qronika+270

CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK 

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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com 

gamodis samSabaTobiT N9 9 (270) 19.03 

03.201 

.2019 fasi 2 lari 

nestan kirTaZe: 

`patriarqi, 

rasakvirvelia, 

martoa!~ 

anaklia _ Tanamedrove 

òqros sawmisi~, anu 

`vefxistyaosnidan~ 

`damplur TamaSebamde~ 

`bombi, romelsac 

wulukiani 

òcnebas~ 

aufeTqebs~ 

gv. 30 

eqskluzivi 

arCil kbilaSvili: 

àdvokati im 

qirurgs hgavs, 

romelmac 

operacia unda 

Caataros da 

sicocxle 

gadaarCinos~ 

gv. 2 

Tina bokuCava 

ìvaniSvili 

dasustebulia da 

xelidan ecleba yvela~ 

gv. 8 

gv. 14 

`parlamentSi, 

sadac 

sportsmenebi 

da msaxiobebi 

arian, is 

qveyana 

daRupulia~ 

`qarTuli ocneba~ 

didi, epoqaluri 

tyuili iyo~ 

msoflio 

CempionatTan 

dakavSirebuli 

qarTuli afera 

da skandalSi 

gaxveuli 

saerTaSoriso 

kompaniebi 

gv. 26 

nika CitaZe: 

`politikuri 

yvaryvarizmis 

epoqa unda 

damTavrdes~ 

ìs, rac 

ruseTma 

2008 wels 

tankebiT ver 

gaakeTa, 2012- 

Si trolebiT 

SeZlo!~ 

gv. 16 

gv. 10 

`qarTul ocnebas~ 

gamarjvebis 

Sansi ar gaaCnia~ 

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eliso kilaZe 

599 17 12 12 

sasamarTlo dava, romelic TbilisSi 

petriaSvilis q. #1-Si mdebare Rvinis qarxnis istoriul 

Senobas exeba, meoTxe welia, grZeldeba. obieqti dRevandelma 

mesakuTreebma ori msxvili komerciuli bankisgan gam- 

oisyides. 

ori instanciis sasamarTlom mosarCeleebis sarCeli ar 

daakmayofila, uzenaesi sasamarTlos kolegiam (besarion alaviZe, 

zurab ZlieraSvili, paata qaTamaZe) ki uprecedento gada- 

wyvetileba miiRo da saqme isev saapelacio sasamarTloSi 

daabruna. 

Tbilisis saapelacio sasamarTloSi saqmes mosamarTleTa 

Semadgenloba qeTevan mesxiSvilis TavmjdomareobiT ganix- 

ilavs. kolegiis SemadgenlobaSi Sedian mosamarTleebi Tamar 

alania da Tamar zambaxiZe. sasamarTlo procesi daskvniT 

etapze gaurkveveli droiTaa gadadebuli. 

„qronika+~, amjerad, mosar- 

Cele mxaris, ss „savane Rvinis #1 

qarxnis” advokats, yofil mTavar 

prokuror arCil kbilaS- 

vils esaubreba: 

_ batono arCil, rogorc 

cnobilia, Tqven icavT ss „savane 

Rvinis #1 qarxnis” interesebs, 

romelic amJamad sasamarT- 

loSi daobs, rom aRidginos 

sakuTrebis ufleba petriaSvilis 

#1-Si arsebul Rvinis qarx- 


cionerTa Soris aqciebis gadanawilebasa 

da maT Soris erTmane- 

TSi arsebul davas, me masSi ar vmonawileobdi 

da Sesabamisad, ver 

getyviT, ra procesebi moxda. 

_ batono arCil, „savanis” aq- 

cionerTa erTi nawili brals 

sdebda baton giorgi mgalob- 

liSvils Rvinis qarxnis qonebis 

ukanono miTvisebaSi. imisTvis, 

rom ufro naTeli movfinoT 

aRniSnul sakiTxs, Tu SeiZleba, 

nakveTi vladimer comaiaze gaasxvisa. 

_ batono arCil, TqvenTvis, 

albaT, kargad cnobilia ganaCeni, 

romelic Rvinis qarxnis xe- 

lmZRvaneli pirebis winaaRmdeg 

dadga, rodesac aTamde piri 

sisxlis samarTlis pasuxisgeba- 

Si misces imis gamo, rom maT 

brali daedoT organizebuli 

jgufis gamoyenebiT sxvisi niv- 

Tis motyuebiT dauflebaSi. im 

dros mocemul saqmeze gamoZie- 

bas awarmoebda saqarTvelos ge- 

neraluri prokuratura, romelic 

miiCnevda, rom am organize- 

buli jgufis xelmZRvaneli iyo 

swored giorgi mgalobliSvili 

da romelsac icavdiT piradad 

Tqven. Tu SeiZleba, mkiTxvels 

rom ganumartoT, xarT Tu ara 

igive poziciaze, rom im dros 

batoni giorgi mgalobliSvilis 

mimarT wardgenili brali us- 

afuZvlo iyo? Tu dRevandeli 

gadmosaxedidan fiqrobT, rom im 

dros saqarTvelos generaluri 

prokuratura samarTlianad 

Tumca drois garkveul period- 

Si icavdiT aseve am kompaniis anu 

„savanis 

savanis” qonebis mTavar mimTvise 

sebels. aRniSnuli xom ar giqm- 

niT diskomforts da ramdenad 

sworia, iyo erTdroulad damnaSavisa 

da dazaralebulis ad- 

vokati? 

_ es sakiTxi zneobriv kategorias 

ar ganekuTvneba. arc „komforti” 

da „diskomforti” gamodgeba 

Sesafaseblad. advokati im 

qirurgs hgavs, romelmac operacia 

unda Caataros da sicocxle 

gadaarCinos. qirurgs ar aqvs ufleba 

dainteresdes, Tu vin wevs 

mis saoperacio magidaze _ kriminali 

Tu saqveynod cnobili 

akademikosi. man operacia erTnairi 

xarisxiT unda Caataros. asea 

advokatic. man erTnairi maRali 

standartiT unda daicvas misi 

klientis interesi, vinc ar unda 

iyos igi. rogorc eqimisTvis, 

aseve advokatisTvisac ar arseboben 

cudi da kargi adamianebi. 

amitom SezRudva zneobriv kategoriaSi 

an komfortSi ki ar aris, 

turis meSveobiT giorgi mga- 

lobliSvilis mimarT sisxlis 

samarTlis devna Sewyda. Tu Sei- 

Zleba, mkiTxvels gaacnoT, ram- 

denad simarTles Seesabameba es 

informacia da Tu ar Seesabameba, 

maSin sazogadoebas rom ganumartoT, 

im dros Tqveni xelmZRvanelobiT 

saqarTvelos mTavar- 

ma prokuraturam ra safuZvliT 

Sewyvita sisxlis samarTlis 

devna Tqveni yofili klientis, 

giorgi mgalobliSvilis mimarT 

im pirobebSi, rodesac aTamde 

piri amave danaSaulze iyo ukve 

gasamarTlebuli da sasjel- 

moxdili? 

_ Tqveni kiTxva Seicavs faqtobriv 

usworobas, rodesac acxadebT, 

rom Cemi xelmZRvanelobis 

periodSi „uSualod saqarTvelos 

mTavari prokuraturis meSveobiT 

giorgi mgalobliSvilis 

mimarT sisxlis samarTlis devna 

Sewyda”. 

xelisuflebis Secvlis Semdeg, 

2012 wlis 28 dekembers, miRebul 

iqna kanoni „amnistiis Sesax- 

arCil kbilaSvili: 

àdvokati im qirurgs 

hgavs, romelmac 

operacia unda 

Caataros da sicocxle 

gadaarCinos~ 

nis teritoriaze. sanam ss „savanis” 

sasarCelo moTxovnis Sesax- 

eb visaubrebdeT, jer SevexoT 

uSualod „savanis” SigniT momx- 

dar movlenebs, radgan am nawil- 

Sic arsebobs seriozuli kiTx- 

vebi da „savanis” araerTi aqcioneri 

miiCnevs Tavs dazarale- 

bulad. kerZod, Tu SeiZleba, 

mkiTxvels mouyveT im procese- 

bis Sesaxeb, rodesac 2000 wels 

„savaneSi”, rogorc saaqcio sa- 

zogadoebaSi, iwyeba aqcionerTa 

axali jgufis Semosvla giorgi 

mgalobliSvilis uSualo monaw- 

ileobiT. ufro konkretulad 

ki, Tu SeiZleba, Cveni gazeTis 

mkiTxvels rom gaacnoT, ra xe- 

lSekruleba gaformda „savanesa” 

da Sps „imperial jorjian vain- 

ss” Soris da ra saxis investi- 

ciebi ganaxorciela aRniSnulma 

kompaniam „savanis” kapitalSi? 

_ ss „savane Rvinis #1 qarxnis” 

interesebs 2014 wlis dekembridan 

vicav, rodesac sarCeli 

Sevida sasamarTloSi, q. TbilisSi, 

petriaSvilis quCa #1-Si 

mdebare uZrav qonebaze „ss savane 

Rvinis #1 qarxnis” sakuTrebis 

uflebis aRdgenis moTxovniT 

da vici, rom am sarCels qarxnis 

yvela aqcioneri uWers mxars. 

manamde ganviTarebul proceseb- 

Si, romelic Seexeba saaqcio sazogadoebis 

Camoyalibebas, aq- 

Cveni gazeTis mkiTxvels rom 

gaacnoT, Tu rogor gaxda batoni 

giorgi mgalobliSvili saaq- 

cio sazogadoeba „savanis” aqcie- 

bis 50%-is mesakuTre im pirob- 

ebSi, rodesac uSualod baton 

giorgi mgalobliSvils aqciebi 

ar SeuZenia da arc kompaniisT- 

vis gadauxdia raime Tanxa? ana- 

logiurad, mkiTxvelisTvis, vfi- 

qrob, saintereso iqneba Tqveni 

ganmartebebi imis Sesaxeb, Tu 

rogor moipova batoni giorgi 

mgalobliSvilis mamam, mixeil 

mgalobliSvilma, Rvinis qarxnis 

teritoriis mniSvnelovani naw- 

ili pirdapir sakuTrebaSi maSin, 

rodesac masac, sakuTari Svilis 

msgavsad, konkretuli Tanxa 

qonebis SeZenaSi ar gadauxdia? 

_ Cems xelT arsebuli informaciiT 

giorgi mgalobliSvili 

arasodes yofila ss „savane Rvinis 

#1 qarxnis” aqciebis 50%-is 

mesakuTre, rac Seexeba mis mamas 

_ mixeil mgalobliSvils, samoqalaqo 

saqmeSi arsebuli monacemebiT, 

man qarxnis qonebis erTi 

nawili _ 1300 kv.m. miwis nakveTi 

2004 wlis 12 noembers 75.000 larad 

SeiZina jefri terens kokijisagan. 

mixeil mgalobliSvili am 

miwis nakveTis mesakuTre iyo 2006 

wlis 27 dekembramde, rodesac am 

ukanasknelma, warmomadgenlis 

meSveobiT, zemoaRniSnuli miwis 

edaveboda baton giorgi mgalobliSvils 

Rvinis qarxnis motyuebiT 

miTvisebas da aqcio- 

nerebis dazaralebas? 

_ sinamdviles Seesabameba is 

faqti, rom me braldebul giorgi 

mgalobliSvilis advokati 

viyavi Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi 

mis winaaRmdeg warmar- 

Tul sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi. 

klientis uflebebis dacva saadvokato 

saqmianobis fuZemdebluri 

principia, xolo klientis 

interesebis prioritetuloba 

advokatis profesiuli saqmianobis 

ZiriTadi principia. miuxedavad 

imisa, rom dRes me ar var 

giorgi mgalobliSvilis advokati, 

im saqmeSi, romelSic vmonawileobdi, 

misi interesebis prioritetulobis 

movaleoba dro- 

Si SeuzRudavad mekisreba. Sesabamisad, 

advokats ar aqvs ufleba, 

klientTan dakavSirebiT poziciebi 

icvalos droSi da klientis 

Sesaxeb isaubros advokatis 

dRevandeli Tu yofili Tanamdebobidan 

gamomdinare an, Tundac, 

rogorc Tqven ambobT, „dRevandeli 

gadmosaxedidan”. mokled, 

dasmul kiTxvebze pasuxis gacema 

SeuTavsebelia advokatis eTikas- 

Tan. 

_ batono arCil, dRes Tqven 

icavT uSualod saaqcio sazoga- 

doebas anu kompania „savanes 

savanes”, 

aramed igi SeiZleba arsebobdes 

interesTa konfliqtSi, Tumca ki 

amJamad es konfliqtic ar arsebobs, 

radgan Cem mier qarxnis interesebis 

amJamindeli warmomadgenloba 

SevaTanxme giorgi mgalobliSvilTan, 

xolo, Tavis 

mxriv, ss „savane Rvinis #1-ma 

qarxanam” icoda, rom me warsul- 

Si giorgi mgalobliSvilis advokati 

viyavi. 

_ batono arCil, yvelas kar- 

gad moexseneba, rom 2012 wels, 

axali xelisuflebis mosvlis 

Semdeg, Tqven gaxdiT saqarTve- 

los mTavari prokurori. 

swored am periodSi aqtiurad 

daisva wina xelisuflebis mier 

devnili pirebis reabilitaciis 

sakiTxi da saqarTvelos parlamentma 

am TvalsazrisiT gadad- 

ga kidec konkretuli nabijebi. 

am SekiTxvas gisvamT swored Rv- 

inis qarxnis mimarT Cadenili 

danaSaulis konteqstSi. kerZod, 

Rvinis qarxnis qonebis miTvisebis 

organizatorobaSi bralde- 

buli giorgi mgalobliSvili, 

Cven mier mopovebuli infor- 

maciis mixedviT, Tavdapirvelad 

cdilobda, rom misi „gamarTle- 

ba” momxdariyo swored saqar- 

Tve 

velos parlamentis meSveobiT 

da mas Semdeg, rac aRniSnuli 

ver ganxorcielda, uSualod 

saqarTvelos mTavari prokura- 

eb”, romlis me-11 muxliT sasjelis 

moxdisgan unda ganTavisuflebuliyo 

yvela piri, romelmac 

Caidina sisxlis samarTlis 

kodeqsis 180-e muxliT (TaRli- 

Toba) gaTvaliswinebuli danaSauli, 

Tuki dazaralebuli piri 

Tanxmobas ganacxadebda msjavrdebuli 

piris mimarT amnistiis 

gamoyenebaze. 

amave kanonis me-16 muxliT ki 

yvela msjavrdebuls sasjeli 

erTi meoTxediT Seumcirda (visac 

kanonis konkretuli muxli 

ar exeboda). 

SegaxsenebT, rom amnistiis kanonis 

amoqmedebis droisTvis giorgi 

mgalobliSvili swored 180- 

e muxliT iyo damnaSaved cnobili 

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlos 

2008 wlis 10 dekembris ganaCeniT 

da 7 wliT Tavisuflebis 

aRkveTa hqonda misjili. 

2013 wlis 10 maiss Tbilisis 

saqalaqo sasamarTlom, romelic 

giorgi mgalobliSvilisTvis amnistiis 

kanonis normebis Sefardebaze 

msjelobda, miiRo ganCineba, 

romliTac giorgi mgalobliSvils 

misjili 7 weli 4 wlamde 

da 10 Tvemde Seumcira (anu 

sasjeli mxolod erTi meoTxediT 

Seumcira). sasamarTlom ar 

gaiTvaliswina is garemoeba, rom 

giorgi mgalobliSvilis sasjelisagan 

srulad ganTavisufle- 

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as mxars uWerda dazaralebuli 

_ saaqcio sazogadoebis direqtori. 

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom 

es faqtori ar gaiTvaliswina, 

radgan giorgi mgalobliSvilis 

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi 

dazaralebulad aravin iyo 

cnobili (rac, Tavis mxriv, saqmis 

xarvezs warmoadgenda, Tumca 

es sxva sakiTxia). aseT viTarebaSi 


dazaralebulad miiCnia ara 

saaqcio sazogadoeba, aramed saxelmwifo. 

prokuraturis warmomadgenelma 

ki, romelic procesze 

saxelmwifos saxeliT gamodioda, 

mxari ar dauWira giorgi 

mgalobliSvilis sasjelisgan 

srulad ganTavisuflebas. aRniSnulis 

safuZvelze giorgi mgalobliSvilma 

Tbilisis saqalaqo 

sasamarTlos ganCineba saqarTvelos 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi gaasa- 

Civra, romelmac prokuraturis 

winaaRmdegobis miuxedavad, 2013 

wlis 24 ivliss, giorgi mgalobliSvili 

sasjelisgan srulad 

gaaTavisufla, radgan uzenaesma 

sasamarTlom miiCnia, rom miuxedavad 

saqmeSi aseTi dokumentis 

ararsebobisa, am saqmeSi dazaralebuli 

iyo saaqcio sazogadoeba, 

romelic Tanaxma gaxldaT 

giorgi mgalobliSvilis mimarT 

amnistiis srulad gavrcelebaze. 

ai, aseTia sinamdvile. 

da kidev erTi detali: CemTvis 

am procesis mimdinareobis Sesaxeb 

imJamad sruliad ar iyo cnobili 

(msgavsi aTasobiT procesi 

midioda). am sakiTxiT davinteresdi 

axla, rodesac ss „savane Rvinis 

#1 qarxnis” mowinaaRmdege 

mxaris warmomadgenelma araer- 

Txel ganacxada procesze, rom 

TiTqosda giorgi mgalobliSvilis 

mimarT sisxlis samarTlebrivi 

devna Cemi xelSewyobiT Sewyda. 

amis uarsayofad me giorgi 

mgalobliSvils davukavSirdi, 

romelmac momawoda kidec zemoaRniSnuli 

informacia. Tu dainteresdebiT, 

SemiZlia mogawodoT 

kidec uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

zemoaRniSnuli ganCinebac, romelic 

me giorgi mgalobliSvilma 

gamomigzavna. 

_ batono arCil, axla ukve 

gadavideT uSualod Rvinis 

qarxnis mimarT ganviTarebul 

procesebze. rogorc mogex- 

senebaT, gazeTi „qronika+~ aqti- 

urad aSuqebs am movlenebs da, 

maT Soris, qronologiurad gac- 

nobili varT im procesebs, 

rome 

melic aRniSnuli obieqtis 

mimarT droSi ganviTarda. 

swored am konteqstSi gvainter- 

esebs SevexoT 2008-2009 wlebis 

movlenebs. anu periods, rode- 

sac Rvinis qarxana jer kidev ar 

iyo gasxvisebuli sxvadasxva pir- 

sa Tu kompanias Soris. kerZod 

Cven mier mopovebuli infor- 

maciiT, 2009 wels Tqven icavdiT 

korporacia „kapital menejment 

investments”. sxvaTa Soris, 

aRniSnuli kompania uSualod 

iyo mxilebuli Rvinis qarxnis 

qonebis miTvisebaSi. ganaCeni, 

romelic zemoT vaxseneT, qarxnis 

miTvisebis erT-erT figurantad 

asaxelebs swored korporacia 

kapital menejment in- 

vestments, romelsac xelmZRv- 

anelobda giorgi mgalobliSvilis 

naTesavi zurab margvelaS- 

vili. rogorc Cven gvaqvs in- 

formacia, Tqven am kompaniis 

advokati iyaviT da 2009 wels 

amtkicebdiT, rom im dros saq- 

arTvelos xelisuflebis ukano- 

no da danaSaulebrivi CareviT, 

raSic monawileobdnen saqarTvelos 

generaluri prokuratur- 

is maRalCinosnebi, Tqvenma klientma, 

korporacia „kapital me- 

nejment investmentma” ukanonod 

dakarga qoneba. anu mas qoneba 

waarTva saxelmwifom da Tqven im 

dros iTxovdiT, rom qonebis 

sakuTreba aRdgenoda swored 

korporacia „kapital menejment 

investments”. batono arCil, Tu 

es informacia sworia, maSin Tu 

SeiZleba, gazeTis mkiTxvels 

rom ganumartoT, ram ganapiroba 

amJamad Tqveni poziciis cv- 

lileba, rodesac amJamad ukve 

amtkicebT, rom qonebaze sakuTreba 

unda aRudges ara korporacia 

„kapital menejment investments”, 

aramed „saaqcio sa- 

zogadoeba savanes”? 

_ sinamdviles Seesabameba informacia 

imis Sesaxeb, rom 2009- 

11 wlebSi me Tbilisis saqalaqo 

sasamarTloSi warmovadgendi korporacia 

„kapital menejment investmentis” 

interesebs, romli- 

Tac igi CamorTmeuli qonebis ukan 

dabrunebas iTxovda. korporaciis 

sarCeli emyareboda im garemoebas, 

rom korporaciis warmomadgenelma, 

korporaciis mier 

SeZenili qoneba, korporaciis 

nebis sawinaaRmdegod daTmo. 

aRniSnul saqmeze sasamarTlos 

mier Semajamebeli gadawyvetileba 

ar yofila miRebuli, radgan 


2011 wlis 18 oqtombers saqmis 

ganxilva Sewyvita. aseTi iyo am 

saqmis procesualuri Sedegi. 

rac Seexeba Tqvens kiTxvas, _ 

Cemi poziciis cvlilebis Sesax- 

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eb, _ rasakvirvelia, araviTari 

poziciis cvlilebas Cemgan adgili 

ar aqvs. 2009-11 wlebSi warmovadgendi 

korporaciis interesebs 

da viyavi korporaciis advokati, 

romelic 2011 wels dasrulda, 

rodesac saqmis warmoeba 

Sewyda. saaqcio sazogadoebis advokati 

var 2014 wlis dekembridan, 

rodesac sasamarTloSi sar- 

Celi Sevida. sanam saaqcio sazogadoebis 

interesebis dacvas 

Sevudgebodi, aRniSnulis Sesaxeb 

korporaciis warmomadgenels 

vacnobe da saaqcio sazogadoebis 

interesebis dacvas Sevudeqi 

mas Semdeg, rac korporaciam macnoba, 

rom korporaciis mxridan 

interesTa konfliqti ar iyo. 

_ batono arCil, gvinda, isev 

gavagrZeloT is kiTxva, rac ukve 

davsviT, kerZod, rogorc zemoT 

aRvniSneT, Cven mier mopovebu- 

li informaciiT, Tqven 2009 

wels amtkicebdiT, rom Tqvenma 

klientma, korporacia „kapital 

menejment investmentma”, Rvinis 

qarxana dakarga saqarTvelos 

generaluri prokuraturis ma- 

RalCinosnebis uSualo danaSau- 

lebrivi CarTulobis Sedegad. 

gvainteresebs, mkiTxvels rom 

ganumartoT: mas Semdeg, rac 

Tqven 2012 wels gaxdiT saqar- 

Tvelos mTavari prokurori, 

minimum, sistemidan Tu daiTx- 

oveT yvela is prokurori an/da 

gamomZiebeli, romelic uSualod 

Tqven mier gadamowmebu- 

li informciiT CarTuli iyo 

Rvinis qarxnis qonebis ukanono 

warTmevis saqmeSi? 

_ es kiTxva exeba saqarTvelos 

mTavari prokuroris Tanamdebobaze 

Cems sajaro-samarTlebriv 

saqmianobas. mas Semdeg, rac me 

aRar var mTavari prokurori, ar 

maqvs eTikuri ufleba, visaubro 

prokuraturis saqmianobis detalebze 

ama Tu im saqmesTan 

dakavSirebiT. 

_ batono arCil, rogorc ze- 

moT gavusviT xazi, „qronika+ 

qronika+~ 

aqtiurad aSuqebs Rvinis qarxnis 

irgvliv ganviTarebul movle- 

nebs. Tqven, rasakvirvelia, gac- 

nobili xarT mocemul saqmeze 

saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarT- 

los mier miRebul gadawyvetil- 

ebas, romliTac saqme axlidan 

gansaxilvelad daubrunda saapelacio 

sasamarTlos. Cven mov- 

ipoveT aRniSnuli gadawyveti- 

leba, romlis gacnobis Semdegac 

STabeWdileba dagvrCa, rom neb- 

ismier pirs SegiZlia edavo qon- 

ebis ukan dabrunebis moTxovniT, 

miuxedavad imisa, rom am pirs, 

anu qonebis bolo mesakuTres, 

ar hqonia arainari Semxebloba 

modave mxaresTan da amasTan, am 

davis wamowyeba ar aris SezRuduli 

droSi, anu moTxovna Seg- 

iZlia daayeno miuxedavad imisa, 

Tu ra vadaa gasuli qonebaze 

sakuTrebis uflebis dakargvi- 

dan. batono arCil, xom ar fiqr- 

obT, rom uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

aRniSnuli daskvnebi sakmaod 

daazianebs qveyanaSi sainvesticio 

garemos, daafrTxobs inves- 

torebs da imis SiSs gauCens, rom 

erT dRes maT SeiZleba miiRon 

sarCeli, sadac modave mxare 

acxadebs, rom qoneba mas ekuTvn- 

oda 10-15 wlis winaT da amJamad 

is mas sasamarTlom unda dau- 

brunos? 

_ mkiTxvelma unda gaiTvaliswinos, 

rom am intervius Tqven 

gaZlevT, rogorc ss „savane Rvinis 

#1 qarxnis” advokati, rac 

niSnavs imas, rom Cemi pasuxebi 

unda gamomdinareobdes klientis 

interesebidan. am intervius farglebSi 

ar var arc eqsperti, miT 

ufro, arc prokurori da arc 

dauinteresebeli piri. Tqven axla 

mekiTxebiT uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

im gadawyvetilebaze, romelic 

mocemul davaze aris gamotanili 

da romlis safuZvelzec 

saqmis ganxilva axlac grZeldeba. 

procesis TiToeuli monawile 

ise ganmartavs uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebas, rogorc 

es mis procesualur interess 

Seesabameba. Tqvens kiTxvaSi 

Cemi procesualuri mowinaaRmdegis 

narativi mesmis, amitom ar mimaCnia 

mizanSewonilad, mkiTxvels 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis 

Sefaseba, Cemi saadvokato 

miznebidan gamomdinare, warmovu- 

Cino. ubralod, iseTive araobieqturi 

viqnebi, rogoric kiTxvis 

Sinaarsia. am gadawyvetilebis Sefasebas 

procesze gavakeTeb, rac 

Cems saadvokato movaleobas warmoadgens. 

_ dabolos, batono arCil, 

Tu SeiZleba gazeTis mkiTxvels 

gaacnoT is konkretuli mtkicebulebebi, 

romelic Rvinis qarx- 

nis amJamindel mesakuTreebs 

amxels qonebis ukanono dauflebaSi. 

rogorc Cven mier mopovebuli 

informaciiT dastur- 

deba, Rvinis qarxnis amJamindel 

mesakuTreebs gadaxdili aqvT 

sakmaod soliduri Tanxa. es informacia 

sajaroa da maTi yvela 

xelSekruleba, maT Soris, xe- 

lSekrulebis finansuri nawili, 

xelmisawvdomia sajaro reestr- 

Si yvela dainteresebuli pir- 

isTvis. Tu SeiZleba, gazeTis 

mkiTxvels detalurad ganumar- 

toT, ratom unda CamoerTvaT 

qoneba im pirebs, romlebic 

fiqroben, rom qoneba SeiZines 

kanonierad, masSi gadaixades 

Tanxa da saerTod ar monawile- 

obdnen im procesebSi, romelTa 

Sesaxebac zemoT gvqonda saub- 

ari Cvens SekiTxvebSi? 

_ es kiTxva, romelic Tqven 

bolosTvis moitoveT, mTel 

mravaltomian saqmes moicavs. mas 

Semdeg, rac qarxnis qoneba ss „savane 

Rvinis #1 qarxnis” nebis sawinaaRmdegod 

(2006 w.) gavida saaqcio 

sazogadoebis sakuTrebidan, 

am qonebam mesakuTreTa mravali 

Taoba gamoicvala. qonebis amJamindeli 

mesakuTre, visaganc qonebas 

viTxovT, meeqvse Taobis mesakuTrea. 

aRniSnulis miuxedavad, 

Cven vasabuTebT, rom eqvsive Taobis 

mesakuTre da, maT Soris, am- 

Jamindeli mesakuTrec (sawarmo) 

ar aris keTilsindisieri SemZeni. 

qarxnis qonebis SemZenebi an pirdapir 

monawileobdnen qarxnis 

qonebis ukanonod dasakuTrebaSi 

(„aqtiuri arakeTilsindisiereba”), 

an kidev icodnen, rom qoneba 

ukanonod iqna qarxnis sakuTrebidan 

gasuli, an kidev unda 

scodnodaT am ukanonobis Sesaxeb 

da SeeZloT kidec amis gageba 

(„pasiuri arakeTilsindisiereba”). 

cxadia, am intervius farglebSi 

da isic bolos dasmul kiTxvaSi, 

me ver SevZleb qonebis eqvsi Taobis 

SemZenTa daxasiaTebas. ufro 

detalurad rom gaigoT, SegiZliaT 

mobrZandeT saapelacio 

sasamarTlos sxdomaze. mec mzad 

var, detalurad gesaubroT Ti- 

Toeuli SemZenis mier Cadenil 

darRvevebze da calke interviuc 

mogceT, Tuki amis survili 

geqnebaT. 

3

goCa mircxulava 

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anaklia geopolitikuri mniS- 

vnelobiT Tanamedrove da xvalindeli saqarTvelosTvis „oqros 

sawmisis” samSobloSi dabrunebis tolfasi faseulobaa. misi 

mSenebloba da, zogadad, anakliis ideis ganxorcieleba ki um- 

niSvnelovanesi erovnuli aqti gaxlavT. anaklia, rogorc simbo- 

lo, „vefxistyaosnis” kodis gaxsnac aris, rodesac uamravi ucxo 

tomeli erTi ideisTvis erTiandeba. yuradReba miaqcieT ucxo 

tomeli _ arabidan dawyebuli, xvarazmeliT dasrulebuli. 

anaklia _ „Sin da gareT” qaje- 

Tis dangrevisa da gamarjvebis 

udidebulesi simboloc aris. 

swored amitom, Tu gvinda anak- 

lia, isic unda gaviazroT, rom es 

zogaderovnuli, umniSvnelovanesi 

proeqti Cveni qveynis mdgomar- 

eobis pirobebSi ganxorcieldeba 

ara urapatriotuli suliskveT- 

ebiT _ „anaklia qarTvelma unda 

aaSenos”, aramed swored rom „ve- 

fxistyaosnis” simbolizmze dayrdnobiT 

_ rogorc transnacionaluri 

interesebis Sekrebis cen- 

tri da gnebavT, zogadsakacobrio 

(mesmis, rom xmamaRali naTqvamia) 

konteqstis mqone idea. 


moebac, rom realuri saproeqto 

monaxazi im periodSi jerac ar arsebobda 

_ iyo mxolod koncefcia. 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebam 

uari Tqva „lazikaze” da saku- 

Tar proeqts anaklia daarqva. cxadia, 

rom maTTvisac gasagebi gaxda, 

Tu ra strategiuli mniSvneloba 

hqonda am proeqts saxelmwifos 

ganviTarebisTvis. 

...daiwyo... 

2014 wlis ivlisSi saqarTvelos 

ekonomikisa da mdgradi ganviTarebis 

saministrom, saqarTvelos mTavrobis 

saxeliT, anakliis Rrmawylovani 

portis proeqtze interes- 

Ta gamoxatva gamoacxada. marTalia, 

proeqti erTi-erTSi ar imeorebda 

saakaSviliseul ideas, magram 

es iyo namdvili garRveva Tavisi 

strategiuli da geopolitikuri 

mniSvnelobiT. RonisZiebas mTavrobis 

wevrebTan erTad, saqarTvelos 

premier-ministri irakli 

RaribaSvili daeswro. 

„me mjera, rom anakliis porti 

iqneba erT-erTi mTavari savizito 

baraTi saqarTvelosTvis da es 

proeqti istoriul mniSvnelobas 

SeiZens. Cven am sakiTxze Zalian 

bevri vimuSaveT da portis aSenebis 

gadawyvetileba mxolod mas Semdeg 

miviReT, rac kvlevebi Catarda 

da kvalificiuri daskvna daido. 

igi saqarTvelosTvis erT-erT 

yvelaze sicocxlisunariani da 

perspeqtiuli proeqtia”, _ ganacxada 

imJamad qveynis premier-ministrma 

irakli RaribaSvilma anakliis 

portis proeqtis prezentaciaze 

sityviT gamosvlisas. 

anakliis portis mniSvnelobasa 

da ekonomikur sargebelze detalurad 

isaubra saqarTvelos ekonomikisa 

da mdgradi ganviTarebis 

imJamidelma ministrma giorgi kvirikaSvilma: 

„anakliis porti gaxdeba 

saqarTvelos mTavari sazRvao 

karibWe, samxreT kavkasiis regionis 

erT-erTi mTavari lojistikuri 

centri. aRniSnuli proeqtis 

gansaxorcieleblad daixarjeba 

asobiT milioni dolaris ucxouri 

da adgilobrivi investicia, portis 

mimdebared amoqmeddeba lojistikuri 

centrebi, ganviTardeba 

ekonomikuri klasteri da Seiqmneba 

axali samuSao adgilebi, rac 

xels Seuwyobs ara mxolod samegrelos 

regionis, aramed mTeli qveynis 

ganviTarebas. migvaCnia, rom 

Cveni qveynis istoriaSi, bolo aTwleulebis 

ganmavlobaSi, anakliis 

portis mSenebloba iqneba erT-er- 

Ti yvelaze mniSvnelovani proeqti 

qveynis ekonomikuri ganviTarebis 

TvalsazrisiT”. 

potenciuri investorebisgan 

anakliaSi Rrmawylovani portisa 

da satransporto kvanZis ganvi- 

Tarebisadmi interesTa gamoxatvis 

vada 2014 wlis pirvel oq- 

tombers unda dasrulebuliyo. 

giorgi kvirikaSvilis gancxadebiT, 

kandidatebis SerCeva moxde- 

boda gamWvirvale procedurebiT, 

gansakuTrebuli yuradReba gamax- 

vildeboda gamocdilebaze ana- 

logiuri sirTulis, masStabisa da 

tipis proeqtebis ganviTarebis, 

marTvisa da dafinansebis kuTxiT 

(es adgili kargad daimaxsovreT, 

movlenebis Semdgomi ganviTarebisa 

da analizisTvis dagvWirdeba). 

amave dRes saqarTvelos mTavrobam 

anakliis portis mSeneblobis 

dawyebis savaraudo TariRad 

2015 wlis Semodgoma daasaxela. 

„saqarTvelos mTavrobis survilia, 

es porti kerZo kapitaliT 

aSendes”, _ es sityvebic giorgi 

kvirikaSvils ekuTvnis da urigo 

ar iqneba, Tu am frazasac davimaxsovrebT 

mis Semdgom komentarTan 

erTad: „winaswari gaTvlebiT, portis 

Rirebuleba 700 milionidan 

800-900 milion dolaramde iqneba, 

mTlianad lojistikuri da sawar- 

moo zonis ganviTareba ki ramdenime 

miliardiani proeqtia, romelic 

saqarTvelos Semdeg 10 weliwadSi 

Zlier ekonomikur zrdas 

moutans”. 

amave dRes aRiniSna, rom „anakliis 

porti iqneba evropisa da aziis 

damakavSirebeli umoklesi gza. 

magaliTad, CineTidan evropaSi konteineris 

gadazidvas mxolod 17 

dRe dasWirdeba. vfiqrobT, am 

proeqtis ganxorcielebis Sedegad 

bevri samuSao adgili gaCndeba. dasaqmdeba 

adgilobrivi mosaxleoba”. 

anakliis portis proeqti gulisxmobda 

saqarTvelos gadaqcevas 

iseTi tipis regionul habad, rogoric 

aris, magaliTad, dubai an 

singapuri. 

proeqtis CaSvebis dRidan saeqsperto 

wreebSi gaCnda kiTxvebi da 

idea „anaklia” 

dRes bevrs saubroben imaze, 

rom anaklia _ lazika mixeil saakaSvilis 

proeqtia, Tumca Tu istoriasTan 

samarTlianebi viqnebiT da 

Tavad mesame prezidentic aRiarebs, 

anakliaSi portis mSenebloba 

misi eqskluzivi ar gaxlavT. anakliis 

midamoSi portis mSeneblobis 

idea, jer kidev, 1976 wels gaJRerda, 

ris mizezadac engurhesis mSeneblobis 

Sedegad saqarTvelos sanapiro 

zolSi mosalodneli cvlilebebi 

saxeldeboda. portis 

mSenebloba, garda pirdapiri datvirTvisa, 

napirdacviTi problemis 

gadawyvetisa da resursis gonivrulad 

gamoyenebis gzadac iyo miCneuli. 

anakliis maxloblad Rrmawylovani 

portis mSeneblobis proeqti 

1980-iani wlebis dasawyisSi momzadebuli 

hqondaT geografiis mecnierebaTa 

doqtors, profesor ar- 

Cil kiknaZes da arqiteqtor giorgi 

metrevels. maTi winadadeba enguris 

SesarTavTan, anakliis CrdiloeTiT, 

enguris zRvaSi Cadinebis 

Sedegad, sanapiros siaxloves 

warmoqmnil kanionTan portis mSeneblobas 

iTvaliswinebda. 

Rrmawylovani portis mSeneblobaze 

saubari „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis 

pirvel wlebSic iyo da misiT aqtiurad 

interesdeboda imJamindeli 

premier-ministri zurab Jvania. amave 

periodSi mimdinareobda sxvadasxva 

saxis kvleva am mimarTulebiT. 

ra Tqma unda, sakmaod mniSvnelovani 

iyo mixeil saakaSvilis 

mier gakeTebuli ganacxadi am mimarTulebiT. 

proeqti ufro globalurad 

iqna danaxuli da mas eni- 

Weboda ara mxolod ekonomikuri, 

aramed politikuri konteqsti. 

proeqtis mniSvnelovan gaazrebaze 

metyvelebs „lazikis” Sesaxeb konstituciaSi 

gakeTebuli Canaweri. 

Tumca aRiarebas moiTxovs is gareanaklia 

_ 

anu 


`damplur 

TamaSebamde~ 

umTavresi mainc aseTi saxis iyo, _ 

visi fuliT aSendeba anaklia: ramdenime 

investoris monawileobiT, 

saxelmwifos dakveTiT, Tu erT 

kompanias mihyidian da is ports 

aiSenebs?.. 

eqsperti paata SeSeliZe, rome- 

lsac namdvilad veravin daswamebs 

politikur mikerZoebulobas, 

aseT kiTxvas svamda: „mxolod 

porti xom ar iqneba? albaT, infrastruqturac 

aris gasaTvaliswinebeli... 

Tu amisTvis biujetis 

fuli unda daixarjos, maSin ar 

mgonia es kargi idea. Tu kerZo 

piri daxarjavs amaSi fuls, is perspeqtivasac 

dainaxavs da aaSenebs 

kidec ports”. 

mokled, saxelmwifos mier vadebis 

gamudmebiT cvlis, paralelurad 

muSa procesis sajaro demonstrirebis, 

uamravi komentaris ke- 

Tebis, interesTa gamoxatvis procesSi 

aTze meti kompaniis CarTvisa 

da maTi gacxrilvis Semdgom saxelmwifo 

Semdegi realobis winaSe 

dadga, rom anakliis portis proeqtis 

ganxorcielebis uflebis 

saboloo mopovebas „anakliis ganviTarebis 

konsorciumi” da „anakliis 

industriuli ekoparkis da 

portis konsorciumi” cdilobdnen. 

pirveli konsorciumi „Tibisi 

bankis” sameTvalyureo sabWos 

Tavmjdomare mamuka xazaraZem daaarsa 

amerikul kompania „konti 

jgufTan” erTad, xolo konkurent 

konsorciumSi gaerTianebuli iyvnen 

„anaklia industriuli eko parki 

da porti” da Cinuri saxelmwifo 

kompania „fauer Caina”. 

Tavidan rCeboda STabeWdileba, 

rom xelisufleba ufro Cinuri 

kompaniisken ixreboda. CineTTan 

Tavisufali savaWro xelSekrulebis 

gaformebis farglebSi araer- 

Ti gancxadeba gakeTda garkveuli 

miniSnebebiT, ekonomikis eqsministrma 

dimitri qumsiSvilma isic ki 

ganacxada, rom „erT-erTi mniSvnelovani 

sakiTxi, romelzedac Canaweri 

gakeTda, aris anakliis porti. 

kidev erTxel dadasturda, 

rom CineTis mxare miesalmeba da 

interesi aqvs anakliis portis mimarT”. 

daakvirdiT, razea saubari: 

qumsiSvili saubrobs CineTis xelisuflebasTan 

molaparakebebis 

konteqstSi anakliis mimarT gamoTqmul 

interesze. gaixseneT isic, 

rom „fauer Caina” CineTis saxelmwifo 

kompaniaa. 

„fauer Caina” 

interesTa gamoxatvis proceSi 

„fauer Cainam” delegirebuli 

uflebiT misi Svilobili kompania 

Power Construction Corporation of China 

Semoiyvana da proeqts umniSvnelovanesi 

saerTaSoriso politikuri 

datvirTva misca. CineTis saxelmwifo 

kompaniis CarTva proeqtSi 

imTaviTve gulisxmobda CineTis xelisuflebis 

keTilganwyobasa da 

dainteresebas. amavdroulad, Cinuri 

kompania partniorad proeqt- 

Si amerikul mxaresac iwvevda. 

ra politikuri, ufro sworad, 

geopolitikuri datvirTva eZleoda 

proeqts im pirobebSi, rodesac 

anakliidan sul ramdenime kilometSia 

ganlagebuli ruseTis 

4 N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w.


Tanamedrove òqros sawmisi~ 

samxedro bazebi, xolo oCamCireSi 

ruseTis federaciis samxedro gemebic 

dgas, vgoneb, gasagebia. iseve 

rogorc is safrTxeebi, rac proeqtis 

sargebelTan erTad dgeboda 

qarTuli saxelmwifos winaSe. anakliis 

proeqtSi CineTis CarTva xdeboda 

usafrTxoebis buferi da garantiac 

qarTuli saxelmwifos- 

Tvis, portis perspeqtivisTvis da 

rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, qveynis 

usafrTxoebisa da misi regionuli 

ganviTarebisTvis. aqve gasaTvaliswinebelia 

is garemoeba, rom 

gadasazidi tvirTvis moculobis 

naxevarze meti swored CineTze modioda. 

aqve gavixsenoT kvirikaSvilis 

mier naTqvami fraza, romlis 

damaxsovrebac gTxoveT: „CineTidan 

evropaSi konteineris gadazidvas 

mxolod 17 dRe dasWirdeba”. 

umniSvnelovanesia samxedro strategiuli 

mniSvnelobac da aqac pirdapir 

unda vTqvaT, _ Cveni „erTmorwmune 

mezobeli” rasac gaubedavs 

saqarTvelos da gnebavT, 

evropas, gaubedavs aSS-sac (siriac 

sakmarisi magaliTia), ver gaubedavs 

CineTs. proeqtis farglebSi 

Cinuri mxare apirebda masSi arabuli 

kompaniebis CarTvasac, rac 

aseve, erTgvari usafrTxoebis garanti 

iyo da visac amis gaazreba 

uWirs globaluri politikuri 

konteqstis gaTvaliswinebiT, imaT 

namdvilad arc qveynis erovnuli 

interesebi ainteresebT da arc patriotizmis 

gageba aqvT. 

2016 wlis 15 ianvars ekonomikis 

ministrma dimitri qumsiSvilma 

ganacxada, rom daaxloebiT 12 

dReSi daasaxelebda anakliis portis 

proeqtis ganmaxorcielebel 

kompanias. ministrma aRniSna, rom 

konkretuli pirobebis SesaTanxmeblad 

saministro potenciur investorebTan 

„vaWrobda”. 

„imisTvis, rom investors Seu- 

Tanxmde, pirvel rigSi, akeTeb imas, 

rom garkveul nawilze uTanxmdebi 

winaswar da raRac nawilze 

mogvianebiT an mas Semdeg, rac gamarjvebulad 

gamoacxadeb. Cven am 

wuTSi kargi gagebiT vvaWrobT, ra 

nawilze SevTanxmdeT dRes da ra 

nawili iqneba gamocxadebis Semdeg 

SesaTanxmebeli gamarjvebul kompaniasTan 

imisTvis, rom saxelmwifos 

interesebi maqsimalurad iyos 

daculi”, _ aRniSna ekonomikis ministrma 

da dasZina, rom investori 

kompaniis gamosacxadeblad mis kalendarSi 

12 dRe iyo gansazRvruli. 

aRniSnuli 12-dRiani vada 27 

ianvars amoiwura da sakiTxi isev 

gadaido. 

am droisTvis ukve cnobili iyo, 

rom „fauer Caina” CineTis umsxvilesi 

saxelmwifo kompaniaa, romelic 

uzrunvelyofs yvela saxis 

momsaxurebas, dagegmvis, Seswavlis, 

proeqtirebis, konsultaciis, mSeneblobis, 

hidroenergetikis, axali 

energiisa da infrastruqturis 

mimarTulebiT _ anu gamocdileba 

arsebobda, razedac xelisufleba, 

jer kidev, 2014 wels ake- 

Tebda miniSnebebs ki ara, moTxovnebs 

ayenebda. 

„fauer Cainas” sazRvargareTis 

ganyofilebis vice-prezidenti du 

Cunguo acxadebda, rom kompaniis 

warmomadgenlebi did mniSvnelobas 

aniWeben saqarTvelos bazars. 

garda amisa, „fauer Caina” Tanaxma 

iyo, rom anakliis portis proeqtis 

kapitalSi investicia ganexorcielebina: 

„Cven aseve Zalian kargad 

vTanamSromlobT adgilobriv 

partniorTan, Sps „anaklia industriul 

eko park da portTan” da 

gvjera, rom nayofier muSaobas 

gavwevT. anakliis proeqti sakuTar 

wvlils Seitans saqarTvelos 

ekonomikur da sazogadoebriv ganviTarebaSi. 

gvjera, rom tenderSi 

warmatebas mivaRwevT, pirvel rig- 

Si, imitom, rom „fauer Cainas” sakmaod 

mdidari gamocdileba aqvs 

ucxoeTis bazarze muSaobisa. asobiT 

adamiani gvyavs, romelic mzad 

aris portis asaSeneblad”. 

da am dros, daakvirdiT, ra xdeba: 

qumsiSvilis mier gakeTebuli, 

zemoT naxsenebi gancxadebis Semdeg 

naTeli xdeba, Tu ras „vaWroben” 

saqarTvelos xelisufleba da 

kerZod axlad arCeuli premierministri 

da ekonomikis ministri. 

2016 wlis 5 Tebervals mediaSi 

qveyndeba interviu „anaklia industriuli 

eko parki da porti” 

damfuZnebel Temur qarCavasTan, 

romelic Riad acxadebs, rom xelisufleba 

ver rigdeba Cinur kompaniasTan. 

paralelurad ekonomikis 

saministroSi acxadeben, rom 

konfidencialurobis motiviT detalebze 

saubars ar apireben, Tumca 

qarCava, Tavis mxriv, arafers 

malavs. 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 

Temur qarCava: „saubaria sainvesticio 

xelSekrulebis detalebze 

saxelmwifosa da investorebs 

Soris. interesTa gamoxatvaSi ori 

konsorciumi monawileobs. erTma 

SesTavaza mTavrobas, rom garkveuli 

punqtebi saerTaSoriso finansur 

standartebTan mimarTebiT 

mowesrigdes. am SemTxvevaSi Cinuri 

kompania, anakliis portis konsorciumTan 

erTad, mzad aris daafinansos, 

aaSenos da eqsploatacia 

gauwios am did proeqts, rasac 

anakliis porti hqvia. gansaxilvelia 

ramdenime sakiTxi sainvesticio 

xelSekrulebis pirobebTan 

dakavSirebiT. es aris Cveulebrivi 

movlena. SeiZleba SevTanxmdeT an 

ver SevTanxmdeT. investorTa erT 

jgufs es pirobebi xels ar aZlevs, 

SeiZleba awyobdes meore jgufs, 

xazaraZis konsorciums _ „Tibisis” 

da „konti jgufs”. 

aba, kargad daakvirdiT, Cinuri 

mxare iTxovs xelSekrulebis punqtebis 

saerTaSoriso standartebTan 

SesabamisobaSi moyvanas. 

axla ki movlenebs win gavuswreb 

da aqve vityvi, ra avantiuraze wavida 

anakliis ganviTarebis konsorciumi, 

rodesac im xelSekrulebas 

dasTanxmda, romelsac Cinuri mxare 

ar Tanxmdeboda da axla acxadebs, 

rom xelSekruleba kabaluria. 

yuradRebiT daakvirdiT, dRes 

levan axvlediani, konsorciumis 

erT-erTi xelmZRvaneli, Semdegs 

acxadebs: „xelSekruleba, romelsac 

xeli movawereT, absoluturad 

kabaluri pirobebiT iyo. minda 

xazgasmiT aRvniSno, rom es Segnebulad 

gavakeTeT. Cven vicodiT, 

razec vawerdiT xels imitom, rom 

im dros mTavrobas iseTi pozicia 

hqonda, rom undoda, rac SeiZleba 

minimizacia gaekeTebinaT mTavrobis 

valdebulebebisa am xelSekrulebaSi. 

rom ar mogvewera xeli, 

es proeqti ar Sedgeboda. yvelas 

daaviwydeboda da ityodnen, rom 

ar aris amaze interesi da a. S. Cven 

amas Segnebulad movawreT xeli da 

mivyeviT procesebs, rom mere procesSi 

gamoCndeboda dabrkolebebi, 

ànakliis proeqtSi CineTis CarTva xdeboda 

usafrTxoebis buferi da garantiac qarTuli 

saxelmwifosTvis, portis perspeqtivisTvis da 

rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, qveynis 

usafrTxoebisa da misi regionuli 

ganviTarebisTvis~ 

rac am kabalurobas mohyveboda. 

Cven sainvesticio xelSekrulebas 

2016 wlis bolos movawereT xeli”. 

gana, advili misaxvedri ar aris, 

rom Cinuri kompania imTaviTve 

iTxovda am „kabaluri” xelSekrulebis 

pirobebis saerTaSoriso 

standartebisTvis morgebas, xolo 

es gaWianurebuli procesi iyo 

TvalSi nacris Seyra. sabolood ki 

anakliis ganviTarebis konsorciumi 

iRebs gadawyvetilebas, xeli 

moaweros „kabalur” xelSekrulebas 

da aqac cxadia _ xelisuflebis 

calkeuli warmomadgenlebis garantiiT, 

rom isini gzadagza „mouvlian” 

am teqsts da moargeben konsorciumis 

interesebs (imisTvis, 

rom investors SeuTanxmde, pirvel 

rigSi, akeTeb imas, rom garkveul 

nawilze uTanxmdebi winaswar 

da raRac nawilze mogvianebiT an 

mas Semdeg, rac gamarjvebulad gamoacxadeb, 

_ dimitri qumsiSvili). 

esec ar iyos, ra uflebiT iTxovda 

da iTxovs batoni xazaraZe da 

misi gundi mTavrobis, realurad 

ki saqarTvelos mosaxleobis mier 

investiciebis ganxorcielebas am 

proeqtSi im pirobebSi, rodesac 

mTavrobas imTaviTve hqonda deklarirebuli: 

„saqarTvelos mTavrobis 

survilia, es porti kerZo 

kapitaliT aSendes”. anu aq movlenebis 

Semdgomi ganviTarebis gaTvaliswinebiT 

cxadi xdeba, Tu ra avantiuraze 

wavida anakliis ganvi- 

Tarebis konsorciumi da misi mxardamWeri 

premier-ministri da ekonomikis 

ministri (am ori personis 

roli calke sagamoZiebo uwyebis 

Seswavlis kompetenciis sferos 

ganekuTvneba Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT, 

ramdenjer Causwora 

konsorciums xelSekruleba mTavrobam 

swored maTi iniciativiTa 

da mxardaWeriT). 

isev amonaridi imave interviudan: 

„davakvirdebiT, ra pirobebs 

miscemen meore konsorciums. Cine- 

Tis giganti kompania „fauer Caina” 

miiCnevs, rom tenderis pirobebi 

gadasaxedia. Tu mas SevasworebT 

da saerTaSoriso finansur standartebTan 

SesabamisobaSi moviyvanT, 

igi mzad aris, qarTul da 

amerikul kompaniebTan erTad daafinansos 

es proeqti. ...ramdenime 

punqtia, romelic misaRebi ar aris 

investorisTvis. amis Sesaxeb maSin 

visaubrebT, rodesac gamarjvebuls 

gamoacxadeben an manamde, 

Tuki saWirod miviCnevT. CvenTvis 

mTavaria is, rom es proeqti ganxorcieldes... 

CineTis giganturi 

kompania „fauer Caina”, amerikuli 

kompania da qarTuli „anaklia porti 

da industriuli eko parki”, 

romelsac erTmaneTTan partnioruli 

xelSekruleba akavSirebT, 

mzad arian misaRebi pirobebiT daiwyon 

portis mSenebloba. arsebuli 

pirobebiT es proeqti TavSive 

ganwirulia da didi riskis qveS 

dgas. ...am portis mSenebloba iTvaliswinebs 

axali marSrutis gaWras 

_ CineTi-saqarTvelo-evropa. 

axal marSruts ver gaWris „Tibisi” 

da „konti jgufi” didi Cinuri 

kompaniis gareSe. 

mokled, Cinuri kompania anakliis 

ganviTarebis konsorciumis avantiurisa 

(es ar gaxldaT riski) 

da misi lobistebis wyalobiT (lobistebis 

savaraudo interesebze 

arafers vambob) procesebs miRma 

darCa. 

xazaraZe da konsorciumi 

anakliis ganviTarebis konsor- 

ciumi aerTianebs: TBC Holding, Conti 

International, SSA Marine, British Wondernet 

Express, G-star ltd. 

konsorciumSi monawile ko- 

mpaniebi: Maritime & Transport Business 

Solutions (MTBS), Van Oord-I, Royal 

HaskoningDHV, Moffatt & Nichol-i. 

barem aqve vityvi: „anakliis ganviTarebis 

konsrciumis” mier mier 

am dromde Sesrulebuli samuSaoebi 

namdvilad ar aris xelwamosakravi 

da calkeuli mimarTulebebiT 

STambeWdavic ki gaxlavT. 

Tumca am yvelafris miRma aris 

uamravi problema. 

vaRiaroT, mamuka xazaraZe kargi 

menejeria. Tumca misi xuTasi 

dolariT dawyebuli biznesi, amerikuli 

ocnebis analogiiT, sufTa 

blefia. Tbilisi patara qalaqia da 

vin ra da rogor daiwyo, gadasarevad 

viciT. magram es Tema ar ganvavrcoT. 

sxvasac bevrsac hqonia 

xelSewyoba, magram imis naxevari 

warmatebisTvis ver miuRwevia, rasac 

xazaraZem miaRwia, ara mxolod 

sabanko biznesSi, aramed borjomis 

„warmoebis” Tu sxva friad momgebian 

mimarTulebebSi. 

magram... magram... mas Semdeg, rac 

rogorc levan axlvedianma aRniSna, 

anakliis ganviTarebis konsorciumi 

„kabalur” xelSekrulebas 

dasTanxmda, realurad ara saxelmwifo, 

aramed piradi da komerciuli 

interesebis gaTvalswinebiT, 

bevri ram ucebve amotrialda maT 

sasikeTod. ratom vambob ara saxelmwifos 

interesebis-meTqi? _ 

swored imitom, rom aseT SemTxvevaSi 

xazaraZe da misi jgufi imasac 

gaiTvalswinebda, Tu ra politikuri 

riskebi (sagareo riskebze 

vsaubrob) axlda proeqts da imasac 

mixvdeboda, rom proeqtidan 

Cinuri kompaniis gaTiSva, rodesac 

deklarirebuli iyo CineTis saxelmwifos 

interesebi am mimarTulebiT, 

pirdapir niSnavda gadasazidi 

tvirTebis simcires. Tundac am 

etapze, tvirTnakadis aspeqtSi, 

winaswar gaformebuli xelSekrulebis 

pirobebSic ki, xelSekrulebis 

moSlas portis dasrulebis 

Semdeg da qarTuli mxaris iseve ayiravebas, 

rogorc kvirikaSvilma 

da qumsiSvilma aayiraves CineTi, 

didi Wkua da moxerxeba ar sWirdeba. 

sagareo riskebis konteqstSi 

arc is gaiTvaliswines, rom aSS 

ver gaxdeboda verc erTi sainvesticio 

jgufisa Tu aqcioneris interesebis 

damcveli politikuri 

garantori. es garantia erTaderTxel 

amuSavdeba, Tu qarTuli 

mxare am jgufis gadagdebas moisurvebs. 

anu am mocemulobis _ 

anakliis gamo aSS-sa da ruseTs Soris 

kuluarebSic ki ar gaimarTeba 

arasodes msjeloba. amis mizezia 

politikuri pragmatizmi _ aSS 

arasodes etyvis da arc aCvenebs 

Riad ruseTs, rom misi gavlenis 

sferos ori kilometriT miuaxlovda. 

ra Tqma unda, biznesinteresebs 

gauwevs lobirebas da eqneba 

daintereseba, magram politikuri 

vaWrobis sagnad ar gaxdis. amitom 

kvirikaSvilis politikuri mavnebloba, 

proeqtis pragmatulad Seufaseblobisa 

da riskebis gauTvlelobis 

TvalsazrisiT, absoluturad 

naTelia, xolo xazaraZis 

agdeba da proeqtis misTvis Setenva, 

am ukanasknelis miamitobas mivaweroT 

da ufro Sors ar wavideT. 

*** 

magram axla saxelSekrulebo 

avantiuras davubrundeT. 

xelSekrulebiT nakisr pirobeb- 

Si saxelmwifos valdebuleba ganisazRvreboda 

60 milioniT, riTac 

unda momxdariyo kerZo mflobelebisgan 

miwebis gamosyidva. 

gagrZeleba meeqvse gv. 

5

Tumca konsorciumma umal daayena 

sakiTxi imis Taobaze, rom portis 

mSeneblobisTvis saxsrebis 

moZieba gaWirdeboda da saxelmwifo 

„iZulebuli gaxada”, sapartnioro 

fondis meSveobiT proeqtSi 

100 milioni evros Cadebis Sesaxeb 

gaeformebina xelSekruleba. es im- 

TaviTve arRvevda xelSekrulebiT 

gaTvaliswinebul pirobas imis Taobaze, 

rom porti unda iyos ker- 

Zo da aaSenos kerZo kompaniam. unda 

hyavdes gamocdili partniorebi, 

rac aris am portis warmatebis 

piroba. kerZo kompanias unda uzrunveleyo 

misi srulad muSaobac 

da investiciebis mozidvac. 

paralelulad konsorciums Tavad 

unda moezida 120 milioni (am- 

Jamad mozidulia mxolod 70 milioni) 

da mosazidi aqvs 400 milioni 

evros odenobis sesxi (ise, ra 

ucnauria, rom amden investors 

saxelmwifos monawileobisa da garantiebis 

gareSe sakuTari sargeblis 

misaRebad 500 milionis mozidva 

uWirs. magram es ritorikul 

kiTxvad davtovoT). xelSekrulebis 

Sesabamisad iyo dagegmili, rom 

dafinanseba unda moziduliyo 

2018 wlis pirveli ianvridan. 2017 

wels, roca cxadi gaxda, rom konsorciumi 

ver asrulebda am pirobas, 

vada kvlav Seicvala _ 2019 

wlis pirveli ianvridan konsorciums 

srulad unda moezida Tavisi 

kapitali, 400 milionis sesxi. 

CanarTi: baton xazaraZes, rodesac 

periodulad xelSekrulebebis 

vadebis cvlas moiTxovda, nuTu 

ar uCndeboda ucnauri gancdebi? 

is xom bankiria da, savaraudod, 

icis kidec, magaliTad, sakredito 

valdebulebis darRvevisTvis ra 

sanqciebi ekisreba msesxebels. Tu 

arafers niSnavs saxelmwifos winaSe 

nakisri valdebuleba da bankis 

winaSe nakisri valdebuleba ufro 

woniania? Tu momxmarebeli valdebulia 

xazaraZes da mis banks piruTvnelad 

Seusrulos yvela valdebuleba 

da konsorciumi _ ara? 

miT ufro, roca winaswar ician, 

rom xelSekruleba „kabaluria”, 

realurad ver Seasruleben, magram 

mere ra _ proeqti mniSvnelovania 

da saxelmwifos daSantaJebac mosula, 

miT ufro Tu mTavrobaSi 

lobistebi gyavs? an isic gaazrebuli 

gaqvs _ saxelmwifo (xelisufleba) 

Tu ar daemorCileba Santa- 

Js, Zalian advilia, mas prorusoba 

miawero, rusuli interesebis 

prizmaSi daanaxo obivatels is, rasac 

Sen imTaviTve ver akeTebdi da 

imis gamo, rom mTavrobas Cirqi ar 

moecxos, yvelaferze unda gamogyves, 

xom? 

axla citata infrastruqturis 

ministris mier samTavrobo saaTis 

farglebSi gakeTebuli gancxadebidan: 

„portis operatoris nawil- 

Si SemoTavazeba ar Seesabameba imas, 

rac investiciis xelSekrulebaSi 

iyo gawerili. 400 milionis dafinansebis 

nawilSi var momswre imisa, 

rom yvela saerTaSoriso platformaze, 

yvela doneze saqarTvelos 

mTavroba usvamda xazs, rom es 

proeqti aris Zalian mniSvnelovani 

da maT ganixilon sesxis gacemis 

sakiTxi. Tumca saerTaSoriso institutebma 

Seiswavles proeqti da 

mogvawodes is pirobebi, ris Secvlasac 

gvTxoven da erT-erTi mTavari 

cvlileba aris is, rom isini 

iTxoven tvirTebis garantias, amas 

iTxoven mTavrobis mxridan”. 

es rogor, batono mamuka xazaraZev 

da batono eqspremiero kvirikaSvilo? 

mamuka xazaraZem, rogorc 

biznesmenma, samomavlo mogeba 

rom naxos, saxelmwifo unda daudges 

garantorad?! ratom?! a, es 

im „kabaluri” xelSekrulebis kvi- 

mexuTe gverdidan 


rikaSvilisa da qumsiSvilis mier 

Sepirebuli dezauvirebis nawilia, 

ara? 

axla isev gagaxsenebT, am mimarTulebiT 

ras gvTavazobda Cinuri 

kompania da isic, Tu visi 

iqneboda portSi moziduli tvir- 

Tis umetesoba, romelic anakliis 

gavliT 17 dReSi aRmoCndeboda 

evropaSi?.. ra qnas axla saqarTvelos 

mTavrobam (ra mniSvneloba 

aqvs, romeli politikuri Zalaa 

xelisuflebaSi. ise, me Tqven getyviT 

da saakaSvilis xelisuflebas 

gaubedavdnen amas), CineTs uTxras, 

xazaraZe biznesavantiuraze wavida, 

axla Cvenc gvaSantaJebs, kvirikaSvili 

da qumsiSvili mavneblebi 

iyvnen, bodiSs gixdiT, magram modiT, 

tvirTi mainc aqeT gamouSvi- 

To? Tan samomavlod Cven rom ar 

gaviWylitoT da xazaraZes garantorad 

davudgeT, Cven Tqven dagvideqiT 

garantorado? 

mokled esec morigi cinizmia, 

ra Tqma unda, konsorciumis mxridan. 

zemoT ministr cqitiSvilis 

citata moviyvane da gavimeoreb: 

„portis operatoris nawilSi Semo- 

Tavazeba ar Seesabameba imas, rac 

investiciis xelSekrulebaSi iyo 

gawerili”. 

aRniSnulis sapasuxod konsorciumi 

acxadebs, rom portis operirebis 

gamocdilebasTan dakav- 

SirebiT, ministris gancxadebaSi 

yuradReba gamaxvilda imaze, rom 

gamarjvebul kompanias unda hqonoda 

gamocdileba an hyoloda partniorebi, 

visac hqonda gamocdileba 

portis marTvis mimarTulebiT. 

Sesabamisad, konsorciumma 

proeqtSi Semoiyvana Zlieri strategiuli 

partniori _ amerikuli 

„ssa marine” (SSA Marine), romelic 

portis operatori da investoria. 

„ssa marine” msoflioSi erT-erTi 

msxvili sanavsadgure saterminalo 

operatoria, romlis terminalebi 

msoflios 9 qveyanaSi mdebareobs, 

wliurad 27.2 milion konteiners 

(TEU) amuSavebs da msoflios 250 

wertilSi operirebs. 

sinamdvileSi ki saqme gvaqvs 

faqtebis sasurvel interpretirebasTan. 

ar minda ufro mZafri Sefasebis 

gamoyeneba. dainteresebuli 

pirebisTvis cnobilia, rom xelSekrulebas 

SSA Marine-sTan mar- 

Tlac moewera xeli premier kvirikaSvilis 

dros. magram axla irkveva, 

rom realurad portis operirebas 

moaxdens SSA International-i, 

romelic gacilebiT mcire kompaniaa. 

Tan aq aris umniSvnelovanesi 

garemoeba, rom portis operatoroba 

realurad gulisxmobs SSA International-is 

xuTi TanamSromlis 

yofnas adgilze. 

„dRes konsorciums SemoTavazebuli 

aqvs CvenTvis ara SSA Marineis, 

aramed erT jgufSi Semavali, 

paraleluri organizacia SSA International-is 

Semosvla. SSA Marine namdvilad 

aris didi kompania, 250 portis 

operatoria. samwuxarod, 

igives ver vityvi SSA International-ze, 

romelic bevrad patara kompaniaa, 

ramdenime portis operatori isicaa, 

magram is portebi anakliasTan 

SedarebiT mcire zomisaa... garda 

amisa, roca vsaubrobT portis operatorze, 

rodesac konsorciumi 

konkursSi Semodioda, SemoTavazebuli 

hqonda 12 Tu 17 didi portis 

operatori kompaniebi. axla 

Cven gvaqvs alternatiuli modeli, 

roca komerciul riskebs sakuTar 

Tavze iRebs konsorciumi, aseve, 

konsorciumisa da SSA Internationalis 

mier dafuZnebuli kidev sxva 

qarTuli kompania, romelSic imuSavebs 

5 amerikeli menejeri da am 

kompaniam unda warmarTos portis 

komerciuli marTva. samwuxarod, 

es arRvevs interesTa gamoxatvis 

vedra, raTa maTTan erTad gaviaroT 

yvela SesaZlo, sasurveli cvlileba 

da mere yvelam erTad ganvsazRvroT, 

ra cvlilebebis Setana 

iqneba SesaZlebeli. am proeqts 

saxelmwifos mxridan safrTxe ar 

emuqreba. gzis nawilSi 11 milioni 

iyo gaTvaliswinebuli proeqtirebaze. 

SarSan es tenderebi Cavarda, 

radgan es ar iyo mxolod gza, es 

aris gza da rkinigza. Cven saerTa- 

Soriso partniorebTan erTad 

vmuSaobT satendero pirobaSi 

Sesatan cvlilebebze. aqtiur kav- 

SirSi varT, rogorc anakliis ganviTarebis 

konsorciumTan, aseve 

oTxive donorTan, raTa konsorciumma 

dafinansebis moZieba SeZlos”, 

_ aRniSna maia cqitiSvilma. 

konsorciumi ramdenime dRis 

win gamoqveynebul gancxadebaSi ise 

saubrobs mis mier pirobebis Sesrulebaze, 

arc erT adgilas, arc 

erT winadadebaSi da mosazrebaSi 

madlierebasac ki ar gamoxatavs qarTuli 

saxelmwifos, qarTveli 

xalxis mimarT, romelsac saqarTvelos 

mTavrobis gavliT aSanta- 

Jebs da aiZulebs, mudmivad wavides 

daTmobaze. ise, arc uniaTod gamocxadebul 

xelisuflebas eubneba 

madlobas imisTvis, rom mis mier 

„kabaluri” xelSekrulebis xelmowera 

iyo blefi da sferoSi nulovani 

gamocdilebis (miTxariT 

rame analogiuri da masStaburi, 

rac konsorciums hqonda ganxorcielebuli) 

kompaniisTvis am proeqtis 

micema iyo proteqcionizmis 

klasikuri magaliTi. deklarirebuli 

principebis ugulebelyofa: 

„gansakuTrebuli yuradReba 

gamaxvildeboda gamocdilebaze 

analogiuri sirTulis, masStabisa 

da tipis proeqtebis ganviTarebis, 

marTvisa da dafinansebis kuTxiT”. 

anaklia _ 

anu 


`damplur 

TamaSebamde~ 

pirobasac da suliskveTebasac”, _ 

acxadebs maia cqitiSvili. 

mokled, xazaraZesa da konsorciums 

gasdiT da rogorc surT, 

ise apampuleben saxelmwifos. Cven 

kidev, mTavaria, wonadma da avtoritetulma 

saxelebma mogvWras 

yuri, Torem Sinaarsi arc arasodes 

gvainteresebs da siRrmeebSi 

Zieba _ miT ufro. 

mokled, konsorciumSi radgan 

Rrmad arian darwmunebulni, Tu 

xelisufleba ar ahyveba maT am SantaJis 

pirobebis SesrulebaSi, misi 

diskrediteba (rom mTavroba xels 

uSlis anaklias da rusul interesebs 

atarebs) advilia. miT ufro, 

Tu mediasac dateni, wonad saxelebsac 

gaaJRereb da calkeul 

sasargeblo idiotebs Tu angarebian 

personebs Sen sasargeblod 

ganawyob. 

mokled, mosamzadebeli samuSaoebi 

dawyebulia. mTavrobam konsorciumi 

20-milioniani garantiisgan 

gaaTavisufla da Tanxebis mozidvis 

vada ivnisamde gadauvaddaT. 

„miuxedavad imisa, rom es ar 

yofila Tavdapirvelad gawerili, 

Cven gvqonda safinanso instituciebis 

warmomadgenlebTan SexgaxsovT, 

zemoT giorgi kvirikaSvilis 

am sityvebis damaxsovreba 

gTxoveT. 

axla kidev konsorciumi gvamadlis: 

„imisTvis, rom ar dar- 

Rveuliyo portis pirveli fazis 

mSeneblobisTvis gaTvaliswinebuli 

vadebi, konsorciumis investorebma 

gadawyvites, ar dalodebodnen 

proeqtis finansur daxurvas 

da ganxorcielda uprecedento 

masStabis, 30 milioni aSS dolaris 

Rirebulebis adreuli fskerdaRrmavebiTi 

da refulirebis samuSaoebi”. 

Zalian didi bodiSi, magram 

Tqven rom droze ver moiZieT 

investorebi, ver daiwyeT Sesabamisi 

samuSaoebi da axla imas gvamadliT 

_ fuls vin Civis, proeqtic 

ar aris, magram Cven samuSaoebs vasrulebTo, 

iciT, ras hgavs? sazeimo 

sufrisTvis diasaxlisma saxaWapure 

comi rom mozilos, sxva 

kerZebis momzadebas ver aswrebdes 

da ramdenimejer mouwios gadazelva. 

biznesis enaze es kidev ufro 

meti avantiuraa _ xalxs anaxo, 

rom akeTeb, maSin rodesac srulad 

gasakeTebeli kapitali ar gaqvs. 

Tumca, ra Tqma unda, madloba imisTvis, 

rom viciT _ sufraze xa- 

Wapuri iqneba. mere ra, Tu arc yvelia 

da arc misi sayideli fuli? 

minimum, Zroxac ar aris, rom 

mowvelo da axla saxelmwifosgan 

iTxov Zroxas, balaxsac, mwvelavsac, 

yvelis amomyvansac, mcxobelsac 

da mere sufraze miitan, Tavs 

moiwoneb? ara, ara, Tavs ki moiwoneb, 

magram sufris wevrebs ki ar gaumaspinZldebi 

_ mihyidi. es kulinariuli 

gadaxveva imisTvis, rom 

maZRar Tu mSier qarTvels sufris 

ena ukeT esmis, vidre biznesis da, 

politikasac mxolod magidasTan 

„akeTeben” warmatebulad. 

rac Seexeba vadebs, konsorciumi 

acxadebs, mere ra, Tu „moxda 

mxolod proeqtis finansuri 

daxurvisTvis gansazRvruli vadebis 

gadavadeba, Tumca es gavlenas 

ar iqoniebs imaze, rom portis pirveli 

fazis mSenebloba Tavdapirvelad 

gansazRvrul vadebSi dasruldes 

da 2020 wlis bolosTvis 

miviRoT operirebadi porti”. 

rogorc Tanamedrove saqarTvelo- 

Si ityvan: SORRY? an What? amave 

tonSi vikiTxav: ratom, Zmao? ratom? 

bankirebisTvis sityva ar 

fasobs da wona ar aqvs? TqvenTvis 

mosula pirobebis Secvla, vadebis 

gadavadeba, kontraqtebis sakuTar 

Tavze morgeba da Tqven mier usaxlkarod 

datovebuli adamianebisTvis, 

_ ara?!! ho, mesmis ra SuaSia 

es yvelaferi bankTan, magram maSin 

unda davijero, rom anakliis xazaraZe-kvirikaSviliseuli 

avantiura 

_ fuli ar maqvs da ports da 

sitis vaSeneb konsorciumis „obliko 

moralea”? Tumca ratomac ar 

unda davijero? 

rogor eubnebiT xolme opoTekarebs, 

msesxeblebs _ ai, es Seni 

xelmoweraa? wagekiTxa, Zmao, ras 

awerdi xels. hoda, wagekiTxaT, 

Zmao, ras awerdiT xels, Tu es winaswar 

dagegmili avantiura ar 

iyo. metic: rogor fiqrobT, mand, 

kosorciumSi, _ es qveyana miSasia, 

biZinasia (arc erTi gevasebaT 

Tqven da arc _ meore) ara, es qveyana 

Cvenia, saqrTvelos moqalaqeebis, 

rogor xboebadac ar unda 

migviCnevdeT da idiotebad. 

mokled, me maqvs personaluri 

Sefaseba da sulac ar aris savaldebulo, 

es sruliad saqarTvelom 

gaiziaros. sulac ar mainteresebs, 

am yvelaferSi vin CaiTria xazaraZe 

Tu konsorciumi. magram biznesis 

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enazec, kacobaSic, quCurSic amas 

sxvadasxva saxeli aqvs, romelsac 

erTi Sinaarsi aerTianebs da mis 

yvelaze vulgarul JReradobas aq 

ar movixmob. 

saxelmwifosTan da sakuTar 

qveyanasTan mimarTebiT ki am yvelafers 

politikuri da ekonomikuri 

mavnebloba hqvia. aqac xelebi meqaveba, 

ufro mZimed davwero Sefaseba, 

magram _ Tavs Sevikaveb. Tumca 

msubuqad mainc vikiTxav, _ xom 

icodiT, rom amis Tavi ar gqondaT 

da arc gamocdileba, romeli niko 

nikolaZe Tqven iyaviT da akaki xo- 

Staria? magram Tqven xom, isev da 

isev, axvledianis naTqvamis ar iyos: 

„xelSekruleba, romelsac xeli 

movawereT, absoluturad kabaluri 

pirobebiT iyo. minda xazgasmiT 

aRvniSno, rom es Segnebulad 

gavakeTeT. Cven vicodiT, razec vawerdiT 

xels imitom, rom im dros, 

mTavrobas iseTi pozicia hqonda, 

rom undoda, rac SeiZleba minimizacia 

gaekeTebinaT mTavrobis valdebulebebis 

am xelSekruleba- 

Si”. saxelmwifos ase uRirda, ase 

xedavda da Tqven vin mogcaT imis 

ufleba, rom is ageyiravebinaT winaswari 

ganzraxviT? ninias baRia? 

Tanamedrove òqros sawmisi~ 

saxelmwifo da xelisufleba 

is, ra zianic gaswia xelisuflebam 

kvirikaSvilisa da qumsiSvilis 

meSveobiT am proeqtis farglebSi, 

danaSaulia. saubari ar maqvs imaze, 

rom xelisuflebam am proeqtis 

araswori da proteqcionistuli 

menejmentiT TviTdazianeba miiyena, 

vgulisxmob politikur da ekonomikur 

zians _ kari dauxSo 70- 

miliardiani aqtivebis mqone Cinur 

saxelmwifo kompanias, urTierTobebi 

gaaciva CineTTan, romelic 

proeqtis usafrTxoebis garantoric 

xdeboda, mTlianobaSi ki 

geopolitikur da transnacionalur 

proeqts Seuqmna safrTxe. 

Tumca amJamad gvaqvs mocemuloba 

da krizisi, romelic saxelmwifos 

dauzianeblad unda gadawydes. 

amisTvis aucileblad mimaCnia, 

saqarTvelos xelisuflebam Riad 

da sajarod daafiqsiros misi valdebulebebi 

proeqtis farglebSi 

gansaxorcielebel samuSaoebze da 

daTqvas konkretuli vadebi. 

amavdroulad, xelisuflebam 

aramc da aramac ar unda ikisros 

kabaluri garantiebi konsorciumis 

_ kerZo kompaniis, valdebulebebis 

gadasafaravad, Tundac 

tvirTebis garantiebul nakadTan 

mimarTebiT. me da verc erTi saqarTvelos 

moqalaqe, verc erTi 

xelisufali, ver daudgeba mojamagired 

konsorciums imisTvis, rom 

man Semdgomi 50 weliwadi anakliis 

portidan miRebuli mogebiT saku- 

Tari STamomavlobis simdidre 

gaauxvos. 

swored aq, am qveTavSi unda 

movixmo konsorciumis gancxadebis 

erTi umniSvnelovanesi nawili. 

anu konsorciumi ganmartavs, rom 

anakliis portis proeqti ar aris 

erTi romelime kerZo piris an 

erTi kompaniis proeqti, aramed 

qveynisa da xalxis proeqtia. sainvesticio 

xelSekrulebis Tanaxmad, 

konsorciumma operirebadi porti 

sainvesticio vadis gasvlis Semdeg 

(darCenilia 50 weli, _ avt.) saxelmwifos 

unda gadasces, manamde 

ki portis operirebidan miRebuli 

Semosavlis garkveuli wili gauziaros. 

batono? rame xom ar geSlebaT? 

maSin Tu amas Cems proeqtadac miiCnevT 

da Cemi Svilebis proeqtad, 

ratom ar ifiqreT saaqcio sazogadoebis 

Seqmna saqarTvelos TiToeuli 

mosaxlis wilis _ nominaluri 

aqciis flobis uflebiT, romelsac 

Tundac savaldebulo wesiT, 

amaxevda xelisufleba ojaxis Ti- 

Toeul sulze _ magaliTisTvis, 

aTi laris odenobiT? 

mase ver momatyuebT, rom 50 

wlis Semdeg qveynis gaxdeba. romeli 

qveynis da saxelmwifosi, 

romelsac xelSekrulebaze xelmoweris 

dRidan abiabruebs konsorciumi? 

ise, im 100 milionSi, 

romelic sapartnioro fondma gamoyo 

da romelsac axla saerTosaxalxo 

datvirTviT iyenebT, xom 

ar gaviwydebaT, rom 50 wlis gamavlobaSi 

Tqveni ojaxebis gamdidrebisTvis 

Cveni jibeebidan amoRebuli 

fulia? saqarTvelos moqalaqeebis, 

qarTuli saxelmwifos 

interesi am proeqtSi swored is 

aris, ra Tanmdevi geopolitikuri, 

ekonomikuri sikeTeebiT isargeblebs 

qveyana, romelmac diaxac, 

rom kerZo kompanias ando am sike- 

Teebis misaRebad proeqtis ganxorcieleba. 

es Zalian martivia, umartivesi 

gasagebi. me gikveTav aq 

mSeneblobas, gaZlev sargeblis 

miRebis uflebas da, ra Tqma unda, 

es yvelaferi Cemi _ saxelmwifosa 

`cdunebas ver gavuZeli da vikiTxe, - 

ratom ar brazdeba CineTi sajarod? 

sufTa aRmosavluri pasuxi miviRe, - 

megobrebs ar ubrazdebian, megobrebze 

guli swydebaT da maT nacvlad ganicdian~ 

da misi moqalaqeebis sargeblis interesebisTvis 

aris gankuTvnili. 

aqve isic gasagebia, raoden mZime 

viTarebaSi aRmoCnda xelisufleba 

imTaviTve arasworad miRebuli 

gadawyvetilebis gamo. miT 

ufro TemaSi ruseTis SemoyvaniT 

da saxelSekrulebo SantaJis 

pirobebSi. 

Tumca gamouvali mdgomareoba 

ar arsebobs da xelisuflebis valdebulebac 

ki aris, rom amjerad 

mainc minimaluri dazianebebiT 

gamovides am procesidan da rogorc 

ityvian, kartebi bolomde 

gaxsnas. momavali Taobebis garatiiT 

ki arc erT pirobas ar daTanxmdes, 

miT ufro iseTs, romlis riskebis 

prognozirebac am viTareba- 

Si, erTi mxriv, cxadic aris da, meore 

mxriv, Znelad prognozirebadi. 

pirovnuli Semadgeneli 

mokled, albaT, Zalian ideuri 

unda iyo da saxelmwifos aRqmisa 

da gagebis xedvac unda gqondes 

imisTvis, rom ara mxolod zedapirulad, 

aramed siRrmiseulad 

gaiazro, ra aris anaklia saqarTvelos 

momavlisTvis. vgoneb, maqvs 

amis pretenzia, imis miuxedavad, 

ramdenad SeiZleba Cemi mosazrebebi 

vinmem gaiziaros an piriqiT. 

etyoba, namdvilad ar var bolomde 

dalagebuli, Torem ra unda 

mrjides, anakliis proeqtisTvis 

investorebi veZebo? gasuli 

wlis zafxulSi saqarTveloSi 

stumrad imyofebodnen Sveicariuli 

da Cinuri kompaniebis warmomadgenlebi. 

Sveicariul kompanias 

sagzao infrastruqturisa da ker- 

Zod, dakidebuli metros mSeneblobis 

sakiTxi ainteresebda. baton 

kalaZesTanac movaxerxe maTi Sexvedra. 

saubari iyo 35-milionian 

investiaciaze. sakiTxi gaiWeda. magram 

es sxva Temaa. Cinelebs ki energetikuli 

da infrastruqturuli 

proeqtebi ainteresebdaT. magram 

radgan es sfero „okupirebulia”, 

Sevecade, maTi yuradReba 

anakliisTvis mimepyro. konsorciumis 

werilobiTi SemoTavazebebi 

rogorc proeqtTan, aseve anaklia 

sitisTan dakavSirebiT orive 

mxarem miiRo (ar SemiZlia, aq „anaklia 

sitis” aRmasrulebeli direqtoris, 

qeTi boWoriSvilis gulisxmierebaze 

ar visaubro. is namdvilad 

gamorCeuli menejeria am 

proeqtSi). 

Sveicarielebma uari Tqves sufTa 

subieqturi faqtorebidan 

gamomdinare. meriis magaliTze Cai- 

Tvala, rom saqarTveloSi biurokratia 

saSinlad muSaobs. rac 

Seexeba Cinelebs, ai, aq saqme mar- 

Tlac Zalian uxerxulad warimar- 

Ta. rogorc maT daadgines, Cinuri 

mxare dRemde nawyenia „fauer Cainas” 

mimarT gamoCenili damokidebulebiT 

da rac mTavaria, CineTis 

xelisuflebis warmomadgenelTa 

gabiTurebiT. metic: iTqva, rom 

„fauer Cainas” sakiTxi SeTanxmebuli 

hqonda CineTis saxalxo respublikis 

prezident si Zinpinis 

doneze da axla am sakiTxis xelaxla 

gacocxleba saxelmwifo doneze 

(ar igulisxmeba calkeuli Cinuri 

kompaniebis minimalizebuli 

monawileobis SesaZlebloba proeqtSi), 

Tan saTadarigo moTamaSis 

doneze, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebelia. 

metic: cnobili xdeba, rom 

CineTi mzad iyo, proeqtSi sxvadasxva 

mimarTulebiT ramdenime 

miliardi Caedo, konkretuli 

Tanxac ki dasaxelda: aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi 

gansaxorcielebeli _ 12 

miliardi aSS dolaris investicia 

anakliis portis infrastruqturis 

ganviTarebisa da Tanmdevi socialuri 

kulturuli da regionuli 

proeqtebis realizebisTvis. 

sul gaTvlili iyo 20-wliani sainvesticio 

periodi. 

simarTle giTxraT, am yvelafris 

mere cdunebas ver gavuZeli da 

vikiTxe, _ ratom ar brazdeba Cine- 

Ti sajarod? sufTa aRmosavluri 

pasuxi miviRe, _ megobrebs ar ubrazdebian, 

megobrebze guli swydebaT 

da maT nacvlad ganicdian. 

masalebi, romelic anakliis portTan 

dakavSirebiT Cems arqivSi 

dagrovda, 12 gadaZeZgil saqaRaldes 

moicavs. Sevecde, didad ar gadameRaleT 

zedmeti faqtebiT. 

Tumca publikaciis Semdeg Sesa- 

Zloa gaCndes SegrZneba, rom anakliis 

ganviTarebis konsorciumis 

winaaRmdegi var da Tavad baton 

xazaraZezec ar maqvs kargi warmodgena. 

ganvmartav: baton xazaraZes ar 

vicnob, mimaCnia karg menejerad, 

aqvs uamravi kargi socialuri da 

kulturuli proeqti, aris kargi 

finansisti, magram saxelSekrulebo 

avantiura cxadyofs, rom, samwuxarod, 

is ar gaxlavT gamorCeulad 

patiosani biznesmeni (pirovnuli 

Tvisebebi Cemi Sesafasebeli 

ar gaxlavT da arc arasodes vikadreb 

am mimarTulebiT aqcentebs), 

danarCeni kidev pozaa. vimeoreb: 

batoni xazaraZe saqarTvelos (anu 

TiToeuli misi moaqalaqis) saxeliT 

gaformebul xelSekrulebas 

moeqca ukiduresad cudad. man da 

masTan dakavSirebulma jgufma, 

misma lobistebma xelisuflebaSi 

veranairad ver gaTvales saqarTvelos 

saxelmwifosTvis umniSvnelovanesi 

geopolitikuri mniSvnelobis 

proeqtis pragmatuli 

nawili da fuls, SesaZloa, pirad 

ambiciebs daxarbdnen, rodesac 

iseT saqmes SeeWidnen, romelSic 

araferi gaegebodaT, mokled, qveynisTvis 

saziano „damplur TamaSebi” 

CaerTvnen. 

mokled, kargi iqneba, Tu batoni 

xazaraZec da xelisuflebac 

sworad gaiazreben, rom anaklia 

namdvilad aris Cemi proeqti saxelmwifoebriv 

prizmaSi da misiT 

nebismieri moqalaqis daintereseba 

da mxardaWera, aseve kritika, absoluturad 

sworia. 

dabolos 

zemoT „vefxistyaosani” vaxsene. 

tyulad ki ara. Tu xazaraZes da 

xelisuflebasac marTla undaT am 

proeqtis warmateba _ mxolod portis 

ageba araa warmateba, aramed 

anakliis transnacionalur ekonomikur 

habad Camoyalibeba, magaliTi 

saxezea _ mouyareT iq Tavi yvelas 

interess, gansakuTrebiT imaTsas, 

visac SeuZlia saqarTvelos 

Tanadgoma. metic: Tu gvinda, rom 

aq qveyanaSi „oqros sawmisic” gvqondes 

da is arasodes wagvarTvan, 

mas bevri megobari unda icavdes 

CvenTan erTad da, ra Tqma unda, 

maTTvisac Rirebuli unda iyos. 

ho, raoden gasakviric ar unda 

iyos, iqneb, Tavad batoni xazaraZe 

daelaparakos axla gnebavT „fauer 

Cainas” an CineTis xelisuflebas. 

damijereT, es erT-erTi swori 

da pragmatuli nabiji iqneba. erTerTi 

da ara erTaderTi. iseve, 

rogorc swori iqneboda saxelSekrulebo 

pirobebis dacva rogorc 

konsorciumis, aseve xelisuflebis 

mxridan. magram axla amas gverdi 

avuaroT. proeqts globalur 

prizmaSi SevxedoT da upirvelesad 

politikuri da saxelmwifoebrivi 

usafrTxoebis garantiebis 

kuTxiT. dro da Sansi jerac aris. 

Torem anaklia namdvilad aSendeba 

_ gaaCnia, rogor da ris fasad? 

sul es iyo, rac am publikacia- 

Si mindoda meTqva. sxva aseve umniSvnelovanes 

detalebze Semdgom 

publikaciebSi visaubreb. 

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giorgi abaSiZe 


„qronika+~-is dRevandeli respondeti, istorikosi da poli- 

tikis mecnierebaTa mkvlevari, yofili deputati nestan kirTaZe, 

iseT detalebze saubrobs, romliTac „cianidis saqmesa“ da same- 

fo karis garSemo bolo dros ganviTarebul movlenebs sxva 

WrilSi dainaxavT. marTalia, qalbatoni nestani konkretikisgan 

Tavs ikavebs, magram qveteqstebiT bevr miniSnebas akeTebs. Sesabamisad, 

winamdebare interviu saero xelisuflebasa da sapatri- 

arqos administracias, didi albaTobiT, bevr Tavis tkivils 

gauCens, miT umetes, rom nestan kirTaZe, romelic uwmindesis 

sulieri Svilia, patriarqTan tet-a-tet Sexvedris detalebs 

ixsenebs da im sityvebsac asajaroebs, romelic ilia meorem mas 

„cianidis saqmis“ pirveli Sokis gavlis Semdeg uTxra. 

maS, ase: „qronika+“ gTavazobT 

eqskluzivs - skandalur inter- 

vius nestan kirTaZesTan. 

_ qalbatono nestan, partiul 

saqmianobas ar eweviT da erTgvar- 

ad damkvirvebeli xarT, amitomac 

Tqveni azri sainteresoa, _ ra 

xdeba, qveyanaSi ra procesebi vi- 

Tardeba? 

_ uaxles istoriaSi, anu Cvens 

TanamedroveobaSi, saqarTvelos 

aseTi rTuli periodi ar hqonia. 

ar vaWarbeb da am Sefasebas vakeTeb, 

rogorc politikosi, aseve 

rogorc politikis mecnierebaTa 

eqsperti da, gnebavT, istorikosi. 

dRes saqarTvelo yvelaze mkafio 

gamowvevis winaSe dgas. 

_ es ra gamowvevaa? 

_ saqarTvelo SeinarCunebs Tu 

ara saxelmwifoebriobas. es marto 

mTavari gamowveva ki ara, Cveni qveynis 

mTavari RerZia, romelzedac 

saqarTvelos mTeli istoriaa awyobili. 

_ SegiZliaT, daasabuToT, Tu 

ratom dgas saqarTvelos saxelm- 

wifoebrioba safrTxis winaSe? 

_ dRes xilulad Cans, rom arc 

gamarTulad da arc gaumarTavad 

TiTqmis aRar funqcionirebs saxelmwifo 

institutebi _ isini inerciis 

doneze arsebobs. aseve ar 

arsebobs da saocari dartymis qve- 

Saa marTlmsajuleba. saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebis yvela Sto, maT Soris, 

parlamenti da mTavrobac, absoluturad 

fsevdoxasiaTisaa. 

erTaderTi, romelic yvelafris 

sadarajoze dgas, mediaa, ufro 

konkretulad, mediis gamorCeuli 

gamocemebi. ase rom, sazogadoeba 

da media, jerjerobiT, mayureblis 

ki ara, modarajis rolSi gamodian. 

modarajeebma da saxelmwifos 

mesaZirkvleebma unda icodnen, rom 

dRes qarTuli saxelmwifoebrioba 

kiTxvis niSnis qveSaa! 

_ „ocnebis“ xelisuflebam sax- 

elmwifoebrioba kiTxvis niSnamde 

mizanmimarTulad miiyvana? 

_ suraTs da im vels daakvirdiT, 

romelsac saqarTvelos veZaxiT. 

_ ras hqvia, veZaxiT? es xom 

saqarTveloa? 

_ am qveynas dRes qarTul saxelmwifos 

ver davuZaxeb. 

_ ratom? 

_ yvela mimarTulebiT apokalifsuri 

suraTi ixateba, anu rogorc 

ityvian, ZaRli patrons ver 

scnobs da es exeba sapatriarqos, 

saero da sasamarTlo xelisuflebas. 

erTi sityviT, didi cvlilebebis 

momswreni varT. magaliTad, 

eklesiaSi mTavrdeba epoqaluri 

patriarqis mmarTvelobis dro da 

axali iwyeba, oRondac sapatriarqos 

administraciaSi imisTvis izrunes, 

rom es bunebrivi cvla _ memkvidreobiTobis 

xazis bunebrivi 

gagrZeleba ar yofiliyo. 

_ „cianidis saqmeze“ akeTebT 

aqcents? 

_ yvela im procesze vakeTeb 

aqcents, rac dRes saqarTvelos 

sapatriarqos administraciaSi mimdinareobs. 

_ sanam sapatriarqos administraciis 

TamaSebs gavSliT, miTx- 

ariT, Tqveni dakvirvebiT, yve- 

lafer amaSi saero xelisufleba 

Tu Caeria an kvali CrdiloeTamde 

xom ar midis, anu ruseTia xelSemwyobi, 

rom saqarTvelos sax- 

elmwifoebrioba kiTxvis niSnis 

qveS damdgariyo? 

_ pasuxs martivad ver gagcemT... 

gaxsovT uwmindesisa da unetaresis 

bolo viziti moskovSi? maSin 

patriarqs moskovSi unda gavyolodi, 

magram avad gavxdi. 

_ patriarqi moskovSi bolos, 

mgoni, 2017 wels iyo, ara? 

_ weli zustad ar maxsovs, SegiZliaT, 

daadginoT, Tumca Tu ar 

vcdebi, es viziti noemberSi an dekemberSi 

iyo. 

_ anu „cianidis skandali“ jer 

dawyebuli ar iyo? 

_ vfiqrob, rom yvela es momenti 

win iyo... tradiciulad, uwmindess 

yvela ZiriTad Sexvedraze vaxldi 

xolme... 

_ cnobilia, rom ilia meoresTan 

axlo urTierToba gqon- 

daT. 

_ diax. mokled, rodesac ilia 

II moskovidan CamobrZanda, vkiTxe, 

_ vizitis Sedegebi rogori iyomeTqi? 

mipasuxa, _ klimati uaRresad 

mkacri iyo, magram daxvedra 

kidev ufro mkacrio. marTalia, 

detalebsac kargad vicnob, magram 

ai, maSin, zedmeti detalebis gareSe 

mivxvdi, rom moskovi patriarqis 

Sesacvlelad emzadeboda! 

_ am dros meufe Sio ukve pa- 

triarqis Tanamosaydrea? 

_ ara, es manamde xdeba. sxvaTa 

Soris, Tqven is Jurnalisti xarT, 

romelmac „cianidis saqmis“ gaxmianebis 

dResve damirekeT, magram 

Tu gaxsovT, komentari Segnebulad 

ar gavakeTe, Tumca giTxariT, 

uaxloes wuTebSi socialur qsel- 

Si statuss davwer-meTqi. marTlac, 

ase moviqeci da statusi _ „klinika 

saqarTvelo“ gamovaqveyne. 

dResac saqarTvelo klinikaa, yvela 

mimarTuleba klinikuria. cvlilebebis 

winaSe dgas eklesia, aseve 

xelisufleba. vinmes unda Tu 

ara an egueba Tu ara, cikli dasrulebulia 

da sruliad axali cikli 

unda daiwyos. rogori iqneba 

es axali cikli _ cudi, kargi, sa- 

Sualo Tu saukeTeso, es Cveni qveynis 

mosaxleobam unda gansazRvros, 

magram vTqvaT, rom Zveli ciklis 

dasrulebis dros erTi mxarec 

ar an ver aRmoCnda im simaRleze, 

rom siaxlis dawyebam yvelaze 

mTavari _ qarTuli saxelmwifoebrioba 

ar Seiwiros! 

_ meCveneba, rom dRes patri- 

arqTan axlo urTierToba aRar 

gaqvT. vcdebi? 

_ ras brZanebT?! misi sulieri 

Svili var da yoveldRiuri kontaqti 

maqvs. 

_ Tu asea, cxadia, gecodinebaT, 

aris Tu ara uwmindesi calkeuli 

adamianebis tyveobaSi, anu viRace- 

bi patriarqs araswor an maTTvis 

sasurvel informacias awvdian? 

_ dRevandel intervius aseT 

detalebze sasaubrod ar ganvixilav, 

magram es kiTxva upasuxod 

rom ar davtovo, getyviT: sapatriarqos 

administraciaSi Zalian bev- 

`patriarqi, 

ri interesTa jgufi arsebobs da 

am interesTa jgufebma, zogma calke 

da zogmac _ gaerTianebuli 

ZalebiT, Cveni uwmindesis fizikuri 

dasustebiTa da daRlilobiT, 

ubralod, isargebles da damoukidebeli 

TamaSi maTTvis saintereso 

poziciebiT daiwyes. 

_ qalbatono nestan, pirdapir 

gekiTxebiT: Sorena TeTruaS- 

vilTan rogori urTierToba 

gaqvT? 

_ Sorena, vfiqrob, imdeni yuradRebis 

Rirsi ar aris, rom am interviuSi 

SevexoT. masTan Cveulebrivi 

urTierToba mqonda, Tumca 

SemiZlia, giTxraT, rom patriarqTan 

urTierTobaSi Cemi Suamavali 

arasodes yofila. uwmindess 

an pirdapir vukavSirdebodi an 

Tavad mikavSirdeboda da roca 

amas saWirod miiCnevs, mikavSirdeba 

kidec. 

_ patriarqTan „cianidis 

saqmeze“ gisaubriaT? 

_ rasakvirvelia. 

_ uwmindesis pozicia rogori 

iyo da aris? 

_ pirveli pozicia „cianidis saqmeze“ 

Cveulebrivi Soki iyo, magram 

roca am Sokis emociam gaiara 

da uwmindesi saqarTveloSi CamobrZanda 

da germaniis romeliRac 

klinikis pacienti ki ara, sruliad 

saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi 

iyo, swored am mzeriT CemTan 

saubrisas Tqva, _ es farsiao. 

_ amis Sesaxeb patriarqma saja- 

ro gancxadeba ratom ar gaakeTa? 

im dajgufebebs, romelic weRan 

axseneT, ver umklavdeba? uwmind- 

esi martoa? 

_ SesaZloa, mTel rig SemTxvevebSi 

marto iyos, SesaZloa, mis 

garSemo viRacebi trialebdnen, 

magram rogorc patriarqi, rasakvirvelia, 

martoa! 

_ am mocemulobas saxelmwifo 

saTavisod iyenebs? 

_ erT eqskluzivs getyviT: 2015 

an 2016 wels ukve vicodi, rom sapatriarqoSi 

iyo axalgazrda 

mRvdeli, mama giorgi mamalaZe, romelsac 

konkretuli funqcia hqonda 

da man TavisTvis, damoukideblad 

an vinmes davalebiT saqarTvelos 

eklesiis qonebasa da im korufciul 

faqtebTan dakavSirebiT, 

romelzedac moaruli xma dadioda, 

kvleva daiwyo. im dros, 

roca amis Sesaxeb gavige, amasTan 

dakavSirebiT ukve arsebobda sakmaod 

sqeltaniani masala da im 

wreSi, sadac am Temaze, rasakvirvelia, 

daxuruli da eqskluziuri 

saubari gvqonda, vTqvi: es viTareba 

urTierTobas Zalian gaamwvavebs 

da ramdenime adamiani SesaZloa, 

dartymis qveS aRmoCndes-meTqi. 

getyviT, yvelaferi es saiTkenac 

midis: es ar aris, davuSvaT, patrioti 

mamuliSvilebis brZola 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqos gansawmendad 

da raRac xelovnuri ka- 

Tarzisebis mosawyobad. 

_ aba, ra aris? 

_ is aris, riTac saubari daviwyeT 

_ sapatriarqos Zalauflebis 

SenarCunebis an Zalauflebis gadanawilebis 

etapi daudga. samwuxarod 

da saubedurod, janmrTelobaSeryeuli, 

magram realurad arsebuli 

patriarqis sicocxleSive daiwyes 

sapatriarqo taxtisa da gavlenebis 

gadanawilebisTvis brZola. 

_ qalbatono nestan, Tqven, 

rogorc istorikoss, geqmnebaT 

Tu ara gancda, rom „cianidis saq- 

mis“ mTavari mizani patriarqis 

mocileba iyo? 

_ „cianidis saqmis“ mTavari mizani 

sapatriarqo taxtze xelisuflebisTvis 

sasurveli patriarqis 

aRyvaneba iyo! amas ra formiT ganaxorcielebdnen 

da ra proeqti 

Seadgines gonebadabnelebulma 

adamianebma _ aTeistebma Tu specsamsaxurebis 

warmomadgenlebma, es 

ukve maTi problemaa, Tumca am vi- 

Tarebis gamo eklesia da bevri war- 

Cinebuli sasuliero moZRvari 

Zalian gailaxa, magram, sabednierod, 

am wiaRSi aRmoCndnen Zalian 

gabeduli mamebi, iseTebi, rogorebic 

arian, magaliTad, meufe petre, 

meufe grigoli da am adamianebma 

saqarTvelos eklesiis sindisis- 

Tvis brZola xelSi aiRes. 

_ xelisuflebisTvis sasurve- 

li mRvdelmsaxuri, visac ilia 

meore unda Seecvala, meufe Sioa? 

_ ara. 

_ aba, vin aris? 

_ amas axla mniSvneloba ar aqvs. 

_ CagekiTxebiT: mRvdelmTa- 

vari, romlis gapatriarqebasac 

xelisufleba gegmavda Tu gegmavs, 

ase vTqvaT, gapiarebulia? 

uwmindesis 

sulieri 

Svili 

alaparakda 

_ saubari gavagrZeloT. 

_ am Temaze saubari ratom ar 

gindaT? 

_ Tu momindeba, am intervius 

dasrulebamde aucileblad vityvi! 

_ gasagebia... im mRvdelmTavars, 

romlis vinaobis dasaxelebisga- 

nac Tavs ikavebT, kremlTan bma 

aqvs? 

_ rogori iqneba saqarTvelos 

sapatriarqos memkvidreobiTobis 

xazi da vin dabrZandeba sapatriarqo 

taxtze, es kremlisTvis aTas 

meerTexarisxovani sakiTxi ar aris, 

radgan religiuri bmis garda es 

regionSi, konkretulad, saqarTveloSi 

kremlis gavlenebis bmac 

aris, miT umetes, rom saqarTvelos 

uZveles eklesias msoflio mar- 

Tlmadideblur samyaroSi udidesi 

gavlena aqvs. ase rom, aq kremlis 

daintereseba, ra Tqma unda, ar 

gamoiricxeba! 

_ „cianidis saqmeze“ ivaniSvil- 

ma, Tqveni informaciiT, winaswar 

icoda Tu saqmis kursSi post- 

faqtum Caayenes? 

_ Cemi ki ara, mgoni, hiCkokis 

fantaziac ver wava iqamde, es winaswar 

vin icoda da vin _ ara, Tumca, 

rasakvirvelia, cidan ar Camovardnila. 

es sakmaod organizebuli, 

boroti proeqti iyo, magram 

proeqtis avtorebma da misma Semsruleblebma, 

ubralod, ver gaTvales, 

rom RmerTze Zlierebi ar 

arian! SeiZleba, maT patriarqis 

gamosaTxovari werilebic ki hqondaT 

gamzadebuli, magram patriarqi 

gadarCa! 

metsac getyviT: piradad mqonda 

kontaqti germaniis im klinikasTan, 

sadac uwmindesi imyofeboda 

da germaneli eqimebi gaocebulebi 

ambobdnen, or dReSi sura- 

Ti sruliad Seicvala da patriarqs 

operacia aRar dasWirdao. mokled, 

patriarqis ise gayvana, rogorc 

amas e. w. cianidis proeqtis 

avtorebi gegmavdnen, RmerTma ar 

dauSva! 

_ anu uSvebT, operacia rom 

gakeTebuliyo, Sedegi SesaZloa, 

fataluri damdgariyo? 

_ es jgufi patriarqis sakmaod 

mZime fizikuri mdgomareobiT 

sargeblobda da sapatriarqo taxtze 

misTvis sasurveli kandida- 

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rasakvirvelia, martoa!~ 

tis dasmaze zrunva vadaze adre 

daiwyo! 

am sakiTxis mkvlevari ar var, 

Tumca zustad vici: mama giorgi 

mamalaZe, romelsac yvela CvenganiviT 

Tavisi codvebi, sixarulebi, 

warmatebebi aqvs, mkvleli ar aris 

da viRac borotma jgufma am scenarSi 

Casva da gamoiyena! amiT ori 

kurdReli daiWira: erTi mxriv, sapatriarqos 

administraciaSi korufciuli 

sqemebis gaSifvris 

mcdeloba dadumda, arada, sapatriarqos 

administraciis warmomadgenlebi 

da sasuliero pirebi saero 

xelisuflebasTan erTad unisonSi 

sakmaod did qonebas inawilebdnen; 

meore mxriv ki, marTalia, 

am jgufma bevri ram ver gaTvala, 

magram yvelafer amas mama giorgi 

mamalaZe im mxriv emsxverpla, rom 

is dRes ukanono tusaRia! 

_ gamodis, rom avtorebs ciani- 

dis boroti proeqti CauvardaT, 

ara? 

_ diax. 

_ am konteqstSive ganvixiloT 

saqarTvelos samefo saxlis 

garSemo bolo dros ganviTarebu- 

li movlenebic, anu, qalbatono 

nestan, is, rac dRes bagrationeb- 

Si xdeba, raRacnairad, „cianidis 

proeqtis“ gagrZeleba xom ar 

aris, miT umetes, rom saqmeSi ukve 

sapatriarqo figurirebs _ daviT 

muxranelis advokatis TqmiT, 

swored sapatriarqos dnm-is ana- 

liziT dadginda, rom nugzar 

bagration-gruzinski, sinamdvile- 

Si, sixaruliZea? 

aqve gagaxsenebT: 2009 wels 

uwmindesi, miuxedavad imisa, rom 

memkvidris dabadeba misi idea iyo, 

anasa da daviTis jvrisweras ar 

daeswro. 

_ patriarqi maSinac germaniaSi 

iyo samkurnalod. 

_ diax, vici, magram SeiZleboda, 

jvriswera uwmindesis dabrunebis 

mere Semdgariyo... mok- 

led, eklesiis imijis Selaxvis 

Semdeg igive monarqiis diskreditaciasac 

CrdiloeTi xom ar cdi- 

lobs? 

_ yvelaferi, rasac dRes politikur 

konteqstSi gaaJRerebT, 

erTaderTisken midis da es erTaderTi 

qarTuli saxelmwifoebrobis 

winaaRmdeg brZolaa! qveynis 

SigniT da gareT Zalian bevri interesTa 

jgufia, romelic qarTuli 

saxelmwifoebriobis winaaRmdeg 

gacnobierebulad Tu gaucnobiereblad 

midis! ise, Zalian kargi 

iqneba, Tu am sakiTxebze media 

ufro gaaqtiurdeba. 

rac Seexeba samefo dinastias, 

SemiZlia, yovelgvari Tavmdablobis 

gareSe vTqva, rom Cems cxovrebaSi 

ramdenime Zvirfasi da saamayo 

epizodia, maT Sorisaa uwmindesis 

sulieri Sviloba. roca axali ideebi 

da proeqtebi mzaddeboda, er- 

TmaneTs Zalian xSirad vxvdebodiT. 

ase gaCnda dinastiis aRdgenis 

ideac da amaze patriarqis mosazrebebs 

viwerdi. sxvaTa Soris, roca 

wignis _ „naTeli qristesi“ pirvel 

toms vamzadebdiT, uwmindesma 

pirdapir momca davaleba, rom 

wignSi aucileblad Semetana bagrationTa 

genealogia, aseve is epizodi, 

romelic sveticxovelSi mefeTa 

kurTxevas exeba. imis Tqma minda, 

rom es mxolod proeqti ar iyo, 

anu marto am patriarqs SeeZlo, es 

idea araTu gasCenoda, aramed misi 

`patriarqis 

gamosaTxovari 

werilebi hqondaT 

gamzadebuli... 

am jgufma 

sapatriarqo 

taxtze patriarqis 

sasurveli 

kandidatis 

dasmaze zrunva 

vadaze adre 

daiwyo~ 

realizaciisTvisac ezruna, vinaidan 

laparaki mmarTvel mefeze arasodes 

yofila. Cveni patriarqi 

uaRresad Tanamedrovea da is geopolitikuri 

procesebi, rac saqarTvelos 

garSemo mimdinareobs, 

zedmiwevniT icis. diax, uwmindess 

undoda, rom kacobriobas saqarTvelo 

mxolod uZvelesi qristianuli 

civilizaciis ki ara, uZvelesi 

istoriuli saxelmwifoebriobis 

qveynadac ecno. amis yvelaze 

naTeli gamoxatuleba da dadastureba 

uZvelesi samefo dinastiis 

gacocxlebaa. 

_ yvelaferi es gasagebia, magram, 

qalbatono nestan, dRes amboben, 

maSin, roca anasa da davi- 

Tis qorwineba gadawyda, sapatriarqosTvis 

cnobili iyo, rom nug- 

zar bagrationi, sinamdvileSi, 

sixaruliZeao. jer erTi, sain- 

teresoa, ratom sixarulZe da ara, 

vTqvaT, RobeglejiaSvili? meorec, 

Tu sapatriarqom amis Sesax- 

eb icoda, maSin anasa da daviTis 

SeuRlebas xeli ratom Seuwyo? 

_ aseTi tipis procesebi seirad 

da monarqiis ideis Selaxvad meCveneba. 

Tu dRes vinme aris Zalian 

Rirseuli qarTveli da vinme Tavisi 

RirsebiT, suliTa da xorciT 

brwyinavs, es ana bagrationia, 

romelmac zustad gaigo is misia, 

rac RmerTisgan patriarqisa da sa- 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 

xelmwifos winaSe ekisreboda. erTi 

RmerTma da meore ana bagrationma 

icis, am jvris zidvis gamo ra didi 

sulieri da gnebavT, adamianuri 

tanjva ergo. es aris namdvili 

bagrationis svla, raTa qarTul 

saxelmwifos ganviTarebadi qveyana 

ki ar erqvas, aramed, civilizebuli 

beWedi epyras, romelic misi 

saxelmwifoebriobis mravalsaukunovan 

istorias usvams xazs! 

ra daiwera da ra komentars 

akeTebs Sorenas rCeuli jgufi, 

maT Soris, giorgi andriaZe, es arc 

me mainteresebs, arc sazogadoebas 

unda ainteresebdes da istoriasac 

ar daainteresebs. es marto man ki 

ara, sxvebmac unda icodnen! 

_ samagierod, sazogadoebas 

ainteresebs da, albaT, istoriac 

dainteresdeba, Tu ratom SeirCa 

anas Tanamecxedred, maincdamainc, 

daviT bagration-muxraneli? 

_ amas Tavisi genezisi aqvs. amaze 

jgufebi muSaobdnen, magram detalebSi 

ver Seval. ise, ori-sami 

iseTi pasaJi giTxariT, romliTac 

bevri ram gaixsna! 

_ am konteqstSi gansakuTrebiT 

saintereso Sorenas xseneba iyo. 

sxvaTa Soris, megona, rom aqve 

levan vasaZesac axsenebdiT, romelsac 

2013 wels nugzar bagra- 

tion-gruzinskim raindis wodeba 

mianiWa. axlaxan, „qronika+“-ma 

gaavrcela informacia, rom vasaZ- 

es saqarTvelos premieroba unda, 

aseve Cvenma gamocemam dawera, rom 

gavleniani rusi biznesmenebi sai- 

dumlo vizitiT saqarTveloSi 

Camovidnen da Sexvedrebi sapa- 

triarqoSi gamarTes. yvelaferi 

es erTi ajafsandalia? 

_ diax, geTanxmebiT, es erTi 

ajafsandalia... Tqven iseTi Jurnalisti 

xarT, romelic sulis 

moTqmis saSualebas yvelaze daxvewil 

respondentsac ar aZlevT 

da amitom zustad velodi, rom am 

Zalian mniSvnelovan pasaJze aucileblad 

mimiTiTebdiT... rogorc 

saqarTveloSi, aseve ruseTSic axali 

ciklisTvis mzadebis procesia, 

iqac dapirispirebaa saero da 

sasuliero xelisuflebas Soris. 

ruseTis saeklesio xelisuflebas 

Tavisi favoriti hyavs, Tu vin Sei- 

Zleba movides saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi. 

_ es favoriti levan vasaZea? 

_ RmerTma ar qnas aseTi proeqtis 

ganxorcieleba, magram es iqneba 

raRac orTodoqsi-nacionalisturi 

frTa, romelic saqarTvelos 

ramdenime saukuniT ukan daxevs! 

_ xelmeored gekiTxebiT: ruse- 

Tis saeklesio xelisufleba 

saqarTvelos mmarTvelad levan 

vasaZes amzadebs? 

_ amaze eqspertebs hkiTxeT. me 

`2015 an 2016 wels ukve vicodi, 

rom sapatriarqoSi iyo 

axalgazrda mRvdeli, mama 

giorgi mamalaZe, romelsac 

konkretuli funqcia hqonda da 

man TavisTvis, damoukideblad 

an vinmes davalebiT 

saqarTvelos eklesiis qonebasa 

da im korufciul faqtebTan 

dakavSirebiT, romelzedac 

moaruli xma dadioda, 

kvleva daiwyo~ 

is koncefcia giTxariT, romelic 

dRes ruseTSi arsebobs. 

aseve arsebobs meore koncefciac, 

romlis mixedviTac saero xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi fiqroben, 

rogori tipis gavlena Sei- 

Zleba arsebobdes saqarTveloze. 

ase rom, es faruli Tu Ria brZola 

mimdinareobs da amas gamoxatuleba 

saqarTveloSic aucileblad 

eqneba! 

zogadad, mTel am speqtakls, 

romelsac viRac kulisebidan mar- 

Tavs da wina planze gamoaqvs, Tavisi 

datvirTva aqvs, anu es Temebi 

avanscenaze bunebrivi simwifis gamo 

ar gamodis, Tumca yvelaferi 

es erT saerTo konteqstSi jdeba 

da es Zalauflebis gadanawilebis 

procesia, romelic erTcikliani 

saarCevno procesi ar aris. Zalauflebis 

gadanawileba, rac axla daiwyeba, 

momavali 30 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

gagrZeldeba. 

_ ase ratom fiqrobT? 

_ mTeli msoflio da msoflio 

wesrigi Seicvala, Tumca, wina wesrigisgan 

gansxvavebiT, axla konkretuli 

SeTanxmeba monaxazis donezec 

ar arsebobs. msoflio wesrigis 

mamebi kulisebsa da kulisebs 

miRmac am wesebs axla, ase vTqvaT, 

awyoben. asi wlis winandel politikur 

wesrigSi saqarTvelo msoflio 

politikur rukaze ver moixaza. 

dRes moixazeba Tu ara an Zalian 

mniSvnelovani aqtiori gaxdeba 

Tu ara, es pirdapir dakavSirebulia 

anakliis saerTaSoriso proeqtTan! 

es proeqti romelime konkretuli 

biznesmenis an komerciuli 

operatoris beds ki ara, saqar- 

Tvelos geopolitikur adgils 

cvlis, magram amaze warmodgena am 

proeqtis avtorebsac ar aqvT! 

mokled, nu SeiWreba biznesi 

politikur velSi da is iqneba warmatebuli 

biznesi! 

nu SeiWreba eklesia politika- 

Si da is iqneba eris sulieri sayrdeni, 

citadeli da im gaugebrobebisgan, 

rac daatyda, Tavs daixsnis! 

yvelafer amis Semoqmedi, pirvel 

rigSi, sapatriarqos administraciaa 

da amas pirdapir vabob. ise, 

Jurnalistebs gTxovT, rom sapatriarqo 

da sapatriarqos administracia 

erTmaneTisgan ganasxvavoT. 

aseve politikur velSi arc samefo 

proeqti unda SeiWras. sxvaTa 

Soris, postsabWoTa qveynebSi roialisturi 

mimdinareobebi gaCnda. 

magaliTad, bulgareTma, am tendenciis 

gamo, monarqia simbolurad 

aRadgina, magram axalgazrda 

mefem premieroba moindoma. premieri 

ki gaxda, magram erT weliwad- 

Si panRuriT gaagdes, anu rogorc 

ki es jer kidev ararsebuli institutebi 

politikaSi SeiWrebian, ma- 

Ti araTu kuTxeSi dayeneba, aramed 

gaWyleta moxdeba! 

da kidev erTi: Tqveni gazeTis 

saSualebiT: yvela 90-ianel politikossa 

da, saerTod, patiosan 

adamians, vinc saqarTvelos damoukideblobis 

idea SeinarCuna, vinc 

damoukideblobasa da konstituciaze 

xeli moawera, veubnebi: dadga 

dro, yovelgvari enis moCleqis 

gareSe pasuxismgebloba aiRon da 

erTiani erovnuli platforma Seiqmnas, 

raTa saqarTvelom, rogorc 

mravaleTnikurma da demokratiulma 

saxelmwifom, istoriaSi Tavisi 

svla gaagrZelos! 

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12 marts cnobili gaxda, rom okupirebul afxazeTSi 

qarTveli gardaicvala. saokupacio reJimma informacia gaavr- 

cela, rom 29 wlis irakli kvaracxeliam Tavi moikla, Tumca 

imTaviTve gaCnda eWvi, rom axalgazrda qarTvelma tatunaSvili-oTxozorias 

bedi gaiziara, rac imas niSnavs, rom kvracxelia 

saokupacio reJimma mokla! amas fotomasalac adas- 

turebs. kvaracxelias ojaxis wevrebi da axloblebi amboben, 

rom mamakacs welis aresa da saxeze dazianebebi aReniSneba, 

tanze ki silurjeebi etyoba. zogadad, 2012 wlis pirveli 

oqtombris Semdeg rusuli okupaciis axali etapi daiwyo, 

rasac „mcocavi okupacia” hqvia. amis miuxedavad, oficialuri 

Tbilisi erTgvarad siraqlemis pozaSia da kremlTan urTier- 

Tobis garkvevas e. w. abaSiZe-karasinis formatiT cdilobs. 

specialistebi amboben, rom es formati mkvdradSobilia, rad- 

gan ruseTTan enis moCleqiT saubari Sedegs ar moitans. 

am pozicias teritoriuli 

mTlianobis aRdgenis sakiTxTa 

saqarTvelos parlamentis droe- 

biTi komisiis yofili Tavmjd- 

omare, „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

wevri, SoTa malaSxiac iziarebs, 

romelic „qronika+~-Tan saubri- 

sas maxvils rusuli „botebis 

sistemaze” svams da ambobs, rom 

kremls saqarTveloSi sakuTari 

xelisufleba hyavs: 

_ batono SoTa, marTalia, 

ruseTi Cvens qveyanas ori saukunea 

eomeba, magram 2012 wlis pirv- 

el oqtombers, anu mas Semdeg, rac 

saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi „qa- 

rTuli ocneba” movida, Cvens leq- 

sikonSi axali termini gaCnda _ 

„mcocavi okupacia”. „mcocav oku- 

pacias”, pirdapir Tu iribad, 

mmarTveli gundi xom ar uwyobs 

xels? 

_ faqtebs mivyveT. 

_ ki batono, mivyveT. 

_ 2008 wlis agvistoSi, roca 

omi moxda, dasavleTs SesaZloa, ar 

egona, rom ruseTi aseTi agresiuli 

saxelmwifo iyo. zogadad, dasavleTi 

Seumcdari ar aris da 

CvenTan mimarTebiTac bevri Secdoma 

dauSva, magaliTad, mapi ar 

mogvca. sxvaTa Soris, stoltenbergi 

dRes ambobs, Tavis droze, 

Secdoma davuSvi, saqarTvelos da 

ukrainas mapi rom ar miveciTo. mokled, 

dasavleTma yvelaferi ver 

gaiTvaliswina da ukrainis procesebi 

miiRo. 

_ anu ukrainis ambebi agvistos 

omis gamoZaxili iyo? 

_ diax, ukrainis movlenebi 

agvistos omis gagrZeleba iyo. imperiuli 

Zalebis Tavxeduri survili, 

romelic sabWoTa kavSiris 

aRdgenas ukavSirdeba, kargad ar 

gaiazres, ar gaiTvaliswines da 

imis gamo, rom dasavleTma ruseTs 

saqarTveloSi saTanado pasuxi ar 

gasca, ukraina miiRo. 

_ saqarTvelos maSindelma xe- 

lisuflebam dasavleTi ruseTis 

agresiulobaSi ratom ver daarw- 

muna? 

_ realobis Secvla martivi ar 

aris, radgan msoflio sazogadoebriobas 

5-milioniani eris warmomadgenloba 

elaparakeba, magram 

miuxedavad amisa, saqarTvelom Se- 

Zlo, rom gaeros, natosa da 

evrokavSiris rezoluciebi miiRo. 

gaiTvaliswineT, sad Cveni da sad 

ruseTis masmediis SesaZleblobebi, 

magram mainc SevZeliT araRiarebis 

politikis saerTaSoriso 

doneze gatana, aseve saerTaSoriso 

sasamarTloebSi sakiTxebis dayeneba, 

anu Cvens xelT arsebuli yvela 

resursis amoZraveba daviwyeT. 

mas Semdeg, rac mTliani sura- 

Ti gamoikveTa, dasavleTis midgomebic 

Seicvala da Sesabamisad, yirimSi 

Sesvlis Semdeg dasavleTs 

ruseTis mimarT sul sxva pasuxi 

hqonda. 

_ diax, yirimis SemTxvevaSi 

dasavleTi ufro aqtiuri iyo. 

_ ki batono, bolos da bolos, 

ruseTs sanqciebi dauwesa. 

ise, konkretulad Tu gainter- 

10 

esebT, me ra gavakeTe, getyviT: 17 

dokumenturi filmi gadaviRe, romliTac 

msoflios vuTxari, Tu 

saqarTvelos yuradRebas ar miqcevT, 

maSin ukrainaSi axal galadamors 

miiRebT da ise nu iqceviT, 

rogorc msoflio miunxenis garigebis 

dros moiqca, roca hitlers 

Tavidan yvelafers uTmobda, sa- 

Tanado pasuxi ar gasca da, sabolood, 

monstri miiRo-meTqi. 

mokled, ukrainis movlenebis 

Semdeg ruseTis mimarT saerTa- 

Soriso wnexi gamoikveTa. amitom 

ruseTs erTaderTi saSualebaRa 

darCa _ is, rac tankiT ver gaake- 

Ta, ivaniSvilis xeliT gaekeTebina! 

ai, ase movediT 2012 wlamde. 

gaxsovT, „qarTuli ocnebis” 

mTavari Tema ra iyo? 

_ ra? 

_ omis dawyebas saqarTvelos 

abralebda. amas akeTebda, Tavis 

droze, ivaniSvili, amas akeTebs 

aseve dRevandeli prezidenti, romelsac 

piradad me, rogorc moqalaqe 

da partiis lideri, prezidentad 

ar vcnob, radgan prezidenti 

gayalbebiT gaxda, anu ar- 

Ceuli ar aris. amasve akeTebs parlamentis 

Tavmjdomarec, anu mTeli 

saxelisuflebo speqtri omis 

dawyebas saqarTvelos abralebs. 

_ Tu mexsiereba ar mRalatobs, 

saqarTvelo omis dawyebaSi ba- 

tonma ivaniSvilma, jer kidev, 

2012 wlis arCevnebamde erT-erT 

pirvel brifingze daadanaSaula. 

miuxedavad amisa, maSin mosaxle- 

obis absoluturma umravlesobam 

mainc „ocnebas” dauWira mxari, 

anu sazogadoebisTvis e. w. cocx- 

ebis kadrebi ufro mtkivneuli 

aRmoCnda, vidre _ omis dawyebaSi 

sakuTari saxelmwifos dadana- 

Sauleba. amas riT xsniT? 

_ es martivi sistemaa. 

_ kerZod? 

_ aSS-is arCevnebSi ruseTi Caeria? 

_ rogorc irkveva, diax, Caeria. 

_ breqsitSi ruseTi Caeria? 

_ aqac igive pasuxi maqvs _ 

irkveva, rom Caeria. 

_ kataloniis ambebsa da germaniis 

arCevnebSi Caeria? 

_ e. i., ruseTi msoflio monstria 

da Cven rogor ga- 

vumklavdebiT? 

_ diax, ruseTi yvelgan Caeria, 

magram iq institutebs demokratiuli 

gamocdilebis didi staJi 

aqvT. metic, sazogadoebac am procesebTan 

dakavSirebiT ufro ganaTlebulia 

da Sesabamisad, gadawyvetilebebsac 

swrafad iRebs. 

erT magaliTs moviyvan: germaniaSi, 

arCevnebis win, axalgazrda 

qali gamoiyvanes, romelic amtkicebda, 

rom emigrantebma gaaupatiures. 

germaniis xelisuflebas 36 

saaTi dasWirda saimisod daedgina, 

rom aravis gauupatiurebia da 

es ruseTidan Casuli germanuli 

warmoSobis qali iyo, romelmac 

dezinformacia gaavrcela. amaze 

pasuxi ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa saministrosac 

hqonda. mokled, Temam 

dRenaxevris ganmavlobaSi im- 

òcnebis~ gembanidan 

ìs, rac ruseTma 

2008 wels tankebiT 

ver gaakeTa, 2012-Si 

trolebiT SeZlo!~ 

SoTa malaSxia: 

`dRes 

saqarTveloSi 

sabWoTa 

`kagebes~ 

mmarTvelobis 

sistemaa!~ 

uSava, anu mTeli trolebis sistema 

muSaobda. 

_ ukacravad, es konkretuli 

magaliTi CvenTan ra kavSirSia? 

_ imis Tqma minda, rom 2012 wels 

Cveni pasuxi ver iqneboda, cocxebis 

kadrebi dadgmuliao. zogadad, 

yvelam, visac odnavi samedicino 

ganaTleba aqvs, icis, rom cocxiT 

adamianis gaupatiureba SeuZlebelia, 

magram ruseTma trolebis 

sistemiT mogvigo da yvelaferi es 

ivaniSvilis xeliT ganaxorciela. 

gavixsenoT Tundac rafaliancis 

ambavi _ arCevnebis wina dRes 

adamiani gamovida da xeli daado, 

bavSvi piradad RviniaSvilma da, 

saerTod, „nacionalurma moZraobam” 

moklao. es qali, wlebis ganmavlobaSi, 

kulturis ministris moadgile 

iyo da imis gamo, rac 2012 

wlis pirveli oqtombris arCevnebis 

win gaakeTa, bodiSi erTxel 

mainc xom unda moexada? 

_ qalbaton manana berikaSvils 

marto bodiSi ki ar unda moexa- 

da, aramed, „ocnebas” rafaliancis 

saqme unda gamoeZiebina da sa- 

zogadoebisTvis eTqva, realurad, 

ra moxda da vis politikur 

vnebebs Seewira aTi Tvis Cvili! 

_ ki batono... mokled, realobaa, 

rom trolebis sistemam maSinac 

imuSava da amitom yvelaferi 

es unda gaviTvaliswinoT. 

_ rogor unda gaviTvaliswi- 

noT? 

_ yvelafer amis sapsuxod, am 

saprezidento arCevnebis dros, 

gadioda Cemi gadaRebuli dokumenturi 

filmi, romelsac „trolebi” 

erqva. am filmSi yvelaferi 

is iyo axsnili, rac moxda... 

axla ZiriTad sakiTxs davubrundeT: 

dRes saerTaSoriso doneze 

ruseTs Zalian seriozuli problema 

aqvs. 

_ batono SoTa, vidre ruseTis 

saerTaSoriso problemebze isau- 

brebT, CagekiTxebiT: 2012 wlis 

pirveli oqtombris arCevnebis win 

rusuli „trolebis sistema” 

muSaobda, romelsac logikurad 

mcocavi okupacia moyva, amas am- 

bobT, ara? 

_ iciT, rogoraa? is, rac ruseTma 

2008 wels tankebiT ver gaakeTa, 

2012-Si trolebiT SeZlo. 

_ hoda, mcocavi okupacia xom 

rusuli trolebis gagrZeleba 

gamodis? 

_ okupacia msubuqi saqmea. 

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virTxebi garbian!~ 

_ rogor SeiZleba, okupacia 

msubuqi iyos? 

_ rusul trolebs is moyva, 

rasac axla getyviT, anu iciT, 

ruseTma es xelisufleba ratom 

moiyvana? 

_ ratom? 

_ sami pirovneba davasaxele _ e. 

w. prezidenti, parlamentis Tavmjdomare 

da yofili premieri, anu 

qveynis faqtobrivi mmarTveli. 

_ am sam pirovnebas raSi adan- 

aSaulebT? 

_ imisTvis, rom ruseTi „gaapravo”, 

erTaderTi gza arsebobs _ 

agvistos omis dawyeba saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebas daabralo! ai, amas 

„qarTuli ocneba” da, maT Soris, 

Cem mier dasaxelebuli sami pirovneba 

Tanmimdevrulad akeTebs! 

Tu ityvi da Sens qveyanas daabraleb, 

mZinare cxinvali dabombao, samarTlebrivad, 

es erTaderTi sa- 

Sualebaa, riTac ruseTi Seqmnili 

viTarebidan gamoZvreba! yvelafer 

amisTvis, anu ukrainaSi, saqarTveloSi, 

moldovasa Tu siriaSi Cadenili 

danaSaulisTvis ruseTi 

xarks dRes Tu ara xval da zeg 

aucileblad gadaixdis. 

_ batono SoTa, sanam ruseTi 

xarks gadaixdis, Cven xom SeiZle- 

ba, xelaxali okupaciis winaSe 

davdgeT? ager, ramdenime dRis 

win rusi okupantebi xurvaleTSi 

gamoCndnen. amasTan, tatunaSvili- 

oTxozorias tragedia kvlav gan- 

meorda da afxazeTSi kidev erTi 

qarTveli mokles. 

_ sazogadoeba ukve momwifda 

da trolebis aRar sjera! yvelafer 

amas ki saboloo wertili am 

prezidentis arCevis dros daesva! 

_ rogor? 

_ am arCevnebze ivaniSvilma da 

ruseTma yvela qvemexidan gaisroles, 

anu yvelaferi gaiSifra _ 

Zveli „kakebeSnikuri” meTodebi, 

„anonimSikebi”... is, rac ia kerzaias- 

Tan dakavSirebiT moxda, sacodaobaa 

_ skolaSi komisia anonimuri 

werilis safuZvelze gaagzavnes. 

dRes „Tibisi bankis” damfuZnebeli 

gviyveba, masze ra Zaladoba 

iyo. aqamde „Sav salaroze” marto 

oquaSvili laparakobda, axla ki 

mTeli biznesi ukve amaze laparakobs. 

erTi sityviT, „pandoras yu- 

Ti” gaixsna. amitom yvelaze didi 

dro, roca es xelisufleba unda 

Seicvalos, 2020 welia, Tumca sasurvelia, 

rom es ufro adre moxdes! 

is, rom „ocnebam” saprezidento 

arCevnebis dros yvela qvemexidan 

gaisrola, erTi detaliTac Cans _ 

gembans ukve virTxebi toveben! 

_ „virTxebis datoveba” xmama- 

Ral naTqvamad meCveneba, radgan 

igive daviT maRraZe, romelic 

ivaniSvilis sayvareli poetia da 

amis Sesaxeb yofil premiers Ta- 

vad aqvs naTqvami, ar mgonia, dam- 

oukideblad moqmedebdes. diax, 

arsebobs legitimuri eWvi, rom 

poetis gaopozicionereba mil- 

iarderis morigi proeqtia. 

_ diax, diax. amasTan dakavSirebiT 

sulxan-sabas erT igavs gagaxsenebT: 

aznauri midis da xorcis 

gamyidvels eubneba, _ xorci momyideo. 

_ sisxliani xorci Sen rogor 

gagatano, wadi, moaxle gamoagzavne 

da mas gamovatano, _ miugebs 

xorcis gamyidveli. aznauri dainteresdeba, 

mis moaxles rogor icnobs. 

xorcis gamyidveli daakvalianebs, 

_ Seni ulvaSi gamoataneo. 

marTlac, moaxle miva, ulvaSs miscems 

da elodeba, xorcs rodis 

auwonian. xorcis gamyidveli gaicinebs 

da etyvis, Seni batoni aq 

myavda, xorci mas ar miveci da axla 

ulvaSis sanacvlod xorcs 

rogor gagatano. 

_ maRraZis opoziciaSi gada- 

bargebasTan es igavi ra kavSirSia? 

_ saprezidento arCevnebis 

dros erTad rom iyvnen, yofa etiraT 

da axla, cal-calke rom aRmoCndebian, 

warmoidgineT, rogor 

iqnebian. hoda, maRraZe visi marTulic 

unda, imisi iyos! mTavaria, 

rom sistema daiSala! 

_ „ocnebis” sistemis daSla 

rusul okupacias SeaCerebs? 

_ Cveni mizani is aris, rom ivniSvilis 

xelisufleba gamoicvalos! 

ai, maSin gaxdeba saqarTvelo saer- 

TaSoriso doneze moTamaSe! 

ruseTma ivaniSvilis xeliT is gagvikeTa, 

rom saerTaSoriso asparezidan 

gamogvagdo. 

_ ivaniSvilis xeliT rogor 

gamogvagdo? 

_ „qarTuli ocnebis” pozicia 

aseTia: ruseTsa da dasavleTs 

Soris Cven dapirispirebis obieqti 

ar unda viyoTo. arada, mTeli 

dasavleTi ruseTs upirispirdeba. 

Cven ki TamaSidan gamovvardiT, anu 

axla, roca ruseTs sanqciebs adeben, 

iq weria ukraina, siriac, magram 

saqarTvelo aRar weria. xelisuflebis 

Secvlis Semdeg ki 

yvela saerTaSoriso berkets gamoviyenebT 

da isev saerTaSoriso 

koniunqturaSi movxvdebiT! Sesabamisad, 

es saerTaSoriso koniunqtura 

ruseTs iZulebuls gaxdis, 

rom Sedegi daidos. 

_ 2020 wlis Semodgomamde, anu 

im dromde, roca wesiT, arCevnebi 

unda Catardes, lamis weliwad- 

naxevaria. 

_ 2020 weli is maqsimumia, roca 

es xelisufleba Seicvleba. 

_ mesmis, magram dRevandeli 

monacemebiT vadamdeli arCevnebis 

konturebi ar Cans. Sesabamis- 

ad, 2020 wlamde rusebi SesaZloa, 

Tbiliss moadgnen da es okupacia 

`stoltenbergi dRes 

ambobs, Tavis droze, 

Secdoma davuSvi, 

saqarTvelos da 

ukrainas mapi rom 

ar miveciTo. mokled, 

dasavleTma 

yvelaferi ver 

gaiTvaliswina da 

ukrainis procesebi 

miiRo~ 

rogor SevaCeroT, Tqveni recep- 

ti rogoria? 

_ cifrebs getyviT, Tu ra xdeba: 

gatacebebi ornaxevar-samjer 

gaizarda. mkvlelobebi saerTod 

ar arsebobda, axla ki esec gazrdilia 

da iciT, ratom? 

_ ratom? 

_ adre iqaurobas sodi Tu kudi 

akontrolebda da imas, vinc Cvens 

moqalaqes rames dauSavebda, sa- 

Tanadod sjida. dRes ki biWebi, 

romlebic maSin saokupacio xazs 

TavganwirviT icavdnen, „ocnebas” 

an cixeSi hyavs, an saqarTvelodan 

gaqceulebi arian. 

mokled, yvelaferi Tvisobrivad 

unda Seicvalos da es is viTareba 

araa, roca cota xelisufleba 

CaiCoCebs da cota _ opozicia. 

yvelaferi axal doneze unda gadaviyvanoT 

da is kursi aRvadginoT 

da gavagrZeloT, romelic sagareo 

politikaSi 2012 wlamde gvqonda. 

sxvaTa Soris, dRes am kursis 

gagrZelebis gacilebiT meti Sansia, 

radgan ukrainas vebmiT da saerTaSoriso 

struqturebic Cvenken 

arian! 

_ amas ra sjobia, Tu msoflio, 

marTlac, gverdiT gvidgas, magram 

ambobT, rom „ocnebas” ruseTi 

„kriSavs”. hoda, am kozirs kremli 

daTmobs? 

_ Tu 2008 wels ruseTs winaaRmdegoba 

martom gavuwieT, axla, 

2019-Si, roca evropa, ukraina, aSS 

da sxva qveynebi CvenTan arian, 

winaaRmdegobis gawevas ratom ver 

movaxerxebT? 

_ movaxerxebT? 

_ ra Tqma unda. 

_ ise, me Tu mkiTxavT, marto 

gare megobrebis imedze ar unda 

viyoT da Sida opoziciac cota 

unda gaaqtiurdes, minimum, saer- 

TaSoriso TanamegobrobasTan 

ufro mWidro komunikacia unda 

hqondes. ar meTanxmebiT? 


Cven erTi mimarTulebiT vsaubrobT, 

Tumca sxva mimarTulebebiTac 

sruli katastrofaa. ise, 

es erTi mimarTuleba yvelaze mniSvnelovania, 

radgan xalxi uxelfasobasac 

moiTmens da usamsaxurobasac, 

magram moqalaqeebisTvis 

mTavari patriotizmia. xalxs imedi 

rom hqondes, es an romelime 

sxva xelisufleba misi ZiriTadi 

moTxovnis, anu teritoriuli mTlianobis 

aRdgenis mimarTulebiT 

nabijebs gadadgams, raRacebs moi- 

Tmens, magram am xelisuflebas 

aRarafers mouTmens imitom, rom 

uamravi problemaa. yvelafers Tavi 

rom davaneboT, amdeni xania, ori 

Svilmkvdari mama, praqtikulad, 

`karasinis uwyebis stafi, albaT, xuTi-eqvsi 

kacisgan Sedgeba. karasinis ukan ki ruseTis mTeli 

sagareo saqmeTa saministro dgas da es 

mocemuloba saqarTvelosTvis xom ukve 

wamgebiania?! rac Seexeba formats, esec 

sazizRrobaa. CemTvis Tavidanve cnobili iyo, axla 

ki Cveulebrivi obivatelic xvdeba, rom "qarTuli 

ocneba" ruseTTan daTmobis politikas atarebs~ 

quCaSi gaagdes da ar pasuxoben! 

_ usamarTlobis damkvidreba 

da korufciac rusuli narativi 

xom ar aris? 

_ diax! es sabWoTa „kagebes” 

mmarTvelobis sistemaa! komunistebis 

dros „anonimSCiki” cudi 

movlena iyo. axla, rogorc weRan 

aRvniSne, „anonimSCikma” dawera 

werili ganaTlebis ministris saxelze, 

ris safuZvelzec skolis 

direqtori mokles! e. i. mTeli saministro 

„anonimSCikad” iqca! ase- 

Ti raRac komunistebis drosac ki 

ar momxdara! es xelisufleba yvelaze 

cudi periodis yvelaze sazizRar 

meTodebs iyenebs! 

_ oriod sityviT karasinis 

muqarasac SevexoT, romelmac 

pirdapir gviTxra, Tu natosken 

siaruls gaagrZelebT, probleme- 

bi SegeqmnebaTo. karasinis am Ria 

muqaraze Cvens xelisuflebas 

reaqcia, principSi, ar hqonia. 

_ modiT, pirvel rigSi, karasini-abaSiZis 

formatze vTqvaT: roca 

konfliqtebis kuTxiT saerTa- 

Soriso formati arsebobs, sadac 

aSS, evropa da, mokled, yvela Car- 

Tulia da am dros formats aknineb 

da ruseTTan pirdapir molaparakebaze 

gadixar, es ras niSnavs? davuSvaT, 

abaSiZe super diplomatia, 

magram am karasinTan molaparakebis 

formatSi saqarTvelo mainc 

damcirebulia. 

_ ratom? 

_ karasinis uwyebis stafi, albaT, 

xuTi-eqvsi kacisgan Sedgeba. 

karasinis ukan ki ruseTis mTeli 

sagareo saqmeTa saministro dgas 

da es mocemuloba saqarTvelosTvis 

xom ukve wamgebiania?! 

rac Seexeba formats, esec 

sazizRrobaa. CemTvis Tavidanve 

cnobili iyo, axla ki Cveulebrivi 

obivatelic xvdeba, rom „qarTuli 

ocneba” ruseTTan daTmobis politikas 

atarebs. 

yvelafer aqedan gamomdinare, 

Cven, ukrainam da moldovam saer- 

TaSoriso asparezze konsolidebulad 

unda vimoqmedoT. 

_ saerTaSoriso asparezi gas- 

agebia, magram weRandeli Tqmisa 

ar iyos, opozicias konsolidire- 

ba qveynis SigniTac ar awyenda, 

miT umetes, im fonze, roca xe- 

lisufleba saarCevno sistemis 

Secvlas, rogorc Cans, ar apirebs. 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, irakli kobax- 

iZem ganacxada, opoziciam imis 

Sansi, rom 2020 wlis arCevnebze 

maJoritaruli sistema gauqmebu- 

liyo, xelidan gauSvao. 

_ opoziciam konsolidacia am 

saprezidento arCevnebze moaxerxa, 

rac Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo. 

_ am konsolidaciis Sedegi, 

rogorc ityvian, ar daido. 

_ rogor ar daido. 

_ prezidenti opoziciis ki ara, 

xelisuflebisgan mxardaWerili 

kandidati gaxda da esaa Sedegi? 

_ yvelam _ evrokavSirma, natom, 

aSS-m icis, Tu rogor gaxda salome 

zurabiSvili prezidenti. metic, 

saerTaSoriso organizaciebi da 

damkvirveblebi afiqsireben, rom 

aseTi cudi arCevnebi saqarTvelo- 

Si arasodes Catarebula da arc amdeni 

mosyidva yofila. aqedan gamomdinare, 

yvelafer amis ganmeorebis 

saSualebas „ocnebas” aRaravin 

miscems _ arc qarTuli sazogadoeba 

da arc _ saerTaSoriso! amitomac 

vambob, CaZiruli gembanidan 

virTxebi garbian-meTqi. 

_ imedovnebT, rom „ocnebis” 

gajiutebis miuxedavad, vadamde- 

li arCevnebi mainc dainiSneba? 

_ Tu vadamdel arCevnebs ar 

daniSnavs, maSin 2020 wlisTvis „ocneba” 

uaresad dalpeba. saarCevno 

sistemis arSecvla ki imas niSnavs, 

rom „ocneba” qarTveli amomrCevlis 

nebis sawinaRmdegod midis. 

Sesabamisad, is saarCevno sistema, 

romliTac momaval arCevnebs Caatareben, 

maT sabolood daasamarebs! 

sxvaTa Soris, am saarCevno sistemiT 

Cven arCevnebi 2012 wels wavageT 

da es maSin, roca qveyanaSi aRmSenebloba 

midioda. amaT xelSi ki 

yvelaferi fuWdeba: struqturebi 

CamoSlilia, saxelmwifoebrioba, 

praqtikulad, wagvarTves da am 

fonze arsebuli saarCevno sistema 

„ocnebis” sawinaaRmdegod imuSavebs! 

_ mokled, iseTi piri uCans, 

rom 2020 wlamde okupacia gaZl- 

ierdeba da Cven, xalxma, omis gana- 

xlebis SiSiT unda vicxovroT? 

_ ruseTs omis ganaxlebis Sesa- 

Zlebloba ar aqvs. 

_ darwmunebuli xarT? 

_ jer erTi, ruseTi oms imitom 

ar ganaaxlebs, rom aq Tavisi xelisufleba 

hyavs da gamocvlas ra 

azri aqvs? 

meorec, ruseTs problemebi 

SigniT aqvs _ magaliTad, internetis 

gaTiSvas apirebs, sapensio reformas, 

amasobaSi oTxi gubernatoris 

arCevnebi waago, putinis 

finansebis seriozuli Seswavlebi 

daiwyes da a. S. amas garda, ruseTs 

problemebi ukrainaSic aqvs, siriasa 

da saqarTveloSic. amitom fizikurad 

veRar SeZlebs, rom yvelaferi 

es gaakontrolos. 

amasobaSi, regionSi saqarTvelo 

yvelaze mniSvnelovani qveyana xdeba. 

_ es rogor? 

_ dasavleTTan mimarTebiT 

iranisa da TurqeTis problemaa. 

erTaderT wamyvan qveynad saqarTvelo 

rCeba da amis Sinagani moTxovna 

qarTvelebs yovelTvs gvqonda. 

_ e. i., imis Tqma gindaT, rom 

dro da saerTaSoriso viTareba 

Cven sasargeblod muSaobs, ara? 

_ diax, calsaxad asea. sazogadoebam 

Tvalebi farTod gaaxila. 

sxvaTa Soris, filmi „trolebi” 

aseTi igaviT davasrule: sulxansaba 

ufliswuls rom locavs, eubneba: 

viris goneba mogeces, radgan 

viri im adgilas, sadac erTxel talaxSi 

gaiara, iq talaxic rom ar 

iyos, meored aRar gaivliso. Cven, 

qarTvelebs, viris gonebaze meti 

goneba gvaqvs, rom erTxel Cavardnil 

talaxSi meored da mesamedac 

ar CavvardeT. amitom yvelaferi 

Cven sasargeblod gadawydeba 

da im Sedegs miviRebT, rasac vimsaxurebT! 

_ RmerTmac gisminoT da msof- 

lio politikis mamebmac, batono 

SoTa! 

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qeTevan enuqiZis gverdi 


2015 wels municipaluri gan- 

viTarebis fondma gamoacxada 

DEP-tenderi, romelic iTvaliswinebda 

msoflio bankis proeqtis 

farglebSi safaris monastramde 

misasvleli gzis 7,2-kilometriani 

monakveTis reabili- 

tacias, risTvisac 3 milion larze 

meti gamoiyo. garda amisa, ig- 

egmeboda taZris reabilitaciac. 

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turistebsa da momlocvelebs 

safaris samonastro kompleqsamde 

misvla dRemde erTaderTi, mwyobridan 

gamosuli gziT uwevdaT. 

safaris gzis aRdgeniTi samuSaoebi 

2016 wels unda dawyebuliyo. 

msoflio bankis mesame proeqtis 

mixedviT, samcxe-javaxeTisa 

da mcxeTa-mTianeTis regionebisTvis 

60 milioni dolaria gaTvaliswinebuli. 

mis farglebSi mesxeTSi, turistuli 

infrastruqturis ganvi- 

Tarebis kuTxiT, 14 proeqti ganxorcieldeba. 

samuSaoebi, romelic 

2015 wels daiwyo, 2020 wels 

dasruldeba. 

safaris gzis samuSaoebis xangrZlivoba 

Seadgenda 12 (Tormeti) 

Tves samuSaoebis dawyebidan. tenderSi 

monawileobdnen kompaniebi: 

1. ss „kavkasavtomagistrali“; 

2. Sps „arali“; 

3. Sps „cekuri“; 

4. Sps „yarabaRi-er“; 

5. Sps „aab proeqti saqarTvelos 

filiali“; 

6. VAHOSTAV-SK a.s.-s filiali; 

7. Sps „sagzao samSeneblo sammarTvelo 

#1. 

gamarjvebuli kompania _ Sps 

„sagzao samSeneblo sammarTvelo 

#1“ (3,198,099.81 lari). 

kontraqtis zogadi pirobebis 

47.1 punqtis mixedviT, mTeli 

obieqtis samuSaoebis dasrulebis 

vadis gadacilebis jarima Seadgenda 

kontraqtis saboloo fasis 

0,1%-s TiToeul gadacilebul 

dReze. mTeli obieqtis samuSaoebis 

vadagadacilebis jarimis maqsimaluri 

Tanxa Seadgens kontraqtis 

saboloo fasis 10%-s. 

dReis mdgomareobiT, Sesyidvas 

aqvs statusi „mimdinare xelSekruleba“ 

da miTiTebulia vadagadacileba 

743 dRe. 

informacia gadaxdis Sesaxeb 

dafiqsirebuli ar aris. 

magram es ar gaxlavT erTaderTi 

SemTxveva municipaluri ganviTarebis 

fondis SesyidvebSi da 

aucileblad imsaxurebs detalur 

Seswavlas. 

amjerad, mxolod am kompaniis 

SesyidvebiT SemovifarglebiT. 

dakvirvebisTvis gTavazobT 

kidev erT magaliTs: 

amjerad evropis bankis dafinansebiT 

daiwyo adigenis municipalitetis 

zanavi-gomaros gzis 

reabilitacia. proeqti iTvaliswinebda 

zanavi-gomaros gzis reabilitacias. 

gzis sigrZe 1 956 m.-ia. dagegmili 

iyo orfeniani a/betonis 

(5+4) safris, savali nawilis (sigane 

5 m.), mierTebebisa da wyalamridi 

milebis mowyoba. 

tenderSi monawile kompaniebia: 


2. ind/mewarme „daviT siWinava“; 


#1“. 

gaimarjva am ukanasknelma 

(682,000.00 lari). 

tenderi gamocxadda 2016 wlis 

agvistoSi, xolo imave wlis noemberSi 

xelSekrulebaSi Sevida cvlileba 

da Tanxa gaizarda 698 473 

laramde. 

koreqtirebul xarjTaRricxvaSi 

Seicvala fasebi sabazro 

Rirebulebis cvlilebebis Sesabamisad. 

kompanias daekisra valdebuleba, 

365 dRis ganmavlobaSi uzrunveleyo 

dafiqsirebuli defeqtebis 

aRmofxvra. 

es proeqti dasrulda da dafiqsirebulia 

miReba-Cabarebis aqtic. 

TianeTis municipalitetSi ar- 

Cilis monasterTan da Jebotis amaRlebis 

kompleqsTan misasvleli 

gzebis reabilitaciis proeqti 

iTvaliswinebda Tbilisi-TianeTis 

gzidan arCilis monastramde misasvleli 

(sigrZiT 6 323 m.) da Jebotis 

amaRlebis kompleqsTan misasvleli 

gzebis (sigrZiT 1 285 m.) 

gzebis moasfaltebas, liTonis 

milebis, ezoSi Sesasvlelebisa da 

avto parkingis mowyobas. 

samuSaoebis xangrZlivobad 

safaris monasteri 

gansazRvruli iyo 10 (aTi) Tve samuSaoebis 

dawyebidan. 

tenderSi monawileobdnen: 

1. Sps „enko“; 

2. ss „kavkasavtomagistrali“; 

3. Sps „cekuri“; 

4. Sps „dagi“; 

5. ucxouri sawarmos filiali 

„az-inSaat jorjia“; 

6. Sps „kompania bleq si grupi“; 


#1“; 

8. Sps „qare iafi mimarliq in- 

SaaT sanai ve TijareTis“ filiali 

saqarTveloSi. 

gaimarjva Sps „sagzao samSeneblo 

sammarTvelo #1“-ma, 3,035,000 

lariT. 

am proeqtSi fiqsirdeba vadagadacileba 

594 dRe. 

Sesyidvebis saagentos informaciiT, 

3 192 283 laridan kompanias 

Caricxuli aqvs 1 260 122 

lari (39%). 

es garemoeba erTgvarad xsnis 

muSaobis Seferxebis safuZvels, 

Tumca araferi viciT Tavad 

Seferxebis mizezze. 

2016 wels kompanias kidev erTi 

saintereso xelSekruleba gauformda: 

qalaq gorSi rkinigzis sadguris 

dasaxlebaSi arsebuli qu- 

Cebisa (kecxovelisa da gorijvris 

quCebi) da saniaRvre sistemis mowyoba-reabilitacia. 

tenderSi monawileobdnen: 


2. e/s „java da gzebi da keTilmowyoba“; 



#1“ (1,654,000.00 lari). 

aqac fiqsirdeba vadagadacileba 

653 dRe da aseve fasis cvlileba. 

nacvlad 1 654 000 larisa, 

xelSekrulebaSi fiqsirdeba 1 653 

270 lari. 

proeqti daiwyo 2016 wlis agvistoSi, 

unda dasrulebuliyo 

2017 wlis ivnisSi. 

dRevandeli mdgomareobiT 

Caricxuli aqvs 1 128 630 lari 

(68%). 

aspinZis municipalitetis sof. 

miraSxanSi misasvleli gzis reabilitaciisTvis 

gamocxadebul 

tenderSi, romelic iTvaliswinebda 

sof. miraSxanSi misasvleli 

3685 m-iani gzis keTilmowyobas, 6 

kompania monawileobda: 



#1“ 916,364.48 lari; 

3. Sps „qrosfointi“; 

4. Sps „orbita“; 

5. Sps „astoria“; 

6. Sps „jeo servisi“. 

samuSaoebis xangrZlivoba iyo 

4 (oTxi) Tve dawyebidan. 

proeqti daiwyo 2017 wlis dekemberSi 

da mis dasrulebamde 

sami Tvea darCenili. 

TianeTis municipalitetSi 

sof. nadokra-xevsurTsoflis 

gzis reabilitaciisTvis gamocxadebul 

tenderSi, romelic Tiane- 

Tis municipalitetSi, Tbilisidan 

75 km. manZilze iTvaliswinebs nadokra-xevsurTsoflis 

(sigrZiT 7 

356 m.) gzis moasfaltebas, liTonisa 

da rk/betonis milebis, ezo- 

Si Sesasvlelebis, mierTebebis 

mowyobasa da arsebuli xidis SekeTebas, 

4 kompania monawileobda: 

dausrulebeli tenderebi 


2. e/s „jiarji“ da Sps „kavkasus 

roud projeqti“; 



#1“ (3,585,834.97 lari). 

proeqtis vada jer ar amowurula. 

dasruleblamde 37 dRea 

darCenili da Caricxulia 3 019 

880 lari (84%). ar dasrulebula 

saavtomobilo gzebis mier gamocxadebuli 

am kategoriis tenderebic. 

Sidasaxelmwifoebrivi gzis 

agara-yornisi-cxinvalis km1-km4; 

km9-km16 monakveTi (5,193,139 lari); 

vadagadacileba _ 1117 dRe; 

zahesi-mcxeTa-kavTisxevi-goriskra-qareli-osiauris 

(S-131); saavtomobilo 

gzis winarexi-qvaTaxevis 

km1-km4.5 monakveTis sareabilitacio 

samuSaoebi (3,052,168 lari); 

Tbilisi (pantiani)-manglisis 

saavtomobilo gzis km23-km32 sareabilitacio 

samuSaoebi (6,995,801 

lari). 

am SesyidvebSi Zalian bevri ram 

aris sayuradRebo, miT umetes, Tu 

gaviTvaliswinebT, rom aseTi SemTxvevebi 

intensiurad fiqsirdeba 

swored donorebis fuliT dafinansebul 

proeqtebSi. 

Sps „sagzao samSeneblo sammar- 

Tvelo #1-is“ mflobelebi arian: 

SoTa abulaZe (Sps „dgvrisi“, 

Sps Georgian Fish); 

nugzar abalaki (rk „qarTuli 

naturaluri produqti“, q. goris 

municipalitetis kulturisa da 

dasvenebis parki „axalbaRi“, Sps 

„jbp“, Sps „ei vi si“, Sps „sagzao 

samSeneblo sammarTvelo“ #2); 

nukri abalaki (Sps „rezidensi“, 

Sps „jbp“, Sps „ei vi si“, Sps „paradais 

grup“, Sps „sagzao samSeneblo 

sammarTvelo #2“, (Sps „dgvrisi“, 

Sps „Georgian Fish“). 

nugzar da nukri abalakebi 

„qarTuli ocnebis“ Semomwirvelebi 

arian 60 000-60 000 lariT, 

xolo SoTa abulaZem 60 000 lari 

Seswira „erTian nacionalur 

moZraobas“ 2012 wels. 

kompanias 120-ze meti tenderi 

aqvs mogebuli. 

mxolod 2018 wlis monacemebis 

analiziT, mas miRebuli aqvs 29 

850 356 lari. 20 Sesyidvidan 12 _ 

goris municipalitetSi. sayuradReboa, 

rom damfuZneblebi 

gorelebi arian da aq gansakuTrebiT 

myari poziciebi aqvT. mxolod 

or tenderSi hyavT konkurenti, 

danarCen SemTxvevaSi marto monawileoben. 

mxolod erTxel ufiqsirdebaT 

sawyisi fasis dakleba, 

rasac ver vityviT sxva proeqtebze. 

vimeoreb: aq saubaria mxolod 

2018 wlis Sesyidvebze. 

kompanias miRebuli aqvs 54 gamartivebuli 

Sesyidva. 

misi Semsyidvelebi, ZiriTadad, 

arian: 

Sps „saqarTvelos gaerTianebuli 

wyalmomaragebis kompania“; 

Sps „goris keTilmowyobis samsaxuri“; 

saqarTvelos regionuli ganvi- 

Tarebisa da infrastruqturis 

saministros saqarTvelos saavtomobilo 

gzebis departamenti; 

goris municipaliteti; 

kaspisa da xaSuris municipalitetebi; 

Sps „saxelmwifo samSeneblo 

kompania“. 

kompaniis mier uxarisxod Sesrulebuli 

bevri samuSaos Sesaxeb 

Sida qarTlis sainformacio 

centrma araerTi masala moamzada. 

2016 wels q. gorSi cxinvalis 

gzatkecilze mdebare miwis nakveTze 

aSenebul savaWro daniSnulebis 

obieqtze (s/k 66.45.07.178) sanebarTvo 

pirobebis darRvevis an/ 

da Seusruleblobis gamo „sagzao 

samSeneblo sammarTvelo #1 dajarimda 

1000 (aTasi) laris odenobiT. 

aseve xSirad saubroben kompaniis 

damfuZneblebis kavSirze goris 

maJoritar ioseb makraxiZesTan. 

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ezo SatakiSvili 

597 94 42 50 

ager ukve meramdene welia, rac 

ivaniSvili glejs, Txris da saxlSi Tavisi ezos dasamSveneblad 

miaTrevs xeebs. yvelaferi ase xdeba, viRac, vis enaze- 

dac axia, rom moisaqmos biZinas zebram, biZinas miutans enas, 

rom ama da am sofelSi dgas cadaziduli, as da oraswlovani 

esa da es xe. biZina wava da im xes Semouvlis zustad ise, ro- 

gorc abduSahili uvlida monasters. Semouvlis, Caexuteba, 

waecekveba, waeTomareba da gamoutans ganaCens, _ esa da es xe 

ama da am soflidan unda gadairgos mis ezoSi! moTxrian am 

xes, moWrian miwas da gauyeneben gzas. gzas, romelsac am xi- 

sTvis daageben _ xmeleTze, zRvaze... 

aCis faqtori, 

aRa-mahmad- 

biZina da 

samefo 

`kuSetkis~ 

TamaSebi 

gaitacebs patarZalviT am gigantur 

xeebs da ver atarebs soflebis 

galeul SukebSi, ver atarebs 

da afarToebs am gzebs, monRolTa 

urdoebiviT Tqoravs 

yvelafers, rac gzad xvdeba, kafavs 

yvelafers, rac gzad eRobeba, 

kafavs qarsacavebs, erTi xis 

gadatanas ewireba aTasobiT xe. 

Cexs daundoblad, daunaneblad. 

ager, axla, „rusTavi 2-is” 

eTerSi vixileT, im kvlevis Sedegebi, 

romelic aWaris soflis 

meurneobis saministrom Caatara. 

ganadgurebulia qarsacavebi, 

romlis aRdgenas unda aTeuli 

weli!!! siuJetSi pirdapir iTqva, 

rom sofel kvirikeSi miliarderis 

mier dazianebuli adgilis 

reabilitacia-aRdgenas Svidi 

weli da 178, 000 lari sWirdeba. 

xucubanSi gaCexil evkaliptebsa 

da arasworad gadabelil naZvebis 

111 000 lari sWirdeba. 

daskvnaSi ki weren, 7 weli sWirdebao, 

magram vinmes jera, rom 

7 weliwadSi iq xeebi imxelebi gaxdeba, 

ramxelebic iyo da gakafa 

murvan-biZinam Tu aRa-mahmad-bi- 

Zinam? an imisi gjeraT vinmes, 

rom xeglejia dadebs mis mier 

aoxrebuli qarsacavebis sareabilitacio 

Tanxebs? 

aqamde gvegona, rom marto 

xeebi ewireboda aRa-mahmad-bi- 

Zinas am axirebas _ xeebis glejagadaTrevas. 

axla ki, mkvlelobidan 

aTi Tvis Semdeg, gairkva, 

rom swored am xeebis gadaTrevas 

emsxverpla muxaestates policiis 

ufrosi, buta anTaZe. sami 

bavSvi daoblda marto imitom, 

rom aRa-mahmad-biZinas mier Zirfesvianad 

moglejili xe gadahqondaT, 

filtvebis anTebiani 

policieli SuaRamisas zeze wamoagdes 

da im xis gacileba aiZules. 

marto buta anTaZe ki ara, 

im SuaRamisas yvela policieli 

quCaSi gamorekes, rom megalomaniakis 

xis gasatareblad gza 

gadaeketaT. 

im xis gasatareblad gza gadaiketa, 

gzis gadaketviT gacofebulma 

vinme takiZem ki zurgSi dana 

Cascxo policiels da mokla. 

saqmis masalebSi naxsenebic 

araa arc ivaniSvili da arc misi 

xe. unamusod weren, rom mkvleloba 

moxda maSin, roca aragabarituli 

tvirTi gadahqondaT. 

axlaRa irkveva, rom es aragabarituli 

tvirTi swored aRamahmad-biZinas 

aragabarituli 

axireba _ giganturi xe iyo! 

mokled, ivaniSvilis aragabaritul 

axirebas ewireba buneba: 

xeebi, qarsacavebi, gzebi, miwebi, 

ewirebian adamianebi. Cven ki aragabarituli 

moTminebiT, ager 

ukve, meramdene welia, vuyurebT 

mis am axirebas. jer gavcofdiT, 

avCxubdiT, avyayandiT. roca veraferi 

gavawyveT, dacinvaze gadavediT, 

ironias cinizmi mivaSveleT, 

magram arc aman gaWra. is 

Cvens reaqciebs ise iTvaliswinebs, 

rogorc qaravani ZaRlis 

yefas. metic, ZaRladac ar gvagdebs 

da Tavis dilixors isworebs. 

ai, risi xoSic hqonda travmirebul 

warsulSi, imas isworebs 

da sul im cal gamoxeul „naskze” 

vkidivarT, romelic ecva 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 


manam, vidre milionebs da Semdeg 

miliardebs moixveWda. 

ratomac ar vekidebiT sunian 

da gamoxeul naskze, roca gasdis? 

ivaniSvili im uzneo bal- 

RiviTaa, rom tiroda da hkiTxes, 

_ ratom tirixaro? _ gamdis 

da vtirivaro. gasdis da ratom 

ar „itirebs”? gasdis da ratom 

ar gvitirebs yofas? 

xeebsac daglejs, skversac 

agvaxevs larad da vinc rodis 

moundeba, Tavzec dagvasvams. ar 

miTxraT axla, ras ambobo da ar 

iuaroT. ase ar wamoasva Tavze 

Tbiliss jer narmania, mere 

kalaZe da mTel saqarTvelos _ 

jer margvelaSvili da mere zurabiSvili? 

ar gauvida? ar Seirgo 

Tavisi bostnis stafilosaviT? 

mosvlis dRidan gviTxra, _ 

kriminali moimatebs da gagebiT 

moekideTo. mas Semdeg ager meSvide 

welia da ra, ar vekidebiT 

gagebiT? ar miveCvieT kriminalis 

matebas? ar mivaCvieT yuri 

qurdobas, Zarcvas, glejas da 

mkvlelobebs? ar gavisqeleT 

kani? dedis rZesaviT ar virgebT 

gatexil manqanebs, gaZarcvul 

saxlebs, dRisiT-mzisiT Caxocil 

biWebs? ho, ra, is faqizi da 

mgrZnobiare kani, miSas dros 

rom gvqonda, ar gavisqeleT saqonlis 

tyaviviT? 

vazagaSvili rom specoperaciis 

dros mokla policiam, ramdeni 

vici, ise amoiputa boqveni, 

genitaliebic amoayola da maT 

gareSe darCa. iseTi mgrZnobiareebi 

iyvnen da axla, amdeni xocva-Jletisas 

ki dganan sali 

kldeebiviT. biZinam gaamamaca es 

mgrZnobiare xalxi. TavdaWera 

aswavla. Rirseba da gageba. 

ho, uSiSari gaxda sazogadoeba, 

uSiSari, viTarca uxorco. 

aRarafris SiSi aqvT, Tavisuflad 

sunTqaven. biznesmenic da ubizneso 

Ratrakunac. ager, didi 

poeti _ arCil TalakvaZe gagviqurdes. 

am qurdobaSi sami aspeqti 

iyo mniSvnelovani: pirveli 

Tavad faqti, meore is, rom es 

axalgazrda kaci fuls seifSi 

inaxavs da mesame _ mezoblis komentari. 

jamSi, es SemTxveva da es 

yvelaferi uzustesad asaxavs 

imas, ra xelisuflebac hyavs 

qveyanas! xelisufleba romelmac 

kriminalSi CaxarSa qveyana! sadac 

qurdi ise Tavxeddeba, rom zinasa 

da qsenias ki ara, parlamentarsac 

ki qurdavs, ise aqvs awyvetili! 

aki, brZana kidec alu- 

Canatken aCikos mezoblobiT mokekluce 

bednierma mezobelma: 

sul vfiqrobdi, rom „aCis faqtori” 

raRac Semakavebeli iyo CvenTviso. 

ho, ra iyo, am qalbatons zustad 

ise eimedeboda aCis faqtori, 

rogorc cxonebul lado 

asaTians verikosa da natos eSxis 

faqtori. axla es mezobeli 

cota SeSinebulia. Zalian ki ara, 

cota. odnav, ai, sul odnav... 

imazed aRarafers mogaxsenebT, 

sruliad axalgazrda, 1983 

wels dabadebuli kaci, Tan poeti, 

fuls pensioneriviT seifSi 

rom inaxavs. bankSi ki ar udevs, 

baraTze ki ar aqvs, seifSi udevs. 

madloba RmerTs, karapeta 

dambaRoviviT da mikirtum gaspariCiviT 

mTlad muTaqebSi rom 

ar inaxavs da im muTaqebs im alu- 

Cis ZirSi ar marxavs, qe rom amaswinebze 

Svili gaaCenina! ai, es 

SemTxveva mainc ar cxadyofs, 

rogor arian SesabamisobaSi 

drosTan da civilizaciasTan 

„qocebi”? Se, aluCaZaRlo, romeli 

saukunea, seifSi fuls vinRa 

inaxavs? civilizaciam, ra, ver 

gataka „karta”? 

aluCanatkens seifi aqvs. mere 

ra, rom patara. ai, bagrationebs 

samefo taxti ar aqvT da erT 

adgils aTamaSeben. taxti ki ara, 

erTi „kuSetkac” ar aqvT da ukve 

cxeli tafebiT dasdeven erTmaneTs. 

bagration muxranelebs 

uteven zaqiWamias Camomavlebi, 

gruzinskebi, ai, dRemde rom ver 

Seelivnen am gruzinskobas _ imis 

mier Tavsmoxveul gvars, visac 

ubrZolvelad dauTmes qveyana, 

vinc taxtamogdebuli datova 

isini. 

ki, maSin dro iyo murtali, 

Zala aRmarTs xnavda da amao 

aRmoCnda yvelas Tavganwirva _ 

1832 wels SeTqmuli mamuliSvilebisac 

da manamde darejan 

deodoflisac, mariam dedoflisac, 

romlebic, sxvaTa Soris, 

sulac ar iyvnen bagrationebi! 

rusTmoZule darejan dedofali 

dadiani iyo, uxerxemlo zaqiWamia 

giorgis Tanamecxedre mamaci 

dedofali mariami ki, vinc Sig 

putinSi gauyara xanjali lazarevs, 

bagrationi ki ara, ciciSvili 

iyo! 

albaT, es antirusi dedoflebi 

samareebSi rogor borgaven, 

uyureben ra am „kuSetkis” TamaSebs! 

jer iyo da putinis „favoritka” 

salome zurabiSvilma 

swored maT _ erekles sasaxleSi 

ikisra inauguracia, axla kidev 

eseni xtunaoben samefo „kuSetkaze”! 

gruzinskebi daviT bagrations 

ordenebis darigebaSi amxelen 

da edavebian, _ finansur 

sargebels naxulobso. daviT 

bagrationis mxare ki gruzinskebs 

bagrationobas edaveba, _ sixaruliZeebi 

xarT da dnm unda 

Catardeso. 

modi da nu gagecineba, Tan 

mwared. jer am ordenebis damrigeblis 

tvinSi Camaxeda da mere 

imaT tvinSi, vinc am ordenebSi 

fuls ixdis! axla, kidev, amaT 

deenemTmcodneobaSi! sainteresoa, 

mainc, ra hgoniaT „deenemi” 

am utaxto yaraCoRelebs? sapatriarqom 

dnm-is kvleva Caatarebina 

da nugzar bagration-gruzinski 

sixaruliZe gamodgao. eg 

rogor? kai, davijere, rom nugo 

mefes deenemi auRes da mamamisis 

_ petre gruzinskisas Seudares 

da ar dadasturda maTi mamaSviloba 

da aqedan daaskvnes, rom 

nugo bagrationi araa, magram 

saidan daaskvnes, rom sixaruliZea? 

vis hqonda eWvi noe sixaruliZeze, 

rom maincdamainc 

noesas Seudares da noe gamodga 

nugos mama? da, saerTod, nugzars 

rom auRon, visas unda Seadaron, 

rom bagrationoba daamtkicon? 

mamamisisas? da mamamisisas 

rom daemTxves, ra garantia 

gvaqvs, rom is mama _ petre gruzinski, 

bagrationi iyo? egeb da 

petre gruzinski ar iyo bagrationi? 

axla petres dnm SevadaroT 

mamamisisas da ase CavideT da 

vTxaroT kurapalatebamde? mokled, 

yvela mefe gavTxaroT? 

konstituciuri monarqiis idea, 

jer kidev, saakaSvilis dros 

Semoagdo ruseTma. es aravisTvis 

siaxles ar warmoadgens... swored 

im gegmis nawili iyo dRes erTmaneTs 

samkvdro-sasicocxlod 

datakebuli anasa da daviTis 

usiyvarulod SeuRlebac. axla 

ki am Tavisi „kuSetkis” TamaSebiT 

TviTon uReben bolos konstituciuri 

monariqiis ideas. 

ar vici, Segnebulad akeTeben 

amas Tu erTimeoris qiSpiT, magram, 

saboloo jamSi, maTi es qmedeba, 

nebsiT Tu uneblieT, patriotuli 

gamodis _ sabolood 

afarCakeben ruseTis mier Semogdebul 

ideas _ konstituciuri 

monarqiis ideas. madloba 

maT amisTvis. 

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`saqarTvelo kremlis filialia~ 

giorgi sakaruli 

555 42 42 90 

„qronika+~-is kiTxvebs „lei- 

boristuli partiis~ Tavmjdoma- 

re, Salva naTelaSvili pasuxobs: 

_ batono Salva, rogor SeafasebT 

bolo dros mimdinare movlenebs, 

kerZod ki „qarTul ocneba- 

Si” arsebul politikur kriziss? 

_ qarTuli politikisTvis rame 

axali ar momxdara. iseve iSleba da 

lpeba „qarTuli ocneba”, rogorc 

gamolpa SevardnaZis „moqalaqeTa 

kavSiri”, saakaSvilis „nacmoZraoba”, 

aslan abaSiZis „aRorZineba” da 

zustad igives imeorebs „qarTuli 

ocneba”, oRond ufro maRali rakursiT; 

Tundac „mrgvali magida”. 

Tu am CamoTvlil subieqtebSi 

politika iyo, „qarTuli ocnebis” 

SemTxvevaSi aris misi udidebulesoba 

dolari, SiSveli mxecuri in- 

`parlamentSi, 

sadac sportsmenebi 

da msaxiobebi 

arian, is qveyana 

daRupulia~ 

mi iZireba, mgzavrebi, personali, 

ekipaJi damxmare katerebSi sxdebian, 

rom gadarCnen da isev did gemze 

gadasxdnen. igive procesi midis 

aq _ axla isev didi gemis gakeTeba 

undaT, sadac tyved datoveben 

Cvens qveyanas. 

_ Tumca ramdenad SeZleben 

„qarTul ocnebas” gamoyofilebi, 

rom am gemze moxvdnen? 

_ es damokidebulia ara mxolod 

am adamianebze, aramed Cveni 

xalxis sibriyvis koeficientze _ 

vercxlismoyvareebis, gayidvisken 

midrekilebis koeficientze. Tu 

isev gaiyida xalxi, Tu isev Tavi 

moityua, Tu isev kartofili Tu 

jandaba aiRo, maSin aranairi mniSvneloba 

ar aqvs, xazaraZe iqneba 

Tu ivaniSvili _ am qveynis saqme 

samudamod damTavrebulia, istoria 

aRar gvitovebs pauzas, amosasunTq 

dros. xom xedavT, ra xdeba, 

maxrCobela piToni iseTi tempebiT 

rogorc Tavad amboben, partiaSi 

Zvelebisgan ganTavisuflebul 

adgilebs daikaveben. 

_ es igivea, rac am tvinnaklulma 

arsebam Tqva, romelic, saubedurod, 

dRes gvmarTavs, rom glexebma 

bankiri daiqiravon, Tu ar 

ician, rogor aiRon krediti da is 

auxsniso. es xom Tqva Tavisi piriT?! 

adre mwvane dolariT Sekra 

partia, axla unda, rom kontraqtiT 

Sekras. arada, msoflio politikuri 

goni partiis SeqmnisTvis 

aucilebel pirobad miiCnevs ara 

kontraqts, aramed nebayoflobas, 

TanamoazreTa gaerTianebas, iseve 

rogorc TanamorwmuneTa gaer- 

Tianebaa eklesia, TanamoazreTa 

gaerTianebaa profesiuli, dargobrivi 

mweralTa kavSiri, kompozitorTa 

kavSiri da a. S. aq ivaniSvils 

Semoaqvs kastingis, tenderisa 

da veluri biznesis principebi. 

rasac akeTebda aqamde Cumad, axla 

tebis mogvarebaze ki ar laparakoben, 

isini saubroben ivaniSvilis 

davalebebsa da mis interesebze. 

gaxariac fsb-s gamogzavnilia; premier-ministri, 

es banditi bavSvic 

fsb-s gamogzavnilia, amitom aseT 

Temebze msjeloben da, faqtobrivad, 

yvelaferi moskovs gadaabara, 

teritoriac da mTavrobac, amitom 

am sakiTxs mxolod ivaniSvilis 

reJimis Camomxoba moagvarebs da 

SeiaraRebuli Zalebis adgilze 

dgoma. roca im wunwklian russ da 

moRalate oss ecodineba, rom iq 

dgas avtomatiani jariskaci, tanki 

da specrazmi, mere ukve amas ar 

izamen, imitom rom ruseTi sanqciebSi 

ixrCoba. putinisa da misi naTesavebis 

mimarT iseTi sanqciebi dawesda, 

rom sadam huseinis mimarTac 

ar yofila msgavsi ram da isini 

ver gabedaven mets. gabedaven da 

SeiZleba, mesame msoflio omTan 

mivides kacobrioba. Cven TviTon 

bitkoinebiT ramdeni milioni iSova 

ivaniSvilma da qveyana rom biznesad 

aqcia. murusiZeebi da Cin- 

CalaZeebi beselias damtkicebulebi 

ar arian? mxolod amboben, rom 

ar moswonT kobaxiZis Colka, Torem 

sxva kritika magaTgan rame gagigiaT? 

amitom, patar-patara partiebiT 

mravldebian, mere gauSvebs 

fuls, iyidian sulgayidul amomrCevels, 

3%-s gadaalaxineben da 

isev umravlesobas gaakeTeben. 

Tqven warmogidgeniaT, saakaSvilis 

Semotrialeba aq ras niSnavs? _ es 

igivea, lomi gamouSva galiidan. 

pirvel rigSi Tavisebs daereva. amitom 

„leiboristuli partiis” 

garda sxva alternativa qveyanas 

ar aqvs. gana imitom vambob, rom am 

partiis Tavmjdomare var, aramed 

es aris realuri WeSmariteba. parlamentSi, 

sadac sportsmenebi da 

msaxiobebi arian, is qveyana daRupulia. 

`nebismieri 

micvalebuli 

rom amoasvenon, 

amas ufro meti 

datvirTva 

eqneba, vidre 

RaribaSvilis 

dabrunebas~ 

stinqtebi, amitom maTi CamoSla 

bevrad mtkivneuli iqneba ara marto 

maTTvis, aramed qveynisTvisac 

da tragikuli misi liderisTvis, 

romelic SeiZleba, ver gadaurCes 

fizikurad am process. vimeoreb: 

aq aris SiSveli instinqturi dapirispireba, 

aq aris wminda wylis 

qonebrivi gadanawileba im doneze, 

rom erTmaneTis gakulakeba daiwyes. 

xazaraZe ivaniSvilis oligarqiuli 

reJimisa da partiis wevri 

iyo. „qarTuli ocneba” erTi partiaa, 

romelic zedapirze Wams. sinamdvileSi, 

es aris msxvili oligarqiis 

partia, msxvili oligarqiis 

Zalaufleba, romelmac politikis 

uzurpacia moaxdina da am 

veraguli miznebis gansaxorcieleblad 

yvelaze xelsayrel figurad 

biZina ivaniSvili gamonaxa, rom 

qarTuli saxelmwifo sakuTar biznesad 

gadaeformebina, romelsac 

gamyidvelma elitam qvelmoqmedis 

imiji Seuqmna. sinamdvileSi ki ivaniSvili 

yvelaze saSiSi iyo oligarqebs 

Soris Tavisi veraguli, cxoveluri 

ganzraxvebiT, rac dadasturda 

kidevac. arc miwaSi dagvitova 

rame, arc _ haerSi da saerTod 

arsad, magram axla am winamZRolma 

CaiCoqa, gaiSifra. mTlianad 

gaSiSvlebulia da misi yvela avi 

zraxva, gegma da saqmianoba srulad 

Cans nouTbuqis ekranze. amitom 

axla oligarqia SeSfoTda, radgan 

namdvili politikis dabruneba 

maT fsevdopolitikaSi maTive dasasrulia. 

isini iZulebulebi iqnebian, 

daiwyon gadasaxadebis gadaxda, 

biujetis Sevseba, samuSaoebis 

gaxsna, wavidnen cixeSi, agon pasuxi, 

anu es maTi strategiaa. Sesabamisad, 

panikaa atexili. roca didi ge- 

14 

ar axrCobs Tavis msxverpls, 

rogorc Cven gvaxrCoben garedan 

Tu Signidan, yovel wuTsa da wams. 

amitom es xalxze aris damokidebuli, 

RmerTma qnas, ar Sevcde. 

_ rogor fiqrobT, eqneba „oc- 

nebas” xalxis mxardaWera? 

_ mgoni, xalxi iRviZebs, magram 

yvelaze metad Cveni saxelmwifo 

biurokratia maSfoTebs, romelic 

oligarqiuli partiis specrazmia: 

gamgeobis TanamSromlebi, soflis 

rwmunebulebi, guberniis TanamSromlebi, 

TviTmmarTvelobebi, amaT 

SeuZliaT moaxdinon quCis, ubnis, 

soflis, konkretuli warmoebis 

uzurpacia da isev miutanon amaT 

xmebi. amitom politikurma partiebma 

unda moviwvioT erovnuli forumi 

da unda vimsjeloT, amaT mivmarToT 

da mere daviwyoT maTi 

mxileba. gamgeblis mdivanic ki 

ubedurebaa saqarTvelosTvis, imitom 

rom im mdivans Tavisi sofeli 

hyavs, Tavisi gvari, klaselebi 

da arCevnebis dros is specrazmelia 

eris winaSe. axlaxan duSeTSi 

viyavi, Cemi Tanaklaseli gardaicvala, 

araCveulebrivi pirovneba da 

im raionis mTeli mmarTveloba iq 

iyo. ise SeeSindaT Cemi danaxvis, 

rom SeiZleba, sikvdilis danaxvis 

ar SeSinebodaT. gana, ar vuyvarvarT, 

ubralod, vinmes ar emxilebinebina 

CemTan xelis CamorTmeva- 

Si. amas araferi gamoasworebs ukve, 

amitom amaTi mxilebaa saWiro. 

_ batono Salva, albaT dameT- 

anxmebiT, rom msoflio politikis 

istorias ar axsovs, rodesac 

mmarTveli gundi, am SemTxvevaSi, 

„qarTuli ocneba”, axal wevrebs 

CV-ebis saSualebiT arCevs. CV-iT 

SerCeuli axali liderebi ki, 

pirdapir Tqva, rom raRa gedevan 

fofxaZes vuxado 10 aTasi dolari 

yovel Tve da 15 aTasi TalakvaZeso? 

iciT, rom yovel Tve „stavkebi” 

midis deputatebTan?! 10 

aTasi dolari rigiT deputatebs 

da 15 aTasi dolari fraqciis 

TavmjdomaresTan da umravlesobis 

liderebTan. Cemi informaciiT, 

bolos dros SeaCera fulis gacema 

amaTzec da maRraZeze, „ucnobze”, 

„greCixebze” da bandaze, 

imitom gamovardnen da bRavian 

axla. rogorc ki ganuaxlebs am fulis 

micemas, imave wuTs gamogvecxadebian 

televiziiT da gvetyvian, 

rom axla ivaniSvilma gamosworeba 

daiwyo da satanisgan male miviRebT 

angelozs. 

_ ras niSnavs RaribaSvilis me- 

ored dabruneba politikaSi? 

ivaniSvili darwmunebulia, rom 

RaribaSvili gamoiyvans „qarTul 

ocnebas” krizisidan? 

_ nebismieri micvalebuli rom 

amoasvenon kukiis sasaflaodan 

axloblebma, megobrebma da daasvenon 

taZarSi an saxlSi, amas ufro 

meti datvirTva da rezonansi eqneba, 

vidre RaribaSvilis viTom dabrunebas. 

jer is politikaSi arasdros 

Semosula, radgan samarcxvino 

xelis biWi iyo. es aris Caxdili 

naZirala. 

_ batono Salva, okupaciis Te- 

mas minda, Sevexo. rogor fiqrobT, 

ra nabijebi unda gadadgas xelisuflebam 

imisTvis, rom mcocavi ok- 

upacia SeaCeros, radgan vxedavT, 

rom dRiTi dRe vkargavT miwebs da 

am dros xelisufleba dums. 

_ xmas ar iReben da teritoriebs 

aRobineben. abaSiZe da karasini 

yavis xarisxze an marTla konfliq- 

unda vimoqmedoT, viaqtiuroT, 

Cveni jari jars unda hgavdes, specrazmi 

_ specrazms da wina xazi _ 

wina xazs. saqarTvelo kremlis filialia 

da kidev kargad movediT 

aqamde. 

_ SeiZleba iTqvas, rom winasaarCevno 

cieb-cxeleba ukve dawyebulia. 

mmarTveli gundi kriziss 

ganicdis da axali poli- 

tikuri partiebi iqmneba. sad aris 

„leiboristuli partia”, rogor 

emzadebiT 2020 wlis saparlamen- 

to arCevnebisTvis, sad xedavT 

gamosavals? maxsovs, Tqven quCis 

aqciebic daaanonseT. 

_ quCis aqciebis garda am reJims 

ver davamarcxebT. mova 2020 wlis 

arCevnebi , ivaniSvili isev gaiyvans 

50 yaCaR maJoritar deputats da 

Seni partiiT ginda pirvel adgilze 

gadi 10 kinkila deputatiT, 

ginda _ meoreze, ivaniSvils mainc 

umravlesoba eyoleba. isev axal 

partiebs Seqmnis moRalate, banditis 

sulgayidul gaCeCilaZeebisgan, 

maRraZeebisgan da beseliebisgan, 

radgan maTi dacileba gamoricxulia. 

rogorc col-qmari ver 

dascildeba, romelsac saerTo 

Svili da qoneba aqvs, sabolood 

mainc Svilebis interesebze ifiqrebs, 

ise eseni ver dascildebian 

erTmaneTs. siamis tyupebs ufro 

daacileb. 

_ fiqrobT, rom beselia da 

partiidan wamosuli sxva depu- 

tatebi isev TanamSromleben 

ivaniSvilTan? 

_ ra Tqma unda. ivaniSvilze ambobs 

vinme rames, _ beselia, fofxaZe 

an is kvaWantiraZe? ramdeni 

ubedureba ician da ratom arafers 

amboben? ratom ar amboben, 

_ quCis aqciebs sxvagvari mo- 

bilizeba sWirdeba, sadac xalxis 

didi raodenobaa saWiro. 

_ Cven ukve daviwyeT. es dReebi 

nel-nela gamovdivarT da aqciebs 

vawyobT. pirdapir milioni xalxis 

gamoyvaniT ar xdeba es procesebi. 

zvavi patara Tovlis gundisgan 

grovdeba. 

_ sxva opoziciur partiebTan 

TanamSromlobas gamoricxavT? 

_ TanamSromlobas ar gamovricxav, 

radgan momavali mTavroba 

RmerTma daifaros, rom erTpartiuli 

iyos. momavali mTavroba unda 

iyos mravalpartiuli da konkurentunariani, 

rom erTmaneTs 

uTvalTvalon, radgan romelime 

ministrma ar waiRos is, rac ar 

ekuTvnis da meore ministri unda 

iyos imis garanti, rom mas amxels. 

es mxolod mravalpartiul mTavrobas 

SeuZlia. 

_ koaliciur TanamSromlobas 

xom ar apirebT? 

_ samTavrobos ki, magram saparlamento 

siebSi rom midis vaWroba 

da gayofa, es CemTvis moralurad 

miuRebelia. keTili inebon, moemzadon, 

xalxs Tavi moawonon, gadalaxon 

is 3%-iani barieri, Semovidnen 

parlamentSi da iq SevqmnaT 

koaliciuri mTavroba. namdvilad 

ar maqvs imis pretenzia, rom umravlesobiT 

marto me movide. partiebma 

memorandumi unda gavaformoT, 

rom arc erTi partiis siaSi ar 

iyos oligarqi. 

_ dabolos, ra molodini gaqvT 

2020 wlis saparlamento arCevneb- 

Si? ra moxdeba da rogori iqneba 

Sedegebi? 

_ 2020 wlis arCevnebze ivaniSvili 

damTavrebulia. mTavaria, axali 

ivaniSvili ar gamovCxrikoT. 

14 N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w.

alvina aleqsaniani 

daujerebelia, magram faqtia _ dRes, medicinis arnaxuli 

ganviTarebis epoqaSi, erT-erTi mTavari gamowveva samedicino 

Secdomebia, romelTa raodenobac wlidan wlamde imatebs da 

sazogadoebas udides moralur Tu finansur tvirTad awveba. 

medicina erT-erTi is dargia, 

romelSic daSvebulma gadacdomam 

metad savalalo da tragikuli 

Sedegi SeiZleba gamoiwvios. 

saqme xom adamians, mis sicocxles 

exeba. 

msoflio jandacvis organizaciis 

azriT, samedicino warmomadgenlis 

yvela Secdoma rom 

aisaxos, statistikurad, sikvdilis 

ZiriTad mizezebSi, gul-sisxlZarRvTa 

daavadebebisa da simsivnis 

Semdgom, eqimebis Secdomebi 

mesame adgilze iqneboda. 

saqarTveloSi pacientTa da- 

Rupvis mizezi xSirad swored 

eqimebis mier dasmuli araswori 

diagnozia. Tbilisis erT-erTi 

poliklinikis eqimis aseTma daudevrobam 

Seuqcevadi Sedegebi 

gamoiwvia. 

2018 wlis agvistoSi adgilobrivma 

mkvidrma xmis dakargvis 

simptomiT dauyovnebliv Tavis 

Terapevts mimarTa. eqimis diagnozi 

iyo _ bronqiti. avadmyofs 

gamouweres antibiotikebi, sawuwni 

abebi da saxlSi gauSves. Tumca 

pacientis mdgomareoba gauaresda 

da sami Tvis Semdeg aRmoCnda, 

rom mas, sinamdvileSi, 

filtvis kibos meoTxe, anu yvelaze 

mZime stadia hqonda. eqimis 

cru diagnozi mamakacisTvis 

fataluri SedegiT dasrulda _ 

TebervalSi igi 66 wlis asakSi 

garadaicvala. 

`qronika+~-s detalebs gar- 

dacvlilis Svili uyveba: 

„2018 wlis agvistoSi mamam xma 

dakarga, rac Zalian moulodneli 

iyo, vinaidan is ar eweoda da 

arc gaciebuli iyo. igi raionul 

TerapevtTan mivida, romelmac 

filtvebis rentgenografiaze 

gauSva. rentgenis suraTis 

danaxvis Semdeg bronqitis diagnozi 

dasva, medikamentebi gamouwera 

da saxlSi gauSva. aranairi 

safrTxis Sesaxeb Terapevts 

ar gaufrTxilebia, rentgenis 

suraTze ki ewera mxolod 

erTi fraza: „uaryofiTi dinamika“. 

mamas mdgomareoba dRiTi 

dRe uaresdeboda, eqimis mier 

gamowerili mkurnaloba ar Sveloda. 

imanac SegvaSina, rom pirvelad 

simptoms daemata xixini, 

gaxangrZlivebuli xvela, wonaSi 

kleba, sisuste. diagnozSi 

eWvi Segvepara da noemberSi mama 

nacnob onkologTan waviyvane. 

specialistis ganaCeni CvenTvis 

dartyma iyo“. 

2018 wlis noembramde mamakacma 

Tavisi zusti diagnozi ar 

icoda da situaciis mTeli seriozulobis 

Sesaxeb mxolod kvalificiuri 

onkologis konsultaciis 

Semdeg gaigo: „rogorc 

ki onkologma mamaCemi gasinja 

da agvistoSi gadaRebuli rentgenis 

suraTi Seiswavla, filtvis 

kibos diagnozi dasva, xolo 

damatebiTi analizebis Catarebis 

Semdeg meoTxe stadiis Sesaxeb 

gvacnoba. isic gviTxra, rom 

ori Tvis winaTac ki avTvisebiani 

ujredebis ganviTarebis 

prevenciis didi Sansi iyo“. 

mzrunvelma ojaxma yvelaferi 

gaakeTa, rom misTvis Zvirfasi 

adamianisTvis cota mainc 

gaexangrZlivebina sicocxle da 

mdgomareoba Seemsubuqebina. samwuxarod, 

ori qimioTerapiis 

Semdeg mamakaci 66 wlis asakSi 

saxlSi, ojaxis wevrebis Tvalwin 

gardaicvala. 

„es aris araprofesionalizmisa 

da daudevrobis samwuxaro 

realoba. vin icis, sinamdvile- 

Si, ramdeni ojaxi aRmoCnda aseT 

dReSi. jandacvis sfero rom 

yvelaze problemuri dargia, es 

dRes kidev erTxel sakuTar 

mSobelze gamovcadeT“. 

sad gadis zRvari Secdomasa 

`profesiuli ganviTarebis sabWom gasuli wlis 

ganmavlobaSi pacientebisTvis gaweul 

samedicino momsaxurebasTan dakavSirebuli 

162 sakiTxi (sul - 348 eqimi) ganixila. 

sakiTxis ganxilvis Sedegad ki 342 eqims 

profesiuli pasuxismgebloba daekisra. 342 

eqimidan naxevarze mets (235 eqimi) yvelaze 

msubuqi sasjeli daekisra - "werilobiTi 

gafrTxileba" mieca; 105 eqims saxelmwifo 

sertifikatis moqmedeba sxvadasxva vadiT 

SeuCerda (1 TviT - 54 eqims, 2 TviT - 36 eqims, 

3 TviT - 11 eqims, 4 TviT - 3 eqims, 5 TviT - 1 

eqims); da mxolod da mxolod 2 eqims 

gauuqmda saxelmwifo sertifikati~ 

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medikosebis 

daudevroba 

da samedicino 

Secdomebi 

eqimma kibo 

da bronqiti 

erTmaneTisgan 

ver gaarCia 

da daudevrobas Soris? 

am tragediis Tavidan acileba 

jer kidev eqvsi Tvis winaT 

iyo SesaZlebeli swori diagnozis 

dasmiT da kibos adreuli 

gamovleniT. vinaidan filtvis 

kibos ujredebi didi siCqariT 

mravldeba, ris gamoc simsivnuri 

warmonaqmni swrafad 

izrdeba, sami Tve srulebiT 

sakmarisi gaxda sasikvdilo daavadebis 

Sorswasuli formis Camosayalibeblad. 

eqimebis arakompetenturoba, 

uyuradReboba an situaciis seriozulobis 

arasaTanado Sefaseba 

Tavisi oficialuri movaleobebis 

Sesrulebisas, Cvens 

realobaSi gavrcelebuli fenomenia. 

zogjer eqimis aseTi gadacdoma 

SeiZleba uvnebeli iyos, 

magram Tavisi funqciebis specifikurobis 

gamo, ufro xSirad, 

eqimis Secdomas tragikuli Sedegebi 

mohyveba. 

es tragikuli istoria ar aris 

gasuli wlis erTaderTi SemTxveva, 

roca pacientis axloblebi 

eqimebs daudevrobaSi 

adanaSauleben. 

2018 wlis ganmavlobaSi 342 

eqims profesiuli pasuxismgebloba 

daekisra. samedicino saqmianobis 

saxelmwifo regulirebis 

saagentos 2018 wlis angari- 

Si gvamcnobs: 

profesiuli ganviTarebis sabWom 

gasuli wlis ganmavlobaSi 

pacientebisTvis gaweul samedicino 

momsaxurebasTan dakav- 

Sirebuli 162 sakiTxi (sul _ 348 

eqimi) ganixila. sakiTxis ganxilvis 

Sedegad ki 342 eqims profesiuli 

pasuxismgebloba daekisra. 

342 eqimidan naxevarze mets 

(235 eqimi) yvelaze msubuqi 

sasjeli daekisra _ „werilobi- 

Ti gafrTxileba“ mieca; 105 

eqims saxelmwifo sertifikatis 

moqmedeba sxvadasxva vadiT 

SeuCerda (1 TviT _ 54 eqims, 2 

TviT _ 36 eqims, 3 TviT _ 11 

eqims, 4 TviT _ 3 eqims, 5 TviT _ 

1 eqims); da mxolod da mxolod 

2 eqims gauuqmda saxelmwifo 

sertifikati, anu samedicino 

saqmianobis licenzia waerTva. 

dRes saqarTvelos samedicino 

sferoSi arsebuli viTareba 

mZimea. amis dasturia dRemde 

arsebuli aqtualuri kiTxva: 

„vinme sando eqims xom ar mirCevdi?“ 

sanam maRalia eqimebis profesiuli 

saqmianobisas Secdomebis 

daSvebis riski, maT Soris, 

eqimebis araprofesionalizmis, 

gulgrilobis, pacientebis mimarT 

uxeSi damokidebulebisa da 

maTi saqmianobis regulirebis 

berketebis Seusabamobis mizezebis 

gamo, yvela pacientis sicocxlis 

ufleba daucvelia. SesaZloa, 

vinmem zemoT moyvanili 

statistika sxva qveynebs Seadaros 

da daaskvnas, rom saqme arc 

ise cudad gvaqvs, Tumca unda 

gvaxsovdes, rom yoveli SemTxvevis 

miRma konkretuli adamianis, 

ojaxis tragedia dgas, 

visTvisac damnaSave eqimze sxvadasxva 

sanqciis dakisrebac mcire, 

magram mainc SeRavaTia. 

Tumca, xSirad sruli suraTi 

mainc ver aisaxeba, radgan pacientis 

axloblebi zogjer ar an 

ver mimarTaven Sesabamis uwyebebs 

reagirebis moTxovniT. maTi 

didi nawili saCivars mxolod im 

mizeziT ar wers, rom Sedegis 

imedi ar aqvs. amis TvalsaCino 

magaliTia isic, rom 13 wlis 

ganmavlobaSi, 2006 wlidan 2018 

wlamde, jandacvis saministros 

samedicino saqmianobis regulirebis 

saagentom sertifikati 

mxolod 10 eqims gauuqma, es ma- 

Sin, rodesac klinikebSi gardacvlili 

TiTqmis yoveli mesame 

pacientis ojaxi momxdarSi 

eqims adanaSaulebs. 

marTalia, saministro yvela 

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saqmianobis regulirebis saagentos 

arakeTilsindisierebaSi, Ti- 

Tqos saagentos wevrebi ufrTxildebian 

TavianTi kolegebis imijs 

da yvelaze mZime SemTxvevebis 

drosac ki maTTvis licenziis 

SeCerebaze mkacr sasjels ar 

iTxoven. bolo periodSi pacientebis 

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problemas ver ereva an ar surs 

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jandacvis sferoSi problemebia 

da aucilebelia, maTi saswrafod 

mogvareba. jandacvis saministrom, 

kerZod ki ministrma, saswrafod 

unda moaxdinos mkacri 

reagireba. 

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krizisidan, romelic dRiTi dRe 

Rrmavdeba: xan erTi ministris wasvlis 

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xan _ meoris. Cven vxedavT, rom ministri 

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krizisze metyvelebs. magaliTad, 

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Tavs imis uflebas, rom aseTi SantaJis 

eniT elaparakon ivaniSvils 

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rom wulukiani gundis Sig- 

niTac saubrobda ultimatumis 

eniT, axla ki es sajarod daiwyo. 

is faqti, rom me-7 welia, wuluki- 

ans ver „exebian“, raze miuTiTebs? 

sxvadasxva versia arsebobs, Tqven 

rogor axsniT? 

_ wulukiani aris „qarTuli ocnebisa“ 

da ivaniSvilis yvelaze bin- 

Zuri saqmeebis, saidumloebebis 

Tanamonawile da Sesabamisad, informacias 

flobs am binZur saqmeebze. 

magaliTad, rogor „dalagda“ 

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Txis winaSe daayenos Cveni qveyana 

da Cveni SeiaraRebuli Zalebi. SegviZlia 

gavixsenoT aseve kiwmariSvilis 

bundovanebiT moculi saqme, 

vano merabiSvilis saknidan gayvanis 

saqme, razedac saqarTvelos- 

Tan mimarTebiT strasburgis sasamarTlom 

uprecedento gadawyvetileba 

miiRo. unda aRiniSnos isic, 

rom swored wulukianisa da 

reestris gamoyenebiT yalbdeba 

arCevnebi saxelisuflebo gundis 

sasargeblod. am yvelaferSi, didi 

albaTobiT, savaraudod, wulukianis 

xeli urevia, amitom is am saidumloebebis 

mcvelia da ara _ „qarTuli 

ocnebis“. swored am saidumloebebis 

gamJRavnebis eSinia 

ivaniSvils da amitom aZlevs wulukiani 

sakuTar Tavs imis uflebas, 

ase ivaWros da aSantaJos ivaniSvili, 

amiT ki Zalaufleba Seinar- 

Cunos. es aris erTaderTi mizezi, 

Torem ivaniSvili rom kompentenciis 

mixedviT kadrebs ar arCevs, 

rac ar unda vidavoT an ar vidavoT 

wulukianis kompentenciaze, es 

xom cxadze cxadia. adamiani, romelic 

WikaiZes daniSnavs im qveynis 

Sinagan saqmeTa ministrad, romlis 

20%-ic okupirebulia, sadac mzardi 

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arCevs. misTvis Rirebulia 

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gaamJRavnebs ivaniSvilis xelisuflebis 

binZur saqmeebs, rac 

bolo 7 wlis manZilze gakeTda. 

_ wulukianis ministris post 

st- 

ze darCenis paralelurad „qarTuli 

ocneba“ iwyebs axali saxeeb- 

ìvaniSvili 

dasustebulia 

da xelidan 

ecleba 

yvela~ 

is moZiebas. gavrcelda kidec in- 

formacia, rom amaSi ucxouri HR 

kompania CaerTveba. amis gaTval- 

iswinebiT ramdenad aqvs „ocnebas“ 

Zalebis aRdgenis Sansi? 

_ arCil TalakvaZe umravlesobis 

lideria, mamuka mdinaraZe ki _ 

fraqcia „qarTuli ocnebis“ Tavmjdomare. 

Tavis droze, es adamianebi 

iyvnen viTom axali saxeebi 

„qarTuli ocnebisTvis“ da vin arian 

isini dRes?! isini arian brma 

gamJRereblebi im partiuli diqtatisa, 

romelic ivaniSvilis survilebisgan 

Sedgeba, anu am adamianebs 

TavianTi azri ar gaaCniaT. 

maT mxolod im mesijis gaJRereba 

SeuZliaT, rasac TavianT jgufur 

CatSi miiReben, es mesijebi ki ivaniSvilisgan 

momdinareobs. politikaSi 

axali saxeebi mxolod fizikur 

axal saxes an axal vizuals 

ar niSnavs, minda xazgasmiT vTqva, 

rom axali saxe axal, jansaR xedvas 

niSnavs da xSir SemTxvevaSi 

ufro kritikul xedvas. mmarTvel 

gundSi es yovelTvis ase unda 

iyos, anu siaxlis mozidva unda 

gindodes imisTvis, rom gansxvavebuli 

azri Seitano Sens xedvaSi. 

wlebis manZilze SeiZleba, daiRalos 

„jgufuri azrovneba“ _ aseTi 

`RaribaSvilis dabruneba zustad metyvelebs 

imaze, Tu ra Rrma krizisSia Sesuli 

ivaniSvili da misi politikuri proeqti. 

faqtia, rom RaribaSvili odiozuri figuraa, 

romelsac araferi pozitiuri ar ukavSirdeba, 

piriqiT am adamianis mxrebzea araerTi 

skandali, maT Soris, Zalian bevri 

korufciuli braldeba TamazaSvilis, 

janyaraSvilisa da misi klanis sxva wevrebis 

monawileobiT. aseve laris kursma 

katastrofuli vardna, swored, misi 

premierobis dros daiwyo, mis mxrebzea Salva 

TaTuxaSvilis saqme. is iyo premieri, romelic 

Tavisi agresiuli ritorikiT Zalian 

aRizianebda saerTaSoriso partniorebs da 

swored maTi faqtoris gaTvaliswinebiTac 

gadaayenes premier-ministris postidan~ 

Teoriaa politikur mecnierebaSi. 

am SemTxvevaSi jgufurad ki ar 

azrovneben, mxolod erTi adamianis 

karnaxs elodebian da imis 

iqiT azrovnebis, ubralod, aRarc 

ufleba aqvT da SeiZleba, zogierT 

maTgans _ aRarc SesaZlebloba da 

unari. axali saxe unda niSnavdes 

axali energiisa da xedvis Semotanas, 

imisTvis Tu rogor unda ganaviTaro 

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xdeba kompetenturi, naTeli, kritikuli 

da jansaRad moazrovne 

adamianebis mozidva. amitomac tardeba 

es konkursi, romelsac, savaraudod, 

did resurss axarjavs 

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xarjavs, Torem ivaniSvili am 

fuls jibidan namdvilad ar amoi- 

Rebs. isev Cven _ moqalaqeebs gadagvaxdevinebs 

fuls imisTvis, rom 

sozar subarma da misma stafma 

xelfasi aiRon axali saxeebis mosazidad, 

romlis mTavari simboloc 

aris irakli RaribaSvili. sruli 

absurdia is, rom es raRac cvlilebas 

gamoiwvevs am politikur 

gundSi. 

_ rogorc ki gavrcelda informacia 

axali saxeebis mozidvas- 

Tan dakavSirebiT, maSinve gaCnda 

mosazreba, rom „qarTuli ocneba“ 

aRar aris „moduri“ da amitom 

mmarTvel gunds didi Zalisxmevis 

daxarjva uwevs gundSi axali saxeebis 

mosazidad. „ocnebis“ poli- 

tikur velze gamoCenis periodi 

axlandel mocemulobas, rom Se- 

vadaroT, rogor Seicvala Skal- 

aze misi reitingi da ram ganapir- 

oba is, rom mmarTveli gundi 

dRes „moduri“ aRar aris? 

_ Tavidanve vaxsene, rom ivaniS- 

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SevZlebT ivaniSvilis gastumrebas~ 

vili da es politikuri proeqti 

toqsikuri gaxda, _ aRar izidavs 

axal xalxs. adamians, romelsac 

sufTa warsuli, maRali reputacia 

da kompetencia aqvs, mas ar surs, 

rom misi saxeli gaisvaros imiT, 

rom asocirdes kacTan, romelsac 

momavali ar gaaCnia. xalxSi es gancdaa 

_ am adamians da mis politikur 

proeqts momavali aRar gaaCnia. 

SeiZleba, dRes-xval iyos, magram 

zeg da mazeg es politikuri proeqti 

dasruldeba. es adamianebi ar 

arian gaerTianebuli raRac ideis 

irgvliv, maT mxolod ivaniSvilis 

fuli izidavT magnitiviT. rogorc 

wesi, fulis interesis irgvliv 

Sekrebili adamianebi Zalian 

male iqsaqseban da iSlebian, rodesac 

es erTaderTi interesi qreba. 

„nacionalur moZraobas“ ukve wlebia, 

ebrZvian: ramdeni lideri dagviWires, 

ramdeni qveynidan gaagdes 

da aTasobiT xalxs atarebdnen sxvadasxva 

samarTaldamcav uwyeba- 

Si gamokiTxvebze. magaliTad, erTi 

adamiani gvyavda martvilSi, romelic 

31-jer dakiTxes. ra Tqma unda, 

es zewola iyo, rom Sexedulebebi 

Segvecvala magram es ar emar- 

TebaT ideis irgvliv gaerTianebul 

adamianebs. biZina ivaniSvilis 

mTeli ubedureba is aris, rom es 

ver gaigo. mas hgonia, rom, zogadad, 

mxolod merkantiluri interesebiT 

imarTebian adamianebi 

da saerTod ar esmis, sxva ra motivacia 

SeiZleba hqondes politikoss 

an Cveulebriv aqtivists. mas 

ar esmis, ratom unda Camouyalibdes 

konkretuli mrwamsi Tu am mrwamsSi 

ar devs merkantiluri interesebi, 

es ver Seigno am adamianma 

da amitomac aris misi politikuri 

gundi aseTi myife. 

_ Tqven axla axseneT, rom 

ivaniSvilisTvis warmoudgenelia 

aramerkantiluri interesebiT 

adamianebis gaerTianeba. misi ase- 

Ti damokidebuleba Cveni sazoga- 

doebis damsaxureba xom ar aris? 

Tavis droze, roca ivaniSvili mo- 

vida, xalxis did nawils gancda 

hqonda, rom ufaso fuli iqneboda 

da ivaniSvilis kmayofaze Se- 

Zlebda cxovrebas. 

_ saprezidento arCevnebis bedi 

didwilad amomrCevlis mosyidvam 

da Tundac im valebis gauqmebis 

programam gadawyvita, romelic 

ivaniSvilma baxtaZis piriT daaanonsa. 

es ase iyo da amaze metyvelebs 

yvela saerTaSoriso organizaciis 

daskvna. magram, Cemi azriT, 

am yvelaferSi moqalaqeebis dadanaSauleba 

Zalian didi usamarTlobaa. 

xelisuflebis arakompetenturobam, 

sakuTar Tavze orientirebulma 

politikam, romliTac 

ivaniSvili mxolod Tavisi kapitalis 

gazrdaze fiqrobs da misi biurokratebi, 

uxeSad rom vTqvaT, 

mxolod jibis gasqelebaze fiqroben, 

swored aman moitana is ukiduresi 

siduxWire, rac mere aiZulebs 

adamianebs, rom yvelaze Zvirfasi 

_ samoqalaqo ufleba, anu 

qveynis marTvis bedSi sakuTari wvlilis 

Setanis SesaZlebloba, TavianTi 

xma gayidon 10, 20, Tu 50 

larze an 5 kilogram kartofilze. 

aq mTavari damnaSave biZina ivaniSvilia, 

romelic, diax, dahpirda 

moqalaqeebs: socialuri daxmarebis 

gazrdas, uprocento sesxebs 

da a. S., yvelanairi dapireba iyo, 

magaliTad, zRvispira qalaqebSi 

xelovnuri rujis aparatebis darigebasac 

ki hpirdeboda xalxs. 

winasaarCevnod absurdamde misuli 

dapirebebis nusxa hqonda. Semdgom, 

rogorc mas sCvevia, xalxi moatyua 

da am dapirebebis Sesrulebis nacvlad 

gadawyvita planis plantaciebis 

moSeneba, saerTaSoriso bazarze 

gayidva da amiT Tavis miliardian 

qonebaze kidev meti kapitalis 

damateba. am SemTxvevaSi pasuxismgebloba 

namdvilad xelisuflebaze 

da ivaniSvilzea, vidre 

Cveulebriv moqalaqeze, romelsac 

SeiZleba, im momentSi sxva gamosavali 

ar hqondes. 

_ bolo periodSi wina planze 

wamovida mmarTvel gundSi arse- 

buli krizisi. amis paralelurad, 

TiTqos, opozicia pasiuri gaxda 

da mosazreba gaCnda, rom opozicia 

daibna. verc opoziciis kon- 

solidacia vnaxeT, Tqven rogor 

axsniT amas? 

_ mmarTvel gundSi mimdinare 

procesebi mniSvnelovania da mediis 

didi yuradRebac eTmoba, _ 

radgan aris sazogadoebrivi interesi, 

mediam mas unda upasuxos. 

is, rom opoziciis konsolidacia 

umniSvnelovanesia, amaze didi 

xania, vsaubrobT. es aCvena Tundac 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 

saprezidento arCevnebma, rodesac 

SevZeliT gaerTianebuli opoziciis 

formatis Seqmna, romelmac saqarTvelos 

uaxles istoriaSi, uprecedento 

gayalbebis miuxedavad, 

SeZlo, rom Zalian seriozuli 

Sedegi daedo. 800 aTasi xma aris 

imaze meti, vidre „qarTulma ocnebam“ 

aiRo 2016 wlis arCevnebze, 

riTac parlamentSi sakonstitucio 

umravlesoba moipova. arada, 

warmatebas mivaRwieT imis fonze, 

rom arCevnebze mosyidva da daSineba 

xdeboda, realurad arCevnebs 

susi atarebda; sajaro moxeleebi 

zewolis qveS iyvnen, maT Soris saganmanaTleblo 

seqtorSi dasaqmebulebi, 

_ erT SemTxvevaze fataluri 

Sedegic ki dadga, _ zugdidis 

me-6 sajaro skolis direqtor 

ia kerzaiaze vsaubrob. arCevnebis 

Semdgom periodSi aseve mniSvnelovani 

iniciativebi iyo, maT Soris, 

sakonstitucio cvlilebis moTxovniT 

parlamentSi sainiciativo 

jgufi daregistrirda, romelsac 

20-ma politikurma subieqtma moawera 

xeli, _ Zalian gansxvavebuli 

politikuri mosazrebebisa da 

poziciebis partiebma. esec mniSvnelovani 

konsolidaciaa. axla saubaria 

imaze, rom Sualedur ar- 

CevnebSic moxdes garkveuli konsolidacia 

sxvadasxva opoziciur 

Zalas Soris. pirdapir minda giTxraT, 

rom Cven konsultaciebs vawarmoebT, 

raTa opoziciurma kandidatebma 

erTmaneTs xmebi ar waarTvan, 

Tundac zugdidsa da mTawmindaze. 

maqsimalurad unda movaxdinoT 

konsolidacia yvela im politikuri 

Zalis, romelsac ivaniSvilis 

gastumreba unda, aseve surs 

normaluri, kompetenturi mTavroba 

da ara erTi kacis mier saku- 

Tari finansuri interesebiT mar- 

Tuli qveyana. is, rom „qarTul ocnebaSi“ 

rRveva midis, ra Tqma unda, 

opoziciis gaZlierebis damsaxurebaa. 

aseve imis damsaxureba, rom 

saprezidento arCevnebze ivaniSvilma 

aseTi katastrofuli Sedegi 

dado an Tundac pirdapir xelis 

gadagrexiT mouwia am arCevnebis 

moparva, ramac saerTaSoriso sadamkvirveblo 

organizaciebis aseTi 

mZime daskvnebi gamoiwvia. am yvelaferma 

krizisSi Seiyvana xelisufleba: 

ministrebi midian, sakonstitucio 

umravlesoba iSleba, 

ivaniSvils aSantaJeben da a. S. ase 

rom, es bunebrivad da TavisTavad 

ar xdeba, jansaRi aqtiuri, kritikuli 

da kompetenturi opozicia, 

ra Tqma unda, Tavis rols TamaSobs. 

ivaniSvilis survili ki 

opoziciis gaqroba da sakuTari 

fsevdoopoziciis Seqmnaa. es man 

sajarodac Tqva: me TviTon Sevqmni 

Cems opoziciaso. ase ar imarTeba 

demokratiuli qveynebi, es ver 

gaigo am adamianma. roca qveyanaSi 

jansaRi, kritikuli opoziciaa, es 

xelisuflebas im TvalsazrisiT 

adgeba, rom sakuTari Secdomis 

droulad gamosworebis saSualebas 

aZlevs da ar Sedis im Rrma krizisSi, 

rogorSic axla Sevida ivaniSvili 

sakuTari aranormaluri, 

oligarqiuli stilidan gamomdinare. 

_ RaribaSvilis dabrunebis 

erT-erT mizezad moiazreba is, 

rom man gaaaqtiuros „ara nacebs, 

ara miSas“, propaganda, amis sapir- 

woned ras dadebs „nacionaluri 

moZraoba“? 

_ sapirwoned gvaqvs is, rom Cven 

aravisgan vapirebT mtris xatis 

Seqmnas. Cven vapirebT Cveni moqalaqeebis 

problemebis mogvarebas. 

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ufro wuxdes mis opoziciaze, vidre 

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fulis darigebas hpirdeboda 

xalxs, dRes sruli gulgrilobiT 

uyurebs imas, rom bavSvebi 

jarTis Segrovebis dros iRupebian. 

yovel me-3 pensioners bankidan 

winaswar gamoaqvs pensia, rom SimSiliT 

ar mokvdes. adamianebi afTiaqebSi 

Sedian da maTTvis sasicocxlod 

saWiro medikamentebs ver 

`wulukiani aris `qarTuli 

ocnebisa~ da ivaniSvilis 

yvelaze binZuri saqmeebis, 

saidumloebebis Tanamonawile 

da Sesabamisad, informacias 

flobs am binZur saqmeebze. 

magaliTad, rogor "dalagda" 

"rusTavi 2-is" saqme, aseve haagis 

Tema, romelic ivaniSvilisTvis 

umniSvnelovanesia~ 

yiduloben _ amas unda SevebrZoloT 

Cven da aucileblad SevebrZolebiT 

kidec. darwmunebuli var, 

Tu vadamdeli saparlamento arCevnebiT 

ara, 2020 wlis arCevnebSi 

xelisuflebas aiRebs profesionali, 

normaluri adamianebis gundi. 

_ vadamdeli saparlamento 

arCevnebi axseneT. vadamdeli arC- 

evnebs azri ar eqneba, Tu saarC- 

evno sistema ar Seicvala. saarC- 

evno sistemis Secvlis moTxovniT 

opozicia xelmowerebs agrovebs, 

Tumca ramdenad wamogyvebaT am 

daTmobaze mmarTveli gundi? re- 

alurad, proporciuli sistema 

yvelaze naklebad maT awyobT. 

_ xelisuflebas mouwevs saku- 

Tari asi aTasobiT Tanamoqalaqis 

azris gaTvaliswineba. am TamaSis 

wesebiT, romliTac ivaniSvils 

SeuZlia 75 mandati iyidos, arCevnebis 

Catarebas azri ar aqvs da 

romc daniSnon aseTi arCevnebi, ar 

mgonia, rom vinmes monawileobis 

survili gauCndes. es TamaSis wesebi 

unda Seicvalos. sakonstitucio 

cvlileba unda miviRoT, rac 

SesaZlebelia umravlesobis politikuri 

nebis arsebobis pirobebSi 

3/5-is mxardaWeris SemTxvevaSi. am 

cvlilebebis miRebis Semdeg unda 

CavataroT arCevnebi. rac Seexeba 

xelisuflebis resurss, vadamdeli 

iqneba Tu aravadamdeli, xelisufleba 

Tavis resurss yovelTvis 

gamoiyenebs, daareketebs bizness 

da sakuTari saarCevo fondisTvis 

Tanxas moipovebs, mainc gamoiyenebs 

administraciul resurss, mainc 

gamoiyenebs suss adamianebis dasaSantaJeblad 

da ecdeba, amiT Secvalos 

balansi Tavis sasikeTod. mTavaria, 

rom xelisuflebas TamaSis 

wesebi SevacvlevinoT, anu iyos 

srulad proporciuli sistema da 

maSin opozicia mzad iqneba kidevac, 

rom Sevides am brZolaSi da 

gaimarjvos. 

_ bevri visaubreT ivaniSvilsa 

da mis avtoritetze gundis SigniT, 

rom ministri ukve sajarodac 

aSantaJebs mas. axla saakaSvi- 

lis rolze minda gkiTxoT: sapre- 

zidento arCevnebis dros saubrobdnen, 

rom misi faqtori uaryofiTad 

moqmedebda gaerTianebu- 

li opoziciis reitingze, Tqven 

rogor xedavT saakaSvilis rols? 

_ ivaniSvils Zalian surs, rom 

ramenairad daamkvidros es mosazreba, 

radgan is mTavar mtrad, 

politikur oponentad aRiqvams 

swored mixeil saakaSvils. amas ivaniSvili 

ar malavs arc sajaro da 

arc pirad saubrebSi. maxsovs, jer 

kidev, 2012 wels, rodesac is premieris 

rangSi estumra evrosabWos 

saparlamento asambleas, piradad, 

maT Soris, mec zustad igive gamimeora, 

rasac ambobda sajarod, rom 

misTvis problema ar aris bokuCava 

an nebismieri sxva politikosis 

ritorika, aramed misTvis mTavaria, 

rom Cven gavemijnoT mixeil 

saakaSvils. zustad es terminologia 

hqonda mas. anu es adamiani mTavar 

safrTxed aRiqvams mixeil saakaSvils, 

Sesabamisad, maqsimalurad 

cdilobs mis da misi memkvidreobis 

demonizacias. es aris mTavari 

politikuri strategia, romelic 

ivaniSvilma airCia. rogorc Cans, 

Tqvenc Tavad aRniSneT, rom RaribaSvilis 

dabrunebac erTgvarad 

amas ukavSirdeba, rom mixeil saaka- 

Svilisa da „erTiani nacionaluri 

moZraobis“ demonizacia moxdes. 

saprezidento arCevnebma aCvena, 

rom es aRar muSaobs. xalxi daiRala 

mudmivad warsulze saubriT. 

mas surT, rom dRevandeli mocemuloba 

Seicvalos. xalxs surs, rom 

is mZime pirobebi, raSic Cveni mosaxleobis 

umravlesoba cxovrobs, 

gaumjobesdes. amas ivaniSvili verasdros 

waarTmevs verc mixeil 

saakaSvils, verc „nacionalur 

moZraobas“ da verc rigiT wevrs, 

romelic emsaxureboda Tavis qveyanas 

2003 wlidan 2012 wlamde. Cveni 

qveyana msoflio rukaze dafiqsirda, 

rogorc saxelmwifo, Camoyalibda 

saxelmwifo institutebi, 

korufcia aRmoifxvra, samagali- 

To qveyana viyaviT reformebis 

mxriv absoluturad yvela saerTa- 

Soriso kvlevisa da reitingis mixedviT, 

biujeti gaizarda 10-jer, 

qveyana realurad gardaiqmna _ 

amas ivaniSvili adamianebis cnobierebidan 

ver amoiRebs, ver Secvlis 

da ver gadawers istorias, ramdeni 

moSe klughaftic ar unda daiqiravos 

da ramdeni asi aTasi laric 

ar unda amoacalos saqarTvelos 

moqalaqeebs jibidan gadasaxadebis 

gadaxdili fuliT da Cados 

am binZur piarSi, iqneba es moSe 

klughaftis saxiT Tu „trolebis“ 

saxiT, romlebic xan „nacionalur 

moZraobas“, xan „Tibisis“ da nebismier 

adamians Tu organizacias 

ebrZvian, romelic gabedavs da 

raime gansxvavebuls gaifiqrebs an 

ityvis, rac Seexeba samomavlo gegmebs, 

ukve aRvniSne, Zalian mniSvnelovania 

opoziciis konsolidacia. 

am adamianis xelSi Cveni qveyana 

win ver wava, mxolod regresia 

SesaZlebeli, masTan erTad verasdros 

gavxdebiT natosa da evrokavSiris 

wevri, verasdros SevZlebT, 

rom biurokratebi ar xelmZRvanelobdnen 

sakuTari gamdidrebis 

interesidan gamomdinare, aramed 

qveynis ganviTarebis interesidan. 

am adamians aseTi marTvis stili 

aqvs, uxeSad da martivad rom vTqvaT, 

90-iani wlebis ruseTSi ase 

iSoveboda fuli da mas hgonia, rom 

ase unda imarTebodes qveyana. yvelaferi 

droebiT gverdiT unda 

gadavdoT da sxvadasxva formiT 

konsolidacia movaxdinoT. Sei- 

Zleba yvela partia erTi saarCevno 

koaliciis qveS ar gaerTiandes, 

magram zogadi erToba, konsolidacia, 

fragmentaciisgan Tavis arideba 

nebismier fasad unda Sev- 

ZloT, Tu gvaqvs saerTo interesi. 

saWiroa Tematuri gaerTianebebi 

Tundac iseTi tipis, rogorsac 

vxedavT xelmowerebis irgvliv. aseTi 

sinergiuli moqmedebebiT da 

energiiT unda SevZloT da aucileblad 

SevZlebT ivaniSvilis xelisuflebidan 

gastumrebas. 

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`Sida kuluaruli mdgomareoba 

„qarTuli ocnebis” mxardamW- 

„qarTuli ocnebis” mxardamW- 


eri arc aqamde yofila, magram 

aseTi gabrazebuli gigla baram- 

iZe, piradad me, arasodes minaxavs. ram gaabraza gamocdili 

politikosi? _ amas winamdebare interviudan SeityobT. „qronika+~-s 

batonma giglam aseve ramdenime skandaluri da sain- 

teresoze saintereso informaciac miawoda da aqve biZina 

ivaniSvils mefe liris bedi uwinaswarmetyvela. 

maS, ase! gTavazobT gigla 

baramiZesTan saubris stenog- 

rafiul Canawers: 

_ batono gigla, erTmaneTs 

bolos saprezidento kampaniis 

dros vesaubreT. mas mere aTas 

wyals ar Cauvlia, magram viTare- 

ba mainc Seicvala _ axali prezi- 

denti gvyavs, amasTan, mmarTveli 

gundi daSlis pirasaa. Tqveni Sef- 

asebiT, qarTul politikaSi ra 

xdeba? 

_ qarTul politikaSi Cveulebrivi 

mdabio, provinciuli ajafsandalia! 

_ da es politikuri kerZi, 

mainc, rogoria? 

_ zogadad, qarTvelebs, dadebiTTan 

erTad, uaryofiTic gvaxasiaTebs 

da amas istoriac mowmobs. 

dResac asea _ qarTvelebs liqni, 

pirferoba da TviTkritikis unaris 

arqona Semogvepara! marto politikosebi 

ki ara, ojaxebSic ki 

imaze ar saubroben, rac realurad 

aris, aramed, imas amboben, rac undaT, 

rom iyos. es gansakuTrebiT 

xelisuflebas exeba _ oRond stomaqi 

amoivsos da yvelaferze midis! 

diax, xelisufleba saqarTvelos 

SigniT da gareT arsebul realur 

mdgomareobaze ki ar akeTebs 

aqcents, aramed imas da ise saubrobs, 

rogorc mas awyobs. samwuxarod, 

qarTuli sazogadoebis 

nawili ise gaeSmakda, rom yvelafer 

amas fexs uwyobs da imis mixedviT 

saubrobs politikur Zalebze, 

pirovnebebsa da procesebze, rogorc 

mis pirad keTildReobas awyobs! 

mokled, dRes saqarTveloSi saxelmwifoebrivi 

xedva ar arsebobs 

da viRac imitom ki ar moswonT, 

rom saqmis gamkeTebelia, aramed, 

imitom, rom masSi pirad interesebs 

xedaven! 

_ es Sefaseba marto xelisu- 

flebasa da mis mxardamWerebze 

vrceldeba Tu opoziciasa da mis 

mimdevrebzec igive azris xarT, 

batono gigla? 

_ es Sefaseba opoziciis did 

nawilzec vrceldeba. saerTod, 

iciT, rogor aris? _ ar minda, xelisufleba, 

opozicia da sazogadoebis 

didi nawili erTmaneTisgan 

gamovyo imitom, rom yvela erTmaneTs 

daemsgavsa, Tumca, ra Tqma unda, 

gamonaklisebic arian, romlebic 

yvelafers Tavis saxels arqmeven, 

Tumca, ZiriTadad, mainc liqni 

da TamaSia. „feisbuqis” lomebi 

rom arian, mamrebi da mdedrebi, 

yvelafers ifxrewen, magram saqme 

saqmeze rom midgeba, quCaSi ar gamovlen 

da arafers gaaprotesteben, 

vaime, foToli ar Camovardes da 

ar dagveceso. 

erTi sityviT, aseTi monuri 

fsiqika Camoyalibda da iciT, monuri 

fsiqika rogoria? 

_ rogori? 

_ mona ganTavisuflebaze ki ara, 

imaze ocnebobs, rom monebi Tavad 

hyavdes! es stereotipi aTwleulebia, 

Camoyalibda, Tumca gansakuT- 

18 

rebiT bolo dros gamoCnda da am 

Targzea moWrili rogorc saxedakarguli, 

umsgavso da sicvednemde 

misuli xelisufleba, aseve 

opoziciuri Zalebis nawilic, romelic 

yvelafers imis mixedviT ki 

ar afasebs, qveyanas ra sWirdeba, 

aramed situaciis mixedviT! 

_ batono gigla, raRa dagimal- 

oT da, Zalian pesimistur suraTs 

xatavT, Tumca obieqturobisTvis, 

modiT, vTqvaT, rom yvelafer ama- 

Si damnaSaveni, albaT, konkretu- 

li pirovnebebi arian, radgan 

igive sazogadoebas konkretuli 

subieqtebi qmnian. SegiZliaT, im 

adamianis gvari damisaxeloT, vinc 

xalxs morCilebis meinstrims 

aZlevs da monobisken ubiZgebs? 

_ aqamdec mival, magram sazogadoeba, 

romelic uRirs xelisuflebas 

irCevs, msxverpli ki ara, 

uRirsi xelisuflebis Tanamonawilea! 

xelisufleba erTxel, orjer 

rom mogatyuebs, mesamed ki 

saxeSi SegafurTxebs, magram mainc 

mzad xar, xmebis micemis sanacvlod 

mieyido, e. i., Sen, rogorc amomrCeveli, 

Taxsiri xelisuflebis 

qmedebebze pasuxismgebeli xar! 

mekiTxebiT, yvelafer amaSi damnaSave 

vin ariso? modiT, vTqvaT, 

Tu ra aris saxelmwifo. 

_ ki batono, vTqvaT. 

_ saxelmwifo aris organo, romelic 

sazogadoebas warmarTavs. 

saxelmwifos TavSi uwesrigobaa 

da, bunebrivia, misi daqvemdebarebuli 

struqturebic degradirebulia. 

aqamde saubari monarqiis aRdgenaze 

iyo, axla bagrationebis 

warmomadgenlebi erTmaneTs Wamen. 

yvelafer amaze mecineba. 

_ ratom? 

_ batonebo, bagrationebi raSi 

gWirdebaT? ra, didi xania, saqarTveloSi 

mefe ar gvizis?! gana, im 

erTi miliarderis gareSe politikuri, 

socialuri, ekonomikuri Tu 

saWorao dRis wesrigi dgeba?! diax, 

yvelaferi am erTi adamianisgan 

modis _ ra awyobs, ra ar awyobs. 

saqarTveloSi patronymuri (yma, am 

SemTxvevaSi, rogorc mona) sistema 

Camoyalibda da amaSi mTel saxelisuflebo 

vertikals vgulisxmob 

_ aRmasruleblidan dawyebuli, 

sasamarTloTi damTavrebuli. 

es patronymuri sistema bolo 

dReebamde or ZiriTad rames efuZneboda: 

patronisadmi, anu miliarderisadmi 

SiSis grZnobas da meore 

_ simdidris wvdomasa da siyvaruls. 

dRes am miliarderis mimarT 

SiSis grZnoba, praqtikulad, aRar 

aris, simdidris grZnobis gamoc 

Tavs ar iklaven imitom, rom maTi 

patroni Zalian sustad aris da 

aravis unda, politikur samareSi 

Cahyves! maT am 6-7 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

sakmarisi Tanxa iSoves saimisod, 

Tavi rom gaitanon, Zalian kargad 

iyvnen da axla erTi suli aqvT, 

rogorme gamoeridon da axal 

politikur meinstrims ahyvnen! 

_ rogorc vxvdebi, ivaniSvil- 

sa da misgan gamijnulebze saubr- 

òcneba~ 

didi, 

epoqaluri 

tyuili 

iyo~ 

obT, ara? 

_ marto maT ar vgulisxmob, 

romlebic ramdenime dRis win gaemijnen. 

_ aba, kidev visze gaqvT aqcen- 

ti? 

_ yvelaze, vinc samsaxurebSi 

arian da ivaniSvils sabotaJs uwyoben 

_ aRarafers akeTeben da er- 

Ti suli aqvT, mas rogorme gaemijnon! 

_ ratom gamoricxavT, rom am 

adamianebisgan gamijvnas Tavad 

ivaniSvili cdilobdes? 

_ jer erTi, es ar Cans. meorec, 

erTma garemoebam ar unda mogvatyuos. 

_ kerZod, romelma garemoebam? 

_ Sida kuluaruli mdgomareoba 

Zalian kargad vici, anu erTi 

Tvis win iq arsebobda aseTi ganwyoba: 

Svidi-rva partia damoukideblad 

unda CamovayaliboT, rom 

parlamentSi „nacebis”, „ocnebisa” 

da „evronacebis” garda sxvac iyos, 

magram es Svidive Tu rvave partia 

Cven unda vakontroloT da veRaravin 

gvetyvis, arademokratiuli 

da erTpartiuli mmarTvelobaao, 

magram mas Semdeg, rac win uvado 

mosamarTleebis sakiTxi wamovida, 

rRveva daiwyo da visac CaZiruli 

gemidan Tavis Svela undoda, es 

sakiTxi Tavisi droSisTvis Zalian 

kargad gamoiyena. maTi iqidan wamosvlis 

realuri mizezebi SeiZleba, 

sxva rame iyo. 

_ ra? 

_ axla amaze saubari ar minda. 

yvelam yvelaferi isedac Zalian 

kargad viciT. 

_ diax, viciT da sazogadoebis 

umravlesobas eWvi arc imaSi 

epareba, rom igive daviT maRraZe, 

romelic, sxvaTa Soris, ivaniSvi- 

lis sayvareli poetia da amis Sesaxeb 

miliarders Tavad aqvs naTq- 

vami, opoziciaSi im „brZen kacTan” 

SeTanxmebis gareSe midiodes... 

_ SeiZleba iTqvas, rom me da 

daTo maRraZe megobrebi varT _ 

erTmaneTs yoveldRe ar vxvdebiT, 

magram erT ubanSi vcxovrobdiT, 

mSoblebTan urTierToba gvqonda 

da kontaqti akademiuri wridanac 

gvaqvs. simarTle giTxraT, am sakiTxze 

daTo maRraZesTan ar misaubria, 

Tumca is, rasac vambob, mas 

ar exeba. 

_ aba, vis exeba? 

_ im adamianebs, romlebic 

parlamentsa Tu mis gareT arian da 

miliarderTan dakavSirebiT is 

realoba, razedac dRes saubroben, 

ratomRac meSvide wlis dasawyis- 

Si SeniSnes. 

_ gamodis, rom eka beselias 

„artyamT”, batono gigla, ara? 

_ aravis „vartyam”. amas zogadad 

vambob. 

rac Seexeba eka beselias, sjobs 

gvian, vidre arasdros, magram igive 

am deputatebTan SekiTxvebi 

maqvs. 

_ mainc, ra SekiTxvebi? 

_ roca, magaliTad, antidis- 

raze esaubra 

gardacvalebamde 

cota xniT adre 

badri patarkaciSvili 

gigla baramiZes?.. _ 

konfidencialuri 

urTierTobis detalebi 

kriminaciul kanons iRebdnen an 

roca narkotikebis legalizebaze, 

korufciasa da saydrisis afeTqebaze 

iyo saubari, roca „omegas” 

daxurvis sakiTxi idga da telekompania 

„iberia” dRemde ar mauwyeblobs, 

dRes gaopozicionerebul 

deputatebs geZinaT Tu xmas ratom 

ar iRebdiT? zogierTis mimarT simpaTia 

maqvs, zogs ar vicnob, magram 

es kiTxvebi bunebrivad Cndeba! 

_ geTanxmebiT, rom kiTxvebi 

bunebrivad Cndeba, magram am kiTxvebze 

pasuxebi, yovel SemTxveva- 

Si, argumentirebuli, ar arse- 

bobs. 

ise, garkveuli kiTxvebi Tqven- 

Tan dakavSirebiTac Cndeba, anu 

xelisuflebas mwvaved akritikebT 

da viRac aucileblad ityvis, es is 

baramiZe ar aris, „nacionalebis” 

mmarTvelobis dros, 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi, 

saqarTveloSi rom ver 

Camodioda, samSobloSi „ocnebis” 

dros dabrunda da axla ratom 

akritikebso? 

_ saqarTveloSi dabrunebis 

Semdeg pirveli, rac gavakeTe, is 

iyo, rom ivaniSvils Cemi keTil- 

ganwyoba SevuTvale, magram ivani- 

Svilamde imis winapiroba, rom „na- 

cionalebi” wasuliyvnen, 2011 

wlis 26 maisi iyo da maSin is politikuri 

Zala aqtiurobda, sa- 

dac var. 

amas garda, ar miyvars „xeli 

xels hbans” principi, anu raxan Sen 

es gaakeTe, me unda mogefero. sxvaTa 

Soris, 2013 wlidanve opozicioneri 

var da iciT, ratom? 

_ ar vici, ratom? 

_ imitom, rom is idealebi, rac 

„ocnebas” hqonda, fexqveSaa gadebuli 

da 2013 wlis saprezidento 

arCevnebidan kritika daviwyeT _ 

saqarTveloSi „ocneba” megona da 

aq Camosuls isev „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” damxvda. amitom dRevandeli, 

am viTom, opozicionerebisgan 

gansxvavebiT, „qarTul ocnebasTan” 

erTi wamic ar miTanam- 

Sromlia. 

_ albaT, imitom ar giTanam- 

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Zalian kargad vici~ 

SromliaT, rom „ocnebam” ar mi- 

giRoT. 

_ miRebis survili arc mqonda. 

ubralod, mindoda, „qarTuli ocneba” 

is yofiliyo, ris gamoc 

qarTulma mosaxleobam xma misca, 

magram lamis pirvelsave dRes kohabitacia 

gamoacxades da is mosamarTleebi 

Tu prokurorebi, romlebic 

9 weli dagvdevdnen, gverdiT 

daisves! maSinve mivxvdi rom 

„ocneba” didi, epoqaluri tyuili 

iyo da im wamidan jer zomier, Semdeg 

ki mkveTr opozicionerad viqeci. 

eseni, yvelani erTad aRebulni, 

maSin sad iyvnen? saxedakargul 

„ocnebasTan” erTi dRec ar miTanamSromlia, 

arada, Tavidan megona, 

rom is iyo, risTvisac asi aTasobiT 

adamiani Tavs iklavda da, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom saqarTveloSi 

ar viyavi, „ocnebis” gamarjvebas 

mec didi sixaruliT mivegebe! „ocneba”, 

Turme, saxeSecvlili „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” yofila, im dRidan 

Cemi opozicioneroba daiwyo 

da ai, aqamde movediT. zogierTi ki 

Svidi wlis mere mixvda, rom „qarTuli 

ocneba”, Turme, araswor gzas 

adgas! 

sxvaTa Soris, am adamianebma 

„ocnebidan” bevri sikeTe miiRes! 

_ „ocnebis” paralelurad, „nacionalur 

moZraobasac” akritikebT. 

amasTan, axlaxan gancxadeba 

badri patarkaciSvilTan dakav- 

SirebiTac gaakeTeT da TqviT, is 

gvarebi vici, vinc badris uRal- 

atao. hoda, es gvarebi unda 

miTxraT, batono gigla! 

_ ki batono, magram jer imas getyviT, 

rom Cveni miliarderis, biZina 

ivaniSvilis yvelaze didi ZirgamomTxreli 

igive biZina ivaniSvilia! 

_ es rogor? 

_ ivaniSvilma uamravi araswori 

nabiji gadadga. is sakuTar Tavs 

ebrZvis, anu, erTi mxriv, mecenati 

kacia, romelmac kulturisa da 

qvelmoqmedebis kuTxiT iRvawa; meore 

mxriv ki aris kaci, romelic 

yvelafer amas anadgurebs, anu 

kacs, romelsac uzarmazari avtoriteti 

hqonda, axla es avtoriteti 

nuls qvemoTaa. 

saerTod, Ralati ar miyvars da 

ar msiamovnebs, roca wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

erT adamianTan dgaxar 

da mere, uceb, aRmoaCen, rom es is 

ar aris, rac gegona. es qalsac exeba, 

kacsac, deputatsac, biznesinteligenciis 

warmomadgenlebsac 

da im mrCevlebsac, biZinas rom axvevian. 

amitom, SesaZloa, biZina ivaniSvili 

mefe liriviT eulad 

darCes da didi nawarmoebis _ „amo- 

`sazogadoeba, romelic uRirs xelisuflebas 

irCevs, msxverpli ki ara, uRirsi xelisuflebis 

Tanamonawilea! xelisufleba erTxel, orjer 

rom mogatyuebs, mesamed ki saxeSi 

SegafurTxebs, magram mainc mzad xar, xmebis 

micemis sanacvlod mieyido, e. i., Sen, rogorc 

amomrCeveli, Taxsiri xelisuflebis qmedebebze 

pasuxismgebeli xar!~ 

dis, naTdebas” personaJis, totias 

bedi gaiziaros! diax, misianebi daglejen! 

ai, swored am konteqstSi vaxsene 

badri patarkaciSvilic, romelTanac 

ar vmegobrobdi, Tumca 

bolo periodSi, mis gardacvalebamde 

ramdenime TviT adre, satelefono 

kavSiri mqonda. roca raRac 

gansakuTrebuli informaciebi unda 

gagvecvala, im qveyanaSi, sadac 

viyavi, CemTan misi warmomadgeneli 

modioda da Cems azrs vuwerdi 

xolme. 

_ dawera ra saWiro iyo? 

_ am Temebze telefoniT saubari 

ar SeiZleboda. ar vici, patarkaciSvili 

am azrebs iTvaliswinebda 

Tu ara. 

_ patarkaciSvilis warmomad- 

geneli, visac xvdebodiT xolme, 

vin iyo? 

_ misi axlobeli, simpaTiuri axalgazrda 

kaci iyo... mas ar vicnobdi, 

Tumca orjer Tu samjer Sevxvdi. 

_ qarTveli iyo? 

_ diax, diax, oRond sxva qveynebSi 

moRvaweobda. yovel SemTxvevaSi, 

ase gamecno. badri patarkaciSvili 

politikur sakiTxebze 

roca mesaubreboda, mivxvdi, rom 

Zalian gulnatkeni iyo, gansakuTrebiT 

imaze, rom uRalates. roca 

am sakiTxebze telefoniT mesaubreboda, 

vuTxari, es is Temebia, 

romlebzec telefoniT saubari ar 

SeiZleba, me ZebnaSi var da ver gadavaadgildebi-meTqi. 

miTxra, _ ma- 

Sin Cems uaxloes sando adamians 

gamogigzavni, romelsac SekiTxvebs 

Riad davuwer da Sen Seni mosazrebebi 

dawere da gamoatane. SegiZlia, 

SekiTxvebi Senc dawero da mec 

gipasuxebo. me xom viyavi da viyavi, 

magram badric bolos raRac daCagruliviT 

iyo. sxvaTa Soris, poezias 

Zalian kargad icnobda _ telefonSi 

ana axmatovasa da brodskis 

leqsebs citirebda xolme. 

hoda, roca vuTxari, saqarTveloSi 

politikuri elitisa da e. 

w. cnobadi saxeebis raRac seqta, 

klani Camoyalibda, romelsac nebismier 

gamocdil politikosze didi 

ynosva aqvs im TvalsazrisiT, 

Tu rodis unda mivides cnobil da 

Zlier adamianTan da rodis unda 

datovos-meTqi, am konteqstSi SevardnaZe 

da is adamianebi gavixsene, 

romlebic jer ambobdnen, SevardnaZe 

msoflio movlenaao, mere ki, 

roca ukve uZluri iyo, mkvdarsa 

da cocxals aginebdnen. ase iqceodnen 

gamsaxurdias da, sxvaTa Soris, 

saakaSvilis drosac. aseve ake- 

Tebdnen da iqceodnen patarkaciSvilis 

drosac. axlac, biZinas drosac 

asea. 

_ mokled, miTxariT, patarkaciSvils 

konkretulad vin uRal- 

ata? 

_ Suamavlis meSveobiT am adamianebis 

gvarebi Camomiwera. eseni 

arian politikosebi da is cnobili 

saxeebi, romlebic dResac yelyelaoben 

qarTul politikaSi, yofiT 

Tu socialur cxovrebaSi, aseve 

teleeTeridan TavianTi matrabazobiT 

da usircxvilobiT gvaxseneben 

Tavs! 

_ gvarebi damisaxeleT, gvare- 

bi, batono gigla! 

_ am gvarebs maSin vityvi, roca 

saWirod miviCnev... esemesebiTa da 

epistoleebiT saubari ar miyvars! 

sxvaTa Soris, patarkaciSvils 

vkiTxe, rame rom iyos, ufleba 

maqvs, rom es gvarebi davasaxelomeTqi? 

_ ra gipasuxaT? 

_ ki, gaqvs, magaTi ase da iseo, 

gradaciac ki gamikeTa, eg egeTi 

iyo da ar mwyins. ai, ameebisgan ki 

mwyins, radgan CaTvales, rom 

zurgSi dana Camartyeso. ki vuTxari, 

_ am xalxs rogor ende-meTqi? 

magram yvelaferi es misi problemebi 

iyo. 

_ kargi, gvarebs ar asaxelebT, 

magram is mainc TqviT, es adamianebi 

patarkaciSvilis garemocva- 

Si iyvnen? 

_ modiT, ase vityvi: masTan midiodnen 

da modiodnen. 

_ dRes „ocnebaSi” arian? 

_ „qarTul ocnebaSic” arian, 

sazogadoebaSic... 

_ e. i., patarkaciSvilma icoda, 

rom Ralatobdnen? 

_ ufro davakonkreteb: roca 

Riad saubari wavida, vuTxari, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom saqarTvelodan 

wasuli var, maqvs informacia, 

rom im adamianebis nawili, romelic 

SenTan londonSi Camodis da 

raRac kontaqti gaqvs, sando ar 

aris, me ase mgonia, magram Sen, albaT, 

Seni azri gaqvs-meTqi. mere, 

roca uRalates, yvelaferi Camomiwikwika 

da miTxra, _ netav, SenTvis 

momesminao. 

_ SeiZleba, vcdebi, magram 

rogorc maxsovs, patarkaciSvilTan 

londonSi goga xaindra- 

vac Cadioda xolme. 

_ ase zustad ar vityvi da ver 

vityvi. gogasTan axloblobda da 

konkretulad aravisze saubari ar 

minda, magram SeiZleba, movides 

dro da es faqti rom moxda, im 

axalgazrdamac daadasturos, romelic 

maSin CemTan modioda xolme. 

saerTod, qarTvelebs aseTi 

raRacebi gvaxasiaTebs, rac cudia 

da unda amovSanToT. qarTul realobas 

rom vuyureb, dResac igive 

meordeba, oRond _ sxva lozungebiT 

da guli mtkiva. sazogadoebis 

nawils ki, romelic gaTviTcnobierebuli 

ar aris, raRacis kidev 

sjera da am sakenks kenkavs. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, amboben, rom 

ivaniSvilsa da patarkaciSvils 

kargi urTierToba ar hqondaT. 

Tqveni azriT, saakaSvilsa da pa- 

tarkacSvils Soris viTarebis 

daZabvas ivaniSvilma xom ar Seuw- 

yo xeli? 

_ ivaniSvilTan urTierToba ar 

mqonia da verafers getyviT, magram 

faqtia, rom es kaci araordinaluri 

azrovnebisaa. 

_ SeiZleba, magram iqneb, kiTx- 

vaze mipasuxoT, _ ivaniSvilma xom 

ar Seuwyo xeli, rom saakaSvilisa 

da patarkaciSvilis urTierToba- 

Si bzari gaCeniliyo? 

_ aqeT mivdivar, anu ar gamovricxav, 

rom SeiZleba, esec iyo 

an ara, magram im dros ra scenarebi 

gaaTamaSa, ver getyviT. 

_ batono gigla, saubris 

dasawyisSi bagrationebi axseneT. 

istorias kargad icnobT da egeb, 

ganmartoT, bolos da bolos, 

samefo taxti bagrationebis rom- 

el Stos ekuTvnis da, zogadad, am 

ambavs politikur movlenebTan 

rame kavSiri aqvs? 

_ bagrationebi uzarmazari gvaria. 

metic, msoflioSi sul orisami 

gvaria, maT Soris, erTi bagrationia, 

romelsac mefobis ramdenime 

saukunovani dinastia hqonda. 

es CvenTvis saamayoa da imiTac unda 

viamayoT, rom bagrationebi uniWieresi 

adamianebi arian _ poetebi, 

mecnierebi, mefeebi, mTavarsardlebi, 

magram is, rac dRes xdeba, 

ar mikvirs, radgan, istoriulad, 

yofila SemTxvevebi, roca samefo 

taxtis gamo bagrationebi erTmaneTs 

Wamdnen, am sityvis pirdapiri 

gagebiT. amitom imaSi, rac dRes 

xdeba, gansakuTrebuls verafers 

vxedav. axla imaze ar vsaubrob, 

romeli marTalia da romeli _ 

mtyuani, me sxva ram gamikvirda. 

_ ra?.. 

_ Cveni koxtabzika sazogadoebisa 

da feisbuqlomebis ganwyoba 

mikvirs, deda, es ra xdebao?! 

weRanac giTxariT, ramdenime 

welia, saqarTveloSi mefe gvizis 

da ra gikvirT? dRes biZina ivaniSvils 

ufro meti ufleba aqvs, vidre 

qarTvel mefeebs hqondaT, 

Tavis droze. 

erT magaliTs eqskluziurad 

getyviT: Tu daviT aRmaSenebelsa 

da Tamar mefes gamovricxavT, biZina 

ivaniSvili Cvens mefeebze ufro 

did teritoriebs marTavs! diax, 

mcire gamonaklisis garda, bagrationebs 

gaerTianebuli saqar- 

Tvelo ar hqoniaT. hoda, raRa mefes 

eZeben? mefe ar gvyavs, aba, vin 

aris? uvado mosamarTleebi misgan 

arian, kanonebs misgan viRebT, yvelaferi 

misgan iwyeba da mTavrdeba. 

sazogadoebas veubnebi: iseTi 

cxovreba gvaqvs, rogoric avirCieT 

da Tu gvinda, es aRar ganmeordes, 

mravalpartiuli saarCevno 

sistemis cvlilebas mxari unda 

davuWiroT, Torem Tu mefe gindaT, 

adre bagrationi iyo, axla 

ivaniSvilia, oRond amas ufro meti 

ufleba aqvs! 

im sazogadoebaSi, romelic 

aitans da mousmens vinme oxanaSvilis 

Wkuis darigebas, avadmyofobis 

niSnebi SeiniSneba. zogadad, saukuneebis 

ganmavlobaSi erebs ase- 

Ti niSnebi uCndebaT xolme, magram 

is eri, romelic amas moereva, gadarCeba. 

is eri ki, romelic ambobs, 

me yvelaze magari da kargi var, 

rac xdeba, sxvisi braliao, aRar 

arsebobs! saqarTvelosac es rom 

ar daemarTos, mSromelebi unda 

viyoT, TviTkritikulebi, yvelafers 

Tavisi saxeli davarqvaT da 

rac mTavaria, nuravis miveyidebiT! 

`bagrationebi uzarmazari gvaria. metic, 

msoflioSi sul ori-sami gvaria, maT Soris, 

erTi bagrationia, romelsac mefobis ramdenime 

saukunovani dinastia hqonda. es CvenTvis 

saamayoa da imiTac unda viamayoT, rom 

bagrationebi uniWieresi adamianebi arian - 

poetebi, mecnierebi, mefeebi, mTavarsardlebi, 

magram is, rac dRes xdeba, ar mikvirs, radgan, 

istoriulad, yofila SemTxvevebi, roca samefo 

taxtis gamo bagrationebi erTmaneTs Wamdnen, am 

sityvis pirdapiri gagebiT. amitom imaSi, rac 

dRes xdeba, gansakuTrebuls verafers vxedav~ 

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10 marts axali politikuri partiis _ „kanoni da samarTalis” 

damfuZnebeli yriloba gaimarTa, romelmac Tavmjdomared pub- 

licisti Tamar Carkviani airCia. partiis generaluri mdivani 

irakli Rlonti gaxda, aRmasrulebeli mdivani, iuristi _ mix- 

eil ramiSvili, politikuri mdivnis Tanamdeboba ki axalgazrda 

advokatma da politikisTvis sruliad axalma saxem, giorgi 

cobexiam daikava. gamgeobis wevria qeTevan enuqiZe. axali parti- 

is damfuZnebel yrilobas uamravi adamiani eswreboda. stumris 

statusiT yrilobaze imyofebodnen gaerTianebuli opoziciis 

liderebi, aseve Svilmokluli mama malxaz maCalikaSvili. 

yrilobaze saubrisas, politikuri 

eqspertebi amboben, rom Tako 

Carkvianis politikaSi wasvliT 

qarTuli politikuri dRis wesrigi 

Seicvleba, anu axali partia, 

romelic aqcents e. w. feisebze ki 

ara, sruliad axal saxeebsa da axalgazrdebze 

akeTebs, realurad, 

gaxdeba is Zala, romelic „ocnebis” 

xelisuflebis SecvlaSi mniSvnelovan 

wvlils Seitans. 

imas, rom arsebuli xelisufleba 

aucileblad unda Seicvalos, 

qalbatoni Tako Carkvianic adasturebs 

da „qronika+”-s eubneba, rom 

misi partia koaliciur mTavrobaSi 

aucileblad iqneba warmodgenili. 

sxvaTa Soris, „kanoni da samar- 

Tali” gamoCnda Tu ara, „ocnebis” 

trolebic gaaqtiurdnen. „rusTavi 

2"-is mier gavrcelebuli informaciiT, 

koka yandiaSvilis „trolebis 

qarxnis” erT-erTi mTavari 

samizne swored Tako Carkviani iyo, 

Tumca Tavdasxmebis miuxedavad, 

axali partia da misi wevrebi ukan 

daxevas ar apireben da acxadeben, 

rom am qveyanaSi rusul korufciul 

sistemas erTxel da samudamod 

amoSanTaven. 

„qronika+~ gTavazobT intervi- 

us partia „kanoni da samarTalis” 

Tavmjdomare Tako CarkvianTan: 

_ qalbatono Tako, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom xelisufleba ar aRi- 

arebs, qveyanaSi politikuri kri- 

zisia. swored am dros iqmneba 

partia „kanoni da samarTali”, 

romlis Tavmjdomarec xarT. 

ras da rogor SecvliT? 

_ saxelidanve Cans, Tu ratom 

Seiqmna es partia. dRes saqarTveloSi 

kanoni uzenaesi ar aris da arc 

samarTalia, anu kanonisa da samarTlis 

deficitia. 

xom xedavT, sasamarTlo sistemaSi 

rogori katastrofuli vi- 

Tarebaa. 

korufciac, cxadia, imitom arsebobs, 

rom uzenaesi kanoni ar aris. 

korufciul qveyanaSi ki kanoni 

uzenaesi ver iqneba, ukanono qveyanaSi 

didi korufciaa, anu aseTi 

viTarebaa. Sesabamisad, Cvens partiaSi 

yoveldRiuri muSaoba midis 

da erT kviraSi, maqsimum, aT dRe- 

Si, antikorufciuli proeqti mzad 

gveqneba. 

_ am antikorufciul kanon- 

proeqts parlamentSi waradgenT? 


saerTod, Cven koaliciuri mTavroba 

gvinda. piradad mimaCnia, 

rom qveyana caitnotSia, wammzomi 

CarTulia da am xelisuflebis yoveli 

dRe imaze muSaobs, rom saqarTvelo 

ruseTTan pirispir darCes. 

eseni xmamaRla da pirdapir arasodes 

ityvian, ai, Cven ruseTi gvindao, 

magram saxelmwifo institutebs 

ise moSlian da evropas, aseve 

aSS-s ise mogvacileben, TavianTi 

trolebiT dasavleTis iseT diskreditacias 

da mosaxleobis dezinformacias 

axdenen, rom, praqtikulad, 

ruseTis pirispir davr- 

CebiT. 

amitom yoveli wuTi da wami mni- 

Svnelovania. 

sxvaTa Soris, partiis yrilobidan 

meore dRes saqarTveloSi 

aSS-s saelCos warmomadgenlebi 

dagvikavSirdnen. 

_ amerikel diplomatebs Sex- 

vdiT? 

_ diax. 

_ am Sexvedraze ris Sesaxeb 

isaubreT? 

_ dRevandel viTarebaze visaubreT, 

aseve Cvens strategiul 

xedvebsa da samomavlo urTierTobaze. 

_ roca sruliad axalgazrda 

partiasTan komunikacias amerike- 

li diplomatebi amyareben, es, 

TavisTavad, kargia, radgan aSS 

Cveni strategiuli partnioria, 

magram weRan troli axseneT. qal- 

batono Tako, rogorc cnobili 

gaxda, „ocnebis” trolebis erT- 

erTi mTavari samizne iyaviT. 

„qarTuli ocneba” Tqvenma 

politikaSi gamoCenam ratom Sea- 

SfoTa da aRaSfoTa? 

_ zogadad, intuicia arsebobs. 

vin-vin da, „qarTulma ocnebam” yvelaze 

kargad icis, rom me da Cemi 

Tanagundelebi, magaliTad, mixeil 

ramiSvili, irakli Rlonti, romlisTvisac 

saokupacio xazi sasicocxlod 

mniSvnelovania, aseve axalgazrda 

da Zalian gonieri biWi 

giorgi cobexia ideis garSemo 

varT gaerTianebulni. 

rac Seexeba trolebs, madloba 

RmerTs, rom saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi moqmedi 

sibinZuris _ nugzar fofxaZisa da 

misi bandis _ stu-kacebis trol- 

Ta qarxana dagvipirispirda. 

partia „kanoni da samarTali” 

cota xanSi fofxaZis „kartoTekas” 

Tako Carkviani: 

òcneba~ 100 qarxanas 

gvpirdeboda da, 

sinamdvileSi, 

`trolebis qarxana~ 

gagvikeTa!~ 

gaxsnis da is datovebs am qveyanas, 

gamwarebuli xalxi daatovebinebs! 

es ubedureba da sibinZure ver 

gaanadgurebs saqarTvelos! 

sakmarisia, ra zianic ukve miayena 

am daqiravebulma ucxo qveynis 

mosamsaxurem Cvens qveyanas! 

axla gadamwyveti brZolaa qveynisTvis! 

amitom magrad unda viyoT, 

„kanoniT da samarTliT” movereviT 

am axlad gacocxlebul sibinZures! 

„kanoni da samarTali” saqarTvelosTvisaa! 

diax, kanoni da samarTali swored 

fofxaZis bandas dasWirdeba, 

roca gamwarebuli da maT mier 

talaxSesxmuli xalxi gasamarTlebas 

daupirebs, swored maSin dasWirdebaT 

maT qveyanaSi kanoni da 

samarTali! 

magitom movdivarT, rom es 

garewrebi, romlebic saqarTvelos 

mravali welia, Zirs uTxrian, kanonis 

CarCoebSi movaqcioT! 

egeb, muSaobis dros cota mainc 

SeuyvardeT es qveyana! 

mTeli cxovreba am qveynis biujetiT 

an ucxo qveynidan sakuTari 

qveynis gayidvisTvis aRebuli fuliT 

cxovroben da erTxel qveynisTvisac 

iSromon. Sroma magaT- 

Tvis sasjelia da egeb, Sromis 

dros mainc SeuyvardeT saqarTvelo! 

hoda, erTad, didi gaerTianebiT 

unda SevcvaloT qveyanaSi arsebuli 

viTareba! 

sxvaTa Soris, trolebs axla 

eZaxian, Torem egeni adrec iyvnen 

da igive mamaCemis TaobaSi hyavdaT 

TavianTi patar-patara yandiaSvilebi... 

egeni Taobebs wamlavdnen da 

Cvens mSoblebs infarqtebs mar- 

Tebden! 

maxsovs, mama Tamam leqss rom 

dawerda, aTi dRis Semdeg sadRac 

gazeT „komunistSi” an sxvagan mosaTxreli 

werili qveyndeboda xolme. 

gjeraT, rom 70-ian wlebsa da 

80-ianebSic „komunistSi” werili 

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20 N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w.

ise dabeWdiliyo, rom zemodan ar 

yofiliyo gakontrolebuli? 

eseni Worebis profesionalebi 

arian! maT Zalian didi xania vuyureb 

da gadavwyvite, bolomde mivyve! 

bolos da bolos, vinmem xom 

unda gamoucxados brZola da im 

mravalTagan erT-erTi viqnebi, 

visac unda, rom es ubinZuresi 

brigada damTavrdes! 

zogi maT saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg 

„mexuTe kolonas” eZaxis, magram 

es nugzar fofxaZis sibinZuris 

namdvili bandaa, romelic pirdapir 

saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg mu- 

Saobs! 

es is kacia, romelic 1989 wlis 

9 aprils momitinge axalgazrdebis 

daxvretas iTxovda! 

mas zviad gamsaxurdiac pirdapir 

adebda xels! 

SeiZleba, adamianebamde informacia 

xandaxan gvian midis, magram 

am qveyanze dafaruli araferia da 

mTelma saqarTvelom ukve icis, 

rom es adamianebi TiTiT saCveneblebi 

arian! 

ambiciad ar CamiTvaloT, magram 

Tu istorias gadavxedavT, cvlilebebs 

yovelTvis idealistebi axerxeben. 

im dRes vixumreT, Cven idealistTa 

gundi varTo da, diax, mar- 

Tlac asea. yovel SemTxvevaSi, me 

Cemi gulwrfelobiT, politikaSi 

politikosi Tako Carkviani ar mivsulvar. 

politikaSi Cemi gamoCena Cemi 

qveynis erT wreze 30-wlianma 

siarulma da wvalebam gamoiwvia. es 

nabiji iZulebiT gadavdgi. gana, 

marTla ra unda 3 milioni adamianis 

movlas da patronobas?! 

zogi mekiTxeba xolme, Tqven, ra, 

pozicia SeicvaleTo? 

ara, batonebo, me pozicia ar Semicvlia 

da myarad isev iq var, sadac 

viyavi! 

pozicia im adamianebma Seicvales, 

romlebic 2012 wels 100 qarxanas 

gvpirdebodnen da, sinamdvile- 

Si, „trolebis qarxana” gagvikeTes! 

pozicia maT Seicvales, romlebic 

sawarmoebs gvpirdebodnen da 

marixuanis sawarmo SemogvTavazes! 

pozicia maT Seicvales, romlebic 

pensiis gazrdas gvpirdebodnen 

da 180 larze datoves moxucebi! 

eseni moxucebs karg siberesac 

hpirdebodnen, magram am xalxis 

sibere jibeSi Caides da moxucebi 

gatyavebulebi datoves! 

„ocneba” imasac gvpirdeboda, 

emigrantebs davabrunebo, magram 

bolo monacemebiT, 2012 wlis Semdeg, 

saqarTvelodan emigraciaSi 

milioni adamiani wavida. 

qveyanaSi miwis regulaciebi ar 

arsebobs, am problemaze Zalian 

bevri welia vlaparakob da vambob, 

es sakiTxi Tu ar mogvarda, saqarTvelosTvis 

sabediswero aRmoCndeba-meTqi. 

amas winaT erTma Jurnalistma 

mkiTxa, _ qalbatono Tako, miwa ar 

unda gaiyidoso? Cven memarjvene, 

dasavluri veqtoris partia varT 

da ar vambobT, miwa ar unda gaiyidoso, 

magram saamisod regulaciebia 

saWiro, Torem warmogidgeniaT, 

Cveni samSoblo iafi da „orRia” 

gaxades! 

Tu Cvens miwas fass ar davadebT, 

sxvas es fasi rogor ecodineba? 

qveyanaSi investiciebi aRar xorcieldeba, 

saZovrebi mitovebulia. 

mokled, yvela mimarTulebiT 

katastrofuli mdgomareobaa, amitom 

Cemi qveynis winaaRmdeg sabotaJs 

vxedav. 

_ am sabotaJis mizani ra aris? 

_ roca miwis sakiTxebs gadavxede, 

iseTi stagnacia davinaxe, 

rom momeCvena, saqarTvelo gaauqmes-meTqi! 

diax, dRes Cemi qveyana gauqmebul 

mdgomareobaSia. amitom vibrZviT 

da yvelafers vakeTebT, 

rom momavali koaliciuri mTavrobisTvis 

sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani 

kanonpoeqtebi SevqmnaT. 

aqedan erT-erTi, rogorc giTxariT, 

antikorufciuli proeqtia, 

romelsac SejerebaRa sWirdeba. 

Cven regionuli ganviTarebis 

Zalian saintereso programac gvaqvs 

da mgonia, rom swori gziT 

mivdivarT! 

iciT, „kanonisa da samarTlis” 

vis eSinia? _ maT, vinc ukanonobis 

momxreebi arian da saqarTvelo 30 

welia, erT wreze dahyavT! sxvas 

„kanonis da samarTlis” aba, ratom 

unda eSinodes? 

Cven iseTi saxelmwifos Seqmna 

gvinda, sadac yvela kanonmorCili 

iqneba. aseTi saxelmwifo ki maSin 

aSendeba, roca sasamarTlo Tavisufali 

iqneba. magaliTad, mTavar 

prokurors opozicia airCevs. 

dRes ki qveyanaSi rusuli korufciuli 

marTvis stilia. 

swored im adamianebs, romlebsac 

undaT, rom saTaveSi murusiZeebi 

iyvnen, xeebi aqeT-iqiT aprowialon 

da saqarTvelo jibeSi Caidon, 

eSiniaT cvlilebebis, kanonis 

uzenaesobisa da samarTlianobis! 

am adamianebma xalxis fuli 

waiRes. viRac gamova da ityvis, ai, 

700 milionia waRebulio, magram 

amas aravin iZiebs. 

am situaciaSi adgnen da RaribaSvili 

moabrunes. feodalis amaze 

meti cinizmi raRa gindaT? 

imis gamo, rom garkveul adamianebs 

Tanamdebobebze niSnavs da 

fuls uxdis, danarCenma oTxma 

milionma qarTvelma madloba unda 


ìm adamianebs, romlebsac undaT, rom 

saTaveSi murusiZeebi iyvnen da xeebi 

aqeT-iqiT aprowialon, kanonis 

uzenaesobisa da samarTlianobis eSiniaT!~ 

vuTxraT? Tan xalxs, romelic 

damSeuli datova, eCxubeba, xmas 

ratom iRebo. 

_ partiuli saqmianoba, miT 

umetes, axali partiis aSeneba, rutinaa. 

saqarTveloSi uamravi par- 

tia arsebobs, maT Soris, iseTic, 

romelic opoziciur flangze 

warmatebulia. ar gerCiaT, axali 

partia ki ar SegeqmnaT, romelime 

arsebuli partiis saxe gamxdar- 

iyaviT? 

_ mesmis, rasac mekiTxebiT, magram 

Cveni partiis yrilobaze, 

mgoni, iyaviT da Tavad naxeT, 

xalxs „kanonis da samarTlis” mimarT 

rogori ndoba aqvs. 

Tavs moviklavT da xalxis am 

ndobas gavamarTlebT imitom, rom 

es gaerTianebisTvis brZolis bolo 

Sansia, anu axla es qveyana ar 

unda davTmoT da saxelmwifo instituciebi 

miwasTan ar unda gavasworoT! 

ruseTis vasalma gadawyvita, saqarTveloSi 

monarqi iyos da, rogorc 

feodalma, mTeli saqarTvelo 

jibeSi Caidos. Tu amis saSualebas 

mivcemT, Zalian sulelebi 

viqnebiT, magram piradad me Zalian 

Wkvian da magar saqarTvelos vicnob! 

_ saqarTveloSi partiebi aq- 

cents akeTeben, rogorc wesi, e. 

w. cnobad saxeebze _ momRerle- 

àraviTari burjanaZe _ 

Cveni msoflmxedveloba 

erTmaneTisgan 

radikalurad 

gansxvavdeba!~ 

bze, msaxiobebze, poetebsa Tu 

politikuri gamocdilebis mqone 

adamianebze, Tumca Tqvenma par- 

tiam es gza ar airCia. ratom? 

_ yrilobazec vTqvi da axlac 

gavimeoreb: yvela cnobil adamians 

venacvale _ zogis Tvalwin 

gavizarde, zogic Cemi bavSvobaa, 

magram iciT, ra xdeba? 

_ ra? 

_ mgonia, rom wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

es xalxi Zalian uxerxul 

mdgomareobaSia. 

_ ratom? 

_ rogorc giTxariT, 30 welia, 

qveyana erT wreze dadis da arCevnebis 

win sul am adamianebs iyeneben 

xolme. mere politikosebi 

dapirebebs ar asruleben da mosaxleoba 

im saxeebis mimarT, romlebic 

dapirebebze saubrobdnen, Riziandeba. 

amitom CavTvaleT, rom 

uxerxul mdgomareobaSi aravin 

unda Cagveyenebina! 

axla „feisebis” gamoCenis dro 

aRar aris _ isini 25-30 welia, 

politikaSi isedac Canan. CvenTan, 

partiaSi, umetesad iuristebi da 

ekonomistebi arian. konsultantebad 

ucxoelebi moviwvieT. 

mokled, swored amis gamo 

aravin Semiwuxebia, rom axal partiaSi 

politikur saxed gamoCeniliyo! 

es sworad ar mimaCnia da Cemi 

gundic dameTanxma. 

_ mas Semdeg, rac xelisufle- 

ba Seicvleba, aqtiur politikaSi 

darCebiT? 

_ es drois ambavia. jer mTavari 

xelisuflebis Secvalaa. Tu Semi- 

Zlia, rom Cemi qveynisTvis erTi 

aguri davdo, aucileblad davdeb! 

ver avitan, rom saqarTvelo maCan- 

Cla mdgomareobaSi iyos! 

Cems sicocxleSive unda veRirso, 

rom saqarTvelo did okeaneSi 

gavides! 

_ gava? 

_ diax, gava da mere, roca yvelaferi 

kargad iqneba, Cems Tavs 

dasvenebis uflebas aucileblad 

mivcem! 

_ qalbatono Tako, partiis 

damfuZnebel yrilobaze xazgasmiT 

aRniSneT, rom „kanoni da sa- 

marTali” prorusuli flangis 

garda, yvela politkur ZalasTan 

iTanamSromlebs. „ocnebidan” wa- 

mosulebi partias qmnian. maTTan 

iTanamSromlebT? 

_ maTi ar mjera! 

_ ratom ar gjeraT? 

_ murusiZeze axla yvirian, vaimeo, 

magram SarSan da SarSanwin 

igive murusiZis aRzevebaze xeli 

aqvT mowerili da maTi dRevandeli 

protesti xom sasaciloa? maTi 

opozicionerobis vinmes sjera? 

_ kidev erTi Tema, qalbatono 

Tako: im 20 partiis gaer- 

TianebasTan, romelic saarCevno 

sistemis Sesacvlelad milioni 

xelmoweris Segrovebas gegmavs, 

TanamSromlobas Tqveni partiac 

apirebs. am 20 partiaSi erT-erTi 

burjanaZis partiaa. Tqveni Tanam- 

Sromloba rogor gamova? 

_ iq, sadac nino burjanaZe iqneba, 

monawileobas arasodes miviReb, 

radgan Cvens partias misgan absoluturad 

gansxvavebuli platforma 

aqvs. qalbaton burjanaZes 

Riad aqvs gacxadebuli, rom unda, 

saqarTvelo marto darCes. es 

pirdapir ruseTis Semosvlas niSnavs. 

diax, yvelam icis, rom mas 

saqarTvelos rusul sivrceSi dabruneba 

surs! 

rac Seexeba milion xelmoweras, 

es xelmowerebi saarCevno sistemis 

Sesacvlelad grovdeba, Torem 

gaerTianebul opoziciaSic Cems 

poziciaze arian da araviTari burjanaZe 

_ Cveni msoflmxedveloba 

erTmaneTisgan radikalurad gansxvavdeba! 

_ bolo kiTxva: „kanoni da samar 

arTali” is mesame Zala iqneba, 

romelic realur cvlilebebs 

daudebs saTaves? 

_ aseTi danomrva ar miyvars, 

yvelaferi xalxzea damokidebuli. 

dRes xalxis mxridan ndobas 

vgrZnob da amiT bednieri var! 

xalxs arasodes vuRalatebT! 

_ ise, politikosis ampluaSi 

Tavs komfortulad grZnobT? 

_ simarTle giTxraT, Cemi cxovrebis 

wesi radikalurad Seicvala, 

magram roca gaWirvebul da 

gawvalebul xalxs vuyureb, amas 

Zalian ganvicdi. 

xelisuflebis absoluturi 

umoqmedobiT gaocebuli var, amitom 

iq unda movxvdeT, sadac xmis 

ufleba gveqneba da iseTi kanonebi 

gavides, romelic xalxsac uSvelis 

da qveyanasac! 

ai, swored aman gamoiwvia, rom 

Cveni partia koaliciur mTavroba- 

Si movides! 

saerTod, saqarTvelo nawilnawil 

verasodes verafers miaRwevs! 

mTavari gaerTianebaa, Torem 

sircxvilia, imas mSvidad vuyuroT, 

rac axla saqarTveloSi xdeba. Cven 

manqurTebi ar varT, es Cveni qveyanaa 

da am qveyanas Svela sWirdeba! 

_ warmatebebs gisurvebT, qal- 

batono Tako! 

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„qronika+“-is kiTxvebs pa- 

suxobs samoqalaqo moZraobis 

damfuZnebeli, aleko elisaS- 

vili: 

_ batono aleko, yvela kargad 

vxedavT, Tu rogor viTar- 

deba qveyanaSi movlenebi da ra 

safrTxeebis winaSe vdgavarT. 

saubaric swored mmarTveli 

gundidan daviwyoT. faqtia, 

rom „qarTuli ocneba“ martiv 

mamravlebad iSleba da deput- 

atebi umravlesobis rigebs 

toveben. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom 

mmarTveli gundi amJamad kri- 

zisSia. Tqveni SefasebiT, ra 

xdeba? 

_ ra xdeba da ivaniSvils politikuri 

Zala daengra, romelic 

aranairad ar iyo partia, 

es iyo ajafsandali, rogorc 

ideologiuri, aseve Rirebulebis 

TvalsazrisiT. es iyo erT 

mdidar kacsa da mis gavlenebze 

garSemortymuli, saSovarze 

gamosuli xalxi „qarTul ocnebaSi“ 

da aranairi politikuri 

idealebi mas ar amoZravebda. 

ivaniSvils politika da saxelmwifo 

menejmenti biznes-mafiozuri 

struqturis marTva hgonia, 

arada, rogor imarTeba biznesi, 

ise ar imarTeba saxelmwifo 

da _ piriqiT. SeiZleba, 

mafiozuri saxelmwifo met-naklebad 

marTo, magram Tanamedrove 

saxelmwifo ase ar imarTeba. 

„qarTul ocnebaSi“, ubralod, 

mobezrdaT ivaniSvilis 

dakrulze cekva da droTa ganmavlobaSi 

es xalxi mixvda, rom 

arc ise magaria ivaniSvili, rogorc 

erTi SexedviT Cans. axla 

ki igi gaufasurda. adre vxedavdiT, 

Tu rogori upirobo avtoriteti 

iyo da misi erTi warbis 

awevaze yvela davlurs cekvavda. 

arada, erTi paranoiki kacia, 

romelsac warmodgena ar 

aqvs saxelmwifoze da am qveynis 

problemebze. is calkea, danarCeni 

qveyana _ calke. ivaniSvili 

marTla bednierad cxovrobs, 

radgan yvelaferi aqvs. misi 

zooparkis SenaxvisTvis, albaT, 

ramden fulsac xarjavs, naxevar 

saqarTvelos imdeni fuli 

cxovrebaSi ar unaxavs. 

_ gindaT TqvaT, rom 

Tavidanve arasworad SearCia 

is gundi, romelic dRes gamo- 

ecala? 

_ absoluturi ajafsandali 

SearCia. gundis SerCevas pasuxismgeblobiT 

ar misdgomia. arsebul 

politikur speqtrSi 

kvalificiur xalxs ki ar eZebda, 

aramed loialurs, opoziciur 

partiebs xeli mohkida da 

gverdiT daiyena. egona, rom 

rogorc manamde mafiozurad 

marTavda Tavis bizness, ase daemorCileboda 

politikaSic 

yvela. dRes uSualod partia 

„qarTuli ocneba“ iSleba, Torem 

iqamde 6-subieqtiani koalicia 

daifSvna. ivaniSvili gadasulia 

regresze, Zalauflebis 

SenarCunebaze, is Tavisi gundis 

wevrebsac ki aSantaJebs, _ visac 

unda, imas aCvenebs Canawers da 

es informacia mere Jonavs. 

_ Tqveni azriT, Tavdapirvelad, 

rodesac biZina ivaniSvi- 

li 2012 wels xelisuflebaSi 

movida, ra iyo misi umTavresi 

mizani, _ is, rom, ubralod, 9- 


wliani reJimi daesrulebina 

da saakaSvilze Suri eZia, Tu 

Tavis milionebze kidev mil- 

iardebi daematebina? 

_ yvelaferi erTad. piradad 

Cemi, ivaniSvilisa da mosaxleobis 

udidesi nawilis miznebi 

imaSi emTxveoda, rom saakaSvilis 

xelisufleba unda wasuliyo. 

Tavad „nacionaluri moZraobis“ 

wevrebi CemTan ar malaven 

da amboben, rom unda wasuliyvnen, 

saakaSvili absolutur 

CixSi iyo Sesuli. ivaniSvilis 

gegma rogorc es drom aCvena, 

iyo ara qveynis winsvla, ara 

qveynis ganviTareba, ara siRatakis 

daZleva, ara xalxis problemebis 

mogvareba, aramed am 

qveyanaze Tavze mojdoma, am 

qeynis, rogorc sakuTari Sps-s 

marTva da, ra Tqma unda, fulis 

keTeba. ivaniSvilma saqarTveloSi 

sadac SeZlo, fuli yvelgan 

gaakeTa, ubralod, problema 

is aris, rom aq bevri fuli 

ar iSoveba, Torem saydrisi iyo 

asafeTqebeli da ise aafeTqa, 

Tvalic ar dauxamxamebia da 

kanoni daarRvia. Zeglis afeTebis 

nebarTvac ki ar hqondaT. 

oqroze akeTa fuli; bitkoinebze 

akeTa da warmatebiT aaSena 

msoflioSi meore qarxana, romelsac 

gldanSi ekonomikuri 

zonac ki Seuqmna; panorama Tbilisi; 

galeria Tbilisi da romeli 

erTi CamovTvalo. yvela 

meTodiT cdilobs fulis keTebas. 

patara qveyana varT, magram 

ramdenic iSoveba, imdens Soulobs. 

sastumro biznesiT iqneba 

es Tu marixuanis moyvaniT, 

yvelafrisgan fuls adnobs. jansaRi 

adamianebi mixvdnen, rom 

es kaci fulis sakeTeblad movida. 

ki batono, kargia, rom saakaSvili 

gavuSviT, magram es 

arasakmarisia am Rataki qveynisTvis. 

Cven gvinda, rom saqar- 

Tvelo win midiodes. amboxebulma 

qarTvelebma erT mdidar 

adamians vandeT samSoblos 

bed-iRbali, magram vandeT imitom, 

rom qveyana win waeyvana, 

Tumca es kaci Cveulebrivi meduqne, 

daxlidari aRmoCnda. 

_ vinc mmarTvel gunds gamoeyo, 

rogor fiqrobT, ivaniSvilisgan 

damoukideblad ram- 

denad gaagrZelebs politikur 

karieras, Tundac, eka beselia? 

_ me ar vici qarTveli amomrCeveli, 

romelic xmas miscems 

an ratom unda misces xma eka 

beselias?! aseve Zalian meucnaureba 

is axalgazrda politikosebi, 

deputatebi, romlebmac, 

ratomRac, gadawyvites, rom eka 

beselias Tanagundelebi unda 

iyvnen. Zalian martivi gasaanalizebelia, 

rom SeiZleba ivaniSvili 

ar mogwondes, magram 

beselia ar vici, kidev vis Sei- 

Zleba rom moswondes. Cemi dardi 

maqvs bevri, Sesabamisad, 

sxvis magivrad ver vidardeb, 

Tumca veranair perspeqtivas 

ver vxedav, rom eka beselia da 

misi gundi arCevnebSi rames 

gaxdeba. 

_ ras ukavSirebT irakli 

RaribaSvilis dabrunebas? Sei- 

aleko elisaSvili: 

`Zaladobis, 

mosyidvisa 

da gayalbebis 

gareSe 

`qarTul 

ocnebas~ 

gamarjvebis 

Sansi ar 

gaaCnia~ 

Zleba vifiqroT, rom ivaniSvils 

meti politikuri dasayr- 

deni figura aRar SemorCa? 

_ wyalwaRebuli xavss eWidebodao... 

oRond es xavsi xom 

raRacas unda hgavdes da vkvdebodi 

siciliT, roca Tqves, 

irakli RaribaSvili meored 

dabrundebao. CerCili dabrunda 

meored politikaSi. pirvel 

msoflio omSi galipovis 

katastrofuli operaciis, uzarmazari 

msxverplis Semdeg, romelic 

britaneTis imperiam gai- 

Ro danakargebis saxiT, CerCili 

britanul politikaSi veRar 

brundeboda. hitleris aRzevebam 

da realurma safrTxeebma 

britanel xalxs moandoma, rom 

CerCili politikaSi meored 

daebrunebina. es vici, magram 

RaribaSvilis meored dabruneba 

Tanamedrove politikuri 

anekdotia. pirvelad rom iyo 

da premier-ministris Tanamdebobas 

ikavebda, maSin xom kramitebi 

daamtvria da es qveyana 

aayvava da misi meored dabruneba 

ubralod , Rimilis momgvrelia. 

amiT undodaT eCvenebinaT, 

rom Cvengan yvela ki ar garbis, 

`RaribaSvilis 

meored 

dabruneba 

Tanamedrove 

politikuri 

anekdotia~ 

viRacebi brundebian da is vi- 

Raca viRaca xom unda iyoso? 

amitom daabrunes kaci, _ gajgimuli, 

RvarZliT molaparake, 

naTesavebis korufciaSi 

CaZiruli axalgazrda, romlis 

yoveli piris gaReba uxerxulobis 

gancdas gviqmnida. gveSinoda, 

rom raRac ar daebrexvebina 

da sul ase xdeboda. ase- 

Ti kaci gind Seitanon da gind 

gamoitanon, azri ar aqvs. saku- 

Tari Tavi moityues. 

_ swored am dabrunebis Semdeg 

vgebulobT, rom mmarTve- 

li gundi „eiCar kompanias“ 

qiraobs, rom kvalificiuri 

kadrebi moizidos. raze mety- 

velebs xelisuflebis aseTi 

araseriozuli nabiji? 

_ es uprecedento ambavia. 

barem, samodelo saagentodan 

daiqiravon modeli biWunebi da 

gogonebi. warmoidgineT, ra 

donis krizisia, _ saxelisuflebo 

mmarTveli partia imdenad 

gulis amrevia, rom xalxi 

ar ekareba da „eiCar kompania“ 

aiyvanes, rom iqnebada, viRac 

moityuon. aseTi ram msoflo 

istorias ar axsovs. politologia 

maqvs damTavrebuli da 

aseTi ram arsad wamikiTxavs, 

samarcxvino ambavia! 

_ vadamdeli saparlamento 

arCevnebi realurad gesaxe- 

baT? 

_ gulaxdilad rom giTxraT, 

ararealurad meCveneba, radgan 

realuri arCevnebi weliwadnaxevarSia. 

Tu vinmes awyobs axla 

vadamdeli saparlamento 

arCevnebis Catareba, es xelisuflebaa. 

_ ratom? 

_ imitom, rom xelisuflebam 

Tu isev Caatara proporciulimaJoritaruli 

wesiT, vin dar- 

Ceba amiT mogebuli, xelisuflebis 

garda? sjobs, rom movemzadoT 

da 2020 wels Catardes 

maJoritarebis gareSe, mxolod 

proporciuli wesiT. es unda 

iyos mTavari Zalisxmeva, Tumca 

Cveni qveyana imdenad ucnauria, 

rom SeiZleba, ucbad gavardes 

yaraulis TofiviT da raRac 

movlenis gamo Zalian bevri 

ram Seicvalos. 

_ 2020 wlis saparlamento 

arCevnebisTvis Tqven rogor 

emzadebiT? 

_ intensiurad: jer samoqalaqo 

moZraoba SevqmeniT; ramden- 

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`Zalian martivi 

gasaanalizebelia, rom SeiZleba 

ivaniSvili ar mogwondes, magram 

beselia ar vici, kidev vis 

SeiZleba rom moswondes. Cemi 

dardi maqvs bevri, Sesabamisad, 

sxvis magivrad ver vidardeb, 

Tumca veranair perspeqtivas ver 

vxedav, rom eka beselia da misi 

gundi arCevnebSi rames gaxdeba~ 

ime dRis win kaxeTis ofisi gavxseniT; 

axla zugdidSi vamzadebT; 

SesaZloa, gorSi gavxsnaT 

warmomadgenloba da imasac ar 

gamovricxavT, rom politikur 

organizaciad gadavkeTdeT. amas 

pirdapir vambob, Tumca es 

imazea damokidebuli, ramdenad 

viqnebiT Sinaganad struqturulad 

mzad. saSinao davaleba 

gvaqvs, momdevno wlis martamde 

ra unda gavakeToT. Tu im 

yvelafers SevasrulebT, ar 

gamovricxav, rogorc zemoT 

vTqvi, samoqalaqo moZraobisgan 

damoukideblad da mis bazaze 

politikuri organizaciac 

Seiqmnas. 

_ garda imisa, rom samo- 

qalaqo moZraoba daafuZneT, 

kidev ra nabijebs dgamT, rom 

ufro ganviTardeT, Camoyali- 

bdeT, rogorc politikuri 

organizacia? 

_ Cveni problema ra aris, iciT? 

_ ivaniSvili, „nacionaluri 

moZraoba“ da danarCeni partiebi 

erTmaneTTan brZoliT, fulis 

keTebiT da erTmaneTis si- 

ZulviliT arian dakavebulebi. 

politikaSi yofnis mizani xalxis 

problemebis mogvareba da 

qveynis winsvla unda iyos, miT 

umetes iseTi qveynis, rogoric 

saqarTveloa, romelic ixrCoba 

siRatakeSi, korufciasa da 

aTas ubedurebaSi. Tu politikaSi 

yofnis mizani es ar aris, 

maSin Cems adgils politikaSi 

ver vxedav. Tu Cveni moZraoba 

ver moaxerxebs xalxis problemebis 

mogvarebas, xedvebis gaweras, 

analizs, Zalisxmevas, rom 

yvelam erTad qveyana win waviyvanoT, 

maSin politikas SeveSvebiT. 

Tu iseve vitivtive, rogorc 

eseni tivtiveben, erTobian 

politikiT, „dasveckaoben“, 

dadian kafeebidan kafeebSi, televiziidan 

televiziebSi... ase- 

Ti politikisTvis mimifurTxebia. 

Cvens tvinebSi sabWoTa 

stereotipia, rom patara kacebi 

da qalebi varT, rom Cven 

aravin arafers gvekiTxeba da 

gvgonia, rom viRac didi biZina, 

miSa Tu stalini gaakeTeben 

Cvens gasakeTebels. vimeoreb: es 

`Tu Cveni moZraoba ver moaxerxebs xalxis 

problemebis mogvarebas, xedvebis gaweras, 

analizs, Zalisxmevas, rom yvelam erTad qveyana 

win waviyvanoT, maSin politikas SeveSvebiT. Tu 

iseve vitivtive, rogorc eseni tivtiveben, 

erTobian politikiT, `dasveckaoben~, dadian 

kafeebidan kafeebSi, televiziidan 

televiziebSi... aseTi politikisTvis 

mimifurTxebia. Cvens tvinebSi sabWoTa 

stereotipia, rom patara kacebi da qalebi 

varT, rom Cven aravin arafers gvekiTxeba da 

gvgonia, rom viRac didi biZina, miSa Tu 

stalini gaakeTeben Cvens gasakeTebels. vimeoreb: 

es aris sabWoTa CarCenili mentaloba. 

Sesabamisad, igi unda davamsxvrioT~ 

aris sabWoTa CarCenili mentaloba. 

Sesabamisad, igi unda davamsxvrioT. 

sinamdvileSi, Ti- 

Toeuli moqalaqe adamianebi 

varT, aravin aris patara an didi. 

yvelani Tanasworebi varT, 

yvelam unda movindomoT, rom 

es qveyana ukeTesi gaxdes. gvinda, 

rom xelebi davikapiwoT, 

yvelam erTad movindomoT da 

qveyana nabij-nabij waviyvanoT 

win. biZinas da viRac miSa-gri- 

Sas me piradad arc arasdros 

davlodebivar da arc davelodebi. 

_ xalxs ndoba daekarga, 

radgan Cven garSemo arian 

politikosebi, romlebic, gan- 

sakuTrebiT winasaarCevnod, 

maSin rodesac isini kardakar 

maTxovroben xmebze, gamoirCevian 

brtyel-brtyeli, tra- 

faretuli sityvebiT da gvin- 

da-argvinda, maTi demagogia 

sofelSi glexze did gavlenas 

axdens, Tumca mogebisTanave 

isini (politikosebi) qrebian 

da rbil savarZlebze sxdebian. 

Tqven maTgan riT gansxvavdebiT, 

ratom unda endos ale- 

ko elisaSvils amomrCeveli? 

_ CemTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovania, 

rom me viyo Cems sindis- 

Tan marTali, rac RmerTTan ar 

daimaleba, zemodan miyurebs. 

merobis arCevnebis Semdeg umu- 

Sevari viyavi da megobrebi rom 

ar damxmarebodnen, xan Suqs mi- 

Wridnen da xan _ gazs, radgan 

aranairi zedmeti Semosavali 

da gadamaluli fulebi ar gamaCnia. 

frTiani angelozi ar var, 

erTi Cveulebrivi codvili 

kaci var, magram sul sxva miza- 

ni mamoZravebs. viRacas es esmis, 

viRacas _ ara. bavSvobidan Cemi 

idealebi iyvnen yvelasTvis sa- 

Tayvano politikosebi. CemTvis 

politikosi aris dimitri yifiani, 

romelic qalaqis meri iyo, 

niko nikolaZe, ilia WavWavaZe, 

romelic politikosi gaxldaT 

_ Tbilisis sakrebulos wevri 

iyo, eqvTime TayaiSvili, romelic 

parlamentis vice spikeri 

gaxldaT. eqvTime TayaiSvili, 

niko nikolaZe da ilia WavWavaZe 

verasdros viqnebi, magram swored 

isini arian CemTvis politikuri 

idealebi. kidev myavs 

samxedro idealebi, mazniaSvili 

da sxvebi. minda, rom maT gavusworo 

Tvali , maT mivbaZo da 

ara im danarCen politikur 

WuWys, romelic aq aris. Sewyalebis 

komisiaSi muSaobaze Cemi 

daTanxmebis erT-erTi mTvari 

mizani iyo Tanamdebobasa da korufciasTan 

pirispir aRmoCena. 

mindoda gamego, SevZlebdi Tu 

ara realurad am yvelaferze 

maRla dadgomas da simarTle 

giTxraT, sakuTari Tavi momewona. 

Cemi politikuri mizani 

aris, rom sanam energia da Sesa- 

Zlebloba maqvs, am qveyanas vemsaxuro 

da gakeTebuli saqmeebiT 

viamayo. aseve davumtkico 

adamianebs, rom politikaSi yofna 

aris didi pasuxismgebloba 

da Sroma da araviTar SemTxvevaSi 

_ binZuri saqme. SeiZleba 

iyo politikaSi da ar iyo 

binZuri politikosi. viRacas 

amis sjera, viRacas _ ara. 

_ gamoricxavT, rom sxva 

opoziciur partiebTan iTanam- 

SromloT? 

_ TanamSromlobas aravisTan 

gamovricxav, magram SeerTebas 

gamovricxav. me Cemi gezi, sxva 

miznebi maqvs, regionul ofisebs 

vxsni da a. S. 

_ mTawmindis saarCevno olqSi 

2019 wlis gazafxulze, Su- 

aledur arCevnebze, gegmavT 

Tu ara Tqveni moZraobidan 

kandidatis wardgenas? 

_ ra Tqma unda, Tumca jer 

vfiqrobT da ramdenime dReSi 

kandidats warvadgenT. 

_ dabolos, ra Sansebi aqvs 

2020 wlis saparlamento arC- 

evnebze „qarTul ocnebas“? 

_ Zalian dabali Sansi, magram 

didi Zaladoba iqneba. rac Sar- 

San iyo arCevnebis meore turze, 

2020-Si is kvadratSi da kubSi 

ayvanili iqneba. Zaladobis, 

mosyidvisa da gayalbebis gareSe 

„qarTul ocnebas“ gamarjvebis 

Sansi ar gaaCnia. 

ìvaniSvilma saqarTveloSi sadac SeZlo, fuli yvelgan 

gaakeTa, ubralod, problema is aris, rom aq bevri 

fuli ar iSoveba, Torem saydrisi iyo asafeTqebeli 

da ise aafeTqa, Tvalic ar dauxamxamebia da kanoni 

daarRvia. Zeglis afeTebis nebarTvac ki ar hqondaT. 

oqroze akeTa fuli; bitkoinebze akeTa da warmatebiT 

aaSena msoflioSi meore qarxana, romelsac gldanSi 

ekonomikuri zonac ki Seuqmna; panorama Tbilisi; 

galeria Tbilisi da romeli erTi CamovTvalo. yvela 

meTodiT cdilobs fulis keTebas. patara qveyana varT, 

magram ramdenic iSoveba, imdens Soulobs. sastumro 

biznesiT iqneba es Tu marixuanis moyvaniT, 

yvelafrisgan fuls adnobs. jansaRi adamianebi 

mixvdnen, rom es kaci fulis sakeTeblad movida~ 

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saqarTvelos prezidentis samxreT kavkasiuri turne mezo- 

bel qveynebSi da ara mxolod, sakmaod didi yuradRebis qveS 

aRmoCnda. somxeTSi vizitma ki gansakuTrebiT mwvave Sefasebe- 

bi gamoiwvia. 

am sakiTxze „qronika+~ eTnikur 

konfesiaTa centris xelmZRvanels, 

armenolog lela jejela- 

vas esaubra: 

_ evropul qveynebSi voiaJis 

Semdeg saqarTvelos prezidenti 

azerbaijansa da somxeTs estumra. 

misma vizitebma am qveynebSi sakma- 

od didi aJiotaJi gamoiwvia, gake- 

Tda ukiduresad mZime Sefasebebi. 

ras ityviT prezidentis vizitebze 

da zogadad misi uflebamosilebidan 

gamomdinare, ramde- 

nad angariSgasawevi iyo da aris 

mis mier am qveynebSi gakeTebuli 

gancxadebebi? 

_ saqarTvelos prezidentis 

vizitebi somxeTsa da azerbaijan- 

Si gansakuTrebuli yuradRebis 

sagani aRmoCnda rogorc adgilobrivi, 

ise regionuli mediisTvis. 

bunebrivia, rom im rTuli winasaarCevno 

peripetiebis Semdeg, rac 

salome zurabiSvilis gaprezidentebas 

uZRoda win, misi politikuri 

aqtivobebis mimarT arsebobs 

rogorc obieqturi, aseve jansaRi 

da arajansaRi interesebic. xSirad 

eqspertTa da politikosTa 

mxridan aris mcdeloba, rom prezidentis 

SezRuduli uflebamosilebis 

gamo salome zurabiSvili 

da misi politikuri aqtivobebi 

ar ganixilebodes qveynisTvis 

mniSvnelovan da angariSgasawev 

movlenad. vfiqrob, rom prezidentis 

institutisadmi amgvari damokidebuleba 

damazianebelia Cveni 

saxelmwifoebrivi interesebisTvis, 

miT ufro maSin, rodesac qveynis 

prezidenti, jer kidev, saer- 

To-saxalxo wesiT aris arCeuli. is 

warmoadgens saqarTvelos moqalaqeebis 

xmas qveynis SigniTac da gareTac. 

swored amitom qveynis mosaxleobis 

molodinebi zurabiSvilisadmi 

mainc ufro maRalia, vidre 

politikosebisa da xelisuflebisa. 

es Cemi subieqturi mosazrebaa, 

magram mrCeba STabeWdileba, 

rom prezidentisa da mmarTveli 

Zalis politikuri dRis wesrigi 

erTmaneTisgan damoukidebel 

reJimSi mimdinareobs. 

_ da mainc, ratom moyva aseTi 

xmauri salome zurabiSvilis 

kavkasiur turnes? 

_ sanam am kiTxvaze gipasuxebT, 

aucileblad unda aRvniSno, rom 

Cemi, albaT, rogorc qveynis mosaxleobis 

absoluturi umravlesobis 

dakveTa saqarTvelos prezidentis 

mimarT, aris saqarTvelos 

teritoriuli mTlianobis sakiTx- 

Tan dakavSirebiT principuli da 

Seuvali poziciis qona yvela donis 

Sexvedraze _ rogorc saxelmwifoTaSorisi, 

aseve regionuli 

urTierTobebis formatSi. prezidentis 

pres-samsaxuris mier gavrcelebul 

oficialur informacia- 

Si nTlad Cans, rom swored am tipis 

damokidebuleba iyo gamJRavnebuli 

rogorc azerbaijanSi, 

aseve somxeTis vizitebis dros. 

_ maS, ram gamoiwvia aseTi, vi- 

tyodi, arajansaRi aJiotaJi? 

_ prezidentis somxuri viziti 

iyo eqo baqos Sexvedrebisa. vfiqrob, 

baqoSi gakeTebuli gancxadeba 

okupirebul teritoriebTan dakavSirebiT 

iyo lodi, romelsac saqarTvelos 

prezidentma somxeTis 

vizitisas fexi wamohkra. 

_ iqneb, ufro daakonkretoT. 

_ kavkasiis regionSi arsebulma 

umwvavesma konfliqtebma Tanamedrove 

geopolitikuri gamowvevebis 

fonze axali waxnagebi SeiZina. 

es mocemuloba ukve TiTqmis 30 welia, 

samxreT kavkasiis qveynebis xelisuflebebs 

mudmiv reJimSi danis 

pirze siaruls aiZulebs da xSirad 

maTTvis imaze metad mtkivneulia, 

vidre amas mosaxleoba aRiqvams. 

_ ras gulisxmobT? 

_ arsebobs dauwereli SeTanxmeba, 

rom mTiani yarabaRis konfliqti 

da saqarTvelos teritoriaze 

arsebuli konfliqtebi arasodes 

iqnas ganxiluli erT sibrtyeze 

maTi gansxvavebuli Sinaarsisa da 

anatomiis gamo. miuxedavad regionSi 

arsebuli urTulesi politikuri 

mocemulobisa, moxerxda, 

rom somxeTic da azerbaijanic 

aRiareben saqarTvelos teritoriul 

mTlianobas da es aris is algoriTmi, 

romelic gansazRvravs 

Cvens qveynebs Soris saxelmwifo- 

TaSoris urTierTobebs. amdeni 

wlis ganmavlobaSi saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebis mxridan pirvelad 

baqoSi gaisma somxeTis mimarT sityva 

okupacia. Cemi uryevi mosazrebaa, 

rom es iyo politikurad da, 

gnebavT, moralurad gaumarTlebeli 

gancxadeba. ara imitom, rom 

formulireba mcdaria da azerbaijans 

Cven msgavsad ar aqvs teritoriuli 

mTlianobis problema, aramed 

imitom, rom visac am SemTxvevaSi 

es termini okupanti, miemarTeba, 

aris saqarTvelos megobari saxelmwifo 

da cxadia, am mocemulobidan 

masTan dialogi prezidentis- 

Tvis ukve Zalian rTuli iqneboda. 

_ ratom gamoiyena salome 

zurabiSvilma baqoSi sityva „ok- 

upacia”? 

_ diax, logikuria davsvaT kiTxva, 

_ ra aucilebeli piroba arsebobda 

azerbaijanSi termin „okupaciis” 

gamoyenebisa, risi mosmenac 

azerbaijaneli kolegebisTvis 

sasiamovno moulodneloba, xolo 

somxeTisTvis, romlis yuradRebis 

centrSi, vgoneb, Cvenze metad iyo 

es viziti, usiamovno siurprizi 

aRmoCnda. mimaCnia, rom prezidentma 

da misma Tanmxlebma delegaci- 

`baqoSi gakeTebuli 

gancxadeba iyo lodi, 

romelsac prezidentma 

somxeTSi fexi wamohkra~ 

`somxeTis axali xelisufleba cdilobs, rom 

garkveuli garRveva moaxdinos evrokavSirTan 

urTierTobaSi im rTuli geopolitikuri 

mocemulobis miuxedavad, romelSic is 

imyofeba. evroatlantikur sivrceSi 

integraciis TvalsazrisiT Cvven mokavSireobas - 

raoden rTulic ar unda Candes es - SeuZlia 

axali impulsi SesZinos saxelmwifoTaSoris 

urTierTobebs Tanamedrove saerTaSoriso 

realiebis gaTvaliswinebiT~ 

is wevrebma unda auxsnan saqarTvelos 

moqalaqeebs, ra politikuri 

dividendebi miviReT Cven wlebis 

winaT dadgenili TamaSis wesebis 

SecvliT. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom jer 

pasuxgaucemeli, Secvlili mocemulobis 

fonze ganxorcielda 

prezidentis viziti Zalian mokle 

droSi somxeTSi, sadac, vfiqrob, 

sakmaod xisti formiT Sefasda es 

formulireba. bunebrivia, es sakiTxi 

iqneboda somxeTis pirvel 

pirebTan daxurul Sexvedrebze 

rTuli saubrebis sagani, magram im 

formiT sajarod gamotana, rogorc 

es gaakeTa somxeTis erovnuli 

asambleis Tavmjdomare ararat 

mirzoianma, yvelasTvis moulodneli 

iyo da albaT, qarTuli 

delegaciisTvisac. 

_ mirzoianis mier gakeTebul 

Sefasebas gulisxmobT? 

_ ra Tqma unda, ararat mirzoianma 

saqarTvelos prezidentis 

baqos gancxadebis Sefasebisas gamoiyena 

termini aRmaSfoTebeli. 

zedmetad mentorulad JRerda 

prezident sarqisianis miniSnebebic 

konfliqtebis erT sibrtyeze 

ganxilvis dauSveblobasTan dakav- 

SirebiT. aseT fonze prezident 

zurabiSvilis forsmaJorSi miRebuli 

gadawyvetileba SeteviTi 

strategiis Sesaxeb, aseve ar aRmoCnda 

Secdomebisgan dazRveuli. 

CemTvis, rogorc qarTul-somxuri 

urTierTobis mkvlevrisTvis, Znelad 

gasaxsenebelia ori qveynis ma- 

Rali donis Sexvedrebis dros sajarod 

gamotanili iseTi frazeologia, 

romelic am Sexvedris 

dros gamovida. „aRmaSfoTebeli”, 

„arakeTilganwyobili garemo”, 

„somxuri eklesia ar aRiarebs saqarTvelos 

teritoriul mTlianobas” 

da a. S. 

_ es ukanaskneli metad delika- 

turi sakiTxia... 

_ geTanxmebiT, saukuneebis man- 

Zilze qarTul-somxur saxelmwifoTa 

Soris urTierTobebs sakmaod 

mZime foni hqonda, rac upiratesad 

ganpirobebuli iyo imiT, 

rom TiTqmis mudmivad sxvadasxva 

geopolitikur orbitaze vmoZraobdiT 

da mudmivad arsebobdnen 

didi geopolitikuri moTamaSeebi, 

romelTa interesebSic ar Sedioda 

ori mezobeli xalxis poziciebis 

daaxloeba. me-7 saukuneSi momxdari 

saeklesio ganxeTqilebis 

(romlis aCrdilic dRemde mosdevs 

or qveyanas Soris urTierTobas) 

mizezebi ufro politikuri 

xasiaTisa iyo, vidre _ dogmaturi. 

es anbanuri WeSmariteba cnobilia 

somxeTis mcodne yvela profesionalisTvis, 

magram, samwuxarod, qveyanaSi 

arsebuli inteleqtualuri 

resursis gamoyenebas keTrovaniviT 

gaurbian xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi. 

am senis moZaleba gansakuTrebiT 

SesamCnevia dRevandeli 

xelisuflebis pirobebSi. somxeTis 

wminda samociqulo eklesiis 

saWeTmpyrobelTan saqarTvelos 

prezidentis mier dayenebuli sakiTxi 

sruliad safuZvliania da is 

ar aris prezidentis mier aRmoCenili 

novacia. amaze didi xania, 

saubari midis saqarTvelos eklesiis 

wiaRSi, Tavadac araerTxel 

misaubria saqarTveloSi somxuri 

eparqiis adgilobriv winamZRol- 

Tan, somxeTis xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebTan 

sxvadasxva dros. 

sakiTxi aucileblad unda gadawydes 

im sirTuleebis miuxedavad, 

rac somxeTis mxarisTvis Tanamdevi 

iqneba gadawyvetilebis miRebis 

procesSi. mimaCnia, rom am sakiTxis 

dayeneba somxeTis patriarqTan 

aucilebeli iyo, magram sxva formiT. 

miT ufro, rom sakiTxi ori patriarqis 

oficialuri Sexvedrebis 

dros jer arasdros yofila 

ganxiluli. 

_ anu garkveuli diplomati- 

uri etiketi aqac dairRva? 

_ aseTi kategoriuli toni, rom 

somxeTis eklesia ar aRiarebs saqarTvelos 

teritoriul mTlianobas, 

SeiZleba gqondes mas Semdeg, 

rac ori patriarqis Sexvedraze es 

sakiTxi ganxiluli iqneboda da 

somxeTis mxridan miRebuli gveqneboda 

an kategoriuli uari, an 

Seusrulebeli dapireba. cota uxerxulia 

CemTvis, rodesac me miwevs 

gamocdili, profesionali diplomatis 

gancxadebebis komentireba 

da mis Secdomebze saubari, magram 

rogorc somxur-qarTuli 

urTierTobebis specialisti, am 

vizits vuyureb diaqronul Wril- 

Si da ar vsaubrob istoriuli konteqstidan 

amoglejil erT konkretul 

vizitsa da mis Tanamdev 

Sedegebze. miT ufro, rom rogorc 

aRvniSne, saeklesio ganxeTqilebam 

seriozuli kvali daaCnia ori qveynis 

urTierTobas, drodadro is 

kvlav axal waxnagebs iZens. 

gagrZeleba 27-e gv. 

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maka mosiaSvili 

599 97 25 55 

garemosdacviTi zedamxed- 

velobis departamentis kaxeTis regionuli sammarTvelos 

swrafi reagirebisa da patrulirebis ganyofilebis ufrosi, 

zaqaria qinqlaZe, saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis samsaxuris Tan- 

amSromlebma 7 Tebervals TelavSi sammarTvelos SenobaSi 

daakaves. qinqlaZe qrTamis aRebas ar aRiarebs. 

zaqaria qinqlaZe „respublikuri 

partiis” yofili wevria. wina 

mowvevis sakrebuloSi qinqlaZe 

jer axmetis sakrebulos wevrad, 

Semdeg ki Tavmjdomared muSaobda. 

2017 wlis noemberSi, roca garemos 

dacvis saministro soflis meurneobis 

saministros SeuerTda, 

„respublikelma” gigla agulaSvilma 

ki ministris Tanamdeboba datova, 

uwyebaSi dasaqmebuli misi kadrebi 

gaaTavisufles. daiTxoves 

garemosdacviTi zedamxedvelobis 

departamentis ufrosi, kaxeTis 

sammarTvelos ufrosi da a. S. ramdenime 

Tve kaxeTis sammarTvelos 

ufrosis movaleobas zaqaria qinqlaZe 

asrulebda. 2017 wlis mart- 

Si sammarTvelos ufrosad beso 

SubiTiZe dainiSna, ris Semdegac 

samsaxuridan wasvla mosTxoves zaqaria 

qinqlaZesac. rogorc cnobilia, 

qinqlaZe moTxovnas ar daemorCila 

da samsaxuridan wasvlis 

Sesaxeb, saboloo jamSi, gancxadeba 

ar dawera. 

qinqlaZis dakavebas misi advokati, 

avTo zubaSvili „qroni- 

ka+”-Tan ase afasebs: 

iyo erTi argumenti, ris gamoc xelmZRvanelobasTan 

konfliqti warmoiSva. 

_ ra SuaSia saqmeSi SubiTiZe? 

_ SubiTiZem, vinc misi uSualo 

ufrosi iyo, susTan TanamSroloba 

daiwyo da, praqtikulad, qinqlaZes 

danaSaulis provocireba 

mouwo. 

_ kerZod? 

_ SubiTiZe ramaz lefsveriZes 

aiZulebs, rom Sen zaqros unda 

Semaxvedro da Cemi TandaswrebiT 

gadasce Tanxao. am Sexvedris dros 

eubneba: mieci fuli, mieci fuli. 

is adamiani ki pasuxobs, rom Cven 

axloblebi varT da masTan iseTi 

urTierToba ar gvaqvs, rom fuli 

mivce, danarCens Tavad mivxedavT 

erTmaneTis saqmeso. is ise gadaekida, 

_ Tu ar miscem fuls, maSin Cven 

Soris araferi aRar iqneba, davSordeT 

da wavideTo. es yvelaferi 

videoze Cawerilia. 

_ risi miRweva unda SubiTiZ- 

es? 

_ TiTqos viRacebi zemodan, 

uSiSroebis davalebiT, eubnebian, 

situacia ise unda Seqmnan ramaz 

lefsveriZesTan urTierTobis 

dalagebiT, qinqlaZec unda Semoiyvanon 

urTierTobaSi, rom Semdeg 

axmetis satyeoSi is xalxi dai- 

Wiron, vinc xe-tyeze ukanono mopovebas 

awarmoebs. daaxloebiT ase- 

Ti konteqstiT arwmunebs SubiTiZe 

lefsveriZes. ase Sedis is kontaqt- 

Si braldebulTan. anu sanam daiwyeba 

samZebro samuSaoebi, manamde 

Tavad axorcielebs farul mosmenebs. 

ara marto qinqlaZe, aramed 

sami adamiania dakavebuli, ramaz 

lefsveriZe ki amaT yvelas farulad 

wers. 

_ aiRo Tu ara fuli qin- 

qlaZem? 

_ CanawerSi kargad ismis, rom 

qinqlaZe eubneba: namyenTan daka- 


zaqaria 

qinqlaZe 

brals ar 

aRiarebs 

Sps „gremis” damfuZneblebi goCa 

fSavliSvili, giorgi arCuaSvili 

da moqalaqe vaJa fSavliSvili. 

sus-is gancxadebiT, gamoZiebam 

aseve daadgina, rom ramaz lefsveriZem 

ganizraxa axmetis raionis 

sofel orvilas tyeSi xe-tyis 

ukanono gaCexva da marTlsawinaaRmdegod 

mopovebuli masalis 

realizaciis Sedegad ukanono Semosavlebis 

miReba. ramaz lefsveriZem 

maRali Tanamdebobis pirs, 

mfarvelobis gawevis sanacvlod, 

qrTamis saxiT yovel Tve 10 000 

laris gadaxda SesTavaza da dapirebuli 

Tanxis nawili, 8000 lari 

gadasca. 

_ ra SegiZliaT TqvaT qinqlaZ- 

esTan erTad dakavebul pirebze? 

_ qinqlaZis garda zemoT CamoTvlili 

pirebi, vinc axla braldebulebi 

arian, 2016-2017 da aseve 

2018 wlebSi „qarTuli ocnebis” 

saarCevno Stabis aqtiuri mxardam- 

Werebi iyvnen. maTi muSaobis Sedegad 

iRebda partia municipalitetis 

mcxovreblebisgan xmebs. e. i. 

dakavebulebi saxelisuflebo wreebTan 

daaxloebuli pirebi iyvnen. 

sasamarTlo procesze cxadi 

gaxda, rom lefsveriZes qrTami pirvelad 

ar gadauxdia, man gamoZiebas 

daudastura, rom SubiTiZes is 

sistematurad aZlevda Tanxas da 

misganac iRebda sargebels. Tumca 

gamoZiebasa da sasamarTlos es sadavod 

ar gauxdia. piriqiT, misi es 

gancxadeba ugulebelyves. e. i. qinqlaZes 

dakaveba susis uSualo mo- 

Txovna iyo, magram amas mxolod 

erTi SubiTiZis kaprizi ar uwyobda 

xels. piriqiT, qinqlaZis moSoreba 

saministros interesSi Sedioda. 

ratom gaxda aucilebeli qinqlaZis 

dakaveba da misTvis dana- 

Saulis provocireba? rogorc 

„qornika+”-isTvis cnobili gaxda, 

qinqlaZe araa martivad dasamor- 

Cilebeli braldebuli, is wina xelisuflebis 

drosac iyo braldebulis 

skamze da arc maSin uRiarebia 

danaSauli. 

aseve arsebobs mtkicebulebebi, 

`SubiTiZe ramaz lefsveriZes aiZulebs, rom Sen 

zaqros unda Semaxvedro da Cemi TandaswrebiT 

gadasce Tanxao. am Sexvedris dros eubneba: 

mieci fuli, mieci fuli. is adamiani ni ki 

pasuxobs, rom Cven axloblebi varT da masTan 

iseTi urTierToba ar gvaqvs, rom fuli mivce, 

danarCens Tavad mivxedavT erTmaneTis saqmeso. 

is ise gadaekida, - Tu ar miscem fuls, maSin 

Cven Soris araferi aRar iqneba, davSordeT da 

wavideTo. es yvelaferi videoze Cawerilia~ 

_ qinqlaZe ar aRiarebs dana- 

Sauls. mas TiTqmis erTi weliwadia, 

rac Tavisma xelmZRvanelobam 

administraciuli warmoeba mesamed 

gauxsena. erTxel sayveduri misces, 

meored _ gafrTxileba. Tumca 

ase zustad ar vici, radgan Sesabamisi 

dokumentebi, samwuxarod, CemTvis 

dRemde ar gadmouciaT. praqtikulad, 

qinqlaZes samsaxurSi 

sdevnidnen. undoda, rom wasuliyo. 

iyo SemTxveva, roca man gancxadebac 

dawera, xelmZRvanelobas mimarTa, 

magram bolos Tavisi dawerili 

gancxadebac ukan gamiTxova, 

anu uari Tqva da aRar wavida. es 

SirebiT Cveni urTierToba gvaqvs 

da ar minda es fuli. lefsveriZes 

qinqlaZe fuls ubrunebs da es 

saqmidanac Cans. 

prokuraturam zaqaria qinqlaZes 

brali wauyena sisxlis samarTlis 

kodeqsis 338-e muxlis pirveli 

nawiliT, rac qrTamis aRebas 

gulisxmobs da sasjelis saxiT 6- 

dan 9 wlamde vadiT Tavisuflebis 

aRkveTas iTvaliswinebs. 

rogorc cnobilia, susma zaqaria 

qinqlaZis garda ramaz lefsveriZec 

daakava. mas bralad qrTamis 

micema edeba. qrTamis micemis braldebiT 

aseve dakavebulebi arian 

àrsebobs mtkicebulebebi, sadac Cans, rom 

qinqlaZe ar mfarvelobs, magaliTad, xe-tyis 

ukanono gaCexvas, ukanono TevzWeras, 

nadirobas, piriqiT aseT darRvevebSi SemCneul 

maRali Tanamdebobis pirebs amxels da 

ajarimebs. rogorc Cans, swored es aris erT- 

erTi mizezi uwyebidan qinqlaZis moSorebisa~ 

susi arasasurvel 

adamianebs 

qrTamis aRebis 

provocirebiT 

iSorebs 

sadac Cans, rom qinqlaZe ar mfarvelobs, 

magaliTad, xe-tyis ukanono 

gaCexvas, ukanono TevzWeras, nadirobas, 

piriqiT aseT darRvevebSi 

SemCneul maRali Tanamdebobis 

pirebs amxels da ajarimebs. rogorc 

Cans, swored es aris erT-er- 

Ti mizezi uwyebidan qinqlaZis mo- 

Sorebisa. qinqlaZis iq yofna saministros 

warmomadgenlebisTvis zedmeti 

Tavis tkivili xdeboda, rac 

uwyebam misi am formiT moSorebiT 

gadawyvita. 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 

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2018 wels Sinagan saqmeTa sami- 

nistrom daasrula osama asaad gobrail masoudis ganacxadis 

safuZvelze dawyebuli gamoZieba, romelmac saerTaSoriso ko- 

mpaniis (oficialuri vebgverdi viagogo.com) ) saxeli skandalSi 

gaxvia. am udaxvewilesi aferis avtori ki qarTveli aiti-specialisti 

giorgi TavaZea, romelic dResdReobiT sasjels saqarTveloSi 

ixdis. wesiT da rigiT, am statias „holivudis” romelime 

reJisori an prodiuseri Tu waikiTxavs, SesaniSnavi sc- 

enaris ideas mivawodebT. 

„qronika+~-s eqskluziur int- 

ervius aZlevs dazaralebuli mxa- 

re _ „futuretravelgeorgias” 

direqtori, osama asaad gobrail 

masoudi: 

_ qarTul bazarze 2015 wlis 

ianvridan vimyofebiT da am xnis 

ganmavlobaSi sakmao reputacia movipoveT. 

kompania ucxoeli turistebis 

saqarTveloSi Semoyvanas axorcielebda, 

uzrunvelyofda maT 

ganTavsebas sastumroebSi qveynis 

masStabiT, aseve dRiuri turebis 

dagegmvas. mogvianebiT, Cveni kompaniis 

momsaxurebas daemata bileTebis 

servisic. 2017 wlis dekember- 

Si SekveTa miviReT 2018 wlis fexburTis 

msoflio Cempionatis bileTebze, 

romelic ruseTSi imarTeboda. 

Cvens partnior kompaniebs 

aRniSnuli TamaSis bileTebze 

moTxovna hqondaT da maTi SeZena 

da maTTvis miwodeba Cven unda uzrunvelgveyo. 

amaSi mexmareboda 

Cveni kompaniis aiti specialisti _ 

giorgi TavaZe, romelsac dileri 

anu gadamyidveli kompania unda 

moeZebna dileri Cvens kompanias 

msoflio Cempionatis bileTebs 

konkretuli trafikis pirobebiT 

SeuZenda. es moicavda Tanxis etapobrivad 

gadaxdebs Tveebisa da 

Tanxis raodenobis mixedviT. giorgi 

TavaZem SemogvTavaza saerTaSoriso 

sadilero kompania „viagogos~ 

servisi da mec davTanxmdi. 

daviwyeT TanamSromloba. yvelaferi 

_ xelSekrulebis gaformebiT 

dawyebuli da angariSfaqturebiT 

damTavrebuli _ eleqtronulad, 

internetis meSveobiT xorcieldeboda. 

_ e. i. azieli kontingentisTvis 

Tqven msoflio Cempionatis bi- 

leTebi unda SegeZinaT? 

_ diax. ara marto azieli kontingentisTvis, 

nebismieri msurvelisTvis. 

saerTo jamSi, 550-mde 

bileTis SeZenis msurveli gamoCnda, 

rac imas niSnavda, rom amdenives 

ganacxadi „viagogoze” gadavagzavneT. 

kontraqtis mixedviT, am 

raodenobis bileTis gadasaxdeli 

Tanxa Seadgenda 105 000 dolars, 

rac, rogorc dasawyisSi mogaxseneT, 

garkveul vadebSi unda gadagvexada 

paypal-is saSualebiT. aseve 

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Tamar rostiaSvili 

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Tanxa „non-refundable” (ukan dabrunebis 

gareSe) im SemTxvevaSi xdeboda, 

Tu Cveni kompania zemoT aRniSnul 

Tanxas srulad ver gadaixdida. 

SeTanxmebisamebr, „viagogo” 

Cvens kompanias mxolod Tanxis 

srulad gadaxdis Semdeg gamougzavnida 

bileTebis srul raodenobas. 

iqidan gamomdinare, rom Cveni 

ZiriTadi marketi iyo arabuli, 

ar gagvWirvebia partniori kompaniebisgan 

bileTebis moTxovna, 

isini etapobrivad gviricxavdnen 

Tanxebs. am fuls giorgi TavaZes 

vaZlevdiT da igi Paypal-is saSualebiT 

ricxavda Tanxebs „viagogos” 

angariSze. 

_ yvela gadaxdis qviTari gqon- 

daT? 

_ TiToeuli gadaxdis ganxorcielebisTanave 

Setyobineba meilze 

mogvdioda. 2018 wlis maisSi 

Cvens kompanias „viagogosTvis” gadaricxuli 

hqonda 80 000 dolari 

da darCenili gvqonda 25 000 dolari, 

rom bileTebi gamoegzavnaT. 

es bolo Caricxva im mizeziT dagvianda, 

rom, Tavis mxriv, erT-erTma 

kompaniam daagviana, romelsac 

26 000 dolari unda Caericxa Cvens 

angariSze. es kompania giorgi TavaZem 

mogvinaxa. manamde maTTan aranairi 

Sexeba ar gvqonia, komunikacia 

mimdinareobda mxolod meilebis 

saSualebiT. mokled, es kompania 

bolo wuTs ukve aRar gamodioda 

kontaqtze, Sesabamisad, Tanxis 

molodinSi „viagogosTan” bolo 

Tanxis gadaricxva davagvianeT. da 

ai, am dros modis „viagogosgan” werili, 

rom Tanxebi maT angariSze 

saerTod ar aris Caricxuli _ arc 

erTi centi da verc miviRebT bileTebs. 

_ ki magram, 80 000 dolari xom 

gadauricxeT? 

_ komunikacia Cvensa da „viagogos” 

Soris meilebis saSualebiT 

xorcieldeboda. pasuxismgebeli am 

saqmianobaze giorgi TavaZe iyo. meilebzeve 

viRebdiT oficialur invoisebs, 

rogorc Tanxis gadaxdis 

msoflio 

CempionatTan 

dakavSirebuli 

qarTuli afera 

da skandalSi 

gaxveuli 

saerTaSoriso 

kompaniebi 

dokuments da Cvens kompanias aRniSnul 

gadaricxvebTan dakavSirebiT 

aranairi eWvi ar gasCenia. Tavidan 

arc is faqti gveCvena saeWvod, 

rom ucxo qveyanaSi paypal-is sa- 

SualebiT gviwevda gadaxda. 

_ konkretulad ra Sedioda 

giorgi TavaZis movaleobaSi? 

_ giorgi TavaZe gaxldaT Cveni 

kompaniis aiti-TanamSromeli, romlis 

movaleobaSic Sedioda aiti 

usafrTxoebis kontroli, saitis 

marTva da reklamireba. im period- 

Si, rodesac „viagogoze” 25 000 

dolaris Caricxva gviandeboda, 

giorgi TavaZe Sempirda, rom mis 

meuRles moskovSi bina hqonda, 

romlis gayidvasac apirebdnen da 

Tu droulad gaiyideboda, kompanias 

bileTebis safasuris dasafarad 

TanxiT daexmareboda. xolo 

rodesac fuls miviRebdi partniori 

kompaniebidan, mas ukan davubrunebdi. 

aseTi SemTxvevac iyo: 

`giorgi TavaZe gaxldaT Cveni kompaniis aiti- 

TanamSromeli, romlis movaleobaSic Sedioda 

aiti usafrTxoebis kontroli, saitis marTva 

da reklamireba. im periodSi, rodesac 

`viagogoze~ 25 000 dolaris Caricxva 

gviandeboda, giorgi TavaZe Sempirda, rom mis 

meuRles moskovSi bina hqonda, romlis 

gayidvasac apirebdnen da Tu droulad 

gaiyideboda, kompanias bileTebis safasuris 

dasafarad TanxiT daexmareboda~ 

giorgi ofisSi Cvil bavSvTan er- 

Tad movida da ganacaxada, rom misi 

meuRle binis gayidvasTan dakav- 

SirebiT moskovSi gadafrinda. 

_ saboloo jamSi, arsadac ar 

gafrenila ara? 

_ diax, rodesac Sss-m gamoZieba 

daiwyo, aRmoCnda, rom sazRvaric 

ar hqonda gadakveTili. imis Tqma 

minda, rom giorgi TavaZe mudmivad 

kontaqtze iyo CemTan da cdilobda, 

„uangarod” damxmareboda yvela 

problemis mogvarebaSi. sxvaTa 

Soris, am pirovnebas imdenad kargi 

damokidebuleba hqonda kompaniis 

yvela TanamSromelTan, rom 

aravis Seutania eWvi mis saqmianobasa 

da keTilsindisierebaSi. arasdros 

aviwydeboda TanamSromlebis 

dabadebis dReebi, axal wels naZvis 

xe man moitana da sekret santas 

periodSic aravin dautovebia usaCuqrod... 

_ aRgviwereT giorgi TavaZis 

mier dagegmili aferis sqema. 

_ vidre am sqemas gagiSifravdeT, 

minda ganvmarto, rom sruli 

sqema Sss-m gamoiZia. manamde aseTi 

rame filmebSic ar menaxa. mokled, 

mas Semdeg, rac Cvenma kompaniam bolo 

darCenili Tanxa ver gadaixada, 

„viagogom” mogvwera, rom verc 

erT bileTs ver miviRebdiT. paralelurad, 

yoveldRe viRebdiT 

satelefono zarebsa da muqarebs 

partniori kompaniebisgan. isini bileTebs 

an Tanxis dabrunebas iTxovdnen. 

gadavwyvitye, Sss-sTvis 

mimemarTa, raTa, pirvel rigSi, is 

gaerkvia, sad wavida gadaricxuli 

80 000 dolari. ai, swored maSin 

gairkva yvelaferi, rom giorgi 

TavaZes „viagogos” saxelze meili 

da saiti hqonda Seqmnili, romelic 

specialuri linkis saSualebiT 

gadadioda „viagogos” oficialur 

saitze. TavaZe ayalbebda yvela invoiss, 

fotoSopSi qmnida sxvadasxva 

dokumentacias Cveni kompaniis 

direqtorTan da buRalterTan 

warmosadgenad TandarTuli beWdebiT. 

anu roca Cveni kompaniis meilidan 

igzavneboda werili viTom 

„viagogos” meilze, sinamdvileSi, 

Tavis Seqmnil meilze agzavnida da 

Tavadve pasuxobda. amave sistemiT 

hqonda awyobili paypal-iT gadaxdis 

sistema. 

_ anu, realurad, gadaxdis 

qviTrebi ar hqonda? 

_ ara. arasdros moutania gadaxdis 

Ceki da arc aravis mouTxovia, 

vinaidan avtomaturad meilze viRebdiT 

„Caricxvis” mesijebs. verc 

direqtorma da verc veravin veraferi 

vieWveT, vinaidan mimowera 

Zalian hgavda oficialurs, aseve 

xelSekrulebac, romelic viTomda 

dadebuli iyo Cven Soris. bolos 

gamoCenili partnioric, romelic 

26 000$-is gadaxdas apirebda, giorgi 

TavaZis mxridan iyo. Sesabamisad, 

man icoda, rom Cveni kompania 

im droisTvis damokidebuli 

iyo am Tanxaze da bolo Tanxis gadauxdelobis 

SemTxvevaSi ukve gadaxdil 

Tanxasac aravin daabrunebda 

ukan... 

_ anu namdvil kompania „viagogosTan” 

TanamSromloba ar Semdga- 

ra da arc Tanxebi Caricxula maT 

angariSze? 

_ ara! giorgi TavaZem „viagogos” 

butaforia Segviqmna da yvela 

dagvajera, rom swored maTTan 

vawarmoebdiT molaparakebas. 

_ rodis aiReT eWvi, rom aRniS- 

nuli aferis saTaveSi giorgi 

TavaZe idga? 

_ maisSi, roca kompaniam ukve 

yvelaferi dakarga. aRar vicodiT, 

visTan gagvegrZelebina molaparakeba 

da ra gziT dagvebrunebina 

Tanxa. moxda ise, rom Cveni kompaniis 

menejeris, qeTi buaZis mama aRmoCnda 

aiti specialisti . swored 

man gagviSifra, rom saiti, eleqtromeilebi 

da xelSekruleba „viagogos” 

ar ekuTvnoda. menejerma es 

detalebi momaxsena, ris Semdegac 

Sss-s mivmarTe da giorgi TavaZis 

winaaRmdeg saqme aRiZra. rodesac 

mas saxlSi miakiTxes, aRmoCnda, 

rom igi ar cxovrobda im misamarTze, 

rasac manamde asaxelebda. 

mere kontaqtze gamovida da ganacxada, 

rom meuRles janmrTelobis 

problema hqonda da saavadmyofoSi 

imyofeboda. 

_ ki magram, aziuri marketis 

momxmareblebisgan 

Caricxul 

Tanxas ra bedi ewia? bileTebi 

maT, faqtobrivad, ver miiRes? 

_ aRniSnulma viTarebam Cemi 

kompania daangria. faqtobrivad, 80 

000 dolari daikarga, romelic 

Cveni partniori kompaniebisgan bileTebis 

SeZenis sanacvlod mivi- 

ReT da es Tanxa dRemde valad 

madevs. davkarge wlobiT mopovebuli 

ndoba da kontaqtebi. Tanam- 

SromelTa didma nawilma damtova, 

imitom rom xelfasebs veRar vuxdidi 

da verc yovelTviur gadasaxadebs 

avudiodi. dResdReobiT 

kompaniaSi arc erTi Zveli Tanam- 

Sromeli aRar muSaobs menejerisa 

da buRaltris garda. Cemi kompania, 

romelsac 2017 wlis zafxulSi 

100-mde jgufi Semohyavda, dRes 

TviTgadarCenisTvis ibrZvis. 

_ advokats ratom uCiviT? 

_ rogorc ukve aRvniSneT, kompaniis 

arc erT TanamSromels ar 

hqonia gamocdileba msgavs sakiTx- 

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ebTan mimarTebiT da Tavidan yvelani 

Zalian dabneulebi viyaviT. 

rodesac Sss-m saqme aRZra, gamoZieba 

Seferxda da sul gveSinoda, 

rom giorgi TavaZis pasuxisgebis 

sakiTxi ar dadgeboda. mTeli es periodi, 

sanam TavaZe danaSauls aRiarebda, 

ojaxTan erTad baTumSi isvenebda. 

advokati Salva xaWapuri- 

Ze aviyvane. miuxedavad imisa, rom 

fuli saerTod ar mqonda, dakarguli 

Tanxebis dabrunebis imediT 

momsaxurebis safasurze _ 3000 

dolarze SevTanxmdiT. mis saxlSi 

mivedi da 1000 dolari gadavuxade, 

sanacvlod aranairi sabuTi ar 

mimiRia. mogexsenebaT, saqme sakmaod 

rTuli iyo da dros moiTxovda. 

mas Sss-s kiberdanaSaulis departamentis 

gamomZiebeli zaqro 

kapanaZe iZiebda. xaWapuriZe mpirdeboda, 

rom aucileblad miiyvanda 

saqmes bolomde da Tanxis nawilsac 

daabrunebinebda giorgis, Tumca 

es dapireba mxolod sityvebad 

darCa. Salva xaWapuriZe ar daswrebia 

arc erT sasamarTlo sxdomas 

giorgi TavaZis winaaRmdeg da Cvens 

mxares sasamarTloze warmoadgenda 

prokurori mariami. samwuxarod, 

gvari ar maxsovs... drodadro 

vcdilobdiT SalvasTan dakavSirebas 

da igi arasdros pasuxobda 

satelelfono zarebs, mxolod avtomatur 

Setyobinebebs gvigzavnida, 

rom ar scalia. mesijebiT vusvamdiT 

SekiTxvebs da arasdros 

vRebulobdiT pasuxs. saboloo ganaCenis 

ricxvic Cven SevatyobineT. 

iyo SemTxveva, roca xaWapuriZes 

bolos sayveduris werili mivwereT 

„whats app”-Si da misi damcinavi 


àdvokati Salva xaWapuriZe aviyvane. miuxedavad 

imisa, rom fuli saerTod ar mqonda, dakarguli 

Tanxebis dabrunebis imediT momsaxurebis 

safasurze _ 3000 dolarze SevTanxmdiT. mis 

saxlSi mivedi da 1000 dolari gadavuxade, 

sanacvlod aranairi sabuTi ar mimiRia. 

mogexsenebaT, saqme sakmaod rTuli iyo da dros 

moiTxovda. mas Sss-s kiberdanaSaulis 

departamentis gamomZiebeli zaqro kapanaZe 

iZiebda. xaWapuriZe mpirdeboda, rom aucileblad 

miiyvanda saqmes bolomde da Tanxis nawilsac 

daabrunebinebda giorgis, Tumca es dapireba 

mxolod sityvebad darCa. Salva xaWapuriZe ar 

daswrebia arc erT sasamarTlo sxdomas giorgi 

TavaZis winaaRmdeg da Cvens mxares sasamarTloze 

warmoadgenda prokurori mariami~ 

pasuxi miviReT, rom darCenili Tanxac 

ar gvqonda misTvis gadaxdili 

da arc arasdros auRia valdebuleba, 

saqme gaekeTebina. ori kviris 

ganmavlobaSi vcdilobdiT dagveTanxmebina 

Sexvedraze, rom davlaparakebodiT, 

magram sul dakavebuli 

iyo an ar gvpasuxobda. bolo 

ganaCenis Semdgom aRaranairi 

komunikacia aRar gvqonia. 

_ giorgi TavaZe dRes sasjelaRsrulebis 

dawesebulebaSi imy- 

ofeba, Tqven ki saqarTveloSi 

cxovrebis ufleba SegizRudes. 

ratom? 

_ saqarTveloSi xuTi welia, 

meuRlesTan da or SvilTan erTad 

vcxovrob. gogona meore klasis 

moswavlea da qarTul skolaSi 

dadis, biWi wlinaxevrisaa da saqarTveloSi 

daibada. isini egviptis 

moqalaqeebi da, amave dros, qristianebi 

arian. egvipteSi arc saxli 

gvaqvs da arc kari, iq ver davbrundebiT. 

2018 wels, am SemTxvevis 

Semdeg, mTel Cems ojaxs uari 

mouvida saqarTvelos moqalaqeobaze. 

sarCeli gavasaCivreT da sasamarTloSi 

SevitaneT, magram igive 

pasuxi miviReT, _ Turme, saqar- 

TvelosTvis saSiSroebas warmovadgenT, 

Tumca ra saSiSroebas _ 

ver gavige! dResdReobiT yovel 

sam TveSi erTxel droebiTi binadrobis 

uflebis ganaxleba mixdeba. 

Cemma ojaxma ar icis, ra qnas 

an sad wavides. binis qiris gadasaxdeli 

fulic aRar maqvs. arada, 

giorgi TavaZis gamoCenamde kompanias 

ucxoeli turistebi Semohyavda 

saqarTveloSi, uzrunvelyofda 

maT ganTavsebas sastumroebSi 

qveynis masStabiT. arabul marketze 

Zalian konkurentunarianebi 

viyaviT. 2017 wels monawileoba miviReT 

dubais, berlinis, londonisa 

da ruseTis saerTaSoriso gamofenebSi, 

aseve ukrainis, estone- 

Tis, CineTis gamofenebzec viyaviT. 

Cemi kompaniis Semosavlebi saSualebas 

maZlevda, rom qvelmoqmedebaSi 

mimeRo monawileoba. davafinanseT 

qarTveli gogona nino 

Ciqovani, romelsac janmrTelobis 

problema hqonda. aseve patara TanxebiT 

ramdenjerme davexmare 

mzrunvelobamoklebul bavSvTa 

saxls da moxucTa TavSesafars. 

Cemi gogona kerZo skolaSi damyavda 

da gamoviyvane. fuls veRar 

vuxdi da saxlSi zis. ver vamTavrebineb 

meore klass. sajaro skola- 

Sic ver gadamyavs, vinaidan binadrobis 

statusi SemiCeres. erTi ram 

ver gamigia _ ra davaSave me an ra 

daaSava Cemma ojaxma, aseT represiebSi 

rom amovyaviT Tavi?! Cven xom 

aravin mogvityuebia. aqeT momatyues 

da wlobiT mopovebuli biznesi 

da saxeli wamarTves. Tqvens gazeTs 

yvela kiTxulobs. minda, iusticiis 

ministrs mivmarTo, _ ra davaSaveT?.. 

iqneb, ganmimartos! 

`baqoSi gakeTebuli gancxadeba iyo lodi, 

romelsac prezidentma somxeTSi fexi wamohkra~ 

24-e gverdidan 

_ ufro konkretulad? 

_ kulturuli memkvidreobis Tema orive 

qveynis teritoriaze, calkeuli istoriuli 

movlenebis Sefasebebi da a. S. Tema Zalian 

mgrZnobiarea da problemebisadmi ukiduresad 

kvalificiuri da profesionaluri 

midgomebia saWiro orive mxridan. mainc 

gamovyofdi erT konkretul sakiTxs prezidentis 

somxuri vizitidan. 

_ cotaze metad gaugebari iyo prezidentis 

gancxadeba: „regionuli kon- 

fliqtebi saqarTvelos teritoriaze ar 

unda gadmovides”. rogor fiqrobT, ras 

gulisxmobda salome zurabiSvili? 

_ ar vici, ram misca prezidents amgvari 

gancxadebis gakeTebis safuZveli. maSinac 

ki, rodesac yarabaRis konfliqti umwvaves 

fazaSi iyo, saqarTvelom maqsimalurad airida 

konfliqtis saqarTvelos teritoriaze 

gadmotanis SesaZlebloba. xolo axla, rodesac 

azerbaijanisa da somxeTis pirveli 

pirebi, sagareo saqmeTa ministrebi erTmaneTTan 

pirdapir kontaqtze arian da am TvalsazrisiT 

garkveuli garRveva namdvilad 

aris, gaugebaria, sad dainaxa aseTi safrTxe 

Cvenma prezidentma?.. 

_ iqneb, es javaxeTis konteqstSi iyo 

naTqvami? 

_ Tu aq igulisxmeboda axalqalaqSi ganviTarebuli 

movlenebi _ yarabaRis omis 

monawile saqarTvelos moqalaqis Zeglis 

istoria iyo Tema, romelmac simwvave diplomatiuri 

TvalsazrisiT somxeTis mxridan 

daSvebuli garkveuli Secdomebis gamo 

SeiZina, es Zegli didi xania dgas. magram ganaxlebuli 

Zeglis gaxsnisTvis sazeimo formatis 

miniWebam _ sakanonmdeblo organos 

warmomadgenlis daswrebam da elCis monawileobam 

_ situacia gaamwvava. Torem saqarTveloSi 

mcxovreb azerbaijanelebs Tavis 

droze ar hqoniaT aseTi mwvave reaqcia. mimaCnia, 

rom am RonisZiebis dagegmva ar unda 

darCeniliyo Cveni Sesabamisi samsaxurebis 

yuradRebis miRma da prevenciuli RonisZiebebi 

unda ganxorcielebuliyo. 

_ rogor? 

_ somxeTis saelCosTan urTierToba da 

ganmarteba SeiZleboda, rom es ar Seuwyobda 

xels or qveyanas Soris urTierTobis 

pozitiur dinamikas da rom ar Sedioda Cveni 

qveynis interesebSi. is, rom am Zeglis 

sazeimod gaxsnaSi saqarTvelos parlamentis 

deputati monawileobda, imaze miuTiTebs, 

rom Cveni sakanonmdeblo organos zogierT 

warmomadgenels gacnobierebuli ar aqvs sakuTari 

moqalaqeobrivi da politikuri pasuxismgebloba. 

vfiqrob, am movlenaze, 

romelsac araerTgvarovani gamoZaxili hqonda 

Cvens mezobel azerbaijansa da Cvens Tanamoqalaqe 

azerbaijanelebSi, Tavisi wili 

pasuxismgebloba Cvens xelisuflebasac ekisreba. 

es iyo garkveuli tipis Secdoma, risganac 

yvelam Tavi unda davizRvioT. am tipis 

daSvebebi mezobeli saxelmwifoebis urTierTobebSi 

xdeba xolme, magram namdvilad 

ar aris im masStabis problema, romelic 

SesaZleblobas mogvcems, regionuli konfliqtebis 

saqarTvelos teritoriaze gadmotanis 

riskze visaubroT. 

_ ra gaZlevT am varaudis safuZvels? 

_ gacilebiT maRali warmodgenis var 

Cvens moqalaqe somxebsa da azerbaijanelebze. 

isini sruli pasuxismgeblobiT ekidebian 

am Temas, gacnobierebuli aqvT, piradad 

maTTvis, zogadad moqalaqeebisTvis da saxelmwifosTvis 

ramdenad gamousworebeli 

Sedegebi SeiZleba, mohyves konfliqtis aq 

gadmotanas. maT sasaxelod unda iTqvas, rom 

amis mcdeloba ar yofila da ar vfiqrob, 

rom sadReisod rame msgavsi riskis niSnebi 

igrZnobodes. 

_ ramdenad ician da esmiT saqarTvelo- 

Si somxeTis axali xelisuflebis survilebi 

da ramdenad aris Tanxvedra pozicieb- 

Si? 

_ somxeTSi gasuli wlis aprilis cnobili 

movlenebis Semdgom namdvilad gaCnda 

SesaZlebloba, qarTul-somxuri urTierTobebisTvis 

Zalian pozitiuri platforma 

Seqmniliyo axali realiebis gaTvaliswinebiT. 

somxeTis premier-ministr nikol 

faSinianisa da prezident sarqisianis 

pirveli samuSao vizitebi saqarTveloSi 

iyo Ria demonstrireba, rom somxeTis sagareo 

veqtorebSi saqarTvelo prioritetuli 

mimarTulebaa. saqarTvelos prezidentis 

cota uferul inauguracias mxolod 

somxeTis prezidenti eswreboda. 

miuxedavad imisa, rom saparlamento respublikis 

konstituciiT misi uflebamosilebebic 

SezRudulia, armen sarqisiani 

sakmaod mZime wonis politikuri figuraa, 

rogorc qveynis SigniT, aseve mis farglebs 

gareTac. somxeTis axali xelisufleba 

cdilobs, rom garkveuli garRveva moaxdinos 

evrokavSirTan urTierTobaSi im 

rTuli geopolitikuri mocemulobis miuxedavad, 

romelSic is imyofeba. evroatlantikur 

sivrceSi integraciis TvalsazrisiT 

Cvens mokavSireobas _ raoden 

rTulic ar unda Candes es _ SeuZlia axali 

impulsi SesZinos saxelmwifoTaSoris 

urTierTobebs Tanamedrove saerTaSoriso 

realiebis gaTvaliswinebiT. mimaCnia, rom, 

jerjerobiT, saqarTvelos xelisuflebis 

mier jerovnad ar aris gamoyenebuli is 

SesaZleblobebi, romelic somxeTTan da 

azerbaijanTan urTierTobebis damoukidebeli, 

axali pozitiuri platformebis Seqmnis 

SesaZleblobas gvaZlevs, Tanamedrove 

saerTaSoriso politikuri dRis wesrigis 

transformaciisa da im resursis 

gaTvalswinebiT, romelic saqarTvelos 

namdvilad aqvs. samwuxarod, am TvalsazrisiT, 

saqarTvelos prezidentis 

samxreT kavkasiuri turne namdvilad ar 

yofila nabiji win. 

`prezidentma da misma Tanmxlebma 

delegaciis wevrebma unda auxsnan 

saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs, ra 

politikuri dividendebi miviReT Cven 

wlebis winaT dadgenili TamaSis 

wesebis SecvliT~ 

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rodesac murusiZe iusticiis 

sabWos mdivnad daniSnes? swored 

es mosamarTleebi emsaxurebodnen 

am xelisuflebas 7 wlis ganmavlobaSi, 

rodesac sasamarTlo 

aSkarad mikerZoebuli iyo da es 

aisaxa Human Rights Watch-isa da Freedom 

House-is angariSebSi. 2017-2018 

wlebSi saqarTvelos Freedom Houseis 

monacemebis mixedviT, 7-baliani 

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da demokratiis xarisxi fasdeba, 

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samoqalaqo sazogadoebis 

ganviTareba progresulad Sefasda, 

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saSualoze dabali maCvenebliT. am 

kvlevebis dros beseliasac da sxvebsac 

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adamianebs minda davusva kiTxva, _ 

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imaze saubroben, rom qveyana swori 

mimarTulebiT viTardeboda, aseve 

TavianT loialur damokidebulebas 

gamoxataven batoni biZina ivaniSvilis 

mimarT. albaT ivaniSvili 

am adamianebze akeTebs fsons. 

savaraudod, am xalxs perspeqtiva 

aqvs imisa, rom momaval saparlamento 

siaSi moxvdnen. ivaniSvilis 

taqtika am SemTxvevaSi aris gundis 

gadaxalisebis imitacia. ivaniSvili 

acxadebs, rom „rusTavi 2" rom gamorTo, 

qveyanaSi idealuri mdgomareobaao, 

magram mgonia, arcTu 

ise sulelia, ver acnobierebdes im 

problemebs, romelic arsebobs. 

garkveulwilad mas surs, rom viRacam 

„gantevebis vacis” roli iTamaSos. 

magaliTad, rogorc Tavis 

droze kvirikaSvilze isaubra, 

TiTqos ivaniSvils garkveuli reformebis 

Catareba surda, endo, 

magram cudi premieri aRmoCnda da 

TiTqos amitom Seferxda reformebi; 

kohabitaciis drosac acxadebda, 

rom yvela dapirebis Sesruleba 

surda, Tumca mixeil saakaSvili 

prezidenti iyo da es viTom 

xels uSlida. is yovelTvis eZebda 

„gantevebis vacs” da poulobda kidec, 

es xan kvirikaSvili iyo, xan _ 

RaribaSvili. 

_ „qarTuli ocneba” 2016 wl- 

idan or banakad daiyo: „Zvelebi” 

da „axlebi”. mudmivad iyo mosa- 

zreba, rom ivaniSvili kobaxiZis 

gundze debda fsons. Tundac Sar- 

Sandeli movlenebi rom gavixse- 

noT, kobaxiZesa da WiWinaZes Sor- 

is dapirispirebas WiWinaZis part- 

iidan garicxva moyva. RaribaSvil- 

is politikaSi dabrunebiT ki es 

mosazreba Seicvala, risTvis da- 

sWirda ivaniSvils RaribaSvili? 

_ ivaniSvili, albaT, grZnobs, 

rom misdami loialuri kadrebis 

deficitia. erTi wlis win WiWinaZe 

upirispirdeboda, dRes beselia 

upirispirdeba, amis Semdeg kidev 

SeiZleba vinme gaCndes, vinc Riad 

daupirispirdeba. amitom RaribaSvils 

ganixilavs adamianad, romelic 

yovelTvis ityvis: „madloba baton 

biZinas”. wlebia icnobs da 

davalebulia ivaniSvilisgan. erTi 

periodi ivaniSvilma ifiqra, rom 

mas RaribaSvili ar sWirdeboda da 

uTxra kidec, _ Seni wasvlis droa. 

dRes, albaT, fiqrobs, rom mas isev 

sWirdeba RaribaSvili, radgan, misi 

azriT, beseliam da sxvebma ar gaamarTles. 

kobaxiZesac ar aqvs sakmarisi 

qarizma imisTvis, rom politikuri 

lideris funqcia iTavos 

da am SemTxvevaSi sjobs, es RaribaSvils 

gadaabaron. is ufro xistia, 

ficxi xasiaTi aqvs da ivaniSvilma 

miiCnia, rom RaribaSvili ufro 

loialuri iqneba mis mimarT. 

Cven gvaxsovs aseve RaribaSvilis 

xisti gancxadebebi „nacionalur 

moZraobasTan” mimarTebiT. man 

mTavrobis erT-erT sxdomaze ganacxada: 

„nacionalebma” madloba 

unda Tqvan imaze, rom xalxi ar 

uSveba imas, rasac imsaxurebeno. 

albaT RaribaSvilis iniciativa 

iyo isic, rom „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

21 ofisi daarbies, am dros 

RaribaSvilma ganacxada, _ mosaxleobam 

provokatorebs pasuxi gascao. 

warmogidgeniaT, ra kategoriasTan 

gvaqvs saqme, qveynis premierministri 

gamodis da aseT gancxadebas 

akeTebs. sinamdvileSi, TavianTi 

aqtivistebi miusies. Human 

Rights Watch-is angariSSic aisaxa 

aRniSnuli faqti. RaribaSvili 

gacilebiT ufro „antinacia”, Sesabamisad, 

dRes, albaT, ufro awyobs 

ivaniSvils „nacionalebisadmi” 

radikalurad ganwyobili adamiani, 

`RaribaSvils 

raRac 

periodis 

Semdeg 

SesaZloa, 

uTxran, Seni 

wasvlis 

droao...~ 

amitomac daabruna, Tumca raRac 

periodis Semdeg SesaZloa, isev 

uTxras, rom Seni wasvlis droao. 

saboloo jamSi, mniSvnelovani araa 

is, Tu ra awyobs ivaniSvils RaribaSvilis 

dabrunebiT, aramed mniSvnelovania, 

sad „wava” saqarTvelo. 

_ gasagebia, rom axla ivaniS- 

vils awyobs „nacionaluri moZraobisadmi” 

radikalurad ganwy- 

obili adamiani, magram ramdenad 

„imuSavebs” es sazogadoebaze? 

_ erTi periodi es muSaobda, 

magram ukve ar gaWris. Tomas jefersonma 

Tqva: „SesaZlebelia, moatyuo 

mTeli mosaxleoba garkveuli 

drois ganmavlobaSi, moatyuo mosaxleobis 

nawili mudmivad, magram 

SeuZlebelia moatyuo mTeli mosaxleoba 

mudmivad”. garkveuli 

drois ganmavlobaSi „ara nacebs” es 

propaganda muSaobda, roca xalxis 

raRac nawils sjeroda, rom 

xalxs marTla aupatiurebdnen „nacionalebi” 

da a. S. 2013 wlis saprezidento 

arCevnebSi giorgi margvelaSvilma 

62% miiRo, maSin man 

uproblemod gaimarjva. daviT baqraZem 

ki 21% miiRo, radgan „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” kandidati iyo. 

xolo 2016 wlis saparlamento 

arCevnebis dros „qarTulma ocnebam” 

gacilebiT naklebi _ 48% miiRo 

da maJoritaruli olqebis umravlesobaSi 

pirvelive turSi ver 

gaimarjva. aqedan gamomdinare, ma- 

Ti reitingi daeca, 2018 wlis saprezidento 

arCevnebze ki saerTod 

katastrofuli mdgomareoba SeeqmnaT, 

milionze metma amomrCevel- 

`xuxaSvilsac amaTTan erTad movixsenieb, nika 

gvaramiasTanac maqvs kiTxva, is xSirad iwvevs 

xuxaSvils da biZinologs eZaxis. jer erTi, es 

adamiani politologi ar aris, sircxvilia, 

magasac politologi erqvas da - mec. 6 wigni da 

200-mde samecniero naSromi maqvs gamocemuli, maT 

Soris, sazRvargareTis 20 qveyanaSi. 20 welia, 

pedagogiur saqmianobas vewevi, mecnierebaTa 

doqtori var, uceb xuxaSvili an vinme e. w. 

eqsperti gamova da 5-10-wuTian intervius miscems 

da maTac politologebs eZaxian~ 

ma pirvel turSi uari uTxra „qar- 

Tuli ocnebis” warmomadgenels da 

ara damoukidebel kandidat salome 

zurabiSvils . xma misca sxvadasxva 

opoziciur partias. „qarTul 

ocnebas” ukanono resursebis gamoyeneba 

dasWirda gasamarjveblad. 

aqedan gamomdinare, „qarTuli ocnebis” 

reitingi sapnis buStiviT 

qreba. amitomac „ara nacebs” propagandas 

naklebi efeqti eqneba, Tumca 

saprezidento arCevnebze garkveuli 

gavlena moaxdina. dRes ivaniSvils 

xelisuflebis gasamyareblad 

sWirdeba, rom rac SeiZleba 

meti amomrCeveli iyos misi momxre. 

imisTvis, rom es amomrCeveli misi 

momxre gaxdes, xelisuflebam mosaxleobis 

winaSe arsebuli socialur-ekonomikuri 

problemebi unda 

gadaWras, Tumca ver axerxebs. 

_ ivaniSvilis dapirebuli 1 

wlidan oTxi Tve gavida, Tu xe- 

davT politikur nebas, rom am 1 

weliwadSi realuri da Zireuli 

cvlilebebi gatardeba? 

_ ivaniSvilma es dapireba nawilobriv 

cxel gulze gasca da, misi 

mxridan amomrCevlis misamarTiT 

gakeTebuli satyuarac iyo. qveteqstSi 

igulisxmes, TiTqos, Tavisi 

miliardebi, rac am 6 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

ar dauxarjavs, axla 1 weliwadSi 

daaxarjavda xalxs. sxvanairad 

piradad rogor unda aeRo es 

pasuxismgebloba? naxeT konkretuli 

gegma, magaliTad, ra ekonomikur 

politikas gaatarebs: investiciebis 

mozidvis mimarTulebiT, 

demokratiis ganviTarebis mimarTulebiT. 

rame msgavsi warudgina sazogadoebas? 

man Tqva, ubralod, 

rom dro momeciTo. onore de balzaks 

kargad aqvs naTqvami: „xalxi 

yvelaze metad ijerebs imas, risi 

dajerebac surs”. SeiZleba viRacam 

ifiqra, rom ufaso fuls miiRebda. 

600 000 adamians kreditebi daufares, 

magram faqtia, rom mas 

realuri resursi ewureba. erTaderTi 

isev darCa saTqmeli, rom 

„nacebi” cudebi arian, amitomac 

ebRauWeba amas. xalxs axsna sWirdeba 

imisa, Tu rogor gadaWri qveynis 

winaSe mdgar problemebs. laris 

kursi isev ar dastabilurda, 

demokratiis ganviTarebis mima- 

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epoqa unda damTavrdes~ 

rTulebiT rom ganvixiloT, Jurnal 

„ekonomistis” monacemebiT 

saqarTvelom 2018 wels 79-e adgilidan 

89-e adgilze gadainacvla. 

mTliani Sida produqti erT sul 

mosaxleze gaangariSebiT, daaxloebiT, 

igive 4000 dolari rCeba. 

euTos amerikis departamentis angariSebSi 

ki mkafiod weria, rom 

saprezidento arCevnebis dros 

amomrCevelze seriozuli zewola 

iyo. ekonomikas rac Seexeba, 3-4%- 

ian zrdazea saubari, magram mgonia, 

es radikalurad ver Secvlis 

qveyanaSi arsebul problemas. 

_ „ocneba” problemebs ver agvarebs, 

Tumca axal saxeebs aqti- 

urad eZebs. raze miuTiTebs es 

faqti da ramdenad aris imis San- 

si, rom realurad axali saxeebi 

iqnebian da ara kobaxiZe-mdinar- 

aZeebi, romlebic „ocnebis” rup- 

orebad iqcnen? 

_ 2016 wlis saparlamento 

arCevnebis win wiwamurSi imJamindelma 

premierma giorgi kvirikaSvilma 

„qarTuli ocnebis” 15 axali 

saxe waradgina. is adamianebi, romlebmac 

dasavleTSi miiRes ganaTleba, 

maT Soris, harvardisa da kolumbiis 

universitetebis damTavrebulebic 

iyvnen. wesiT, yvelani 

progresulad moazrovne adamianebi 

unda yofiliyvnen, ra Tqma unda, 

soso jaWvlianze, kurtaniZeze da 

msgavs kategoriaze ufro ganaTlebulebi 

arian, magram qveyanaSi arsebobs 

araformaluri mmarTveloba 

da maT icodnen, razec midiodnen. 

parlamentSi 2016 wels mivi- 

ReT axali saxeebi, magram araformaluri 

mmarTvelobis sistema ar 

Secvlila. me rasac vxedav SesaZloa, 

sakadro cvlilebebi moxdes, 

axali sia warmoadginon, aseve SeiZleba 

samTavrobo cvlilebebic 

ganaxorcielon, magram mgonia, radikaluri 

cvlileba ar moxdeba. 

Tu reformebi ginda, maSin reformatorebis 

gundi unda moiyvano. 

marto verafers izam. magaliTad, 

saakaSvili marto rom yofiliyo, 

verafers izamda. vaJa-fSavelas 

aqvs kargad naTqvami: „martoka kaci 

ras izams, Tundac cecxls yrides 

piriTao”. saakaSvilma ki bevri 

Rirseuli adamiani daiyena gverdiT, 

maT Soris, cxonebuli kaxa benduqiZe 

da cxonebuli zurab Jvania. 

benduqiZem ekonomikis mimar- 

TulebiT bevri reforma ganaxorciela. 

aseve merabiSvili da adeiSvili, 

romlebic bevrs ar moswons, 

magram me momwons. samwuxarod, 

iyo sferoebi, sadac Cavardnebi 

moxda, gansakuTrebiT sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi. magaliTad, Tavdacvisa 

da usafrTxoebis sfero- 

Si oqruaSvilma ar gaamarTla, 

Tumca seriozuli Zvrebi iyo da 

amas marto saakaSvili ver izamda. 

ivaniSvilsac Tu reformebis ganxorcieleba 

surs, aucileblad 

unda moiyvanos reformatorTa 

gundi da es araformaluri mmarTveloba 

unda Sewydes. Tu axal saxeebs 

reformebis ganxorcielebis 

saSualeba ar mieca, sxvanairad qveyana 

ver ganviTardeba da RaribaSvilis 

msgavsi kadrebis amara davr- 

CebiT. romaelma poetma ovidiusma 

Tqva: „mxolod ganaTlebul adamians 

ZaluZs Tavisuflebao”. amitomac 

mgonia, Tu progresulad moazrovne 

adamianebi iqnebian da ivaniSvili 

maT miscems saSualebas, Zireuli 

reformebic ganxorcieldeba, 

magram ivaniSvili amis saSualebas 

ar miscems, radgan is fiqrobs, 

rom yvelaze Wkviani is unda 

iyos da gundSi masze Wkviani ar 

unda gamoCndes . realoba aris es, 

rom sistema ar icvleba. 

_ am sistemasTan erTad ar icvleba 

Tea wulukiani, romlis Tan- 

amdebobidan gadadgomazec iyo 

saubari, Tumca vnaxeT, rom is 

sajarod SantaJis eniT esaubra 

premiers. riT xsniT im faqts, rom 

wulukiani me-7 welia, xelSeuxe- 

beli ministria? 

_ garkveulwilad ise gamovida, 

rom wulukianma mTavroba daaSantaJa, 

maT Soris, premier-ministric.. 

„qarTuli ocneba” sufTa rom 

yofiliyo, mas am SantaJis ar 

SeeSindeboda. didi albaTobiT 

wulukians raRac informacia aqvs, 

romelic ukavSirdeboda sasamarTlo 

sistemas, iusticiis sabWos 

saqmianobas, prokuraturas, bunebrivia, 

rom am struqturebTan 

iusticiis saministros Sexeba hqonda, 

Sesabamisad, ar aris gamoricxuli, 

wulukians preskonferencia 

Caetarebina da eTqva realuri 

problemebis arsebobis Sesaxeb. winaaRmdeg 

SemTxvevaSi ratom SeSinda 

xelisufleba? amitomac cdiloben, 

koWi gaugoron wulukians da 

Sewyalebis komisia daeqvemdebaros 

ara prezidentis administracias, 

aramed _ iusticiis saministros. 

_ am procesebis paralelurad 

rogor axsniT opoziciis pasi- 

urobas? 

_ ar aris gamoricxuli, rom 

opoziciam mizanmimarTulad pauza 

aiRo. sazogadoebis yuradReba ga- 

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`Cven gvaxsovs aseve RaribaSvilis 

xisti gancxadebebi `nacionalur 

moZraobasTan~ mimarTebiT. man 

mTavrobis erT-erT sxdomaze 

ganacxada: `nacionalebma~ madloba 

unda Tqvan imaze, rom xalxi ar 

uSveba imas, rasac imsaxurebeno. 

albaT RaribaSvilis iniciativa iyo 

isic, rom `nacionaluri moZraobis~ 21 

ofisi daarbies, am dros 

RaribaSvilma ganacxada, - 

mosaxleobam provokatorebs pasuxi 

gascao. warmogidgeniaT, ra 

kategoriasTan gvaqvs saqme, qveynis 

premier-ministri gamodis da aseT 

gancxadebas akeTebs~ 

datanilia „qarTuli ocnebis” Sida 

kinklaobaze. SesaZloa, arc 

surs opozicias, rom maT saqmianobaze 

iyos mimarTuli yuradReba. 

aRsaniSnavia, rom saarCevno sistemis 

cvlilebasTan dakavSirebiT 

xelmowerebis Segrovebis proces- 

Sic arian. saqarTvelos konstituciis 

mixedviT ss sakanonmdeblo 

iniciativis ufleba aqvs, minimum, 

200 aTas amomrCevels da Sesabamisad, 

am mimarTulebiT muSaoben. 

meore mxriv ki pauza aiRes im TvalsazrisiT, 

rom daacades beseliasa 

da kobaxiZes erTmaneTis diskreditacia, 

amiT ki ufro daecema 

„qarTuli ocnebis” reitingi. opozicias 

SesaZloa awyobs, rom yuradReba 

am mimarTulebiT iyos gadatanili. 

rac Seexeba opoziciis gaerTianebas, 

am SemTxvevaSi mTavari 

faqtoria, rom „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

da „evropuli saqarTvelo” 

gaerTiandnen. aseve mniSvnelovania 

respublikelebic. SesaZloa, maT 

didi reitigi ar gaaCniaT, Tumca 

wonadi politikuri figurebi namdvilad 

hyavT. ar aris aucilebeli 

yvela partiis gaerTianeba. piradad 

CemTvis miuRebelia bevri 

dRevandeli politikosi, romelic 

viTom avangardSi gamodis ivaniSvilis 

reJimTan brZolisas. 

_ magaliTad? 

_ getyviT, visac vgulisxmob da 

minda maT „qronika+”-is meSveobiT 

kiTxva davusva. wina xelisuflebas 

xSirad mec vakritikebdi, bevri 

mimarTulebiT vuWerdi mxars: korufciasTan 

brZola, policiis reforma, 

infrastruqturuli samuSaoebi, 

Tumca sasamarTlo sistemis 

qmedeba, 7 noembers Zalis gadamateba 

miuRebeli iyo da am SemTxvevaSi 

kritika misasalmebelia. magram, 

magaliTad, Tako Carkviani, 

adamiani gamodioda da acxadebda, 

rom informacia maqvs, joxebiT aupatiureben 

patimrebso da a. S., aseT 

tyuils kadrulob, Semdeg ivaniSvils 

aZlev xmas, saTanado sargebels 

ver naxulob da uceb mis 

ginebas iwyeb. magaliTad, aleko 

elisaSvili, piradad vicnob mas, 

telekompania „kavkasiaSi” davdiodi 

mis gadacemaSi stumrad, is aSkarad 

eweoda „ocnebis” agitacias. 

Tavadac Tqva erTxel: „arc vaqcevdi 

yuradRebas, vin iyo ivaniSvilis 

gverdiT, mTavari iyo, „nacionalebi” 

wasuliyvneno. SeiZleba, „nacionalebi” 

ar mogwondes, magram 

„greCexas” mxari rogor unda dau- 

Wiro?! an, vTqvaT, im adamainebs, 

romlebic moskovSi Cadiodnen, 

Jirinovskisa da putins xvdebodnen. 

alekos misamarTiT maqvs, kiTxva, 

_ is gadacemaSi oponirebas xSirad 

miwevda, Tumca ar uwevda opozicioners. 

oponireba orives unda 

gauwio, fexburTis msaji, rom 

xar, ar aris swori, erTi gundis 

karSi yovelTvis penalti daniSno 

da meoris mimarTulebiT auti ar 

daniSno. ivaniSvilma roca Jurnalistebi 

daibara, maT Soris elisaSvilic 

iyo da Tqva, batonma biZinam 

cota migvjiryvnao. maSin is 

ivaniSvilTan iyo daaxloebuli, 

mere Sewyalebis komisiis Tavmjdomared 

daniSnes da amis Semdeg 

gaarkvia, Turme, rom beselia cudi 

yofila. anu ra gamodis _ an gaqvs 

inteleqtualuri problema, ver 

acnobierebdi, vin iyo ivaniSvili 

da dRes gaacnobiere? meore variantia, 

rom acnobierebdi da gulwrfeli 

ar iyavi. e. i. an inteleqtualur 

problemasTan gvaqvs 

saqme, an zneobriv problemasTan. 

pirveli turis Semdeg elisaSvili 

„rusTavi 2-ze” gamovida da Tqva, 

rom nebismiers mieciT xma salome 

zurabiSvilis garda, radgan saqarTvelo 

omis dawyebaSi daadana- 

Saulao. ismis kiTxva, _ ratom uWerda 

mxars is ivaniSvils? Tavis 

droze, mis erT-erT pirvel konferenciaze, 

2011 wlis Semodgomaze, 

ivaniSvilma ganacxada, rom 

qarTulma mxarem daiwyo omi. ratom 

iyo maSin SenTvis ivaniSvili 

misaRebi da ratom aris miuRebeli 

zurabiSvili? imitom, rom ivaniSvili, 

garkveulwilad, fulTan 

asocirdeboda?! ulvaSebgaparsuli 

orjonikiZea zurabiSvilio, esec 

gancxada elisaSvilma da ivaniSvili 

ar iyo maSin orjonikiZe, roca 

acxadebda, saakaSvilma daiwyo 

omio? xuxaSvilsac amaTTan erTad 

movixsenieb, nika gvaramiasTanac 

maqvs kiTxva, is xSirad iwvevs xuxaSvils 

da biZinologs eZaxis. jer 

erTi, es adamiani politologi ar 

aris, sircxvilia, magasac politologi 

erqvas da _ mec. 6 wigni da 

200-mde samecniero naSromi maqvs 

gamocemuli, maT Soris, sazRvargareTis 

20 qveyanaSi. 20 welia, pedagogiur 

saqmianobas vewevi, mecnierebaTa 

doqtori var, uceb xuxaSvili 

an vinme e. w. eqsperti gamova 

da 5-10-wuTian intervius miscems 

da maTac politologebs eZaxian. 

mainteresebs, ratom aris xuxaSvili 

biZinologi, anu ras niSnavs, 

_ biZinas specialistia? Tu 

biZinologia, maSin unda scodnoda, 

rom biZina ar iyo kargi. Tu 

biZinologi xar, maSin Tavidanve 

unda gcodnoda biZinas Sesaxeb, e. 

i. biZinologic ar xar, politologobaze 

saubari arc aris. me ar 

vambob, rom es adamiani uWkoa, Sesa- 

Zloa, rogorc mewarme da biznesmeni 

Wkviania. me, magaliTad, biznesSi 

ar maqvs imdeni gamocdileba 

da politologobaze vdeb Tavs. 

isev da isev Cndeba kiTxva, _ an 

gulwrfeli ar iyavi, roca amas 

akeTebdi, an zneobriv problemas- 

Tan gqonda saqme, biZinologi ki 

ara fulologi xar maSin. jer arkadi 

patarkaciSvilTan TanamSromlobdi, 

ris gamo? _ kargi pirovneba 

iyo da misi zodiaqos niSani gizidavda?! 

ra Tqma unda, ara. xuxaSvilis, 

Carkvianis, elisaSvilis msgavsi 

bevria. me kiTxvebi maqvs aseve 

Cemi kolega gia nodias mimarT, is 

did politologad iTvleba, namdvilad 

Wkviani kacia, bevri naSromi 

aqvs, magram disertacia 1986 

wels daicva Temaze: „SromiTi 

urTierTobebi da marqsistuli 

morali”, e. i. komunistur agitacias 

eweoda adamiani da Semdeg 

liberali gaxda. 

_ xom aris SesaZlebeli, rom 

realurad Seicvalos adamianma 

damokidebulebebi da poli- 

tikuri Sexedulebebi? 

_ SesaZlebeli aris, magram politikuri 

yvaryvarizmis epoqa unda 

damTavrdes! maqs vebers aqvs na- 

Tqvami: „rogoric aris adamiani, 

iseTivea mis mier gatarebuli politika”, 

amitom pirovnul faqtors 

didi mniSvneloba aqvs. 

_ Tako Carkvianis mier dafuZnebuli 

partia „kanoni da samar- 

Talis” adgili sad aris qarTul 

politikur velze? ra perspeq- 

tivebi SeiZleba hqondes mas? 

_ es partia ivaniSvilis reJims 

upirispirdeba da mxolod misi 

kritikiT Semoifargleba, Tumca 

amis alternativas ras gvTavazoben? 

„nacionaluri moZraobis” mmar- 

Tvelobis periodSi opoziciis saqmianoba 

swored imitom ar momwonda, 

rom alternativas ver sTavazobdnen 

amomrCevels, _ programa 

ar gvaqvs, saakaSvilis reJims davamTavrebT 

da mere SevimuSavebTo. 

bevrma e. w. politikosma Tu politologma 

arc icis, ras niSnavs 

termini „politika”, berZnuli sityvaa 

da saxelmwifo marTvis xelovnebas 

niSnavs. Tako Carkvianma 

unda aRiaros, rom is cdeboda. 

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qarTul politikaSi mis Semosv- 


las maSxalebis srola ar mohyolia 

da rom ara misi yofili partiuli 

Sefis aqtiuroba, axali politsaxis gamoCenas verc veravin Seam- 

Cnevda, magram irakli alasaniam imdeni qna, rom Tea wulukiani 

araTu Tavis, rogorc „Tavisufali demokratebis” Tavmjdomar- 

is moadgiled dainiSna, aramed mediasac „TvalSi stenida”. hoda, 

qarTuli politikuri realobisTvis sruliad ucxo persona 

qarTuli politikis amomaval varskvlavad iqca. masze ambobd- 

nen, momavali iusticiis ministriao da es winaswarmetyveleba 

gamarTlda _ 2012 wels, xelisuflebaSi mosulma ivaniSvilma 

qalbaton wulukians iusticiis saWe, marTlac, Caabara. 

mas mere, rogorc ityvian, aTasma 

wyalma Caiara _ ministrebic Seicvalnen, 

koaliciac daiSala da 

„ocnebas” wulukianis politnaTlia 

alasaniamac aqcia zurgi, Tavad Tea 

ki „ocnebaSi”, rogorc ityvian, 

CadgmiTaa, anu mas ubatonod buzsac 

veravin ufrens da Tu gaabrazes, imuqreba 

kidec, ai, wavalo, magram 

„ocnebam” icis, rom wulukianis gabrazeba 

Zalian, Zalian Zviri daujdeba 

da amitomac am qalbatons zomaze 

metad eloliaveba. 

mainc, ra icis wulukianma ise- 

Ti, romlis Tqmisac im miliarder 

kacs eSinia? _ amis Sesaxeb cota 

qvemoT visaubroT. axla ki iusticiis, 

jerjerobiT, moqmedi ministris 

dosies gavecnoT da mis 

begraunds gadavavloT Tvali. 

maS, ase: Tea wulukiani 1975 

wlis 21 ianvars TbilisSi daibada. 

mis oficialur biografiaSi weria, 

rom 1992 wels safrangeTSi, lionis 

amperis saxelobis liceumi 

daamTavra, Semdeg ki swavla Tbilisis 

saxelmwifo universitetis 

saerTaSoriso samarTlisa da saerTaSoriso 

urTierTobebis fakultetze 

ganagrZo, romelic 1997 

wels daasrula. 

2000 wels wulukiani safrange- 

Tis saxelmwifo marTvis skolaSi 

(ENA) sajaro administraciaSi 

(MPA) magistris xarisxs icavs. 

2000-2010 wlebSi adamianis uflebaTa 

evropul sasamarTloSi sxvadasxva 

Tanamdebobaze muSaobda. 

2010 wlis 15 maiss Tea wulukiani 

saqarTveloSi brundeba da politikur 

partias _ „Cveni saqarTvelo 

_ Tavisufali demokratebi” 

uerTdeba. partiaSi is jer adamianis 

uflebaTa dargSi Tavmjdomaris 

mrCevlis Tanamdebobas ikavebs, 

mogvianebiT ki partiis Tavmjdomaris 

moadgile xdeba. 

2012 wlis pirveli oqtombris 

saparlamento arCevnebSi koaliciam 

_ „biZina ivaniSvili _ qarTuli 

ocneba” naZaladevis raionis 

maJoritari deputatobis kandidatad 

waradgina. wulukiani naZaladevis 

arCevnebs igebs, Tumca deputatad 

ar moRvaweobs, radgan 

2012 wlis 25 oqtombers saqarTvelos 

iusticiis ministrad iniSneba. 

im dros, roca ministri gaxda, 

wulukianis garSemo Savi Rrublebi 

ukve iyo Sekrebili. yvelaferi 

ki 2012 wlis saarCevno kampaniis 

dros daiwyo, roca iTqva, rom Tea 

wulukiani im mosamarTlis Svilia, 

romelmac „TviTmfrinavis biWebs” 

daxvretis ganaCeni gamoutana. obieqturobisTvis 

unda iTqvas, rom 

es imTaviTve feikinformacia gaxldaT 

da ai, ratom: 

marTalia, wulukianis mama sab- 

WoTa sasamarTloSi muSaobda, magram 

„TviTmfrinavis biWebi” mas ar 

gausamarTlebia. TavisuflebisTvis 

mebrZoli qarTveli axalgazrdebi 

sasikvdilo eSapotze mosamarTle 

Temur gersamias ganaCeniT 

avidnen. 

ase iyo Tu ise, „TviTmfrinavis 

biWebis” saqmesTan wulukianis mibma 

ar gamovida. samagierod, igive 

2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebis 

dros gavrcelebul informacias, 

rom iusticiis momaval ministrs 

naZaladevis raionis deputatis 

mandatis miRebaSi Savi samyaros 

warmomadgenlebi exmarebodnen, 

didi gamoxmaureba da aJiotaJi 

moyva. zogi eloda, rom wulukiani 

am braldebas uaryofda, 

magram aRmoCnda, rom is „Savi samyaros” 

warmomadgenlebs araTu icnobda, 

aramed maTTan erTad fotosuraTebic 

hqonda gadaRebuli. 

wulukianisa da e. w. kriminaluri 

avtoritetis, soso joxaZis 

megobrobis Sesaxeb informacia Tavdapirvelad 

„nacionaluri moZraobis” 

maSindelma wevrma, giorgi 

kandelakma gaavrcela. kerZod, 

2013 wlis agvistos miwuruls giorgi 

kandelakma sazogadoebas Sokismomgvreli 

informacia miawoda: 

„qveyanaSi kriminali dRiTi dRe 

izrdeba, rasac Sss acnobierebs, 

magram araswori meTodebiT _ reidebiT 

ebrZvis. 

am fonze aRmoCnda, rom iusticiis 

ministri Tea wulukiani aris 

kriminaluri samyaros erT-erTi 

cnobili warmomadgenlis, soso 

joxaZis megobari. amaze metyvelebs 

gavrcelebuli skandaluri 

fotoebi. 

soso joxaZis saxels gasul 

wlebSi ukavSirdeba araerTi gaxmaurebuli 

danaSauli, maT Soris, 

2001 wels sastumro „saqarTvelosTan” 

momxdari kriminaluri 

garCeva, romlis drosac manqaneb- 

Si araerTi adamiani Cacxriles. 

aseve, 2006 wels, „cixis buntis” 

dros, is iyo „kritis” e. w. mayurebeli 

da „cixis buntis” erT-erTi 

organizatori. 

im fonze, roca kriminalTan 

mebrZoli adamianebi _ baCo axalaia 

da vano merabiSvili _ cixeSi 

sxedan, iusticiis ministris megobroba 

kriminalur avtoritetTan 

saWiroebs ganmartebebs. sazogadoeba 

Tea wulukianis mxridan ganmartebas 

moelis”. 

iusticiis ministrma sazogadoebis 

molodini lamis erTTviani 

dumilis Semdeg daakmayofila, anu 

man daadastura, kriminalur avtoritetTan 

suraTi marTlac rom 

hqonda gadaRebuli, Tumca iqve am 

fotos gadaRebis aseTi istoria 

SemogvTavaza: 

„es foto aris amoWrili didi 

fotodan, sadac Cveni monazvnis 

sulieri Svilebi viyaviT Cais dasalevad 

Sekrebilni. 

kavSiri kriminalur 

avtoritetebTan da saeWvo 

diplomebi _ ratom Tqva 

strasburgul karieraze 

uari, ra misiiT dabrunda 

saqarTveloSi da ratom 

eSinia ivaniSvils 

iusticiis ministris? 

me dResac „viZieb”, Tu saidan 

moxvda es daWrili foto iq, sadac 

moxvda da amaze calke gadacema 

iqneba, albaT, saWiro”. 

aqve SegaxsenebT: soso joxaZis 

Zma, giorgi joxaZe, Sss-m 2013 wlis 

13 agvistos cecxlsasroli iaraRis 

ukanono SeZena-Senaxvisa da 

policiisTvis winaaRmdegobis gawevis 

braldebiT daakava. Sss-s cnobiT, 

dakavebisas man policielebs 

fizikuri winaaRmdegoba gauwia da 

sityvieri Seuracxyofa miayena. 

braldebulis piradi Cxrekisas 

„makarovis” sistemis cecxlsasroli 

iaraRi erTi mWidiT da 8 sabrZolo 

vazniT amoiRes, xolo 

Catarebuli sagamoZiebo moqmedebis 

Sedegad misi kuTvnili „audis” 

markis avtomanqanidan cecxlsasroli 

iaraRi _ „zigzaueri”, 3 mWidi 

da 42 sabrZolo vazna amoiRes. 

im dros, roca zemoxsenebuli 

skandali agorda, ukve dadioda 

xmebi imis Sesaxeb, rom wulukians 

im Tanamdebobis Sesabamisi diplomi 

ar hqonda, romelic ekava. es 

ambavi ki ase daiwyo: 

2013 wlis dasawyisSi, maSindeli 

umciresobis wevrma, deputatma 

goga xaCiZem, romelmac mogvianebiT 

„nacmoZraoba” datova da 

TanamoazreebTan erTad „girCi” 

daafuZna, gaavrcela informacia, 

rom wulukians iuristis diplomi 

ar hqonda da Sesabamisad, iusticiis 

ministris Tanamdeboba ar unda 

daekavebina. xaCiZem amis Sesaxeb 

vrceli statusi „feisbuqze” gamoaqveyna: 

„iuristebs! Jurnalistebs! sainformacio 

saSualebebs! ubralod, 

dainteresebul adamianebs!.. 

gTxovT, erTad gavarkvioT am 

postSi dasmuli sakiTxi. 

saqme exeba iusticiis ministrs, 

q-n Tea wulukians. 

kerZod, ramdenad kanonierad ukavia 

mas iusticiis ministris posti. 

i. javaxiSvilis saxelobis 

Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis 

saerTaSoriso samarTlisa da 

urTierTobebis fakultets hqonda 

ori profili _ samarTlisa da 

urTierTobebis. 

Tu q-ma wulukianma samarTlis 

profiliT ar daamTavra, es niSnavs, 

rom mas ar aqvs „umaRlesi iuridiuli 

ganaTleba”, rasac kanoni 

iusticiis ministris (Sesabamisad, 

prokuroris) postze dasaniSnad 

calsaxad iTxovs. 

kanonmdeblobiT, iusticiis ministri 

prokuroricaa. 

igi uflebamosilia, garkveul 

SemTxvevebSi pirs wauyenos brali. 

„muxli 31. 

prokurorad an prokuraturis 

gamomZieblad SeiZleba dainiSnos 

saqarTvelos moqalaqe, romelsac 

aqvs umaRlesi iuridiuli ganaTleba, 

flobs samarTalwarmoebis 

enas”. 

misi biografia ar amtkicebs, 

rom man „umaRlesi iuridiuli ganaTleba” 

miiRo. amis zustad dasadgenad 

misi diplomis naxvaa saWiro, 

saidanac gairkveva, ra aris misi specialoba: 

saerTaSoriso urTier- 

Tobebi Tu samarTali? es, praqtikulad, 

gadamwyveti momentia. 

2000 wlis seqtemberSi, evrosabWos 

mier Catarebuli konkursis 

Sedegad, Tea wulukiani adamianis 

uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos 

Statiani TanamSromeli gaxda. 

iuristis Tanamdebobaze mis movaleobebSi 

Sedioda: saqarTvelosa 

da nawilobriv ruseTis winaaRmdeg 

mimarTuli saCivrebis safuZvlianobis 

Seswavla, am saqmeebze 

gadawyvetilebaTa da ganCinebaTa 

SemuSaveba da gansaxilvelad maTi 

gadacema uflebamosili sasamarTlo 

organoebisTvis, saTaTbiro 

oTaxSi momxsenebeli mosamarTlis 

TanaSemweoba, saqarTvelodan Semosul 

saCivrebze momuSave danayofis 

xelmZRvaneloba da sxv. 

2005 wels Tea wulukianma miiRo 

ufrosi iuristis saklaso Cini. 

2006 wlidan iyo sasamarTlos reglamentis 

komitetis wevri, xolo 

2009 wlidan _ momxsenebeli erTi 

mosamarTlis mier gansaxilvel 

saqmeebze. 

2010 wlis 24 Tebervals igi 

gadadga dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan 

da saqarTveloSi dabrunda”. 

goga xaCiZis am „feisbuqgancxadebas” 

didi aJiotaJi moyva. aseve 

deputatma da maSindeli „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” wevrma, Ciora 

TaqTaqiSvilma, am sakiTxs vrceli 

statusi miuZRvna: 

„rogorc dRes safrangeTis el- 

Cmac daadastura, Tea wulukians 

safrangeTSi ar miuRia umaRlesi 

iuridiuli ganaTleba, aramed mi- 

Rebuli aqvs magistris xarisxi sajaro 

administrirebaSi. aq axali 

araferia. 

aseve araferia axali imaSi, rom 

safrangeTSic ver gaxdebi sisxlis 

samarTlis saqmeebze prokurori, 

miT umetes, generaluri prokurori, 

rac CvenTan igivea, rac iusticiis 

ministri, Tu ar gaqvs umaRlesi 

iuridiuli ganaTleba. 

Sesabamisad, dRes saqarTvelos 

hyavs arauflebamosili iusticiis 

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òcnebas~ aufeTqebs~ 

ministri, romelsac ar gaaCnia kanoniT 

gaTvaliswinebuli iuridiuli 

ganaTleba. 

saubari imaze, ena-s diplomiT 

risi gakeTebis ufleba aqvs safrangeTis 

kanonmdeblobiT safrangeTis 

moqalaqes, sxva diskusiis 

daZe daekavebina. arada, qarTuli 

presis arqivSi arsebobs wulukianis 

interviuebi, sadac is kalandaZis 

dakavebiT amayobs. 

ise, iyo dro, roca es qalbatoni 

irakli alasaniasTan megobrobiTac 

amayobda da acxadebda: 

sagania. magram, ki batono, 

„darwmunebuli var, rom 

amazec visaubroT da ganvixiloT 

dasaxelebuli ori magaliTi, sadac 

franguli kanonmdeblobiT 

araiuristebic SeiZleba dasaqmdnen 

da romelTac mosamarTleebic 

SeiZleba erqvaT. es aris finansuri 

kontrolis sasamarTlo (kontrolis 

palata) da saxelmwifo sabWo. 

es orive organo aris kvazi sasamarTlo 

instituti, anu maTi 

mTavari arsi, gansxvavebiT sxva 

qveynebis sasamarTloebisgan, emyareba 

imas, rom mxolod iuristebi 

ki ar unda wyvetdnen davebs biurokratiasa 

da moqalaqeebs Soris 

(saxelmwifo sabWo) an biurokratiis 

finansur darRvevebTan dakavSirebul 

sakiTxebze (finansuri 

kontrolis sasamarTlo (kontrolis 

palata), aramed amaSi kvalificiuri 

iuristebis garda Tavad 

maRali biurokratiuli gamocdilebis 

adamianebic unda monawileobdnen 

iuristebTan erTad. safrangeTSi 

damkvidrebuli tradiciiT, 

orive kategorias, iuristebsa 

da biurokratebs, am or institut- 

Si hqviaT mosamarTleebi. amas xsnian 

imiT, rom biurokratiuli gadawyvetilebebis 

Sefaseba aris ara 

mxolod samarTlebrivi, aramed sajaro 

interesidan gamomdinare mizanSewonilebis 

sakiTxi. TavisTavad, 

am midgomas bevri oponenti 

hyavs da amitomac sxva evropul 

qveynebSi aseTi midgoma ar aris 

gavrcelebuli. 

miuxedavad amisa, safrangeTis 

kanonmdeblobiT, arc saxelmwifo 

sabWo da arc finansuri kontrolis 

sasamarTlo (kontrolis palata) 

ar warmoadgens prokuraturas 

da miT umetes, arc erT mis 

araiurist mosamarTles ar aqvs 

ufleba, gansazRvros qveynis sisxlis 

samarTlis politika, gaaTavisuflos 

da daniSnos mTavari da 

sxva prokurorebi, miT umetes, 

sisxlissamarTlebriv bralmdeblad 

gamovides sasamarTloSi gaer- 

Tianebuli Stabis ufrosisa da 

sxva maRalCinosani samxedro mosamsaxureebis 

dapatimrebis moTxovniT, 

risi uflebac qarTuli kanonmdeblobiT 

aqvs iusticiis ministrs. 

sxvaTa Soris, Tea wulukiani, 

Tu amasac ar gvimalavs, aris 

saqarTvelos da ara safrangeTis 

moqalaqe, da didi survilis SemTxvevaSic 

ki, ver daikavebda verc safrangeTis 

finansuri kontrolis 

sasamarTlos (kontrolis palata) 

da verc saxelmwifo sabWos mosamarTlis 

Tanamdebobas, rom aRaraferi 

vTqvaT safrangeTis generaluri 

prokuroris Tanamdebobaze. 

amas mxolod imitom aRvniSnav, 

rom Tuki miTiTeba keTdeba imaze, 

risi ufleba aqvT safrangeTSi enas 

diplomiT, isic unda aRiniSnos, 

rom es vrceldeba TviTon safrangeTis 

moqalaqeebze, da verc er- 

Ti qveynis kanonmdeblobiT ver daregulirdeba 

is, saqarTveloSi 

generalur prokurors, igive iusticiis 

ministrs ra moeTxoveba da 

ra _ ara. 

saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT 

ki iusticiis ministri aris prokurori 

da mas unda hqondes umaRlesi 

iuridiuli ganaTleba. Tea 

wulukiani kanonis am moTxovnas 

isev ver akmayofilebs. 

meore sakiTxi, romelic dasaxelda, 

iyo is, rom Tea wulukians 

ena-s diplomiT ufleba mieca, 

muSaoba daewyo evropis adamianis 

uflebaTa sasamarTloSi erT-erT 

administraciul Tanamdebobaze. es 

miuTiTebs mxolod imas, rom Tea 

wulukianis profesiuli gamocdileba 

saTanadod miiCnies iuristis 

postis dasakaveblad, rac aravis 

dauyenebia kiTxvis niSnis qveS. 

magram es ar niSnavs, rom Tea wulukinisTvis 

unda arsebobdes gamonaklisi 

qarTuli kanonmdeblobidan, 

romelic garkveviT iTxovs 

ara iuristad muSaobis gamocdilebas, 

aramed umaRles iuridiul 

ganaTlebas iusticiis ministris 

postis dasakaveblad. 

amden iwilo-biwilos, barem 

aiReT pasuxismgebloba! aRiareT, 

rom daarRvieT kanoni, gaauqmeT 

kanonis darRveviT miRebuli gadawyvetilebebi, 

maT Soris, prokurorebis 

ukanono ganTavisuflebadaniSvnebi, 

ukanono prokurorebis 

mier ukanonod aRZruli sisxlis 

samarTlis saqmeebi da Semdgom 

vimsjeloT, mizanSewonilia Tu 

ara, Tea wulukianisTvis skamis 

SesanarCuneblad da mis ganaTlebaze 

kanonis mosargebad kanonmdeblobis 

moTxovnis Secvla da imis 

Cawera, rom iusticiis ministrs 

aRar sWirdeba umaRlesi iuridiuli 

ganaTleba. miT umetes, rom 

amis gakeTebas isedac apirebdiT, 

oRond imis aRiarebis gareSe, rom 

arafrad migaCniaT kanonis dar- 

Rveva da rom erT adamians gindaT 

moargoT axali kanoni”. 

giorgi kandelakis TqmiT ki 

„saswavlebeli, romelic Tea wulukianma 

daamTavra, iuristis 

diploms ar gascems. Sesabamisad, 

generaluri prokuroris rangSi 

wulukianis mier gacemuli yvela 

gadawyvetileba aris ukanono”. 

movianebiT, wulukiani iZulebuli 

gaxda, dumili daerRvia da 

Seecada, sakuTar udiplomobaze 

gavrcelebuli xmebi gaeqarwylebina. 

am mizniT man „sazogadoebrivi 

televiziis” gadacemaSi, romelsac 

im dros eka kvesitaZe uZRveboda, 

diplomebi miitana da ganacxada: 

„ENA-Si miviRe umaRlesi iuridiuli 

ganaTleba da ara marto 

umaRlesi, umaRlesis umaRlesi _ 

safrangeTSi arsebobs umaRles 

saswavlebelze maRla mdgari ramdenime 

dawesebuleba da erT-erTi 

aseTi skolaa ENA. ENA amzadebs 

administraciul mosamarTleebs. 

am sferoSi _ administraciul samarTalmcodneobaSi, 

evropul samarTalSi, 

adamianis uflebebSi 

iZleva iuridiul umaRles ganaTlebas. 

rac Seexeba qarTul kanons, 

is iTxovs, rom me viyo 

saqarTvelos moqalaqe da mqondes 

iuridiuli ganaTlebis umaRlesi 

diplomi. me maqvs ori diplomi 

ENA-dan: erTi diplomi, romelic 

adasturebs, rom me maqvs es ganaTleba 

da meore _ esaa xarisxi, 

romelic arCeviT iyo, magram me 

movipove. ase rom, qarTuli kanonis 

moTxovnas vakmayofileb. Cemi 

ganaTlebis warsuli arasdros 

yofila damaluli da parlamentis 

arc erT komitets amaze pretenzia 

ar gamouTqvams. parlamentma damamtkica 

im ganaTlebiT, ra ganaTlebiTac 

var. me kanonierad var im 

Tanamdebobaze, rasac hqvia iusticiis 

ministri da prokurori”. 

iusticiis ministris am nabijma 

SesaZloa, misi fanklubis wevrebis 

aRfrTovaneba gamoiwvia, magram 

sazogadoebas dRemde hgonia, rom 

wulukiani udiplomoa da Sesabamisad, 

mas ufleba ar hqonda, rom 

magaliTad, generali gigi kalan- 

saqarTveloSi alasanias da, saer- 

Tod, „Tavisufali demokratebis” 

msgavsi politikuri Zalebis dro 

modis! amaSi darwmunebuli imitom 

ki ar var, rom safrangeTSi viyavi 

gadakarguli da saqarTvelos realobas 

ar vicnob, aramed yvela 

reitingi adasturebs, rom ukiduresad 

gaWirvebul adamianebs 

aRar undaT ngreva da sisxli. 

roca xelisuflebaSi alasania mova, 

sajaro moxeles, Tuki mas danaSauli 

ar aqvs Cadenili, samsaxuridan 

ki ar daiTxoven, aramed karieruli 

winsvlis perspeqtiva eqneba” 

(aRniSnuli gancxadeba wulukianma 

2010 wels gaakeTa). 

sxvaTa Soris, dRemde pasuxgaucemelia 

kiTxva, _ adamiani, romelsac 

evrosasamarTloSi 65 wlis 

asakamde garantirebuli samsaxuri 

hqonda, am samsaxurze uars ratom 

ambobs da 2010 wels saqarTvelo- 

Si ratom brundeba? yuradReba miaqcieT: 

2010 wels biZina ivaniSvili 

politikurad jer gaaqtiurebuli 

ar aris da arc imis niSnebi Cans, 

rom erTi wlis Semdeg koalicia 

„qarTuli ocneba” dafuZndeba. 

alasanias partia ki didi gavleniT 

ar gamoirCeoda, anu imis molodini, 

rom aRniSnuli politikuri 

subieqti „nacionalur moZraobas” 

Secvlida, aravis hqonda. am fonze 

wulukianis Camosvla bevrisTvis 

amouxsneli iyo, Tumca 2012 wlis 

pirveli oqtombris mere ganvi- 

Tarebul movlenebs Tu gavaanalizebT, 

yvelafers naTeli moefineba, 

anu cnobilia, rom ivaniSvili 

safrangeTis moqalaqe gaxldaT. 

wulukianic, rogorc TviTon erTerT 

interviuSi ambobda, 16 wlis 

asakidan safrangeTSi cxovrobda, 

anu SeiZleba, davuSvaT varaudi, 

rom is saqarTveloSi sakuTari 

surviliT ki ar dabrunda, aramed 

Tavidanve im proeqtis nawili iyo, 

romelsac ivaniSvilis politikaSi 

Semosvla erqva. es SesaZloa, SeTqmulebis 

Teoriaa, magram wulukiani, 

principSi, is iSviaTi gamonaklisia, 

romelic 7 welia, Tanamdebobas 

ucvlelad inarCunebs da 

ramdenime dRis winac, roca man daaanonsasaviT, 

rom gundTan uTanxmoeba 

hqonda da Tu es uTanxmoeba 

ar mogvardeboda, iTqva, rom iusticiis 

ministri „ocnebas” aSanta- 

Jebda. bolos es uTanxmoeba mogvarda 

da wulukiani Tanamdebobaze 

darCa, anu kuluarebSi amboben, rom 

wulukianis gaSvebisa da Sesabamisad, 

misi alaparakebis „zeviT” Zalian 

SeeSindaT da amitomac masTan 

konfrontaciisgan Tavi Seikaves. 

ra icis wulukianma iseTi, risic 

daSlis piras misul „ocnebas” 

da aseve ivaniSvils eSinia? _ amis 

Sesaxeb dazustebiT, ivaniSvilis 

garda, aravis araferi moexseneba, 

Tumca wulukiani ivaniSvilisTvis 

Zvirfasi rom aris, ramdenime wlis 

winaTac gamoCnda, roca wulukianma 

alasanias „ocneba” amjobina da 

postze darCa. 

sxvaTa Soris, interviuSi, romelic 

qalbaton wulukians 2010 

wels aqvs micemuli, bevr saintereso 

miniSnebas akeTebs. „qronika+~ 

gTavazobT ramdenime pasaJs am interviudan: 

„_ qalbatono Tea, safrangeT- 

idan rodis da ratom dabrundiT? 

_ safrangeTidan 2010 wlis mais- 

Si imitom davbrundi, rom „Tavisufal 

demokratebs” gverdiT davdgomodi... 

_ saqarTveloSi, sadac aravin 

icis, ra elis, mxolod im sababiT 

dabruneba, rom alasanias gverdiT 

damdgariyaviT, myari argumenti 

araa. ver gavige, „Tavisu- 

fal demokratebs” iseTi ra xib- 

li aqvT, rom strasburgul kari- 

eraze uari TqviT? 

_ CemTan mimarTebiT adamianma 

SeiZleba, bevri sxva sityva gamoiyenos, 

magram ara _ xibli, radgan 

arc profesiuli da arc sxva gadawyvetileba 

xiblis gamo arasodes 

mimiRia. ise, Cemi gadawyvetleba, 

erTi SexedviT, sulelurad da gulubryvilod 

gamoiyureba, magram 

yvelaferi marTali martivi da gulubryviloa. 

mokled, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom 65 wlamde uzrunvelyofili 

posti, daculi uflebebi da 

Zalian maRali xelfasi mqonda, 

vTqvi, asaki memateba da Tu saqar- 

TveloSi axla ar davbrundi, aRarasodes 

aRar davbrundebi-meTqi. 

mokled, gadavwyvite, rom saqarTveloSi 

unda davbrunebuliyavi, 

magram ra unda gamekeTebina? erTi 

varianti, sadac SeiZleba, muSaoba 

damewyo, saqarTvelos sakiTxebze 

momuSave erT-erTi saerTaSoriso 

arasamTavrobo organizacia iyo. meore 

varianti ki is iyo, rom politikur 

procesebSi CavrTuliyavi 

da Tu am gadawyvetilebas miviRebdi, 

calsaxad vicodi, rom irakli 

alasanias gverdiT davdgebodi, 

Tumca ar mqonda pretenzia, rom 

partiaSi mosvlis dRidanve gamocdili 

politikosi viqnebodi... 

2000 wels, roca muSaoba strasburgis 

sasamarTloSi daviwye, mixeil 

saakaSvili iusticiis ministri 

iyo da saerTo nacnobis meSveobiT 

ministris moadgilis posti SemomTavaza. 

Tavdapirvelad es Semo- 

Tavazeba xumrobad miviRe, radgan 

ver warmomedgina, rom 25 wlis adamiani 

SeiZleba, ministris moadgile 

gamxdariyo. maxsovs, arc ki 

davfiqrebulvar, SemoTavazebaze 

uari ise vTqvi, Tan gamecina. asakisa 

da gamocdilebis garda arc imas 

dagimalavT, rom mixeil saakaSvili 

2000 wlis Semodgomidan Cems 

TvalSi simpaTiiT ar sargeblobda 

da ar mimaCnda, rom saqarTvelosTvis 

sikeTis motana SeeZlo. 

mogvianebiT, 2004 wlis gazafxulze, 

SemoTavazeba meored miviRe, 

romelic, ase vTqvaT, ori nawilisgan 

Sedgeboda, anu arCevans mTavazobdnen, 

_ mogvexmare, axalgazrda 

kadrebi gvWirdebao, Tumca am 

dros 25 wlis aRar viyavi... mokled, 

SemoTavazeba aseTi iyo: Tu 

maincdamainc safrangeTSi yofna 

mindoda, elCobas avirCevdi an 

saqarTveloSi davbrundebodi da 

erT-erTi ministris moadgiled 

daviniSnebodi. 

_ elCobasa Tu ministris mo- 

adgileobaze uari maSinve TqviT? 

_ ara, mosafiqreblad dro 

viTxove... 

rac Seexeba xelfass, strasburgSi 

Zalian maRali xelfasi mqonda 

_ TveSi 8 aTasi evro da amaze 

mets verc xelisufleba Semom- 

Tavazebda da verc _ alasania...” 

yvelafer aqedan naTeli xdeba, 

rom Tea wulukiani biZina ivaniSvilis 

didi Tavis tkivilia, anu es 

qalbatoni, ase Tu ise, idumalebiT 

aris moculi, romelmac saWiroebis 

SemTxvevaSi „ocnebas” SesaZloa, 

Zalian didi bombi aufeTqos, bombi, 

romelic mmarTvel gunds komaSi 

Caagdebs! 

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demografiuli katastrofa 

gaeros monacemebiT saqarTve- 

alvina aleqsaniani 

los mosaxleoba 2050 wels 30%-iT 

Semcirdeba. demografebis mosazrebebiT 

prognozi realuria. 2002 welTan SedarebiT saqarTvelos 

mosaxleobis raodenoba 15%-iT Semcirda da dRes, daax- 

loebiT, 3,7 milion adamians Seadgens. 

sa da mecnierebis mier gamarTuli 

mrgvali magidis dros „saqarTvelos 

demografiuli ganviTareba 

_ scenarebi da safr- 

Txeebi”. misive TqmiT, saqarTveloSi 

Sobadobis statistika 

ufro dabalia, vidre sikvdil- 

es, darRveulia. 1994 wlidan 

mosaxleobis procentuli wili 

0-14 wlis asakobriv jgufSi Semcirda 

da saqarTvelos statistikis 

erovnuli samsaxuris 

(„saqstati”) 2018 wlis monacemebiT, 

20%-s Seadgens. rac Seexe- 

90-ian wlebSi dabadebuli mosaxleoba 

2017-2018 wlebidan 

qorwinebisa da reproduqciuli 

potencialis asakSi Seva. gasuli 

saukunis bolos ki saqar- 

TveloSi Sobadoba Zalian dabali 

iyo, abortebis ricxvi _ ma- 

Rali. 

emuqreba Tu ara 

qarTvel ers 

ganadgureba?! 

vinaidan Sobadoba wlidan 

wlamde mcirdeba, sikvdilianoba 

izrdeba, emigrantTa raodenoba 

matulobs _ dRes, rogorc 

arasdros, saqarTvelo demografiuli 

katastrofis winaSe 

dgas. 

2014 wlis mosaxleobis sayovelTao 

aRweris Sedegebs Tu 

vendobiT, saqarTvelos mosaxleobam 

3 713 804 adamiani Seadgina 

da wina, 2002 wlis aRwerasTn 

SedarebiT, 657 731 kaciT 

aris Semcirebuli. gaerTianebuli 

erebis organizaciis mier 

Catarebuli kvlevebisa da demografiuli 

situaciis prog- 

nozis mixedviT, im SemTxvevaSi, 

Tu saqarTvelos demografiuli 

politika da strategia ar 

Seicvleba, qveynis mosaxleoba 

2050 wlisTvis 1,1 milioni adamianiT 

Semcirdeba. amasTan, es, 

ZiriTadad, qarTvel ers Seexeba. 

samagierod, navaraudevia 

eTnikuri azerbaijanelebis, 

daaxloebiT, 30%-iT, xolo eTnikuri 

somxebis 7%-iT gazrda. 

„saqarTvelo, faqtobrivad, 

demografiuli katastrofis 

winaSe dgas, es aris mTavari 

problema, dRes qveynis winaSe”, 

_ ganacxada profesorma anzor 

ToTaZem qveynis demografebi- 

`garda imisa, rom emigraciis Sedegad mcirdeba 

qveynis mosaxleobis raodenoba, emigracias Tan 

axlavs kvalificiuri kadrebis gadineba, rac 

amcirebs qveynis mwarmoeblurobas da kidev 

ufro auaresebs socialur-ekonomikur 

mdgomareobas. `saqstatis~ monacemebiT 

sazRvargareT wasulTa naxevarze meti 40 

wlamde asakisaa. kac emigrantTa 80%, xolo qal 

emigrantTa saSualod 68% imyofeba 40 wlamde 

asakobriv kategoriaSi, rac aSkarad metyvelebs 

imaze, rom qveynidan, gaWirvebis gamo gadis 

Sromisunariani da reproduqciuli xalxi~ 

`demografi anzor ToTaZe: `demografiuli 

situaciis gasaumjobeseblad saqarTvelom 

weliwadSi, daaxloebiT, 500 milioni lari 

unda daxarjos. vinaidan ekonomikuri xazi dRes 

arc iseT sasurvel mdgomareobaSia, qveynis 

ekonomikur gajansaRebas rom velodoT, eri 

daberdeba da bunebrivi mateba aRar iqneba. 

erma Tavad unda gadairCinos sakuTari Tavi~ 

ianobis. ToTaZis gancxadebiT, 

Tu saqarTvelo dauyovnebliv 

ar imoqmedebs da ar gamoasworebs 

situacias, rigi regionebi 

erTmaneTis miyolebiT dacarieldeba. 

Sobadobis done, sikvdilianobasa 

da migraciis maCvenebeli 

aris erT-erTi ZiriTadi faqtori, 

romelic qmnis mosaxleobis 

struqturas da ganapirobebs 

mosaxleobis ganviTarebas 

nebismier qveyanaSi. mosaxleobis 

struqtura da dinamika gansazRvravs 

adamianur resursebs 

grZelvadiani socialur-ekonomikuri 

ganviTarebisTvis. mosaxleobis 

dabalansebuli struqtura, 

romelSic axalgazrda, 

Suaxnisa da xandazmul moqalaqeebs 

Soris Tanafardoba problemebis 

gareSe unda icvlebod- 

ba 65 welze meti asakis mosaxleobis 

procentul maCvenebels, 

igi 10,5%-dan 15%-mde gaizarda. 

ToTaZe magaliTisTvis 

1897 wlis dabadebis maCvenebels 

asaxelebs da aRniSnavs, 

rom qveyanaSi 704 aTas bavSvze 

ufro meti iyo, vidre moxuci. 

1989 wels es maCvenebeli 300 

aTasamde Semcirda, xolo 2015 

wels 69 aTass Seadgenda. 

bolo 25 weliwadia, bevr regionSi 

mosaxleobis bunebrivi 

kleba saSiS zRvars uaxlovdeba. 

finansuri problemebis gamo 

adamianebi Tavs arideben ojaxis 

Seqmnas, Semcirda qorwinebebi, 

imata ganqorwinebebma. eqspertTa 

varaudiT, uaxloes periodSi 

es maCvenebeli mniSvnelovnad 

gauaresdeba. varaudi gamyarebulia 

im mosazrebiT, rom 

saqarTvelos demografTa 

asociaciis wevris, soxumis saxelmwifo 

universitetis aso- 

cirebuli profesoris, Tamar 

SinjiaSvilis SefasebiT: saqar- 

TveloSi demografiul mdgomareobas 

arTulebs isic, rom 

dReisTvis erTdroulad dgas 

rogorc mosaxleobis Semcirebis, 

ise daberebis zrdis problema. 

emigraciis maRali maCvenebeli 

kidev ufro amwvavebs demografiul 

mdgomareobas. mZime 

ekonomikuri pirobebis gamo 

bolo wlebSi qveyana milionamde 

adamianma datova, ris Sedegadac 

axalgazrda asakobrivi 

jgufis Semcireba da 60 wels 

gadacilebuli mosaxleobis wilis 

gazrda aRiniSneba, rac 

mosaxleobis daberebas niSnavs. 

garda imisa, rom emigraciis 

Sedegad mcirdeba qveynis mosaxleobis 

raodenoba, emigracias 

Tan axlavs kvalificiuri kadrebis 

gadineba, rac amcirebs 

qveynis mwarmoeblurobas da 

kidev ufro auaresebs socialur-ekonomikur 

mdgomareobas. 

“saqstatis” monacemebiT sazRvargareT 

wasulTa naxevarze 

meti 40 wlamde asakisaa. kac emigrantTa 

80%, xolo qal emigrantTa 

saSualod 68% imyofeba 

40 wlamde asakobriv kategoriaSi, 

rac aSkarad metyvelebs 

imaze, rom qveynidan, gaWirvebis 

gamo gadis Sromisunariani da 

reproduqciuli xalxi. aseT vi- 

TarebaSi, dRes, roca saqarTvelo 

mudmivad icleba qarTvelebisgan, 

emigrantebis samSobloSi 

dabrunebaze ufro didi sazrunavi 

xelisuflebasa da mTavrobas 

ar unda hqondes. samwuxarod, 

am mxriv mdgomareoba namdvilad 

problemuria da aTeuli 

wlebia, ver moxerxda emigrantebis 

dabrunebis samTavrobo 

programis damuSaveba. 

qarTvel demografTa monawileobiT 

2016 wels SemuSavda 

„saqarTvelos demografiuli 

usafrTxoebis koncefcia”, romelic 

saqarTvelos parlament- 

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ma 2016 wlis 24 ivniss daamtkica. 

parlamentma saqarTvelos 

mTavrobas daavala, rom 2017 

wlis pirvel ivnisamde daemtkicebina 

samoqmedo gegma, romelic 

iTvaliswinebda demografiuli 

politikis SemuSavebas, magram 

am sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani 

problemis mosagvareblad 

aqamde gatarebuli zomebi 

aSkarad ar aris sakmarisi. 

praqtikulad, dRes saqarTveloSi 

demografiuli sakiTxebi 

saxelmwifo politikis doneze 

ignorirebulia. demografiuli 

iniciativis ganxorcieleba xom 

Zalian did finansur daxmarebasTan 

aris dakavSirebuli. 

sad aris damosavali? 

demografi anzor ToTaZe: 

„demografiuli situaciis gasaumjobeseblad 

saqarTvelom 

weliwadSi, daaxloebiT, 500 

milioni lari unda daxarjos. 

vinaidan ekonomikuri xazi dRes 

arc iseT sasurvel mdgomareobaSia, 

qveynis ekonomikur gajansaRebas 

rom velodoT, eri 

daberdeba da bunebrivi mateba 

aRar iqneba. erma Tavad unda 

gadairCinos sakuTari Tavi”. 

vinaidan demografiuli problemebis 

warmoqmnis mTavari 

mizezi ara mxolod socialurekonomikuri 

mdgomareoba da 

qveynidan migraciaa, aramed sazogadoebis 

cnobiereba, To- 

TaZe mis mier SemuSavebul specialur 

programas gvTavazobs, 

romelic qarTuli genofondis 

gadarCenisTvis saWiro finansur 

daxmarebas moipovebs da, 

rac ufro mTavaria, aamaRlebs 

erovnul TviTSegnebas. proeqti 

iTvaliswinebs sigaretebze 

aqcizuri gadasaxadis momatebas 

30 TeTriT, alkoholuri 

sasmelebis fasebis gazrdas 50 

TeTriT, gadasaxadis dawesebas 

bavSvebis aryolis SemTxvevaSi 

(yovelTviurad ara umetes sami 

larisa), ori lari daekisros 

TiToeul dasaqmebul moqalaqes 

da saxelmwifos _ 1%. ToTaZe 

darwmunebulia, rom am gziT 

SesaZlebelia weliwadSi 500 milionis 

Segroveba da eris gadarCena. 

imis Sesamowmeblad, aris 

Tu ara eri mzad aseTi cvlilebebisTvis, 

demografma kvleva 

Caatara TbilisSi, mcxeTamTianeTSi, 

qarTlSi, imereTsa 

da kaxeTSi. respondentTa umravlesoba 

dadebiTad miudga 

fasebis gazrdas da gadasaxadis 

SemoRebas demografiuli situaciis 

gasaumjobeseblad. To- 

TaZis gancxadebiT, am fuliT 

qveynis Sobadoba unda waxalisdes, 

magram jerjerobiT es mxolod 

mTavrobisTvis SeTavazebuli 

proeqtia, romelsac mmarTveli 

gundi sakmaris yuradRebas 

ar aqcevs. 

demografiul problemebs 

sxvadasxva dros sxvadasxva mmarTveli 

Zala gansxvavebulad 

ebrZoda. Tumca faqtia, rom 

problema problemad rCeba da 

uaresdeba, rac kidev erTxel 

migvaniSnebs 2050 wlis gardauval 

negatiur demografiul 

viTarebaze. 

SegaxsenebT: gaeros monacemebiT 

saqarTvelo, iaponiasTan 

da bulgareTTan erTad, aseve 

Sedis gadaSenebis safrTxis winaSe 

myofi erebis xuTeulSi. 

N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w. 


Cemi skola 

skola 32 wlis win davamTavre. 

bavSvobis mogonebebi ar xundeba 

CemTvis gansakuTrebuli siurprizi 

„qronika+~-is redaqciaSi Cemi istoriis 

maswavleblis, oTar kikvaZis stumroba 

iyo. erTmaneTi movikiTxeT, skolis wlebi 

gavixseneT, erTmaneTs quTaisuri am- 

bebi gavuziareT. 

im dRis mere periodulad Semomivli- 

da, momikiTxavda, mamxnevebda, daTos 

sasamarTlo procesebze dadioda. 

sul axlaxan ki es werili momitana, 

sadac, SeZlebisdagvarad, Cveni skolis 

istoria, pedagogebi da moswavleebi 

gaixsena. 

„kvaxis skola” omis Semdeg qalaqis 29- 

e skolis saxelwodebiT iyo cnobili, 1960 

wels ki quTaisis koloritul ubanSi, 

„zastavaze”, axali Senoba aages da rvawliani 

skolac gaixsna. skolis direqtorad 

dainiSna abesalom balanCivaZe, romelic 

am postze 37 weli emsaxura ganaTlebis 

sistemas. direqtoris moadgile, anu saswavlo 

nawilis 

gamge, daviT abramiZe 

gaxda, romelic, 

sul male, qalaqis 

me-18 skolaSi gadaiyvanes 

da 29-e skolis saswavlo 

nawilis gamge albert 

TevdoraZe gaxda, romelic 

20 wlis ganmavlobaSi ucvlelad 

muSaobda am Tanamdebobaze. pedagogebidan 

skolaSi erT-erTi pirveli mivida 

filologi eTer kiknaZe, romelic pedagogiur 

moRvaweobasTan erTad xelmZRvanelobda 

skolis profkavSirul organizacias. 

1962 wels skolam saSualo skolis 

statusi miiRo, gaizarda klasebis raodenoba. 

37 wlis ganmavlobaSi saswavlo process 

xelmZRvanelobdnen daviT abramiZe, 

albert TevdoraZe, lamara bagrataSvili, 

lamara leJava, oTar kikvaZe da nodar mukbaniani. 

skolam kursdamTavrebulTa pirveli 

gamoSveba 1965 wels izeima. skolis 

kursdamTavrebul istorikos Temur melaZisa 

da inJiner murman mamageiSvilis TaosnobiT 

1967 wlis kursdamTavrebulTa 

50 wlisTavisadmi miZRvnili saiubileo 

sazeimo Sekreba moewyo. petre-pavles eklesiaSi 

gardacvlilebisTvis locva-kur- 

Txeva skolis yofilma moswavlem, Temur 

arvelaZem aRasrula. abesalom balanCiva- 

Zis mondomebiT 1971 wlis pirvel seqtem- 

saswavlo nawilis 

gamge - oTar kikvaZe 

saswavlo 

nawilis gamge 

- lamara 

leJava 

bers axali saswavlo 

wlis dawyeba skolis 

axal SenobaSi 

vizeimeT. skolis istorias 

SemorCa qarTuli 

literaturis pedagogis, 

lola Wabukianis mier mowyobili 

literaturuli saRamoebi. 

mis gverdiT moRvaweobda axalgazrda 

energiuli pedagogi nana dvaliSvili. 

1965 wlis maisSi, faSistur germaniaze 

gamarjvebis 20 wlisTavaTan dakavSirebiT, 

skolaSi moewyo sazeimo Sexvedra samamulo 

omis gmir kowia tyablaZesan, 

polkovnik daviT gvetaZesTan da maruxis 

brZolebis monawile 808-e polkis mebrZol 

daviT CxobaZesTan. pedagogiuri 

sazogadoebis mier am wlebSi skola 2-jer 

dajildovda turistuli sagzuriT. skolaSi 

moRvaweobda pedagogTa Rirseuli 

pleada: tatiana guguSvili, liana qarselaZe, 

emuli verulaSvili, vano fxakaZe, 

daviT beroZe, cisana narsia, cisana bakuraZe, 

gulnara arwivaZe, mediko babunaSvili 

da mravali sxva. 8 maswavlebels mieniWa 

saxalxo ganaTlebis warCinebulis wodeba, 

pedagogTa nawils ufrosi da meTodisti 

maswavleblis rangi, xolo 3 pedagogi: 

marina ukleba, nodar mukbaniani da 

oTar kikvaZe dajildovda Rirsebis ordeniT. 

Sromis veteranis medliT dajildovda 

skolis damlagebeli qsenia Jor- 

bavSvobis 

mogonebebi 

ar xundeba 

Joliani. Cveni skolis pedagogebi sxvadasxva 

administraciul da meTodur Tanamdebobaze 

dawinaurdnen: giuli gviSiani 

_ skolis direqtorad, daviT beriZe _ 

skolis ganaTlebis meToduri samsaxuris 

ufrosad, Tamaz JorJoliani _ raionis 

fizkulturis maswavlebelTa gaerTianebis 

seqciis xelmZRvanelad, lamara leJava 

_ kooperatiuli teqnikumis direqtoris 

moadgiled, Semdeg qalaqis erT-erTi raionis 

ganaTlebis ganyofilebis gamged, 

aseve xelmZRvanelobda raionis qalTa asociacias. 

„Cemi pedagogiuri saqmianobis 

warmatebis safuZveli gaxda is 14 weli, 

romelic 29-e skolaSi gavatare. 

„dRemde mimyveba iq momuSave Tanam- 

SromelTa siyvaruli da pativiscema, maTi 

nugeSi, Tanadgoma Cemi rTuli cxovrebis 

umZimes wuTebSi”, _ ixsenebs lamara le- 

Java. amJamad q-ni lamara quTaisis moswavle-axalgazrdobis 

sasaxleSi agrZelebs 

moRvaweobas, axlaxan dajildovda Rvawlmosili 

quTaiselis sapatio sigeliT. 29- 

e skolas hyavs samagaliTo kursdamTavrebulebi: 

mecnierebaSi Tavisi sityva Tqva 

akademikosma beJan vaSakiZem; skolis kursdamTavrebulia 

Tbilisis saxelmwifo 

universitetis leqtori Tamar nadiraZe; 

akaki wereTlis saxelobis quTaisis saxelmwifo 

universitetis profesorebi istorikosi 

m. abramiZe, filosofosi goderZi 

TevdoraZe, medicinis profesori 

irina fxakaZe da universitetis proreqtori 

samecniero dargSi, maTematikis 

mecnierebaTa doqtori, profesori Salva 

kirTaZe; wamyvani specialisti da umaRlesi 

kategoriis eqimebi severion beriZe, 

ineza asaTiani, Jana rexviaSvili, irakli 

zibzibaZe, goCa kupraSvili, poeti eliso 

qarosaniZe da Jurnalisti eliso kilaZe, 

xolo Tamila gabunia qalaqis maswavlebelTa 

gaerTianeba solidarobis prezidentia. 

skolaSi funqcionirebda saarCevno 

ubani, romlis ucvleli Tavmjdomare 

gaxldaT abesalom balanCivaZe, mdivani 

gaxldaT nana dvaliSvili, moadgilis 

Tanamdeboba ekava keTilSobil pirovnebas, 

me-8 sagzao ubnis ufros vladimer 

SalamberiZes. 29-e skolam pedagogiuri 

institutis sabazo skolis funqcia SeiZina, 

sadac pirvel da meore safexuris 

praqtikas gadiodnen istoria-filologiisa 

da dawyebiTi fakultetis studentebi. 

leqciebis Casatareblad viwvevdiT 

profesorebs iona jRarkavas, daviT bregaZes, 

mixeil alaviZes, simon arvelaZes, 

nikoloz Ciqobavas, platon guduasa da 

sxvebs. skolaSi funqcionirebda musikaluri 

aTwledi, romlis dafuZnebasa da 

Semdgom winsvlaSi fasdaudebeli Sroma 

gaswia konservatoriis profesorma manana 

dadianma. 1997 wels skolis bazaze dafuZnda 

andria razmaZis saxelobis 41-e sajaro 

skola. 2018 wlis SemodgomaZe pedagog 

marina uklebas iniciativiT 23 wlis 

winaT gauqmebuli 29-e skolis pedagogTa 

Sexvedra moewyo. e. w. Zveli skolidan Sexvedras 

eswrebodnen pedagogebi: Cito 

qavzinaZe, emuli verulaSvili, mediko 

babunaSvili, mayvala sulaberiZe, lamara 

leJava da naTela TaTviZe. iyo bevri cremli, 

gardasuli dReebis gaxseneba da Rimili. 

Catarda pedagogiuri sabWos sxdoma 

nodar mukbanianis TavmjdomareobiT, 

gavixseneT gardacvlili kolegebi. pedagogebi 

imeds gamoTqvamen, rom skolas 

Zveli nomeri daubrundeba”. 

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megobrebma uikendis qalaqgareT gatareba gadavwyviteT da gezi 

kaxeTisken aviReT. konkretuli marSruti ar gvqonia _ iq gavCerde- 

bodiT, sadac guli gvikarnaxebda. gzad erT-erTma Cvenganma gviTxra, 

modiT, kabalSi wavideT, Zalian magar qababs akeTeben da davagemovno- 

To. davTanxmdiT. 


gamisinjavs! 

ai, azerbaijanulma „suzmam” ki 

yovelgvar molodins gadaaWarba: 

„suzmas” mTavari ingredienti gawuruli 

mawonia, romelsac mwvanili 

_ kama, pitna da marili aqvs 

damatebuli. 

_ „trulaila”, modi, Sen gviTamade, 

_ vTavazob axlad gacnobils. 

megona, uars metyoda, magram 

damTanxmda, Tan daayola, _ mkacri 

Tamada var, roca me vlaparakob, 

Tu Tqvenc ilaparakebT, dagajarimebTo. 

_ mase iyoso, _ gavuRimeT. 

sufra tradiciuli sadRegrZeloebiT 

daviwyeT da, cota xanSi, 

rogorc xdeba xolme, sityva politikaze 

Camovarda. 

_ mogwons es mTavroba Tu miSa 

ufro mogwonda? _ vekiTxebi Tamadas. 

_ erTisac da meorisac, _ alalad 

mpasuxobs „trulaila”. 

_ salome zurabiSvils mieci 

xma? _ vagrZeleb. 

_ ara, mag qalis atana ar maqvs. 

_ es ambavi rodis moxda? 

_ erTi-ori weli iqneba gasuli. 

_ mere, dazaralebulma moZalade 

deputats ar uCivla? 

_ Civils ra azri hqonda? 

_ ratom ar hqonda? 

_ imitom ar hqonda, Zmao, rom 

miliciac amaTia, policiac da 

sasamarTloc. 

miSas dros raRac mainc keTdeboda, 

axla yvela sakuTari jibis 

gasqelebazea gadasuli. 

maSin xalxi Tu rames gaaprotestebda, 

cotas mainc igebdnen, axla 

ki xmas Tu amoiReb, egreve „nacionals” 

geZaxian. arada, amis deda 

vatire, „nacionaloba” ra SuaSia, 

roca lamis aris, SimSiliT amovwydeT! 

_ sofelSi ZiriTadi Semosavali 

ra aris? 

_ zogs saqoneli hyavs da rZemawons 

yidis, zogi miwas amuSavebs, 

magram esec gamarTlebazea _ Tu 

mosavali movida, cota mSvidad iqnebi 

_ gayidi da zamTrisTvis kartofili 

da fqvili mainc geqneba. 

bolos xan 120 lars miugdebdnen, 

xan _ 150-s. ramdenjerme gaaprotesta, 

xelfasi momimateTo, magram 

menejerma uTxra, Tu ar mogwons 

Cveni pirobebi, ager, kari mandaa da 

mibrZandio. „zato”, TviTon menejers 

aqvs xelfasi, amboben, TveSi, 

1200 laramde gamosdiso. 

_ sul cudze rom laparakob, 

davijero, kargi araferi xdeba? _ 

gamomwvevad vekiTxebi „trulailas”. 

Tanameinaxe, ufro sworad, sufris 

Tamada Tvals TvalSi miyris 

da sruli seriozulobiT mpasuxobs: 

_ ki, rogor ara, kargic xdeba. 

_ magaliTad? 

_ ai, Cems sidedrs sami Tvea, 

yurs daaklda da dasvenebuli var 

_ Cems „kneinasTan” saubari CurCuliT 

aRar miwevs. 

_ ooo, iumori ki gaqvs kargi! 

_ Zmis gulo, iumoric rom ar 

mqondes, suli gamZvreboda, _ calybad 

momigdo „trulailam” da Cveni 

gacnobis sadRegrZelo dalia. 

`rac òcneba~ 

movida, glexis 

saqme TandaTan 

ukan-ukan midis~ 

`samuSao adgilebi Seqmnan, xalxs puris 

fuli rom hqondes, Torem sul venaxis 

WigoebiT gavrekavT aqedan!~ 

kabali lagodexis municipalitetis 

sofeli, ufro sworad, Temis 

centria, rac imas niSnavs, rom 

ramdenime sofels _ Tavad kabals, 

ganjalas, uzunTalas, yarajalas 

aerTianebs. 

kabali alaznis vakeze, mdinareebis 

_ kabalisa da baisubnisxevs 

Soris, zRvis donidan 330 metrze, 

lagodexidan ki 15 kilometrSi 

mdebareobs. sofeli umetesad eTnikuri 

azerbaijanelebiTaa dasaxlebuli. 

2014 wlis aRweris monacemebiT, 

sofelSi 3238 adamiani 

cxovrobs. 

kabali bazrobiTaa ganTqmuli, 

anu sofelSi, rogorc varkvev, ori 

bazaria _ didi da patara. saqababe, 

romlis Sesaxebac mTel am mxareSi 

legendebi dadis, patara bazarTan, 

ufro zustad, bazris ezoSi mdebareobs. 

garedan verc SeatyobT, rom 

sazkvebis obieqtia _ Cveulebrivi 

erTsarTuliani saxli, anu rogorc 

kaxeTSi amboben, beletaJia. 

saxlis mopirdapired xisa da qviTkiris 

oTaxebi isea aSenebuli, rom 

saTavsebi gegonebaT, magram, sinamdvileSi, 

es kupeebia... 

maspinZeli, meuRlesa da Svili- 

TurT, ezoSi zis. magidaze nardi 

devs. pirveli, rac aq misulebs TvalSi 

mogxvdebaT, isaa, rom beletaJis 

sayrden kedelze didi abraa 

gamokruli, romelic gauwyebT, _ 

moweva ar SeiZleba da Tu darRvevas 

SeamCnevT, 112-Si darekeTo. 

Cemdauneburad profesia maxsendeba 

da anglobis ganwyobaze vdgebi: 

_ euh, pativcemul guguls aqamdec 

CamouRwevia! _ vambob da megobrebs 

TvaliT im abrisken vaniSneb, 

romelic sigaretis mowevas 

krZalavs. 

_ ras hqvia, CamouRwevia? _ gaocebas 

ver malavs megobrebidan 

erT-erTi, _ aqauroba istoriuli 

hereTia da, madloba RmerTs, dRes 

saqarTvelos ekuTvnis! 

_ ho, vici, vici, magram imis Tqma 

mindoda, rom megona, guguli marto 

qalaqelebs „gvisatkavebda”, 

arada, rogoria, sofelSi, sakuTar 

ezoSi adamians gabolebas rom aukrZalav?! 

_ Cemsas ar viSli. 

_ male veRar gavabolebT, _ daxvewili 

qarTuliT erTveba saubarSi 

azeri maspinZeli. 

_ ratom veRar gavabolebT? _ 

vinteresdebi. 

_ raRa ratom, magas kiTxva unda? 

amboben, rom male erTi „paCka” 

sigareti rva lari gaxdeba. qalaq- 

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Si SeiZleba, rva lari araferia, 

magram sofelSi amdeni fuli vis 

aqvs, rom dReSi rva lari papiros- 

Si gadaixados? Tan, zogs erTi 

kolofic ar hyofnis. 

_ e. i., sofelSi xalxs uWirs, 

ara? _ vcdilob, maspinZels dialogi 

gavuba. 

_ SeiZleba, Cvens sofelSi gaWirveba 

ar igrZnoba, radgan xalxs 

saTburebi aqvs, magram, saerTod, 

cxovreba Zalian garTulda, _ mpasuxobs 

azeri da saubris Temas 

cvlis, _ ramdeni qababi gindaT? 

_ ai, oTxni varT da, Seni azriT, 

ramdeni gveyofa? 

_ eqvsi Samfuri sakmarisi iqneba, 

_ mpasuxobs saqababis mepatrone 

da gezs samzareulosken iRebs. 

Cven, megobrebi, ezoSi vrCebiT. 

sanam qababi Seiwveba, iqve, soflis 

Saraze gavdivar. ramdenime 

wuTSi Suaxnis mamakaci miaxlovdeba. 

xelis aweviT mesalmeba da mekiTxeba: 

_ Zmao, marneuleli xar? 

_ ara, ra Sematyve? 

_ ra vici, Savgvremani xar da 

marneuleli megone. 

_ ara, ara, qalaqidan CamovediT 

megobrebi. Sen aqauri azeri xar? 

_ ara, azeri ar var, qarTveli 

var, mezobel sofelSi vcxovrob. 

_ ra gqvia? 

_ soso mqvia, magram yvela 

„trulailas” meZaxis. 

_ me giorgi var, _ xels varTmev, 

_ „trulailas”, albaT, imitom 

geZaxian, rom qeifi giyvars, ara? 

_ ho, egrea, Zmao. 

_ ras saqmianob? _ ar veSvebi. 

_ manqanebis xelosani var, „JeStianCiki”. 

Sen ra profesiis kaci 

xar? 

_ gazeTSi vmuSaob. 

_ aaa, Jurnalisti xar? _ xma 

Seecvala „trulailas”. 

_ xo, ra iyo? 

_ araferi, magram saSiSi xalxi 

xarT Jurnalistebi! 

_ ratom? 

_ ravi, Zmao, rames wamamacdevineb 

da mere gazeTSi gamamaWeneb, 

_ icinis „trulaila”. 

_ ra unda wamogacdevino, axla, 

Senc saxelmwifo saidumo ar icode, 

_ vexumrebi. 

amasobaSi qababi Seiwva da „trulailas” 

vTavazob, CvenTan erTad 

ivaxSmos. 

Tavidan iuarasaviT, magram bolos, 

mainc damTanxmda da facxaSi 

CvenTan erTad Semovida. 

rac marTalia, marTalia _ ase- 

Ti gemrieli qababi cxovrebaSi ar 

_ ratom, ra dagiSava? 

_ ra vi, Zmao, ver gavige, ra 

enaze laparakobs, Tan gaiZaxis, omi 

saqarTvelom daiwyoo da ai, egeTi 

prezidenti rom gvyavs, amitomac 

aris Cveni saqme kargad! 

_ arc biZina mogwons, ivaniSvili? 

_ ra vi, mag kacisac veraferi 

gavige, rom modioda, xalxs gvegona, 

bevri fuli aqvs da mogvxedavso, 

magram rac es „ocneba” movida, 

glexis saqme TandaTan ukan-ukan 

midis. 

_ ukan-ukan ratom midis? ai, 

xalxi xom Tavisuflad sunTqavs? 

_ vin giTxra, rom Tavisuflad 

vsunTqavT? 

_ aba, vinme ramis Tqmas giSliT? 

_ erTi, aqeT maixede, Zmao, _ 

„trulaila” aryis boTls xels 

hkidebs, _ mezobel sofelSi erTi 

Cemi nacnobis Svils, axalgazrda 

balRs, ici, ra uyves? 

_ ra uyves? 

_ am balRs skuteri hyavda da 

soflis centrSi daajiriTebda 

xolme. iqve soflis deputati cxovrobda. 

am kacs, Turme, ar moswonda 

am balRis jiriTi. 

_ ratom ar moswonda? 

_ xma aRizianebdao, egre Tqves. 

mokled, am biWisTvis uTqvams, meored 

aqeT gamovlili ar gnaxoo, 

magram axalgazrdebs ras gaagebineb? 

hoda, kidev rom gauvlia soflis 

centrSi, am deputatis damqa- 

Sebs es balRi dauWeriaT, „padval- 

Si” CauTreviaT da erTi magrad 

ubeTqiaT. 

_ axla amas marTla ambob Tu 

igoneb? 

_ dedis suls geficebi, Tu 

vigonebde. 

ise, Sen gecodineba, marTalia, 

rom amboben, vinc rZe-mawons yidis, 

imaT gadasaxadebi unda gadaixadono? 

_ ho, egre amboben... me am mTavrobis 

cocxali da mkvdaric... 

_ ginebas ar viyoT, „trulaila”, 

Torem Senc dagiWern da mec 

zed mimayoleben, _ vexumrebi kaxels. 

_ damiWiron, magis dedac... cixeSi 

imaze safiqrali mainc aRar 

meqneba, puris fuli rogor viSovo. 

_ Svilebi ar gyavs? 

_ erTi Svili da erTi coli 

myavs, _ xumrobs. 

_ erTi, aba, maS, ramdeni coli 

unda gyavdes? 

_ kaco, sayvareli ar myavs, ra 

ver gaige? _ icinis. 

_ coli diasaxlisobs Tu sadme 

muSaobs? 

_ soflis ambulatoriaSi 

muSaobda, magram vuTxari, iq wasuli 

aRar daginaxo-meTqi. 

_ ra iyo, xom ar ieWviane? 

_ vieWviane ki arada, isa... 

_ aba, „gruzinuli” CagerTo da 

coli samsaxurSi amitom aRar 

gauSvi? 

_ ara-meTqi, ara. 

_ aba, nu momkali, miTxari, ra 

moxda? 

_ ra modxa, Zmis gulo da, dilidan 

saRamomde ambulatoriaSi 

iyo Cemi dedakaci, zogs Wrilobas 

uxvevda, zogs _ nemss ukeTebda. sa- 

Ramos Sin rom modioda, Wamis Tavic 

ar hqonda. kapikebs uxdidnen da 

vuTxari, daje, qalo, saxlSi da mag 

fuls me mogcem-meTqi. 

_ xelfasi ramdeni hqonda? 

_ viriviT amuSavebdnen da Tvis 

am saubriT, cxadia, realurad 

ver gadmovcem im problemebsa da 

gaWirvebasac, rasac xalxi ganicdis. 

ise, Tu gaxsovT, saprezidento 

arCevnebis pirveli turis Semdeg, 

roca mmarTveli gundi mixvda, rom 

„ocnebeba” xuxulasaviT Tavze eSleboda, 

„ocnebis” bosebma gadawyvetileba 

miiRes, rom mTeli „ocneba” 

_ didian-patarianad, xalSi 

gasuliyo da mohfereboda, magram 

es dapirebac dapirebad darCa. 

„trulailas” vkiTxe, _ romelime 

„ocnebeli” xom ar mogferebiameTqi? 

jer almacerad Semomxeda, 

_ Sena, imnairi xom ar ggonivaro, 

magram mere, roca avuxseni, ra moferebasac 

vgulisxmobdi, erTi 

daiWixvina da momaxala: 

_ magaTi mofereba ra Cem fexebad 

minda? magaT urCevniaT, samuSao 

adgilebi Seqmnan, xalxs 

puris fuli rom hqondes da Tu 

ase ar moiqcevian, maSin sul ai, 

venaxis WigoebiT gavrekavT aqedan! 

kargi iqneba, Tu am kaxeli glexis 

nafirq-naazrevs xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi Tvals gadaavleben 

da yvela simarTlis mTqmels 

„nacs” ki ar dauZaxebs, aramed sakuTar 

TavSi daiwyebs problemis 

Zebnas, Torem is krizisi, romelic 

dRes qveyanaSi arsebobs, yvelaze 

Zviri maT daujdebaT, radgan xalxi 

brZenia da zustad icis, rom 

qveyana, romelmac aRa-mahmad-xans 

Tu Turq-selCukebs gauZlo, viRacebis 

merkantilur interesebs ar 

unda gadahyves. amitomac, sanam romelime 

Zalad gadidkacebuli ifiqrebs, 

rom ca qudad ar miaCnia da 

dedamiwa _ qalamnad, jobia, Rrmad 

CaisunTqos da imaze daiwyos fiqri, 

xalxis risxvisgan Tavi rogor 

unda daicvas! 

34 N9 (270) 19.03-25.03.2019 w.


rogoria nata guliaSvilis politikuri gegmebi?! 

nata guliaSvili qarTvelma may- 


urebelma wlebis winaT realiTi 

555 42 42 90 

Sou „amtanebidan” da teleserial 

„muskulebidan” gaicno. msaxiobi 

araerTi saRamos organizatoria da sxvadasxva RonisZieba mihyavs, 

Tumca sul axlaxan gadawyvita, rom sakuTari SesaZle- 

blobebi politikaSi scados da is Tako Carkvianis mier axlad 

Camoyalibebul partiaSi „kanoni da samarTali” gawevrianda. 

nata guliaSvilis gamoCenas sazogadoebis mxridan araerTg- 

varovani gamoxmaureba moyva. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom is kidev 

erTxel gaxda bulingis msxverpli da, arc meti arc naklebi, 

rogorc Tavad ambobs, politikam megobrebic ki daakargvina. 

rogoria axalgazrda msaxio- 

bis politikuri gegmebi? ratom 

gadawyvita politikaSi wasvla? 

vin da ratom emuqreba mas so- 

cialuri qselis meSveobiT? _ am 

da sxva saintereso sakiTxebze 

„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs nata 

guliaSvili pasuxobs: 

_ nata, namdvilad waxvediT 

politikaSi? 

_ namdvilad wavedi politika- 

Si da gavwevriandi Tako Carkvianis 

axal politikur partiaSi 

„kanoni da samarTali”. vfiqrob, 

Zalian kargi nabiji gadavdgi da 

saqarTvelosTvis bevr karg saqmes 

gavakeTeb. 

_ magaliTad, ras gaakeTebT? 

rogor warmogidgeniaT Tqveni 

Tavi qarTul politikaSi? 

_ sakmaod kargad verkvevi politikaSi 

da bevr politikosTan 

vmegobrob. araerTxel mqonda 

SemoTavazeba, rom politikuri 

partiis warmomadgeneli vyofiliyavi, 

Tumca, ratomRac, aqamde 

Tavs vikavebdi. qveyanaSi Zalian 

bevri usamarTloba xdeba da vecdebi, 

rom igi aRmoifxvras. 

`me da anri bibineiSvili wlebis megobrebi 

viyaviT. roca man televiziidan Seityo, rom 

me Tako Carkvianis partiaSi gavwevriandi, 

damireka da miTxra: mag partiaSi gawevrianeba 

aris Zalian didi sircxvili da me SenTan 

vwyvet yvelanair urTierTobaso. es sityvebi 

rom movismine, SokSi Cavvardi~ 

`xma unda 

amoviRoT da 

erTad davdgeT 

saqarTvelos 

sadarajoze~ 

kriminali ise gamZvinvarda, rom 

yoveldRe saSineleba xdeba. 

dRis 3 saaTze rom adamians manqanaSi 

Cacxrilav da ver gamoi- 

Zieb, romel samarTlianobaze 

unda visaubroT? amas winaT 

televizorSi movusmine, rom 

erT RameSi erT ubanSi gaZarcves 

zustad 26 manqana. aseve „Tibisi 

bankis” saqme mec Zalian Semexo, 

radgan masTan vTanamSromlob da 

marTla usamarTlobaa, rac am 

bankis garSemo xdeba. ar awyobT 

anakliis portis proeqti, radgan 

am yvelafris ukan ruseTi 

dgas da ramdeni xani unda iyos 

xalxi Cumad, ar vici. realurad, 

yvela xvdeba, Tu ra dReSic 

varT, magram xmamaRla aravin 

saubrobs. Sesabamisad, mec Sevematebi 

im adamianebis rigebs, romelTac 

samarTlis aRdgena da 

normalur qveyanaSi cxovreba 

undaT. usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg 

yovelTvis gavilaSqreb. 

_ ras niSnavs TqvenTvis 

politika? 

_ xSirad amboben, rom politika 

binZuri saqmeao, magram aranairad 

ar aris binZuri saqme. Sen 

Tu SegiZlia sufTad gaakeTo is 

yvelaferi, rasac politika moi- 

Txovs, ratom aris politika bin- 

Zuri? baton biZinas, im 100 sawarmodan 

5 rom mainc gaekeTebina, 

Tqven warmoidgineT, ramdeni adamiani 

dasaqmdeboda, xalxi regonebSi 

wavidoda da yvela TbilisSi 

ar Camovidoda. nebismier 

adamians urCevnia iyos Tavis saxlSi, 

Tavis qalaqsa Tu sofelSi, 

magram ra qnan, araa samuSao 

pirobebi, Camodian da taqsaoben 

imis gamo, rom ojaxSi ori TeTri 

Seitanon. 

_ Tqven weRan aRniSneT, rom 

sxva politikuri partiebidanac 

mqonda SemoTavazebao. ratom 

maincdamainc Tako Carkvianis 

partia da ara sxva romelime? 

_ garkveuli wlebis manZilze 

dedaCemi da Tako erTad muSaobdnen 

da mec, faqtobrivad, televiziaSi 

gavizarde. rodesac Takom 

gadawyvita, rom politikuri 

partia Seeqmna, me da deda davukavSirdiT 

da SevTavazeT, rom 

Cvenc gvindoda partiaSi gawevrianeba. 

aqamde uamravi SemoTavazeba 

mqonda sxva politikuri 

partiebidan, magram mainc Tavs 

vikavebdi, Tumca axla qveyanaSi 

iseTi gamouvali mdgomareobaa, 

rom siraqlemis pozaSi yofna 

ukve danaSaulia da yvelam xma 

unda amoviRoT. garda amisa, qalbatoni 

Tako Carkviani gaxlavT 

Zalian Wkviani, ganaTlebuli, patrioti 

da qveynis erTguli adamiani. 

is namdvilad aRasrulebs 

kanons da samarTals , meamayeba, 

rom, ubralod, var am partiis 

wevri da mec patara wvlils Sevitan 

qveynis winsvlaSi. 

_ Tako Carkvianma ganacxada, 

rom nata guliaSvili ar aris 

gundis wevrio... 

_ diax, radgan es gundi gacilebiT 

adre Camoyalibda, vidre 

me mivedi. gundSi aris 6 adamiani, 

xolo partiaSi aris bevri da 

mec erT-erTi wevri var. Cven ufro 

mWidrod vapirebT TanamSromlobas. 

_ ra saxiT apirebT Tanam- 

Sromlobas? rogoria Tqveni 

gegmebi? 

_ sxvadasxva problemas SevexebiT, 

Tumca Zalian minda, rom 

socialuri sakiTxebiT davkavde 

da am mimarTulebiT vimuSao. 

vnaxoT, winaswar verafers getyviT. 

Zalian guli Semtkiva ruse- 

Tis mier okupirebul teritoriebze. 

Cven varT ruseTis msxverpli. 

rodis moundeba da Semoi- 

Wreba rusis jari, ar viciT. mar- 

Tla RmerTis imedze varT dar- 

Cenilebi. mwyins, rodesac xelisufleba 

dums da aranairi reagireba 

ar aqvs. ver mivxvdi, ras 

akeTeben eseni, ra undaT, rom 

nel-nela davuTmoT ruseTs Cveni 

miwebi? yvelam kargad viciT, 

rom ruseTi okupantia da yvelam 

erTad unda amoviRoT xma da er- 

man TqvenTan urTierToba? 

_ diax. Cemi varaudi aseTia. 

anri meriaSi muSaobs da mgonia, 

rom iq daavales, ase moqceuliyo. 

vuTxari kidec, _ politika 

wyvets Cvens megobrobas-meTqi? 

da _ kio, me SenTan aRar vimegobrebo. 

es imdenad Soki iyo, rom 

Zalian ganvicade. me mas warmatebas 

vusurveb cxovrebaSi, Tumca 

misi aseTi saqcielis gamo Sokirebuli 

var. 

_ nata, socialur qselSi 

aseve werdiT, rom adamianTa 

garkveuli jgufi gemuqrebodaT, 

anu muqaris werilebi mogdiodaT. 

iqneb, ufro konkret- 

ulad gviTxraT, visgan da ra 

Sinaarsis werilebi mogdiodaT? 

_ yoveldRiurad momdis uamravi 

werili, maTgan umetesi wili 

trolia. yvela meubneba, _ ra 

ginda mag partiaSi, 9 weli magaTma 

daaqcies saqarTveloo da 

saSinel raRacebs mweren. 

_ Tako Carkviani ra SuaSia 

ganvlil 9 welTan da „naciona- 

lur moZraobasTan”? 

`siraqlemis pozaSi 

yofna ukve danaSaulia~ 

Tad davdgeT saqarTvelos sadarajoze. 

saxelmwifos imedi er- 

Ti wuTiT ar maqvs. 

_ nata, Tqven socialur qselSi 

werdiT, rom politikam me- 

gobari damakargvinao. kerZod, 

saubrobdiT msaxiob anri bibi- 

neiSvilze. ra moxda realurad? 

_ me da anri bibineiSvili wlebis 

megobrebi viyaviT. roca man 

televiziidan Seityo, rom me Tako 

Carkvianis partiaSi gavwevriandi, 

damireka da miTxra: mag 

partiaSi gawevrianeba aris Zalian 

didi sircxvili da me SenTan 

vwyvet yvelanair urTierTobaso. 

es sityvebi rom movismine, 

SokSi Cavvardi. 

_ radgan Tqven partiaSi gawevriandiT 

da politikaSi wasv- 

la gsurT, amis gamo gawyvita 

_ iqidan gamomdinare, rom 

yrilobaze eswrebodnen „nacionaluri 

moZraobisa” da ara marto 

maTi warmomadgenlebi, meubnebian, 

rom „nacionalebi” da 

Carkvianis partia erTi da igive 

partia ariso. am adamianebis 

dablokvas ver avudiodi. 

_ da muqara sad ikveTeba? 

_ mwerdnen, rom ase gaagr- 

Zele, biZina lanZRe da rac mogiva, 

Sens Tavs daabraleo. 

_ mokled, kidev erTxel 

gaxdiT bulingis msxverpli. 

rogor umklavdebiT am yve- 

lafers? 

_ vcdilob, ar avyve. kidev 

erTxel gavxdi bulingis msxverpli 

da uaressac velodebi, magram 

vecdebi, rom vaJkacurad 

gavarTva Tavi am yovelives. 

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35

mixeil basilaZe 

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi 

ix. „qronika+~ (2018w.) 

##3-27;29-39; (2019w.) #2-6;8. 


municipaluri arCevnebi baTumSi 

1920 wlis martis erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi 

Tema baTumsa da ba- 

Tumis olqs ukavSirdeba. am Temis 

Sesaxeb gazeTi „saqarTvelo” mTeli 

Tvis ganmavlobaSi intensiurad 

werda da sakuTar mkiTxvels yovel 

nomerSi sxvadasxva tipis informacias 

sTavazobda. baTumis sakiTxis 

gaaqtiureba saqalaqo arCevnebsa 

da am arCevnebidan gamomdinare 

baTumis olqis kuTvnilebas 

ukavSirdeboda. saqarTvelos mTavrobam 

swored am arCevnebis Sedegebis 

Semdeg gaaaqtiura qveynis SemadgenlobaSi 

baTumis olqis dabrunebisken 

mimarTuli moqmedeba. 

4 marts gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

baTumis saqalaqo arCevnebis Sesaxeb 

vrcel werils aqveynebs, saidanac 

irkveva, rom arCevnebSi damajerebeli 

gamarjveba qarTulma Zalam 

moipova: „baTomis saqalaqo 

arCevnebi qarTvelobis brwyinvale 

gamarjvebiT dasrulda! 36 adgilidan 

20 qarTveli deputati iqna 

arCeuli. sxva siebma erTi ori adgili 

Tu moipoves da am rigad baTomis 

saqalaqo saqmeebis mmarTva-gamgebloba 

qarTvelobas miakuTvna. 

diadia mniSvneloba am gamarjvebisa! 

diadia sixaruli, romli- 

Tac unda moicvas mTeli qarTveli 

eri, baTomis gamarjvebis gamo! 

mas Semdeg, rac bedis ukuRmarTobam 

baTomi saqarTvelos Camoacila, 

es saqarTvelos uZvirfasesi 

kuTxe srulebiT Camoscilda Tavis 

deda-samSoblos gavlenasac da 

ucxoelTa gamgeblobis asparezad 

gaiSala. jer osmalebma gaxades 

Tavis saTareSod igi da swoves misi 

sisxli, rogorc SeeZloT. osmalni 

ganidevnen baTomidan, magram saqarTvelos 

kanonieri uflebani mainc 

ver iqmna aRdgenili. qalaqsa 

da mTels mxares daepartrona britaneTi, 

magram faqtiurad mis sardlobis 

magier, baToms denikinis 

agentebi daeuflen da qarTuli 

qalaqi „moxaliseTa” saTareSo asparezad 

gadiqca... 

yoveli gamvleli Tavis pretenzias 

acxadebda baTomsa da mis olqzed, 

xolo antanti mdumare Sescqeroda 

im avantiuras, romelsac 

amzadebden es elementebi saqarTvelos 

sawinaaRmdegoT. imis mtkicebaSi 

iyvnen, rom baTomis mkvidri 

mosaxleoba winaaRmdegia saqarTvelosTan 

SeerTebisa: ai, amis- 

Tvis aris sayuradRebo baTomis 

saqalaqo arCevnebis Sedegi. yvela 

jgufebi xelCarTul brZolisTvis 

dairazmen am arCevnebSi, yovelma 

jgufma moaxdina sruli mobilizacia 

Tavis Zalebis, radgan yvelam 

igrZno, rom baTomis arCevnebs udidesi 

mniSvneloba eqneboda baTomis 

sakiTxis gardawyvetaSi. amomr- 

CevelTa saerTo ricxvidan uCveulo 

procenti gamocxadda yuTebTan 

_ ase didi iyo interesi am arCevnebisadmi 

da ra sTqva am arCevnebma: 

absoluturi umravlesoba miakuTvna 

qarTul sias sxva yvela 

danarCen pretendentebis sastik 

damarcxebiT... 

saqarTvelosTan SeerTeba _ ai, 

es aris baTomis sityva, romlis 

uaryofa ukve aRaravis SeuZlia. es 

sityva iseT pirobebSi, rodesac 

baTomis mcxovrebni ucxo saxelmwifos 

xelis uflebis qveS imyofebodnen 

da srulebiT moSorebulni 

iyvnen saqarTvelos gavlenas, miT 

met mniSvnelobas da Zalas iRebs 

baTomis arCevnebiT Tqmuli sityva!” 

baTumis arCevnebis SedegebTan 

dakavSirebiT specialuri sityva 

warmoTqva saqarTvelos sagareo 

saqmeTa ministrma evgeni gegeWkorma. 

am sityvas gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

srulad 4 martis nomerSi beWdavs. 

rogorc gegeWkorma aRniSna, es 

arCevnebi formalurad ki iyo municipaluri, 

magram sinamdvileSi 

igi politikur plebiscitad gadaiqca, 

romelmac daadastura, rom 

baTumis olqis mosaxleobas saqarTvelosTan 

SeerTeba surs da ba- 

Tums saqarTvelos ganuyofel nawilad 

aRiqvams. 

am gancxadebamde 2 dRiT adre, 

1920 wlis 2 martis „saqarTvelo- 

Si” dabeWdilia qarTvel mahmadianTa 

mejlisis mimarTva amierkavkasiaSi 

didi britaneTis umaRlesi 

komisris, oliver uordropis mimarT. 

am mimarTvaSi aRniSnulia, 

rom ramdenime Tvis win uordropma 

samarTlianad miiCnia qarTveli 

eris miswrafeba damoukideblobisaken 

da misi didi xelSewyobiT, 

sazavo konferenciam saqarTvelos 

damoukidebloba de-faqto aRiara. 

am gadawyvetilebam qarTvel ers 

Caunerga imedi, rom uordropis 

mxardaWeriT saqarTvelos sasargeblod 

gadawydeboda baTumis sakiTxic. 

es mimarTva, romelsac boloSi 

mejlisis Tavmjdomare memed-beg 

abaSiZe awers xels, ase 

sruldeboda: „baTumis olqis mcxovrebTa 

saxeliT, umorCilesad 

gTxovT, Tqveno maRalkeTilSobilebav, 

miiRoT saTanado RonisZiebani 

baTomisa da misi olqis saki- 

Txis uaxloes xanaSi gadasaWrelad 

da amiT 6 wlis omiT gatanjul 

xalxs Tavisuflad agrZnobinoT 

Tavi Tvis istoriul samSoblos 

farglebSi. amas moiTxovs rogorc 

mcxovrebTa survili, ise baTomis 

olqis saarsebo interesebi”. 

avtokefaliis aRdgenis iubile 

1917 wlis 12 marts mcxeTaSi, 

sveticxovlis Zvel sakaTedro 

taZarSi qarTulma samRvdeloebam 

ruseTis imperiis mier asi wlis winaT 

gauqmebuli avtokefalia aRadgina. 

am RirsSesaniSnav TariRTan 

dakavSirebiT gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

1920 wlis 28 martis nomerSi specialur 

werils uZRvnis, romelic 

qarTuli eklesiis damoukideblobis 

mniSvnelobas exeba. garda amisa, 

am statiaSi ganxilulia is sami welic, 

romelic qarTulma eklesiam 

ukve damoukideblad gaiara: „dRes 

sami weli Sesrulda, rac saqarTvelos 

eklesia ganTavisuflda ruse- 

Tis monobisagan da Tavisi avtokefalioba 

ganagrZo. 

saqarTvelos eklesias brwyinvale 

istoria aqvs da warsul saukuneTa 

svlaSi maRla etara wminda 

droSa saeklesio kulturuli da 

sulieri siamayisa. da dResac rogori 

azrisac ar unda iyvnen sazogadod 

eklessiazed, ar SeiZleba 

mowiwebiT ar movixsenioT is Rvawli, 

romelic Tavis eris winaSe miuZRvis 

qarTvel samRvdeloebas: 

maSin rodesac modunebuli iyo 

erovnuli grZnoba da damonebuli 

Cveni samSoblo mZime uRlis qveS 

drtvinavda qarTveli, samRvdeloebaSi 

namdvili patriotuli suli 

Rvioda da medgar brZolas 

awarmoebda TavisuflebisaTvis. 

1917 wels eklessiis ganTavisufleba 

iyo pirveli Tavis amarTva 

erovnuli sulisa da kaTalikosis 

Tavzed mbrwyinavi Zveli qarTuli 

siamayis da warsuli saukuneTa 

didebis da saqarTvelos erovnulsaxelmwifoebrivi 

ganTavisuflebis 

winamorbedi. 

dRes saeklesio cxovreba ukve 

im xanSi gadavida, rodesac man mxolod 

Tavisi pirdapiri saqme unda 

Seasrulos da eklesiis saqmeebzed 

izrunos. Cveni valia, vinc am eklesias 

vekuTvniT da mis rwmenaSi 

aRvzrdilvarT da viziarebT, mivideT 

damxmare xeliT qarTvel sam- 

RvdeloebasTan da mivceT mas sa- 

istoriis 

Sualeba, pirnaTlad aasrulon 

Tavisi movaleoba. rogorc saxelmwifo, 

ise sazogadoeba movalea 

izrunos misTvis, rom qarTvel 

morwmuneTa grZnobebi Selaxuli 

ar iyvnen miT, rom RvdelT-msaxurebas 

saTanado pirobebi ar eqmnebaT 

Tavis samsaxurisTvis”. 

1920 wlis 

goris miwisZvris Sedegebis 

aRmofxvra 

gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 1920 wlis 

martis gamocemebSi, TiTqmis, yovel 

nomerSi uTmobs adgils gorSi 

momxdari damangreveli miwisZvris 

salikvidacio samuSaoebs. gorSi 

miwisZvra 1920 wlis 19 Tebervlidan 

20 Tebervlis Rames moxda da 

misma simZlavrem rihteris skaliT 

6 bals gadaaWarba. meore dRes 3 

saaTze miwisqveSa biZgebi kvlav ganmeorda 

da amjerad is gacilebiT 

Zlieri iyo. 8-balianma miwisZvram 

qalaqsa da goris mazris sofleb- 

Si TiTqmis yvela Senoba daangria 

da 200-mde moqalaqis sicocxle 

imsxverpla. 

gazeTi „saqarTvelo” iuwyeba, 

rom ubedurebis adgilze saku- 

Tari korespondenti gagzavna, romelic 

gazeTs uaxloes cnobebs 

adgilidan awvdida. 11 martis nomerSi 

dabeWdili informaciidan 

vigebT, rom gorSi miwisqveSa biZgebi 

kvlav grZeldeboda, Tumca TebervalTan 

SedarebiT niadagis ryeva 

gacilebiT susti iyo. magali- 

Tad 9 marts miwa Seirya, magram mas 

ngreva ar mohyolia. 

daiwyo qalaqis ganaxlebis samu- 

Saoebi. nangrevebidan amoiRes fosta-telegrafis 

mowyobilobebi, 

biblioTekisa da sxvadasxva laboratoriis 

inventari. muSaoba ganaaxla 

xazinam, fostam, erobam. am 

uwyebis TanamSromlebisTvis mowyobili 

iyo specialuri droebiTi 

barakebi. qalaqis sxvadasxva nawil- 

Si gaixsna ramdenime sadalaqo, kooperativi, 

duqani da restorani. 

inJinerTa azriT, gorSi axali 

qalaqi unda SeeqmnaT. sacxovrebeli 

saxlebi iaponiisa da inglisis 

msgavsad xisgan aSendeboda da er- 

TmaneTisgan xexilis baRebiT iqneboda 

daSorebuli. 

gazeT „saqarTvelos” korespondenti 

zogierT problemazec saubrobs: 

„ar SeiZleba mwuxarebiT ar 

aRvniSno erTi garemoeba, romelic 

ase sastikad aSfoTebs dRes goris 

yvela dazaralebul moqalaqes. 

am Jamad didi arev-darevaa sursa- 

Tis danawilebaSi. Cven ar viciT, 

riT xelmZRvaneloben, roca sursaTsa 

da fqvils ar urigeben yofil 

vaWrebs da saxlis patronebs. 

Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, rom am Jamad 

gorSi arc erTi furne ar arsebobs, 

advili misaxvedria, Tu ra 

gaWirvebas unda ganicdidnen es gamorCenili 

da ganwiruli moqalaqeni”. 

miwisZvris Sedegebis aRmosafxvrelad 

Seqmnilma teqnikurma sazogadoebam 

6 da 7 marts daaTvaliera 

dazaralebuli raionebi da 

aRdgeniTi samuSaoebisTvis RonisZiebebi 

dasaxa. saWiro iyo usaxlkarod 

darCenili moqalaqeebis- 

Tvis droebiTi barakebis aSeneba. 

unda daengriaT is Senobebi, romelic 

adamianis sicocxles safrTxes 

uqmnida. goris mTavari quCebi 

msgavsi nagebobebisgan ukve gawmendili 

iyo, magram qalaqSi mainc 

mravlad rCeboda dangrevis piras 

mdgomi saxlebi. daisaxa nangrevebidan 

saxelmwifo qonebis amoRebisTvis 

saWiro RonisZiebebi. pirvel 

rigSi unda aRdgeniliyo eleqtrosadguri, 

wisqvili, qarxnebi 

da sxva strategiuli obieqtebi. 

18 marts gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

statias aqveynebs, romelic qalaq- 

Si devnilebis dabrunebas exeba. am 

statiidan Cans, rom gori isev dangreulia, 

magram xalxi sakuTari 

keris aRdgenas rac SeiZleba male 

cdilobda: „qalaqidan wasulni 

nelnela brundebian. qalaqis piras 

xidTan ukve hxedavT gacxarebul 

muSaobas _ ficris oTaxebs da 

fardulebs hkraven saswrafod. 

wvril-wvrili duqnebic gaRebulia 

sawvrilmanoTi. Tumca dazianebul, 

magram Ziris sarTulSi 

gadarCenil darbazSi gaxsnila 

rigian sasadilo restoranic. mis 

gverdiT xorcis duqanSic gaCaRebula 

vaWroba. ager sadalaqodanac 

xedavT gamosul wver-ulvaS gakeTebul 

gorelsac. ai, urmebic 

kombostoTi datvirTuli mimavalebi 

sadgurisken. yafanTanac 

Sejgufebula xalxi, _ etyoba 

vaWroba amoZravebula. aqa iq cecxlis 

mqrobelTa razmelebi saarako 

TavdadebiT ebrZvian nangrevTa 

uvargis nawilebs. fostis, erobis, 

qalaqis gamgeobis dawesebulebaTa 

karic gaRebula da saqmianobas 

Sesdgomian”. 

kriminaluri qronika 

1920 wlis 10 martis gazeT 

„saqarTvelos” cnobiT, sadgur 

sanainTan borotmoqmedebma gaZarcves 

somxeTidan saqarTveloSi 

momavali samgzavro matarebeli. 

SeiaraRebulma yaCaRTa jgufma memanqanes 

matarebeli gaaCerebina, 

Semdeg ki vagonebSi myofi mgzavrebis 

Zarcvas Seudga. gazeT „saqarTvelos” 

informaciiT, gaZarcves 

azerbaijanis diplomatiuri warmomadgeneli 

somxeTSi, romelic 

TbilisSi miemgzavreboda. rogorc 

irkveva, mas 5 milion 400 aTasi 

maneTi waarTves. 

9 marts gaZarcves fasanauris 

samxedro gzis monakveTis ufrosi 

a. CxeiZe. igi avtomobiliT Tbilis- 

Si miemgzavreboda da Tan muSebis 

xelfasi _ milion 200 aTasi mane- 

Ti mihqonda. me-12 versze mas avazakebma 

gadauWres gza da mTeli 

Tanxa waarTves. 

30 martis gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

ityobineba, rom axalcixeSi upatronod 

datovebuli meCeTis Senobebi 

adgilobrivi mcxovreblebis 

mier umowyalod iZarcveboda. 

mosaxleoba salocavebidan xsnida 

xis CarCoebs, karebs, liTonis nake- 

Tobebs. zogan meCeTebs fanjrebi 

da sawvimari milebic ki ar Sear- 

Cines. 

stolermanis sasamarTlo 

procesi 

1920 wlis martSi TbilisSi sasamarTlo 

procesi daiwyo, romelmac 

sazogadoebis didi interesi 

gamoiwvia. saqme exeboda 1920 wlis 

15 ianvars saqarTvelos saxelmwifo 

operis diriJor samuil ale- 

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ucnobi qronika 

marti 

qsandres Ze stolermanis mier sakuTari 

meuRlis _ aleqsandra fedotis 

asul stolermanis mkvlelobas. 

yuradRebas is garemoeba 

iqcevda, rom mkvleli Tavad gamocxadda 

miliciaSi, brali aRiara, 

magram gamoZiebam igi ar daapatimra 

da sasamarTlo garCevamde diriJori 

Tavisuflebaze datova. 

am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT gaze- 

Ti „saqarTvelo” 5 da 6 marts vrcel 

reportaJs beWdavs. 5 martis 

nomerSi am mkvlelobis istoriaa 

moTxrobili, 6 marts ki mkiTxveli 

uSualod sasamarTlo darbaz- 

Si ganviTarebul movlenebs da ganaCens 

ecnoba. 

sasamarTlo garCeva 3 marts 

daiwyo da mas saqarTvelos iusticiis 

ministri raJden arseniZec 

ki eswreboda. winaswari gamoZiebiT 

gamoirkva, rom stolermanma Tavisi 

momavali meuRle cimbirSi, ker- 

Zod ki irkutskSi gaicno, sadac is 

adgilobrivi operis diriJori gaxldaT, 

xolo qali ki TeatrSi 

damwyebi msaxiobi iyo, romelic 

dramatul rolebs asrulebda. 

isini gacnobidan weliwad-naxevar- 

Si SeuRldnen da stolermanma, 

romelic ebraeli iyo, am qorwinebis 

gamo, qalis moTxovniT, marTlmadideblobac 

ki miiRo. magram 

rogorc reportaJidan Cans, maTi 

ojaxi ar iyo bednieri da amis 

mizezi stolermanis meuRlis anCxli 

xasiaTi gaxldaT: „qmari iyo wynari, 

mSvidi, susti nebis patroni, 

amasTanave susti janmrTelobiT. 

coli ki nebis patroni, savse Zal- 

RoniT. qmari nakleb iyo Caxeduli 

praqtikul cxovrebaSi, coli ki 

marTavda ojaxs da ver iTmenda 

Tavis survilebis CaSlas Tu ausruleblobas. 

aseTi urTierToba 

hqondaT Tavis qmarTan da aseve eqceoda 

sxvebsac. is Tavis qmrisgan 

srul morCilebas iTxovda, mis Semosavalsac 

is ganagebda. xSirad 

yofila SemTxveva, stolermans maneTi 

ar hqonia jibeSi. 

coli ereoda mis musikalur 

saqmeebSi, lanZRavda qmars, eZaxda 

urias, idiots da sxva. erTxel 2-3 

wlis wined essentukis parkSi Tavis 

qmars didi skandali Seuqmna da 

qolgiT gamoekida sacemlad. stolermani 

eZebda musikaSi ara marto 

saSualebas, aramed umaRles estetiur 

tkbobasac. coli misi ki 

sul fulebze hfiqrobda da yovelTvis 

Zalas atanda mas, ufro meti 

honorari moeTxova. 

ori wlis winad stolermanma 

saxelmwifo TeatrSi pirvel diriJoris 

adgili daiWira. es im xaneb- 

Si iyo, roca saqarTvelos damoukidebloba 

gamocxadda. stolermani 

didi yuradRebiT eqceoda 

pirvel qarTul operas „abesalom 

da eTeris”. bevri iSroma masze. 

ufro meti energia Seswira doliZis 

qarTul komikur opera „qeTo 

da kotes” SemuSavebas. 

mokle xanSi mas unda ediriJorna 

„abesalom da eTerisTvis”, magram 

coli amas win aRudga; mas sZulda 

qarTuli musika, ukrZalavda 

qmars, xelSi „abesalom da eTeri” 

aeRo da am operas viris operas 

uwodebda. erTxel man qmars ganucxada: 

Tu „abesalom da eTeris” 

partituras Tavidan ar moiSoreb, 

me dagixevo”. rogorc am reporta- 

Jidan Canda, stolermanis coli 

diriJors eWvianobis scenebs yoveldRe 

uwyobda, repeticiebis dros 

Riad dascinoda, mudam eCxubeboda, 

scemda, TmebiT iTrevda da saxes 

ukawravda. 

14 ianvars coli mas morig jerze 

eCxuba da saZineblidan gamoagdo. 

diliT stolermanma gadawyvita, 

„abesalom eTeris” partituraze 

emuSava, magram aRmoaCina, rom 

meuRlem partitura dauxia. am garemoebam 

diriJori ise aaRelva, 

rom man Tavisi „smit vensonis” sistemis 

revolveri aiRo da mZinare 

cols orjer esrola. gazeTi imasac 

mogviTxrobs, Tu rogor ganvi- 

Tarda movlenebi mkvlelobis Semdeg: 

„gamovida im oTaxSi, romel- 

Sic mTeli Rame imyofeboda da iq 

imyofeboda iqamde, sanam merZeve 

qalma karebze ar daukakuna, ramac 

is gamoarkvia srul apatiidan. 

is mivida colis gvamTan, misi 

qisidan asi Tumani amoiRo, dastova 

saxlSi revolveri, Caketa karebi 

da quCaSi gamovida. rusTavelis 

quCazed is Sehxvda „abesalom da 

eTeris” avtors z. faliaSvils da 

mas uambo momxdari ambavi. batonma 

faliaSvilma igi saxelmwifo 

Teatris komisarTan a. wuwunavas- 

Tan miiyvana, romelmac momxdari 

ambavi auwya, sadac jer ars. 

gvamis sasamarTlos samedicino 

gasinjvam daamtkica, rom stolermanis 

coli moklulia ori tyviiT. 

erTi mohxvedria marcxena safeTqelSi, 

xolo meore kefis marcxena 

nawilSi; orTave tyvia wasula tvinSi. 

stolermanis mier Cadenili 

mkvleloba ganxilulia, rogorc 

ganzrax mofiqrebuli da gayenebul 

aqvs dasj. deb. 1 naw. 1451 st, 

romlis ZaliTac braldebuli uvado 

katorRiT isjeba”. 

gazeT „saqarTvelos” 6 martis 

nomerSi mkiTxveli igebs, Tu riT 

dasrulda sasamarTlo procesi da 

ra miusajes colis mkvlel diri- 

Jors. 4 marts dRis 4 saaTze sasamarTlom 

gamoitana daskvna, romlis 

ZaliTac stolermani borotmoqmedebis 

Cadenis dros goneba 

dakargulad scno da sisxlis samarTlis 

pasuxismgebloba saerTod 

ar daakisra. rogorc Cans, colis 

mier devnili diriJori sasamarTlos 

ise Seecoda, rom Cadenili mkvlelobis 

miuxedavad, is sasamarTlo 

darbazidanve gaaTavisufles. 

sxvadasxva ambavi 

rogorc gazeT „saqarTvelos” 4 

martis nomeri iuwyeba, damfuZnebeli 

krebis wevrma, germanelma 

biulma, Sinagan saqmeTa ministrs 

SuamdgomlobiT mimarTa, raTa borCalos 

mazris or sofels _ ara- 

Sens da iakoblis _ saxeli Seecvalos 

da Sesabamisad daerqvas valdhaimi 

da bliumenfeldi. am Suamdgomlobas 

Tan erTvoda orive 

soflis glexobis Sesabamisi dadgenilebebi. 

6 marts miRebuli depeSis Tanaxmad, 

saqarTvelos satransporto 

sazogadoebam wyalSi CauSva 17 

aTasi fuTi wyalwvis gemi „qarTli”. 

rogorc cnobaSi weria, foT- 

Si gemis CaSvebis ceremonials daeswrnen 

damfuZnebeli krebis wevrebi 

spiridon kedia da aleqsandre 

asaTiani, agreTve satransporto 

sazogadoebis direqtorebi da fo- 

Tis sazogadoeba. 

qarTvelma arqeologebma mcxeTaSi 

Zveli samarxi aRmoaCines. 

amis Sesaxeb gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

17 martis nomerSi gvauwyebs: „martis 

14-s mcxeTis sakeramiko skolis 

gverdiT, gzis pirad gabo xubierovis 

saxlis saZirkvlis Txris 

dros, Zalian Rrmad, aRmoCnda 

didi akldama, gadaburuli didi, 

sufTa lodebiT. akldamis gaxsnisas 

aRmovaCineT uTavo ConCxi, Con- 

Cxis gverdiT: surebi, SuSis qilebi, 

sacremloebi, fulebi antoni 

romis keisris warweriT, beWdebi 

da sxva samkauli. samwuxarod, zogi 

nivTeuli patronma miiTvisa da 

SeZleba ar gvenaxa. yovelive es 

euwya saqarTvelos muzeumis samecniero 

sabWos, romelic imedia, 

daCqarebiT mixedavs am saqmes da 

amosTxris akldamis are-maresac _ 

mdidar warmarTul sasaflaos, 

sadac yvelaze metad, Cveni azriT, 

saintereso iqneba qarTul kerpebis 

koleqcia”. 

aWaridan ityobinebodnen, rom 

baTumisken momavali gemi „danube” 

navsadguramde 2 saaTis saval man- 

Zilze wyalqveSa naRms Seejaxa da 

afeTqda. gemze qarTvelebic imyofebodnen, 

romelTagan 20-mde daiRupa. 

rogorc irkveva, gemi bosforidan 

gamovida da naRms Ramis 

or saaTze gadaawyda. afeTqebis Zalisgan 

xomaldi Seirya da cxviriT 

wyalSi Cavida, Tumca ar CaZirula. 

nafici msajulebi 

1920 wlis 10 marts gazeTi „saqarTvelo” 

metad sayuradRebo informacias 

aqveynebs _ 8 marts, pirvelad 

damoukidebeli saqarTvelos 

istoriaSi sasamarTloSi saqme 

nafic msajulTa monawileobiT 

gairCa. saolqo sasamarTlos darbazSi 

18 nafici msajuli gamocxadda, 

romelTaganac 9 qali gaxldaT: 

„sxdomis gaxsnis win darbazi 

sazogadoebiT gaivso. arian: damfuZnebeli 

krebis Tavmjdomaris 

ufrosi amxanagi a. lomTaTiZe, s. 

mdivani, damfuZnebeli krebis wevrni, 

senatorebi, sasamarTlos, 

prokuraturisa da registraturis 

warmomadgenelni, presis warmomadgenelni 

da sxv. 

sabraldebo skamzea 15 braldebuli... 

darbazSi mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris 

noe Jordanias da iusticiis 

ministris r. arseniZis Semosvlis 

Semdeg sxdoma ixsneba. 

sasamarTlos wevri orjonikiZe 

mihmarTavs nafic msajulebs sityviT, 

romelSiac aRniSnavs nafic-msajulTa 

institutis did mni- 

Svnelobas. 

orjonikiZis sityvis Semdeg 

iusticiis ministrma r. arseniZem 

mihmarTa nafic msajulT sityviT, 

romelSic moagona nafic-msajul- 

Ta institutis didi daniSnuleba 

maTi ufleba-movaleoba”. rogorc 

28 martis nomridan irkveva, nafic-msajulTa 

siebi Tbilisis Semdeg 

Telavsa da siRnaRis mazreb- 

Sic Seadgines. 

12 marts TbilisSi damfuZnebeli 

krebis daarsebis wlisTavi izeimes. 

dilidanve mTeli qalaqi erovnuli 

droSebiT moirTo. mTavrobis 

sasaxlis win moewyo jarebis 

aRlumi. muSaTa sasaxlis win 

gaimarTa sazeimo mitingi, sadac 

Sekrebilebis winaSe profkavSirebis 

Tamjdomare xelaZe gamovida. 

11 saaTze damfunebeli krebis 

sxdomaTa darbazSi sazeimo sxdoma 

gaixsna da deputatebs sityviT 

aleqsandre lomTaTiZem mimarTa. 

saRamoTi qalaqSi sazeimo ganaTeba 

CarTes. muSaTa klubebSi da saxalxo 

saxlebSi gaimarTa mitingebi, 

romelsac auarebeli xalxi daeswro. 

kultura 

26 maiss klub „qimerionSi” poeturi 

dajgufeba „cisferi yanwebis” 

didi saRamo gaimarTa. rogorc 

gazeTi „saqarTvelo” gvamcnobs, am 

saRamosTvis qarTvelma poetebma 

gansakuTrebuli programa Seadgines. 

aq iyo warmodgenili rogorc 

saestrado, aseve sabaleto nomrebi. 

Sesrulebuli iyo xalxuri 

cekvebi, damswre publikam moismina 

simRerebi da axali leqsebi. sabaleto 

nawilSi cekvavda mocekvave 

lidia jonsoni, tangos asrulebda 

frangi qali truzi, romelsac 

kavalerobas uwevda velte. 

brwyinvale nomrebi Seasrula 

petrogradidan Camosulma boSaTa 

qorom fisenkos meTaurobiT. qarTul 

sacekvao nomrebs asrulebdnen 

Tavadi iase andronikaSvili, 

n. andronikaSvilis asuli da nina 

wereTeli. 

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi moxalise- 

Ta armiis damarcxebam saqarTveloSi 

devnilTa axali nakadi gamoiwvia. 

Tbiliss uamravi rusi xelovani 

moawyda, isini saqarTvelos 

dedaqalaqSi bolSevikur terors 

gamoeqcnen. am movlenas gazeTi 

„saqarTvelo” 26 martis nomerSi 

statias uZRvnis saTauriT: „ruse- 

Tis artistebi TbilisSi”: „denikinis 

frontis darRvevis gamo TbilisSi 

auarebeli rusis artistebi 

iyrian Tavs, rogorc odesidan da 

rostovidan, ise mineraluri wylebidan. 

Camosuli arian jer-jerobiT 

saimperatoro Teatris artistebi: 

tarasovi, xodotovi. foT- 

Si imyofeba mTeli moskovis samxatvro 

Teatri o. kniperis da v. ka- 

Calovis meTaurobiT da am dReeb- 

Si moelian TbilisSi. 

guSin Camovida agreTve i. maCabelis 

peterburgis Teatris „bi ba 

bo”-s mTeli dasi: konferansie 

karuxini, poeti ptuivcevi, q-ni neverovi 

da bevri sxva. „bi ba bo”-s 

artistebi pirvelaT gamovlen 

dRes „cisferi yanwebis” saRamoze 

klub „qimerionSi”. 

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movigeT, milton! gagiWirdebodaT... 

daekiTxeT qarTuli ragbis aTas 

qomags: ragbi evropis Cempionoba 

da ruseTTan gamarjveba rom 

daidos sasworis or pinaze, romels 

airCevs? 

gaeWvebT pasuxi? 

krasnodarSi daumarcxebelni 

ukve Cempionebis rangSi ki CavediT, 

magram okupantebTan mogeba is Carozia, 

nebismier sxva kerZs asmagad 

gemriels rom xdis. samwuxaroa, 

rom krasnodarSi moednis xarisxi 

veranair kritikas ver uZlebda da 

verc borjRalosnebma gaSales 

bolomde frTebi. 

martis yinvian wvimasa da lamis 

daWaobebul moedanze xeldaxel 

TamaSiT fons gasvla warmoudgenelia. 

hoda, milton heigma jiqur miwola 

brZana. ar gvexerxeba Tu ra?! 

qarTvelebma erTi teqnikuri da 

oric personaluri lelo ikmares, 

rac srulad Serkinebis damsaxureba 

iyo. 

22:6! _ istoria grZeldeba. 

saqarTvelo 1993 wlidan moyolebuli 

Cagravs ruseTs da gulSi 

xinjad is erTaderTi fre gvaqvs. 

ara uSavs. rac mTavaria, sezoni 

sruli triumfiT davasruleT. 

hiustoni kleim SeaCera 

NBA-s moqmedma Cempionma „golden steit voriorsma” 

„hiuston roketss” stumrad 106:104 mougo. 

aRsaniSnavia, rom „raketebi”, romlebic am Sexvedras 

SesaniSnav formaSi Sexvdnen, bolo 10 matCidan 

pirvelad damarcxdnen. 

matCSi saukeTeso meomarTa mcveli klei tompsoni 

iyo, romelmac parketi 30 quliT datova. gamor- 

Ceuli iyo kalifornielTa axali centri demarkus 

kazensic, romlis monagaric 27 qula, 8 moxsna da 7 

Sedegiani gadacema gaxda. 20-qulian niSnuls stumar- 

Ta kidev erTi moTamaSe stef kari gadascda, romelmac 

dabadebis dRe 24 quliT aRniSna. kevin diurants 

ar uTamaSia. 

rac Seexeba hiustonelebs, maTgan gamorCeuli, 

tradiciulad, jeims hardeni iyo, romelmac 29 quli- 

Ta da 10 pasiT ormag dubls uwia. dubli klint kapelamac 

gaiforma _ Sveicarielma san-fraciskoelebs 

13 qula Caugdo da burTi faridan amdenjerve moxsna. 

golden steiti 46 mogebiTa da 21 marcxiT dasavleT 

konferencias liderobs, hiustoni ki (42-26) 

meoTxe adgils ikavebs. 

didi maldini, 

patara 

maldini da 

mini-maldini 

22 marts italiis 18-wlamdel- 

Ta nakrebi holandiel Tanatolebs 

Sexvdeba. erTi SexedviT, es matCi 

aTobiT msgavsisgan arafriTaa 

gamorCeuli da arc Tqvens yuradRebas 

mivapyrobdiT, rom ara er- 

Ti saintereso garemoeba. 

saqme is aris, rom, savaraudod, 

holandielebTan SexvedraSi debiuti 

eqneba maldinebis safexburTo 

dinastiis mesame Taobas. 17 wlis 

daniel maldini „milanis” axalgazrduli 

gundis wevria, mimdinare 

sezonSi 22 matCSi miiRo monawileoba 

da 9 golic gaitana. es misi pirveli 

gamoZaxebaa italiis ragindara 

asakobriv nakrebSi. 

maldinebis safexburTo dinastia 

eqvs aTeul wels iTvlis da 

Tanabradaa gadajaWvuli „milan- 

Tan” da italiis nakrebTan. ufrosi 

maldini _ Cezare 1958-1963 wlebSi 

icavda erovnuli gundis Rirsebas 

da Tavad gansajeT, fexbur- 

Tis rogori jadoqrebis mxardamxar 

da winaaRmdeg uwevda TamaSi. 

mere paolos epoqa dadga. legendarul 

mcvels 1988 wels hqonda 

debiuti qveynis mTavar gundSi 

da „skuadra aZuras” erT-erT simbolod 

iqca. paolo or-orjer 

gaxda msofliosa da evropis Cempionatebis 

vercxlisa da brinjaos 

priziori. paolom 14 weli ibur- 

Tava nakrebSi da mxolod 2002 

wlis msoflio Cempionatis dasrulebis 

Semdeg daemSvidoba mas. 

dRes paolo „milanis” direqtoratis 

wevria da ara mxolod 

klubSi, zogadad, italiur fexburTSic 

wonadi sityva eTqmis. amis 

miuxedavad, kategoriuli winaaRmdegia, 

sakuTari avtoritetiT gaukvalos 

gza dinastiis yvelaze 

umcros warmomadgenels. 

daniele maldinis yvelafris 

damtkiceba Tavadve mouwevs, Tumca 

sastarto pirobebi Cinebuli 

aqvs. amboben, 22 marts savse tribunebi 

da JurnalistTa arabunebrivi 

miZaleba holandielebTan 

matCze, ZiriTadad, swored misi 

damsaxureba iqnebao. 

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zidanma 

ederi 

kargad 

daviwyebuli 

Zveli 

daimata 

axal kontraqtze melani jer ar SemSraliyo da 

zinedin zidanma pirveli fexburTeli ukve daimata. 

ufro sworad, zafxulidan daimatebs, Tumca saqme 

ukve gaCarxulia. 

21 wlis centraluri mcveli eder militao braziliuri 

„san paulus” aRzrdilia da „portuSi” 2017 

wels gadabargda. mokle droSi man ara mxolod gundis 

ZiriTad SemadgenlobaSi daimkvidra adgili, seqtembridan 

moyolebuli portugaliaSi zedized 

xuTjer Tvis saukeTeso mcveladac aRiares. 

ZaRli 

ZaRlis 

bediT 

ra kavSiri aqvs ZaRls sportTan? aRmoCnda, rom pirdapiri, 

radgan es inglisuri buldogi „formula 1"-is msoflio 

Cempioni, luis hemiltonis oTxfexa megobari batoni 

rosko gaxlavT. 

„mersedesis” sajinibos varskvlavi hemiltoni sxvadasxva 

wyaros informaciiT wliurad 35-45 milion dolars gamoimuSavebs 

da saSualeba aqvs, sami wlis megobars mefuri 

pirobebi Seuqmnas. 

erTi xanoba megobrebs problemebi hqondaT luisis 

xSiri gadafrenisa da ganSorebis gamo, magram formulas 

yovlisSemZle Sefma, berni eklstounma, roskos specialuri 

saSvi gamouwera. 

axla mas ufleba aqvs, rbolebis msvlelobisasac ki 

„mersedesis” sajinibosTvis gankuTvnil teqnikur zonaSi 

iseirnos. luiss mudmivad Tan dahyavs megobari da mTeli 

msoflioc moatara. 

cota xnis win batoni rosko daojaxda _ luisma momxiblavi 

qalbatoni koko mihgvara. Tumca ar gegonoT, rosko 

muqTaxora iyos. is sakuTar ojaxs Tavadve arCens. roskos 

pirad gverds socqselebSi 150 aTasze meti xelmomweri 

hyavs da misi yoveldRiuri sareklamo honorari dReSi 600 

dolars(!!!) Seadgens. maTematikiT rom ar dagRaloT, wliurad 

200 000 dolarze meti gamodis, amdens ki italiuri 

seria a-s yvela fexburTeli rodi iRebs. 

ZaRlis bedi hqoniaT roskosa da kokos... 

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eder militao universalia. mxolod am sezonSi 

centraluris garda orive flangis mcvelad da sayrdenadac 

uTamaSia. Zalian maRali aqvs orTabr- 

Zolebis mogebis koeficienti da ar aris midrekili 

zRvarsgadasuli uxeSobisken. hoda, Tavad gansajeT, 

Rirda Tu ara es biWi 50 milioni evro. es Tanxa mis 

kontraqtSi miTiTebuli gamosasyidi ofcia iyo da 

„realmac” isargebla. zafxulamde rom daecadaT, 

gamosasyidi Tanxa 75 milionamde gaizrdeboda. 

eder militao madridSi 2025 wlamde iburTavebs. 

zinedin zidanis xelmZRvanelobiT madridis „reals” bolo mat- 

Ci „seltas” winaaRmdeg hqonda gamarTuli. bedis ironiiT, dabrune- 

bac „seltasTan” Sedga da uamravi paralelic dafiqsirda: 

- maSinac da axlac gaitana iskom, romelic oqtombris Semdeg 

pirvelad gamoCnda ZiriTadSi; 

- maSinac da axlac gaitana beilma, romelic yvelas satransfer- 

od ganwiruli egona; 

- maSinac da axlac ZiriTadSi iyo marselo. xangrZlivi pauzis 

Semdeg dabrunebulma brazilielma zizus madloba imiT gadauxa- 

da, rim beils sagole pasi misca; 

- maSinac da axlac kari mSralad Seinaxa keilor navasma, romel- 

mac tibo kurtua Caanacvla. 

„santiago bernabeu” TamaSis xarisxiTac da SedegiTac kmayofili 

darCa. winasamatCo preskonferenciaze yvelaze meti SekiTxva zemoT 

ukve naxsenebi oTxeulis Sesaxeb dausves. maSin zizum maqsimalurad 

diplomatiurad auara gverdi pirdapir pasuxebs, Tumca samatCo ga- 

nacxadma da misma msvlelobam am kiTxvebs amomwuravi pasuxi gasca. 

darCa erTaderTi: zizum Zvel gvardiaze aqcenti mxolod efeqturi 

dabrunebis mizniT gaakeTa Tu es grZelvadiani gegmaa? aki ambobd- 

nen, SarSan gundidan zizus wasvlis erT-erTi mTavari mizezi is iyo, 

rom florentino peresi beilis gayidvaze ver daiyoliao. 

dabrunebiT ki zidani sami umTavresi pirobiT dabrunda: 

1. supertransferebi; 

2. misi uflebebis gazrda; 

3. mniSvnelovnad gazrdili xelfasi. 

don florentinom frangs samive moTxovnaze myisieri dasturi 

misca. 

jani infantino fexburTis istorias, 

savaraudod, yvelaze didi 

reformatoris saxeliT SemorCeba. 

sxva saqmea, rom misi reformebi 

yvelas ar exateba gulze. 

fifam gamoacxada, rom konfederaciaTa 

CempionTa Tasi warsulia 

da mas msoflios saklubo Cempionati 

Caanacvlebs. axali turniris 

gamarTva 2021 wlis ivnis-ivlisSi 

igegmeba da masSi 24 klubi miiRebs 

monawileobas. aqedan 8 evropuli 

iqneba, 6 samxreTamerikuli da kidev 

10 _ danarCeni msofliodan. rva 

jgufad gayofili klubebidan meoTxedfinalSi 

mxolod gamarjvebulebi 

gavlen. Cempionati 4 weliwadSi 

erTxel Catardeba. 

reformis mizezi? konfederaciaTa 

CempionTa Tasi uintereso 

gaxda. bolo 12 gaTamaSebidan 11 

evropelebma moiges da mxolod 

2012 wels benitesis „Celsim” 0:1 

waago „korinTiansTan”. sxvaTa umweobis 

fonze, turnirma qomagi da 

sareklamo Semosavlebi dakarga. 

axali turniri infantinos gegmiT 

12 weliwadSi 25 miliard 

dolars moitans, magram... 

axal formats kategoriulad 

ewinaaRmdegeba G-14-is adgilas 

aRmocenebuli evropis klubebis 

asociacia. masSi 232 klubia gaer- 

Tianebuli, Tumca aRlums isev G- 

14-is wevri grandebi xelmZRvmsoflio 

saklubo 

Cempionati 

aneloben. asociaciis Tavmjdomare 

„iuves” patroni andrea anieli gaxlavT, 

gamgeobis sapatio wevri ki 

franc bekenbaueria. klubebi boikotiTac 

ki imuqrebian. 

ra gaxda protestis mizezi? 

klubebis azriT, axali formati 

isedac gadatvirTul fexburTelebs 

saerTod Svebulebis gareSe 

datovebs da maT janmrTelobaze 

cudad aisaxeba. 

infantino ki optimistia, _ saerTo 

enas aucileblad gamovnaxav- 

To. magram grandebs, daaxloebiT, 

50 milionis sanacvlod am wamowyebaSi 

CarTva kategoriulad ar 

surT. safexburTo diplomatiis 

droa, Cven ki lodinis meti ra dagvrCenia. 

fexburTis gurmanis gadmosaxedidan 

axali turniri ar unda 

iyos uintereso. 

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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK 

afiSa 

ra surT kacebs 

kavea galerea 

16:45 13-14 l. 

19:30 16-17 l. 

22:15 16-17 l. 

kavea Tbilisi moli 

17:15 11-12 l. 

19:45 13-14 l. 

22:45 13-14 l. 

kavea isT foinTi 

14:30 9-10 l. 

17:00 10-11 l. 

19:30 13-14 l. 

22:15 13-14 l. 

kapitani marveli 

amirani 

16:45 10-11 l. 

19:30 13-14 l. 

22:00 15 l. 

22:15 13-14 l. 

kavea galerea 

11:45 10-11 l. 

14:15 11-12 l. 

16:30 13-14 l. 

17:00 13-14 l. 

19:15 16-17 l. 

19:45 16-17 l. 

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12:00 8-9 l. 

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19:30 13-14 l. 

20:00 19 l. 

22:00 13-14 l. 

22:15 13-14 l. 

22:30 19 l. 


yovelkvireuli gazeTi gamodis kviraSi 

erTxel, samSabaTobiT da vrceldeba 

saqarTvelos mTel teritoriaze 

yovelkvireuli 

gamodis samSabaTobiT fasi 2 lari 

pirveli gverdi: 

1 sm 2 _ 15 lari, maqsimaluri SekveTa 300 sm 2 ; 

meore-mesame gverdebi: 

1 sm 2 _ 3 lari; 

Sida gverdebi: 

1 sm 2 _ 1 lari; 

bolos wina gverdi: 

1sm 2 _2 lari; 

bolo gverdi: 

1sm 2 _ 3 lari, 

maqsimaluri SekveTa _ mTeli gverdi; 

mTliani gverdis saerTo farTobia _ 

1000 sm 2; 

reklama CanarTis saxiT: 

A3 formatis erT nomerSi ganTavseba _ 500 lari; 

A4 formatis erT nomerSi ganTavseba _ 300 lari; 

mis.: gudauris 3; 599 19 19 10 (Savlego cixelaSvili) 

afiSa 

patara mefe da 

zarmaci raindebi 

amirani 

12:00 11 l. 

14:30 12 l. 

17:15 14 l. 

kavea galerea 

12:00 10-11 l. 

14:30 11-12 l. 

17:15 14-15 l. 

19:30 16-17 l. 


12:00 8-9 l. 

14:15 9-10 l. 

17:00 10-11 l. 

19:30 13-14 l. 


12:00 8-9 l. 

14:15 9-10 l. 

17:15 11-12 l. 

sinaTlis xma 

amirani 

19:30 15 l. 


16:45 10-11 l. 

22:30 13-14 l. 

1 aSS dolari 

2.6840 

1 evro 

3.0458 

1 girvanqa sterlingi 

3.5539 

1 Sveicaruli franki 

2.6824 

100 rusuli rubli 

4.1590 

amindi 

samSabaTi 

oTxSabaTi 

xuTSabaTi 

paraskevi 

SabaTi 

kvira 

orSabaTi 

Tbilisi 

10-12 0 

12-14 0 

13-15 0 

11-13 0 

10-12 0 

8-11 0 

10-13 0 

quTaisi 

12-14 0 

16-18 0 

11-13 0 

9-11 0 

8-10 0 

7-10 0 

9-11 0 

baTumi 

12-13 0 

13-15 0 

10-12 0 

8-10 0 

9-11 0 

8-11 0 

7-10 0 

zugdidi 

14-16 0 

16-18 0 

11-13 0 

9-11 0 

7-9 0 

9-10 0 

11-13 0 

gori 

7-9 0 

11-14 0 

10-12 0 

6-8 0 

5-7 0 

4-6 0 

3-5 0 

Telavi 

9-11 0 

10-12 0 

12-14 0 

14-16 0 

12-14 0 

11-13 0 

12-14 0 

foTi 

12-14 0 

13-15 0 

11-13 0 

9-11 0 

8-10 0 

9-11 0 

10-12 0 

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saredaqcio kolegia 

yvela ufleba daculia; 

`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli 

masalebis nebismieri saxiT 

gamoyeneba da gavrceleba 

redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad 

akrZalulia! 

gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul 

masalebs aqvT sareklamo 

xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia 

SeiZleba ar daemTxves 

redaqciis Sexedulebas. 

mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12) 

rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06 

stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe; 

SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50 

redaqciis misamarTi: 

mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55 

Tbilisi, gudauris N3, 

pirveli sarTuli, bina 4; 

injgia nene 591 71 39 98 

tel.: 294 69 77; 

sakaruli giorgi 555 42 42 90 

sareklamo ganyofileba, 

qemokliZe levan 593 16 01 40 

gavrcelebis samsaxuri 

vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89 

Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10 

deviZe daviT 

gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~ 

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