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seat, calmed, quiet. This from a racist policeman. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve succeeded,<br />

because that’s how you can create human, fraternal relations between people.<br />

S: And which results have you acquired while do<strong>in</strong>g your work?<br />

R: Personal results with people who have participated, that <strong>of</strong> course, but what is <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>terest- <strong>in</strong>g is when people go <strong>in</strong>to action <strong>and</strong> make changes <strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>stitutions. I th<strong>in</strong>k the <strong>in</strong>stitutions<br />

<strong>and</strong> the way they function are responsible for the fact that people become unhappy, fear-<br />

ful, that there is hate <strong>and</strong> racism. So I’m particularly <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> chang<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stitutions,<br />

not only political but to change the way school works, the way the police works, the way<br />

social work is carried out. out.<br />

S: Have you been able to observe this transformation after hav<strong>in</strong>g worked with people <strong>in</strong><br />

those regions <strong>and</strong> <strong>in</strong> those neighbourhoods?<br />

R: Yes, <strong>of</strong> course. I was asked asked to work <strong>in</strong> a post <strong>of</strong>fi ce <strong>in</strong> a neighbourhood on the outskirts<br />

<strong>of</strong> Paris. It was <strong>in</strong> a city where where they have a lot <strong>of</strong> problems at the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce. Employees<br />

would get <strong>in</strong>sulted, aggressed, threatened to death by the users who were ma<strong>in</strong>ly <strong>of</strong><br />

African orig<strong>in</strong>. And the users said the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce employees were racist. The post <strong>of</strong>fi ce<br />

employees said the <strong>in</strong>habitants were violent. They would call <strong>in</strong> the police, for example<br />

because some <strong>in</strong>habitants didn’t want to leave at clos<strong>in</strong>g time. They said they’d break<br />

everyth<strong>in</strong>g. So we worked with the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce employees, the African associations, the<br />

<strong>in</strong>habitants <strong>in</strong> that neighbourhood <strong>and</strong> the police. We had to work a lot to talk about what<br />

was go<strong>in</strong>g on at the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce. We found out about a lot <strong>of</strong> th<strong>in</strong>gs which didn’t work.<br />

An example: the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce required two pieces <strong>of</strong> identifi cation cation <strong>in</strong> order to release cash.<br />

The <strong>in</strong>habitants thought it was because they were black <strong>and</strong> had no trust <strong>in</strong> them. The<br />

reality was that there was a lot <strong>of</strong> theft <strong>of</strong> money orders from people who presented false<br />

identifi cation. So <strong>in</strong> order to protect the <strong>in</strong>habitants, two pieces <strong>of</strong> identifi cation were<br />

requested so that the money orders didn’t get stolen from the <strong>in</strong>habitants. But there was<br />

no explanation. Another th<strong>in</strong>g: poste restante (general delivery). An African gentleman<br />

comes <strong>and</strong> says: “I would like this letter, poste restante, for my wife”. “Yes sir. If you want<br />

that, you need a written authorisation from your wife because we’re only allowed to give it<br />

to your wife. That’s the rule.” But that African gentleman is from Africa, <strong>and</strong> that’s not how<br />

his culture is set up. He says: “But my wife or myself, that just boils down to the same. My<br />

wife just doesn’t have to get a letter if I can’t pick it up for her.” And: “No sir, I’m sorry.”<br />

And the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce lady gets worked up: “No sir, no, you’re not allowed.” “How am I not<br />

allowed!” And so forth. “Bitch!” So we talked about all that. There were other problems.<br />

There was a very long queue, <strong>and</strong> the person who wanted his or her poste restante was<br />

told that he/she couldn’t get it after already st<strong>and</strong><strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> l<strong>in</strong>e for two hours. The entire<br />

group talked about this <strong>and</strong> we made decisions. We decided that there were young people<br />

at the post <strong>of</strong>fi ce, they could go to the queues <strong>and</strong> ask right from the start what people<br />

were com<strong>in</strong>g for <strong>and</strong> to expla<strong>in</strong> them everyth<strong>in</strong>g. So people were less worked up because<br />

if they didn’t have their papers, they would just go <strong>and</strong> get them, <strong>and</strong> so on. We also found<br />

out that a post <strong>of</strong>fi ce employee receives a premium accord<strong>in</strong>g to the number <strong>of</strong> opera- opera-<br />

122 “Multi-Cultural France is becom<strong>in</strong>g a Multi-Racist Society”

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