmeddes 2016 wlis 1-li ianvridan.<br />

2. am kanonis 36-e muxlis 1-lime-5<br />

punqtebi, me-6 punqtis „a”-„v”,<br />

„T” da „i” qvepunqtebi da me-7-me-<br />

10 punqtebi amoqmeddes 2016 wlis<br />

1-li Tebervlidan.<br />

3. am kanonis 33-e da 34-e muxlebi,<br />

36-e muxlis me-6 punqtis „z”<br />

qvepunqti da 37-e muxli amoqmeddes<br />

2016 wlis 14 Tebervlidan”.<br />

P. S. sxvaTa Soris, gasul wels<br />

aRniSnul departamentze saxelm-<br />

wifo biujetidan 300 aTasi lari<br />

gamoiyo, 2017 wels ki am mniSvn-<br />

elovani sakiTxis gadasaWrelad<br />

Tanxa saxelmwifo biujetidan<br />

aravis gamouyvia.<br />

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manZilze. SeiZleba iTqvas, ufro aqtualuricaa, vidre aqam-<br />

de. ekonomikuri xedvis Camoyalibeba, sxva mizezebTan erTad,<br />

imitom aris prioriteti, rom ocwliani damoukideblobis<br />

manZilze pirvelad moxerxda Zalauflebis mSvidobiani gziT<br />

Secvla da Sesabamisad, demokratiuli ganviTarebisken erT-<br />

erTi yvelaze gardamtexi nabiji gadaidga.<br />

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1 weliwadi mokle droa... 10 milioni ki -<br />

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unda daexarja.<br />

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TanamSromlebis mier Tveebis man-<br />

Zilze usaqmurobis TvalsaCino<br />

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TiTqmis erTi milioni lari<br />

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uri strategia, radgan ar iciT,<br />

ra ras emsaxureba...<br />

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isiwina, rom rTuli reliefi daproeqtebis<br />

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manamde man proeqtis SeTanxmebaze<br />

uari ganacxada. es arqiteqturis<br />

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pirs unda mieRo, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

dedaqalaqis mers.<br />

_ ra aris am yvelafris mizezi?<br />

_ pirvel rigSi, albaT, is, rom<br />

samSeneblo kanonmdebloba saqarTveloSi<br />

mouwesrigebelia, fragmentulia,<br />

sxvadasxva mizniT Seqmnil<br />

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dawyebuli miwis nakve-<br />

Tis kvlevidan, aSenebuli Senobis<br />

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cxad normaTa erToblioba, am<br />

dros Semodis sajaro moxelis<br />

TviTneboba, rom man Tavisi Sexedulebisamebr,<br />

ara kanonis miznisTvis<br />

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sakiTxi, aramed, _ Tavisi<br />

gemovnebiT. SeiZleba, is Zalian<br />

ratom akritikeben<br />

Tbilisis ganaSenianebas<br />

ucxoeli specialistebi?!<br />

gulwrfeli iyos Tavis gadawyvetilebaSi,<br />

magram is acdenilia<br />

mTavars _ daefuZnos kanons, romelic<br />

sazogadoebis SeTanxmebis sagania.<br />

_ gamosavali?<br />

_ me piradad sivrciTi mowyobisa<br />

da mSeneblobis kodeqsis proeqtze<br />

vmuSaobdi, romelic ukve<br />

saqarTvelos parlamentSi ganixileba.<br />

Cemi wvlili am proeqtSi<br />

mTlianad qalaq Tbilisis arqiteqturuli<br />

saqmianobis gamocdilebis<br />

maqsimalurad asaxva iyo, im xarvezebis<br />

gaTvaliswineba, rac zemoT<br />

aRvniSne. SeiZleba, cudi kanoni<br />

gvqondes, magram karg Sedegebs<br />

mivaRwioT. kargi Sedegebi swored<br />

im SemTxvevaSi miiRweva, Tu erTiani,<br />

sazogadoebasTan SeTanxmebiT<br />

Camoyalibebuli xedva gveqneba _<br />

saiT mivdivarT, rogorc sazogadoeba<br />

da moqalaqeebi am qalaqSi;<br />

saiTken gvinda ganviTardes es qalaqi,<br />

rom momavalSi vicxovroT<br />

jansaRad da es sivrce davutovoT<br />

Semdgom Taobebsac. dRes am<br />

TvalsazrisiT seriozuli gamowvevebi<br />

gvaqvs, ar arsebobs erTiani<br />

xedva, gvaqvs formaluri politikis<br />

fragmentebi calkeul normatiul<br />

aqtebSi, maT Soris, Tbilisis<br />

ganaSenianebis wesebSi, magram,<br />

saboloo jamSi, ar gvaqvs konsolidirebuli<br />

gegma Sejerebuli,<br />

maT Soris, biznesTanac, radgan developmentis<br />

gareSe, ubralod, mxolod<br />

sabiujeto Tanxebis amara<br />

ver ganvviTardebiT. ukve sxva wyobaSi<br />

vcxovrobT, es aris mTavari<br />

gamowveva qalaqisTvis. am sakiTxze<br />

qalaqma cota xnis win daiwyo mu-<br />

Saoba, magram, erTi SexedviT, procesebi<br />

arc Tu ise damaimedeblad<br />

midis.<br />

ulrix Stelkensi _ germaniis<br />

Spaieris administraciul mecnie-<br />

rebaTa universitetis profeso-<br />

ri:<br />

_ diskreciul uflebamosilebas,<br />

pirvel rigSi, administraciis<br />

kanonierebasTan aqvs kavSiri. es<br />

niSnavs imas, rom administraciul<br />

organos diskreciuli uflebamosilebis<br />

ganxorcieleba SeuZlia<br />

mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, rodesac<br />

misTvis kanoni amis SesaZleblobas<br />

iZleva. pirvel rigSi dasadgenia<br />

faqtobrivi garemoebebis urTier-<br />

TmimarTeba gamosayenebel kanon-<br />

Tan. Tuki swor normas miusadageb<br />

araswor faqtobriv garemoebas,<br />

Sedegi analogiurad kanonsawinaaRmdego<br />

iqneba, vidre es piriqiT<br />

rom momxdariyo. administraciuli<br />

organos nebismieri gadawyvetileba<br />

unda iyos dasabuTebuli, miT<br />

umetes, Tu is adamianis uflebeb-<br />

Si ereva. germaniaSi magaliTad, arsebobs<br />

erTi swori pasuxi, romelsac<br />

bolo instanciis sasamarTlo<br />

iZleva. did britaneTSi, magali-<br />

Tad, Tu raime fataluri Secdoma<br />

ar dauSva administraciulma organom,<br />

sasamarTlo maT gadawyvetilebebs<br />

sworad miiCnevs da aRiarebs.<br />

germanul modelze Tu vimsjelebT,<br />

Cven ufro midrekilebi<br />

varT imisken, rom moqalaqeebs mo-<br />

Txovnis uflebebi mivaniWoT konkretuli<br />

administraciis qmedebebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT. britaneTsa<br />

da safrangeTSi asea, rom calkeuli<br />

uflebebi unda iyos gaTvaliswinebuli<br />

gadawyvetilebebSi. amas<br />

aqvs kavSiri istoriul warsul-<br />

Tan, calkeuli kanonebis dawera-<br />

SedgenasTan, agreTve, rogor aswavlian<br />

sajaro moxeleebis. evrokavSiris<br />

farglebSi gansxavebuli<br />

warmodgena gvaqvs, Tu ras niSnavs<br />

kanonis savaldebuloba da kanonis<br />

mboWavi Zala. samarTlis erTgvarovani<br />

gamoyeneba konkretul saxelmwifoSi<br />

damokidebulia imaze,<br />

rom praqtikosebi iyvnen erT azrze<br />

_ rogor gaigon konkretuli<br />

normebi da rogor unda daiweros<br />

kanoni. amasTan dakavSirebiT unda<br />

arsebobdes erTiani midgoma. saboloo<br />

jamSi, es aris kanonis winaSe<br />

Tanasworobis sakiTxi.<br />

_ Tqveni dakvirvebiT, ra aris<br />

saqarTvelSi sajaro mmarTvelo-<br />

bis mTavari problema?<br />

_ rogorc davakvirdi, saqarTveloSi<br />

sakvanZo poziciebsa da administraciaSi<br />

gyavT adamianebi,<br />

romelTac erTmaneTisgan Zalze<br />

gansxvavebuli codna aqvT. ufrosi<br />

asakis adamianebma SeiZleba ssr<br />

kavSiris dros miiRes ganaTleba,<br />

zogma, SeiZleba, aSS-Si miiRo, zogma<br />

_ evropaSi, magram amas ar aqvs<br />

miSvneloba, maT SeiZines codna,<br />

rogori midgoma unda arsebobdes<br />

kanonTan mimarTebiT. erTmaneTTan<br />

gansxvavebuli meTodis kulturis<br />

problema evropaSi gasuli 10 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi SevicaniT, es imas ni-<br />

Snavs, rom midrekilni varT, erTmaneTis<br />

azrebs avcdeT.<br />

_ ra migaCniaT problemis da-<br />

Zlevis saSualebad?<br />

_ am problemis daZlevis saSualebad<br />

mimaCnia erTgvarovani swavlebis<br />

SemoReba, maT Soris, samar-<br />

TalmcodneebisTvis. sakanonmdeblo<br />

redaqciis kuTxiTac es Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovania, vinaidan es yvelaferi<br />

SeiZleba imaze iyos damokidebuli,<br />

romelma arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciam gasca konkretuli<br />

kanonis miRebis dros konsultaciebi,<br />

an romelma ministrma sad<br />

miiRo ganaTleba. rodesac saqme<br />

exeba diskrecias, am kuTxiT Zalian<br />

kargia evrosabWos rCevebi, romelic<br />

imas ki ar aRwers, Tu rodis aris<br />

mocemuli diskrecia, aramed<br />

rodis aris mocemuli gadawyvetilebebis<br />

miRebis dros Tavisufali<br />

sivrce administraciuli organosTvis.<br />

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natalia kldiaSvili _<br />

clidan ar vakeTeb xolme aras-<br />

gamorCeuli garegnobisa da<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

dros.<br />

cxovrebis gansxvavebuli stilis<br />

_ ra iyo gadawyvetileba, ro-<br />

maRali, qera qalbatoni slavuri<br />

melic ginaniaT? ras SecvlidiT?<br />

cxviriT, muqi feris kaniTa da daxvewili nakvTebiT! _ misi<br />

_ Cems cxovrebaSi yvelafers<br />

interesis sfero axla kedlis instalaciebia. sxvadasxva<br />

Sevcvlidi da arafers, radgan<br />

feris naturaluri qvebisa da liTonisgan, feradi minebisa da<br />

rac gavakeTe, am gadmosaxedidan<br />

bevri sxva masalisgan iseT namuSevrebs qmnis, romelic erTa-<br />

TiTqmis yvelaferi araswori iyo.<br />

derTia da ar meordeba. swored aman migviyvana nataliasTan.<br />

ar unda gamevlo iseTi mZime cxovreba,<br />

rac gaviare da es me Tvi-<br />

masze saqarTveloSi bevrma,<br />

keTebas Tavi davanebe da rogorc<br />

Ton gavakeTe, TviTon avirCie<br />

ubralod, ar icis. ar icnoben<br />

male gaCnda es idea, iseve male<br />

rTuli gza, romlis gavlac didi<br />

imitom, rom rogorc TviTon am-<br />

miviviwye.<br />

nervebisa da wlebis xarjze mov-<br />

bobs, yvirili da sazogadoebaSi<br />

myavs 22 wlis biWi, romelic<br />

axerxe, magram arasdros araferi<br />

gamoCena didad ar uyvars. arada,<br />

teqnikur sakiTxebSi Zalian ni-<br />

minania. Zalian bevri Secdoma dais<br />

aris adamiani, romelmac qvey-<br />

Wieria. me Zalian aramaterialisti<br />

var da is cota miwaze msvams<br />

magram am Secdomebma momiyvana<br />

lovnebis yvelaze prestiJul<br />

xolme, erTmaneTs vabalansebT.<br />

dRes aqamde, amitom arafers<br />

gamofenaze waradgina. misi namu-<br />

saerTod, Tu rame ar mesmis, mas-<br />

Sevcvli.<br />

Sevrebi snup dogis, biTsi qolin-<br />

Tan gavdivar da mexmareba. Zalian<br />

_ visTvis da ra ar genanebaT<br />

zis, loren hilis, qvinsi jonsis,<br />

kargi Svili myavs, yvelaze didi<br />

xolme?<br />

nik vestisa da sxva bevri war-<br />

Sedevri, rac cxovrebaSi Semiqm-<br />

_ aravisTvis araferi menaneba<br />

matebuli adamianis koleqcias<br />

nia, swored isaa, ara imitom, rom<br />

da es Tu ar SevaCere, ar vici, sad-<br />

amSvenebs.<br />

Cemia, aramed imitom, rom marTla<br />

amde mival. yvelafers uangarod<br />

axla saqarTveloSia, ramden-<br />

kargi adamiania. es ramdenime si-<br />

gavcem xolme da es CemTvis imxela<br />

ime dReSi amerikaSi apirebs gamgtyviT<br />

masze. misi dabadebidan bev-<br />

siamovnebaa, imdenad vivsebi, rom<br />

zavrebas, gegmebi ki didia.<br />

ri weli gavida da ise moxda, rom<br />

Zalian didxans mimyveba. roca gasvuSvi<br />

erTmaneTis miyolebiTac ki,<br />

ana okeanis gadaRma, amerikaSi xe-<br />

mamaCemis megobarma es namuSevari<br />

cem _ kosmosi TviTon aTmagad<br />

dRes „qronika+”-s misi gacno-<br />

naxa da mTxova, isev msgavsi ram Semeqmna<br />

da ori instalacia Semikve-<br />

rac Tavi maxsovs da ar mesmoda,<br />

vili:<br />

Ta am stilSi. daaxloebiT, 20<br />

ubralod, ratom SemeZlo uangar-<br />

_ natalia, mogviyeviT Tqven-<br />

weli iyo gasuli. orive amuSevari<br />

od gameca yvelaferi. ar maxsovs,<br />

ze.<br />

gavakeTe. rogorc ki davamTavre<br />

rame ise gamekeTebinos da aTmagad<br />

gibrunebs ukan. sul aseTi viyavi,<br />

bis pativi aqvs _ natalia kldiaS-<br />

_ xelovnebasTan Cemi kontaqtiT<br />

daviwyeb da vityvi, rom 17 wl-<br />

rom veRar vCerdebodi. Zalian<br />

cuds Tu gaisvriT, cudi mova<br />

da anazRaureba aviRe, mivxvdi,<br />

ar dambrunebodes. es bumerangia,<br />

isam Tbilisis samxatvro akademiaSi<br />

Cavabare, 21 wlis viyavi, roca daviwye da gagrZelda...<br />

vriT _ kargi. amitom gaeciT meti.<br />

did sicarieleSi davrCi. mere<br />

gaaTmagebulad, kargs Tu gais-<br />

swavla davamTavre. amis Semdeg, 22 sxvadasxva stilis Zalian bevr<br />

_ vis hgavxarT?<br />

Tu 23 wlis viyavi, rodesac zafxulSi<br />

zRvidan Camovedi da maxsleqcia<br />

Sevkari da pirveli eqspe-<br />

„qarwaRebulnis” skarlets. isic<br />

namuSevars vakeTebdi, mere es ko-<br />

_ magaze ar mifiqria, albaT,<br />

ovs, uamravi ferad-feradi kenWi rimentuli gamofena gavakeTe am<br />

verZia, mec ase var da vadarebdi<br />

Camovitane. magidaze rom amovyare,<br />

yvela erTad gadmocvivda da rogor miiRebda xalxi. aRmoCnda, is boloSi ekida „mze”, roca igi veci.<br />

Tavidan daiwyos yvelaferi da<br />

namuSevrebiT, mainteresebda, Tu gens _ zustad ase moxda, aq, oTaxeri<br />

amoviRe da mayurebels gada-<br />

Tavs. is Zala, rac verZs aqvs, rom<br />

sveli, feradi kenWebisgan Zalian rom gamofenam Zalian didi warmateba<br />

momitana, ukve Camovyali-<br />

didi xania, bavSvobis mere saqar- _ sul kosmosis TemaSi var, im-<br />

maqvs. bolo wamamde vibrZvi yove-<br />

daviTma SeamCnia, romelic Zalian<br />

_ ra aris Tqveni inspiracia?<br />

damwvridan aaSenos raRac, mec<br />

lamazi suraTi Seiqmna. mominda,<br />

rom aseve darCeniliyo. aviRe webo<br />

da viRacis Zveli tilos naxaers<br />

da meore didi gamofena gava-<br />

Si moRvawe qarTveli mxatvaria, is axali gravitaciuli talRebi, tom yvela, vinc myavs, roca CemTan<br />

bdi, sxvanairad Sevxede yvelaf-<br />

TveloSi ar Camosula, _ amerika- deni rame xdeba irgvliv, Tundac lTvis da sxvebsac vexmarebi. amiti,<br />

romelic gadavRebe da qvebis keTe. es iyo „planetebi”, romelic<br />

aSS-Si wavida, Zalian didi gatoria.<br />

yvela gamofena, romelic lafers cvlis, mTeli samyaros Tavis problemas, ise gadavukeTeb<br />

axla Cemi artdireqtori da kura-<br />

romelic axla aRmoaCines, es yve-<br />

modis, icis, rom ise davuxatav<br />

awyoba daviwye. samzareuloSi viyavi<br />

da, faqtobrivad, misvlis wamidan<br />

iqidan ar gamovsulvar. ga-<br />

roca pirvel gamofenas vake- damsaxurebaa. swored man dainaxa daskvnebs yovelTvis vecnobi, yve-<br />

problema arc yofila.<br />

moxmaureba mohyva da dRemde aqvs. meqneba da manamdec mqonda, misi istorias atrialebs. mecnierul xolme yvelafers, rom, Turme,<br />

vixede da wiwibura vnaxe, cota Tebdi, bolo namuSevari Sevqmeni es namuSevari da aqedan daiwyo laferi mainteresebs kosmosze, zogadad, sasaciloc var, tragikulic,<br />

giJic var, uxeSic var. _<br />

brinjic iyo, gatexili patara sarke,<br />

raRac gawyvetili mZivi da iq-<br />

vakeTebdi, vambobdi, rom es aris CamoxseniT namuSevari, vyiduloviT<br />

avawyo rame, ubralod, modis<br />

namuSevrebis Seqmnis dros rames<br />

ve, mTeli palitra gavakeTe spon-<br />

am gamofenis dasasruli da Semdebo.<br />

fasic ki ar ukiTxavs, maSinve ideebi, zogjer Zalian Rrmad,<br />

Tu usmenT?<br />

tanurad da Zalian moulodnelgi<br />

gamofenis dasawyisi. vambobdi, miTxra, _ maCveneT, ras akeTebTo. kvantur doneze Sevdivar. mexum-<br />

_ gagikvirdebaT da teqnos. mu-<br />

saxelwodebiT „mze” da roca amas yvelaferi: Semovida da Tqva, _ Tumca imitom ara, rom amis mixedad.<br />

dResac maqvs is namuSevari da rom es „mze” moitans im energias roca Cemi namuSevrebi vaCvene, rebian xolme, daanebe Tavi xelovnebas<br />

da mecnieri gaxdio _ mecniers,<br />

koncentracias makargvinebs,<br />

sika, sadac simReris teqsti JR-<br />

veravin xvdeba, riT gavakeTe. mas da im adamians, romelic am yvelafers<br />

Seafasebs, SefuTavs da weliwadSi „hemptonSi”furoriT eroba xmamaRali naTqvamia, ra amitom sul teqno maqvs CarTuli<br />

miTxra, rom am koleqciiT erT<br />

Semdeg 27 weliwadi gavida.<br />

mere davfexmZimdi, am saqmis ufro farTo auditorias warud-<br />

gavidodiT. marTlac, erT weliwadSi<br />

es koleqcia iq wavida da<br />

Tqma unda, magram carieli fur-<br />

erT xmaze, ar mafiqrebinebs ara-<br />

Cemi gvari endi vorholis, pikasosa<br />

da msgavsi Semoqmedebis siaSi<br />

iyo moxseniebuli. am gamofenaze<br />

moxvedris principi ki Semdegia:<br />

100 saukeTeso galerea msoflios<br />

qveynebidan waradgens 100 sauke-<br />

Teso xelovans TavianTi galereidan<br />

aSS-Si, „hemptonSi”. mec aq<br />

warmadgines, pirdapir umaRles<br />

safexurze movxvdi, arada, Zalian<br />

bevri ram unda gaiaro, rom iq moxvde.<br />

samwuxarod, sabuTebis gamo<br />

me TviTon ver wavedi da gamofenam<br />

uCemod Caiara, magram gamoxmaureba<br />

kargi iyo, JurnalistebTan bevri<br />

ar milaparakia, ar miyvars<br />

xolme gamosvlebi da yvirili,<br />

visac ainteresebda, yvelaferi<br />

internetis saSualebiT naxa,<br />

visac _ ara, imas ar unaxavs.<br />

_ ra iyo is sirTuleebi,<br />

romelic gzad SegxvdaT?<br />

_ cxovrebiseuli Zalian bevri<br />

iyo da aqamde vardisferi RrublebiT<br />

ar movsulvar, magram miuxedavad<br />

amisa, rac miyvarda da Cems<br />

sulSi kargi iyo da aris, yvelaf-<br />

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gza Tbilisidan `hemptonamde~<br />

uTar Tavs da sakuTar varskvlavs<br />

eZeben. minda, wiTel quCaze gavxsna<br />

igi, iq, sadac adamianebi siyvar-<br />

ferze, mTiSavs da Tan, roca viRlebi,<br />

cekvas viwyeb _ visveneb.<br />

_ TqvenTvis ra aris yvelaze<br />

Zvirfasi Tviseba adamianSi?<br />

_ erTguleba yvelaferSi:<br />

saqmeSi, megobrobaSi, siyvarulSi.<br />

_ risTvis ibrZviT?<br />

_ samarTlianobisTvis da yovelTvis<br />

asea. CemSi es grZnoba gaasmagebuladaa.<br />

ar aqvs mniSvneloba<br />

visTvis, SeiZleba, viRac ucxos-<br />

Tvis, magram mainc samarTlianobisTvis<br />

vibrZvi.<br />

_ vin genatrebaT?<br />

_ ojaxis wevrebi da megobrebi,<br />

romlebic cocxlebi aRar arian.<br />

_ ra gaRizianebT yvelaze met-<br />

ad?<br />

_ tyuili, sul imis SegrZneba<br />

maqvs, rom roca matyueben, Seuracxmyofen.<br />

yvelanairi simar-<br />

Tle mirCevnia tyuils.<br />

_ im sistemaSi ras SecvlidiT,<br />

rac gawuxebT?<br />

_ Zalian momwons axali Taoba<br />

da mimaCnia, rom SeuZlebelia, magram,<br />

mainc, isini moaxerxeben,<br />

Secvalon da moawesrigon es sistema.<br />

bevri, TiTqmis, yvela Cveni<br />

Tanamedrove damokidebulia da<br />

Camokidebuli mainc materialur<br />

faseulobebze da Rirebulebebze,<br />

romelic unda daingres da<br />

sruliad axali samyaro Seiqmnas.<br />

es qarTuli snobizmi unda moispos,<br />

Cemi suli aris sruli hipi,<br />

meti Tavisufleba! yvelas Tavisi<br />

cxovreba da arCevani aqvs, magram<br />

rCeva iqneba _ moicilon es mZime<br />

cxovreba da materialistebi ar<br />

iyvnen. msubuqad cxovreba sul<br />

sxva ramea.<br />

_ xelovneba ra aris?<br />

_ Cemi sulieri mdgomareoba,<br />

rasac me vgrZnob da gadmovcem<br />

ferebiT, faqturebiT, imiT, rac<br />

mxvdeba, Cemi instalaciebiT Cemi<br />

suli realizdeba.<br />

_ TqvenTvis samagaliTo vin<br />

aris?<br />

_ Cemi Secdoma. absurdia, vinmes<br />

vuyuro. adre, SeiZleba, dedas<br />

da bebos vuyurebdi da maTze<br />

vswavlobdi, magram mainc Cemeburad<br />

vakeTebdi imas, rac mindoda.<br />

_ sakuTari Tavi ipoveT?<br />

_ ara, mas ukanaskneli amosunTqvisas<br />

vipovi, albaT, am qveynidan<br />

wasvlis wina wams.<br />

_ paraleluri ganzomilebis<br />

gjeraT?<br />

_ ki, ra Tqma unda. sxvaTa Soris,<br />

saintereso proeqti minda gavakeTo<br />

amsterdamSi, es minda gavakeTo<br />

adamianebze, romlebic sak-<br />

ulis sayidlad Cadian.<br />

_ raze fiqrobT yvelaze xSir-<br />

ad?<br />

_ Cems namuSevrebze. Tu Seyvarebuli<br />

var, Seyvarebulze, magram<br />

Seyvarebuli sul var xolme.<br />

gamoricxulia dRe da wuTi,<br />

rodesac Seyvarebuli ar viyo.<br />

SeiZleba, gverdiT ar myavdes, magram<br />

mabednierebdes, rom sadRac<br />

arsebobs.<br />

zogjer imis xalisi maRviZebs,<br />

rom namuSevari unda gavakeTo...<br />

_ kmayofili xarT xolme na-<br />

muSevriT?<br />

_ bolomde ara, im momentSi<br />

rasac vakeTeb da viReb, imiT _ ki,<br />

magram meti SemiZlia gavakeTo. ar<br />

arsebobs srulyofili, yovel-<br />

Tvis ganviTareba mWirdeba.<br />

_ ra geamayebaT?<br />

_ is, rasac vakeTeb _ Cemi xeliT,<br />

Cemi SromiT, Cemi gonebiT da<br />

pirovnebiT SemiZlia, Cemive axali<br />

produqti Sevqnma. me es Zalian<br />

mavsebs da meamayeba. aseve meamayeba<br />

da bednieri var, rom myavs ase-<br />

Ti kargi Svili, romelsac hyavs<br />

megobrebi, romlebic bevrad<br />

Cemze ukeTesebi arian da adamianebi,<br />

romlebic Zalian mavseben da es<br />

mabednierebs.<br />

_ sicarieles grZnobT xolme?<br />

_ arasodes, radgan aseTi dro<br />

ar mqonia. an Cems saqmes vakeTeb, an<br />

SeyvarebulTan var, an megobrebTan,<br />

an SvilTan, an mSoblebTan, an<br />

marto var da sulelur filmebs<br />

vuyureb. iqac bednieri var. bevr<br />

rames vakeTeb da droc ar maqvs sicarielisTvis.<br />

panika maqvs xolme<br />

drosTan dakavSirebiT da sul<br />

vcdilob, tyuilad erTi wami<br />

mainc ar gavides, ar davkargo.<br />

_ ggoniaT, rom adamianic pat-<br />

ara kosmosia?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda. yvela adamiani<br />

samyaroa, gaaCnia, ra mimarTulebiT<br />

waiyvan TviTonve Sens Tavs,<br />

radgan atomisgan SevdgebiT da iq<br />

yvelaferi brunavs, esec iluziaa,<br />

Cven TviTonve SegviZlia SeviqmnaT<br />

Cvenive samyaro iseTi, rogoric<br />

gvinda, rom iyos da amas simZimisgan<br />

ganTavisufleba sWirdeba.<br />

xSirad mxolod imiT vyofilvar<br />

gaxarebuli, rom mze daminaxavs.<br />

ar SeiZleba, adamiani konkretuli<br />

nivTebiT xarobdes: manqaniT,<br />

saxliT, mobiluriT da a. S.<br />

adamiani yvelafriT unda xarobdes,<br />

grZnobebs aqvs azri, danarCeni<br />

yvelaferi warmavalia.<br />

_ ggoniaT, rom amouwuravi<br />

xarT?<br />

_ ki, usasruloba var. yvela<br />

adamiani asea, zogi TviTonve<br />

iketeba, arada, namdvilad usasruloba<br />

varT.<br />

_ vin aris natalia kldiaS-<br />

vili?<br />

_ dro gvaCvenebs, bevri vinmea:<br />

deda, megobari, sayvareli, mxatvari,<br />

bevri viRacaa, magram raRac<br />

erTi _ ara. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />

dro gvaCvenebs, Tu vin aris sinamdvileSi.<br />

_ Sinaganad ramdeni wlis<br />

xarT?<br />

_ Cemi Svilis toli, 22 wlis,<br />

albaT.<br />

_ ra aris silamaze?<br />

_ sulieri mdgomareoba, sike-<br />

Te. adamianebis urTierTdamokidebuleba,<br />

anu rogor eqcevi maT<br />

da rogor geqcevian isini Sen.<br />

_ rodis isvenebT?<br />

_ roca Ramis 2 saaTis Semdeg<br />

Sevdivar klubSi, am samyaros rom<br />

vtoveb da sxvagan gadavdivar, ai,<br />

zustad maSin visveneb, imitom,<br />

rom vifantebi, araferze vfiqrob.<br />

_ samomavlo gegma?<br />

_ axla amerikaSi mivdivar, magram<br />

winaswar arafers vityvi,<br />

radgan eg ukve calke Temaa da gpirdebiT,<br />

rom Zalian saintereso<br />

iqneba.<br />

_ ra iqneba Tqveni gzavnili<br />

sazogadoebisTvis?<br />

_ daiviwyeT yvelaferi materialuri<br />

da gaxseniT kosmosisken<br />

gza, arxi. ganTavisufldiT yvelanairi<br />

simZimisgan da danarCeni<br />

TavisiT mova. gaeciT rac SeiZleba<br />

meti. Tu ar SegiZliaT gasceT<br />

materialurad, maSin gaeciT siyvaruli,<br />

musika, aTasi rame, rac<br />

adamianma SeiZleba gaakeTos.<br />

am qveyanaze araferi tyuilad<br />

da uSedegod ar xdeba. Zalian<br />

didi Sromis, didi survilis fasi<br />

yovelTvis sruldeba. karg energias<br />

kargi energia moaqvs _ daijereT<br />

da yvelaferi kargad iqneba.<br />

natalia Tavis namuSevrebTan<br />

davtove, romelTagan erTi _ „Savi<br />

xvreli”, ubralod, Tvals mWrida<br />

mTeli intervius msvlelobisas.<br />

wamosvlisas vfiqrobdi, ratom ar<br />

vicnobdiT mas aqamde? is xom im<br />

energiis matarebelia, romelic<br />

aucileblad moitans warmatebas.<br />

mixaroda, rom qarTveli deda<br />

bevr stereotips arRvevs da ibrZvis<br />

siyvarulisTvis, warmatebisTvis.<br />

darwmunebuli var, misi<br />

saxeli araerTxel gaJRerdeba.<br />

„qronika+”-is mkiTxveli ki momdevno<br />

nomerSi morig saintereso<br />

personas gaicnobs.<br />

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oTxi qarTveli parizul kvarcxlbekze<br />

gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />

erTi vercxli, sami brinjao da<br />

merve adgili gundur CaTvlaSi –<br />

aseTi monagariT brundebian qarTveli<br />

Ziudoistebi parizidan, sadac<br />

prestiJul grandslemze mosinjes<br />

Zalebi. mTlianobaSi, Sedegi<br />

damakmayofileblad unda Sefasdes,<br />

radgan parizis turnirze,<br />

tradiciulad, metad Zlieri Semadgenloba<br />

iyris xolme Tavs, Tumca<br />

mainc guldasawyvetia is faqti,<br />

rom oqros medlis gareSe davrCiT,<br />

38<br />

wamyvani qarTveli Ziudoistebis<br />

nawilma ki brZola adreul etapebzeve<br />

daasrula.<br />

saqarTvelos nakrebis mTavarma<br />

mwvrTnelma irakli cirekiZem stumari<br />

gundisTvis dawesebuli kvota<br />

TiTqmis srulad gamoiyena da<br />

erTi gamonaklisis garda, TiToeul<br />

woniT kategoriaSi or-ori Ziudoisti<br />

daayena. ramdenime Cvenma<br />

Ziudoistma Zalebi axal wonaSi mosinja,<br />

nawilma Sedegianad, nawilmac<br />

– uSedegod.<br />

parizuli grandslemi imiTac<br />

iyo saintereso, rom es gaxldaT<br />

pirveli prestiJuli turniri,<br />

romelic saxecvlili wesebiT Catarda.<br />

am cvlilebebidan mTavari is<br />

aris, rom brZolis xangrZlivoba<br />

xuTidan oTx wuTamde Semcirda,<br />

aseve gauqmda Sefaseba iuko, vazaris<br />

raodenoba ki SeuzRudavi gaxda.<br />

amieridan yvela gdeba, maT Soris,<br />

iukos donisac, vazarid fasdeba.<br />

Zveli wesebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />

roca ori vazari ipons udrida,<br />

vazari imdeni dafiqsirdeba,<br />

ramdeni gdebac Sesruldeba. iponi<br />

ki ucvlelad darCa da wminda<br />

gdebis Semsrulebeli brZolas,<br />

Zveleburad, vadamde moigebs.<br />

rac Seexeba qarTul monagars,<br />

vercxlis medals zebeda rexviaSvili<br />

daeufla, brinjaos ki – amiran<br />

papinaSvili, vaJa margvelaSvili<br />

da varlam liparteliani.<br />

ufro konkretulad ki, wonebis<br />

mixedviT, parizul tatamze movlenebi<br />

ase ganviTarda:<br />

60 kg: luxum Cxvimianma ori<br />

brZolis mogeba SeZlo da asparezobas<br />

mervedfinalSi, braziliel<br />

erik takabatakesTan marcxiT gamoeTiSa.<br />

manamde man Cinel i Sangsa da<br />

frang sedrik revols ajoba. rac<br />

Seexeba brinjaosmedalosan papina-<br />

Svils, amiranma ungreli Saba sabosa<br />

da rusi albert oguzovis ZleviT<br />

meoTxedfinalSi gaaRwia, sadac<br />

momaval CempionTan, iaponel<br />

naohisa takatosTan damarcxda. papinaSvilma<br />

damamSvidebel etapze<br />

ivarga – jer frang vensan limars<br />

mougo, mere ki samxreTkoreel<br />

Caniong kims. am ukanasknelis garda,<br />

amiranma yvela metoqes sufTad<br />

sZlia.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. naohisa takato<br />

(iaponia), 2. Sarafudin luftilaevi<br />

(uzbekeTi), 3. orhan safarovi<br />

(azerbaijani), amiran papinaSvili<br />

(saqarTvelo)<br />

66 kg: am wonaSi mxolod vaJa<br />

margvelaSvili gvyavda da evropis<br />

SarSandelma Cempionma brinjaos<br />

medali mogvitana. brazilieli<br />

daniel kargninisa da yirgizi<br />

beqTur rismambetovis gzidan<br />

Camocilebis Semdeg vaJam iaponel<br />

hifumi abesTan veRaraferi<br />

gaawyo. am ukanasknels verc sxvebma<br />

mouxerxes rame da abe<br />

kvarcxlbekis umaRles safexurze<br />

avida. margvelaSvilma ki<br />

repeSaJSi gadainacvla da portugalieli<br />

sergiu oleinikisa<br />

da monRoli xerlen ganboldis<br />

damarcxebiT brinjao irguna.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. hifumi abe (iaponia),<br />

2. anzaur ardanovi (ruseTi),<br />

3. vaJa margvelaSvili (saqarTvelo),<br />

nijaT Sihalizada (azerbaijani).<br />

73 kg: es erTaderTi wonaa, sadac<br />

qarTveli medalTa axlosac ki<br />

ver mivida. fridon gigani portugaliel<br />

JorJe fernandeSTan marcxiT<br />

daemSvidoba turnirs, olimpiurma<br />

Cempionma laSa SavdaTuaSvilma<br />

ki mxolod erT metoqes ajoba<br />

– monRol xadbaaTar naranxuusTan<br />

mogebis Semdeg frang loik<br />

korvalTan veRarafers gaxda.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. soiCi haSimoto<br />

(iaponia), 2. Cangrim ani (samxreT korea),<br />

3. Tohar buTbuli (israeli),<br />

hidaiaT heidarovi (azerbaijani).<br />

81 kg: wlebis winaT zebeda rexviaSvili<br />

Ziudos amomaval varskvlavad<br />

miiCneoda. axalgazrdebSi<br />

man bevri tituli moipova, magram<br />

mere travmebma da sxva garemoebebma<br />

SesaZleblobebis gamovlenaSi<br />

xeli SeuSala da bevrma ‘Camowera~.<br />

sabednierod, zebedam SeZlo usiamovno<br />

periodis gadalaxva da axla,<br />

25 wlis asakSi, gviCvena, rom saqar-<br />

TvelosTvis gamarjvebebis motana<br />

SeuZlia. imedia, parizuli vercxli<br />

misi aRmasvlis mxolod dasawyisi<br />

iqneba da momavalSi kidev ufro<br />

did gamarjvebebs miaRwevs.<br />

rexviaSvilma turniri bulgareli<br />

ivailo ivanovis damarcxebiT<br />

daiwyo, Semdeg ki ungrel atila<br />

ungvaris, frang baptist piersa da<br />

mis Tanamemamule pape dudu ndiaes<br />

sZlia. finalSi zebedas metoqe<br />

holandieli frank de viti iyo.<br />

oqros medlis bedi damatebiT<br />

droSi gadawyda.<br />

rexviaSvilis garda, am wonaSi<br />

Tamaz kirakozaSvilmac mosinja<br />

Zalebi, romelmac jer Cinel rigaqi<br />

nais ajoba, mere ki braziliel<br />

eduardo iudi santosTan waago.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. frank de viti<br />

(holandia), 2. zebeda rexviaSvili<br />

(saqarTvelo), 3. baptist pieri (safrangeTi),<br />

pape dudu ndiae (safrangeTi).<br />

90 kg: zeda wonaSi gadasuli<br />

avTandil WrikiSvilisTvis parizuli<br />

grandslemi warumatebeli<br />

aRmoCnda – evropisa da msoflios<br />

Cempioni frang aqsel klerJesTan<br />

damarcxda. beqa RviniaSvili<br />

ki, romelic 90-Si 100 kilogramidan<br />

dabrunda, sabolood, mexuTe<br />

adgilze gavida. senegalel tabane<br />

paiesa da iaponel kenta nagasavasTan<br />

gamarjvebiT beqa meoTxedfinalSi<br />

gavida, sadac samxreTkoreel<br />

dongan gvakTan waago. damamSvidebel<br />

raundSi RviniaSvilma tajik<br />

qomronSox ustopirions sZlia,<br />

mesame adgilisTvis SexvedraSi<br />

ki damatebiT droSi sloveniel<br />

mihael JgankTan waago.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. xunWao Cengi<br />

(CineTi), 2. aqsel kler-<br />

Je (safrangeTi), 3. dongan<br />

gvaki (samxreT korea), mihael<br />

Jganki (slovenia).<br />

100 kg: wona Seicvala varlam<br />

lipartelianmac, romelic amieridan<br />

100 kilogramSi ibrZolebs<br />

titulebisTvis. axal wonaSi sadebiuto<br />

Sejibreba man sakmaod rigianad<br />

iWidava da brinjaos medali<br />

calsaxad dadebiT Sedegad unda<br />

SevufasoT.<br />

pirveli brZola varlamma saudis<br />

arabeTis warmomadgenel sul-<br />

Tan maniasTan iolad moigo, mere<br />

ki rus adlan bisulTanovsac ajoba.<br />

meoTxedfinalSi liparteliani<br />

iaponel amomaval varskvlavTan, 18<br />

wlis kentaro iidasTan damarcxda,<br />

repeSaJSi ki germanel karl-rixard<br />

fraisa da holandiel mixael<br />

korels sZlia.<br />

amave wonaSi laSa tavelurmac<br />

iWidava, romelmac jer brazilieli<br />

lusiano korea daamarcxa, ris<br />

Semdegac xorvat zlatko kumriC-<br />

Tan waago.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. kentaro iida (iaponia),<br />

2. siril mare (safrangeTi), 3.<br />

varlam liparteliani (saqarTvelo),<br />

JorJe fonseka (portugalia).<br />

+100 kg: ar uWidavia beWdaudebel<br />

frang tedi riners, rac<br />

grandslemis monawileebs saCempiono<br />

motivacias uzrdida. levan<br />

matiaSvils pirvelive wreSi titulovani<br />

iaponeli riu SiCinoe Sexvda<br />

da masTan araferi gamouvida,<br />

guram TuSiSvili ki, sabolood,<br />

mexuTe adgilze gavida. guramma<br />

frangi nabil Jalagi da holandieli<br />

roi meieri daamarcxa, meoTxedfinalSi<br />

ki momaval CempionTan,<br />

iaponel takeSi ojitanisTan waago.<br />

damamSvidebel etapze jer rus andrei<br />

volkovs sZlia, Semdeg ki<br />

monRol durenbaiar ulzibaiar-<br />

Tan damarcxda.<br />

kvarcxlbeki: 1. takeSi ojitani<br />

(iaponia), 2. riu SiCinoe (iaponia),<br />

3. rafael silva (brazilia), durenbaiar<br />

ulzibaiari (monRoleTi).<br />

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borjRalosnebma<br />

weliwadi<br />

gamarjvebiT<br />

daiwyes<br />

saqarTvelos saragbo erovnulma<br />

nakrebma wlis pirveli mat-<br />

Ci belgiaSi Caatara da, molodinisamebr,<br />

damajereblad gaimarjva.<br />

imis miuxedavad, rom borjRalosanTa<br />

axalzelandielma<br />

Tavkacma, milton heigma, gundSi<br />

bevr axalwveuls uxmo da nakrebi<br />

eqsperimentuli SemadgenlobiT<br />

aTamaSa, belgielebTan dapirispirebaSi<br />

mainc upirobo favoritebi<br />

viyaviT. briuselSi borjRalosnebma<br />

oTxi upasuxo lelo<br />

dades da `ragbi evropis Cempionatis~<br />

pirvel turSi 31:6 gaimarjves.<br />

am sezonidan `ragbi evropaze~<br />

premiis daricxvis wesi Seicvala<br />

_ mas metoqeze samiT meti lelos<br />

damdebi gundi iRebs. Sesabamisad,<br />

Cveni nakrebi pirveli gaxda, vinc<br />

es SeZlo, da titulis SenarCunebisken<br />

pirveli nabijic gadadga.<br />

belgiasTan borjRalosanTa<br />

sastarto TxuTmeteulSi eqvsi<br />

iseTi moragbe iyo, visac 10 kepic<br />

ki ar moexveWa. marqafaSic ijda<br />

erTi aseTi, iqve myof kidev oTxs<br />

ki briuselSi debiuti hqonda. radgan<br />

Secvlaze oTxive Sevida,<br />

pirveli kepebi moixveWes Tornike<br />

mataraZem, soso bekoSvilma,<br />

giorgi cucqiriZem da giorgi Wy-<br />

oiZem. amiT „borjRalosani amqris“<br />

wevrTa odenoba 245 gaxda.<br />

TamaSi TovlSi, atalaxebul<br />

moedanze gaimarTa, ramac sanaxaobriv<br />

mxares daRi daasva. bevri<br />

iyo teqnikuri wuni, jarima da pauza.<br />

metoqe, oTxi wlis winandelis<br />

msgavsad, arasportuli me-<br />

TodebiT Seecada situaciis daZabvas,<br />

magram Cvenma gamocdilma<br />

moragbeebi axalbedebi daamSvides<br />

_ Cxubi da sasjeli Tavidan airides.<br />

radgan tempi dabali iyo, gadamwyveti<br />

sityva Serkinebam Tqva.<br />

pirvel taimSi TamaSi mxolod metoqis<br />

naxevarze midioda. lelos<br />

male gatana rom ver moxerxda, angariSi<br />

me-12 wuTze jarimiT merab<br />

kvirikaSvilma gaxsna - 3:0.<br />

23-e wuTze ki pirveli lelo<br />

miviTvaleT: derefans moli mohyva<br />

da burTi TxilaiSvilma daamiwa,<br />

xolo kvirikaSvilma gardasaxa<br />

- 10:0. 39-e wuTze ki, laSa<br />

xmalaZis pasiT, koSaZem xazi gaWra<br />

da karieris pirveli sanakrebo<br />

lelo ZelebSua miiTvala. kvirikaSvils<br />

gardasaxvis gatana ar gasWirvebia<br />

- taimi 17:0 dasrulda.<br />

meore taimis dasawyisSi maspin-<br />

Zlebi pirvelad da erTaderTxel<br />

mouaxlovdnen Cvens lelos,<br />

magram wiTel zolSi Tavi kargad<br />

davicaviT. belgiam ieriSebi gaagrZela<br />

da ori jarimiT CamorCena<br />

Seamcira - 17:6.<br />

TamaSSi Cveni marqafa CaerTo.<br />

debiutantma burjebma vizavebi<br />

daCagres da sajarimo lelo gamoimuSaves,<br />

kvirikaSvilma ki zustad<br />

daartya - 24:6.<br />

bolos borjRalosnebma derefnidan<br />

Seuties moliT, misi Caqcevis<br />

Semdeg jer oTar giorgaZe<br />

mieZala, mere ki _ beqa gorgaZe da<br />

lelos xazic gadakveTa. gardasaxva<br />

laSa malaRuraZem Seasrula<br />

da saboloo Sedegi daafiqsira<br />

- 31:6.<br />

`didi brZola gadavixadeT.<br />

aseT amindSi swrafi ragbis Tama-<br />

Si ver gamogvivida, ufro Serkinebaze<br />

orientirebuli ragbi iyo.<br />

cxadia, pirveli naxevari momewona<br />

_ am dros vdominirebdiT. meore<br />

taimis dasawyisSi iniciativa<br />

garkveuli droiT xelidan gavuSviT,<br />

magram TamaSi maleve SemovabruneT.<br />

mTlianobaSi, SedegiTa<br />

da bonusis mopovebiT kmayofili<br />

var.<br />

ukanaxazelebs Tu ar CavTvliT,<br />

Cveni saukeTeso ostatebi belgiaSi<br />

ar Camogviyvania. 2019<br />

wlis msoflio Tasamde gamocdilebis<br />

dagrovebis SesaZlebloba<br />

axalbedebs miveciT. da mainc,<br />

Cveni mizani „ragbi evropis Cempionatis“<br />

mogebaa~, _ ganacxada<br />

namatCevs milton heigma.<br />

kviras, 19 Tebervals, saqarTvelo-germaniaa.<br />

matCi rusTavis<br />

saragbo stadionze 15 saaTze<br />

daiwyeba. bileTebi kviris ganmavlobaSi<br />

gaiyideba.<br />

gaimarTa `ragbi evropis~ Cempionatis<br />

pirveli turis danarCeni<br />

ori matCic da oriveSi sensaciuri<br />

Sedegi dafiqsirda. germaniam<br />

rumineTs umaspinZla da 41:38<br />

daamarcxa, espaneTi ki ruseTs<br />

dauxvda da 16:6 sZlia.<br />

belgia – saqarTvelo 6:31<br />

belgia: meusi, dauseTi, pironi,<br />

brebani, reinarti, k. uiliamsi,<br />

berJe, soto, diensti, de klerki,<br />

koradi, vervorti, van lari,<br />

leskarbura, demolderi<br />

Secvlaze Sevidnen: diubua, debati,<br />

de bakeri, bili, benua, bontemi,<br />

a. uiliamsi, koku<br />

saqarTvelo: kvirikaSvili,<br />

fruiZe, koSaZe, SariqaZe, Todua,<br />

xmalaZe, begaZe, TeTraSvili, alxazaSvili,<br />

meliqiZe, nemsaZe, WeiSvili,<br />

lomiZe, TxilaiSvili, gorgaZe<br />

Secvlaze Sevidnen: wiklauri,<br />

malaRuraZe, xuciSvili, WyoiZe,<br />

mataraZe, bekoSvili, giorgaZe,<br />

cucqiriZe<br />

4 lelo: TxilaiSvili, koSaZe,<br />

sajarimo, gorgaZe<br />

4 gardasaxva: kvirikaSvili (3),<br />

malaRuraZe<br />

1 jarima: kvirikaSvili<br />

1 sinbini: kvirikaSvili<br />

grozni dinamodan wavida<br />

ukrainelma viaCeslav groznim `dinamo Tbilisis~ mTavari mwvrT-<br />

nelis Tanamdeboba datova. klubi, oficialurad, amis mizezad 60<br />

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