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„TiToeulma Tqvenganma kargad
iciT, rom varT giorgi gaxarias
gundis wevrebi, Tanamoazreebi da
gvaerTianebs saerTo Rirebulebebi
da faseulobebi. axali ambavi
gaxlavT is, rom Cven dReidan gaxariasTan
erToblivi gadawyvetilebiT
gadavdivarT partiis mSeneblobis
axal fazaze, vtovebT
„qarTul ocnebas” da saqmianobas
gavagrZelebT, rogorc damoukidebeli
deputatebi.
Cven viyaviT „qarTuli ocnebis”
wevrebi da viziarebT im warmatebebsa
da warumateblobebs,
rac am periodSi moxda. amave
dros, viRebT pasuxismgeblobas
Secdomebzec da swored pasuxismgeblobis
grZnobiT vdgamT am
nabijs. Cveni qveyana dgas seriozuli
gamowvevebis winaSe. moqalaqeebs
uwevT yoveldRiur reJim-
Si gamklaveba iseTi problemebis
winaSe, rogoric aris pandemia,
ekonomikuri krizisi, siduxWire.
es is problemebia, romelic Cvens
moqalaqeebsa da mosaxleobas ainteresebs
da ara politikuri partiebis
dausrulebeli dapirispireba
da kinklaoba. Cven am
problemebs vxedavT, ar gveSinia
misTvis Tvalis gasworebis da simarTlis
Tqmis. samomavlo gegmebze
gundis liderTan erTad detalurad
mogaxsenebT. Cveni Tanamoazre
aris aseve mixeil dauSvili.
is amJamad kovidinficirebulia,
vusurvebT mas janmrTelobas.
darwmunebuli var, igi
male SemouerTdeba Cvens yoveld-
Riur saqmianobas”, ganacxada 12
aprils parlamentSi gamarTul
sagangebo brifingze giorgi xojevaniSvilma,
romelic imTaviTve
eqspremieris marjvenaxelad miiCneoda.
mokled, gaxariac „ocnebas”
gmobs da ra moxdeba im SemTxveva-
Si, Tu eqspremieri ityvis, „ocnebis”
xelisuflebidan gasaSve-
bad gaerTianebuli opoziciis
mxardamxar unda vibrZoloo? _
am da sxva aqtualuri Temebis
Sesaxeb „qronika+~ „nacionaluri
moZraobis” axal saxes, giorgi
xvedelians esaubra:
_ giorgi, qveyana TiTqmis isea
areuli, rogorc _ 90-ian wleb-
Si... politikuri krizisi, ekon-
omikuri siduxWire, namoxvanhesis
problemebi _ yvelaferi es erTi
jaWvia?
_ diax, erTmaneTTan kavSirSi
im gagebiTaa, rom xelisufleba
ise iqceva, rogorc iqceva.
_ da xelisufleba rogor
iqceva?
_ daviwyoT imiT, rom xelisufleba
opozicias ar elaparakeba,
riTac politikur kriziss qmnis;
aseve ar elaparakeba xalxs, riTac
namoxvanhesTan dakavSirebul
kriziss qmnis.
marTalia, xelisufleba saer-
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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
`nika meliam sakuTari politikuri
„qarTul ocnebaSi” didi, Zali-
vano pavliaSvili
an didi ambebia, anu marTalia,
595 48 35 85 „meocnebeebi” ar imCneven, magram
giorgi
SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac Cans,
rom mmarTvel elitas sakuTari wevrebi emijnebian. ai, magal-
iTad, ramdenime dRis win eqvsma deputatma, romelic arcTu
Soreul warsulSi „ocnebis” mzes ificebda, sjarod ganacxa-
xvedeliani:
da, umravlesobas vtovebo. saubaria e. w. gaxarias gundze,
romelic „ocnebas” „laiTad” akritikebs.
`Cven
koaliciuri
mmarTveloba
gvWirdeba~
TaSoriso sazogadoebas elaparakeba,
magram misgan arafers
iziarebs da iTvaliswinebs. amis
gamo saparlamento boikotirebac
grZeldeba. garda amisa, „ocnebas”
sasamarTlo da prokuratura
jibeSi aqvs Cadebuli. ager, opoziciis
lideri cixeSia. erTi sityviT,
xelisufleba iseTia, rogoric
aris _ standartebi ar gaaCnia.
saxelmwifo jibeSi aqvs Casmuli
da sazogadoebis interesebs
sakuTari ekonomikuri interesebis
sasargeblod marTavs.
_ Tqveni azriT, xelisuflebas
amdeni krizisis Seqmna ratom aw-
yobs?
_ „ocnebas” mxardaWera ar gaaCnia.
_ SigniT, xalxisgan Tu qvey-
nis garedan?
_ Cven rom demokratiuli saxelmwifo
gvqondes, „ocneba” xelisuflebaSi
saerTod ar iqneboda,
anu Cven realuri sasamarTlo
rom gvqondes, „ocnebas” imis Sesa-
Zlebloba ar eqneboda, ekonomikurad
ise esargebla. arc farcxalaZeebi
iqnebodnen, arc Svidasi
milionis moparvis magaliTebi
iarsebebda da arc _ „atkatebi”.
„ocnebas” xelisuflebaSi yofna
imitom unda, rom mdirdebodes
da yvelaferi jibeSi edos. demokratiuli
procesi rom iyos, maSin
xelisuflebaSi namdvilad ver
iqneboda!
_ ise, Tavis droze, roca mo-
laparakebebi CaiSala, opoziciis
liderebma dasavleTis misamar-
TiT mZafri gancxadebebi gaa-
keTes. giorgi, iziarebT versias,
rom dasavleTma opozicia, ubra-
lod, „fexze daikida” da „oc-
nebasTan” garigebaSi Sevida?
_ aq „garigebaze” araa saubari.
_ aba, razea?
_ Cven standarts vayalibebT.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ dasavleTis sazogadoebas
veubnebiT, rogor qveyanaSi gvinda
cxovreba. warmoidgineT,
rTul regionSi varT.
_ diax, es yvelam viciT...
_ Cveni mezoblebis demokratiuli
da samarTlebrivi standarti
arcTu saxarbieloa. amitom
dasavluri liberaluri demokratiis
standartebis winaSe meti
pasuxismgebloba gvqonda. axla ki
yvelaferi es mcirdeba da Cven partniorebs
unda vanaxoT, rom ise-
Ti qveyana gvinda, sadac xelisuflebas,
magaliTad, 3-dan 5-procentamde
saarCevno fora ar eqneba.
Cvens gasakeTebels, rasakvirvelia,
sxva ver gaakeTebs, magram
swored imis gamo, rom icis, yvelaferi
es Cveni gasakeTebelia, xelisufleba
Tavis yvela infrastruqturas
im mimarTulebiT amuSavebs,
rom Zala gamogvacalos,
imedi dagvakargvinos da gvaTqmevinos,
araferi gamova da imaze meti
ar SegviZlia, rasac vakeTebTo.
dRes xalxi yvelaze metad
negatiuradaa ganwyobili, magram
yvelafers iTmens da mTavari
problemac swored esaa.
_ xalxi, anu me, Tqven da sxva
ratom viTmenT?
_ imitom ki ar viTmenT, rom
mogvwons, aramed viTmenT imitom,
rom gvajereben, _ azri ar aqvs,
verafers vizamTo. yvelanairi
propaganda swored am mimarTulebiT
muSaobs.
_ im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki aSS
saqarTvelos Sida problemebiT
ufro aqtiurad dainteresdeba,
amiT viTareba Seicvleba?
_ dasavleTi am sakiTxs, rasakvirvelia,
principulad ar moeSveba
da arc imas Seegueba, rom xelisufleba
ase iqceva. amitom imedi
maqvs, rom evropuli da aseve
amerikuli mxarec qarTvel xalxs
ufro daexmareba da „ocnebas” im
nabijs gadaadgmevinebs, romli-
Tac Cveni institutebi gamyardeba.
laparakia sasamarTlosa da
saarCevno kodeqsze. xelisufleba
imdeni procentiT unda gvmar-
Tavdes da parlamentSi imdeni
deputati hyavdes, ramden xmasac
miiRebs.
_ es, cxadia, ase unda iyos,
magram sxva rames gekiTxebiT, anu
gamoricxavT, amerikelebma „ocnebas”
plebiscitis Catareba ai-
Zulon, opozicias ki _ parlamentSi
Sesvla da mTeli es poli-
tikuri bakqanalia amiT damTav-
rdes?
_ xom iciT, dasavleTi ruseTisgan
riTac gansxvavdeba?
_ vici, magram kidev erTxel
vTqvaT...
_ dasavleTs aseTi tipis moTxovnebi
ar aqvs, anu dasavleTi
rekomendaciebs iZleva da mogviwodebs,
rom Tu masTan TanamSromloba
gvinda, garkveul principebs
vuerTguloT. amerikelebis CarTulobac,
nebismier SemTxvevaSi, am
tipis iqneba. simarTle giTxraT,
namdvilad ar mjera, rom romelime
Cveni dasavleli partniori
nika melias, romelic cixeSi
sruliad SeTiTxnili braldebi-
Taa, daiviwyebs da am sakiTxs pirvel
adgilze ar gamoitans.
_ ki batono, magram giorgi,
medals ori mxare aqvs da SevTanxmdeT,
rom patimroba nika me-
`nino burjanaZe iqneba Tu anzor biwaZe,
gayalbebul arCevnebze problema am
adamianebsac aqvT. ai, magaliTad, rodesac
oligarqi plaxatniuki moldovidan gaaqcies,
Zalian mkveTrad prorusuli da
prodasavluri partiebi erTad dadgnen, mere
ki yvela Tavis gzaze wavida. qalbatoni
burjanaZe Tavisi politikuri partiis
lideria, romelic gayalbebul arCevnebs
aprotestebs da vadamdelis daniSvnas iTxovs~
liasTvisac erTgvarad momgebiania.
yovel SemTxvevaSi, imis Sansi,
rom misgan qarTveli Ce gev-
ara dadges, namdvilad arsebobs...
_ sazogadoeba, rasakvirvelia,
dadebiTad afasebs, roca adamiani
sakuTar Rirsebas icavs. meliam ki
sakuTari Rirseba daicva.
_ rogor?
_ ukanono giraos gadaxdaze
uari Tqva, anu ganacxada, Tqven
iseT mdgomareobaSi mayenebT, rom
Cems adamianur da politikur
Rirsebaze uari vTqva, fuli gadavixado
da Tavisufleba mqondes,
magram aseT Tavisuflebas
cixeSi yofna da politikuri da
adamianuri Rirsebis SenarCuneba
mirCevniao.
_ asea Tu ise, Tundac xelisuflebis
Secvlis Semdeg am patim-
robiT melia darCeba mogebuli,
ara?
_ Zalian rTulia, rom ukanono
patimrobaze aseTi Sefaseba gavakeToT,
magram mogebuli yovelTvis
is iqneba, vinc adamianur da
politikur Rirsebas SeinarCunebs.
_ keTili... giorgi, axla is
miTxariT, oRond gulwrfelad,
_ im „nervebis omSi”, romelic 31
oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg daiwyo,
opozicia ra Secdomebs uS-
vebs?
_ garkveul Secdomas yvela da,
maT Soris, albaT, opoziciac uSvebs.
_ kerZod?
_ meti muSaoba gvWirdeba, rom
xelisuflebis im propagandas,
romelic adamianebs Zalas aclis,
ufro metad davupirispirdeT,
magram aseTi tipis xelisuflebis
pirobebSi opozicia bevri ramiT
ganiaraRebulia.
_ cudad ar gamigoT da, ar
SeiZleba, yvelaferi sxvas, am
SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebas daabraloT.
ai, magaliTad, saprotesto
aqciebis gadadebaSi xelisu-
fleba ra SuaSia? ar sjobda,
xalxi 15 maisamde Sekrebiliyo an
adamianebi axla rogor unda
daarwmunoT, rom 15 maiss quCaSi
aucileblad unda gamovidnen?
_ Cveni mTavari amocanaa, rom
xalxs kidev erTxel vuTxraT: im
mdgomareobas, raSic „qarTulma
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