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The Paris Review - Fall 2016

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INTERVIEWER<br />

Do you think that over those forty years those awards have had an effect in<br />

terms of widening the range of books that get published and read?<br />

REED<br />

Absolutely. I mean, some of those people who’ve gotten awards, it’s helped<br />

them get tenured, it’s given them shelf life. <strong>The</strong> American Book Awards is<br />

competitive. As a matter of fact, the NEA ranked the American Book Awards<br />

with the Pulitzers and the National Book Awards. <strong>The</strong> Washington Post asked<br />

if the American Book Awards are the American League to the National Book<br />

Awards’s National League. We have a little office and got a nice grant last year.<br />

INTERVIEWER<br />

Do you think it’s important that artists build their own bases of power?<br />

REED<br />

You just want to use up whatever equipment you can get. When I got that<br />

MacArthur grant, I said, Everybody is going to benefit from this. So I<br />

financed an opera, we called it a gospera, using a whole bunch of black people<br />

in our community who were singers, artists. And then I financed plays where<br />

black actors had challenging roles, not prostitutes or maids or anything, and<br />

then I published books, including a couple of books from Nigeria. My plan<br />

was to publish books from each country in Africa. That didn’t work out. But<br />

I said thousands of people would benefit if I ever got one of those grants,<br />

and, you know, thousands have.<br />

What was the gospera?<br />

INTERVIEWER<br />

REED<br />

I was commissioned by the San Francisco Opera to create something about<br />

Christ’s arrest and the garden of Gethsemane. I took some liberties with the<br />

story. I put Beelzebub in there and his character was bent on getting revenge<br />

for an exorcism that Christ did. I had Lazarus complain about being brought<br />

back from the dead and his mother complaining about having to take care<br />

of him. And at the end, when the Romans ask Judas to identify Jesus, he<br />

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