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LeaderBoard<br />

THE 10-Q<br />

How to Survive a<br />

Stampeding Elephant<br />

Billionaire Tom Siebel on why small firms outperform mammoth rivals,<br />

GE’s innovation problem and one very memorable safari.<br />

Your 2009 elephant goring: What’s<br />

the story?<br />

Daybreak in the Serengeti. I’m armed with<br />

a Nikon. Herd of 15 elephants, 200 yards<br />

away. Gust of wind. Matriarch charges us.<br />

Then?<br />

She hurls the guide about 12 yards away<br />

and races up to me. I can smell her. I took<br />

a tusk through my left leg. She stepped on<br />

my right leg, and my foot came off.<br />

By “off,” you mean . . . ?<br />

Detached! Hanging on by a flap of skin.<br />

That’s your pattern: Start a company.<br />

Then get almost killed.<br />

We started Siebel Systems in 1993. Two<br />

years later, I was kicked by a horse. The<br />

prognosis: “permanent, irreparable brain<br />

damage.” It’s hard to tell whether that<br />

prognosis turned out to be accurate or<br />

not [laughs].<br />

What makes IoT software a hard problem<br />

to solve?<br />

Integration. You need a base of big-data<br />

and predictive-analytics capabilities, and<br />

a platform for third-party apps.<br />

So does this mean Silicon Valley wins the<br />

IoT sweepstakes?<br />

No. The next generation of IoT apps in,<br />

say, the aerospace industry probably come<br />

from Honeywell, not Silicon Valley. Same<br />

in health care. And so on.<br />

How did Oracle, your alma mater, spin<br />

off so many great entrepreneurs: you,<br />

Marc Benioff and others?<br />

Larry Ellison hires bright, type A, thinkoutside-of-the-box-type<br />

people. But<br />

Oracle never encouraged a lot of internal<br />

entrepreneurism. So people who were<br />

entrepreneurs needed to go get that experience<br />

someplace else.<br />

ENTERTAINMENT<br />

Richest Rappers<br />

THE ONLY THING more predictable than<br />

a Diddy name change? His place atop our<br />

annual list of the wealthiest hip-hop artists.<br />

But the man formally known as Sean<br />

Combs now has some real competition.<br />

Jay Z’s fortune has jumped 30% in the<br />

past year after a $200 million investment<br />

from Sprint reportedly put the valuation<br />

of his music-streaming service, Tidal, at<br />

$600 million, more than ten times what he<br />

paid for the company two years ago.<br />

Which rapper will hit billionaire status<br />

first? Hard to say. Diddy has a lucrative<br />

Cîroc vodka deal with Diageo, while Jay Z<br />

augments his portfolio with a champagne<br />

brand, Armand de Brignac, and a growing<br />

entertainment company, Roc Nation.<br />

1.<br />

DIDDY<br />

NET WORTH:<br />

$820 MIL<br />

Perhaps the verdict comes through your<br />

latest startup, C3 Internet of Things?<br />

The Internet of Things needs a software<br />

platform. Today there are 19 billion<br />

sensors. In five years, 50 billion.<br />

But why your startup? Huge companies like<br />

GE plan to own the IoT market.<br />

GE is the world’s greatest 19th-century<br />

company. Its market value the last 17<br />

years has gone from $475 billion to<br />

about $250 billion. Nice job. These<br />

guys make valves and pumps.<br />

So, small companies always win<br />

during transitions?<br />

Microsoft built its first<br />

product with two people.<br />

Apple did it with four.<br />

GE takes 3,000 mediocre<br />

people and says, “Build<br />

a software stack.”<br />

TOM SIEBEL SPOKE WITH RICH KARLGAARD, OUR EDITOR-AT-LARGE<br />

AND GLOBAL FUTURIST. THIS INTERVIEW HAS BEEN EDITED AND CONDENSED.<br />

FOR THE EXTENDED CONVERSATION, VISIT FORBES.COM/SITES/RICHKARLGAARD.<br />

3.<br />

DR. DRE<br />

$740 MIL<br />

2.<br />

JAY Z<br />

$810 MIL<br />

4.<br />

BIRDMAN<br />

$110 MIL<br />

5.<br />

DRAKE<br />

$90 MIL<br />

RICHEST RAPPERS BY ZACK O’MALLEY GREENBURG WITH NATALIE ROBEHMED<br />

TIMOTHY ARCHIBALD FOR FORBES (LEFT); KEVIN MAZUR/GETTY IMAGES; MIKE<br />

COPPOLA/GETTY IMAGES; AMANDA EDWARDS/GETTY IMAGES; DAVE KOTINSKY/<br />

BET/GETTY IMAGES; ANDREW LIPOVSKY/NBCU PHOTO BANK/GETTY IMAGES<br />

28 | FORBES JUNE <strong>13</strong>, <strong>2017</strong>

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