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Tbilisis meriis gamwvanebis<br />
saqalaqo samsaxuris xelmZRvanelis, goga wereTlis gancxa-<br />
debiT: „mewyris saSiSroeba ar aris, magram momaval kviraSi,<br />
albaT, specialistebis rekomendaciebs miviRebT, SeviswavliT<br />
da Sesabamisad gadavwyvetT, Tu ra SeiZleba ganxorcieldes<br />
aRniSnul teritoriaze da ra Semdgomi nabijebi SeiZleba<br />
gadaidgas. mTawmindis ferdobze a. w. 8 agvistos gaCenili xan-<br />
Zris Sedegad, pirveladi daTvalierebiT, 200-mde xe aris dam-<br />
wvari, balaxi da buCqebi. xeebs Soris ramdenime gamxmaric iyo.<br />
gamwvanebis kuTxiT RonisZiebebs mas Semdeg davgegmavT, rac<br />
rekomendaciebs miviRebT. momaval kviraSi specialistebTan<br />
am sakiTxze kidev erTi Sexvedra gveqneba”.<br />
„qronika+~ arasamTavrobo<br />
organizacia „mwvane alterna-<br />
tivis” xelmZRvanels, irakli<br />
maWaraSvils esaubreba:<br />
_ mTawmindaze momxdari xan-<br />
Zris Sedegebis Sefaseba gami-<br />
Wirdeba, radgan zustad ar vici,<br />
ra farTobi, mcenareebi da a. S.<br />
daiwva. mniSvneloba aqvs imas, Tu<br />
ra xe aris damwvari, ra zomis, ra<br />
saxeobis, ra daqanebazea es yvelaferi.<br />
samwuxarod, am wuTSi<br />
amaze pasuxi ar maqvs.<br />
_ saerTod, dedaqalaqis gamwvanebul<br />
ferdobebze ra mdgo-<br />
mareoba da gamowvevebia?<br />
_ es ferdobebi sabWoTa periodSi<br />
gaSenda. manamde, XIX saukuneSi<br />
(gansakuTrebiT XX-is dasawyisSi)<br />
ferdobebi bunebrivi<br />
mcenareulobebisgan mTlianad<br />
gaiCexa. es imitom, rom TbilisSi<br />
mcire mrewveloba arsebobda: mWedlebs,<br />
oqromWedlebs naxSiri<br />
sWirdebodaT. aseve, garkveulwilad,<br />
mosaxleobac iyenebda.<br />
ase rom, faqtobrivad, bunebrivi<br />
mcenareuloba mTlianad<br />
gaiCexa. aman is Sedegebi gamoiwvia,<br />
rom TbilisSi ferdobebidan<br />
wvima niaRvrad modioda da<br />
seriozul problemebs qmnida. pirvel<br />
rigSi, am Rvarcofebis, niaRvrebis<br />
SesaCereblad, sabWoTa<br />
periodSi, xeebis gaSeneba daiwyes.<br />
ferdobebze xeebis gaCexis gamo<br />
niaRvrebi iq arsebul niadagis<br />
fenas saerTod recxs da mere<br />
iq mcenareebis gaxareba Znelia,<br />
amitom iq niadagi SehqondaT, kldeebs<br />
afeTqebdnen kidec da ase<br />
rgavdnen xeebs.<br />
ZiriTadad, dargulia Savi fi-<br />
Wvi, romelic adgilobrivi saxeoba<br />
ar aris. rogorc wesi, aseTi<br />
araadgilobrivi saxeobebis dargva<br />
miuRebelia, radgan mas didi<br />
dro ar uweria. am Sav fiWvs Tavisi<br />
dro gauvida da xmobis periodi<br />
daiwyo.<br />
problema isic aris, rom Tavidan<br />
es xeebi Zalian axlo-axlos<br />
dairgo da mere yovelwliurad<br />
gamoxSirva da Sesabamisi movla<br />
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sWirdeboda, rac Cvens pirobeb-<br />
Si ar ganxorcielebula. amas sabWoTa<br />
periodSic ar akeTebdnen<br />
da axla, _ miT umetes.<br />
amitom es xeebi, umeteswilad,<br />
gadamxmaria, didi raodenoba dazianebulia,<br />
moWras da gatanas sa-<br />
Wiroebs. ki batono, gamxmari xeebis<br />
raRac raodenoba gamwvanebis samsaxurma<br />
gaitana, magram es arasakmarisi<br />
moculobis samuSaoa.<br />
am dros gamxmari xeebi adgilze<br />
Zalian xanZarsaSiS viTarebas<br />
qmnis da momavalSic SeiZleba<br />
es xanZrebi gaCndes. amitom dauyovnebliv<br />
saWiroa (da amas xSirad<br />
veubnebiT meriis gamwvanebis<br />
samsaxurs), rom meriam miiRos<br />
sagangebo RonisZiebebi, _ rac<br />
SeiZleba mokle droSi moiWras<br />
es fiWvebi da gaitanon teritoriidan.<br />
mis adgilze unda dairgos<br />
sxva foTlovani saxeobebi, aseve<br />
bunebriv aRdgena-ganaxlebas<br />
maqsimalurad unda Seewyos xeli.<br />
realurad, es ar keTdeba. Tvi-<br />
Tonac aRiareben, rom am saqmis-<br />
Tvis SeiZleba jaris nawilebis<br />
gamoyeneba iyos saWiro, imdenad<br />
masStaburi saqmianoba aris Castarebeli.<br />
Tbilisis meria jars<br />
ver gamoiyenebs, am gadawyvetilebas<br />
umaRlesi mTavarsardali<br />
sWirdeba.<br />
mokled, aseTi viTarebisTvis<br />
kanonmdebloba ambobs, rom unda<br />
gamocxaddes sagangebo viTareba.<br />
amis gamocxadeba, ratomRac, ar<br />
undaT. ager cecxlis Caqrobis<br />
drosac Sesabamisi nabijebis<br />
gadadgma ar surT. verc asabuTeben,<br />
Tu ratom ar akeTeben amas.<br />
gveubnebian, _ fuli ar gvaqvs da<br />
xalxic ar gvyofniso.<br />
_ maSin, am SemTxvevaSi, gamoacxadeT<br />
sagangebo viTareba da<br />
samxedro Zalebi gamoiyeneT-meTqi.<br />
amazec pasuxi ar aqvT.<br />
_ anu sagangebo mdgomareobis<br />
gamocxadeba da jaris gamoyene-<br />
ba gamxmari xeebis gamoxSirv-<br />
isTvis aucilebelia?<br />
irakli maWaraSvili:<br />
`gamxmari xeebi<br />
momavalSic<br />
xanZarsaSiS<br />
viTarebas<br />
qmnis~<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, es xeebi unda<br />
moiWras da egreve gamoitanon,<br />
Torem adgilze Zalian xanZarsa-<br />
SiSi viTarebaa. am realobas Tvali<br />
unda gavusworoT.<br />
_ kustbis ferdobze amisTvis<br />
garkveuli samuSaoebi Catarda...<br />
_ rasakvirvelia, es sakmarisi<br />
ar aris da amas TviTonve aRiareben.<br />
rogorc vici, aRniSnul<br />
procesSi, daaxloebiT, 70 aTasamde<br />
xe gamoitanes, magram es mcire<br />
procentia imisa, rac realurad<br />
dazianebulia. Tqven rom kojrisken,<br />
wyneTisken waxvideT, sul<br />
aseTi viTareba SegxvdebaT.<br />
zogadad, yvelgan aseTi tendencia<br />
mimdinareobs da klimatis<br />
cvlilebasTan adaptaciis RonisZiebebi<br />
tardeba. am gzaze erTerTi<br />
RonisZieba is aris, rom<br />
xelovnuri wiwvovanebi nel-nela<br />
foTlovani tyiT unda Caanacvlon,<br />
radgan foTlovani tye,<br />
jer erTi, xanZrisadmi gamZlea<br />
da, meorec, foTlovani xe ufro<br />
met Jangbads gamoyofs da met<br />
naxSirorJangs STanTqavs.<br />
_ konkretulad, mTawmindaze<br />
200-mde xis ganadgureba adg-<br />
ilze rame mewyrul saSiSroebas<br />
xom ar gamoiwvevs?<br />
_ adgilze unaxavad aseTi<br />
daskvnis keTeba SeuZlebelia.<br />
gaaCnia, rogor iyo es xeebi erT-<br />
`visac aqamde araferi gaukeTebia, is amis<br />
Semdegac sasikeTos arafers gaakeTebs.<br />
magaliTad, kalaZe, - kaci vice-premieri iyo da<br />
araferi gaukeTebia am mimarTulebiT da axal<br />
dapirebebs gvaZlevs, rasac, bunebrivia, ar<br />
gaakeTebs. aseve, `nacionaluri moZraobis~<br />
warmomadgenlebma Tavi imiT isaxeles, rom tye<br />
da gamwvaneba ar datoves, axla ki programaSi<br />
aqvT es gamwvaneba. amitom maTi imedic ar maqvs~<br />
maneTTan ganlagebuli, ramdenad<br />
daqanebuli ferdobia, im adgilze<br />
warmoiSoba Tu ara wylis<br />
nakadebi wvimis dros da a.S.<br />
_ qalaqis meria aseTi tipis<br />
gamowvevebze ramdenad adekva-<br />
tur reagirebas axdens, Tqveni<br />
dakvirveba rogoria?<br />
_ adekvaturi reagireba rom<br />
momxdariyo, imas gaakeTebdnen,<br />
razec ukve mogaxseneT. anu sagangebo<br />
viTarebas gamoacxadebdnen,<br />
an saWiro Tanxebi gamoiZebneboda<br />
problemebis gadasawyvetad.<br />
amis magivrad Tbilisis meria Tanxebs<br />
raRac sisuleleSi xarjavs.<br />
magaliTad, gamwvanebis egidiT<br />
Tanxa ixarjeba iseTi skverebis<br />
Tavidan gakeTebaSi, romlebic<br />
isedac kargi skverebia. daaxloebiT,<br />
150 aTasi lari daixarja<br />
vaJa-fSavelaze, ovalur skverze,<br />
romelic isedac erT-erTi yvelaze<br />
lamazi skveri iyo Tbilis-<br />
Si. iq Zalian bevri vardis buCqi<br />
iyo. adgnen, moTxares es vardis<br />
buCqebi da raRac Zvirfasi zeTisxilis<br />
xeebi darges, isic mcire<br />
raodenobiT. es 150 aTasi lari<br />
dajda da axla iquroba, lamis,<br />
sasaflaos daemsgavsa.<br />
rac mTavaria, amiT arc erTi<br />
kvadratuli metri gamwvanebas ar<br />
Sematebia. Tan teritoria iseT<br />
adgilasaa, sadac adamiani fexiT<br />
ver midis. anu mas rekreaciuli<br />
daniSnuleba ar gaaCnia, garSemo<br />
Zalian didi moZraobaa, gadasavlelic<br />
ar aqvs.<br />
igive sisuleleSi daixarja<br />
fuli saakaZis Zeglis garSemo<br />
rom skveria. anu iq adamiani ar<br />
dadis, adgils rekreaciuli Rirebuleba<br />
ar gaaCnia... mere ityvian,<br />
rom fuli aRar gvyofniso.<br />
Tu aseT raRacebSi daxarjav, bunebrivia,<br />
ar geyofa.<br />
gamwvanebaze aradekvatur<br />
RonisZiebebs atareben.<br />
_ ra swori nabijebi unda ga-<br />
daidgas im fonze, roca viciT,<br />
rom dedaqalaqSi gamwvanebis<br />
mxriv katastrofuli mdgomar-<br />
eoba gvaqvs?<br />
_ unda aikrZalos nebismieri<br />
mSenebloba an msgavsi qmedeba,<br />
romelic mwvane nargavebs Seamcirebs.<br />
Sewydes yovelgvari ase-<br />
Ti farTobis privatizeba (nebismieri<br />
pirobiT) gamwvanebul teritoriaze,<br />
radgan amas moyveba<br />
mxolod erTaderTi Sedegi _<br />
gaCexva da iq raRacebis gaSeneba.<br />
dawesdes limitebi, Tu kerZo<br />
teritoriazec ramdenis Seneba<br />
SeeZleba adamians. magaliTad, kerZo<br />
teritoriaze adamians ar<br />
unda SeeZlos, rom es sivrce<br />
mTlianad nagebobebad gadaaq-<br />
cios. maqsimalurad unda Seiz-<br />
Rudos parkebis mSeneblobis<br />
dros miwis dafarva mopirkeTebiT<br />
(marmarilo da a. S). es fulis<br />
keTebis meti araferia da<br />
aravis sWirdeba marmariloTi da<br />
granitiT dafaruli parkebi.<br />
es Tanxebi unda moxmardes<br />
arsebuli dazianebuli xeebis gajansaRebas,<br />
maT axlebiT Canacvlebas<br />
da sadac jer kidev Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia, axali sarekreacio<br />
zonebi unda Seiqmnas.<br />
_ kustbis ferdobs vakis<br />
parks uerTeben...<br />
_ esec xalxis motyuebaa, radgan<br />
araferi SeuerTdeba. martivad<br />
SegiZliaT SexedoT teritorias,<br />
romelzec saubaria, ramdeni<br />
iyo vakis parki, axla ramdeni<br />
aris darCenili da a. S.<br />
es, ubralod, xalxis motyueba<br />
da sinamdvileSi araferi mniSvnelovani<br />
gamwvanebuli teritoria<br />
ar emateba. amas is xalxi acxadebs,<br />
visac Tavisive mier gakeTebul<br />
rukaSi arc Cauxedavs.<br />
_ gulisxmobT, rom es fer-<br />
`xelovnuri wiwvovanebi nel-nela foTlovani<br />
tyiT unda Caanacvlon, radgan foTlovani tye,<br />
jer erTi, xanZrisadmi gamZlea da, meorec,<br />
foTlovani xe ufro met Jangbads gamoyofs da<br />
met naxSirorJangs STanTqavs~<br />
dobi isedac ekuTvnoda aRiS-<br />
nul teritorias?<br />
_ odesRac ekuTvnoda da dRes<br />
imis Zalian mcire nawilze midis<br />
saubari. Tan kustbamde ki ara, am<br />
sivrceSi Zalian mcire teritoria<br />
xvdeba, amitom aris es gancxadeba<br />
sicrue.<br />
rogorc Cans, raRac teritoriis<br />
kidev viRac kerZo mesakuTreebze<br />
gacemas apireben da<br />
axla piarisTvis amboben, rom vi-<br />
Tom mcire nawils sarekreacio<br />
zonas vaZlevTo. realoba aseTia<br />
da ajobebs, am mxriv tyuilebs<br />
Tavi daanebon.<br />
_ adgilobriv arCevnebze<br />
vinmes xom ar uWerT mxars?<br />
_ jerjerobiT, aranairi prioriteti<br />
ar gvaqvs adgilobriv<br />
arCevnebTan dakavSrebiT, magram<br />
zustad vici, rom visac aqamde<br />
araferi gaukeTebia, is amis Semdegac<br />
sasikeTos arafers gaakeTebs.<br />
magaliTad, kalaZe, _ kaci<br />
vice-premieri iyo da araferi<br />
gaukeTebia am mimarTulebiT da<br />
axal dapirebebs gvaZlevs, rasac,<br />
bunebrivia, ar gaakeTebs.<br />
aseve, „nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />
warmomadgenlebma Tavi imiT<br />
isaxeles, rom tye da gamwvaneba<br />
ar datoves, axla ki programaSi<br />
aqvT es gamwvaneba. amitom maTi<br />
imedic ar maqvs.<br />
32 N30 (207) 15.08-21.08.2017 w.
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