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18 seqtemberi - 1 oqtomberi 2009<br />
ba gaqvs. rTuli saqmea, magram Zalian<br />
sainteresoa. ase rom ar iyos, amdens<br />
ver vimuSavebdi.<br />
_ Tumca sakuTari wignebis gamocemiT<br />
bevri iwyebs...<br />
_ xSirad iwyeben ase, magram me amas<br />
sxvagvarad vuyurebdi. vfiqrobdi, rom<br />
Tavdapirvelad jobda dasavlur standarts<br />
gavtolebodi, xolo Semdeg,<br />
sakuTari gamocdilebiT, igive standartis<br />
sakuTari produqcia mekeTebina.<br />
_ sakuTari wignebis gamocemaze<br />
muSaoba Tqveni saqmianobis axali etapia.<br />
rodis da rogor daiwyeT<br />
_ pirveli nabiji SarSan gadavdgi.<br />
sabavSvo prozis konkursi gamovacxade.<br />
saqme is aris, rom dRes kargi teqstebisa<br />
da kargi ilustraciebis problema<br />
dgas. Tuki ar gyavs mwerali, romelsac<br />
`gaqaCav”, `fromouSens” gaukeTeb<br />
_ ise sakuTari produqciis Seqmnaze<br />
fiqrs azri ar aqvs. konkursiT amitomac<br />
daviwye. bevrma miiRo monawileoba.<br />
sapremio fondi aTi aTas lars<br />
Seadgenda. aqedan, pirveli premiisTvis<br />
literaturuli gazeTi<br />
_ rogorc gamomcemlebs. sazogadoebas<br />
iseTi kreativi SesTavazes, rogoric<br />
manamde ar iyo. gamocemuli gvaqvs<br />
maTi `egviptologia”, `piratologia”,<br />
`miTologia”. male `okeanologia”<br />
daibeWdeba. Zalian magari gamocemebia.<br />
_ erTi aseTi gamocemis momzadebas<br />
ra dro miaqvs<br />
_ mTeli masala failebiT modis,<br />
gamomcemlobaSi is maleve muSavdeba,<br />
iTargmneba, mzaddeba, Tumca stambaSi<br />
gadagzavnasa da dabeWdvas dro sWirdeba.<br />
magaliTad, axla vgegmavT wigns,<br />
romelic gaisad, zafxulis miwuruls<br />
gamova.<br />
rogorc wesi, tiraJs Cvens TanagamomcemlebTan<br />
erTad vbeWdavT, es<br />
orivesTvis didi SeRavaTia, ase rom ar<br />
iyos, wigni gacilebiT Zviri dagvijdeboda.<br />
_ ese igi tiraJs ingliselebTan<br />
erTad beWdavT<br />
_ aramxolod maTTan. warmoidgineT,<br />
gamocemis ufleba saqarTvelos<br />
garda nayidi aqvs germanias, poloneTs<br />
da a. S. SeiZleba xuTi-eqvsi qveynis tiraJi<br />
erTdroulad daibeWdos. Semdeg<br />
mxolod teqstebi ecvleba. Tanagamocemis<br />
teqnologiebi cnobilia msoflioSi.<br />
gamomcemelma es unda icodes.<br />
Tu ar icis, unda iswavlos. aucilebelia<br />
gayidvebis, fromouSenisa Tu sxva<br />
uamrav teqnologiaSic erkveodes, sxvagvarad<br />
win ver wava.<br />
_ gamomcemlobisTvis xuTi weli<br />
bevri ar aris. am yvelafris daufleba<br />
mcire droSi rogor SeZeliT<br />
_ Zalian bevrs vmuSaobdi. rasac<br />
vakeTeb sakmarisi ar aris. Cveni rangis,<br />
Cveni masStabis qveynisTvis weliwadSi<br />
sul cota xuTjer, aTjer met<br />
wigns unda gamovcemde. Tan, ra Tqma<br />
unda, sakuTari wignebi unda mqondes.<br />
kargia, roca saukeTeso produqciis<br />
zusti asli gadmogaqvs da yidi _ amas<br />
araerTi weli movandome _ magram aucilebelia<br />
Seni wignebic akeTo, saku-<br />
Tari kreativi Seqmna. amisTvis teqstebis<br />
avtorebi, ilustratorebi unda<br />
moiZio, resursebi unda Seqmna... maSin<br />
SegeZleba CaTvalo, rom gamomcemloxuTi<br />
aTasi lari dadginda, meores-<br />
Tvis _ sami aTasi, xolo mesame adgilze<br />
gasuls ori aTasi lari ergo.<br />
Tanxa `bazisbankma” gaiRo. konkursis<br />
Sedegebma gamaoca. pirveli premia<br />
daimsaxura nato daviTaSvilma, romlis<br />
nawarmoebic `roca frTosani<br />
lomebi dabrundebian” male wignad<br />
gamova. es aris Zalian maRali rangis,<br />
fentezis Janris nawarmoebi. daaxloebiT<br />
samas gverdamdea, uaRresad seriozuli<br />
namuSevaria. amave Janris<br />
cnobil dasavlur nawarmoebebs arafriT<br />
Camouvardeba da yvelaze maRal<br />
standartebs utoldeba. gasakviria,<br />
saqarTveloSi am Janris wignebi didad<br />
arc iwereboda, saidan `moitana”<br />
avtorma aseTi maRali xarisxis fentezi,<br />
marTlac ar vici. swored am dReebSi,<br />
indoeTidan _ wignebs iq vbeWdavT<br />
_ sasignalo egzemplars velodebi.<br />
cxadia, Cvens bazarze rom gavitan,<br />
Sesabamis `fromouSens” gavukeTeb<br />
da didi warmateba eqneba, magram,<br />
amave dros didi imedi maqvs, rom mas<br />
ucxoeTSic gavyidi. SemiZlia daviqadno<br />
kidec _ gamomcemeli ar viyo,<br />
Tu es wigni ar vTargmno da evropaSi<br />
ar gavitano.<br />
mokled, teqstebi aris. konkursma<br />
araerTi saintereso avtori gamoamJRavna.<br />
mis gamarTvas yovel or weliwadSi<br />
erTxel vapireb. sabavSvo <strong>proza</strong>Si<br />
yovelwliuri konkursi Sedegebis<br />
mxriv, vfiqrob, naklebad efeqturi<br />
iqneba. Tan, Tuki vinme didi<br />
tanis nawarmoebis daweras ganizraxavs,<br />
ecodineba, rom dro aqvs da See-<br />
Zleba wynarad imuSaos. vici, rom ramdenime<br />
avtori momavali wlis konkursisaTvis<br />
ukve emzadeba.<br />
_karg teqstebs Sesabamisi gaformeba<br />
esaWiroeba.<br />
_ problemis meore mxarea ilustratorebi.<br />
Zalian bevri kargi mxatvari<br />
gvyavs, magram ilustratori _<br />
naklebad. TiTebze CamosaTvlelia<br />
iseTi ostati, vinc maRali rangis wignis<br />
Sesabamisad gaformebas SeZlebs;<br />
imitom rom kargi naxati, karg ilustracias<br />
ar niSnavs. es sakmaod specifikuri<br />
saqmea, erTgvari xelobaa,<br />
romelic codnas moiTxovs. Tu mxatvars<br />
es codna ar aqvs, Tu mas teqst-<br />
Tan urTierToba ar SeuZlia, Tu bavSvis<br />
fsiqologias ar icnobs _<br />
araferi gamouva. wigni xom erTiani<br />
produqtia, igi teqstis, Sriftis, naxatisa<br />
da sxva uamravi komponentis<br />
erTobliobas gulisxmobs, mxatvarma<br />
es teqnologia unda icodes. dasavleTSi<br />
amas aswavlian. mec aseTi idea<br />
maqvs: gaisad, gazafxulze, ilustratorTa<br />
konkursis gamarTvas vapireb.<br />
iq gamovlenil saukeTeso ilustratorebs,<br />
gamarjvebulTagan maT, visac<br />
romelime ucxo ena ecodineba, ucxoeTSi<br />
gavgzavni _ aseTi saxis premia<br />
iqneba. evropaSi arsebobs sazafxulo<br />
skolebi, sadac sabavSvo wignebis ilustrirebas<br />
aswavlian. aseTi skolebi<br />
italiaSi, germaniasa da safrangeTSi<br />
ukve moviZie.<br />
xangrZlivi Ziebisa da muSaobis<br />
Sedegad, ori Zalian kargi ilustratori<br />
ukve gvyavs. erTi maTgani gamomcemlobis<br />
Statis TanamSromeli gaxda,<br />
xolo meoresTan xelSekrulebas<br />
vdebT xolme da samuSaos vukveTavT.<br />
es pirveli nabijia, radgan roca weliwadSi<br />
ramdenime aTeuli wignis<br />
gamocemas apireb, Tan Zalian maRal<br />
doneze, erTi-ori ilustratoriT<br />
amas ver SeZleb.<br />
_ roca sakuTari wignebis gamocemas<br />
daiwyebT, Tqvens ZiriTad mimarTulebad<br />
isev sabavSvo literatura<br />
darCeba Tu am mxrivac raime cvlilebebs<br />
unda velodeT<br />
_ vfiqrob, bolomde sabavSvo gamomcemlobad<br />
davrCebiT. produqciis<br />
daaxloebiT 80 procents mainc sabavSvo<br />
wigni daikavebs, danarCeni ki<br />
sxvadasxva literatura iqneba, vgulisxmob<br />
rogorc mxatvruls, ise SemecnebiT,<br />
samecniero-popularulsa da<br />
sxva. magaliTad, axla vmuSaobT aramxatvrul<br />
gamocemaze, gvinda qarTuli<br />
naqargobis Sesaxeb wigni gavakeToT.<br />
es iqneba uxvad ilustrirebuli, kargad<br />
gaformebuli wigni, saintereso,<br />
SemecnebiTi xasiaTis teqstiT. aq mo-<br />
Txrobili iqneba qarTuli naqargobis<br />
ganviTarebis, misi semantikis Sesaxeb...<br />
zemoT, Cvens mier gamocemuli `qarTuli<br />
prozis anTologia” vaxsene, is<br />
Cveulebrivi sakiTxavi wignia, Tumca<br />
saskolo moxmarebisTvisac gamoiyeneba,<br />
am SemTxvevaSic igive stili avir-<br />
CieT: marTalia, `qarTuli naqargoba”<br />
sabavSvo gamocema ar iqneba, Tumca ma-<br />
Rali klasis moswavleebs daainteresebs<br />
da gamoadgeba. Cveni gamocemebi<br />
am niSans yovelTvis SeinarCunebs.<br />
_ uaxloes xanebSi ra wignebs SemogvTavazebT<br />
_ axla indoeTidan erTdroulad<br />
sami wigni Camodis. esenia `beWdebis<br />
mbrZanebeli”, `ozis jadoqari” seriidan<br />
~Wizard of z” da Cveni konkursis<br />
gamarjvebuli `roca frTosani<br />
lomebi dabrundebian”. simboluria,<br />
rom ori fantastika _ jon ronald<br />
tolkinisa da qarTveli avtoris, nato<br />
daviTaSvilis wignebi erTad gamova.<br />
_ Ceulebriv, gamomcemlebi Tavisi<br />
saqmianobis areals komerciul da<br />
arakomerciul proeqtebad yofen,<br />
amboben, rom biznesis TvalsazrisiT<br />
momgebiani gamocemebis xarjze, isini<br />
arakomerciuli, Tumca maRalmxatvruli<br />
Rirebulebis proqtebis<br />
ganxorcielebas axerxeben. maxsovs,<br />
erTxel am Temaze saubrobdiT, maSin<br />
TqviT, arakomerciul wigns arasodes<br />
gamovcemo. ratom<br />
_ imitom rom es Cemi stili ar aris.<br />
aseTi koncefcia maqvs: me vmuSaob<br />
im `mindorSi”, sadac komercia da kulturulad<br />
maRali rangis literatura<br />
erTmaneTs kveTs. es gadakveTis<br />
adgilia swored Cemi saqmianobis sfero.<br />
arasodes gamovcem komerciul<br />
wigns, romlis mxatvrul Rirebuleba-<br />
Si eWvi mepareba da yovelTvis uars<br />
vityvi iseT gamocemaze, ragind genialuri<br />
teqstic unda iyos, romlis<br />
Tanxasac realizaciiT ver amoviReb.<br />
SesaZloa, is marTlac fantastikuri<br />
wigni iyos, magram oTxmoc kacze meti<br />
mkiTxveli ar hyavdes _ misi amgvari<br />
midgomiT gamocema principulad arasworad<br />
mimaCnia. Tu marTla aseTi kargi<br />
wignia, maSin gamomcemelo, modi ise<br />
gaisarje, rom es gamocema mcirekomerciul<br />
proeqtad mainc aqcio _<br />
kargi wigni gaakeTe, kargad miawode<br />
mkiTxvels, warudgine sazogadoebas<br />
da SeZeli masze daxarjuli Tanxac amoiRo<br />
da honoraric gasce. sagamomcemlo<br />
biznesSi amis uamravi saSualeba,<br />
teqnologiebi arsebobs. magaliTad,<br />
germaniaSi robert muzili XX saukunis<br />
mTavar mwerlad daasaxeles, Tumca<br />
CvenTan mas bevri mkiTxveli ar<br />
hyavs. ra Tqma unda, aseT avtors gamoscem,<br />
ise gaakeTeb, rom wigniT inteleqtualur<br />
wreebsac daaintereseb, sxva<br />
wreebsac da a.S. SesaZloa es `hari poteris”<br />
msgavsi komerciuli proeqti<br />
ar iyos, magram amas ar aqvs mniSvneloba.<br />
mTavaria, sagamomcemlo Jini aCveno,<br />
Tqva _ `me amas gavakeTeb” da bevri<br />
imuSao amisTvis. magram arasodes<br />
vityvi: `me davbeWdav, Taroze davdeb<br />
da mniSvneloba ar aqvs rogor gaiyideba”.<br />
swored amas vTvli araswor<br />
damokidebulebad da ara imas, rom naklebadcnobili,<br />
magram kargi mwerlis<br />
gamocemaze uari vTqva. gamovcem<br />
kidec da komerciul avtoradac vaqcev.<br />
_ gamomcemlebi rom amboben cota<br />
mkiTxveli ariso, SesaZloa, amis<br />
interviu<br />
13<br />
mizezi, sxvasTan erTad, swored sazogadoebis<br />
dainteresebis, misTvis<br />
produqciis jerovnad miwodebis<br />
problemac iyos.<br />
_ cxadia. TbilisSi asamde gamomcemlobaa.<br />
warmoidgineT, maT adgilas<br />
saukeTeso ingliseli, germaneli,<br />
frangi, amerikeli gamomcemlebi rom<br />
daasaqmo... naxeT, ori wlis Semdeg<br />
qarTuli sagamomcemlo sivrce ra saxes<br />
miiRebs. aRmoaCenT, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
masobrivad kiTxuloben wignebs!<br />
sagamomcemlo saqmeSi uamravi meTodologia<br />
arsebobs, misi codna, teqnologiebis<br />
amuSaveba Zalian Secvlis<br />
suraTs.<br />
_ amisTvis avtorebmac bevri unda<br />
iSromon...<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. dRes Zalian bevri<br />
wers, zogi _ ukeTesad, zogic _ naklebad,<br />
magram avtorma raRac iseTi<br />
unda Seqmnas, risi SimSilic aqvs, risi<br />
moTxovnilebac aqvs mkiTxvels. zogs<br />
unda Zalian sasacilo wigni ikiTxos,<br />
zogsac _ Zalian groteskuli, sxvas<br />
_ Zalian filosofiuri... Tu teqsti<br />
Seni gonebis, an gemovnebis adeqvaturi<br />
ar aris _ ar waikiTxav, xom SesaZloa,<br />
araadeqvaturi iyos, viRac geniosi<br />
mwerali gamoCndes _ mas Tavisi mki-<br />
Txveli eyoleba. mTavaria gaCndes rac<br />
SeiZleba meti `damTrevi” teqsti. meti<br />
da meti aRmoCena gvWirdeba. <strong>proza</strong> aRmoCenebis<br />
gareSe araferia, is yoveldRiur,<br />
dabalxarisxian mwerlobad<br />
rCeba. dRes Zalian popularulia romani<br />
`mglebi”, am wigns bevri mkiTxveli<br />
hyavs. xSirad saubroben mis `saeWvo<br />
mxatvrul Rirebulebaze”, avtoris<br />
`dabal gemovnebaze”. SesaZloa asec<br />
iyos, magram maSin damide bevri axali,<br />
cincxali, Tanadrouli da Zalian<br />
saintereso romani da vnaxoT... marTalia,<br />
gvyavs klasikosi avtorebi,<br />
romelTac Tavisi saukeTesi nawarmoebebi<br />
60-70-ian wlebSi daweres, zogier-<br />
Ti dResac kargad iyideba, magram am-<br />
Jamad Tanamedrove avtorebze vsaubrob.<br />
modi, imaze Sors gadaxtiT, vidre<br />
sakuTari resursi gaZlevT saSualebas.<br />
modi sicarieleSi an ufskrulze<br />
gadaxtoma sinjeT, sakuTar Tavs gadaaxtiT.<br />
Tu Semoqmedi sakuTar Tavs ar<br />
gadaaxta...<br />
problemaa isic, rom Cven wignis ki-<br />
Txvis Cveva davkargeT. rogor unda<br />
miaCvio adamiani kiTxvas _avtorma<br />
mas maqsimalurad kargi teqsti unda<br />
miawodos, gamomcemelma maqsimalurad<br />
kargi gamocema... am sferoSi yvelaferi<br />
erTmaneTs ebmis, gadajaWvulia.<br />
_ wignis klubic Tqvens gamomcemlobasTan<br />
rom CamoayalibeT, albaT<br />
am jaWvis Semadgeneli rgolia...<br />
_ klubi wels, Tbilisis wignis festivalis<br />
dReebSi Seiqmna. Zalian bevri<br />
adamiania gawevrianebuli. klubis wevrebi<br />
Cvens gamocemebze ocprocentiani<br />
fasdaklebiT sargebloben. sawevro<br />
gadasaxadi simboluria _ weliwadSi<br />
aTi lari. wignebze winaswari xelmowerebic<br />
gvaqvs. axal gamocemebs<br />
pirvel rigSi maT vugzavniT...
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