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99 | CadenCe Magazine | april May June 2013<br />

Interview Carmen Bradford<br />

cB: oh, it was devastating. You know it was so abrupt. We were on our way to<br />

europe the day of his funeral, which was in the morning and we were all there.<br />

The church was packed and there were thousands outside, it was very emotional.<br />

joe Williams sang, and i sang.<br />

CAD: You sang? That must have been hard?<br />

cB: i cried through it, got to the last couple of notes but didn’t quite make it, it was<br />

devastating. But we left the church, all had lunch and went to the airport and went<br />

to europe that evening, we had gigs.<br />

CAD: That’s the best compliment you could have paid him. But someone had to<br />

assume leadership?<br />

cB: Well yes, it was decided that eric dixon would introduce the band and<br />

announce the tunes, then he’d sit down and play, which he did. Then they thought<br />

that freddie Greene should do it, as he’d been so long associated with the band<br />

and they needed someone who was a Basie legend, but that didn’t happen.<br />

CAD: So who did take the job? They would have needed a piano player right<br />

away?<br />

cB: i think they called Tee carson who used to be ella’s piano player, so then we<br />

had jobs with cab calloway but that didn’t work out, and i guess Thad jones was<br />

the first one.<br />

CAD: Of course Thad was in the band?<br />

cB: right, he was first, then frank foster after that and then Grover mitchell, then<br />

Bill hughes and now dennis mackrel.<br />

CADl That fixes the pronunciation of Denis’s name. We heard someone put the<br />

emphasis on the first syllable, but it’s the second?<br />

cB: Yes it’s mac-krel. it’s a common mistake but he says it’s easy to read the<br />

other way so he just lets it go.<br />

CAD: Now during these changes of leadership through the years, was the<br />

band’s repertoire fairly rigid? Did they change the actual program much?<br />

cB: Well the band’s book was huge because you know they were still doing a lot of<br />

dances too, a lot of private affairs, and they recorded a zillion things, those were all<br />

in the book. of course they always had to play their hits, but Basie used the entire<br />

book and those charts just got sweeter and sweeter each time.<br />

CAD: You never got a chance to record with Basie?<br />

cB: not with Basie, no, but with the band yes. i did two cds with the band.<br />

CAD: You stayed with the band through several leader changes?<br />

cB: Well i left the band when frank foster was the leader but after i left they<br />

continued to hire me. There was a singer after me named chris morell but if he as<br />

unable to make a gig, and even after he left, they continued to call me. and also<br />

my mother was the singer for the band too,.<br />

CAD: How often did she work with the band?<br />

cB: she’s been with them on and off about six years now.<br />

CAD: She still works with them?<br />

cB: Yes! They either call my mom or me.

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