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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
sosos<br />
colis<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N8 8 (185) 7.03<br />
03.201<br />
.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />
naTesavebi<br />
gv.<br />
gv. 11<br />
giorgi yaramanaSvili: rusTavi 2-is<br />
gayidva SeuZlebelia!!!<br />
gv. 2<br />
arasaparlamento<br />
partiebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi<br />
`rusTavi 2~-is<br />
saqmes afaseben!<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 gv. 4<br />
w.<br />
ras niSnavs<br />
strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba?!<br />
diplomatiis<br />
dauwereli kanoni:<br />
sanam SeiZleba<br />
miniSnebebiT laparaki,<br />
manamde aqcentebi ar<br />
aris mkveTri!<br />
gv. 6 gv. 8<br />
1
eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
marTalia, „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
karga xnis ganmavlobaSi gvimtkicebda, rom „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
saqme or kerZo subieqts Soris sasamarTlo dava iyo, magram,<br />
yvelasTvis moulodnelad, strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />
sasamarTloSi mxared swored saxelmwifo gamodis.<br />
8 marts strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is saCivris<br />
ganxilvas iwyebs, manamde ki,<br />
sruliad uprecedento aqtiT,<br />
uzanaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba SeaCera.<br />
meore dRes ki aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />
departamentis angariSSi,<br />
bolo wlebis ganmavlobaSi pirvelad,<br />
yofili premier-ministris,<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis persona<br />
da sasamarTlo sistemaze misi<br />
gavlenebi axsenes. es imas niSnavs,<br />
rom eqspremierma dasavle-<br />
Tis darwmuneba ver SeZlo, rom<br />
is araformalurad marTavs saxelmwifo<br />
institutebs da am angariSis<br />
mere ivaniSvilis xseneba<br />
kidev ufro aqtualuri gaxdeba.<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg<br />
brZola gadamwyvet fazaSi Sedis.<br />
saqarTveloSi imyofeba kompaniis<br />
damfuZnebeli, giorgi<br />
yaramanaSvili.<br />
ra SesTavaza levan da gior-<br />
gi yaramanaSvilebs 2012 wels<br />
biZina ivaniSvilma? apirebs Tu<br />
ara „rusTavi 2"-is gayidvas da<br />
ereva Tu ara televiziis saqmi-<br />
anobaSi mixeil saakaSvili?<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
giorgi<br />
yaramanaSvili:<br />
`rusTavi 2-is<br />
gayidva<br />
SeuZlebelia!~<br />
„qronika+”-is eqskluzi-<br />
uri interviu giorgi yaraman<br />
anaSvilTan:<br />
aSvilTan:<br />
_ batono giorgi<br />
orgi, , gmadlobT,<br />
rom interviuze damTanxmdiT.<br />
iSviaTad CanxarT mediaSi, in-<br />
terviuebi ar giyvarT?<br />
_ me var biznesmeni, ar var<br />
sajaro piri, ar var politikosi,<br />
iSviaTad vCndebi kamerebTan<br />
da mirCevnia, Cemi saqme ase vake-<br />
To, samomavlodac ase vapireb...<br />
_ rodis gadawyviteT „ru-<br />
sTavi 2"-is Sesyidva da icodiT<br />
Tu ara, rom qibar xalvaSs raime<br />
pretenziebi hqonda televi-<br />
ziasTan mimarTebiT?<br />
_ kompaniis yidvis survili<br />
Cems Zmas gauCnda. pirvel rigSi,<br />
imitom, rom manamdec iyo telesakomunikacio<br />
biznesSi, ramdenime<br />
kompaniaSi wilebs flobda<br />
biZina ivaniSvili<br />
da miiCnevda, rom aseTi msxvili<br />
aqtivi, rogoric aris „rusTavi<br />
2", avtomaturad moaxdenda misi<br />
kapitalizaciis zrdas.<br />
me es survili ki ara, erTgvari,<br />
aucileblobis gancda gamiCnda<br />
2012 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg, roca cxadi<br />
gaxda, rom ivaniSvilis xelisufleba<br />
male daiwyebda Setevas<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ze. „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
wilis SeZena, erTis mxriv, riskebis<br />
gayofa iyo, meorec _ kompaniis<br />
gadarCenis mcdeloba, radgan<br />
Cemi Zma, levani, fizikurad<br />
ver moaxerxebda kompaniis mar-<br />
Tvas (mas Zalian bevri sxva biznesinteresi<br />
hqonda da „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is misaxedad piradi dro<br />
da resursi naklebad rCeboda).<br />
swored amitom, SevTanxmdiT,<br />
rom am aqtivs me vmarTavdi. ase<br />
gavxdi am kompaniis mflobeli.<br />
cxadia, im momentisTvis samarTlebrivi<br />
sakiTxebi da riskebi<br />
bevrjer iyo Semowmebuli da<br />
gadamowmebuli. araviTari dava<br />
am kompaniis wilebTan da mflobelobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT ar<br />
arsebobda, maT Soris, qibar<br />
xalvaSis mxridan. mas rom raime<br />
pretenzia hqonoda, aucileblad<br />
mecodineboda, Tundac imitom,<br />
rom im periodSi masTan<br />
megobruli urTierToba makav-<br />
Sirebda. nebismier momentSi See-<br />
Zlo eTqva, _ giorgi, Cemia (an<br />
vdaob) da gaiTvaliswine, _ rac<br />
ar gaukeTebia martivi mizezis<br />
gamo: is araa am sarCelis realuri<br />
avtori da am sarCelis<br />
ukan xelisufleba dgas, rac yvela<br />
keTilsindisieri adamianisTvis<br />
isedac cxadia.<br />
_ davazustoT: roca Tqven<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli gax-<br />
diT, qibar xalvaSis mxridan raime<br />
tipis komunikacia ar yofi-<br />
la?<br />
_ ara, ar yofila, man zustad<br />
icoda, rom nebismier dros See-<br />
Zlo CemTan dakavSireba. Cven komunikacia<br />
maSin gvqonda, rodesac<br />
is „rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli<br />
iyo, mas Semdegac, rodesac<br />
is aRar iyo „rusTavi 2"-is mflobeli.<br />
mas araviTari pretenzia<br />
arasdros ar gamouTqvams. metic,<br />
Cemma megobarma axla Semaxsena:<br />
roca Cven erTad kievSi SevxvdiT<br />
qibars da mis TanamSromels,<br />
maSin piriqiT, me vkiTxe<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ze. araTu araviTari<br />
pretenzia ar hqonda, televizias<br />
uyurebda, rogorc moSorebul<br />
tvirTs!<br />
_ romeli weli iyo, roca<br />
qibar xalvaSs kievSi SexvdiT?<br />
_ zustad maxsovs, es Sexvedra<br />
Sedga irakli oqruaSvilis<br />
opoziciaSi wasvlamde, 2007<br />
wlis aqciebamde. kargad maxsovs,<br />
qibar xalvaSs vkiTxe, _ ras apirebs<br />
irakli-meTqi? da miTxra,<br />
_ partias akeTebso...<br />
_ batono giorgi, raki irak-<br />
li oqruaSvili axseneT, is iyo<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is araformaluri<br />
mmarTveli. faqtia, televizie-<br />
bis mflobelebi imis mixedviT<br />
icvlebodnen, vis ra gavlena<br />
hqonda im momentisTvis prezi-<br />
dent saakaSvilis karze.<br />
_ amaze marTla gulwrfelad<br />
ver gipasuxebT, imitom, rom ar<br />
vakvirdebodi, ar vcxovrobdi<br />
saqarTveloSi da Zalian iSviaTad<br />
Camovdiodi, sul ramdenime<br />
dRiT da, ZiriTadad, zafxulSi,<br />
baTumSi, ojaxTan erTad dasasveneblad.<br />
saerTod ar vadevnebdi<br />
Tvalyurs mflobelebis sakiTxs.<br />
ukana ricxviT rom gadavxedoT<br />
da amis analizi daviwyoT,<br />
SeiZleba, garkveuli kanonzomiereba<br />
vipovoT kidec, magram<br />
amas axla aranairi mniSvneloba<br />
aRar aqvs. me TviTon ganaTlebiT<br />
iuristi var, mainteresebda<br />
ara politikuri mxare, aramed<br />
is, rom garigeba kanonieri<br />
yofiliyo. Cems Zmas kompaniis<br />
ekonomikuri analizic hqonda<br />
gakeTebuli da amis mere, TavisTavad,<br />
iuridiulad sworad,<br />
yovelgvari problemis gareSe<br />
SeviZineT es wili.<br />
_ mixeil saakaSvils didi<br />
xania, icnobT?<br />
_ ki, miSa Cemi axlo megobaria...<br />
_ gulwrfelad mipasuxeT:<br />
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mas Semdeg, rac televiziis<br />
mflobeli gaxdiT, mixeil saakaSvili<br />
ereoda Tu ara telekompaniis<br />
saredaqcio politikaSi<br />
da hqonda Tu ara mcdelobebi,<br />
rom raime tipis gavlena<br />
moexdina, Tundac, televizi-<br />
is politikur mimarTulebaze?<br />
_ rom vTqva, rom televiziaze<br />
ar vlaparakobdiT, es ar iqneboda<br />
marTali, magram rom vTqva,<br />
rom gavlena hqonda, esec ar<br />
iqneboda swori. mesmis, rom bevri<br />
ar daijerebs, magram vinc me<br />
kargad micnobs, vinc icis Cemi<br />
da miSas urTierToba, saerTod<br />
ar gauWirdeba amis dajereba.<br />
Cveni urTierToba yovelTvis<br />
efuZneboda megobrobas da kidev<br />
ufro metad, _ Tanamoazreobas.<br />
am WrilSi iyo Cveni nebismieri<br />
saubaric, maT Soris, televiziaze.<br />
Cems pirovnebas da<br />
Cvens megobrul urTierTobasac<br />
rom Tavi gavaneboT, is kompaniaze<br />
gavlenas ver iqoniebda,<br />
Tundac imitom, rom es televizia<br />
ar finansdeboda aravis mier<br />
mas Semdeg, rac me „rusTavi 2"-<br />
is mflobeli gavxdi. kompanias,<br />
garda imisa, rom yvelaze gavleniani<br />
televizia iyo, yovelTvis<br />
vuyurebdi, rogorc bizness. biznesis<br />
garantia iyo misi damoukidebloba,<br />
mkafio interesi<br />
mqonda, rom es telekompania<br />
yofiliyo damoukidebeli, maSin<br />
is iqneboda avtomaturad kritikuli,<br />
avtomaturad reitinguli<br />
da avtomaturad momgebiani,<br />
rasac me mivaRwie kidec.<br />
_ anu imas meubnebiT, rom<br />
„rusTavi 2" momgebiani teleko-<br />
mpaniaa da Savi fulis konver-<br />
tebiT darigeba, rogorc sxva<br />
dros iyo, Tqven aRar dagWirve-<br />
biaT?<br />
_ aranairi Savi fuli da konvertebi.<br />
es xom Zalian advili<br />
gadasamowmebelia. madloba RmerTs,<br />
saqarTveloSi sagadasaxado<br />
sistema im donemde mivida,<br />
rodesac yvelaferi kontroldeba<br />
da yvelaferi gaxsnilia.<br />
faqtobrivad, nebismier dainteresebul<br />
pirs, visac Sesabamisi<br />
codna aqvs, amis gadamowmeba<br />
Zalian martivad SeuZlia, imitom,<br />
rom es ar aris raRac daxuruli<br />
informacia.<br />
_ batono giorgi, roca 2012<br />
wels xelisufleba Seicvala da<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” movida saTaveSi,<br />
ar gqoniaT SemoTavazeba,<br />
rom telekompania dageT-<br />
moT, an gageyidaT?<br />
_ ki, iyo amaze saubari, Cemma<br />
Zmam pirvel interviuSi ilaparaka<br />
kidec, rom iyo aseTi SemoTavazeba,<br />
rom es televizia sab-<br />
WosTvis gveCuqebina, razec levanma,<br />
ra Tqma unda, uari uTxra.<br />
ratom unda vaCuqoT viRacas<br />
raRaca, CvenTvis es sruliad<br />
gaurkvevelia...<br />
_ Tu saidumlo ar aris, vis-<br />
gan iyo SemoTavazeba?<br />
_ biZina ivaniSvilis uaxloesi<br />
garemocvidan.<br />
_ vin Sedioda im sabWoSi,<br />
romlisTvisac televiziis Cu-<br />
qebas ivaniSvili iTxovda?<br />
_ sabWos Semadgenloba ar<br />
vici... es rom raRac patara televizia<br />
yofiliyo, aravin arafers<br />
SemogvTavazebda, magram<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is SemTxvevaSi xelisuflebas<br />
konkretuli interesi<br />
hqonda, rom televizia maT<br />
mier kontrolirebadi yofiliyo,<br />
es pirveli dRidanve cxadi<br />
iyo, Canda Tanamdebobis pirebis<br />
sajaro gamosvlebSic, agreTve<br />
minda, yvelas Sevaxseno parlamentSi<br />
specialurad Seqmnili<br />
komisia, romelsac Tina xidaSeli<br />
xelmZRvanelobda da amitomac<br />
iyo es SemoTavazeba. am<br />
struqturas xumrobiT Cven<br />
„brZenTa sabWo” SevarqviT.<br />
_ xidaSeli gagaxsendaT da<br />
yofilma Tavdacvis ministrma<br />
am dReebSic gaakeTa gancxadeba,<br />
rom es aris or kerZo sub-<br />
ieqts Soris dava da is ar<br />
apirebs, yaramanaSvilebis qon-<br />
ebaze idardos...<br />
_ gulaxdilad getyviT, zogadad,<br />
Tina xidaSelis principebze<br />
ar var maRali warmodgenis,<br />
magram inteleqtze pretenziis<br />
mqone adamiani, Cemi azriT, ar<br />
unda laparakobdes, rom es aris<br />
or subieqts Soris dava, ker-<br />
Zod, Cemsa da qibars Soris dava,<br />
imitom, rom me da qibars aravi-<br />
Tari molaparakeba ar gvqonia,<br />
Cven ar gvqonia araviTari SeTanxmeba,<br />
Cven aranair dokumentze<br />
xeli ar mogviweria, Cven am<br />
Temaze ar gvilaparakia da sadavo<br />
Tema Cven Soris ar arsebobs.<br />
Cemsa da qibars Soris aTi mflobeli<br />
iyo, Tu ar meSleba...<br />
inteleqtis mqone adamiani ar<br />
unda laparakobdes, rom es Sei-<br />
Zleba iyos or subieqts Soris<br />
dava, imitom, rom am or subieqts<br />
araferi saerTo erTmaneT-<br />
Tan ar hqonia da davis saganic<br />
maTi molaparakeba unda yofil-<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
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Tina xidaSeli<br />
iyo, raRac SeTanxmeba mainc.<br />
qibar xalvaSs SeeZlo edava imas-<br />
Tan, visac mihyida. masTan, ratomRac,<br />
pretenzia ar aqvs da<br />
pirdapir CemTan daobs, romel<br />
logikas eqvemdebareba?<br />
_ mas Semdeg, rac „brZenTa<br />
sabWos” „rusTavi 2"-is Cuqeba-<br />
ze uari uTxariT, daiwyo Tu<br />
ara finansuri wnexi, Tu xe-<br />
lisufleba, ubralod, gayuCda<br />
da daeloda, rodis eqneboda<br />
saSualeba, rom qibaris meSveo-<br />
biT sasamarTlo dava daewyo?<br />
_ ver vityvi, rom gayuCda,<br />
magram imasac gulaxdilad geubnebiT,<br />
rom Zalian seriozuli<br />
aqtivoba maTi mxridan ar yofila.<br />
axla, rogorc Cans, emzadebodnen.<br />
kuluarulad ramdenjerme<br />
gamigia qibaris saxeli,<br />
magram verafriT davijerebdi,<br />
rom qibari amas daTanxmdeboda.<br />
saerTod, Tu am televiziis warsulTan<br />
dakavSirebiT raRac dava<br />
SeiZleboda, albaT, qibari<br />
iyo yvelaze cudi da warumatebeli<br />
arCevani. ratomRac, am xelisuflebam<br />
zustad es adamiani<br />
airCia.<br />
_ batono giorgi, iyo Tu ara<br />
amis winapiroba is, rom qibar<br />
xalvaSis da Seiyvanes „qarTu-<br />
li ocnebis” saparlamento sia-<br />
Si, kavSirs xedavT?<br />
_ amaze me verafers vityvi.<br />
SeiZleba, iyo, SeiZleba _ ara...<br />
_ elodiT Tu ara uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos aseT gadawyvet-<br />
ilebas, rom bolo instanciis<br />
sasamarTlo<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
„rusTavi 2"-s samarTliani sasa-<br />
marTlos Sanss mouspobda?<br />
qibar xalvaSi<br />
_ ar velodi...<br />
_ strasburgis sasamarTlom<br />
marTlac uprecedento gadaw-<br />
yvetileba miiRo, imitom, rom<br />
mediasTan dakavSirebiT aseTi<br />
muxli jer ar gamouyenebia da<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadaw-<br />
yvetilebis moqmedeba SeaCera.<br />
elodebiT imas, rom stras-<br />
burgSi mainc SeZlebT Tqveni<br />
simarTlis damtkicebas da mo-<br />
ugebT xelisuflebas am brZo-<br />
las, romelsac damoukidebeli<br />
mediisTvis brZola hqvia?..<br />
_ absoluturad darwmunebuli<br />
var...<br />
_ aucileblad unda gkiTx-<br />
oT: mas Semdeg, rac saqarTve-<br />
loSi CamoxvediT da saqarTv-<br />
eloSi Camosvlamdec, periodu-<br />
lad vrceldeboda xmebi, rom<br />
Tqven ukve kulisebSi SeuTanxm-<br />
diT biZina ivaniSvils da te-<br />
levizias TmobT. axla meubnebiT,<br />
rom strasburgSi bolom-<br />
de brZolas apirebT.<br />
_ ar geTanxmebiT, axla ar<br />
geubnebiT, es naTqvami maqvs yvela<br />
interviuSi... msgavsi araferi<br />
yofila da arasdros ganmixilavs.<br />
es iqneboda rogorc „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is koleqtivis, aseve mTlianad<br />
qarTuli sazogadoebis<br />
Ralati, rasac me da Cemi Zma<br />
arasdros vikadrebT!<br />
_ me pirvelad vwer TqvenTan<br />
intervius, amitom, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
isev unda gkiTxoT: biznes-<br />
meni biZina ivaniSvili biznesmen<br />
giorgi yaramanaSvils kulisebSi<br />
garigebas ar gTavazobdaT?<br />
_ amazec sajarod maqvs Cemi<br />
pozicia dafiqsirebuli... marTalia,<br />
me var biznesmeni, „rusTavi<br />
2"-s vuyurebdi, rogorc bizness,<br />
metic, pretenzia maqvs imaze,<br />
rom me vaqcie saqarTveloSi<br />
televizia momgebian biznesad<br />
da marTlac damoukideblad, am<br />
SemTxvevaSi es erTi meoris gareSe<br />
ar arsebobs, Zalian mibmulia.<br />
raRac mokle periodis mere<br />
gadavwyvite am biznesis gayidva.<br />
es sajarodac miTqvams, es maSin<br />
arxis menejmentmac icoda, arasdros<br />
damimalavs. amas maSin gamoxmaureba<br />
ar mohyolia da mas<br />
mere araviTari SemoTavazeba ar<br />
yofila, Tumca gulaxdilad getyviT,<br />
bolo peroidSi, brZola<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is winaaRmdeg akrZaluli<br />
xerxebiT mimdinareobda.<br />
am zewolebis fonze kompaniis<br />
gayidva sruliad warmoudgenlad<br />
mimaCnda. axlac mimaCnia,<br />
rom „rusTavi 2"-is gayidva Seu-<br />
Zlebelia, imitom, rom aq ukve<br />
sxva valdebulebebia, sxva valdebulebebia<br />
qveynis winaSe, sxva<br />
valdebulebebia Cveni Tavdadebuli<br />
Jurnalistebis winaSe,<br />
romelTa yoveldRiuri saqmianoba<br />
gmirobis tolfasia. me<br />
vagrZeleb brZolas da es brZola<br />
bolomdea misayvani.<br />
mflobelebi varT damoukidebeli<br />
arxis, saredaqcio politikis<br />
damoukidebloba fundamentia,<br />
gayidviT es kompania ar iyideba!!!<br />
Cemi mxridan es sruliad<br />
calsaxa da mkafio gancxadebaa.<br />
_ batono giorgi, gulaxdi-<br />
lad miTxariT, CareulxarT Tu<br />
ara saredaqcio politikaSi,<br />
giTqvamT Tu ara Jurnalisteb-<br />
isTvis an menejmentisTvis, rom<br />
raime tipis siuJeti unda<br />
moamzadon, an momzadebuli si-<br />
uJeti unda amoiRon?<br />
_ jer erTi, me imdenad apolitikuri<br />
adamiani var, ramdenic<br />
saqarTveloSi SeiZleba cota<br />
iyos. amas xels uwyobs isic,<br />
rom, faqtobrivad, ar vcxovrob<br />
saqarTveloSi da ar vicnobdi<br />
qarTuli politikis samzareulos.<br />
2012 wlis arCevnebamde<br />
oTxi Tve saerTod ar CamirTavs<br />
televizori. erTi sityviT, arc<br />
Carevis survili gamCenia odesme<br />
da, romc gamCenoda, amas verasdros<br />
gavakeTebdi am subieqturi<br />
distanciisa da bevri ramis<br />
arcodnis gamo...<br />
_ strasburgSi dava, albaT,<br />
xangrZlivi iqneba, kompaniis<br />
qonebas yadaRa adevs. ramdenad<br />
realuria „rusTavi 2"-is fin-<br />
ansuri gakotreba?<br />
_ televizia bolo ori welia,<br />
saSineli presis qveS imyofeba,<br />
rac ar SeiZleboda ar asaxuliyo<br />
mis finansur mdgomareobazec,<br />
ra Tqma unda... yvela xedavs, rom<br />
xelisufleba principulad ar<br />
xsnis yadaRas da televizias<br />
normaluri funqcionirebis sa-<br />
Sualebas ar aZlevs, Tundac finansurad.<br />
ra Tqma unda, mas axr-<br />
Cobs da gudavs. swored amitom<br />
Camovedi saqarTveloSi, rom<br />
rTul da gadamwyvet momentSi<br />
televiziis koleqtivis, Jurnalistebis<br />
gverdiT viyo, kompania<br />
ar gakotrdes da kompaniis finansuri<br />
marTva Cems Tavze aviRo,<br />
ramdenadac es SesaZlebeli iqneba...<br />
saredaqcio politikaSi Carevas<br />
ar vapireb, yvela Jurnalisti<br />
Tavis saqmianobaSi damoukidebeli<br />
iyo da iqneba.<br />
3
Tamar batiaSvili<br />
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strasburgis sasamarTlom, sak-<br />
uTari arsebobis istoriaSi pirvelad, „rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze<br />
saqmis aRsruleba uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis Sem-<br />
deg SeaCera. msgavsi ram strasburgis sasamarTlos arasdros<br />
gaukeTebia, garda im saqmeebisa, romelic exeba adamianebis<br />
wamebas, an safrTxes uqmnis adamianebis sicocxles, an exeba<br />
maT eqstradicias.<br />
„arasdros, arc erT viTarebaSi,<br />
arc sakuTrebis uflebas-<br />
Tan mimarTebiT, arc gamoxatvis<br />
uflebasTan mimarTebiT, strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos msgavsi<br />
gadawyvetileba ar miuRia, es<br />
pirveli, istoriuli SemTxvevaa<br />
da minda giTxraT, rom „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is saqmem, erTi mxriv,<br />
saqarTvelos samarcxvino sasamarTlo<br />
xelisuflebam da samarcxvino<br />
mTavrobam safuZveli<br />
daudes strasburgis adamianis<br />
uflebaTa sasamarTlos axal<br />
praqtikas, rasac yvelas gilocavT.<br />
pirvel rigSi, saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobas movuwodeb,<br />
romelic guSindeli gadawyvetilebis<br />
Semdeg umZimes dReSia<br />
Cavardnili, romelmac damarxa<br />
marTlmsajulebis sistema, romelmac<br />
damarxa saqarTveloSi<br />
adamianis uflebebi, kerZod,<br />
gamoxatvis Tavisuflebebis<br />
nawilSi, demokratia damarcxda,<br />
daibrunos saxe da movlenebs<br />
Tavisuflad ganviTarebis<br />
SesaZlebloba misces, pirvel<br />
rigSi, qveynis SigniT arsebuli<br />
instrumentebis gamoyenebiT. es<br />
aris sakonstitucio sasamarTlo,<br />
romelSic Zalian didi xania,<br />
ukve Sesulia, rogorc um-<br />
Tavres instanciaSi „rusTavi<br />
2"-isa da Sps saqarTvelos sar-<br />
Celebi da sakonstitucio sasamarTlosgan<br />
viTxovT, praqtikulad,<br />
ukve miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sesaxeb axali gadawyvetilebis<br />
gamotanas. viciT,<br />
rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebam<br />
sruliad miiRo monawileoba<br />
imaSi, rom sakonstitucio<br />
sasamarTlos wina Semadgenlobas<br />
gadawyvetileba ver gamoetana,<br />
erTi Ramis ganmavlobaSi<br />
Seecvala yvelaferi...”, _ ganacxada<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is generalurma<br />
direqtorma, nika gvaramiam.<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebisa da zogadad,<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is irgvliv ganvi-<br />
Tarebuli movlenebis Sesaxeb<br />
„qronika+” arasaparlamento partiebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs esaubra.<br />
Tamar kekenaZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
Tamar kekenaZe _ „Tavisufa-<br />
li demokratebi”:<br />
_ „rusTavi 2"-is mimarT gamotanili<br />
gadawyvetileba biZina<br />
ivaniSvilisa da „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
mxridan gadadgmuli mizanmimarTuli<br />
nabijia, rac realurad<br />
Zalin did zians ayenebs<br />
qveynis natosa da evrokav-<br />
SirSi integraciis process.<br />
droc Zalian cinikurad iyo<br />
SerCeuli, es moxda meore dRes,<br />
rac vizaliberalizacias moewera<br />
xeli da erTi dRiT adre,<br />
sanam saqarTveloSi natos<br />
samxedro komiteti Camovidoda.<br />
biZina ivaniSvilsa da „qarTul<br />
ocnebas” egona, rom am TemebiT<br />
gadafaravdnen „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
sakiTxs da imis iluzias Seqmnidnen,<br />
rom saqarTveloSi yvelaferi<br />
kargad aris demokratiuli<br />
ganviTarebis kuTxiT da<br />
saerTaSoriso sazogadoebasac<br />
am iluzias Seuqmnidnen. ra Tqma<br />
unda, is myisieri reaqcia, rac<br />
am yvelafers Cveni saerTaSoriso<br />
partniorebisgan mohyva,<br />
swori nabiji iyo da aman kidev<br />
erTxel daanaxa TiToeul Cvengans,<br />
rom es ar aris or kerZo<br />
subieqts Soris dava da es iyo<br />
xelisuflebis mxridan gadadgmuli<br />
nabiji, rac, realurad,<br />
biZina ivaniSvilsa da „qarTul<br />
ocnebas” emsaxureba. mas ar<br />
surs, rom qveyanaSi kritikuli<br />
media arsebobdes da alternatiuli<br />
mosazreba ismodes. rac<br />
mTavaria, am yvelaferma kidev<br />
erTxel gvaCvena, rom biZina ivaniSvili<br />
sasamarTlo sistemis<br />
yvela dones mTlianad akontrolebs.<br />
ra Tqma unda, strasburgis<br />
gadawyvetileba erTaderTi<br />
gamosavali iyo am etapisTvis,<br />
_ Cveni evropeli megobrebi,<br />
samwuxarod, ufro mets<br />
zrunaven Cveni qveynis ganviTarebaze<br />
da Cvens evroatlantikur<br />
arCevanze, vidre saqarTvelos<br />
mTavroba. es SesaZlebloba<br />
kidev erTxel mogvcems imis<br />
saSualebas, rom ufro meti<br />
komunikacia iyos Cvens saerTa-<br />
Soriso partniorebTan. imedi<br />
maqvs da darwmunebuli var, rom<br />
8 marts strasburgis sasamarT-<br />
arasaparlamento<br />
partiebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi<br />
`rusTavi 2~-is<br />
saqmes afaseben!<br />
dava or kerZo subieqts Soris,<br />
Tu biZina ivaniSvils survili<br />
_ qveyanaSi alternatiuli<br />
azri ar ismodes?!<br />
lo SemaCerebel gadawyvetilebas<br />
gamoitans da sanam bolomde<br />
ar daasrulebs am sakiTxze<br />
muSaobas, manamde aRsrulebas<br />
SeaCerebs.<br />
soso SatberaSvili _ „me-<br />
marcxene aliansi”:<br />
_ rodesac sami instanciis<br />
sasamarTlo Sens warTmeul qonebaze<br />
uflebas moganiWebs, is,<br />
ra Tqma unda, legitimuria da<br />
kidev erTi ufleba aqvT sami<br />
dRis winandel mflobelebs _<br />
Zmeb yaramaniSvilebs, evropis<br />
sasamarTloSi gaasaCivron. samagierod,<br />
qarTveli xalxis<br />
Tavze politikuri ubedureba<br />
da tragedia datrialda.<br />
evropis sasamarTlom<br />
da, zogadad,<br />
evropam daamtkica,<br />
rom saqarTvelo<br />
ar aris damoukidebeli<br />
saxelmwifo.<br />
im<br />
dros, rodesac<br />
saqarTvelodan<br />
evropis<br />
sasamarTloSi<br />
wasuli uamravi saqme<br />
Tarozea Semodebuli da rigs<br />
elodeba, ramdenime saaTSi mosamarTle<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is araTu<br />
sarCels ixilavs, aramed absurdul<br />
gancxadebas akeTebs, rom<br />
soso SatberaSvili<br />
Tu es ar dakmayofildeba, Tbilisis<br />
quCebSi xalxi gamovardeba<br />
da TiTqos velurebi viyoT,<br />
milew-molewavs yvelafers. ramdenime<br />
saaTSi Cerdeba saqar-<br />
Tvelos umaRlesi organos _<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos didi<br />
palatis gadawyvetileba da<br />
xdeba imis demonstrireba, rom<br />
saqarTvelo aris ara damoukidebeli<br />
saxelmwifo, aramed<br />
mTlianad damokidebulia evropisa<br />
da amerikis Cinosnebze.<br />
es aris didi ubedureba da<br />
rac Seexeba Sedegs: amis Semdeg<br />
rusuli propaganda ga-<br />
Zlierdeba, prorusulad ganwyobili<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleoba<br />
gaZlierdeba<br />
da SesaZloa, saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis<br />
didma nawilma, Tu<br />
momavalSic ase gagrZelda,<br />
„evrazi-<br />
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ul kavSirSi” Sesvla moindomos,<br />
rogorc es Cvenma mezoblebma<br />
_ somxeTma da azerbaijanma<br />
gaakeTes.<br />
konstantine gamsaxurdia _<br />
„Tavisufleba”:<br />
_ erTi SexedviT, damoukidebeli<br />
sasamarTlos ukan, SeuiaraRebeli<br />
TvaliT, aSkarad igrZnoba<br />
xelisuflebis maRali<br />
rangis warmomadgenelTa moZraobebi.<br />
es ukve Zalian cud zegavlenas<br />
iqoniebs im gagebiT, rom<br />
axlaxan mocemuli vizaliberalizaciis<br />
Semdeg sakmao Crdils<br />
miayenebs Cvens urTierTobas.<br />
vgulisxmob imas, rom vizaliberalizacia<br />
namdvilad wingadadgmuli<br />
nabiji iyo, magram<br />
am sasamarTlo process rom<br />
amisTvis win gaeswro, marTla<br />
SesaZlebelia, CvenTvis vizaliberalizaciis<br />
mocema gaeWianurebina.<br />
rac Seexeba TviTon „rusTavi<br />
2"-is sakiTxs, erTi SexedviT,<br />
fasadurad, es marTlac<br />
komerciuli davaa, magram Tvi-<br />
Ton sasamarTlos qceva da saqmis<br />
mimaT damokidebuleba ar<br />
aris adekvaturi, ramdenadac<br />
TiTqos saerTod ar iTvaliswinebs<br />
im garemoebas, rom ma-<br />
Ralreitinguli saqmea, maRalreitingul<br />
televiziasTan gvaqvs<br />
saqme, rasac Zalian didi da<br />
maRali sazogadoebrivi mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs mayureblidan da<br />
mTeli sazogadoebidan gamomdinare.<br />
amitom amis aseT daxurul<br />
reJimSi ganxilva, sadac<br />
cxra mosamarTle erT poziciaze<br />
dgeba, aSkara eWvebs iwvevs,<br />
rom es yvelaferi ar aris<br />
is, rac erTi SexedviT Cans _<br />
Cveulebrivi rigiTi komerciuli<br />
dava, sadac erTi mflobeli<br />
edaveba meores. jer TviTon<br />
mflobelTa sakiTxic Zalian<br />
rTulia, radgan aq ar unda iyos<br />
laparaki mxolod qibar xalvaSze,<br />
aq aris igive erosi kiwmariSvilis<br />
ojaxi, romelic<br />
saqmeSi ar Cans, magram imas ar<br />
niSnavs, rom is ar aris, amitomac<br />
sakiTxis garkveva _ vin aris<br />
kanonieri mflobeli, savsebiT<br />
obieqturad rom mivudgeT, arc<br />
ise martivia. es yvelaferi bevrad<br />
damajerebeli iqneboda,<br />
Tuki mxareebs SesaZleblobas<br />
miscemdnen, monawileoba mieRoT<br />
mtkicebis standartSi.<br />
konstantine gamsaxurdia<br />
yvela sasamarTlos aqvs Tavisi<br />
SejibrebiToba da amis gareSe<br />
Catardes aseTi mniSvnelovani<br />
procesi, ar SeiZleba. praqtikulad,<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is mxares<br />
amis saSualeba ar misces, sasamarTlo<br />
procesebidan gaaZeves,<br />
uzenaes sasamarTloSi xom mTlad<br />
gamoricxuli iyo raimes<br />
mtkiceba, radgan daxuruli<br />
procesi mimdinareobda. kidev<br />
vimeoreb, radgan procesi daxurul<br />
reJimSi Catarda, aravi-<br />
Tar mtkicebis standartze ar<br />
SeiZleba iyos laparaki.<br />
dimitri lorTqifaniZe _<br />
„demokratiuli moZraoba _ er-<br />
Tiani saqarTvelo”:<br />
_ Tvali gavusworoT simar-<br />
Tles, faqtia, rom evropis sab-<br />
Wos istoriaSi msgavsi tipis gadawyvetileba<br />
ar gamoutania<br />
strasburgis adamianis uflebebis<br />
dacvis sasamarTlos ganCinebis<br />
doneze saproceso iZulebiTi<br />
RonisZiebis saxiT, rodesac<br />
sakiTxi exeba saCivris uzrunvelyofis<br />
RonisZiebas. anu<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlos enaze<br />
rom vTqvaT, es aris droebiTi<br />
RonisZieba, gamoyenebuli<br />
sasamarTlos mier, sanam saqmes<br />
warmoebaSi miiRebs da daiqvemdebarebs.<br />
Tumca 8 martamde es<br />
ganCineba moqmedebs erTaderTi<br />
pirobiT, rom SemdgomSi ukve<br />
palatam imsjelos RonisZiebis<br />
gagrZelebis mizanSewonilobaze.<br />
es imas niSnavs, rom, rogorc<br />
Cans, „rusTavi 2" garkveuli politikuri<br />
ZalebisTvis, romlebic<br />
gansazRvraven aRmosavleT<br />
evropisa da evrokavSiris<br />
potenciuri wevrobis saxelmwifoebisTvis<br />
dRis wesrigs, „rusTavi<br />
2" gansakuTrebuli mniSvnelovis<br />
obieqti aRmoCnda,<br />
rogorc rupori politikurideologiuri<br />
trendisa. aqcentic<br />
swored keTdeba ara imdenad<br />
sakuTrebis uflebis xelyofaze,<br />
aramed ramdenadac gamoxatvis<br />
uflebis SezRudvis<br />
prevenciaze da miCneulia, rom<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is saredaqcio politikis<br />
SezRudviTa da gauqmebiT,<br />
gansakuTrebuli da gamousworebeli<br />
ziani adgeba qveyanaSi<br />
demokratiis ganviTarebas.<br />
me piradad, rogorc politikosi<br />
da „demokratiuli<br />
moZraobis” wevri,<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
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miviCnev, rom „rusTavi 2" aris<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” organuli<br />
nawili da calke „rusTavi<br />
2" romelime monaTesave<br />
politikuri Zalis gareSe ar<br />
ganixileba dasavleTisTvis,<br />
rogorc saintereso da saWiro<br />
obieqti. Cemi azriT, procesi<br />
namdvilad uprecedento da<br />
sainteresoa. vfiqrob, am procesSi<br />
politikurma partiebma<br />
im kuTxiT unda miviRoT monawileoba,<br />
rom kvaldakval mivdioT<br />
politikur nabijebs. es<br />
aris Zalian saintereso precedenti<br />
imisTvis, rom am standartiT<br />
strasburgis sasamar-<br />
Tlom, realurad, garkveuli<br />
riskic gaswia _ formalurad<br />
vambob, es exeba suverenuli<br />
saxelmwifos uzenaesi, saapelacio<br />
da pirveli instanciis<br />
sasamarTlos mier, jamSi, 13 mosamarTlis<br />
mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />
kiTxvis niSnis qveS<br />
dayenebas. miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlo ar<br />
aris meoTxe instancia, amave<br />
dros, suverenuli saxelmwifos<br />
Sida saqmeSi Carevis precedentia.<br />
es sakiTxi politikurad<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovani gasarCevia.<br />
vfiqrob, rom amaze araer-<br />
Ti dRisa da kviris ganmavlobaSi<br />
mogviwevs mrgval magidasTan<br />
diskusia.<br />
Tamaz meWiauri _ „erTiani<br />
saqarTvelosTvis”:<br />
_ zogadad, presis Tavisuflebis<br />
momxre var, Tumca saqarTveloSi<br />
absoluturad Tavisufali<br />
media, praqtikulad, ar<br />
arsebobs. amas, ZiriTadad, televiziebze<br />
vambob. es dadasturda,<br />
Tundac, arCevnebis dros,<br />
rodesac saxelisuflebo Tu<br />
opoziciuri televiziebi Cven-<br />
Tvis daxuruli iyo. magaliTad,<br />
im ZalebisTvis, romlebic skeptikurad<br />
uyurebdnen natosac,<br />
arc meore mxareze iWridnen<br />
venebs da erovnul niadagze<br />
iyvnen. rogorc Cans, erovnuli<br />
aravis ainteresebs. rac Seexeba<br />
konkretulad am davas, ra Tqma<br />
unda, momxre var, rom samar-<br />
Tliani gadawyvetileba miiRon,<br />
magram, Cemi azriT, absoluturad<br />
samarTliani arc erT Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi ar iqneba, radgan axali<br />
adamianebi Cndebian, romelTac<br />
am televiziaze pretenzia<br />
aqvT, erTma meores waarTva,<br />
dimitri lorTqifaniZe<br />
meorem _ mesames, mesamem _ meo-<br />
Txes da a. S. am dros yvelas aviwydeba,<br />
vin aris am televiziis<br />
mTavari mowile. mTavari mowile<br />
ki gaxlavT xalxi, sazogadoeba,<br />
romlis kuTvnili ramdenime<br />
aTeuli milioni, aranakleb<br />
40 milionis vali, „rusTavi<br />
2"-s Camoewera. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
qibar xalvaSi moigebs<br />
process Tu vinme sxva, yvelam<br />
unda icodes _ es televizia ar<br />
aris mxolod misi da xalxs yovelTvis<br />
SeiZleba hqondes pretenzia<br />
„rusTavi 2"-Tan, imaze,<br />
rom es televizia gaxdes damoukidebeli<br />
da sazogadoebis<br />
interesebis gamtarebeli. faqtobrivad,<br />
sazogadoebrivi televizia<br />
#2, SeiZleba, Sinaarsobrivad,<br />
pirvelic ki, ramdenadac<br />
am televiziaSi yvelaze<br />
meti xalxis fulia Cadebuli,<br />
vidre erTad aRebuli yvela<br />
modave mxarisa, romelsac dRes<br />
pretenzia aqvs mis patronobaze.<br />
Tu xalvaSi sabolood moigebs<br />
sasamarTlos, manac unda<br />
gaiTvaliswinos es da vurCev,<br />
sameurveo sabWos msgavsi organo<br />
Seqmnas, ar gaxdes erTpirovnuli<br />
mmarTveli, am organo-<br />
Si unda Sevidnen sazogadoebis<br />
mxridan ndobiT aRWurvili<br />
pirebi. Tu gadawyvetileba sxva<br />
mxaris sasargeblod gamova, televizias<br />
unda CamoSordnen mo-<br />
Zaladeebi, romelTac Tavisufal<br />
mediasTan aranairi kavSiri<br />
ar aqvT, maTi warsulidan<br />
gamomdinare. am SemTxvevaSic,<br />
televiziis marTvaSic Canacvleba<br />
unda moxdes aseve sazogadoebis<br />
mxridan ndobiT aRWurvili<br />
xalxiT. xolo rac Seexeba<br />
Jurnalistebs, miuxedavad maTi<br />
mxridan, rig SemTxvevebSi, tendenciurobisa,<br />
unda mieceT sa-<br />
Sualeba, rom maTi niWis realizacia<br />
moaxdinon Tavisufal<br />
televiziaSi, romelic Tavisufali<br />
iqneba yovelgvari partiuli<br />
Tu saxelisuflebo zewolisgan.<br />
ar minda, vinmem ise<br />
gaigos, rom, me piradad,<br />
„rusTavi 2" did diskomforts<br />
miqmnis,<br />
magram<br />
Tamaz meWiauri<br />
suleladac nu CamTvlian, rom<br />
Cemi fuliT Cem winaaRmdeg romelime<br />
partiuli interesebis<br />
gasatareblad imauwyeblos. uzarmazari<br />
xelfasi rom aqvs Tundac<br />
televiziis xelmZRvanels,<br />
Tu finansurad cudad hqondaT<br />
saqme da ise uWirdaT, rom biujetidan<br />
aTeulobiT milioni<br />
apaties, maSin ratom iniSnavdnen<br />
amxela xelfasebs?! arc axla<br />
gamovricxav, rom televizia<br />
finansur problemebs ganicdides,<br />
am dros mis xelmZRvanelobas<br />
amxela xelfasebi aqvs!<br />
ase rom, am saqmes calmxrivad<br />
ar vuyureb, aq xdeba spekulacia.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi arc xelisuflebis<br />
madlieri var, saxelisuflebo<br />
arxebzec dablokili<br />
viyavi arCevnebamde bolo ori<br />
Tvis ganmavlobaSi, amaze aravis<br />
protesti ar gamouxatavs. movuwodeb<br />
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis<br />
axal xelmZRvanelobas,<br />
gaiTvaliswinos da televizia<br />
gaxados im funqciebis matarebeli,<br />
risTvisac aris mowodebuli<br />
da daubrunos sazogadoebas.<br />
vis sakuTrebaSic ar<br />
unda gadavides „rusTavi 2",<br />
kidev vimeoreb, yvela Jurnalists<br />
unda mieces sakuTari ni-<br />
Wis gamovlenis saSualeba.<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ze Zalian bevri ni-<br />
Wieri adamiani muSaobs. darwmunebuli<br />
var, Tu am niWis gamoyenebis<br />
saSualeba Tavisufal<br />
televiziaSi miecemaT, mas gacilebiT<br />
did simaRleze aiyvanen.<br />
rac Sexeba sasamarTlos, zogadad,<br />
samarTlianobis momxre<br />
var da sasamarTlos pativi unda<br />
vceT maSinac ki, rodesac misi<br />
gadawyvetileba Cvens xedvas<br />
ar Seesabameba, magram, am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Seuracxyofili var<br />
imiT, rom viRac erTma mosamar-<br />
Tlem, vinc ar unda iyos is,<br />
strasburgSi, mapatieT am sityvisTvis,<br />
magram fexebze daikida<br />
mTeli qarTuli marTlmsajuleba<br />
ise, rom arc ki mousmenia<br />
meore mxarisTvis, aseTi<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRo da er-<br />
Tad aRebuli qarTuli marTlmsajulebis<br />
yvela instanciis ignorireba<br />
moaxdina.<br />
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rom 2017 wlis 2 marts uzenaesi<br />
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aRasruleba unda SeCerdes<br />
da xelisuflebam Tavi unda Seikavos<br />
kompaniis saredaqcio politikaSi<br />
nebismieri gziT Carevisgan.<br />
es zoma aris droebiTi, 2017<br />
wlis 8 martamde”.<br />
mxareTa yuradReba gamaxvilebulia<br />
im faqtze, rom Tu wevrma<br />
saxelmwifom ver Seasrula 39-e<br />
wesiT gaTvaliswinebuli zoma,<br />
rac, SesaZloa, moicavdes konvenciis<br />
34-e muxlis darRvevas, amasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, miTiTebulia<br />
didi palatis 2005 wlis 4 Tebervlis<br />
ganCinebis 128-e da 129-e<br />
punqtSi, saqmeSi „mamatkulovi da<br />
aksarovi TurqeTis winaaRmdeg”,<br />
prioriteti. sasamarTlom, amas<br />
garda, gadawyvita, prioriteti<br />
mianiWos momarTvas 41-e wesis Tanaxmad.<br />
am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />
iusticiis ministrma Tea wulukianma<br />
brifingi gamarTa da strasburgidan<br />
miRebuli korespondenciis<br />
Sesaxeb isaubra.<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ma am sami moTxovnis<br />
dasasabuTeblad sxvadasxva<br />
gancxadeba waradgina, maT Soris,<br />
sxvadasxva dros gakeTebuli<br />
strasburgis evrosabWos saparlamento<br />
asambleis, EPP-s wevrebis,<br />
guSindeli amerikis saelCos<br />
gancxadeba, SigniT, mediaSi gakeTebuli<br />
sxvadasxva gancxadeba<br />
da Tqva, rom Tu strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />
sarCelis uzrunvelyofis<br />
mis mier moTxovnil RonisZiebas<br />
ar gamoiyenebda, saqarTveloSi<br />
dasruldeboda demokratia<br />
da Tbilisis quCebSi atydeboda<br />
Zaladoba da qaosi, bevr sxva<br />
negatiur movlenasTan erTad,<br />
rac SesaZloa, strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
mier misTvis uaris Tqmas<br />
mohyoloda. strasburgis sasamarTloSi,<br />
rogorc maT mier<br />
gamogzavnili werilidan irkveva,<br />
morige mosamarTlem gadawyvetileba<br />
erTpirovnulad miiRo,<br />
romlis gvari, procedura aseTia,<br />
aris ucnobi da ise, rom Cven meore<br />
mxare, mopasuxe mxare, ar vyofilvarT<br />
saqmis kursSi Cayenebuli<br />
da Cvengan raime informacia<br />
gamoTxovili dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ar yofila. miiRo Semdegi gadawyvetileba,<br />
rom ara saqmis dasrulebamde,<br />
aramed ama wlis8 martamde<br />
miRebul iqnes sarCelis<br />
uzrunvelyofis RonisZieba da<br />
xelisuflebam ar ganaxorcielos<br />
aranairi RonisZieba nebismieri<br />
formiT, ra formiTac ar unda<br />
iyos es, romelic gamoiwvevda kompaniis<br />
saredaqcio politikis Secvlas.<br />
am saqmes mosamarTlem mianiWa<br />
prioriteti, rac imas niSnavs,<br />
rom saqarTvelodan gagzavnil<br />
sxva nebismier saCivarze adre,<br />
iqneba es cixidan gagzavnili,<br />
rigiTi moqalaqis mier gagzavnili,<br />
Tu sxva, am yvela saCivarze<br />
adre ganixilavs mocemul saqmes.<br />
Cven proceduris dacviT mivyvebiT<br />
am saqmes ise, rogorc iwarmoeba<br />
nebismieri sxva saqme strasburgis<br />
sasamarTloSi”, _ ganacx-<br />
ada wulukianma.<br />
ras iTvaliswinebs strasburgis<br />
adamianis uflebaTa sasamar-<br />
TloSi miRebuli gadawyvetileba?<br />
ra samarTlebrivi nabijebi<br />
unda gadaidgas Semdgom am saqmeze?<br />
„qronika+” iuristebs esaubra.<br />
`rodesac saqme exeba qonebrivi tipis davebs, faqtobrivad, es<br />
arasodes ar yofila gamoyenebuli evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
praqtikaSi. amitom SeCereba am SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovania,<br />
oRond aq erT faqtors unda mivaqcioT yuradReba: rom am<br />
gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba SeCerebulia sul ramdenime<br />
dRiT da 8 marts evropis sasamarTlo kvlav ganixilavs am<br />
sakiTxs da Tavis gadawyvetilebas miiRebs droebiTi<br />
RonisZiebis Taobaze, an sabolood danergavs am tipis<br />
precedents, rom aseTi tipis davebze SesaZlebelia droebiTi<br />
RonisZiebis gamoyeneba, an ar danergavs. rac Seexeba Semdgom<br />
nabijebs, sabolood, ra gadawyvetilebas gamoitans evropuli<br />
sasamarTlo, amas gaaCnia. Tu iseTi gadawyvetileba<br />
gamoitana, sadac miCneuli iqneba, rom darRveuli iyo<br />
sakuTrebis, an samarTliani sasamarTlos ufleba, aseT<br />
SemTxvevaSi, saxelmwifos Tavidan daevaleba am saqmis<br />
ganxilva im SeniSvnebis gaTvaliswinebiT, romelTac<br />
evropuli sasamarTlo miuTiTebs~<br />
ras niSnavs strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba?!<br />
soso baraTaSvili<br />
levan alafiSvili:<br />
_ gasagebad rom avxsnaT, ras<br />
niSnavs SeCerebis meqanizmi da saqarTvelos<br />
magaliTebi rom movixmoT,<br />
SegaxsenebT: sakonstitucio<br />
sasamarTlom gasul wels SeaCera<br />
erovnuli bankis Sesaxeb kanonSi<br />
Setanili cvlilebebi manamde,<br />
sanam TviTon sakonstitucio<br />
sasamarTlo arsebiTad ar ganixilavda<br />
sakiTxs. aq igivea, oRond<br />
ara sakonstitucio, aramed Cveulebriv<br />
sasamarTloSi rom ganvixiloT<br />
SemTxveva. magaliTad, sasamarTloSi<br />
mxareebi ki daoben, magram<br />
sanam sami instanciis sasamarTlo<br />
ganixilavs da gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiRebs, sasamarTlos mimarTaven<br />
da is iRebs gadawyvetilebas,<br />
magaliTad, yadaRis gamoyenebis<br />
Sesaxeb, ama Tu im moqmedebis<br />
akrZalvis Sesaxeb; droebi-<br />
Ti RonisZieba sasamarTlos Sinaarsobrivi<br />
saboloo gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebamde da kanonier<br />
ZalaSi Sesvlamde. droebiTi RonisZieba<br />
amitom hqvia, sanam Sinaarsobrivad<br />
saboloo gadawyvetileba<br />
ar miiReba. gansaxilvel saqmeze<br />
Tu gainteresebT, SegaxsenebT,<br />
rom pirveli instanciis sasamarTloSi<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze<br />
sasamarTlos gamoyenebuli<br />
aqvs davis dawyebisTanave yadaRa,<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is qoneba dayadaRebulia<br />
da gamoyenebulia garkveuli<br />
akrZalva, raRac garigebebis<br />
warmoeba „rusTavi 2"-s akrZaluli<br />
aqvs sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
kanonier ZalaSi Sesvlamde,<br />
anu uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
kanonieri gadawyvetilebis Zala-<br />
Si Sesvlamdeo. amdagvari RonisZiebaa<br />
strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />
sasamarTlos mier gamoyenebuli<br />
SeCerebis meqanizmi, oRond<br />
dadasturebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
romelic 8 marts unda moxdes, is<br />
gagrZeldeba sasamarTlos saboloo<br />
gadawyvetilebis miRebamde.<br />
ra Tqma unda, Tuki dadasturda,<br />
ra iyo, sad varT da ra unda moxdes<br />
8 marts, esec saintereso iqneba.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos regulaciebiT yvela<br />
sakiTxi, romelic saqmis warmoebas<br />
Seexeba da ara saregistracio<br />
administraciul procedurebs,<br />
yvela sakiTxze msjelobs<br />
da gadawyvetilebas iRebs<br />
kolegiuri Semadgenloba, palata,<br />
magram imisTvis, rom gadaudebel<br />
SemTxvevebSi sasamarTlos<br />
saqmianoba efeqtiani iyos,<br />
igive strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
regulaciiT, gaTvaliswinebulia<br />
gamonaklisi wesi e. w. erTi mosamarTlis<br />
mier miRebuli gadawyvetileba<br />
droebiT, sanam ar Seikribeba<br />
kolegiuri Semadgenloba.<br />
kolegia Semdeg imsjelebs da an<br />
daadasturebs mosamarTlis erTpirovnul<br />
gadawyvetilebas, an Secvlis,<br />
an uaryofs. radgan kolegiurad<br />
ixilavs yvela sakiTxs,<br />
bunebrivia, maTi Sexvedris dRis<br />
wesrigi winaswar, Zalian didi<br />
xniT aris gawerili da saswrafo<br />
sakiTxis warmoCenis SemTxvevaSi<br />
gaweril dRis wesrigSi radgan am<br />
saswrafod dayenebuli sakiTxis<br />
Casma ver eswreba, swored amitom,<br />
regulaciiT, erTi mosamar-<br />
Tle uflebamosilia, aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRos, oRond im vadiT,<br />
rom e. w. kolegiuri dRis<br />
wesrigis sxdomisTvis uaxloes<br />
periodSi moeswros sakiTxis ganxilva,<br />
dadastureba Tu uaryofa.<br />
vaxtang xmalaZe:<br />
_ yvela demokratiul samyaroSi<br />
asea, rodesac mosarCele sasamarTlos<br />
mimarTavs, mas ufleba<br />
aqvs, sasamarTlos sTxovos,<br />
rom SeCerdes garkveuli moqmedeba.<br />
magaliTad, Tqven miCiviT me<br />
da raRac qonebaze medavebiT.<br />
sasamarTloSi rom SeitanT sar-<br />
Cels, SegiZliaT sTxovoT, rom<br />
Cems qonebas yadaRa daadon, raTa<br />
sanam sasamarTlo am saqmes ganixilavs,<br />
amasobaSi me Cemi qoneba ar<br />
gavyido, romelic SeiZleba sasamarTlom<br />
Tqven mogakuTvnoT.<br />
zogadad, wesi aseTia, rodesac<br />
sasamarTlos sarCeliT mimarTav,<br />
SegiZlia moiTxovo sarCelis<br />
uzrunvelyofis RonisZiebis gatareba.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi es moTxovna<br />
iyo, rom SeCerdes uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba,<br />
es iyo „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
mxaris moTxovna da dasabuTebuli<br />
iyo imiT, rom SesaZlebelia,<br />
am gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebam<br />
gavlena moaxdinos am mauwyeblis<br />
saredaqcio politikaze, amitom<br />
gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis davis<br />
mizniT, gTxovT, SeaCeroT uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsrulebao. Cveulebriv, aseT<br />
Suamdgomlobas erTi mosamarTle<br />
ixilavs, wesi aseTia, im mosamar-<br />
Tlem miiCnia, rom aseTi safrTxe<br />
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arsebobs, amitom SeaCera am gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba 8 martamde.<br />
rogorc Cans, ase moiqca imitom,<br />
rom msgavsi qonebrivi davebis<br />
dros, strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
sxva dros, ufro adre, ar<br />
SeuCerebia saxelmwifos sasamar-<br />
Tlos gadawyvetileba, aseTi precedenti<br />
iq ar iyo, amitom man sakuTar<br />
Tavze aiRo gadawyvetilebis<br />
myisieri SeCereba, magram Semdeg<br />
am sakiTxze sasamarTlo far-<br />
To SemadgenlobiT imsjelebs, amitom<br />
SeaCera 8 martamde, rom amasobaSi<br />
gadawyviton, SeaCeron aRsruleba<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
mier arsebiTad saqmis ganxilvamde,<br />
Tu gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebamde moxsnan es SeCereba da<br />
mere, roca arsebiTad ganixilavs,<br />
rasac gadawyvets, imas gadawyvets.<br />
8 ricxvi Sors ar aris, unda<br />
davelodoT, am 2 dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />
ras ityvis, vinaidan TviTon mosarCeleebi<br />
iTxovdnen aRsrulebis<br />
SeCerebas, sanam strasburgi ar<br />
gamoitans gadawyvetilebas da<br />
rogorc guSin movismineT, sazogadoebrivi<br />
irganizaciebis erTma<br />
`yvela demokratiul samyaroSi asea, rodesac<br />
mosarCele sasamarTlos mimarTavs, mas ufleba<br />
aqvs, sasamarTlos sTxovos, rom SeCerdes<br />
garkveuli moqmedeba. magaliTad, Tqven miCiviT<br />
me da raRac qonebaze medavebiT. sasamarTloSi<br />
rom SeitanT sarCels, SegiZliaT sTxovoT,<br />
rom Cems qonebas yadaRa daadon, raTa sanam<br />
sasamarTlo am saqmes ganixilavs, amasobaSi me<br />
Cemi qoneba ar gavyido, romelic SeiZleba<br />
sasamarTlom Tqven mogakuTvnoT. zogadad, wesi<br />
aseTia, rodesac sasamarTlos sarCeliT<br />
mimarTav, SegiZlia moiTxovo sarCelis<br />
uzrunvelyofis RonisZiebis gatareba. am<br />
SemTxvevaSi es moTxovna iyo, rom SeCerdes<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba, es iyo "rusTavi 2"-is mxaris<br />
moTxovna da dasabuTebuli iyo imiT, rom<br />
SesaZlebelia, am gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebam<br />
gavlena moaxdinos am mauwyeblis saredaqcio<br />
politikaze, amitom gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis<br />
davis mizniT, gTxovT, SeaCeroT uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebao.<br />
Cveulebriv, aseT Suamdgomlobas erTi<br />
mosamarTle ixilavs, wesi aseTia, im<br />
mosamarTlem miiCnia, rom aseTi safrTxe<br />
arsebobs, amitom SeaCera am gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba 8 martamde~<br />
vaxtang xmalaZe<br />
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`evropis sasamarTlo am davaSi swored saxelmwifos<br />
moqmedebebs ganixilavs, maT Soris, upirvelesad<br />
Seafasebs sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebebs konvenciis<br />
normebTan mimarTebiT da darRvevis dadgenis<br />
SemTxvevaSi strasburgis gadawyvetileba iqneba<br />
saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos didi palatis<br />
gadawyvetilebis gadasinjvis safuZveli axlad<br />
aRmoCenil garemoebaTa gamo. aseTi norma arsebobs<br />
sisxlis samarTlis saproceso kodeqsSic.<br />
praqtikulad, Semxebloba gvqonda am procedurasTan.<br />
evropis sasamarTlos ganCinebis safuZvelze gadaisinja<br />
erTi Cveni saqme da gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni<br />
gamovida. amJamad, sasamarTloSi prokuraturasTan<br />
gauqmebuli gamamtyunebeli ganaCenisagan damdgari<br />
zianis Taobaze vdaobT~<br />
jgufma da politikuri partiebis<br />
nawilma aseve mimarTa strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos im TxovniT,<br />
rom aRsruleba SeCerdes manamde,<br />
sanam strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />
dacvis sasamarTlo Tavad<br />
ar gamoitans gadawyvetilebas.<br />
ase rom, es iqneba TviTon strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos gadasawyveti<br />
sakiTxi.<br />
soso baraTaSvili:<br />
_ saqarTvelo 1998 wlidan mierTebulia<br />
evropul konvencias<br />
da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelodan<br />
wasul saqmeebs adamianis ufleba-<br />
Ta evropuli sasamarTlo ixilavs,<br />
magram garda konvenciisa,<br />
arsebobs evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
reglamenti, romelic aregulirebs<br />
sxvadasxva sakiTxs da, maT Soris,<br />
aregulirebs droebiTi RonisZiebis<br />
sakiTxs. paraleli rom<br />
gavavloT, samoqalaqo samarTal-<br />
Si CvenTan arsebobs sarCelis uzrunvelyofis<br />
RonisZieba da analogiuri<br />
ram aris iqac. anu reglamentis<br />
39-e muxlSi weria, rom<br />
sasamarTlos SeuZlia miiRos<br />
droebiTi RonisZieba im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu amas sasamarTlo saWirod<br />
miiCnevs, magram vinaidan<br />
evropuli sasamarTlo aris precedentuli<br />
sasamarTlo, anu precedentebs<br />
aqvs Zalian didi mniSvneloba,<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs imasac,<br />
Tu ra iyo aqamde damkvidrebuli<br />
droebiTi RonisZiebis mimarTulebiT.<br />
aq iyo ori tipis SemTxveva:<br />
pirveli iyo eqstradicias daqvemdebarebuli<br />
saqmeebi, rodesac<br />
eqstradicias apirebda erTi<br />
saxelmwifo, meorisTvis gadaeca<br />
misi qveynis moqalaqe, romelsac<br />
im qveyanaSi wameba elodeboda,<br />
Tu gadascemda, faqtobrivad,<br />
rac ar unda sarCeli ganexila<br />
evropul sasamarTlos, is veRar<br />
Sesruldeboda. amitom am mimarTulebiT<br />
araerT saqmeze gamoiyenes<br />
droebiTi RonisZieba, maT<br />
Soris, saqarTvelos saqmeebzec _<br />
Samaevi da sxvebi saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg, 2001 wels, rodesac<br />
evropulma sasamarTlom SeaCera<br />
CeCeni erovnebis adamianis eqstradicia<br />
CeCneTSi da, faqtobrivad,<br />
saqarTvelodan Semdgom es<br />
adamiani aRar gadasces. Semdgom<br />
maTi saqme evropulma sasamarTlom<br />
ganixila, gadawyvetileba miiRo<br />
da a. S., magram es droebiTi<br />
RonisZieba rom ar yofiloyo gamoyenebuli,<br />
bunebrivia, Semdgom-<br />
levan alafiSvili<br />
Si ukve azri daekargeboda aRsrulebas.<br />
meore SemTxveva aris,<br />
rodesac adamiani avadaa, es sakiTxi<br />
patimrebs exeba da mas sWirdeba<br />
gadaudebeli mkurnaloba,<br />
am SemTxvevaSic iyenebs droebiT<br />
RonisZiebas, magaliTad, molaSvilis<br />
saqmeze gamoiyenes es RonisZieba,<br />
rodesac saxelmwifos daevala,<br />
rom, Tavis droze, Caetarebina<br />
efeqtiani mkurnaloba, Seqmniliyo<br />
komisia da saxelmwifom<br />
amis gamo garkveuli sazRauri<br />
gaiRo, magram rodesac saqme exeba<br />
qonebrivi tipis davebs, faqtobrivad,<br />
es arasodes ar yofila<br />
gamoyenebuli evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
praqtikaSi. amitom Se-<br />
Cereba am SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovania,<br />
oRond aq erT faqtors<br />
unda mivaqcioT yuradReba: rom<br />
am gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba<br />
SeCerebulia sul ramdenime dRiT<br />
da 8 marts evropis sasamarTlo<br />
kvlav ganixilavs am sakiTxs da<br />
Tavis gadawyvetilebas miiRebs<br />
droebiTi RonisZiebis Taobaze,<br />
an sabolood danergavs am tipis<br />
precedents, rom aseTi tipis dav-<br />
ebze SesaZlebelia droebiTi<br />
RonisZiebis gamoyeneba, an ar danergavs.<br />
rac Seexeba Semdgom nabijebs,<br />
sabolood, ra gadawyvetilebas<br />
gamoitans evropuli sasamarTlo,<br />
amas gaaCnia. Tu iseTi<br />
gadawyvetileba gamoitana, sadac<br />
miCneuli iqneba, rom darRveuli<br />
iyo sakuTrebis, an samarTliani<br />
sasamarTlos ufleba, aseT Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi, saxelmwifos Tavidan<br />
daevaleba am saqmis ganxilva im<br />
SeniSvnebis gaTvaliswinebiT, romelTac<br />
evropuli sasamarTlo<br />
miuTiTebs.<br />
malxaz pataraia:<br />
_ TiTqos strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba ver moaxdens<br />
gavlenas uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
saboloo gadawyvetilebaze<br />
da misi aRsruleba mainc moxdeba.<br />
es an umecrebaa, an kidev<br />
sazogadoebisTvis ganzrax Tval-<br />
Si nacris Seyra. saqarTvelos<br />
samoqalaqo kodeqsSi 2010 wlidan<br />
aris norma, romelic uzrunvelyofs<br />
Sida sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
gadaxedvas adamianis<br />
uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze.<br />
„muxli 423. gancxadeba axlad<br />
aRmoCenil garemoebaTa gamo saqmis<br />
warmoebis ganaxlebis Sesaxeb:<br />
1. kanonier ZalaSi Sesuli gadawyvetileba<br />
SeiZleba gasaCivrdes<br />
axlad aRmoCenil garemoeba-<br />
Ta gamo saqmis warmoebis ganaxlebis<br />
moTxovniT, Tu:<br />
z) arsebobs adamianis ufleba-<br />
Ta evropis sasamarTlos kanonier<br />
ZalaSi Sesuli gadawyvetileba<br />
(ganCineba), romelmac daadgina<br />
adamianis uflebaTa da Ziri-<br />
Tad TavisuflebaTa dacvis konvenciis<br />
an/da misi damatebiTi oqmebis<br />
darRveva am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
da dadgenili darRveva<br />
gadasasinji gadawyvetilebidan<br />
gamomdinareobs”.<br />
evropis sasamarTlo am davaSi<br />
swored saxelmwifos moqmedebebs<br />
`pirveli instanciis sasamarTloSi `rusTavi 2"-<br />
is saqmeze sasamarTlos gamoyenebuli aqvs<br />
davis dawyebisTanave yadaRa, `rusTavi 2"-is<br />
qoneba dayadaRebulia da gamoyenebulia<br />
garkveuli akrZalva, raRac garigebebis<br />
warmoeba `rusTavi 2"-s akrZaluli aqvs<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis kanonier ZalaSi<br />
Sesvlamde, anu uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
kanonieri gadawyvetilebis ZalaSi Sesvlamdeo.<br />
amdagvari RonisZiebaa strasburgis adamianis<br />
uflebaTa sasamarTlos mier gamoyenebuli<br />
SeCerebis meqanizmi, oRond dadasturebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, romelic 8 marts unda moxdes, is<br />
gagrZeldeba sasamarTlos saboloo<br />
gadawyvetilebis miRebamde. ra Tqma unda, Tuki<br />
dadasturda, ra iyo, sad varT da ra unda<br />
moxdes 8 marts, esec saintereso iqneba~<br />
ganixilavs, maT Soris, upirvelesad<br />
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gadawyvetileba iqneba saqar-<br />
Tvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
didi palatis gadawyvetilebis<br />
gadasinjvis safuZveli axlad aRmoCenil<br />
garemoebaTa gamo. aseTi<br />
norma arsebobs sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saproceso kodeqsSic. praqtikulad,<br />
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procedurasTan. evropis sasamarTlos<br />
ganCinebis safuZvelze<br />
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mimarT, magram Tu Seni TaviT<br />
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xar, yursmiRma gaataro...<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebaze<br />
jer xelmomwerTa<br />
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nabiji, rasakvirvelia, Tavad rus-<br />
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mzadeba, Tumca aq isic<br />
unda gavixsenoT, rom Tavad<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ic ki didi imediT ar<br />
uyurebda strasburgul perspeqtivas.<br />
magaliTad, „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
iuristis, TamTa muradaSvilis<br />
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maTi mimarTvis mixedviT<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba, rac<br />
telekompaniis qibar xalvaSisTvis<br />
gadacemas gulisxmobs, adamianis<br />
uflebaTa evropul sasamarTloSi<br />
saqmis arsebiTi ganxilvis<br />
dawyebamde unda SeCerdes:<br />
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rom Zalian sustia Sansebi. strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos praqtikis<br />
mixedviT, amgvari gadawyvetileba,<br />
anu sarCelis uzrunvelyofa,<br />
gamoiyeneba mxolod gansakuTrebul<br />
SemTxvevebSi, kerZod, kanoniT<br />
daculi yvelaze didi sike-<br />
Tis, sicocxlis gadasarCenad,<br />
roca adamianis janmrTelobas da<br />
sicocxles safrTxe emuqreba.<br />
arasdros yofila praqtika,<br />
sityvis TavisufebasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
amgvari RonisZieba yofiliyo<br />
gamoyenebuli. amitom gansakuTrebuli<br />
imediT ar varT, Tumca<br />
Cveni valdebulebaa, yvela<br />
lo gadawyvetilebaze, aseve, „tviterze”<br />
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saqarTvelos vizaliberalizacia,<br />
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is saqmeze Seafasa, rogorc evropul<br />
gzaze ukan gadadgmuli nabiji.<br />
poziciebi „tviterze” evropis<br />
saxalxo partiis prezidentma,<br />
jozef dolim da evroparlamentis<br />
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„aldes” jgufs miaCnia, rom<br />
mediis Tavisuflebas safrTxe<br />
emuqreba, radgan „rusTavi 2"<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis ndobiT<br />
aRWurvili piris xelSi gadavida.<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT gancxadeba<br />
saqarTveloSi evrokavSiris<br />
warmomadgenlobamac gaakeTa.<br />
„euTos” warmomadgenelma mediis<br />
Tavisuflebis sakiTxebSi, d-<br />
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gancxadebac gavrcelda.<br />
oficialuri gancxadeba saqar-<br />
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pirvelad, jer kidev, strasburgis<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebamde,<br />
sakiTxs saqarTvelos<br />
prezidenti gamoexmaura da sakmaod<br />
Wkvianuri gancxadeba gaakeTa:<br />
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adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebebs movusminoT,<br />
davelodoT da ar gadavdgaT<br />
myisieri nabijebi”.<br />
sul male evropisa da danar-<br />
Ceni msoflios gavleniani politikosebi,<br />
analitikosebi da saer-<br />
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mier „rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze miRebul<br />
gadawyvetilebaze alaparakdnen<br />
da masSi qveynisTvis seriozuli<br />
problema dainaxes.<br />
magaliTad, evroparlamentis<br />
wevrma da saxalxo partiis viceprezidentma,<br />
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qveynisTvis uvizo mimosvlis Se-<br />
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es iyo politikuri<br />
gadawyvetileba, romelzec pasuxismgebloba<br />
ekisreba ivaniSvils<br />
da mis mTavrobas. es gaakeTes vizaliberalizaciis<br />
miRebidan meore<br />
dRes, rac evrokavSiris dacinva<br />
iyo.<br />
aseT viTarebaSi, sanam „rusTavi<br />
2"-is bedi ar gairkveva, vizaliberalizacia<br />
unda SeCerdes,<br />
radgan saqarTvelo ar asrulebs<br />
kriteriumebs. evrokavSirs yvela<br />
sababi aqvs, rom Tavi igrZnos<br />
saqarTvelos mier motyuebulad.<br />
qarTveli xalxi imsaxurebs uvizo<br />
reJims, magram ara es mTavroba,<br />
romelsac ivaniSvili kulisebidan<br />
marTavs”, _ Tqva man.<br />
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gamonaklis safuZvelze Tanxmdeba,<br />
rodesac ganmcxadebeli, winaaRmdeg<br />
SemTxvevaSi, seriozuli<br />
da Seuqcevadi zianis realuri<br />
riskis winaSe dgeba.<br />
xalvaSi amtkicebs, rom saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam, prezident<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis dros,<br />
mas televiziis realurze dabal<br />
fasad gayidva aiZula. opozicioneri<br />
politikosebi irwmunebian,<br />
rom sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
ukan miliarderi biZina ivaniSvili<br />
dgas, romelmac koalicia<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” daafuZna da<br />
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi premierministris<br />
Tanamdeboba ekava”, _<br />
dawera radio „Tavisuflebam”.<br />
evrosasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas<br />
Reuters-ic gamoexmaura:<br />
„saqarTvelom, evropuli sasamarTlos<br />
Carevis pasuxad, paraskevs<br />
SeaCera Sida sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba, romliTac qveynis<br />
udidesi damoukidebeli telekompania<br />
mTavrobis axlo mokav-<br />
Siris kontrols dauqvemdebares.<br />
qveynis uzenaesma sasamarTlom<br />
xuTSabaTs gadawyvetileba gamoitana,<br />
rom samauwyeblo kompania<br />
„rusTavi 2" yofil Tanamflobel<br />
biznesmen qibar xalvaSs daubrundes,<br />
rasac kritikosebma qveynis<br />
SigniTac da sazRvargareTac medauwereli<br />
kanoni:<br />
ba pirveli dReebidanve akvirdeba<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is sasamarTlo<br />
process. Cven yuradRebiT SeviswavliT<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
mier miRebul gadawyvetilebas<br />
iseve, rogorc mis Sedegebs.<br />
amavdroulad, vicavT didi<br />
xnis win damkvidrebul praqtikas,<br />
romlis Tanaxmadac, sasamarTlos<br />
calkeul gadawyvetilebebze komentars<br />
ar vakeTebT.<br />
ukve wlebia, rac evrokavSiri<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebasTan<br />
sasamarTlo sistemis reformaze<br />
muSaobs, romlis ganxorcielebisas<br />
ZiriTadi yuradReba eTmoba<br />
sasamarTlo procedurebis damoukideblobas,<br />
gamWvirvalobasa<br />
da xarisxs, rac kanonis uzenaesobis<br />
dacvisTvis sasicocxlod<br />
mniSvnelovania.<br />
kidev erTxel vusvamT xazs<br />
politikuri pluralizmis, mediis<br />
Tavisuflebisa da gansxvavebul<br />
Sexedulebebze wvdomis<br />
aucileblobas.<br />
dRevandel etapze am principebis<br />
SenarCunebas fundamenturi<br />
mniSvneloba eniWeba demokratiis<br />
dacvisa da ganmticebis saqmeSi,<br />
rac Seesabameba evrokavSirsa da<br />
saqarTvelos Soris gaformebul<br />
asocirebis SeTanxmebaSi mocemul<br />
umTavres valdebulebebs”, _ aRniSnuli<br />
iyo gancxadebaSi.<br />
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mediis Tavisuflebas”, _ aseTi<br />
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ufro myardeba.<br />
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models mihyvebian, romlis<br />
Sedegicaa kritikuli mediis potenciuri<br />
daxurva”, _ aRniSna organizacia<br />
Freedom House-is proeqtebis<br />
direqtorma, neiT Senkanma.<br />
aSS-is saelCo erT-erTi pirveli<br />
iyo, vinc „rusTavi 2"-is saqmeze<br />
miRebul gadawyvetilebas sagangebo<br />
gancxadebiT gamoexmaura:<br />
„amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi<br />
SeSfoTebiT uyurebs uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos mier „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
Sesaxeb miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sedegs, ramac, SesaZloa, faqtobrivad,<br />
SezRudos samauwyeblo<br />
mediisadmi opoziciuri xmis<br />
wvdoma.<br />
pluralisturi media umniSvnelovanesia<br />
saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />
zrdisa da evroatlantikuri<br />
miswrafebebisTvis.<br />
Cven movuwodebT mTavrobas,<br />
zomebi miiRos, raTa uzrunvelyos,<br />
rom mediagaremo darCes Tavisufali,<br />
Ria da pluralisturi”,<br />
_ naTqvami iyo gancxadebaSi.<br />
amerikeli analitikosi, pol<br />
krigo, ufro Sors wavida da acxadebda,<br />
rom „rusTavi 2"-is miTvisebis<br />
mcdelobis fonze, saqarTvelo<br />
ufro metad emsgavseba ruseTs.<br />
makkeinis institutis direqtorma<br />
adamianis uflebebis mimarTulebiT<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas „qveynisTvis movlenebis<br />
samwuxaro ganviTareba”<br />
uwoda.<br />
Zalian saintereso da xelisuflebisTvis<br />
aranakleb niSandoblivi<br />
unda yofiliyo saerTa-<br />
Soriso presis gamoxmaureba uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT:<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
diis gaCumebis mcdeloba uwodes”,<br />
_ werda gamocema.<br />
„Tuki „rusTavi 2"-s mTavrobasTan<br />
damegobrebuli biznesmeni<br />
waiRebs, es saqarTvelos evropul<br />
gzas daazianebs”, _ es gancxadeba<br />
ki uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
Semdeg amerikelma Jurnalistma,<br />
jeims qirCikma, gaake-<br />
Ta, romelmac strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas mniSvnelovani<br />
uwoda:<br />
`saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT saerTaSoriso sazogadoeba ase erTiani,<br />
karga xania, ar yofila - maTTvis uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />
is wiTeli xazi aRmoCnda, romelic xelisuflebam gadalaxa. am sakiTxSi<br />
msoflio presisa da politikosebis poziciebic erTmaneTs daemTxva.<br />
rogorc Cans, mniSvnelovani saerTaSoriso organizaciebi da<br />
evrokavSiris wevri qveynebisa Tu aSS-is saxelmwifo struqturebi Tavad<br />
`rusTavi 2"-is qarTvel gulSematkivrebze naklebad ar elodebodnen<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas. albaT, swored es<br />
gadawyvetileba unda yofiliyo testi, ra formisa da Sinaarsis<br />
gancxadebebi gakeTdeboda saerTaSoriso organizaciebis mxridan~<br />
„evroatlantikuri integracia<br />
rom warmatebuli iyos, amis umniSvnelovanesi<br />
nawili mediis<br />
pluralizmi da Tavisuflebaa.<br />
Cven vxedavT, Tu ra xdeba qveynebSi,<br />
sadac damoukidebeli media<br />
saxelmwifos tyveobaSi eqceva.<br />
amas vuyurebT ruseTSi. Tuki<br />
„rusTavi 2"-s mTavrobasTan damegobrebuli<br />
biznesmeni waiRebs, es<br />
saqarTvelos evropul gzas daazianebs.<br />
vfiqrob, rom es Tema<br />
evropelebisTvis mniSvnelovania”,<br />
_ ganacxada jeims qirCikma.<br />
aSS-is saxelmwifo departmentma,<br />
ase vTqvaT, odnav daagviana<br />
biZina ivaniSvilisTvis „dedis<br />
dRis” milocva. es, savaraudod,<br />
iman ganapiroba, rom saqarTvelo-<br />
Si aSS-is saelCos ukve hqonda gancxadeba<br />
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pozicia ki igive TeTri saxlis<br />
poziciaa.<br />
marTalia, es „ocnebis” mesveurebs<br />
ar esmiT da erTxel isic<br />
ki Tqves, rom elCis naTqvami misi<br />
„piradi azri” iyo, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />
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saxelmwifo departamentis<br />
warmomadgenlisTvis „rusTavi 2"-<br />
is korespondent daviT nikuraZes<br />
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warmomadgenelma samauwyeblo<br />
kompania „amerikis<br />
xmis” korespondentis, sindi seinis<br />
SekiTxvas upasuxa:<br />
„SeerTebuli Statebi SeSfo-<br />
Tebulia „rusTavi 2"-Tan dakav-<br />
SirebiT (saqarTvelos) uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
SedegiT. (gadawyvetilebam) Sesa-<br />
Zloa, SezRudos opoziciis xma<br />
qarTul samauwyeblo mediaSi.<br />
pluralisturi mediagaremo<br />
arsebiTia saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />
zrdisa da evroatlantikuri<br />
miswrafebebisTvis. vTxovT<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobas,<br />
nabijebi gadadgas da uzrunvelyos,<br />
rom mediagaremo darCes Tavisufali,<br />
Ria da pluralisturi”.<br />
rac Seexeba evrosasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas saqarTvelos<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos ganaCenis<br />
aRsrulebis SeCerebis Sesaxeb, am<br />
gadawyvetilebas amerikeli analitikosebi<br />
kmayofilebiT Sexvdnen.<br />
eqspertebis TqmiT, strasburgis<br />
gadawyvetilebam kidev erTxel<br />
gausva xazi, Tu ramdenad mniSvnelovania<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is saqme<br />
demokratiisTvis, radgan mas mosamarTlis<br />
uprecedento gadawyvetileba<br />
mohyva.<br />
„Cemi azriT, es uCvenebs imas,<br />
Tu ramdenad seriozulad aRiqves<br />
es saqme, rogorc evropaSi,<br />
ise vaSingtonSi. mediis Tavisufleba<br />
kritikulad mniSvnelovani<br />
da saTuTi Rirebulebaa. rodesac<br />
evropuli sasamarTlo aseT nabijs<br />
dgams, es dadasturebaa, Tu<br />
ramdenad SeSfoTebulebi arian am<br />
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT. mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom yvelaferi iuridiulad<br />
da transparentulad iyos,<br />
Tumca aseve Zalian mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom presis Tavisufleba daicvan<br />
saqarTveloSi. es aris mTavari<br />
problema, romelic unda gamoswordes.<br />
presis Tavisufleba<br />
da opoziciis wvdoma mediasTan<br />
umTavresia”, _ ganacxada aSS-is<br />
yofilma elCma saqarTveloSi,<br />
kenet ialovicma.<br />
makkeinis institutis aRmasrulebeli<br />
direqtori, SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis yofili elCi natoSi,<br />
kurt vokeri, ambobs, rom saqar-<br />
TvelosTvis, iseve rogorc yvela<br />
qveynisTvis, Tavisufali da<br />
mravalferovani mediagaremo<br />
aucilebelia. diplomati im saxifaTo<br />
tendenciebs ganmartavs,<br />
romelic amas xels uSlis:<br />
„gaxsnili media garemo, mravalferovani<br />
mflobelebiT, bevri<br />
aspeqtiT da mravalmxrivi SexedulebiT,<br />
sadac Tavisuflad SeuZliaT<br />
azris gamoxatva, nebismieri<br />
qveynisTvis kritikulad<br />
mniSvnelovania. es gvWirdeba SeerTebul<br />
StatebSic. Cven gvaqvs<br />
Zalian farTo da gaxsnili mediagaremo,<br />
sxvadasxva mxariT da yvelas<br />
xma ismis.<br />
es yvela qveyanas sWirdeba da,<br />
maT Soris, saqarTvelos. es sworedac<br />
rom aZlierebs mTavrobas<br />
da opoziciasac, radgan mediis<br />
saSualebiT ufro energiuli debatebi<br />
iarsebebs”, _ ganacxada<br />
kurt vokerma.<br />
diplomatma aRniSna, rom mauwyeblebs<br />
ar unda hqondeT erTnairi<br />
Sexedulebebi.<br />
„Tu Cven gveqneba iseTi situacia,<br />
rodesac mTavrobis mier mar-<br />
Tul mauwyebels da sxva mTavar<br />
kerZo mauwyeblebs eqnebaT erTnairi<br />
politikuri Sexedulebebi,<br />
es SekiTxvas wamowevs sistemuri<br />
mediis gaxsnilobisa da mravalferovnebis<br />
Sesaxeb”, _ ganacxada<br />
kurt vokerma.<br />
mediis Tavisuflebis sakiTxze<br />
TavianTi mosazrebebi rusma eqspertebmac<br />
gamoTqves:<br />
analitikosi andrei ilarionovi<br />
fiqrobs, rom samoqalaqo da<br />
politikuri uflebebi da ZiriTadi<br />
Tavisuflebebi yvela qveynisTvis<br />
Zalian Rirebulia.<br />
misi azri mniSvnelovania imitomac,<br />
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winaT vladimir putinis mrCeveli<br />
iyo da im procesis momswrea,<br />
rodesac ruseTSi araerTi telekompania<br />
gaaCumes.<br />
rasakvirvelia, saerTaSoriso<br />
gamoxmaurebebi strasburgis sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebaze imitomac<br />
iyo mniSvnelovani, rom 8<br />
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mier Semosavliani Tanamdebobebis, umaRlesi sasulie-<br />
ro wodebebisa da miwebis naTesavebisTvis darigeba, sakuTari<br />
Zalauflebis ganmtkicebis mizniT. gansakuTrebiT farTod iyo<br />
gavrcelebuli me-15-16 ss-ebSi; am gziT amaRldnen papis san-<br />
aTesavodan SemdgomSi Zlevamosili gvarebi (borgeze, ludovizi,<br />
borjia da sxvebi). 2. Tanamedrove terminologiiT, nepotizmi<br />
gulisxmobs Tanamdebobebis dakavebas, upiratesad, naTesavebis<br />
mier saerTo da samarTliani wesrigis sawinaaRmdegod.<br />
RaribaSvilis cnobili fraza:<br />
„Tqven ar gsmeniaT, rom meuRlis<br />
naTesavi naTesavi ar aris?” razec<br />
nadiraSvilma upasuxa, rom es „kaxuri<br />
sibrZnea” da is am „sibrZnes”<br />
icnobs. cota aramarTebulia... radgan<br />
es namdvilad araTu kaxuri,<br />
aramed qiziyuri sibrZnea da, bunebrivia,<br />
qiziyelebSi maradiulad<br />
gvxvdeba.<br />
dRevandeli Cveni Temac swored<br />
naTesavebi arian, oRond, sosos<br />
colis naTesavebi...<br />
Sps „saqarTvelos navTobisa da<br />
gazis korporacia”, ekonomikuri<br />
ganviTarebis ministris brZanebis<br />
safuZvelze, 2006 wlis 21 marts<br />
100%-iani saxelmwifo wiliT dafuZnda.<br />
korporaciis sawesdebo kapitalSi,<br />
romelic 166 021 192 lars<br />
Seadgens, Sevida „saqarTvelos nav-<br />
Tobis saerTaSoriso korporaciis”,<br />
ss „saqarTvelos gazis saerTa-<br />
Soriso korporaciisa” da ss „saqnavTobis”<br />
saxelmwifos sakuTreba-<br />
Si arsebuli aqciebi.<br />
korporaciis saqmianobis Ziri-<br />
Tadi mimarTulebebia: navTobisa<br />
da gazis resursebis daZieba, maTi<br />
aTviseba, mopoveba, am samuSaoTa<br />
daproeqteba, aseve navTobisa da<br />
gazis, maTi produqtebis saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriaze da mis farglebs<br />
gareT transportirebis,<br />
tranzitis, eqsportis, importis,<br />
Senaxvis, momzadebis, gadamuSavebis,<br />
realizaciisa da marketingis<br />
operaciebis warmoeba;<br />
qeTevan martyofliSvili<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
giorgi xelaSvili<br />
saqarTveloSi arsebuli magistraluri<br />
gazsadenebis sistemis,<br />
gazsadenebisa da navTobsadenebis<br />
eqspluatacia; maTi aRdgena da axliT<br />
Secvla; axali magistraluri<br />
gazsadenebisa da navTobsadenebis<br />
daproeqteba da mSenebloba; sa-<br />
Tanado infrastruqturis Seqmna,<br />
ganviTareba da operireba;<br />
agreTve, samrewvelo, sayofacxovrebo<br />
da komunaluri obieqtebis,<br />
saqarTvelos qalaqebisa da<br />
soflebis bunebrivi gaziT uzrunvelyofa;<br />
kaspiis zRvis auzis,<br />
aseve, sxva warmoSobis mqone navTobisa<br />
da gazis magistraluri milsadenebiT<br />
transportirebasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli proeqtebis ganxorcieleba.<br />
saqarTvelos navTobisa da gazis<br />
korporacia yvelaze Zlieri saxelmwifo<br />
Sps-a, sadac soliduri<br />
biujeti da arnaxuli Tanxis brunvaa.<br />
2012 wlis mere SesamCnevi gaxda,<br />
rom „qarTuli ocnebis” didi aqtivistebi<br />
da irakli RaribaSvilis<br />
megobrebi swored am korporacia-<br />
Si iwyeben muSaobas, sadac maT soliduri<br />
xelfasebi aqvT...<br />
Tumca irakli warsuls Cabarda,<br />
samagierod, qiziyidan dagvrCa soso.<br />
ioseb-soso gogaSvilis meuRle<br />
Tea martyofliSvili warsulSi<br />
sad muSaobda, CvenTvis ucnobia,<br />
Tumca martyofliSvili „saqarTvelos<br />
navTobisa da gazis korporaciis”<br />
mTavari specialisti iyo<br />
2014 wels, xolo 2016 wels gogaSvilis<br />
qonebriv deklaraciaSi<br />
gazis transportirebis kompaniaSi<br />
administraciis ufrosis moadgiledaa<br />
miTiTebuli.<br />
ra Tqma unda, es ar aris yvelaferi.<br />
rogorc cnobilia, gogaSvils<br />
saxelmwifo Sps-Si mxolod misi<br />
meuRle ar dausaqmebia, magaliTad,<br />
Tea martyofliSvilis da -qeTevani,<br />
2012 wlis mere swored saqarTvelos<br />
navTobisa da gazis korporaciis<br />
TanamSromlad gvevlineba.<br />
magram mxolod colis erTi<br />
naTesaviT ar Semoifargleba gogaSvili<br />
_ giorgi xelaSvili ioseb<br />
gogaSvilis meuRlis, Tea martyofliSvilis<br />
dis, xaTuna martyofliSvilis<br />
vaJia. warsulSi xelaSvili<br />
kompania „Tbili saxlis” TanamSromeli<br />
iyo, Tumca 2014 wlis<br />
Semdeg is ukve saqarTvelos gazis<br />
transportirebis kompaniaSi iwyebs<br />
muSaobas.<br />
e. i. gogaSvilis meuRle, meuRlis<br />
da, da meuRlis disSvili,<br />
swored, 2012 wlis Semdeg gaxdnen<br />
kvalificiuri kadrebi, romelTa<br />
miRebazec uari ver Tqva iseTma<br />
didma kompaniam, rogoric aris Sps<br />
„saqarTvelos navTobisa da gazis<br />
korporacia”...<br />
realurad ki, roca vambobT, ra<br />
xdeba, ratom midis qveyana ukan,<br />
swored umTavresi mizezi gvaviwydeba...<br />
_ politikuri gavlena!<br />
gamWvirvalobisa da angariSvaldebulebis<br />
dabali standarti!<br />
araefeqtiani marTvis principebi!<br />
swored am sakiTxebidan gamomdinare<br />
imarTeba qveyana, romelic<br />
saxelmwifo sawarmoebs gansaku-<br />
TrebiT awuxebs.<br />
saxelmwifo kompaniebi politikuri<br />
gavlenebisgan Tavisufali<br />
ar arian, rac imiT gamoixateba,<br />
rom am kompaniebSi Tanamdebobebze<br />
mmarTvel politikur partiasTan<br />
daaxloebuli pirebi iniSnebian. amis<br />
naTeli magaliTi gogaSvilis<br />
ojaxia. amomrCevelTa erTiani siis<br />
mixedviT, Tea martyofliSvili,<br />
giorgi xelaSvili da qeTevan martyofliSvili<br />
erTsa da imave misamarTze<br />
cxovroben da erTi ojaxis<br />
wevrebi arian. faqtia, gasul<br />
wlebSi maT am kompaniebSi ar umu-<br />
SaviaT, maTi muSaobis dawyeba ki<br />
gogaSvilis dawinaurebas ukavSirdeba.<br />
saxelmwifo kompaniebSi: „saqar-<br />
Tvelos fosta”, „saqarTvelos<br />
latariis kompania”, „saqarTvelos<br />
navTobisa da gazis korporacia”,<br />
„marabda-karwaxis rkinigza”, „Tbilisis<br />
satransporto kompania”,<br />
„saqarTvelos rkinigza”, _ es is<br />
kompaniebia, sadac gogaSvilis magvarad<br />
Cinovnikebis axloblebi,<br />
naTesavebi, coleurebi Tu mZaxlebi<br />
„Sromoben”. ramdenad aris mosaxleoba<br />
am kompaniebis muSaobiT<br />
kmayofili, es Tavad gansajos.<br />
„navTobisa da gazis korporaciis”<br />
mogebis ganawilebis wess finansTa<br />
saministrosTan Seqmnili komisia<br />
adgens, romelSic 4 saministro<br />
Sedis da romelic 2013 wlis<br />
Semdeg ar Sekrebila. ase rom, vin<br />
igebs _ saxelmwifo Tu gogaSvili?<br />
_ amas momavali gviCvenebs. gasul<br />
wels „gamWvirvaloba saqarTvelom”<br />
rekomendaciiT mimarTa saxelmwifos,<br />
arsebobdes pirdapiri mimarTeba<br />
saxelmwifo sawarmoebsa da parlaments<br />
Soris, rom sawarmoebi angariSvaldebuli<br />
iyos parlamentis<br />
winaSe. unda arsebobdes erTi makoordinebeli<br />
organo,<br />
unda gaiweros saxelmwifo sawarmos<br />
eTikis kodeqsi<br />
sakanonmdeblo doneze, unda<br />
daregulirdes sajaro informaciis<br />
gacemis wesi saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi<br />
arsebuli sawarmoebisTvis,<br />
antikorufciuli kanonmdeblobis<br />
principebi srulad unda gavrceldes<br />
saxelmwifo sawarmoebze,<br />
saxelmwifo sawarmoebma saku-<br />
Tar vebgverdze gamoaqveynon socialuri,<br />
ekologiuri da saxelfaso<br />
politika.<br />
organizacias miaCnia, rom sawarmoebis<br />
sameTvalyureo sabWoebi<br />
unda dakompleqtdes gamWvirvale<br />
da mkafio kriteriumebis mixedviT.<br />
Tumca rekomendacia rekomendaciad<br />
darCa.<br />
Cemi suseli megobebi meubnebian,<br />
rom gogaSvilis ojaxis yvela<br />
wevri: Svilebi, rZali, siZe, oTxive<br />
colisda, qvislebi da colisZmac,<br />
anu sidedris garda, yvela sxvadasxva<br />
saxelmwifo kompaniaSia gadanawilebulia<br />
samuSaod. rac Seexeba<br />
soso gogaSvilis das, is erTerT<br />
skolaSi ukve didi xania, maswavleblad<br />
muSaobs da mas Zmis rekomendacia,<br />
rogorc Cans, ar dasWirvebia.<br />
qiziySi ki amboben xolme: rogorc<br />
rusTavi _ qalaqebSi, „moskviCi”<br />
_ manqanebSi, ise siZe da rZali<br />
naTesavebSi ar iTvlebiano...<br />
soso batono, roca sus-is<br />
ufrosis moadgile aRar iqnebiT,<br />
moyvrebze mere visaubroT...<br />
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„ar iqneba samarTlianoba, ar iqneba mSvidoba”, _ ukve loz-<br />
ungad qceuli es fraza idealurad miesadageba im viTarebas,<br />
romelic saqarTveloSi, ager ukve, 22-e welia, gvaqvs saarCevno<br />
garemosTan dakavSirebiT. ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, saubaria<br />
maJoritarul saarCevno sistemaze, romelmac saqarTveloSi<br />
ukiduresad mankieri saxe miiRo.<br />
sistemur mankierebebze odnav<br />
mogvianebiT visaubroT, manamde<br />
ki getyviT, rom am statiis daweris<br />
survili xelisuflebis mier<br />
ramdenime dRis winaT gaJRerebulma<br />
iniciativam gamiCina. kerZod,<br />
gasul xuTSabaTs, sakonstitucio<br />
komisiis sxdomaze, xelisuflebam<br />
ganacxada, rom mzadaa,<br />
maJoritaruli saarCevno sistema<br />
proporciuli sistemiT Caanacvlos.<br />
anu brZola, romelic 1995 wlidan<br />
politikosTa ramdeni Taobis<br />
mier mimdinareobs erTmandatiani<br />
maJoritaruli olqebis winaaRmdeg,<br />
SesaZloa, gamarjvebiT<br />
dasruldes(?).<br />
Tumca xelisufleba risi xelisuflebaa,<br />
bolo momentSi rom<br />
ar Casvaros da saqme ar gaafuWos.<br />
proporciul sistemaze gadasvlis<br />
iniciativas „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />
iseTi piroba moayola, sixarulis<br />
Rimili yvelas pirze miaSra.<br />
rogorc komisiis Tavmjdomarem<br />
ganmarta, xelisufleba<br />
proporciul sistemaze gadasvlas<br />
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi dasTanxmdeba,<br />
Tu arCevnebis Semdeg<br />
darCenili, gadaunawilebeli mandatebi,<br />
mTlianad pirvel adgilze<br />
gasul partias miecema. ras<br />
niSnavs es praqtikaSi?<br />
magaliTisTvis, bolo saparlamento<br />
arCevnebze 5%-iani barieri<br />
samma politikurma subieqtma<br />
gadalaxa. „qarTulma ocnebam”<br />
48% miiRo, „nacionalebma” _ 27%,<br />
xolo _ „patriotTa aliansma” _<br />
5%. erTad maT aiRes 80% da mandatebic<br />
Sesabamisad gainawiles.<br />
gadasanawilebeli darCa kidev<br />
20% mandatebisa. gamomdinare iqidan,<br />
rom dRevandeli Sereuli<br />
sistemiT 150-kacian parlamentSi<br />
proporciuli wesiT 77 deputats<br />
virCevT (danarCeni 73 maJoritaria),<br />
gadasanawilebeli darCa swored<br />
am 77-is 20%, anu 16 mandati,<br />
romelic bariergadalaxulebze<br />
Tanabrad gadanawilda. ai, swored<br />
am darCenili da gadasanawilebeli<br />
mandatebis srulad mikuTvnebas<br />
iTxovs „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
pirvel adgilze gasuli subieqtisTvis.<br />
oRond erTi mniSvnelovani<br />
detali:<br />
roca 150-ve deputats proporciuli<br />
sistemiT avirCevT, gaunawilebeli<br />
mandatebis raodenobas<br />
daviTvliT ukve ara 77-dan,<br />
rogorc dRes, aramed 150-dan. Sedegad<br />
ki miviRebT, rom, magaliTisTvis,<br />
Tu darCa kvlav gadaunawilebeli<br />
mandatebis 20%, es ukve<br />
iqneba 150-is 20%, anu 30 mandati.<br />
bunebrivad Cndeba kiTxva, _ ra<br />
Rorobaa?!. ra duokebeli moTxovnileba<br />
uCndeba yvela xelisuflebas,<br />
miisakuTros is, rac mas ar<br />
12<br />
maradiuli<br />
maJoritarebi da<br />
parlamentarobis<br />
`maradisobis<br />
kanoni~<br />
`Tavis droze, TviT biZina ivaniSvilic ver malavda. igi maT "feodalebs"<br />
uwodebda, rac saarCevno sistemis cvlilebis imeds aCenda, magram<br />
molodini mcdari aRmoCnda. rogorc ki biZinamac da mTelma "ocnebamac"<br />
dainaxa, rom reitingi katastrofulad dauvardaT, gadarCenis erTaderT<br />
gzad isev maJoritaruli sistemis SenarCuneba gadawyvites. avad Tu kargad,<br />
dRemde movaRwieT, magram ukve "ocnebaSic" xvdebian, rom mudmivad ase<br />
gagrZeleba ar SeiZleba. miT umetes, rom ukve yvela am saarCevno sistemis<br />
Secvlas iTxovs. iTxoven politikuri partiebi, iTxoven arasamTavroboebi<br />
da rac Zalian mniSvnelovania, iTxoven saerTaSoriso organizaciebi.<br />
evrosabWo ukve saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebul rezoluciebSi wers da<br />
migviTiTebs, rom gadadiT proporciul sistemazeo. amas garda, yvela<br />
mudmivad axsenebs "ocnebas", rom dRevandeli sistemis gauqmeba maTi<br />
winasaarCevno dapireba iyo 2012 wels~<br />
ekuTvnis?!. „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
pasuxi sruliad aradamajerebelia,<br />
magram mainc pasuxia, da ai,<br />
rogori: pirvel adgilze gasul<br />
partias, miuxedavad imisa, gadalaxa<br />
Tu ara man 50%-iani zRurbli,<br />
unda mieces saSualeba (am<br />
SemTxvevaSi damatebuli mandatebiT)<br />
daakompleqtos umravlesoba.<br />
„ocnebaSi” fiqroben, rom ar-<br />
Cevnebis Semdeg, Tu verc erTma<br />
partiam ver moagrova umravlesoba<br />
da saWiro gaxda saparlamento<br />
koaliciis Camoyalibeba sxva<br />
partiasTan, esaa ara demokratiis<br />
realuri gamovlineba, aramed<br />
katastrofa, qveynis daRupva da<br />
a. S. ukve meramdened, xelisufleba<br />
sakuTar Tavs ewinaaRmdeba.<br />
roca prezidentis pirdapiri wesiT<br />
arCeviTobaze gvesaubreba,<br />
gvimtkicebs, es imitomaa saWiro,<br />
rom klasikur saparlamento modelze<br />
unda gadavideTo. magram es<br />
klasikuri saparlamento modeli<br />
arCevnebis Semdeg, koaliciuri<br />
umravlesobisa da mTavrobis Camoyalibebasac<br />
rom iTvaliswinebs<br />
xolme, aviwydebaT, an Segnebulad<br />
iviwyeben.<br />
e. i. mTeli evropuli, saparlamento<br />
praqtika damRupveli yofila.<br />
koaliciebis SeqmniT evropeli<br />
politikosebi, Turme, ki ar<br />
aviTareben, aramed Rupaven TavianT<br />
qveynebs. ar daijerebT da<br />
„ocnebaSi” marTla arian iseTi<br />
adamianebi, romlebic zustad ase<br />
fiqroben evropul demokratiaze.<br />
„ocnebis” gundSi Semavalma<br />
„radikal maJoritarTa” frTam<br />
erTgvari analizi moamzada imisa,<br />
Tu rogori kargia maJoritaruli<br />
sistema da rogori cudia<br />
proporciuli. am analiziT didxans<br />
ar gadagRliT, ubralod, misi<br />
pirveli gverdis pirvel winanadadebas<br />
gagacnobT. analizis avtori<br />
SesavalSi ambobs:<br />
„qveynis stabiluri ganviTarebisTvis<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania<br />
politikuri Zalebis swori da<br />
dabalansebuli koncentracia.<br />
proporciuli saarCevno sistema<br />
ki aRniSnulis Semaferxebel faqtors<br />
warmoadgens da amis TvalsaCino<br />
magaliTia fineTi, belgia,<br />
CexeTi, israeli, espaneTi da sxva<br />
qveynebi”(!).<br />
ras vizamT, arian adamianebi,<br />
romlebic fiqroben, rom fineTsa<br />
da israelSi politikuri Zalebis<br />
balansi darRveulia, samagierod,<br />
CvenTan yvelaferi kargadaa.<br />
ufro zustad, maradiuli ma-<br />
JoritarebisTvisaa yvelaferi kargad<br />
da am maradiuli parlamentarobis<br />
dakargva adardebT mxolod.<br />
rac Seexeba maJoritarul sistemas<br />
da, zogadad, maJoritarizms,<br />
aravin saubrobs imaze, rom<br />
es sistema erTmniSvnelovnad cudia<br />
da miuRebeli. amas veravin<br />
ityvis. maJoritaruli sistema<br />
moqmedebs SeerTebul StatebSi,<br />
inglisSi da kidev uamrav qveyanaSi,<br />
magram arsad ar xdeba is,<br />
rac xdeba CvenTan. arsad is partia,<br />
romelic amomrCevlis 48%-s<br />
iRebs, ar Sedis parlamentSi 78%-<br />
iT. warmoudgenelia nebismieri<br />
civilizebuli qveynisTvis, rom<br />
partiam, romelmac umravlesobisTvis<br />
saWiro 50%-ic ki ver<br />
daagrova, parlamentSi sakonstitucio<br />
umravlesobiT aRmoCndes.<br />
es yvelaferi mxolod saqarTveloSia<br />
SesaZlebeli, sadac erTpalatiani<br />
parlamenti gvaqvs Sereuli<br />
saarCeevo sistemiT, 77<br />
proporciuli da 73 maJoritari<br />
deputatiT. ar aqvs mmarTvel<br />
gunds amomrCevelTa umravlesobis<br />
mxardaWera? ra problemaa...<br />
ager ar arian maJoritarebi? maTi<br />
meSveobiT yovelTvis geyoleba<br />
saparlamento umravlesoba,<br />
xolo Tu Sublis ZarRvsac gaiwyvet,<br />
ise rogorc es „ocnebam” qna<br />
bolo arCevnebze, yvela maJoritarsac<br />
moigeb da sakonstitucio<br />
umravlesobasac daiTrev. ai, esaa<br />
maJoritaruli sistemis qarTuli<br />
gansakuTrebuloba. esaa is naklovaneba,<br />
romlis gamoc, ukve,<br />
wlebia, usamarTlo saarCevno garemo<br />
gvaqvs. aseTi sistemis gamo<br />
dakarges adamianebma saarCevno<br />
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`politikur kuluarebSi xma gavrcelda, rom `ocneba~ proporciul<br />
sistemaze gadasvlas mxolod 2024 wlisTvis gegmavso. es Tu simarTlea, am<br />
Temaze saubars xelisuflebasTan, saerTod, azri ekargeba. amiT `ocnebis~<br />
pozicia kidev ufro gaugebari xdeba. Tu xedav, rom proporciuli sistema<br />
ufro samarTliania da qveynis ganviTarebas is ufro waadgeba, ratom<br />
gadagaqvs Svidi wlis mere? da Tu fiqrob, rom ar varga da ar gamogadgeba,<br />
Svidi wlis merec rad ginda? Zalauneburad giCndeba eWvi, morig<br />
eSmakobasTan xom ar gvaqvs saqme? rCeba SegrZneba, rom xelisufleba<br />
pasuxismgeblobis oponentebze akidebas cdilobs~<br />
procesisadmi ndoba. amitomacaa,<br />
rom yvela revolucia Tu areuloba<br />
arCevnebs ukavSirdeba.<br />
adamianebi xedaven, rom arCevnebiT<br />
araferi icvleba, icvleba<br />
mxolod kombliT, quCiT da<br />
revoluciiT. amitomac davdivarT<br />
mudmivad am wreze da verc<br />
vxvdebiT, raa Sesacvleli. raxan<br />
demokratia avirCieT, maSin xelisuflebasac<br />
da xalxsac unda<br />
esmodes, rom xelisuflebis mTavari<br />
wyaro xalxia. anu xalxi iZleva<br />
Zalauflebas da akeTebs amas<br />
arCevnebis gziT. normalur qveyanaSi<br />
adamianma icis, rom miva ar-<br />
Cevnebze, gamoxatavs Tavis nebas<br />
da Tu xelisufleba moswons, mas<br />
datovebs, xolo Tu ar moswons,<br />
gadairCevs. aseT dros aravis<br />
uCndeba protesti da quCaSi gamosvlis<br />
survili. aseT dros adamianebi<br />
mSvidad da moTminebiT<br />
elian arCevnebs da darwmunebulni<br />
arian, rom arCevnebis dRes<br />
swored isini gadawyveten, vis mianiWon<br />
Zalaufleba. sanam qarTvel<br />
ers samarTliani arCevnebis<br />
mimarT aseTi rwmena ar gauCndeba,<br />
mSvidobaze ocnebac zedmetia.<br />
da romel mSvidobazea saubari,<br />
roca saqarTveloSi oc weliwadze<br />
metia, yvelani sapirispiros<br />
vxedavT? anu vxedavT, rom amomrCevelTa<br />
umravlesobis mier gamoxatuli<br />
neba arasdros emTxveva<br />
parlamentSi sabolood Camoyalibebul<br />
suraTs. amomrCeveli<br />
xedavs, rom rogori arCevanic ar<br />
unda gaakeTos amomrCevelTa umravlesobam,<br />
parlamentSic da sakrebuloSic<br />
imarjvebs is, visac<br />
amomrCevelTa umciresobam dau-<br />
Wira mxari.<br />
magaliTebi sakmarisze meti<br />
gvaqvs: 2008 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebze „nacionalebma” 59%<br />
miiRes, magram maJoritaruli sistemis<br />
wyalobiT parlamentSi<br />
80%-iT Sevidnen; maSin roca unda<br />
hyolodaT 88 deputati da mxolod<br />
saparlamento umravlesoba,<br />
hyavdaT 120 deputati da sakonstitucio<br />
umravlesoba. saboloo<br />
jamSi, am usamarTlo saarCevno<br />
sistemis bralia is uamravi<br />
absurduli sakonstitucio<br />
cvlileba, romlis meSveobiTac<br />
saakaSvili, praqtikulad, monarqi<br />
gaxda. igive moxda 2014 wlis<br />
adgilobriv arCevnebze. „ocnebam”<br />
TbilisSi amomrCevlis mxolod<br />
44% miiRo, magram maJoritarebis<br />
meSveobiT mandatebis 76% miisakuTra.<br />
da yvelaze TvalsaCino<br />
magaliTi: 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebia. „ocnebam” xmebis<br />
mxolod 48% miiRo, anu saparlamento<br />
umravlesobisTvisac ki<br />
arasakmarisi raodenoba, magram<br />
yvela maJoritaris mogebiT (es<br />
Sublis ZarRvis gawyvetis Sesani-<br />
Snavi magaliTia) mandatebis 78%<br />
miiTvisa. Sedegad umciresobiT<br />
mxardaWerilma partiam sakonstitucio<br />
umravlesoba Seqmna.<br />
aseTi magaliTebis Semxedvares,<br />
aRar giCndeba kiTxvebi, ratom<br />
aqvs qarTvel ers arCevnebisadmi<br />
amxela undobloba. am undoblobas<br />
da ukmayofilebas<br />
aRviveben Tavad es xavsmodebuli<br />
maJoritarebi, romlebic wlebia,<br />
deputatis mandats yiduloben<br />
da erTmaneTs mxolod imaSi ejibrebian,<br />
vin mexuTedaa maJoritari<br />
da vin _ meeqvsed, saqmes ki<br />
arc erTi akeTebs. umetesoba maTgani<br />
sxdomebzec ar dadis, mikrofonTan<br />
misvlaze xom saerTod<br />
zedmetia saubari. maT absolutur<br />
umravlesobas amomrCevlebi<br />
ar icnoben, radgan arCevis Semdeg<br />
aravis unaxavs Tavis saarCevno<br />
olqSi. ikiTxavT, albaT, rogor<br />
axerxeben aseTi adamianebi<br />
maJoritarul arCevnebSi gamarjvebaso?..<br />
rogor da Zalian martivad:<br />
erTma saarCevno olqma er-<br />
Ti maJoritari unda airCios, amitom<br />
xelisufleba, umetes SemTxvevaSi,<br />
cdilobs, rom maJoritarobis<br />
kandadatad finansurad Se-<br />
Zlebuli adamiani SearCios, upiratesoba<br />
eniWebaT biznesmenebs.<br />
aseTi kandidatebi Tavis saarCevno<br />
kampanias Tavadve daafinanseben<br />
da xelisuflebis jibes tvir-<br />
Tad ar daawvebian. es biznesmenebi,<br />
ZiriTadad, Tbilisidan igzavnebian<br />
raionebSi. sakmarisia, am<br />
raionTan warmoSoba mainc akavSirebdeT.<br />
xelisuflebis kandidatebs,<br />
yvela Tavis konkurentTan<br />
mimarTebiT, kampaniis dawyebidanve<br />
15-20-procentiani upiratesoba<br />
aqvs. finansebs rom SeveSvaT,<br />
maT ukan uzarmazari administraciuli<br />
resursi dgas: esaa guberniebi,<br />
gamgeobebi, samxareo policiebi,<br />
skolebi, saarCevno administraciebi<br />
da a. S. yvela sabiujeto<br />
dawesebuleba. da rac mTavaria,<br />
specsamsaxurebi, romlebic<br />
yovelTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovan<br />
samuSaos asruleben arCevnebSi.<br />
aseTi upiratesobiT Znelia,<br />
ar moigo, xolo imasac Tu<br />
davamatebT, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
amomrCeveli xSirad xaTriT iZleva<br />
xmas, ubralod, SeuZlebelia<br />
(Tumca gamonaklisi SemTxvevebi<br />
mainc gvinaxavs).<br />
aseTi usamarTlo meTodebiT<br />
gamarjvebuli maJoritarebis mimarT<br />
ukmayofilebas, Tavis<br />
droze, TviT biZina ivaniSvilic<br />
ver malavda. igi maT „feodalebs”<br />
uwodebda, rac saarCevno sistemis<br />
cvlilebis imeds aCenda, magram<br />
molodini mcdari aRmoCnda.<br />
rogorc ki biZinamac da mTelma<br />
„ocnebamac” dainaxa, rom reitingi<br />
katastrofulad dauvardaT,<br />
gadarCenis erTaderT gzad isev<br />
maJoritaruli sistemis Senar-<br />
Cuneba gadawyvites.<br />
avad Tu kargad, dRemde movaRwieT,<br />
magram ukve „ocnebaSic”<br />
xvdebian, rom mudmivad ase gagr-<br />
Zeleba ar SeiZleba. miT umetes,<br />
rom ukve yvela am saarCevno sistemis<br />
Secvlas iTxovs. iTxoven<br />
politikuri partiebi, iTxoven<br />
arasamTavroboebi da rac Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovania, iTxoven saerTa-<br />
Soriso organizaciebi. evrosab-<br />
Wo ukve saqarTvelosTan dakav-<br />
Sirebul rezoluciebSi wers da<br />
migviTiTebs, rom gadadiT proporciul<br />
sistemazeo. amas garda,<br />
yvela mudmivad axsenebs „ocnebas”,<br />
rom dRevandeli sistemis<br />
gauqmeba maTi winasaarCevno dapireba<br />
iyo 2012 wels.<br />
da, ai, rogorc iqna, xelisuflebas<br />
sanukvari fraza aRmoxda:<br />
„gTavazobT, gadavideT proporciul<br />
sistemaze”. neta ki aq daesrulebina<br />
da ar eTqva, rom yvela<br />
gadaunawilebeli mandati mainc<br />
me unda waviRoo. rogorc Cans,<br />
„ocnebaSi” ver xvdebian, rom usamarTlobis<br />
usamarTlobiT Canacvleba<br />
Sedegs ar iZleva. usamar-<br />
Tloba rCeba da mSvidobasac kvlav<br />
safrTxe emuqreba.<br />
xelisuflebis mier Tavisive<br />
iniciativis gaufasureba amiT ar<br />
dasrulebula. politikur kuluarebSi<br />
xma gavrcelda, rom „ocneba”<br />
proporciul sistemaze gadasvlas<br />
mxolod 2024 wlisTvis<br />
gegmavso. es Tu simarTlea, am Temaze<br />
saubars xelisuflebasTan,<br />
saerTod, azri ekargeba. amiT<br />
„ocnebis” pozicia ki kidev ufro<br />
gaugebari xdeba. Tu xedav, rom<br />
proporciuli sistema ufro samarTliania<br />
da qveynis ganviTarebas<br />
is ufro waadgeba, ratom gadagaqvs<br />
Svidi wlis mere? da Tu<br />
fiqrob, rom ar varga da ar gamogadgeba,<br />
Svidi wlis merec rad<br />
ginda?<br />
Zalauneburad giCndeba eWvi,<br />
morig eSmakobasTan xom ar gvaqvs<br />
saqme? rCeba SegrZneba, rom xelisufleba<br />
pasuxismgeblobis<br />
oponentebze akidebas cdilobs.<br />
„ar gindaT Cemi SemoTavazebuli,<br />
proporciuli sistema, maSin<br />
avdgebi da maJoritaruls davtoveb”.<br />
es xelisufleba aseTi ramis<br />
mTqmeli rom aris, imave sakonstitucio<br />
sxdomaze gamoCnda,<br />
roca margvelaSvilis gancxadebebiT<br />
ganawyenebuli umravlesoba<br />
daimuqra, Tu gavbrazdiT, prezidentis<br />
pirdapiri wesiT arCeva<br />
2023-Si ki ara, momaval welsve<br />
gavauqmebTo. amis Semdeg vis gaukvirdeba,<br />
rom proporciul sistemaze<br />
gadausvleloba „ocnebam”<br />
opozicias gadaabralos.<br />
isic gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom<br />
saparlamento umravlesoba mudmivad<br />
apelirebs Tavissave maJoritarebze<br />
da gvafrTxilebs, _ ar<br />
dagaviwydeT, rom maJoritarebi<br />
proporciul sistemas mxars ar<br />
uWereno. SegaxsenebT: 150-kacian<br />
parlamentSi 73 maJoritari zis<br />
da Tu maT sakonstitucio cvlilebas<br />
mxari ar dauWires, proeqti<br />
ver gava. ase rom, „ocnebaSi”<br />
roca moundebaT, maJoritarebis<br />
karts maSin gaaTamaSeben. Tumca<br />
rogorac ar unda fiqrobdnen ma-<br />
Joritarebi, yvelas kargad moexseneba,<br />
rom saparlamento umravlesobaSi<br />
myofi 117-ve deputati<br />
ise moiqceva, rogorc amas biZina<br />
ivaniSvili gadawyvets. Sesabamisad,<br />
raoden sagangaSodac ar unda<br />
JRerdes, saarCevno sistemis bedic<br />
erTi adamianis xelSia.<br />
xelisuflebis daTqmebi da<br />
moTxovnebi arc amiT amowurula.<br />
proporciuli sistemis sanacvlod,<br />
xelisufleba aseve iTxovs<br />
saarCevno blokebis akrZalvas,<br />
anu „ocneba”, romelic xelisuflebaSi<br />
blokiT movida, dRes<br />
blokebisa da koaliciebis akrZalvas<br />
iTxovs. saqarTvelos uaxles<br />
istorias Tu gadavxedavT,<br />
yvela xelisufleba xelisuflebaSi<br />
blokiT movida. rogorc<br />
Cans, „ocneba” SiSma Seipyro da<br />
guli uskdeba, rom masac partiebisgan<br />
Seqmnili axali bloki<br />
CamoaSorebs xelisuflebas. amitomac<br />
gadawyvites, Tavi daizRvion<br />
da blokebisa da koaliciebis<br />
Seqmna konstituciiT akrZalon.<br />
mizezad ki imas asaxeleben, rom<br />
partiebis ganviTarebas unda SevuwyoT<br />
xelio. anu erTmaneTs<br />
Seerwyan da gaZlierdebiano. es<br />
Tu aseTi progresuli da qveynisTvis<br />
sasargeblo qmedeba iyo,<br />
ratom ar Seerwynen TavianTi koaliciis<br />
wevrebs, gaugebaria.<br />
yvela im qveyanaSi, sadac blokebi<br />
akrZalulia da arCevnebSi<br />
partiebi mxolod individualurad<br />
monawileoben, saarCevno barieri<br />
an ar arsebobs, an Zalian mcirea.<br />
es imisTvisaa saWiro, rom<br />
politikuri partiebi saerTod<br />
ar gaqrnen da maTi optimaluri<br />
raodenoba, anu sazogadoebis<br />
mier met-naklebad mxardaWerili<br />
partiebi, parlamentSi Sesvlas<br />
axerxebdnen. es, sul mcire, imisTvisaa<br />
saWiro, rom politikuri<br />
brZola mxolod sakanonmdeblo<br />
organoSi mimdinareobdes da ara<br />
_ quCaSi. anu qveynis stabilurobisTvis<br />
da mdgradobisTvisaa<br />
saWiro. „ocneba” ki gvTavazobs<br />
blokebis gauqmebas barieris dawevis<br />
gareSe. es ki, martivad, rom<br />
avxsnaT, niSnavs: parlamentSi mudam<br />
unda viyoT Cven, „ocneba” da<br />
Cveni komfortuli opozicia „nacmoZraoba”.<br />
imavdroulad, yvela<br />
gadaunawilebeli mandati Cven<br />
unda waviRoT da mudam umravlesobaSi<br />
unda viyoT. yvela danar-<br />
Cenma ki taSi dagvikariT, radgan<br />
Tqveni moTxovna SevasruleT da<br />
proporciul sistemas mxari davuWireTo.<br />
ai, es aris is, rasac xelisufleba<br />
danarCen qveyanas sTavazobs.<br />
erTi mankieri da danaSaulebrivi<br />
sistemis meoriT Canacvlebas.<br />
dabolos, saarCevno sistemis<br />
cvlilebas maRali politikuri<br />
konsensusi sWirdeba. amis gareSe<br />
arc erTi saerTaSoriso organizacia,<br />
pirvel rigSi, veneciis komisia,<br />
pozitiur Sefasebas mas ar<br />
miscems. qveyanaSi ki isev dapirispireba<br />
iqneba saarCevno garemosTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, xolo sazogadoebaSi<br />
arCevnebis SedegebTan<br />
mimarTebiT kvlav undobloba<br />
iarsebebs.<br />
ase rom, ar iqneba samarTlianoba,<br />
ar iqneba mSvidoba!!!<br />
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undaT.<br />
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sufTa var. rogor SeZlebda<br />
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Sinia da arc ukan dasaxevi maqvs.<br />
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_ levan Sonias konkretuli<br />
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mrgval<br />
magidasTan ar<br />
dajdeba, umZimes<br />
braldebebs<br />
dokumenturad<br />
davumtkiceb~<br />
znesmeni, romelic adgilze<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” Stabs xelm-<br />
ZRvanelobda, _ red.), Tavis moadgiles.<br />
kaxa rusia kaxi kalaZis warmomadgenelia<br />
da amaSi danaSauls<br />
ver vxedav, magram Sonia<br />
ambobda, rusia kalaZem Semomtenao.<br />
es levan Soniam miTxra:<br />
erTi naxevari weli ki vajanjle,<br />
mainc daminiSnes, magram<br />
axlos ar vikareb, Zalian kargad<br />
vici, vinc ariso. imasac<br />
uTxra, rom senakis maJoritari<br />
levan Sonia<br />
Txovnelad samegreloSi Tbilisidan,<br />
me maSin aravisTan mivsulvar...<br />
biZinas CemTan urTierToba<br />
unda hqonoda, magram viRacam<br />
es ver aitana. me mainc gazeTiT<br />
mivmarTavdi da saqmis kursSi<br />
vayenebdi, rasac aq akeTebdnen<br />
as Robes gadamxtari daportirebuli<br />
„nacionalebi”.<br />
ambavi miutanes, miSas bodiSs<br />
uxdiso, ra vTqvi araswori?<br />
iqneb, bodiSi gagvixdes mosaxdeli<br />
miSasTvis-meTqi da<br />
marTalic vTqvi:<br />
Tuki damnaSaveebs datovebdnen,<br />
iseTebs daabrunebdnen,<br />
2008-Si rom gaagdes kaci, saqarTveloSi<br />
rom ver CamoesvlebodaT,<br />
devnilebis fuli rom<br />
Wames, mere „nacionalebma” rom<br />
gayares, aseT xalxs Tu daniSnavdnen<br />
yvela sferoSi da damnaSaveebs<br />
Tu datovebdnen da<br />
samarTlianoba Tu ar aRdgeboda,<br />
maSin ra azri hqonda? amitomac<br />
vTqvi, rom iqneb, miSas-<br />
Tan bodiSi gvqondes mosaxdeli-meTqi<br />
da amas sul vityvi...<br />
Zalian vnanob, rom me odes-<br />
Rac levan Sonias vedeqi gverdiT.<br />
Sonias aq ar aqvs avtoriteti,<br />
magram ar vici, es xelisufleba<br />
ratom icavs. gamoasworon<br />
es Secdoma da mogvaSoron<br />
es kaci.<br />
rac levan Soniam danaSauli<br />
Caidina, is me rom gamekeTebina,<br />
cimbirSi gamiSvebdnen...<br />
_ TviTon gubernatorTan<br />
Sexvedra ar gicdiaT? miT<br />
umetes, icnobdiT da gverdi-<br />
Tac edeqiT, rogorc ambobT...<br />
_ ar micdia, magram Tqveni<br />
gazeTis meSveobiT levan Sonias<br />
minda, mivmarTo: kidev erT<br />
Sanss vaZlev, rom mrgval magidas<br />
mivusxdeT, davuZaxoT yvelas<br />
_ samegrelos regionuli<br />
sus-is ufross, „ocnebis” centraluri<br />
ofisidan warmomadgenels,<br />
„ocnebis” deputats,<br />
samegrelos yvela raionis deputats,<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomareebs<br />
da malaparakos pirdapir<br />
yvela detali imis Sesaxeb,<br />
2012 wlidan dawyebuli, roca<br />
Sonia samxareo policiaSi movida,<br />
dRemde rom gubernatoria<br />
_ Cems gakeTebul saqmeze, Cems<br />
Tavdadebaze da iman ilaparakos<br />
Tavis damsaxurebaze. dajdes da<br />
melaparakos vaJkacurad, iq<br />
gairkveva, ra gaukeTebia...<br />
muxlze dawerili informaciebi<br />
rom gadis zugdididan,<br />
policielebi amboben (bevri<br />
TanamSromlisgan vici), rom<br />
muxlze viwerT informacias,<br />
magidas da skams Cven vin gvaRirsebso<br />
da aseTi informacia<br />
rom gadis zugdididan, imitom<br />
gvaqvs saqme kargad...<br />
_ rogor ggoniaT, ratom<br />
unda dagTanxmdeT am Sexve-<br />
draze gubernatori?<br />
_ Tu levan Sonia amas ar<br />
izams, maSin me sajarod vilaparakeb<br />
Cems simarTleze da<br />
furclebs avafrialeb.<br />
Tu im mrgval magidasTan<br />
saubari Sedgeba, iqac davamtkiceb<br />
Cems simarTles, pirdapir<br />
davadgebi tabaRuaze, ruzgen<br />
Cuxuazec...<br />
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ezo SatakiSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
xom gaxsovT sulxan-sabas „glaxaki da qila erbo”? Tu ar<br />
gaxsovT, problema araa, gasul kviras mainc naxavdiT mis Tanamedrove<br />
versias, warmodgenils qibarisa da qila erbos sax-<br />
iT. diax, yvelaferi ise iyo, rogorc sulxan-sabas uweria.<br />
Seikriba uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
9 mosamarTle. SeisunTqes da<br />
erTxmad, erTi amosunTqviT, „rusTavi<br />
2" miakuTvnes qibar xalvaSs.<br />
qibarmac hpova ra es qila erbo,<br />
ise rom gadawyvetilebac ar aeRo,<br />
aiRo es qila erbo, sakidarSi<br />
joxi gauyara da mxarze Seido. gaudga<br />
gzas da daiwyo xmamaRla ocneba,<br />
_ Tu rogor gaunawilebs wilebs<br />
aqimiZes da dvals, rogor<br />
daniSnavs direqtorad dvals. am<br />
ocneba-ocnebaSi muStaric gamou-<br />
Cndeba, gvaramia SesTavazebs, _<br />
„rusTavi 2" koleqtivs mihyideo.<br />
qibari, romelic araa qibari da<br />
aris biZina, qila erbos SeaTamaSebs,<br />
_ gvaramia ar aris gvaramia,<br />
gvaramia miSaa, Torem mivyididio<br />
da ocnebas ganagrZobs.<br />
situacia marTlac rom dramatuli<br />
iqneba qveyanaSi _ ra ginda,<br />
rom qna? Zala aRmarTs xnavs _<br />
uzenaesma instanciam qveyanaSi<br />
pluralizmis erTaderTi garanti<br />
aiRo da unamusod miakuTvna qveynis<br />
araformaluri mmarTvelis<br />
„kliCkad” qceul qibar xalvaSs.<br />
qveyanas unda am monapovris dacva,<br />
magram rogor? ramden xans<br />
uyarauleb telekompanias ezoSi?<br />
ra garantiaa, rom arc SeiWran iq,<br />
axali menejmenti arc Seva, ise gadaibarebs<br />
yvela berkets da moqmedi<br />
menejmenti ras izams? ramden<br />
xans gaZlebs kompania sabanko<br />
angariSebis, saxsrebis gareSe,<br />
romc ar gauTiSon mauwyebloba?<br />
sadaa gamosavali, quCis aqciebSi?<br />
sxva gza marTlac ar rCeba, magram<br />
am quCis aqciebiTac rogor ginda,<br />
rom rame Secvalo? ra berketiT,<br />
ra meqanizmiT? im dResve iyo<br />
naxsenebi strasburgis sasamarTlo,<br />
magram gaiTvaliswinebdi ra<br />
mis xangrZliv procedurebs... isev<br />
sasowarkveTa dageufleboda. swored<br />
am procedurebis xangrZlivobiT<br />
daimedebulma gadahkra ivaniSvilmac<br />
im Rames stafilos na-<br />
Juri da kmayofilma misca Zili im<br />
lamaz sizmrebs, sadac koSmarad<br />
aRar Caesmoda cxriani kurieris<br />
mauwyebeli hangebi.<br />
magram ra moxda? moxda sruliad<br />
uprecedento ram. qibara da<br />
biZina rom hari-haris iZaxdnen da<br />
joxi gaiqnies _ qoTani gatyda da<br />
erbo daiqca. strasburgis morige<br />
mosamarTlem oligarqs da mis<br />
qibaras sulxan-sabas Segoneba<br />
styorcna strasburgidan:<br />
„Senc Senis gonebiT bevrs rasme<br />
zraxav da gamdidrdebi, magram<br />
aseTi ram gagizraxavs, rome Rv-<br />
Tis ZaliT Sens Tavsac mohSli,<br />
aramc Tu ganzraxuli gaaTao”.<br />
strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa<br />
sasamarTlom uprecedento<br />
gadawyvetileba gamoitana da safuZveli<br />
Cauyara axal precedents.<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlom<br />
SeaCera uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
aRsruleba da saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebas aukrZala,<br />
pirdapir mosTxova, ar ganaxorcielos<br />
aranairi RonisZieba,<br />
nebismieri formiT, ra formiTac<br />
ar unda iyos es, romelic gamoiwvevda<br />
saredaqcio politikis<br />
Secvlas. da rac mTavaria, prioriteti<br />
mianiWa am saqmis ganxilvas.<br />
strasburgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />
imdenad Sokis momgvreli<br />
iyo, mTeli qveyana brinjiviT<br />
daibna _ aravin eloda<br />
gadawyvetilebis ase uecrad gamotanas<br />
da Tan aseT gadawyvetilebas.<br />
xalvaSis advokatma saliam<br />
xelebi gaasavsava, uprecedento<br />
SemTxvevaa, Tu aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo, jer kidev darwmunebuli<br />
ar var, sanam ar vnaxavo.<br />
ase swrafad strasburgs arasodes<br />
miuRia gadawyvetileba qonebriv<br />
davasTan dakavSirebiT erovnuli<br />
sasamarTlos saboloo gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sesaxebo.<br />
ki iyo dabneuli salia, magram<br />
ar tyuoda. strasburgs marTlac<br />
arasodes miuRia ase swrafad<br />
gadawyvetileba qonebriv davaze,<br />
magram saqmec is iyo, rom es saqme<br />
arc miuCnevia qonebriv davad.<br />
krintic ar dauZravs arc qonebriv<br />
davaze, arc sakuTrebis uflebaze.<br />
aqcenti gakeTda mxolod<br />
gamoxatvis, presis Tavisuflebaze<br />
da saredaqcio politikaSi Caurevlobaze.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, strasburgs<br />
arc presis Tavisuflebis<br />
konteqstSi gamoutania aqamde ase<br />
swrafi gadawyvetileba _ romelime<br />
qveynis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />
Sesaxeb. aseT zomas<br />
gamonaklisis saxiT iSviaTad mimarTavs<br />
mxolod maSin, roca saqme<br />
exeba sicocxles, wamebas, deportacias.<br />
evropam presis, gamoxatvis<br />
Tavisufleba sicocxlis uflebas<br />
gautola da amiT aris uprecedento.<br />
mere ra, rom am uprecedento<br />
gadawyvetilebas TviT wulukiani<br />
ebrdRvna da cxens rom veraferi<br />
daaklo, unagirs dauwyo jajguri<br />
_ morige mosamarTlem miiRo erTpirovnuli<br />
gadawyvetileba, ise<br />
rom arc araferi gamouTxovia<br />
Cvengan da arc ukiTxavso.<br />
zviad kvaWantiraZem bevri ifiqra,<br />
qoSi rom ar macvia, ukuRma<br />
rogor vyaroo da nona woworias<br />
ebdRvna. mas daabrales yvelaferi,<br />
eg awyobs saqmeebso. ufro<br />
sworad ki, woworias imazed dascxes,<br />
rom ver mougvara saqme im<br />
morige mosamarTlesTan.<br />
egeni ar Sedian arc qveynis da<br />
arc Cvens mdgomareobaSi da isev<br />
Cven unda SevideT. dameTanxmeT,<br />
rom maTTvis marTlac umZimesi<br />
gadasaxarSi iyo, rac Tavs daatydaT.<br />
egonaT, yvelaferi moagvarmoayomares,<br />
„rusTavi 2" sabolood<br />
aaxies yaramanaSvilebs _<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
aTasjer gayiduli kompaniis ke-<br />
Tilsindisier myidvelebs da uceb<br />
Tavs daatydaT evropis risxva.<br />
evropis risxvis Tavs datexamde<br />
iyo amerikis elCis gancxadeba, axla<br />
amas mohyva aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />
departamentis angariSi, sadac yuradRebis<br />
centrSi swored „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is saqme moeqca, Tanac xelisuflebis<br />
mimarT sakmaod mwvave<br />
SefasebebiT, metic: am angariS-<br />
Si Tavi amoyo TviTon yofilma<br />
premier-ministrma ivaniSvilmac.<br />
aSS-s saxelmwifo departamentis<br />
angariSSi moxvedra rasac ni-<br />
Snavs, miT ufro maSin, roca rame<br />
gabadia gasayini, yvelasTvis naTelia.<br />
biZinas Tu gauyinaven, Torem<br />
me gind Semitane, gind gamomitane,<br />
„sadias” qaTams Tu gamiyinav „marazilkaSi”.<br />
biZinasTvisac Soki iyo, qibarasTvisac,<br />
romelic troleibusiviT<br />
win da ukan dadis germaniidan<br />
saqarTveloSi, egona, gzas baraqa<br />
daayena, qila daemtvra da erbo<br />
daeqca. da marto qibars daemtvra?<br />
vin wils eloda, vin direqtorobas<br />
da vis kidev ukve „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is Jurnalisti da wamyvani<br />
egona Tavi? vin icis, ramdenma naxa<br />
im RamiT sizmarSi Tavi „rusTavi<br />
2"-is mikrofoniT xelSi?<br />
axla imaT ar ikiTxavT, visac<br />
dRevandeli „rusTavi 2" ar swyalobda<br />
da milocvebi daiwyes<br />
qibarTan, im imediT, rom mere mainc<br />
gaixsneboda maTTvis „rusTavi<br />
2"-is ekrani? da ramdenma qna igive,<br />
visac diaxac rom swyalobs da<br />
zedmetadac swyalobs dRevandeli<br />
„rusTavi 2"? CaTvales, amaTi<br />
dro wavidao da miegebnen axal patrons<br />
da mwyalobels da uceb es<br />
strasburgi!<br />
gadaWarbebuli ar iqneba Tu<br />
vityviT, rom es yvelaferi am xelisuflebisTvisac,<br />
misi momxreebisTvisac<br />
da am kompaniis axali<br />
patronis xelSi gadasvliT merkantilurad<br />
dainteresebulebisTvisac<br />
cis Camoqceva iyo.<br />
axla xavss eWidebian, rom 8<br />
marts es SeCereba SeCerdeba da<br />
saqmis ganxilvis dasrulebamde<br />
aRar gagrZeldeba. wulukians imedi<br />
aqvs, rom kolegiurad sxva<br />
gadawyvetilebas miiReben.<br />
unda, isev Cven gavugoT, ra<br />
qnan, aba, xarakirs xom ar gaikeTeben?<br />
sikvdilamde vis mouklavs<br />
Tavi kacsa mecniersa?<br />
sxvebi ufro Sors wavidnen da<br />
qibari da qila erbo<br />
im morige mosamarTlis TviTnebobaze<br />
alaparakdnen. zogma lamis<br />
abjari aisxa da strasburgSi<br />
gaiqca im mosamarTlis asaCexad.<br />
gamoCndnen samarTlis doqtorebic,<br />
romlebic beselias registr-<br />
Si gahkivian, rom im mosamarTlem<br />
xelyo saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
avtoriteti (aseTic<br />
hqonia, Turme, nu ityviT), imitom<br />
rom SeCereba ise daudgenia, rom<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba arc<br />
gamouTxovia. metic, im mosamar-<br />
Tlem, Turme, Cveni suverenitetic<br />
xelyo da Cvens Sinaur saqmeeb-<br />
Si Caeria, qonebrivi dava TviTneburad<br />
gadaiyvana politikur formatSi.<br />
araerT aseT sasowarkveTil<br />
gancxadebas moismendiT am dReeb-<br />
Si, simwrisgan rom naperwklebi<br />
scvivaT. iseTi gaveSebiT lanZRaven<br />
strasburgs, evropas, ukve<br />
daaviwydaT, rom wina dRiT vizaliberalizacias<br />
zeimobdnen. evropaSi<br />
undaT, oRond gruzinulad,<br />
Tavisi wesebiT.<br />
ai, koba narCemaSvili ise aiWra,<br />
ukve imasRa ocnebobs, _ mTavaria,<br />
mxareTa uflebebi iyos absoluturad<br />
garantirebuli nebismier<br />
instanciaSio.<br />
mas mxareebad isev aqeT „rus-<br />
Tavi 2", yaramanaSvilebi da iqiT<br />
xalvaSi da imisi „panorama” hgonia.<br />
xalvaSi strasburgSi aRarafer<br />
SuaSia. iq mxareebi arian „rusTavi<br />
2" da is, vinc manamdec realurad<br />
iyo mxare am davaSi _ saxelmwifo.<br />
narCemaSvils ki ara, ager, saliasac<br />
isev mxare hgonia Tavi am<br />
saqmeSi. dgas da xavss eWideba, _<br />
mxolod ramdenime dRiT imitom<br />
SeCerda, rom strasburgi Cveni<br />
mxaris interessac iTvaliswinebso.<br />
ra ginda, rom qna?<br />
TviTon xalvaSi iseT Rrma<br />
tragizmSia, jerac ver gamorkveula<br />
da isev butbutebs, _ telekompaniaSi<br />
xarjebi gaberilia da<br />
imaze meti TanamSromelia, vidre<br />
saWiroao. kidev ver gaigo, rom<br />
erbo daeqca...<br />
Tina xidaSeli? jer kidev wina<br />
dRiT, vidre strasburgi verdiqts<br />
gamoitanda, kvlav Tavis<br />
Cvenebas awveboda, rom es or ker-<br />
Zo subieqts Soris qonebrivi<br />
davaa. gvamcnobda kidec, _ yaramanaSvilebs<br />
ver vigloveb, Tu ginda,<br />
CamqoleTo.<br />
Tinas Semxedvare, isev sulxansaba<br />
gagaxsendeboda, amjerad „ku<br />
da morieli”... ase daufasa amagi<br />
gvaramias da „rusTavi 2"-s. is yovelTvis<br />
iyo ganebivrebuli „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is yuradRebiT. kargad<br />
gaixseneT winasaarCevno periodi<br />
da kargad gamoTvaleT, imsaxurebda<br />
Tu ara misi partiis reitingi<br />
imxela yuradRebas, ramdenic<br />
hqonda? magram ra, daufasa? ityviT,<br />
ra, magis gamo simarTles xom<br />
ar Seaqcevda zurgso. magram sadaa<br />
simarTle? strasburgis gadawyvetilebis<br />
Semdeg? gamovida tyavis<br />
Savi xelTaTmanebiT, es tyavis<br />
xelTaTmanebi gaasavsava da gvamcno,<br />
strasburgma rom aseTi gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo, es sulac ar<br />
niSnavs, rom Cveni qveynis sasamarTloSi<br />
Rrma problemebia, ase-<br />
Ti gadawyvetilebebi sxva qveynis<br />
saqmeebzec gamoaqvT, aseTi rame<br />
yvela qveyanas emarTebao, britanel<br />
mosamarTleebsac eSlebaT<br />
xandaxan da amitomac arsebobs es<br />
sasamarTloo. ra Tqma unda, is<br />
ver uaryo, rom strasburgma sakuTrebis<br />
ufleba arc axsena, aqcenti<br />
presis Tavisuflebaze gaakeTa<br />
da axali precedenti Seqmna.<br />
isic gvibrZana, radgan SeCereba<br />
presis Tavisuflebis gamo gaake-<br />
Ta da ara sakuTrebis uflebis<br />
gamo, mosalodnelia, rom am SeCerebas<br />
gaagrZelebso. mokled, firfita<br />
aTamaSa, magram es yvelaferi<br />
kidev Jurnali iyo, kinoklasika is<br />
gaxldaT, Tu rogor gadatalRgadmotalRa<br />
Tavisi myari pozicia<br />
2 subieqts Soris davaze. axlac<br />
mimaCnia, rom es iyo 2 kerZo subieqts<br />
Soris dava da darwmunebuli<br />
viyavi, momCivnis damarcxebiT<br />
dasruldeboda, magram raki es<br />
sasamarTlo qibar xalvaSis gamarjvebiT<br />
dasrulda, adasturebs,<br />
rom es iyo xelisuflebis pozicia<br />
da amocanao. Turme, nu ityviT<br />
da wina instanciebi amaSi<br />
dasarwmuneblad sakmarisi ar iyo<br />
_ arc procesis mimdinareobiT da<br />
arc gamotanili gadawyvetilebebiT.<br />
ra ginda, rom Tqva?<br />
ager, prezidentad wodebulma<br />
margvelaSvilma ise Tqva, „rus-<br />
Tavi 2"-is gaCerebiT seriozul<br />
dartymas mivayenebT qarTul demokratiaso,<br />
gegoneba, am demokratias<br />
me vglije, an sxvam da ara<br />
misma daniSnulma qalbatonma<br />
gvenetaZem... niri mainc wagixdes<br />
cota, an, bolo-bolo, Tvali<br />
gageqces qsovisas...<br />
ager, qarafebidan ukan amomxtari<br />
Talagva kolonkeliZis gogo<br />
(lali baduraSvili) Cveuli rixiT<br />
gvamcnobda, bolos da bolos,<br />
xom unda miveCvioT sasamarTlo<br />
gadawyvetilebis damorCilebas,<br />
gvaramia vis dahkargvia, visac mitingi<br />
moundeba, imis Wkuaze unda<br />
iaros sasamarTlomo? axla Zalian<br />
maiteresebs misi mosazreba strasburgis<br />
gadawyvetilebaze. misi<br />
azri uaRresad mniSvnelovania. am<br />
daTo nikuraZes mainc ra daemar-<br />
Ta, mxolod saxelmwifo departamentisa<br />
da ialovecis mosazrebebs<br />
rom gvacnobs, Talagvas gogosac<br />
CaekiTxos, tyuilad amoxta qarafebidan?<br />
raki sulxan-saba ramdenjerme<br />
SevawuxeT, barem isic vTqvaT, rom<br />
unayofod sulac ar damaSvrala<br />
evropaSi siaruliT da misma Zalisxmevam<br />
axla namdvilad gamoiRo<br />
Sedegi da tyuilad egona baton<br />
biZinas, rom evropas saqarTvelo<br />
fexze hkidia. evropam aCvena, vinc<br />
hkidia da sad...<br />
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opoziciuri partiebis gancxadebiT,<br />
„rusTavi 2", _ erTader-<br />
Ti ZiriTadi, mTavrobis mimarT<br />
kritikuli, prodasavluri media<br />
saqarTveloSi _ qveynis de<br />
faqto mmarTvelis, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
mier miTvisebis zRvarzea.<br />
„rusTavi 2" iyo ukanaskneli<br />
didi media, romelic ar kontroldeboda<br />
yofili premierministris,<br />
ivaniSvilisa da<br />
partia „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
mier. 2<br />
marts, samoqalaqo<br />
protestis<br />
miuxedavad, saqarTvelos<br />
uzenaesma<br />
sasamarTlom<br />
daxurul kars miRma<br />
gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo, romliTac<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is<br />
mflobeloba miaku-<br />
Tvna qibar xalvaSs,<br />
ivaniSvilTan daaxloebul<br />
pirs da „qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis” deputatis<br />
Zmas.<br />
„rusTavi 2"-ze kontrolis<br />
damyarebiT ivaniSvili moipovebs<br />
politikur da sazogadoebriv<br />
cxovrebaze srul kontrols.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba,<br />
romelic dagmo yvelaze sando<br />
saerTaSoriso da adgilobrivi<br />
samoqalaqo organizaciebis umravlesobam,<br />
evrokavSiris mier<br />
saqarTvelosTvis vizaliberalizaciis<br />
miniWebis momdevno dResve<br />
miiRes. es gadawyvetileba<br />
aseve aris umZimesi dartyma sasamarTlos<br />
damoukideblobaze<br />
da ewinaaRmdegeba saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebis mier evrokavSir-<br />
Tan gaformebuli asocirebis<br />
xelSekrulebiT gaTvaliswinebul<br />
valdebulebebs. samive instanciis<br />
sasamarTlom ugulebelyo<br />
damoukidebeli da miuker-<br />
Zoebeli marTlmsajulebis principebi<br />
da marTlmsajuleba warmarTa<br />
mTavrobis agresiuli<br />
Carevis pirobebSi. unda aRiniSnos,<br />
rom pirveli instanciis<br />
sasamarTlom gadawyvetilebis<br />
mniSvnelovan faqtorad swored<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is saredaqcio politika<br />
daasaxela, nacvlad imisa,<br />
rom samarTlebrivad daesabuTebina<br />
gadawyvetileba.<br />
yvelaferma zemoTqmulma<br />
SesaZloa, Seuqcevadad daazianos<br />
saqarTvelos demokratiuli<br />
gza da evroatlantikuri integracia.<br />
movuwodebT evroparlaments,<br />
evrokavSirs, evrosab-<br />
Wosa da euTos, xma aRimaRlon<br />
movlenaTa aseTi sagangaSo ganviTarebis<br />
winaaRmdeg. Cven gvjera,<br />
rom saerTaSoriso Careva<br />
iqneba gadamwyveti saqarTvelo-<br />
Si media Tavisuflebis, sasamar-<br />
Tlo sistemis damoukideblobisa<br />
da qveynis demokratiuli<br />
ganviTarebis SesanarCuneblad”,<br />
_ naTqvamia gancxadebaSi.<br />
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moipoves aRmasrulebel da sakanonmdeblo xelisufle-<br />
bebze da axla darCenil saxelmwifo institutebs angreven,<br />
rogorebicaa: prezidenti, sasamarTlo sistemis damoukidebloba<br />
da sakonstitucio sasamarTlo”, - naTqvamia gancxadebaSi,<br />
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`Cveni xelisuflebis zogierTi warmomadgeneli<br />
gaTamamda. ifiqres, rom mxolod sakuTari<br />
interesia misaRebi da sazogadoeba maTTvis<br />
balastia. miviReT is realoba, romelic qveyanas<br />
arcxvens, magram, samwuxarod, realoba,<br />
romelic akmayofilebs swored<br />
antisaxelmwifoebrivi qmedebis Semqmnel pirebs.<br />
saqarTveloSi aseTi qmedeba upasuxod arasodes<br />
darCenila da amitom, adre Tu gvian, pasuxi<br />
sruliad mkafio iqneba. es Semarcxveneli iqneba<br />
maTTvis, vinc dRes gamarjvebas zeimobs. adre Tu<br />
gvian, yvelafers Tavisi saxeli daerqmeva.<br />
qveyana, sadac axalbeda politikosi, aRzevebuli<br />
parlamentis Tavmjdomaris simaRlemde, muqaras<br />
warmoTqvams qveynis pirveli piris mimarT da<br />
amunaTebs ara mxolod mas, aramed mTel<br />
mosaxleobas, rom, Turme, is gadawyvets, miscems<br />
Tu ara xelisufleba saSualebas, rom<br />
moqalaqeebma airCion prezidenti da ara erTma<br />
galaRebulma didma moqalaqem, nebismier<br />
Tavmoyvare qveyanaSi aseT spikers Tavad<br />
parlamenti dauwyebda ukve impiCmentis<br />
gamoyenebis samzadiss~<br />
ra ziani SeuZlia moutanos<br />
saqarTvelos „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
saqmem saerTaSoriso asparezze?<br />
ra SeiZleba daemuqros Cveni<br />
qveynis evroatlantikur in-<br />
tegracias?<br />
am sakiTxze „qronika+” poli-<br />
tologebs esaubra.<br />
soso ciskariSvili:<br />
xelisufleba gaTamamda<br />
da sazogadoeba<br />
misTvis balastia, rac<br />
qveyanas arcxvens!<br />
soso ciskariSvili _ „damo-<br />
ukidebel eqspertTa klubi”:<br />
_ ukve ar arsebobs imis eWvi,<br />
(yvela erTnairad vfiqrobT am<br />
sakiTxze, Tu sxvadasxva warmodgena<br />
gvaqvs), Cemi azriT, pasuxi<br />
erTaderTia, _ Cven gvinda demokratiuli<br />
saxelmwifo, Cven<br />
gvinda evropuli da evroatlantikuri<br />
sivrcis mkvidris saxeli,<br />
magram yvelas namdvilad _<br />
ara. amitom, rodesac garkveuli,<br />
marTlac da, gaognebuli muqarebi<br />
ismis, sazRvargareTis,<br />
Cveni damxmare da mxardamWeri<br />
sainformacio wyaroebidan, unda<br />
vaRiaroT, rom diax, CvenTan<br />
is Zalebic arian, romlebic dainteresebulni<br />
brZandebian, rom<br />
ar moxdes vizaliberalizacia,<br />
rom ar iyos civilizebul sivrceSi<br />
saqarTvelos ganviTarebis<br />
raime SesaZlebloba. vinarCuneb<br />
imeds, rom sazRvargareT Cvens<br />
yvela partniors kargad aqvs<br />
gaTvlili, nebismieri sanqcia<br />
xelisuflebisa Tu sasamarTlo<br />
sistemis danaSaulebrivi qmedebisa,<br />
vnebs sruliad marTal<br />
xalxs, upirveles yovlisa, Cvens<br />
qveyanaSi. erTi periodi, garkveuli<br />
SeRavaTi miviReT imis gamo,<br />
rom uamravi xinjiT Catarebuli<br />
saparlamento arCevnebi<br />
yvelam legitimurad CagviTvala<br />
da Cveni qveyana sajarod ar<br />
Searcxvines. rogorc Cans, Cveni<br />
xelisuflebis zogierTi warmomadgeneli<br />
gaTamamda. ifiqres,<br />
rom mxolod sakuTari interesia<br />
misaRebi da sazogadoeba<br />
maTTvis balastia. miviReT is<br />
realoba, romelic qveyanas arcxvens,<br />
magram, samwuxarod, realoba,<br />
romelic akmayofilebs<br />
swored antisaxelmwifoebrivi<br />
qmedebis Semqmnel pirebs. saqar-<br />
TveloSi aseTi qmedeba upasuxod<br />
arasodes darCenila da amitom,<br />
adre Tu gvian, pasuxi sruliad<br />
mkafio iqneba. es Semarcxveneli<br />
iqneba maTTvis, vinc<br />
dRes gamarjvebas zeimobs. adre<br />
Tu gvian, yvelafers Tavisi saxeli<br />
daerqmeva. qveyana, sadac axalbeda<br />
politikosi, aRzevebuli<br />
parlamentis Tavmjdomaris<br />
simaRlemde, muqaras warmoTqvams<br />
qveynis pirveli piris mimarT<br />
da amunaTebs ara mxolod<br />
mas, aramed mTel mosaxleobas,<br />
rom, Turme, is gadawyvets, miscems<br />
Tu ara xelisufleba saSualebas,<br />
rom moqalaqeebma air-<br />
Cion prezidenti da ara erTma<br />
galaRebulma didma moqalaqem,<br />
nebismier Tavmoyvare qveyanaSi<br />
aseT spikers Tavad parlamenti<br />
dauwyebda ukve impiCmentis gamoyenebis<br />
samzadiss.<br />
_ Tqven rogor xedavT „ru-<br />
sTavi 2"-is Semdgom beds?<br />
_ rac Seexeba „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
Semdgom beds, Cemi azriT, yvelaze<br />
umtkivneulo Sedegi SegveZlo<br />
migveRo im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu fsevdomflobelebi am mar-<br />
Tlac niWier, umaRlesi interesis<br />
mqone satelevizio sivrces<br />
datovebdnen da am arxis damfuZneblebs<br />
saSualebas miscemdnen,<br />
garkveuli uflebebiT dabrunebuli<br />
yofiliyvnen, Tumca<br />
ara rogorc mepatroneni. arxis<br />
aseT mflobelTa raodenoba saocrad<br />
didia da wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
araerTi subieqti iCemebda<br />
am rols, maT Soris, sxvadasxva<br />
organizacia, romelTa<br />
umravlesoba daregistrirebuli<br />
iyo ofSorul zonebSi, rac<br />
TavisTavad ukve garkveuli xrikis<br />
mimaniSnebeli iyo. aseTia<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is tragikuli bedi,<br />
radgan misi yvelaze aqtiuri<br />
marCenali dRes ukve cocxali<br />
aRar aris da misi mkvlelobis<br />
saqmec ki ar gamoiZia prokuraturam.<br />
rasakvirvelia, „rusTavi<br />
2" SeiZleba iyos dabalansebuli<br />
im siTboTi da siyvaruliT, romelsac<br />
mayureblebi gamoxataven<br />
am arxis mimarT, magram rogorc<br />
yovelTvis, rodesac ori dapirispirebuli<br />
Zala erTmaneTs<br />
aranair lanZRvas ar aklebs,<br />
WeSmariteba yovelTvis, sadRac,<br />
SuaSia. unda vecadoT, rom is<br />
nabijebi, romlis gadadgma Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia, ar davizaroT. Tu<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is dRevandeli generaluri<br />
direqtori sakuTar<br />
TavSi ipovis Zalas, romelic<br />
qveyanaSi aRqmulia, rogorc<br />
yofili mmarTveli gundis rupori,<br />
rasakvirvelia, sakuTari<br />
warsulis monaniebis fasad, upriani<br />
iqneboda, rom erTi wliT<br />
mainc ganrideboda sakuTar Tanamdebobas,<br />
miT umetes, rodesac<br />
igi eloda ra dapatimrebas, acxadebda,<br />
vin iqneboda misi Semcvleli.<br />
Semcvleli Cveni sazogadoebisTvis<br />
namdvilad misaRebi<br />
piria, mas arc erTi xelisuflebis<br />
lekvis saxeli ar aqvs, es<br />
mxolod gazrdis interess im<br />
televiziis mimarT, romelic<br />
2012 wlamde mxolod opozicias<br />
akritikebda, mas Semdeg ki mxolod<br />
xelisuflebas akritikebs<br />
da amitom mas obieqturs ver<br />
vuwodebT, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
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diax, iq myofi Jurnalistebi da<br />
arxis mTeli Semadgenloba uaRresad<br />
niWieri da sainteresoa<br />
Cveni sazogadoebisTvis. orive<br />
mxarem uari unda Tqvas raime<br />
pretenziaze, rom es arxi iyos<br />
romelime xelisuflebis qveSevrdomi.<br />
mxolod aseT SemTxevvaSi<br />
SeiZleba ara mxolod aRdges,<br />
aramed gaifurCqnos „rusTavi<br />
2" da marTla saerTaSoriso<br />
standartebis erT-erT saukeTeso<br />
telekompaniad Camoyalibdes.<br />
amitom SevTavazebdi erTgul<br />
mayureblebs, rom mouwodon ma-<br />
TTvis sayvarel arxs, gaemijnon<br />
nebismier politikur Temas da<br />
SeinarCunon is pativiscema,<br />
romelic niWierma adamianebma<br />
TavianTi SromiTa da profesionalizmiT<br />
daimsaxures.<br />
mamuka areSiZe _ „strategiuli<br />
kvlevebis kavkasiuri cen-<br />
tri”:<br />
_ „rusTavi 2"-is sakiTxi vizaliberalizaciaze<br />
jer ver imoqmedebs,<br />
gaaCnia, 8 marts ra moxdeba.<br />
8 marti iqneba mniSvnelovani<br />
im TvalsazrisiT, rogor<br />
verdiqts gamoitanen. amis mixedviT<br />
SegveZleba vimsjeloT, iqoniebs<br />
Tu ara gavlenas es saqar-<br />
Tvelos saerTaSoriso imijze.<br />
es yvelaferi ase martivad ar<br />
xdeba, sasamarTlom uaryofiTi<br />
gadawyvetileba romc miiRos da<br />
es rekomendacia misces evroparlaments,<br />
warmoudgenelia,<br />
magram davuSvaT, rekomendacia<br />
iyo, rom evroparlamentma an evrosabWom<br />
Tavisi pozicia gamo-<br />
Tqvas. im SemTxvevaSic ki, sxva<br />
faqtorebi aucileblad iqneba<br />
yuradsaRebi. magaliTad, natos<br />
aqtivoba Sav zRvasa da foTis<br />
portSi, savaraudod, natos Zalebis<br />
ganlageba. dasavleTi moqmedebs<br />
politikuri koniunqturidan<br />
gamomdinare. Tu maT sWirdebaT,<br />
SeiZleba, ugulebelyon<br />
yovelgvari saerTaSoriso demokratiuli<br />
faseulobebi. Cveni<br />
mezoblebis SemTxvevaSi amas<br />
araerTxel vakvirdebiT. Sua aziisa<br />
Tu Cveni regionis qveynebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi adamianis uflebebi<br />
irRveoda, magram dasavle-<br />
Ti maTTan urTierTobas mainc<br />
ar wyvetda da cdilobda, rom<br />
es urTierToba SeenarCunebina<br />
da midgomebi ar Seecvala. kidev<br />
mamuka areSiZe<br />
erTxel vimeoreb: es sakiTxi<br />
aris kompleqsuri, ase martivad<br />
da erTi SexevdiT, rom evrosasamarTlom<br />
raRac Tqva da amis<br />
Semdeg Cven mimarT mkacri gadawyvetileba<br />
iqneba miRebuli, me<br />
amas ase ar vuyureb.<br />
_ zogadad, „rusTvi 2"-is mimarT<br />
sasamarTlos mier gamotanil<br />
gadawyvetilebaze ras it-<br />
yviT?<br />
_ „rusTavi 2" unda arsebobdes,<br />
unda iyos aseTi televizia,<br />
calsaxad im paTosis, rogoric<br />
dRes aris, anu xelsuflebis mimarT<br />
kritikuli, magram seriozuli<br />
pretenziebi maqvs menejmentis<br />
da kerZod, nika gvaramias<br />
mimarT. es arasodes damimalavs,<br />
radgan rac ki ubedureba xdeboda<br />
qveyanaSi, gvaramia amis erTerTi<br />
avtori iyo, maT Soris, „imedis”<br />
saqmis, „iberiaze” rom aRaraferi<br />
vTqvaT. rac Seexeba imas,<br />
xalvaSi iqneba Tu sxva xelmZRvaneli,<br />
rasakvirvelia, orive Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi erTnairad aris, xelidan<br />
xelSi gadadioda, amitom iq<br />
bevri ram aburduli da arasworia.<br />
am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT<br />
bevrad ufro faqizi midgoma<br />
iyo saWiro.<br />
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`es iyo "qarTuli ocnebis" Secdoma, rom man televiziis<br />
mesakuTris Secvla moindoma da, aqedan gamomdinare, "rusTavi 2"-<br />
is saredaqcio politikis Secvla. am saqmeSi es aris arsebiTi,<br />
danarCeni ukve beletristikaa, Sefasebebi da improvizaciebi<br />
sxvadasxva mxridan. saerTod, mimaCnia, rom "qarTul ocnebas" ar<br />
aqvs unari imisa, rom raime problema gadawyvitos, Tundac es<br />
exebodes sainformacio sivrcis usafrTxoebas. mogexsenebaT,<br />
arsebobs iseTi cneba, rogoric aris erovnuli usafrTxoebis<br />
sistema, mimarTulebebi, maT Soris, politikur-samxedro-<br />
ekonomikuri da a. S. usafrTxoebebTan sainformacio sivrcis<br />
usafrTxoeba arsebobs, romelic garkveuli TvalsazisiT ar<br />
unda uqmnides safrTxes saxelmwifos arsebobas, qveynis<br />
ganviTarebas da sxv.~<br />
vaJa beriZe _ eqsperti:<br />
_ TavisTavad cxadia, „rusTavi<br />
2"-is saqme rezonansulia, mas<br />
sxvadasxva prizmaSi aRiqvams saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba da<br />
evrokavSiris garkveuli wreebi<br />
_ mmarTveli biurokratia, media<br />
da sxv. aqedan gamomdinare, „rusTavi<br />
2"-sadmi midgoma, Cveni xelisuflebis<br />
mxridan, Tavidanve<br />
adekvaturi unda yofilyo. vidre<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is qeiss SevafasebT,<br />
fundamentur sakiTxebze<br />
unda SevTanxmdeT: 1. mediis<br />
Tavisufleba upirobod xelSeuxebelia;<br />
2. „rusTavi 2"-is mesakuTreobis<br />
sakiTxi axalma xelisuflebam<br />
Tavidanve arasworad<br />
dasva, Tumca sazogadoebas<br />
Sesabamisi reaqcia ar hqonia. viciT,<br />
rom „rusTavi 2", mas Semdeg,<br />
rac erosi kiwmariSvilma<br />
daafuZna, warTmeuli sakuTreba<br />
gaxda. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
sakuTrebis Taobaze dava cota<br />
sasaciloa. miuxedavad am winapirobisa,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
mTavrobam sworad ver Seafasa<br />
problemis arsi da araswori midgomebis<br />
realizeba daiwyo televiziasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom es aris partiuli<br />
televizia, am televiziis<br />
gaCereba arafriT ar SeiZleba,<br />
es televizia unda darCes sainformacio<br />
sivrceSi im menejmentiT,<br />
romelic dRes hyavs da<br />
im saredaqcio politikiT, romelsac<br />
dRes is awarmoebs. es Cemi<br />
midgoma calsaxad araerTxel<br />
davafiqsire. Tumca me erTi moqalaqe<br />
var da zegavlenas verc<br />
xelisuflebis politikis formirebaze<br />
movaxden. me ki ara,<br />
mTeli sazogadoeba ver axdens<br />
am politikaze zegavlenas. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, Cveni strategiuli<br />
partniorebi ise aRiqvamen,<br />
rom mediis Tavisuflebas<br />
xelyofen. „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
mTavrobas aranairi berketi da<br />
saSualeba ar aqvs saimisod, rom<br />
amaSi dasavleTi gadaarwmunos.<br />
asec rom ar iyos, kidev erTxel<br />
vimeoreb: yvela SemTxvevaSi es<br />
iyo „qarTuli ocnebis” Secdoma,<br />
rom man televiziis mesaku-<br />
Tris Secvla moindoma da, aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, „rusTavi 2"-is<br />
saredaqcio politikis Secvla.<br />
am saqmeSi es aris arsebiTi, danarCeni<br />
ukve beletristikaa, Sefasebebi<br />
da improvizaciebi sxvadasxva<br />
mxridan. saerTod, mimaCnia,<br />
rom „qarTul ocnebas” ar<br />
aqvs unari imisa, rom raime problema<br />
gadawyvitos, Tundac es<br />
exebodes sainformacio sivrcis<br />
usafrTxoebas. mogexsenebaT,<br />
arsebobs iseTi cneba, rogoric<br />
aris erovnuli usafrTxoebis<br />
sistema, mimarTulebebi, maT Soris,<br />
politikur-samxedro-ekonomikuri<br />
da a. S. usafrTxoebebTan<br />
sainformacio sivrcis<br />
usafrTxoeba arsebobs, romelic<br />
garkveuli TvalsazisiT ar<br />
unda uqmnides safrTxes saxelmwifos<br />
arsebobas, qveynis ganvi-<br />
Tarebas da sxv. am WrilSic rom<br />
dasmuliyo sakiTxi, _ ramdenad<br />
SesaZloa ganxorcieldes diversiebi<br />
sainformacio sivrceSi garkveuli<br />
Zalebis mier?. ra Tqma<br />
unda, es sasurveli ar aris, miuRebelia,<br />
rodesac Sens sainformacio<br />
sivrces garedan sxva<br />
Zalebi akontroleben, Tundac<br />
isini Seni strategiuli partniorebi<br />
iyvnen, magram am xelisuflebas<br />
ar aqvs imis unari,<br />
rom aseTi problemebi samarTlebrivi<br />
gziT gadawyvitos. mo-<br />
`rusTavi 2"-is sakiTxi vizaliberalizaciaze jer<br />
ver imoqmedebs, gaaCnia, 8 marts ra moxdeba. 8<br />
marti iqneba mniSvnelovani im TvalsazrisiT,<br />
rogor verdiqts gamoitanen. amis mixedviT<br />
SegveZleba vimsjeloT, iqoniebs Tu ara gavlenas es<br />
saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso imijze. es yvelaferi<br />
ase martivad ar xdeba, sasamarTlom uaryofiTi<br />
gadawyvetileba romc miiRos da es rekomendacia<br />
misces evroparlaments, warmoudgenelia, magram<br />
davuSvaT, rekomendacia iyo, rom evroparlamentma<br />
an evrosabWom Tavisi pozicia gamoTqvas. im<br />
SemTxvevaSic ki, sxva faqtorebi aucileblad iqneba<br />
yuradsaRebi. magaliTad, natos aqtivoba Sav<br />
zRvasa da foTis portSi, savaraudod, natos<br />
Zalebis ganlageba. dasavleTi moqmedebs<br />
politikuri koniunqturidan gamomdinare. Tu maT<br />
sWirdebaT, SeiZleba, ugulebelyon yovelgvari<br />
saerTaSoriso demokratiuli faseulobebi~<br />
vaJa beriZe<br />
gexsenebaT, Sedegad miviReT is,<br />
rom Cveni marTlmsajulebis,<br />
sasamarTlo sistemis mimarT<br />
isedac ar iyo xalxSi aranairi<br />
avtoriteti, wina xelisuflebis<br />
dros es gaxldaT prokuraturis<br />
dakveTebis „gampravebeli”<br />
sistema, axla ufro naklebia<br />
am xelisuflebis mimarT<br />
ndoba, romlis gadawyvetilebebs<br />
Tundac iyos erTi mosamar-<br />
Tle, an evropis adamianis uflebaTa<br />
sasamarTlo, ar aRiarebs<br />
da es avtoritetes scems. sasamarTlo<br />
xelisufleba qveynis<br />
suverenitetis erT-erTi mTavari<br />
Semadgeneli nawilia. ase<br />
rom, absoluturad sapirispiro<br />
Sedegi miviReT, rac am xelisuflebas<br />
surda da saerTod, es<br />
xelisufleba aris susti imdenad,<br />
ramdenadac mas ar aqvs kav-<br />
Siri sazogadoebasTan, es mis-<br />
Tvis saerTod aqilevsis quslad<br />
iqca, radgan rodesac qveyanas<br />
marTav da ukukavSiri ar arsebobs,<br />
anu sazogadoebidan impulsebi<br />
ukan ar modis, faqtobrivad,<br />
mTeli arasamTavrobo<br />
seqtori, media, saeqsperto sazogadoeba,<br />
analitikosebi arian<br />
Seni winaaRmdegebi da mxardamWeri<br />
aravin gyavs, es ukve<br />
aris imis niSani, rom xelisuflebas<br />
seriozuli problemebi<br />
aqvs. magaliTad, dRes premieri<br />
kvirikaSvili formalurad gamovida<br />
mediaombudsmenis aparatis<br />
SemoRebis iniciativiT, es aris<br />
yovlad ususuri da arafrismomcemi<br />
iniciativa. Cven gvyavs<br />
saxalxo damcveli, romelic<br />
calke seqtorebiT awarmoebs<br />
adamianis uflebebis dacvas,<br />
gnebavT sakuTrebis uflebebis<br />
dacvas da aseT viTarebaSi raRac<br />
axali iniciativa, rom ucxoelebi<br />
moviwvioT, romlebic<br />
aqaur situaciaSi gaerkvevian, am<br />
qveyanaSi iseTi absurduli situaciaa,<br />
rom jer Cveni mTavroba<br />
ver garkveula da romeli mowveuli<br />
mediaeqsperti gadagiwyvets<br />
sakiTxs, _ televizia unda<br />
iyos Tu ara? mesakuTre kanonieria<br />
Tu ara? gasagebia es yvelaferi,<br />
araformaluria qveyanaSi<br />
mmarTvelobac da araformaluria<br />
yvelaferi, avtoritetuli<br />
televiziis formac. qveyanas<br />
marTavs biZina ivaniSvili<br />
da premieri, romelic politikur<br />
figurad aris misi menejeri<br />
da meore _ yvelaze avtoritetul<br />
televizias marTavs ukraineli<br />
politikosi mixeil saakaSvili<br />
da misi menejeri aris sakmaod<br />
niWieri adamiani nika gvaramia.<br />
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nino gvenetaZis<br />
gmiris, gvenetaZis sacxovrebels<br />
is 2015 wlis 20 martidan saqa-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
miadgebiT.<br />
rTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
quCa viwro da mWidrod dasax-<br />
Tavmjdomarea; 1998-1999 wlebSi<br />
lebulia, marcxena mxares, gayoliyo<br />
„saqarTvelos axalgazrda iuristTa asociaciis” Tavmjebaze,<br />
TiTqmis erTmaneTis mijrdomare;<br />
1999 wlidan 2005 wlamde uzenaesi sasamarTlos mosaiT,<br />
ubnis patara maRaziebi dgas,<br />
marTled muSaobda; 2008 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi respu-<br />
sadac, ZiriTadad, adilobrivi<br />
blikuri partiidan xaSuris raionis deputatad iyrida kenWs.<br />
mcxovreblebi dadian. im drois-<br />
dRes nino gvenetaZis „kom-<br />
lari; saia _ ganaTlebis fondis<br />
Tvis, roca mec iq viyavi, yvela<br />
fortis zonaze” mogiyvebiT.<br />
proeqtidan _ 4 265.00 lari, xolo<br />
maTganSi xalxis simravle iyo.<br />
fond „Ria sazogadoebidan” _ 3<br />
mokled rom vTqva, doliZis<br />
saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamar- 564.00 lari.<br />
quCidan meore mosaxvevSi marjvniv<br />
gavyevi gzas, sadac am viwro<br />
Tlos Tavmjdomare TbilisSi or Tumca, garda Semosavlisa, gvenetaZes<br />
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
binas da erT miwis nakveTs flobs.<br />
quCam eqvssarTulian ZvelaSenebul<br />
korpusTan mimiyvana, warwer-<br />
kerZod, 2016 wlis 23 maiss Sevsebuli<br />
deklaraciis mixedviT, ni-<br />
sesxebis procentis dasafarad 17<br />
soliduri danaxarjic hqonda. man<br />
iT pankisis #3. korpuss Zveli bano<br />
gvenetaZe 100%-iani wlis mflobelia<br />
TbilisSi, pekinis 3 a nomer- kerZod, „respublika bankSi”<br />
423 dolari da 674.00 lari gasca.<br />
TqaSi aqa-iq Camoscvenoda. sadarbazoSi<br />
Sesavleli karic xis da<br />
Si 70.00 kv.m.-isa da amave misamarTze<br />
140.00 kv.m.-is farTobis binebis. riani kreditis (xelSekrulebis<br />
2007 wels aRebuli 60 000-dola-<br />
Zveleburi, moCuqurTmebuli stilis<br />
iyo. im misamarTs mivageni, rasac<br />
veZebdi da axla mezoblebi-<br />
garda amisa, is flobs 11.00 dadebisa da amowurvis TariRi: 28/<br />
kv.m.-is miwis nakveTs TbilisSi, 12/2007- 7/12/2017) dasafarad<br />
sTvis kiTxvebis dasmis dro dadga.<br />
vinaidan ar vicodi, Tu rome-<br />
„diRmis savaneSi”.<br />
10280.00 dolari; amave bankSi 2012<br />
rac Seexeba mis finansur mdgomareobas,<br />
deklaraciis Sevsebis kreditis (xelSekrulebis dadeb-<br />
wels aRebuli 30000.00-dolariani<br />
li iyo konkretulad Cveni obieqtis<br />
bina, amitom SemTxveviTi SermomentSi<br />
mis saxelfaso angariSze, isa da amowurvis TariRi: 12/02/<br />
Cevis principiT vakakunebdi, an<br />
deklaraciis mixedviT, „respublika<br />
bankSi” 950.00 lari (kredi-<br />
7143.00 dolari gadaixada.<br />
2014-12/02/2019) dasafarad ki,<br />
vrekavdi zars.<br />
pirvel sarTulze sul ori<br />
ti(+) iricxeboda; Sps qarTul-amerikuli<br />
universitetis profeso-<br />
bankSi 2010 wels 10 000-dolari-<br />
garda amisa, gvenetaZes amave<br />
kari iyo, romelTaganac erTi<br />
zedmetad „mdidrulad” momeCvena<br />
robis sadoqtoro da samagistro ani kreditic aqvs aRebuli (xelSekrulebis<br />
dadebisa da amow-<br />
da „SesaZlebeli iyo”, „interesis<br />
programebis xelmZRvanelobis<br />
obieqts” davdgomodi Tavze, amitom<br />
zari ar davreke. meore karze<br />
dros 400.00 lari auRia, saqarTvelos<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tav-<br />
2017), romlis dasafaradac man<br />
urvis TariRi: 30/09/2014-30/09/<br />
gadavedi, romelic ar gamiRes da<br />
mjdomareobis dros ki _ 102199.36 674.00 lari gadaixada.<br />
ase gagrZelda ramdenjerme. bolos,<br />
mesame sarTulze, erT-erT<br />
lari.<br />
kreditebis mdgomareoba cota<br />
rac Seexeba 2015 wlis deklaracias,<br />
mis mixedviT, Sps qarTul-amis<br />
mixedviT: sesxi, krediti,<br />
cvalebadia 2016 wlis monacemeb-<br />
karze kakunisas, qalbatonma mkiTxa,<br />
_ vin xaro? _ avuxseni, Jurnalisti<br />
var da statias vamzadeberikuli<br />
universitetidan, sadac 60000.00 aSS dolari (28/12/2007,<br />
sadoqtoro da samagistro programebis<br />
xelmZRvaneli iyo, „bank respublikidan”. aqedan wina<br />
28/12/2007-27/12/2017) aqvs aRebuli<br />
meTqi. _ araferi vicio, _ pirdapir<br />
momaxala:<br />
98225.00 laris Semosavali aqvs mi- wlis pirveli ianvridan 31 de-<br />
_ erTi kiTxva meqneba, ubral-<br />
Rebuli; iusticiis saswavlo centri<br />
_ saeqsperto momsaxurebidan miRebuli materialuri Sedegi<br />
am korpusSi cxovrobs?<br />
_ 8 080.00 lari; xolo iuridiuli 10280.00 aSS dolars udris (gasavkembris<br />
CaTvliT xelSekrulebiT<br />
od, nino gvenetaZes Tu icnobT?<br />
_ mosamarTle?<br />
ganaTlebis xelSewyobis fondidan,<br />
sadac sisxlis samarTlis leq-<br />
2014, 30/09/2014-30/09/2017) „banki<br />
ali). asevea 10000.00 lari (30/09/<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ ar vici, SeiZleba, pirvel<br />
tori iyo _ 1879.00 lari.<br />
respublika” materialuri Sedegi<br />
sarTulze iyos. iq axalgadmosulebi<br />
arian.<br />
garda amisa, gvenetaZem, erTi ki 674.00 lari (gasavali). kidev<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi, Semosavlis erTi krediti, 30000.00 aSS dolari<br />
fiqsirdeba amave bankSi (12/02/<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT-meTqi da<br />
saxiT, miiRo: EU proeqti human<br />
wamvedi.<br />
dainamiqs grantidan _ 23 454.00 2014, 12/02/2014-12/02/2019), materialuri<br />
Sedegi 7143.00 aSS dolajvniv<br />
mdebare karidanac pasuxi ar<br />
Semdeg sarTulze avirbine da<br />
kibis asvlisas pirvelive, xelmarri<br />
(gasavali).<br />
iyo. axla meoreze gadavedi,<br />
qonebrivi deklaraciis Seswavlis<br />
Semdeg saqmis uSualod ganxmomxeda.<br />
saidanac Suaxnis qalbatonma gaorcielebaze<br />
gadavedi, amitom<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var,<br />
paraskev saRamos, 5 saaTisken, Cve-<br />
oriode kiTxva meqneba.<br />
ni statiis gmiris saxlisken daviZari.<br />
konkretuli mimarTuleba<br />
_ nino gvenetaZes icnobT? xom<br />
ukve aRebuli mqonda, amitom gzas<br />
am korpusSi cxovrobs?<br />
gavudeqi da Tan yovel wuTs vlo-<br />
_ gverdiT korpusSi dabla nax-<br />
_ gismenT.<br />
cavdi axal teqnologiebs, romelic<br />
navigaciaSi mexmareba da<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
uromlisodac Cem mier „komfor-<br />
am ZvelaSenebuli korpusidan<br />
eT, _ moisma kacis xma Signidan.<br />
tis zonis” rubrikaSi arsebuli gamovedi da gzas marcxniv, dabla<br />
gmirebis adgil-samyofelis dadgena<br />
cota garTuldeboda. deg ufro maRali, muqi vardisfe-<br />
gavuyevi. zustad am korpusis Sem-<br />
aRniSnuli teqnologiebis daxmarebiT<br />
saburTaloze, pekinis qu- Tac ukve namdvilad is adgilia,<br />
ri korpusi dgas, romlis gverdi-<br />
Cis maRla pankisis quCas miagnebT sadac gvenetaZis „komfortis zonas”<br />
mivakvlie.<br />
da Tu kostavas quCidan miuyvebiT<br />
gzas, maSin jer doliZis quCaze ramdenime daxuruli, an jerargaxsnili<br />
obieqtis gavlis Semdeg<br />
aRmoCndebiT, romlis aRmarTis<br />
asvlisas, marjvena mxares, meore xil-bostneulis maRazias CaivliT,<br />
romlis gareTac, savaraudod,<br />
Sesaxvevidan (eklesiasTan, aseve,<br />
patara Sesaxvevia, gvenetaZis „komfortis<br />
zonasTan” misvla iqidangazrda<br />
biWebi. am maRazias gascde-<br />
axlac isxdebian gamyidveli axalac<br />
SeiZleboda), Cveni dRevandeli biT Tu ara, xelmarcxniv aseve<br />
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aramravalsarTulian, muqi vardisferi<br />
Seferilobis korpuss miadgebiT,<br />
romlis winac dacvis<br />
daburuli kabina dgas da korpus-<br />
Si Sesasvlel karsac kodi icavs.<br />
kari rkinis da Savi ferisaa, masSi<br />
Camagrebuli minac Savi da daburulia.<br />
iqve ayenia mowyobiloba,<br />
sadac vercxlisfer mogrZo „yuT-<br />
Si” am korpusSi mcxovreblebis<br />
siaa mocemuli da maTTan zaris<br />
darekvis SesaZleblobacaa.<br />
vinaidan kars kodi icavda, SigniT<br />
Sesvla ver movaxerxe, amitomac<br />
korpusis win mdgom dacvas<br />
mivmarTe dasaxmareblad da situaciac<br />
zustad avuxseni. maxsovda,<br />
parakebaT.<br />
_ kargi-meTqi, _ vuTxari da<br />
manac dareka. ramdenime wuTSi<br />
daRmarTze qoSiniT Camoirbina<br />
dacvis im TanamSromelma, romelsac<br />
ase velodebodiT.<br />
masac igive avuxseni da, _ ufrosTan<br />
gadavrekavo, _ miTxra. ki,<br />
batono-meTqi.<br />
daaxloebiT 20 wuTi velodiT<br />
pasuxs. amasobaSi, dro rom ar<br />
damekarga, mimdebare teritoriebze<br />
arsebul maRaziebSi wavedi,<br />
rom gamomekiTxa, ramdenad xSirad<br />
dadis da kuTxis maRaziebs Tu<br />
stumrobs Cveni mosamarTle.<br />
jer im xil-bostneulis ma-<br />
`komfortis zona~<br />
_ diax, es vici, TqvenTan Se-<br />
modis Tu ara, eg mainteresebs.<br />
_ aq ar Semodis, magram vici,<br />
rom cxovrobs.<br />
_ didi madloba.<br />
_ arafris.<br />
axla meore maRazias mivaSure,<br />
aqac aranaklbi raodenobis xalxi<br />
iyo, axalgazrda gamyidvel gogonas<br />
ramdenime wamiT yuradRebis<br />
moqceva vTxove da imasac igive<br />
vuTxari. sakuTari Tavi gavacani<br />
da isev kiTxvaze gadavedi, Tu icnoben<br />
gvenetaZes da maT maRazias<br />
stumrobs Tu ara?<br />
_ ar vicnob, magram ise aq minaxavs.<br />
marTalia, CemTan ar Semo-<br />
aWerda, visTanac gasaubreba Seme-<br />
Zlo da me kiTxvebs vusvamdi.<br />
pirvelive Semxvedri patara<br />
bavSvi iyo, zaris darekvisas ki<br />
dialogi Semdegi gaxldaT:<br />
_ vinaa? _ ikiTxa bavSvma.<br />
_ gamarjoba, ufrosebi ar ari-<br />
an saxlSi? _ amis Tqma iyo da ismoda,<br />
rom viRacam bavSvi gverdze<br />
gadawia, me mimiSvio.<br />
_ gamarjoba, gismenT, _ asakovani<br />
qali xma gaisma aparatSi.<br />
_ Jurnalisti var, „qronika+”-<br />
dan, oriode kiTxva meqneba, Tu<br />
SeiZleba.<br />
_ gismenT.<br />
_ mainteresebs, nino gvenetaZe<br />
ria urTierTobaSi?<br />
Cveulebrivad, ra vici.<br />
rogorc sxvebi, gvesalmeba xolme,<br />
ki: gamarjoba, rogor xarT? _ da<br />
amiT mTavrdeba yvelaferi.<br />
_ ZiriTadad, rodis naxulobT<br />
xolme?<br />
_ diliT adre Tu SevxvdebiT<br />
xolme, an saRamos gvian.<br />
_ es mainteresebda, gmadlobT.<br />
_ arafris.<br />
am mezoblis Semdeg kidev ramdenimesTan<br />
ganmeorebiT davrekeT,<br />
Tumca isev „arsaidan xma, arsiT<br />
Zaxili”, amitomac dacvas gamovemSvidobe<br />
da statiis dasawerad<br />
gaveSure.<br />
rom ramdenime kviris win daaxloebiT<br />
igive SemTxveva iyo batoni<br />
kalaZis „komfortis zonis” aRweris<br />
drosac da maSin dacvis<br />
TanamSromlebi Zalian damexmarnen,<br />
amaves velodi axlac.<br />
dacvasTan misvla, mikakuneba<br />
da misi gareT gamosvlac erTi<br />
iyo.<br />
_ gamarjoba, „qronika+”-is<br />
Jurnalisti var, ministrebisa da<br />
cnobadi politikuri Tu ara-<br />
politikuri saxeebis „komfortis<br />
zonaze” vwer. axla q-n nino gven-<br />
etaZis „komfortis zona” unda<br />
aRvwero da amisTvis mezoblebTan<br />
mWirdeba gasaubreba. SegiZli-<br />
aT, kari gamiRoT?<br />
_ SigniT ver Sexval.<br />
_ ratom? garedan mainc ar<br />
SeiZleba, rom davelaparako me-<br />
zoblebs?<br />
_ moicadeT, unda davreko.<br />
_ sad?<br />
_ Cems TanamSromels davurekav,<br />
maRaziaSia gasuli, is dagela-<br />
RaziiT daviwye, weRan rom vaxsene.<br />
maTac igive avuxseni, rom Jurnalisti<br />
var da mainteresebs, gvenetaZes<br />
Tu xedaven xolme, am maRaziaSi<br />
Tu Semodis, xils Tu yidulobs<br />
maTTan?<br />
_ ara, Cven aranairi Sexeba ar<br />
gvaqvs, radgan axalgaxsnilebi<br />
varT, 3-4 dRea, rac aq vmuSaobT.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
aRmarTs mivaSure, sadac maRaziebi<br />
meguleboda. naklebad savaraudo<br />
iyo, rom gvenetaZe aq amovidoda,<br />
magram aRmarTze mainc<br />
avedi. jer pirvel maRaziaSi Sevedi,<br />
sadac sakmaod bevri xalxi<br />
trialebda, roca gamyidveli Can-<br />
TaSi raRacas alagebda, dro vixelTe<br />
da vkiTxe:<br />
_ nino gvenetaZes Tu icnobT,<br />
Tu Semodis TqvenTan-meTqi?<br />
_ mosamarTles?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ ai, iq cxovrobs, dabla, daRmarTs<br />
rom CauyvebiT, _ miTxra da<br />
xeliT maniSna.<br />
dis xolme, magram mainc.<br />
_ gmadlobT-meTqi da wamovedi.<br />
isev im korpuss mivaSure, we-<br />
Ran rom ambis gasarkvevad dacvis<br />
policia davtove.<br />
movedi Tu ara, maSinve dacvas<br />
vkiTxe:<br />
_ ra gairkveT, miSvebT Tu ara-<br />
meTqi?<br />
_ jer ar vici, zars velodebio.<br />
kidev 15 wuTi gavida.<br />
bolos, rogorc iqna, daurekes.<br />
Tanxmoba momces, oRond mxolod<br />
imis, rom SigniT korpusSi ar Sevidodi<br />
da garedan, ukve am xsenebuli<br />
mowyobilobis saSualebiT<br />
davelaparakebodi mcxovreblebs.<br />
mxolod xuT Tu eqvs maTganTan<br />
mqonda dalaparakebis ufleba,<br />
danarCenTan _ ara.<br />
amazec Tanaxma viyavi, oRond<br />
vinmesTan gamesaubra da maSinve<br />
moqmedebaze gadavedi. karTan me<br />
da dacvis ori TanamSromeli<br />
davdeqiT, erT-erTi Rilakebs<br />
rogori mezobelia TqvenTvis?<br />
_ kargi.<br />
_ rame Sexeba gqoniaT? xedavT<br />
xolme?<br />
_ iSviaTad, magram vxedavT<br />
xolme.<br />
_ salmiania?<br />
_ diax, rogor ara.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
_ arafris, naxvamdis.<br />
axla Semdeg Rilaks miaWira<br />
dacvis TanamSromelma, Tumca pasuxi<br />
ar iyo. ase gagrZelda kidev<br />
or mezobelTan. savaraudod, saxlSi<br />
ar iyvnen. bolos, rogorc<br />
iqna, axalgazrda mamakacis xma gaisma,<br />
masac vuTxari, rom Jurnalisti<br />
viyavi:<br />
_ gamarjoba, gismenT.<br />
_ mainteresebs, nino gvenetaZe<br />
rogori mezobelia TqvenTvis?<br />
_ rogorc Cveulebrivi yvela<br />
sxva.<br />
_ xSirad xedavT xolme?<br />
_ xSirad vera.<br />
_ ramdenad salmiania? rogo-<br />
korpusis win Zalian patara<br />
baRia, sadac mwvaned SeRebili,<br />
rkinebiT ovalurad gadaxuruli<br />
mcire nageboba dgas, romelSic<br />
RvTismSoblis xatia moTavsebuli.<br />
amave quCis gayolebaze Ria mwvane<br />
feris qviT mopirkeTebuli, wminda<br />
Tamar mefis saxelobis patara<br />
bazilika moCans.<br />
ezoSi bavSvebi erT adgilas,<br />
manqanebis farexebTan Segroviliyvnen<br />
da raRacaze gulianad icinodnen.<br />
dacva Tavis kabinas daubrunda.<br />
mec wamovedi.<br />
Cveni qveynis uzenaesi sasamarTlos<br />
Tavmjdomaris „komfortis<br />
zona” swored aq, saburTaloze,<br />
pekinis quCis ukan, pankisis<br />
quCaze mdebareobs, Tan im korpus-<br />
Si, sadac Cemnairi an sxva tipis<br />
Jurnalisti (Tundac gansxvavebuli<br />
profesiis mqone pirovneba) unebarTvod<br />
verasdros Seva da „Seawuxebs”<br />
mezoblebs.<br />
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arakonkurentuli<br />
da sabazro ekonomika<br />
qiravdeba/giravdeba saofise<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
farTi, _ ramdenad xSirad ginaxavT<br />
amgvari warwera quCaSi, xee-<br />
bze, kedlebze, gazeTebsa da ra Tqma unda, internetSi? _<br />
Zalian xSirad!<br />
ritorikuli kiTxva igive formiT darCeba, radgan yvela<br />
Cvengans gvinaxavs msgavsi warwerebi da isic Zalian xSirad.<br />
ras niSnavs es? biznesis keTeba gamartivda da am kuTxiT<br />
Tavisuflebi varT?<br />
ratom da rogor gamartivda<br />
procedurebi saqarTveloSi biznesis<br />
keTebis kuTxiT?<br />
ra tendenciebi SeiniSneba da<br />
ramdenad SesaZlebelia mciredan<br />
msxvil biznesSi gadanacvleba? _<br />
am kiTxvebiT „qronika+” dainteresda.<br />
„albaT, gaxsovT, rom msoflio<br />
bankis jgufma „biznesis warmoeba<br />
2017 _ Tanaswori SesaZleblobebi<br />
yvelasaTvis” kvleva gamoaqveyna,<br />
romlis Tanaxmad, saqarTvelo<br />
190 qveyanas Soris me-16 adgilzea;<br />
evropisa da centraluri aziis<br />
regionSi ki saqarTvelo mesame<br />
adgilzea umaRlesi reitingis<br />
mqone qveynebs Soris _ makedoniisa<br />
da latviis Semdeg. saqarTvelo<br />
aseve im mowinave 10 qveyanas<br />
Sorisaa, romlebmac mniSvnelovnad<br />
gaaumjobeses sakuTari maCveneblebi<br />
globaluri masStabiT.<br />
TbilisSi miwis administrireba<br />
kerZo mflobelobaSi arsebuli<br />
nakveTebis rukaze dataniT gaumjobesda;<br />
saqarTvelom mcire<br />
investorebis dacva gaaZliera aqcionerTa<br />
uflebebisa da rolis<br />
20<br />
SoTa gulbani<br />
`rodesac vsaubrobT<br />
nebismieri qveynis<br />
biznesgaremoze, sam<br />
mniSvnelovan faqtors<br />
unda mivaqcioT<br />
yuradReba - pirveli:<br />
ramdenad daculia<br />
qveyanaSi sakuTrebis<br />
ufleba, meore: rogor<br />
progresirebs qveynis<br />
ZriTadi<br />
makroekonomikuri<br />
monacemebi, anu ramdenad<br />
swor ekonomikur<br />
politikas atarebs<br />
xelisufleba da mesame:<br />
ramdenad iolia<br />
qveyanaSi finansebze<br />
xelmisawvdomoba<br />
biznesis dasawyebad, an<br />
ganviTareba-<br />
gadaiaraRebisTvis~<br />
gazrdiT ZiriTadi korporaciuli<br />
gadawyvetilebebis miRebaSi<br />
da mflobelobisa da makontrolebeli<br />
struqturebis mkafiod<br />
gansazRvriT; eleqtronuli damuSavebis<br />
sistemis gaumjobesebiT<br />
SesaZlebeli gaxda eqsportisa da<br />
importis dokumentebis ufro<br />
swrafi wardgena; aseve, dainerga<br />
winaswari eleqtronuli dokumentebis<br />
wardgenis SesaZlebloba;<br />
gadasaxadebis gadaxdis sferoSi<br />
saqarTvelom gaauqma mogebis gadasaxadis<br />
deklaraciis damatebi-<br />
Ti danarTi da dRg-is deklaraciebis<br />
warsadgenad gamoyenebuli<br />
onlain sistemis efeqtianoba gaaumjobesa;<br />
„biznesis warmoebis” kvlevis<br />
mier Sefasebul xuT sferoSi ganxorcielebuli<br />
reformebis Sedegad<br />
saqarTvelos winsvla gansakuTrebul<br />
aRniSvnas imsaxurebs.<br />
qveyana kvlavac warmatebul<br />
reformatorebs Sorisaa mdgradi<br />
ekonomikuri zrdiT da globaluri<br />
Sokebis mimarT mdgradobis<br />
gaZlierebiT”, _ Tavis droze<br />
aRniSna msoflio bankis regionulma<br />
direqtorma samxreT kavkasiaSi,<br />
mersi tembonma.<br />
realurad, kvlevis sagani _<br />
biznesis warmoeba _ kompleqsuri<br />
maCvenebelia da warmoebaSi fundamenturi<br />
mdgenelia biznesis<br />
wamowyebis simartive, amaSi biznesis<br />
dasrulebac igulisxmeba da,<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, ukve arc ise saxarbielo<br />
pozicia gvaqvs.<br />
aRniSnul kvlevas gasul nomrebSi<br />
ukve mivuZRveniT statia,<br />
magram axla sainteresoa, Tu realurad<br />
rogor xorcieldeba yovelive<br />
da ramdenadaa garemo<br />
morgebuli rigiT, damwyeb biznesmenebze,<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
ekonomikis eqspertebsa da biznes<br />
samarTlis specialists vesaubreT,<br />
Tumca manamde gavixsenoT<br />
wina Tvis miwuruls „magTikomis”<br />
mflobelis, joxTaberiZis gancxadeba<br />
farul mosmenebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT: „iseTi SegrZneba maqvs,<br />
TiTqos ginda daimorCilo _ me ki<br />
minda, Tavisufali viyo biznesis<br />
kuTxiT”.<br />
aseve gasaTvaliswinebelia<br />
„jorjian developmenT grupis”<br />
damfuZnebel guram waqaZis<br />
gancadeba: „biznesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sirTule mxolod isaa, rom<br />
bazari Zalian mcire gvaqvs, Torem<br />
dRes mis keTebas xels aravin<br />
uSlis, piriqiT, Zalian kargi garemo<br />
aqvs. Tu imas gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />
rom Ceni qveyana Zalian pataraa<br />
da bazari Zalian mcirea,<br />
esaa sirTule”.<br />
zogadad ki, rodesac biznesis<br />
warmoebisTvis xelsayrel pirobebzea<br />
saubari, aq ori aspeqtia<br />
gasaTvaliswinebeli: pirveli, es<br />
aris registracia, romelic ukve<br />
Zalian gaadvilebulia da meore,<br />
biznesis keTeba.<br />
eqspertebis mosazrebiT, gansakuTrebiT<br />
rTulia aralobirebuli<br />
biznesis keTeba.<br />
registrirebis kuTxiT licenziebis<br />
problemac mraval sferoSia<br />
moxsnili, nebarTvebi, am<br />
mxriv, minimaluria, rac, ra Tqma<br />
unda, kargia, magram TviTon saer-<br />
To garemo, jerjerobiT, ar aris<br />
axlos im mdgomareobasTan, rac<br />
mTlianad biznesis ganviTarebas<br />
Seuwyobda xels.<br />
eqspertebisve SefasebiT, yvelaze<br />
cudi, rac saqarTveloSia,<br />
aris arakonkurentuli garemo, is<br />
rac amosavalia sabazro ekonomikisTvis.<br />
am arakonkurentul garemos<br />
ki xels uwyoben msxvili<br />
monopolistebi, oligopoliuri<br />
bazrebi, msxvili importiorebi,<br />
xelisuflebasTan asocirebuli<br />
da misive mxardaWeriT funqcionirebadi<br />
subieqtebi. eseni xels<br />
uSlian imas, rom adgilobrivi<br />
warmoeba ganviTardes, yvelaferi<br />
importzea Camokidebuli, maT Soris,<br />
kvebis sferoSic.<br />
akaki CargeiSvili _ biznes-<br />
samarTlis specialisti:<br />
_ biznesis keTebisa da wamowyebis<br />
Tema, zogadad, Zalian gaSlil<br />
saubars moiTxovs. es imitom,<br />
rom, erTi mxriv, biznesis dawyeba<br />
asocirdeba kompaniis gaxsnasTan<br />
da formalur sakiTxebTan,<br />
magram meorea, Semdeg, ukve<br />
uSualod praqtikuli biznesiT<br />
dakaveba, Sesabamisad, biznesis<br />
wamowyeba, kompaniis gaxsna, daregistrirebis<br />
saqmes Tu mivyvebiT,<br />
es Zalian martivi da advili<br />
procesia.<br />
meore mxriv, rac Seexeba ukve<br />
biznesis dawyebas, nebismier Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi es biznesis dawyebis SesaZlebloba<br />
ukavSirdeba ekonomikur<br />
seqtorSi sxvadasxva Tematikas.<br />
es iqneba mSenebloba, raimes<br />
warmoeba, distribucia Tu a. S.<br />
aq ukve specifika imis mixedviTaa,<br />
ramdenad advilia konkretuli<br />
biznesis warmoeba.<br />
magaliTisTvis rom vTqvaT,<br />
mSeneblobasTan dakavSirebuli<br />
Temebi roca gvaqvs, erTia kompaniis<br />
gaxsna erT dReSi, magram meorea,<br />
roca ukve mSeneblobis<br />
nebarTva gWirdeba, Sesabamisad,<br />
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garemo<br />
naxazebia aucilebeli da amis sasociaciebma gancxadebebis gakeTeba,<br />
Riad iyo saubari sael-<br />
garda, ukve Tu raime sadavo sakiTxia,<br />
es, rogorc wesi, administraciul<br />
berketebsa da urTier-<br />
Coebis donezec.<br />
Tobebs ukavSirdeba. nebismieri<br />
soso arCvaZe _ ekonomikis<br />
sakiTxi, romelic gadawyvetileb-<br />
eqsperti:<br />
is miRebas saWiroebs, aq ukve _ instituciurad da samarTlebrivad<br />
biznesis wamowyeba<br />
rTulad gvaqvs saqme. es katastrofaa,<br />
imitom, rom droSi gaWimul<br />
sasamarTlo davebs vRebu-<br />
aris e. w. kapitalis qona, radgan<br />
rTuli ar aris, magram problema<br />
lobT, romelic ramdenime dRes Cveni mosaxleobis Semosavlebi<br />
da erT, an or wels ki ara, sam, an araTu biznesis wamosawyebad, aramed<br />
Cveulebrivi, rigiTi moTx-<br />
oTx wels SeiZleba gagrZeldes.<br />
detalurad, roca bizness raime ovnebis dasakmayofilebladac<br />
aqvs dagegmili da es realurad arasakmarisia. amaze metyvelebs<br />
gadauwyvetelia, ukve biznesis warmoebas<br />
aferxebs da ukve cud li sesxebis raodenobis zrda,<br />
ramdenime faqti, es aris aRebu-<br />
mdgomareobaSi amyofebs damwyeb plus vadagadacilebuli davalianebis<br />
swrafi mateba _ marTalia,<br />
bizness.<br />
amitom erTi mxarea formaluri,<br />
roca biznesis gaxsnazea atarebs „awarmoe saqarTveloSi”<br />
saxelmwifo bolo ori weliwadia<br />
saubari da meore mxarea saqmis politikas, romlis mixedviTac<br />
keTeba, ramdenad mobilizebulia calkeul seqtorSi warmoeba,<br />
saxelmwifo institutebi, ramdenad<br />
arian TavianTi gadawyvetileba,<br />
garkveuli finansuri daxmare-<br />
mrewveloba, momsaxureba izrdebebiT<br />
mzad, rom mxari dagiWiron bac xdeba, magram mTlianobaSi es<br />
konkretuli biznesis keTebaSi. mainc ar aris sakmarisi imisTvis,<br />
sasamarTlo davebi Zalian didi<br />
problemaa, imitom rom, ro-<br />
Ta didi nawili am mxardaWeriT<br />
rom yvela msurveli, an msurvelgorc<br />
vTqvi, sam an oTx wels gr- dakmayofildes. amitom ufro<br />
Zeldeba.<br />
meti resursia saWiro saamisod.<br />
specialurad Cavatare kvleva, anu, erTi mxriv, samarTlebrivi<br />
amisTvis sasamarTlos mivmarTe resursia saWiro biznesis warmoebisTvis<br />
da, meore mxriv, mwiri fi-<br />
da aRmoCnda, rom marto Tbilisis<br />
saqalaqo sasamarTloSi, samoqalaqo<br />
saqmeebis warmoebis mxriv, msurvels saSualebas ar aZlevs,<br />
nansuri SesaZlebloba yvela<br />
erT mosamarTleze gansaxilvelad<br />
1000 saqmemde modis. es aris SesaZleblobebis motivacia uz-<br />
rom sakuTari gegmebis, miznebis,<br />
katastrofa iqidan gamomdinare, runvelyos.<br />
rom amas kolosaluri dro da<br />
_ Tu konkretul moqalaqes<br />
resursi, sasamarTloSi menejireukve<br />
aqvs materialuri baza, ramba<br />
da administrireba sWirdeba.<br />
denad martivia biznesis wamow-<br />
_ bankebis araprofiluri bi-<br />
yeba da warmoeba misTvis?<br />
znesebis floba da konkurenci-<br />
_ mas SeuZlia mcire saxis bi-<br />
ac xom ar uSlis xels biznesis<br />
znesis warmoeba, magram e. w msx-<br />
keTebas?<br />
vilmasStabian biznesSi gadasvla,<br />
_ es ukve Semdgomi ambebia, anu an im sferoSi, romelic ukve ganawilebulia<br />
msxvil mwarmoe-<br />
Cven, erTi mxriv, vsaubrobT, vTqvaT,<br />
startafebze da dawyebaze, blebsa da realizatorebs Soris,<br />
xolo misi ganxorcieleba drosa mas adgilis damkvidreba seriozulad<br />
gauWirdeba.<br />
da sivrceSi ukve meore mxarea,<br />
rogorc vTqviT da arsebuli sasamarTlo<br />
sistemidan gamomdinuri<br />
lifti”, romelsac sazoga-<br />
aris aseTi termini, „socialare,<br />
katastrofa aRiniSneba. amaze doebis rigiTi, Cveulebrivi wevris<br />
karieruli swrafi zrdisTvis<br />
ukve Zalian Riad daiwyes bizne-<br />
xelsayreli pirobebis erTobliobis<br />
aRsaniSnavad iyeneben. vTqvaT,<br />
ramdenad SesaZlebelia sofelSi<br />
dabadebuli, ubralo<br />
mSromeli glexis Svili gaizardos<br />
da gaxdes saxelmwifo moR-<br />
soso arCvaZe<br />
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akaki CargeiSvili<br />
`mSeneblobasTan dakavSirebuli Temebi roca<br />
gvaqvs, erTia kompaniis gaxsna erT dReSi, magram<br />
meorea, roca ukve mSeneblobis nebarTva<br />
gWirdeba, Sesabamisad, naxazebia aucilebeli da<br />
amis garda, ukve Tu raime sadavo sakiTxia, es,<br />
rogorc wesi, administraciul berketebsa da<br />
urTierTobebs ukavSirdeba. nebismieri sakiTxi,<br />
romelic gadawyvetilebis miRebas saWiroebs, aq<br />
ukve rTulad gvaqvs saqme. es katastrofaa,<br />
imitom, rom droSi gaWimul sasamarTlo davebs<br />
vRebulobT, romelic ramdenime dRes da erT, an<br />
or wels ki ara, sam, an oTx wels SeiZleba<br />
gagrZeldes. detalurad, roca bizness raime aqvs<br />
dagegmili da es realurad gadauwyvetelia, ukve<br />
biznesis warmoebas aferxebs da ukve cud<br />
mdgomareobaSi amyofebs damwyeb bizness.<br />
amitom erTi mxarea formaluri, roca biznesis<br />
gaxsnazea saubari da meore mxarea saqmis keTeba,<br />
ramdenad mobilizebulia saxelmwifo<br />
institutebi, ramdenad arian TavianTi<br />
gadawyvetilebebiT mzad, rom mxari dagiWiron<br />
konkretuli biznesis keTebaSi~<br />
`saxelmwifo bolo ori weliwadia atarebs<br />
"awarmoe saqarTveloSi" politikas, romlis<br />
mixedviTac calkeul seqtorSi warmoeba,<br />
mrewveloba, momsaxureba izrdeba, garkveuli<br />
finansuri daxmarebac xdeba, magram<br />
mTlianobaSi es mainc ar aris sakmarisi<br />
imisTvis, rom yvela msurveli, an msurvelTa<br />
didi nawili am mxardaWeriT dakmayofildes.<br />
amitom ufro meti resursia saWiro<br />
saamisod. anu, erTi mxriv, samarTlebrivi<br />
resursia saWiro biznesis warmoebisTvis da,<br />
meore mxriv, mwiri finansuri SesaZlebloba<br />
yvela msurvels saSualebas ar aZlevs, rom<br />
sakuTari gegmebis, miznebis, SesaZleblobebis<br />
motivacia uzrunvelyos~<br />
vawe, an mecnieri, Tu Sesabamisi<br />
pirobebi ar aqvs _ es calkeuli<br />
piris SemTxvevaSi, magram rac Seexeba<br />
biznesSi, aseTi „liftebis”<br />
arseboba sul ufro da ufro<br />
mcirdeba da msxvil biznesSi,<br />
romelsac instituciuri saxe<br />
aqvs, romelic Camoyalibebulia,<br />
Zalian gauWirdeba. mciredan msxvil<br />
biznesSi gadasvlas aucileblad<br />
sWirdeba didi kapitali,<br />
romelic rTuli mosaZiebeli<br />
xdeba.<br />
mcire biznesad Tu darCeba da<br />
ambicia ar eqneba, did biznesSi gadavides,<br />
es ukve sxva sakiTxia,<br />
magram Tu ufro „mZime woniT<br />
kategoriaSi” gadasvla problemebs<br />
qmnis, amaze dafiqrebaa saWiro,<br />
Tu ra unda gaakeTos saxelmwifom,<br />
rom Sesabamisi xelSewyobis<br />
reJimi gaCndes.<br />
_ komerciuli bankebi xom ar<br />
uSlian xels biznesis ganviTare-<br />
bas sesxebis argacemiT, radgan<br />
konkretul mwarmoebelSi konk-<br />
urents xedaven?<br />
_ aq, faqtobrivad, bazari<br />
struqturirebulia da zedmeti<br />
axali moTamaSis gaCena, miT ufro,<br />
konkurentis statusiT, aravis<br />
awyobs da amis daZleva Sesa-<br />
Zlebeli iqneba, roca TviTon bazris<br />
masStabebi imdenad gaizrdeba,<br />
rom dRevandeli monopolisti<br />
dakargavs Tavis eqskluziur<br />
uflebas, rom am bazarze Tavisi<br />
pirobebi ukarnaxos sxvas.<br />
SoTa gulbani _ axalgazrda<br />
finansistTa da biznesmenTa aso-<br />
ciaciis prezidenti:<br />
_ rodesac vsaubrobT nebismieri<br />
qveynis biznesgaremoze, sam<br />
mniSvnelovan faqtors unda mivaqcioT<br />
yuradReba _ pirveli: ramdenad<br />
daculia qveyanaSi sakuTrebis<br />
ufleba, meore: rogor progresirebs<br />
qveynis ZriTadi makroekonomikuri<br />
monacemebi, anu<br />
ramdenad swor ekonomikur politikas<br />
atarebs xelisufleba da<br />
mesame: ramdenad iolia qveyanaSi<br />
finansebze xelmisawvdomoba biznesis<br />
dasawyebad, an ganviTareba-gadaiaraRebisTvis.<br />
mokled Sevexebi TiToeul ma-<br />
Tgans. sakuTrebis uflebis dacvis<br />
kuTxiT Cvenma qveyanam Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovani progresi ganicada<br />
xelisuflebis cvlilebis Semdgom.<br />
magaliTad, msoflio ekonomikuri<br />
forumis mier 2013 wels<br />
gamoqveynebuli moxsenebis mixedviT,<br />
romelic 2012 wlis monacemebs<br />
eyrdnoboda, saqarTvelo 140<br />
qveyanas Soris 128-e adgilze iyo,<br />
xolo 2016 wlis moxsenebiT 64-e<br />
adgilze gadmovinacvleT. es mni-<br />
Svnelovani progresia da imaze<br />
metyvelebs, rom Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
xelisufleba bizness aRar aterorebs.<br />
zogadad, ekonomikuri ganviTarebisTvis<br />
es faqtori qvaku-<br />
Txeds warmoadgens, vinaidan biznesmens<br />
Tu ar aqvs gancda imisa,<br />
rom mis mier Seqmnil dovlaTs<br />
safrTxe ar emuqreba, mas ar eqneba<br />
stimuli awarmoos produqcia<br />
da daasaqmos adamianebi.<br />
rac Seexeba makroekonomikur<br />
monacemebs, am kuTxiTac saqarTvelom<br />
garkveuli progresi ganicada.<br />
Cven gvaxsovs ukanasknel<br />
wlebSi mZime ekonomikuri regionuli<br />
krizisi, rodesac Cvens samezobloSi<br />
uaryofiTi ekonomikuri<br />
zrda fiqsirdeboda, CvenTan<br />
ki ekonomika mainc izrdeboda. am<br />
kuTxiT biznesgaremo mniSvnelovnad<br />
daazarala laris kursis<br />
rxevebma, vinaidan CvenTan arsebuli<br />
produqtebis, daaxloebiT,<br />
80% importirebulia da biznesmenebi,<br />
erTi mxriv, informaciul<br />
vakuumSi imyofebodnen imis gamo,<br />
rom ar icodnen, ra daemarTeboda<br />
laris kurss dolarTan mimarTebiT<br />
da, meore mxriv, bizness<br />
gauZvirda dolarSi arsebuli<br />
valdebulebebi, aman ki potenciur<br />
investorebze, bunebrivia,<br />
uaryofiTad imoqmeda.<br />
da mesame faqtori: finansebze<br />
xelmisawvdomoba vaxsene, rac,<br />
Cemi azriT, mimzidveli biznesgaremos<br />
formirebisTvis erTerTi<br />
fundamenturad mniSvnelovani<br />
sakiTxia. am mxriv qveyanaSi<br />
TiTqmis erTaderT da ualternativo<br />
wyaros bankebi warmoadgenen,<br />
romlebic, maincdamainc, ar<br />
arian dainteresebuli biznessesxebis<br />
gacemiT da, ZiriTadad, orientirebuli<br />
arian moxmarebis dafinansebaze,<br />
rac azianebs ekonomikas.<br />
biznesgaremo ar gaumjobesebula<br />
am kuTxiT imitom, rom ar<br />
gaCenila qveyanaSi finansuri resursebis<br />
moZiebis alternatiuli<br />
wyaroebi, ar momxdara finansuri<br />
bazris diversificireba da masze<br />
axali moTamaSeebis Semosvla, romlebic<br />
sainvesticio garemos ufro<br />
mimzidvels gaxdidnen.<br />
Sesabamisad, Cven saxeze gvaqvs<br />
gaurkveveli gaumjobesebuli monacemebi<br />
biznesis sakeTeblad,<br />
Tumca problemebi kvlav arsebobs,<br />
rasac Zlieri da mkacri saxelmwifo<br />
politikis gatareba<br />
sWirdeba.<br />
sabolood, Tqven kvlav naxavT<br />
quCaSi gakrul gancxadebebs far-<br />
Tis gaqiraveba an dagiravebis<br />
Sesaxeb, saqarTvelo kvlav im safexurze<br />
dgas biznesis wamowyebis<br />
kuTxiT, razec bolos Catarebuli<br />
kvlevis mixedviT idga, magram<br />
rogor waadgeba arsebuli<br />
mdomareoba Cvens ekonomikas, es<br />
sakiTxi jerac azrTa sxvadasxvaobas<br />
iwvevs.<br />
21
laSa CxartiSvili:<br />
_ moqmedma mTavrobam kidev<br />
erTi hesis mSenebloba „gvaxara”.<br />
es aris onis hesebis kaskadi,<br />
romelic didi hesebis kategorias<br />
ganekuTvneba da romelTa<br />
akrZalvac moqmedi xelisuflebis<br />
saarCevno dapireba<br />
iyo. winamorbedi xelisufleba<br />
aRniSnulis warmoebas masobrivad,<br />
yovelgvari dasabuTebis<br />
gareSe cdilobda da cxadia,<br />
Cveni kritikis obieqti iyo. es<br />
ormagad kargad maxsovs, radgan<br />
maSindeli opoziciis, „qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis” policiis garemos<br />
dacvis jgufis xelmZRvaneli<br />
da asave maTi programis<br />
garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi<br />
resursebis marTvis Tavis avtori<br />
gaxldiT. Sesabamisad, maxsovs,<br />
rom iq namdvilad iyo<br />
saubari didi hidroeleqtrosadgurebis<br />
mSeneblobis akrZalvaze,<br />
Tumca aRniSnuli dapirebis<br />
darRvevis araerTgzis<br />
mcdeloba ki ara, darRvevac<br />
22<br />
Tamar oTiaSvili<br />
„moqmedma mTavrobam kidev erTi hesis mSenebloba „gvaxara”...<br />
win stiqiuri procesebis masobrivi gaaqtiureba da datborva<br />
gvelis, Tuki xelisufleba gaatarebs da gaitans am danaSaulebriv<br />
politikas, romelic sakuTari finansuri Tu poli-<br />
tikuri mogebisTvis midis”, _ ambobs „qronika+”-Tan saubri-<br />
sas ekologi, demokratiuli institutis xelmZRvaneli, laSa<br />
CxartiSvili da onis hesebis kaskadze amaxvilebs yuradRebas,<br />
romlis mSeneblobac a. w. zafxulSi unda daiwyos.<br />
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didi xania, ukve saxezea. kidev<br />
erTi amdagvari SemTxveva onis<br />
hesebis kaskadia da problemebi<br />
igive rCeba. es aris masStaburi<br />
gavlena bunebaze, garemoze,<br />
Sesabamisad, samomavlod<br />
gaxSirebuli bunebrivi katastrofebi<br />
da maRali albaTobiT<br />
msxverpli adamianTa Soris. xelisuflebas<br />
110 hesis mSeneblobis<br />
survili aqvs, amis Sesaxeb,<br />
daaxloebiT, erTi wlis win<br />
gaJRerda energetikis saministroSi.<br />
aqedan 28-30 did heszea<br />
saubari, rac, ubralod, damangreveli<br />
Sedegebis momtani iqneba<br />
da Cveni qveynidan ra dar-<br />
Ceba? magram es SemTxveva, razec<br />
axla minda visaubroT, sainteresoa<br />
ori ramis gamo: jer<br />
erTi, rom SedarebiT axalia,<br />
anu am mSeneblobis Sesaxeb, daaxloebiT,<br />
ramdenime kviris win<br />
gaJRerda. meore mxriv, gaJRerda<br />
rogorc Semdgari faqti,<br />
rac ukve naklebad axalia, imitom,<br />
rom CvenTan es praqtika<br />
`onis hesebis kaskadi raWa-leCxumisa da qvemo<br />
svaneTis mxareSi, onis municipalitetSi,<br />
mdinare rionSi unda aSendes. rogorc Sps<br />
`feris~ aRmasrulebeli direqtori, laSa<br />
iordaniSvili acxadebs, samSeneblo nebarTva,<br />
jerjerobiT, namdvilad ar miuRiaT. sanebarTvo<br />
procedurebi, savaraudod, 3 Tvis vadaSi<br />
dasruldeba da onis hesebis kaskadis<br />
mSeneblobas zafxulSi daiwyeben. winasaproeqto<br />
kvlevebis angariSi ukve dasrulebulia.<br />
aRniSnuli kvleva germanulma kompania `la<br />
maierma~ Caatara, garemoze zemoqmedebis Sefaseba<br />
ki - kompania `gamam~. 200-megavatiani hesis<br />
(Tavdapirvelad 280 megavatiani hesis mSenebloba<br />
iyo gansazRvruli) sainvesticio Rirebuleba 335<br />
milioni dolaria. Sps `feri~ hess<br />
Tanainvestirebis fondTan erTad aSenebs. imis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT, rom garemos naklebi ziani<br />
miadges, iordanaSvilis ganmartebiT, hess<br />
kaSxali ar eqneba, igi modinebaze imuSavebs. hesis<br />
mSenebloba 4-5 weliwadSi unda dasruldes~<br />
laSa CxartiSvili:<br />
`onis hesebis<br />
kaskadis<br />
mSeneblobaSi<br />
biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis<br />
komerciuli<br />
interesia!~<br />
winamorbedma xelisuflebam<br />
daamkvidra da mankieri da danaSaulebrivi<br />
midgomebis Ziri-<br />
Tadi umravlesoba moqmedma xelisuflebamac<br />
gadmoiRo, imitom,<br />
rom ar SeiZleba faqtze,<br />
rogorc Semdgarze saubari,<br />
Tu nebarTva ar arsebobs. amas-<br />
Tanave, sainteresoa imiT, Tu<br />
vis kompanias Tu yofil kompanias<br />
ukavSirdeba es mSenebloba,<br />
Tumca ara mgonia, rom es<br />
yofili iyos, radgan saubaria<br />
infrastruqturisa da regionuli<br />
ganviTarebis saministroze<br />
da mis ministr zurab alaviZeze.<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
swored es adamiani gaxldaT<br />
„dariali enerji hesis” direqtori,<br />
romelic kompania „ferisTan”<br />
erTad im avadsaxsenebeli<br />
kaSxlebis mSenebeli iyo,<br />
romelic ramdenjerme wyalma<br />
waiRi da, sabolo jamSi, am katastrofas<br />
11 adamiani Seewira.<br />
gvaxsovs TergTan tragediac<br />
da SeiZleba sruli nonsensi da<br />
katastrofa davarqvaT im<br />
faqts, rom es adamiani, am proeqtebis<br />
xelmZRvaneli dainiSna<br />
ministrad. es adamiani, amasTanave,<br />
gaxldaT „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” msxvili Semomwirvelic.<br />
am mxriv, gasagebia, rom<br />
sruliad miuRebelia misi ministrad<br />
daniSvna da axla ukve<br />
isev am adamianis saxelTan dakavSirebuli<br />
kompaniis mier didi<br />
hesebis kaskadis mSeneblobis<br />
Sesaxeb ase xmamaRla gacxadda,<br />
TiTqosda ukve yvelaferi<br />
gadawyvetilia. sinamdvileSi,<br />
es yvelaferi jer ar gadawyvetila.<br />
es damokidebulia sazogadoebis<br />
aqtiurobaze. xudonhesis<br />
SeCereba, rac ar unda<br />
sxva mizezebze vilaparakoT,<br />
pirvel rigSi, swored svaneTis<br />
mosaxleobis damsaxurebaa. rac<br />
Seexeba Tavad alaviZis figuras,<br />
yvelaferi, razec Cven visaubreT,<br />
rbilad rom vTqvaT<br />
da prezumpfcia ar davarRvioT,<br />
mxolod da mxolod, formaluri<br />
TvalsazrisiT, eWvs badebs,<br />
rom aSkara korufciul<br />
garigebebTan gvaqvs saqme am SemTxvevaSic,<br />
iseve, rogorc sxva<br />
kaSxlebis SemTxvevaSi. Tundac<br />
sxva nebismieri tipis kaSxali<br />
rom aviRoT, arc erT SemTxvevaSi<br />
dasabuTeba ar arsebobs.<br />
Tan kabaluri xelSekrulebebia<br />
gaformebuli, maT Soris, moqmedi<br />
xelisuflebis mxridanac,<br />
rac, saboloo jamSi, garemos,<br />
bunebis, eklesiis, adamianebis<br />
Sewirvis xarjze arafers iZleva<br />
saxelmwifosTvis. es yovelive<br />
iseve exeba onis hesebis<br />
kaskads, rogorc sxva nebismier<br />
msgavs SemTxvevas.<br />
_ mgoni, onis hesebis kaska-<br />
dis mSenebloba, jer kidev,<br />
2008 wlisTvis igegmeboda,<br />
xom?<br />
_ ara marto onis hesebis kaskadis<br />
mSenebloba, Tumca dagegmva<br />
da survili es erTia, magram<br />
Semdgari faqti ar yofila<br />
arc maSin da arc axla.<br />
_ acxadeben, winasaproeqto<br />
kvlevebi ukve Catarebulia da<br />
mSenebloba zafxulSi daiwye-<br />
bao.<br />
_ es ase ar aris, realurad,<br />
garemos zemoqmedebis Sefasebis<br />
kvlevac ki ar Catarebula,<br />
arc nebarTva aqvs aRebuli am<br />
kompanias da danaSaulebrivi<br />
praqtikaa, roca aranairi proceduruli,<br />
Tundac minimaluri<br />
mosamzadebeli samuSaoebi<br />
ar aris ganxorcielebuli da<br />
ukve Semdgar faqtad gvasaReben.<br />
es, ubralod, kanonsawinaaRmdego<br />
qmedebaa. amgvar qmedebas<br />
eweoda winamorbedi xelisuflebac.<br />
magaliTad, roca<br />
Tu ar vcdebi, orjer gaixsna<br />
hesis mSenebloba formalurad<br />
da simbolurad kafsulac ki<br />
damarxa. Semdeg ukve RaribaSvilma<br />
gaxsna is da nebarTva<br />
gzaSi daawia dRevandeli garemos<br />
dacvis ministrma gigla<br />
22 N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.
agulaSvilma. Tumca aq ukve ministrebs<br />
da premierministrs<br />
rac Seexeba, yvelani simbolur<br />
figurebad gvevlineba. yvelam<br />
kargad viciT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
piradi neba-surviliT<br />
xorcieldeba msgavsi moqmedebebi.<br />
am procedurebis Tundac<br />
simbolurad dacvasac ar cdiloben,<br />
Tanmimdevrobas ar icaven,<br />
Tu rogor SeiZleba ganxorcieldes<br />
esa Tu is proeqti.<br />
aris calkeuli proeqtebi, romlis<br />
erTaderTi mizania nebismier,<br />
Tundac adamianis sicocxlis<br />
fasad, Tundac unikaluri<br />
bunebrivi da kulturuli memkvidreobis<br />
ganadgurebis fasad,<br />
didi Semosavlebi miiRon<br />
umaRlesi Tanamdebobis pirebma<br />
da, ra Tqma unda, igive biZina<br />
ivaniSvilsac aqvs am yvelaferSi<br />
komerciuli interesi. es<br />
Cemi absoluturad safuZvliani<br />
varaudia, radgan mis gareSe<br />
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`ministrebs da premierministrs rac Seexeba, yvelani simbolur figurebad<br />
gvevlineba. yvelam kargad viciT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis piradi neba-<br />
surviliT xorcieldeba msgavsi moqmedebebi. am procedurebis Tundac<br />
simbolurad dacvasac ar cdiloben, Tanmimdevrobas ar icaven, Tu rogor<br />
SeiZleba ganxorcieldes esa Tu is proeqti. aris calkeuli proeqtebi,<br />
romlis erTaderTi mizania nebismier, Tundac adamianis sicocxlis fasad,<br />
Tundac unikaluri bunebrivi da kulturuli memkvidreobis ganadgurebis<br />
fasad, didi Semosavlebi miiRon umaRlesi Tanamdebobis pirebma da, ra<br />
Tqma unda, igive biZina ivaniSvilsac aqvs am yvelaferSi komerciuli<br />
interesi. es Cemi absoluturad safuZvliani varaudia, radgan mis gareSe am<br />
qveyanaSi aseTi ki ara, gacilebiT humanuri sakiTxebi ar wydeba. meore<br />
mxriv, es aris biujetis Sevsebis, biujetSi arsebuli xvrelebisa Tu ormoebis<br />
amovsebis yovlad miuRebeli praqtika~<br />
am qveyanaSi aseTi ki ara, gacilebiT<br />
humanuri sakiTxebi ar<br />
wydeba. meore mxriv, es aris<br />
biujetis Sevsebis, biujetSi<br />
arsebuli xvrelebisa Tu ormoebis<br />
amovsebis yovlad miuRebeli<br />
praqtika. amgvari moqmedeba<br />
emsgavseba gakotrebuli<br />
adamianis qmedebas, romelic<br />
mzad aris, yvelaferi gayidos,<br />
rom raRac erTi Tu ori<br />
TviT Tavi gadairCinos, Tumca<br />
amas Semdeg ra Sedegamde mihyavs<br />
ojaxi an saxelmwifo, yvelam<br />
kargad viciT.<br />
_ mosaxleoba ras ambobs am<br />
yvelafris Sesaxeb?<br />
_ Cven gvaxsovs „sadmeli hesisa”<br />
da sxva hesebis istoria,<br />
romelmac sakmaod didi saprotesto<br />
talRa gamoiwvia. raWa-<br />
Si aTas kacze meti adgilobrivi<br />
mkvidri Seikriba, rac raWisTvis<br />
kolosaluri cifria.<br />
SeiZleba, vinmes mcire raodenobad<br />
moeCvenos, magram Tu<br />
gaviTvaliswinebT, rom raWa,<br />
praqtikulad, daclilia mosaxleobisgan,<br />
aTasi adamiani ukidures<br />
umravlesobas niSnavs.<br />
bevrs saubroben prioritetebze,<br />
magram, saboloo jamSi,<br />
turistul potencials ase epyrobian,<br />
romelic, upirveles<br />
yovlisa, swored kulturul<br />
da bunebriv memkvidreobas, mis<br />
mravalferovnebas emyareba,<br />
riTac SeiZleba saintereso viyoT<br />
turistul bazarze. hesebisa<br />
da kaSxlebis sanaxavad,<br />
bunebrivia, saqarTveloSi aravin<br />
Camova. amgvar proeqtebs<br />
ekosistema ewireba. Sesabamisad,<br />
aseTi midgoma, ubralod,<br />
moRalateobrivia.<br />
aravis dausabuTebia, arc energetikis<br />
saministros, arc<br />
mTavrobas, rom saqarTvelos,<br />
met-naklebad, gardauvali aucilebloba<br />
gaaCnia damatebiTi,<br />
miT umetes, aseTi msxvili energoobieqtebis<br />
mSeneblobisa<br />
da energiis resursebis, imitom,<br />
rom Cven ar gvaqvs ekonomikuri<br />
politikis ganmsazRvreli<br />
srulfasovani dokumenti.<br />
saerTod, komerciuladac<br />
saeWvoa es proeqtebi, seriozul<br />
STabeWdilebas tovebs,<br />
rom fulis gaTeTrebasTan gvaqvs<br />
saqme. Tundac proeqtis samjer<br />
Tavidan dawyeba tovebs<br />
eWvs, rom aq ukve komerciul<br />
mogebazec aRar aris saubari.<br />
_ SeaCerebs raime mSeneblo-<br />
bas?<br />
_ msgavs danaSaulebriv qmedebebze,<br />
Tavis droze, sabWoTa<br />
kavSirsac ki aTqmevina uari ma-<br />
Sindeli mecnierebisa da sazogadoebis<br />
azrma. maSin es kecxovelis,<br />
gulisaSvilisa da sxva<br />
didi mecnierebisa da sazogado<br />
moRvaweebis, mTeli qarTveli<br />
sazogadoebis damsaxureba<br />
iyo. axlac, am yoveliveze uaris<br />
Tqmisa da SeCerebis erTaderTi<br />
avtori da sawinaaRmdego<br />
mxare sazogadoeba da is calkeuli<br />
adamianebi, specialistebi<br />
arian, romlebic daasabuTeben<br />
(da, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />
dasabuTebuli gvaqvs), rom es<br />
yovelive Zalian mZime da damangreveli<br />
Sedegis momtania.<br />
Tumca Cveni azri mxolod azrad<br />
darCeba, Tu adgilobrivi<br />
mosaxleoba aqtiuri ar iqneba.<br />
da kidev erTi sakiTxi: garda<br />
aqciebisa da samarTlebrivi<br />
gzis gamoyenebisa, didi xania,<br />
vsaubrob, rom Cvens mcire organizacias,<br />
demokratiis instituts,<br />
praqtikulad, aranairi<br />
resursi ar gaaCnia, rom referendumisTvis<br />
aucilebeli saorganizacio<br />
sakiTxebis daZleva<br />
moaxerxos. samwuxarod, am<br />
mimarTulebiT Zalian cota politikuri<br />
organizacia Tu<br />
akeTebs rames.<br />
Zalian kargia, rom Tundac<br />
miwis msxvil kompaniebsa da ucxoeTis<br />
moqalaqeebze gasxvisebis<br />
winaaRmdeg gamodian adamianebi,<br />
magram me maT movuwodebdi,<br />
rom am sakiTxzec ifiqron,<br />
imitom, rom arc gasasxvisebeli<br />
darCeba rame, arc damatebi-<br />
Ti okupaciisgan dasacavi, Tuki<br />
yvela es proeqti da Tundac<br />
maTi mniSvnelovani nawili ganxorcielda.<br />
arada, masStabi<br />
Zalian didia, es ar aris marto<br />
raWa, es aris leCxumi, xevi,<br />
svaneTi, mTiani aWara...<br />
***<br />
`moqmedma mTavrobam kidev erTi hesis<br />
mSenebloba "gvaxara". es aris onis hesebis<br />
kaskadi, romelic didi hesebis kategorias<br />
ganekuTvneba da romelTa akrZalvac moqmedi<br />
xelisuflebis saarCevno dapireba iyo.<br />
winamorbedi xelisufleba aRniSnulis<br />
warmoebas masobrivad, yovelgvari<br />
dasabuTebis gareSe cdilobda da cxadia,<br />
Cveni kritikis obieqti iyo. es ormagad<br />
kargad maxsovs, radgan maSindeli<br />
opoziciis, "qarTuli ocnebis" policiis<br />
garemos dacvis jgufis xelmZRvaneli da asave<br />
maTi programis garemos dacvisa da bunebrivi<br />
resursebis marTvis Tavis avtori gaxldiT.<br />
Sesabamisad, maxsovs, rom iq namdvilad iyo<br />
saubari didi hidroeleqtrosadgurebis<br />
mSeneblobis akrZalvaze, Tumca aRniSnuli<br />
dapirebis darRvevis araerTgzis mcdeloba ki<br />
ara, darRvevac didi xania, ukve saxezea~<br />
onis hesebis kaskadi raWaleCxumisa<br />
da qvemo svaneTis<br />
mxareSi, onis municipalitet-<br />
Si, mdinare rionSi unda aSendes.<br />
rogorc Sps „feris” aRmasrulebeli<br />
direqtori, laSa<br />
iordaniSvili acxadebs, sam-<br />
Seneblo nebarTva, jerjerobiT,<br />
namdvilad ar miuRiaT. sanebarTvo<br />
procedurebi, savaraudod,<br />
3 Tvis vadaSi dasruldeba<br />
da onis hesebis kaskadis<br />
mSeneblobas zafxulSi daiwyeben.<br />
winasaproeqto kvlevebis<br />
angariSi ukve dasrulebulia.<br />
aRniSnuli kvleva germanulma<br />
kompania „la maierma” Caatara,<br />
garemoze zemoqmedebis Sefaseba<br />
ki _ kompania „gamam”.<br />
200-megavatiani hesis (Tavdapirvelad<br />
280 megavatiani hesis<br />
mSenebloba iyo gansazRvruli)<br />
sainvesticio Rirebuleba 335<br />
milioni dolaria.<br />
Sps „feri” hess Tanainvestirebis<br />
fondTan erTad aSenebs.<br />
imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom<br />
garemos naklebi ziani miadges,<br />
iordanaSvilis ganmartebiT,<br />
hess kaSxali ar eqneba, igi modinebaze<br />
imuSavebs. hesis mSenebloba<br />
4-5 weliwadSi unda dasruldes.<br />
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si grZeldeba. samsaxuridan gan-<br />
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mesxi aprotestebs da menejmentis gadawyvetilebas Tavis<br />
profkavSirul moRvaweobas ukavSirebs. mas gaerTianebuli<br />
profkavSirebidan da ombudsmenis aparatidan mxari dauWires.<br />
dRes, samSabaTs, cnobili gaxdeba, Tu ra kompromisul vari-<br />
ants sTavazobs „sazmaus” xelmZRvaneloba gadacemebis av-<br />
torebsa da Jurnalistebs.<br />
„qronika+”-is pirveli respon-<br />
dentia Jurnalisti laSa mesxi:<br />
_ ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb 28<br />
Tebervals Cemma uSualo ufrosma<br />
Sematyobina, axali da mimdinare ambebis<br />
blokis direqtorma gvimraZem.<br />
mokled, CemTan TanamSromlobas<br />
veRar gaagrZlebda da mirCia,<br />
rom Zalebi ara JurnalistikaSi,<br />
aramed sxvagan momesinja, radgan,<br />
rogorc man Tqva, Jurnalistika,<br />
maincdamainc, kargad ar gamomdis.<br />
vfiqrob, es yvelaferi pirdapiri<br />
diskriminaciaa, razec ara marto<br />
me, aramed saxalxo damcveli<br />
da yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani<br />
aqcents akeTebs. Sromis kodeqsis<br />
absoluturi ugulebelyofiT,<br />
camet Jurnalists, erTTviani<br />
kontraqti dagvides. aqedan,<br />
Tvis bolos, ufrosobisTvis miuRebeli<br />
mxolod me gavxdi.<br />
es im realobaSi, rodesac televiziaSi<br />
profesiuli gamocda,<br />
testi, Sefaseba, aranairi msgavsi<br />
procedura CemTan da arc aravisTan<br />
mimarTebiT ar Catarebula,<br />
rac kidev ufro amZafrebs eWvs,<br />
rom es gansxvavebuli azris pirdapiri<br />
diskreditacia, devnaa da, yvelaferTan<br />
erTad, profkavSiruli<br />
saqmianobis Seviwroebaa.<br />
_ profkavSirul saqmianobas<br />
ra formiT ukavSirdeba?<br />
_ Cven wina wlis maisSi sazogadoebriv<br />
mauwyebelSi profesiuli<br />
gaerTianeba SevqmeniT, romelsac<br />
am dromde me vxelmZRvanelob. samsaxurSi<br />
viqnebi Tu ara, mainc profkavSirebis<br />
Tavmjdomared vrCebi.<br />
es, albaT, ver gaTvales.<br />
amas plus maisis movlenebs Tu<br />
gavixsenebT, Cven koleqtiuri dava<br />
gamoviyeneT, anu saprotesto aqciaze<br />
davimuqreT, rom 21 dReSi<br />
gavificebodiT (es moambis srul<br />
paralizebas niSnavda). maSin, koleqtiuli<br />
davis mixedviT, saxelmwifos<br />
SuamavlobiT movrigdiT. sazogadoebriv<br />
mauwyebelSi 600-ze<br />
met damians 10 da 20%-iT xelfasi<br />
gaezarda, maT Soris, im adamianebs,<br />
romlebic Cveni gaerTianebis wevrebi<br />
ar iyvnen.<br />
rasakvirvelia, es menejmentis-<br />
Tvis miuRebeli iyo. aseve sxvadasxva<br />
darRvevaze xmamaRla vsaubrobdi<br />
da axali menejmentis mosvlis<br />
Semdegac, ra Tqma unda, vambobdi,<br />
rom dasaqmebuli mTavari<br />
prioritetia da ar SeiZleba, ase<br />
erTi xelis mosmiT adamianebi samsaxuridan<br />
daiTxovo. Sesabamisad,<br />
profesiuli kavSiris es da sxva aqtivobebi<br />
maTTvis miuRebeli iyo<br />
da amis gamo me dRes saxlSi var.<br />
_ ras apirebT?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, am yvelafers ar<br />
SeveguebiT, radgan es CvenTvis Rirsebis<br />
saqmea. amasTan pirdapir<br />
getyviT, rom ara marto samarTlebriv,<br />
aramed sxvadasxva saprotesto<br />
formasac gamoviyenebT am ukanonobis,<br />
sruli sibnelisa da diskriminaciis<br />
aRmosafxvrelad.<br />
sworad rom agixsnaT, es aris<br />
24<br />
pirdapiri mesiji sxva TanamSromlebisTvis,<br />
romlebic „bedaven” da<br />
dRemde menejments upirispirdebian.<br />
ai, Tu Tqven ase mesxiviT xmas<br />
amoiRebT, igive bedi geliTo. es ar<br />
gauvaT. diax, Cven gamowveva miRebuli<br />
gvaqvs da aqedan gamarjvebis<br />
gareSe ar gavalT.<br />
_ ras gegmaven sxva JurnalistebTan,<br />
gadacemebTan mimarTe-<br />
biT?<br />
_ maTi qmedebebi absoluturad<br />
gaugebaria da erTmaneTTan TanxvedraSi<br />
ar modis. problema aqvs<br />
gadacema „realur sivrces”, romelsac<br />
raRac gaugebari kontraqtebi<br />
daudes. nino zautaSvili,<br />
TiTqos, moambis TanamSromlad<br />
unda gadaeyvanaT, razec misgan,<br />
rasakvirvelia, uari miiRes. aseve<br />
principul uars miiReben yvela im<br />
gadawyvetilebaze, romelic dasaqmebulTan<br />
SeTanxmebuli (misTvis<br />
misaRebi) ar iqneba.<br />
droa, wina menejmentis gamocdileba<br />
kargad gaiziaros axalma menejmentma,<br />
romelSic, principSi,<br />
erTi kaci, vasil maRlaferiZea axali.<br />
danarCeni yvela kohabitirebuli<br />
Zveli menejeria, romelTac<br />
es mauwyebeli daaqcies.<br />
Sesabamisad, maT win kargi gakveTili<br />
aqvT. Cven realuri cvlilebebi<br />
gvinda da es imiT ar unda<br />
iwyebodes, rom gansxvavebul azrs<br />
Tavidan iSorebdnen. Tu Cven sworeba<br />
evrokavSirze, „bibisisa” da<br />
„sienenis” standartebze gvaqvs,<br />
TanamSromlebs sabWoTa meTodebiT<br />
ar unda vebrZodeT.<br />
sapasuxo komentarisTvis sazogadoebrivi<br />
mauwyeblis generaluri<br />
direqtoris, vasil maR-<br />
laferiZis mrCevels _ ia anTaZes<br />
davukavSirdiT:<br />
_ iciT, albaT, rom laSa mesxs<br />
laSa mesxi<br />
vasil maRlaferiZe<br />
ra iqneba maRlaferiZe-<br />
anTaZis axali SeTavazeba?!<br />
xelSekrulebis vada daumTavrda<br />
da misma uSualo ufrosebma gadawyvites,<br />
aRar gaugrZelon. xelSekruleba<br />
imitom arsebobs, rom<br />
rodesac misi vada amoiwureba,<br />
gagrZeldes, an ar gagrZeldes. amas<br />
is adamianebi wyveten, visTanac<br />
uSualod muSaobs piri, visac xelSekrulebis<br />
vada umTavrdeba.<br />
Sexvedrisas vasil maRlaferiZem<br />
mas uTxra, rom ramdenadac<br />
iuridiuli samsaxuri ambobs, am<br />
gadawyvetilebaSi raime darRveva<br />
ar aris, _ erTaderTi sasamarTlos<br />
gza rCeba da Tu sasamarTlo<br />
gadawyvets, darRveviT ganTavisuflda,<br />
me viqnebi pirveli, vinc mis<br />
ukan dabrunebas mogilocavT da<br />
siamovnebiT viTanamSromlebTo;<br />
Cvens iuridiul samsaxursac<br />
ecodineba, rom Secdoma dauSvao.<br />
_ laSa mesxi masTan gaforme-<br />
bul erTTvian xelSekrulebaze<br />
saubrobs. es ramdenad marTebuli<br />
damokidebulebaa TanamSrom-<br />
lis mimarT?<br />
_ amaze komentars ver gavake-<br />
Teb. erTaderTi Cveni organizaciis<br />
iuridiuli samsaxuris komentari<br />
maqvs, romelic ambobs, rom<br />
araviTari kanondarRveva, arc erT<br />
etapze, laSasTan urTierTobaSi<br />
ar yofila. swored amitom saWiroa<br />
sasamarTlo, rom man iuridiuli<br />
procedurebis kuTxiT gaarkvios,<br />
laSa aris marTali (roca ambobs,<br />
rom iq Secdoma dauSves), Tu Cveni<br />
iuridiuli samsaxuri (romelic<br />
ambobs, rom Secdoma ar dauSviaT)?<br />
iuristi ar var da mxolod imas<br />
vimeoreb, rac orive mxridan mesmis.<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT Cemi azri,<br />
ubralod, ar SeiZleba mqondes,<br />
radgan ufro kompetenturi ver<br />
iqneba, vidre Cveni iuridiuli samsaxuris<br />
poziciaa.<br />
_ rogor gagrZeldeba reformis<br />
procesi satelevizio gadacemebTan,<br />
maT Soris, nino zautaSvilis<br />
„realur sivrcesTan” mima-<br />
rTebiT?<br />
_ es saintereso Temaa, radgan<br />
samSabaTs sameurveo sabWos sxdoma<br />
aris daniSnuli. vfiqrobT, rom<br />
es procesi samSabaTs damTavrdeba,<br />
rodesac Cven da sameurveo sabWo<br />
reformis gasatareblad iseT<br />
gzas veZebdiT, romelic misaRebi<br />
iqneboda rogorc maTTvis, aseve<br />
CvenTvis.<br />
is, rom reforma da cvlilebebi<br />
aucilebelia, amaze ar vdaobdiT<br />
da pirvelive Sexvedrisas<br />
SevTanxmdiT. oRond sadavo iyo<br />
gza, es reforma rogor unda gatarebuliyo.<br />
Cven ufro grZel<br />
nabijs vTavazobdiT reformisken,<br />
anu mis ufro swrafad Catarebas<br />
da dasrulebas. Tumca sabWos miaCnia,<br />
rom sjobs reforma droSi<br />
gaxangrZlivdes, Sedegi ufro gvian<br />
gvqondes da, am etapze, es Zalian<br />
mtkivneuli ar iyos. maqsimalurad<br />
umtkivneulo iyos rogorc Tanam-<br />
SromlebisTvis, aseve mayureblisTvisac.<br />
raRac kompromisuli gza mov-<br />
ZebneT da samSabaTs es versia ukve<br />
`ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb 28 Tebervals Cemma<br />
uSualo ufrosma Sematyobina, axali da<br />
mimdinare ambebis blokis direqtorma gvimraZem.<br />
mokled, CemTan TanamSromlobas veRar<br />
gaagrZlebda da mirCia, rom Zalebi ara<br />
JurnalistikaSi, aramed sxvagan momesinja,<br />
radgan, rogorc man Tqva, Jurnalistika,<br />
maincdamainc, kargad ar gamomdis.<br />
vfiqrob, es yvelaferi pirdapiri diskriminaciaa,<br />
razec ara marto me, aramed saxalxo damcveli<br />
da yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani aqcents<br />
akeTebs. Sromis kodeqsis absoluturi<br />
ugulebelyofiT, camet Jurnalists, erTTviani<br />
kontraqti dagvides. aqedan, Tvis bolos,<br />
ufrosobisTvis miuRebeli mxolod me gavxdi. es<br />
im realobaSi, rodesac televiziaSi profesiuli<br />
gamocda, testi, Sefaseba, aranairi msgavsi<br />
procedura CemTan da arc aravisTan mimarTebiT<br />
ar Catarebula, rac kidev ufro amZafrebs eWvs,<br />
rom es gansxvavebuli azris pirdapiri<br />
diskreditacia, devnaa da, yvelaferTan erTad,<br />
profkavSiruli saqmianobis Seviwroebaa~<br />
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mZime samSabaTi<br />
`samSabaTs sameurveo sabWos sxdoma aris<br />
daniSnuli. vfiqrobT, rom es procesi samSabaTs<br />
damTavrdeba, rodesac Cven da sameurveo sabWo<br />
reformis gasatareblad iseT gzas veZebdiT,<br />
romelic misaRebi iqneboda rogorc maTTvis,<br />
aseve CvenTvis. is, rom reforma da cvlilebebi<br />
aucilebelia, amaze ar vdaobdiT da pirvelive<br />
Sexvedrisas SevTanxmdiT. oRond sadavo iyo gza,<br />
es reforma rogor unda gatarebuliyo. Cven<br />
ufro grZel nabijs vTavazobdiT reformisken,<br />
anu mis ufro swrafad Catarebas da dasrulebas.<br />
Tumca sabWos miaCnia, rom sjobs reforma droSi<br />
gaxangrZlivdes, Sedegi ufro gvian gvqondes da,<br />
am etapze, es Zalian mtkivneuli ar iyos.<br />
maqsimalurad umtkivneulo iyos rogorc<br />
TanamSromlebisTvis, aseve mayureblisTvisac.<br />
raRac kompromisuli gza movZebneT da samSabaTs<br />
es versia ukve sazogadoebisTvis cnobili iqneba,<br />
anu versia, romelzec mmarTveli gundi da<br />
sameurveo sabWo SevjerdiT~<br />
sazogadoebisTvis cnobili iqneba,<br />
anu versia, romelzec mmarTveli<br />
gundi da sameurveo sabWo SevjerdiT.<br />
nino zautaSvili<br />
nino zautaSvili _ sateleviz-<br />
io gadacema „realuri sivrcis”<br />
wamyvani:<br />
_ me mxolod is vici, rac Tqven.<br />
isini gegmas samSabaTs warmoadgenen<br />
da Sesabamisad, Cvenc yvelafers<br />
maSin gavigebT. simarTle gi-<br />
TxraT, am wuTSi aranairi warmodgena<br />
ar maqvs, ra gegmazea saubari,<br />
radgan farTo auditorias pirvelad<br />
warudgenen. gadawyvetilebasac<br />
amis mixedviT miviRebT.<br />
laSa mesxis samsaxuridan gaSvebas<br />
saqarTvelos metalurgiu-<br />
li, samTo da qimiuri mrewvelob-<br />
is muSakTa profesiuli kavSiris<br />
Tavmjdomare, Tamaz dalaberiZe<br />
afasebs:<br />
_ saqarTvelos metalurgiuli,<br />
samTo da qimiuri mrewvelobis<br />
muSakTa profesiuli kavSiri gmobs<br />
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis profesiuli<br />
kavSiris lideris, laSa<br />
mesxis samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebas<br />
da am faqts afasebs, rogorc<br />
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis administraciis<br />
pirdapir Setevas dasaqmebulTa<br />
im fundamentur da ganuxrel<br />
uflebebze, romelic maT<br />
eniWebaT saqarTvelos konstituciiT,<br />
saerTaSoriso konvenciebiT<br />
da saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT.<br />
civilizebuli Tanamedrove<br />
msoflio SeTanxmebulia, rom profesiuli<br />
kavSiri aris dasaqmebul-<br />
Ta gaerTianeba, romelic warmoadgens<br />
wevrTa interesebs da ufleba<br />
aqvs, damsaqmebelTan awarmoos<br />
koleqtiuri molaparakebebi, monawileoba<br />
miiRos koleqtiuri SromiTi<br />
davebis mogvarebis procesSi,<br />
N8 (185) 7.03-13.03.2017 w.<br />
ia anTaZe<br />
`me mxolod is vici, rac Tqven. isini gegmas samSabaTs<br />
warmoadgenen da Sesabamisad, Cvenc yvelafers maSin<br />
gavigebT. simarTle giTxraT, am wuTSi aranairi<br />
warmodgena ar maqvs, ra gegmazea saubari, radgan<br />
farTo auditorias pirvelad warudgenen.<br />
gadawyvetilebasac amis mixedviT miviRebT~<br />
kanoniT daSvebuli yvela meTodis<br />
gamoyenebiT gamovides dasaqmebulTa<br />
uflebebis dasacavad.<br />
Sromis saerTaSoriso organizaciis<br />
umTavresi standarti,<br />
„sammxrivi socialuri dialogi”,<br />
swored imas gulisxmobs, rom profesiuli<br />
kavSiri aris socialuri<br />
partnioris statusis matarebeli<br />
institucia da socialur partniorebs<br />
Soris Tanabaruflebianobisa<br />
da Tanasworobis principebis<br />
dasacavad, profkavSiris liderTa<br />
dacvis garantiebi kanonmdeblobebiT<br />
aris gamyarebuli, magaliTad:<br />
saqarTvelos konstitucia _<br />
muxli 26:<br />
1. yvelas aqvs sazogadoebrivi<br />
gaerTianebebis, maT Soris, profesiuli<br />
kavSirebis Seqmnisa da maT-<br />
Si gaerTianebis ufleba.<br />
saqarTvelos kanoni profesiuli<br />
kavSirebis Sesaxeb _ muxli 23:<br />
3. dauSvebelia damsaqmebelTa<br />
iniciativiT, Sesabamisi profkav-<br />
Siruli organos winaswari Tanxmobis<br />
gareSe, ZiriTad samuSaoze<br />
dasaqmebuli arCeviTi profkavSiruli<br />
organos Tavmjdomaris, wevris,<br />
proforganizatorisa da profjguforgis<br />
samuSaodan daTxovna,<br />
sxva samuSaoze gadayvana, an disciplinuri<br />
wesiT dasja, garda kanonmdeblobiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli SemTxvevebisa.<br />
saqarTvelos kanoni profesiuli<br />
kavSirebis Sesaxeb _ muxli 24:<br />
2. profkavSirul organoSi ar-<br />
Ceuli muSakis damsaqmeblis iniciativiT<br />
daTxovna misi arCeviTi<br />
uflebamosilebis damTavrebis<br />
Semdeg ar SeiZleba erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
garda kanonmdeblobiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli SemTxvevebisa.<br />
iqidan gamomdinare, rom sazogadoebrivi<br />
mauwyebeli ar gaxlavT<br />
kerZo kompania da misi marTva xorcieldeba<br />
saxelmwifo meqanizmebis<br />
gamoyenebiT, sazogadoebrivi<br />
mauwyeblis profesiuli kavSiris<br />
Tamaz dolaberiZe<br />
`civilizebuli Tanamedrove msoflio<br />
SeTanxmebulia, rom profesiuli kavSiri aris<br />
dasaqmebulTa gaerTianeba, romelic warmoadgens<br />
wevrTa interesebs da ufleba aqvs,<br />
damsaqmebelTan awarmoos koleqtiuri<br />
molaparakebebi, monawileoba miiRos koleqtiuri<br />
SromiTi davebis mogvarebis procesSi, kanoniT<br />
daSvebuli yvela meTodis gamoyenebiT gamovides<br />
dasaqmebulTa uflebebis dasacavad. Sromis<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciis umTavresi<br />
standarti, "sammxrivi socialuri dialogi",<br />
swored imas gulisxmobs, rom profesiuli<br />
kavSiri aris socialuri partnioris statusis<br />
matarebeli institucia da socialur<br />
partniorebs Soris Tanabaruflebianobisa da<br />
Tanasworobis principebis dasacavad,<br />
profkavSiris liderTa dacvis garantiebi<br />
kanonmdeblobebiT aris gamyarebuli~<br />
arCeuli lideris, laSa mesxis samsaxuridan<br />
ganTavisuflebas vafasebT,<br />
rogorc saxelmwifos mier<br />
Cadenil ukanono, danaSaulebriv<br />
da diskriminaciul qmedebas, rac<br />
saqarTvelosTvis reputacias<br />
aucileblad daazianebs.<br />
migvaCnia, rom saxelmwifo Tavad<br />
unda iyos sityvisa da azris gamoxatvis<br />
Tavisuflebis, asociaciis<br />
Tavisuflebisa da, zogadad, kanonmdeblobis<br />
dacvis garanti, Sesabamisad,<br />
saqarTvelos metalurgiuli,<br />
samTo da qimiuri mrewvelobis<br />
muSakTa profesiuli kav-<br />
Siri mouwodebs sazogadoebrivi<br />
mauwyeblis administracias, _ saswrafod<br />
Secvalos sakuTari gadawyvetileba.<br />
sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblidan<br />
Jurnalistis ganTavisuflebas<br />
saxalxo damcveli exmianeba:<br />
_ saqarTvelos saxalxo damcveli<br />
exmianeba sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblidan<br />
„moambis” Jurnalistis,<br />
laSa mesxis ganTavisuflebis<br />
faqts, vinaidan miiCnevs, rom aRniSnuli<br />
SemTxveva SesaZloa, warmoadgendes<br />
gansxvavebuli mosazrebisa<br />
da profesiuli kavSiris<br />
wevrobis gamo diskriminacias.<br />
rogorc saxalxo damcvelis-<br />
Tvis aris cnobili, laSi mesxis<br />
ganTavisuflebis safuZveli mas-<br />
Tan dadebuli erTTviani xelSekrulebis<br />
vadis gasvla gaxda. gavr-<br />
`saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom, am etapze, ucnobia, ra<br />
legitimur mizans emsaxureboda mxolod laSa mesxis<br />
samsaxuridan ganTavisufleba. amasTan, im pirobebSi,<br />
rodesac Jurnalisti menejmentis mimarT mis<br />
gansxvavebul da kritikul mosazrebebsa da profesiul<br />
kavSirSi aqtiur saqmianobaze miuTiTebs, sazogadoebriv<br />
mauwyebels pasuxismgebloba ekisreba, gansakuTrebiT<br />
wonadi argumentebi warmoadginos da daasabuTos, rom<br />
Jurnalisti samsaxuridan diskriminaciuli safuZvliT<br />
ar ganTavisuflebula~<br />
celebuli informaciiT, is erTaderTi<br />
ganTavisuflebuli piria im<br />
13 dasaqmebulidan, romelTa<br />
erTTviani xelSekrulebis vada amoiwura.<br />
saxalxo damcveli aRniSnavs,<br />
rom erTTviani xelSekrulebis vadis<br />
gasvlis mizeziT SromiTi ur-<br />
TierTobis Sewyveta da kanonis farglebSi<br />
samsaxuridan ganTavisufleba<br />
ar gamoricxavs diskriminaciis<br />
arsebobis varauds. xSir SemTxvevaSi,<br />
samsaxuridan diskriminaciuli<br />
safuZvliT ganTavisuflebisTvis<br />
swored moklevadiani<br />
xelSekrulebebi gamoiyeneba.<br />
saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom,<br />
am etapze, ucnobia, ra legitimur<br />
mizans emsaxureboda mxolod laSa<br />
mesxis samsaxuridan ganTavisufleba.<br />
amasTan, im pirobebSi, rodesac<br />
Jurnalisti menejmentis mimarT<br />
mis gansxvavebul da kritikul<br />
mosazrebebsa da profesiul<br />
kavSirSi aqtiur saqmianobaze<br />
miuTiTebs, sazogadoebriv mauwyebels<br />
pasuxismgebloba ekisreba,<br />
gansakuTrebiT wonadi argumentebi<br />
warmoadginos da daasabuTos,<br />
rom Jurnalisti samsaxuridan diskriminaciuli<br />
safuZvliT ar gan-<br />
Tavisuflebula.<br />
saxalxo damcveli momavalSic<br />
aqtiurad daakvirdeba sazogadoebriv<br />
mauwyebelSi mimdinare movlenebs.<br />
uCa nanuaSvili<br />
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eraciis Semdeg kidev xuTi operaciis Catareba gaxda saWiro<br />
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safrangeTis `renes~<br />
37 wlis lela doliZes pirveli<br />
`mand eqimebi<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
operacia klinika „lancetSi”<br />
577 10 07 06 gaukeTes. axalgazrda qals naRv-<br />
lis buSti awuxebda da misi amokve-<br />
laparaskopiuli op-<br />
arian Tu yasbebi?!~<br />
movlenebs cota win gada-<br />
vuswrebT:<br />
„safrangeTidan pasuxi Camogvivida,<br />
yasbebTan gyavdaT Tqveni<br />
Svili, Tu eqimebTano?! ra<br />
xalxia am saqarTveloSi, mTeli<br />
organizmi saceriviT daCvretilia.<br />
gviTxres, rom es ar aris<br />
operacia. vinc es Caatara, im eqims<br />
sxva rame ainteresebdao”.<br />
lela doliZe 2016 wlis 22<br />
noembers gardaicvala.<br />
„qronika+”-s gardacvlili<br />
lela doliZis deda, nino<br />
doliZe esaubreba:<br />
_ Cems qaliSvils araferi awuxebda.<br />
yovelTvis yuradRebiT<br />
ekideboda Tavis janmrTelobas<br />
_ eqvs TveSi erTxel gadioda<br />
gamokvlevas. 2015 wlis TebervalSi<br />
TianeTSi CemTan stumrad<br />
iyo Camosuli. marjvena ferdi<br />
astkivda da vuTxari, _ wadi, Svilo<br />
eqims anaxe-meTqi. _ bavSvebi<br />
rogor dagitovoo? da ZaliT<br />
gavuSvi. xuTSabaTi dRe iyo. saavadmyofoSi<br />
rom mivida, mxolod<br />
xeliT gasinjes da yovelgvari<br />
gamokvlevisa da analizebis gareSe<br />
naRvlis buStis saswrafo operaciaze<br />
gauSves. meore dRes,<br />
anu paraskevs CauniSnes operacia.<br />
ise gaikeTa operacia, rom arc me<br />
da arc misma qmarma mizezi ar vicodiT.<br />
faqtobrivad, mofiqrebis<br />
saSualebac ar mogvces. me ori<br />
patara SviliSvili myavda datovebuli.<br />
paraskevs gaukeTes operacia,<br />
magram SabaTs ise cudad<br />
gaxda, kviras Rame meore operaciaze<br />
gaiyvanes. Semdgomi erTi<br />
kvira Cemi qaliSvili Zalian mZimed<br />
iyo. eqimebs vexvewebodi, damalaparakeT-meTqi<br />
da misi xma<br />
rom gavigone, ver vicani, _ Ti-<br />
Tqos saiqiodan modioda. miTxra,<br />
ar inerviulo, kargad var, ubralod,<br />
muceli mebereba, tkivilebi<br />
maqvs da guli merevao. egreve<br />
eqims davureke, Temur mgeliaSvils,<br />
metsaxelad „jubos”. _<br />
ra xdeba Cemi Svilis Tavs eqimomeTqi?<br />
mipasuxa, _ kargad aris da<br />
unda gamovweroo. veubnebi, _ wuxel,<br />
Ramis 2 saaTze gaukeTes gamayuCebeli<br />
da ra unda gamoweromeTqi?<br />
_ ara, kargad ariso. _ juba<br />
eqimo, etyoba, eqTnebi gatyueben,<br />
Zalian cudad aris Cemi gogo-meTqi.<br />
_ kargi, waval, vnaxavo.<br />
wavida Cemi qaliSvilis sanaxavad<br />
da saswrafod saoperacioSi<br />
Seiyvana.<br />
_ mesamed?<br />
_ diax. saRamos 9 saaTze Seiyvanes<br />
da Ramis 2 saaTze gamoiyvanes.<br />
anu mesame operacia 23-24<br />
dekembers gakeTda. 30 dekembers,<br />
SabaT dRes, drenaJebCadgmuli<br />
26<br />
avadmyofi saxlSi gamomigzavna.<br />
Cems Svils Sin Zalian daumZimda<br />
mdgomareoba. Temur mgeliaSvils<br />
davureke da veubnebi, _ Zalian<br />
cudad aris, sistematuri sicxeebi<br />
aqvs da gulisrevebi-meTqi.<br />
ra mipasuxa, iciT? _ ara uSavs,<br />
mwnili SeWamos da gauvliso.<br />
avuyvirdi, _ ras matyueb 70 wlis<br />
qals, axlad naoperaciebze, Tan<br />
mravaljeradad, ra mwnili unda<br />
mivce-meTqi? mokled, bevri rom<br />
aRar gavagrZelo, Zalian damZimda<br />
saxlSi. Cems Svils veRar vSvelodi.<br />
2016 wlis 16 ianvars kinaRam<br />
komaSi Camivarda, amitom<br />
saswrafos gamovuZaxeT, romelmac<br />
TianeTis klinikaSi gadaiyvana.<br />
iq eqimebi ise SeSindnen, rom<br />
egreve katastrofis centris manqana<br />
gamoiZaxes.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ me araferi miTxres da 17<br />
ianvars „katastrofis centris”<br />
saswrafoTi klinika „niu viJen-<br />
Si” gadagviyvanes. iq aleqsandre<br />
caluRelaSvilma, metsaxelad<br />
„biWikom”, reanimaciaSi daawvina<br />
da gadasxmebi daudga. ramdenime<br />
dRis Semdeg palataSi gadmoiyvanes<br />
da maleve „ingoroyvas” klinikaSi<br />
malxaz mizandarTan gagvagzavnes.<br />
am ukanasknelma RviZl-<br />
Si ganmeorebiTi drenaJi Caudga.<br />
_ qalbatono nino, ra diag-<br />
nozi dausves Tqvens Svils?<br />
_ rogorc „lancetSi” misma<br />
mkurnalma eqimma gviTxra, naRvlis<br />
buSti iyo saoperacio, magram<br />
jer orTaWalaSi, Semdeg ki<br />
„ingoroyvas” klinikaSi gakeTebuli<br />
kompiuteruli tomogramis<br />
Semdeg aRmoCnda, rom mTavari<br />
sadinari iyo amoWrili, romliTac<br />
naRveli naRvlis buStidan<br />
Tormetgoja nawlavSi gadadis.<br />
Sedegad, es naRveli pirdapir<br />
iRvreboda muclis RruSi,<br />
amitom ebereboda muceli da<br />
sicxeebi hqonda.<br />
_ anu organizmis intoqsika-<br />
cia xdeboda?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ „ingoroyvaSi” giTxres, rom<br />
mTavari sadinari iyo amoWrili?<br />
_ diax, magram manamde „niu<br />
hospitalSi” viyaviT kompiuterul<br />
tomogramaze da iq eqimma<br />
Semogvixaza, ZafiviT wvrili sadinari<br />
iyo datovebuli da mTavari<br />
sadinari ki amoWrilio.<br />
_ malxaz mizandarma ra<br />
giTxraT?<br />
_ araferi. arc erTi eqimi am<br />
operaciis Semdeg xmas ar iRebda.<br />
ase Sevcqerodi yvelas, iqneb,<br />
rame miTxran-meTqi, magram sul<br />
tyuilad. marto orTaWalis<br />
klinikaSi ganmimartes mizezebi.<br />
amis Semdeg jandacvis saminis-<br />
`lelas deda Tavze adga erT-erT klinikaSi. im<br />
klinikis saxelia `niu viJeni~. iatakze iwva<br />
sacodavad qali, sawoli rom ar miutanes,<br />
oRond ki misi Svilis gverdiT yofiliyo. es<br />
aris Tqveni humanuroba?! pacients bolo 8-<br />
saaTiani operaciis Semdeg eqTani cudad<br />
eqceoda. reanimaciaSi myof pacients saxeSi<br />
wyali Seasxa, imis gamo, rom sTxova, wesierad<br />
damalevineo. lelam rom gviTxra, cudad<br />
meqceviano, vikiTxeT, ratom? - asec rom<br />
veqceviT, madlobeli iyoso. eqimi TiTis qneviT<br />
dagvemuqra, wynarad iyaviT, xom xedavT, stenti<br />
amovarda, es SemTxveviT ar moxdebodao. dro<br />
mova da yvelaferze ageben pasuxs!~<br />
tros mivmarTe dasafinanseblad,<br />
manamde ki Cemi gogo Zalian cudad<br />
gaxda. sistematuri gulis<br />
revebi hqonda, rasac sisxls ayolebda.<br />
sisxls ayolebda Sardsac.<br />
„niu viJenSi” gviTxres, rom<br />
operacia mxolod eqvsi Tvis mere<br />
gakeTdeboda, manamde unda<br />
imkurnaloso.<br />
_ amjerad risi operacia<br />
unda gakeTebuliyo?<br />
_ sadinari xom aRar arsebobda<br />
da es problema unda moegvarebinaT.<br />
dasalevad xelovnuri<br />
naRveli misces. ver dalia. maSin<br />
„piviT” dalieo da „piviT” asmevdnen...<br />
_ raRac saswauls miyvebiT a-<br />
xla. jer mwnili, axla „piva”. Tu<br />
SeiZleba, damikonkreteT _ risi<br />
operacia gaukeTda Tqvens<br />
Svils sul pirvelad „lancet-<br />
Si”?!<br />
_ sul pirvelad rom gavige,<br />
Cems Svils operacias „lancetSi”<br />
ukeTebdnen, egreve davureke<br />
eqims da vkiTxe. mipasuxa, _ nino,<br />
naRveli gaskdomaze aris da wesiT,<br />
dResve unda gamekeTebina operacia,<br />
magram naWami iyo da dilaze<br />
gadavitaneo. laparaskopia<br />
unda gavakeToo. me vuTxari, rom<br />
gaeWra. Cemi gogo „lancetSi” mu-<br />
Saobda eqTnad da imanac uTxra.<br />
kargio, me ra problema maqvs,<br />
gavWrio. Sevida saoperacioSi da<br />
mainc laparaskopia gaukeTa. es,<br />
erTi mxriv, imitom aris kargi,<br />
rom kompiuteridan operaciis<br />
videodiski amoviReT me maqvs<br />
Senaxuli.<br />
_ kargiT, „niu viJenidan” sax-<br />
lSi gamogweres. mere ra xdeba?<br />
_ ki gamogvweres, magram yovel<br />
meoTxe dRes cudad xdeboda<br />
da taqsiT CavdiodiT Tiane-<br />
Tidan. 100 lars taqsSi vixdidiT,<br />
erT Rames iq vaTevdiT, iqac<br />
100 lars vixdidiT da gavida es<br />
eqvsi Tve wvalebaSi. ivnisSi Cems<br />
gogos „niu viJenSi” gaukeTes<br />
operacia. eqimma aleqsandre caluRelaSvilma<br />
gviTxra, rom sam<br />
saaTSi gamoviyvanTo da aTi saa-<br />
Ti gagrZelda operacia. plast-<br />
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klinika `lancetze~:<br />
ikuri sadinari unda gaekeTebinaT.<br />
Cemi gogo saoperaciodan<br />
isev sami drenaJiT gamoiyvanes.<br />
is aTsaaTiani operacia ra iyo,<br />
an ra gaakeTes, ar vici. wesiT,<br />
drenaJebi aRar unda hqonoda.<br />
naRvlis wvenis daleva isev gaagrZelebines.<br />
am operaciis Semdeg<br />
yvelaze metad damZimda. 2016<br />
wlis 7 seqtembers ase sami drenaJiT<br />
gavuSviT safrangeTSi.<br />
_ safrangeTSi vin gagiSvaT?<br />
_ gagiJebuli deda viyavi da<br />
aRar vicodi, ra meqna. axlobelma<br />
mirCia, saelCos mimarTeo.<br />
arafris imedi ar mqonda, magram<br />
mainc mivmarTe safrangeTis saelCos<br />
da isini damexmarnen. Svili<br />
safrangeTSi, „renes” saavadmyofoSi<br />
gamigzavnes. iqidan iciT, ra<br />
pasuxi Camovida?! _ es ra gamogvigzavneT,<br />
yasbebTan gyavdaT<br />
mand Tu eqimebTano? ra xalxia<br />
am saqarTveloSi, mTeli organizmi<br />
saceriviT daCvretiliao.<br />
_ gasagebad miTxariT frangi<br />
eqimebis pasuxi?<br />
_ pasuxi iyo aseTi: es ar aris<br />
operacia. vinc es Caatara, imas<br />
sxva rame ainteresebdao.<br />
_ ra?<br />
_ axla rom vTqva, miCivleben<br />
egeni da Tqven hkiTxeT im frang<br />
eqimebs. imaT arc arafris eSiniaT<br />
da arc malaven. Cemi Svili<br />
safrangeTidan Camovida da 2016<br />
wlis 22 noembers gardaicvala.<br />
_ gardacvalebis mizezi ra<br />
dagiweres?<br />
_ ori kviraa sabuTebs velodebiT.<br />
imis SiSic gvaqvs, rom<br />
sabuTebi ar dagvimalon, an ar<br />
gaayalbon. axla, paralelurad,<br />
saqarTvelos saelCos davukav-<br />
SirdiT safrangeTSi da iqidan<br />
velodebiT pasuxs. iqac xom Cautares<br />
Cems Svils gamokvleva. sami<br />
Tve ibrZodnen misi sicocxlis<br />
gadasarCenad da uSedegod. rogorc<br />
ki safrangeTSi moxvda, im<br />
wuTSi moxsnes yvela drenaJi da<br />
xelovnuri naRvelis miReba. 9<br />
Tve rogor gauZlo amis miRebas,<br />
es rogor SeiZlebodao?! mTeli<br />
organizmi infeqciiT hqonda mowamluli.<br />
_ vin gelaparakebodaT amis<br />
Sesaxeb?<br />
_ safrangeTSi axlobeli<br />
gvyavs da is elaparakeboda eqimebs.<br />
_ Tqveni qaliSvilis gardacvalebis<br />
Semdeg ar daukavSirdiT<br />
mis mkurnal eqims „lan-<br />
cetSi”?<br />
_ ra dakavSireba unda, TianeTelia<br />
da Cvens mezoblad cxovrobs.<br />
televiziebidan iyvnen amosulebi,<br />
yvela Cagvweres da<br />
meubnebian, eqimi ar axsenoo. me<br />
vuTxari, _ Tu eqimi ar unda vaxseno,<br />
maSin siuJeti raze unda<br />
gaakeToT-meTqi? hoda, arc gaakeTes.<br />
„lancetis” kedlebi ras<br />
miSlis me! mkurnali eqimia CemTvis<br />
mTavari, vinc operacia gaukeTa.<br />
TavisiT xom ar mokvda<br />
Cemi Svili?!<br />
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`lelas meuRle da ori mcirewlovani Svili<br />
darCa. naRvlis tkivilebi daewyo da am<br />
arasaimedo klinikaSi moxvda, sadac operacia<br />
vinme Temur mgeliaSvilma gaukeTa. rogorc<br />
gavigeT, Secdoma mosvliaT da naRvelma<br />
sadinarebidan gamoJona. lelas peritoniti<br />
daewyo, eqimebi ki am Zlier tkivilebs mis<br />
emociur mdgomareobas abralebdnen. lelas<br />
saqarTveloSi eqvsi operacia gaukeTes da arc<br />
erT operaciaze ar miuRia daxmareba klinika<br />
"lancetidan". eqimebi pasuxismgeblobas<br />
gaurbian. ori mcirewlovani Svilis deda 40 kg<br />
iyo wonaSi, dazianebuli hqonda yvela<br />
sacicocxlo organo. mTelma saqarTvelom<br />
unda gaigos, klinika "lancetSi" rogor<br />
eqcevian pacientebs~<br />
_ jandacvis saministroSi<br />
dawereT gancxadeba?<br />
_ davwere. Cemi Svili cocxali<br />
rom dabrunebuliyo, maSin<br />
yvelafers daviviwyebdi, magram<br />
magaT mokles. mere, TviTon<br />
aleqsandre caluRelaSvili exveweboda<br />
„lancets”, davawvino-<br />
To, imitom rom veRar avudiodiT<br />
dafinansebebs, Tanac iq<br />
moxda is Secdoma da „lanceti”<br />
uars eubneboda. iciT, ra Tqvens<br />
Cvenze, _ mag pacientma klinika<br />
zaralze dasvao!<br />
_ vin Tqva es konkretulad?<br />
_ „lancetis” menejerma gvarad<br />
xosroSvilma. zaralze dasva<br />
da amitom aRar miviRebTo. is<br />
ki ara, aqeT mTxovdnen kidev 4<br />
aTas lars.<br />
„qronika+” am masalis momza-<br />
debis procesSi saocar faqts<br />
waawyda. „lancetsa” da iq Cata-<br />
rebul operaciebze yvela dums,<br />
_ eqimebi menejeris CaTvliT.<br />
„qronika+” TiToeul maTgans<br />
daukavSirda. komentarze uari<br />
miviReT. Semdeg „qronika+” jan-<br />
dacvis saministros daukavSi-<br />
rda. Tumca manamde lela dol-<br />
iZis mulis pozicia gvinda, gag-<br />
acnoT:<br />
sofo robaqiZe _ lela<br />
doliZis muli:<br />
_ lelas meuRle da ori mcirewlovani<br />
Svili darCa. naRvlis<br />
tkivilebi daewyo da am arasaimedo<br />
klinikaSi moxvda, sadac<br />
operacia vinme Temur mgeliaSvilma<br />
gaukeTa. rogorc gavigeT,<br />
Secdoma mosvliaT da naRvelma<br />
sadinarebidan gamoJona. lelas<br />
peritoniti daewyo, eqimebi ki am<br />
Zlier tkivilebs mis emociur<br />
mdgomareobas abralebdnen. lelas<br />
saqarTveloSi eqvsi operacia<br />
gaukeTes da arc erT operaciaze<br />
ar miuRia daxmareba klinika<br />
„lancetidan”. eqimebi pasuxismgeblobas<br />
gaurbian. ori mcirewlovani<br />
Svilis deda 40 kg iyo<br />
wonaSi, dazianebuli hqonda yvela<br />
sacicocxlo organo. mTelma<br />
saqarTvelom unda gaigos, klinika<br />
„lancetSi” rogor eqcevian<br />
pacientebs. ratom gvaimedebdiT<br />
eqimo biWiko caluRelaSvilo,<br />
araferia iseTi, yvelaferi kargad<br />
iqnebao, roca lelas RviZlis<br />
nawili mokveTes safrangeT-<br />
Si da uamravi Secdoma ixiles im<br />
frangma eqimebma?! sanam bolo<br />
kapiki ar gamogvaxarjineT, manam<br />
bolo operacia ar gaakeTeT da<br />
vin icis, rvasaaTian operaciaze<br />
ra akeTeT.<br />
lelas deda Tavze adga erTerT<br />
klinikaSi. im klinikis saxelia<br />
„niu viJeni”. iatakze iwva<br />
sacodavad qali, sawoli rom ar<br />
miutanes, oRond ki misi Svilis<br />
gverdiT yofiliyo. es aris Tqveni<br />
humanuroba?! pacients bolo<br />
8-saaTiani operaciis Semdeg eqTani<br />
cudad eqceoda. reanimacia-<br />
Si myof pacients saxeSi wyali Seasxa,<br />
imis gamo, rom sTxova, wesierad<br />
damalevineo. lelam rom<br />
gviTxra, cudad meqceviano, vikiTxeT,<br />
ratom? _ asec rom veqceviT,<br />
madlobeli iyoso. eqimi<br />
TiTis qneviT dagvemuqra, wynarad<br />
iyaviT, xom xedavT, stenti amovarda,<br />
es SemTxveviT ar moxdebodao.<br />
dro mova da yvelaferze<br />
ageben pasuxs!<br />
momxdarTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„qronika+” klinika „lancets”<br />
daukavSirda da qirurgiuli<br />
departamentidan eqim giorgi<br />
mwyeriaSvils gaesaubra:<br />
_ batono giorgi, rogor Sei-<br />
Zleba davukavSirde giorgi mge-<br />
liaSvils?<br />
_ weliwadze metia, CvenTan<br />
aRar muSaobs.<br />
_ sad aris, romel klinika-<br />
Si?<br />
_ ar viciT.<br />
_ iqneb, Tqvens menejers damalaparakoT,<br />
gvari xosraSvil-<br />
ia?<br />
_ iciT, aq eqimebi, eqTnebi,<br />
menejerebi da sxvebi Seicvalnen.<br />
me TviTon ori Tvea, rac vmuSaob.<br />
mari Jvania, jandacvis saministros<br />
samedicino regulire-<br />
bis pressamsaxuris ufrosi:<br />
_ ojaxma gancxadebiT mimar-<br />
Ta samedicino saqmianobis regulirebis<br />
saagentos da maTi<br />
gancxadeba, am etapze, ganixileba.<br />
Sedgeba komisia da eqspertebi<br />
Seamowmeben, TiToeul etapze<br />
ra da rogor Catarda _ operacia<br />
iqneba, es Tu mkurnaloba. mxolod<br />
amis Semdeg gvecodineba,<br />
ra moxda sinamdvileSi da yvela<br />
kiTxvaze gipasuxebT.<br />
manamde ki „qronika+” safrageTidan<br />
dokumentacias da anamnezis<br />
pasuxs daelodeba, romelic<br />
yvelaze ukeT upasuxebs<br />
yvela kiTxvas.<br />
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quTaisis sakrebulo<br />
quTaisis sakrebulom teqno-<br />
xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />
logiur universitets mwvane Suqi<br />
kidev erTxel aunTo. qalaqis Se-<br />
mogarenSi, muxnaris tye-parkSi, dagegmili umaRlesi saswav-<br />
leblis mSenebloba, jer kidev, saparlamento arCevnebamde<br />
daanonsda da samSeneblo poligonze mZime teqnikac gamoCnda,<br />
Tumca saarCevno procesis dasrulebis Semdeg yvelaferi<br />
gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT gauCinarda.<br />
28<br />
swored amitom, mosaxleobis<br />
erTma nawilma, xelisuflebis<br />
es gancxadeba winasaarCevnod<br />
gacemul morig xumrobad miiCnia<br />
da ukve damkvidrebul tradicaias,<br />
rac dapirebebis uxv<br />
gacemaSi gamoixateba, gagebiT<br />
moekida.<br />
„Tqven rom 7-punqtian sadRegrZelos<br />
uwodebT strategiuli<br />
ganviTarebis gegmas, im gegmis<br />
mTavar punqtze, ganaTlebaze<br />
saubari iqneba sakrebulos<br />
sxdomaze. Zalian saintereso<br />
informacias gaigebT sauniversiteto<br />
qalaqis mSeneblobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT”, _ ganacxada<br />
quTaisis merma meriis arqiteqturisa<br />
da ekonomikis samsaxurebis<br />
mier gamarTul Semajamebel<br />
Sexvedraze.<br />
meris mier daanonsebuli sakrebulos<br />
riggareSe sxdoma ki<br />
mxolod erTi sakiTxis misaRebad<br />
gaimarTa _ deputatebma sauniversiteto<br />
qalaqis mSeneblobisTvis<br />
ganaSenianebis regulirebis<br />
gegmis gegmarebiTi<br />
davaleba erTxmad daamtkices.<br />
dRis wesrigiT warmodgenil<br />
sakiTxs opoziciis warmomadgenlebmac<br />
dauWires mxari,<br />
Tumca darwmunebulebi arian,<br />
rom misi ganxorcielebis mcire<br />
Sansebi arsebobs.<br />
„dRes aris istoriuli<br />
dRe!”, _ ase acxadebdnen „qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis” deputatebi sityviT<br />
gamosvlisas da bednierebi<br />
iyvnen, rom am istoriuli<br />
gadawyvetilebis miRebis<br />
procesSi monawileobdnen. bevri<br />
maTgani imdenad Sevida rolSi,<br />
rom gamosvlebi, lamis, marTlac<br />
sadRegrZeloebSi gadaezarda.<br />
rogorc mosalodneli<br />
iyo, sakrebulos umravlesobas<br />
arc raime damatebiTi kiTxva<br />
gasCenia proeqtTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
prezentaciaze quTaisis merma<br />
isaubra, Tu konkretulad<br />
ra teritorias moicavs proeqti,<br />
ra samuSaoebi ganxorcieldeba<br />
da ras moutans igi rogorc<br />
qalaqs, ise mTlianad qveyanas.<br />
SoTa murRulias gancxadebiT,<br />
proeqtis mSeneblobis<br />
procesSi damatebiT samuSao<br />
adgilebi Seiqmneba rogorc qu-<br />
TaisSi, ise mis SemogarenSi<br />
mcxovrebi mosaxleobisTvis.<br />
„detalurad SeviswavleT muxnaris<br />
tye. adgilis upiratesoba<br />
is aris, rom komunikaciebTan<br />
axlosaa. avtobanidan teritoria,<br />
daaxloebiT, 1.5 kilometriTaa<br />
daSorebuli, rkinigzis<br />
sadguridan _ 500-600 metria,<br />
quTaisis centri ki 8 kilometrSia”,<br />
_ ganacxada qalaqis<br />
merma da dasZina, rom kompleqsis<br />
arseboba qalaqis sxva<br />
ubnebis ganviTarebazec dadebiTad<br />
aisaxeba. garda amisa, merma<br />
xazi gausva, uSualod, tyeparkis<br />
teritoriaze arsebul<br />
umZimes mdgomareobas, kerZod,<br />
teritoriis daWaobebas da xeebis<br />
xmobis process, rac ekologiuri<br />
katastrofis tolfasia.<br />
misive TqmiT, usafuZvloa<br />
braldebebi tyis safris<br />
SesaZlo ganadgurebasTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
metic, meri pirobas<br />
debs, rom xeebi araTu moiWreba,<br />
aramed dairgveba. SoTa murRulias<br />
gancxadebiT, „fondi<br />
qarTu” mSeneblobis dawyebas<br />
gazafxulis meore naxevarSi<br />
gegmavs.<br />
Temis aqtualurobidan gamomdinare,<br />
sakrebulos sxdomas<br />
quTaisis maJoritari deputatebi<br />
genadi margvelaSvili,<br />
dimitri mxeiZe da „qarTu fondis”<br />
warmomadgeneli giorgi<br />
uZilauric eswrebodnen.<br />
giorgi uZilauri _ „qarTu<br />
fondis” warmomadgeneli:<br />
_ proeqtis ganxorcieleba<br />
prezentaciis Semdegve daiwyo,<br />
anu 2016 wels. proeqti gulisxmobs<br />
ramdenime komponents,<br />
romelTagan nawili, SeiZleba,<br />
dasawyisSi iyos da Semdgom er-<br />
Toblivad viTardebodes. aq<br />
aris akademiuri da samSeneblo<br />
nawili, menejmentis sakiTxi. es<br />
Tveebi aqtiuri muSaoba midioda<br />
evropelebTan, amerikis warmomadgenlebTan,<br />
iqaur universitetebTan.<br />
saqarTveloSi proeqtis ganxorcielebas<br />
eZaxian, rodesac<br />
traqtori muSaobs, an raRac<br />
Senoba Sendeba, magram rodesac<br />
saubaria am donis proeqtze,<br />
igi mniSvnelovan samuSaoebs<br />
moicavs da misi didi nawili<br />
molaparakebebisas xorcieldeba<br />
qaRaldze.<br />
muSaoba daiwyeba Sua gazafxulze<br />
da gagrZeldeba 2019<br />
wlamde. unda gaviTvaliswinoT,<br />
rom kompleqsi didia da vfiqrobT,<br />
rom perspeqtivaSi igi<br />
kidev unda ganviTardes. es ar<br />
iqneba swrafi samuSaoebi, romelic<br />
2 weliwadSi damTavrdeba.<br />
igi gagrZeldeba da uamravi<br />
komponenti kidev daemateba,<br />
gamomdinare iqidan, rom es aris<br />
sauniversiteto qalaqis mSenebloba.<br />
_ 2019 wels universiteti<br />
studentebs miiRebs, Tu mxol-<br />
od mSenebloba dasruldeba?<br />
_ rogorc iTqva, pirvel nakads<br />
miiRebs. es ar niSnavs, rom<br />
yvela mimarTuleba CaerTveba,<br />
magram ZiriTadi nawili gaixsneba<br />
da studentebis misaRebad<br />
mzad iqneba. vimeoreb: es uzarmazari<br />
proeqtia da saboloo,<br />
srul amoqmedebas garkveuli<br />
dro dasWirdeba.<br />
_ ra odenobis Tanxa daixarjeba<br />
proeqtis ganxor-<br />
cielebisTvis?<br />
_ proeqti kerZo iniciativaa<br />
da ara _ saxelmwifo. Tanxa Seadgens,<br />
daaxloebiT, miliards,<br />
Tumca, SeiZleba, Seicvalos. am<br />
detalebze saubari Cemi kompetencia<br />
ar aris da meorec, naadrevia.<br />
genadi margvelaSvili _ sa-<br />
qarTvelos parlamentis wevri:<br />
_ mosaxleobis erTi nawili<br />
eWvobs, rom proeqti ar ganx-<br />
orcieldeba...<br />
_ Zalian cudia, rom eWvebidan<br />
viwyebT. vfiqrob, rom<br />
arc erTi eWvi aRar arsebobs.<br />
ragbis stadionebi, „bleq si<br />
arena”, swored am adamianis ke-<br />
Tili nebis damsaxureba iyo.<br />
Cven unda gvixarodes da vamayobdeT,<br />
rom arsebobs kaci, romelic<br />
sportisa da ganaTlebis<br />
mimarTulebiT investiciebs<br />
debs.<br />
_ gakeTda gancxadeba, rom<br />
universiteti 60 aTas studen-<br />
tze iqneba gaTvlili. es cif-<br />
ri realurad migaCniaT?<br />
_ saqme is aris, rom gansaku-<br />
Trebulad niWieri moswavleebi<br />
saqarTveloSi ar Cerdebodnen.<br />
SemiZlia CamogiTvaloT,<br />
Tu ramdeni Cemi moswavle cxovrobs<br />
da swavlobs sazRvargareT.<br />
magaliTad, elene maCaiZe<br />
wels masaCusetsis teqnologiur<br />
universitetSi Cairicxa.<br />
ciurixis, kaliforniisa da Zalian<br />
bevr universitetSi yvela<br />
mimarTulebiT arian Cveni<br />
moswavleebi CarTulebi. eseni<br />
samomavlod 6-cifriani xelfasis<br />
mqone adamianebi arian, magram<br />
ise nu vizamT, rom aseTi<br />
xalxisTvis mTeli samyaro iyos<br />
samSoblo da saqarTveloSi Camosvlis<br />
survili davukargoT.<br />
arsebobs ganaTlebis alternativa?<br />
_ amaze arc vdaobT, batono<br />
genadi.<br />
_ eWvi romc eparebodes vinmes,<br />
mainc ar unda eparebodes.<br />
arsebobs komnituri disonansis<br />
Teoria, rom xandaxan Sens<br />
Tavs SeuZaxo da Sens mtersac<br />
ki gverdSi daudge, rom es kargi<br />
saqmea, kargi saqme ki bolomde<br />
unda gakeTdes.<br />
Tqven iciT, ramdeni studenti<br />
Camodis saqarTveloSi yovelwliurad<br />
sazRvargareTidan?<br />
`rogorc Cveni qveynis gulSematkivarma,<br />
minda, vTqva da, yvelam unda icodes, rom<br />
Tbilisi, romlis sawinaaRmdegoc araferi<br />
maqvs da Zalian miyvars, nTqavs mTel<br />
qarTul resurss. yvela cdilobs, iq<br />
wavides da Tavi daimkvidros. 2012 wels,<br />
roca 2 idea erTmaneTs gadaejaWva da<br />
`qarTulma ocnebam~ da batonma ivaniSvilma<br />
gaaJReres, iyo is, rom baTums<br />
teqnologiuri universiteti ar sWirdeba<br />
da quTaiss - parlamenti. baTums ukve<br />
Semdgari proeqti waarTves, romelsac<br />
hqonda Senoba, inteleqtualuri da<br />
finasuri mxardaWera da quTaiselebs<br />
vaWroba dagviwyes~<br />
_ 10 aTasze meti. gansakuTrebiT<br />
medicinisa da biznesis mimarTulebiT,<br />
jer kidev, arian<br />
brwyinvale pedagogebi. esec ar<br />
unda davkargoT da kidev ufro<br />
unda gavZlierdeT am mimarTulebiT.<br />
_ es proeqti parlamentis<br />
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sanacvlod xom ar keTdeba?<br />
_ Zalian martivad gipasuxebT:<br />
jer erTi, me arasdros daveTanxmebi<br />
amas. erTi welia,<br />
erTsa da imaves vimeoreb, magram<br />
Tuki quTaisis mosaxleobis<br />
umetesoba gadawyvets, rom<br />
qalaqSi parlamenti ar unda<br />
iyos, Tqven maSin ras ityviT,<br />
rogorc Jurnalisti?<br />
_ es ar aris mxolod mosaxleobis<br />
gadasawyveti saqme. xelisuflebam<br />
unda gadawyvitos,<br />
ra ukeTesia regionis ga-<br />
nviTarebisTvis da dainaxos,<br />
ramdenad mniSvnelovania sapa-<br />
rlamento qalaqis statusi<br />
quTaisisTvis.<br />
_ geTanxmebiT. am mimarTulebiT<br />
dawvrilebiTi analizia<br />
Casatarebeli. am droisTvis sadac<br />
vyofilvar Sexvedrebze,<br />
saubro. aq aris boRma, meti araferi.<br />
realurad ki, rac davaanonseT,<br />
yvelafers vakeTebT.<br />
ganaTlebis mxriv Zalian didi<br />
Zvrebia ara marto megaproeqt-<br />
Tan, aramed ramdenime fakultetTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. konkretulad<br />
im sferoebSia ufaso fakultetebi,<br />
sadac dRes saqar-<br />
Tvelos realurad sWirdeba<br />
swrafi ganviTarebas. biznesi<br />
ganTavisuflebulia yvelanairi<br />
marwuxisgan. Tu moqalaqes<br />
SeuZlia, saqonels realizacia<br />
gaukeTos, aranairi SezRudva<br />
ar aris.<br />
_ cota TviTkritikulic<br />
rom iyoT, iqneb, gviTxraT, ar-<br />
is iseTi ram, rac mosaxleobas<br />
SehpirdiT da ar gaakeTeT?<br />
_ araferi. Cven gegmazomierad<br />
vaxorcielebT yvela da-<br />
da `saukunis proeqti~?!<br />
parlamenti aucilebelia. mimixvdiT?<br />
_ batono dimitri, xom ar<br />
fiqrobT, rom rigiTma quTa-<br />
iselma ki ara, xelisuflebam<br />
unda gadawyvitos qalaqis mo-<br />
mavali da dainaxos, ramdenad<br />
mniSvnelovania misi ganviTarebisTvis<br />
parlamentis arsebo-<br />
ba?<br />
_ es sul ase iyo da ase iqneba,<br />
oRond Cvens xalxTan SeTanxmdeba.<br />
yvela kanonproeqti<br />
gamWvirvalea.<br />
marTalia, quTaisis saganmanaTleblo<br />
centrad gadaqcevis<br />
idea momxibvlelad miaCniaT,<br />
magram „qarTuli ocnebis” mxridan<br />
proeqtis ganxorcielebas<br />
quTaisis sakrebulos opozicioneri<br />
deputatebi eWviT<br />
amiran ZoweniZe _ „evropu-<br />
li saqarTvelo”:<br />
_ me araTu gamiqarwylda,<br />
aramed Cveni Tanaqalaqeli ma-<br />
Joritari deputatebis gamosvlis<br />
Semdeg kidev ufro gamimyarda<br />
eWvi, rom es proeqti<br />
sxva araferia, Tu ara gadafarva<br />
imisa, rom quTaisidan parlamentis<br />
waRebas apireben. gansakuTrebiT<br />
batoni mxeiZis,<br />
rogorc gamoucdeli politikosis<br />
gamosvlis Semdeg, romelsac<br />
imis taqti ar eyo, rom<br />
es daemala da Tqva, _ proeqti<br />
ufro mniSvnelovania, vidre<br />
parlamenti. mTeli am wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi musirebs azri,<br />
rom quTaiss parlamentis magier<br />
raRac sxva sWirdeba.<br />
rogorc Cveni qveynis gul-<br />
Sematkivarma, minda, vTqva da,<br />
lod, warmoudgenelia. biZina<br />
ivaniSvili didi fulis patronia<br />
da mas cifrebis ena esmis.<br />
sakrebulos sxdomaze vnaxeT,<br />
rom tyuilebis buRi dagviyenes.<br />
deputatebi ambobdnen, rom<br />
kargi iqneba, 2019-Si, an 2020-Si<br />
davamTavroTo. kerZo investori,<br />
rogorc wesi, ar ambobs, an<br />
2017-Si movrCebi, an 2019-Sio.<br />
sakrebulos komisiis sxdomaze,<br />
saerTod, saocreba iTqva:<br />
biZina ivaniSvilma brZana, es<br />
proeqti jer momgebiani gaxdeba<br />
da mere gadavcem saxelmwifoso.<br />
es proeqti am cifrebiT,<br />
rasac gveubnebian, momgebiani<br />
ver gaxdeba, rogorc avtoqarxana<br />
ar iyo momgebiani misi<br />
aSenebis dRidan. Tumca mxolod<br />
gamixardeba, Tuki es cudi<br />
ar moxdeba. apelireben, rom<br />
mTavaria, personalTan molaparakeba<br />
da niCabi da traqtori<br />
es sxva Temaao. mere ki ityvian,<br />
ver movelaparakeTo da<br />
amiT dasruldeba.<br />
yovelTvis gverdidan Semosuli<br />
Tezebia. ar minda vTqva,<br />
erT-erTma parlamentarma ra<br />
miTxra amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
da anekdotur situaciamde ar<br />
daviyvan am Temas. gavimeoreb<br />
imas, rac premier-ministrma<br />
Tqva: am etapze quTaisidan parlamentis<br />
gadatana ar igegmeba.<br />
dimitri mxeiZe _ saqarTve-<br />
los parlamentis wevri:<br />
_ samuSaoebi dawyebulia. piradad<br />
Cavedi da vnaxe. niadagi<br />
momzadebulia, gzebi moxre-<br />
Silia da mZime teqnika ivlis.<br />
yvelaferia momzadebuli, rom<br />
rogorc ki amindebi gamova,<br />
proeqtze muSaoba daiwyos.<br />
_ sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />
mogviwodeT, rom procesebs<br />
eWviT ar unda SevxedoT. ro-<br />
gor fiqrobT, saidan Cndeba es<br />
eWvebi?<br />
_ ar minda, romelime politikur<br />
organizaciaze Tu politikosebze<br />
uaryofiTad vi-<br />
pirebas. dro gvaqvs da nelnela<br />
yvelaferi Sesruldeba.<br />
_ ras etyodiT maT, vinc<br />
teqnologiur universitets<br />
parlamentis Casanacvlebel<br />
proeqtad ganixilavs?<br />
_ aseTi Tema CvenTan ar ganixileba.<br />
Tu qveynis swrafi ganviTarebisTvis<br />
saWiro iqneba,<br />
yvela struqtura erT qalaqSi<br />
iyos, maSin sakiTxma mosaxleobasTan<br />
unda gaiaros da mxolod<br />
Semdeg SeiZleba parlamentis<br />
gadatana erTi qalaqidan meoreSi.<br />
Tu amas romelime politikosi<br />
ambobs, es ar niSnavs,<br />
rom Cveni partiis azri da gadawyvetilebaa.<br />
es misi azria.<br />
marTlac, didi diskomfortia<br />
erTi qalaqidan meore qalaqSi<br />
siaruli kviraSi orjer-samjer.<br />
magram Cveni mTavroba Se-<br />
RavaTs uwevs Cvens qalaqs da<br />
ar arTmevs imas, rac misTvis,<br />
dResdReobiT, mTavaria. es ase<br />
gagrZeldeba manam, vidre quTaiseli<br />
ifiqrebs, rom misTvis<br />
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uyureben. metic, adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis<br />
win isini mmarTvel gunds qu-<br />
TaiselTa motyuebis mcdelobaSi<br />
adanaSauleben<br />
samson gugava _ leiboris-<br />
tuli partia:<br />
_ roca erT SemTxvevaSi vxedavT,<br />
rom qveyanaSi ganaTlebis<br />
ufleba daucvelia da, amave<br />
dros, vamtkicebT, rom saxelmwifo<br />
axali saganmanaTleblo<br />
kerebis Seqmnaze zrunavs, vfiqrob,<br />
es cru dapirebaa, raSic<br />
Cveni xelisufleba SemCneulia.<br />
es morigi winasaarCevno svlaa.<br />
ramdenime wlis Semdeg didi siamovnebiT<br />
movixdi bodiSs, Tuki<br />
es proeqti warmatebiT dasruldeba,<br />
magram, samwuxarod,<br />
mis realizebaSi eWvi mepareba.<br />
jer uamrav statusSeCerebul<br />
students miscen ganaTlebis<br />
ufleba da amis Semdeg isaubron<br />
axal saswavlo kerebze.<br />
yvelam unda icodes, rom Tbilisi,<br />
romlis sawinaaRmdegoc<br />
araferi maqvs da Zalian miyvars,<br />
nTqavs mTel qarTul resurss.<br />
yvela cdilobs, iq wavides<br />
da Tavi daimkvidros.<br />
2012 wels, roca 2 idea erTmaneTs<br />
gadaejaWva da „qarTulma<br />
ocnebam” da batonma ivaniSvilma<br />
gaaJReres, iyo is, rom<br />
baTums teqnologiuri universiteti<br />
ar sWirdeba da quTaiss<br />
_ parlamenti. baTums ukve Semdgari<br />
proeqti waarTves, romelsac<br />
hqonda Senoba, inteleqtualuri<br />
da finasuri mxarda-<br />
Wera da quTaiselebs vaWroba<br />
dagviwyes.<br />
60 aTas studentze saubroben,<br />
rac saqarTvelosTvis fantastikaa.<br />
dRes, ucxoelebis<br />
CaTvliT, 132 aTasi studenti<br />
swavlobs saqarTveloSi 78 akreditebul<br />
umaRles saswavlebelSi.<br />
axla amis naxevar kontingentze<br />
gaTvalo erTi universitetis<br />
kontingenti, ubra-<br />
male daTbeba da samuSaoTa<br />
warmoebisTvis Sesaferisi amindebic<br />
dadgeba. swored gamodarebas<br />
elodeba xelisufleba,<br />
raTa muxnaris tye-parkSi<br />
mZime teqnika aagugunos. Tumca,<br />
imedia, manamde universitetis<br />
sawavlo, sacxovrebeli korpusebisa<br />
da sxva damxmare nagebobebis<br />
maketebsac vixilavT.<br />
sakrebuloSi prezentaciaze<br />
mxolod zogadi, savaraudo monaxazi<br />
gakeTda imisa, Tu ra teritorias<br />
moicavs kompleqsi<br />
da, daaxloebiT, rogori ganaSenianeba<br />
iqneba iq.<br />
quTaisis saganmanaTleblo<br />
centrad gadaqcevis Sesaxeb saubari,<br />
jer kidev, imereTis yofili<br />
gubernatoris, Temur Sa-<br />
SiaSvilis dros daiwyo. am wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi centraluri<br />
xelisufleba am ideas arc mxars<br />
uWerda da arc mis ganxorcielebaze<br />
ambobda uars. amjerad<br />
gaJRerebul iniciativas<br />
adgilobrivi mosaxleoba miesalmeba,<br />
magram surs moisminos,<br />
rom es ar gulismobs saparlamento<br />
dedaqalaqis statusis<br />
dakargvas. amaSi quTaiselebi<br />
ki mxolod konstituciidan<br />
48-e muxlis amoRebaze uaris<br />
Tqmis SemTxvevaSi darwmundebian,<br />
romelic parlamentis<br />
adgilmdebareobas gansazRvravs.<br />
amasTanave, mosaxleoba ara<br />
100%-iT, magram mainc imedovnebs,<br />
rom xelisufleba pirobas<br />
Seasrulebs da teqnologiuri<br />
universiteti dapirebuli, magram<br />
araSenebuli obieqtebis<br />
(axali sportis sasaxle, ragbis<br />
moedani da 250-milioniani axali<br />
ubani parlamentis mimdebare<br />
teritoriaze da sxv.) beds<br />
ar gaiziarebs.<br />
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„qronika+”-s esaubreba „demografiuli<br />
aRorZinebis fon-<br />
dis” gamgeobis Tavmjdomare _<br />
Tamar CiburdaniZe:<br />
_ ram ganapiroba aseTi mZime<br />
demografiuli mdgomareoba qveyanaSi?<br />
iqneb, oficialuri statis-<br />
tikuri monacemebic gviTxraT,<br />
Tu arsebobs saerTod aseTi?<br />
_ 2010 wels gaeros mier Catarebuli<br />
kvlevis Sedegad, saqarTvelos<br />
2050 wlisTvis demografiuli<br />
katastrofa emuqreba, qveynis<br />
mosaxleoba 28%-iT mcirdeba, ma-<br />
Sin, roca Cvens regionSi azerbaijanis<br />
mosaxleoba 33%-iT, xolo<br />
somxeTis 7%-iT izrdeba. amave<br />
kvlevebiT, saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />
kleba mxolod eTnikur qarTvelebze<br />
modis. kavkasiaSi irRveva<br />
demografiuli balansi, rac<br />
TavisTavad cvlis regionul politikas.<br />
Tuki me-20 saukunis dasawyisSi<br />
kavkasiis mosaxleobis<br />
yoveli mesame saqarTvelos moqalaqe<br />
iyo, dRes es yoveli me-6-a.<br />
saqarTveloSi mZime demografiuli<br />
mdgomareoba 90-iani wlebis<br />
Semdeg SeiniSneba. daiwyo Sida konfliqtebiT,<br />
Semdeg, mZime socialur-ekonomikuri<br />
mdgomareobiT,<br />
ramac qveynidan didi migracia<br />
gamoiwvia, aseve, Sida migraciac.<br />
mosaxleoba Tavis gadasarCenad<br />
TbilisSi Camovida da saqarTvelos<br />
destruqciuli regionuli ganviTareba<br />
daiwyo. qveynidan dRemde<br />
gaedinebian reproduqciuli<br />
asakis mqone pirebi, ZirTadad,<br />
qalebi. bunebrivia, Semcirda Sobadoba,<br />
qorwineba, gaizarda abortebis<br />
raodenoba, TandaTan ingreva<br />
ojaxis institutis Rirebulebebi.<br />
am yvelaferma ganapiroba is,<br />
rom mosaxleobis ricxovnoba da<br />
misi gaTanabrebuli regionuli<br />
ganviTareba qveynis politikis<br />
sayrdenia da mniSvnelovanwilad<br />
gansazRvravs mas. arada, eqvs regionSi<br />
gansakuTrebiT mZime mdgomareobaa.<br />
_ romelia is eqvsi regioni?<br />
_ raWa-leCxumi _ qvemo svane-<br />
Ti, samegrelo _ zemo svaneTi,<br />
guria, imereTi, mcxeTa-mTianeTi<br />
da kaxeTi.<br />
_ darCa rame? mTian regioneb-<br />
Si rogori mdgomareobaa?<br />
_ saqarTvelos mTa TiTqmis daclilia<br />
mosaxleobisgan. 2003<br />
wlis sayovelTao aRweris SedegebiT,<br />
saqarTvelos 162 sofeli absoluturad<br />
gaukacrielebuli<br />
iyo, xolo 154 sofelSi 5 da naklebi<br />
kaci cxovrobda. gaukacrielebuli<br />
soflebis raodenobam, bolo<br />
aRweris Sedegad, 200-s gadaaWarba.<br />
gansakuTrebiT daclilia<br />
saqarTvelos sazRvrispira zoli.<br />
aq ukve demografiuli aneqsiis safrTxe<br />
iqmneba imitom, rom Tu asaxldebi,<br />
Casaxldeba sxva da es SemdgomSi<br />
swored teritoriebis<br />
dakargvas iwvevs. amitom SemuSavda<br />
„mTis kanoni” da mTis erovnu-<br />
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gaeros kvlevebis<br />
bolo TveebSi ganviTarebuli<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
movlenebis fonze (sapatriarqo-<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
sTan dakavSirebuli skandali,<br />
„rusTavi 2"-is garSemo mimdinare<br />
procesebi da a. S.) CrdilSi darCa umniSvnelovanesi problema:<br />
gaerom saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT ramdenime wlis winaT<br />
skandaluri monacemebi gamoaqveyna _ 2050 wlisTvis Cve-<br />
ni qveynis mosaxleoba 28%-iT Semcirdeba. azerbaijanis mo-<br />
saxleoba 33%-iT izrdeba, xolo somxeTis mosaxleoba _ 7%-<br />
iT imatebs. kavkasiaSi demografiuli balansi irRveva. ras<br />
akeTebs saqarTvelos mTavroba?! adre Tu gvian, yvela prob-<br />
lema mogvardeba, eris genofondis gadarCenis garda.<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
mosaxleoba<br />
28%-iT<br />
mcirdeba<br />
li sabWo Seiqmna, romlis wevri<br />
mec gaxlavarT. 1700-mde sofels<br />
maRalmTiani soflis statusi<br />
mieniWa, rac seriozul SeRavaTebs<br />
iTvaliswinebs. statusis miniWebis<br />
kriteriumebSi pirveli kriteriumi<br />
swored soflis demografiuli<br />
maCveneblebia. kanonis Tanaxmad,<br />
2016 wlis ianvridan mTaSi, pirvel<br />
da meore bavSvze, 100-lariani<br />
daxmareba gaicema erTi wlis<br />
manZilze yovelTviurad, xolo<br />
mesame da Semdgom axalSobilze ki<br />
_ 200 lari 2 wlis manZilze.<br />
mjera, rom ramdenime wlis Semdeg<br />
Cven seriozul sasikeTo cvlilebebs<br />
miviRebT da bevri moqalaqe<br />
daubrundeba Tavis kerias.<br />
_ ar mjera. dasawyisisTvis<br />
cudi ar aris, magram arasakmari-<br />
sia. saxelmwifom 4 wlis manZilze<br />
300 milionamde lari demografi-<br />
ul iniciativebSi daxarja. aman<br />
ra Sedegi mogvca?<br />
_ Sedegad mogvca is, rom 2013-<br />
2015 wlebSi saqarTveloSi Sobadobam<br />
sagrZnoblad imata, Semcirda<br />
sikvdilianoba, gansakuTrebiT<br />
_ bavSvTa sikvdilianoba; 9000 er-<br />
TeuliT Semcirda abortebis raodenoba.<br />
gaizarda qorwinebaTa<br />
raodenoba. es cotaa? msurs, is<br />
iniciativebi CamogiTvaloT, rac<br />
bolo 4 wlis manZilze ganxorcielda<br />
mxolod demografiuli mimarTulebiT:<br />
mSobiarobebis dafinanseba<br />
saxelmwifos mier, orsulobis<br />
monitoringi, rkina-deficituri<br />
anemiis SemTxvevaSi folium<br />
mJavis miwodeba orsulebisTvis,<br />
dekretuli Svebulebis gazrda<br />
rogorc fuladi anazRaurebiT,<br />
aseve drois xangrZlivobiT;<br />
6 regionSi mesame da Semdgomi Svilis<br />
dafinanseba 2 wlis manZilze<br />
yovelTviurad barSi 150 laris,<br />
xolo mTSi 200 laris odenobiT.<br />
_ ori weli Zalian cota ar<br />
aris?<br />
_ cotaa, magram biujets risi<br />
saSualebac hqonda, is gaviTvaliswineT.<br />
Cven 6 weli gvsurda,<br />
magram es SeuZlebeli iyo. swored<br />
am iniciativis Sedegia is, rom 2015<br />
wels mesame da Semdgom axalSobilebSi<br />
Sobadobis pikuri maCvenebeli<br />
dafiqsirda. es iniciativa<br />
srulad Cvens fondSi SemuSavda<br />
da amiT gansakuTrebiT vamayobT.<br />
garda amisa, momzadda iniciativebi<br />
abortebis winaaRmdeg. magali-<br />
Tad, abortamde mosafiqrebeli<br />
vadis gazrda 3-dan 5 dRemde.<br />
_ ai, es bolo, ubralod,<br />
sasaciloa...<br />
_ ratom? bevr evropul saxelmwifoSi<br />
abortamde mosafiqrebeli<br />
vada 7 da 10 dRec ki aris da<br />
cdiloben, deda maqsimalurad<br />
gadaarwmunon, rom uari Tqvas<br />
abortze. geTanxmebiT, rom es 5<br />
dRe Tu ar daitvirTa, efeqti ar<br />
eqneba. Cen gvsurs, rom es dReebi<br />
daitvirTos fsiqologis, ginekologis<br />
da Tu survili eqnebaT, sa-<br />
Tamar CiburdaniZe<br />
suliero pirTan konsultaciebiT.<br />
2014 wels seleqciuri abortebis<br />
akrZalva ministris rekomendaciis<br />
safuZvelze ganxorcielda da<br />
rac mTavaria, dimitri xundaZis<br />
iniciativiT, ukanono abortebze<br />
sasjeli gamkacrda, rac pirvelive<br />
SemTxvevaze patimrobiT<br />
isjeba; aseve, ganisazRvra martoxela<br />
mSoblis statusi. ukve TiTqmis<br />
miRebulia kanoni Svilad ayvanisa<br />
da mindobiTi aRzrdis Sesaxeb.<br />
garda amisa, 2016 wlis ivnisSi,<br />
jandacvis komitetis iniciativiT<br />
da parlamentis dadgenilebiT,<br />
miRebulia ori msxvili<br />
dokumenti: daberebis politikis<br />
dokumenti da demografiuli usafrTxoebis<br />
koncefcia. es ukanaskneli<br />
erT-erTi msxvili politikuri<br />
dokumentia, rac ki saqar-<br />
Tvelos parlaments odesme miuRia.<br />
_ maSin 2016 wlis statis-<br />
tikuri monacemebi negatiurad<br />
ratom aris Secvlili da mdgo-<br />
mareoba gauaresebulia?<br />
_ amas velodiT da amis Sesaxebac<br />
araerTxel gangvicxadebia.<br />
_ ras acxadebdiT, rom Soba-<br />
dobis kleba gardauvalia?<br />
_ diax! es aris 20 wlis winaT<br />
ganviTarebuli movlenebis Sedegi.<br />
saqme is gaxlavT, rom 1990-ian<br />
wlebSi saqarTveloSi daibada 455<br />
000 gogona, xolo 2000-iani wleb-<br />
Si _ 224 000. es Taoba swored axla<br />
Sedis dedobis asakSi da ganaxevrebuli<br />
gogonebis raodenoba, bunebrivia,<br />
ganaxevrebul Sobadobas<br />
mogvcems.<br />
_ ra perspeqtiva gvaqvs?<br />
_ perspeqtiva aris is, rom<br />
Zlieri demografiuli politikis<br />
ganxorcielebiT unda aviciloT<br />
is seriozuli katastrofa, rac<br />
gvelis. arada, es realuria. es cunamia.<br />
Cven vcdilobT, cunami Zlieri<br />
RelviT SevcvaloT. krizisi<br />
ukve gvaqvs da swored am krizisidan<br />
gamosasvlelad Seiqmna demografiuli<br />
usafrTxoebis koncefcia,<br />
rasac axla unda mohyves<br />
2020-2050 wlebis samoqmedo gegmis<br />
Sedgena. koncefcia parlamentma<br />
miiRo da igi premierTan erovnuli<br />
sabWos Seqmnas gansazRvravs.<br />
swored am sabWom unda warmarTos<br />
SemdgomSi qveynis demografiuli<br />
politika. is, rasac axla vakeTebT,<br />
erTi demografiuli Taobis,<br />
anu 25 wlis Semdeg mogvcems Sedegs,<br />
amitom am TemiT piars aravin<br />
vapirebT. es mxolod uzRvavi<br />
Sroma da udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa.<br />
sxvanairad qarTveli eri gadaSendeba,<br />
damijereT. amas rogorc<br />
specialisti, ise geubnebiT.<br />
_ maSin, Tu es aseTi didi<br />
problemaa, xom SeiZleboda, amaze<br />
muSaoba ufro adre dagewyoT?<br />
_ amaze muSaoba, jer kidev, 90-<br />
ian wlebSi unda dawyebuliyo. miT<br />
umetes, 2002 wlidan, rodesac mosaxleobis<br />
sayovelTao aRwera<br />
Catarda da umZimesi Sedegebi miviReT.<br />
mogvianebiT, 2010 wels, rodesac<br />
gaerom es kvleva warmoadgina,<br />
me maSin erT-erT opoziciur<br />
partiaSi viyavi da sxvadasxva<br />
mimarTulebas vxelmZRvanelobdi.<br />
bevri brZolis miuxedavad, am Temaze<br />
muSaobis dawyeba ver SevZeliT.<br />
2012 wels es proeqti maSindeli<br />
jandacvis komitetis Tavmjdomare<br />
dimitri xundaZesTan Sevitane.<br />
swored is gaxldaT xelisuflebis<br />
mxridan am proeqtis dawyebis<br />
iniciatori, xolo arasam-<br />
Tavroboebidan me vxelmZRvanelobdi.<br />
4 wlis manZilze, marTlac,<br />
jojoxeTurad vSromobdiT,<br />
magram Cven es SevZeliT da aseve<br />
momavalSic vagrZelebT. gansaku-<br />
Trebuli siyvaruliT da pativiscemiT<br />
minda movixsenio xandazmuli<br />
mecnieri, demografi batoni<br />
anzor ToTaZe, romelic fondis<br />
erT-erTi damfuZnebelia, Cvenze<br />
meti energiiT muSaobs da ragind<br />
ar unda gagikvirdeT, moxucebul<br />
profesors Tavisi xelfasi moaqvs<br />
universitetidan da fondSi ricxavs,<br />
xan sakuTar wignebs gamoscems,<br />
xan kvlevebs akeTebs. es pirovneba<br />
yvelas gvaognebs. is am TemaSi<br />
Cveni maswavlebelia da ZiriTad<br />
mimarTulebebs swored is gva-<br />
Zlevs. yoveldRiurad uamravi adamiani<br />
rekavs da daxmarebas gvTxovs,<br />
Cvenc vuxsniT, rom fondi am<br />
mimarTulebiT ar muSaobs. diax,<br />
Cvens wesdebaSi weria, rom erTerTi<br />
saqmianoba qvelmoqmedeba<br />
unda iyos, magram, am etapze, sxva<br />
mimarTulebiT vmuSaobT. rodesac<br />
davfuZndiT, fuladi Semowiruloba<br />
ramdenime pirma gaakeTa, maT<br />
Soris, deputatebmac, oRond ara<br />
didi. am TanxiT vexmarebodiT mravalSvilian<br />
ojaxebs da mSobiarobis<br />
Tanxas vufinansebdiT. Semdgom,<br />
rodesac sayovelTao jandacvis<br />
programa amoqmedda, maT am<br />
kuTxiT daxmareba aRar sWirdebodaT.<br />
Tavidanve erT rames mivxvdiT,<br />
an unda gvemuSava fulis<br />
mozidvaze da gacemaze, erTjerad<br />
daxmarebebze, romelic arsebiTad<br />
arafers cvlida, anda demografiuli<br />
politikis SemuSavebaze<br />
gvemuSava, romelic uamrav<br />
kvlevasa da analizs moicavda sazogadoebis<br />
CarTulobiT. gamomdinare<br />
iqidan, rom erTjeradi<br />
daxmarebebiT demografiul suraTs<br />
qveyanaSi ver SevcvlidiT,<br />
meore gza avirCieT, ufro rTuli<br />
da sapasuxismgeblo _ demografiuli<br />
iniciativebis SemuSaveba<br />
da saxelmwifos mxridan amis<br />
ganxorcieleba.<br />
_ Tuki am gzas irCevdiT, maSin<br />
ratom SeiyvaneT 6 milioneri<br />
fondSi, maT Soris, levan vasaZe,<br />
zaza niSnianiZe, papaSvili da a. S.?<br />
gaakeTes rame? magaliTad, daafi-<br />
nanses mSobiaroba, 10-Svilian<br />
ojaxebs pensia an Semweoba dau-<br />
niSnes da a. S.? me rogorc vici,<br />
arc araferi.<br />
_ xom giTxariT, Tavidan Cveulebrivi<br />
saqvelmoqmedo fondis<br />
proeqti SevimuSaveT, romelic<br />
gulisxmobda sameTvalyureo sab-<br />
WoSi biznesmenebis Seyvanas. ramdenimeTviani<br />
erToblivi muSaobis<br />
Semdeg gadavwyviteT, rom meore<br />
mimarTulebiT gvemuSava da ufro<br />
meti gagvekeTebina, vidre erTjeradi<br />
daxmarebebi iyo.<br />
_ gasagebia, anu TanamSromlo-<br />
ba SewyviteT?<br />
_ am mizniT biznesmenebTan TanamSromloba<br />
SevwyviteT, Tumca<br />
megobroba grZeldeba da Cven yvelani<br />
am ideas dRemde vemsaxurebiT.<br />
maT TiToeuls bevri ram aqvs<br />
gakeTebuli am mimarTulebiT. demografiuli<br />
problema masStaburia<br />
da globaluri midgoma sWirdeba.<br />
swored amitom daviwyeT<br />
saxelmwifo programaze muSaoba<br />
xelisuflebasTan erTad. rac<br />
mTavaria, yvela adamianis sicocxles<br />
ukve saxelmwifo azRvevda da<br />
jandacvis mxriv problemebi didwilad<br />
moixsna.<br />
_ kiTxvas mivubrundebi: Tqven<br />
SewyviteT maTTan urTierToba,<br />
magram vasaZem calke fondi<br />
daafuZna da iq biznesmenebma gadainacvles.<br />
Sedegad ras vxe-<br />
davT? _ zaza niSnianiZe, „meidan<br />
jgufis” damfuZnebeli, meriasTan<br />
erTad sxvadasxva komerciul<br />
proeqtSia CarTuli. „qroni-<br />
ka+” ukve werda amaze da mis ko-<br />
rufciul sqemaze...<br />
_ rac Seexeba baton levan vasaZes,<br />
diax, man jer fondi daafuZna,<br />
xolo Semdeg _ demografiuli<br />
saazogadoeba. es organizacia<br />
Zalian kargad muSaobs da bevr<br />
sasikeTo saqmes akeTebs qveynis-<br />
Tvis; xolo ras saqmianobs batoni<br />
zaza niSnianiZe, an sxva biznesmeni,<br />
am saqmeSi ar verevi da arc vici.<br />
vici mxolod is, rom maT pativs<br />
vcem. miuxedavad imisa, rom fondis<br />
sami damfuZnebeli politikosia,<br />
maqsimalurad vcdilobT, fondi<br />
politizebuli ar gavxadoT<br />
da aravin gamoiyenos vinmesTan dapirispirebisTvis.<br />
piriqiT, Cvens<br />
samuSaoebSi xSirad monawileobs<br />
batoni gigi wereTeli da Zalian<br />
karg ideebsac gvTavazobs.<br />
_ biznesmenebze saubars Tavs<br />
aridebT? niSnianiZeze gkiTxeT,<br />
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skandaluri punqti<br />
erTi saqme damisaxeleT misi<br />
qvelmoqmedebidan...<br />
_ mirCevnia, Cveni fondis saqmianobaze<br />
visaubroT.<br />
_ fondisa, romelsac dafin-<br />
anseba ar aqvs da es arc aravis<br />
adardebs?<br />
_ xom giTxariT, Cven gadavwyviteT<br />
ase. rodesac saxelmwifo<br />
programaze da samoqmedo gegmaze<br />
muSaobas davamTavrebT, mere amazec<br />
vifiqrebT. radgan Zalian gainteresebT,<br />
getyviT, rom dafinansebis<br />
mxriv perspeqtiva namdvilad<br />
gvaqvs kerZo seqtoridan.<br />
vnaxoT, momavali gviCvenebs. warmoidgineT,<br />
yvela demografiuli<br />
iniciativis ganxorcielebaze saxelmwifom<br />
4 wlis manZilze 300<br />
milionamde lari gaiRo da es mxolod<br />
dasawyisia, muSaoba gZeldeba.<br />
am Tanxis Segroveba Cvens<br />
fonds da, zogadad, nebismier<br />
arasamTavrobo organizacias Zalian<br />
gauWirdeboda. amitom vfiqrob,<br />
rom swori gza avirCieT da<br />
vzrunavT ara calkeul ojaxebze,<br />
aramed, yvelaze. rac Seexeba<br />
fonds, saxelis gadarqmeva gvsurda,<br />
radgan pirdapir fulTan asocirdeba,<br />
magram dafuZnebidan maleve<br />
„demografiuli aRorZinebis<br />
fondi” brendi gaxda. demografiuli<br />
Temis popularizacia dRes<br />
swored Cveni organizaciis damsaxurebaa,<br />
amitom gadavifiqreT.<br />
_ Tqven xelfass ar iRebT?<br />
_ ara, fondis TanamSromlebs<br />
mxolod samjer Cavuricxe xelfasi<br />
da erTi xelfasi yvelam ukan<br />
gadmoricxa qvelmoqmedebis mizniT.<br />
calkeul proeqtebSi erTjeradi<br />
anazRaureba aqvT, isic, iSviaTad.<br />
me arasodes erTi TeTric<br />
ar amiRia am fondidan, piriqiT,<br />
ramdenjerme maqvs Setanili Cemi<br />
Tanxa sxvadasxva proeqtisTvis,<br />
iseve, rogorc sxvebs.<br />
_ kargiT, ase ufulod apir-<br />
ebT muSaobis gagrZelebas?<br />
_ damijereT, fuli ar aris aq<br />
mTavari. saxelmwifoebrivi midgoma<br />
unda iyos TiToeuli moqalaqis<br />
mxridan. soliduri dafinanseba<br />
aravisTvis gviTxovia. dResdReobiT,<br />
calkeul proeqtebs an Cven<br />
TviTon vafinansebT, an erTjeradi<br />
sponsorebi gvyavs. erTobliv<br />
kulturul RonisZiebebs, ZiriTadad,<br />
kulturis saministro, an municipalitetebi<br />
afinanseben. muSaobas<br />
vagrZelebT saparlamento<br />
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anaSi ar arsebobs.<br />
_ zogadad, demografiuli politikis<br />
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Tvis didi fufunebaa, radgan<br />
kolosalur Tanxebs moiTxovs.<br />
amis gakeTeba wamyvan evropul saxelmwifoebsac<br />
ki uWirT. dasafasebelia<br />
is, rom Cveni qveynis biujetis<br />
pirobebSi xelisuflebam am<br />
urTulesi problemis mogvarebaze<br />
zrunva daiwyo. Tumca aq marto<br />
finansebi ar wyvets sakiTxs.<br />
aucilebelia sazogadoebis cnobierebis<br />
amaRleba, Tu ramdenad<br />
seriozul problemasTan gvaqvs<br />
saqme. mniSvnelovania migraciis<br />
Tema. TiTqmis naxevari saqarTvelo<br />
ukve ucxoeTSia. am viTareba-<br />
Si msurs, daveTanxmo qalbaton<br />
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ormagi moqalaqeoba misces ucxoeTSi<br />
mcxovreb Cvens Tanamemamuleebs,<br />
raTa mudmivi kavSiri hqondeT<br />
saqarTvelosTan da TavianTi<br />
resursi qveyanas moaxmaron. aseve<br />
misasalmebelia distanciuri swavlebis<br />
onlain programa, rac ganaTlebis<br />
ministrma, aleqsandre<br />
jejelavam warmoadgina. CvenTvis<br />
mniSvnelovania ara marto Sobadobis<br />
gazrda, aramed, xarisxiani<br />
qarTvelebis aRzrdac. mSobliur<br />
fesvebs mowyvetili bavSvebisTvis<br />
es programa sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania.<br />
miuxedavad am programebisa,<br />
problema imdenad didia,<br />
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da Sedegebi jandacvis komitets<br />
gadaveciT. Sedegebi sazogadoebisTvis<br />
male iqneba cnobili.<br />
_ Tqven aRniSneT, rom Tundac<br />
aqtiur politikaSi viyo, aucile-<br />
blad ganvagrZob demografiuli<br />
mimarTulebiT muSaobaso. ras<br />
gulisxmobdiT, politikaSi dab-<br />
runebas apirebT?<br />
_ Tqven arc erT farazas ar<br />
uSvebT. amJamad aq var, „demografiul<br />
fondSi” da vTanamSromlob<br />
universitetebTan, rogorc<br />
polit-teqnologiebis specialisti.<br />
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politikaSi iyaviT. eduard SevardnaZis<br />
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_ es ra aris, mware kritikaa?!<br />
Cems biografias kargad gascnobixarT,<br />
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SevardnaZis rCeuli ar vyofilvar,<br />
man, ubralod, „moqalaqeTa<br />
kavSiris” axalgazrdul frTaSi<br />
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muSaobda da iq moxvedra namdvili<br />
saswauli iyo. me diplomi tele-<br />
JurnalistikaSi davicavi da televiziis<br />
xelmZRvanelobis gadawyvetilebiT,<br />
22 studentidan mxolod<br />
2 dagvtoves. es iseTi bedniereba<br />
iyo, rom namdvilad ver<br />
davTmobdi Jurnalistis Tavisuflebas<br />
da am perspeqtivas. Tu Jurnalisti<br />
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satelevizio dokumentur filmebs<br />
vamzadebdi. maSin dokudrama<br />
pirvelad me gamoviyene da axlad<br />
gasaidumloebul saarqivo masalebze<br />
vmuSaobdi. meore mizezi, Tu<br />
ratom ar wavedi maSin politika-<br />
Si, iyo Tavad SevardnaZis politika<br />
da garemocva. rodesac misi<br />
warmomadgeneli CemTan televiziaSi<br />
movida, „moqalaqeTa kavSiris”<br />
axalgazrduli frTis sia<br />
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erovnul moZraobaSi. maxsovs, im<br />
siis CamonaTvalSi arc saakaSvili<br />
da arc sxva dRevandeli liderebi,<br />
jer kidev, ar iyvnen. Sevardna-<br />
Zis warmomadgeneli Cemi yofili<br />
TanamSromeli iyo da miTxra,<br />
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deputatobaze an SesaZlo ministrobaze<br />
miTqvams uari. mogvianebiT,<br />
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miTxra, gava dro da<br />
inaneb, es Sansi rom ar gamoiyeneo.<br />
_ nanobT?<br />
_ ara, politikaSi maSin wavedi,<br />
roca me TviTon miviCnie saWirod.<br />
ratomRac, fiqroben, rom 2012<br />
wlis Semdeg politikidan gavedi.<br />
me politikidan arasodes wavsulvar.<br />
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politikaa, radgan Ti-<br />
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igrZno Tavi? rac Seexeba aqtiur<br />
politikas, rac Tqven gainteresebT,<br />
jerjerobiT, mecnierebaSi<br />
var dakavebuli, Tumca is danamdvilebiT<br />
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aqtiur politikaSi aucileblad<br />
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seqtori, media Tu sxva sazogadoebrivi<br />
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TiToeuli moqalaqe,<br />
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gaeazrebinaT es suliereba? zogadad,<br />
sulierebis es didi siRrmeebi<br />
adamianma, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
martoobaSi SeiZleba gaiazros,<br />
RmerTi Seimecnos. amas xom sasuliero<br />
akademia da msgavsi dawesebuleba<br />
ver Camogiyalibebs. es aris<br />
Seni urTierToba RmerTTan, saxarebis<br />
gaazreba da a. S.<br />
aseTi frazebi: marjvenaSi gagartyamen,<br />
marcxena miuSvire, uaryavi<br />
sakuTari Tavi, an pirveli qva<br />
man esrolos, vinc ucodvelia, _<br />
es azrovnebis sivrcea, rasac Zalian<br />
seriozuli gacnobiereba da<br />
gaazreba sWirdeba.<br />
CvenTan eklesia, rogorc Cveulebrivi<br />
instituti, gaZlierda,<br />
Senobebi gakeTda, galamazda, lamis,<br />
yoveli sadarbazos win ixsneba.<br />
am yvelafers sulieri moZRvari<br />
sWirdeboda. axla, saidan unda<br />
moiyvano amdeni moZRvari? marTla<br />
inkubatori xom ar aris, rom<br />
amdeni axali kadri gamouSva? amitom<br />
xalxis swraf reJimSi aRkveca<br />
xdeboda. garkveuli periodi<br />
monasterSic vicxovre da am<br />
sistemasTan Sexeba maqvs.<br />
ase xom ar aris, ori wigni waiki-<br />
Txo da es yvelaferi uceb gaiazro?..<br />
adamians saxarebis gasaazreblad,<br />
SeiZleba, mTeli cxovreba<br />
dagWirdes, imxela siRrmea am yvelaferSi<br />
Cadebuli.<br />
saboloo jamSi, ase moxda, rom<br />
namdvilad maZiebeli adamianebi<br />
CrdilSi darCnen (albaT, ase amjobines<br />
kidec) da ufro ambiciurni<br />
win wamovidnen. gaxsovT, 90-<br />
iani wlebis usamsaxuroba, adamianebma<br />
yvelaferi dakarges, realoba<br />
ucbad Seicvala. xalxi ver mixvda,<br />
ra unda gaekeTebina da eklesia<br />
Cveulebrivi sistema gaxda, sadac<br />
adamianebi saqmdebodnen. gansakuTrebuli<br />
moTxovnileba iyo<br />
didi qalaqebis taZrebze, radgan<br />
iq Semosavalic metia. es xom Cveulebrivi<br />
procesia, _ zogisTvis<br />
profesia, zogisTvis biznesi gaxldaT.<br />
albaT, aq iyo yvelaferi,<br />
sulierebis garda.<br />
aseve yvelam icis amxela dafinansebasa<br />
da gaurkvevel Tanxebze.<br />
Riad saubroben, rom iq raRac darRvevebi,<br />
klanuri dapirispirebebia,<br />
erTmaneTis sawinaaRmdegod<br />
ideba faqtebi, fotoebi. yvelam<br />
Cumad icis maT finansur cxovrebaze<br />
(maRal ierarqias vgulisxmob),<br />
Tumca amaSi aravin ereva, aravis<br />
surs amis gamoZieba da yvelaze<br />
met siyalbes swored aq vxedav.<br />
am fonze, Cven ras veZebT cxovrebaSi,<br />
realurad, ris madideblebi<br />
varT, RmerTis Tu konkretuli<br />
pirovnebebis? es Zalian<br />
saintereso sakiTxia.<br />
vici, Cemi sityvebi bevrs gaaRizianebs,<br />
magram simarTle giTxraT,<br />
es ukve naklebad maRelvebs. Cven-<br />
Tan iseTi politikuri, Tu sulieri,<br />
mentaluri krizisia, gviWirs<br />
ganviTareba, imdenad katastrofuli<br />
gaxda aq cxovreba, adamiani<br />
ise suls Rafavs amdeni ideologiisa<br />
Tu gauzrebeli avtoritetis<br />
qveS, rom yvelas ufleba gvaqvs,<br />
xma amoviRoT. es gavakeToT maSin,<br />
rodesac mZime socialuri fonia,<br />
rodesac 25 welia, garSemo aseTi<br />
siRatakea da uceb garkveuli sasuliero<br />
pirebi aranormalurad<br />
mdidrebi xdebian (maTi qoneba<br />
kolosalur cifrebs aRwevs), sapatriarqo<br />
seriozulad finansdeba<br />
da a. S.<br />
aravin icis, es yvelaferi sad<br />
midis, vis jibeSi da rogor. ase<br />
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om, Tundac amasTan mimarTebiT<br />
fariseveli da yalbi adamianebi<br />
varT. Tavs vdebT qristianobaze,<br />
amisTvis vomobT, Seuwynarebloba<br />
gvaqvs sxva, Tundac, mcire religiebis<br />
mimarT, magram sakuTar<br />
TavSi mxolod ambiciebs, Zalauflebisa<br />
da simdidris moTxovnilebas<br />
vxedavT. rasac vuyurebT,<br />
naklebad Cans, rom aq vinme Rmer-<br />
Tis, namdvili sulierebis maZiebeli<br />
iyos, es ukve Cveulebrivi saxelmwifo<br />
institutia.<br />
_ dafinanseba axseneT, wlebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi am sistemis mimarT<br />
xelisuflebis damokidebuleba<br />
rogor SeiZleba Sefasdes?<br />
_ zogadad, krizisi rom arsebobda,<br />
es, pirvel rigSi, xelisuflebas<br />
ecodineboda. gansakuTrebiT<br />
winas, sadac yvelas, yvelafers<br />
usmendnen da, bunebrivia, icodnen,<br />
mand realurad ra xdeboda... magram,<br />
ratomRac, amaze yvela Tavs<br />
iyruebda.<br />
viciT, rom yvela sociologiuri<br />
kvleviT marTlmadidebloba<br />
CvenTan dominanti religiaa, yvelaze<br />
didi avtoriteti patriarqia.<br />
yvela xelisufleba cdilobda,<br />
es saTavisod gamoeyenebina, anu<br />
religiis sistema misi interesebis<br />
gamtarebeli yofiliyo.<br />
savaraudod, saukuneebis manZilzec<br />
ase xdeboda. viciT, rom monarqias<br />
mudmivad „apravebda” sam-<br />
Rvdeloeba, rom mefe mironcxebulia<br />
da Sen misTvis unda imuSao,<br />
monebo, daemorCileT batonebs da<br />
a. S. msgavsi midgoma dRevandel<br />
realobaSic gagrZelda.<br />
ubralod, dRevandeli xelisuflebis<br />
damokidebulebas ver mivxvdi.<br />
maT ar aRelvebT dafinanseba<br />
(es gauazrebeli xarjebi), rodesac<br />
SesaZlebelia, es 25 milioni raime<br />
sxva socialur proeqts moaxmaron.<br />
qveyanaSi amdeni mSieri bavSvi<br />
gyavs da Sen am fuls haerSi isvri.<br />
realurad, ara am mimarTulebiT,<br />
aramed, isev da isev, piradi interesebisTvis<br />
erevi aRniSnul procesSi.<br />
amitom vambob, rom dRes xelisuflebis<br />
religiisadmi damokidebuleba<br />
iseTivea, rogorc es,<br />
albaT, monarqiis damokidebuleba<br />
iyo. yvela xelisufleba cdilobs,<br />
eklesia misi mxardamWeri, interesebis<br />
gamtarebeli iyos. mrevli<br />
procentulad mosaxleobis Zalian<br />
didi nawilia da xelisufleba<br />
cdilobs, rom eklesiisgan problema<br />
ar hqondes.<br />
eklesia, romelic simarTlis-<br />
Tvis mebrZoli, Rarib-RatakTa patroni<br />
unda iyos, saboloo jamSi,<br />
rogorc organizebuli religia,<br />
meore uZlieres saxelmwifo institutad<br />
mogvevlina. rac yvelaze<br />
mTavaria, ZalauflebisTvis<br />
mebrZolia.<br />
ra vqna, Tvalebidan ar amomdis<br />
(SemTxveviT gadaveyare 17 maisis<br />
ambebs), xeljoxebiT SeiaraRebuli<br />
sasuliero pirebi rogor dasdevdnen<br />
„elgebete” Temis warmomadgenlebs<br />
im fonze, roca maT ukan<br />
amxela farisevloba da siyalbe<br />
iyo. CemTvis, rigiTi mozrovne adamianisTvis,<br />
es Zalian miuRebelia.<br />
yovelTvis vityvi, rom religia<br />
adamianis intimuri urTierTobaa<br />
RmerTTan da SeuZlebelia, Suamavali<br />
arsebobdes. maSin, yvela<br />
logikiT, Tu am locvebs ritualis<br />
Zala aqvs, vinmem amixsnas, es<br />
sasuliero pirebi, maRali ierarqebi<br />
(gansakuTrebiT, Savi samRvdeloeba,<br />
romelmac beruli cxovreba<br />
gaiara), ase ram gadaagvara? ratom<br />
gaxdnen aseTi fulisa da Zalauflebis<br />
momxveWelebi? ratom<br />
mokvda maTSi adamiani?<br />
vsaubrob, Tundac, im Seuwynareblobis<br />
fonze, rasac Cven bolo<br />
periodi vxedavT, rasac religiuri<br />
Tu seqsualuri umciresobebi<br />
ganicdian. zogierTi mRvdelm-<br />
Tavari ambionidan Ria politikur<br />
gancxadebasac ki akeTebs. dRes umetesoba<br />
am mafiozur dapirispirebasa<br />
da klanur omebSia CarTuli.<br />
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qalaqisTvis, sazogadoebisTvis<br />
gamosavali sad aris, rom saRma<br />
azrma gaimarjvos?<br />
_ es individualuri gamosavalia,<br />
saRi azri, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
individma SeiZleba ipovos. veranairi<br />
organizebuli religia<br />
RmerTTan ver migiyvans. Sen, pirvel<br />
rigSi, unda dafiqrde, ras eZeb<br />
(rodesac eklesiaSi midixar), RmerTs<br />
eZeb, Tu amas im gagebiT<br />
akeTeb, rasac saxareba moiazrebs.<br />
Cven ar gvesmis sityva RmerTisa da<br />
WeSmaritebis mniSvneloba da yvela<br />
brunvaSi vatrialebT.<br />
raxan am Temaze vsaubrobT,<br />
raRac terminebiT unda gamovxatoT<br />
kidec es yvelaferi. aucileblad<br />
dasafiqrebelia, ras veZebT,<br />
_ me veZeb raRac ambiciebs, Zalauflebas,<br />
erSi ver Sevdeqi da axla<br />
eklesiaSi raRac unda vipovo, Tu<br />
me veZeb sakuTar TavSi xsnas, imis<br />
gacnobierebas, ra problema maqvs...<br />
razec aRsarebis saidumlo<br />
dgas, rom Sen gaacnobiero saku-<br />
Tari codvebi, Seni arasrulyofileba,<br />
Seni nakli. gamosavali mxolod<br />
es aris, rom adamianma daiwyos<br />
azrovneba. bolos da bolos, gaiazros,<br />
rom arsebobs organizebuli<br />
religia da religia, rogorc<br />
Sinagani gamocdileba. anu rogoria<br />
Seni gza da mizani cxovrebaSi,<br />
rom ganTavisuflde arasrulfasovnebisgan<br />
(adamiani arasrulfasovani<br />
arsebaa). ganTavisuflde absoluturad<br />
yvelafrisgan, yvela<br />
avtoritetisgan, ideologiisgan,<br />
Sen TavSi adamiani daabruno, gaxde<br />
ubralod adamiani.<br />
Cemi azriT, swored es aris sakuTari<br />
Tavis uaryofa, razec<br />
qriste saubrobda. uaryo Tavsmoxveuli<br />
idealebi Tu ideologiebi,<br />
principebi Tu stereotipebi, rac<br />
mere gonebas ganpirobebuls xdis<br />
da aseT labirinTSi Sehyavs. es er-<br />
TaderTi gamosavalia, rom adamianma<br />
azrovneba daiwyos, _ ra unda,<br />
ras eZebs am xanmokle cxovrebaSi.<br />
ras ewireba misi qmedebebi, misi ambiciebi,<br />
Tu yoveldRiuri cxovreba.<br />
am TvalsazrisiT, Tu vinmes<br />
kidev brmad egona, rom viRac avtoritetebi<br />
misTvis Suamavlebi<br />
iqnebodnen, didi imedi maqvs, mixvdebian,<br />
rom veravin migiyvans RmerTTan,<br />
Tu ara Seni gaazrebuli,<br />
gacnobierebuli da gasufTavebuli<br />
goneba.<br />
_ xedavT rame progress aRniS-<br />
nul gzaze?<br />
_ amas axal TaobaSi vxedav, visTanac<br />
Sexeba maqvs, visac vaswavli,<br />
me maTSi yvelaze mTavars, Ziebis<br />
survils vxedav. CvenSi xom didi<br />
wyveta moxda, raRac idealebze<br />
awyobili qarTuli mentaloba<br />
modioda da uceb, 21-e saukunem<br />
sruliad axali gamowvevebis winaSe<br />
dagvayena. es bavSvebi sruliad dabneulebi<br />
darCnen, veRar mixvdnen,<br />
saiT unda wavidnen.<br />
am dros maTSi Ziebis survils<br />
vxedav. aranairi brmad morCileba<br />
aRar aris. vxedav survils iswavlon,<br />
ganviTardnen, gaacnobieron, gaiazron,<br />
upirvelesad, sakuTari<br />
Tavi, vin arian. jer unda gaigo, saerTod<br />
vin xar Sen, rom mere daiwyo<br />
fiqri imaze, Tu ra substancia<br />
SeiZleba iyos RmerTi, rogor Sei-<br />
Zleba RmerTamde mixvide da a. S.<br />
Cven davkargeT mokrZaleba yvelafris<br />
mimarT, rasac „wmindas”<br />
vuwodebT. jer rom am xmamaRal<br />
sityvebs vatrialebT, aravin icis,<br />
ra aris siwminde (religiuri konteqstidan<br />
vsubrob), samagierod,<br />
Cveni RmerTi fuli da Zalaufleba<br />
gaxda.<br />
axal TaobaSi swored amas vxedav,<br />
rom aRar surT, vinmes xelSi<br />
brma iaraRad iyvnen. es iqneba saxelmwifo<br />
Tu sasuliero ideologia.<br />
xsna mxolod ganaTlebaa, gacnobiereba,<br />
azrovneba da sakuTari<br />
Tavis Zieba.<br />
_ bolo leqcia gqondaT Tem-<br />
aze, Tu rogor unda moipovos<br />
adamianma Tavisufleba, iqneb, am<br />
maradiul sakiTxsac kidev erTx-<br />
el SevexoT...<br />
_ leqciazec vambobdi, rom,<br />
pirvel rigSi, gaacnobiereT, ra<br />
giSliT xels, ris gamo ar xarT Tavisufali.<br />
rodesac dainaxav mTel<br />
im nagavs, riTac aRsavsea Seni goneba<br />
(rasac ganpirobebuli goneba<br />
hqvia), rom Sen xar mona Senive<br />
survilebis, sxeulebrivi moTxovnilebebis,<br />
idealebis, avtoritetebis,<br />
kerpebis, praqtikulad,<br />
yvelafris mona xar, jer es yvelaferi<br />
dainaxe da mere modis umniSvnelovanesi<br />
etapi, _ ginda ki am<br />
yvelafrisgan Tavisufali iyo?<br />
am yvelafrisgan Tavisufleba<br />
niSnavs, pasuxismgebloba aiRo sakuTar<br />
Tavze, yvela Sens qmedebaze.<br />
advilia, iq RmerTs daabralo,<br />
mamaos, viRac maswavlebels Camokido<br />
da Tqva, rom man miTxra, mir-<br />
Cia, albaT, Cemze ukeTesad icis,<br />
tradicia amas meubneba, winaprebi<br />
amas meubnebodnen da a. S.<br />
rodesac mzad iqnebi, sakuTar<br />
Tavze aiRo sruli pasuxismgebloba,<br />
ai, maSin gaxdebi Tavisufali.<br />
ase rom, gonebis eSmakuri TamaSebia,<br />
rodesac adamians hgonia, rom<br />
unda iyos Tavisufali.<br />
Cven vxedavdiT, rom kacobriobis<br />
istoriaSi yvela revolucia,<br />
amboxi Tavisuflebis saxeliT iwyeboda<br />
da, saboloo jamSi, is xalxi,<br />
vinc qveynis saTaveSi modioda,<br />
TviTonve diqtatori xdeboda,<br />
an msgavsi mcdelobebi hqonda. aman<br />
aCvena, rom aranairi garegnuli<br />
Tavisufleba ar arsebobs. arsebobs<br />
mxolod erTi, Sinagani Tavisufleba,<br />
Tavisufleba ganpirobebuli<br />
gonebisgan da am ganpirobebulobas<br />
Tu dainaxav, mere dasvi<br />
kiTxva, _ ginda ki Tavisufleba?<br />
xar ki mzad amisTvis? mere Sesa-<br />
Zloa, movides es Tavisufleba. amas,<br />
upirvelesad, uSiSroba sWirdeba,<br />
aseve didi energia, didi Zalisxmeva<br />
da goniereba.<br />
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ra aris skolamdeli aRzrda?<br />
ra unar-Cvevebi unda Camouyalibdes bavSvs? ra unda iswav-<br />
los da ris akrZalvas unda mivaCvioT mozardebi?.. ratom<br />
iwyeba qalaq Telavis baga-baRebSi aRzrdis procesi 9<br />
saaTidan 10-is naxevramde? ratom aris baga-baRebi 10 saaTis<br />
Semdeg Caketili? ra moswonT da ra ar moswonT aRmzrdelebs?<br />
ra icvleba da ra rCeba Sesacvleli skolamdel dawesebule-<br />
bebSi? ramdenad mniSvnelovania menius sajarooba? aris Tu<br />
ara gavrcelebuli miTi Tu realoba is faqti, rom baga-baReb-<br />
Si bavSvebs Zils ukrZalaven?<br />
yvela am mwvave da mniSvnelovan<br />
kiTxvaze „qronika+”-s pasuxobs<br />
qalaq Telavis baga-ba-<br />
Rebis gaerTianebis ufrosi _<br />
TinaTin xanjaliaSvili:<br />
_ Soridan ver daviwyebT,<br />
albaT, imitom, rom Zalian cota<br />
xania, rac baga-baRebis gae-<br />
rTianebis xelmZRvaneli xarT,<br />
magram, mainc, yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
kiTxva: ramdenad icnobT<br />
skolamdel dawesebule-<br />
bas?<br />
_ Temas ase SevxedoT: ra aris<br />
skolamdeli aRzrda? adamianis<br />
ganviTarebisTvis gadamwyveti<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs sicocxlis<br />
pirvel eqvs wels. rogorc<br />
bolo aTwleulebis kvlevebma<br />
aCvena, swored am asakSi xdeba<br />
bavSvis im Tvisebebisa da unarebis<br />
Camoyalibeba, romelic<br />
momavalSi gansazRvravs mis<br />
warmatebebsa da miRwevebs. amitom<br />
aris gansakuTrebiT mniSvnelovani,<br />
eqvs wlamde asakis<br />
bavSvebs SevuqmnaT yvela piroba<br />
maTi yovelmxirv ganviTarebisTvis.<br />
unda gvaxsovdes, rom<br />
skolis asakis bavSvebis inteleqti<br />
damokidebulia imaze, Tu<br />
ramdenad uzrunvelyofdnen<br />
ufrosebi bavSvis tvinis aqtiurad<br />
muSaobisTvis pirobebs<br />
misi cxovrebis pirveli eqvsi<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi. cnobilia,<br />
rom Tavis tvinis es areebi, romelsac<br />
ar avarjiSeben, wyvets<br />
ganviTarebas da TandaTan Sei-<br />
Zleba, nawilobriv, an mTlianad,<br />
atrofirdes.<br />
_ ra aris xarisxiani skola-<br />
mdeli ganaTlebis mTavari<br />
arsi? ra unda SecvaloT Te-<br />
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lavis baga-baRebSi?<br />
_ pirveli: saswavlo programebi,<br />
romlebic sadRac viRacisgan<br />
ki ar unda aviRoT magaliTad<br />
(Tumca kargis aReba mudam<br />
SeiZleba), nebismieri saswavlo<br />
programa kvlevaze unda<br />
iyos dafuZnebuli. baRebs aRmzrdelTa<br />
maRali kvalifikacia<br />
unda hqondeT da, amave dros,<br />
profesiuli zrdis SesaZlebloba.<br />
es ar unda iyos calmxrivi,<br />
mSoblebisa da ojaxebis<br />
mxardaWera da CarTuloba baRebTan<br />
erTad bavSvis ganviTarebis<br />
procesSi aucilebelia. aqve<br />
fizikuri, SemecnebiTi, metyvelebisa<br />
da socialur-emociuri<br />
unarebis ganviTareba, bavSvze<br />
dakvirveba da swored<br />
yvela bavSvTan individualuri<br />
midgomaa aucilebeli. yvelaze<br />
umTavresi, rac unda moxdes,<br />
aris mcire ricxviani jgufebisa<br />
da bavSvebis raodenobis<br />
adekvaturi Tanafardoba. Tumca<br />
es bolo samomavlod gadasaWreli<br />
sakiTxia.<br />
_ da Tu es yvelaferi mox-<br />
da, ras vcvliT, ra Sedegs<br />
viRebT?<br />
_ bavSvs ukeTesi saskolo<br />
mzaoba eqmneba, kargi akademiuri<br />
moswreba skolaSi da maRali<br />
maCvenebeli skolis damTavrebisas.<br />
pirvel 6 wels Cven vyriT<br />
safuZvels, Semdeg ki viRebT<br />
bavSvs, romelsac jansaRi<br />
cxovrebis wesisken aqvs midrekileba,<br />
mas SeuZlia, airidos<br />
mavne Cvevebisadmi damokidebulebebi<br />
da depresia. momavalSi<br />
igi advilad gamoavlens da gadawyvets<br />
problemebs gunduri<br />
`bavSvze fizikuri Zaladoba, sityvieri<br />
Seuracxyofa, xmamaRali saubari,<br />
bavSvTan mis mSobelze an meurveze<br />
negatiuri eniT saubari da<br />
diskriminaciuli enis gamoyeneba.<br />
gamovlenis pirvelsave dadasturebuli<br />
SemTxveva eqvemdebareba samsaxuridan<br />
daTxovas. dadasturebaSi igulisxmeba<br />
mowmeTa Cvenebebis arseboba, xolo<br />
fizikuri Zaladobis SemTxvevaSi - eqimis<br />
cnoba. Tu SedarebiT martivia darRveva,<br />
Tavdapirvelad, viZleviT gafrTxilebas,<br />
magram faqtis ganmeorebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
TanamSromeli tovebs saaRmzrdelo<br />
dawesebulebas. bavSvis ZiriTadi<br />
uflebebis darRvevis simwvavidan<br />
gamomdinare, SesaZloa, dadges<br />
TanamSromelTa rogorc individualuri,<br />
aseve jgufuri pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi.<br />
SesaZlebelia, gaerTianebam kontroli<br />
ganaxorcielos adgilobrivi<br />
xelisuflebis sxva samsaxuris<br />
warmomadgenlebTan erTad sakiTxTan<br />
SesabamisobaSi~<br />
rodis unda gadaiWras<br />
skolamdel dawesebulebebSi<br />
aRmzrdelTa kompetenciisa<br />
da anazRaurebis problema?!<br />
TinaTin xanjaliaSvili<br />
muSaobiT. igi warmatebuli adamiani<br />
iqneba warmatebul sazogadoebaSi.<br />
_ ramdenad kvalificiuri<br />
kadria dRes baga-baRebSi, rom<br />
es yvelaferi safuZvlianad<br />
Secvalos?<br />
_ am etapisTvis baga-baRis<br />
personali, met-naklebad, saWiroebs<br />
gadamzadebas, kompetenciebis<br />
amaRlebas. 2017 wlidan<br />
baRebSi kadrebis miRebaze Semdegi<br />
aqcentebi keTdeba: gamges<br />
moeTxoveba, rom saxelmwifos<br />
mier akreditebuli saswavleblebisgan<br />
aRiarebuli umaRlesi<br />
ganaTleba hqondes, sasurvelia<br />
skolamdeli aRzrda, an misi<br />
monaTesave specialoba; saxelmwifos<br />
mier akreditebuli<br />
saswavleblebisgan aRiarebuli<br />
umaRlesi ganaTleba, aseve, savaldebuloa<br />
dRisa da saRamos<br />
aRmzrdel-pedagogebisTvis<br />
skolamdeli aRzrdis, fsiqologis,<br />
an misi monaTesave specialobiT.<br />
rac Seexeba baga-baRis<br />
danarCen personals, SerCevis<br />
upiratesoba eniWeba Sesabamisi<br />
mimarTulebis profesiuli ganaTlebis<br />
mqone pirebs.<br />
_ mec myavda patara Svile-<br />
bi. maxsovs, rom seriozuli<br />
problema iyo bavSvis baRSi mi-<br />
yvana, radgan Zalian xSirad<br />
soflidan amohyavdaT da aq<br />
uwevdaT siaruli. amis mizezi<br />
ki maSin soflebSi daxuruli<br />
baga-baRebi iyo. dRes es sakiTxi<br />
soflad gadaWrilia, ma-<br />
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gram mainc aris problema,<br />
sofelSi mcxovreblebi isev<br />
TelavSi atareben bavSvebs ba-<br />
ga-baRSi. Sevsebuli jgufebis<br />
fonze ki xSirad adgilobriv<br />
moqalaqeebs problemebi uCn-<br />
debaT, sad miiyvanon bavSvebi.<br />
ra gamosavali SeiZleba moi-<br />
Zebnos am dros?!<br />
_ 2017 wlis seqtembridan es<br />
aucileblad Seicvleba. TviTmmarTvel<br />
qalaq Telavis bagabaRebSi<br />
Semaval baRebSi miiRebian<br />
mxolod fizikurad q. Telavis<br />
teritoriaze mcxovrebi<br />
bavSvebi. gamomdinare aqedan,<br />
vazusteb: mxolod qalaqis teritoriaze<br />
mcxovrebi bavSvebi!<br />
ai, im mSoblebs, romelTac<br />
sxvadasxva mizeziT naqiravebi<br />
aqvT bina aq da, am dros, sxva<br />
municipalitetis teritoriis<br />
mkvidrni arian, amis dasadastureblad<br />
mouwevT warmoadginon<br />
cnoba sacxovrebeli adgilis<br />
Sesaxeb, romelic meriis<br />
warmomadgenlis mier unda iyos<br />
gacemuli.<br />
_ e. i. mezobeli municipalitetebidan<br />
bavSvebi qala-<br />
qis baRebSi aRar miiRebian?<br />
_ ar miiRebian aRsazrdelebi,<br />
romelTa ojaxic cxovrobs<br />
municipalitetis momijnave da<br />
15 km.-is daSorebiT gaSenebul<br />
soflebSi. mimaCnia, rom adgilobrivi<br />
biujetidan mimarTuli<br />
Tanxebi, romelic am municipalitetis<br />
moqalaqeebze aris<br />
gamoyofili da ixarjeba sxva<br />
municipalitetSi mcxovreblebisTvis,<br />
aramiznobrivi xarjia<br />
da ukve didi xania, qalaqis xelmZRvanelobis<br />
Tavsatexia. am<br />
yvelafris daregulirebis Semdeg<br />
ukve Tavad qalaqSic, geografiuli<br />
mdebareobis mixedviT,<br />
gadanawildebian aRsazrdelebi.<br />
_ iyo ramdenime kiTxva: 10-<br />
is naxevris Semdeg Telavis<br />
yvela baRi iketeba da veravin<br />
Sedis. ucxo Tvalisa da yuri-<br />
sTvis ucnauria, baRis kari<br />
iketeba. zog mSobels, Sesabam-<br />
isad, sxva problemac gauCnda<br />
_ 11 saaTisTvis miyvanili aR-<br />
sazrdelisTvis baRis karic<br />
daketili daxvda da rogorc<br />
amboben, gafrTxilebulebi<br />
aRmoCndnen, rom 10-is naxe-<br />
varze bavSvebi baga-baRebSi<br />
aRar unda miiyvanon.<br />
_ diax, ar daiSvebian. bagabaRis<br />
administracia valdebulia,<br />
mSobels auxsnas, rom bagabaRSi<br />
aRsazrdelTa miReba iwyeba<br />
dilis 9:00 sT-dan 9:30-mde,<br />
9:35 wT-ze baRis kari iketeba.<br />
aRniSnuli wesi yovelTvis arsebobda,<br />
mSoblebic wlebia, am<br />
wesze informirebulni arian,<br />
amas baga-baRebSi gamokruli<br />
warwerebic adasturebs, magram<br />
mSoblebis nawili aseT axsnaganmartebebs<br />
da Txovnas ugulisyurod<br />
ekideba. karis daketvis<br />
aucilebloba ki gamowveulia<br />
Semdegi mizezebiT: aRsazrdelis<br />
gviani gamocxadebiT<br />
gviandeba aRsazrdelTaTvis<br />
raodenobis Sesabamisi sakvebis<br />
momzadeba da meorec, baRis teritoria<br />
daucvelia ucxo pir-<br />
Ta SeRwevisgan. Tumca mSobels<br />
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aqcentebi keTdeba: gamges moeTxoveba, rom saxelmwifos mier akreditebuli<br />
saswavleblebisgan aRiarebuli umaRlesi ganaTleba hqondes, sasurvelia<br />
skolamdeli aRzrda, an misi monaTesave specialoba; saxelmwifos mier<br />
akreditebuli saswavleblebisgan aRiarebuli umaRlesi ganaTleba, aseve,<br />
savaldebuloa dRisa da saRamos aRmzrdel-pedagogebisTvis skolamdeli<br />
aRzrdis, fsiqologis, an misi monaTesave specialobiT. rac Seexeba baga-<br />
baRis danarCen personals, SerCevis upiratesoba eniWeba Sesabamisi<br />
mimarTulebis profesiuli ganaTlebis mqone pirebs~<br />
nebismier dros SeuZlia Semovides<br />
da monitoringis saxiT<br />
naxos, rogor midis saswavlo<br />
procesi. aseve, gamonaklisis<br />
saxiT, SesaZlebelia, mSobelma<br />
moamzados werilobiTi gancxadeba<br />
baRis gamgis saxelze, sadac<br />
mieTiTeba, baRSi diliT<br />
gamocxadebasTan dakavSirebuli<br />
problemis Sesaxeb, amasTan<br />
mieTiTeba, rom mSobeli informirebulia<br />
9:00-9:15-mde<br />
moaxdinos aRmzrdel-pedagogis<br />
gafrTxileba im SemTxveva-<br />
Si, rodesac aRsazrdeli ar gamocxaddeba<br />
baRSi sruli dRis<br />
ganmavlobaSi. winaaRmdeg Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi, aRsazrdels 9:35-is<br />
`rogorc aRmzrdelebisgan da mSoblebisgan<br />
vici, am asakobriv jgufebSi bavSvebis<br />
umetesobas ar surs Zili da aRmzrdelisTvis<br />
rTulia, erTi mxriv, aseTi bavSvebis<br />
garTobaze zrunva uxmaurod (raTa<br />
daZinebuli bavSvebi ar Sewuxdnen) da meore<br />
mxriv, meTvalyureoba ar moaklos CaZinebul<br />
bavSvebs. am maRal asakobriv jgufebSi arian<br />
bavSvebi, romlebic dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />
iTenTebian, iRlebian. baRebs maTTvis Sesabamisi<br />
inventari, Tundac, rbili pufebi aqvT<br />
imisTvis, rom daisvenon maSin, roca ar aqvT<br />
fizikuri aqtivobebi~<br />
mere baRSi ar miiReben. es aris<br />
erTaderTi gza imisTvis, rom<br />
1550 pataras sakvebi yoveld-<br />
Riurad droulad, dilis<br />
10:30-ze miewodos da amasTan,<br />
kvebaze Tanxebis xarjvac racionalurad<br />
warimarTos.<br />
_ obieqturobisTvis unda<br />
vaRiaroT, rom marTalia, Te-<br />
lavSi jer Riad ar yofila aseTi<br />
precendenti, Tumca peda-<br />
gogi, romelic bavSvebTan<br />
urTierTobisas normebs ar-<br />
Rvevs, ra zomebs unda mimar-<br />
Tos maSin gaerTianebam?<br />
_ baRSi bavSvis ZiriTadi<br />
uflebebis uxeSi darRvevaa:<br />
bavSvze fizikuri Zaladoba,<br />
sityvieri Seuracxyofa, xmama-<br />
Rali saubari, bavSvTan mis<br />
mSobelze an meurveze negatiuri<br />
eniT saubari da diskriminaciuli<br />
enis gamoyeneba. gamovlenis<br />
pirvelsave dadasture-<br />
buli SemTxveva eqvemdebareba<br />
samsaxuridan daTxovas. dadasturebaSi<br />
igulisxmeba mowmeTa<br />
Cvenebebis arseboba, xolo fizikuri<br />
Zaladobis SemTxvevaSi _<br />
eqimis cnoba. Tu SedarebiT martivia<br />
darRveva, Tavdapirvelad,<br />
viZleviT gafrTxilebas,<br />
magram faqtis ganmeorebis Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi TanamSromeli tovebs<br />
saaRmzrdelo dawesebulebas.<br />
bavSvis ZiriTadi uflebebis<br />
darRvevis simwvavidan gamomdinare,<br />
SesaZloa, dadges TanamSromelTa<br />
rogorc individualuri,<br />
aseve jgufuri pasuxismgeblobis<br />
sakiTxi. SesaZlebelia,<br />
gaerTianebam kontroli<br />
ganaxorcielos adgilobrivi<br />
xelisuflebis sxva samsaxuris<br />
warmomadgenlebTan erTad sakiTxTan<br />
SesabamisobaSi.<br />
_ mSobeli saidan igebs, ra<br />
aqvs mis Svils sakvebi?<br />
_ baRSi TvalsaCino adgilze<br />
ganTavsebulia meniu da, amavdroulad,<br />
socialur qselSi<br />
arsebobs gverdi, sadac kvebis<br />
racionia ganTavsebuli.<br />
_ kidev erTi pretenzia:<br />
baRSi bavSvebs ar aZineben. ra<br />
aris Tqveni pasuxi?<br />
_ ukve ramdenime welia, yvela<br />
baRSi iZineben 2-3 da 3-4-<br />
wliani jgufis bavSvebi, 4-5 da<br />
5-6-wliani jgufebi ar iZineben.<br />
rogorc aRmzrdelebisgan da<br />
mSoblebisgan vici, am asakobriv<br />
jgufebSi bavSvebis umetesobas<br />
ar surs Zili da aRmzrdelisTvis<br />
rTulia, erTi mxriv,<br />
aseTi bavSvebis garTobaze<br />
zrunva uxmaurod (raTa daZinebuli<br />
bavSvebi ar Sewuxdnen) da<br />
meore mxriv, meTvalyureoba ar<br />
moakolos CaZinebul bavSvebs.<br />
am maRal asakobriv jgufebSi<br />
arian bavSvebi, romlebic dRis<br />
ganmavlobaSi iTenTebian, iRlebian.<br />
baRebs maTTvis Sesabamisi<br />
inventari, Tundac, rbili<br />
pufebi aqvT imisTvis, rom daisvenon<br />
maSin, roca ar aqvT fizikuri<br />
aqtivobebi.<br />
_ ramdenad daculia baga-<br />
baRebSi higienuri pirobebi?<br />
_ albaT, amaze sursaTis uvneblobas<br />
unda hkiTxoT. Cemgan<br />
minda icodeT, rom maqsimalurad<br />
vaxorcielebT kontrols<br />
higienasTan dakavSirebiT. ba-<br />
RebSi aRsazrdelebic da aRmzrdelebic<br />
oTaxis fexsacmliT<br />
gadaadgildebian. sisuf-<br />
Tave uzrunvelyofilia oTaxebSi,<br />
svel wertilebSi, samzareuloebsa<br />
da, mTlianad, garemoSi.<br />
mSoblebsac movuwodebT,<br />
iTanamSromlon CvenTan da nebismieri<br />
gadacdomis Sesaxeb mogvawodon<br />
Setyobineba. yvela<br />
gadacdomaze Sesabamisad vreagirebT.<br />
_ da mainc, ras isurvebdiT<br />
da ras SecvlidiT?<br />
_ met TanamSromlobas baRsa<br />
da mSoblebs Soris, aseve<br />
SromiTi anazRaurebis gazrdas<br />
baRis TanamSromelTaTvis da<br />
gazrdil kvalifikaciebs! Zalian<br />
minda, sazogadoeba baRebs<br />
meti seriozulobiT moekidos<br />
da xeli Segviwyos marTvis swori<br />
standartebis damkvidreba-<br />
Si.<br />
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romelmac mizans miaRwia da gaCerebas<br />
ar gegmavs! jer oci wl-<br />
isaa, Tumca warsuli sakmaod did gamocdilebas itevs. Tavis<br />
pirad cxovrebaze bevrs ar saubrobs. ar aqvs ocneba, radgan<br />
hgonia, rom es isaa, rac ici, rom ar agisruldeba, amitom<br />
mxolod miznebi aqvs. es ki mravalgvaria. Tavisi saqmianobidan<br />
gamomdinare, ukve biznesmenia.<br />
Tavis droze, mimtanobiT dai-<br />
wyo da axla sakuTari baris<br />
mflobelia. ambobs, yovelTvis<br />
riskavs, radgan ukan moxedvisas<br />
ar Tqvas, rom raRac ver gabeda<br />
da amitom sawadels ver miaRwia.<br />
surs, metad Zlieri iyos da<br />
sakuTari SromiT im dones miaR-<br />
wios, rac ase Zalian unda.<br />
gaicaniT, dRevandeli Cveni<br />
gmiri oci wlis biznesmeni, sofo<br />
abaSiZea:<br />
_ gamarjoba sofo, SesavalSi<br />
Senze mogviyevi cota.<br />
_ warmoSobiT qobuleTidan<br />
var, Tumca davibade da gavizarde<br />
moskovSi. sami wlis win Camovedi<br />
saqarTveloSi sacxovreblad. axla<br />
Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetSi<br />
vswavlob Jurnalistikis fakultetze,<br />
me-3 kursze var. profesiiT<br />
Jurnalisti da, amave dros,<br />
baris biznesiT dakavebuli, cota<br />
ucnaurad Cans, magram wera Zalian<br />
miyvars, amitom Cavabare Jurnalistikaze.<br />
es biznesi ki mxolod Semosavlis<br />
wyaro ki ara, is saqmea,<br />
rasac siamovnebiT vakeTeb.<br />
_ baris gaxsnis idea rodis gag-<br />
iCnda da rogor daiwyo yvelaf-<br />
eri?<br />
_ Zalian bevrs vmuSaobdi da mere<br />
mivxvdi, rom SemiZlia, viRacisTvis<br />
ki ara, sakuTari TavisTvis<br />
vumuSao amdeni, Sedegi ki ukeTesi<br />
meqneba. amitom gamiCnda baris gaxsnis<br />
idea, Tavidan ki yvelaferi imiT<br />
daiwyo, rom 2015 wels mivxvdi,<br />
aRar SemeZlo, Cems mSoblebze vyofiliyavi<br />
damokidebuli da samsaxuris<br />
Zebna daviwye. Tavidan qu-<br />
CaSi sareklamo flaerebs varigebdi.<br />
varkeTilSi dReSi 4 saaTs vmu-<br />
Saobdi. diliT adre vdgebodi da<br />
jer universitetSi mivdiodi, SualedSi<br />
vakidan varkeTilSi movdiodi<br />
da vmuSaobdi, quCaSi gauCereblad<br />
davdiodi da am sareklamo<br />
qaRaldebs varigebdi, mere isev<br />
leqciebze mivdiodi, Semdeg samuSaod<br />
vbrundebodi da ase ramdenjerme<br />
grZeldeboda dRis man-<br />
Zilze manam, sanam saxlSi wasvlis<br />
dro ar dgeboda. mere mivxvdi, rom<br />
ase muSaoba ar SemeZlo, TiToeuli<br />
kunTi, saerTod yvelaferi,<br />
Zalian mtkioda da erTi Tvis Semdeg<br />
sxva samsaxurs veZebdi. miTxres,<br />
rom erT-rT barSi mimtanis<br />
poziciaze hqondaT vakansia. radgan<br />
sxva gamocdileba ar mqonia,<br />
garda imisa, rom moskovSi vijeqi,<br />
yvavilebis Taiguls vakeTebdi da<br />
36<br />
vyiddi (roca mSoblebs vexmarebodi),<br />
amitom imaze Camovyalibdi,<br />
rom iseTi samsaxuri mWirdeboda,<br />
romelic gamocdilebas naklebad<br />
iTxovda.<br />
baris vakansiis gagebis Semdeg<br />
Tavidan iq wasvla Zalian meSinoda,<br />
Tavdajerebuli ar viyavi, amitom<br />
am barTan mivedi da lamis 20<br />
wre Semovuare, merideboda Sesvla<br />
da kiTxva, ambis gageba. mere saku-<br />
Tar Tavs vuTxari, _ axla Tu ar<br />
Sexval da gareT darCebi, maSin<br />
yvela gadagivlis da waageb-meTqi.<br />
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_ pirdapir vuTxari, _ radgan<br />
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viwyeb-meTqi. _ kargio, _ mipasuxes<br />
da meore dRes damibares. kidev<br />
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mivedi, ubralod, megobrebTan er-<br />
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_ mere rogor gadawyvite, rom<br />
sakuTari bari gagexsna?<br />
_ situaciam gadamawyvetina. jer<br />
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minimum, Ramis 2-3 saaTamde<br />
vmuSaobdi, rva Tu cxra Tvis muSaobis<br />
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garda CemTvis araferi arsebobda,<br />
janmrTelobac gamiuaresda,<br />
Zilis reJimi ameria, universitetSi<br />
ver davdiodi, amitom barmenis<br />
poziciaze gadavinacvle.<br />
zafxulSi baTumSi wavedi da barmenoba<br />
viswavle, iq vmuSaobdi, TbilisSi<br />
rom Camovedi, ukve sxva bar-<br />
Si SemomTavazes samsaxuri, jer<br />
orive adgilas vmuSaobdi, mere<br />
mivxvdi, rom ar SeiZleboda aseTi<br />
reJimiT cxovreba da Zilic Zalian<br />
mWirdeboda, amitom mxolod axlad<br />
SemoTavazebul barSi gadavedi,<br />
Tumca droTa ganmavlobaSi is<br />
daiketa da usamsaxurod davrCi.<br />
vifqrobdi, ra meqna, sad damewyo<br />
muSaoba, imdenad viyavi miCveuli<br />
samsaxurs, rom saxlSi veRar vZlebdi,<br />
mSoblebs fuls veRar vTxovdi.<br />
Zalian mindoda Cemi, sakuTari<br />
baris gaxsna, amisTvis adgils ve-<br />
Zebdi. yvela normaluri adgili<br />
gaqiravebuli iyo da Rirebuli<br />
veraferi vipove. ukve imedi dakarguli<br />
mqonda, Tumca ramdenime<br />
Tvis win Cemi da Camovida da mki-<br />
Txa, ras vakeTebdi, ratom aRar<br />
vmuSaobdi erT dros akviatebul<br />
ideaze. vuTxari, rom iseTi farTi<br />
sofo abaSiZe<br />
ver vipove, romelic karg adgilze<br />
iqneboda da sxva kriteriumebsac<br />
daakmayofilebda. vuTxari, Tu ginda,<br />
ganaxeb-meTqi da saitze SevediT.<br />
is adgili, romelic adre<br />
Zalian momewona da dakavebuli<br />
iyo, axla ukve Tavisufali aRmoCnda<br />
da ase, SemTxveviT gadavawydi,<br />
davreke da yvelaferi gamovida.<br />
_ finansebi saidan moipove?<br />
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rom erTi wlis manZilze Tanxas<br />
davabruneb.<br />
_ ra saxeli SearCie da ratom?<br />
_ „paradoqsi”, radgan me amave<br />
saxelwodebis safirmo koqteili<br />
maqvs, plus, yvelafers rasac vakeTebT,<br />
paradoqsulobiT vxsniT<br />
xolme. gaxsnis dResac erT-erTi<br />
stumari mRvdeli iyo _ esec paradoqsuli<br />
aRmoCnda. isic erToboda<br />
yvelasTan erTad. nebismieri sakiTxi<br />
SeiZleba avxsnaT, rogorc<br />
paradoqsi am barSi, zustad amitom<br />
davarqvi.<br />
_ Tavad ras akeTeb barSi?<br />
_ barmeni var, megobrebi bevr<br />
rameSi mexmarebian. adre movdivar,<br />
bars valageb, mere zogjer samzareuloSic<br />
vakeTeb xolme saWmelebs.<br />
TiTqmis yvelafers me vakeTeb.<br />
Tumca cakle mzareulic myavs,<br />
ra Tqma unda.<br />
_ swavlas rogor uTavseb am<br />
yvelafers?<br />
_ axla universitetSi dasveneba<br />
gvaqvs, amitom jer vaTavseb, magram<br />
merec, savaraudod, movaswreb,<br />
radgan saRamoobiT vxsni xolme<br />
bars da leqciebze dRis man-<br />
Zilze unda viaro. Tu kargad ver<br />
SevuTavse, maSin sxva barmens aviyvan<br />
da naxevar ganakveTze vamuSaveb.<br />
_ sabolood, ra aris Seni mizani?<br />
am sistemaSi apireb darCe-<br />
nas da barmenobas?<br />
_ ara, sabolood, minda, Sevdge<br />
da im dones mivaRwio, rac Cafiqrebuli<br />
maqvs. minda, yvelas davumtkico,<br />
rom raRac SemiZlia.<br />
_ pirvelad gadawyvetileba vis<br />
gaande?<br />
_ Tavidan es iyo ideis doneze,<br />
2 wlis manZilze, ubralod, vambobdi,<br />
rom minda da morCa. amaze mamidaSvilTan<br />
vsaubrobdi, romelTan<br />
erTadac vcxovrob. jer erTad<br />
gvindoda gagvexsna, magram mere<br />
davfiqdi da mivxvdi, rom saqmiani<br />
urTierToba megobrobas afuWebs<br />
da mirCevnia, martom gavakeTo es,<br />
vidre megobrebi davkargo da, saboloo<br />
jamSi, raRac cudi Sedegi<br />
moitanos am yvelaferma.<br />
_ rogor mixvdi, rom es sfero<br />
unda<br />
iyos is, sadac Seni adgil-<br />
ia?<br />
_ jer mimtanoba rom daviwye,<br />
mivxvdi, rom, Turme, adamianebTan<br />
komunikacia SemiZlia da kargad<br />
gamomdis. roca xalxi Semodioda,<br />
ukve Cemi naxva uxarodaT da mekiTxebodnen,<br />
mwerdnen kidec, rodis<br />
vmuSaobdi, rom maSin mosuliyvnen<br />
da im dRes eWamaT, daeliaT.<br />
yvelasTan kargi urTierToba<br />
Camovayalibe. axlac rom vmegobrobT,<br />
es faqti Zalian mixaria.<br />
roca barmenoba daviwye, mere mivxvdi,<br />
rom Cemi wvlili Semqonda<br />
urTierTobaSi, radgan barmeni<br />
bevr adamiansac exmareba komunikaciisas.<br />
es Cveulebrivi fsiqologia.<br />
bevr Temaze vsaubrobT xolme.<br />
amis garda, TviTon vigoneb koqteilebs,<br />
romlis gemoc Tavad ar<br />
vici, radgan verafers vekarebi,<br />
rasac Saqari aqvs, rac tkbilia da<br />
saqarozas Seicavs. bavSvobidan ase<br />
var, saqarozas Semcveli nebismieri<br />
produqtis gasinjvisTanave Rebineba<br />
mewyeba, Sesabamisad, TiTqmis<br />
arc erTi Cemi gakeTebuli koqteilis<br />
gemo ar vici, Tu odnav mainc<br />
tkbilia. arada, roca stumars<br />
raimes vumzadeb, Tavad ar vici<br />
xolme gemo, Tumca, roca adamians<br />
ajareb, rom rasac sTavazob, is<br />
kargia da gemrielia, swored ise<br />
miiRebs, rogorc awodeb, Tan Tu<br />
amateb imas, rom Tu ar moewoneba,<br />
Tavad gadavixdi, es ukve sxva ambavia.<br />
bolos, mainc urTierToba ayalibebs<br />
am ndobas da ara sxva ram.<br />
_ gaqvs gadawyvetileba,<br />
romelic ginania?<br />
_ araferi minania saerTod.<br />
saqarTveloSi rom Camovedi, cota<br />
xans megona, vnanobdi am nabijs,<br />
magram imdenad kargad avawyve Cemi<br />
cxovreba da imdenad Camoyalibebuli<br />
pirovneba aRmovCndi, ukve<br />
mixaria, aq rom Camovedi. damouk-<br />
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ara maRal quslebze<br />
ideblobas SeveCvie.<br />
_ ra sirTuleebi Segxvedria<br />
cxovrebaSi?<br />
_ gansakuTrrebuli araferi.<br />
gaaCnia, rogor Sexedav movlenebs.<br />
Tu SeZeli raRacis gadalaxva, es,<br />
sirTule ki ara, cxovrebis garkveuli<br />
etapia. marTalia, maSin ggonia,<br />
rom sirTulea, magram, realurad,<br />
es cxovrebis etapia. am dros ise-<br />
Ti adamiani, an adamianebi gWirdeba,<br />
romlebic getyvian, rom amas<br />
Cvulebriv gadalaxav da Zlieri<br />
unda iyo.<br />
_ ra ggonia, vis hgavxar?<br />
_ ar myavs aranairi gmiri, me var<br />
Cemi gmiri, is adamiani, vinc 20 da<br />
30 wlis Semdeg warmomidgenia.<br />
_ ra aris is, rac SenTvis yve-<br />
laze Zvirfasia adamianSi?<br />
_ gulwrfeloba. ar miyvars<br />
tyuili, mware simarTle mirCevnia.<br />
_ visTvis, an risTvis ar genane-<br />
ba rame?<br />
_ aravisTvis, radgan vfiqrob,<br />
rom me Tu ar vanaxe, gavunawile,<br />
ar vaCuqe sxvas, is ver SeZlebs,<br />
gaagrZelos sikeTe da sxva gaabednieros,<br />
an, ubralod, ramiT asiamovnos.<br />
Tu adamiani Tavad ar<br />
akeTebs imas, rasac sxvas aswavlis,<br />
es arasworia. e. i. maswavlebelia,<br />
magram TviTon ver iqceva sworad.<br />
_ risi gjera?<br />
_ Tovlis babuis. bavSvobidan.<br />
ra vqna? mjera! yvela meubneba, rom<br />
ar arsebobs da viRac gadacmuli<br />
kacia, romelic bavSvebs atyuebs,<br />
magram mjera. feriebisac mjera.<br />
_ risi keTeba giyvars yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ Zili miyvars, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
ar mZinavs.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebs?<br />
_ adamiani rom yvelas yvelafers<br />
aswavlis, yvelaze Wkviani<br />
hgonia Tavi. arada, yvelaferi xom<br />
SedarebiTia, ar arsebobs yvelaferSi<br />
erTdroulad ganviTarebuli<br />
adamiani. mTeli cxovrebis<br />
manZilze raRacas vswavlobT.<br />
_ risi Secvlaa saWiro siste-<br />
maSi?<br />
_ is, rom Tundac mimtani an<br />
barmeni mxolod movaleobis gamo<br />
akeTebs am saqmes. rac evaleba, mxolod<br />
magas akeTebs. Tavisi saqme<br />
ar uyvars. mxolod movaleobis<br />
gamo ki ar uda gauRimos stumars,<br />
aramed imitom, rom adamians uxaria<br />
eg Rimili, vfiqrob, rom sistemaSi<br />
TviTon am sistemis warmomadgenlebi<br />
arian Sesacvleli. samuSaosac<br />
ise unda Sexedon, rogorc<br />
adamianebTan urTierTobas da ara,<br />
ubralod, movaleobas.<br />
_ SenTvis samagaliTo vin aris?<br />
_ magaliTi ara, magram ideaSi<br />
myavs warmodgenili sakuTari Tavi<br />
10-20 wlis Semdeg, rogoric minda<br />
viyo. minda, imas mivaRwio, rom Tqma<br />
SevZlo, me es gavakeTe, radgan mindoda!<br />
_ Jurnalistikis fakultetze<br />
ratom Caabare?<br />
_ wera miyvars da amitom.<br />
leqsebs vwer. wignis dawera minda<br />
da imedi maqvs, gamomiva.<br />
_ ra geamayeba?<br />
_ is, rom roca Cems das an Zmas<br />
kiTxva, rCeva an saubari sWirdeba,<br />
CemTan modian da melaparakebian.<br />
ra Tqma unda, megobrebi hyavT, magram<br />
mainc me mirekaven. Cemi 9 wlis<br />
Zma me melodeba sasaubrod, Cems<br />
das sul CemTan unda yofna.<br />
_ kmayofili xar xolme saku-<br />
Tari TaviT?<br />
_ gaaCnia, rodis. ZiriTadad,<br />
Zalian susti mgonia Cemi Tavi da<br />
Zalian maRizianebs es. minda, rom<br />
ufro Zlieri gavxde da Cemi sityva<br />
bevr rames niSnavdes.<br />
_ rogor fiqrob, sakuTari<br />
Tavi ipove?<br />
_ vfiqrob, rom sakuTari Tavis<br />
povna SeuZlebelia, radgan cx-<br />
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ovrebis manZilze sul raRac axali<br />
gesmis da gizidavs. Tu ggonia,<br />
rom sakuTari Tavi ipove, SesaZloa,<br />
ramdenime weliwadSi mixvde,<br />
rom, Turme, ar gipovia da sxva rame<br />
ginda. ubralod, unda ipovo adgili,<br />
sadac Tavs kargad igrZnob im<br />
mocemuli droisTvis. sakuTari bedniereba<br />
unda ipovo. me ar mipovia.<br />
_ ra ggonia, rodis daisveneb<br />
yvelafrisgan?<br />
_ arasdros. roca mets aRwev,<br />
metis miRweva ginda: meti swavla,<br />
metis gakeTeba, amisgan verasdros<br />
daisveneb.<br />
_ raze fiqrob xolme yvelaze<br />
xSirad?<br />
_ imaze, rom jer imis gakeTeba<br />
ar gamomdis, rac minda. raRac<br />
problemebi geqmneba cxovrebaSi,<br />
sul raRac axali iCens Tavs, sxvadasxva<br />
safiqralia, magram vcdilob,<br />
rom, zogadad, problemebze<br />
ar vifiqro, Tumca bolo dros saerTod<br />
arc ki maqvs imis dro, rom<br />
yofiTi Temebis garda sxva rameze<br />
vifiqro. vzivar da meqanikurad<br />
vakeTeb raRacas.<br />
_ raze ocnebob?<br />
_ araferze. eg xom iseTi ramea,<br />
rasac verasdros miaRwev. danarCeni<br />
mizania. es ki bevri maqvs, magram<br />
auxdeneli _ ara. marTalia, bevri<br />
rame minda da cota meocnebec var,<br />
magram zRvars vavleb mizansa da<br />
ocnebas Soris. Zalian bevrs Tu<br />
moindomeb, aisruleb.<br />
_ axla ra aris Seni mizani?<br />
_ axla minda, rom es bari kargad<br />
Camovayalibo. im donemde minda<br />
mivide, romelic ideaSi maqvs.<br />
minda, wigni davwero, minda, bolomde<br />
damoukidebeli viyo. minda,<br />
rom xval gaviRviZo da ar vifiqro,<br />
rogor unda gadavixado komunalurebis<br />
Tanxa, puri rogor viyido<br />
da a. S. SemiZlia, dedas davureko<br />
da daxmareba vTxovo, magram<br />
amas ar gavakeTeb, radgan Cemi<br />
bralia, Tu es ver SevZeli.<br />
_ ra aris SenTvis Tavisufle-<br />
ba?<br />
_ arCevani.<br />
_ Tavisufali xar?<br />
_ bolomde ara.<br />
_ ra gzRudavs?<br />
_ sazogadoeba. saqarTveloSi<br />
bevri ramis gakeTeba SeuZlebelia<br />
da Tu gaakeTeb, Sen garSemo Zalian<br />
bevr adamians dakargav, amitomac<br />
yvelas gaqceva unda aqedan. Tumca<br />
ramdenime wlis Semdeg im sasurvel<br />
dones rom mivaRwev, aRar davfiqrdebi,<br />
Tu ramden adamians davkargav<br />
Cem garSemo, radeni adamiani<br />
mimiRebs da ramdeni _ ara. axla,<br />
ubralod, amisTvis dro mWirdeba.<br />
axla imdenad damoukidebeli ar<br />
var, rom am Tavisuflebas mivaRwio.<br />
_ Sinaganad ramdeni wlis xar?<br />
_ gaaCnia, xadaxan mgonia, rom 2<br />
wlis bavSvi var, xandaxan _ 60 wlis.<br />
_ yvelaze didi STabeWdileba<br />
ram moaxdina Senze?<br />
_ bebiam. mivxvdi, rom adamians<br />
SeuZlia, sakuTari Tavi da cxovreba<br />
daiviwyos da yvelaferi sxvis<br />
gamo akeTos, Tan ise, rom ar Tqvas,<br />
Tqven gamo vakeTeb amaso. ubralod,<br />
Tavis cxovrebas swiravs<br />
imisTvis, rom irgvliv xalxi bednieri<br />
iyos.<br />
iciT, flaerebs rom varigebdi,<br />
imaze vfiqrobdi, rom pirvelive<br />
dRes ver gavZeli, imdenad rTuli<br />
iyo sirbili universitetsa da samsaxurs<br />
Soris, sirbili, dgoma, mTeli<br />
4 saaTi gauCereblad unda gevlo.<br />
erTi kviris Semdeg vfiqrobdi,<br />
rom Tavs davanebebdi da isev<br />
mSoblebs vTxovdi fuls, Tumca<br />
dRis bolos, roca ukve saxlSi<br />
unda wavsuliavi da ver mivdiodi,<br />
radgan fexebi sastikad mtkioda,<br />
imaze vfqirobdi, Tu ratom Seu-<br />
Zlia bebias ase Tavganwirulad<br />
muSaoba da me _ ara. is Tu Cem gamo<br />
amdens akeTebs, mec SemiZlia!<br />
_ riT isveneb?<br />
_ adre viqrobdi, rom dasveneba<br />
iyo saxlSi yofna, arafers keTeba<br />
da filmis yureba, magram mivxvdi,<br />
rom muSaobis dros visveneb. ar<br />
SemiZlia, saxlSi vijde da, ubralod,<br />
ase viyo. momwons, rom aseTi<br />
reJimi maqvs. diliT distribucia<br />
gaRviZebs, unda mixvide da raRac<br />
gaakeTo, irbino, bankSi Sexvide,<br />
problemebi geqmneba... esaa dasveneba.<br />
roca ukve dasaZineblad mivdivar,<br />
xSirad vxvdebi, rom kidev<br />
aqeT, qaosSi minda.<br />
_ vin aris sofo abaSiZe?<br />
_ ubralod, adamiani, Tavisi<br />
miznebiT.<br />
_ SenTvis siyvaruli ras niS-<br />
navs?<br />
_ yvelafers. yvelaniari siyvaruli<br />
aris is biZgi da stimuli,<br />
romelic win giSvebs, gaswavlis da<br />
cdilobs im idealamde, im donemde<br />
gagiyvanos, ris miRwevasac cdilob.<br />
egoisti ar xar, mxolod sakuTar<br />
Tavze ki ara, sxvebzec fiqrob.<br />
cdilob, rom kargad iyvnen.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />
zogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ ar geSinodes arafris da gariske<br />
sul, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
geSina, ggonia, ar gamogiva, _ Sen<br />
gamogiva imitom, rom es ginda!<br />
imaze ar idardo, rom vals daideb,<br />
ar idardo, rom raRac ar gamogiva,<br />
Secdomas gaiTvaliswineb<br />
da imaves aRar dauSveb, meored gamogiva.<br />
es nabiji Tu ar gadadgi,<br />
verafers miaRwev, iseTi susti<br />
darCebi, rogoric xar, araferic<br />
ar Seicvleba.<br />
yvelafer amasTan erTad ki, rac<br />
mTavaria, ubralod, adamianebi<br />
davrCeT da erTmaneTi gavaxaroT.<br />
me wamovedi, is ki Tavis barSi<br />
darCa. saRamos stumrebs elodeba<br />
da amitom iqaurobas awes-<br />
rigebs. iqidan gamosuli bevr<br />
rameze vfiqrobdi. sabolood ki<br />
davrwmundi, rom Tu marTla moindomeb,<br />
miznis miRwevaSi win veraferi<br />
dagidgeba. man SeZlo! Sem-<br />
degi Sen xar!<br />
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gverdi moamzada<br />
levan janezaSvilma<br />
borjRalosnebma espaneli lomebic dasces<br />
saqarTvelos erovnuli saragbo nakre-<br />
bi damajereblad miiwevs `ragbi evropis~<br />
Cempionatis morigi titulisken. mesame<br />
turis matCi borjRalosnebma tradiciu-<br />
lad uxerxul metoqe espaneTTan gamarTes.<br />
valiadolidSi maspinZlebma medgari<br />
winaaRmdegoba gagviwies da pirveli taimic<br />
mogviges, magram Cveni gundis ufro maRal-<br />
ma klasma mainc Tavisi qna da, sabolood,<br />
20:10 gavimarjveT.<br />
borjRalosnebma espaneTSi gansxvavebuli<br />
stiliT iTamaSes. milton heigis Segirdebma<br />
uari Tqves cnobili qarTuli molis<br />
gamoyenebaze da yvela derefnis Semdeg xeldaxel<br />
cdilobdnen ieriSis gaSlas. aman<br />
ramdenjerme gaamarTla da mwvave Setevebidan<br />
ori leloTi dasrulda.<br />
raki mesame turSi wina metoqeebTan SedarebiT<br />
Zlier oponentTan gviwevda brZola,<br />
heigma Semadgenloba gaaZliera da ‘lomebTan~<br />
TamaSisTvis ramdenime liders uxmo<br />
- meore xazSi giorgi nemsaZes kote miqautaZe<br />
Seuwyvilda; aRdga ZiriTadi RerZi -<br />
vasil lobJaniZisa da laSa xmalaZis dueti;<br />
dabrundnen kvaWebi - jaba bregvaZe da<br />
Salva mamukaSvili, Tumca es badri alxazaSvilisa<br />
da giorgi WyoiZis travmebma ganapiroba;<br />
travma moiSuSa da gunds daubrunda<br />
daviT kaWarava.<br />
paralelurad, heigi axali xalxis gamocdas<br />
ganagrZobs da Serkinebis mesame xazSi<br />
oTar giorgaZem iTamaSa; Secvlaze iTamaSa<br />
da meore kepi moixveWa giorgi cucqiriZem;<br />
axalbedebi iyvnen burjebi, xolo xazis<br />
moTamaSeTagan ors debiuti hqonda. soso<br />
maTiaSvilma TamaSi sastarto SemadgenlobaSi<br />
daiwyo da debiuti leloTi aRniSna.<br />
travmirebuli kapitnis, merab SariqaZis<br />
nacvlad, Secvlaze pirvelive taimSi badri<br />
liparteliani Sevida, romelic 250-e borjRalosani<br />
gaxda.<br />
angariSi espanelebma matCis debiutSi<br />
jarimiT gaxsnes. borjRalosnebma teritoriuli<br />
da saTamaSo upiratesoba moipoves,<br />
Tumca metoqem Tavi kargad daicva da merab<br />
kvirikaSvilma wonasworoba mxolod 22-e<br />
wuTze aRadgina. amas qarTvelTa Secdomebi<br />
moyva, riTac `lomebma~ isargebles da<br />
ragbi evropis wlevandel gaTamaSebaSi pirveli<br />
lelo dagvides. mizans meorexazeli<br />
ngavindi miswvda, linqleiTerma gardasaxa<br />
da taimi 10:3 dasrulda.<br />
Sesvenebis Semdeg borjRalosnebi<br />
moedanze ufro mobilizebuli gavidnen da<br />
es Sedegze maleve aisaxa.<br />
44-e wuTze derefnidan gaTamaSebuli<br />
kombinaciis Semdeg leloSi Salva mamukaSvili<br />
Sefrinda, Tumca burTis damiwebamde<br />
fexi gverdiT xazs Seaxo; oriode wuTSi<br />
kvirikaSvilma xazi gaWra, maTiaSvilma kargad<br />
iara, lobJaniZem jarima swrafad gaiTamaSa,<br />
xmalaZem mcvelebi crumoZraobaze<br />
gamoiWira da SeboWilma burTi cali xeliT<br />
ZelebsSua daamiwa, Tumca referim CaTvala,<br />
rom bolo momentSi laSam burTze kontroli<br />
dakarga.<br />
erT wuTSi lelo mainc gavida - derefnidan<br />
karisken ramdenime dartymis Semdeg<br />
lobJaniZem Setevis mimarTuleba Secvala,<br />
giorgi TxilaiSvilma pirveli mboWavi<br />
kontaqtiT Camoicila, meores dausxlta da<br />
lelo dado. kvirikaSvilma gardasaxviT<br />
angariSi gaaTanabra - 10:10.<br />
58-e wuTze borjRalosnebi matCSi pirvelad<br />
da sabolood dawinaurdnen. kvirikaSvilma<br />
mcvelebis zurgsukan carieli sivrce<br />
SeniSna da burTi Seacura, mas debiutanti<br />
maTiaSvili miyva, aitaca da alamTan<br />
Sexta. kvirikaSvilma rTuli poziciidan<br />
gardasaxa.<br />
espanelebi movlenebis aseT ganviTarebas<br />
ar Seeguen da mwvaved Segvities. daaxloebiT<br />
10 wuTi TamaSi Cveni 22-is xazTan mimdinareobda,<br />
borjRalosnebma Tavis dacva<br />
moaxerxes, mere SerkinebaSi imZlavres, sabala<br />
sinbiniTac daisaja da situacia ganimuxta.<br />
radgan dro iwureboda da bonus<br />
qulisTvis TamaSi aRar gamodioda, Tanac<br />
metoqes mxolod erTi gardasaxuli lelo-<br />
Ti vjobdiT, kvirikaSvilma 78-e wuTze jarima<br />
karSi daartya da saboloo Sedegi<br />
daafiqisra - 20:10.<br />
kviras, 12 marts, borjRalosnebs wlis<br />
erT-erTi uprincipulesi matCi eliT – 18<br />
saaTze ‘dinamo arenaze~ saqarTvelo-ruse-<br />
Tis dapirispireba daiwyeba.<br />
espaneTi - saqarTvelo 10:20<br />
espaneTi: lopes peresi, bernsi, alberto<br />
blanko alonso, gavidi, sanCes borego, vilianueva<br />
martini, kanosa, fontana, rue, beli,<br />
Jorba, alvaresi, sni, kastejoni, linqleiteri<br />
Secvlaze Sevidnen: fransisko blanko<br />
alonso, auski, sabala arieta, giiomi, fouldsi,<br />
ramos martini, ximeno soria, mingiioni<br />
mwvrTneli: santiago santosi<br />
lelo: gavidi<br />
gardasaxva: linqleiteri<br />
jarima: linqleiteri<br />
saqarTvelo: TeTraSvili, mamukaSvili, bekoSvili,<br />
nemsaZe, miqautaZe, giorgaZe, TxilaiSvili,<br />
lomiZe, lobJaniZe, xmalaZe, Todua,<br />
SariqaZe, kaWarava, maTiaSvili, kvirikaSvili<br />
Secvlaze Sevidnen: bregvaZe, mataraZe,<br />
tabiZe, cucqiriZe, begaZe, liparteliani,<br />
wiklauri<br />
mwvrTneli: milton heigi<br />
lelo: TxilaiSvili, maTiaSvili<br />
gardasaxva: kvirikaSvili (2)<br />
jarima: kvirikaSvili<br />
gaimarTa mesame turis sxva matCebic.<br />
ruseTma rumineTs umaspinZla da 10:30 damarcxda,<br />
germania-belgiis daZabuli dapirispireba<br />
ki maspinZelTa gamarjvebiT, 34:29<br />
dasrulda.<br />
saturniro mdgomareoba sami turis Semdeg:<br />
1. saqarTvelo – 14 qula<br />
2. rumineTi – 10<br />
3. germania – 8<br />
4. espaneTi – 4<br />
5. ruseTi – 4<br />
6. belgia – 2<br />
ori medali<br />
poloneTidan<br />
reitingSi saukeTeso<br />
SavdaTuaSvilia<br />
poloneTis qalaq katoviceSi<br />
Ziudos Ria turniri gaimarTa,<br />
sadac saqarTvelodan is Ziudo-<br />
istebi wavidnen, romlebic ero-<br />
vnul nakrebSi iSviaTad xvdebian<br />
da wonis pirvel-meore nomrebSi<br />
ar moiazrebian. Sesabamisad, es ma-<br />
TTvis didi gamowveva iyo – warmatebulebs<br />
winsvlisa da nakreb-<br />
Si dawinaurebis Sansi miecemodaT.<br />
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sxva qveynebi ki poloneTSi sakmaod<br />
Zlieri SemadgenlobiT Cavidnen<br />
da swored amitom, qarTvel-<br />
Ta mier mopovebuli ori medali<br />
sulac ar aris urigo Sedegi.<br />
vercxlis medals daeufla 60<br />
kilogram woniT kategoriaSi moaspareze<br />
laSa Caduneli, romelmac<br />
finalamde xuTi Sexvedra Caatara<br />
da xuTive wmindad moigo, gadamwyvet<br />
brZolaSi ki ebrael daniel<br />
ben davidTan damarcxda.<br />
Cveni delegaciidan kvarcxlbekze<br />
aseve avida zviad kapanaZe (73<br />
kg), romelic meoTxedfinalSi damarcxda,<br />
magram mere damamSvidebel<br />
raundSi zedized ori brZola moigo.<br />
amasobaSi ki Ziudos saerTaSoriso<br />
federaciam axali reitingebi<br />
gamoaqveyna, sadac qarTvelTa<br />
poziciebi aseTia:<br />
60 kg: amiran papinaSvili mexuTe<br />
adgilzea, romlis Semdegac saukeTeso<br />
Sedegi CveneburTagan luxum<br />
Cxvimians aqvs – 44-e pozicia;<br />
66 kg: evropis moqmedi Cempioni<br />
vaJa margvelaSvili mexuTea, danarCeni<br />
qarTvelebi ki aseuls miRma<br />
arian;<br />
73 kg: laSa SavdaTuaSvili meo-<br />
Txea, sxva wonebSi ki qarTvelebi<br />
saukeTeso oTxeulSic ver Sedian.<br />
amave wonaSi meaTe safexurzea nugzar<br />
tatalaSvili;<br />
81 kg: avTandil WrikiSvili,<br />
romelic ukve 90 kilogramSi<br />
Widaobs, me-11 adgilamde daqveiTda,<br />
me-18-a zebeda rexviaSvili, 54-<br />
e – uSangi margiani. nugzar tatalaSvili,<br />
romelic axla mkvidrdeba<br />
81-Si, jerjerobiT, 131-ea;<br />
90 kg: varlam liparteliani,<br />
romelic ukve aRar Widaobs 90<br />
kilogramSi, me-9 poziciamde daqveiTda,<br />
beqa RviniaSvili ki, romelic<br />
am wonaSi Cveni mTavari imedia,<br />
meaTea;<br />
100 kg: am wonaSi axlad gadasulma<br />
lipartelianma ukve moaswro<br />
37-e adgilamde asvla da misi<br />
winsvla aucileblad gagrZeldeba.<br />
mecxrea RviniaSvili, romelic 90-<br />
Si dabrunda.<br />
+100 kg: mZime wonaSi bolo<br />
dros SedegianobiT veRar gamovirCeviT<br />
da reitingic Sesabamisi<br />
gvaqvs – levan matiaSvili me-17-a,<br />
adam oqruaSvili me-20, guram Tu-<br />
SiSvili ki 49-e.<br />
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Cempionis danakargi da waugebeli maspinZlebi<br />
gasul uqmeebze saqarTvelos<br />
erovnuli safexburTo Cempionati<br />
daiwyo. erovnuli liga – amieri-<br />
dan ase ewodeba gaTamaSebas, romelsac<br />
aqamde umaRlesi liga er-<br />
qva. saxelwodebis garda, saqarT-<br />
velos Cempionats kidev bevri ram<br />
Seecvala. uZlieres ligaSi amieridan<br />
10 gundi iTamaSebs, Cem-<br />
pionati ki gazafxuli-Semodgomis<br />
sistemaze gadavida.<br />
ras mogvitans es siaxleebi, amas<br />
garkveuli drois gasvlis Semdeg<br />
gavigebT, manamde ki SevajamoT, ra<br />
moxda pirvel turSi.<br />
erovnuli liga qveynis moqmedi<br />
Cempionis, `samtrediisa~ da qobuleTis<br />
`Suquras~ matCiT gaixsna.<br />
favoritebad, ra Tqma unda, maspin-<br />
Zlebi miiCneodnen da dasawyisSi<br />
yvelaferi maTTvis sasikeTod mimdinareobda.<br />
daviT raJamaSvilma<br />
Cempionatis sadebiuto goli gaitana<br />
da Tavisianebi daawinaura,<br />
Tbilisma martis pirvel ricxvebSi uefas<br />
samits umaspinZla. RonisZiebis mTavari Tema aRmosavleT<br />
evropis qveynebSi fexburTis masobri-<br />
obis ganviTareba iyo.<br />
samiti uefas istoriaSi pirvelad Catarda da<br />
masSi saqarTvelos, aRmosavleT evropis 13 qveynis,<br />
SvedeTisa da irlandiis fexburTis federaciebis<br />
xelmZRvanelebi da mTavrobis warmomadgen-<br />
lebi monawileobdnen.<br />
samitze aseve imsjeles qalTa fexburTis ma-<br />
sobriobis ganviTarebasa da fexburTSi CarTuli<br />
adamianebis ricxvis zrdisaTvis saganmanaTleblo<br />
proeqtebis aucileblobis mniSvnelobaze.<br />
samitis bolos samuSao procesi uefas erovnu-<br />
li asociaciebis xelmZRvanelma, zoran lakoviCma<br />
Seafasa: „upirvelesad, madlobas vuxdi saqarTvelos<br />
fexburTis federacias SesaniSnavad Sesrule-<br />
buli samuSaosTvis. es Cveni pirveli samitia,<br />
magram pirveli taimis miwuruls<br />
stumarTa mcvelma levan sabaZem<br />
angariSi gaqviTa.<br />
`samtredias~ gamarjvebis golis<br />
gasatanad sakmarisze meti dro<br />
hqonda. imerelTa wisqvilze imanac<br />
daasxa wyali, rom `Suquras~ brazilieli<br />
jefersoni gauZeves, magram<br />
samtredielma qomagebma nanatri<br />
goli verafriT ixiles.<br />
`dinamo Tbilisma~, sadac zamTris<br />
periodSi bevri cvlileba moxda<br />
(mTavari mwvrTnelis Secvlis<br />
CaTvliT), foTis `kolxeTs~ gamarjvebis<br />
goli pirvel taimSi gautana.<br />
baCana arabulis mier gatanil<br />
burTs zRvispirelebma verafriT<br />
upasuxes. vnaxoT, gaagrZelebs Tu<br />
ara warmatebul svlas kaxa kaWaravas<br />
mier gawvrTnili `dinamo~, `kolxeTisTvis~<br />
ki es marcxi tragedia<br />
ar unda iyos, foTelebma uSualo<br />
konkurentebTan WidilSi unda<br />
daamtkicon, rom uZlieresTa<br />
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Soris TamaSis Rirsni arian.<br />
yvelaze sanaxaobrivi Sexvedra<br />
`mixeil mesxis~ saTadarigo moedanze<br />
gaimarTa, sadac erTmaneTs ori<br />
ambiciuri klubi daupirispirda.<br />
samive goli Sesvenebamde gavida -<br />
Temur Sonias gols `lokomotivis~<br />
forvardma irakli sixaruliZem<br />
dubliT upasuxa. giorgi devdarianis<br />
mier gawvrTnilma axalgazrdulma<br />
gundma mniSvnelovani sami<br />
qula miiTvala, baTumelTaTvis ki<br />
es marcxi, wesiT, mtkivneuli unda<br />
iyos – `dinamo~, romelic ganvlil<br />
satransfero periodSi legionerebiT<br />
gaZlierda da zafxulSi evropis<br />
ligaze mosinjavs Zalebs, aSkarad<br />
ar apirebs erovnuli ligis erT<br />
rigiT gundad yofnas.<br />
turis erTaderTi ugolo mat-<br />
Ci zestafonSi gaimarTa. `Cixuram~<br />
swored iq umaspinZla goris `dilas~.<br />
mTlianobaSi, Sexvedra urigo<br />
sanaxavi ar yofila, ubralod,<br />
uefas samiti<br />
TbilisSi<br />
romelic Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo uefasTvis, Cven<br />
avirCieT saqarTvelo, rogorc maspinZeli da aman<br />
namdvilad gaamarTla. Cveni gegmaa, gavagrZeloT ase<br />
muSaoba da erTad SevikriboT masobriobis ganvi-<br />
TarebisaTvis aucilebeli nabijebis gansasazRvrad~.<br />
samitis dasrulebis Semdeg saqarTvelos fexbur-<br />
Tis federaciis generalurma mdivanma, daviT mujir-<br />
ma, madloba gadauxada uefas gamocxadebuli<br />
ndobisa da mxardaWerisTvis.<br />
„CvenTvis didi pativia, rom am samits vumaspin-<br />
ZleT. es kidev erTi dafasebaa im proeqtebisa, rac<br />
2016 wlis ganmavlobaSi Catarda. Cven samitze warvadgineT<br />
ara mxolod is programebi, rac ukve ganx-<br />
orcielda, aramed samomavlo xedvac. samitze kidev<br />
erTxel gaesva xazi imas, rom fexburTi ar aris<br />
romelime klubis an nakrebis warmateba, fexburTis<br />
warmateba CarTuli adamianebis ricxviT gan-<br />
isazRvreba. Cven am mimarTulebiT vmuSaobT,<br />
rogorc iciT, 2016 wels 7000-iT gaizarda registrirebul<br />
fexburTelTa raodenoba da grZelvadiani<br />
proeqtebis saSualebiT es ricxvi wlidan wlam-<br />
de kidev ufro gaizrdeba~, _ ganacxada mujirma.<br />
Semtevebze metad, Tavi mekareebma<br />
gamoiCines.<br />
nulovani frisken midioda saqme<br />
`mixeil mesxis~ mTavar arenazec,<br />
Tumca msajis mier damatebul<br />
droSi `saburTalos~ 18 wlis naxevarmcvelma<br />
giorgi koxreiZem, romelic<br />
Secvlaze ramdenime wuTis<br />
Sesuli iyo, quTaislebs Sin qulis<br />
waRebis saSualeba ar misca.<br />
meore turi 11 marts<br />
gaimarTeba da Semdeg<br />
matCebs vixilavT:<br />
lokomotivi – dinamo Tb.<br />
dila – dinamo Tb.<br />
samtredia – Cixura<br />
kolxeTi – saburTalo<br />
Suqura – torpedo<br />
turis centraluri Sexvedra,<br />
ra Tqma unda, `samtredia~-`Cixuraa~.<br />
samtrediaSi erTmaneTis pirispir<br />
saqarTvelos Cempioni da<br />
vice-Cempioni wardgebian.<br />
bolos, isic unda aRvniSnoT,<br />
rom Cempionati uwindelze ukeTaa<br />
`SefuTuli~. gadaicema absoluturad<br />
yvela matCis pirdapiri telereportaJi<br />
(nawili televiziiT,<br />
nawilic internetiT). Cempionats<br />
aqvs sakuTari vebgverdi, logo da<br />
himni. gaumjobesebulia gundebis<br />
ekipireba. sasiamovnoa, rom fexburTelebs<br />
maisurebze gvarebi qarTuli<br />
SriftiT aweriaT.<br />
fexburTi. saqarTvelos<br />
Cempionati. erovnuli liga.<br />
I turi<br />
samtredia-Suqura 1:1<br />
golebi: 1:0 raJamaSvili (19), 1:1<br />
sabaZe (42)<br />
dinamo Tb. – kolxeTi 1:0<br />
goli: 1:0 arabuli (26)<br />
lokomotivi – dinamo Tb. 2:1<br />
golebi: 0:1 T. Sonia (10), 1:1 sixaruliZe<br />
(32), 2:1 sixaruliZe (43)<br />
Cixura – dila 0:0<br />
saburTalo – torpedo 1:0<br />
goli: 1:0 koxreiZe (90)<br />
faCulias<br />
10 qula<br />
zedized ori marcxis Semdeg amerikis nacionalur sakalaTbur-<br />
To asociaciaSi gamarjveba izeima zaza faCulias `golden streit<br />
uoriorzma~. zaza da misi Tanagundelebi niu iorkSi ‘niqss~ estum-<br />
rnen da 112:105 gaimarjves, riTic regularuli sezonis lideroba<br />
gaimyares.<br />
faCuliam, matCi, tradiciulad, sastarto xuTeulSi daiwyo da<br />
moedanze 18 wuTi gaatara. 10 qula, 2 moxsna, TiTo pasi, CaWra da<br />
dafareba – aseTia saqarTvelos nakrebis kapitnis monagari.<br />
`golden steitis~ aqtivSi ki 51 gamarjvebaa (11 marcxis win) da<br />
uaxloes mdevar `san antonios~ sami gamarjvebiT uswrebs.<br />
gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />
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afiSa<br />
dampluri TamaSebi<br />
1.sim-<br />
ptomebis<br />
erTo-<br />
blioba<br />
2.ideol-<br />
ogiuri<br />
mimar-<br />
Tuleba<br />
afiSa<br />
X - adamianebi: logani<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 4 14:45 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 4 17:15 11-12 l.<br />
darbazi 4 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 4 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 3 14:15 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 3 16:45 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 4 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 3 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 2 14:00 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 4 17:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 4 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 5 22:35 13-14 l.<br />
1 aSS dolari<br />
2.4604<br />
1 evro<br />
2.6048<br />
1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />
3.0160<br />
1 Sveicaruli franki<br />
2.4356<br />
100 rusuli rubli<br />
4.2363<br />
wina nomris<br />
skanvordis pasuxebi:<br />
pirveli suraTi - kostantine gamsaxur-<br />
dias nawarmoebi - dionisos Rimili;<br />
meore suraTi - kostantine gamsaxurdi-<br />
as nawarmoebi - daviT aRmaSenebeli; 1.<br />
gvirila; 2. iponi; 3. abeli; 4. boni; 5.<br />
poni; 6. mSenebeli; 7. aqsesuari; 8. rema;<br />
9. Sturmani; 10. astronomia; 11. monar-<br />
qia; 12. dingo; 13. bingo; 14. kentavri;<br />
15. ekonomia; 16. oxranka; 17. markesi; 18.<br />
armia; 19. pastorali; 20. renuari; 21.<br />
nagani; 22. uari; 23. sos; 24. tiri; 25.<br />
ari; 26. morali; 27. mavri; 28. igrika; 29.<br />
evrika; 30. lirika; 31. rubrika; 32.<br />
afrika; 33. reali; 34. spirti; 35. ioli;<br />
36. xili; 37. raundi; 38. karbidi.<br />
12.mar-<br />
kebis<br />
Semgr-<br />
ovebeli<br />
15. siko<br />
doliZis<br />
filmi<br />
19.raime<br />
gadasax-<br />
adis<br />
fasi<br />
23.marcv-<br />
leuli<br />
kul-<br />
tura<br />
26.mdinare<br />
samx.<br />
ameri-<br />
kaSi<br />
32.erTxm.<br />
vokal.<br />
nawar-<br />
moebi<br />
34.iupi-<br />
teris<br />
Tanamg-<br />
zavri<br />
36.<br />
para-<br />
ziti<br />
mweri<br />
10.<br />
grama-<br />
tikuli<br />
kavSiri<br />
30.Se-<br />
qspiris<br />
perso-<br />
naJi<br />
3. daisi,<br />
Ramis<br />
gasayari<br />
6.oTx-<br />
Tavis<br />
(saxarebis)<br />
avtori<br />
8.usaxe-<br />
loebo<br />
grZeli<br />
wamosasx.<br />
17.isto-<br />
18.<br />
riuli<br />
qveyana<br />
pirebis<br />
aziaSi<br />
Seswavla<br />
21.<br />
aqtiuri<br />
vulkani<br />
Cr.amerikaSi<br />
16.umaR.<br />
kvalif.<br />
far-<br />
macevti<br />
24.eleqtr.<br />
Zabvis<br />
zomis<br />
erTeuli<br />
35.<br />
aero-<br />
porti<br />
parizSi<br />
31.<br />
germ-<br />
aneli<br />
mwerali<br />
33.<br />
qalaqi<br />
inglisSi<br />
37.danaS.<br />
dajguf.<br />
ita-<br />
liaSi<br />
28.<br />
verdis<br />
opera<br />
4.<br />
kanadis<br />
deda-<br />
qalaqi<br />
7.<br />
klimati<br />
11.mon-<br />
Rol.<br />
fulis<br />
erTeuli<br />
13. rZis<br />
nawarmi<br />
20.<br />
sofeli<br />
goris<br />
r-nSi<br />
22.qar-<br />
Tuli<br />
fulis<br />
erTeuli<br />
25.poli-<br />
tikuri<br />
gaer-<br />
Tianeba<br />
27.<br />
bambukis<br />
daTvi<br />
29.<br />
igivea,<br />
rac<br />
ijara<br />
5.Seiar-<br />
aRebuli<br />
kon-<br />
fliqti<br />
9. rusi<br />
momR-<br />
erali<br />
qali<br />
14. aSS-s<br />
kino<br />
akademiis<br />
jildo<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 3 RUS 16:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 2 13:00 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 7 ENG 14:00 9-10 l.<br />
IMAX RUS 15:15 19 l.<br />
darbazi 2 16:15 10-11 l.<br />
IMAX RUS 19:00 19 l.<br />
darbazi 8 ENG 19:00 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 2 RUS 19:25 13-14 l.<br />
IMAX ENG 21:45 19 l.<br />
darbazi 2 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 2 15:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 2 17:45 12-13 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:05 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 2 ENG 21:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 RUS 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 3 11:45 8-9 l.<br />
darbazi 5 14:10 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 5 17:10 11-12 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
mTvaris Suqi<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 2 ENG 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 7 ENG 20:00 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 6 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
ormocdaaTi elferiT<br />
muqi<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 2 RUS 16:15 10-11 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 5 16:15 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 6 19:10 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 4 14:45 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 3 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 2 16:30 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 4 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
amindi<br />
samSabaTi<br />
oTxSabaTi<br />
xuTSabaTi<br />
paraskevi<br />
SabaTi<br />
kvira<br />
orSabaTi<br />
Tbilisi<br />
16-17 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
15-17 0<br />
16-20 0<br />
17-18 0<br />
18-19 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
quTaisi<br />
20-23 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
19-21 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
20-22 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
15-17 0<br />
baTumi<br />
15-18 0<br />
16-20 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
18-22 0<br />
19-23 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
zugdidi<br />
20-22 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
22-24 0<br />
23-24 0<br />
22-23 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
16-20 0<br />
gori<br />
14-16 0<br />
13-17 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
15-17 0<br />
16-18 0<br />
11-12 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
Telavi<br />
13-16 0<br />
11-14 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
15-18 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
13-16 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
foTi<br />
20-22 0<br />
21-24 0<br />
20-23 0<br />
21-22 0<br />
20-23 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
14-15 0<br />
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xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia<br />
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redaqciis Sexedulebas.<br />
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redaqtori nana TvalabeiSvili (592 73 73 90)<br />
batiaSvili Tamar 593 61 74 15<br />
stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe;<br />
rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06<br />
redaqciis misamarTi:<br />
mamulaSvili gela 599 45 50 26<br />
Tbilisi, gudauris N3,<br />
berulava laSa 599 89 07 42<br />
pirveli sarTuli, bina 4;<br />
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tel.: 294 69 77;<br />
mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55<br />
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janezaSvili levan 593 18 77 10<br />
gavrcelebis samsaxuri<br />
vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89<br />
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