Elaine Browne.pdf - Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University

Prof Delport: So do I gather that the way that the music is presented in the Curriculum is not true to yourself,
like, like it’s, it’s a Western concept?
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A: Yes it’s a Western concept. It does a Western concept on it, because, I don’t think in our culture we do speak
of sevibreves or that stuff, we just hum it, hum it and then it goes that that…
B: Even, even the songs that they introduce there are the Western songs like, oh like Baba Black Sheep, have
you any wool? (She sings it) Oh those songs and then we don’t have those songs, just the songs that have been
sung, songs from the crèche. So they introduce those songs.
Elaine: And the visual art?
A: Mmm, the visual art. Ahh you see, with the visual art there is no structure that must follow this pattern but
ah, ah, ah ah I, we, we do it but not that much. Ja ah, ah I, we did a painting. They, they took the piece of paper,
fold the paper, they put the paint, the wet paint and then they use the palm of their hand (he shows with his
hand). Then the pattern came out you see. Some they use straws with a lot of paper and then (he blows) like
so…. So there is no structure. They’ve got those … whatever, drawings from down there, those schetches, you
see. There is no formula that says you must do this and do that.
Prof Delport: So, so do you find it easy to do visual art with the learners?
A: They, they do like it very much (3x). But you see we do have, you see things like paints, that stuff and
brushes are scarce, are scarce. We do have scarcity of those things. You find that when. They like to draw (3x)
even if you are in the art class but talking about something someone will be drawing something, taking
something. They like to draw. If they’d been given every time of drawing, I am sure they can do something. They
enjoy it. But we don’t have much paint, so we conserve the paint.
Prof Delport: Sissy you look very quiet. What do you have to say about music and visual art?
D: No its better for us, if we do the painting, the children enjoy it.
Elaine: And the drama section?
A: (Laughing) I, I ah, ah, this year I have not touched the drama section. Because ah, ah you see, I meet them
twice a week. Now may be I give them something to do, that to draw something to and then we do those songs,
but I am sure I was going to tackle the drama with the third or something like that. The third semester. I was
about to do it in the third semester.
Prof Delport: So you don’t do it together? Like music and ...
A: Yes, yes that’s how I do it. I don’t know about the others. At our school we, I was going to take music this
session and then we take visual arts and do masks and all that stuff. Now we do ...... and we will see the drama.