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Helen Sommers: An Oral History

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Dean Foster<br />

by this time had never been in the majority. <strong>Helen</strong><br />

had been, but most hadn’t. The Democrat’s leader<br />

was Frank Chopp and he asked me to come back<br />

because I had been there previously. I agreed to<br />

come back as long as the agreement was to start<br />

looking for someone to replace me as soon as possible.<br />

So, I was there for one year.<br />

Frank and I had conversations about how to<br />

proceed. Because it was most convenient, people<br />

were pushing to adopt the same model that was<br />

used in the first tie. But the situation was quite a<br />

bit different! The players were different; the political<br />

atmosphere was different! In the 1999 tie,<br />

there just wasn’t the cooperation between the two<br />

political parties and their leaders that there was<br />

in the 1979 tie.<br />

Monahan: You worked for Governor Booth Gardner<br />

for eight years (1985-1993). How did Gardner<br />

compare to other governors you’d worked with<br />

during your career in the House? <strong>An</strong>d, what was<br />

your position in his administration.<br />

Chief Clerk Foster: Well, Booth defeated Spellman<br />

in 1984. Spellman lost because they got into such<br />

fiscal trouble. The Legislature was tied in knots in<br />

his first two years. Booth was a sort of a shining<br />

light! He added a positive attitude to state government<br />

and its employees, whereas the Spellman years<br />

were very difficult. When Booth came in things<br />

were starting to get better, so the fiscal side didn’t<br />

have anything to do with Booth being governor; it<br />

had to do with time.<br />

But the attitude toward state government got<br />

better and that did happen because of Booth. People<br />

really liked him and had confidence in him. He<br />

brought in new people in his administration that<br />

started doing some real positive things for him and<br />

for the state. It was a good time for the state.<br />

I started out as Chief of Staff and then we did<br />

some reorganization, and I had a variety of other<br />

titles: Director of Internal Operations; Deputy Chief<br />

of Staff. I was there all eight years, and probably<br />

would have stayed with Booth had he run for a third<br />

term. At one time there was consideration that Booth<br />

might run for U.S. Senate. I think he chatted with<br />

Dan Evans about that. Booth got bored when he<br />

served in the state Senate, and Booth thought he’d<br />

pg. 167<br />

probably get bored in the U.S. Senate too. Booth<br />

served just two years of a four-year term (1971-73)<br />

in the state Senate. He really was a CEO type.<br />

Monahan: Did you have any dealings with <strong>Helen</strong><br />

during the period you were in Gov. Gardner’s office.<br />

Chief Clerk Foster: Oh, <strong>Helen</strong> was heavily involved<br />

with budget stuff in the House. She and I’d been<br />

friends for years and so there may have been some<br />

things. <strong>Helen</strong> wasn’t the kind of legislator who would<br />

come into your office and complain about things.<br />

She just always was a hard worker and knew where<br />

she was going. She was intense most of the time,<br />

heavy into policy, and honest as you could get!<br />

She sometimes lacked political acumen to back<br />

away a little bit when it was pretty obvious that there<br />

had to be some movement toward the center. But, I<br />

don’t believe she ever did that out of spite, but just<br />

simply because she believed in something and thought<br />

it was the right thing to do. I think she brought<br />

professionalism to the budgeting process and forced<br />

people to understand policy choices as opposed to<br />

political choices. I think that is what she brought.<br />

Monahan: The one thing that I learned doing interviews<br />

with people who worked with <strong>Helen</strong>, is<br />

that higher education was what she really looked<br />

out for and responded to. She was the ‘protector’<br />

of higher ed. for all of her career.<br />

Now, she’s gone from the Legislature. <strong>An</strong>d I<br />

think the colleges and universities must be looking<br />

for someone to follow the lead <strong>Helen</strong> had set, to<br />

fill her shoes for higher ed.<br />

Chief Clerk Foster: I presume they are. What <strong>Helen</strong><br />

has done over the years is continue her bent toward<br />

higher education by involving it in her budget. I<br />

don’t know that we’re ever going to see somebody<br />

who has that ability because, while she had the<br />

University of Washington in her backyard, it wasn’t<br />

in her district. Now days most legislators have a<br />

university, college or community college in their<br />

district, and that’s what they look at. They don’t<br />

have the big higher education policy and money<br />

picture that <strong>Helen</strong> did! I’m sure they’re looking for<br />

somebody like that, and I doubt they’re going to<br />

find anybody. <strong>Helen</strong> always had a long-term vision<br />

for higher education.

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