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Interview Buster Williams<br />

out of the student population. people were amazed-it was incredible. one of the<br />

trumpet players went off to Berklee, another, a piano player went on to oberlin. a<br />

few others are graduating from the creative arts school this semester. i want to be<br />

able to take students at all levels—intermediate and advanced—they can be under<br />

17 too. These students that are in the creative arts school—it’s elementary to high<br />

school, and they are from the urban sector, and they have no money, so i had to<br />

charge something—i did this thing for $400.00 for eight days. it was a giveaway<br />

but it allowed me to hire my instructors and then to have all of these other students<br />

come in for free. i had just a handful of paying students, and instructors who did<br />

this as a burden of love. But going forward, i’m getting my 501-c3, and we’re<br />

gonna’ be getting grants, and i’m putting together my board, and i have people that<br />

have money that are interested in working with me on this.<br />

i got a lot of work to do in preparing this for the summer, because i have to have<br />

housing—i had a student that came down from new York everyday. hopefully i can<br />

have some housing for out of town students this time.<br />

AS: I heard you at Sweet Basil’s in the Village, with Ron Carter’s group. Was<br />

Carter inspired by Oscar Pettiford’s cello playing?<br />

BW: Well, we were all inspired by oscar pettiford. But, he [carter] wasn’t playing<br />

cello. he was playing a piccolo bass. it’s tuned sort of like an upside down cello—<br />

it’s tuned c-G-d-a, the low string is a. Where the high string on the double bass<br />

would be G, on the piccolo bass it’s c—so it’s tuned like a fourth above the bass.<br />

size-wise it’s sort of like half the size of a 3/4 bass—so it’s bigger than a cello.<br />

The length of the fingerboard is still basically the size of a bass, which is 40-41.<br />

AS: That was a very unusual sounding band—did you have to sometimes stay<br />

away from the upper register of your bass to keep the clarity between the<br />

piccolo bass melody and your bass accompaniment?<br />

BW: definitely—it was very challenging. i remember [laughs] i got a phone call<br />

one day from ron, and ron asked me could i come to his house, say monday at<br />

3 o’clock in the afternoon. i said: “sure.” he says: “and bring your bass.” i said:<br />

“oK.” so, ron, you know likes to create a little mystery sometimes, so i didn’t ask<br />

him too many questions, i just accepted what he said. he and i had been friends<br />

since 1968 when i first met him. so, i went to his house and i got there, and there<br />

was Kenny Barron, and there was Ben riley, so i don’t know what where gonna’<br />

do maybe we’re going to play a trio and maybe ron’s gonna’ sing! [cracks up] in<br />

fact i looked at him and i said: “ron, are you going to sing?” he laughed. so,<br />

you know when guys get together we’re laughing and talking, and then ron brings<br />

out this piccolo bass. Kenny sits down at the piano, Ben sits down at the drums<br />

and i had taken my bass out of the cover, and ron brings out the piccolo bass, so<br />

now we’re set up like a quartet—and ron is the horn—it’s quite interesting! and<br />

we proceeded to have a rehearsal. ron had some gigs set up, and that was the<br />

beginning, and we stayed together for five years.<br />

We had sort of like a home base at sweet Basil.<br />

AS: I know, you were there all the time, and the audience¬—like you could<br />

89 | CadenCe Magazine | april May June 2013

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