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Thursday, 13 October 2016 <strong>SENATE</strong> 55<br />
QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE<br />
Attorney-General<br />
Senator O'NEILL (New South Wales) (14:01): My question is to the Attorney-General, Senator Brandis. Did<br />
the Attorney-General seek legal advice in relation to the Legal Services Amendment (Solicitor-General Opinions)<br />
Direction 2016 before tabling it in the Senate on 4 May 2016, or did he rely on his own opinion?<br />
Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of<br />
the Government in the Senate) (14:01): Senator, as I have been saying ad nauseam, I actually consulted the<br />
Solicitor-General in relation to the matter on 30 November. I invited him to put his views in writing, which he did<br />
some 14 weeks later, and I had regard to those views.<br />
Senator O'NEILL (New South Wales) (14:01): I refer to the submission of Dr Gavan Griffith QC, who was<br />
the Solicitor-General for 14 years, in which he says that the direction was:<br />
… ultra vires and of no effect as a lawful direction …<br />
Is the Attorney-General confident that the former Solicitor-General, Dr Gavan Griffith QC, is wrong?<br />
Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of<br />
the Government in the Senate) (14:02): I have read the remarks attributed to Dr Griffith, but the legal services<br />
direction was published—the current Solicitor-General having been consulted in relation to it and on the advice of<br />
my department.<br />
Senator O'NEILL (New South Wales) (14:02): Given that such eminent and well-respected legal figures as<br />
Solicitor-General Gleeson SC and former Solicitor-General Gavan Griffith QC state the direction is legally<br />
invalid, how can senators possibly be asked to accept the Attorney-General's assertions to the contrary when he<br />
has a reputation for being 'slippery' with the facts.<br />
Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of<br />
the Government in the Senate) (14:03): I have nothing to add to my previous answer.<br />
National Security<br />
Senator DUNIAM (Tasmania) (14:03): My question is to the Attorney-General, Senator Brandis. Can the<br />
Attorney-General update the Senate on the counterterrorism operation that occurred in Sydney yesterday?<br />
Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of<br />
the Government in the Senate) (14:03): Thank you, Senator Duniam, for asking a serious question. This morning,<br />
the New South Wales Joint Counter Terrorism Team charged two juveniles with terror-related offences, being:<br />
acts done in preparation for, or planning, terrorist acts, under section 101.6 of the Commonwealth Criminal Code,<br />
an offence which attracts a penalty of life imprisonment; and membership of a terrorist organisation, under section<br />
102.3 of the Criminal Code, an offence which attracts a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment.<br />
The juveniles, both aged 16 years, were arrested yesterday, by the New South Wales police, in possession of<br />
two bayonet-type knives. This successful disruption is the result of the highly effective coordination of the New<br />
South Wales Joint Counter Terrorism Team, which includes the New South Wales police, the Australian Federal<br />
Police and ASIO. Australia's law enforcement and security agencies are among the best in the world, and, on<br />
behalf of the government, I commend those officers for disrupting, quickly and safely, what is alleged to have<br />
been plans for an imminent terrorist attack.<br />
I can further advise there is no ongoing threat to the community in relation to this particular incident.<br />
Nevertheless, the national terrorism threat level remains at 'probable', as it has been since, under the old scheme, it<br />
was elevated to 'high' on 12 September 2014. That means that a terrorism event is assessed to be likely. We have<br />
experienced four terror-related attacks in Australia since the national terrorism threat level was raised in<br />
September 2014. This is now the 11th planned attack disrupted by our law enforcement and security agencies in<br />
that time.<br />
The PRESIDENT: Senator Duniam, a supplementary question.<br />
Senator DUNIAM (Tasmania) (14:05): I thank the Attorney for the answer. Can the Attorney-General<br />
provide further information about the current threat environment?<br />
Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of<br />
the Government in the Senate) (14:05): Sadly, Senator Duniam, this disruption continues to highlight the<br />
disturbing trend of increasingly young Australians subscribing to violent terrorist ideologies, and it underscores<br />
the need for us to remain vigilant against the ongoing threat of radicalisation in our communities.<br />
Since 12 September 2014 when, as I have said, the national threat level was raised, 51 people have been<br />
charged as a result of 21 counterterrorism operations around Australia. There remain around 110 Australians<br />
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