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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comraze apirebdnen SeTanxmebasimaze saubari, rom molaparake-vano pavliaSvilibebi CaiSala, „brenduli” aRaraa.595 48 35 85yovel SemTxvevaSi, bolo dros sa-zogadoebis gansjis sagani namox-vanhesis movlenebi Tu msaxiob beso zanguris mier eqsmeuRlezefizikuri Zaladobaa, magram politikur kuluarebSi amboben,rom male yvelaferi isev Tavdayira dadgeba. kerZod, arsebobsmolodini, rom aprilis bolos saqarTvelos aSS-is saxelmwifomdivani ewveva da xelisuflebas, minimum, yurs auwevs.595 48 35 85 goCa TevdoraZe:sxvaTa Soris, „yuris awevas”Tavad „ocnebac” elodeba. ase-Ti azri ki mas Semdeg gaCnda,rac okeanisgaRma vizitad myofmairakli kobaxiZem RiadTqva, miniSnebebi keTdeba, romdaTmobis pirveli nabijebi xelisuflebamunda gadadgaso.„Cven gvesmis miniSneba imisSesaxeb, rom „qarTuli ocneba”aris mmarTveli partia da sWirdebakonkretuli nabijebisgadadgma, raTa sakiTxebi gadaiWras.Cven vafiqsirebT mzadyofnas,rom gadaidgas konkretulinabijebi, maT Soris, kompromisismimarTulebiT. esaraerTxel davadastureT dasamomavlodac mzad varT, gamovavlinoTkonstruqciulimidgoma principebis dacviT. esprincipebi aris, ra Tqma unda,ganmsazRvreli nebismieri SeTanxmebisxelmoweris dros, magramam principebis farglebSiCven viqnebiT maqsimaluradkonstruqciulebi.yvela detalze visaubreTarCevnebis Sesaxeb, aseve sisxlissamarTlis saqmeebTan dakavSirebiT,vsaubrobT imaze,rom yvelas SeuZlia nebismieriaspeqtis gadamowmeba, rac arCevnebsada sisxlis samarTlissaqmeebs ukavSirdeba. absoluturadyvela detalze vawvdiTinformacias saerTaSoriso partniorebs.CvenTvis mniSvnelovaniamaTi rCevebis mosmena”,_ kobaxiZis es gancxadeba ramdenimedRis win sainformaciosaagento CNews-ma gaavrcela.mosazrebas, rom „ocneba” saerTaSorisownexs ver gauZlebs,„patriotTa aliansis”erT-erTi lideri, goCa TevdoraZeciziarebs. amasTan,„qronika+~-sTan is molaparakebebisdRemde ucnob detalebsacixsenebs da skandalurgancxadebasac akeTebs, kerZod,ambobs, rom „nacmoZraobas” vadamdeliarCevnebis daniSvna arunda.gTavazobT intervius goCaTevdoraZesTan:_ batono goCa, qveyanaSiqaosia _ politikur kriziszerom aRaraferi vTqvaT, so-cialur-ekonomikuri fonicdamZimda, paralelurad, xalxiquCaSi gaWirvebis gamo ki ara,samSoblos gadasarCenad gamodis,rasac rionis xeobaSi ganviTarebulimovlenebic mow-mobs. mokled, yvelaferi eserTmaneTTan kavSirSia Tu sx-vadasxva fazlia?_ yvelaferi es im konteqst-Si unda ganvixiloT, rom „ocnebas”qveynis marTva ar Seu-Zlia da mxolod imazea orientirebuli,rom xelisuflebarogorme SeinarCunos. problemebicamitomaa. aviRoT, Tundac,pandemia, romelic mTelimsofliosTvis gamowvevaa, magramCvenma xelisuflebam gansakuTrebiTver marTa _ Tavisdroze iseTi zomebi miiRo,romelic saWiro ar iyo. axlaki Tavad iseT mdgomareobaSia,rom aRar icis, ra moifiqros.yvelafer amas is politikurikrizisic daemTxva, romelicTavad „ocnebam” arCevnebis gayalbebiTgamoiwvia.mokled, qveyanaSi rTulisituaciaa...rac Seexeba namoxvanhess, arSeiZleba, gonieri adamiani imiswinaaRmdegi iyos, rom qveyanamenergodamoukideblobas miaRwios,magram roca raRacisTvis,vTqvaT, erTi kvadratulimiwaa saWiro da am dros SenaTas kvadratuls aZlev, es ki-Txvis niSnebs aCens da problemebsqmnis.saerTod, xelisuflebaTavis mier Seqmnil problemeb-Sia gaxlarTuli. aviRoT, magaliTad,melias saqme. ramdenimeTvis win am Temas politikurielferi aramcdaaramcar hqonda, magram politikurielferi Tavad „ocnebam” SesZinada yvelafer amaSi ise gaixlarTa,rom veRar gamodis._ konkretulad?_ „nacionaluri moZraoba”da masTan dakavSirebuli partiebimelias gamoSvebas iTxoven,xelisufleba ki kobaxiZispiriT gveubneba, opozicia mogviwodebs,rom marTlmsajulebafexiT gavTeloTo. sinamdvileSiki opozicia „ocnebas”eubneba, marTlmsajuleba, romelicrealurad gaTele dafexiT gadauare, kidev daarRvieda melia gamouSvio. am fonzearaadekvaturi gancxadebagvesmis, ai, meliam girao gadaixadosda gamovuSvebTo.ise, xom veravin gvetyvis, esgirao ra aris an ra Tanxazeasaubari? mas Semdeg, rac meliaswinaswari patimroba miesaja,girao aRar arsebobs!_ batono goCa, sityvammoitana da, enm-s lideris pa-timrobidan ganTavisuflebissamarTlebrivi meqanizmi arse-bobs?_ diax, samarTlebrivad bevrimeqanizmi arsebobs._ kerZod?_ magaliTad, amnistia,`iluziaa, rom`nacionalurmoZraobas~vadamdeli arCevnebiaucileblad unda~romelzedac saubroben. amasTan,SesaZlebelia, rom sasamar-Tlom aRkveTis RonisZiebis Secvlisgadawyvetileba miiRos,magram yvelaferi es damoukidebelisasamarTlosa da prokuraturisgadasawyvetia daara _ politikosebis... ra amispasuxia da, igive ekonomikasTandakavSirebiT xelisuflebisyvela qmedeba araadekvaturia.yvelaferi es dagrovda dapolitikuri krizisis fonzegansakuTrebiT mZafrad gamo-Cnda... qveyana am mdgomareoba-Si amitomacaa._ magram mTel am oromtri-als rogor unda davaRwioTTavi?_ „qarTuli ocneba” mmarTvelobidanunda wavides._ rogor?_ vadamdeli arCevnebiasaWiro. saerTod, saqarTvelosmosaxleobis winaSe gacilebiTdidi amocana dgas._ ras gulisxmobT, batonogoCa?_ politikuri sivrcidan mxolod„qarTuli ocneba” kiara, „nacionaluri moZraobac”unda gaistumros! sxvaTa Soris,„patriotTa aliansidan” molaparakebebSime vmonawileobdi,magram dRes xazgasmiT aravinambobs, am Sexvedrebze „nacmoZraobisa”da „ocnebisTvis”umTavresi sakiTxi ra iyo._ ra iyo?_ garigeba._ anu?_ maT Soris Zalauflebisgadanawilebaze garigeba._ anu molaparakebeze orivemxare garigebas cdilobda?_ es danielsonsac ar daumalavsda pirdapir Tqva, saWiroaZalTa Tanabari gadanawilebaara mxolod sakanonmdebloxelisuflebaSio._ gasagebia, rom „ocneba” daenm sakuTari dRis wesrigiTmoqmedebdnen, magram, magali-Tad, „patriotebi” molapar-akebaze ras iTxovdiT?_ roca es sakiTxebi daisva..._ ukacravad, romeli sak-iTxebi?_ parlamentis xuTi da, maTSoris, ori ZiriTadi komitetisxelmZRvaneloba opoziciasgadasces. opoziciaSi, cxadia,„nacionaluri moZraoba” damasTan dakavSirebuli partie-`cxadia, rom melia `qarTuli ocnebisa~ da`nacionaluri moZraobis~ erToblivi TamaSia~bi igulisxmeboda, Torem amparlamentSi „patriotebis” politikurimdgeneli warmodgeniliar aris._ anu Tqven, rogorc „pa-triotebis” warmomadgenelma,aseTi SeTanxmeba gaapro-testeT?_ molaparakebis detalebzear saubroben da es gauxmaureblobaimas emsaxureba, rom Zalauflebisgadanawilebis Temadafaruli iyos, magram dasamali,mgoni, araferia.mokled, saubari imaze iyo,rom xuTi da, maT Soris, oriZiriTadi komitetisa da aseveerTi saerTaSoriso delegaciisxelmZRvaneloba opoziciasunda gadascemoda. amas Cemgan,cxadia, protesti mohyva._ Tqvens protestze reaq-cia rogori iyo?_ Cemi protestis pasuxi,realurad, aseTi iyo: Cven kiZalauflebas vinawilebT, magrames molaparakebis dokumentSiar CavweroT da pasuxismgeblobamediatorebis winaSe„qarTulma ocnebam” aiRoso.ise, dRes „ocneba” TvalSinacars gvayris da gveubneba,danielsonis dokumentSi vadamdeliarCevnebis punqti ariyoo._ anu „ocneba” ityueba?_ dokumentSi es punqti iyoda SaviT TeTrze ewera, romvadamdelTan misasvleli gzaTviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebzegadioda. „qarTulma ocnebam”iTxova, ki batono, amaze Tanaxmavar, magram es dokumentSi nuiqnebao, anu arasruli dokumentiunda migveRo._ e. i., Tqveni saubridangamodis, rom „patriotTaaliansi” am molaparakebebiserTgvari rekviziti iyo dameti araferi?_ araferi rekviziti ar vyofilvarT._ aba?_ logikurad vmsjelob._ diax, gismenT._ saqarTvelos mosaxleobisdidma nawilma miiCnia, rom„ocnebis” mier arCevnebi totaluradgayalbda da vadamde-2424 N6 (338) 19.04-2.05 .2021 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`ocneba~ da `nacmoZraoba~lis Catarebis moTxovnac amitomgaCnda. amas „qarTuli ocnebis”mier xelovnurad Seqmnilisxva problemebi mohyva._ weRan miTxariT, „ocneba”xelisuflebaSi darCenas cdilobso.Tuki asea, maSin gaugebaria,problemebs xe-lovnurad ratomRa qmnis?_ gonebrivi SesaZleblobebicsaWiroa, magram xelisuflebasarc goniereba hyofnisda raRac xafangebs agebs, anufiqrobda, rom arCevnebis gayalbebisSemdeg melias daWeriTpolitikur speqtrs gaTi-Savda, magram amas ver miaRwia.mokled, umTavresi moTxovnaTavdapirvelad vadamdeliarCevnebi iyo da „patriotTaaliansi” dRemde am moTxovniserTgulia._ maSasadame, Tqven vadamde-lis garda arafers iTxovT?_ vadamdelamde misasvleligza TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebzeim SemTxvevaze unda gasuliyo,Tuki arCevnebi sayovel-Taod da savaldebulod gamocxaddeboda.Tu savaldebulogaxdeboda, es imas niSnavda,rom arCevnebSi amomrCevlis,daaxloebiT, 85% miiRebda monawileobas.ase dros ki gayalbebisSansi, rogorc wesi, naklebia._ diax, roca amomrCevlisaqtiuroba maRalia, manipula-ciebisTvis „lufti” aRar rCeba,magram weRan gkiTxeT, bat-ono goCa da, ar mipasuxeT,amitom damikonkreteT: „pa-triotebi” mxolod vadamdelsda imas iTxovdiT, rom arCe-vnebSi monawileoba savaldeb-ulo gamxdariyo?_ diax._ anu politpatimrebis gan-Tavisuflebas mxars ar uWer-diT?_ vidre evrokavSiri CaerTveboda,Sexvedrebi aSS-issaelCoSi imarTeboda. suloTxi raundi gaimarTa da mesameraundze „patriotTa aliansma”SeZlo, rom e. w. politpatimrebisTema molaparakebisformatidan gasuliyo._ e. i., nika melias da gior-gi ruruas politpatimrebadar miiCnevT?_ melia ukanonodaa dapatimrebulida amiT am saqmes politikurielferi SesZines._ ise, gamoricxavT, rom me-lia „ocnebis” proeqti iyos?_ ar minda, aseTi radikalurigancxadeba gavakeTo._ Tqveni nebaa, magram amversias arc kategoriuladuaryofT..._ cxadia, rom melia „qarTuliocnebisa” da „nacionalurimoZraobis” erToblivi TamaSia.modiT, 8 martis SeTanxmeba gavixsenoT,roca „ocnebas” 120/30-ze gadasvla mouwia._ es ra SuaSia?_ maSin igive ruruas, gigiugulavasa da politpatimre-`rac Seexeba namoxvanhess, ar SeiZleba, gonieri adamiani imis winaaRmdegiiyos, rom qveyanam energodamoukideblobas miaRwios, magram rocaraRacisTvis, vTqvaT, erTi kvadratuli miwaa saWiro da am dros Sen aTaskvadratuls aZlev, es kiTxvis niSnebs aCens da problemebs qmnis~bad wodebuli sxvebis Tema arsebobda.„ocnebam” da „nacmoZraobam”ori dokumentiSeadgines, anu politpatimrebisTema calke dokumentad arsebobda,romelzedac xelmomwerebiCven ar viyaviT.mokled, axlac, aSS-is sael-CoSi, molaparakebebze vTqviT,Tu undodaT, es Tema calkedokumentad gaetanaT da, praqtikulad,amaze Tanxmoba arsebobda.sxvaTa Soris, boloetapze „patriotTa aliansi”molaparakebis monawile aRariyo._ ratom?_ politpatimrebze Cven mosazrebebigvqonda. amasTan, vadamdelarCevnebsac ufro radikaluradviTxovdiT. albaT,amitomac ar miiCnies saWirod,rom im garigebis monawilenivyofiliyaviT, romlis mizanic„qarTul ocnebasa” da „nacionalurmoZraobas” Soris Zalauflebisgadanawileba iyo._ asea Tu ise, molaparakebebi,dRevandeli mocemulo-biT, CaSlilia. amasobaSi kieqspremieri politikurad aq-tiurdeba. zogi ambobs, romgaxaria ivaniSvilis proeqtia,anu mTavrobis yofili Tavmj-domare, SesaZloa, „ocnebis”mTavari oponenti gaxdes daarsebuli opozicia „SeWamos”,e. i., „ocneba2" gaxdes. am al-baTobas uSvebT, batono goCa?_ TavisTavad cxadia, romgaxaria „ocneba2" ver iqneba._ cxadi ratomaa?_ gaxaria da is deputacia,romelic gaxarias gahyva, armgonia, rom winasaarCevnodraime Rirebulis Semqmneliiyos, magram ar aris gamoricxuli,rom..._ ra ar aris gamoricxuli?_ „ocnebaSi” fiqroben, rombiZina ivaniSvilma „ocneba” gaxariaTiCaanacvla an amis mcdelobaarsebobs da igive kobaxiZesacradikalur-eiforiuli`Cven gvyavs xelisufleba, romelsacsaqarTvelos mosaxleobis ar esmis daromelic mediatorebis gareSe opozicias verelaparakeba. es aris xelisufleba,romelzedac saerTaSoriso zewola moqmedebsda garkveul cvlilebebze mxolod am wnexisqveS midis! es zewola da wnexi TandaTanZlierdeba. `qarTuli ocneba~ am wnexs vergauZlebs da vadamdeli arCevnebi dainiSneba~gancxadebebi amitom hqonda.Tu gaxarias ivaniSvilisganmxardaWera eqneba, maSin „ocnebis”isedac dabali reitingikidev ufro daiklebs, gaxariasiki _ moimatebs. winaaRmdegSemTxvevaSi, weRandeli Tqmisaar iyos, ar mgonia, rom damoukidebladgaxaria da misi gundiTviTmmarTvelobis an vadamdelisaparlamento arCevnebisTvisraime Rirebulis Semqneliiyos._ e. i., gaxarias ivaniSvilisproeqtad ar miiCnevT, ara?_ Tu gaxaria ivaniSvilisproeqti ar aris, maSin arCevnebzedid warmatebas ver miaRwevs._ bolos, batono goCa, 15maisis aqcias, romlis erTerTimTavari moTxovnac vad-amdeli arCevnebia, „patriot-Ta aliansi” SeuerTdeba?_ „nacionalur moZraobas”da mis momxreebs aqciebi aqamdecCautarebiaT. aqciebs „patriotebic”vatarebT xolme,magram es aqciebi yovelTvisdamoukideblad imarTeba._ mesmis, magram Tqvenc,danarCeni opoziciis msgavsad,vadamdel saparlamento arCevnebsiTxovT da 15 maiss qu-CaSi ratom ar unda gaxvideT?_ Tu „nacionalebisa” da ma-Ti mesveurebis moTxovnebiCvens moTxovnebs emTxveva, esCveni ki ara, xelisuflebisbralia._ mapatieT, magram xelisu-fleba ra SuaSia?_ arCevnebi xelisuflebamgaayalba! rac Seexeba „patriotTaaliansis” gzas, es damoukidebeligzaa, anu Cven Cveniaqciebi gveqneba._ „patriotebi” aqcias ro-dis gegmavT?_ amis Sesaxeb sazogadoebasvacnobebT. yovel SemTxvevaSi,aqcia 15 maiss namdvilad ariqneba._ ise, batono goCa, elodebiT,rom vadamdeli saparlamentoarCevnebi wels dainiS-neba?_ Cven gyvavs xelisufleba,romelsac saqarTvelos mosaxleobisar esmis da romelicmediatorebis gareSe opoziciasver elaparakeba. es arisxelisufleba, romelzedac saerTaSorisozewola moqmedebsda garkveul cvlilebebze mxolodam wnexis qveS midis!es zewola da wnexi TandaTanZlierdeba. „qarTuli ocneba”am wnexs ver gauZlebs da vadamdeliarCevnebi dainiSneba.rac Seexeba imas, rom „nacionalurmoZraobas” arCevnebiaucileblad unda, tyuilia._ ratom?_ es iluziaa, Torem visacvadamdeli arCevnebi unda, amismiRwevis Zalian martivi gzaarsebobs._ kerZod?_ „nacionaluri moZraobisa”da maTi mxardamWeri partiebiswarmomadgenlebi deputatismandatebs inarCuneben. Tu isiniparlamentis wevris uflebamosilebasmoixsnian, dRis wesrigSiavtomaturad dadgebavadamdeli arCevnebis Catarebisaucilebloba._ am adamianebma scades, romdeputatis uflebamosilebamoexsnaT, magram „ocnebis” um-ravlesobam ar mouxsna da ragaakeTon?_ jer erTi, „qarTulma ocnebam”kanoni daarRvia, roca esmoTxovna ar daakmayofila.meorec, kanonSi weria, romparlamentis es gadawyvetilebaSesaZloa, sakonstituciosasamarTloSi gasaCivrdes.zura jafariZis garda naxeTvinme, romelmac sakonstituciosasamarTlos mimarTa?Tu opozicia sadeputatouflebamosilebis moxsnaze isevmimarTavs da parlamenti xelmeoredacantikonstituciurgadawyvetilebas miiRebs, maSinmTeli msoflio gaigebs, romsaqarTveloSi 51 deputati xelborkildadebulihyavT daparlamentSi ZaliT aCereben!aseTi ram CrdiloeT koreaSicar xdeba, magram realurad romvTqvaT, survili ar aqvT, romes uflebamosileba moixsnan davadamdel arCevnebamde ioladmivideT, Torem amis miRwevaZalian martivia!N6 (338) 19.04-2.05 .2021 w.25
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