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T: They like to dance, they like to sing, they like to dance, they like to draw ah, but some of the things especially
when it comes to drama, they are reluctant. They are shy you know, ja.
U: Look at me, like if you, if you are talking about dancing the most illustrated dance in their books is ballet.
What on earth have I ever seen ballet. I was never, I was never introduced to ballet and I never even went to
and see it. It never interest me because it is not my thing. So there is ballet then. They want to do ballet but
who is going to teach them ballet.
Elaine: But you also said they didn’t tell you how to do the dancing of your culture. So you don’t really know
your cultural dances.
U: No, I don’t know it. I grew up in Port Elizabeth, we don’t dance Xhosa dances here. We jive here.
(All laugh at that comment.)
V: We all love dancing here.
U: If someone comes with doing that we are all interested because this is our thing but we don’t know it. If it is
done on TV like in the festival, we like to watch it because it’s new even to us. We never grew up in the rural
areas.
Elaine: Anything else you want to add?
U: I would like to add. Arts and Culture is very good a, a, a learning area as long as the Department of Education
can try and simplify it, devide it into sections just like Mrs. ... said, divide it into, this first quarter we doing
drawings, the second we do music, the third quarter we will do dances like if it could be a continuous thing up
to the end so that they can see the end result and even make like to do competitions that is going towards an
end result. There I think it would be something otherwise it is, it’s got what is challenging. More especially, like
Black people can do things, I know as long as they have got the good guidance and they’ve got, as long as
they’ve got the resources, they can do it.
Elaine: I know you are very talented people and you must just get good guidance...
U: Good guidance will do.
Elaine: And you?
V: If a, a, a divided this Arts and Culture, let’s say the music for grade 4 for my learners. They’re small. I must do
a certain part and stop here and then grade 6 teacher must continiue from that until grade 9 and not repeat
what I have done in grade 4, to grade 9. In it say, for this term do this steps, second term, do this and this, it
would be continuous and and and the music, I must do the 4/4 measure do the do re me fa so and the 1234,
1234 and the grade 6 teacher do three plus meter, three quarter meter or something like that and then grade 9
a bit deeper. I am sure I will love it if it was like that.