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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />

eqskluzivi<br />

sosos<br />

colis<br />

gamodis samSabaTobiT N8 8 (185) 7.03<br />

03.201<br />

.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />

naTesavebi<br />

gv.<br />

gv. 11<br />

giorgi yaramanaSvili: rusTavi 2-is<br />

gayidva SeuZlebelia!!!<br />

gv. 2<br />

arasaparlamento<br />

partiebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi<br />

`rusTavi 2~-is<br />

saqmes afaseben!<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 gv. 4<br />

w.<br />

ras niSnavs<br />

strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetileba?!<br />

diplomatiis<br />

dauwereli kanoni:<br />

sanam SeiZleba<br />

miniSnebebiT laparaki,<br />

manamde aqcentebi ar<br />

aris mkveTri!<br />

gv. 6 gv. 8<br />

1


eliso kilaZe<br />

599 17 12 12<br />

marTalia, „qarTuli ocneba”<br />

karga xnis ganmavlobaSi gvimtkicebda, rom „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

saqme or kerZo subieqts Soris sasamarTlo dava iyo, magram,<br />

yvelasTvis moulodnelad, strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />

sasamarTloSi mxared swored saxelmwifo gamodis.<br />

8 marts strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is saCivris<br />

ganxilvas iwyebs, manamde ki,<br />

sruliad uprecedento aqtiT,<br />

uzanaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba SeaCera.<br />

meore dRes ki aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />

departamentis angariSSi,<br />

bolo wlebis ganmavlobaSi pirvelad,<br />

yofili premier-ministris,<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis persona<br />

da sasamarTlo sistemaze misi<br />

gavlenebi axsenes. es imas niSnavs,<br />

rom eqspremierma dasavle-<br />

Tis darwmuneba ver SeZlo, rom<br />

is araformalurad marTavs saxelmwifo<br />

institutebs da am angariSis<br />

mere ivaniSvilis xseneba<br />

kidev ufro aqtualuri gaxdeba.<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg<br />

brZola gadamwyvet fazaSi Sedis.<br />

saqarTveloSi imyofeba kompaniis<br />

damfuZnebeli, giorgi<br />

yaramanaSvili.<br />

ra SesTavaza levan da gior-<br />

gi yaramanaSvilebs 2012 wels<br />

biZina ivaniSvilma? apirebs Tu<br />

ara „rusTavi 2"-is gayidvas da<br />

ereva Tu ara televiziis saqmi-<br />

anobaSi mixeil saakaSvili?<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

giorgi<br />

yaramanaSvili:<br />

`rusTavi 2-is<br />

gayidva<br />

SeuZlebelia!~<br />

„qronika+”-is eqskluzi-<br />

uri interviu giorgi yaraman<br />

anaSvilTan:<br />

aSvilTan:<br />

_ batono giorgi<br />

orgi, , gmadlobT,<br />

rom interviuze damTanxmdiT.<br />

iSviaTad CanxarT mediaSi, in-<br />

terviuebi ar giyvarT?<br />

_ me var biznesmeni, ar var<br />

sajaro piri, ar var politikosi,<br />

iSviaTad vCndebi kamerebTan<br />

da mirCevnia, Cemi saqme ase vake-<br />

To, samomavlodac ase vapireb...<br />

_ rodis gadawyviteT „ru-<br />

sTavi 2"-is Sesyidva da icodiT<br />

Tu ara, rom qibar xalvaSs raime<br />

pretenziebi hqonda televi-<br />

ziasTan mimarTebiT?<br />

_ kompaniis yidvis survili<br />

Cems Zmas gauCnda. pirvel rigSi,<br />

imitom, rom manamdec iyo telesakomunikacio<br />

biznesSi, ramdenime<br />

kompaniaSi wilebs flobda<br />

biZina ivaniSvili<br />

da miiCnevda, rom aseTi msxvili<br />

aqtivi, rogoric aris „rusTavi<br />

2", avtomaturad moaxdenda misi<br />

kapitalizaciis zrdas.<br />

me es survili ki ara, erTgvari,<br />

aucileblobis gancda gamiCnda<br />

2012 wlis saparlamento<br />

arCevnebis Semdeg, roca cxadi<br />

gaxda, rom ivaniSvilis xelisufleba<br />

male daiwyebda Setevas<br />

„rusTavi 2"-ze. „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

wilis SeZena, erTis mxriv, riskebis<br />

gayofa iyo, meorec _ kompaniis<br />

gadarCenis mcdeloba, radgan<br />

Cemi Zma, levani, fizikurad<br />

ver moaxerxebda kompaniis mar-<br />

Tvas (mas Zalian bevri sxva biznesinteresi<br />

hqonda da „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is misaxedad piradi dro<br />

da resursi naklebad rCeboda).<br />

swored amitom, SevTanxmdiT,<br />

rom am aqtivs me vmarTavdi. ase<br />

gavxdi am kompaniis mflobeli.<br />

cxadia, im momentisTvis samarTlebrivi<br />

sakiTxebi da riskebi<br />

bevrjer iyo Semowmebuli da<br />

gadamowmebuli. araviTari dava<br />

am kompaniis wilebTan da mflobelobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT ar<br />

arsebobda, maT Soris, qibar<br />

xalvaSis mxridan. mas rom raime<br />

pretenzia hqonoda, aucileblad<br />

mecodineboda, Tundac imitom,<br />

rom im periodSi masTan<br />

megobruli urTierToba makav-<br />

Sirebda. nebismier momentSi See-<br />

Zlo eTqva, _ giorgi, Cemia (an<br />

vdaob) da gaiTvaliswine, _ rac<br />

ar gaukeTebia martivi mizezis<br />

gamo: is araa am sarCelis realuri<br />

avtori da am sarCelis<br />

ukan xelisufleba dgas, rac yvela<br />

keTilsindisieri adamianisTvis<br />

isedac cxadia.<br />

_ davazustoT: roca Tqven<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli gax-<br />

diT, qibar xalvaSis mxridan raime<br />

tipis komunikacia ar yofi-<br />

la?<br />

_ ara, ar yofila, man zustad<br />

icoda, rom nebismier dros See-<br />

Zlo CemTan dakavSireba. Cven komunikacia<br />

maSin gvqonda, rodesac<br />

is „rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli<br />

iyo, mas Semdegac, rodesac<br />

is aRar iyo „rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli.<br />

mas araviTari pretenzia<br />

arasdros ar gamouTqvams. metic,<br />

Cemma megobarma axla Semaxsena:<br />

roca Cven erTad kievSi SevxvdiT<br />

qibars da mis TanamSromels,<br />

maSin piriqiT, me vkiTxe<br />

„rusTavi 2"-ze. araTu araviTari<br />

pretenzia ar hqonda, televizias<br />

uyurebda, rogorc moSorebul<br />

tvirTs!<br />

_ romeli weli iyo, roca<br />

qibar xalvaSs kievSi SexvdiT?<br />

_ zustad maxsovs, es Sexvedra<br />

Sedga irakli oqruaSvilis<br />

opoziciaSi wasvlamde, 2007<br />

wlis aqciebamde. kargad maxsovs,<br />

qibar xalvaSs vkiTxe, _ ras apirebs<br />

irakli-meTqi? da miTxra,<br />

_ partias akeTebso...<br />

_ batono giorgi, raki irak-<br />

li oqruaSvili axseneT, is iyo<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is araformaluri<br />

mmarTveli. faqtia, televizie-<br />

bis mflobelebi imis mixedviT<br />

icvlebodnen, vis ra gavlena<br />

hqonda im momentisTvis prezi-<br />

dent saakaSvilis karze.<br />

_ amaze marTla gulwrfelad<br />

ver gipasuxebT, imitom, rom ar<br />

vakvirdebodi, ar vcxovrobdi<br />

saqarTveloSi da Zalian iSviaTad<br />

Camovdiodi, sul ramdenime<br />

dRiT da, ZiriTadad, zafxulSi,<br />

baTumSi, ojaxTan erTad dasasveneblad.<br />

saerTod ar vadevnebdi<br />

Tvalyurs mflobelebis sakiTxs.<br />

ukana ricxviT rom gadavxedoT<br />

da amis analizi daviwyoT,<br />

SeiZleba, garkveuli kanonzomiereba<br />

vipovoT kidec, magram<br />

amas axla aranairi mniSvneloba<br />

aRar aqvs. me TviTon ganaTlebiT<br />

iuristi var, mainteresebda<br />

ara politikuri mxare, aramed<br />

is, rom garigeba kanonieri<br />

yofiliyo. Cems Zmas kompaniis<br />

ekonomikuri analizic hqonda<br />

gakeTebuli da amis mere, TavisTavad,<br />

iuridiulad sworad,<br />

yovelgvari problemis gareSe<br />

SeviZineT es wili.<br />

_ mixeil saakaSvils didi<br />

xania, icnobT?<br />

_ ki, miSa Cemi axlo megobaria...<br />

_ gulwrfelad mipasuxeT:<br />

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mas Semdeg, rac televiziis<br />

mflobeli gaxdiT, mixeil saakaSvili<br />

ereoda Tu ara telekompaniis<br />

saredaqcio politikaSi<br />

da hqonda Tu ara mcdelobebi,<br />

rom raime tipis gavlena<br />

moexdina, Tundac, televizi-<br />

is politikur mimarTulebaze?<br />

_ rom vTqva, rom televiziaze<br />

ar vlaparakobdiT, es ar iqneboda<br />

marTali, magram rom vTqva,<br />

rom gavlena hqonda, esec ar<br />

iqneboda swori. mesmis, rom bevri<br />

ar daijerebs, magram vinc me<br />

kargad micnobs, vinc icis Cemi<br />

da miSas urTierToba, saerTod<br />

ar gauWirdeba amis dajereba.<br />

Cveni urTierToba yovelTvis<br />

efuZneboda megobrobas da kidev<br />

ufro metad, _ Tanamoazreobas.<br />

am WrilSi iyo Cveni nebismieri<br />

saubaric, maT Soris, televiziaze.<br />

Cems pirovnebas da<br />

Cvens megobrul urTierTobasac<br />

rom Tavi gavaneboT, is kompaniaze<br />

gavlenas ver iqoniebda,<br />

Tundac imitom, rom es televizia<br />

ar finansdeboda aravis mier<br />

mas Semdeg, rac me „rusTavi 2"-<br />

is mflobeli gavxdi. kompanias,<br />

garda imisa, rom yvelaze gavleniani<br />

televizia iyo, yovelTvis<br />

vuyurebdi, rogorc bizness. biznesis<br />

garantia iyo misi damoukidebloba,<br />

mkafio interesi<br />

mqonda, rom es telekompania<br />

yofiliyo damoukidebeli, maSin<br />

is iqneboda avtomaturad kritikuli,<br />

avtomaturad reitinguli<br />

da avtomaturad momgebiani,<br />

rasac me mivaRwie kidec.<br />

_ anu imas meubnebiT, rom<br />

„rusTavi 2" momgebiani teleko-<br />

mpaniaa da Savi fulis konver-<br />

tebiT darigeba, rogorc sxva<br />

dros iyo, Tqven aRar dagWirve-<br />

biaT?<br />

_ aranairi Savi fuli da konvertebi.<br />

es xom Zalian advili<br />

gadasamowmebelia. madloba RmerTs,<br />

saqarTveloSi sagadasaxado<br />

sistema im donemde mivida,<br />

rodesac yvelaferi kontroldeba<br />

da yvelaferi gaxsnilia.<br />

faqtobrivad, nebismier dainteresebul<br />

pirs, visac Sesabamisi<br />

codna aqvs, amis gadamowmeba<br />

Zalian martivad SeuZlia, imitom,<br />

rom es ar aris raRac daxuruli<br />

informacia.<br />

_ batono giorgi, roca 2012<br />

wels xelisufleba Seicvala da<br />

„qarTuli ocneba” movida saTaveSi,<br />

ar gqoniaT SemoTavazeba,<br />

rom telekompania dageT-<br />

moT, an gageyidaT?<br />

_ ki, iyo amaze saubari, Cemma<br />

Zmam pirvel interviuSi ilaparaka<br />

kidec, rom iyo aseTi SemoTavazeba,<br />

rom es televizia sab-<br />

WosTvis gveCuqebina, razec levanma,<br />

ra Tqma unda, uari uTxra.<br />

ratom unda vaCuqoT viRacas<br />

raRaca, CvenTvis es sruliad<br />

gaurkvevelia...<br />

_ Tu saidumlo ar aris, vis-<br />

gan iyo SemoTavazeba?<br />

_ biZina ivaniSvilis uaxloesi<br />

garemocvidan.<br />

_ vin Sedioda im sabWoSi,<br />

romlisTvisac televiziis Cu-<br />

qebas ivaniSvili iTxovda?<br />

_ sabWos Semadgenloba ar<br />

vici... es rom raRac patara televizia<br />

yofiliyo, aravin arafers<br />

SemogvTavazebda, magram<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is SemTxvevaSi xelisuflebas<br />

konkretuli interesi<br />

hqonda, rom televizia maT<br />

mier kontrolirebadi yofiliyo,<br />

es pirveli dRidanve cxadi<br />

iyo, Canda Tanamdebobis pirebis<br />

sajaro gamosvlebSic, agreTve<br />

minda, yvelas Sevaxseno parlamentSi<br />

specialurad Seqmnili<br />

komisia, romelsac Tina xidaSeli<br />

xelmZRvanelobda da amitomac<br />

iyo es SemoTavazeba. am<br />

struqturas xumrobiT Cven<br />

„brZenTa sabWo” SevarqviT.<br />

_ xidaSeli gagaxsendaT da<br />

yofilma Tavdacvis ministrma<br />

am dReebSic gaakeTa gancxadeba,<br />

rom es aris or kerZo sub-<br />

ieqts Soris dava da is ar<br />

apirebs, yaramanaSvilebis qon-<br />

ebaze idardos...<br />

_ gulaxdilad getyviT, zogadad,<br />

Tina xidaSelis principebze<br />

ar var maRali warmodgenis,<br />

magram inteleqtze pretenziis<br />

mqone adamiani, Cemi azriT, ar<br />

unda laparakobdes, rom es aris<br />

or subieqts Soris dava, ker-<br />

Zod, Cemsa da qibars Soris dava,<br />

imitom, rom me da qibars aravi-<br />

Tari molaparakeba ar gvqonia,<br />

Cven ar gvqonia araviTari SeTanxmeba,<br />

Cven aranair dokumentze<br />

xeli ar mogviweria, Cven am<br />

Temaze ar gvilaparakia da sadavo<br />

Tema Cven Soris ar arsebobs.<br />

Cemsa da qibars Soris aTi mflobeli<br />

iyo, Tu ar meSleba...<br />

inteleqtis mqone adamiani ar<br />

unda laparakobdes, rom es Sei-<br />

Zleba iyos or subieqts Soris<br />

dava, imitom, rom am or subieqts<br />

araferi saerTo erTmaneT-<br />

Tan ar hqonia da davis saganic<br />

maTi molaparakeba unda yofil-<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

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Tina xidaSeli<br />

iyo, raRac SeTanxmeba mainc.<br />

qibar xalvaSs SeeZlo edava imas-<br />

Tan, visac mihyida. masTan, ratomRac,<br />

pretenzia ar aqvs da<br />

pirdapir CemTan daobs, romel<br />

logikas eqvemdebareba?<br />

_ mas Semdeg, rac „brZenTa<br />

sabWos” „rusTavi 2"-is Cuqeba-<br />

ze uari uTxariT, daiwyo Tu<br />

ara finansuri wnexi, Tu xe-<br />

lisufleba, ubralod, gayuCda<br />

da daeloda, rodis eqneboda<br />

saSualeba, rom qibaris meSveo-<br />

biT sasamarTlo dava daewyo?<br />

_ ver vityvi, rom gayuCda,<br />

magram imasac gulaxdilad geubnebiT,<br />

rom Zalian seriozuli<br />

aqtivoba maTi mxridan ar yofila.<br />

axla, rogorc Cans, emzadebodnen.<br />

kuluarulad ramdenjerme<br />

gamigia qibaris saxeli,<br />

magram verafriT davijerebdi,<br />

rom qibari amas daTanxmdeboda.<br />

saerTod, Tu am televiziis warsulTan<br />

dakavSirebiT raRac dava<br />

SeiZleboda, albaT, qibari<br />

iyo yvelaze cudi da warumatebeli<br />

arCevani. ratomRac, am xelisuflebam<br />

zustad es adamiani<br />

airCia.<br />

_ batono giorgi, iyo Tu ara<br />

amis winapiroba is, rom qibar<br />

xalvaSis da Seiyvanes „qarTu-<br />

li ocnebis” saparlamento sia-<br />

Si, kavSirs xedavT?<br />

_ amaze me verafers vityvi.<br />

SeiZleba, iyo, SeiZleba _ ara...<br />

_ elodiT Tu ara uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos aseT gadawyvet-<br />

ilebas, rom bolo instanciis<br />

sasamarTlo<br />

saqarTveloSi<br />

„rusTavi 2"-s samarTliani sasa-<br />

marTlos Sanss mouspobda?<br />

qibar xalvaSi<br />

_ ar velodi...<br />

_ strasburgis sasamarTlom<br />

marTlac uprecedento gadaw-<br />

yvetileba miiRo, imitom, rom<br />

mediasTan dakavSirebiT aseTi<br />

muxli jer ar gamouyenebia da<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadaw-<br />

yvetilebis moqmedeba SeaCera.<br />

elodebiT imas, rom stras-<br />

burgSi mainc SeZlebT Tqveni<br />

simarTlis damtkicebas da mo-<br />

ugebT xelisuflebas am brZo-<br />

las, romelsac damoukidebeli<br />

mediisTvis brZola hqvia?..<br />

_ absoluturad darwmunebuli<br />

var...<br />

_ aucileblad unda gkiTx-<br />

oT: mas Semdeg, rac saqarTve-<br />

loSi CamoxvediT da saqarTv-<br />

eloSi Camosvlamdec, periodu-<br />

lad vrceldeboda xmebi, rom<br />

Tqven ukve kulisebSi SeuTanxm-<br />

diT biZina ivaniSvils da te-<br />

levizias TmobT. axla meubnebiT,<br />

rom strasburgSi bolom-<br />

de brZolas apirebT.<br />

_ ar geTanxmebiT, axla ar<br />

geubnebiT, es naTqvami maqvs yvela<br />

interviuSi... msgavsi araferi<br />

yofila da arasdros ganmixilavs.<br />

es iqneboda rogorc „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is koleqtivis, aseve mTlianad<br />

qarTuli sazogadoebis<br />

Ralati, rasac me da Cemi Zma<br />

arasdros vikadrebT!<br />

_ me pirvelad vwer TqvenTan<br />

intervius, amitom, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

isev unda gkiTxoT: biznes-<br />

meni biZina ivaniSvili biznesmen<br />

giorgi yaramanaSvils kulisebSi<br />

garigebas ar gTavazobdaT?<br />

_ amazec sajarod maqvs Cemi<br />

pozicia dafiqsirebuli... marTalia,<br />

me var biznesmeni, „rusTavi<br />

2"-s vuyurebdi, rogorc bizness,<br />

metic, pretenzia maqvs imaze,<br />

rom me vaqcie saqarTveloSi<br />

televizia momgebian biznesad<br />

da marTlac damoukideblad, am<br />

SemTxvevaSi es erTi meoris gareSe<br />

ar arsebobs, Zalian mibmulia.<br />

raRac mokle periodis mere<br />

gadavwyvite am biznesis gayidva.<br />

es sajarodac miTqvams, es maSin<br />

arxis menejmentmac icoda, arasdros<br />

damimalavs. amas maSin gamoxmaureba<br />

ar mohyolia da mas<br />

mere araviTari SemoTavazeba ar<br />

yofila, Tumca gulaxdilad getyviT,<br />

bolo peroidSi, brZola<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg akrZaluli<br />

xerxebiT mimdinareobda.<br />

am zewolebis fonze kompaniis<br />

gayidva sruliad warmoudgenlad<br />

mimaCnda. axlac mimaCnia,<br />

rom „rusTavi 2"-is gayidva Seu-<br />

Zlebelia, imitom, rom aq ukve<br />

sxva valdebulebebia, sxva valdebulebebia<br />

qveynis winaSe, sxva<br />

valdebulebebia Cveni Tavdadebuli<br />

Jurnalistebis winaSe,<br />

romelTa yoveldRiuri saqmianoba<br />

gmirobis tolfasia. me<br />

vagrZeleb brZolas da es brZola<br />

bolomdea misayvani.<br />

mflobelebi varT damoukidebeli<br />

arxis, saredaqcio politikis<br />

damoukidebloba fundamentia,<br />

gayidviT es kompania ar iyideba!!!<br />

Cemi mxridan es sruliad<br />

calsaxa da mkafio gancxadebaa.<br />

_ batono giorgi, gulaxdi-<br />

lad miTxariT, CareulxarT Tu<br />

ara saredaqcio politikaSi,<br />

giTqvamT Tu ara Jurnalisteb-<br />

isTvis an menejmentisTvis, rom<br />

raime tipis siuJeti unda<br />

moamzadon, an momzadebuli si-<br />

uJeti unda amoiRon?<br />

_ jer erTi, me imdenad apolitikuri<br />

adamiani var, ramdenic<br />

saqarTveloSi SeiZleba cota<br />

iyos. amas xels uwyobs isic,<br />

rom, faqtobrivad, ar vcxovrob<br />

saqarTveloSi da ar vicnobdi<br />

qarTuli politikis samzareulos.<br />

2012 wlis arCevnebamde<br />

oTxi Tve saerTod ar CamirTavs<br />

televizori. erTi sityviT, arc<br />

Carevis survili gamCenia odesme<br />

da, romc gamCenoda, amas verasdros<br />

gavakeTebdi am subieqturi<br />

distanciisa da bevri ramis<br />

arcodnis gamo...<br />

_ strasburgSi dava, albaT,<br />

xangrZlivi iqneba, kompaniis<br />

qonebas yadaRa adevs. ramdenad<br />

realuria „rusTavi 2"-is fin-<br />

ansuri gakotreba?<br />

_ televizia bolo ori welia,<br />

saSineli presis qveS imyofeba,<br />

rac ar SeiZleboda ar asaxuliyo<br />

mis finansur mdgomareobazec,<br />

ra Tqma unda... yvela xedavs, rom<br />

xelisufleba principulad ar<br />

xsnis yadaRas da televizias<br />

normaluri funqcionirebis sa-<br />

Sualebas ar aZlevs, Tundac finansurad.<br />

ra Tqma unda, mas axr-<br />

Cobs da gudavs. swored amitom<br />

Camovedi saqarTveloSi, rom<br />

rTul da gadamwyvet momentSi<br />

televiziis koleqtivis, Jurnalistebis<br />

gverdiT viyo, kompania<br />

ar gakotrdes da kompaniis finansuri<br />

marTva Cems Tavze aviRo,<br />

ramdenadac es SesaZlebeli iqneba...<br />

saredaqcio politikaSi Carevas<br />

ar vapireb, yvela Jurnalisti<br />

Tavis saqmianobaSi damoukidebeli<br />

iyo da iqneba.<br />

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aris sakonstitucio sasamarTlo,<br />

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ukve Sesulia, rogorc um-<br />

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2"-isa da Sps saqarTvelos sar-<br />

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viTxovT, praqtikulad,<br />

ukve miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />

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gamotanas. viciT,<br />

rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebam<br />

sruliad miiRo monawileoba<br />

imaSi, rom sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTlos wina Semadgenlobas<br />

gadawyvetileba ver gamoetana,<br />

erTi Ramis ganmavlobaSi<br />

Seecvala yvelaferi...”, _ ganacxada<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is generalurma<br />

direqtorma, nika gvaramiam.<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebisa da zogadad,<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is irgvliv ganvi-<br />

Tarebuli movlenebis Sesaxeb<br />

„qronika+” arasaparlamento partiebis<br />

warmomadgenlebs esaubra.<br />

Tamar kekenaZe<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

Tamar kekenaZe _ „Tavisufa-<br />

li demokratebi”:<br />

_ „rusTavi 2"-is mimarT gamotanili<br />

gadawyvetileba biZina<br />

ivaniSvilisa da „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

mxridan gadadgmuli mizanmimarTuli<br />

nabijia, rac realurad<br />

Zalin did zians ayenebs<br />

qveynis natosa da evrokav-<br />

SirSi integraciis process.<br />

droc Zalian cinikurad iyo<br />

SerCeuli, es moxda meore dRes,<br />

rac vizaliberalizacias moewera<br />

xeli da erTi dRiT adre,<br />

sanam saqarTveloSi natos<br />

samxedro komiteti Camovidoda.<br />

biZina ivaniSvilsa da „qarTul<br />

ocnebas” egona, rom am TemebiT<br />

gadafaravdnen „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

sakiTxs da imis iluzias Seqmnidnen,<br />

rom saqarTveloSi yvelaferi<br />

kargad aris demokratiuli<br />

ganviTarebis kuTxiT da<br />

saerTaSoriso sazogadoebasac<br />

am iluzias Seuqmnidnen. ra Tqma<br />

unda, is myisieri reaqcia, rac<br />

am yvelafers Cveni saerTaSoriso<br />

partniorebisgan mohyva,<br />

swori nabiji iyo da aman kidev<br />

erTxel daanaxa TiToeul Cvengans,<br />

rom es ar aris or kerZo<br />

subieqts Soris dava da es iyo<br />

xelisuflebis mxridan gadadgmuli<br />

nabiji, rac, realurad,<br />

biZina ivaniSvilsa da „qarTul<br />

ocnebas” emsaxureba. mas ar<br />

surs, rom qveyanaSi kritikuli<br />

media arsebobdes da alternatiuli<br />

mosazreba ismodes. rac<br />

mTavaria, am yvelaferma kidev<br />

erTxel gvaCvena, rom biZina ivaniSvili<br />

sasamarTlo sistemis<br />

yvela dones mTlianad akontrolebs.<br />

ra Tqma unda, strasburgis<br />

gadawyvetileba erTaderTi<br />

gamosavali iyo am etapisTvis,<br />

_ Cveni evropeli megobrebi,<br />

samwuxarod, ufro mets<br />

zrunaven Cveni qveynis ganviTarebaze<br />

da Cvens evroatlantikur<br />

arCevanze, vidre saqarTvelos<br />

mTavroba. es SesaZlebloba<br />

kidev erTxel mogvcems imis<br />

saSualebas, rom ufro meti<br />

komunikacia iyos Cvens saerTa-<br />

Soriso partniorebTan. imedi<br />

maqvs da darwmunebuli var, rom<br />

8 marts strasburgis sasamarT-<br />

arasaparlamento<br />

partiebis<br />

warmomadgenlebi<br />

`rusTavi 2~-is<br />

saqmes afaseben!<br />

dava or kerZo subieqts Soris,<br />

Tu biZina ivaniSvils survili<br />

_ qveyanaSi alternatiuli<br />

azri ar ismodes?!<br />

lo SemaCerebel gadawyvetilebas<br />

gamoitans da sanam bolomde<br />

ar daasrulebs am sakiTxze<br />

muSaobas, manamde aRsrulebas<br />

SeaCerebs.<br />

soso SatberaSvili _ „me-<br />

marcxene aliansi”:<br />

_ rodesac sami instanciis<br />

sasamarTlo Sens warTmeul qonebaze<br />

uflebas moganiWebs, is,<br />

ra Tqma unda, legitimuria da<br />

kidev erTi ufleba aqvT sami<br />

dRis winandel mflobelebs _<br />

Zmeb yaramaniSvilebs, evropis<br />

sasamarTloSi gaasaCivron. samagierod,<br />

qarTveli xalxis<br />

Tavze politikuri ubedureba<br />

da tragedia datrialda.<br />

evropis sasamarTlom<br />

da, zogadad,<br />

evropam daamtkica,<br />

rom saqarTvelo<br />

ar aris damoukidebeli<br />

saxelmwifo.<br />

im<br />

dros, rodesac<br />

saqarTvelodan<br />

evropis<br />

sasamarTloSi<br />

wasuli uamravi saqme<br />

Tarozea Semodebuli da rigs<br />

elodeba, ramdenime saaTSi mosamarTle<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is araTu<br />

sarCels ixilavs, aramed absurdul<br />

gancxadebas akeTebs, rom<br />

soso SatberaSvili<br />

Tu es ar dakmayofildeba, Tbilisis<br />

quCebSi xalxi gamovardeba<br />

da TiTqos velurebi viyoT,<br />

milew-molewavs yvelafers. ramdenime<br />

saaTSi Cerdeba saqar-<br />

Tvelos umaRlesi organos _<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos didi<br />

palatis gadawyvetileba da<br />

xdeba imis demonstrireba, rom<br />

saqarTvelo aris ara damoukidebeli<br />

saxelmwifo, aramed<br />

mTlianad damokidebulia evropisa<br />

da amerikis Cinosnebze.<br />

es aris didi ubedureba da<br />

rac Seexeba Sedegs: amis Semdeg<br />

rusuli propaganda ga-<br />

Zlierdeba, prorusulad ganwyobili<br />

saqarTvelos mosaxleoba<br />

gaZlierdeba<br />

da SesaZloa, saqarTvelos<br />

mosaxleobis<br />

didma nawilma, Tu<br />

momavalSic ase gagrZelda,<br />

„evrazi-<br />

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ul kavSirSi” Sesvla moindomos,<br />

rogorc es Cvenma mezoblebma<br />

_ somxeTma da azerbaijanma<br />

gaakeTes.<br />

konstantine gamsaxurdia _<br />

„Tavisufleba”:<br />

_ erTi SexedviT, damoukidebeli<br />

sasamarTlos ukan, SeuiaraRebeli<br />

TvaliT, aSkarad igrZnoba<br />

xelisuflebis maRali<br />

rangis warmomadgenelTa moZraobebi.<br />

es ukve Zalian cud zegavlenas<br />

iqoniebs im gagebiT, rom<br />

axlaxan mocemuli vizaliberalizaciis<br />

Semdeg sakmao Crdils<br />

miayenebs Cvens urTierTobas.<br />

vgulisxmob imas, rom vizaliberalizacia<br />

namdvilad wingadadgmuli<br />

nabiji iyo, magram<br />

am sasamarTlo process rom<br />

amisTvis win gaeswro, marTla<br />

SesaZlebelia, CvenTvis vizaliberalizaciis<br />

mocema gaeWianurebina.<br />

rac Seexeba TviTon „rusTavi<br />

2"-is sakiTxs, erTi SexedviT,<br />

fasadurad, es marTlac<br />

komerciuli davaa, magram Tvi-<br />

Ton sasamarTlos qceva da saqmis<br />

mimaT damokidebuleba ar<br />

aris adekvaturi, ramdenadac<br />

TiTqos saerTod ar iTvaliswinebs<br />

im garemoebas, rom ma-<br />

Ralreitinguli saqmea, maRalreitingul<br />

televiziasTan gvaqvs<br />

saqme, rasac Zalian didi da<br />

maRali sazogadoebrivi mniSvneloba<br />

aqvs mayureblidan da<br />

mTeli sazogadoebidan gamomdinare.<br />

amitom amis aseT daxurul<br />

reJimSi ganxilva, sadac<br />

cxra mosamarTle erT poziciaze<br />

dgeba, aSkara eWvebs iwvevs,<br />

rom es yvelaferi ar aris<br />

is, rac erTi SexedviT Cans _<br />

Cveulebrivi rigiTi komerciuli<br />

dava, sadac erTi mflobeli<br />

edaveba meores. jer TviTon<br />

mflobelTa sakiTxic Zalian<br />

rTulia, radgan aq ar unda iyos<br />

laparaki mxolod qibar xalvaSze,<br />

aq aris igive erosi kiwmariSvilis<br />

ojaxi, romelic<br />

saqmeSi ar Cans, magram imas ar<br />

niSnavs, rom is ar aris, amitomac<br />

sakiTxis garkveva _ vin aris<br />

kanonieri mflobeli, savsebiT<br />

obieqturad rom mivudgeT, arc<br />

ise martivia. es yvelaferi bevrad<br />

damajerebeli iqneboda,<br />

Tuki mxareebs SesaZleblobas<br />

miscemdnen, monawileoba mieRoT<br />

mtkicebis standartSi.<br />

konstantine gamsaxurdia<br />

yvela sasamarTlos aqvs Tavisi<br />

SejibrebiToba da amis gareSe<br />

Catardes aseTi mniSvnelovani<br />

procesi, ar SeiZleba. praqtikulad,<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is mxares<br />

amis saSualeba ar misces, sasamarTlo<br />

procesebidan gaaZeves,<br />

uzenaes sasamarTloSi xom mTlad<br />

gamoricxuli iyo raimes<br />

mtkiceba, radgan daxuruli<br />

procesi mimdinareobda. kidev<br />

vimeoreb, radgan procesi daxurul<br />

reJimSi Catarda, aravi-<br />

Tar mtkicebis standartze ar<br />

SeiZleba iyos laparaki.<br />

dimitri lorTqifaniZe _<br />

„demokratiuli moZraoba _ er-<br />

Tiani saqarTvelo”:<br />

_ Tvali gavusworoT simar-<br />

Tles, faqtia, rom evropis sab-<br />

Wos istoriaSi msgavsi tipis gadawyvetileba<br />

ar gamoutania<br />

strasburgis adamianis uflebebis<br />

dacvis sasamarTlos ganCinebis<br />

doneze saproceso iZulebiTi<br />

RonisZiebis saxiT, rodesac<br />

sakiTxi exeba saCivris uzrunvelyofis<br />

RonisZiebas. anu<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlos enaze<br />

rom vTqvaT, es aris droebiTi<br />

RonisZieba, gamoyenebuli<br />

sasamarTlos mier, sanam saqmes<br />

warmoebaSi miiRebs da daiqvemdebarebs.<br />

Tumca 8 martamde es<br />

ganCineba moqmedebs erTaderTi<br />

pirobiT, rom SemdgomSi ukve<br />

palatam imsjelos RonisZiebis<br />

gagrZelebis mizanSewonilobaze.<br />

es imas niSnavs, rom, rogorc<br />

Cans, „rusTavi 2" garkveuli politikuri<br />

ZalebisTvis, romlebic<br />

gansazRvraven aRmosavleT<br />

evropisa da evrokavSiris<br />

potenciuri wevrobis saxelmwifoebisTvis<br />

dRis wesrigs, „rusTavi<br />

2" gansakuTrebuli mniSvnelovis<br />

obieqti aRmoCnda,<br />

rogorc rupori politikurideologiuri<br />

trendisa. aqcentic<br />

swored keTdeba ara imdenad<br />

sakuTrebis uflebis xelyofaze,<br />

aramed ramdenadac gamoxatvis<br />

uflebis SezRudvis<br />

prevenciaze da miCneulia, rom<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is saredaqcio politikis<br />

SezRudviTa da gauqmebiT,<br />

gansakuTrebuli da gamousworebeli<br />

ziani adgeba qveyanaSi<br />

demokratiis ganviTarebas.<br />

me piradad, rogorc politikosi<br />

da „demokratiuli<br />

moZraobis” wevri,<br />

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miviCnev, rom „rusTavi 2" aris<br />

„nacionaluri moZraobis” organuli<br />

nawili da calke „rusTavi<br />

2" romelime monaTesave<br />

politikuri Zalis gareSe ar<br />

ganixileba dasavleTisTvis,<br />

rogorc saintereso da saWiro<br />

obieqti. Cemi azriT, procesi<br />

namdvilad uprecedento da<br />

sainteresoa. vfiqrob, am procesSi<br />

politikurma partiebma<br />

im kuTxiT unda miviRoT monawileoba,<br />

rom kvaldakval mivdioT<br />

politikur nabijebs. es<br />

aris Zalian saintereso precedenti<br />

imisTvis, rom am standartiT<br />

strasburgis sasamar-<br />

Tlom, realurad, garkveuli<br />

riskic gaswia _ formalurad<br />

vambob, es exeba suverenuli<br />

saxelmwifos uzenaesi, saapelacio<br />

da pirveli instanciis<br />

sasamarTlos mier, jamSi, 13 mosamarTlis<br />

mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />

kiTxvis niSnis qveS<br />

dayenebas. miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlo ar<br />

aris meoTxe instancia, amave<br />

dros, suverenuli saxelmwifos<br />

Sida saqmeSi Carevis precedentia.<br />

es sakiTxi politikurad<br />

Zalian mniSvnelovani gasarCevia.<br />

vfiqrob, rom amaze araer-<br />

Ti dRisa da kviris ganmavlobaSi<br />

mogviwevs mrgval magidasTan<br />

diskusia.<br />

Tamaz meWiauri _ „erTiani<br />

saqarTvelosTvis”:<br />

_ zogadad, presis Tavisuflebis<br />

momxre var, Tumca saqarTveloSi<br />

absoluturad Tavisufali<br />

media, praqtikulad, ar<br />

arsebobs. amas, ZiriTadad, televiziebze<br />

vambob. es dadasturda,<br />

Tundac, arCevnebis dros,<br />

rodesac saxelisuflebo Tu<br />

opoziciuri televiziebi Cven-<br />

Tvis daxuruli iyo. magaliTad,<br />

im ZalebisTvis, romlebic skeptikurad<br />

uyurebdnen natosac,<br />

arc meore mxareze iWridnen<br />

venebs da erovnul niadagze<br />

iyvnen. rogorc Cans, erovnuli<br />

aravis ainteresebs. rac Seexeba<br />

konkretulad am davas, ra Tqma<br />

unda, momxre var, rom samar-<br />

Tliani gadawyvetileba miiRon,<br />

magram, Cemi azriT, absoluturad<br />

samarTliani arc erT Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi ar iqneba, radgan axali<br />

adamianebi Cndebian, romelTac<br />

am televiziaze pretenzia<br />

aqvT, erTma meores waarTva,<br />

dimitri lorTqifaniZe<br />

meorem _ mesames, mesamem _ meo-<br />

Txes da a. S. am dros yvelas aviwydeba,<br />

vin aris am televiziis<br />

mTavari mowile. mTavari mowile<br />

ki gaxlavT xalxi, sazogadoeba,<br />

romlis kuTvnili ramdenime<br />

aTeuli milioni, aranakleb<br />

40 milionis vali, „rusTavi<br />

2"-s Camoewera. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

qibar xalvaSi moigebs<br />

process Tu vinme sxva, yvelam<br />

unda icodes _ es televizia ar<br />

aris mxolod misi da xalxs yovelTvis<br />

SeiZleba hqondes pretenzia<br />

„rusTavi 2"-Tan, imaze,<br />

rom es televizia gaxdes damoukidebeli<br />

da sazogadoebis<br />

interesebis gamtarebeli. faqtobrivad,<br />

sazogadoebrivi televizia<br />

#2, SeiZleba, Sinaarsobrivad,<br />

pirvelic ki, ramdenadac<br />

am televiziaSi yvelaze<br />

meti xalxis fulia Cadebuli,<br />

vidre erTad aRebuli yvela<br />

modave mxarisa, romelsac dRes<br />

pretenzia aqvs mis patronobaze.<br />

Tu xalvaSi sabolood moigebs<br />

sasamarTlos, manac unda<br />

gaiTvaliswinos es da vurCev,<br />

sameurveo sabWos msgavsi organo<br />

Seqmnas, ar gaxdes erTpirovnuli<br />

mmarTveli, am organo-<br />

Si unda Sevidnen sazogadoebis<br />

mxridan ndobiT aRWurvili<br />

pirebi. Tu gadawyvetileba sxva<br />

mxaris sasargeblod gamova, televizias<br />

unda CamoSordnen mo-<br />

Zaladeebi, romelTac Tavisufal<br />

mediasTan aranairi kavSiri<br />

ar aqvT, maTi warsulidan<br />

gamomdinare. am SemTxvevaSic,<br />

televiziis marTvaSic Canacvleba<br />

unda moxdes aseve sazogadoebis<br />

mxridan ndobiT aRWurvili<br />

xalxiT. xolo rac Seexeba<br />

Jurnalistebs, miuxedavad maTi<br />

mxridan, rig SemTxvevebSi, tendenciurobisa,<br />

unda mieceT sa-<br />

Sualeba, rom maTi niWis realizacia<br />

moaxdinon Tavisufal<br />

televiziaSi, romelic Tavisufali<br />

iqneba yovelgvari partiuli<br />

Tu saxelisuflebo zewolisgan.<br />

ar minda, vinmem ise<br />

gaigos, rom, me piradad,<br />

„rusTavi 2" did diskomforts<br />

miqmnis,<br />

magram<br />

Tamaz meWiauri<br />

suleladac nu CamTvlian, rom<br />

Cemi fuliT Cem winaaRmdeg romelime<br />

partiuli interesebis<br />

gasatareblad imauwyeblos. uzarmazari<br />

xelfasi rom aqvs Tundac<br />

televiziis xelmZRvanels,<br />

Tu finansurad cudad hqondaT<br />

saqme da ise uWirdaT, rom biujetidan<br />

aTeulobiT milioni<br />

apaties, maSin ratom iniSnavdnen<br />

amxela xelfasebs?! arc axla<br />

gamovricxav, rom televizia<br />

finansur problemebs ganicdides,<br />

am dros mis xelmZRvanelobas<br />

amxela xelfasebi aqvs!<br />

ase rom, am saqmes calmxrivad<br />

ar vuyureb, aq xdeba spekulacia.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi arc xelisuflebis<br />

madlieri var, saxelisuflebo<br />

arxebzec dablokili<br />

viyavi arCevnebamde bolo ori<br />

Tvis ganmavlobaSi, amaze aravis<br />

protesti ar gamouxatavs. movuwodeb<br />

sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis<br />

axal xelmZRvanelobas,<br />

gaiTvaliswinos da televizia<br />

gaxados im funqciebis matarebeli,<br />

risTvisac aris mowodebuli<br />

da daubrunos sazogadoebas.<br />

vis sakuTrebaSic ar<br />

unda gadavides „rusTavi 2",<br />

kidev vimeoreb, yvela Jurnalists<br />

unda mieces sakuTari ni-<br />

Wis gamovlenis saSualeba.<br />

„rusTavi 2"-ze Zalian bevri ni-<br />

Wieri adamiani muSaobs. darwmunebuli<br />

var, Tu am niWis gamoyenebis<br />

saSualeba Tavisufal<br />

televiziaSi miecemaT, mas gacilebiT<br />

did simaRleze aiyvanen.<br />

rac Sexeba sasamarTlos, zogadad,<br />

samarTlianobis momxre<br />

var da sasamarTlos pativi unda<br />

vceT maSinac ki, rodesac misi<br />

gadawyvetileba Cvens xedvas<br />

ar Seesabameba, magram, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

Seuracxyofili var<br />

imiT, rom viRac erTma mosamar-<br />

Tlem, vinc ar unda iyos is,<br />

strasburgSi, mapatieT am sityvisTvis,<br />

magram fexebze daikida<br />

mTeli qarTuli marTlmsajuleba<br />

ise, rom arc ki mousmenia<br />

meore mxarisTvis, aseTi<br />

gadawyvetileba miiRo da er-<br />

Tad aRebuli qarTuli marTlmsajulebis<br />

yvela instanciis ignorireba<br />

moaxdina.<br />

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brifingi gamarTa da strasburgidan<br />

miRebuli korespondenciis<br />

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dasasabuTeblad sxvadasxva<br />

gancxadeba waradgina, maT Soris,<br />

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strasburgis evrosabWos saparlamento<br />

asambleis, EPP-s wevrebis,<br />

guSindeli amerikis saelCos<br />

gancxadeba, SigniT, mediaSi gakeTebuli<br />

sxvadasxva gancxadeba<br />

da Tqva, rom Tu strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />

sarCelis uzrunvelyofis<br />

mis mier moTxovnil RonisZiebas<br />

ar gamoiyenebda, saqarTveloSi<br />

dasruldeboda demokratia<br />

da Tbilisis quCebSi atydeboda<br />

Zaladoba da qaosi, bevr sxva<br />

negatiur movlenasTan erTad,<br />

rac SesaZloa, strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

mier misTvis uaris Tqmas<br />

mohyoloda. strasburgis sasamarTloSi,<br />

rogorc maT mier<br />

gamogzavnili werilidan irkveva,<br />

morige mosamarTlem gadawyvetileba<br />

erTpirovnulad miiRo,<br />

romlis gvari, procedura aseTia,<br />

aris ucnobi da ise, rom Cven meore<br />

mxare, mopasuxe mxare, ar vyofilvarT<br />

saqmis kursSi Cayenebuli<br />

da Cvengan raime informacia<br />

gamoTxovili dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />

ar yofila. miiRo Semdegi gadawyvetileba,<br />

rom ara saqmis dasrulebamde,<br />

aramed ama wlis8 martamde<br />

miRebul iqnes sarCelis<br />

uzrunvelyofis RonisZieba da<br />

xelisuflebam ar ganaxorcielos<br />

aranairi RonisZieba nebismieri<br />

formiT, ra formiTac ar unda<br />

iyos es, romelic gamoiwvevda kompaniis<br />

saredaqcio politikis Secvlas.<br />

am saqmes mosamarTlem mianiWa<br />

prioriteti, rac imas niSnavs,<br />

rom saqarTvelodan gagzavnil<br />

sxva nebismier saCivarze adre,<br />

iqneba es cixidan gagzavnili,<br />

rigiTi moqalaqis mier gagzavnili,<br />

Tu sxva, am yvela saCivarze<br />

adre ganixilavs mocemul saqmes.<br />

Cven proceduris dacviT mivyvebiT<br />

am saqmes ise, rogorc iwarmoeba<br />

nebismieri sxva saqme strasburgis<br />

sasamarTloSi”, _ ganacx-<br />

ada wulukianma.<br />

ras iTvaliswinebs strasburgis<br />

adamianis uflebaTa sasamar-<br />

TloSi miRebuli gadawyvetileba?<br />

ra samarTlebrivi nabijebi<br />

unda gadaidgas Semdgom am saqmeze?<br />

„qronika+” iuristebs esaubra.<br />

`rodesac saqme exeba qonebrivi tipis davebs, faqtobrivad, es<br />

arasodes ar yofila gamoyenebuli evropuli sasamarTlos<br />

praqtikaSi. amitom SeCereba am SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovania,<br />

oRond aq erT faqtors unda mivaqcioT yuradReba: rom am<br />

gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba SeCerebulia sul ramdenime<br />

dRiT da 8 marts evropis sasamarTlo kvlav ganixilavs am<br />

sakiTxs da Tavis gadawyvetilebas miiRebs droebiTi<br />

RonisZiebis Taobaze, an sabolood danergavs am tipis<br />

precedents, rom aseTi tipis davebze SesaZlebelia droebiTi<br />

RonisZiebis gamoyeneba, an ar danergavs. rac Seexeba Semdgom<br />

nabijebs, sabolood, ra gadawyvetilebas gamoitans evropuli<br />

sasamarTlo, amas gaaCnia. Tu iseTi gadawyvetileba<br />

gamoitana, sadac miCneuli iqneba, rom darRveuli iyo<br />

sakuTrebis, an samarTliani sasamarTlos ufleba, aseT<br />

SemTxvevaSi, saxelmwifos Tavidan daevaleba am saqmis<br />

ganxilva im SeniSvnebis gaTvaliswinebiT, romelTac<br />

evropuli sasamarTlo miuTiTebs~<br />

ras niSnavs strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetileba?!<br />

soso baraTaSvili<br />

levan alafiSvili:<br />

_ gasagebad rom avxsnaT, ras<br />

niSnavs SeCerebis meqanizmi da saqarTvelos<br />

magaliTebi rom movixmoT,<br />

SegaxsenebT: sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTlom gasul wels SeaCera<br />

erovnuli bankis Sesaxeb kanonSi<br />

Setanili cvlilebebi manamde,<br />

sanam TviTon sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTlo arsebiTad ar ganixilavda<br />

sakiTxs. aq igivea, oRond<br />

ara sakonstitucio, aramed Cveulebriv<br />

sasamarTloSi rom ganvixiloT<br />

SemTxveva. magaliTad, sasamarTloSi<br />

mxareebi ki daoben, magram<br />

sanam sami instanciis sasamarTlo<br />

ganixilavs da gadawyvetilebas<br />

miiRebs, sasamarTlos mimarTaven<br />

da is iRebs gadawyvetilebas,<br />

magaliTad, yadaRis gamoyenebis<br />

Sesaxeb, ama Tu im moqmedebis<br />

akrZalvis Sesaxeb; droebi-<br />

Ti RonisZieba sasamarTlos Sinaarsobrivi<br />

saboloo gadawyvetilebis<br />

miRebamde da kanonier<br />

ZalaSi Sesvlamde. droebiTi RonisZieba<br />

amitom hqvia, sanam Sinaarsobrivad<br />

saboloo gadawyvetileba<br />

ar miiReba. gansaxilvel saqmeze<br />

Tu gainteresebT, SegaxsenebT,<br />

rom pirveli instanciis sasamarTloSi<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze<br />

sasamarTlos gamoyenebuli<br />

aqvs davis dawyebisTanave yadaRa,<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is qoneba dayadaRebulia<br />

da gamoyenebulia garkveuli<br />

akrZalva, raRac garigebebis<br />

warmoeba „rusTavi 2"-s akrZaluli<br />

aqvs sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

kanonier ZalaSi Sesvlamde,<br />

anu uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

kanonieri gadawyvetilebis Zala-<br />

Si Sesvlamdeo. amdagvari RonisZiebaa<br />

strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />

sasamarTlos mier gamoyenebuli<br />

SeCerebis meqanizmi, oRond<br />

dadasturebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />

romelic 8 marts unda moxdes, is<br />

gagrZeldeba sasamarTlos saboloo<br />

gadawyvetilebis miRebamde.<br />

ra Tqma unda, Tuki dadasturda,<br />

ra iyo, sad varT da ra unda moxdes<br />

8 marts, esec saintereso iqneba.<br />

aRsaniSnavia, rom strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos regulaciebiT yvela<br />

sakiTxi, romelic saqmis warmoebas<br />

Seexeba da ara saregistracio<br />

administraciul procedurebs,<br />

yvela sakiTxze msjelobs<br />

da gadawyvetilebas iRebs<br />

kolegiuri Semadgenloba, palata,<br />

magram imisTvis, rom gadaudebel<br />

SemTxvevebSi sasamarTlos<br />

saqmianoba efeqtiani iyos,<br />

igive strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

regulaciiT, gaTvaliswinebulia<br />

gamonaklisi wesi e. w. erTi mosamarTlis<br />

mier miRebuli gadawyvetileba<br />

droebiT, sanam ar Seikribeba<br />

kolegiuri Semadgenloba.<br />

kolegia Semdeg imsjelebs da an<br />

daadasturebs mosamarTlis erTpirovnul<br />

gadawyvetilebas, an Secvlis,<br />

an uaryofs. radgan kolegiurad<br />

ixilavs yvela sakiTxs,<br />

bunebrivia, maTi Sexvedris dRis<br />

wesrigi winaswar, Zalian didi<br />

xniT aris gawerili da saswrafo<br />

sakiTxis warmoCenis SemTxvevaSi<br />

gaweril dRis wesrigSi radgan am<br />

saswrafod dayenebuli sakiTxis<br />

Casma ver eswreba, swored amitom,<br />

regulaciiT, erTi mosamar-<br />

Tle uflebamosilia, aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />

miiRos, oRond im vadiT,<br />

rom e. w. kolegiuri dRis<br />

wesrigis sxdomisTvis uaxloes<br />

periodSi moeswros sakiTxis ganxilva,<br />

dadastureba Tu uaryofa.<br />

vaxtang xmalaZe:<br />

_ yvela demokratiul samyaroSi<br />

asea, rodesac mosarCele sasamarTlos<br />

mimarTavs, mas ufleba<br />

aqvs, sasamarTlos sTxovos,<br />

rom SeCerdes garkveuli moqmedeba.<br />

magaliTad, Tqven miCiviT me<br />

da raRac qonebaze medavebiT.<br />

sasamarTloSi rom SeitanT sar-<br />

Cels, SegiZliaT sTxovoT, rom<br />

Cems qonebas yadaRa daadon, raTa<br />

sanam sasamarTlo am saqmes ganixilavs,<br />

amasobaSi me Cemi qoneba ar<br />

gavyido, romelic SeiZleba sasamarTlom<br />

Tqven mogakuTvnoT.<br />

zogadad, wesi aseTia, rodesac<br />

sasamarTlos sarCeliT mimarTav,<br />

SegiZlia moiTxovo sarCelis<br />

uzrunvelyofis RonisZiebis gatareba.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi es moTxovna<br />

iyo, rom SeCerdes uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba,<br />

es iyo „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

mxaris moTxovna da dasabuTebuli<br />

iyo imiT, rom SesaZlebelia,<br />

am gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebam<br />

gavlena moaxdinos am mauwyeblis<br />

saredaqcio politikaze, amitom<br />

gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis davis<br />

mizniT, gTxovT, SeaCeroT uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsrulebao. Cveulebriv, aseT<br />

Suamdgomlobas erTi mosamarTle<br />

ixilavs, wesi aseTia, im mosamar-<br />

Tlem miiCnia, rom aseTi safrTxe<br />

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malxaz pataraia<br />

arsebobs, amitom SeaCera am gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba 8 martamde.<br />

rogorc Cans, ase moiqca imitom,<br />

rom msgavsi qonebrivi davebis<br />

dros, strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

sxva dros, ufro adre, ar<br />

SeuCerebia saxelmwifos sasamar-<br />

Tlos gadawyvetileba, aseTi precedenti<br />

iq ar iyo, amitom man sakuTar<br />

Tavze aiRo gadawyvetilebis<br />

myisieri SeCereba, magram Semdeg<br />

am sakiTxze sasamarTlo far-<br />

To SemadgenlobiT imsjelebs, amitom<br />

SeaCera 8 martamde, rom amasobaSi<br />

gadawyviton, SeaCeron aRsruleba<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

mier arsebiTad saqmis ganxilvamde,<br />

Tu gadawyvetilebis<br />

miRebamde moxsnan es SeCereba da<br />

mere, roca arsebiTad ganixilavs,<br />

rasac gadawyvets, imas gadawyvets.<br />

8 ricxvi Sors ar aris, unda<br />

davelodoT, am 2 dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />

ras ityvis, vinaidan TviTon mosarCeleebi<br />

iTxovdnen aRsrulebis<br />

SeCerebas, sanam strasburgi ar<br />

gamoitans gadawyvetilebas da<br />

rogorc guSin movismineT, sazogadoebrivi<br />

irganizaciebis erTma<br />

`yvela demokratiul samyaroSi asea, rodesac<br />

mosarCele sasamarTlos mimarTavs, mas ufleba<br />

aqvs, sasamarTlos sTxovos, rom SeCerdes<br />

garkveuli moqmedeba. magaliTad, Tqven miCiviT<br />

me da raRac qonebaze medavebiT. sasamarTloSi<br />

rom SeitanT sarCels, SegiZliaT sTxovoT,<br />

rom Cems qonebas yadaRa daadon, raTa sanam<br />

sasamarTlo am saqmes ganixilavs, amasobaSi me<br />

Cemi qoneba ar gavyido, romelic SeiZleba<br />

sasamarTlom Tqven mogakuTvnoT. zogadad, wesi<br />

aseTia, rodesac sasamarTlos sarCeliT<br />

mimarTav, SegiZlia moiTxovo sarCelis<br />

uzrunvelyofis RonisZiebis gatareba. am<br />

SemTxvevaSi es moTxovna iyo, rom SeCerdes<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba, es iyo "rusTavi 2"-is mxaris<br />

moTxovna da dasabuTebuli iyo imiT, rom<br />

SesaZlebelia, am gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebam<br />

gavlena moaxdinos am mauwyeblis saredaqcio<br />

politikaze, amitom gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis<br />

davis mizniT, gTxovT, SeaCeroT uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebao.<br />

Cveulebriv, aseT Suamdgomlobas erTi<br />

mosamarTle ixilavs, wesi aseTia, im<br />

mosamarTlem miiCnia, rom aseTi safrTxe<br />

arsebobs, amitom SeaCera am gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba 8 martamde~<br />

vaxtang xmalaZe<br />

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`evropis sasamarTlo am davaSi swored saxelmwifos<br />

moqmedebebs ganixilavs, maT Soris, upirvelesad<br />

Seafasebs sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebebs konvenciis<br />

normebTan mimarTebiT da darRvevis dadgenis<br />

SemTxvevaSi strasburgis gadawyvetileba iqneba<br />

saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos didi palatis<br />

gadawyvetilebis gadasinjvis safuZveli axlad<br />

aRmoCenil garemoebaTa gamo. aseTi norma arsebobs<br />

sisxlis samarTlis saproceso kodeqsSic.<br />

praqtikulad, Semxebloba gvqonda am procedurasTan.<br />

evropis sasamarTlos ganCinebis safuZvelze gadaisinja<br />

erTi Cveni saqme da gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni<br />

gamovida. amJamad, sasamarTloSi prokuraturasTan<br />

gauqmebuli gamamtyunebeli ganaCenisagan damdgari<br />

zianis Taobaze vdaobT~<br />

jgufma da politikuri partiebis<br />

nawilma aseve mimarTa strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos im TxovniT,<br />

rom aRsruleba SeCerdes manamde,<br />

sanam strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />

dacvis sasamarTlo Tavad<br />

ar gamoitans gadawyvetilebas.<br />

ase rom, es iqneba TviTon strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos gadasawyveti<br />

sakiTxi.<br />

soso baraTaSvili:<br />

_ saqarTvelo 1998 wlidan mierTebulia<br />

evropul konvencias<br />

da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelodan<br />

wasul saqmeebs adamianis ufleba-<br />

Ta evropuli sasamarTlo ixilavs,<br />

magram garda konvenciisa,<br />

arsebobs evropuli sasamarTlos<br />

reglamenti, romelic aregulirebs<br />

sxvadasxva sakiTxs da, maT Soris,<br />

aregulirebs droebiTi RonisZiebis<br />

sakiTxs. paraleli rom<br />

gavavloT, samoqalaqo samarTal-<br />

Si CvenTan arsebobs sarCelis uzrunvelyofis<br />

RonisZieba da analogiuri<br />

ram aris iqac. anu reglamentis<br />

39-e muxlSi weria, rom<br />

sasamarTlos SeuZlia miiRos<br />

droebiTi RonisZieba im SemTxvevaSi,<br />

Tu amas sasamarTlo saWirod<br />

miiCnevs, magram vinaidan<br />

evropuli sasamarTlo aris precedentuli<br />

sasamarTlo, anu precedentebs<br />

aqvs Zalian didi mniSvneloba,<br />

mniSvneloba aqvs imasac,<br />

Tu ra iyo aqamde damkvidrebuli<br />

droebiTi RonisZiebis mimarTulebiT.<br />

aq iyo ori tipis SemTxveva:<br />

pirveli iyo eqstradicias daqvemdebarebuli<br />

saqmeebi, rodesac<br />

eqstradicias apirebda erTi<br />

saxelmwifo, meorisTvis gadaeca<br />

misi qveynis moqalaqe, romelsac<br />

im qveyanaSi wameba elodeboda,<br />

Tu gadascemda, faqtobrivad,<br />

rac ar unda sarCeli ganexila<br />

evropul sasamarTlos, is veRar<br />

Sesruldeboda. amitom am mimarTulebiT<br />

araerT saqmeze gamoiyenes<br />

droebiTi RonisZieba, maT<br />

Soris, saqarTvelos saqmeebzec _<br />

Samaevi da sxvebi saqarTvelos<br />

winaaRmdeg, 2001 wels, rodesac<br />

evropulma sasamarTlom SeaCera<br />

CeCeni erovnebis adamianis eqstradicia<br />

CeCneTSi da, faqtobrivad,<br />

saqarTvelodan Semdgom es<br />

adamiani aRar gadasces. Semdgom<br />

maTi saqme evropulma sasamarTlom<br />

ganixila, gadawyvetileba miiRo<br />

da a. S., magram es droebiTi<br />

RonisZieba rom ar yofiloyo gamoyenebuli,<br />

bunebrivia, Semdgom-<br />

levan alafiSvili<br />

Si ukve azri daekargeboda aRsrulebas.<br />

meore SemTxveva aris,<br />

rodesac adamiani avadaa, es sakiTxi<br />

patimrebs exeba da mas sWirdeba<br />

gadaudebeli mkurnaloba,<br />

am SemTxvevaSic iyenebs droebiT<br />

RonisZiebas, magaliTad, molaSvilis<br />

saqmeze gamoiyenes es RonisZieba,<br />

rodesac saxelmwifos daevala,<br />

rom, Tavis droze, Caetarebina<br />

efeqtiani mkurnaloba, Seqmniliyo<br />

komisia da saxelmwifom<br />

amis gamo garkveuli sazRauri<br />

gaiRo, magram rodesac saqme exeba<br />

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es arasodes ar yofila<br />

gamoyenebuli evropuli sasamarTlos<br />

praqtikaSi. amitom Se-<br />

Cereba am SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovania,<br />

oRond aq erT faqtors<br />

unda mivaqcioT yuradReba: rom<br />

am gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba<br />

SeCerebulia sul ramdenime dRiT<br />

da 8 marts evropis sasamarTlo<br />

kvlav ganixilavs am sakiTxs da<br />

Tavis gadawyvetilebas miiRebs<br />

droebiTi RonisZiebis Taobaze,<br />

an sabolood danergavs am tipis<br />

precedents, rom aseTi tipis dav-<br />

ebze SesaZlebelia droebiTi<br />

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gamoitans evropuli sasamarTlo,<br />

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gadawyvetileba gamoitana, sadac<br />

miCneuli iqneba, rom darRveuli<br />

iyo sakuTrebis, an samarTliani<br />

sasamarTlos ufleba, aseT Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi, saxelmwifos Tavidan<br />

daevaleba am saqmis ganxilva im<br />

SeniSvnebis gaTvaliswinebiT, romelTac<br />

evropuli sasamarTlo<br />

miuTiTebs.<br />

malxaz pataraia:<br />

_ TiTqos strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetileba ver moaxdens<br />

gavlenas uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

saboloo gadawyvetilebaze<br />

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es an umecrebaa, an kidev<br />

sazogadoebisTvis ganzrax Tval-<br />

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gadaxedvas adamianis<br />

uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze.<br />

„muxli 423. gancxadeba axlad<br />

aRmoCenil garemoebaTa gamo saqmis<br />

warmoebis ganaxlebis Sesaxeb:<br />

1. kanonier ZalaSi Sesuli gadawyvetileba<br />

SeiZleba gasaCivrdes<br />

axlad aRmoCenil garemoeba-<br />

Ta gamo saqmis warmoebis ganaxlebis<br />

moTxovniT, Tu:<br />

z) arsebobs adamianis ufleba-<br />

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ZalaSi Sesuli gadawyvetileba<br />

(ganCineba), romelmac daadgina<br />

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Tad TavisuflebaTa dacvis konvenciis<br />

an/da misi damatebiTi oqmebis<br />

darRveva am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />

da dadgenili darRveva<br />

gadasasinji gadawyvetilebidan<br />

gamomdinareobs”.<br />

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swored saxelmwifos moqmedebebs<br />

`pirveli instanciis sasamarTloSi `rusTavi 2"-<br />

is saqmeze sasamarTlos gamoyenebuli aqvs<br />

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uflebaTa sasamarTlos mier gamoyenebuli<br />

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garemoebaTa gamo. aseTi<br />

norma arsebobs sisxlis samarTlis<br />

saproceso kodeqsSic. praqtikulad,<br />

Semxebloba gvqonda am<br />

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aRsruleba, rac<br />

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sicocxles safrTxe emuqreba.<br />

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imediT ar varT, Tumca<br />

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lo gadawyvetilebaze, aseve, „tviterze”<br />

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saqarTvelos vizaliberalizacia,<br />

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2"-is konfiskacia srulad ar<br />

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krosi.<br />

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gadawyvetileba „rusTavi 2"-<br />

is saqmeze Seafasa, rogorc evropul<br />

gzaze ukan gadadgmuli nabiji.<br />

poziciebi „tviterze” evropis<br />

saxalxo partiis prezidentma,<br />

jozef dolim da evroparlamentis<br />

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mediis Tavisuflebas safrTxe<br />

emuqreba, radgan „rusTavi 2"<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobis ndobiT<br />

aRWurvili piris xelSi gadavida.<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT gancxadeba<br />

saqarTveloSi evrokavSiris<br />

warmomadgenlobamac gaakeTa.<br />

„euTos” warmomadgenelma mediis<br />

Tavisuflebis sakiTxebSi, d-<br />

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gaakeTa:<br />

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sanam SeiZleba<br />

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ver `gaaprava~ da mxolod faqtis konstataciiT<br />

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gadawyvetileba miiRo<br />

da es iyo signali saerTaSoriso<br />

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pirvelad, jer kidev, strasburgis<br />

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebamde,<br />

sakiTxs saqarTvelos<br />

prezidenti gamoexmaura da sakmaod<br />

Wkvianuri gancxadeba gaakeTa:<br />

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gamomdinare, minda yvela<br />

mxares movuwodo: sakonstitucio<br />

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adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebebs movusminoT,<br />

davelodoT da ar gadavdgaT<br />

myisieri nabijebi”.<br />

sul male evropisa da danar-<br />

Ceni msoflios gavleniani politikosebi,<br />

analitikosebi da saer-<br />

TaSoriso organizaciebi uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos didi palatis<br />

mier „rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze miRebul<br />

gadawyvetilebaze alaparakdnen<br />

da masSi qveynisTvis seriozuli<br />

problema dainaxes.<br />

magaliTad, evroparlamentis<br />

wevrma da saxalxo partiis viceprezidentma,<br />

cariuS volskim,<br />

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saqarTvelos mTavroba daeloda<br />

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qveynisTvis uvizo mimosvlis Se-<br />

Cerebas moiTxovs:<br />

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es iyo politikuri<br />

gadawyvetileba, romelzec pasuxismgebloba<br />

ekisreba ivaniSvils<br />

da mis mTavrobas. es gaakeTes vizaliberalizaciis<br />

miRebidan meore<br />

dRes, rac evrokavSiris dacinva<br />

iyo.<br />

aseT viTarebaSi, sanam „rusTavi<br />

2"-is bedi ar gairkveva, vizaliberalizacia<br />

unda SeCerdes,<br />

radgan saqarTvelo ar asrulebs<br />

kriteriumebs. evrokavSirs yvela<br />

sababi aqvs, rom Tavi igrZnos<br />

saqarTvelos mier motyuebulad.<br />

qarTveli xalxi imsaxurebs uvizo<br />

reJims, magram ara es mTavroba,<br />

romelsac ivaniSvili kulisebidan<br />

marTavs”, _ Tqva man.<br />

cariuS volski erTaderTi ar<br />

iyo, vinc msgavsi gancxadeba gaakeTa.<br />

estonelma diplomatma da<br />

politikosma erik krosma „rusTavi<br />

2"-Tan dakavSirebul sasamarT-<br />

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SemTxvevaSi, seriozuli<br />

da Seuqcevadi zianis realuri<br />

riskis winaSe dgeba.<br />

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biznesmen qibar xalvaSs daubrundes,<br />

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saqarTvelos Soris gaformebul<br />

asocirebis SeTanxmebaSi mocemul<br />

umTavres valdebulebebs”, _ aRniSnuli<br />

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sasamarTloze politikuri zewolis<br />

models mihyvebian, romlis<br />

Sedegicaa kritikuli mediis potenciuri<br />

daxurva”, _ aRniSna organizacia<br />

Freedom House-is proeqtebis<br />

direqtorma, neiT Senkanma.<br />

aSS-is saelCo erT-erTi pirveli<br />

iyo, vinc „rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze<br />

miRebul gadawyvetilebas sagangebo<br />

gancxadebiT gamoexmaura:<br />

„amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi<br />

SeSfoTebiT uyurebs uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos mier „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

Sesaxeb miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />

Sedegs, ramac, SesaZloa, faqtobrivad,<br />

SezRudos samauwyeblo<br />

mediisadmi opoziciuri xmis<br />

wvdoma.<br />

pluralisturi media umniSvnelovanesia<br />

saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />

zrdisa da evroatlantikuri<br />

miswrafebebisTvis.<br />

Cven movuwodebT mTavrobas,<br />

zomebi miiRos, raTa uzrunvelyos,<br />

rom mediagaremo darCes Tavisufali,<br />

Ria da pluralisturi”,<br />

_ naTqvami iyo gancxadebaSi.<br />

amerikeli analitikosi, pol<br />

krigo, ufro Sors wavida da acxadebda,<br />

rom „rusTavi 2"-is miTvisebis<br />

mcdelobis fonze, saqarTvelo<br />

ufro metad emsgavseba ruseTs.<br />

makkeinis institutis direqtorma<br />

adamianis uflebebis mimarTulebiT<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebas „qveynisTvis movlenebis<br />

samwuxaro ganviTareba”<br />

uwoda.<br />

Zalian saintereso da xelisuflebisTvis<br />

aranakleb niSandoblivi<br />

unda yofiliyo saerTa-<br />

Soriso presis gamoxmaureba uzenaesi<br />

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT:<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

diis gaCumebis mcdeloba uwodes”,<br />

_ werda gamocema.<br />

„Tuki „rusTavi 2"-s mTavrobasTan<br />

damegobrebuli biznesmeni<br />

waiRebs, es saqarTvelos evropul<br />

gzas daazianebs”, _ es gancxadeba<br />

ki uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

Semdeg amerikelma Jurnalistma,<br />

jeims qirCikma, gaake-<br />

Ta, romelmac strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebas mniSvnelovani<br />

uwoda:<br />

`saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT saerTaSoriso sazogadoeba ase erTiani,<br />

karga xania, ar yofila - maTTvis uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />

is wiTeli xazi aRmoCnda, romelic xelisuflebam gadalaxa. am sakiTxSi<br />

msoflio presisa da politikosebis poziciebic erTmaneTs daemTxva.<br />

rogorc Cans, mniSvnelovani saerTaSoriso organizaciebi da<br />

evrokavSiris wevri qveynebisa Tu aSS-is saxelmwifo struqturebi Tavad<br />

`rusTavi 2"-is qarTvel gulSematkivrebze naklebad ar elodebodnen<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas. albaT, swored es<br />

gadawyvetileba unda yofiliyo testi, ra formisa da Sinaarsis<br />

gancxadebebi gakeTdeboda saerTaSoriso organizaciebis mxridan~<br />

„evroatlantikuri integracia<br />

rom warmatebuli iyos, amis umniSvnelovanesi<br />

nawili mediis<br />

pluralizmi da Tavisuflebaa.<br />

Cven vxedavT, Tu ra xdeba qveynebSi,<br />

sadac damoukidebeli media<br />

saxelmwifos tyveobaSi eqceva.<br />

amas vuyurebT ruseTSi. Tuki<br />

„rusTavi 2"-s mTavrobasTan damegobrebuli<br />

biznesmeni waiRebs, es<br />

saqarTvelos evropul gzas daazianebs.<br />

vfiqrob, rom es Tema<br />

evropelebisTvis mniSvnelovania”,<br />

_ ganacxada jeims qirCikma.<br />

aSS-is saxelmwifo departmentma,<br />

ase vTqvaT, odnav daagviana<br />

biZina ivaniSvilisTvis „dedis<br />

dRis” milocva. es, savaraudod,<br />

iman ganapiroba, rom saqarTvelo-<br />

Si aSS-is saelCos ukve hqonda gancxadeba<br />

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pozicia ki igive TeTri saxlis<br />

poziciaa.<br />

marTalia, es „ocnebis” mesveurebs<br />

ar esmiT da erTxel isic<br />

ki Tqves, rom elCis naTqvami misi<br />

„piradi azri” iyo, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />

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warmomadgenlisTvis „rusTavi 2"-<br />

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warmomadgenelma samauwyeblo<br />

kompania „amerikis<br />

xmis” korespondentis, sindi seinis<br />

SekiTxvas upasuxa:<br />

„SeerTebuli Statebi SeSfo-<br />

Tebulia „rusTavi 2"-Tan dakav-<br />

SirebiT (saqarTvelos) uzenaesi<br />

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SedegiT. (gadawyvetilebam) Sesa-<br />

Zloa, SezRudos opoziciis xma<br />

qarTul samauwyeblo mediaSi.<br />

pluralisturi mediagaremo<br />

arsebiTia saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />

zrdisa da evroatlantikuri<br />

miswrafebebisTvis. vTxovT<br />

saqarTvelos mTavrobas,<br />

nabijebi gadadgas da uzrunvelyos,<br />

rom mediagaremo darCes Tavisufali,<br />

Ria da pluralisturi”.<br />

rac Seexeba evrosasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebas saqarTvelos<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos ganaCenis<br />

aRsrulebis SeCerebis Sesaxeb, am<br />

gadawyvetilebas amerikeli analitikosebi<br />

kmayofilebiT Sexvdnen.<br />

eqspertebis TqmiT, strasburgis<br />

gadawyvetilebam kidev erTxel<br />

gausva xazi, Tu ramdenad mniSvnelovania<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is saqme<br />

demokratiisTvis, radgan mas mosamarTlis<br />

uprecedento gadawyvetileba<br />

mohyva.<br />

„Cemi azriT, es uCvenebs imas,<br />

Tu ramdenad seriozulad aRiqves<br />

es saqme, rogorc evropaSi,<br />

ise vaSingtonSi. mediis Tavisufleba<br />

kritikulad mniSvnelovani<br />

da saTuTi Rirebulebaa. rodesac<br />

evropuli sasamarTlo aseT nabijs<br />

dgams, es dadasturebaa, Tu<br />

ramdenad SeSfoTebulebi arian am<br />

sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT. mniSvnelovania,<br />

rom yvelaferi iuridiulad<br />

da transparentulad iyos,<br />

Tumca aseve Zalian mniSvnelovania,<br />

rom presis Tavisufleba daicvan<br />

saqarTveloSi. es aris mTavari<br />

problema, romelic unda gamoswordes.<br />

presis Tavisufleba<br />

da opoziciis wvdoma mediasTan<br />

umTavresia”, _ ganacxada aSS-is<br />

yofilma elCma saqarTveloSi,<br />

kenet ialovicma.<br />

makkeinis institutis aRmasrulebeli<br />

direqtori, SeerTebuli<br />

Statebis yofili elCi natoSi,<br />

kurt vokeri, ambobs, rom saqar-<br />

TvelosTvis, iseve rogorc yvela<br />

qveynisTvis, Tavisufali da<br />

mravalferovani mediagaremo<br />

aucilebelia. diplomati im saxifaTo<br />

tendenciebs ganmartavs,<br />

romelic amas xels uSlis:<br />

„gaxsnili media garemo, mravalferovani<br />

mflobelebiT, bevri<br />

aspeqtiT da mravalmxrivi SexedulebiT,<br />

sadac Tavisuflad SeuZliaT<br />

azris gamoxatva, nebismieri<br />

qveynisTvis kritikulad<br />

mniSvnelovania. es gvWirdeba SeerTebul<br />

StatebSic. Cven gvaqvs<br />

Zalian farTo da gaxsnili mediagaremo,<br />

sxvadasxva mxariT da yvelas<br />

xma ismis.<br />

es yvela qveyanas sWirdeba da,<br />

maT Soris, saqarTvelos. es sworedac<br />

rom aZlierebs mTavrobas<br />

da opoziciasac, radgan mediis<br />

saSualebiT ufro energiuli debatebi<br />

iarsebebs”, _ ganacxada<br />

kurt vokerma.<br />

diplomatma aRniSna, rom mauwyeblebs<br />

ar unda hqondeT erTnairi<br />

Sexedulebebi.<br />

„Tu Cven gveqneba iseTi situacia,<br />

rodesac mTavrobis mier mar-<br />

Tul mauwyebels da sxva mTavar<br />

kerZo mauwyeblebs eqnebaT erTnairi<br />

politikuri Sexedulebebi,<br />

es SekiTxvas wamowevs sistemuri<br />

mediis gaxsnilobisa da mravalferovnebis<br />

Sesaxeb”, _ ganacxada<br />

kurt vokerma.<br />

mediis Tavisuflebis sakiTxze<br />

TavianTi mosazrebebi rusma eqspertebmac<br />

gamoTqves:<br />

analitikosi andrei ilarionovi<br />

fiqrobs, rom samoqalaqo da<br />

politikuri uflebebi da ZiriTadi<br />

Tavisuflebebi yvela qveynisTvis<br />

Zalian Rirebulia.<br />

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winaT vladimir putinis mrCeveli<br />

iyo da im procesis momswrea,<br />

rodesac ruseTSi araerTi telekompania<br />

gaaCumes.<br />

rasakvirvelia, saerTaSoriso<br />

gamoxmaurebebi strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebaze imitomac<br />

iyo mniSvnelovani, rom 8<br />

martamde is sakiTxis Seswavlas<br />

moaswrebs da, savaraudod, Semdgomi<br />

gadawyvetilebis miRebamde<br />

swored am saerTaSoriso gamoxmaurebebis<br />

simwvaves da mkveTr<br />

tons daakvirdeba.<br />

saqarTvelos xelisufleba,<br />

ukve meramdened, TiTqmis, gamouval<br />

situaciaSia. imdenadac ki,<br />

rom es nabiji TviT Tea wulukianmac<br />

ver „gaaprava” da mxolod<br />

faqtis konstataciiT Semoifargla,<br />

mere ki friad komikuri ram<br />

daayola, riTac „Ramis morigeebis”<br />

Temaze axali maxvilgonivruli<br />

xumrobebis talRas Cauyara<br />

safuZveli.<br />

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Zalauflebis ganmtkicebis mizniT. gansakuTrebiT farTod iyo<br />

gavrcelebuli me-15-16 ss-ebSi; am gziT amaRldnen papis san-<br />

aTesavodan SemdgomSi Zlevamosili gvarebi (borgeze, ludovizi,<br />

borjia da sxvebi). 2. Tanamedrove terminologiiT, nepotizmi<br />

gulisxmobs Tanamdebobebis dakavebas, upiratesad, naTesavebis<br />

mier saerTo da samarTliani wesrigis sawinaaRmdegod.<br />

RaribaSvilis cnobili fraza:<br />

„Tqven ar gsmeniaT, rom meuRlis<br />

naTesavi naTesavi ar aris?” razec<br />

nadiraSvilma upasuxa, rom es „kaxuri<br />

sibrZnea” da is am „sibrZnes”<br />

icnobs. cota aramarTebulia... radgan<br />

es namdvilad araTu kaxuri,<br />

aramed qiziyuri sibrZnea da, bunebrivia,<br />

qiziyelebSi maradiulad<br />

gvxvdeba.<br />

dRevandeli Cveni Temac swored<br />

naTesavebi arian, oRond, sosos<br />

colis naTesavebi...<br />

Sps „saqarTvelos navTobisa da<br />

gazis korporacia”, ekonomikuri<br />

ganviTarebis ministris brZanebis<br />

safuZvelze, 2006 wlis 21 marts<br />

100%-iani saxelmwifo wiliT dafuZnda.<br />

korporaciis sawesdebo kapitalSi,<br />

romelic 166 021 192 lars<br />

Seadgens, Sevida „saqarTvelos nav-<br />

Tobis saerTaSoriso korporaciis”,<br />

ss „saqarTvelos gazis saerTa-<br />

Soriso korporaciisa” da ss „saqnavTobis”<br />

saxelmwifos sakuTreba-<br />

Si arsebuli aqciebi.<br />

korporaciis saqmianobis Ziri-<br />

Tadi mimarTulebebia: navTobisa<br />

da gazis resursebis daZieba, maTi<br />

aTviseba, mopoveba, am samuSaoTa<br />

daproeqteba, aseve navTobisa da<br />

gazis, maTi produqtebis saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriaze da mis farglebs<br />

gareT transportirebis,<br />

tranzitis, eqsportis, importis,<br />

Senaxvis, momzadebis, gadamuSavebis,<br />

realizaciisa da marketingis<br />

operaciebis warmoeba;<br />

qeTevan martyofliSvili<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

giorgi xelaSvili<br />

saqarTveloSi arsebuli magistraluri<br />

gazsadenebis sistemis,<br />

gazsadenebisa da navTobsadenebis<br />

eqspluatacia; maTi aRdgena da axliT<br />

Secvla; axali magistraluri<br />

gazsadenebisa da navTobsadenebis<br />

daproeqteba da mSenebloba; sa-<br />

Tanado infrastruqturis Seqmna,<br />

ganviTareba da operireba;<br />

agreTve, samrewvelo, sayofacxovrebo<br />

da komunaluri obieqtebis,<br />

saqarTvelos qalaqebisa da<br />

soflebis bunebrivi gaziT uzrunvelyofa;<br />

kaspiis zRvis auzis,<br />

aseve, sxva warmoSobis mqone navTobisa<br />

da gazis magistraluri milsadenebiT<br />

transportirebasTan<br />

dakavSirebuli proeqtebis ganxorcieleba.<br />

saqarTvelos navTobisa da gazis<br />

korporacia yvelaze Zlieri saxelmwifo<br />

Sps-a, sadac soliduri<br />

biujeti da arnaxuli Tanxis brunvaa.<br />

2012 wlis mere SesamCnevi gaxda,<br />

rom „qarTuli ocnebis” didi aqtivistebi<br />

da irakli RaribaSvilis<br />

megobrebi swored am korporacia-<br />

Si iwyeben muSaobas, sadac maT soliduri<br />

xelfasebi aqvT...<br />

Tumca irakli warsuls Cabarda,<br />

samagierod, qiziyidan dagvrCa soso.<br />

ioseb-soso gogaSvilis meuRle<br />

Tea martyofliSvili warsulSi<br />

sad muSaobda, CvenTvis ucnobia,<br />

Tumca martyofliSvili „saqarTvelos<br />

navTobisa da gazis korporaciis”<br />

mTavari specialisti iyo<br />

2014 wels, xolo 2016 wels gogaSvilis<br />

qonebriv deklaraciaSi<br />

gazis transportirebis kompaniaSi<br />

administraciis ufrosis moadgiledaa<br />

miTiTebuli.<br />

ra Tqma unda, es ar aris yvelaferi.<br />

rogorc cnobilia, gogaSvils<br />

saxelmwifo Sps-Si mxolod misi<br />

meuRle ar dausaqmebia, magaliTad,<br />

Tea martyofliSvilis da -qeTevani,<br />

2012 wlis mere swored saqarTvelos<br />

navTobisa da gazis korporaciis<br />

TanamSromlad gvevlineba.<br />

magram mxolod colis erTi<br />

naTesaviT ar Semoifargleba gogaSvili<br />

_ giorgi xelaSvili ioseb<br />

gogaSvilis meuRlis, Tea martyofliSvilis<br />

dis, xaTuna martyofliSvilis<br />

vaJia. warsulSi xelaSvili<br />

kompania „Tbili saxlis” TanamSromeli<br />

iyo, Tumca 2014 wlis<br />

Semdeg is ukve saqarTvelos gazis<br />

transportirebis kompaniaSi iwyebs<br />

muSaobas.<br />

e. i. gogaSvilis meuRle, meuRlis<br />

da, da meuRlis disSvili,<br />

swored, 2012 wlis Semdeg gaxdnen<br />

kvalificiuri kadrebi, romelTa<br />

miRebazec uari ver Tqva iseTma<br />

didma kompaniam, rogoric aris Sps<br />

„saqarTvelos navTobisa da gazis<br />

korporacia”...<br />

realurad ki, roca vambobT, ra<br />

xdeba, ratom midis qveyana ukan,<br />

swored umTavresi mizezi gvaviwydeba...<br />

_ politikuri gavlena!<br />

gamWvirvalobisa da angariSvaldebulebis<br />

dabali standarti!<br />

araefeqtiani marTvis principebi!<br />

swored am sakiTxebidan gamomdinare<br />

imarTeba qveyana, romelic<br />

saxelmwifo sawarmoebs gansaku-<br />

TrebiT awuxebs.<br />

saxelmwifo kompaniebi politikuri<br />

gavlenebisgan Tavisufali<br />

ar arian, rac imiT gamoixateba,<br />

rom am kompaniebSi Tanamdebobebze<br />

mmarTvel politikur partiasTan<br />

daaxloebuli pirebi iniSnebian. amis<br />

naTeli magaliTi gogaSvilis<br />

ojaxia. amomrCevelTa erTiani siis<br />

mixedviT, Tea martyofliSvili,<br />

giorgi xelaSvili da qeTevan martyofliSvili<br />

erTsa da imave misamarTze<br />

cxovroben da erTi ojaxis<br />

wevrebi arian. faqtia, gasul<br />

wlebSi maT am kompaniebSi ar umu-<br />

SaviaT, maTi muSaobis dawyeba ki<br />

gogaSvilis dawinaurebas ukavSirdeba.<br />

saxelmwifo kompaniebSi: „saqar-<br />

Tvelos fosta”, „saqarTvelos<br />

latariis kompania”, „saqarTvelos<br />

navTobisa da gazis korporacia”,<br />

„marabda-karwaxis rkinigza”, „Tbilisis<br />

satransporto kompania”,<br />

„saqarTvelos rkinigza”, _ es is<br />

kompaniebia, sadac gogaSvilis magvarad<br />

Cinovnikebis axloblebi,<br />

naTesavebi, coleurebi Tu mZaxlebi<br />

„Sromoben”. ramdenad aris mosaxleoba<br />

am kompaniebis muSaobiT<br />

kmayofili, es Tavad gansajos.<br />

„navTobisa da gazis korporaciis”<br />

mogebis ganawilebis wess finansTa<br />

saministrosTan Seqmnili komisia<br />

adgens, romelSic 4 saministro<br />

Sedis da romelic 2013 wlis<br />

Semdeg ar Sekrebila. ase rom, vin<br />

igebs _ saxelmwifo Tu gogaSvili?<br />

_ amas momavali gviCvenebs. gasul<br />

wels „gamWvirvaloba saqarTvelom”<br />

rekomendaciiT mimarTa saxelmwifos,<br />

arsebobdes pirdapiri mimarTeba<br />

saxelmwifo sawarmoebsa da parlaments<br />

Soris, rom sawarmoebi angariSvaldebuli<br />

iyos parlamentis<br />

winaSe. unda arsebobdes erTi makoordinebeli<br />

organo,<br />

unda gaiweros saxelmwifo sawarmos<br />

eTikis kodeqsi<br />

sakanonmdeblo doneze, unda<br />

daregulirdes sajaro informaciis<br />

gacemis wesi saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi<br />

arsebuli sawarmoebisTvis,<br />

antikorufciuli kanonmdeblobis<br />

principebi srulad unda gavrceldes<br />

saxelmwifo sawarmoebze,<br />

saxelmwifo sawarmoebma saku-<br />

Tar vebgverdze gamoaqveynon socialuri,<br />

ekologiuri da saxelfaso<br />

politika.<br />

organizacias miaCnia, rom sawarmoebis<br />

sameTvalyureo sabWoebi<br />

unda dakompleqtdes gamWvirvale<br />

da mkafio kriteriumebis mixedviT.<br />

Tumca rekomendacia rekomendaciad<br />

darCa.<br />

Cemi suseli megobebi meubnebian,<br />

rom gogaSvilis ojaxis yvela<br />

wevri: Svilebi, rZali, siZe, oTxive<br />

colisda, qvislebi da colisZmac,<br />

anu sidedris garda, yvela sxvadasxva<br />

saxelmwifo kompaniaSia gadanawilebulia<br />

samuSaod. rac Seexeba<br />

soso gogaSvilis das, is erTerT<br />

skolaSi ukve didi xania, maswavleblad<br />

muSaobs da mas Zmis rekomendacia,<br />

rogorc Cans, ar dasWirvebia.<br />

qiziySi ki amboben xolme: rogorc<br />

rusTavi _ qalaqebSi, „moskviCi”<br />

_ manqanebSi, ise siZe da rZali<br />

naTesavebSi ar iTvlebiano...<br />

soso batono, roca sus-is<br />

ufrosis moadgile aRar iqnebiT,<br />

moyvrebze mere visaubroT...<br />

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„ar iqneba samarTlianoba, ar iqneba mSvidoba”, _ ukve loz-<br />

ungad qceuli es fraza idealurad miesadageba im viTarebas,<br />

romelic saqarTveloSi, ager ukve, 22-e welia, gvaqvs saarCevno<br />

garemosTan dakavSirebiT. ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, saubaria<br />

maJoritarul saarCevno sistemaze, romelmac saqarTveloSi<br />

ukiduresad mankieri saxe miiRo.<br />

sistemur mankierebebze odnav<br />

mogvianebiT visaubroT, manamde<br />

ki getyviT, rom am statiis daweris<br />

survili xelisuflebis mier<br />

ramdenime dRis winaT gaJRerebulma<br />

iniciativam gamiCina. kerZod,<br />

gasul xuTSabaTs, sakonstitucio<br />

komisiis sxdomaze, xelisuflebam<br />

ganacxada, rom mzadaa,<br />

maJoritaruli saarCevno sistema<br />

proporciuli sistemiT Caanacvlos.<br />

anu brZola, romelic 1995 wlidan<br />

politikosTa ramdeni Taobis<br />

mier mimdinareobs erTmandatiani<br />

maJoritaruli olqebis winaaRmdeg,<br />

SesaZloa, gamarjvebiT<br />

dasruldes(?).<br />

Tumca xelisufleba risi xelisuflebaa,<br />

bolo momentSi rom<br />

ar Casvaros da saqme ar gaafuWos.<br />

proporciul sistemaze gadasvlis<br />

iniciativas „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />

iseTi piroba moayola, sixarulis<br />

Rimili yvelas pirze miaSra.<br />

rogorc komisiis Tavmjdomarem<br />

ganmarta, xelisufleba<br />

proporciul sistemaze gadasvlas<br />

mxolod im SemTxvevaSi dasTanxmdeba,<br />

Tu arCevnebis Semdeg<br />

darCenili, gadaunawilebeli mandatebi,<br />

mTlianad pirvel adgilze<br />

gasul partias miecema. ras<br />

niSnavs es praqtikaSi?<br />

magaliTisTvis, bolo saparlamento<br />

arCevnebze 5%-iani barieri<br />

samma politikurma subieqtma<br />

gadalaxa. „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />

48% miiRo, „nacionalebma” _ 27%,<br />

xolo _ „patriotTa aliansma” _<br />

5%. erTad maT aiRes 80% da mandatebic<br />

Sesabamisad gainawiles.<br />

gadasanawilebeli darCa kidev<br />

20% mandatebisa. gamomdinare iqidan,<br />

rom dRevandeli Sereuli<br />

sistemiT 150-kacian parlamentSi<br />

proporciuli wesiT 77 deputats<br />

virCevT (danarCeni 73 maJoritaria),<br />

gadasanawilebeli darCa swored<br />

am 77-is 20%, anu 16 mandati,<br />

romelic bariergadalaxulebze<br />

Tanabrad gadanawilda. ai, swored<br />

am darCenili da gadasanawilebeli<br />

mandatebis srulad mikuTvnebas<br />

iTxovs „qarTuli ocneba”<br />

pirvel adgilze gasuli subieqtisTvis.<br />

oRond erTi mniSvnelovani<br />

detali:<br />

roca 150-ve deputats proporciuli<br />

sistemiT avirCevT, gaunawilebeli<br />

mandatebis raodenobas<br />

daviTvliT ukve ara 77-dan,<br />

rogorc dRes, aramed 150-dan. Sedegad<br />

ki miviRebT, rom, magaliTisTvis,<br />

Tu darCa kvlav gadaunawilebeli<br />

mandatebis 20%, es ukve<br />

iqneba 150-is 20%, anu 30 mandati.<br />

bunebrivad Cndeba kiTxva, _ ra<br />

Rorobaa?!. ra duokebeli moTxovnileba<br />

uCndeba yvela xelisuflebas,<br />

miisakuTros is, rac mas ar<br />

12<br />

maradiuli<br />

maJoritarebi da<br />

parlamentarobis<br />

`maradisobis<br />

kanoni~<br />

`Tavis droze, TviT biZina ivaniSvilic ver malavda. igi maT "feodalebs"<br />

uwodebda, rac saarCevno sistemis cvlilebis imeds aCenda, magram<br />

molodini mcdari aRmoCnda. rogorc ki biZinamac da mTelma "ocnebamac"<br />

dainaxa, rom reitingi katastrofulad dauvardaT, gadarCenis erTaderT<br />

gzad isev maJoritaruli sistemis SenarCuneba gadawyvites. avad Tu kargad,<br />

dRemde movaRwieT, magram ukve "ocnebaSic" xvdebian, rom mudmivad ase<br />

gagrZeleba ar SeiZleba. miT umetes, rom ukve yvela am saarCevno sistemis<br />

Secvlas iTxovs. iTxoven politikuri partiebi, iTxoven arasamTavroboebi<br />

da rac Zalian mniSvnelovania, iTxoven saerTaSoriso organizaciebi.<br />

evrosabWo ukve saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebul rezoluciebSi wers da<br />

migviTiTebs, rom gadadiT proporciul sistemazeo. amas garda, yvela<br />

mudmivad axsenebs "ocnebas", rom dRevandeli sistemis gauqmeba maTi<br />

winasaarCevno dapireba iyo 2012 wels~<br />

ekuTvnis?!. „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

pasuxi sruliad aradamajerebelia,<br />

magram mainc pasuxia, da ai,<br />

rogori: pirvel adgilze gasul<br />

partias, miuxedavad imisa, gadalaxa<br />

Tu ara man 50%-iani zRurbli,<br />

unda mieces saSualeba (am<br />

SemTxvevaSi damatebuli mandatebiT)<br />

daakompleqtos umravlesoba.<br />

„ocnebaSi” fiqroben, rom ar-<br />

Cevnebis Semdeg, Tu verc erTma<br />

partiam ver moagrova umravlesoba<br />

da saWiro gaxda saparlamento<br />

koaliciis Camoyalibeba sxva<br />

partiasTan, esaa ara demokratiis<br />

realuri gamovlineba, aramed<br />

katastrofa, qveynis daRupva da<br />

a. S. ukve meramdened, xelisufleba<br />

sakuTar Tavs ewinaaRmdeba.<br />

roca prezidentis pirdapiri wesiT<br />

arCeviTobaze gvesaubreba,<br />

gvimtkicebs, es imitomaa saWiro,<br />

rom klasikur saparlamento modelze<br />

unda gadavideTo. magram es<br />

klasikuri saparlamento modeli<br />

arCevnebis Semdeg, koaliciuri<br />

umravlesobisa da mTavrobis Camoyalibebasac<br />

rom iTvaliswinebs<br />

xolme, aviwydebaT, an Segnebulad<br />

iviwyeben.<br />

e. i. mTeli evropuli, saparlamento<br />

praqtika damRupveli yofila.<br />

koaliciebis SeqmniT evropeli<br />

politikosebi, Turme, ki ar<br />

aviTareben, aramed Rupaven TavianT<br />

qveynebs. ar daijerebT da<br />

„ocnebaSi” marTla arian iseTi<br />

adamianebi, romlebic zustad ase<br />

fiqroben evropul demokratiaze.<br />

„ocnebis” gundSi Semavalma<br />

„radikal maJoritarTa” frTam<br />

erTgvari analizi moamzada imisa,<br />

Tu rogori kargia maJoritaruli<br />

sistema da rogori cudia<br />

proporciuli. am analiziT didxans<br />

ar gadagRliT, ubralod, misi<br />

pirveli gverdis pirvel winanadadebas<br />

gagacnobT. analizis avtori<br />

SesavalSi ambobs:<br />

„qveynis stabiluri ganviTarebisTvis<br />

Zalian mniSvnelovania<br />

politikuri Zalebis swori da<br />

dabalansebuli koncentracia.<br />

proporciuli saarCevno sistema<br />

ki aRniSnulis Semaferxebel faqtors<br />

warmoadgens da amis TvalsaCino<br />

magaliTia fineTi, belgia,<br />

CexeTi, israeli, espaneTi da sxva<br />

qveynebi”(!).<br />

ras vizamT, arian adamianebi,<br />

romlebic fiqroben, rom fineTsa<br />

da israelSi politikuri Zalebis<br />

balansi darRveulia, samagierod,<br />

CvenTan yvelaferi kargadaa.<br />

ufro zustad, maradiuli ma-<br />

JoritarebisTvisaa yvelaferi kargad<br />

da am maradiuli parlamentarobis<br />

dakargva adardebT mxolod.<br />

rac Seexeba maJoritarul sistemas<br />

da, zogadad, maJoritarizms,<br />

aravin saubrobs imaze, rom<br />

es sistema erTmniSvnelovnad cudia<br />

da miuRebeli. amas veravin<br />

ityvis. maJoritaruli sistema<br />

moqmedebs SeerTebul StatebSi,<br />

inglisSi da kidev uamrav qveyanaSi,<br />

magram arsad ar xdeba is,<br />

rac xdeba CvenTan. arsad is partia,<br />

romelic amomrCevlis 48%-s<br />

iRebs, ar Sedis parlamentSi 78%-<br />

iT. warmoudgenelia nebismieri<br />

civilizebuli qveynisTvis, rom<br />

partiam, romelmac umravlesobisTvis<br />

saWiro 50%-ic ki ver<br />

daagrova, parlamentSi sakonstitucio<br />

umravlesobiT aRmoCndes.<br />

es yvelaferi mxolod saqarTveloSia<br />

SesaZlebeli, sadac erTpalatiani<br />

parlamenti gvaqvs Sereuli<br />

saarCeevo sistemiT, 77<br />

proporciuli da 73 maJoritari<br />

deputatiT. ar aqvs mmarTvel<br />

gunds amomrCevelTa umravlesobis<br />

mxardaWera? ra problemaa...<br />

ager ar arian maJoritarebi? maTi<br />

meSveobiT yovelTvis geyoleba<br />

saparlamento umravlesoba,<br />

xolo Tu Sublis ZarRvsac gaiwyvet,<br />

ise rogorc es „ocnebam” qna<br />

bolo arCevnebze, yvela maJoritarsac<br />

moigeb da sakonstitucio<br />

umravlesobasac daiTrev. ai, esaa<br />

maJoritaruli sistemis qarTuli<br />

gansakuTrebuloba. esaa is naklovaneba,<br />

romlis gamoc, ukve,<br />

wlebia, usamarTlo saarCevno garemo<br />

gvaqvs. aseTi sistemis gamo<br />

dakarges adamianebma saarCevno<br />

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N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

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`politikur kuluarebSi xma gavrcelda, rom `ocneba~ proporciul<br />

sistemaze gadasvlas mxolod 2024 wlisTvis gegmavso. es Tu simarTlea, am<br />

Temaze saubars xelisuflebasTan, saerTod, azri ekargeba. amiT `ocnebis~<br />

pozicia kidev ufro gaugebari xdeba. Tu xedav, rom proporciuli sistema<br />

ufro samarTliania da qveynis ganviTarebas is ufro waadgeba, ratom<br />

gadagaqvs Svidi wlis mere? da Tu fiqrob, rom ar varga da ar gamogadgeba,<br />

Svidi wlis merec rad ginda? Zalauneburad giCndeba eWvi, morig<br />

eSmakobasTan xom ar gvaqvs saqme? rCeba SegrZneba, rom xelisufleba<br />

pasuxismgeblobis oponentebze akidebas cdilobs~<br />

procesisadmi ndoba. amitomacaa,<br />

rom yvela revolucia Tu areuloba<br />

arCevnebs ukavSirdeba.<br />

adamianebi xedaven, rom arCevnebiT<br />

araferi icvleba, icvleba<br />

mxolod kombliT, quCiT da<br />

revoluciiT. amitomac davdivarT<br />

mudmivad am wreze da verc<br />

vxvdebiT, raa Sesacvleli. raxan<br />

demokratia avirCieT, maSin xelisuflebasac<br />

da xalxsac unda<br />

esmodes, rom xelisuflebis mTavari<br />

wyaro xalxia. anu xalxi iZleva<br />

Zalauflebas da akeTebs amas<br />

arCevnebis gziT. normalur qveyanaSi<br />

adamianma icis, rom miva ar-<br />

Cevnebze, gamoxatavs Tavis nebas<br />

da Tu xelisufleba moswons, mas<br />

datovebs, xolo Tu ar moswons,<br />

gadairCevs. aseT dros aravis<br />

uCndeba protesti da quCaSi gamosvlis<br />

survili. aseT dros adamianebi<br />

mSvidad da moTminebiT<br />

elian arCevnebs da darwmunebulni<br />

arian, rom arCevnebis dRes<br />

swored isini gadawyveten, vis mianiWon<br />

Zalaufleba. sanam qarTvel<br />

ers samarTliani arCevnebis<br />

mimarT aseTi rwmena ar gauCndeba,<br />

mSvidobaze ocnebac zedmetia.<br />

da romel mSvidobazea saubari,<br />

roca saqarTveloSi oc weliwadze<br />

metia, yvelani sapirispiros<br />

vxedavT? anu vxedavT, rom amomrCevelTa<br />

umravlesobis mier gamoxatuli<br />

neba arasdros emTxveva<br />

parlamentSi sabolood Camoyalibebul<br />

suraTs. amomrCeveli<br />

xedavs, rom rogori arCevanic ar<br />

unda gaakeTos amomrCevelTa umravlesobam,<br />

parlamentSic da sakrebuloSic<br />

imarjvebs is, visac<br />

amomrCevelTa umciresobam dau-<br />

Wira mxari.<br />

magaliTebi sakmarisze meti<br />

gvaqvs: 2008 wlis saparlamento<br />

arCevnebze „nacionalebma” 59%<br />

miiRes, magram maJoritaruli sistemis<br />

wyalobiT parlamentSi<br />

80%-iT Sevidnen; maSin roca unda<br />

hyolodaT 88 deputati da mxolod<br />

saparlamento umravlesoba,<br />

hyavdaT 120 deputati da sakonstitucio<br />

umravlesoba. saboloo<br />

jamSi, am usamarTlo saarCevno<br />

sistemis bralia is uamravi<br />

absurduli sakonstitucio<br />

cvlileba, romlis meSveobiTac<br />

saakaSvili, praqtikulad, monarqi<br />

gaxda. igive moxda 2014 wlis<br />

adgilobriv arCevnebze. „ocnebam”<br />

TbilisSi amomrCevlis mxolod<br />

44% miiRo, magram maJoritarebis<br />

meSveobiT mandatebis 76% miisakuTra.<br />

da yvelaze TvalsaCino<br />

magaliTi: 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />

arCevnebia. „ocnebam” xmebis<br />

mxolod 48% miiRo, anu saparlamento<br />

umravlesobisTvisac ki<br />

arasakmarisi raodenoba, magram<br />

yvela maJoritaris mogebiT (es<br />

Sublis ZarRvis gawyvetis Sesani-<br />

Snavi magaliTia) mandatebis 78%<br />

miiTvisa. Sedegad umciresobiT<br />

mxardaWerilma partiam sakonstitucio<br />

umravlesoba Seqmna.<br />

aseTi magaliTebis Semxedvares,<br />

aRar giCndeba kiTxvebi, ratom<br />

aqvs qarTvel ers arCevnebisadmi<br />

amxela undobloba. am undoblobas<br />

da ukmayofilebas<br />

aRviveben Tavad es xavsmodebuli<br />

maJoritarebi, romlebic wlebia,<br />

deputatis mandats yiduloben<br />

da erTmaneTs mxolod imaSi ejibrebian,<br />

vin mexuTedaa maJoritari<br />

da vin _ meeqvsed, saqmes ki<br />

arc erTi akeTebs. umetesoba maTgani<br />

sxdomebzec ar dadis, mikrofonTan<br />

misvlaze xom saerTod<br />

zedmetia saubari. maT absolutur<br />

umravlesobas amomrCevlebi<br />

ar icnoben, radgan arCevis Semdeg<br />

aravis unaxavs Tavis saarCevno<br />

olqSi. ikiTxavT, albaT, rogor<br />

axerxeben aseTi adamianebi<br />

maJoritarul arCevnebSi gamarjvebaso?..<br />

rogor da Zalian martivad:<br />

erTma saarCevno olqma er-<br />

Ti maJoritari unda airCios, amitom<br />

xelisufleba, umetes SemTxvevaSi,<br />

cdilobs, rom maJoritarobis<br />

kandadatad finansurad Se-<br />

Zlebuli adamiani SearCios, upiratesoba<br />

eniWebaT biznesmenebs.<br />

aseTi kandidatebi Tavis saarCevno<br />

kampanias Tavadve daafinanseben<br />

da xelisuflebis jibes tvir-<br />

Tad ar daawvebian. es biznesmenebi,<br />

ZiriTadad, Tbilisidan igzavnebian<br />

raionebSi. sakmarisia, am<br />

raionTan warmoSoba mainc akavSirebdeT.<br />

xelisuflebis kandidatebs,<br />

yvela Tavis konkurentTan<br />

mimarTebiT, kampaniis dawyebidanve<br />

15-20-procentiani upiratesoba<br />

aqvs. finansebs rom SeveSvaT,<br />

maT ukan uzarmazari administraciuli<br />

resursi dgas: esaa guberniebi,<br />

gamgeobebi, samxareo policiebi,<br />

skolebi, saarCevno administraciebi<br />

da a. S. yvela sabiujeto<br />

dawesebuleba. da rac mTavaria,<br />

specsamsaxurebi, romlebic<br />

yovelTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovan<br />

samuSaos asruleben arCevnebSi.<br />

aseTi upiratesobiT Znelia,<br />

ar moigo, xolo imasac Tu<br />

davamatebT, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

amomrCeveli xSirad xaTriT iZleva<br />

xmas, ubralod, SeuZlebelia<br />

(Tumca gamonaklisi SemTxvevebi<br />

mainc gvinaxavs).<br />

aseTi usamarTlo meTodebiT<br />

gamarjvebuli maJoritarebis mimarT<br />

ukmayofilebas, Tavis<br />

droze, TviT biZina ivaniSvilic<br />

ver malavda. igi maT „feodalebs”<br />

uwodebda, rac saarCevno sistemis<br />

cvlilebis imeds aCenda, magram<br />

molodini mcdari aRmoCnda.<br />

rogorc ki biZinamac da mTelma<br />

„ocnebamac” dainaxa, rom reitingi<br />

katastrofulad dauvardaT,<br />

gadarCenis erTaderT gzad isev<br />

maJoritaruli sistemis Senar-<br />

Cuneba gadawyvites.<br />

avad Tu kargad, dRemde movaRwieT,<br />

magram ukve „ocnebaSic”<br />

xvdebian, rom mudmivad ase gagr-<br />

Zeleba ar SeiZleba. miT umetes,<br />

rom ukve yvela am saarCevno sistemis<br />

Secvlas iTxovs. iTxoven<br />

politikuri partiebi, iTxoven<br />

arasamTavroboebi da rac Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovania, iTxoven saerTa-<br />

Soriso organizaciebi. evrosab-<br />

Wo ukve saqarTvelosTan dakav-<br />

Sirebul rezoluciebSi wers da<br />

migviTiTebs, rom gadadiT proporciul<br />

sistemazeo. amas garda,<br />

yvela mudmivad axsenebs „ocnebas”,<br />

rom dRevandeli sistemis<br />

gauqmeba maTi winasaarCevno dapireba<br />

iyo 2012 wels.<br />

da, ai, rogorc iqna, xelisuflebas<br />

sanukvari fraza aRmoxda:<br />

„gTavazobT, gadavideT proporciul<br />

sistemaze”. neta ki aq daesrulebina<br />

da ar eTqva, rom yvela<br />

gadaunawilebeli mandati mainc<br />

me unda waviRoo. rogorc Cans,<br />

„ocnebaSi” ver xvdebian, rom usamarTlobis<br />

usamarTlobiT Canacvleba<br />

Sedegs ar iZleva. usamar-<br />

Tloba rCeba da mSvidobasac kvlav<br />

safrTxe emuqreba.<br />

xelisuflebis mier Tavisive<br />

iniciativis gaufasureba amiT ar<br />

dasrulebula. politikur kuluarebSi<br />

xma gavrcelda, rom „ocneba”<br />

proporciul sistemaze gadasvlas<br />

mxolod 2024 wlisTvis<br />

gegmavso. es Tu simarTlea, am Temaze<br />

saubars xelisuflebasTan,<br />

saerTod, azri ekargeba. amiT<br />

„ocnebis” pozicia ki kidev ufro<br />

gaugebari xdeba. Tu xedav, rom<br />

proporciuli sistema ufro samarTliania<br />

da qveynis ganviTarebas<br />

is ufro waadgeba, ratom gadagaqvs<br />

Svidi wlis mere? da Tu<br />

fiqrob, rom ar varga da ar gamogadgeba,<br />

Svidi wlis merec rad<br />

ginda?<br />

Zalauneburad giCndeba eWvi,<br />

morig eSmakobasTan xom ar gvaqvs<br />

saqme? rCeba SegrZneba, rom xelisufleba<br />

pasuxismgeblobis<br />

oponentebze akidebas cdilobs.<br />

„ar gindaT Cemi SemoTavazebuli,<br />

proporciuli sistema, maSin<br />

avdgebi da maJoritaruls davtoveb”.<br />

es xelisufleba aseTi ramis<br />

mTqmeli rom aris, imave sakonstitucio<br />

sxdomaze gamoCnda,<br />

roca margvelaSvilis gancxadebebiT<br />

ganawyenebuli umravlesoba<br />

daimuqra, Tu gavbrazdiT, prezidentis<br />

pirdapiri wesiT arCeva<br />

2023-Si ki ara, momaval welsve<br />

gavauqmebTo. amis Semdeg vis gaukvirdeba,<br />

rom proporciul sistemaze<br />

gadausvleloba „ocnebam”<br />

opozicias gadaabralos.<br />

isic gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />

saparlamento umravlesoba mudmivad<br />

apelirebs Tavissave maJoritarebze<br />

da gvafrTxilebs, _ ar<br />

dagaviwydeT, rom maJoritarebi<br />

proporciul sistemas mxars ar<br />

uWereno. SegaxsenebT: 150-kacian<br />

parlamentSi 73 maJoritari zis<br />

da Tu maT sakonstitucio cvlilebas<br />

mxari ar dauWires, proeqti<br />

ver gava. ase rom, „ocnebaSi”<br />

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karts maSin gaaTamaSeben. Tumca<br />

rogorac ar unda fiqrobdnen ma-<br />

Joritarebi, yvelas kargad moexseneba,<br />

rom saparlamento umravlesobaSi<br />

myofi 117-ve deputati<br />

ise moiqceva, rogorc amas biZina<br />

ivaniSvili gadawyvets. Sesabamisad,<br />

raoden sagangaSodac ar unda<br />

JRerdes, saarCevno sistemis bedic<br />

erTi adamianis xelSia.<br />

xelisuflebis daTqmebi da<br />

moTxovnebi arc amiT amowurula.<br />

proporciuli sistemis sanacvlod,<br />

xelisufleba aseve iTxovs<br />

saarCevno blokebis akrZalvas,<br />

anu „ocneba”, romelic xelisuflebaSi<br />

blokiT movida, dRes<br />

blokebisa da koaliciebis akrZalvas<br />

iTxovs. saqarTvelos uaxles<br />

istorias Tu gadavxedavT,<br />

yvela xelisufleba xelisuflebaSi<br />

blokiT movida. rogorc<br />

Cans, „ocneba” SiSma Seipyro da<br />

guli uskdeba, rom masac partiebisgan<br />

Seqmnili axali bloki<br />

CamoaSorebs xelisuflebas. amitomac<br />

gadawyvites, Tavi daizRvion<br />

da blokebisa da koaliciebis<br />

Seqmna konstituciiT akrZalon.<br />

mizezad ki imas asaxeleben, rom<br />

partiebis ganviTarebas unda SevuwyoT<br />

xelio. anu erTmaneTs<br />

Seerwyan da gaZlierdebiano. es<br />

Tu aseTi progresuli da qveynisTvis<br />

sasargeblo qmedeba iyo,<br />

ratom ar Seerwynen TavianTi koaliciis<br />

wevrebs, gaugebaria.<br />

yvela im qveyanaSi, sadac blokebi<br />

akrZalulia da arCevnebSi<br />

partiebi mxolod individualurad<br />

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es imisTvisaa saWiro, rom<br />

politikuri partiebi saerTod<br />

ar gaqrnen da maTi optimaluri<br />

raodenoba, anu sazogadoebis<br />

mier met-naklebad mxardaWerili<br />

partiebi, parlamentSi Sesvlas<br />

axerxebdnen. es, sul mcire, imisTvisaa<br />

saWiro, rom politikuri<br />

brZola mxolod sakanonmdeblo<br />

organoSi mimdinareobdes da ara<br />

_ quCaSi. anu qveynis stabilurobisTvis<br />

da mdgradobisTvisaa<br />

saWiro. „ocneba” ki gvTavazobs<br />

blokebis gauqmebas barieris dawevis<br />

gareSe. es ki, martivad, rom<br />

avxsnaT, niSnavs: parlamentSi mudam<br />

unda viyoT Cven, „ocneba” da<br />

Cveni komfortuli opozicia „nacmoZraoba”.<br />

imavdroulad, yvela<br />

gadaunawilebeli mandati Cven<br />

unda waviRoT da mudam umravlesobaSi<br />

unda viyoT. yvela danar-<br />

Cenma ki taSi dagvikariT, radgan<br />

Tqveni moTxovna SevasruleT da<br />

proporciul sistemas mxari davuWireTo.<br />

ai, es aris is, rasac xelisufleba<br />

danarCen qveyanas sTavazobs.<br />

erTi mankieri da danaSaulebrivi<br />

sistemis meoriT Canacvlebas.<br />

dabolos, saarCevno sistemis<br />

cvlilebas maRali politikuri<br />

konsensusi sWirdeba. amis gareSe<br />

arc erTi saerTaSoriso organizacia,<br />

pirvel rigSi, veneciis komisia,<br />

pozitiur Sefasebas mas ar<br />

miscems. qveyanaSi ki isev dapirispireba<br />

iqneba saarCevno garemosTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, xolo sazogadoebaSi<br />

arCevnebis SedegebTan<br />

mimarTebiT kvlav undobloba<br />

iarsebebs.<br />

ase rom, ar iqneba samarTlianoba,<br />

ar iqneba mSvidoba!!!<br />

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14<br />

deputati is iqneboda, magram<br />

ase ar moxda...<br />

rusia gadamterebulia Sonias,<br />

imitom rom rusia ,,qar-<br />

Tul ocnebas” uWers mxars...<br />

samegreloSi „ocnebis” momxreebi<br />

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anTia „qronika+”-Tan imasac ambobs, rom Tu levan Sonia misi<br />

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„qronika+”-Tan lali anTia<br />

ambobs:<br />

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xSiri urTierTobebi ki mqonda,<br />

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primitiuli iyo, magram, etyoba,<br />

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tenderebSi xelis faTuri<br />

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aris erTi piri, romlis sa-<br />

SualebiTac mipirispirdeba da,<br />

Turme, Cemze ambobs, rom levan<br />

Sonia ise ar momeSveba, cixeSi<br />

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var gareuli, Tu tenderebSi<br />

vafaTureb xels?!<br />

levan Sonias minda, vkiTxo,<br />

_ ratom unda damiWiros Soniam?<br />

Tu am milebze (zugdidis<br />

raionis sofel ruxis teritoriaze<br />

miwidan amoTxrili wyalsadenis<br />

milebi, romlebic jar-<br />

Tad gaiyida, _ red.) saubars ar<br />

Sewyvets, ilaparakon, ramdenic<br />

undaT.<br />

daWeris ar meSinia, radgan<br />

sufTa var. rogor SeZlebda<br />

lali anTia trailerebiT milebis<br />

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policiis ufrosi TviTon iyo?<br />

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gzas da rogor SeZlebda anTia<br />

amis gakeTebas? da Tu ase emoxda,<br />

Sonia ki ara, me vyofilvar<br />

samxareo policiis ufrosi...<br />

Sonias minda mivmarTo: Semi-<br />

Zlia, yvela braldebas vupasuxo,<br />

radgan yvela sasamarTlom<br />

gamamarTla, amitom arafris me-<br />

Sinia da arc ukan dasaxevi maqvs.<br />

_ am etapze raime konkret-<br />

ulis dasaxeleba SegiZliaT,<br />

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mentebs gamoaqveynebT?<br />

_ levan Sonias konkretuli<br />

adamianebis sikvdilSi vdeb<br />

brals...<br />

gaixsenos gia Wania (yofili<br />

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Semdeg ruseTSi gardaicvala,<br />

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Zimarze misvlac gauWirda Sonias,<br />

radgan ojaxi kiTxvis ni-<br />

Sans svamda, rom ar mieSvaT panaSvidze...<br />

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ori wlis ganmavlobaSi kedlebs<br />

xexavda misi meuRle, rom<br />

mkvdari mainc moesvenebinaT is<br />

kaci...<br />

gubernators exveweboda, magram<br />

gubernatori mis Svils<br />

aSinebda, romelsac mere cirozi<br />

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radgan levan Sonia am<br />

biWs ibarebda, _ dedaSeni ga-<br />

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_ ratom aSinebda, okupirebul<br />

afxazeTSi momxdar amba-<br />

vTan levan Sonias ra xeli<br />

hqonda?<br />

_ diaxac, levan Sonia am danaSaulis<br />

Camdenebs mfarvelobda...<br />

is qali xelisuflebasTan<br />

Sexvedras cdilobda da Sonia<br />

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is qali yvelafers ambobda,<br />

visi gakeTebuli iyo es, magram<br />

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imitom rom mas<br />

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van Sonias ukavSirebdiT, Tu<br />

sworad maxsovs...<br />

_ diax, axlave mogaxsenebT:<br />

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Cevnebze me gamovarTvi, fulis<br />

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(msgavsi SemTxveva ara marto<br />

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sadac „qarTulma ocnebam” ukve<br />

dasaxelebuli maJoritarobis<br />

kandidati Secvala, _ red.).<br />

is maJoritarobas hpirdeboda<br />

kaxa rusiasac (senakeli bi-<br />

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mrgval<br />

magidasTan ar<br />

dajdeba, umZimes<br />

braldebebs<br />

dokumenturad<br />

davumtkiceb~<br />

znesmeni, romelic adgilze<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis” Stabs xelm-<br />

ZRvanelobda, _ red.), Tavis moadgiles.<br />

kaxa rusia kaxi kalaZis warmomadgenelia<br />

da amaSi danaSauls<br />

ver vxedav, magram Sonia<br />

ambobda, rusia kalaZem Semomtenao.<br />

es levan Soniam miTxra:<br />

erTi naxevari weli ki vajanjle,<br />

mainc daminiSnes, magram<br />

axlos ar vikareb, Zalian kargad<br />

vici, vinc ariso. imasac<br />

uTxra, rom senakis maJoritari<br />

levan Sonia<br />

Txovnelad samegreloSi Tbilisidan,<br />

me maSin aravisTan mivsulvar...<br />

biZinas CemTan urTierToba<br />

unda hqonoda, magram viRacam<br />

es ver aitana. me mainc gazeTiT<br />

mivmarTavdi da saqmis kursSi<br />

vayenebdi, rasac aq akeTebdnen<br />

as Robes gadamxtari daportirebuli<br />

„nacionalebi”.<br />

ambavi miutanes, miSas bodiSs<br />

uxdiso, ra vTqvi araswori?<br />

iqneb, bodiSi gagvixdes mosaxdeli<br />

miSasTvis-meTqi da<br />

marTalic vTqvi:<br />

Tuki damnaSaveebs datovebdnen,<br />

iseTebs daabrunebdnen,<br />

2008-Si rom gaagdes kaci, saqarTveloSi<br />

rom ver CamoesvlebodaT,<br />

devnilebis fuli rom<br />

Wames, mere „nacionalebma” rom<br />

gayares, aseT xalxs Tu daniSnavdnen<br />

yvela sferoSi da damnaSaveebs<br />

Tu datovebdnen da<br />

samarTlianoba Tu ar aRdgeboda,<br />

maSin ra azri hqonda? amitomac<br />

vTqvi, rom iqneb, miSas-<br />

Tan bodiSi gvqondes mosaxdeli-meTqi<br />

da amas sul vityvi...<br />

Zalian vnanob, rom me odes-<br />

Rac levan Sonias vedeqi gverdiT.<br />

Sonias aq ar aqvs avtoriteti,<br />

magram ar vici, es xelisufleba<br />

ratom icavs. gamoasworon<br />

es Secdoma da mogvaSoron<br />

es kaci.<br />

rac levan Soniam danaSauli<br />

Caidina, is me rom gamekeTebina,<br />

cimbirSi gamiSvebdnen...<br />

_ TviTon gubernatorTan<br />

Sexvedra ar gicdiaT? miT<br />

umetes, icnobdiT da gverdi-<br />

Tac edeqiT, rogorc ambobT...<br />

_ ar micdia, magram Tqveni<br />

gazeTis meSveobiT levan Sonias<br />

minda, mivmarTo: kidev erT<br />

Sanss vaZlev, rom mrgval magidas<br />

mivusxdeT, davuZaxoT yvelas<br />

_ samegrelos regionuli<br />

sus-is ufross, „ocnebis” centraluri<br />

ofisidan warmomadgenels,<br />

„ocnebis” deputats,<br />

samegrelos yvela raionis deputats,<br />

sakrebulos Tavmjdomareebs<br />

da malaparakos pirdapir<br />

yvela detali imis Sesaxeb,<br />

2012 wlidan dawyebuli, roca<br />

Sonia samxareo policiaSi movida,<br />

dRemde rom gubernatoria<br />

_ Cems gakeTebul saqmeze, Cems<br />

Tavdadebaze da iman ilaparakos<br />

Tavis damsaxurebaze. dajdes da<br />

melaparakos vaJkacurad, iq<br />

gairkveva, ra gaukeTebia...<br />

muxlze dawerili informaciebi<br />

rom gadis zugdididan,<br />

policielebi amboben (bevri<br />

TanamSromlisgan vici), rom<br />

muxlze viwerT informacias,<br />

magidas da skams Cven vin gvaRirsebso<br />

da aseTi informacia<br />

rom gadis zugdididan, imitom<br />

gvaqvs saqme kargad...<br />

_ rogor ggoniaT, ratom<br />

unda dagTanxmdeT am Sexve-<br />

draze gubernatori?<br />

_ Tu levan Sonia amas ar<br />

izams, maSin me sajarod vilaparakeb<br />

Cems simarTleze da<br />

furclebs avafrialeb.<br />

Tu im mrgval magidasTan<br />

saubari Sedgeba, iqac davamtkiceb<br />

Cems simarTles, pirdapir<br />

davadgebi tabaRuaze, ruzgen<br />

Cuxuazec...<br />

14 N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.


ezo SatakiSvili<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

xom gaxsovT sulxan-sabas „glaxaki da qila erbo”? Tu ar<br />

gaxsovT, problema araa, gasul kviras mainc naxavdiT mis Tanamedrove<br />

versias, warmodgenils qibarisa da qila erbos sax-<br />

iT. diax, yvelaferi ise iyo, rogorc sulxan-sabas uweria.<br />

Seikriba uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

9 mosamarTle. SeisunTqes da<br />

erTxmad, erTi amosunTqviT, „rusTavi<br />

2" miakuTvnes qibar xalvaSs.<br />

qibarmac hpova ra es qila erbo,<br />

ise rom gadawyvetilebac ar aeRo,<br />

aiRo es qila erbo, sakidarSi<br />

joxi gauyara da mxarze Seido. gaudga<br />

gzas da daiwyo xmamaRla ocneba,<br />

_ Tu rogor gaunawilebs wilebs<br />

aqimiZes da dvals, rogor<br />

daniSnavs direqtorad dvals. am<br />

ocneba-ocnebaSi muStaric gamou-<br />

Cndeba, gvaramia SesTavazebs, _<br />

„rusTavi 2" koleqtivs mihyideo.<br />

qibari, romelic araa qibari da<br />

aris biZina, qila erbos SeaTamaSebs,<br />

_ gvaramia ar aris gvaramia,<br />

gvaramia miSaa, Torem mivyididio<br />

da ocnebas ganagrZobs.<br />

situacia marTlac rom dramatuli<br />

iqneba qveyanaSi _ ra ginda,<br />

rom qna? Zala aRmarTs xnavs _<br />

uzenaesma instanciam qveyanaSi<br />

pluralizmis erTaderTi garanti<br />

aiRo da unamusod miakuTvna qveynis<br />

araformaluri mmarTvelis<br />

„kliCkad” qceul qibar xalvaSs.<br />

qveyanas unda am monapovris dacva,<br />

magram rogor? ramden xans<br />

uyarauleb telekompanias ezoSi?<br />

ra garantiaa, rom arc SeiWran iq,<br />

axali menejmenti arc Seva, ise gadaibarebs<br />

yvela berkets da moqmedi<br />

menejmenti ras izams? ramden<br />

xans gaZlebs kompania sabanko<br />

angariSebis, saxsrebis gareSe,<br />

romc ar gauTiSon mauwyebloba?<br />

sadaa gamosavali, quCis aqciebSi?<br />

sxva gza marTlac ar rCeba, magram<br />

am quCis aqciebiTac rogor ginda,<br />

rom rame Secvalo? ra berketiT,<br />

ra meqanizmiT? im dResve iyo<br />

naxsenebi strasburgis sasamarTlo,<br />

magram gaiTvaliswinebdi ra<br />

mis xangrZliv procedurebs... isev<br />

sasowarkveTa dageufleboda. swored<br />

am procedurebis xangrZlivobiT<br />

daimedebulma gadahkra ivaniSvilmac<br />

im Rames stafilos na-<br />

Juri da kmayofilma misca Zili im<br />

lamaz sizmrebs, sadac koSmarad<br />

aRar Caesmoda cxriani kurieris<br />

mauwyebeli hangebi.<br />

magram ra moxda? moxda sruliad<br />

uprecedento ram. qibara da<br />

biZina rom hari-haris iZaxdnen da<br />

joxi gaiqnies _ qoTani gatyda da<br />

erbo daiqca. strasburgis morige<br />

mosamarTlem oligarqs da mis<br />

qibaras sulxan-sabas Segoneba<br />

styorcna strasburgidan:<br />

„Senc Senis gonebiT bevrs rasme<br />

zraxav da gamdidrdebi, magram<br />

aseTi ram gagizraxavs, rome Rv-<br />

Tis ZaliT Sens Tavsac mohSli,<br />

aramc Tu ganzraxuli gaaTao”.<br />

strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />

sasamarTlom uprecedento<br />

gadawyvetileba gamoitana da safuZveli<br />

Cauyara axal precedents.<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlom<br />

SeaCera uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba da saqarTvelos<br />

xelisuflebas aukrZala,<br />

pirdapir mosTxova, ar ganaxorcielos<br />

aranairi RonisZieba,<br />

nebismieri formiT, ra formiTac<br />

ar unda iyos es, romelic gamoiwvevda<br />

saredaqcio politikis<br />

Secvlas. da rac mTavaria, prioriteti<br />

mianiWa am saqmis ganxilvas.<br />

strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />

imdenad Sokis momgvreli<br />

iyo, mTeli qveyana brinjiviT<br />

daibna _ aravin eloda<br />

gadawyvetilebis ase uecrad gamotanas<br />

da Tan aseT gadawyvetilebas.<br />

xalvaSis advokatma saliam<br />

xelebi gaasavsava, uprecedento<br />

SemTxvevaa, Tu aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />

miiRo, jer kidev darwmunebuli<br />

ar var, sanam ar vnaxavo.<br />

ase swrafad strasburgs arasodes<br />

miuRia gadawyvetileba qonebriv<br />

davasTan dakavSirebiT erovnuli<br />

sasamarTlos saboloo gadawyvetilebis<br />

Sesaxebo.<br />

ki iyo dabneuli salia, magram<br />

ar tyuoda. strasburgs marTlac<br />

arasodes miuRia ase swrafad<br />

gadawyvetileba qonebriv davaze,<br />

magram saqmec is iyo, rom es saqme<br />

arc miuCnevia qonebriv davad.<br />

krintic ar dauZravs arc qonebriv<br />

davaze, arc sakuTrebis uflebaze.<br />

aqcenti gakeTda mxolod<br />

gamoxatvis, presis Tavisuflebaze<br />

da saredaqcio politikaSi Caurevlobaze.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, strasburgs<br />

arc presis Tavisuflebis<br />

konteqstSi gamoutania aqamde ase<br />

swrafi gadawyvetileba _ romelime<br />

qveynis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

Sesaxeb. aseT zomas<br />

gamonaklisis saxiT iSviaTad mimarTavs<br />

mxolod maSin, roca saqme<br />

exeba sicocxles, wamebas, deportacias.<br />

evropam presis, gamoxatvis<br />

Tavisufleba sicocxlis uflebas<br />

gautola da amiT aris uprecedento.<br />

mere ra, rom am uprecedento<br />

gadawyvetilebas TviT wulukiani<br />

ebrdRvna da cxens rom veraferi<br />

daaklo, unagirs dauwyo jajguri<br />

_ morige mosamarTlem miiRo erTpirovnuli<br />

gadawyvetileba, ise<br />

rom arc araferi gamouTxovia<br />

Cvengan da arc ukiTxavso.<br />

zviad kvaWantiraZem bevri ifiqra,<br />

qoSi rom ar macvia, ukuRma<br />

rogor vyaroo da nona woworias<br />

ebdRvna. mas daabrales yvelaferi,<br />

eg awyobs saqmeebso. ufro<br />

sworad ki, woworias imazed dascxes,<br />

rom ver mougvara saqme im<br />

morige mosamarTlesTan.<br />

egeni ar Sedian arc qveynis da<br />

arc Cvens mdgomareobaSi da isev<br />

Cven unda SevideT. dameTanxmeT,<br />

rom maTTvis marTlac umZimesi<br />

gadasaxarSi iyo, rac Tavs daatydaT.<br />

egonaT, yvelaferi moagvarmoayomares,<br />

„rusTavi 2" sabolood<br />

aaxies yaramanaSvilebs _<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

aTasjer gayiduli kompaniis ke-<br />

Tilsindisier myidvelebs da uceb<br />

Tavs daatydaT evropis risxva.<br />

evropis risxvis Tavs datexamde<br />

iyo amerikis elCis gancxadeba, axla<br />

amas mohyva aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />

departamentis angariSi, sadac yuradRebis<br />

centrSi swored „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is saqme moeqca, Tanac xelisuflebis<br />

mimarT sakmaod mwvave<br />

SefasebebiT, metic: am angariS-<br />

Si Tavi amoyo TviTon yofilma<br />

premier-ministrma ivaniSvilmac.<br />

aSS-s saxelmwifo departamentis<br />

angariSSi moxvedra rasac ni-<br />

Snavs, miT ufro maSin, roca rame<br />

gabadia gasayini, yvelasTvis naTelia.<br />

biZinas Tu gauyinaven, Torem<br />

me gind Semitane, gind gamomitane,<br />

„sadias” qaTams Tu gamiyinav „marazilkaSi”.<br />

biZinasTvisac Soki iyo, qibarasTvisac,<br />

romelic troleibusiviT<br />

win da ukan dadis germaniidan<br />

saqarTveloSi, egona, gzas baraqa<br />

daayena, qila daemtvra da erbo<br />

daeqca. da marto qibars daemtvra?<br />

vin wils eloda, vin direqtorobas<br />

da vis kidev ukve „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is Jurnalisti da wamyvani<br />

egona Tavi? vin icis, ramdenma naxa<br />

im RamiT sizmarSi Tavi „rusTavi<br />

2"-is mikrofoniT xelSi?<br />

axla imaT ar ikiTxavT, visac<br />

dRevandeli „rusTavi 2" ar swyalobda<br />

da milocvebi daiwyes<br />

qibarTan, im imediT, rom mere mainc<br />

gaixsneboda maTTvis „rusTavi<br />

2"-is ekrani? da ramdenma qna igive,<br />

visac diaxac rom swyalobs da<br />

zedmetadac swyalobs dRevandeli<br />

„rusTavi 2"? CaTvales, amaTi<br />

dro wavidao da miegebnen axal patrons<br />

da mwyalobels da uceb es<br />

strasburgi!<br />

gadaWarbebuli ar iqneba Tu<br />

vityviT, rom es yvelaferi am xelisuflebisTvisac,<br />

misi momxreebisTvisac<br />

da am kompaniis axali<br />

patronis xelSi gadasvliT merkantilurad<br />

dainteresebulebisTvisac<br />

cis Camoqceva iyo.<br />

axla xavss eWidebian, rom 8<br />

marts es SeCereba SeCerdeba da<br />

saqmis ganxilvis dasrulebamde<br />

aRar gagrZeldeba. wulukians imedi<br />

aqvs, rom kolegiurad sxva<br />

gadawyvetilebas miiReben.<br />

unda, isev Cven gavugoT, ra<br />

qnan, aba, xarakirs xom ar gaikeTeben?<br />

sikvdilamde vis mouklavs<br />

Tavi kacsa mecniersa?<br />

sxvebi ufro Sors wavidnen da<br />

qibari da qila erbo<br />

im morige mosamarTlis TviTnebobaze<br />

alaparakdnen. zogma lamis<br />

abjari aisxa da strasburgSi<br />

gaiqca im mosamarTlis asaCexad.<br />

gamoCndnen samarTlis doqtorebic,<br />

romlebic beselias registr-<br />

Si gahkivian, rom im mosamarTlem<br />

xelyo saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

avtoriteti (aseTic<br />

hqonia, Turme, nu ityviT), imitom<br />

rom SeCereba ise daudgenia, rom<br />

sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba arc<br />

gamouTxovia. metic, im mosamar-<br />

Tlem, Turme, Cveni suverenitetic<br />

xelyo da Cvens Sinaur saqmeeb-<br />

Si Caeria, qonebrivi dava TviTneburad<br />

gadaiyvana politikur formatSi.<br />

araerT aseT sasowarkveTil<br />

gancxadebas moismendiT am dReeb-<br />

Si, simwrisgan rom naperwklebi<br />

scvivaT. iseTi gaveSebiT lanZRaven<br />

strasburgs, evropas, ukve<br />

daaviwydaT, rom wina dRiT vizaliberalizacias<br />

zeimobdnen. evropaSi<br />

undaT, oRond gruzinulad,<br />

Tavisi wesebiT.<br />

ai, koba narCemaSvili ise aiWra,<br />

ukve imasRa ocnebobs, _ mTavaria,<br />

mxareTa uflebebi iyos absoluturad<br />

garantirebuli nebismier<br />

instanciaSio.<br />

mas mxareebad isev aqeT „rus-<br />

Tavi 2", yaramanaSvilebi da iqiT<br />

xalvaSi da imisi „panorama” hgonia.<br />

xalvaSi strasburgSi aRarafer<br />

SuaSia. iq mxareebi arian „rusTavi<br />

2" da is, vinc manamdec realurad<br />

iyo mxare am davaSi _ saxelmwifo.<br />

narCemaSvils ki ara, ager, saliasac<br />

isev mxare hgonia Tavi am<br />

saqmeSi. dgas da xavss eWideba, _<br />

mxolod ramdenime dRiT imitom<br />

SeCerda, rom strasburgi Cveni<br />

mxaris interessac iTvaliswinebso.<br />

ra ginda, rom qna?<br />

TviTon xalvaSi iseT Rrma<br />

tragizmSia, jerac ver gamorkveula<br />

da isev butbutebs, _ telekompaniaSi<br />

xarjebi gaberilia da<br />

imaze meti TanamSromelia, vidre<br />

saWiroao. kidev ver gaigo, rom<br />

erbo daeqca...<br />

Tina xidaSeli? jer kidev wina<br />

dRiT, vidre strasburgi verdiqts<br />

gamoitanda, kvlav Tavis<br />

Cvenebas awveboda, rom es or ker-<br />

Zo subieqts Soris qonebrivi<br />

davaa. gvamcnobda kidec, _ yaramanaSvilebs<br />

ver vigloveb, Tu ginda,<br />

CamqoleTo.<br />

Tinas Semxedvare, isev sulxansaba<br />

gagaxsendeboda, amjerad „ku<br />

da morieli”... ase daufasa amagi<br />

gvaramias da „rusTavi 2"-s. is yovelTvis<br />

iyo ganebivrebuli „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is yuradRebiT. kargad<br />

gaixseneT winasaarCevno periodi<br />

da kargad gamoTvaleT, imsaxurebda<br />

Tu ara misi partiis reitingi<br />

imxela yuradRebas, ramdenic<br />

hqonda? magram ra, daufasa? ityviT,<br />

ra, magis gamo simarTles xom<br />

ar Seaqcevda zurgso. magram sadaa<br />

simarTle? strasburgis gadawyvetilebis<br />

Semdeg? gamovida tyavis<br />

Savi xelTaTmanebiT, es tyavis<br />

xelTaTmanebi gaasavsava da gvamcno,<br />

strasburgma rom aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />

miiRo, es sulac ar<br />

niSnavs, rom Cveni qveynis sasamarTloSi<br />

Rrma problemebia, ase-<br />

Ti gadawyvetilebebi sxva qveynis<br />

saqmeebzec gamoaqvT, aseTi rame<br />

yvela qveyanas emarTebao, britanel<br />

mosamarTleebsac eSlebaT<br />

xandaxan da amitomac arsebobs es<br />

sasamarTloo. ra Tqma unda, is<br />

ver uaryo, rom strasburgma sakuTrebis<br />

ufleba arc axsena, aqcenti<br />

presis Tavisuflebaze gaakeTa<br />

da axali precedenti Seqmna.<br />

isic gvibrZana, radgan SeCereba<br />

presis Tavisuflebis gamo gaake-<br />

Ta da ara sakuTrebis uflebis<br />

gamo, mosalodnelia, rom am SeCerebas<br />

gaagrZelebso. mokled, firfita<br />

aTamaSa, magram es yvelaferi<br />

kidev Jurnali iyo, kinoklasika is<br />

gaxldaT, Tu rogor gadatalRgadmotalRa<br />

Tavisi myari pozicia<br />

2 subieqts Soris davaze. axlac<br />

mimaCnia, rom es iyo 2 kerZo subieqts<br />

Soris dava da darwmunebuli<br />

viyavi, momCivnis damarcxebiT<br />

dasruldeboda, magram raki es<br />

sasamarTlo qibar xalvaSis gamarjvebiT<br />

dasrulda, adasturebs,<br />

rom es iyo xelisuflebis pozicia<br />

da amocanao. Turme, nu ityviT<br />

da wina instanciebi amaSi<br />

dasarwmuneblad sakmarisi ar iyo<br />

_ arc procesis mimdinareobiT da<br />

arc gamotanili gadawyvetilebebiT.<br />

ra ginda, rom Tqva?<br />

ager, prezidentad wodebulma<br />

margvelaSvilma ise Tqva, „rus-<br />

Tavi 2"-is gaCerebiT seriozul<br />

dartymas mivayenebT qarTul demokratiaso,<br />

gegoneba, am demokratias<br />

me vglije, an sxvam da ara<br />

misma daniSnulma qalbatonma<br />

gvenetaZem... niri mainc wagixdes<br />

cota, an, bolo-bolo, Tvali<br />

gageqces qsovisas...<br />

ager, qarafebidan ukan amomxtari<br />

Talagva kolonkeliZis gogo<br />

(lali baduraSvili) Cveuli rixiT<br />

gvamcnobda, bolos da bolos,<br />

xom unda miveCvioT sasamarTlo<br />

gadawyvetilebis damorCilebas,<br />

gvaramia vis dahkargvia, visac mitingi<br />

moundeba, imis Wkuaze unda<br />

iaros sasamarTlomo? axla Zalian<br />

maiteresebs misi mosazreba strasburgis<br />

gadawyvetilebaze. misi<br />

azri uaRresad mniSvnelovania. am<br />

daTo nikuraZes mainc ra daemar-<br />

Ta, mxolod saxelmwifo departamentisa<br />

da ialovecis mosazrebebs<br />

rom gvacnobs, Talagvas gogosac<br />

CaekiTxos, tyuilad amoxta qarafebidan?<br />

raki sulxan-saba ramdenjerme<br />

SevawuxeT, barem isic vTqvaT, rom<br />

unayofod sulac ar damaSvrala<br />

evropaSi siaruliT da misma Zalisxmevam<br />

axla namdvilad gamoiRo<br />

Sedegi da tyuilad egona baton<br />

biZinas, rom evropas saqarTvelo<br />

fexze hkidia. evropam aCvena, vinc<br />

hkidia da sad...<br />

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opoziciuri partiebis gancxadebiT,<br />

„rusTavi 2", _ erTader-<br />

Ti ZiriTadi, mTavrobis mimarT<br />

kritikuli, prodasavluri media<br />

saqarTveloSi _ qveynis de<br />

faqto mmarTvelis, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

mier miTvisebis zRvarzea.<br />

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yofili premierministris,<br />

ivaniSvilisa da<br />

partia „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

mier. 2<br />

marts, samoqalaqo<br />

protestis<br />

miuxedavad, saqarTvelos<br />

uzenaesma<br />

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mflobeloba miaku-<br />

Tvna qibar xalvaSs,<br />

ivaniSvilTan daaxloebul<br />

pirs da „qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis” deputatis<br />

Zmas.<br />

„rusTavi 2"-ze kontrolis<br />

damyarebiT ivaniSvili moipovebs<br />

politikur da sazogadoebriv<br />

cxovrebaze srul kontrols.<br />

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romelic dagmo yvelaze sando<br />

saerTaSoriso da adgilobrivi<br />

samoqalaqo organizaciebis umravlesobam,<br />

evrokavSiris mier<br />

saqarTvelosTvis vizaliberalizaciis<br />

miniWebis momdevno dResve<br />

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xelisuflebis mier evrokavSir-<br />

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valdebulebebs. samive instanciis<br />

sasamarTlom ugulebelyo<br />

damoukidebeli da miuker-<br />

Zoebeli marTlmsajulebis principebi<br />

da marTlmsajuleba warmarTa<br />

mTavrobis agresiuli<br />

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rom pirveli instanciis<br />

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mniSvnelovan faqtorad swored<br />

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rom samarTlebrivad daesabuTebina<br />

gadawyvetileba.<br />

yvelaferma zemoTqmulma<br />

SesaZloa, Seuqcevadad daazianos<br />

saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />

gza da evroatlantikuri integracia.<br />

movuwodebT evroparlaments,<br />

evrokavSirs, evrosab-<br />

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movlenaTa aseTi sagangaSo ganviTarebis<br />

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rom saerTaSoriso Careva<br />

iqneba gadamwyveti saqarTvelo-<br />

Si media Tavisuflebis, sasamar-<br />

Tlo sistemis damoukideblobisa<br />

da qveynis demokratiuli<br />

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ra ziani SeuZlia moutanos<br />

saqarTvelos „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

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ra SeiZleba daemuqros Cveni<br />

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xelisufleba gaTamamda<br />

da sazogadoeba<br />

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soso ciskariSvili _ „damo-<br />

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_ ukve ar arsebobs imis eWvi,<br />

(yvela erTnairad vfiqrobT am<br />

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gvaqvs), Cemi azriT, pasuxi<br />

erTaderTia, _ Cven gvinda demokratiuli<br />

saxelmwifo, Cven<br />

gvinda evropuli da evroatlantikuri<br />

sivrcis mkvidris saxeli,<br />

magram yvelas namdvilad _<br />

ara. amitom, rodesac garkveuli,<br />

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vaRiaroT, rom diax, CvenTan<br />

is Zalebic arian, romlebic dainteresebulni<br />

brZandebian, rom<br />

ar moxdes vizaliberalizacia,<br />

rom ar iyos civilizebul sivrceSi<br />

saqarTvelos ganviTarebis<br />

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imeds, rom sazRvargareT Cvens<br />

yvela partniors kargad aqvs<br />

gaTvlili, nebismieri sanqcia<br />

xelisuflebisa Tu sasamarTlo<br />

sistemis danaSaulebrivi qmedebisa,<br />

vnebs sruliad marTal<br />

xalxs, upirveles yovlisa, Cvens<br />

qveyanaSi. erTi periodi, garkveuli<br />

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rom uamravi xinjiT Catarebuli<br />

saparlamento arCevnebi<br />

yvelam legitimurad CagviTvala<br />

da Cveni qveyana sajarod ar<br />

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xelisuflebis zogierTi warmomadgeneli<br />

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rom mxolod sakuTari interesia<br />

misaRebi da sazogadoeba<br />

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TveloSi aseTi qmedeba upasuxod<br />

arasodes darCenila da amitom,<br />

adre Tu gvian, pasuxi sruliad<br />

mkafio iqneba. es Semarcxveneli<br />

iqneba maTTvis, vinc<br />

dRes gamarjvebas zeimobs. adre<br />

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daerqmeva. qveyana, sadac axalbeda<br />

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parlamentis Tavmjdomaris<br />

simaRlemde, muqaras warmoTqvams<br />

qveynis pirveli piris mimarT<br />

da amunaTebs ara mxolod<br />

mas, aramed mTel mosaxleobas,<br />

rom, Turme, is gadawyvets, miscems<br />

Tu ara xelisufleba saSualebas,<br />

rom moqalaqeebma air-<br />

Cion prezidenti da ara erTma<br />

galaRebulma didma moqalaqem,<br />

nebismier Tavmoyvare qveyanaSi<br />

aseT spikers Tavad parlamenti<br />

dauwyebda ukve impiCmentis gamoyenebis<br />

samzadiss.<br />

_ Tqven rogor xedavT „ru-<br />

sTavi 2"-is Semdgom beds?<br />

_ rac Seexeba „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

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umtkivneulo Sedegi SegveZlo<br />

migveRo im SemTxvevaSi,<br />

Tu fsevdomflobelebi am mar-<br />

Tlac niWier, umaRlesi interesis<br />

mqone satelevizio sivrces<br />

datovebdnen da am arxis damfuZneblebs<br />

saSualebas miscemdnen,<br />

garkveuli uflebebiT dabrunebuli<br />

yofiliyvnen, Tumca<br />

ara rogorc mepatroneni. arxis<br />

aseT mflobelTa raodenoba saocrad<br />

didia da wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

araerTi subieqti iCemebda<br />

am rols, maT Soris, sxvadasxva<br />

organizacia, romelTa<br />

umravlesoba daregistrirebuli<br />

iyo ofSorul zonebSi, rac<br />

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mimaniSnebeli iyo. aseTia<br />

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radgan misi yvelaze aqtiuri<br />

marCenali dRes ukve cocxali<br />

aRar aris da misi mkvlelobis<br />

saqmec ki ar gamoiZia prokuraturam.<br />

rasakvirvelia, „rusTavi<br />

2" SeiZleba iyos dabalansebuli<br />

im siTboTi da siyvaruliT, romelsac<br />

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am arxis mimarT, magram rogorc<br />

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Zala erTmaneTs<br />

aranair lanZRvas ar aklebs,<br />

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SuaSia. unda vecadoT, rom is<br />

nabijebi, romlis gadadgma Sesa-<br />

Zlebelia, ar davizaroT. Tu<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is dRevandeli generaluri<br />

direqtori sakuTar<br />

TavSi ipovis Zalas, romelic<br />

qveyanaSi aRqmulia, rogorc<br />

yofili mmarTveli gundis rupori,<br />

rasakvirvelia, sakuTari<br />

warsulis monaniebis fasad, upriani<br />

iqneboda, rom erTi wliT<br />

mainc ganrideboda sakuTar Tanamdebobas,<br />

miT umetes, rodesac<br />

igi eloda ra dapatimrebas, acxadebda,<br />

vin iqneboda misi Semcvleli.<br />

Semcvleli Cveni sazogadoebisTvis<br />

namdvilad misaRebi<br />

piria, mas arc erTi xelisuflebis<br />

lekvis saxeli ar aqvs, es<br />

mxolod gazrdis interess im<br />

televiziis mimarT, romelic<br />

2012 wlamde mxolod opozicias<br />

akritikebda, mas Semdeg ki mxolod<br />

xelisuflebas akritikebs<br />

da amitom mas obieqturs ver<br />

vuwodebT, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

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diax, iq myofi Jurnalistebi da<br />

arxis mTeli Semadgenloba uaRresad<br />

niWieri da sainteresoa<br />

Cveni sazogadoebisTvis. orive<br />

mxarem uari unda Tqvas raime<br />

pretenziaze, rom es arxi iyos<br />

romelime xelisuflebis qveSevrdomi.<br />

mxolod aseT SemTxevvaSi<br />

SeiZleba ara mxolod aRdges,<br />

aramed gaifurCqnos „rusTavi<br />

2" da marTla saerTaSoriso<br />

standartebis erT-erT saukeTeso<br />

telekompaniad Camoyalibdes.<br />

amitom SevTavazebdi erTgul<br />

mayureblebs, rom mouwodon ma-<br />

TTvis sayvarel arxs, gaemijnon<br />

nebismier politikur Temas da<br />

SeinarCunon is pativiscema,<br />

romelic niWierma adamianebma<br />

TavianTi SromiTa da profesionalizmiT<br />

daimsaxures.<br />

mamuka areSiZe _ „strategiuli<br />

kvlevebis kavkasiuri cen-<br />

tri”:<br />

_ „rusTavi 2"-is sakiTxi vizaliberalizaciaze<br />

jer ver imoqmedebs,<br />

gaaCnia, 8 marts ra moxdeba.<br />

8 marti iqneba mniSvnelovani<br />

im TvalsazrisiT, rogor<br />

verdiqts gamoitanen. amis mixedviT<br />

SegveZleba vimsjeloT, iqoniebs<br />

Tu ara gavlenas es saqar-<br />

Tvelos saerTaSoriso imijze.<br />

es yvelaferi ase martivad ar<br />

xdeba, sasamarTlom uaryofiTi<br />

gadawyvetileba romc miiRos da<br />

es rekomendacia misces evroparlaments,<br />

warmoudgenelia,<br />

magram davuSvaT, rekomendacia<br />

iyo, rom evroparlamentma an evrosabWom<br />

Tavisi pozicia gamo-<br />

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portSi, savaraudod, natos Zalebis<br />

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politikuri koniunqturidan<br />

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faseulobebi. Cveni<br />

mezoblebis SemTxvevaSi amas<br />

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irRveoda, magram dasavle-<br />

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amas ase ar vuyureb.<br />

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yviT?<br />

_ „rusTavi 2" unda arsebobdes,<br />

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calsaxad im paTosis, rogoric<br />

dRes aris, anu xelsuflebis mimarT<br />

kritikuli, magram seriozuli<br />

pretenziebi maqvs menejmentis<br />

da kerZod, nika gvaramias<br />

mimarT. es arasodes damimalavs,<br />

radgan rac ki ubedureba xdeboda<br />

qveyanaSi, gvaramia amis erTerTi<br />

avtori iyo, maT Soris, „imedis”<br />

saqmis, „iberiaze” rom aRaraferi<br />

vTqvaT. rac Seexeba imas,<br />

xalvaSi iqneba Tu sxva xelmZRvaneli,<br />

rasakvirvelia, orive Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi erTnairad aris, xelidan<br />

xelSi gadadioda, amitom iq<br />

bevri ram aburduli da arasworia.<br />

am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />

bevrad ufro faqizi midgoma<br />

iyo saWiro.<br />

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`es iyo "qarTuli ocnebis" Secdoma, rom man televiziis<br />

mesakuTris Secvla moindoma da, aqedan gamomdinare, "rusTavi 2"-<br />

is saredaqcio politikis Secvla. am saqmeSi es aris arsebiTi,<br />

danarCeni ukve beletristikaa, Sefasebebi da improvizaciebi<br />

sxvadasxva mxridan. saerTod, mimaCnia, rom "qarTul ocnebas" ar<br />

aqvs unari imisa, rom raime problema gadawyvitos, Tundac es<br />

exebodes sainformacio sivrcis usafrTxoebas. mogexsenebaT,<br />

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ekonomikuri da a. S. usafrTxoebebTan sainformacio sivrcis<br />

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unda uqmnides safrTxes saxelmwifos arsebobas, qveynis<br />

ganviTarebas da sxv.~<br />

vaJa beriZe _ eqsperti:<br />

_ TavisTavad cxadia, „rusTavi<br />

2"-is saqme rezonansulia, mas<br />

sxvadasxva prizmaSi aRiqvams saqarTvelos<br />

xelisufleba da<br />

evrokavSiris garkveuli wreebi<br />

_ mmarTveli biurokratia, media<br />

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fundamentur sakiTxebze<br />

unda SevTanxmdeT: 1. mediis<br />

Tavisufleba upirobod xelSeuxebelia;<br />

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gaxda. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

sakuTrebis Taobaze dava cota<br />

sasaciloa. miuxedavad am winapirobisa,<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

mTavrobam sworad ver Seafasa<br />

problemis arsi da araswori midgomebis<br />

realizeba daiwyo televiziasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT. miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom es aris partiuli<br />

televizia, am televiziis<br />

gaCereba arafriT ar SeiZleba,<br />

es televizia unda darCes sainformacio<br />

sivrceSi im menejmentiT,<br />

romelic dRes hyavs da<br />

im saredaqcio politikiT, romelsac<br />

dRes is awarmoebs. es Cemi<br />

midgoma calsaxad araerTxel<br />

davafiqsire. Tumca me erTi moqalaqe<br />

var da zegavlenas verc<br />

xelisuflebis politikis formirebaze<br />

movaxden. me ki ara,<br />

mTeli sazogadoeba ver axdens<br />

am politikaze zegavlenas. aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, Cveni strategiuli<br />

partniorebi ise aRiqvamen,<br />

rom mediis Tavisuflebas<br />

xelyofen. „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

mTavrobas aranairi berketi da<br />

saSualeba ar aqvs saimisod, rom<br />

amaSi dasavleTi gadaarwmunos.<br />

asec rom ar iyos, kidev erTxel<br />

vimeoreb: yvela SemTxvevaSi es<br />

iyo „qarTuli ocnebis” Secdoma,<br />

rom man televiziis mesaku-<br />

Tris Secvla moindoma da, aqedan<br />

gamomdinare, „rusTavi 2"-is<br />

saredaqcio politikis Secvla.<br />

am saqmeSi es aris arsebiTi, danarCeni<br />

ukve beletristikaa, Sefasebebi<br />

da improvizaciebi sxvadasxva<br />

mxridan. saerTod, mimaCnia,<br />

rom „qarTul ocnebas” ar<br />

aqvs unari imisa, rom raime problema<br />

gadawyvitos, Tundac es<br />

exebodes sainformacio sivrcis<br />

usafrTxoebas. mogexsenebaT,<br />

arsebobs iseTi cneba, rogoric<br />

aris erovnuli usafrTxoebis<br />

sistema, mimarTulebebi, maT Soris,<br />

politikur-samxedro-ekonomikuri<br />

da a. S. usafrTxoebebTan<br />

sainformacio sivrcis<br />

usafrTxoeba arsebobs, romelic<br />

garkveuli TvalsazisiT ar<br />

unda uqmnides safrTxes saxelmwifos<br />

arsebobas, qveynis ganvi-<br />

Tarebas da sxv. am WrilSic rom<br />

dasmuliyo sakiTxi, _ ramdenad<br />

SesaZloa ganxorcieldes diversiebi<br />

sainformacio sivrceSi garkveuli<br />

Zalebis mier?. ra Tqma<br />

unda, es sasurveli ar aris, miuRebelia,<br />

rodesac Sens sainformacio<br />

sivrces garedan sxva<br />

Zalebi akontroleben, Tundac<br />

isini Seni strategiuli partniorebi<br />

iyvnen, magram am xelisuflebas<br />

ar aqvs imis unari,<br />

rom aseTi problemebi samarTlebrivi<br />

gziT gadawyvitos. mo-<br />

`rusTavi 2"-is sakiTxi vizaliberalizaciaze jer<br />

ver imoqmedebs, gaaCnia, 8 marts ra moxdeba. 8<br />

marti iqneba mniSvnelovani im TvalsazrisiT,<br />

rogor verdiqts gamoitanen. amis mixedviT<br />

SegveZleba vimsjeloT, iqoniebs Tu ara gavlenas es<br />

saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso imijze. es yvelaferi<br />

ase martivad ar xdeba, sasamarTlom uaryofiTi<br />

gadawyvetileba romc miiRos da es rekomendacia<br />

misces evroparlaments, warmoudgenelia, magram<br />

davuSvaT, rekomendacia iyo, rom evroparlamentma<br />

an evrosabWom Tavisi pozicia gamoTqvas. im<br />

SemTxvevaSic ki, sxva faqtorebi aucileblad iqneba<br />

yuradsaRebi. magaliTad, natos aqtivoba Sav<br />

zRvasa da foTis portSi, savaraudod, natos<br />

Zalebis ganlageba. dasavleTi moqmedebs<br />

politikuri koniunqturidan gamomdinare. Tu maT<br />

sWirdebaT, SeiZleba, ugulebelyon yovelgvari<br />

saerTaSoriso demokratiuli faseulobebi~<br />

vaJa beriZe<br />

gexsenebaT, Sedegad miviReT is,<br />

rom Cveni marTlmsajulebis,<br />

sasamarTlo sistemis mimarT<br />

isedac ar iyo xalxSi aranairi<br />

avtoriteti, wina xelisuflebis<br />

dros es gaxldaT prokuraturis<br />

dakveTebis „gampravebeli”<br />

sistema, axla ufro naklebia<br />

am xelisuflebis mimarT<br />

ndoba, romlis gadawyvetilebebs<br />

Tundac iyos erTi mosamar-<br />

Tle, an evropis adamianis uflebaTa<br />

sasamarTlo, ar aRiarebs<br />

da es avtoritetes scems. sasamarTlo<br />

xelisufleba qveynis<br />

suverenitetis erT-erTi mTavari<br />

Semadgeneli nawilia. ase<br />

rom, absoluturad sapirispiro<br />

Sedegi miviReT, rac am xelisuflebas<br />

surda da saerTod, es<br />

xelisufleba aris susti imdenad,<br />

ramdenadac mas ar aqvs kav-<br />

Siri sazogadoebasTan, es mis-<br />

Tvis saerTod aqilevsis quslad<br />

iqca, radgan rodesac qveyanas<br />

marTav da ukukavSiri ar arsebobs,<br />

anu sazogadoebidan impulsebi<br />

ukan ar modis, faqtobrivad,<br />

mTeli arasamTavrobo<br />

seqtori, media, saeqsperto sazogadoeba,<br />

analitikosebi arian<br />

Seni winaaRmdegebi da mxardamWeri<br />

aravin gyavs, es ukve<br />

aris imis niSani, rom xelisuflebas<br />

seriozuli problemebi<br />

aqvs. magaliTad, dRes premieri<br />

kvirikaSvili formalurad gamovida<br />

mediaombudsmenis aparatis<br />

SemoRebis iniciativiT, es aris<br />

yovlad ususuri da arafrismomcemi<br />

iniciativa. Cven gvyavs<br />

saxalxo damcveli, romelic<br />

calke seqtorebiT awarmoebs<br />

adamianis uflebebis dacvas,<br />

gnebavT sakuTrebis uflebebis<br />

dacvas da aseT viTarebaSi raRac<br />

axali iniciativa, rom ucxoelebi<br />

moviwvioT, romlebic<br />

aqaur situaciaSi gaerkvevian, am<br />

qveyanaSi iseTi absurduli situaciaa,<br />

rom jer Cveni mTavroba<br />

ver garkveula da romeli mowveuli<br />

mediaeqsperti gadagiwyvets<br />

sakiTxs, _ televizia unda<br />

iyos Tu ara? mesakuTre kanonieria<br />

Tu ara? gasagebia es yvelaferi,<br />

araformaluria qveyanaSi<br />

mmarTvelobac da araformaluria<br />

yvelaferi, avtoritetuli<br />

televiziis formac. qveyanas<br />

marTavs biZina ivaniSvili<br />

da premieri, romelic politikur<br />

figurad aris misi menejeri<br />

da meore _ yvelaze avtoritetul<br />

televizias marTavs ukraineli<br />

politikosi mixeil saakaSvili<br />

da misi menejeri aris sakmaod<br />

niWieri adamiani nika gvaramia.<br />

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nino gvenetaZis<br />

gmiris, gvenetaZis sacxovrebels<br />

is 2015 wlis 20 martidan saqa-<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

miadgebiT.<br />

rTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

quCa viwro da mWidrod dasax-<br />

Tavmjdomarea; 1998-1999 wlebSi<br />

lebulia, marcxena mxares, gayoliyo<br />

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ubnis patara maRaziebi dgas,<br />

marTled muSaobda; 2008 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi respu-<br />

sadac, ZiriTadad, adilobrivi<br />

blikuri partiidan xaSuris raionis deputatad iyrida kenWs.<br />

mcxovreblebi dadian. im drois-<br />

dRes nino gvenetaZis „kom-<br />

lari; saia _ ganaTlebis fondis<br />

Tvis, roca mec iq viyavi, yvela<br />

fortis zonaze” mogiyvebiT.<br />

proeqtidan _ 4 265.00 lari, xolo<br />

maTganSi xalxis simravle iyo.<br />

fond „Ria sazogadoebidan” _ 3<br />

mokled rom vTqva, doliZis<br />

saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamar- 564.00 lari.<br />

quCidan meore mosaxvevSi marjvniv<br />

gavyevi gzas, sadac am viwro<br />

Tlos Tavmjdomare TbilisSi or Tumca, garda Semosavlisa, gvenetaZes<br />

erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

binas da erT miwis nakveTs flobs.<br />

quCam eqvssarTulian ZvelaSenebul<br />

korpusTan mimiyvana, warwer-<br />

kerZod, 2016 wlis 23 maiss Sevsebuli<br />

deklaraciis mixedviT, ni-<br />

sesxebis procentis dasafarad 17<br />

soliduri danaxarjic hqonda. man<br />

iT pankisis #3. korpuss Zveli bano<br />

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423 dolari da 674.00 lari gasca.<br />

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Si 70.00 kv.m.-isa da amave misamarTze<br />

140.00 kv.m.-is farTobis binebis. riani kreditis (xelSekrulebis<br />

2007 wels aRebuli 60 000-dola-<br />

Zveleburi, moCuqurTmebuli stilis<br />

iyo. im misamarTs mivageni, rasac<br />

veZebdi da axla mezoblebi-<br />

garda amisa, is flobs 11.00 dadebisa da amowurvis TariRi: 28/<br />

kv.m.-is miwis nakveTs TbilisSi, 12/2007- 7/12/2017) dasafarad<br />

sTvis kiTxvebis dasmis dro dadga.<br />

vinaidan ar vicodi, Tu rome-<br />

„diRmis savaneSi”.<br />

10280.00 dolari; amave bankSi 2012<br />

rac Seexeba mis finansur mdgomareobas,<br />

deklaraciis Sevsebis kreditis (xelSekrulebis dadeb-<br />

wels aRebuli 30000.00-dolariani<br />

li iyo konkretulad Cveni obieqtis<br />

bina, amitom SemTxveviTi SermomentSi<br />

mis saxelfaso angariSze, isa da amowurvis TariRi: 12/02/<br />

Cevis principiT vakakunebdi, an<br />

deklaraciis mixedviT, „respublika<br />

bankSi” 950.00 lari (kredi-<br />

7143.00 dolari gadaixada.<br />

2014-12/02/2019) dasafarad ki,<br />

vrekavdi zars.<br />

pirvel sarTulze sul ori<br />

ti(+) iricxeboda; Sps qarTul-amerikuli<br />

universitetis profeso-<br />

bankSi 2010 wels 10 000-dolari-<br />

garda amisa, gvenetaZes amave<br />

kari iyo, romelTaganac erTi<br />

zedmetad „mdidrulad” momeCvena<br />

robis sadoqtoro da samagistro ani kreditic aqvs aRebuli (xelSekrulebis<br />

dadebisa da amow-<br />

da „SesaZlebeli iyo”, „interesis<br />

programebis xelmZRvanelobis<br />

obieqts” davdgomodi Tavze, amitom<br />

zari ar davreke. meore karze<br />

dros 400.00 lari auRia, saqarTvelos<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tav-<br />

2017), romlis dasafaradac man<br />

urvis TariRi: 30/09/2014-30/09/<br />

gadavedi, romelic ar gamiRes da<br />

mjdomareobis dros ki _ 102199.36 674.00 lari gadaixada.<br />

ase gagrZelda ramdenjerme. bolos,<br />

mesame sarTulze, erT-erT<br />

lari.<br />

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rac Seexeba 2015 wlis deklaracias,<br />

mis mixedviT, Sps qarTul-amis<br />

mixedviT: sesxi, krediti,<br />

cvalebadia 2016 wlis monacemeb-<br />

karze kakunisas, qalbatonma mkiTxa,<br />

_ vin xaro? _ avuxseni, Jurnalisti<br />

var da statias vamzadeberikuli<br />

universitetidan, sadac 60000.00 aSS dolari (28/12/2007,<br />

sadoqtoro da samagistro programebis<br />

xelmZRvaneli iyo, „bank respublikidan”. aqedan wina<br />

28/12/2007-27/12/2017) aqvs aRebuli<br />

meTqi. _ araferi vicio, _ pirdapir<br />

momaxala:<br />

98225.00 laris Semosavali aqvs mi- wlis pirveli ianvridan 31 de-<br />

_ erTi kiTxva meqneba, ubral-<br />

Rebuli; iusticiis saswavlo centri<br />

_ saeqsperto momsaxurebidan miRebuli materialuri Sedegi<br />

am korpusSi cxovrobs?<br />

_ 8 080.00 lari; xolo iuridiuli 10280.00 aSS dolars udris (gasavkembris<br />

CaTvliT xelSekrulebiT<br />

od, nino gvenetaZes Tu icnobT?<br />

_ mosamarTle?<br />

ganaTlebis xelSewyobis fondidan,<br />

sadac sisxlis samarTlis leq-<br />

2014, 30/09/2014-30/09/2017) „banki<br />

ali). asevea 10000.00 lari (30/09/<br />

_ diax.<br />

_ ar vici, SeiZleba, pirvel<br />

tori iyo _ 1879.00 lari.<br />

respublika” materialuri Sedegi<br />

sarTulze iyos. iq axalgadmosulebi<br />

arian.<br />

garda amisa, gvenetaZem, erTi ki 674.00 lari (gasavali). kidev<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi, Semosavlis erTi krediti, 30000.00 aSS dolari<br />

fiqsirdeba amave bankSi (12/02/<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT-meTqi da<br />

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wamvedi.<br />

dainamiqs grantidan _ 23 454.00 2014, 12/02/2014-12/02/2019), materialuri<br />

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mdebare karidanac pasuxi ar<br />

Semdeg sarTulze avirbine da<br />

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(gasavali).<br />

iyo. axla meoreze gadavedi,<br />

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Semdeg saqmis uSualod ganxmomxeda.<br />

saidanac Suaxnis qalbatonma gaorcielebaze<br />

gadavedi, amitom<br />

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var,<br />

paraskev saRamos, 5 saaTisken, Cve-<br />

oriode kiTxva meqneba.<br />

ni statiis gmiris saxlisken daviZari.<br />

konkretuli mimarTuleba<br />

_ nino gvenetaZes icnobT? xom<br />

ukve aRebuli mqonda, amitom gzas<br />

am korpusSi cxovrobs?<br />

gavudeqi da Tan yovel wuTs vlo-<br />

_ gverdiT korpusSi dabla nax-<br />

_ gismenT.<br />

cavdi axal teqnologiebs, romelic<br />

navigaciaSi mexmareba da<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />

uromlisodac Cem mier „komfor-<br />

am ZvelaSenebuli korpusidan<br />

eT, _ moisma kacis xma Signidan.<br />

tis zonis” rubrikaSi arsebuli gamovedi da gzas marcxniv, dabla<br />

gmirebis adgil-samyofelis dadgena<br />

cota garTuldeboda. deg ufro maRali, muqi vardisfe-<br />

gavuyevi. zustad am korpusis Sem-<br />

aRniSnuli teqnologiebis daxmarebiT<br />

saburTaloze, pekinis qu- Tac ukve namdvilad is adgilia,<br />

ri korpusi dgas, romlis gverdi-<br />

Cis maRla pankisis quCas miagnebT sadac gvenetaZis „komfortis zonas”<br />

mivakvlie.<br />

da Tu kostavas quCidan miuyvebiT<br />

gzas, maSin jer doliZis quCaze ramdenime daxuruli, an jerargaxsnili<br />

obieqtis gavlis Semdeg<br />

aRmoCndebiT, romlis aRmarTis<br />

asvlisas, marjvena mxares, meore xil-bostneulis maRazias CaivliT,<br />

romlis gareTac, savaraudod,<br />

Sesaxvevidan (eklesiasTan, aseve,<br />

patara Sesaxvevia, gvenetaZis „komfortis<br />

zonasTan” misvla iqidangazrda<br />

biWebi. am maRazias gascde-<br />

axlac isxdebian gamyidveli axalac<br />

SeiZleboda), Cveni dRevandeli biT Tu ara, xelmarcxniv aseve<br />

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aramravalsarTulian, muqi vardisferi<br />

Seferilobis korpuss miadgebiT,<br />

romlis winac dacvis<br />

daburuli kabina dgas da korpus-<br />

Si Sesasvlel karsac kodi icavs.<br />

kari rkinis da Savi ferisaa, masSi<br />

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iqve ayenia mowyobiloba,<br />

sadac vercxlisfer mogrZo „yuT-<br />

Si” am korpusSi mcxovreblebis<br />

siaa mocemuli da maTTan zaris<br />

darekvis SesaZleblobacaa.<br />

vinaidan kars kodi icavda, SigniT<br />

Sesvla ver movaxerxe, amitomac<br />

korpusis win mdgom dacvas<br />

mivmarTe dasaxmareblad da situaciac<br />

zustad avuxseni. maxsovda,<br />

parakebaT.<br />

_ kargi-meTqi, _ vuTxari da<br />

manac dareka. ramdenime wuTSi<br />

daRmarTze qoSiniT Camoirbina<br />

dacvis im TanamSromelma, romelsac<br />

ase velodebodiT.<br />

masac igive avuxseni da, _ ufrosTan<br />

gadavrekavo, _ miTxra. ki,<br />

batono-meTqi.<br />

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rom gamomekiTxa, ramdenad xSirad<br />

dadis da kuTxis maRaziebs Tu<br />

stumrobs Cveni mosamarTle.<br />

jer im xil-bostneulis ma-<br />

`komfortis zona~<br />

_ diax, es vici, TqvenTan Se-<br />

modis Tu ara, eg mainteresebs.<br />

_ aq ar Semodis, magram vici,<br />

rom cxovrobs.<br />

_ didi madloba.<br />

_ arafris.<br />

axla meore maRazias mivaSure,<br />

aqac aranaklbi raodenobis xalxi<br />

iyo, axalgazrda gamyidvel gogonas<br />

ramdenime wamiT yuradRebis<br />

moqceva vTxove da imasac igive<br />

vuTxari. sakuTari Tavi gavacani<br />

da isev kiTxvaze gadavedi, Tu icnoben<br />

gvenetaZes da maT maRazias<br />

stumrobs Tu ara?<br />

_ ar vicnob, magram ise aq minaxavs.<br />

marTalia, CemTan ar Semo-<br />

aWerda, visTanac gasaubreba Seme-<br />

Zlo da me kiTxvebs vusvamdi.<br />

pirvelive Semxvedri patara<br />

bavSvi iyo, zaris darekvisas ki<br />

dialogi Semdegi gaxldaT:<br />

_ vinaa? _ ikiTxa bavSvma.<br />

_ gamarjoba, ufrosebi ar ari-<br />

an saxlSi? _ amis Tqma iyo da ismoda,<br />

rom viRacam bavSvi gverdze<br />

gadawia, me mimiSvio.<br />

_ gamarjoba, gismenT, _ asakovani<br />

qali xma gaisma aparatSi.<br />

_ Jurnalisti var, „qronika+”-<br />

dan, oriode kiTxva meqneba, Tu<br />

SeiZleba.<br />

_ gismenT.<br />

_ mainteresebs, nino gvenetaZe<br />

ria urTierTobaSi?<br />

Cveulebrivad, ra vici.<br />

rogorc sxvebi, gvesalmeba xolme,<br />

ki: gamarjoba, rogor xarT? _ da<br />

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_ ZiriTadad, rodis naxulobT<br />

xolme?<br />

_ diliT adre Tu SevxvdebiT<br />

xolme, an saRamos gvian.<br />

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_ arafris.<br />

am mezoblis Semdeg kidev ramdenimesTan<br />

ganmeorebiT davrekeT,<br />

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Zaxili”, amitomac dacvas gamovemSvidobe<br />

da statiis dasawerad<br />

gaveSure.<br />

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igive SemTxveva iyo batoni<br />

kalaZis „komfortis zonis” aRweris<br />

drosac da maSin dacvis<br />

TanamSromlebi Zalian damexmarnen,<br />

amaves velodi axlac.<br />

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da misi gareT gamosvlac erTi<br />

iyo.<br />

_ gamarjoba, „qronika+”-is<br />

Jurnalisti var, ministrebisa da<br />

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politikuri saxeebis „komfortis<br />

zonaze” vwer. axla q-n nino gven-<br />

etaZis „komfortis zona” unda<br />

aRvwero da amisTvis mezoblebTan<br />

mWirdeba gasaubreba. SegiZli-<br />

aT, kari gamiRoT?<br />

_ SigniT ver Sexval.<br />

_ ratom? garedan mainc ar<br />

SeiZleba, rom davelaparako me-<br />

zoblebs?<br />

_ moicadeT, unda davreko.<br />

_ sad?<br />

_ Cems TanamSromels davurekav,<br />

maRaziaSia gasuli, is dagela-<br />

RaziiT daviwye, weRan rom vaxsene.<br />

maTac igive avuxseni, rom Jurnalisti<br />

var da mainteresebs, gvenetaZes<br />

Tu xedaven xolme, am maRaziaSi<br />

Tu Semodis, xils Tu yidulobs<br />

maTTan?<br />

_ ara, Cven aranairi Sexeba ar<br />

gvaqvs, radgan axalgaxsnilebi<br />

varT, 3-4 dRea, rac aq vmuSaobT.<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />

aRmarTs mivaSure, sadac maRaziebi<br />

meguleboda. naklebad savaraudo<br />

iyo, rom gvenetaZe aq amovidoda,<br />

magram aRmarTze mainc<br />

avedi. jer pirvel maRaziaSi Sevedi,<br />

sadac sakmaod bevri xalxi<br />

trialebda, roca gamyidveli Can-<br />

TaSi raRacas alagebda, dro vixelTe<br />

da vkiTxe:<br />

_ nino gvenetaZes Tu icnobT,<br />

Tu Semodis TqvenTan-meTqi?<br />

_ mosamarTles?<br />

_ diax.<br />

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rom CauyvebiT, _ miTxra da<br />

xeliT maniSna.<br />

dis xolme, magram mainc.<br />

_ gmadlobT-meTqi da wamovedi.<br />

isev im korpuss mivaSure, we-<br />

Ran rom ambis gasarkvevad dacvis<br />

policia davtove.<br />

movedi Tu ara, maSinve dacvas<br />

vkiTxe:<br />

_ ra gairkveT, miSvebT Tu ara-<br />

meTqi?<br />

_ jer ar vici, zars velodebio.<br />

kidev 15 wuTi gavida.<br />

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Tanxmoba momces, oRond mxolod<br />

imis, rom SigniT korpusSi ar Sevidodi<br />

da garedan, ukve am xsenebuli<br />

mowyobilobis saSualebiT<br />

davelaparakebodi mcxovreblebs.<br />

mxolod xuT Tu eqvs maTganTan<br />

mqonda dalaparakebis ufleba,<br />

danarCenTan _ ara.<br />

amazec Tanaxma viyavi, oRond<br />

vinmesTan gamesaubra da maSinve<br />

moqmedebaze gadavedi. karTan me<br />

da dacvis ori TanamSromeli<br />

davdeqiT, erT-erTi Rilakebs<br />

rogori mezobelia TqvenTvis?<br />

_ kargi.<br />

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xolme?<br />

_ iSviaTad, magram vxedavT<br />

xolme.<br />

_ salmiania?<br />

_ diax, rogor ara.<br />

_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />

_ arafris, naxvamdis.<br />

axla Semdeg Rilaks miaWira<br />

dacvis TanamSromelma, Tumca pasuxi<br />

ar iyo. ase gagrZelda kidev<br />

or mezobelTan. savaraudod, saxlSi<br />

ar iyvnen. bolos, rogorc<br />

iqna, axalgazrda mamakacis xma gaisma,<br />

masac vuTxari, rom Jurnalisti<br />

viyavi:<br />

_ gamarjoba, gismenT.<br />

_ mainteresebs, nino gvenetaZe<br />

rogori mezobelia TqvenTvis?<br />

_ rogorc Cveulebrivi yvela<br />

sxva.<br />

_ xSirad xedavT xolme?<br />

_ xSirad vera.<br />

_ ramdenad salmiania? rogo-<br />

korpusis win Zalian patara<br />

baRia, sadac mwvaned SeRebili,<br />

rkinebiT ovalurad gadaxuruli<br />

mcire nageboba dgas, romelSic<br />

RvTismSoblis xatia moTavsebuli.<br />

amave quCis gayolebaze Ria mwvane<br />

feris qviT mopirkeTebuli, wminda<br />

Tamar mefis saxelobis patara<br />

bazilika moCans.<br />

ezoSi bavSvebi erT adgilas,<br />

manqanebis farexebTan Segroviliyvnen<br />

da raRacaze gulianad icinodnen.<br />

dacva Tavis kabinas daubrunda.<br />

mec wamovedi.<br />

Cveni qveynis uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />

Tavmjdomaris „komfortis<br />

zona” swored aq, saburTaloze,<br />

pekinis quCis ukan, pankisis<br />

quCaze mdebareobs, Tan im korpus-<br />

Si, sadac Cemnairi an sxva tipis<br />

Jurnalisti (Tundac gansxvavebuli<br />

profesiis mqone pirovneba) unebarTvod<br />

verasdros Seva da „Seawuxebs”<br />

mezoblebs.<br />

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arakonkurentuli<br />

da sabazro ekonomika<br />

qiravdeba/giravdeba saofise<br />

nino tabaRua<br />

farTi, _ ramdenad xSirad ginaxavT<br />

amgvari warwera quCaSi, xee-<br />

bze, kedlebze, gazeTebsa da ra Tqma unda, internetSi? _<br />

Zalian xSirad!<br />

ritorikuli kiTxva igive formiT darCeba, radgan yvela<br />

Cvengans gvinaxavs msgavsi warwerebi da isic Zalian xSirad.<br />

ras niSnavs es? biznesis keTeba gamartivda da am kuTxiT<br />

Tavisuflebi varT?<br />

ratom da rogor gamartivda<br />

procedurebi saqarTveloSi biznesis<br />

keTebis kuTxiT?<br />

ra tendenciebi SeiniSneba da<br />

ramdenad SesaZlebelia mciredan<br />

msxvil biznesSi gadanacvleba? _<br />

am kiTxvebiT „qronika+” dainteresda.<br />

„albaT, gaxsovT, rom msoflio<br />

bankis jgufma „biznesis warmoeba<br />

2017 _ Tanaswori SesaZleblobebi<br />

yvelasaTvis” kvleva gamoaqveyna,<br />

romlis Tanaxmad, saqarTvelo<br />

190 qveyanas Soris me-16 adgilzea;<br />

evropisa da centraluri aziis<br />

regionSi ki saqarTvelo mesame<br />

adgilzea umaRlesi reitingis<br />

mqone qveynebs Soris _ makedoniisa<br />

da latviis Semdeg. saqarTvelo<br />

aseve im mowinave 10 qveyanas<br />

Sorisaa, romlebmac mniSvnelovnad<br />

gaaumjobeses sakuTari maCveneblebi<br />

globaluri masStabiT.<br />

TbilisSi miwis administrireba<br />

kerZo mflobelobaSi arsebuli<br />

nakveTebis rukaze dataniT gaumjobesda;<br />

saqarTvelom mcire<br />

investorebis dacva gaaZliera aqcionerTa<br />

uflebebisa da rolis<br />

20<br />

SoTa gulbani<br />

`rodesac vsaubrobT<br />

nebismieri qveynis<br />

biznesgaremoze, sam<br />

mniSvnelovan faqtors<br />

unda mivaqcioT<br />

yuradReba - pirveli:<br />

ramdenad daculia<br />

qveyanaSi sakuTrebis<br />

ufleba, meore: rogor<br />

progresirebs qveynis<br />

ZriTadi<br />

makroekonomikuri<br />

monacemebi, anu ramdenad<br />

swor ekonomikur<br />

politikas atarebs<br />

xelisufleba da mesame:<br />

ramdenad iolia<br />

qveyanaSi finansebze<br />

xelmisawvdomoba<br />

biznesis dasawyebad, an<br />

ganviTareba-<br />

gadaiaraRebisTvis~<br />

gazrdiT ZiriTadi korporaciuli<br />

gadawyvetilebebis miRebaSi<br />

da mflobelobisa da makontrolebeli<br />

struqturebis mkafiod<br />

gansazRvriT; eleqtronuli damuSavebis<br />

sistemis gaumjobesebiT<br />

SesaZlebeli gaxda eqsportisa da<br />

importis dokumentebis ufro<br />

swrafi wardgena; aseve, dainerga<br />

winaswari eleqtronuli dokumentebis<br />

wardgenis SesaZlebloba;<br />

gadasaxadebis gadaxdis sferoSi<br />

saqarTvelom gaauqma mogebis gadasaxadis<br />

deklaraciis damatebi-<br />

Ti danarTi da dRg-is deklaraciebis<br />

warsadgenad gamoyenebuli<br />

onlain sistemis efeqtianoba gaaumjobesa;<br />

„biznesis warmoebis” kvlevis<br />

mier Sefasebul xuT sferoSi ganxorcielebuli<br />

reformebis Sedegad<br />

saqarTvelos winsvla gansakuTrebul<br />

aRniSvnas imsaxurebs.<br />

qveyana kvlavac warmatebul<br />

reformatorebs Sorisaa mdgradi<br />

ekonomikuri zrdiT da globaluri<br />

Sokebis mimarT mdgradobis<br />

gaZlierebiT”, _ Tavis droze<br />

aRniSna msoflio bankis regionulma<br />

direqtorma samxreT kavkasiaSi,<br />

mersi tembonma.<br />

realurad, kvlevis sagani _<br />

biznesis warmoeba _ kompleqsuri<br />

maCvenebelia da warmoebaSi fundamenturi<br />

mdgenelia biznesis<br />

wamowyebis simartive, amaSi biznesis<br />

dasrulebac igulisxmeba da,<br />

am SemTxvevaSi, ukve arc ise saxarbielo<br />

pozicia gvaqvs.<br />

aRniSnul kvlevas gasul nomrebSi<br />

ukve mivuZRveniT statia,<br />

magram axla sainteresoa, Tu realurad<br />

rogor xorcieldeba yovelive<br />

da ramdenadaa garemo<br />

morgebuli rigiT, damwyeb biznesmenebze,<br />

amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

ekonomikis eqspertebsa da biznes<br />

samarTlis specialists vesaubreT,<br />

Tumca manamde gavixsenoT<br />

wina Tvis miwuruls „magTikomis”<br />

mflobelis, joxTaberiZis gancxadeba<br />

farul mosmenebTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT: „iseTi SegrZneba maqvs,<br />

TiTqos ginda daimorCilo _ me ki<br />

minda, Tavisufali viyo biznesis<br />

kuTxiT”.<br />

aseve gasaTvaliswinebelia<br />

„jorjian developmenT grupis”<br />

damfuZnebel guram waqaZis<br />

gancadeba: „biznesTan dakavSirebiT<br />

sirTule mxolod isaa, rom<br />

bazari Zalian mcire gvaqvs, Torem<br />

dRes mis keTebas xels aravin<br />

uSlis, piriqiT, Zalian kargi garemo<br />

aqvs. Tu imas gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />

rom Ceni qveyana Zalian pataraa<br />

da bazari Zalian mcirea,<br />

esaa sirTule”.<br />

zogadad ki, rodesac biznesis<br />

warmoebisTvis xelsayrel pirobebzea<br />

saubari, aq ori aspeqtia<br />

gasaTvaliswinebeli: pirveli, es<br />

aris registracia, romelic ukve<br />

Zalian gaadvilebulia da meore,<br />

biznesis keTeba.<br />

eqspertebis mosazrebiT, gansakuTrebiT<br />

rTulia aralobirebuli<br />

biznesis keTeba.<br />

registrirebis kuTxiT licenziebis<br />

problemac mraval sferoSia<br />

moxsnili, nebarTvebi, am<br />

mxriv, minimaluria, rac, ra Tqma<br />

unda, kargia, magram TviTon saer-<br />

To garemo, jerjerobiT, ar aris<br />

axlos im mdgomareobasTan, rac<br />

mTlianad biznesis ganviTarebas<br />

Seuwyobda xels.<br />

eqspertebisve SefasebiT, yvelaze<br />

cudi, rac saqarTveloSia,<br />

aris arakonkurentuli garemo, is<br />

rac amosavalia sabazro ekonomikisTvis.<br />

am arakonkurentul garemos<br />

ki xels uwyoben msxvili<br />

monopolistebi, oligopoliuri<br />

bazrebi, msxvili importiorebi,<br />

xelisuflebasTan asocirebuli<br />

da misive mxardaWeriT funqcionirebadi<br />

subieqtebi. eseni xels<br />

uSlian imas, rom adgilobrivi<br />

warmoeba ganviTardes, yvelaferi<br />

importzea Camokidebuli, maT Soris,<br />

kvebis sferoSic.<br />

akaki CargeiSvili _ biznes-<br />

samarTlis specialisti:<br />

_ biznesis keTebisa da wamowyebis<br />

Tema, zogadad, Zalian gaSlil<br />

saubars moiTxovs. es imitom,<br />

rom, erTi mxriv, biznesis dawyeba<br />

asocirdeba kompaniis gaxsnasTan<br />

da formalur sakiTxebTan,<br />

magram meorea, Semdeg, ukve<br />

uSualod praqtikuli biznesiT<br />

dakaveba, Sesabamisad, biznesis<br />

wamowyeba, kompaniis gaxsna, daregistrirebis<br />

saqmes Tu mivyvebiT,<br />

es Zalian martivi da advili<br />

procesia.<br />

meore mxriv, rac Seexeba ukve<br />

biznesis dawyebas, nebismier Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi es biznesis dawyebis SesaZlebloba<br />

ukavSirdeba ekonomikur<br />

seqtorSi sxvadasxva Tematikas.<br />

es iqneba mSenebloba, raimes<br />

warmoeba, distribucia Tu a. S.<br />

aq ukve specifika imis mixedviTaa,<br />

ramdenad advilia konkretuli<br />

biznesis warmoeba.<br />

magaliTisTvis rom vTqvaT,<br />

mSeneblobasTan dakavSirebuli<br />

Temebi roca gvaqvs, erTia kompaniis<br />

gaxsna erT dReSi, magram meorea,<br />

roca ukve mSeneblobis<br />

nebarTva gWirdeba, Sesabamisad,<br />

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garemo<br />

naxazebia aucilebeli da amis sasociaciebma gancxadebebis gakeTeba,<br />

Riad iyo saubari sael-<br />

garda, ukve Tu raime sadavo sakiTxia,<br />

es, rogorc wesi, administraciul<br />

berketebsa da urTier-<br />

Coebis donezec.<br />

Tobebs ukavSirdeba. nebismieri<br />

soso arCvaZe _ ekonomikis<br />

sakiTxi, romelic gadawyvetileb-<br />

eqsperti:<br />

is miRebas saWiroebs, aq ukve _ instituciurad da samarTlebrivad<br />

biznesis wamowyeba<br />

rTulad gvaqvs saqme. es katastrofaa,<br />

imitom, rom droSi gaWimul<br />

sasamarTlo davebs vRebu-<br />

aris e. w. kapitalis qona, radgan<br />

rTuli ar aris, magram problema<br />

lobT, romelic ramdenime dRes Cveni mosaxleobis Semosavlebi<br />

da erT, an or wels ki ara, sam, an araTu biznesis wamosawyebad, aramed<br />

Cveulebrivi, rigiTi moTx-<br />

oTx wels SeiZleba gagrZeldes.<br />

detalurad, roca bizness raime ovnebis dasakmayofilebladac<br />

aqvs dagegmili da es realurad arasakmarisia. amaze metyvelebs<br />

gadauwyvetelia, ukve biznesis warmoebas<br />

aferxebs da ukve cud li sesxebis raodenobis zrda,<br />

ramdenime faqti, es aris aRebu-<br />

mdgomareobaSi amyofebs damwyeb plus vadagadacilebuli davalianebis<br />

swrafi mateba _ marTalia,<br />

bizness.<br />

amitom erTi mxarea formaluri,<br />

roca biznesis gaxsnazea atarebs „awarmoe saqarTveloSi”<br />

saxelmwifo bolo ori weliwadia<br />

saubari da meore mxarea saqmis politikas, romlis mixedviTac<br />

keTeba, ramdenad mobilizebulia calkeul seqtorSi warmoeba,<br />

saxelmwifo institutebi, ramdenad<br />

arian TavianTi gadawyvetileba,<br />

garkveuli finansuri daxmare-<br />

mrewveloba, momsaxureba izrdebebiT<br />

mzad, rom mxari dagiWiron bac xdeba, magram mTlianobaSi es<br />

konkretuli biznesis keTebaSi. mainc ar aris sakmarisi imisTvis,<br />

sasamarTlo davebi Zalian didi<br />

problemaa, imitom rom, ro-<br />

Ta didi nawili am mxardaWeriT<br />

rom yvela msurveli, an msurvelgorc<br />

vTqvi, sam an oTx wels gr- dakmayofildes. amitom ufro<br />

Zeldeba.<br />

meti resursia saWiro saamisod.<br />

specialurad Cavatare kvleva, anu, erTi mxriv, samarTlebrivi<br />

amisTvis sasamarTlos mivmarTe resursia saWiro biznesis warmoebisTvis<br />

da, meore mxriv, mwiri fi-<br />

da aRmoCnda, rom marto Tbilisis<br />

saqalaqo sasamarTloSi, samoqalaqo<br />

saqmeebis warmoebis mxriv, msurvels saSualebas ar aZlevs,<br />

nansuri SesaZlebloba yvela<br />

erT mosamarTleze gansaxilvelad<br />

1000 saqmemde modis. es aris SesaZleblobebis motivacia uz-<br />

rom sakuTari gegmebis, miznebis,<br />

katastrofa iqidan gamomdinare, runvelyos.<br />

rom amas kolosaluri dro da<br />

_ Tu konkretul moqalaqes<br />

resursi, sasamarTloSi menejireukve<br />

aqvs materialuri baza, ramba<br />

da administrireba sWirdeba.<br />

denad martivia biznesis wamow-<br />

_ bankebis araprofiluri bi-<br />

yeba da warmoeba misTvis?<br />

znesebis floba da konkurenci-<br />

_ mas SeuZlia mcire saxis bi-<br />

ac xom ar uSlis xels biznesis<br />

znesis warmoeba, magram e. w msx-<br />

keTebas?<br />

vilmasStabian biznesSi gadasvla,<br />

_ es ukve Semdgomi ambebia, anu an im sferoSi, romelic ukve ganawilebulia<br />

msxvil mwarmoe-<br />

Cven, erTi mxriv, vsaubrobT, vTqvaT,<br />

startafebze da dawyebaze, blebsa da realizatorebs Soris,<br />

xolo misi ganxorcieleba drosa mas adgilis damkvidreba seriozulad<br />

gauWirdeba.<br />

da sivrceSi ukve meore mxarea,<br />

rogorc vTqviT da arsebuli sasamarTlo<br />

sistemidan gamomdinuri<br />

lifti”, romelsac sazoga-<br />

aris aseTi termini, „socialare,<br />

katastrofa aRiniSneba. amaze doebis rigiTi, Cveulebrivi wevris<br />

karieruli swrafi zrdisTvis<br />

ukve Zalian Riad daiwyes bizne-<br />

xelsayreli pirobebis erTobliobis<br />

aRsaniSnavad iyeneben. vTqvaT,<br />

ramdenad SesaZlebelia sofelSi<br />

dabadebuli, ubralo<br />

mSromeli glexis Svili gaizardos<br />

da gaxdes saxelmwifo moR-<br />

soso arCvaZe<br />

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akaki CargeiSvili<br />

`mSeneblobasTan dakavSirebuli Temebi roca<br />

gvaqvs, erTia kompaniis gaxsna erT dReSi, magram<br />

meorea, roca ukve mSeneblobis nebarTva<br />

gWirdeba, Sesabamisad, naxazebia aucilebeli da<br />

amis garda, ukve Tu raime sadavo sakiTxia, es,<br />

rogorc wesi, administraciul berketebsa da<br />

urTierTobebs ukavSirdeba. nebismieri sakiTxi,<br />

romelic gadawyvetilebis miRebas saWiroebs, aq<br />

ukve rTulad gvaqvs saqme. es katastrofaa,<br />

imitom, rom droSi gaWimul sasamarTlo davebs<br />

vRebulobT, romelic ramdenime dRes da erT, an<br />

or wels ki ara, sam, an oTx wels SeiZleba<br />

gagrZeldes. detalurad, roca bizness raime aqvs<br />

dagegmili da es realurad gadauwyvetelia, ukve<br />

biznesis warmoebas aferxebs da ukve cud<br />

mdgomareobaSi amyofebs damwyeb bizness.<br />

amitom erTi mxarea formaluri, roca biznesis<br />

gaxsnazea saubari da meore mxarea saqmis keTeba,<br />

ramdenad mobilizebulia saxelmwifo<br />

institutebi, ramdenad arian TavianTi<br />

gadawyvetilebebiT mzad, rom mxari dagiWiron<br />

konkretuli biznesis keTebaSi~<br />

`saxelmwifo bolo ori weliwadia atarebs<br />

"awarmoe saqarTveloSi" politikas, romlis<br />

mixedviTac calkeul seqtorSi warmoeba,<br />

mrewveloba, momsaxureba izrdeba, garkveuli<br />

finansuri daxmarebac xdeba, magram<br />

mTlianobaSi es mainc ar aris sakmarisi<br />

imisTvis, rom yvela msurveli, an msurvelTa<br />

didi nawili am mxardaWeriT dakmayofildes.<br />

amitom ufro meti resursia saWiro<br />

saamisod. anu, erTi mxriv, samarTlebrivi<br />

resursia saWiro biznesis warmoebisTvis da,<br />

meore mxriv, mwiri finansuri SesaZlebloba<br />

yvela msurvels saSualebas ar aZlevs, rom<br />

sakuTari gegmebis, miznebis, SesaZleblobebis<br />

motivacia uzrunvelyos~<br />

vawe, an mecnieri, Tu Sesabamisi<br />

pirobebi ar aqvs _ es calkeuli<br />

piris SemTxvevaSi, magram rac Seexeba<br />

biznesSi, aseTi „liftebis”<br />

arseboba sul ufro da ufro<br />

mcirdeba da msxvil biznesSi,<br />

romelsac instituciuri saxe<br />

aqvs, romelic Camoyalibebulia,<br />

Zalian gauWirdeba. mciredan msxvil<br />

biznesSi gadasvlas aucileblad<br />

sWirdeba didi kapitali,<br />

romelic rTuli mosaZiebeli<br />

xdeba.<br />

mcire biznesad Tu darCeba da<br />

ambicia ar eqneba, did biznesSi gadavides,<br />

es ukve sxva sakiTxia,<br />

magram Tu ufro „mZime woniT<br />

kategoriaSi” gadasvla problemebs<br />

qmnis, amaze dafiqrebaa saWiro,<br />

Tu ra unda gaakeTos saxelmwifom,<br />

rom Sesabamisi xelSewyobis<br />

reJimi gaCndes.<br />

_ komerciuli bankebi xom ar<br />

uSlian xels biznesis ganviTare-<br />

bas sesxebis argacemiT, radgan<br />

konkretul mwarmoebelSi konk-<br />

urents xedaven?<br />

_ aq, faqtobrivad, bazari<br />

struqturirebulia da zedmeti<br />

axali moTamaSis gaCena, miT ufro,<br />

konkurentis statusiT, aravis<br />

awyobs da amis daZleva Sesa-<br />

Zlebeli iqneba, roca TviTon bazris<br />

masStabebi imdenad gaizrdeba,<br />

rom dRevandeli monopolisti<br />

dakargavs Tavis eqskluziur<br />

uflebas, rom am bazarze Tavisi<br />

pirobebi ukarnaxos sxvas.<br />

SoTa gulbani _ axalgazrda<br />

finansistTa da biznesmenTa aso-<br />

ciaciis prezidenti:<br />

_ rodesac vsaubrobT nebismieri<br />

qveynis biznesgaremoze, sam<br />

mniSvnelovan faqtors unda mivaqcioT<br />

yuradReba _ pirveli: ramdenad<br />

daculia qveyanaSi sakuTrebis<br />

ufleba, meore: rogor progresirebs<br />

qveynis ZriTadi makroekonomikuri<br />

monacemebi, anu<br />

ramdenad swor ekonomikur politikas<br />

atarebs xelisufleba da<br />

mesame: ramdenad iolia qveyanaSi<br />

finansebze xelmisawvdomoba biznesis<br />

dasawyebad, an ganviTareba-gadaiaraRebisTvis.<br />

mokled Sevexebi TiToeul ma-<br />

Tgans. sakuTrebis uflebis dacvis<br />

kuTxiT Cvenma qveyanam Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovani progresi ganicada<br />

xelisuflebis cvlilebis Semdgom.<br />

magaliTad, msoflio ekonomikuri<br />

forumis mier 2013 wels<br />

gamoqveynebuli moxsenebis mixedviT,<br />

romelic 2012 wlis monacemebs<br />

eyrdnoboda, saqarTvelo 140<br />

qveyanas Soris 128-e adgilze iyo,<br />

xolo 2016 wlis moxsenebiT 64-e<br />

adgilze gadmovinacvleT. es mni-<br />

Svnelovani progresia da imaze<br />

metyvelebs, rom Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

xelisufleba bizness aRar aterorebs.<br />

zogadad, ekonomikuri ganviTarebisTvis<br />

es faqtori qvaku-<br />

Txeds warmoadgens, vinaidan biznesmens<br />

Tu ar aqvs gancda imisa,<br />

rom mis mier Seqmnil dovlaTs<br />

safrTxe ar emuqreba, mas ar eqneba<br />

stimuli awarmoos produqcia<br />

da daasaqmos adamianebi.<br />

rac Seexeba makroekonomikur<br />

monacemebs, am kuTxiTac saqarTvelom<br />

garkveuli progresi ganicada.<br />

Cven gvaxsovs ukanasknel<br />

wlebSi mZime ekonomikuri regionuli<br />

krizisi, rodesac Cvens samezobloSi<br />

uaryofiTi ekonomikuri<br />

zrda fiqsirdeboda, CvenTan<br />

ki ekonomika mainc izrdeboda. am<br />

kuTxiT biznesgaremo mniSvnelovnad<br />

daazarala laris kursis<br />

rxevebma, vinaidan CvenTan arsebuli<br />

produqtebis, daaxloebiT,<br />

80% importirebulia da biznesmenebi,<br />

erTi mxriv, informaciul<br />

vakuumSi imyofebodnen imis gamo,<br />

rom ar icodnen, ra daemarTeboda<br />

laris kurss dolarTan mimarTebiT<br />

da, meore mxriv, bizness<br />

gauZvirda dolarSi arsebuli<br />

valdebulebebi, aman ki potenciur<br />

investorebze, bunebrivia,<br />

uaryofiTad imoqmeda.<br />

da mesame faqtori: finansebze<br />

xelmisawvdomoba vaxsene, rac,<br />

Cemi azriT, mimzidveli biznesgaremos<br />

formirebisTvis erTerTi<br />

fundamenturad mniSvnelovani<br />

sakiTxia. am mxriv qveyanaSi<br />

TiTqmis erTaderT da ualternativo<br />

wyaros bankebi warmoadgenen,<br />

romlebic, maincdamainc, ar<br />

arian dainteresebuli biznessesxebis<br />

gacemiT da, ZiriTadad, orientirebuli<br />

arian moxmarebis dafinansebaze,<br />

rac azianebs ekonomikas.<br />

biznesgaremo ar gaumjobesebula<br />

am kuTxiT imitom, rom ar<br />

gaCenila qveyanaSi finansuri resursebis<br />

moZiebis alternatiuli<br />

wyaroebi, ar momxdara finansuri<br />

bazris diversificireba da masze<br />

axali moTamaSeebis Semosvla, romlebic<br />

sainvesticio garemos ufro<br />

mimzidvels gaxdidnen.<br />

Sesabamisad, Cven saxeze gvaqvs<br />

gaurkveveli gaumjobesebuli monacemebi<br />

biznesis sakeTeblad,<br />

Tumca problemebi kvlav arsebobs,<br />

rasac Zlieri da mkacri saxelmwifo<br />

politikis gatareba<br />

sWirdeba.<br />

sabolood, Tqven kvlav naxavT<br />

quCaSi gakrul gancxadebebs far-<br />

Tis gaqiraveba an dagiravebis<br />

Sesaxeb, saqarTvelo kvlav im safexurze<br />

dgas biznesis wamowyebis<br />

kuTxiT, razec bolos Catarebuli<br />

kvlevis mixedviT idga, magram<br />

rogor waadgeba arsebuli<br />

mdomareoba Cvens ekonomikas, es<br />

sakiTxi jerac azrTa sxvadasxvaobas<br />

iwvevs.<br />

21


laSa CxartiSvili:<br />

_ moqmedma mTavrobam kidev<br />

erTi hesis mSenebloba „gvaxara”.<br />

es aris onis hesebis kaskadi,<br />

romelic didi hesebis kategorias<br />

ganekuTvneba da romelTa<br />

akrZalvac moqmedi xelisuflebis<br />

saarCevno dapireba<br />

iyo. winamorbedi xelisufleba<br />

aRniSnulis warmoebas masobrivad,<br />

yovelgvari dasabuTebis<br />

gareSe cdilobda da cxadia,<br />

Cveni kritikis obieqti iyo. es<br />

ormagad kargad maxsovs, radgan<br />

maSindeli opoziciis, „qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis” policiis garemos<br />

dacvis jgufis xelmZRvaneli<br />

da asave maTi programis<br />

garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi<br />

resursebis marTvis Tavis avtori<br />

gaxldiT. Sesabamisad, maxsovs,<br />

rom iq namdvilad iyo<br />

saubari didi hidroeleqtrosadgurebis<br />

mSeneblobis akrZalvaze,<br />

Tumca aRniSnuli dapirebis<br />

darRvevis araerTgzis<br />

mcdeloba ki ara, darRvevac<br />

22<br />

Tamar oTiaSvili<br />

„moqmedma mTavrobam kidev erTi hesis mSenebloba „gvaxara”...<br />

win stiqiuri procesebis masobrivi gaaqtiureba da datborva<br />

gvelis, Tuki xelisufleba gaatarebs da gaitans am danaSaulebriv<br />

politikas, romelic sakuTari finansuri Tu poli-<br />

tikuri mogebisTvis midis”, _ ambobs „qronika+”-Tan saubri-<br />

sas ekologi, demokratiuli institutis xelmZRvaneli, laSa<br />

CxartiSvili da onis hesebis kaskadze amaxvilebs yuradRebas,<br />

romlis mSeneblobac a. w. zafxulSi unda daiwyos.<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

didi xania, ukve saxezea. kidev<br />

erTi amdagvari SemTxveva onis<br />

hesebis kaskadia da problemebi<br />

igive rCeba. es aris masStaburi<br />

gavlena bunebaze, garemoze,<br />

Sesabamisad, samomavlod<br />

gaxSirebuli bunebrivi katastrofebi<br />

da maRali albaTobiT<br />

msxverpli adamianTa Soris. xelisuflebas<br />

110 hesis mSeneblobis<br />

survili aqvs, amis Sesaxeb,<br />

daaxloebiT, erTi wlis win<br />

gaJRerda energetikis saministroSi.<br />

aqedan 28-30 did heszea<br />

saubari, rac, ubralod, damangreveli<br />

Sedegebis momtani iqneba<br />

da Cveni qveynidan ra dar-<br />

Ceba? magram es SemTxveva, razec<br />

axla minda visaubroT, sainteresoa<br />

ori ramis gamo: jer<br />

erTi, rom SedarebiT axalia,<br />

anu am mSeneblobis Sesaxeb, daaxloebiT,<br />

ramdenime kviris win<br />

gaJRerda. meore mxriv, gaJRerda<br />

rogorc Semdgari faqti,<br />

rac ukve naklebad axalia, imitom,<br />

rom CvenTan es praqtika<br />

`onis hesebis kaskadi raWa-leCxumisa da qvemo<br />

svaneTis mxareSi, onis municipalitetSi,<br />

mdinare rionSi unda aSendes. rogorc Sps<br />

`feris~ aRmasrulebeli direqtori, laSa<br />

iordaniSvili acxadebs, samSeneblo nebarTva,<br />

jerjerobiT, namdvilad ar miuRiaT. sanebarTvo<br />

procedurebi, savaraudod, 3 Tvis vadaSi<br />

dasruldeba da onis hesebis kaskadis<br />

mSeneblobas zafxulSi daiwyeben. winasaproeqto<br />

kvlevebis angariSi ukve dasrulebulia.<br />

aRniSnuli kvleva germanulma kompania `la<br />

maierma~ Caatara, garemoze zemoqmedebis Sefaseba<br />

ki - kompania `gamam~. 200-megavatiani hesis<br />

(Tavdapirvelad 280 megavatiani hesis mSenebloba<br />

iyo gansazRvruli) sainvesticio Rirebuleba 335<br />

milioni dolaria. Sps `feri~ hess<br />

Tanainvestirebis fondTan erTad aSenebs. imis<br />

gaTvaliswinebiT, rom garemos naklebi ziani<br />

miadges, iordanaSvilis ganmartebiT, hess<br />

kaSxali ar eqneba, igi modinebaze imuSavebs. hesis<br />

mSenebloba 4-5 weliwadSi unda dasruldes~<br />

laSa CxartiSvili:<br />

`onis hesebis<br />

kaskadis<br />

mSeneblobaSi<br />

biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis<br />

komerciuli<br />

interesia!~<br />

winamorbedma xelisuflebam<br />

daamkvidra da mankieri da danaSaulebrivi<br />

midgomebis Ziri-<br />

Tadi umravlesoba moqmedma xelisuflebamac<br />

gadmoiRo, imitom,<br />

rom ar SeiZleba faqtze,<br />

rogorc Semdgarze saubari,<br />

Tu nebarTva ar arsebobs. amas-<br />

Tanave, sainteresoa imiT, Tu<br />

vis kompanias Tu yofil kompanias<br />

ukavSirdeba es mSenebloba,<br />

Tumca ara mgonia, rom es<br />

yofili iyos, radgan saubaria<br />

infrastruqturisa da regionuli<br />

ganviTarebis saministroze<br />

da mis ministr zurab alaviZeze.<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

swored es adamiani gaxldaT<br />

„dariali enerji hesis” direqtori,<br />

romelic kompania „ferisTan”<br />

erTad im avadsaxsenebeli<br />

kaSxlebis mSenebeli iyo,<br />

romelic ramdenjerme wyalma<br />

waiRi da, sabolo jamSi, am katastrofas<br />

11 adamiani Seewira.<br />

gvaxsovs TergTan tragediac<br />

da SeiZleba sruli nonsensi da<br />

katastrofa davarqvaT im<br />

faqts, rom es adamiani, am proeqtebis<br />

xelmZRvaneli dainiSna<br />

ministrad. es adamiani, amasTanave,<br />

gaxldaT „nacionaluri<br />

moZraobis” msxvili Semomwirvelic.<br />

am mxriv, gasagebia, rom<br />

sruliad miuRebelia misi ministrad<br />

daniSvna da axla ukve<br />

isev am adamianis saxelTan dakavSirebuli<br />

kompaniis mier didi<br />

hesebis kaskadis mSeneblobis<br />

Sesaxeb ase xmamaRla gacxadda,<br />

TiTqosda ukve yvelaferi<br />

gadawyvetilia. sinamdvileSi,<br />

es yvelaferi jer ar gadawyvetila.<br />

es damokidebulia sazogadoebis<br />

aqtiurobaze. xudonhesis<br />

SeCereba, rac ar unda<br />

sxva mizezebze vilaparakoT,<br />

pirvel rigSi, swored svaneTis<br />

mosaxleobis damsaxurebaa. rac<br />

Seexeba Tavad alaviZis figuras,<br />

yvelaferi, razec Cven visaubreT,<br />

rbilad rom vTqvaT<br />

da prezumpfcia ar davarRvioT,<br />

mxolod da mxolod, formaluri<br />

TvalsazrisiT, eWvs badebs,<br />

rom aSkara korufciul<br />

garigebebTan gvaqvs saqme am SemTxvevaSic,<br />

iseve, rogorc sxva<br />

kaSxlebis SemTxvevaSi. Tundac<br />

sxva nebismieri tipis kaSxali<br />

rom aviRoT, arc erT SemTxvevaSi<br />

dasabuTeba ar arsebobs.<br />

Tan kabaluri xelSekrulebebia<br />

gaformebuli, maT Soris, moqmedi<br />

xelisuflebis mxridanac,<br />

rac, saboloo jamSi, garemos,<br />

bunebis, eklesiis, adamianebis<br />

Sewirvis xarjze arafers iZleva<br />

saxelmwifosTvis. es yovelive<br />

iseve exeba onis hesebis<br />

kaskads, rogorc sxva nebismier<br />

msgavs SemTxvevas.<br />

_ mgoni, onis hesebis kaska-<br />

dis mSenebloba, jer kidev,<br />

2008 wlisTvis igegmeboda,<br />

xom?<br />

_ ara marto onis hesebis kaskadis<br />

mSenebloba, Tumca dagegmva<br />

da survili es erTia, magram<br />

Semdgari faqti ar yofila<br />

arc maSin da arc axla.<br />

_ acxadeben, winasaproeqto<br />

kvlevebi ukve Catarebulia da<br />

mSenebloba zafxulSi daiwye-<br />

bao.<br />

_ es ase ar aris, realurad,<br />

garemos zemoqmedebis Sefasebis<br />

kvlevac ki ar Catarebula,<br />

arc nebarTva aqvs aRebuli am<br />

kompanias da danaSaulebrivi<br />

praqtikaa, roca aranairi proceduruli,<br />

Tundac minimaluri<br />

mosamzadebeli samuSaoebi<br />

ar aris ganxorcielebuli da<br />

ukve Semdgar faqtad gvasaReben.<br />

es, ubralod, kanonsawinaaRmdego<br />

qmedebaa. amgvar qmedebas<br />

eweoda winamorbedi xelisuflebac.<br />

magaliTad, roca<br />

Tu ar vcdebi, orjer gaixsna<br />

hesis mSenebloba formalurad<br />

da simbolurad kafsulac ki<br />

damarxa. Semdeg ukve RaribaSvilma<br />

gaxsna is da nebarTva<br />

gzaSi daawia dRevandeli garemos<br />

dacvis ministrma gigla<br />

22 N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.


agulaSvilma. Tumca aq ukve ministrebs<br />

da premierministrs<br />

rac Seexeba, yvelani simbolur<br />

figurebad gvevlineba. yvelam<br />

kargad viciT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

piradi neba-surviliT<br />

xorcieldeba msgavsi moqmedebebi.<br />

am procedurebis Tundac<br />

simbolurad dacvasac ar cdiloben,<br />

Tanmimdevrobas ar icaven,<br />

Tu rogor SeiZleba ganxorcieldes<br />

esa Tu is proeqti.<br />

aris calkeuli proeqtebi, romlis<br />

erTaderTi mizania nebismier,<br />

Tundac adamianis sicocxlis<br />

fasad, Tundac unikaluri<br />

bunebrivi da kulturuli memkvidreobis<br />

ganadgurebis fasad,<br />

didi Semosavlebi miiRon<br />

umaRlesi Tanamdebobis pirebma<br />

da, ra Tqma unda, igive biZina<br />

ivaniSvilsac aqvs am yvelaferSi<br />

komerciuli interesi. es<br />

Cemi absoluturad safuZvliani<br />

varaudia, radgan mis gareSe<br />

294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />

`ministrebs da premierministrs rac Seexeba, yvelani simbolur figurebad<br />

gvevlineba. yvelam kargad viciT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis piradi neba-<br />

surviliT xorcieldeba msgavsi moqmedebebi. am procedurebis Tundac<br />

simbolurad dacvasac ar cdiloben, Tanmimdevrobas ar icaven, Tu rogor<br />

SeiZleba ganxorcieldes esa Tu is proeqti. aris calkeuli proeqtebi,<br />

romlis erTaderTi mizania nebismier, Tundac adamianis sicocxlis fasad,<br />

Tundac unikaluri bunebrivi da kulturuli memkvidreobis ganadgurebis<br />

fasad, didi Semosavlebi miiRon umaRlesi Tanamdebobis pirebma da, ra<br />

Tqma unda, igive biZina ivaniSvilsac aqvs am yvelaferSi komerciuli<br />

interesi. es Cemi absoluturad safuZvliani varaudia, radgan mis gareSe am<br />

qveyanaSi aseTi ki ara, gacilebiT humanuri sakiTxebi ar wydeba. meore<br />

mxriv, es aris biujetis Sevsebis, biujetSi arsebuli xvrelebisa Tu ormoebis<br />

amovsebis yovlad miuRebeli praqtika~<br />

am qveyanaSi aseTi ki ara, gacilebiT<br />

humanuri sakiTxebi ar<br />

wydeba. meore mxriv, es aris<br />

biujetis Sevsebis, biujetSi<br />

arsebuli xvrelebisa Tu ormoebis<br />

amovsebis yovlad miuRebeli<br />

praqtika. amgvari moqmedeba<br />

emsgavseba gakotrebuli<br />

adamianis qmedebas, romelic<br />

mzad aris, yvelaferi gayidos,<br />

rom raRac erTi Tu ori<br />

TviT Tavi gadairCinos, Tumca<br />

amas Semdeg ra Sedegamde mihyavs<br />

ojaxi an saxelmwifo, yvelam<br />

kargad viciT.<br />

_ mosaxleoba ras ambobs am<br />

yvelafris Sesaxeb?<br />

_ Cven gvaxsovs „sadmeli hesisa”<br />

da sxva hesebis istoria,<br />

romelmac sakmaod didi saprotesto<br />

talRa gamoiwvia. raWa-<br />

Si aTas kacze meti adgilobrivi<br />

mkvidri Seikriba, rac raWisTvis<br />

kolosaluri cifria.<br />

SeiZleba, vinmes mcire raodenobad<br />

moeCvenos, magram Tu<br />

gaviTvaliswinebT, rom raWa,<br />

praqtikulad, daclilia mosaxleobisgan,<br />

aTasi adamiani ukidures<br />

umravlesobas niSnavs.<br />

bevrs saubroben prioritetebze,<br />

magram, saboloo jamSi,<br />

turistul potencials ase epyrobian,<br />

romelic, upirveles<br />

yovlisa, swored kulturul<br />

da bunebriv memkvidreobas, mis<br />

mravalferovnebas emyareba,<br />

riTac SeiZleba saintereso viyoT<br />

turistul bazarze. hesebisa<br />

da kaSxlebis sanaxavad,<br />

bunebrivia, saqarTveloSi aravin<br />

Camova. amgvar proeqtebs<br />

ekosistema ewireba. Sesabamisad,<br />

aseTi midgoma, ubralod,<br />

moRalateobrivia.<br />

aravis dausabuTebia, arc energetikis<br />

saministros, arc<br />

mTavrobas, rom saqarTvelos,<br />

met-naklebad, gardauvali aucilebloba<br />

gaaCnia damatebiTi,<br />

miT umetes, aseTi msxvili energoobieqtebis<br />

mSeneblobisa<br />

da energiis resursebis, imitom,<br />

rom Cven ar gvaqvs ekonomikuri<br />

politikis ganmsazRvreli<br />

srulfasovani dokumenti.<br />

saerTod, komerciuladac<br />

saeWvoa es proeqtebi, seriozul<br />

STabeWdilebas tovebs,<br />

rom fulis gaTeTrebasTan gvaqvs<br />

saqme. Tundac proeqtis samjer<br />

Tavidan dawyeba tovebs<br />

eWvs, rom aq ukve komerciul<br />

mogebazec aRar aris saubari.<br />

_ SeaCerebs raime mSeneblo-<br />

bas?<br />

_ msgavs danaSaulebriv qmedebebze,<br />

Tavis droze, sabWoTa<br />

kavSirsac ki aTqmevina uari ma-<br />

Sindeli mecnierebisa da sazogadoebis<br />

azrma. maSin es kecxovelis,<br />

gulisaSvilisa da sxva<br />

didi mecnierebisa da sazogado<br />

moRvaweebis, mTeli qarTveli<br />

sazogadoebis damsaxureba<br />

iyo. axlac, am yoveliveze uaris<br />

Tqmisa da SeCerebis erTaderTi<br />

avtori da sawinaaRmdego<br />

mxare sazogadoeba da is calkeuli<br />

adamianebi, specialistebi<br />

arian, romlebic daasabuTeben<br />

(da, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />

dasabuTebuli gvaqvs), rom es<br />

yovelive Zalian mZime da damangreveli<br />

Sedegis momtania.<br />

Tumca Cveni azri mxolod azrad<br />

darCeba, Tu adgilobrivi<br />

mosaxleoba aqtiuri ar iqneba.<br />

da kidev erTi sakiTxi: garda<br />

aqciebisa da samarTlebrivi<br />

gzis gamoyenebisa, didi xania,<br />

vsaubrob, rom Cvens mcire organizacias,<br />

demokratiis instituts,<br />

praqtikulad, aranairi<br />

resursi ar gaaCnia, rom referendumisTvis<br />

aucilebeli saorganizacio<br />

sakiTxebis daZleva<br />

moaxerxos. samwuxarod, am<br />

mimarTulebiT Zalian cota politikuri<br />

organizacia Tu<br />

akeTebs rames.<br />

Zalian kargia, rom Tundac<br />

miwis msxvil kompaniebsa da ucxoeTis<br />

moqalaqeebze gasxvisebis<br />

winaaRmdeg gamodian adamianebi,<br />

magram me maT movuwodebdi,<br />

rom am sakiTxzec ifiqron,<br />

imitom, rom arc gasasxvisebeli<br />

darCeba rame, arc damatebi-<br />

Ti okupaciisgan dasacavi, Tuki<br />

yvela es proeqti da Tundac<br />

maTi mniSvnelovani nawili ganxorcielda.<br />

arada, masStabi<br />

Zalian didia, es ar aris marto<br />

raWa, es aris leCxumi, xevi,<br />

svaneTi, mTiani aWara...<br />

***<br />

`moqmedma mTavrobam kidev erTi hesis<br />

mSenebloba "gvaxara". es aris onis hesebis<br />

kaskadi, romelic didi hesebis kategorias<br />

ganekuTvneba da romelTa akrZalvac moqmedi<br />

xelisuflebis saarCevno dapireba iyo.<br />

winamorbedi xelisufleba aRniSnulis<br />

warmoebas masobrivad, yovelgvari<br />

dasabuTebis gareSe cdilobda da cxadia,<br />

Cveni kritikis obieqti iyo. es ormagad<br />

kargad maxsovs, radgan maSindeli<br />

opoziciis, "qarTuli ocnebis" policiis<br />

garemos dacvis jgufis xelmZRvaneli da asave<br />

maTi programis garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi<br />

resursebis marTvis Tavis avtori gaxldiT.<br />

Sesabamisad, maxsovs, rom iq namdvilad iyo<br />

saubari didi hidroeleqtrosadgurebis<br />

mSeneblobis akrZalvaze, Tumca aRniSnuli<br />

dapirebis darRvevis araerTgzis mcdeloba ki<br />

ara, darRvevac didi xania, ukve saxezea~<br />

onis hesebis kaskadi raWaleCxumisa<br />

da qvemo svaneTis<br />

mxareSi, onis municipalitet-<br />

Si, mdinare rionSi unda aSendes.<br />

rogorc Sps „feris” aRmasrulebeli<br />

direqtori, laSa<br />

iordaniSvili acxadebs, sam-<br />

Seneblo nebarTva, jerjerobiT,<br />

namdvilad ar miuRiaT. sanebarTvo<br />

procedurebi, savaraudod,<br />

3 Tvis vadaSi dasruldeba<br />

da onis hesebis kaskadis<br />

mSeneblobas zafxulSi daiwyeben.<br />

winasaproeqto kvlevebis<br />

angariSi ukve dasrulebulia.<br />

aRniSnuli kvleva germanulma<br />

kompania „la maierma” Caatara,<br />

garemoze zemoqmedebis Sefaseba<br />

ki _ kompania „gamam”.<br />

200-megavatiani hesis (Tavdapirvelad<br />

280 megavatiani hesis<br />

mSenebloba iyo gansazRvruli)<br />

sainvesticio Rirebuleba 335<br />

milioni dolaria.<br />

Sps „feri” hess Tanainvestirebis<br />

fondTan erTad aSenebs.<br />

imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom<br />

garemos naklebi ziani miadges,<br />

iordanaSvilis ganmartebiT,<br />

hess kaSxali ar eqneba, igi modinebaze<br />

imuSavebs. hesis mSenebloba<br />

4-5 weliwadSi unda dasruldes.<br />

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profkavSirebidan da ombudsmenis aparatidan mxari dauWires.<br />

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dentia Jurnalisti laSa mesxi:<br />

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blokis direqtorma gvimraZem.<br />

mokled, CemTan TanamSromlobas<br />

veRar gaagrZlebda da mirCia,<br />

rom Zalebi ara JurnalistikaSi,<br />

aramed sxvagan momesinja, radgan,<br />

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maincdamainc, kargad ar gamomdis.<br />

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me, aramed saxalxo damcveli<br />

da yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani<br />

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absoluturi ugulebelyofiT,<br />

camet Jurnalists, erTTviani<br />

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mxolod me gavxdi.<br />

es im realobaSi, rodesac televiziaSi<br />

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procedura CemTan da arc aravisTan<br />

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rac kidev ufro amZafrebs eWvs,<br />

rom es gansxvavebuli azris pirdapiri<br />

diskreditacia, devnaa da, yvelaferTan<br />

erTad, profkavSiruli<br />

saqmianobis Seviwroebaa.<br />

_ profkavSirul saqmianobas<br />

ra formiT ukavSirdeba?<br />

_ Cven wina wlis maisSi sazogadoebriv<br />

mauwyebelSi profesiuli<br />

gaerTianeba SevqmeniT, romelsac<br />

am dromde me vxelmZRvanelob. samsaxurSi<br />

viqnebi Tu ara, mainc profkavSirebis<br />

Tavmjdomared vrCebi.<br />

es, albaT, ver gaTvales.<br />

amas plus maisis movlenebs Tu<br />

gavixsenebT, Cven koleqtiuri dava<br />

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mauwyebelSi 600-ze<br />

met damians 10 da 20%-iT xelfasi<br />

gaezarda, maT Soris, im adamianebs,<br />

romlebic Cveni gaerTianebis wevrebi<br />

ar iyvnen.<br />

rasakvirvelia, es menejmentis-<br />

Tvis miuRebeli iyo. aseve sxvadasxva<br />

darRvevaze xmamaRla vsaubrobdi<br />

da axali menejmentis mosvlis<br />

Semdegac, ra Tqma unda, vambobdi,<br />

rom dasaqmebuli mTavari<br />

prioritetia da ar SeiZleba, ase<br />

erTi xelis mosmiT adamianebi samsaxuridan<br />

daiTxovo. Sesabamisad,<br />

profesiuli kavSiris es da sxva aqtivobebi<br />

maTTvis miuRebeli iyo<br />

da amis gamo me dRes saxlSi var.<br />

_ ras apirebT?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, am yvelafers ar<br />

SeveguebiT, radgan es CvenTvis Rirsebis<br />

saqmea. amasTan pirdapir<br />

getyviT, rom ara marto samarTlebriv,<br />

aramed sxvadasxva saprotesto<br />

formasac gamoviyenebT am ukanonobis,<br />

sruli sibnelisa da diskriminaciis<br />

aRmosafxvrelad.<br />

sworad rom agixsnaT, es aris<br />

24<br />

pirdapiri mesiji sxva TanamSromlebisTvis,<br />

romlebic „bedaven” da<br />

dRemde menejments upirispirdebian.<br />

ai, Tu Tqven ase mesxiviT xmas<br />

amoiRebT, igive bedi geliTo. es ar<br />

gauvaT. diax, Cven gamowveva miRebuli<br />

gvaqvs da aqedan gamarjvebis<br />

gareSe ar gavalT.<br />

_ ras gegmaven sxva JurnalistebTan,<br />

gadacemebTan mimarTe-<br />

biT?<br />

_ maTi qmedebebi absoluturad<br />

gaugebaria da erTmaneTTan TanxvedraSi<br />

ar modis. problema aqvs<br />

gadacema „realur sivrces”, romelsac<br />

raRac gaugebari kontraqtebi<br />

daudes. nino zautaSvili,<br />

TiTqos, moambis TanamSromlad<br />

unda gadaeyvanaT, razec misgan,<br />

rasakvirvelia, uari miiRes. aseve<br />

principul uars miiReben yvela im<br />

gadawyvetilebaze, romelic dasaqmebulTan<br />

SeTanxmebuli (misTvis<br />

misaRebi) ar iqneba.<br />

droa, wina menejmentis gamocdileba<br />

kargad gaiziaros axalma menejmentma,<br />

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gvinda da es imiT ar unda<br />

iwyebodes, rom gansxvavebul azrs<br />

Tavidan iSorebdnen. Tu Cven sworeba<br />

evrokavSirze, „bibisisa” da<br />

„sienenis” standartebze gvaqvs,<br />

TanamSromlebs sabWoTa meTodebiT<br />

ar unda vebrZodeT.<br />

sapasuxo komentarisTvis sazogadoebrivi<br />

mauwyeblis generaluri<br />

direqtoris, vasil maR-<br />

laferiZis mrCevels _ ia anTaZes<br />

davukavSirdiT:<br />

_ iciT, albaT, rom laSa mesxs<br />

laSa mesxi<br />

vasil maRlaferiZe<br />

ra iqneba maRlaferiZe-<br />

anTaZis axali SeTavazeba?!<br />

xelSekrulebis vada daumTavrda<br />

da misma uSualo ufrosebma gadawyvites,<br />

aRar gaugrZelon. xelSekruleba<br />

imitom arsebobs, rom<br />

rodesac misi vada amoiwureba,<br />

gagrZeldes, an ar gagrZeldes. amas<br />

is adamianebi wyveten, visTanac<br />

uSualod muSaobs piri, visac xelSekrulebis<br />

vada umTavrdeba.<br />

Sexvedrisas vasil maRlaferiZem<br />

mas uTxra, rom ramdenadac<br />

iuridiuli samsaxuri ambobs, am<br />

gadawyvetilebaSi raime darRveva<br />

ar aris, _ erTaderTi sasamarTlos<br />

gza rCeba da Tu sasamarTlo<br />

gadawyvets, darRveviT ganTavisuflda,<br />

me viqnebi pirveli, vinc mis<br />

ukan dabrunebas mogilocavT da<br />

siamovnebiT viTanamSromlebTo;<br />

Cvens iuridiul samsaxursac<br />

ecodineba, rom Secdoma dauSvao.<br />

_ laSa mesxi masTan gaforme-<br />

bul erTTvian xelSekrulebaze<br />

saubrobs. es ramdenad marTebuli<br />

damokidebulebaa TanamSrom-<br />

lis mimarT?<br />

_ amaze komentars ver gavake-<br />

Teb. erTaderTi Cveni organizaciis<br />

iuridiuli samsaxuris komentari<br />

maqvs, romelic ambobs, rom<br />

araviTari kanondarRveva, arc erT<br />

etapze, laSasTan urTierTobaSi<br />

ar yofila. swored amitom saWiroa<br />

sasamarTlo, rom man iuridiuli<br />

procedurebis kuTxiT gaarkvios,<br />

laSa aris marTali (roca ambobs,<br />

rom iq Secdoma dauSves), Tu Cveni<br />

iuridiuli samsaxuri (romelic<br />

ambobs, rom Secdoma ar dauSviaT)?<br />

iuristi ar var da mxolod imas<br />

vimeoreb, rac orive mxridan mesmis.<br />

amasTan dakavSirebiT Cemi azri,<br />

ubralod, ar SeiZleba mqondes,<br />

radgan ufro kompetenturi ver<br />

iqneba, vidre Cveni iuridiuli samsaxuris<br />

poziciaa.<br />

_ rogor gagrZeldeba reformis<br />

procesi satelevizio gadacemebTan,<br />

maT Soris, nino zautaSvilis<br />

„realur sivrcesTan” mima-<br />

rTebiT?<br />

_ es saintereso Temaa, radgan<br />

samSabaTs sameurveo sabWos sxdoma<br />

aris daniSnuli. vfiqrobT, rom<br />

es procesi samSabaTs damTavrdeba,<br />

rodesac Cven da sameurveo sabWo<br />

reformis gasatareblad iseT<br />

gzas veZebdiT, romelic misaRebi<br />

iqneboda rogorc maTTvis, aseve<br />

CvenTvis.<br />

is, rom reforma da cvlilebebi<br />

aucilebelia, amaze ar vdaobdiT<br />

da pirvelive Sexvedrisas<br />

SevTanxmdiT. oRond sadavo iyo<br />

gza, es reforma rogor unda gatarebuliyo.<br />

Cven ufro grZel<br />

nabijs vTavazobdiT reformisken,<br />

anu mis ufro swrafad Catarebas<br />

da dasrulebas. Tumca sabWos miaCnia,<br />

rom sjobs reforma droSi<br />

gaxangrZlivdes, Sedegi ufro gvian<br />

gvqondes da, am etapze, es Zalian<br />

mtkivneuli ar iyos. maqsimalurad<br />

umtkivneulo iyos rogorc Tanam-<br />

SromlebisTvis, aseve mayureblisTvisac.<br />

raRac kompromisuli gza mov-<br />

ZebneT da samSabaTs es versia ukve<br />

`ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb 28 Tebervals Cemma<br />

uSualo ufrosma Sematyobina, axali da<br />

mimdinare ambebis blokis direqtorma gvimraZem.<br />

mokled, CemTan TanamSromlobas veRar<br />

gaagrZlebda da mirCia, rom Zalebi ara<br />

JurnalistikaSi, aramed sxvagan momesinja,<br />

radgan, rogorc man Tqva, Jurnalistika,<br />

maincdamainc, kargad ar gamomdis.<br />

vfiqrob, es yvelaferi pirdapiri diskriminaciaa,<br />

razec ara marto me, aramed saxalxo damcveli<br />

da yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani aqcents<br />

akeTebs. Sromis kodeqsis absoluturi<br />

ugulebelyofiT, camet Jurnalists, erTTviani<br />

kontraqti dagvides. aqedan, Tvis bolos,<br />

ufrosobisTvis miuRebeli mxolod me gavxdi. es<br />

im realobaSi, rodesac televiziaSi profesiuli<br />

gamocda, testi, Sefaseba, aranairi msgavsi<br />

procedura CemTan da arc aravisTan mimarTebiT<br />

ar Catarebula, rac kidev ufro amZafrebs eWvs,<br />

rom es gansxvavebuli azris pirdapiri<br />

diskreditacia, devnaa da, yvelaferTan erTad,<br />

profkavSiruli saqmianobis Seviwroebaa~<br />

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mZime samSabaTi<br />

`samSabaTs sameurveo sabWos sxdoma aris<br />

daniSnuli. vfiqrobT, rom es procesi samSabaTs<br />

damTavrdeba, rodesac Cven da sameurveo sabWo<br />

reformis gasatareblad iseT gzas veZebdiT,<br />

romelic misaRebi iqneboda rogorc maTTvis,<br />

aseve CvenTvis. is, rom reforma da cvlilebebi<br />

aucilebelia, amaze ar vdaobdiT da pirvelive<br />

Sexvedrisas SevTanxmdiT. oRond sadavo iyo gza,<br />

es reforma rogor unda gatarebuliyo. Cven<br />

ufro grZel nabijs vTavazobdiT reformisken,<br />

anu mis ufro swrafad Catarebas da dasrulebas.<br />

Tumca sabWos miaCnia, rom sjobs reforma droSi<br />

gaxangrZlivdes, Sedegi ufro gvian gvqondes da,<br />

am etapze, es Zalian mtkivneuli ar iyos.<br />

maqsimalurad umtkivneulo iyos rogorc<br />

TanamSromlebisTvis, aseve mayureblisTvisac.<br />

raRac kompromisuli gza movZebneT da samSabaTs<br />

es versia ukve sazogadoebisTvis cnobili iqneba,<br />

anu versia, romelzec mmarTveli gundi da<br />

sameurveo sabWo SevjerdiT~<br />

sazogadoebisTvis cnobili iqneba,<br />

anu versia, romelzec mmarTveli<br />

gundi da sameurveo sabWo SevjerdiT.<br />

nino zautaSvili<br />

nino zautaSvili _ sateleviz-<br />

io gadacema „realuri sivrcis”<br />

wamyvani:<br />

_ me mxolod is vici, rac Tqven.<br />

isini gegmas samSabaTs warmoadgenen<br />

da Sesabamisad, Cvenc yvelafers<br />

maSin gavigebT. simarTle gi-<br />

TxraT, am wuTSi aranairi warmodgena<br />

ar maqvs, ra gegmazea saubari,<br />

radgan farTo auditorias pirvelad<br />

warudgenen. gadawyvetilebasac<br />

amis mixedviT miviRebT.<br />

laSa mesxis samsaxuridan gaSvebas<br />

saqarTvelos metalurgiu-<br />

li, samTo da qimiuri mrewvelob-<br />

is muSakTa profesiuli kavSiris<br />

Tavmjdomare, Tamaz dalaberiZe<br />

afasebs:<br />

_ saqarTvelos metalurgiuli,<br />

samTo da qimiuri mrewvelobis<br />

muSakTa profesiuli kavSiri gmobs<br />

sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis profesiuli<br />

kavSiris lideris, laSa<br />

mesxis samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebas<br />

da am faqts afasebs, rogorc<br />

sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis administraciis<br />

pirdapir Setevas dasaqmebulTa<br />

im fundamentur da ganuxrel<br />

uflebebze, romelic maT<br />

eniWebaT saqarTvelos konstituciiT,<br />

saerTaSoriso konvenciebiT<br />

da saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT.<br />

civilizebuli Tanamedrove<br />

msoflio SeTanxmebulia, rom profesiuli<br />

kavSiri aris dasaqmebul-<br />

Ta gaerTianeba, romelic warmoadgens<br />

wevrTa interesebs da ufleba<br />

aqvs, damsaqmebelTan awarmoos<br />

koleqtiuri molaparakebebi, monawileoba<br />

miiRos koleqtiuri SromiTi<br />

davebis mogvarebis procesSi,<br />

N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />

ia anTaZe<br />

`me mxolod is vici, rac Tqven. isini gegmas samSabaTs<br />

warmoadgenen da Sesabamisad, Cvenc yvelafers maSin<br />

gavigebT. simarTle giTxraT, am wuTSi aranairi<br />

warmodgena ar maqvs, ra gegmazea saubari, radgan<br />

farTo auditorias pirvelad warudgenen.<br />

gadawyvetilebasac amis mixedviT miviRebT~<br />

kanoniT daSvebuli yvela meTodis<br />

gamoyenebiT gamovides dasaqmebulTa<br />

uflebebis dasacavad.<br />

Sromis saerTaSoriso organizaciis<br />

umTavresi standarti,<br />

„sammxrivi socialuri dialogi”,<br />

swored imas gulisxmobs, rom profesiuli<br />

kavSiri aris socialuri<br />

partnioris statusis matarebeli<br />

institucia da socialur partniorebs<br />

Soris Tanabaruflebianobisa<br />

da Tanasworobis principebis<br />

dasacavad, profkavSiris liderTa<br />

dacvis garantiebi kanonmdeblobebiT<br />

aris gamyarebuli, magaliTad:<br />

saqarTvelos konstitucia _<br />

muxli 26:<br />

1. yvelas aqvs sazogadoebrivi<br />

gaerTianebebis, maT Soris, profesiuli<br />

kavSirebis Seqmnisa da maT-<br />

Si gaerTianebis ufleba.<br />

saqarTvelos kanoni profesiuli<br />

kavSirebis Sesaxeb _ muxli 23:<br />

3. dauSvebelia damsaqmebelTa<br />

iniciativiT, Sesabamisi profkav-<br />

Siruli organos winaswari Tanxmobis<br />

gareSe, ZiriTad samuSaoze<br />

dasaqmebuli arCeviTi profkavSiruli<br />

organos Tavmjdomaris, wevris,<br />

proforganizatorisa da profjguforgis<br />

samuSaodan daTxovna,<br />

sxva samuSaoze gadayvana, an disciplinuri<br />

wesiT dasja, garda kanonmdeblobiT<br />

gaTvaliswinebuli SemTxvevebisa.<br />

saqarTvelos kanoni profesiuli<br />

kavSirebis Sesaxeb _ muxli 24:<br />

2. profkavSirul organoSi ar-<br />

Ceuli muSakis damsaqmeblis iniciativiT<br />

daTxovna misi arCeviTi<br />

uflebamosilebis damTavrebis<br />

Semdeg ar SeiZleba erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />

garda kanonmdeblobiT<br />

gaTvaliswinebuli SemTxvevebisa.<br />

iqidan gamomdinare, rom sazogadoebrivi<br />

mauwyebeli ar gaxlavT<br />

kerZo kompania da misi marTva xorcieldeba<br />

saxelmwifo meqanizmebis<br />

gamoyenebiT, sazogadoebrivi<br />

mauwyeblis profesiuli kavSiris<br />

Tamaz dolaberiZe<br />

`civilizebuli Tanamedrove msoflio<br />

SeTanxmebulia, rom profesiuli kavSiri aris<br />

dasaqmebulTa gaerTianeba, romelic warmoadgens<br />

wevrTa interesebs da ufleba aqvs,<br />

damsaqmebelTan awarmoos koleqtiuri<br />

molaparakebebi, monawileoba miiRos koleqtiuri<br />

SromiTi davebis mogvarebis procesSi, kanoniT<br />

daSvebuli yvela meTodis gamoyenebiT gamovides<br />

dasaqmebulTa uflebebis dasacavad. Sromis<br />

saerTaSoriso organizaciis umTavresi<br />

standarti, "sammxrivi socialuri dialogi",<br />

swored imas gulisxmobs, rom profesiuli<br />

kavSiri aris socialuri partnioris statusis<br />

matarebeli institucia da socialur<br />

partniorebs Soris Tanabaruflebianobisa da<br />

Tanasworobis principebis dasacavad,<br />

profkavSiris liderTa dacvis garantiebi<br />

kanonmdeblobebiT aris gamyarebuli~<br />

arCeuli lideris, laSa mesxis samsaxuridan<br />

ganTavisuflebas vafasebT,<br />

rogorc saxelmwifos mier<br />

Cadenil ukanono, danaSaulebriv<br />

da diskriminaciul qmedebas, rac<br />

saqarTvelosTvis reputacias<br />

aucileblad daazianebs.<br />

migvaCnia, rom saxelmwifo Tavad<br />

unda iyos sityvisa da azris gamoxatvis<br />

Tavisuflebis, asociaciis<br />

Tavisuflebisa da, zogadad, kanonmdeblobis<br />

dacvis garanti, Sesabamisad,<br />

saqarTvelos metalurgiuli,<br />

samTo da qimiuri mrewvelobis<br />

muSakTa profesiuli kav-<br />

Siri mouwodebs sazogadoebrivi<br />

mauwyeblis administracias, _ saswrafod<br />

Secvalos sakuTari gadawyvetileba.<br />

sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblidan<br />

Jurnalistis ganTavisuflebas<br />

saxalxo damcveli exmianeba:<br />

_ saqarTvelos saxalxo damcveli<br />

exmianeba sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblidan<br />

„moambis” Jurnalistis,<br />

laSa mesxis ganTavisuflebis<br />

faqts, vinaidan miiCnevs, rom aRniSnuli<br />

SemTxveva SesaZloa, warmoadgendes<br />

gansxvavebuli mosazrebisa<br />

da profesiuli kavSiris<br />

wevrobis gamo diskriminacias.<br />

rogorc saxalxo damcvelis-<br />

Tvis aris cnobili, laSi mesxis<br />

ganTavisuflebis safuZveli mas-<br />

Tan dadebuli erTTviani xelSekrulebis<br />

vadis gasvla gaxda. gavr-<br />

`saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom, am etapze, ucnobia, ra<br />

legitimur mizans emsaxureboda mxolod laSa mesxis<br />

samsaxuridan ganTavisufleba. amasTan, im pirobebSi,<br />

rodesac Jurnalisti menejmentis mimarT mis<br />

gansxvavebul da kritikul mosazrebebsa da profesiul<br />

kavSirSi aqtiur saqmianobaze miuTiTebs, sazogadoebriv<br />

mauwyebels pasuxismgebloba ekisreba, gansakuTrebiT<br />

wonadi argumentebi warmoadginos da daasabuTos, rom<br />

Jurnalisti samsaxuridan diskriminaciuli safuZvliT<br />

ar ganTavisuflebula~<br />

celebuli informaciiT, is erTaderTi<br />

ganTavisuflebuli piria im<br />

13 dasaqmebulidan, romelTa<br />

erTTviani xelSekrulebis vada amoiwura.<br />

saxalxo damcveli aRniSnavs,<br />

rom erTTviani xelSekrulebis vadis<br />

gasvlis mizeziT SromiTi ur-<br />

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uCa nanuaSvili<br />

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26<br />

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kompiuteruli tomogramis<br />

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saaTSi gamoviyvanTo da aTi saa-<br />

Ti gagrZelda operacia. plast-<br />

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klinika `lancetze~:<br />

ikuri sadinari unda gaekeTebinaT.<br />

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TavisiT xom ar mokvda<br />

Cemi Svili?!<br />

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`lelas meuRle da ori mcirewlovani Svili<br />

darCa. naRvlis tkivilebi daewyo da am<br />

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manamde ki „qronika+” safrageTidan<br />

dokumentacias da anamnezis<br />

pasuxs daelodeba, romelic<br />

yvelaze ukeT upasuxebs<br />

yvela kiTxvas.<br />

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quTaisis sakrebulo<br />

quTaisis sakrebulom teqno-<br />

xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />

logiur universitets mwvane Suqi<br />

kidev erTxel aunTo. qalaqis Se-<br />

mogarenSi, muxnaris tye-parkSi, dagegmili umaRlesi saswav-<br />

leblis mSenebloba, jer kidev, saparlamento arCevnebamde<br />

daanonsda da samSeneblo poligonze mZime teqnikac gamoCnda,<br />

Tumca saarCevno procesis dasrulebis Semdeg yvelaferi<br />

gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT gauCinarda.<br />

28<br />

swored amitom, mosaxleobis<br />

erTma nawilma, xelisuflebis<br />

es gancxadeba winasaarCevnod<br />

gacemul morig xumrobad miiCnia<br />

da ukve damkvidrebul tradicaias,<br />

rac dapirebebis uxv<br />

gacemaSi gamoixateba, gagebiT<br />

moekida.<br />

„Tqven rom 7-punqtian sadRegrZelos<br />

uwodebT strategiuli<br />

ganviTarebis gegmas, im gegmis<br />

mTavar punqtze, ganaTlebaze<br />

saubari iqneba sakrebulos<br />

sxdomaze. Zalian saintereso<br />

informacias gaigebT sauniversiteto<br />

qalaqis mSeneblobasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT”, _ ganacxada<br />

quTaisis merma meriis arqiteqturisa<br />

da ekonomikis samsaxurebis<br />

mier gamarTul Semajamebel<br />

Sexvedraze.<br />

meris mier daanonsebuli sakrebulos<br />

riggareSe sxdoma ki<br />

mxolod erTi sakiTxis misaRebad<br />

gaimarTa _ deputatebma sauniversiteto<br />

qalaqis mSeneblobisTvis<br />

ganaSenianebis regulirebis<br />

gegmis gegmarebiTi<br />

davaleba erTxmad daamtkices.<br />

dRis wesrigiT warmodgenil<br />

sakiTxs opoziciis warmomadgenlebmac<br />

dauWires mxari,<br />

Tumca darwmunebulebi arian,<br />

rom misi ganxorcielebis mcire<br />

Sansebi arsebobs.<br />

„dRes aris istoriuli<br />

dRe!”, _ ase acxadebdnen „qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis” deputatebi sityviT<br />

gamosvlisas da bednierebi<br />

iyvnen, rom am istoriuli<br />

gadawyvetilebis miRebis<br />

procesSi monawileobdnen. bevri<br />

maTgani imdenad Sevida rolSi,<br />

rom gamosvlebi, lamis, marTlac<br />

sadRegrZeloebSi gadaezarda.<br />

rogorc mosalodneli<br />

iyo, sakrebulos umravlesobas<br />

arc raime damatebiTi kiTxva<br />

gasCenia proeqtTan dakavSirebiT.<br />

prezentaciaze quTaisis merma<br />

isaubra, Tu konkretulad<br />

ra teritorias moicavs proeqti,<br />

ra samuSaoebi ganxorcieldeba<br />

da ras moutans igi rogorc<br />

qalaqs, ise mTlianad qveyanas.<br />

SoTa murRulias gancxadebiT,<br />

proeqtis mSeneblobis<br />

procesSi damatebiT samuSao<br />

adgilebi Seiqmneba rogorc qu-<br />

TaisSi, ise mis SemogarenSi<br />

mcxovrebi mosaxleobisTvis.<br />

„detalurad SeviswavleT muxnaris<br />

tye. adgilis upiratesoba<br />

is aris, rom komunikaciebTan<br />

axlosaa. avtobanidan teritoria,<br />

daaxloebiT, 1.5 kilometriTaa<br />

daSorebuli, rkinigzis<br />

sadguridan _ 500-600 metria,<br />

quTaisis centri ki 8 kilometrSia”,<br />

_ ganacxada qalaqis<br />

merma da dasZina, rom kompleqsis<br />

arseboba qalaqis sxva<br />

ubnebis ganviTarebazec dadebiTad<br />

aisaxeba. garda amisa, merma<br />

xazi gausva, uSualod, tyeparkis<br />

teritoriaze arsebul<br />

umZimes mdgomareobas, kerZod,<br />

teritoriis daWaobebas da xeebis<br />

xmobis process, rac ekologiuri<br />

katastrofis tolfasia.<br />

misive TqmiT, usafuZvloa<br />

braldebebi tyis safris<br />

SesaZlo ganadgurebasTan dakavSirebiT.<br />

metic, meri pirobas<br />

debs, rom xeebi araTu moiWreba,<br />

aramed dairgveba. SoTa murRulias<br />

gancxadebiT, „fondi<br />

qarTu” mSeneblobis dawyebas<br />

gazafxulis meore naxevarSi<br />

gegmavs.<br />

Temis aqtualurobidan gamomdinare,<br />

sakrebulos sxdomas<br />

quTaisis maJoritari deputatebi<br />

genadi margvelaSvili,<br />

dimitri mxeiZe da „qarTu fondis”<br />

warmomadgeneli giorgi<br />

uZilauric eswrebodnen.<br />

giorgi uZilauri _ „qarTu<br />

fondis” warmomadgeneli:<br />

_ proeqtis ganxorcieleba<br />

prezentaciis Semdegve daiwyo,<br />

anu 2016 wels. proeqti gulisxmobs<br />

ramdenime komponents,<br />

romelTagan nawili, SeiZleba,<br />

dasawyisSi iyos da Semdgom er-<br />

Toblivad viTardebodes. aq<br />

aris akademiuri da samSeneblo<br />

nawili, menejmentis sakiTxi. es<br />

Tveebi aqtiuri muSaoba midioda<br />

evropelebTan, amerikis warmomadgenlebTan,<br />

iqaur universitetebTan.<br />

saqarTveloSi proeqtis ganxorcielebas<br />

eZaxian, rodesac<br />

traqtori muSaobs, an raRac<br />

Senoba Sendeba, magram rodesac<br />

saubaria am donis proeqtze,<br />

igi mniSvnelovan samuSaoebs<br />

moicavs da misi didi nawili<br />

molaparakebebisas xorcieldeba<br />

qaRaldze.<br />

muSaoba daiwyeba Sua gazafxulze<br />

da gagrZeldeba 2019<br />

wlamde. unda gaviTvaliswinoT,<br />

rom kompleqsi didia da vfiqrobT,<br />

rom perspeqtivaSi igi<br />

kidev unda ganviTardes. es ar<br />

iqneba swrafi samuSaoebi, romelic<br />

2 weliwadSi damTavrdeba.<br />

igi gagrZeldeba da uamravi<br />

komponenti kidev daemateba,<br />

gamomdinare iqidan, rom es aris<br />

sauniversiteto qalaqis mSenebloba.<br />

_ 2019 wels universiteti<br />

studentebs miiRebs, Tu mxol-<br />

od mSenebloba dasruldeba?<br />

_ rogorc iTqva, pirvel nakads<br />

miiRebs. es ar niSnavs, rom<br />

yvela mimarTuleba CaerTveba,<br />

magram ZiriTadi nawili gaixsneba<br />

da studentebis misaRebad<br />

mzad iqneba. vimeoreb: es uzarmazari<br />

proeqtia da saboloo,<br />

srul amoqmedebas garkveuli<br />

dro dasWirdeba.<br />

_ ra odenobis Tanxa daixarjeba<br />

proeqtis ganxor-<br />

cielebisTvis?<br />

_ proeqti kerZo iniciativaa<br />

da ara _ saxelmwifo. Tanxa Seadgens,<br />

daaxloebiT, miliards,<br />

Tumca, SeiZleba, Seicvalos. am<br />

detalebze saubari Cemi kompetencia<br />

ar aris da meorec, naadrevia.<br />

genadi margvelaSvili _ sa-<br />

qarTvelos parlamentis wevri:<br />

_ mosaxleobis erTi nawili<br />

eWvobs, rom proeqti ar ganx-<br />

orcieldeba...<br />

_ Zalian cudia, rom eWvebidan<br />

viwyebT. vfiqrob, rom<br />

arc erTi eWvi aRar arsebobs.<br />

ragbis stadionebi, „bleq si<br />

arena”, swored am adamianis ke-<br />

Tili nebis damsaxureba iyo.<br />

Cven unda gvixarodes da vamayobdeT,<br />

rom arsebobs kaci, romelic<br />

sportisa da ganaTlebis<br />

mimarTulebiT investiciebs<br />

debs.<br />

_ gakeTda gancxadeba, rom<br />

universiteti 60 aTas studen-<br />

tze iqneba gaTvlili. es cif-<br />

ri realurad migaCniaT?<br />

_ saqme is aris, rom gansaku-<br />

Trebulad niWieri moswavleebi<br />

saqarTveloSi ar Cerdebodnen.<br />

SemiZlia CamogiTvaloT,<br />

Tu ramdeni Cemi moswavle cxovrobs<br />

da swavlobs sazRvargareT.<br />

magaliTad, elene maCaiZe<br />

wels masaCusetsis teqnologiur<br />

universitetSi Cairicxa.<br />

ciurixis, kaliforniisa da Zalian<br />

bevr universitetSi yvela<br />

mimarTulebiT arian Cveni<br />

moswavleebi CarTulebi. eseni<br />

samomavlod 6-cifriani xelfasis<br />

mqone adamianebi arian, magram<br />

ise nu vizamT, rom aseTi<br />

xalxisTvis mTeli samyaro iyos<br />

samSoblo da saqarTveloSi Camosvlis<br />

survili davukargoT.<br />

arsebobs ganaTlebis alternativa?<br />

_ amaze arc vdaobT, batono<br />

genadi.<br />

_ eWvi romc eparebodes vinmes,<br />

mainc ar unda eparebodes.<br />

arsebobs komnituri disonansis<br />

Teoria, rom xandaxan Sens<br />

Tavs SeuZaxo da Sens mtersac<br />

ki gverdSi daudge, rom es kargi<br />

saqmea, kargi saqme ki bolomde<br />

unda gakeTdes.<br />

Tqven iciT, ramdeni studenti<br />

Camodis saqarTveloSi yovelwliurad<br />

sazRvargareTidan?<br />

`rogorc Cveni qveynis gulSematkivarma,<br />

minda, vTqva da, yvelam unda icodes, rom<br />

Tbilisi, romlis sawinaaRmdegoc araferi<br />

maqvs da Zalian miyvars, nTqavs mTel<br />

qarTul resurss. yvela cdilobs, iq<br />

wavides da Tavi daimkvidros. 2012 wels,<br />

roca 2 idea erTmaneTs gadaejaWva da<br />

`qarTulma ocnebam~ da batonma ivaniSvilma<br />

gaaJReres, iyo is, rom baTums<br />

teqnologiuri universiteti ar sWirdeba<br />

da quTaiss - parlamenti. baTums ukve<br />

Semdgari proeqti waarTves, romelsac<br />

hqonda Senoba, inteleqtualuri da<br />

finasuri mxardaWera da quTaiselebs<br />

vaWroba dagviwyes~<br />

_ 10 aTasze meti. gansakuTrebiT<br />

medicinisa da biznesis mimarTulebiT,<br />

jer kidev, arian<br />

brwyinvale pedagogebi. esec ar<br />

unda davkargoT da kidev ufro<br />

unda gavZlierdeT am mimarTulebiT.<br />

_ es proeqti parlamentis<br />

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sanacvlod xom ar keTdeba?<br />

_ Zalian martivad gipasuxebT:<br />

jer erTi, me arasdros daveTanxmebi<br />

amas. erTi welia,<br />

erTsa da imaves vimeoreb, magram<br />

Tuki quTaisis mosaxleobis<br />

umetesoba gadawyvets, rom<br />

qalaqSi parlamenti ar unda<br />

iyos, Tqven maSin ras ityviT,<br />

rogorc Jurnalisti?<br />

_ es ar aris mxolod mosaxleobis<br />

gadasawyveti saqme. xelisuflebam<br />

unda gadawyvitos,<br />

ra ukeTesia regionis ga-<br />

nviTarebisTvis da dainaxos,<br />

ramdenad mniSvnelovania sapa-<br />

rlamento qalaqis statusi<br />

quTaisisTvis.<br />

_ geTanxmebiT. am mimarTulebiT<br />

dawvrilebiTi analizia<br />

Casatarebeli. am droisTvis sadac<br />

vyofilvar Sexvedrebze,<br />

saubro. aq aris boRma, meti araferi.<br />

realurad ki, rac davaanonseT,<br />

yvelafers vakeTebT.<br />

ganaTlebis mxriv Zalian didi<br />

Zvrebia ara marto megaproeqt-<br />

Tan, aramed ramdenime fakultetTan<br />

dakavSirebiT. konkretulad<br />

im sferoebSia ufaso fakultetebi,<br />

sadac dRes saqar-<br />

Tvelos realurad sWirdeba<br />

swrafi ganviTarebas. biznesi<br />

ganTavisuflebulia yvelanairi<br />

marwuxisgan. Tu moqalaqes<br />

SeuZlia, saqonels realizacia<br />

gaukeTos, aranairi SezRudva<br />

ar aris.<br />

_ cota TviTkritikulic<br />

rom iyoT, iqneb, gviTxraT, ar-<br />

is iseTi ram, rac mosaxleobas<br />

SehpirdiT da ar gaakeTeT?<br />

_ araferi. Cven gegmazomierad<br />

vaxorcielebT yvela da-<br />

da `saukunis proeqti~?!<br />

parlamenti aucilebelia. mimixvdiT?<br />

_ batono dimitri, xom ar<br />

fiqrobT, rom rigiTma quTa-<br />

iselma ki ara, xelisuflebam<br />

unda gadawyvitos qalaqis mo-<br />

mavali da dainaxos, ramdenad<br />

mniSvnelovania misi ganviTarebisTvis<br />

parlamentis arsebo-<br />

ba?<br />

_ es sul ase iyo da ase iqneba,<br />

oRond Cvens xalxTan SeTanxmdeba.<br />

yvela kanonproeqti<br />

gamWvirvalea.<br />

marTalia, quTaisis saganmanaTleblo<br />

centrad gadaqcevis<br />

idea momxibvlelad miaCniaT,<br />

magram „qarTuli ocnebis” mxridan<br />

proeqtis ganxorcielebas<br />

quTaisis sakrebulos opozicioneri<br />

deputatebi eWviT<br />

amiran ZoweniZe _ „evropu-<br />

li saqarTvelo”:<br />

_ me araTu gamiqarwylda,<br />

aramed Cveni Tanaqalaqeli ma-<br />

Joritari deputatebis gamosvlis<br />

Semdeg kidev ufro gamimyarda<br />

eWvi, rom es proeqti<br />

sxva araferia, Tu ara gadafarva<br />

imisa, rom quTaisidan parlamentis<br />

waRebas apireben. gansakuTrebiT<br />

batoni mxeiZis,<br />

rogorc gamoucdeli politikosis<br />

gamosvlis Semdeg, romelsac<br />

imis taqti ar eyo, rom<br />

es daemala da Tqva, _ proeqti<br />

ufro mniSvnelovania, vidre<br />

parlamenti. mTeli am wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi musirebs azri,<br />

rom quTaiss parlamentis magier<br />

raRac sxva sWirdeba.<br />

rogorc Cveni qveynis gul-<br />

Sematkivarma, minda, vTqva da,<br />

lod, warmoudgenelia. biZina<br />

ivaniSvili didi fulis patronia<br />

da mas cifrebis ena esmis.<br />

sakrebulos sxdomaze vnaxeT,<br />

rom tyuilebis buRi dagviyenes.<br />

deputatebi ambobdnen, rom<br />

kargi iqneba, 2019-Si, an 2020-Si<br />

davamTavroTo. kerZo investori,<br />

rogorc wesi, ar ambobs, an<br />

2017-Si movrCebi, an 2019-Sio.<br />

sakrebulos komisiis sxdomaze,<br />

saerTod, saocreba iTqva:<br />

biZina ivaniSvilma brZana, es<br />

proeqti jer momgebiani gaxdeba<br />

da mere gadavcem saxelmwifoso.<br />

es proeqti am cifrebiT,<br />

rasac gveubnebian, momgebiani<br />

ver gaxdeba, rogorc avtoqarxana<br />

ar iyo momgebiani misi<br />

aSenebis dRidan. Tumca mxolod<br />

gamixardeba, Tuki es cudi<br />

ar moxdeba. apelireben, rom<br />

mTavaria, personalTan molaparakeba<br />

da niCabi da traqtori<br />

es sxva Temaao. mere ki ityvian,<br />

ver movelaparakeTo da<br />

amiT dasruldeba.<br />

yovelTvis gverdidan Semosuli<br />

Tezebia. ar minda vTqva,<br />

erT-erTma parlamentarma ra<br />

miTxra amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

da anekdotur situaciamde ar<br />

daviyvan am Temas. gavimeoreb<br />

imas, rac premier-ministrma<br />

Tqva: am etapze quTaisidan parlamentis<br />

gadatana ar igegmeba.<br />

dimitri mxeiZe _ saqarTve-<br />

los parlamentis wevri:<br />

_ samuSaoebi dawyebulia. piradad<br />

Cavedi da vnaxe. niadagi<br />

momzadebulia, gzebi moxre-<br />

Silia da mZime teqnika ivlis.<br />

yvelaferia momzadebuli, rom<br />

rogorc ki amindebi gamova,<br />

proeqtze muSaoba daiwyos.<br />

_ sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />

mogviwodeT, rom procesebs<br />

eWviT ar unda SevxedoT. ro-<br />

gor fiqrobT, saidan Cndeba es<br />

eWvebi?<br />

_ ar minda, romelime politikur<br />

organizaciaze Tu politikosebze<br />

uaryofiTad vi-<br />

pirebas. dro gvaqvs da nelnela<br />

yvelaferi Sesruldeba.<br />

_ ras etyodiT maT, vinc<br />

teqnologiur universitets<br />

parlamentis Casanacvlebel<br />

proeqtad ganixilavs?<br />

_ aseTi Tema CvenTan ar ganixileba.<br />

Tu qveynis swrafi ganviTarebisTvis<br />

saWiro iqneba,<br />

yvela struqtura erT qalaqSi<br />

iyos, maSin sakiTxma mosaxleobasTan<br />

unda gaiaros da mxolod<br />

Semdeg SeiZleba parlamentis<br />

gadatana erTi qalaqidan meoreSi.<br />

Tu amas romelime politikosi<br />

ambobs, es ar niSnavs,<br />

rom Cveni partiis azri da gadawyvetilebaa.<br />

es misi azria.<br />

marTlac, didi diskomfortia<br />

erTi qalaqidan meore qalaqSi<br />

siaruli kviraSi orjer-samjer.<br />

magram Cveni mTavroba Se-<br />

RavaTs uwevs Cvens qalaqs da<br />

ar arTmevs imas, rac misTvis,<br />

dResdReobiT, mTavaria. es ase<br />

gagrZeldeba manam, vidre quTaiseli<br />

ifiqrebs, rom misTvis<br />

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uyureben. metic, adgilobrivi<br />

TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis<br />

win isini mmarTvel gunds qu-<br />

TaiselTa motyuebis mcdelobaSi<br />

adanaSauleben<br />

samson gugava _ leiboris-<br />

tuli partia:<br />

_ roca erT SemTxvevaSi vxedavT,<br />

rom qveyanaSi ganaTlebis<br />

ufleba daucvelia da, amave<br />

dros, vamtkicebT, rom saxelmwifo<br />

axali saganmanaTleblo<br />

kerebis Seqmnaze zrunavs, vfiqrob,<br />

es cru dapirebaa, raSic<br />

Cveni xelisufleba SemCneulia.<br />

es morigi winasaarCevno svlaa.<br />

ramdenime wlis Semdeg didi siamovnebiT<br />

movixdi bodiSs, Tuki<br />

es proeqti warmatebiT dasruldeba,<br />

magram, samwuxarod,<br />

mis realizebaSi eWvi mepareba.<br />

jer uamrav statusSeCerebul<br />

students miscen ganaTlebis<br />

ufleba da amis Semdeg isaubron<br />

axal saswavlo kerebze.<br />

yvelam unda icodes, rom Tbilisi,<br />

romlis sawinaaRmdegoc<br />

araferi maqvs da Zalian miyvars,<br />

nTqavs mTel qarTul resurss.<br />

yvela cdilobs, iq wavides<br />

da Tavi daimkvidros.<br />

2012 wels, roca 2 idea erTmaneTs<br />

gadaejaWva da „qarTulma<br />

ocnebam” da batonma ivaniSvilma<br />

gaaJReres, iyo is, rom<br />

baTums teqnologiuri universiteti<br />

ar sWirdeba da quTaiss<br />

_ parlamenti. baTums ukve Semdgari<br />

proeqti waarTves, romelsac<br />

hqonda Senoba, inteleqtualuri<br />

da finasuri mxarda-<br />

Wera da quTaiselebs vaWroba<br />

dagviwyes.<br />

60 aTas studentze saubroben,<br />

rac saqarTvelosTvis fantastikaa.<br />

dRes, ucxoelebis<br />

CaTvliT, 132 aTasi studenti<br />

swavlobs saqarTveloSi 78 akreditebul<br />

umaRles saswavlebelSi.<br />

axla amis naxevar kontingentze<br />

gaTvalo erTi universitetis<br />

kontingenti, ubra-<br />

male daTbeba da samuSaoTa<br />

warmoebisTvis Sesaferisi amindebic<br />

dadgeba. swored gamodarebas<br />

elodeba xelisufleba,<br />

raTa muxnaris tye-parkSi<br />

mZime teqnika aagugunos. Tumca,<br />

imedia, manamde universitetis<br />

sawavlo, sacxovrebeli korpusebisa<br />

da sxva damxmare nagebobebis<br />

maketebsac vixilavT.<br />

sakrebuloSi prezentaciaze<br />

mxolod zogadi, savaraudo monaxazi<br />

gakeTda imisa, Tu ra teritorias<br />

moicavs kompleqsi<br />

da, daaxloebiT, rogori ganaSenianeba<br />

iqneba iq.<br />

quTaisis saganmanaTleblo<br />

centrad gadaqcevis Sesaxeb saubari,<br />

jer kidev, imereTis yofili<br />

gubernatoris, Temur Sa-<br />

SiaSvilis dros daiwyo. am wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi centraluri<br />

xelisufleba am ideas arc mxars<br />

uWerda da arc mis ganxorcielebaze<br />

ambobda uars. amjerad<br />

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ki mxolod konstituciidan<br />

48-e muxlis amoRebaze uaris<br />

Tqmis SemTxvevaSi darwmundebian,<br />

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Seasrulebs da teqnologiuri<br />

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araSenebuli obieqtebis<br />

(axali sportis sasaxle, ragbis<br />

moedani da 250-milioniani axali<br />

ubani parlamentis mimdebare<br />

teritoriaze da sxv.) beds<br />

ar gaiziarebs.<br />

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„qronika+”-s esaubreba „demografiuli<br />

aRorZinebis fon-<br />

dis” gamgeobis Tavmjdomare _<br />

Tamar CiburdaniZe:<br />

_ ram ganapiroba aseTi mZime<br />

demografiuli mdgomareoba qveyanaSi?<br />

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Tu arsebobs saerTod aseTi?<br />

_ 2010 wels gaeros mier Catarebuli<br />

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2050 wlisTvis demografiuli<br />

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sayrdenia da mniSvnelovanwilad<br />

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Ti, samegrelo _ zemo svaneTi,<br />

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da kaxeTi.<br />

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Si rogori mdgomareobaa?<br />

_ saqarTvelos mTa TiTqmis daclilia<br />

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saqarTvelos 162 sofeli absoluturad<br />

gaukacrielebuli<br />

iyo, xolo 154 sofelSi 5 da naklebi<br />

kaci cxovrobda. gaukacrielebuli<br />

soflebis raodenobam, bolo<br />

aRweris Sedegad, 200-s gadaaWarba.<br />

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aq ukve demografiuli aneqsiis safrTxe<br />

iqmneba imitom, rom Tu asaxldebi,<br />

Casaxldeba sxva da es SemdgomSi<br />

swored teritoriebis<br />

dakargvas iwvevs. amitom SemuSavda<br />

„mTis kanoni” da mTis erovnu-<br />

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gaeros kvlevebis<br />

bolo TveebSi ganviTarebuli<br />

Tamar rostiaSvili<br />

movlenebis fonze (sapatriarqo-<br />

577 10 07 06<br />

sTan dakavSirebuli skandali,<br />

„rusTavi 2"-is garSemo mimdinare<br />

procesebi da a. S.) CrdilSi darCa umniSvnelovanesi problema:<br />

gaerom saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT ramdenime wlis winaT<br />

skandaluri monacemebi gamoaqveyna _ 2050 wlisTvis Cve-<br />

ni qveynis mosaxleoba 28%-iT Semcirdeba. azerbaijanis mo-<br />

saxleoba 33%-iT izrdeba, xolo somxeTis mosaxleoba _ 7%-<br />

iT imatebs. kavkasiaSi demografiuli balansi irRveva. ras<br />

akeTebs saqarTvelos mTavroba?! adre Tu gvian, yvela prob-<br />

lema mogvardeba, eris genofondis gadarCenis garda.<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

577 10 07 06<br />

mosaxleoba<br />

28%-iT<br />

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li sabWo Seiqmna, romlis wevri<br />

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maRalmTiani soflis statusi<br />

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iTvaliswinebs. statusis miniWebis<br />

kriteriumebSi pirveli kriteriumi<br />

swored soflis demografiuli<br />

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manZilze yovelTviurad, xolo<br />

mesame da Semdgom axalSobilze ki<br />

_ 200 lari 2 wlis manZilze.<br />

mjera, rom ramdenime wlis Semdeg<br />

Cven seriozul sasikeTo cvlilebebs<br />

miviRebT da bevri moqalaqe<br />

daubrundeba Tavis kerias.<br />

_ ar mjera. dasawyisisTvis<br />

cudi ar aris, magram arasakmari-<br />

sia. saxelmwifom 4 wlis manZilze<br />

300 milionamde lari demografi-<br />

ul iniciativebSi daxarja. aman<br />

ra Sedegi mogvca?<br />

_ Sedegad mogvca is, rom 2013-<br />

2015 wlebSi saqarTveloSi Sobadobam<br />

sagrZnoblad imata, Semcirda<br />

sikvdilianoba, gansakuTrebiT<br />

_ bavSvTa sikvdilianoba; 9000 er-<br />

TeuliT Semcirda abortebis raodenoba.<br />

gaizarda qorwinebaTa<br />

raodenoba. es cotaa? msurs, is<br />

iniciativebi CamogiTvaloT, rac<br />

bolo 4 wlis manZilze ganxorcielda<br />

mxolod demografiuli mimarTulebiT:<br />

mSobiarobebis dafinanseba<br />

saxelmwifos mier, orsulobis<br />

monitoringi, rkina-deficituri<br />

anemiis SemTxvevaSi folium<br />

mJavis miwodeba orsulebisTvis,<br />

dekretuli Svebulebis gazrda<br />

rogorc fuladi anazRaurebiT,<br />

aseve drois xangrZlivobiT;<br />

6 regionSi mesame da Semdgomi Svilis<br />

dafinanseba 2 wlis manZilze<br />

yovelTviurad barSi 150 laris,<br />

xolo mTSi 200 laris odenobiT.<br />

_ ori weli Zalian cota ar<br />

aris?<br />

_ cotaa, magram biujets risi<br />

saSualebac hqonda, is gaviTvaliswineT.<br />

Cven 6 weli gvsurda,<br />

magram es SeuZlebeli iyo. swored<br />

am iniciativis Sedegia is, rom 2015<br />

wels mesame da Semdgom axalSobilebSi<br />

Sobadobis pikuri maCvenebeli<br />

dafiqsirda. es iniciativa<br />

srulad Cvens fondSi SemuSavda<br />

da amiT gansakuTrebiT vamayobT.<br />

garda amisa, momzadda iniciativebi<br />

abortebis winaaRmdeg. magali-<br />

Tad, abortamde mosafiqrebeli<br />

vadis gazrda 3-dan 5 dRemde.<br />

_ ai, es bolo, ubralod,<br />

sasaciloa...<br />

_ ratom? bevr evropul saxelmwifoSi<br />

abortamde mosafiqrebeli<br />

vada 7 da 10 dRec ki aris da<br />

cdiloben, deda maqsimalurad<br />

gadaarwmunon, rom uari Tqvas<br />

abortze. geTanxmebiT, rom es 5<br />

dRe Tu ar daitvirTa, efeqti ar<br />

eqneba. Cen gvsurs, rom es dReebi<br />

daitvirTos fsiqologis, ginekologis<br />

da Tu survili eqnebaT, sa-<br />

Tamar CiburdaniZe<br />

suliero pirTan konsultaciebiT.<br />

2014 wels seleqciuri abortebis<br />

akrZalva ministris rekomendaciis<br />

safuZvelze ganxorcielda da<br />

rac mTavaria, dimitri xundaZis<br />

iniciativiT, ukanono abortebze<br />

sasjeli gamkacrda, rac pirvelive<br />

SemTxvevaze patimrobiT<br />

isjeba; aseve, ganisazRvra martoxela<br />

mSoblis statusi. ukve TiTqmis<br />

miRebulia kanoni Svilad ayvanisa<br />

da mindobiTi aRzrdis Sesaxeb.<br />

garda amisa, 2016 wlis ivnisSi,<br />

jandacvis komitetis iniciativiT<br />

da parlamentis dadgenilebiT,<br />

miRebulia ori msxvili<br />

dokumenti: daberebis politikis<br />

dokumenti da demografiuli usafrTxoebis<br />

koncefcia. es ukanaskneli<br />

erT-erTi msxvili politikuri<br />

dokumentia, rac ki saqar-<br />

Tvelos parlaments odesme miuRia.<br />

_ maSin 2016 wlis statis-<br />

tikuri monacemebi negatiurad<br />

ratom aris Secvlili da mdgo-<br />

mareoba gauaresebulia?<br />

_ amas velodiT da amis Sesaxebac<br />

araerTxel gangvicxadebia.<br />

_ ras acxadebdiT, rom Soba-<br />

dobis kleba gardauvalia?<br />

_ diax! es aris 20 wlis winaT<br />

ganviTarebuli movlenebis Sedegi.<br />

saqme is gaxlavT, rom 1990-ian<br />

wlebSi saqarTveloSi daibada 455<br />

000 gogona, xolo 2000-iani wleb-<br />

Si _ 224 000. es Taoba swored axla<br />

Sedis dedobis asakSi da ganaxevrebuli<br />

gogonebis raodenoba, bunebrivia,<br />

ganaxevrebul Sobadobas<br />

mogvcems.<br />

_ ra perspeqtiva gvaqvs?<br />

_ perspeqtiva aris is, rom<br />

Zlieri demografiuli politikis<br />

ganxorcielebiT unda aviciloT<br />

is seriozuli katastrofa, rac<br />

gvelis. arada, es realuria. es cunamia.<br />

Cven vcdilobT, cunami Zlieri<br />

RelviT SevcvaloT. krizisi<br />

ukve gvaqvs da swored am krizisidan<br />

gamosasvlelad Seiqmna demografiuli<br />

usafrTxoebis koncefcia,<br />

rasac axla unda mohyves<br />

2020-2050 wlebis samoqmedo gegmis<br />

Sedgena. koncefcia parlamentma<br />

miiRo da igi premierTan erovnuli<br />

sabWos Seqmnas gansazRvravs.<br />

swored am sabWom unda warmarTos<br />

SemdgomSi qveynis demografiuli<br />

politika. is, rasac axla vakeTebT,<br />

erTi demografiuli Taobis,<br />

anu 25 wlis Semdeg mogvcems Sedegs,<br />

amitom am TemiT piars aravin<br />

vapirebT. es mxolod uzRvavi<br />

Sroma da udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa.<br />

sxvanairad qarTveli eri gadaSendeba,<br />

damijereT. amas rogorc<br />

specialisti, ise geubnebiT.<br />

_ maSin, Tu es aseTi didi<br />

problemaa, xom SeiZleboda, amaze<br />

muSaoba ufro adre dagewyoT?<br />

_ amaze muSaoba, jer kidev, 90-<br />

ian wlebSi unda dawyebuliyo. miT<br />

umetes, 2002 wlidan, rodesac mosaxleobis<br />

sayovelTao aRwera<br />

Catarda da umZimesi Sedegebi miviReT.<br />

mogvianebiT, 2010 wels, rodesac<br />

gaerom es kvleva warmoadgina,<br />

me maSin erT-erT opoziciur<br />

partiaSi viyavi da sxvadasxva<br />

mimarTulebas vxelmZRvanelobdi.<br />

bevri brZolis miuxedavad, am Temaze<br />

muSaobis dawyeba ver SevZeliT.<br />

2012 wels es proeqti maSindeli<br />

jandacvis komitetis Tavmjdomare<br />

dimitri xundaZesTan Sevitane.<br />

swored is gaxldaT xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan am proeqtis dawyebis<br />

iniciatori, xolo arasam-<br />

Tavroboebidan me vxelmZRvanelobdi.<br />

4 wlis manZilze, marTlac,<br />

jojoxeTurad vSromobdiT,<br />

magram Cven es SevZeliT da aseve<br />

momavalSic vagrZelebT. gansaku-<br />

Trebuli siyvaruliT da pativiscemiT<br />

minda movixsenio xandazmuli<br />

mecnieri, demografi batoni<br />

anzor ToTaZe, romelic fondis<br />

erT-erTi damfuZnebelia, Cvenze<br />

meti energiiT muSaobs da ragind<br />

ar unda gagikvirdeT, moxucebul<br />

profesors Tavisi xelfasi moaqvs<br />

universitetidan da fondSi ricxavs,<br />

xan sakuTar wignebs gamoscems,<br />

xan kvlevebs akeTebs. es pirovneba<br />

yvelas gvaognebs. is am TemaSi<br />

Cveni maswavlebelia da ZiriTad<br />

mimarTulebebs swored is gva-<br />

Zlevs. yoveldRiurad uamravi adamiani<br />

rekavs da daxmarebas gvTxovs,<br />

Cvenc vuxsniT, rom fondi am<br />

mimarTulebiT ar muSaobs. diax,<br />

Cvens wesdebaSi weria, rom erTerTi<br />

saqmianoba qvelmoqmedeba<br />

unda iyos, magram, am etapze, sxva<br />

mimarTulebiT vmuSaobT. rodesac<br />

davfuZndiT, fuladi Semowiruloba<br />

ramdenime pirma gaakeTa, maT<br />

Soris, deputatebmac, oRond ara<br />

didi. am TanxiT vexmarebodiT mravalSvilian<br />

ojaxebs da mSobiarobis<br />

Tanxas vufinansebdiT. Semdgom,<br />

rodesac sayovelTao jandacvis<br />

programa amoqmedda, maT am<br />

kuTxiT daxmareba aRar sWirdebodaT.<br />

Tavidanve erT rames mivxvdiT,<br />

an unda gvemuSava fulis<br />

mozidvaze da gacemaze, erTjerad<br />

daxmarebebze, romelic arsebiTad<br />

arafers cvlida, anda demografiuli<br />

politikis SemuSavebaze<br />

gvemuSava, romelic uamrav<br />

kvlevasa da analizs moicavda sazogadoebis<br />

CarTulobiT. gamomdinare<br />

iqidan, rom erTjeradi<br />

daxmarebebiT demografiul suraTs<br />

qveyanaSi ver SevcvlidiT,<br />

meore gza avirCieT, ufro rTuli<br />

da sapasuxismgeblo _ demografiuli<br />

iniciativebis SemuSaveba<br />

da saxelmwifos mxridan amis<br />

ganxorcieleba.<br />

_ Tuki am gzas irCevdiT, maSin<br />

ratom SeiyvaneT 6 milioneri<br />

fondSi, maT Soris, levan vasaZe,<br />

zaza niSnianiZe, papaSvili da a. S.?<br />

gaakeTes rame? magaliTad, daafi-<br />

nanses mSobiaroba, 10-Svilian<br />

ojaxebs pensia an Semweoba dau-<br />

niSnes da a. S.? me rogorc vici,<br />

arc araferi.<br />

_ xom giTxariT, Tavidan Cveulebrivi<br />

saqvelmoqmedo fondis<br />

proeqti SevimuSaveT, romelic<br />

gulisxmobda sameTvalyureo sab-<br />

WoSi biznesmenebis Seyvanas. ramdenimeTviani<br />

erToblivi muSaobis<br />

Semdeg gadavwyviteT, rom meore<br />

mimarTulebiT gvemuSava da ufro<br />

meti gagvekeTebina, vidre erTjeradi<br />

daxmarebebi iyo.<br />

_ gasagebia, anu TanamSromlo-<br />

ba SewyviteT?<br />

_ am mizniT biznesmenebTan TanamSromloba<br />

SevwyviteT, Tumca<br />

megobroba grZeldeba da Cven yvelani<br />

am ideas dRemde vemsaxurebiT.<br />

maT TiToeuls bevri ram aqvs<br />

gakeTebuli am mimarTulebiT. demografiuli<br />

problema masStaburia<br />

da globaluri midgoma sWirdeba.<br />

swored amitom daviwyeT<br />

saxelmwifo programaze muSaoba<br />

xelisuflebasTan erTad. rac<br />

mTavaria, yvela adamianis sicocxles<br />

ukve saxelmwifo azRvevda da<br />

jandacvis mxriv problemebi didwilad<br />

moixsna.<br />

_ kiTxvas mivubrundebi: Tqven<br />

SewyviteT maTTan urTierToba,<br />

magram vasaZem calke fondi<br />

daafuZna da iq biznesmenebma gadainacvles.<br />

Sedegad ras vxe-<br />

davT? _ zaza niSnianiZe, „meidan<br />

jgufis” damfuZnebeli, meriasTan<br />

erTad sxvadasxva komerciul<br />

proeqtSia CarTuli. „qroni-<br />

ka+” ukve werda amaze da mis ko-<br />

rufciul sqemaze...<br />

_ rac Seexeba baton levan vasaZes,<br />

diax, man jer fondi daafuZna,<br />

xolo Semdeg _ demografiuli<br />

saazogadoeba. es organizacia<br />

Zalian kargad muSaobs da bevr<br />

sasikeTo saqmes akeTebs qveynis-<br />

Tvis; xolo ras saqmianobs batoni<br />

zaza niSnianiZe, an sxva biznesmeni,<br />

am saqmeSi ar verevi da arc vici.<br />

vici mxolod is, rom maT pativs<br />

vcem. miuxedavad imisa, rom fondis<br />

sami damfuZnebeli politikosia,<br />

maqsimalurad vcdilobT, fondi<br />

politizebuli ar gavxadoT<br />

da aravin gamoiyenos vinmesTan dapirispirebisTvis.<br />

piriqiT, Cvens<br />

samuSaoebSi xSirad monawileobs<br />

batoni gigi wereTeli da Zalian<br />

karg ideebsac gvTavazobs.<br />

_ biznesmenebze saubars Tavs<br />

aridebT? niSnianiZeze gkiTxeT,<br />

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skandaluri punqti<br />

erTi saqme damisaxeleT misi<br />

qvelmoqmedebidan...<br />

_ mirCevnia, Cveni fondis saqmianobaze<br />

visaubroT.<br />

_ fondisa, romelsac dafin-<br />

anseba ar aqvs da es arc aravis<br />

adardebs?<br />

_ xom giTxariT, Cven gadavwyviteT<br />

ase. rodesac saxelmwifo<br />

programaze da samoqmedo gegmaze<br />

muSaobas davamTavrebT, mere amazec<br />

vifiqrebT. radgan Zalian gainteresebT,<br />

getyviT, rom dafinansebis<br />

mxriv perspeqtiva namdvilad<br />

gvaqvs kerZo seqtoridan.<br />

vnaxoT, momavali gviCvenebs. warmoidgineT,<br />

yvela demografiuli<br />

iniciativis ganxorcielebaze saxelmwifom<br />

4 wlis manZilze 300<br />

milionamde lari gaiRo da es mxolod<br />

dasawyisia, muSaoba gZeldeba.<br />

am Tanxis Segroveba Cvens<br />

fonds da, zogadad, nebismier<br />

arasamTavrobo organizacias Zalian<br />

gauWirdeboda. amitom vfiqrob,<br />

rom swori gza avirCieT da<br />

vzrunavT ara calkeul ojaxebze,<br />

aramed, yvelaze. rac Seexeba<br />

fonds, saxelis gadarqmeva gvsurda,<br />

radgan pirdapir fulTan asocirdeba,<br />

magram dafuZnebidan maleve<br />

„demografiuli aRorZinebis<br />

fondi” brendi gaxda. demografiuli<br />

Temis popularizacia dRes<br />

swored Cveni organizaciis damsaxurebaa,<br />

amitom gadavifiqreT.<br />

_ Tqven xelfass ar iRebT?<br />

_ ara, fondis TanamSromlebs<br />

mxolod samjer Cavuricxe xelfasi<br />

da erTi xelfasi yvelam ukan<br />

gadmoricxa qvelmoqmedebis mizniT.<br />

calkeul proeqtebSi erTjeradi<br />

anazRaureba aqvT, isic, iSviaTad.<br />

me arasodes erTi TeTric<br />

ar amiRia am fondidan, piriqiT,<br />

ramdenjerme maqvs Setanili Cemi<br />

Tanxa sxvadasxva proeqtisTvis,<br />

iseve, rogorc sxvebs.<br />

_ kargiT, ase ufulod apir-<br />

ebT muSaobis gagrZelebas?<br />

_ damijereT, fuli ar aris aq<br />

mTavari. saxelmwifoebrivi midgoma<br />

unda iyos TiToeuli moqalaqis<br />

mxridan. soliduri dafinanseba<br />

aravisTvis gviTxovia. dResdReobiT,<br />

calkeul proeqtebs an Cven<br />

TviTon vafinansebT, an erTjeradi<br />

sponsorebi gvyavs. erTobliv<br />

kulturul RonisZiebebs, ZiriTadad,<br />

kulturis saministro, an municipalitetebi<br />

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gadarCenas.<br />

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gaeazrebinaT es suliereba? zogadad,<br />

sulierebis es didi siRrmeebi<br />

adamianma, mxolod da mxolod,<br />

martoobaSi SeiZleba gaiazros,<br />

RmerTi Seimecnos. amas xom sasuliero<br />

akademia da msgavsi dawesebuleba<br />

ver Camogiyalibebs. es aris<br />

Seni urTierToba RmerTTan, saxarebis<br />

gaazreba da a. S.<br />

aseTi frazebi: marjvenaSi gagartyamen,<br />

marcxena miuSvire, uaryavi<br />

sakuTari Tavi, an pirveli qva<br />

man esrolos, vinc ucodvelia, _<br />

es azrovnebis sivrcea, rasac Zalian<br />

seriozuli gacnobiereba da<br />

gaazreba sWirdeba.<br />

CvenTan eklesia, rogorc Cveulebrivi<br />

instituti, gaZlierda,<br />

Senobebi gakeTda, galamazda, lamis,<br />

yoveli sadarbazos win ixsneba.<br />

am yvelafers sulieri moZRvari<br />

sWirdeboda. axla, saidan unda<br />

moiyvano amdeni moZRvari? marTla<br />

inkubatori xom ar aris, rom<br />

amdeni axali kadri gamouSva? amitom<br />

xalxis swraf reJimSi aRkveca<br />

xdeboda. garkveuli periodi<br />

monasterSic vicxovre da am<br />

sistemasTan Sexeba maqvs.<br />

ase xom ar aris, ori wigni waiki-<br />

Txo da es yvelaferi uceb gaiazro?..<br />

adamians saxarebis gasaazreblad,<br />

SeiZleba, mTeli cxovreba<br />

dagWirdes, imxela siRrmea am yvelaferSi<br />

Cadebuli.<br />

saboloo jamSi, ase moxda, rom<br />

namdvilad maZiebeli adamianebi<br />

CrdilSi darCnen (albaT, ase amjobines<br />

kidec) da ufro ambiciurni<br />

win wamovidnen. gaxsovT, 90-<br />

iani wlebis usamsaxuroba, adamianebma<br />

yvelaferi dakarges, realoba<br />

ucbad Seicvala. xalxi ver mixvda,<br />

ra unda gaekeTebina da eklesia<br />

Cveulebrivi sistema gaxda, sadac<br />

adamianebi saqmdebodnen. gansakuTrebuli<br />

moTxovnileba iyo<br />

didi qalaqebis taZrebze, radgan<br />

iq Semosavalic metia. es xom Cveulebrivi<br />

procesia, _ zogisTvis<br />

profesia, zogisTvis biznesi gaxldaT.<br />

albaT, aq iyo yvelaferi,<br />

sulierebis garda.<br />

aseve yvelam icis amxela dafinansebasa<br />

da gaurkvevel Tanxebze.<br />

Riad saubroben, rom iq raRac darRvevebi,<br />

klanuri dapirispirebebia,<br />

erTmaneTis sawinaaRmdegod<br />

ideba faqtebi, fotoebi. yvelam<br />

Cumad icis maT finansur cxovrebaze<br />

(maRal ierarqias vgulisxmob),<br />

Tumca amaSi aravin ereva, aravis<br />

surs amis gamoZieba da yvelaze<br />

met siyalbes swored aq vxedav.<br />

am fonze, Cven ras veZebT cxovrebaSi,<br />

realurad, ris madideblebi<br />

varT, RmerTis Tu konkretuli<br />

pirovnebebis? es Zalian<br />

saintereso sakiTxia.<br />

vici, Cemi sityvebi bevrs gaaRizianebs,<br />

magram simarTle giTxraT,<br />

es ukve naklebad maRelvebs. Cven-<br />

Tan iseTi politikuri, Tu sulieri,<br />

mentaluri krizisia, gviWirs<br />

ganviTareba, imdenad katastrofuli<br />

gaxda aq cxovreba, adamiani<br />

ise suls Rafavs amdeni ideologiisa<br />

Tu gauzrebeli avtoritetis<br />

qveS, rom yvelas ufleba gvaqvs,<br />

xma amoviRoT. es gavakeToT maSin,<br />

rodesac mZime socialuri fonia,<br />

rodesac 25 welia, garSemo aseTi<br />

siRatakea da uceb garkveuli sasuliero<br />

pirebi aranormalurad<br />

mdidrebi xdebian (maTi qoneba<br />

kolosalur cifrebs aRwevs), sapatriarqo<br />

seriozulad finansdeba<br />

da a. S.<br />

aravin icis, es yvelaferi sad<br />

midis, vis jibeSi da rogor. ase<br />

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om, Tundac amasTan mimarTebiT<br />

fariseveli da yalbi adamianebi<br />

varT. Tavs vdebT qristianobaze,<br />

amisTvis vomobT, Seuwynarebloba<br />

gvaqvs sxva, Tundac, mcire religiebis<br />

mimarT, magram sakuTar<br />

TavSi mxolod ambiciebs, Zalauflebisa<br />

da simdidris moTxovnilebas<br />

vxedavT. rasac vuyurebT,<br />

naklebad Cans, rom aq vinme Rmer-<br />

Tis, namdvili sulierebis maZiebeli<br />

iyos, es ukve Cveulebrivi saxelmwifo<br />

institutia.<br />

_ dafinanseba axseneT, wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi am sistemis mimarT<br />

xelisuflebis damokidebuleba<br />

rogor SeiZleba Sefasdes?<br />

_ zogadad, krizisi rom arsebobda,<br />

es, pirvel rigSi, xelisuflebas<br />

ecodineboda. gansakuTrebiT<br />

winas, sadac yvelas, yvelafers<br />

usmendnen da, bunebrivia, icodnen,<br />

mand realurad ra xdeboda... magram,<br />

ratomRac, amaze yvela Tavs<br />

iyruebda.<br />

viciT, rom yvela sociologiuri<br />

kvleviT marTlmadidebloba<br />

CvenTan dominanti religiaa, yvelaze<br />

didi avtoriteti patriarqia.<br />

yvela xelisufleba cdilobda,<br />

es saTavisod gamoeyenebina, anu<br />

religiis sistema misi interesebis<br />

gamtarebeli yofiliyo.<br />

savaraudod, saukuneebis manZilzec<br />

ase xdeboda. viciT, rom monarqias<br />

mudmivad „apravebda” sam-<br />

Rvdeloeba, rom mefe mironcxebulia<br />

da Sen misTvis unda imuSao,<br />

monebo, daemorCileT batonebs da<br />

a. S. msgavsi midgoma dRevandel<br />

realobaSic gagrZelda.<br />

ubralod, dRevandeli xelisuflebis<br />

damokidebulebas ver mivxvdi.<br />

maT ar aRelvebT dafinanseba<br />

(es gauazrebeli xarjebi), rodesac<br />

SesaZlebelia, es 25 milioni raime<br />

sxva socialur proeqts moaxmaron.<br />

qveyanaSi amdeni mSieri bavSvi<br />

gyavs da Sen am fuls haerSi isvri.<br />

realurad, ara am mimarTulebiT,<br />

aramed, isev da isev, piradi interesebisTvis<br />

erevi aRniSnul procesSi.<br />

amitom vambob, rom dRes xelisuflebis<br />

religiisadmi damokidebuleba<br />

iseTivea, rogorc es,<br />

albaT, monarqiis damokidebuleba<br />

iyo. yvela xelisufleba cdilobs,<br />

eklesia misi mxardamWeri, interesebis<br />

gamtarebeli iyos. mrevli<br />

procentulad mosaxleobis Zalian<br />

didi nawilia da xelisufleba<br />

cdilobs, rom eklesiisgan problema<br />

ar hqondes.<br />

eklesia, romelic simarTlis-<br />

Tvis mebrZoli, Rarib-RatakTa patroni<br />

unda iyos, saboloo jamSi,<br />

rogorc organizebuli religia,<br />

meore uZlieres saxelmwifo institutad<br />

mogvevlina. rac yvelaze<br />

mTavaria, ZalauflebisTvis<br />

mebrZolia.<br />

ra vqna, Tvalebidan ar amomdis<br />

(SemTxveviT gadaveyare 17 maisis<br />

ambebs), xeljoxebiT SeiaraRebuli<br />

sasuliero pirebi rogor dasdevdnen<br />

„elgebete” Temis warmomadgenlebs<br />

im fonze, roca maT ukan<br />

amxela farisevloba da siyalbe<br />

iyo. CemTvis, rigiTi mozrovne adamianisTvis,<br />

es Zalian miuRebelia.<br />

yovelTvis vityvi, rom religia<br />

adamianis intimuri urTierTobaa<br />

RmerTTan da SeuZlebelia, Suamavali<br />

arsebobdes. maSin, yvela<br />

logikiT, Tu am locvebs ritualis<br />

Zala aqvs, vinmem amixsnas, es<br />

sasuliero pirebi, maRali ierarqebi<br />

(gansakuTrebiT, Savi samRvdeloeba,<br />

romelmac beruli cxovreba<br />

gaiara), ase ram gadaagvara? ratom<br />

gaxdnen aseTi fulisa da Zalauflebis<br />

momxveWelebi? ratom<br />

mokvda maTSi adamiani?<br />

vsaubrob, Tundac, im Seuwynareblobis<br />

fonze, rasac Cven bolo<br />

periodi vxedavT, rasac religiuri<br />

Tu seqsualuri umciresobebi<br />

ganicdian. zogierTi mRvdelm-<br />

Tavari ambionidan Ria politikur<br />

gancxadebasac ki akeTebs. dRes umetesoba<br />

am mafiozur dapirispirebasa<br />

da klanur omebSia CarTuli.<br />

_ am situaciaSi rigiTi mo-<br />

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qalaqisTvis, sazogadoebisTvis<br />

gamosavali sad aris, rom saRma<br />

azrma gaimarjvos?<br />

_ es individualuri gamosavalia,<br />

saRi azri, mxolod da mxolod,<br />

individma SeiZleba ipovos. veranairi<br />

organizebuli religia<br />

RmerTTan ver migiyvans. Sen, pirvel<br />

rigSi, unda dafiqrde, ras eZeb<br />

(rodesac eklesiaSi midixar), RmerTs<br />

eZeb, Tu amas im gagebiT<br />

akeTeb, rasac saxareba moiazrebs.<br />

Cven ar gvesmis sityva RmerTisa da<br />

WeSmaritebis mniSvneloba da yvela<br />

brunvaSi vatrialebT.<br />

raxan am Temaze vsaubrobT,<br />

raRac terminebiT unda gamovxatoT<br />

kidec es yvelaferi. aucileblad<br />

dasafiqrebelia, ras veZebT,<br />

_ me veZeb raRac ambiciebs, Zalauflebas,<br />

erSi ver Sevdeqi da axla<br />

eklesiaSi raRac unda vipovo, Tu<br />

me veZeb sakuTar TavSi xsnas, imis<br />

gacnobierebas, ra problema maqvs...<br />

razec aRsarebis saidumlo<br />

dgas, rom Sen gaacnobiero saku-<br />

Tari codvebi, Seni arasrulyofileba,<br />

Seni nakli. gamosavali mxolod<br />

es aris, rom adamianma daiwyos<br />

azrovneba. bolos da bolos, gaiazros,<br />

rom arsebobs organizebuli<br />

religia da religia, rogorc<br />

Sinagani gamocdileba. anu rogoria<br />

Seni gza da mizani cxovrebaSi,<br />

rom ganTavisuflde arasrulfasovnebisgan<br />

(adamiani arasrulfasovani<br />

arsebaa). ganTavisuflde absoluturad<br />

yvelafrisgan, yvela<br />

avtoritetisgan, ideologiisgan,<br />

Sen TavSi adamiani daabruno, gaxde<br />

ubralod adamiani.<br />

Cemi azriT, swored es aris sakuTari<br />

Tavis uaryofa, razec<br />

qriste saubrobda. uaryo Tavsmoxveuli<br />

idealebi Tu ideologiebi,<br />

principebi Tu stereotipebi, rac<br />

mere gonebas ganpirobebuls xdis<br />

da aseT labirinTSi Sehyavs. es er-<br />

TaderTi gamosavalia, rom adamianma<br />

azrovneba daiwyos, _ ra unda,<br />

ras eZebs am xanmokle cxovrebaSi.<br />

ras ewireba misi qmedebebi, misi ambiciebi,<br />

Tu yoveldRiuri cxovreba.<br />

am TvalsazrisiT, Tu vinmes<br />

kidev brmad egona, rom viRac avtoritetebi<br />

misTvis Suamavlebi<br />

iqnebodnen, didi imedi maqvs, mixvdebian,<br />

rom veravin migiyvans RmerTTan,<br />

Tu ara Seni gaazrebuli,<br />

gacnobierebuli da gasufTavebuli<br />

goneba.<br />

_ xedavT rame progress aRniS-<br />

nul gzaze?<br />

_ amas axal TaobaSi vxedav, visTanac<br />

Sexeba maqvs, visac vaswavli,<br />

me maTSi yvelaze mTavars, Ziebis<br />

survils vxedav. CvenSi xom didi<br />

wyveta moxda, raRac idealebze<br />

awyobili qarTuli mentaloba<br />

modioda da uceb, 21-e saukunem<br />

sruliad axali gamowvevebis winaSe<br />

dagvayena. es bavSvebi sruliad dabneulebi<br />

darCnen, veRar mixvdnen,<br />

saiT unda wavidnen.<br />

am dros maTSi Ziebis survils<br />

vxedav. aranairi brmad morCileba<br />

aRar aris. vxedav survils iswavlon,<br />

ganviTardnen, gaacnobieron, gaiazron,<br />

upirvelesad, sakuTari<br />

Tavi, vin arian. jer unda gaigo, saerTod<br />

vin xar Sen, rom mere daiwyo<br />

fiqri imaze, Tu ra substancia<br />

SeiZleba iyos RmerTi, rogor Sei-<br />

Zleba RmerTamde mixvide da a. S.<br />

Cven davkargeT mokrZaleba yvelafris<br />

mimarT, rasac „wmindas”<br />

vuwodebT. jer rom am xmamaRal<br />

sityvebs vatrialebT, aravin icis,<br />

ra aris siwminde (religiuri konteqstidan<br />

vsubrob), samagierod,<br />

Cveni RmerTi fuli da Zalaufleba<br />

gaxda.<br />

axal TaobaSi swored amas vxedav,<br />

rom aRar surT, vinmes xelSi<br />

brma iaraRad iyvnen. es iqneba saxelmwifo<br />

Tu sasuliero ideologia.<br />

xsna mxolod ganaTlebaa, gacnobiereba,<br />

azrovneba da sakuTari<br />

Tavis Zieba.<br />

_ bolo leqcia gqondaT Tem-<br />

aze, Tu rogor unda moipovos<br />

adamianma Tavisufleba, iqneb, am<br />

maradiul sakiTxsac kidev erTx-<br />

el SevexoT...<br />

_ leqciazec vambobdi, rom,<br />

pirvel rigSi, gaacnobiereT, ra<br />

giSliT xels, ris gamo ar xarT Tavisufali.<br />

rodesac dainaxav mTel<br />

im nagavs, riTac aRsavsea Seni goneba<br />

(rasac ganpirobebuli goneba<br />

hqvia), rom Sen xar mona Senive<br />

survilebis, sxeulebrivi moTxovnilebebis,<br />

idealebis, avtoritetebis,<br />

kerpebis, praqtikulad,<br />

yvelafris mona xar, jer es yvelaferi<br />

dainaxe da mere modis umniSvnelovanesi<br />

etapi, _ ginda ki am<br />

yvelafrisgan Tavisufali iyo?<br />

am yvelafrisgan Tavisufleba<br />

niSnavs, pasuxismgebloba aiRo sakuTar<br />

Tavze, yvela Sens qmedebaze.<br />

advilia, iq RmerTs daabralo,<br />

mamaos, viRac maswavlebels Camokido<br />

da Tqva, rom man miTxra, mir-<br />

Cia, albaT, Cemze ukeTesad icis,<br />

tradicia amas meubneba, winaprebi<br />

amas meubnebodnen da a. S.<br />

rodesac mzad iqnebi, sakuTar<br />

Tavze aiRo sruli pasuxismgebloba,<br />

ai, maSin gaxdebi Tavisufali.<br />

ase rom, gonebis eSmakuri TamaSebia,<br />

rodesac adamians hgonia, rom<br />

unda iyos Tavisufali.<br />

Cven vxedavdiT, rom kacobriobis<br />

istoriaSi yvela revolucia,<br />

amboxi Tavisuflebis saxeliT iwyeboda<br />

da, saboloo jamSi, is xalxi,<br />

vinc qveynis saTaveSi modioda,<br />

TviTonve diqtatori xdeboda,<br />

an msgavsi mcdelobebi hqonda. aman<br />

aCvena, rom aranairi garegnuli<br />

Tavisufleba ar arsebobs. arsebobs<br />

mxolod erTi, Sinagani Tavisufleba,<br />

Tavisufleba ganpirobebuli<br />

gonebisgan da am ganpirobebulobas<br />

Tu dainaxav, mere dasvi<br />

kiTxva, _ ginda ki Tavisufleba?<br />

xar ki mzad amisTvis? mere Sesa-<br />

Zloa, movides es Tavisufleba. amas,<br />

upirvelesad, uSiSroba sWirdeba,<br />

aseve didi energia, didi Zalisxmeva<br />

da goniereba.<br />

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ra aris skolamdeli aRzrda?<br />

ra unar-Cvevebi unda Camouyalibdes bavSvs? ra unda iswav-<br />

los da ris akrZalvas unda mivaCvioT mozardebi?.. ratom<br />

iwyeba qalaq Telavis baga-baRebSi aRzrdis procesi 9<br />

saaTidan 10-is naxevramde? ratom aris baga-baRebi 10 saaTis<br />

Semdeg Caketili? ra moswonT da ra ar moswonT aRmzrdelebs?<br />

ra icvleba da ra rCeba Sesacvleli skolamdel dawesebule-<br />

bebSi? ramdenad mniSvnelovania menius sajarooba? aris Tu<br />

ara gavrcelebuli miTi Tu realoba is faqti, rom baga-baReb-<br />

Si bavSvebs Zils ukrZalaven?<br />

yvela am mwvave da mniSvnelovan<br />

kiTxvaze „qronika+”-s pasuxobs<br />

qalaq Telavis baga-ba-<br />

Rebis gaerTianebis ufrosi _<br />

TinaTin xanjaliaSvili:<br />

_ Soridan ver daviwyebT,<br />

albaT, imitom, rom Zalian cota<br />

xania, rac baga-baRebis gae-<br />

rTianebis xelmZRvaneli xarT,<br />

magram, mainc, yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />

kiTxva: ramdenad icnobT<br />

skolamdel dawesebule-<br />

bas?<br />

_ Temas ase SevxedoT: ra aris<br />

skolamdeli aRzrda? adamianis<br />

ganviTarebisTvis gadamwyveti<br />

mniSvneloba aqvs sicocxlis<br />

pirvel eqvs wels. rogorc<br />

bolo aTwleulebis kvlevebma<br />

aCvena, swored am asakSi xdeba<br />

bavSvis im Tvisebebisa da unarebis<br />

Camoyalibeba, romelic<br />

momavalSi gansazRvravs mis<br />

warmatebebsa da miRwevebs. amitom<br />

aris gansakuTrebiT mniSvnelovani,<br />

eqvs wlamde asakis<br />

bavSvebs SevuqmnaT yvela piroba<br />

maTi yovelmxirv ganviTarebisTvis.<br />

unda gvaxsovdes, rom<br />

skolis asakis bavSvebis inteleqti<br />

damokidebulia imaze, Tu<br />

ramdenad uzrunvelyofdnen<br />

ufrosebi bavSvis tvinis aqtiurad<br />

muSaobisTvis pirobebs<br />

misi cxovrebis pirveli eqvsi<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi. cnobilia,<br />

rom Tavis tvinis es areebi, romelsac<br />

ar avarjiSeben, wyvets<br />

ganviTarebas da TandaTan Sei-<br />

Zleba, nawilobriv, an mTlianad,<br />

atrofirdes.<br />

_ ra aris xarisxiani skola-<br />

mdeli ganaTlebis mTavari<br />

arsi? ra unda SecvaloT Te-<br />

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lavis baga-baRebSi?<br />

_ pirveli: saswavlo programebi,<br />

romlebic sadRac viRacisgan<br />

ki ar unda aviRoT magaliTad<br />

(Tumca kargis aReba mudam<br />

SeiZleba), nebismieri saswavlo<br />

programa kvlevaze unda<br />

iyos dafuZnebuli. baRebs aRmzrdelTa<br />

maRali kvalifikacia<br />

unda hqondeT da, amave dros,<br />

profesiuli zrdis SesaZlebloba.<br />

es ar unda iyos calmxrivi,<br />

mSoblebisa da ojaxebis<br />

mxardaWera da CarTuloba baRebTan<br />

erTad bavSvis ganviTarebis<br />

procesSi aucilebelia. aqve<br />

fizikuri, SemecnebiTi, metyvelebisa<br />

da socialur-emociuri<br />

unarebis ganviTareba, bavSvze<br />

dakvirveba da swored<br />

yvela bavSvTan individualuri<br />

midgomaa aucilebeli. yvelaze<br />

umTavresi, rac unda moxdes,<br />

aris mcire ricxviani jgufebisa<br />

da bavSvebis raodenobis<br />

adekvaturi Tanafardoba. Tumca<br />

es bolo samomavlod gadasaWreli<br />

sakiTxia.<br />

_ da Tu es yvelaferi mox-<br />

da, ras vcvliT, ra Sedegs<br />

viRebT?<br />

_ bavSvs ukeTesi saskolo<br />

mzaoba eqmneba, kargi akademiuri<br />

moswreba skolaSi da maRali<br />

maCvenebeli skolis damTavrebisas.<br />

pirvel 6 wels Cven vyriT<br />

safuZvels, Semdeg ki viRebT<br />

bavSvs, romelsac jansaRi<br />

cxovrebis wesisken aqvs midrekileba,<br />

mas SeuZlia, airidos<br />

mavne Cvevebisadmi damokidebulebebi<br />

da depresia. momavalSi<br />

igi advilad gamoavlens da gadawyvets<br />

problemebs gunduri<br />

`bavSvze fizikuri Zaladoba, sityvieri<br />

Seuracxyofa, xmamaRali saubari,<br />

bavSvTan mis mSobelze an meurveze<br />

negatiuri eniT saubari da<br />

diskriminaciuli enis gamoyeneba.<br />

gamovlenis pirvelsave dadasturebuli<br />

SemTxveva eqvemdebareba samsaxuridan<br />

daTxovas. dadasturebaSi igulisxmeba<br />

mowmeTa Cvenebebis arseboba, xolo<br />

fizikuri Zaladobis SemTxvevaSi - eqimis<br />

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_ mec myavda patara Svile-<br />

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problema iyo bavSvis baRSi mi-<br />

yvana, radgan Zalian xSirad<br />

soflidan amohyavdaT da aq<br />

uwevdaT siaruli. amis mizezi<br />

ki maSin soflebSi daxuruli<br />

baga-baRebi iyo. dRes es sakiTxi<br />

soflad gadaWrilia, ma-<br />

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gram mainc aris problema,<br />

sofelSi mcxovreblebi isev<br />

TelavSi atareben bavSvebs ba-<br />

ga-baRSi. Sevsebuli jgufebis<br />

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gazrdil kvalifikaciebs! Zalian<br />

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meti seriozulobiT moekidos<br />

da xeli Segviwyos marTvis swori<br />

standartebis damkvidreba-<br />

Si.<br />

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saxelwodebis safirmo koqteili<br />

maqvs, plus, yvelafers rasac vakeTebT,<br />

paradoqsulobiT vxsniT<br />

xolme. gaxsnis dResac erT-erTi<br />

stumari mRvdeli iyo _ esec paradoqsuli<br />

aRmoCnda. isic erToboda<br />

yvelasTan erTad. nebismieri sakiTxi<br />

SeiZleba avxsnaT, rogorc<br />

paradoqsi am barSi, zustad amitom<br />

davarqvi.<br />

_ Tavad ras akeTeb barSi?<br />

_ barmeni var, megobrebi bevr<br />

rameSi mexmarebian. adre movdivar,<br />

bars valageb, mere zogjer samzareuloSic<br />

vakeTeb xolme saWmelebs.<br />

TiTqmis yvelafers me vakeTeb.<br />

Tumca cakle mzareulic myavs,<br />

ra Tqma unda.<br />

_ swavlas rogor uTavseb am<br />

yvelafers?<br />

_ axla universitetSi dasveneba<br />

gvaqvs, amitom jer vaTavseb, magram<br />

merec, savaraudod, movaswreb,<br />

radgan saRamoobiT vxsni xolme<br />

bars da leqciebze dRis man-<br />

Zilze unda viaro. Tu kargad ver<br />

SevuTavse, maSin sxva barmens aviyvan<br />

da naxevar ganakveTze vamuSaveb.<br />

_ sabolood, ra aris Seni mizani?<br />

am sistemaSi apireb darCe-<br />

nas da barmenobas?<br />

_ ara, sabolood, minda, Sevdge<br />

da im dones mivaRwio, rac Cafiqrebuli<br />

maqvs. minda, yvelas davumtkico,<br />

rom raRac SemiZlia.<br />

_ pirvelad gadawyvetileba vis<br />

gaande?<br />

_ Tavidan es iyo ideis doneze,<br />

2 wlis manZilze, ubralod, vambobdi,<br />

rom minda da morCa. amaze mamidaSvilTan<br />

vsaubrobdi, romelTan<br />

erTadac vcxovrob. jer erTad<br />

gvindoda gagvexsna, magram mere<br />

davfiqdi da mivxvdi, rom saqmiani<br />

urTierToba megobrobas afuWebs<br />

da mirCevnia, martom gavakeTo es,<br />

vidre megobrebi davkargo da, saboloo<br />

jamSi, raRac cudi Sedegi<br />

moitanos am yvelaferma.<br />

_ rogor mixvdi, rom es sfero<br />

unda<br />

iyos is, sadac Seni adgil-<br />

ia?<br />

_ jer mimtanoba rom daviwye,<br />

mivxvdi, rom, Turme, adamianebTan<br />

komunikacia SemiZlia da kargad<br />

gamomdis. roca xalxi Semodioda,<br />

ukve Cemi naxva uxarodaT da mekiTxebodnen,<br />

mwerdnen kidec, rodis<br />

vmuSaobdi, rom maSin mosuliyvnen<br />

da im dRes eWamaT, daeliaT.<br />

yvelasTan kargi urTierToba<br />

Camovayalibe. axlac rom vmegobrobT,<br />

es faqti Zalian mixaria.<br />

roca barmenoba daviwye, mere mivxvdi,<br />

rom Cemi wvlili Semqonda<br />

urTierTobaSi, radgan barmeni<br />

bevr adamiansac exmareba komunikaciisas.<br />

es Cveulebrivi fsiqologia.<br />

bevr Temaze vsaubrobT xolme.<br />

amis garda, TviTon vigoneb koqteilebs,<br />

romlis gemoc Tavad ar<br />

vici, radgan verafers vekarebi,<br />

rasac Saqari aqvs, rac tkbilia da<br />

saqarozas Seicavs. bavSvobidan ase<br />

var, saqarozas Semcveli nebismieri<br />

produqtis gasinjvisTanave Rebineba<br />

mewyeba, Sesabamisad, TiTqmis<br />

arc erTi Cemi gakeTebuli koqteilis<br />

gemo ar vici, Tu odnav mainc<br />

tkbilia. arada, roca stumars<br />

raimes vumzadeb, Tavad ar vici<br />

xolme gemo, Tumca, roca adamians<br />

ajareb, rom rasac sTavazob, is<br />

kargia da gemrielia, swored ise<br />

miiRebs, rogorc awodeb, Tan Tu<br />

amateb imas, rom Tu ar moewoneba,<br />

Tavad gadavixdi, es ukve sxva ambavia.<br />

bolos, mainc urTierToba ayalibebs<br />

am ndobas da ara sxva ram.<br />

_ gaqvs gadawyvetileba,<br />

romelic ginania?<br />

_ araferi minania saerTod.<br />

saqarTveloSi rom Camovedi, cota<br />

xans megona, vnanobdi am nabijs,<br />

magram imdenad kargad avawyve Cemi<br />

cxovreba da imdenad Camoyalibebuli<br />

pirovneba aRmovCndi, ukve<br />

mixaria, aq rom Camovedi. damouk-<br />

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ara maRal quslebze<br />

ideblobas SeveCvie.<br />

_ ra sirTuleebi Segxvedria<br />

cxovrebaSi?<br />

_ gansakuTrrebuli araferi.<br />

gaaCnia, rogor Sexedav movlenebs.<br />

Tu SeZeli raRacis gadalaxva, es,<br />

sirTule ki ara, cxovrebis garkveuli<br />

etapia. marTalia, maSin ggonia,<br />

rom sirTulea, magram, realurad,<br />

es cxovrebis etapia. am dros ise-<br />

Ti adamiani, an adamianebi gWirdeba,<br />

romlebic getyvian, rom amas<br />

Cvulebriv gadalaxav da Zlieri<br />

unda iyo.<br />

_ ra ggonia, vis hgavxar?<br />

_ ar myavs aranairi gmiri, me var<br />

Cemi gmiri, is adamiani, vinc 20 da<br />

30 wlis Semdeg warmomidgenia.<br />

_ ra aris is, rac SenTvis yve-<br />

laze Zvirfasia adamianSi?<br />

_ gulwrfeloba. ar miyvars<br />

tyuili, mware simarTle mirCevnia.<br />

_ visTvis, an risTvis ar genane-<br />

ba rame?<br />

_ aravisTvis, radgan vfiqrob,<br />

rom me Tu ar vanaxe, gavunawile,<br />

ar vaCuqe sxvas, is ver SeZlebs,<br />

gaagrZelos sikeTe da sxva gaabednieros,<br />

an, ubralod, ramiT asiamovnos.<br />

Tu adamiani Tavad ar<br />

akeTebs imas, rasac sxvas aswavlis,<br />

es arasworia. e. i. maswavlebelia,<br />

magram TviTon ver iqceva sworad.<br />

_ risi gjera?<br />

_ Tovlis babuis. bavSvobidan.<br />

ra vqna? mjera! yvela meubneba, rom<br />

ar arsebobs da viRac gadacmuli<br />

kacia, romelic bavSvebs atyuebs,<br />

magram mjera. feriebisac mjera.<br />

_ risi keTeba giyvars yvelaze<br />

metad?<br />

_ Zili miyvars, magram, samwuxarod,<br />

ar mZinavs.<br />

_ ra gaRizianebs?<br />

_ adamiani rom yvelas yvelafers<br />

aswavlis, yvelaze Wkviani<br />

hgonia Tavi. arada, yvelaferi xom<br />

SedarebiTia, ar arsebobs yvelaferSi<br />

erTdroulad ganviTarebuli<br />

adamiani. mTeli cxovrebis<br />

manZilze raRacas vswavlobT.<br />

_ risi Secvlaa saWiro siste-<br />

maSi?<br />

_ is, rom Tundac mimtani an<br />

barmeni mxolod movaleobis gamo<br />

akeTebs am saqmes. rac evaleba, mxolod<br />

magas akeTebs. Tavisi saqme<br />

ar uyvars. mxolod movaleobis<br />

gamo ki ar uda gauRimos stumars,<br />

aramed imitom, rom adamians uxaria<br />

eg Rimili, vfiqrob, rom sistemaSi<br />

TviTon am sistemis warmomadgenlebi<br />

arian Sesacvleli. samuSaosac<br />

ise unda Sexedon, rogorc<br />

adamianebTan urTierTobas da ara,<br />

ubralod, movaleobas.<br />

_ SenTvis samagaliTo vin aris?<br />

_ magaliTi ara, magram ideaSi<br />

myavs warmodgenili sakuTari Tavi<br />

10-20 wlis Semdeg, rogoric minda<br />

viyo. minda, imas mivaRwio, rom Tqma<br />

SevZlo, me es gavakeTe, radgan mindoda!<br />

_ Jurnalistikis fakultetze<br />

ratom Caabare?<br />

_ wera miyvars da amitom.<br />

leqsebs vwer. wignis dawera minda<br />

da imedi maqvs, gamomiva.<br />

_ ra geamayeba?<br />

_ is, rom roca Cems das an Zmas<br />

kiTxva, rCeva an saubari sWirdeba,<br />

CemTan modian da melaparakebian.<br />

ra Tqma unda, megobrebi hyavT, magram<br />

mainc me mirekaven. Cemi 9 wlis<br />

Zma me melodeba sasaubrod, Cems<br />

das sul CemTan unda yofna.<br />

_ kmayofili xar xolme saku-<br />

Tari TaviT?<br />

_ gaaCnia, rodis. ZiriTadad,<br />

Zalian susti mgonia Cemi Tavi da<br />

Zalian maRizianebs es. minda, rom<br />

ufro Zlieri gavxde da Cemi sityva<br />

bevr rames niSnavdes.<br />

_ rogor fiqrob, sakuTari<br />

Tavi ipove?<br />

_ vfiqrob, rom sakuTari Tavis<br />

povna SeuZlebelia, radgan cx-<br />

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ovrebis manZilze sul raRac axali<br />

gesmis da gizidavs. Tu ggonia,<br />

rom sakuTari Tavi ipove, SesaZloa,<br />

ramdenime weliwadSi mixvde,<br />

rom, Turme, ar gipovia da sxva rame<br />

ginda. ubralod, unda ipovo adgili,<br />

sadac Tavs kargad igrZnob im<br />

mocemuli droisTvis. sakuTari bedniereba<br />

unda ipovo. me ar mipovia.<br />

_ ra ggonia, rodis daisveneb<br />

yvelafrisgan?<br />

_ arasdros. roca mets aRwev,<br />

metis miRweva ginda: meti swavla,<br />

metis gakeTeba, amisgan verasdros<br />

daisveneb.<br />

_ raze fiqrob xolme yvelaze<br />

xSirad?<br />

_ imaze, rom jer imis gakeTeba<br />

ar gamomdis, rac minda. raRac<br />

problemebi geqmneba cxovrebaSi,<br />

sul raRac axali iCens Tavs, sxvadasxva<br />

safiqralia, magram vcdilob,<br />

rom, zogadad, problemebze<br />

ar vifiqro, Tumca bolo dros saerTod<br />

arc ki maqvs imis dro, rom<br />

yofiTi Temebis garda sxva rameze<br />

vifiqro. vzivar da meqanikurad<br />

vakeTeb raRacas.<br />

_ raze ocnebob?<br />

_ araferze. eg xom iseTi ramea,<br />

rasac verasdros miaRwev. danarCeni<br />

mizania. es ki bevri maqvs, magram<br />

auxdeneli _ ara. marTalia, bevri<br />

rame minda da cota meocnebec var,<br />

magram zRvars vavleb mizansa da<br />

ocnebas Soris. Zalian bevrs Tu<br />

moindomeb, aisruleb.<br />

_ axla ra aris Seni mizani?<br />

_ axla minda, rom es bari kargad<br />

Camovayalibo. im donemde minda<br />

mivide, romelic ideaSi maqvs.<br />

minda, wigni davwero, minda, bolomde<br />

damoukidebeli viyo. minda,<br />

rom xval gaviRviZo da ar vifiqro,<br />

rogor unda gadavixado komunalurebis<br />

Tanxa, puri rogor viyido<br />

da a. S. SemiZlia, dedas davureko<br />

da daxmareba vTxovo, magram<br />

amas ar gavakeTeb, radgan Cemi<br />

bralia, Tu es ver SevZeli.<br />

_ ra aris SenTvis Tavisufle-<br />

ba?<br />

_ arCevani.<br />

_ Tavisufali xar?<br />

_ bolomde ara.<br />

_ ra gzRudavs?<br />

_ sazogadoeba. saqarTveloSi<br />

bevri ramis gakeTeba SeuZlebelia<br />

da Tu gaakeTeb, Sen garSemo Zalian<br />

bevr adamians dakargav, amitomac<br />

yvelas gaqceva unda aqedan. Tumca<br />

ramdenime wlis Semdeg im sasurvel<br />

dones rom mivaRwev, aRar davfiqrdebi,<br />

Tu ramden adamians davkargav<br />

Cem garSemo, radeni adamiani<br />

mimiRebs da ramdeni _ ara. axla,<br />

ubralod, amisTvis dro mWirdeba.<br />

axla imdenad damoukidebeli ar<br />

var, rom am Tavisuflebas mivaRwio.<br />

_ Sinaganad ramdeni wlis xar?<br />

_ gaaCnia, xadaxan mgonia, rom 2<br />

wlis bavSvi var, xandaxan _ 60 wlis.<br />

_ yvelaze didi STabeWdileba<br />

ram moaxdina Senze?<br />

_ bebiam. mivxvdi, rom adamians<br />

SeuZlia, sakuTari Tavi da cxovreba<br />

daiviwyos da yvelaferi sxvis<br />

gamo akeTos, Tan ise, rom ar Tqvas,<br />

Tqven gamo vakeTeb amaso. ubralod,<br />

Tavis cxovrebas swiravs<br />

imisTvis, rom irgvliv xalxi bednieri<br />

iyos.<br />

iciT, flaerebs rom varigebdi,<br />

imaze vfiqrobdi, rom pirvelive<br />

dRes ver gavZeli, imdenad rTuli<br />

iyo sirbili universitetsa da samsaxurs<br />

Soris, sirbili, dgoma, mTeli<br />

4 saaTi gauCereblad unda gevlo.<br />

erTi kviris Semdeg vfiqrobdi,<br />

rom Tavs davanebebdi da isev<br />

mSoblebs vTxovdi fuls, Tumca<br />

dRis bolos, roca ukve saxlSi<br />

unda wavsuliavi da ver mivdiodi,<br />

radgan fexebi sastikad mtkioda,<br />

imaze vfqirobdi, Tu ratom Seu-<br />

Zlia bebias ase Tavganwirulad<br />

muSaoba da me _ ara. is Tu Cem gamo<br />

amdens akeTebs, mec SemiZlia!<br />

_ riT isveneb?<br />

_ adre viqrobdi, rom dasveneba<br />

iyo saxlSi yofna, arafers keTeba<br />

da filmis yureba, magram mivxvdi,<br />

rom muSaobis dros visveneb. ar<br />

SemiZlia, saxlSi vijde da, ubralod,<br />

ase viyo. momwons, rom aseTi<br />

reJimi maqvs. diliT distribucia<br />

gaRviZebs, unda mixvide da raRac<br />

gaakeTo, irbino, bankSi Sexvide,<br />

problemebi geqmneba... esaa dasveneba.<br />

roca ukve dasaZineblad mivdivar,<br />

xSirad vxvdebi, rom kidev<br />

aqeT, qaosSi minda.<br />

_ vin aris sofo abaSiZe?<br />

_ ubralod, adamiani, Tavisi<br />

miznebiT.<br />

_ SenTvis siyvaruli ras niS-<br />

navs?<br />

_ yvelafers. yvelaniari siyvaruli<br />

aris is biZgi da stimuli,<br />

romelic win giSvebs, gaswavlis da<br />

cdilobs im idealamde, im donemde<br />

gagiyvanos, ris miRwevasac cdilob.<br />

egoisti ar xar, mxolod sakuTar<br />

Tavze ki ara, sxvebzec fiqrob.<br />

cdilob, rom kargad iyvnen.<br />

_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />

zogadoebisTvis?<br />

_ ar geSinodes arafris da gariske<br />

sul, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

geSina, ggonia, ar gamogiva, _ Sen<br />

gamogiva imitom, rom es ginda!<br />

imaze ar idardo, rom vals daideb,<br />

ar idardo, rom raRac ar gamogiva,<br />

Secdomas gaiTvaliswineb<br />

da imaves aRar dauSveb, meored gamogiva.<br />

es nabiji Tu ar gadadgi,<br />

verafers miaRwev, iseTi susti<br />

darCebi, rogoric xar, araferic<br />

ar Seicvleba.<br />

yvelafer amasTan erTad ki, rac<br />

mTavaria, ubralod, adamianebi<br />

davrCeT da erTmaneTi gavaxaroT.<br />

me wamovedi, is ki Tavis barSi<br />

darCa. saRamos stumrebs elodeba<br />

da amitom iqaurobas awes-<br />

rigebs. iqidan gamosuli bevr<br />

rameze vfiqrobdi. sabolood ki<br />

davrwmundi, rom Tu marTla moindomeb,<br />

miznis miRwevaSi win veraferi<br />

dagidgeba. man SeZlo! Sem-<br />

degi Sen xar!<br />

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gverdi moamzada<br />

levan janezaSvilma<br />

borjRalosnebma espaneli lomebic dasces<br />

saqarTvelos erovnuli saragbo nakre-<br />

bi damajereblad miiwevs `ragbi evropis~<br />

Cempionatis morigi titulisken. mesame<br />

turis matCi borjRalosnebma tradiciu-<br />

lad uxerxul metoqe espaneTTan gamarTes.<br />

valiadolidSi maspinZlebma medgari<br />

winaaRmdegoba gagviwies da pirveli taimic<br />

mogviges, magram Cveni gundis ufro maRal-<br />

ma klasma mainc Tavisi qna da, sabolood,<br />

20:10 gavimarjveT.<br />

borjRalosnebma espaneTSi gansxvavebuli<br />

stiliT iTamaSes. milton heigis Segirdebma<br />

uari Tqves cnobili qarTuli molis<br />

gamoyenebaze da yvela derefnis Semdeg xeldaxel<br />

cdilobdnen ieriSis gaSlas. aman<br />

ramdenjerme gaamarTla da mwvave Setevebidan<br />

ori leloTi dasrulda.<br />

raki mesame turSi wina metoqeebTan SedarebiT<br />

Zlier oponentTan gviwevda brZola,<br />

heigma Semadgenloba gaaZliera da ‘lomebTan~<br />

TamaSisTvis ramdenime liders uxmo<br />

- meore xazSi giorgi nemsaZes kote miqautaZe<br />

Seuwyvilda; aRdga ZiriTadi RerZi -<br />

vasil lobJaniZisa da laSa xmalaZis dueti;<br />

dabrundnen kvaWebi - jaba bregvaZe da<br />

Salva mamukaSvili, Tumca es badri alxazaSvilisa<br />

da giorgi WyoiZis travmebma ganapiroba;<br />

travma moiSuSa da gunds daubrunda<br />

daviT kaWarava.<br />

paralelurad, heigi axali xalxis gamocdas<br />

ganagrZobs da Serkinebis mesame xazSi<br />

oTar giorgaZem iTamaSa; Secvlaze iTamaSa<br />

da meore kepi moixveWa giorgi cucqiriZem;<br />

axalbedebi iyvnen burjebi, xolo xazis<br />

moTamaSeTagan ors debiuti hqonda. soso<br />

maTiaSvilma TamaSi sastarto SemadgenlobaSi<br />

daiwyo da debiuti leloTi aRniSna.<br />

travmirebuli kapitnis, merab SariqaZis<br />

nacvlad, Secvlaze pirvelive taimSi badri<br />

liparteliani Sevida, romelic 250-e borjRalosani<br />

gaxda.<br />

angariSi espanelebma matCis debiutSi<br />

jarimiT gaxsnes. borjRalosnebma teritoriuli<br />

da saTamaSo upiratesoba moipoves,<br />

Tumca metoqem Tavi kargad daicva da merab<br />

kvirikaSvilma wonasworoba mxolod 22-e<br />

wuTze aRadgina. amas qarTvelTa Secdomebi<br />

moyva, riTac `lomebma~ isargebles da<br />

ragbi evropis wlevandel gaTamaSebaSi pirveli<br />

lelo dagvides. mizans meorexazeli<br />

ngavindi miswvda, linqleiTerma gardasaxa<br />

da taimi 10:3 dasrulda.<br />

Sesvenebis Semdeg borjRalosnebi<br />

moedanze ufro mobilizebuli gavidnen da<br />

es Sedegze maleve aisaxa.<br />

44-e wuTze derefnidan gaTamaSebuli<br />

kombinaciis Semdeg leloSi Salva mamukaSvili<br />

Sefrinda, Tumca burTis damiwebamde<br />

fexi gverdiT xazs Seaxo; oriode wuTSi<br />

kvirikaSvilma xazi gaWra, maTiaSvilma kargad<br />

iara, lobJaniZem jarima swrafad gaiTamaSa,<br />

xmalaZem mcvelebi crumoZraobaze<br />

gamoiWira da SeboWilma burTi cali xeliT<br />

ZelebsSua daamiwa, Tumca referim CaTvala,<br />

rom bolo momentSi laSam burTze kontroli<br />

dakarga.<br />

erT wuTSi lelo mainc gavida - derefnidan<br />

karisken ramdenime dartymis Semdeg<br />

lobJaniZem Setevis mimarTuleba Secvala,<br />

giorgi TxilaiSvilma pirveli mboWavi<br />

kontaqtiT Camoicila, meores dausxlta da<br />

lelo dado. kvirikaSvilma gardasaxviT<br />

angariSi gaaTanabra - 10:10.<br />

58-e wuTze borjRalosnebi matCSi pirvelad<br />

da sabolood dawinaurdnen. kvirikaSvilma<br />

mcvelebis zurgsukan carieli sivrce<br />

SeniSna da burTi Seacura, mas debiutanti<br />

maTiaSvili miyva, aitaca da alamTan<br />

Sexta. kvirikaSvilma rTuli poziciidan<br />

gardasaxa.<br />

espanelebi movlenebis aseT ganviTarebas<br />

ar Seeguen da mwvaved Segvities. daaxloebiT<br />

10 wuTi TamaSi Cveni 22-is xazTan mimdinareobda,<br />

borjRalosnebma Tavis dacva<br />

moaxerxes, mere SerkinebaSi imZlavres, sabala<br />

sinbiniTac daisaja da situacia ganimuxta.<br />

radgan dro iwureboda da bonus<br />

qulisTvis TamaSi aRar gamodioda, Tanac<br />

metoqes mxolod erTi gardasaxuli lelo-<br />

Ti vjobdiT, kvirikaSvilma 78-e wuTze jarima<br />

karSi daartya da saboloo Sedegi<br />

daafiqisra - 20:10.<br />

kviras, 12 marts, borjRalosnebs wlis<br />

erT-erTi uprincipulesi matCi eliT – 18<br />

saaTze ‘dinamo arenaze~ saqarTvelo-ruse-<br />

Tis dapirispireba daiwyeba.<br />

espaneTi - saqarTvelo 10:20<br />

espaneTi: lopes peresi, bernsi, alberto<br />

blanko alonso, gavidi, sanCes borego, vilianueva<br />

martini, kanosa, fontana, rue, beli,<br />

Jorba, alvaresi, sni, kastejoni, linqleiteri<br />

Secvlaze Sevidnen: fransisko blanko<br />

alonso, auski, sabala arieta, giiomi, fouldsi,<br />

ramos martini, ximeno soria, mingiioni<br />

mwvrTneli: santiago santosi<br />

lelo: gavidi<br />

gardasaxva: linqleiteri<br />

jarima: linqleiteri<br />

saqarTvelo: TeTraSvili, mamukaSvili, bekoSvili,<br />

nemsaZe, miqautaZe, giorgaZe, TxilaiSvili,<br />

lomiZe, lobJaniZe, xmalaZe, Todua,<br />

SariqaZe, kaWarava, maTiaSvili, kvirikaSvili<br />

Secvlaze Sevidnen: bregvaZe, mataraZe,<br />

tabiZe, cucqiriZe, begaZe, liparteliani,<br />

wiklauri<br />

mwvrTneli: milton heigi<br />

lelo: TxilaiSvili, maTiaSvili<br />

gardasaxva: kvirikaSvili (2)<br />

jarima: kvirikaSvili<br />

gaimarTa mesame turis sxva matCebic.<br />

ruseTma rumineTs umaspinZla da 10:30 damarcxda,<br />

germania-belgiis daZabuli dapirispireba<br />

ki maspinZelTa gamarjvebiT, 34:29<br />

dasrulda.<br />

saturniro mdgomareoba sami turis Semdeg:<br />

1. saqarTvelo – 14 qula<br />

2. rumineTi – 10<br />

3. germania – 8<br />

4. espaneTi – 4<br />

5. ruseTi – 4<br />

6. belgia – 2<br />

ori medali<br />

poloneTidan<br />

reitingSi saukeTeso<br />

SavdaTuaSvilia<br />

poloneTis qalaq katoviceSi<br />

Ziudos Ria turniri gaimarTa,<br />

sadac saqarTvelodan is Ziudo-<br />

istebi wavidnen, romlebic ero-<br />

vnul nakrebSi iSviaTad xvdebian<br />

da wonis pirvel-meore nomrebSi<br />

ar moiazrebian. Sesabamisad, es ma-<br />

TTvis didi gamowveva iyo – warmatebulebs<br />

winsvlisa da nakreb-<br />

Si dawinaurebis Sansi miecemodaT.<br />

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sxva qveynebi ki poloneTSi sakmaod<br />

Zlieri SemadgenlobiT Cavidnen<br />

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da xuTive wmindad moigo, gadamwyvet<br />

brZolaSi ki ebrael daniel<br />

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Cveni delegaciidan kvarcxlbekze<br />

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kg), romelic meoTxedfinalSi damarcxda,<br />

magram mere damamSvidebel<br />

raundSi zedized ori brZola moigo.<br />

amasobaSi ki Ziudos saerTaSoriso<br />

federaciam axali reitingebi<br />

gamoaqveyna, sadac qarTvelTa<br />

poziciebi aseTia:<br />

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adgilzea, romlis Semdegac saukeTeso<br />

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vaJa margvelaSvili mexuTea, danarCeni<br />

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arian;<br />

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Txea, sxva wonebSi ki qarTvelebi<br />

saukeTeso oTxeulSic ver Sedian.<br />

amave wonaSi meaTe safexurzea nugzar<br />

tatalaSvili;<br />

81 kg: avTandil WrikiSvili,<br />

romelic ukve 90 kilogramSi<br />

Widaobs, me-11 adgilamde daqveiTda,<br />

me-18-a zebeda rexviaSvili, 54-<br />

e – uSangi margiani. nugzar tatalaSvili,<br />

romelic axla mkvidrdeba<br />

81-Si, jerjerobiT, 131-ea;<br />

90 kg: varlam liparteliani,<br />

romelic ukve aRar Widaobs 90<br />

kilogramSi, me-9 poziciamde daqveiTda,<br />

beqa RviniaSvili ki, romelic<br />

am wonaSi Cveni mTavari imedia,<br />

meaTea;<br />

100 kg: am wonaSi axlad gadasulma<br />

lipartelianma ukve moaswro<br />

37-e adgilamde asvla da misi<br />

winsvla aucileblad gagrZeldeba.<br />

mecxrea RviniaSvili, romelic 90-<br />

Si dabrunda.<br />

+100 kg: mZime wonaSi bolo<br />

dros SedegianobiT veRar gamovirCeviT<br />

da reitingic Sesabamisi<br />

gvaqvs – levan matiaSvili me-17-a,<br />

adam oqruaSvili me-20, guram Tu-<br />

SiSvili ki 49-e.<br />

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Cempionis danakargi da waugebeli maspinZlebi<br />

gasul uqmeebze saqarTvelos<br />

erovnuli safexburTo Cempionati<br />

daiwyo. erovnuli liga – amieri-<br />

dan ase ewodeba gaTamaSebas, romelsac<br />

aqamde umaRlesi liga er-<br />

qva. saxelwodebis garda, saqarT-<br />

velos Cempionats kidev bevri ram<br />

Seecvala. uZlieres ligaSi amieridan<br />

10 gundi iTamaSebs, Cem-<br />

pionati ki gazafxuli-Semodgomis<br />

sistemaze gadavida.<br />

ras mogvitans es siaxleebi, amas<br />

garkveuli drois gasvlis Semdeg<br />

gavigebT, manamde ki SevajamoT, ra<br />

moxda pirvel turSi.<br />

erovnuli liga qveynis moqmedi<br />

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`Suquras~ matCiT gaixsna.<br />

favoritebad, ra Tqma unda, maspin-<br />

Zlebi miiCneodnen da dasawyisSi<br />

yvelaferi maTTvis sasikeTod mimdinareobda.<br />

daviT raJamaSvilma<br />

Cempionatis sadebiuto goli gaitana<br />

da Tavisianebi daawinaura,<br />

Tbilisma martis pirvel ricxvebSi uefas<br />

samits umaspinZla. RonisZiebis mTavari Tema aRmosavleT<br />

evropis qveynebSi fexburTis masobri-<br />

obis ganviTareba iyo.<br />

samiti uefas istoriaSi pirvelad Catarda da<br />

masSi saqarTvelos, aRmosavleT evropis 13 qveynis,<br />

SvedeTisa da irlandiis fexburTis federaciebis<br />

xelmZRvanelebi da mTavrobis warmomadgen-<br />

lebi monawileobdnen.<br />

samitze aseve imsjeles qalTa fexburTis ma-<br />

sobriobis ganviTarebasa da fexburTSi CarTuli<br />

adamianebis ricxvis zrdisaTvis saganmanaTleblo<br />

proeqtebis aucileblobis mniSvnelobaze.<br />

samitis bolos samuSao procesi uefas erovnu-<br />

li asociaciebis xelmZRvanelma, zoran lakoviCma<br />

Seafasa: „upirvelesad, madlobas vuxdi saqarTvelos<br />

fexburTis federacias SesaniSnavad Sesrule-<br />

buli samuSaosTvis. es Cveni pirveli samitia,<br />

magram pirveli taimis miwuruls<br />

stumarTa mcvelma levan sabaZem<br />

angariSi gaqviTa.<br />

`samtredias~ gamarjvebis golis<br />

gasatanad sakmarisze meti dro<br />

hqonda. imerelTa wisqvilze imanac<br />

daasxa wyali, rom `Suquras~ brazilieli<br />

jefersoni gauZeves, magram<br />

samtredielma qomagebma nanatri<br />

goli verafriT ixiles.<br />

`dinamo Tbilisma~, sadac zamTris<br />

periodSi bevri cvlileba moxda<br />

(mTavari mwvrTnelis Secvlis<br />

CaTvliT), foTis `kolxeTs~ gamarjvebis<br />

goli pirvel taimSi gautana.<br />

baCana arabulis mier gatanil<br />

burTs zRvispirelebma verafriT<br />

upasuxes. vnaxoT, gaagrZelebs Tu<br />

ara warmatebul svlas kaxa kaWaravas<br />

mier gawvrTnili `dinamo~, `kolxeTisTvis~<br />

ki es marcxi tragedia<br />

ar unda iyos, foTelebma uSualo<br />

konkurentebTan WidilSi unda<br />

daamtkicon, rom uZlieresTa<br />

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Soris TamaSis Rirsni arian.<br />

yvelaze sanaxaobrivi Sexvedra<br />

`mixeil mesxis~ saTadarigo moedanze<br />

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Temur Sonias gols `lokomotivis~<br />

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dubliT upasuxa. giorgi devdarianis<br />

mier gawvrTnilma axalgazrdulma<br />

gundma mniSvnelovani sami<br />

qula miiTvala, baTumelTaTvis ki<br />

es marcxi, wesiT, mtkivneuli unda<br />

iyos – `dinamo~, romelic ganvlil<br />

satransfero periodSi legionerebiT<br />

gaZlierda da zafxulSi evropis<br />

ligaze mosinjavs Zalebs, aSkarad<br />

ar apirebs erovnuli ligis erT<br />

rigiT gundad yofnas.<br />

turis erTaderTi ugolo mat-<br />

Ci zestafonSi gaimarTa. `Cixuram~<br />

swored iq umaspinZla goris `dilas~.<br />

mTlianobaSi, Sexvedra urigo<br />

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uefas samiti<br />

TbilisSi<br />

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Tis federaciis generalurma mdivanma, daviT mujir-<br />

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`mixeil mesxis~ mTavar arenazec,<br />

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giorgi koxreiZem, romelic<br />

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waRebis saSualeba ar misca.<br />

meore turi 11 marts<br />

gaimarTeba da Semdeg<br />

matCebs vixilavT:<br />

lokomotivi – dinamo Tb.<br />

dila – dinamo Tb.<br />

samtredia – Cixura<br />

kolxeTi – saburTalo<br />

Suqura – torpedo<br />

turis centraluri Sexvedra,<br />

ra Tqma unda, `samtredia~-`Cixuraa~.<br />

samtrediaSi erTmaneTis pirispir<br />

saqarTvelos Cempioni da<br />

vice-Cempioni wardgebian.<br />

bolos, isic unda aRvniSnoT,<br />

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fexburTi. saqarTvelos<br />

Cempionati. erovnuli liga.<br />

I turi<br />

samtredia-Suqura 1:1<br />

golebi: 1:0 raJamaSvili (19), 1:1<br />

sabaZe (42)<br />

dinamo Tb. – kolxeTi 1:0<br />

goli: 1:0 arabuli (26)<br />

lokomotivi – dinamo Tb. 2:1<br />

golebi: 0:1 T. Sonia (10), 1:1 sixaruliZe<br />

(32), 2:1 sixaruliZe (43)<br />

Cixura – dila 0:0<br />

saburTalo – torpedo 1:0<br />

goli: 1:0 koxreiZe (90)<br />

faCulias<br />

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21-24 0<br />

22-24 0<br />

23-24 0<br />

22-23 0<br />

11-13 0<br />

16-20 0<br />

gori<br />

14-16 0<br />

13-17 0<br />

14-16 0<br />

15-17 0<br />

16-18 0<br />

11-12 0<br />

12-14 0<br />

Telavi<br />

13-16 0<br />

11-14 0<br />

14-16 0<br />

15-18 0<br />

17-20 0<br />

13-16 0<br />

14-16 0<br />

foTi<br />

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14-15 0<br />

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yvela ufleba daculia;<br />

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masalebis nebismieri saxiT<br />

gamoyeneba da gavrceleba<br />

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akrZalulia!<br />

gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul<br />

masalebs aqvT sareklamo<br />

xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia<br />

SeiZleba ar daemTxves<br />

redaqciis Sexedulebas.<br />

mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12)<br />

redaqtori nana TvalabeiSvili (592 73 73 90)<br />

batiaSvili Tamar 593 61 74 15<br />

stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />

rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />

redaqciis misamarTi:<br />

mamulaSvili gela 599 45 50 26<br />

Tbilisi, gudauris N3,<br />

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pirveli sarTuli, bina 4;<br />

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tel.: 294 69 77;<br />

mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55<br />

iuridiuli samsaxuri:<br />

tabaRua nino 568 82 58 35<br />

arCil CubiniZe;<br />

oTiaSvili Tamar 593 68 47 98<br />

sareklamo ganyofileba,<br />

janezaSvili levan 593 18 77 10<br />

gavrcelebis samsaxuri<br />

vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89<br />

Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10<br />

xujaZe zviad (aSS)<br />

deviZe daviT<br />

gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~<br />

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