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`statistika sando araa,
dramatulad
gauaresebuli
giorgi abaSiZe
epidsituaciis fonze „strategia
aRmaSeneblis” erT-erTi lideri,
sergo CixlaZe, jandacvis ministr ekaterine tikaraZes disku-
siaSi iwvevs.
„epidemiologiuri situacia yoveldRe uaresdeba, aseve
yoveldRe uaresdeba epidsituaciis marTva qveyanaSi. mTlianad
morRveulia testireba-diagnostikis komponenti, gaurkveveli
da urTierTgamomricxavi informacia vrceldeba sawolfondTan
dakavSirebiT, savalalo mdgomareobaa e. w. kovidsastumroebSi,
112 da saswrafo daxmareba droulad da, rig SemTxvevebSi, saer-
Tod ver reagirebs moqalaqeebis jandacvis saWiroebebze. ar
gvaqvs informacia, ra mdgomareobaa samedicino saxarji masaleb-
is an wamlebis kuTxiT. samedicino personalis gadamzadeba da
jandacvis sferoSi adamianuri resursebis efeqtianad mobilizeba
kvlav ar xdeba. sruliad gaumWvirvalea kovidTan mimarTebiT
mobilizebuli da ucxouri daxmarebis saxiT miRebuli miliardobiT
laris xarjva. amasTan, dRiTidRe uaresdeba adamianeb-
isa da qveynis ekonomikuri mdgomareoba.
sergo CixlaZe:
`gaurkvevelia,
kovidfondidan
milionebi sad wavida
da pasuxismgebel pirebs
seriozuli pasuxebis
gacema mouwevT!~
ukve yovel dRes aqvs gadamwyveti
mniSvneloba, radgan efeqtiani
gegmisa da strategiis
gareSe yoveli dRis dayovneba
damatebiT gardacvlil, aTasobiT
dainficirebul da aseve aTasobiT
siRaribisa da SimSilisTvis ganwirul
adamians niSnavs.
amitom dauyovnebliv viTxov
sajaro diskusias jandacvis ministr
tikaraZesTan da vusvam
konkretul kiTxvebs: 1. ra gaake-
TeT ganvlil 6 TveSi jandacvis
sistemis epidemiis talRisTvis
mosamzadeblad da sad daixarja
kovidze mobilizebuli Tanxebi?
2. ratom gveRupeba adamianebi e.
w. kovidsastumroebSi da ratom
rCeba aseT sivrceebSi pacienti
yovelgvari samedicino zedamxedvelobis
gareSe? 3. ratom ver aawyveT
testireba-diagnostikis komponenti
qveyanaSi gasuli 6 Tve-
Si? 4. ratom ar muSaobs 112 da
saswrafo samedicino daxmarebis
komponenti qveyanaSi da ratom
uwevT moqalaqeebs saaTobiT lodini
saWiro samedicino daxmarebis
misaRebad? 5. ratom ar daiwyeT
jer kidev gazafxulze ojaxis
eqimebis masobrivi treningi da
momzadeba pacientebis binaze samarTavad?
6. ratom ar daiwyeT
molaparakeba kerZo seqtorTan
saWiro sawolfondisa da samedicino
personalis mobilizaciisa
da mosamzadeblad da ratom iwyebT
amaze fiqrs mxolod axla,
oqtomberSi, rodesac situacia
kontrolidan gageqcaT? 7. ra
gegema gaqvT epidemiis samarTavad?”
_ acxadebs sergo CixlaZe da
qalbaton tikaraZes mouwodebs,
rom konkretuli, droSi gawerili
da gansazRvrul indikatorebze
dafuZnebuli gegma warmoadginos.
Tumca jandacvis ministri, romelic
saswrafos 4-6-saaTian dagvianebas
normalurad miiCnevs, sergo
CixlaZis gamowvevas, jerjerobiT,
ar gamoxmaurebia da, didi
albaTobiT, arc gamoexmaureba.
zemoTqmulis garda, kidev ra
pretenziebi aqvs xelisuflebasTan
da rogor unda davaRwi-
oT Tavi koronapandemias? _
„qronika+” „strategia aRmaSeneb-
lis” gamsvleli proporciuli
siis wevrs, jandacvis eqspert
sergo CixlaZes esaubra:
_ sergo, Tqven, rogorc
eqsperti, saqarTveloSi kovidin-
ficirebulTa moulodnel reko-
rdul zrdas riT xsniT?
_ kovidinficirebulTa raodenoba
rekordulad imitom izrdeba,
rom kontrolis meqanizmi miSvebuli
iyo. Sesabamisad, infeqciam
erTbaSad ifeTqa. sxvaTa Soris,
jer kidev mart-aprilSi vsaubrobdiT,
rom saWiro iyo mwvave sadiagnostiko
qselis awyoba, radgan
erTi SemTxvevac ar gagvparvoda
da adamianTa izolacia droulad
mogvexdina. samwuxarod, es ar gakeTda
da dResac ki sul 22 laboratoriaa,
romelic testebis
Catarebas ver audis. erTi sityviT,
epidemiis winaaRmdeg brZolidan
drouli diagnostika, adamianTa
izolireba da saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi, mkurnaloba amovardnilia.
Sesabamisad, inficirebul-
Ta cifrebic „gaiqca”. saerTod,
infeqcia sazogadoebaSi grovdeba,
anu akumulirdeba da gadadebis
maCvenebelic izrdeba. garda
amisa, saxelmwifoc modunda.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ zafxulis ganmavlobaSi wesebis
dacvaze erTi axali sainformacio
klipi mainc ginaxavT?
_ simarTle giTxraT, ara.
_ hoda, yvelaferi es imaze mianiSnebs,
rom mTavroba modunda
da daijera, rom marTla Zalian
magaria da korona daZlia. mokled,
sazogadoebasTan komunikaciisa
da informirebulobis
komponenti dairRva.
_ SeiZleba, magram samarTlianobisTvis
unda vTqvaT, koro-
naSemTxvevebi mxolod saqar-
TveloSi ki ara, mTel msoflio-
Si imatebs.
_ diax, magram igive evropaSi
koronaSemTxvevebi im fonze izrdeba,
roca ekonomika amoqmedebulia,
sazRvrebi ki _ gaxsnili. Cven-
Tan ki sazRvrebi Caketilia da,
miuxedavad amisa, saxelmwifos
pandemia mainc „gaeqca”. metic, cifrebiT
Tu vimsjelebT, erT sul
mosaxleze kovidinficirebuli
Cven ufro bevri gvyavs, vidre _
evropas an romelime sxva qveyanas.
_ aravin uaryofs, rom xelisufleba
koronas veRar akon-
trolebs, magram rogorc yvela
medals, koronamedalsac aqvs
meore mxare, anu xSiria SemTx-
vevebi, roca adamians koronas
udgenen, Tumca mere aRmoCndeba
xolme, rom es feik-dadasture-
baa. sxvaTa Soris, amis naTeli
magaliTia msaxiob nanka kalato-
ziSvilis arasruwlovani Svilis
SemTxveva _ bavSvs korona daudgines,
Tumca gairkva, rom diag-
nozi araswori iyo. hoda, bevri
fiqrobs, rom kovidstatistika
xelovnuradaa gaberili da yve-
laferi erTgvari politikuri
TamaSebia. am kuTxiT risi Tqma
SegiZliaT?
_ aseTi varaudi aqamdec gvqonda
da axlac gvaqvs, Tumca mTavrobis
logikidan amovideT.
_ anu?
_ mTeli am Tveebis ganmavlobaSi
mTavroba Tavs imiT iwonebda,
rom magari krizismenejeria,
epidemias marTavs da koronis 10-
15 SemTxvevaze meti TiTqos swored
amitomac ar gvqonda. aqedan
gamomdinare, arCevnebis win xelisuflebisTvis
koronaricxvebis
gazrda momgebiani araa. „ocnebisTvis”
momgebiani iqneboda, rom
statistika, vTqvaT, 200-mde gazrdiliyo,
Tumca xelisuflebas
eTqva, yvelafers isev vmarTavo,
magram amasobaSi sikvdilianobac
gaizarda da gardacvlilTa raodenoba
ukve asze metia. paralelurad,
klinikebi seriozuladaa
gadatvirTuli da igive aWaraSi
adgilebic aRaraa. amitom adamianebi,
romelTac kovidi udasturdebaT,
kovidsastumroebSi
gadahyavT. sxvaTa Soris, am kovidsastumroSi
41 wlis qali ise gardaicvala,
rom masze zedamxedvelobac
ar arsebobda.
simarTle giTxraT, statistikaSi
eWvi mec mepareba, radgan
sando araa, vis rodis testaven da
ra pasuxs eubnebian, anu iqiTken
vixrebi, rom SesaZloa, SemTxveva
bevrad metia, magram amasac Tavi
davaneboT da davuSvaT, rom
ityuebian da zedmet statistikas
aqveyneben, magram faqtia, rom
sikvdilianoba izrdeba da,
rogorc giTxariT, klinikebic
gadatvirTulia. yvelaferi es ki
mTavrobis interesSi ar Sedis.
_ sxvaTa Soris, zogs kiTxvis
niSnebi sikvdilianobis gazrdazec
aqvs. ai, magaliTad, samcxejavaxeTSi
gardacvlili erT-
erTi pacientis ojaxs ar sjera,
rom gardacvalebis mizezi korona
gaxda. mokled, arsebobs versia,
rom damZimebuli epidviTareba
postsaarCevno periods ukav-
Sirdeba, roca arCevnebis SedegebiT
ukmayofilo aTasobiT adami-
anma SesaZloa, quCaSi gamosvla
daapiros. xelisufleba ki am sap-
rotesto talRis SeCerebas im
sagangebo mdgomareobiT Seecdeba,
romelsac koronis sababiT ga-
moacxadebs...
_ geTanxmebiT, es gegma namdvilad
arsebobs, anu darwmunebuli
var, rom arCevnebis Semdeg
`arCevnebi 31 oqtobers unda Catardes, radgan
xelisufleba droulad Seicvalos da iseTi
movides, romelic jandacvis, ekonomikisa Tu
sxva mimarTulebiT rames realurad gaakeTebs!~
„ocneba” qveyanas marTla Caketavs,
magram am „SeTqmulebis Teorias”
mxolod im nawilSi ar viziareb,
ai, xelisuflebas awyobs
da dainficirebulTa ricxvs amitom
zrdiso. im epidviTarebiT,
rac dRes qveyanaSia, xelisufleba
mxardamWerebs kargavs. saer-
Tod, xelisuflebas cifrebiT
manipulireba SeuZlia, magram is
Tanmxlebi movlenebi, rac yvelafer
amas axlavs, manipulirebadi
araa.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ yvelas, miT umetes, maT, vinc
jandacvis sferoSi varT, saavadmyofoebTan,
klinikebsa da
eqimebTan kontaqti gvaqvs da viciT,
rom samedicino dawesebulebebi
gadatvirTulia, anu cifrebis
mogoneba SesaZlebelia, magram
arsebobs garkveuli indikatorebi,
romliTac realoba dgindeba.
_ mesmis, magram sergo, ratom
ar uSvebT albaTobas, rom klini-
kebSi yvela koviddadebiTi ki
araa, aramed zogs sezonuri gri-
pi sWirs?
_ gripis sezoni jer ar dawyebula...
_ Sors rom ar wavideT, ai, nika
gvaramiac werda socialur qsel-
Si, rom TbilisSi, kovidis garda,
sxva umZimesi virusicaa modebu-
li...
_ sezonuri gripi oqtombris
bolos iwyeba, piks noembris bolos
an dekemberSi aRwevs. mokled,
ver vityvi, rom is, rac klinikebSi
xdeba, mogonilia.
_ hoda, Tu viTareba, mar-
Tlac, aseTi dramatulia, xe-
lisufleba mkacr RonisZiebebs
ratom ar atarebs?
_ „ocnebas” unda, rom viTareba
rogorme 31 oqtombramde
miagoros, mere ki qveyana daketos.
sxvaTa Soris, sxva mimarTulebi-
Tac waval.
_ romeli mimarTulebiT, ser-
go?
_ xelisufleba Tavs imiTac
aRar imarTlebda, ekonomika ratom
ver gamarTa an samuSao adgilebi
ratom ver Seqmna. misi er-
TaderTi koziri is iyo, rom korona
kargad marTa. am koziris
gaSveba mis interesebSi ar Sedioda
da asec hqonda Cafiqrebuli,
rom oqtombris bolos inficirebulTa
raodenoba gaizrdeboda
da sanam sazogadoeba gonze mov-
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