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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
Jurnalisturi<br />
gamoZieba<br />
gv. 6<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N7 7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03<br />
03.201<br />
.2018 fasi 2 lari<br />
gv. 26<br />
ledi tukvaZe: `prokuratura,<br />
sasamarTlo da maRali<br />
politikuri Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi dea goSxeTelianis<br />
kaprizebis mixedviT moqmedeben~<br />
`mersedesis~<br />
centri<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
nika rurua:<br />
`Tavdacvis<br />
saukeTeso<br />
meTodi<br />
ruseTisTvis<br />
principuli da<br />
mtkice<br />
winaaRmdegobis<br />
gawevaa~<br />
14<br />
irakli SixiaSvilma<br />
13 468 veteranis<br />
piradi monacemebi<br />
rusul<br />
specsamsaxurebs<br />
gadasca<br />
gv. 2<br />
nikoloz vaSakiZe:<br />
`ruseTsaqarTvelos<br />
omi<br />
samSvidobo<br />
xelSekrulebiT<br />
ar dasrulebula~<br />
16<br />
auditis skandaluri daskvna<br />
`mSvidoba omze<br />
metia~, anu ra<br />
SegvZlebia... gv. 4<br />
mamuka areSiZe:<br />
`tatunaSvils<br />
suli amohxades,<br />
radgan maT<br />
sasargeblod<br />
araferi Tqva~<br />
8<br />
ese ambavi meriis,<br />
opoziciisa da<br />
miwisqveSa<br />
quTaisis Sesaxeb<br />
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eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
Tveze meti gavida, rac veteranTa<br />
saxelmwifo samsaxuris ufrosma „qronika+~-is oficial-<br />
uri werili miiRo, romelSic saubari iyo gazeTis mTavari<br />
redaqtoris mimarT veteranTa saxelmwifo samsaxuris Tanam-<br />
Sromlebis mier ganxorcielebul muqaraze, aseve, socialur<br />
qsel feisbuqiT Cemi da Cemi ojaxis wevrebis mimarT Seu-<br />
racxmyofeli da cilismwamebluri cnobebis gavrcelebaze.<br />
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gancxadebaSi, romelic Tanamdebobidan<br />
gadadgomis Semdeg<br />
irakli SixiaSvilma gaavrcela.<br />
rogor zrunavdnen 24 saaTis<br />
ganmavlobaSi veteranebze, amaze<br />
auditis daskvna ufro kargad<br />
gascems pasuxs.<br />
mravalSvilianebi da maTi<br />
ojaxis wevrebi;<br />
martoxelebi;<br />
is veteranebi da maTi ojaxis<br />
wevrebi, romlebic materialuri<br />
mdgomareobis gamo<br />
saWiroebdnen daxmarebas.<br />
laqis mkurnaloba esTetikuri,<br />
rekonstruqciuli da plastikuri<br />
qirurgiis klinika „karaps<br />
medlainSi”. pacints gaewia<br />
2.6 aTasi laris Rirebulebis<br />
ginekologiuri mkurnaloba,<br />
romelic dasaqmebuli iyo<br />
irakli SixiaSvilma<br />
13 468 veteranis<br />
piradi monacemebi<br />
rusul<br />
specsamsaxurebs<br />
gadasca<br />
miuxedavad administraciis<br />
ufrosis dapirebisa, rom samsaxuris<br />
ufrosis brZanebiT dawyebulia<br />
samsaxurebrivi mokvleva<br />
da pasuxsac uaxloes<br />
dReebSi miviRebdiT, jerjerobiT,<br />
veteranTa saxelmwifo samsaxuris<br />
mxridan reagirebaze<br />
araferi viciT. imedia, b-ni vladimer<br />
imnaZe acnobierebs, ras<br />
niSnavs biujetidan dafinansebuli<br />
pirebis mier damoukidebeli<br />
gazeTis redaqtoris mimarT<br />
ganxorcielebuli muqara.<br />
sanam pasuxs velodebiT, saxelmwifo<br />
auditis mier 2015 wlis<br />
1-li ianvridan 2016 wlis 1-l<br />
aprilamde samsaxuris finansuri<br />
Semowmebis dokuments gave-<br />
cnobiT.<br />
veteranTa saxelmwifo samsaxuris<br />
ufrosma irakli SixiaSvilma<br />
Tanamdeboba 2016<br />
wlis 29 marts datova.<br />
„minda gacnoboT, rom dReidan<br />
me vtoveb Tanamdebobas.<br />
CemTvis mniSvnelovani iyo is<br />
saqme, rasac aqamde vemsaxurebodi,<br />
mniSvnelovani iyvnen is<br />
adamianebi, romelTa keTildReobazec<br />
24 saaTi vzrunavdi.<br />
samsaxurma ganaxorciela uamravi<br />
proeqti da igegmeboda sasicocxlo<br />
mniSvnelobis wamowyebebi,<br />
amitom minda, warmateba<br />
vusurvo im adamians, vinc daikavebs<br />
Cems adgils da am saqmes<br />
gaagrZelebs”, _ naTqvami iyo<br />
auditis skandaluri daskvna<br />
daviwyoT, samedicino<br />
momsaxurebiT:<br />
samsaxuris mier warmoebuli<br />
samedicino momsaxurebis programa<br />
warmoadgenda sayovel-<br />
Tao jandacvis saxelmwifo<br />
programis damatebiT nawils<br />
da moicavda im servisebis<br />
mkurnalobis Tanadafinansebas,<br />
romelsac ar faravda saxelmwifo<br />
da municipaluri programebi.<br />
am wesis Tanaxmad ganisaz-<br />
Rvra veteran beneficiarTa Semdegi<br />
kategoriebi:<br />
socialurad daucvelebi da<br />
maTi ojaxis wevrebi;<br />
SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis<br />
mqone pirebi da maTi ojaxis<br />
wevrebi;<br />
aRniSnul brZanebaSi wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi Setanilia 6 cvlileba,<br />
maT Soris, gauqmebulia<br />
muxli, romelic moiTxovda<br />
beneficiarebis mier ssip Semosavlebis<br />
samsaxuridan wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi miRebuli Semosavlebis<br />
Sesaxeb cnobis wardgenas,<br />
rac SesaZlebels xdida,<br />
komisias warmodgena Seqmnoda<br />
ojaxis materialuri mdgomareobis<br />
Sesaxeb. unda aRiniSnos,<br />
rom aseTi saxis cvlilebebis<br />
miRebam gamoiwvia kontrolis<br />
meqanizmebis Sesusteba da warmoSva<br />
komisiis mier araobieqturi<br />
gadawyvetilebebis miRebis<br />
riski. mag.: „2015 wlis 17<br />
marts, #1 oqmis safuZvelze,<br />
srulad dafinansebulia moqa-<br />
Tavdacvis saministroSi buRalter-aRmricxvelis<br />
Tanamdebobaze<br />
da ver iqna warmodgenili<br />
mtkicebuleba, Tu romel<br />
kategorias ganekuTvneba beneficiari”,<br />
_ naTqvamia saxelmwifo<br />
auditis daskvnaSi.<br />
19 beneficiarze dafinansebulia<br />
ZviradRirebuli stomatologiuri<br />
momsaxureba (metalokeramika,<br />
motitanebuli<br />
gvirgvinis Casma da sxv.), romelic<br />
ganekuTvneba kosmetikuri<br />
mizniT Catarebul mkurnalobas,<br />
jamurad, 21,1 aTasi<br />
laris odenobiT.<br />
auditis periodSi 8 beneficiarisTvis<br />
anazRaurebulia<br />
sazRvargareT mkurnalobis<br />
Rirebuleba, ramac jamurad<br />
2 N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.
Seadgina 66,1 aTasi lari.<br />
auditis daskvnis mixedviT,<br />
dafinansebulia medikamentebi<br />
veteranebisTvis, zogierT Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi dafinansebulia, daaxloebiT,<br />
erTi wlis samyofi<br />
medikamentebi, aris SemTxvevebi,<br />
rodesac dafinansebulia<br />
erTi da igive moqmedebis preparati<br />
iseTi raodenobiT, rac<br />
sakmarisi iqneboda erTi adamianisTvis<br />
10 wlis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
Sps „lanceti”<br />
veteranTa saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurs 2016 wlis 28 ianvars<br />
gaformebuli aqvs urTierT-<br />
TanamSromlobis memorandumi<br />
samedicino centr Sps „lancetTan”,<br />
romelic iTvaliswinebda<br />
veteranebisTvis samedicino<br />
momsaxurebis gawevas SeRava-<br />
Tian fasebSi.<br />
veteranebisTvis samedicino<br />
momsaxurebis Seuferxeblad<br />
miwodebis mizniT centris sistemaSi<br />
unda Seqmniliyo akademikos<br />
v. sanikiZis saxelobis veteranTa<br />
momsaxurebis specialuri<br />
struqturuli erTeuli<br />
danayofi, romelic eqskluziurad<br />
uzrunvelyofda<br />
veteranTaTvis samedicino momsaxurebis<br />
gawevas.<br />
2016 wlis TebervalSi veteranis<br />
statusiT mosargeble<br />
354 pacientisTvis gaweulia<br />
samedicino momsaxureba TanxiT<br />
67,2 aTasi lari, maT Soris, ambulatoriuli<br />
mkurnaloba Cautarda<br />
333 pacients TanxiT<br />
48,9 aTasi lari da stacionaruli<br />
mkurnaloba 21 pacients<br />
18,3 aTasi lariT.<br />
Sps „lanceti” jandacvis<br />
saxelmwifo programis farglebSi<br />
ambulatoruli momsaxurebis<br />
mimRebad ar iyo registrirebuli,<br />
Sesabamisad, biujetidan<br />
anazRaurebulia 48,9<br />
aTasi laris ambulatoriuli<br />
da gadaudebeli ambulatoriuli<br />
momsaxureba, romelsac<br />
srulad (100%) anazRaurebda<br />
sayovelTao jandacvis programa.<br />
2015 wlis ganmavlobaSi 37<br />
veteranisTvis dafinansebuli<br />
aqvT 42 erTeuli proTezis Rirebuleba,<br />
raSic daxarjulia<br />
425,7 aTasi lari. aRsaniSnavia,<br />
rom 2015 wels jandacvis saministro<br />
ssip socialuri momsaxurebis<br />
saagentos meSveobiT axorcielebda<br />
damxmare saSualebiT<br />
veteranebis uzrunvelyofas,<br />
romlis erT-erT komponents<br />
warmoadgenda proTezebis<br />
dafinanseba 100%-iT.<br />
3 beneficiarze anazRaurebulia,<br />
komisiis gadawyvetilebiT<br />
gansazRvrul dafinansebul<br />
moculobasTan SedarebiT, 29,6<br />
aTasi lariT meti Tanxa, rac,<br />
samsaxuris ganmartebiT, gamowveulia<br />
meqanikuri SecdomiT.<br />
Sps „jorjian<br />
for veteransi”<br />
2015 wlis 24 ivliss samsaxursa<br />
da Sps „jorjian for<br />
veteranss” Soris gaformebulia<br />
ormxrivi TanamSromlobis<br />
memorandumi. „jorjian for<br />
veteransi” warmoadgens „fortuna<br />
holdingis” Svilobil kompanias,<br />
romelsac xeli unda<br />
Seewyo veteranTa keTildReobisa<br />
da cxovrebis pirobebis<br />
gaumjobesebisTvis. am mizniT<br />
kompania valdebulebas iRebda,<br />
Seeqmna da emarTa eqskluziuri<br />
„veteranTa klubi”, moezida partniori<br />
kompaniebi da iseTi<br />
iuridiuli pirebi, romlebic<br />
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„veteranTa klubis” sxvadasxva<br />
aqtivobas daafinansebdnen.<br />
2016 wlis 1-l marts samsaxursa<br />
da Sps „jorjian for<br />
veteranss” Soris gaformebulia<br />
xelSekruleba, romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac samsaxurs etapobrivad,<br />
sami Tvis ganmavloba-<br />
Si, unda gadaeca kompaniisTvis<br />
im veteranTa personaluri monacemebi<br />
(saxeli, gvari, piradi<br />
nomeri, veteranis saidentifikacio<br />
kodi, registraciis<br />
misamarTi, faqtobrivi sacxovrebeli<br />
misamarTi da telefonis<br />
nomeri) maTTvis fasdaklebis<br />
talonebisa da specialuri<br />
(sasaCuqre, sakredito da<br />
sadebeto) baraTebis dasamzadeblad.<br />
kompania, Tavis mxriv,<br />
valdebulebas iRebda, usasyidlod<br />
uzrunveleyo veteranebisTvis<br />
fasdaklebis vebportalisa<br />
da specialuri baraTebis<br />
Seqmna da gadacema. amasTan,<br />
kompania valdebulebas<br />
iRebda, daecva da ar gadaeca<br />
sxva pirisTvis ssip veteranebis<br />
saqmeTa saxelmwifo samsaxuris<br />
veteranTa aRricxvis monacemTa<br />
bazaSi fizikur pirebze<br />
arsebuli informacia. personalur<br />
monacemTa dacvis Sesaxeb<br />
saqarTvelos kanonis mo-<br />
TxovnTa dacviT, samsaxursa da<br />
Sps „jorjian for veteranss”<br />
Soris 2016 wlis 9 marts gaformebuli<br />
miReba-Cabarebis aqtis<br />
Tanaxmad, Sps „jorjian<br />
for veteranss” gadaeca 13 463<br />
veteranis prsonaluri monacemebi<br />
(saxeli, gvari, piradi nomeri,<br />
veteranis saidentifikacio<br />
kodi, registraciis misamarTi,<br />
faqtobrivi sacxovreblis<br />
misamarTi, telefonis nomeri).<br />
samsaxuris ganmartebiT,<br />
personaluri monacemebi gadacemulia<br />
veteranTa TanxmobiT,<br />
Tumca monacemTa gadacemis Semdeg<br />
aqtivobebi ar dafiqsirebula.<br />
`personalur monacemTa dacvis Sesaxeb<br />
saqarTvelos kanonis moTxovnTa dacviT,<br />
samsaxursa da Sps `jorjian for veteranss~<br />
Soris 2016 wlis 9 marts gaformebuli<br />
xelSekrulebis Tanaxmad, Sps `jorjian for<br />
veteranss~ gadaeca 13 463 veteranis<br />
personaluri monacemebi (saxeli, gvari, piradi<br />
nomeri, veteranis saidentifikacio kodi,<br />
registraciis misamarTi, faqtobrivi<br />
sacxovreblis misamarTi, telefonis nomeri).<br />
samsaxuris ganmartebiT, personaluri<br />
monacemebi gadacemulia veteranTa TanxmobiT,<br />
Tumca monacemTa gadacemis Semdeg aqtivobebi<br />
ar dafiqsirebula~<br />
StatgareSe mosamsaxureebi:<br />
2015 wels veteranTa saqme-<br />
Ta saxelmwifo samsaxurSi 42<br />
StatgareSe mosamsaxure hyavdaT,<br />
2016 wels _ 47. maTze, Sesabamisi<br />
periodebis mixedviT,<br />
anazRaurebulia 241,1 aTasi<br />
lari, maT Soris, premia 35,0<br />
aTasi lari da 136,3 aTasi lari.<br />
StatgareSe momuSaveTa Tviuri<br />
anazRaureba meryeobda<br />
700-dan 1800 laris farglebSi.<br />
maTi dasaqmeba xdeboda ara<br />
droebiT, aramed xangrZlivi<br />
periodiT. maT mier Sesrulebuli<br />
samuSaos Sesaxeb angari-<br />
Si, moxsenebiTi baraTi an samuSaos<br />
Sesrulebis damadasturebeli<br />
sxva dokumentebi ar<br />
arsebobs. saaudito periodSi<br />
samsaxuris balansze ricxul<br />
avtomanqanebze sul daxarjulia<br />
79,3 aTasi laris 49 155<br />
litri sawvavi.<br />
maT Soris, samsaxuris xelmZRvanelisa<br />
da misi moadgilis<br />
mivlinebaSi yofnis dros orive<br />
samsaxurebrivi avtomanqana<br />
moixmarda sawvavs,<br />
samorigeo avtomobilebis<br />
gamoyofaze ki samsaxurma Sesabamisi<br />
dokumentacia auditis<br />
samsaxurs ver warudgina.<br />
saaudito periodSi veteran-<br />
Ta samsaxurs 167,4 aTasi laris<br />
aveji da avejis aqsesuarebi SeuZenia;<br />
kino da videomomsaxurebis<br />
Sesyidvaze gamoyofili<br />
iyo 72.0 aTasi lari; gamartivebul<br />
eleqtronul tenderSi<br />
59.9 aTasi lariT gamarjvebuli<br />
gamocxadda „kavkasiis kino<br />
servisi”. pretendents unda<br />
gadaeRo da warmoedgina dokumenturi<br />
filmi da erTi videorgoli,<br />
romlebic Seexeboda<br />
veteranebis, meore msoflio<br />
omis, afxazeTis, samaCablosa<br />
da 2008 wlis agvistos omis<br />
gmirobis istoriebs, rac moemsaxureboda<br />
patriotuli suliskveTebis<br />
gaRvivebas. msgavsi<br />
moTxovnebi Sps „kavkasiis konoserviss”<br />
ar warmoudgenia, satendero<br />
komisias mxolod filmebisa<br />
da videorgolebis Sinaarsi<br />
warudgines, satendero<br />
komisias ar mouxdenia pretendentis<br />
diskvalifikacia da<br />
2015 wlis 4 Tebervals Sps „kavkasiis<br />
kinoservisi” miwveulia<br />
xelSekrulebis gasaformeblad.<br />
2015 wlis ivnisSi gamocxadebul<br />
eleqtronul tenderSi<br />
gamarjvebulia ucxouri sawarmos<br />
filiali „konvent jorjia”,<br />
romelic daafuZna Sps<br />
„konventma”. SemsrulebelTan<br />
2015 wlis 31 ivliss gaformebuli<br />
xelSekrulebis Sesabamisad,<br />
samuSaoebis Cabarebis vadad<br />
gansazRvrulia 2016 wlis<br />
30 marti. warmodgenili sabanko<br />
garantia avizirebuli iyo<br />
„saqarTvelos bankis” mier, romelic<br />
veteranTa saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxurs 2015 wlis 18 seqtembris<br />
weriliT ganumartavda,<br />
rom avizirebadi bankis pasuxismgeblobas<br />
mxolod dokumenturi<br />
operaciebis avTenturobisa<br />
da namdvilobis dadgena<br />
warmoadgenda da ar gaaCnda<br />
finansuri pasuxismgebloba. amis<br />
miuxedavad, veteranTa samsaxurma<br />
2015 wlis 22 seqtembers<br />
„konvent jorjias” avansis saxiT<br />
gadauricxa 1 000.0 aTasi<br />
lari. erovnuli bankis Sesabamisi<br />
rekomendaciebi ar gaTvaliswinebula.<br />
imave wlis 30 noembers<br />
xelSekrulebaSi Setanili<br />
cvlilebiT xelSekrulebis<br />
Rirebuleba gazrdilia 209.7<br />
aTasi lariT da saxelSekrulebo<br />
Rirebuleba gansazRvrulia<br />
2 448.3 aTasi lariT, xolo samuSaoTa<br />
Cabarebis vada gagrZelebulia<br />
2016 wlis 11 ivlisamde,<br />
mogvianebiT ki _ 25 agvistomde.<br />
auditis daskvnis Tanaxmad,<br />
Sps „konvent jorjias” mier<br />
gagrZelebul vadebSic ver iqna<br />
uzrunvelyofili xelSekrulebiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebul samuSaoTa<br />
dasruleba, cxra etapad<br />
warmodgenili samuSaoebis faqtobrivma<br />
Rirebulebam 1.399,4<br />
aTasi lari Seadgina, xolo gadaxdam<br />
_ 1.762.7 aTasi lari. kompanias<br />
2016 wlis aprilis mere<br />
samuSaoebi saerTod ar uwarmoebia,<br />
klimaturi pirobebiT<br />
ki ziani adgeba ukve Sesrulebul<br />
samuSaoebs, rac, saboloo<br />
jamSi, niSnavs, rom Sesrulebul<br />
samuSaoebSi gadaxdili<br />
Tanxa wyalSia gadayrili.<br />
es aris faqtebis mxolod<br />
erTi nawili, romelic saxelmwifo<br />
auditis samsaxuris daskvnaSia<br />
warmodgenili. ucnobia,<br />
arsebul darRvevebze ra<br />
reagireba moaxdina saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxuris amJamindelma xelmZRvanelma<br />
vladimer imnaZem.<br />
„qronika+~ veteranebis saqmeTa<br />
saxelmwifo samsaxuris saqmianobas<br />
uaxloes nomrebSi miubrundeba.<br />
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gadiT aqciaze. Zalian mindoda,<br />
mniSvnelovania msgavsi Sekrebebi.<br />
am Temebze da, zogadad, protests,<br />
ZiriTadad, socialur qselSi<br />
gamovxatavT xolme. es, ra<br />
Tqma unda, yovelTvis kargia da<br />
saWirocaa, magram aris situaciebi,<br />
rodesac quCaSi dgoma aucilebelia<br />
da axla swored es dRea.<br />
yvela Cvengans sakuTari wili<br />
moraluri valdebuleba da pasuxismgebloba<br />
gvaqvs, gavaprotestoT<br />
okupacia. borotebis impe-<br />
Cveni teritoriebis moparvaze,<br />
Cveni Tanamemamuleebis xocvaze,<br />
maSin CavTvaloT, rom Cveni cxovreba<br />
dasrulebula. gansakuTrebiT<br />
maxarebs is, rom Cemi Taobis,<br />
Cemi Tanatolebis mier iyo<br />
es aqcia organizebuli. adamianebis,<br />
romlebic sruliad Sors<br />
dganan yovelgvari politikuri<br />
Tu sxva gavlenebisgan. dRes gansakuTrebulad<br />
amayi var imiT,<br />
rom amdeni adamiani dadga wvima-<br />
rebebis mier mokluli qarTveli<br />
jariskacis _ arCil tatunaSvilis<br />
mimarT solidarobisa da<br />
okupaciis winaaRmdeg protests<br />
gamoTqvamdnen. iyo dumili,<br />
sanTlebi, erTad dgoma da ara<br />
lozungebi!<br />
22 Tebervals e. w. samxreT<br />
oseTis de faqto respublikis<br />
ukanono formirebebma axalgor-<br />
Si saqarTvelos sami moqalaqe<br />
gaitaces, maTgan erT-erTi _<br />
arCil tatunaSvili ki mokles. es<br />
SemTxveva ar aris pirveli da er-<br />
TaderTi. swored es faqti edo<br />
safuZvlad aRniSnul aqcias,<br />
romlis mTavari ideiTac Tanamedrove<br />
sazogadoebas unda<br />
scodnoda, rom saqarTvelo aris<br />
erTiani da Tavs ar uxris ruse-<br />
Tis mxridan okupacias!<br />
aqciis organizatori zuka<br />
maxaraSvili ambobs, rom misi mizani,<br />
pirvel rigSi, arCil tatunaSvilis<br />
ojaxis mimarT sol-<br />
idarobis gamocxadeba iyo:<br />
„mindoda, rom ojaxis tkivili<br />
gagveziarebina. mgonia, swored<br />
mis ojaxs sWirdeboda Cveni<br />
is, rom gagveerTianebina mTeli<br />
sazogadoeba da erTad davmdgariyaviT.<br />
samwuxarod, bevri<br />
xalxi ar movida, magram is solidarobis<br />
aqti, rac kerZo biznesma<br />
gamoiCina, namdvilad misasalmebeli<br />
iyo. maT vTxove, rom<br />
CvenTan erTad mdgariyvnen da<br />
yvela damTanxmda, bolo ori<br />
dRis manZilze ki ukve TviTon<br />
gvierTdebodnen barebi, restornebi.<br />
am mxriv raRac axali<br />
es saqarTveloSic gagvekeTebina<br />
da mgoni, SevZeliT.<br />
sabolood, Cveni mizani iyo,<br />
rom dagvecva mSvidoba da Tavisufleba!<br />
yvelas unda enaxa,<br />
rom amisTvis vibrZviT, Tavs ar<br />
vuxriT okupacias da rom mSvidoba<br />
omze metia!”<br />
nikoloz gurini _ aqciis<br />
monawile, 21 wlis:<br />
„CemTvis, gansakuTrebulad<br />
rias (rogorc sabWoTa kavSirs,<br />
Tavis droze, aSS-s prezidentma<br />
reiganma uwoda) Cveni ganadgureba<br />
surs da amas aravin unda SeveguoT!<br />
xSirad gvxvdeba xolme skeptikosebis<br />
komentarebi, rom,<br />
TiTqos, azri ar aqvs okupaciis<br />
gaprotestebas da es aranair<br />
Sedegs ar moitans. arc erTi wamiT<br />
ar veTanxmebi am mosazrebas.<br />
Tu gavCumdiT da Tavi davxareT<br />
Si samSoblos sadarajoze. gansakuTrebuli<br />
madloba im kompaniebs,<br />
romlebic am iniciativas<br />
SemouerTdnen da solodaroba<br />
gamoucxades. CemTvis es iyo pasuxi<br />
imaze, rom rusul gavlenebsa<br />
da miznebs saqarTveloSi perspeqtiva<br />
arasdros eqneba! saqarTvelo<br />
ar gadauxvevs evropuli<br />
da evroatlantikuri kursidan<br />
da amas veranairi moRalate<br />
ver Secvlis. mniSvneloba ar<br />
`4 marts Tavisuflebis moedanze axalgazrdebi<br />
idgnen. ecvaT feradi tansacmeli, feradi<br />
hqondaT Tmac, xelSi eWiraT patara<br />
trafaretebi warweriT: `mSvidoba omze metia!~<br />
amindi iyo wvimiani. xalxi mainc iq idga.<br />
mivxvdi, rom es Taoba solidarobis Zalas<br />
grZnobda. iqidan karga xans aravin wasula.<br />
media uwyvetad muSaobda, zogi sanTels<br />
anTebda, zogi saubrobda, zogic, ubralod,<br />
erT adgilas idga da sakuTar pozicias<br />
mdumared gamoxatavda. rusulad erT<br />
sityvasac ver gaigebdiT! mobiluridan farnebs<br />
anaTebdnen. siyvarulisa da erTad dgomis<br />
surneli idga~<br />
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aqvs, vin iqneba es moRalate _<br />
saxalxlo artisti, akademikosmecnieri<br />
Tu politikosi. es<br />
qveyana am axalgazrdobisaa da es<br />
axalgazrdoba aucilblad gaimarjvebs<br />
yvelanairi borotebis<br />
winaaRmdeg!”<br />
natalia cagareli _ aqciis<br />
monawile:<br />
„aqciaSi monawileoba CemTvis<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania, radgan<br />
vfiqrob, rom samoqalaqo solidarobas<br />
didi Zala aqvs. msurda,<br />
solidaroba gamomecxadebina<br />
arCil tatunaSvilis ojaxisTvis,<br />
raTa egrZnoT, rom am tragediis<br />
winaSe marto ar arian da maTi<br />
tkivili yvela Cvenganis tkivlia.<br />
amavdroulad, aqciaze yofniT<br />
vaprotestebdi rusul okupacias.<br />
mindoda, Cemi iq dgomiT okupantisTvis<br />
gzavnili mimewodebina,<br />
rom Cven, Cveulebrivi moqalaqeebi,<br />
arasodes SeveguebiT<br />
teritoriebis dakargvas da yvelafers<br />
gavakeTebT saqarTvelos<br />
TiToeuli moqalaqis dasacavad.<br />
me aseve mindoda saxelmwifos-<br />
Tvis kidev erTxel Semexsenebina,<br />
rom maT yvela Rone unda ixmaron<br />
tatunaSvilis cxedris gadmosasveneblad,<br />
radgan is faqti,<br />
rom ojaxs gardacvlilis<br />
glovis saSualebac ar eZleva,<br />
kidev ufro amZimebs am isedac<br />
tragikul faqts”.<br />
sofo abaSiZe _ aqciis monaw-<br />
ile:<br />
„es aris Cveni erTianoba, aucilebelia,<br />
rom yvelam gamoxatos<br />
solidaroba daRupulTa ojaxis<br />
mimarT. unda gaverTiandeT rusuli<br />
okupaciis winaaRmdeg da<br />
vaCvenoT, rom erTad vdgavarT.<br />
unda icodnen, rom saqarTvelo<br />
da axalgazrdoba arasdros See-<br />
anu ra SegvZlebia...<br />
gueba okupacias, qarTvelebis<br />
motacebas, maT mkvlelobas. swored<br />
esaa Cveni aq yofnis mizezi.<br />
erTad dgomiT aucileblad davanaxvebT<br />
civilizebul sazogadoebas,<br />
rom mSvidoba yovelTvis<br />
omze metia da es aris WeSmariteba,<br />
romelsac veraferi daudgeba<br />
win!”<br />
Tavis mxriv, antiokupaciur<br />
aqcias SeuerTdnen qarTveli<br />
studentebi estoneTSic da<br />
saqarTvelos sxva qalaqebSic:<br />
es ki im barebis arasruli<br />
siaa, romelTac 2 saaTiT dax-<br />
ures dawesebuleba da aqcias<br />
SeuerTdnen:<br />
1. „kanudosi”;<br />
2. „kamora”;<br />
3. „amodi”;<br />
4. „vodkasti”;<br />
5. „funduki”;<br />
6. „plent Sofi”;<br />
7. „saqsesi”;<br />
8. „burger hausi”;<br />
9. „bia +”;<br />
10. Wizchiz;<br />
11. Pipes Burger joint;<br />
12. „qeTis bistro”;<br />
13. „polifonia Tbilisi”;<br />
14. „Tone”;<br />
15. Drunk Owl;<br />
16. „azerfeSa”;<br />
17. „skola skola”;<br />
18. „leila”;<br />
19. „Savi lomi”;<br />
20. „ember bari”;<br />
21. restorani „blumi”;<br />
22. restorani „zala”;<br />
23. „benduqiZis kulinariuli<br />
akademia”;<br />
24. „Rvino andergraundi”;<br />
25. „litera”;<br />
26. „kulinariumi”;<br />
27. „ambavi”;<br />
28. „drama bari”;<br />
29. „literaturuli”;<br />
30. „litkafe”;<br />
31. kyoto suSi bar;<br />
32. G.vino;<br />
33. art cafe home;<br />
34. kafe „laRiZis wyali”;<br />
35. „tatu bari”;<br />
36. Monkey’s Bar.<br />
4 marts Tavisuflebis moedanze<br />
axalgazrdebi idgnen. ecvaT<br />
feradi tansacmeli, feradi<br />
hqondaT Tmac, xelSi eWiraT patara<br />
trafaretebi warweriT:<br />
„mSvidoba omze metia!”<br />
amindi iyo wvimiani. xalxi mainc<br />
iq idga. mivxvdi, rom es Taoba<br />
solidarobis Zalas grZnobda.<br />
iqidan karga xans aravin wasula.<br />
media uwyvetad muSaobda, zogi<br />
sanTels anTebda, zogi saubrobda,<br />
zogic, ubralod, erT adgilas<br />
idga da sakuTar pozicias<br />
mdumared gamoxatavda. rusulad<br />
erT sityvasac ver gaigebdiT!<br />
mobiluridan farnebs anaTebdnen.<br />
siyvarulisa da erTad dgomis<br />
surneli idga.<br />
bevri sanTeli bevrjer Caaqro<br />
qarma. yvelas xelaxla ukidebdnen...<br />
5 marts, orSabaTs, Tibisi galereaSi<br />
aleqsande kotoraSvilis saiubi-<br />
leo gamofena gaimarTa. RonisZiebis<br />
organizatori sportul Jurnalist-<br />
Ta asociacia gaxldaT.<br />
aleqsande kotoraSvili aris fo-<br />
tokorespondenti, romelmac sportul<br />
fotografiaSi moRvaweoba 1957 wels<br />
daiwyo. Tibisi galereaSi mis gamofenaze<br />
warmodgenili iyo is namuSevre-<br />
bi, romlebic qarTuli sportis bolo<br />
60 wlis periods asaxavs. swored am<br />
fotoebis daTvalierebis saSualeba<br />
hqondaT iq misul stumrebs.<br />
saqarTvelos sportul Jurnalist-<br />
Ta asociaciis prezidentma da RonisZiebis<br />
organizatorma mixeil abaiSvilma<br />
„qronika+~-Tan saubrisas aRni-<br />
Sna, rom aleqsandre kotoraSvili naxevar<br />
saukuneze metia, erTgulad emsaxureba<br />
qarTul sports, sportul fo-<br />
toJurnalistikas:<br />
„am xnis ganmavlobaSi man marTlac<br />
unikaluri fotomatiane Seqmna. misi<br />
fotoarqivi gansakuTrebul memkvidreobas<br />
warmoadgens, romelic darCeba<br />
qarTul sports, sportul Jurnalistikasa<br />
da momavali Taobebi swored am<br />
memkvidreobaze unda gaizardon. maT<br />
unda icodnen, rom sports did warmatebebs<br />
namdvili safuZveli aqvs. es RonisZieba,<br />
fotogamofena da fotoalbomis<br />
gamocema aris Cveni, „saqarTvelos<br />
sportul JurnalistTa asociaciis”<br />
mokrZalebuli mcdeloba, rom pativi<br />
vceT am did Rvawls da mivulocoT<br />
Cvens maestros”.<br />
Tavad aleqsandre kotoraSvilma<br />
didi madloba gadauxada organiza-<br />
torebsa da mosul stumrebs Rvawlis<br />
dafasebisa da dRevandeli dRis aR-<br />
niSvnisTvis:<br />
„yvelas didi madloba am dafasebisTvis.<br />
axla xalxma, damTvalierebelma<br />
unda Seafasos is Semoqmedeba, romelsac<br />
me 55 wlis manZilze vagrovebdi”.<br />
RonisZiebis wamyvani sportuli komentatori<br />
jamlet xuxaSvili gaxl-<br />
daT:<br />
brwyinvale sportuli fotografis saiubileo saRamo<br />
„dRevandeli dRe CemTvis erT-erTi<br />
yvelaze sasixaruloa, radgan, faqtobrivad,<br />
„kotorasTan” (aleqsandre kotoraSvili)<br />
var gazrdili. me 54 weli<br />
Semisrulda, rac sportuli komentatori<br />
var da mas 55 weli, rac korespondentia.<br />
sul erTad varT yvela Sejibrebaze,<br />
saRamoze. bednieri var, rom<br />
swored me mimyavs misi saRamoebi, TiTqmis<br />
yvela saiubileos wamyvani viyavi da<br />
dResac ase moviqeci. vulocavT im adamians,<br />
romelic ar Cans, magram misi<br />
naxelavi Zalian xmauriani da xmamaRla<br />
molaparakea. misi fotoebi sportis<br />
istoriasa da qarTul sports yvelaze<br />
namdvilad asaxavs”.<br />
stumrebs Soris iyo Salva ogbai-<br />
Zec, romlis TqmiTac, aleqsandre ko-<br />
toraSvilis Rvawli fasdaudebelia<br />
qarTuli sportisTvis:<br />
„pirvel rigSi, aRsaniSnavia is, rom<br />
adamians ar unda daukargo wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
gakeTebuli saqmeebi, es RonisZieba<br />
ki yvelaze didi saCuqari iyo<br />
misi samadlo saqmeebisTvis. meore,<br />
fsiqologebis mier dadgenilia, rom<br />
adamians faqtebi da, zogadad, warsuli<br />
garkveuli fotoebiT awyobili warmoudgenia.<br />
Cemi Taobis axalgazrdebs<br />
qarTuli avtosporti swored sandros<br />
mier gadaRebuli am fotoebiT axsovs.<br />
am darbazSi warmodgenili TiToeuli<br />
kadri TamaSis peripetiebs micocxlebs,<br />
es Seexeba kalaTburTs, Zalosnebs, wyalburTelebs,<br />
fexburTelebs, avtomrbolelebs...<br />
romel saxeobas ara? amitom<br />
visurvebdi, rom, pirvel rigSi,<br />
Cvens sportsmenebs mieceT Cveni gaxarebis<br />
mizezi da Semdeg, aucileblad,<br />
baton „kotoras” bevri aseTi foto<br />
eCuqebinos sazogadoebisTvis”.<br />
gamofenaze aseve gaimarTa fotoalbom<br />
„aleqsande kotoraSvilis 100 fotos”<br />
prezentacia, romelic damswre<br />
sazogadoebas usasyidlod gadaeca da<br />
gogi ToraZis film „fotokorespondentis”<br />
Cveneba.<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
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`mersedesis~ centri saqarTveloSi<br />
„qronika+~ iwyebs Jurnalis-<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
tur gamoZiebas Sps „akas” garSemo<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
(„mersedes bencis” warmomadgenloba<br />
saqarTveloSi), romlis me-<br />
sakuTred dRes maka asaTianis ojaxi iTvleba.<br />
„mersedesis” centri saqarTve-<br />
loSi, Tavis droze, biznesmenma<br />
daviT ZoweniZem daafuZna, iyo<br />
kidec misi 20%-iani wilis mflo-<br />
beli, sanam...<br />
arada, arsebobs mravali faq-<br />
ti, roca xelisuflebis davaleb-<br />
iT mizanmimarTulad xdeba „axali<br />
garemoebebis” fabrikacia da ZoweniZis<br />
araerTi sarCelisa da ker-<br />
Zo saCivris erTsa da imave mosamarTleebisTvis<br />
gadacema. biznes-<br />
menis advokat lado sanikiZis<br />
gancxadebiT, 2015 wlidan misi<br />
dacvis qveS myofis yvela sarCeli<br />
da saCivari pirvel instancia-<br />
Si mxolod mosamarTle qoCiaSvilTan,<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlo-<br />
Si ki erTsa da imave kolegiaSi<br />
qiria-ZabuniZesTan xvdeba maSin,<br />
rodesac wlebis ganmavlobaSi mx-<br />
areTa Soris mimdinare davasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT sxvadasxva saCivari<br />
sasamarTlos sxvadasxva Semadgen-<br />
lobas ewereboda.<br />
lado sanikiZe _ daviT ZoweniZ-<br />
is advokati:<br />
_ dava exeba sawarmoSi wilebis<br />
aRdgenis sakiTxs. erT mSvenier<br />
dRes daviT ZoweniZisTvis cnobili<br />
gaxda, rom, sajaro reestrSi<br />
registrirebuli amonaweris mixedviT,<br />
aRar aris wilis mesakuTre.<br />
bunebrivia, Sps „akas” mivmarTeT da<br />
misi xelmZRvanelobisgan werilobiTi<br />
pasuxi miviReT: „ai, Sen ratom<br />
unda Cagayeno saqmis kursSi?” Tumca<br />
wina werilebze ase ar upasuxiaT.<br />
aseTi pasuxi mogvweres mxolod<br />
mas Semdeg, rac gavafrTxileT,<br />
rom Cveni uflebebis dasacavad<br />
sasamarTlos mivmarTavdiT.<br />
_ manamde ar fiqsirdeboda,<br />
rom daviT ZoweniZe sawarmos<br />
mewile aRar iyo?<br />
_ saqme is aris, rom sawarmom<br />
xelaxali registracia gaiara 1995<br />
wlis dekemberSi da registracia<br />
gavlilia 1996 wlis 8 ianvris dadgenilebiT,<br />
anu 1992 wels damkvidrebuli<br />
sawarmo ukve samarTalmemkvidrea,<br />
romelsac Sps „akas”<br />
saxiT 1995 wels 5 partniori hyavda.<br />
kompaniis sawesdebo kapitalSi<br />
Caido 635 000 dolarad Sefasebuli<br />
uZravi qoneba, romelic 1992-<br />
1995 wlebSia Seqmnili daviT ZoweniZis<br />
direqtorobis dros, raRa<br />
Tqma unda, misi saqmianobiT. xsenebuli<br />
Tanxa ar aris motanili arc<br />
saxlidan da arc sxva arc erTi partnioris<br />
mier. am sawarmos direqtori<br />
iyo daviT ZoweniZe, romelic<br />
muSaobda, yvelafers SemosavlebiT<br />
akeTebda, qmnida da sabolood,<br />
rodesac mTeli es qoneba<br />
axali kanoniT sawesdebo kapital-<br />
Si unda Cadebuliyo, Caido kidec<br />
kapitalis saxiT.<br />
_ rogor ganisazRvra da Sefas-<br />
da sawesdebo kapitali?<br />
_ 1995 wels miwa saxelmwifo<br />
sakuTreba iyo. danarCeni qoneba<br />
auditma 635 000 dolarad Seafasa<br />
da mTlianad sawesdebo kapitalSi<br />
Caido. am 635 000 dolaris sawesdebo<br />
kapitalidan 20% daviT ZoweniZis<br />
iyo da danarCeni _ partniorebis.<br />
es partniorebi iyvnen:<br />
kaxi asaTiani da misi ori qaliS-<br />
vili, jamurad _ 70%; kidev 10%-<br />
iani wilis mflobeli iyo goCa lelaZe.<br />
es gaxlavT demur lelaZis<br />
vaJi, romelic kompanias gadazidvebSi<br />
exmareboda. anu daviT ZoweniZis<br />
20%, romelic iyo dafuZnebisas<br />
_ 1992 wels 1995 wlamde, magram<br />
iq iyvnen kidev sxvebic: kalandia<br />
da viRacebi, romlebic am sami<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi marTlac ar<br />
monawileobdnen arafris marTvaSi,<br />
Tumca imaTi wilebi daviT ZoweniZesa<br />
da kaxi asaTians Soris Tanabrad<br />
ar gadanawilda, aramed batonma<br />
kaxim ganacxada, rom me waviReb<br />
70%-s, lelaZes mivceT 10%<br />
da Tqven dagrCeT isev Tqveni 20%-<br />
o. paralelurad, germanuli mxaris<br />
moTxovna iyo, rom daaxloebiT<br />
erTi milioni marka unda dadebuliyo<br />
angariSze. kaxi asaTianma<br />
ganacxada, rom is amas sakuTar<br />
Tavze iRebda. sawarmos wesdebaSi<br />
Caiwera, rom gadawyvetilebas partniorTa<br />
kreba iRebda. kanonis<br />
Sesabamisad da wesdebis SeTanxmebiT,<br />
gadawyvetileba miiReboda<br />
80%-ze meti xmiT. anu batoni daviTi<br />
sawarmos direqtorad, isev<br />
20%-ian partniorad darCa im pirobiT,<br />
rom sawarmoSi isini daviT<br />
ZoweniZis Tanxmobis gareSe gadawyvetilebas<br />
ver miiRebdnen.<br />
_ movlenebi rogor ganviTar-<br />
da?<br />
_ 1996 wlis 8 ianvars sasamarTlom<br />
dadgenileba gamoitana da<br />
sawarmo xelaxal registraciaSi<br />
gaatara, miuTiTa sawesdebo kapitali,<br />
partniorebi, wilebi, dadgenili<br />
rekvizitebi da im dResve,<br />
rodesac daviT ZoweniZem dadgenileba<br />
moitana sasamarTlodan<br />
sawarmos registraciis Sesaxeb da<br />
yvelaferi mzad iyo, kaxi asaTians<br />
angariSze unda Caericxa 700 000<br />
marka. saboloo jamSi, es fuli mas<br />
ar Cauricxavs da daviT ZoweniZes<br />
uTxra, Sen rogorc aqamde muSaobdi,<br />
ise imuSave, magram me ver gadavixdi<br />
am Tanxas. swored amis gamo<br />
daiwyo konfliqti, vinaidan ZoweniZem<br />
kaxi asaTians 70%-iani<br />
wilis ufleba mxolod am investiciis<br />
sanacvlod Caudo.<br />
_ konfliqti, konkretulad,<br />
raSi gamoixateboda?<br />
_ batonma daviTma amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
seriozuli ukmayofileba<br />
gamoTqva da aRniSna, rom mas<br />
ar surda Tavisi SesaZleblobebi-<br />
Ta da resursebiT emuSava sawar-<br />
Jurnalisturi gamoZieba<br />
mos direqtorad. „movitano mogeba,<br />
70% waiRo Sen da 20% me, maSin,<br />
rodesac Sen fuls ar deb sawarmoSio”,<br />
_ aseTi iyo ZoweniZis pozicia.<br />
amis Semdeg man partniorTa<br />
kreba moiwvia, ara mxolod partniorebis,<br />
aramed sawarmos Tanam-<br />
Sromlebis monawileobiT da ganacxada,<br />
rom 1992-1995 wlis finansuri<br />
Temebi, momdevno finansuri<br />
perspeqtivebi ganvixiloT, davgegmoT<br />
sawarmom ra unda gaakeTos<br />
1996 wels da momavalSi. bolo sakiTxad<br />
ki daviT ZoweniZes ewera<br />
axali direqtoris arCeva, anu Tuki<br />
batoni kaxi ar asrulebs Tavis<br />
pirobas da ar Semoaqvs sawedebo<br />
kapitali, maSin batoni daviTi ambobs,<br />
_ me vidaveb, rom Cven Soris<br />
wilebi gaTanabrdes. Tu arc ga-<br />
Tanabrebaze iqnebi Tanaxma da arc<br />
fuls Semoitan, maSin sxva direqtori<br />
moZebne da iman imuSaoso.<br />
partniorTa kreba 20 Tebervals<br />
dainiSna. manamde, 1996 wlis<br />
24 ianvars, batoni kaxi, rogorc<br />
Sps „akas” prezidenti da batoni<br />
daviTi, rogorc generaluri direqtori,<br />
germaniaSi, StudgardSi<br />
saTavo ofisSi miwveviT imyofebian.<br />
iq xelSekruleba gaformda da<br />
gaiwera, Tu risTvis iyo 700 000<br />
marka saWiro. „mersedesis” firmas<br />
da, saerTod, aseTi tipis sawarmoebs,<br />
rodesac eqskluziuri warmomadgenlobebi<br />
aqvT, SeRavaTiani<br />
pirobebiT xels uwyoben ganvi-<br />
Tarebasa da bonusebiT amuSaveben<br />
partniors: rac ufro kargad imuSaveb,<br />
mogebidan raRac wils Sens<br />
angariSze toveben, romelic Semdeg<br />
mxolod Seni sawarmos ganvi-<br />
Tarebas unda moxmardes. anu fuliT,<br />
romelic germaniaSi gigrovdeba,<br />
germaniaSive unda SeiZino<br />
xazi anda specialuri teqnologia,<br />
rom ganviTarde. germaniaSi kaxi<br />
asaTianisa da daviT ZoweniZis CasvlisTvis<br />
es iyo 270 000 marka. amis<br />
Sesaxeb informacia, ra Tqma unda,<br />
kaxi asaTians hqonda. germaniaSi mivlinebiT<br />
orive wavida. baton kaxis<br />
hgonia, rom gamoitans am fuls,<br />
aqedan 70%-s daitovebs, 20%-s baton<br />
daviTs miscems da fuls germaniaSi<br />
daxarjavs. mokled, 1996<br />
wlis ianvris bolos germaniidan<br />
Camovidnen da Tebervlis 20-Si<br />
partniorTa krebaa Casatarebeli.<br />
movida 20 Tebervali. dRis wesrigiT<br />
partniorTa kreba unda Catardes,<br />
raTa ganixilon weRan aRniSnuli<br />
sakiTxebi. kaxi asaTiani movida<br />
da araferi uTqvams, aiRo sabuTi<br />
da daxia. es furclebi Semdeg<br />
Seawebes, qseroqsiT aris gadaRebuli<br />
da saqmeSic devs. man partniorTa<br />
kreba CaSala da iq mowveuli<br />
adamianebidan xuTi Tu Svidi<br />
kaci adasturebs, rom es marTla<br />
ase iyo. maT Soris is adamianic,<br />
romelic axla mowmed daikiTxa. is<br />
Tavisi xelmoweriT adasturebs,<br />
rom kaxim marTla iCxuba da kreba<br />
CaSala. batoni daviTi am dros SvebulebaSia,<br />
uflebamovaleobebi<br />
moadgilesTvis aqvs gadabarebuli.<br />
saboloo jamSi, daviT ZoweniZem<br />
gamoacxada, rom SenTan CxubiT<br />
partnioris valdebulebis Sesruleba<br />
SeuZlebelia, rogorc<br />
giTxari, moZebne direqtori da me<br />
Cems saqmeebs mivxedavo. amis Semdeg<br />
kaxi asaTiani gamoscems brZanebas,<br />
anu Sps „akas” prezidentis brZaneba<br />
baton daviT ZoweniZis Sps „akas”<br />
direqtorobidan ganTavisuflebis<br />
Sesaxeb. ZoweniZe asaTians uxsnis,<br />
rom direqtorobidan Cemi gan-<br />
TavisuflebisTvis partniorTa<br />
krebis oqmi unda Seadgino, rom<br />
dRis wesrigSi iyos direqtoris<br />
ganTavisufleba da axali direqtoris<br />
daniSvna, xolo Semdeg axali<br />
direqtoris xelmowerili oqmi<br />
unda damowmdes notariulad, unda<br />
Cabardes sasamarToSi da sasamarTlo<br />
Sesabamis dadgenilebas gamoitanso.<br />
mxolod maSin eqneba axal<br />
direqtors ufleba, Sps „aka” warmoadginos<br />
da saqmianobas gauZRves.<br />
ra Tqma unda, es procedura<br />
aravis daucavs _ formalurad<br />
Seadgines partniorTa krebis oqmi<br />
nomeri 1, dRis wesrigi: direqtor<br />
daviT ZoweniZis gadadgoma da axali<br />
direqtoris daviT mkalaviSvilis<br />
daniSvna. es dokumenti notariusiT<br />
ar daamowmes, ris Semdegac<br />
daviT ZoweniZe kaxi asaTinis<br />
colisZmis ofisSi daibares. baton<br />
daviTs im dros vaJi SeeZina da saxlSi<br />
stumrianoba hqonda. dabarebul<br />
adgilas rom mivida, iq „Zveli<br />
biWebi” daxvdnen da daiwyo Cxubi.<br />
kaxi asaTians wakiTxuli aqvs<br />
batoni daviTis pretenzia wilebis<br />
ganawilebaze. batonma kaxim icoda,<br />
rom Tu es ambavi sasamarTlomde<br />
mividoda, is am process waagebda.<br />
am Cxubis Semdeg daviT ZoweniZem<br />
oqmze misi Tanamdebobidan<br />
ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb mouwera<br />
xeli, asli wamoiRo da sajaro samsaxurSi<br />
daiwyo muSoba.<br />
gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi<br />
`1996 wlis 8 ianvars sasamarTlom dadgenileba<br />
gamoitana da sawarmo xelaxal registraciaSi<br />
gaatara, miuTiTa sawesdebo kapitali,<br />
partniorebi, wilebi, dadgenili rekvizitebi<br />
da im dResve, rodesac daviT ZoweniZem<br />
dadgenileba moitana sasamarTlodan sawarmos<br />
registraciis Sesaxeb da yvelaferi mzad iyo,<br />
kaxi asaTians angariSze unda Caericxa 700 000<br />
marka. saboloo jamSi, es fuli mas ar<br />
Cauricxavs da daviT ZoweniZes uTxra, Sen<br />
rogorc aqamde muSaobdi, ise imuSave, magram<br />
me ver gadavixdi am Tanxas. swored amis gamo<br />
daiwyo konfliqti, vinaidan ZoweniZem kaxi<br />
asaTians 70%-iani wilis ufleba mxolod am<br />
investiciis sanacvlod Caudo~<br />
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Si arsebuli ekologiuri viTareba, savaWro centrebisa da<br />
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_ es is Temebia, razedac ekologi xaTuna axalaia amaxvilebs<br />
yuradRebas. eqspertis gancxadebiT, sadazRvevo kompaniebma<br />
unda uzrunvelyon obieqtebis dacva da aRmofxvran riskebi,<br />
rac xanZarsa da ekologiur dabinZurebas gamoiwvevs.<br />
„mogexsenebaT, zafxulSi tyeebis<br />
dawvam, xanZarma eliavaze da<br />
zogadad aseTma sawarmoo ciklma,<br />
kidev ufro daabinZura qalaqSi<br />
haeri. axlandeli bazrobis dawva<br />
ufro amZimebs ekologiur mdgomareobas.<br />
nebismieri wvis Sedegi,<br />
romelic arasruli wvis dioqsidebis<br />
gamofrqvevasTan aris kavSir-<br />
Si, Zalian cudad moqmedebs adamianebis<br />
janmrTelobaze. xanZris<br />
dros mimdebare teritoriaze SesunTquli<br />
haeri ufro savalalo<br />
da sariskoa patara bavSvebSi, Cvilebsa<br />
Tu xandazmulebSi, romelTac<br />
imunuri mdgomareoba Zlieri<br />
ar aqvT”, _ aRniSna axalaiam.<br />
ekologi „eliavas bazrobis”<br />
sakiTxsac exeba: „wereTeli da mis<br />
garSemo arsebuli atmosferuli<br />
haeri yvelaze dabinZurebulia<br />
saqarTveloSi. vizualuradac Cans,<br />
ramdenad dabinZurebulia da ramdenad<br />
arasworad mimdinareobs am<br />
teritoriaze saqmianoba, biznesis<br />
qmedeba Tavisi xalxis mimarT arakeTilsindisieria.<br />
ar xdeba Robis,<br />
wvisa Tu avtomobilis gamonabolqvis<br />
kontroli. aRniSnul teritoriaze<br />
Zalian bevri avtoservisic<br />
aris ganTavsebuli, romlebic ar<br />
aris aRWurvili iseTi mowyobilobebiT,<br />
rac garemos dacvis kuTxiT<br />
msgavs obieqtebs aucileblad<br />
unda hqondes. „eliavas” bazrobaze<br />
36-mde sxvadasxva tipis aqtivobaa<br />
da absoluturad yvela mosawesrigebeli<br />
da gasakontrolebelia”,<br />
_ ganacxada axalaiam.<br />
„qronika+~ ekolog xaTuna ax-<br />
alaias esaubreba:<br />
_ rogorc aRvniSne, xanZris<br />
dros arasruli wvisas dioqsinebi<br />
gamoiyofa, gamomdinare uaryofi-<br />
Ti SedgebiT. ra Tqma unda, aq ekonomikuri<br />
zaralicaa da Zalian cudi<br />
mdgomareoba eqmnebaT im adamianebs,<br />
romelTac es sakuTreba unadgurdebaT.<br />
Cven am tipis xanZrebis prevenciaze<br />
unda visaubroT, radgan<br />
bolo dros Tve ar gasula, rom<br />
dedaqalaqSi msgavsi SemTxveva ar<br />
yofiliyo. amitom kargi iqneba, Tu<br />
Senobebi saTanadod (xanZarsawinaaRmdegod)<br />
aRiWurveba.<br />
mesmis, rom problema dazRvevasTanac<br />
dakavSirebulia, magram<br />
arsebuli mdgomareobiT esec Zalian<br />
sariskoa. albaT, sadazRvevo<br />
kompaniam amazec unda ifiqros da<br />
izrunos, Tu ra pirobebiT daizRveva<br />
aseTi obieqtebi?<br />
garemos dacvis kuTxiT ki mar-<br />
Tlac saSiSi mdgomareobaa. iciT,<br />
rom Tbilisi, samwuxarod, haeris<br />
dabinZurebis kuTxiT erT-erT<br />
pirvel adgilzea da amas aRniSnuli<br />
spontanuri xanZrebic emateba.<br />
_ savaWro obieqt „qalaqis<br />
gulTan” dakavSirebiT Tu gaqvT<br />
konkretuli informacia?<br />
_ ram gamoiwvia konkretulad es<br />
xanZari, amas, albaT, eqspertiza<br />
daadgens. rogorc am teritoriis<br />
mflobelebi amboben, am yvelafers<br />
akontrolebdnen da xanZris gaCenisTvis<br />
aranairi saTanado kera ar<br />
iyoo, magram Tu eqsperti aseTi<br />
tipis Senobebs kargad daaTvalierebs,<br />
statistikurad, aRWurvis<br />
TvalsazrisiT, Zalian cudi mdgomareobaa.<br />
elementarulad, ar aqvT<br />
gamarTuli xanZarsawinaaRmdego<br />
sistema. aseve, eleqtrosadenebis,<br />
elgayvanilobis araswori montaJi<br />
gvxvdeba aseT moZvelebul obieqtebze.<br />
Sesabamisad, Zalian gauWirdeba<br />
vinmes daadasturos, Tu ram gaaCina<br />
es xanZari. eqspertizis jgufSi<br />
CarTuli ar var, rom am mxriv dazustebuli<br />
monacemebi mqondes.<br />
rac Seexeba xanZriT gamowveul<br />
Sedegebs, ukve moaxdina uaryofi-<br />
Ti zegavlena maxloblad mcxovreblebze.<br />
albaT, naxeT ramdenad<br />
Savi boli iyo gavrcelebuli, romelic<br />
haeris dioqsinebiT gajerebas<br />
xels uwyobs. rasakvirvelia, es<br />
procesi mimdebare teritoriebze<br />
mcxovrebi adamianebis janmrTelobaze<br />
uaryofiTad imoqmedebs.<br />
garda amisa, es gafrqveuli dioqsinebi<br />
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aseve naleqebisgan mtkvarSi Cairecxeba.<br />
es garemos dacvis kuTxiT<br />
kidev erTi uaryofiTi faqtoria,<br />
biomravalferovnebazec imoqmedebs.<br />
ase rom, xanZris Sedegad sxvadasxva<br />
mimarTulebiT uaryofiT<br />
Sedegebze gviwevs saubari.<br />
_ prevenciuli RonisZiebebis<br />
aucilebloba axseneT, zogadad,<br />
obieqtebze, dawesebulbebSi ra<br />
mdgomareoba gvaqvs xanZarsawi-<br />
naaRmdego prevenciis Tvalsazri-<br />
siT?<br />
_ TiTze CamosaTvlelia iseTi<br />
obieqtebi, sadac standartulad,<br />
sworad ganxorcielebulia Tundac<br />
eleqtrogayvanilobis monta-<br />
Ji. aseve, saxanZro usafrTxoebisTvis<br />
saWiro danadgarebis monta-<br />
Ji ar arsebobs. am kuTxiT qveyana-<br />
Si Zalian dabali donea. amitom<br />
vambob, rom mcirea obieqtebis<br />
CamonaTvali, sadac es standartebi<br />
gaTvaliswinebulia.<br />
saqarTvelom asocirebis xel-<br />
Sekrulebas xeli rom moawera, amiT<br />
garkveuli valdebulebebi ikisra.<br />
Sesabamisad, regulaciebi, sakanonmdeblo<br />
baza nel-nela viTardeba.<br />
axali reguliacia, romelic,<br />
Cemi informaciiT, ZalaSi Sevida,<br />
mSeneblobis procesebis sworad<br />
dagegmva da samSeneblo obieqtebis<br />
sworad aRWurvaa. es Zalian kargi<br />
nabiji iqneba, Tu am yvelafers<br />
mkacrad gaakontoleben makontrolebeli<br />
organizaciebi, visac<br />
am yvelafris monitoringi evaleba.<br />
amisTvis xelsayreli mdgomareobaa<br />
Seqmnili. rogorc iciT, evrokavSirma<br />
da evropis rekonstruqciis<br />
bankma gadawyvites, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
mcire da saSualo mewarmeebs<br />
daxmarebodnen, risTvisac<br />
sakredito xazi Seiqmna. mxolod im<br />
kompaniebs miecemaT am sakredito<br />
xazidan resursi (romelsac 15%<br />
grantad mohyveba), romlebic<br />
moawesrigeben Sromis usafrTxoebas,<br />
garemos dacvas, xanZarsawinaaRmdego<br />
sistemas, eleqtrogayvanilobasa<br />
da a. S.<br />
`15 222 xanZari gasul<br />
wels _ 2012 wlidan<br />
`Tergi~ me-11 savaWro<br />
centria, romelic daiwva~<br />
`haeris dabinZurebis kuTxiT<br />
Tbilisi erT-erT pirvel<br />
adgilzea da amas `spontanuri~<br />
xanZrebic emateba~<br />
es sayuradRebo Temaa ara marto<br />
mosaxleobisTvis, aramed amas<br />
did yuradRebas aqcevs evrokavSiri.<br />
am gzaze nabijebis gadadgma<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania, sanam daxmarebis<br />
realuri saSualebebi arsebobs.<br />
xSirad kompaniebi msgavsi tipis<br />
xarjebs Tavs arideben, radgan es<br />
damatebiT saxsrebs moiTxovs.<br />
ager, batono, sakredito xazi, romelic<br />
plus 15% grants gaZlevs<br />
imisTvis, rom obieqtebze msgavsi<br />
mimarTulebebi moawesrigo.<br />
_ xSirad xelovnurad gamow-<br />
veul xanZrebze saubroben da amas<br />
garkveul biznesinteresebs ukav-<br />
Sireben, amaze Tqveni dakvirveba<br />
rogoria?<br />
_ ki batono, amis Sesaxeb mec<br />
msmenia, magram zust informacias<br />
ar vflob da danamdvilebiT verafers<br />
getyviT. aseTi sixSiriT<br />
gamowveuli xanZrebi, Tanac iseT<br />
obieqtebze (romelic aSkara interesis<br />
sferoa), msgavsi eWvebis<br />
arsebobas ar gamoricxavs.<br />
_ qalaqSi zogadi ekologiuri<br />
mdgomareoba ra tipis prevenci-<br />
ul nabijebs moiTxovs?<br />
_ pirveli rac unda gakeTdes,<br />
aucileblad aRricxon mewarmeebi.<br />
Cveulebrivi biznesseqtori, romelsac<br />
licenzirebisa da nebarTvebis<br />
kanoni raime tipis nebarTvebs<br />
ar sTxovs, xSirad aseTi damabin-<br />
Zurebelia. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
mTlianad biznesseqtoris reestri<br />
unda Sedges. ki ar unda daajarimon,<br />
saxelmwifom Tavidan unda<br />
izrunos, rogor awios am kompaniebis<br />
cnobiereba im kuTxiT, rom<br />
garemos dacvis TvalsazrisiT TavianTi<br />
kompaniebi moawesrigon.<br />
mgonia, rom pirveli nabiji es aris.<br />
mere, ukve arseboben kompaniebi,<br />
romelTac es yvelaferi ician da<br />
Sesabamisi nebarTvebic gacemuli<br />
aqvT. magram es garemosdacviTi<br />
nebarTvebi sxvadasxva pirobiT<br />
gasces. kargi iqneba, rom aRniSnul<br />
nebarTvebSi Cadebuli pirobebis<br />
kontroli gamkacrdes.<br />
amave dros, mniSvnelovania, kompaniebma<br />
es yvelaferi biznesseqtoris<br />
winaaRmdeg brZolad ki ar<br />
miiRon, aramed imad, rom sadReisod<br />
es mTeli qveynis gamowvevaa; es<br />
TiToeuli adamianisTvis nasroli<br />
tyviaa, Tu amas erToblivad win ar<br />
aRvudgebiT da aucilebel normebs<br />
ar davicavT.<br />
am dros, biznesi ar akontrolebs<br />
Tavis emisiebs, haerSi gamoafrqvevs<br />
an wyalSi uSvebs mavne niv-<br />
Tierebebs, romelic misi teqnologiuri<br />
ciklis pirdapiri Sedegia.<br />
amitom Tu erToblivad gaumjobesebas<br />
ar mivaRwevT, ar mgonia,<br />
rame gveSvelos.<br />
rac Seexeba iseT obieqtebs, romlebzedac<br />
calsaxad viciT, rom<br />
problemuria, magaliTad, ramdenjerme<br />
visaubre eliavas bazrobis<br />
mimdebare teritoriaze, sadac niadagic<br />
dabinZurebulia. aseTi obieqti<br />
qalaqis centrSi ar unda iyos.<br />
SemTxveviTi ar aris, rom TbilisSi<br />
yvelaze dabinZurebulad<br />
elivasa mimdebare teritoria iTvleba.<br />
amas me ki ara, garemos dacvis<br />
erovnuli saagentos damontaJebuli<br />
mowyobiloba ambobs, romelic<br />
haerSi mavne nivTierebebis koncentracias<br />
swavlobs.<br />
mokled, am mxriv Zalian nela<br />
mivdivarT progresisken. es sakiTxebi<br />
aucileblad gaTvlili, gaazrebuli<br />
unda iyos. msgavsi obieqtebi<br />
qalaqgareT unda gaitanon an,<br />
minimum, im kompaniebis saqmianoba<br />
unda mowesrigdes, romlebic am<br />
teritoriaze saqmianoben. aqedan<br />
ar xdebodes gamofrqveva, gaJonva<br />
Tu sxva ubedureba, rac qalaqis<br />
mcxovreblebisTvis Zalian cudi<br />
Sedegebis gamomwvevia.<br />
_ eliavas bazrobis gadatanas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT ra realoba gva-<br />
qvs?<br />
_ Tbilisis meriaSi qalaqis ganaSenianebis<br />
gegmaze muSaoba mimdinareobs.<br />
ar vici, sabolood amaze<br />
ra gadawyvetilebis miReba igegmeba.<br />
Zvrebi namdvilad aris da ra-<br />
Rac doneze, rogorc Cans, es problemebi<br />
mowesrigdeba.<br />
_ ra udgas win savaWro centrebisa<br />
da sazogadoebrivi Tav-<br />
Seyris obieqtebis savaldebulo<br />
dazRvevas?<br />
_ es aris biznesseqtorsa da<br />
sadazRvevo kompaniebs Soris urTierTobis<br />
sakiTxi, romelsac, albaT,<br />
sakanonmdeblo bazidan moTxovnili<br />
pirobebi daaCqarebs. wesiT,<br />
amas araferi unda uSlides xels,<br />
garda imisa, rom raRac tipis ibieqtebi<br />
(romelTac, maincdamainc,<br />
xarjebis gaReba ar undaT an ar<br />
fiqroben, rom es maTTvis sariskoa),<br />
albaT, amas Tavs arideben.<br />
magram am yvelafers sakanonmdeblo<br />
baza daaregulirebs.<br />
Sedegebs rac Seexeba, pirvel<br />
rigSi isaa, rom sadazRvevo kompania<br />
haerze ar daazRvevs. riskis Sefasebisa<br />
da aRmofxvris gareSe sadazRvevom<br />
obieqti ar unda daazRvios.<br />
wesiT, Wkviani sadazRvevo kompania<br />
asec akeTebs.<br />
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manZilze araerTi mZime gansacdeli<br />
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dRis winaT kidev erTi tragediis<br />
winaSe davdeqiT _ Cven ar gvaqvs<br />
saSualeba, ojaxTan erTad, Rirseulad<br />
davitiroT arCil tatunaSvili,<br />
masTan erTad dakavebuli<br />
levan qutaSvili da ioseb pavliaSvili<br />
ki, am dromde, ojaxebTan<br />
dabrunebas ver axerxeben.<br />
ra Tqma unda, Cveni mosaxleoba<br />
sruliad samarTlianadaa SeZruli<br />
momxdari ubedurebiT. saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba yvela<br />
Rones iyenebs, rom cxedari umokles<br />
droSi gadmovasvenoT ojax-<br />
Si. yvela Cveni megobari, mTeli saerTaSoriso<br />
Tanamegobroba gverdiT<br />
gvidgas. am procesSi umniSvnelovanesia<br />
Cveni eklesiisa da<br />
patriarqis roli.<br />
axla dgeba dro, roca, miuxedavad<br />
samarTliani emociebisa,<br />
unda movnaxoT sakuTar TavSi Zala,<br />
rom am ubedurebam kidev erTxel<br />
ar Segviyvanos im sabediswero<br />
spiralSi, romelSic 90-iani<br />
wlebis dasawyisidan gviwevda siaruli,<br />
bediT Tu ubedobiT, konkretuli<br />
adamianebis simamaciTa<br />
Tu kidev sxvaTa sabediswero SecdomebiT,<br />
gamyidvelobiT Tu kidev<br />
uamravi sxva mizeziT.<br />
axla aris dro, roca unda gavmagrdeT,<br />
mamaci vaJkaci saTanadod<br />
gamoviglovoT da miwas mivabaroT.<br />
amis Semdeg isev movikriboT<br />
Zala da Seuqcevadad gavagr-<br />
ZeloT Cveni qveynis agur-agur<br />
mSeneblobis procesi da raoden<br />
rTulic ar unda iyos dRes amis<br />
Tqma, osebisa da afxazebis Semorigebis<br />
procesi _ kidev ufro meti<br />
SemarTebiTa da gulmodginebiT.<br />
darwmunebuli var, rom mavTulxlarTebis<br />
iqiTa mxaresac arian<br />
adamianebi, romlebisTvisac sulerTi<br />
ar aris, Tundac, erToblivi<br />
cxovrebis is istoria, romelic<br />
saukuneebs iTvlis.<br />
aseve, mwams, rom yvela mxares<br />
arsebobs racionaluri Zala, romelsac<br />
mSvidobisa da TanamSromlobis<br />
sjera.<br />
Cven win gvaqvs gasavleli ur-<br />
Tulesi gza, romelic erTad unda<br />
gaviaroT; magram amas ver gavake-<br />
TebT, Tu kidev erTxel Cvens, Tundac,<br />
samarTlian emociebsa da agresias<br />
mivcemT saSualebas, sabolood<br />
an didi xniT gadavavadoT<br />
eris gamTlianebis procesi.<br />
darwmunebuli var, gveyofa sibrZne<br />
da im pasuxismgeblobiT,<br />
romelic gvakisria axali Taobebis<br />
winaSe, gavagrZelebT momavlis<br />
Senebas.<br />
ukanaskneli dReebisa da saaTebis<br />
ganmavlobaSi miRebuli informaciiT,<br />
gvaqvs safuZveli ganvacxadoT,<br />
rom Cvens Zalisxmevas Sedegi<br />
mohyveba da uaxloes droSi<br />
Cven erTad mivabarebT miwas Cvens<br />
Tanamemamules”, _ aRniSnulia<br />
premieris gancxadebaSi, romelsac<br />
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saqarTvelos sapatriarqos informaciiT<br />
ki ruseTis sapatriarqodan<br />
acnobes, rom uwmindesisa<br />
da unetaresi ilia meoris TxovniT,<br />
ruseTis patriarqi ukve<br />
CaerTo arCil tatunaSvilis cxedris<br />
ojaxisTvis gadmocemis sakiTxSi<br />
da yovelmxriv ecdeba, es<br />
maqsimalurad mokle droSi ganxorcieldes:<br />
„dagvikavSirdnen ruseTis sapatriarqodan<br />
da gvacnobes, rom<br />
miiRes arCil tatunaSvilis Sesaxeb<br />
sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqis<br />
werili, romelic<br />
gadaugzavnes bulgareTSi oficialuri<br />
vizitiT myof ruseTis<br />
patriarqs.<br />
misma uwmindesoba kirilem ganacxada,<br />
rom uwmindesisa da unetaresi<br />
ilia I-is TxovniT, ukve CaerTo<br />
arCilis cxedris ojaxisTvis<br />
gadmocemis sakiTxSi da yovelmxriv<br />
ecdeba, es maqsimalurad mokle<br />
droSi ganxorcieldes.<br />
am droisTvis mopovebuli informaciiT,<br />
cxedari eqspertizazea<br />
da mas saqarTveloSi saerTa-<br />
Soriso organizacia wiTeli jvari<br />
Camoasvenebs”, _ naTqvamia saqarTvelos<br />
sapatriarqos gancxadebaSi.<br />
SegaxsenebT: 22 Tebervals<br />
saokupacio reJimma saqarTvelos<br />
3 moqalaqe: arCil tatunaSvili,<br />
levan qutaSvili da ioseb pavliaSvili<br />
axalgorSi daakava; 23 Tebervals<br />
ki gavrcelda informacia,<br />
rom arCil tatunaSvili gaurkvevel<br />
viTarebaSi gardaicvala.<br />
am Temaze „qronika+” eqspert<br />
mamuka areSiZes esaubreba:<br />
_ CemTvisa da sazogadoebisTvis<br />
ucnobi ambis gamo (rac tatunaSvilsa<br />
da adgilobriv xelisuflebas<br />
Soris moxda), misi<br />
samagaliTo dapatimreba gadawyda,<br />
rasac absoluturad idioturi<br />
qmedeba da tatunaSvilis sikvdili<br />
moyva.<br />
meore versia isaa, rom e. w.<br />
samxreT oseTis de faqto xelmZRvanelobam<br />
putinis arCevnebis win<br />
gadawyvita, Tavi gamoedo da gamoeCina,<br />
ase vTqvaT, moskovisTvis sakuTari<br />
Tavi Seexsenebina. rogorc<br />
`axla dgeba dro, roca, miuxedavad<br />
samarTliani emociebisa, unda movnaxoT<br />
sakuTar TavSi Zala, rom am ubedurebam kidev<br />
erTxel ar Segviyvanos im sabediswero<br />
spiralSi, romelSic 90-iani wlebis<br />
dasawyisidan gviwevda siaruli, bediT Tu<br />
ubedobiT, konkretuli adamianebis simamaciTa<br />
Tu kidev sxvaTa sabediswero SecdomebiT,<br />
gamyidvelobiT Tu kidev uamravi sxva mizeziT~<br />
mamuka<br />
areSiZe:<br />
Cans, tatunaSvilis, rogorc yofili<br />
samxedros dapatimreba, amitom<br />
gadawyvita. Zalian kargad icodnen,<br />
rom tatunaSvili iq dadioda,<br />
bostneulis garkveuli biznesi<br />
hqonda da, aseve, arCili yofili<br />
samxedro mosamsaxure rom<br />
iyo.<br />
erT rames zustad vityvi: aseve<br />
icodnen, rom 2008 wlis omSi ar<br />
monawileobda, es ver moaswro.<br />
misi nawili bolo momentSi Camoiyvanes<br />
amerikuli satransporto<br />
TviTmfrinaviT da sabrZolo operaciebSi<br />
monawileoba ver miiRo.<br />
axla, rac Seexeba Cem mier mopovebul<br />
informacias, es yvelaferi<br />
ufro meore versiisken ixreba.<br />
Tavis gamoCena moindomes da<br />
gasuli saukunis 30-iani wlebis<br />
mixedviT dadges speqtakli, romelsac<br />
daarqves: diversiuli jgufi<br />
„damoukidebel” „samxreT oseTSi”<br />
da situaciis areva putinis<br />
arCevnebis win. daaxloebiT, aseTi<br />
saTauri SegviZlia davarqvaT am<br />
yvelafers.<br />
mokvla rom ar undodaT, amaSi<br />
maRali albaTobiT darwmunebuli<br />
var. piriqiT, misgan Sesabamisi Cvenebis<br />
miReba surdaT. aRiarebiTi<br />
Cveneba, rom qarTuli diversiuli<br />
jgufi moqmedebs „damoukidebeli”<br />
„samxreT oseTis” teritoriaze,<br />
ruseTis xelisuflebisTvis<br />
am saCuqris mirTmeva undodaT.<br />
magram tatunaSvili amas ar dahyva<br />
da araferi maT sasargeblod<br />
ar Tqva. amitom iyo, rom cemaSi<br />
`tatunaSvils suli<br />
amohxades, radgan maT<br />
sasargeblod araferi Tqva~<br />
suli amohxades, es absoluturad<br />
Riad SeiZleba iTqvas. saCuqris<br />
magivrad, yvelaferi piriqiT gamouvidaT;<br />
radgan am saprezidento<br />
arCevnebis win ruseTis xelisuflebas<br />
ar awyobda iseT regionSi<br />
aurzauri (aseTi SedegiT dasrulebuli),<br />
romelzedac is absoluturad<br />
pasuxs agebs. es gansakuTrebiT<br />
Zalovnebis moqmedebas<br />
exeba.<br />
mas mere, rac ruseTis xelisuflebam<br />
SeierTa afxazeTisa da e.<br />
w. samxreT oseTis Zalovani struqturebi,<br />
Tavdacvisa da Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa saministro, saerTaSoriso<br />
samarTlis TvalsazrisiT, is<br />
yvela am uwyebis TanamSromlis<br />
qmedebaze pasuxs agebs. am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
cxinvalis specsamsasaxurebisa<br />
da Sinagan saqmeTa uwyebis TanamSromelTa<br />
qmedebebze.<br />
axla ruseTi raRacnairad iZulebulia,<br />
rom Tavisi satelitebi<br />
datuqsos, rac am dReebSi moxda,<br />
meore mxriv, am mdgomareobidan<br />
gamovides. imisTvis, rom situaciidan<br />
gamovides, rogorc Cans, br-<br />
Zaneba gaica, rom morigi speqtakli<br />
daidgas; ariqa, cxinvalis teritoriaze<br />
diversiuli aqciebi gagrZeldebao<br />
da amitom bolo dReebSi<br />
moawyves is, rac moawyves, anu<br />
sagangebo mdgomareoba SemoiRes,<br />
quCaSi adgilobrivi e. w. omonis<br />
TanamSromlebi darbian, manqanebs<br />
Cxreken yovelgvari Sedegis gareSe.<br />
kargad ician, rom amas araferi<br />
Sedegi ar eqneba, mokled,<br />
xalxs aSineben. aseTi rezonansuli<br />
speqtakli ki idgmeba.<br />
ase rom moxdeboda, principSi,<br />
iribad gaaJRera cxinvalis „sagareo<br />
ministrma” jioevma cxinvalidan<br />
da kovem, afxazeTis de faqto<br />
sagareo ministrma moskovidan.<br />
orivem aseTi tipis gancxadeba<br />
gaakeTa, rom saqarTvelo revanSs,<br />
oms apirebs da a. S. rasakvirvelia,<br />
amis aravis sjera, magram isini<br />
iqiT Seedaves principiT moqmedeben.<br />
_ rac Seexeba gadmocemis<br />
dagvianebas?<br />
_ amis mizezi SeiZleba mxolod<br />
erTi (da mTavari) iyos, cxedari<br />
isea dasaxiCrebuli, rom gadmocemis<br />
SemTxvevaSi yvelaferi naTeli<br />
gaxdeba. viTom guli cudad<br />
gauxda da a. S. rasac cxinvaluri<br />
presa avrcelebs, gamoCndeba, rom<br />
ase ar aris. amitom amis gakeTebas<br />
eridebian.<br />
_ danarCen ors rom ar uSve-<br />
ben, es rogor unda ganvixiloT?<br />
_ isinic saqmis kursSi arian,<br />
realurad, ra da rogor moxda,<br />
amaze xom laparaks daiwyeben. adre<br />
Tu gvian, gamouSveben, princip-<br />
Si, gamoSvebuli arian, kedlebSi<br />
aRar imyofebian, magram teritorias<br />
ver toveben. garkveuli dro<br />
unda gavides, vnebaTaRelva Cacxres<br />
da mere eqnebaT saSualeba,<br />
rom danarCeni saqarTvelos teritoriaze<br />
gadmovidnen. mere maTi<br />
monayoli iseTi simZafris ar iqneba,<br />
rogoric, magaliTad, cxel<br />
kvalze iqneboda.<br />
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_ am mZime danaSauls TviTon<br />
cxinvalis sazogadoebaSi Tu moy-<br />
va rame reagireba?<br />
_ oTxozorias mkvlelobasTan<br />
paraleli rom gavakeToT, saintereso<br />
niSnebi ikveTeba. oTxozorias<br />
SemTxvevaSi yvelaferi dabralda<br />
erT, naxevrad SeSlil kanjioRlis<br />
da iTqva, rom mas omSi<br />
naTesavebi daeRupa, amitom is<br />
araadekvaturia, Tan nasvami iyo<br />
da a. S. bolo SemTxvevaSi ase saubari<br />
ar gamova, radgan regionis<br />
mTeli Zalovani struqtura am ambavSi<br />
CarTuli iyo.<br />
maSindel afxazur sazogadoebaSi<br />
uaryofiTi da sakmaod mZafri<br />
Sefaseba mieca Tavisi mesazRvris<br />
saqciels. iqac iyvnen adamianebi,<br />
romlebic ambobdnen, rom<br />
rac ufro meti qarTveli mokvdeba,<br />
miT ukeTesia da a. S. magram<br />
marginalebze ar vsaubrob, maTze<br />
vambob, romlebic sazogadoebriv<br />
azrs qmnian, anu vinc socialur<br />
qselebSi aqtiuria. maTi azri<br />
mkveTrad gaiyo da xSir SemTxveva-<br />
Si ermaneTis winaaRmdegac gailaSqres.<br />
bevr maTgans ar moewona<br />
is, rac moxda da uaryofiTad<br />
Seafases. es socialur qselebSi<br />
Zalian kargad Canda.<br />
cxinvalSi amdens ver bedaven<br />
socialur qselebSi, magram iqauri<br />
sazogadoebrivi azri vici.<br />
moazrovne adamianebi uaRresad<br />
uaryofiTad afaseben mkvlelobis<br />
faqts. dakavebis faqts ara,<br />
mkvlelobis. da es radio „Tavisuflebis”<br />
eTerSi ganacxada kidevac<br />
iqaurma sazogadoebrivma aqtivistma,<br />
Temur cxurbaTma, romelic<br />
saqarTvelosTan yvela omSi<br />
monawileobda. manac uaRresad<br />
uaryofiTad Seafasa TviTon es<br />
mkvlelobis faqti da amiT marto<br />
Tavisi ki ara, moazrovne sazogadoebis<br />
pozicia gamoxata. oRond,<br />
es socialur qselebSi, maincdamainc,<br />
ar Cans, radgan, vimeoreb,<br />
iq amdens ver bedaven, rogorc es<br />
afxazeTSi xdeba.<br />
_ Cveni xelisuflebis rea-<br />
gireba ramdenad sakmarisia?<br />
_ jer is, rom de faqto xelisuflebam<br />
Secdoma dauSva, amas<br />
TviTon adgilobrivebic acnobiereben.<br />
amitom bolo mitingze<br />
gamosulma axalgoris de faqto<br />
gamgebelma, filip xaCirovma, ganacxada,<br />
rom arafer SuaSi var, es<br />
yvelaferi uCemod moxdao. sxva-<br />
Ta Soris, Zalian saintereso pasa-<br />
Jia. xaCirovi xom erT-erT mkvlelad<br />
gamocxadda, man ki uamravi<br />
xalxis win mitingze Tavi imarTla.<br />
_ mitingi rasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
gaimarTa?<br />
_ xalxi Sekriba da situacia<br />
auxsna, Tu ratomaa Semotanili<br />
sagangebo mdgomareoba. iq qarTvelebic<br />
iyvnen, osebic da Cven viciT,<br />
raze iyo saubari. xaCirovma<br />
manamde raRacebi ibodiala, magram,<br />
jer erTi, eSinia, radgan mis<br />
Zmas mcxeTaSi saxli aqvs, aqeTa<br />
mxares kontaqtebi aqvT. Zalian<br />
kargad icis xaCirovma, Tu mas Seawmindes<br />
xeli, adre Tu gvian, amaze<br />
pasuxismgebloba mouwevs. axla,<br />
mas Tu ara, naTesavebs mouwevT da<br />
amaze kargad moexseneba; radgan<br />
yvela erTi regionis mcxovrebia<br />
da erTmaneTs gadasarevad icnoben.<br />
aq axalgorze ar vambob,<br />
mTlianad Sida qarTlze vsaubrob.<br />
zogierT Temas davxurav da<br />
xvdebiT, razec vambob.<br />
mokled, misi Zma aqeT aris. yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, erTi wlis win iyo,<br />
axla, am wuTSi, zustad sad aris,<br />
ar vici, magram Tu aucilebeli<br />
gaxdeba, arc misi povna gaWirdeba.<br />
rac Seexeba Cveni xelisuflebis<br />
qmedebas, kritikuli TvaliT<br />
SevxedoT, ra SeuZlia gaakeTos?<br />
parlamentSi gaisma, rom ruseTs<br />
sanqciebi davuwesoTo. me magali-<br />
Tad situaciis Secvlis meTodologiaSi<br />
sanqciebis Temas ver vxedav.<br />
rom davuwesoT ra, amiT ras<br />
izams, ra moxdeba? rame Seicvleba,<br />
ruseTi pozicias Secvlis? Tu<br />
dasavleTis TvalSi ufro aqtiurebi<br />
gamovCndebiT?<br />
darwmunebiT SemiZlia erTi ram<br />
giTxraT: Cveni dasavleli partniorebi<br />
roca fiqrobdnen, rom<br />
sanqciebi saWiroa, es calsaxad<br />
iqneboda kidec. magram isini amas<br />
aucileblobad ar miiCneven, amitom<br />
saWiro ar aris romis papze<br />
metad kaTolikeoba. es Zalian<br />
mniSvneloni sakiTxia da danarCen<br />
komentarTan kavSirSia.<br />
axla meores getyviT, sxva tipis<br />
aqtiurobas rac Seexeba. rasakvirvelia,<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebas<br />
bevrad ufro meti aqtiuroba<br />
marTebs saerTaSoriso asparezze.<br />
vimeoreb, ruseTi saer-<br />
TaSoriso samarTlis subieqtia,<br />
amitom yvelaferze pasuxismgebelia,<br />
rac cxinvalSi xdeba. ai, am<br />
Temas bolomde unda miawvnen.<br />
ruseTi, rogorc Jenevis molaparakebebis<br />
mTavari subieqti, valdebulia,<br />
zomebi miiRos. iq cxinvali<br />
da afxazeTi mxolod warmomadgenlebi<br />
arian, mTavari subieqti<br />
ruseTia. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
saerTaSoriso TvalsazrisiT<br />
saqarTvelom yvela berketi unda<br />
gamoiyenos.<br />
amas, avad Tu kargad, saqarTvelos<br />
xelisufleba gaakeTebs, magram<br />
arsebobs sxva meTodebic da<br />
maTi gamoyenebis aucileblobazec<br />
unda dafiqrdes xelisufleba.<br />
es is meTodebia, romlebic<br />
(sworad minda gamigoT) analogiur<br />
situaciebSi ukve gamoyenebula<br />
90-ian wlebSi, sxva drosac.<br />
metoqes Seni Tu ar eSinia, unda<br />
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sakuTrebiT, cxinvalis de faqto<br />
xelisufleba saqarTvelos xelisuflebas<br />
ar erideba da yvelafers<br />
akeTebs, rasac ki saWirod<br />
miiCnevs. amis daSveba arafriT Sei-<br />
Zleba.<br />
ar SeiZleba samxedroebis biznesad<br />
iqces (am sityvebs sruli<br />
pasuxismgeblobiT vambob) is, rac<br />
pirobiT sazRvarze xdeba. rusma<br />
samxedroebma es yvelaferi biznesad<br />
aqcies. sakmarisia romelime<br />
jariskacs fuli dasWirdes an<br />
SvebulebaSi wasvla moundes, rom<br />
maSinve saqarTvelos moqalaqis<br />
gatacebis operacia ewyoba. zogjer<br />
es qarTul soflebSi xdeba,<br />
`aRiarebiTi Cveneba, rom qarTuli<br />
diversiuli jgufi moqmedebs<br />
`damoukidebeli~ `samxreT oseTis~<br />
teritoriaze, ruseTis<br />
xelisuflebisTvis am saCuqris<br />
mirTmeva undodaT. magram<br />
tatunaSvili amas ar dahyva da<br />
araferi maT sasargeblod ar Tqva.<br />
amitom iyo, rom cemaSi suli<br />
amohxades, es absoluturad Riad<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas. saCuqris magivrad,<br />
yvelaferi piriqiT gamouvidaT;<br />
radgan am saprezidento arCevnebis<br />
win ruseTis xelisuflebas ar<br />
awyobda iseT regionSi aurzauri<br />
(aseTi SedegiT dasrulebuli),<br />
romelzedac is absoluturad pasuxs<br />
agebs. es gansakuTrebiT Zalovnebis<br />
moqmedebas exeba~<br />
romlebic pirobiTi sazRvris<br />
aqeT mxares mdebareobs da mere<br />
samxedro mosamsaxure Svebulebas<br />
an fuls iRebs.<br />
es biznesi unda moiSalos. ar<br />
moiSleba, Tu aqtiur qmedebebs ar<br />
mimarTes imisTvis, rom gveridebodnen.<br />
is Tema araa, romelzec<br />
xelisuflebam sazogadod unda<br />
ilaparakos, magram es meTodi<br />
unda arsebobdes.<br />
_ ra unda gakeTdes, rom me-<br />
ore mxare qarTuls eridebodes<br />
mainc?<br />
_ aTasi meTodi arsebobs da<br />
amas gazeTis furclebze ver gamovitan.<br />
es meTodebi damuSavebuli,<br />
aprobirebulia da yvelam kargad<br />
icis iqiTa mxaresac.<br />
_ saerTaSoriso meqanizmebis<br />
aqtiurad gamoyenebis aucilebloba<br />
axseneT, es ramdenad sak-<br />
marisad xdeba?<br />
_ evroparlamentSi Tu evrosabWoSi<br />
gancxadeba rom keTdeba, es<br />
aris gancxadeba gancxadebisTvis.<br />
mTavari Cveni partniorebis, gan-<br />
`dRes, gansakuTrebiT, cxinvalis de<br />
faqto xelisufleba saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebas ar erideba da yvelafers<br />
akeTebs, rasac ki saWirod miiCnevs. amis<br />
daSveba arafriT SeiZleba~<br />
`de faqto xelisuflebam Secdoma dauSva, amas<br />
TviTon adgilobrivebic acnobiereben. amitom<br />
bolo mitingze gamosulma axalgoris de faqto<br />
gamgebelma, filip xaCirovma, ganacxada, rom<br />
arafer SuaSi var, es yvelaferi uCemod moxdao.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, Zalian saintereso pasaJia.<br />
xaCirovi xom erT-erT mkvlelad gamocxadda, man<br />
ki uamravi xalxis win mitingze Tavi imarTla~<br />
sakuTrebiT aSS-s kuluaruli aqtivobebia.<br />
es ar gamova im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
zeaqtiuri ar iqneba. SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis administraciam<br />
gancxadeba gaakeTa, Cven gancxadeba<br />
ki ara, realuri satelefono<br />
zarebis mTeli wyeba gvWirdeba,<br />
realuri kuluarul- diplomatiuri<br />
mimarTvebi.<br />
pirvel rigSi, cxedris dabruneba<br />
gvWirdeba; meore, ruseTma<br />
pasuxi unda agos. ar vambob,<br />
rom gamovides da bodiSi moixados,<br />
amis gamkeTebeli moskovSi<br />
aravinaa. pasuxisgeba imaSi gamoixateba,<br />
rom daiwyos Tundac Ziebis<br />
procesi da Semdeg damnaSaveebis<br />
dasja.<br />
SeiZleba Cemi naTqvami cinizmad<br />
CaiTvalos, magram sjobs iTqvas,<br />
vidre ara, _ Tu ruseTma samarTlebrivi<br />
procesi ar daiwyo,<br />
maSin sazRvris mimdebare teritoriaze<br />
sxva procesi daiwyeba.<br />
axla, rodesac organizacia<br />
„Zala erTobaSia” saubrobs, rom<br />
ruseTidan wamosul an iqiT mimaval<br />
tvirTebis gzas gadavuketavTo,<br />
aqac gamosavals ver vxedav.<br />
amiT isev saqarTvelosa da somxe-<br />
Tis ekonomikas miadgeba dartyma,<br />
ruseTi verc ki gaigebs ekonomikuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT.<br />
Cven iseTi nabijebi unda gadavdgaT,<br />
romelic konkretuli adamianebis<br />
an adamianTa jgufebisTvis<br />
mtkivneuli iqneba. es unda<br />
gakeTdes.<br />
_ xelisuflebis humanitaruli<br />
proeqtebi Tu unda gagr-<br />
Zeldes okupirebul teritorie-<br />
bTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ amazec kiTxviTve gipasuxebT,<br />
rom ar gagrZeldes, amiT ra? jer<br />
erTi, cxinvalSi araviTari sxva<br />
proeqti ar aris, garda jandacvis<br />
proeqtisa, romelic isedac minimalurad<br />
muSaobs. es proeqtic<br />
rom SevaCeroT, ras gvaZlevs? amitom<br />
mizanSewoniloba unda avwon-davwonoT<br />
da aqedan gamovideT.<br />
Tu es procesi raRac damatebiT<br />
mogebas gvaZlevs, unda gavakeToT.<br />
Tu ara, maSin arc unda<br />
gavakeToT. imis Zaxili, rom Cveni<br />
Zmebi arian, unda damTavrdes.<br />
gvyavs moqalaqeebi, romlebic<br />
Tavs Cvens moqalaqeebad ar Tvlian,<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, Sesabamisi<br />
terminologia da midgomebi<br />
unda gamoviyenoT.<br />
am procesSi Zalian mniSvnelovania<br />
ideologiuri muSaoba. Cven<br />
teqnikur muSaobas vaxorcielebT<br />
da am xalxs vmkurnalobT. amitom,<br />
vTqvaT, afxazeTis moqalaqe-<br />
Ta erT nawils momxmarebuluri<br />
damokidebuleba Camouyalibda.<br />
isini amboben, _ CvenTan yvela<br />
valSia, qarTvelebi valSi arian,<br />
radgan omiT Semovidnen, Cveni<br />
sisxli daRvares da amitom unda<br />
gvimkurnalono; rusebi valSi arian<br />
imitom, rom kavkasiaSi Cveni<br />
teritoria SevunarCuneT, rogorc<br />
samxedro politikuri forposti,<br />
amitom valdebuli arian,<br />
Segvinaxon. amitom amas ideologiuri<br />
aqtivoba, brZola sWirdeba<br />
imisTvis, rom msgavsi damokidebuleba<br />
Seicvalos.<br />
afxazuri axalgazrdobis gadamwyvetma<br />
umravlesobam saerTod<br />
ar icis, ra unda saqarTvelos da<br />
qarTvel xalxs. da Cven am mimarTulebiT,<br />
praqtikulad, arafers<br />
vakeTebT. roca mekiTxebiT,<br />
xelisuflebam ra unda gaakeTos<br />
xangrZlivi perspeqtivis TvalsazrisiT,<br />
xelisuflebis saqme<br />
farTo ideologiuri frontis<br />
Seqmnaa. roca vambobT, rom Cven<br />
winaaRmdeg ruseTi rbil Zalas<br />
iyenebs (Tumca am rbil Zalas sxva<br />
qveynebic aqtiurad iyeneben), am<br />
dros, sad aris Cveni, qarTuli<br />
rbili Zala? ar aris! ai, farTo<br />
ideologiuri frontis Seqmna<br />
swored qarTuli rbili Zala iqneba.<br />
es erT-erT umniSvnelovanesi<br />
safiqrali da gasakeTebelia xangrZlivi<br />
perspeqtivis TvalsazrisiT.<br />
_ putinis mier uaxlesi samxe-<br />
dro miRwevebis demonstrirebam<br />
ra STabeWdileba dagitovaT?<br />
_ samxedro specialisti ar var<br />
da pirvelad cota Sevcbi, SemaSfoTa<br />
iman, rac vnaxe. magram rom<br />
ar mcodnoda, rom is „su 57" (bolo<br />
Taobis TviTmfrinavi, romelic<br />
siriaSi gagzavnes), principSi,<br />
butaforia aRmoCnda, ufro SemeSindeboda.<br />
mere, roca cnobili<br />
samxedro eqspertebis, maT Soris,<br />
rusebis analizs daveyrdeni, mivxvdi,<br />
rom es yvelaferi ufro idelogiuri<br />
muSaobis nawilia, vidre<br />
realoba.<br />
garda amisa, informaciis didi<br />
masa gamoqveynda axali raketis,<br />
„sarmatis” potencialis Taobaze.<br />
amazec SeiZleba iTqvas, rom es<br />
putinis mxridan ufro propagandistuli<br />
demarSi iyo, vidre arsebuli<br />
realoba, anu es raketa<br />
arsebobs, oRond damuSavebis procesSia.<br />
sxvadasxva eqspertuli SefasebiT,<br />
am raketis gonze mosayvanad<br />
dro aris saWiro da sxvadasaxva<br />
TariRi saxeldeba, samidan<br />
aT wlamde.<br />
ramdenad SeuZlia am iaraRs<br />
problemebi Seuqmnas natos sahaero<br />
Tavdacvas? Teoriulad<br />
SeuZlia, magram im iaraRs, rasac<br />
nato da, gansakuTrebiT, SeerTebuli<br />
Statebi flobs, bevrad meti<br />
zianis motana SeuZlia dapirispirebuli<br />
mxarisTvis, vidre am<br />
„sarmats”. es Cemi mxridan samxedro<br />
saqmeSi araspecialistis Sefasebaa.<br />
N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
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saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg ruse-<br />
Tis mier ganxorcielebul nabijebze,<br />
arCil tatunaSvilis mkv-<br />
lelobis mizezebze, ori qveynis<br />
urTierTobaSi arsebul problemebsa<br />
da separatistuli reJimebis<br />
moqmedebis formebze „qroni-<br />
ka+” istorikossa da Jurnalist<br />
daTo gamcemliZes esaubra:<br />
_ arCil tatunaSvilis mkv-<br />
leloba sakmaod bevr kiTxvis<br />
niSans badebs. es imis miuxedavad,<br />
rom martivi logikiT, TiTqos,<br />
yvelaferi naTelia _ mokles yo-<br />
fili samxedro mosamsaxure. amis<br />
miuxedavad, mainc, ra unda iyos<br />
realuri mizezi, Tundac, versie-<br />
bis doneze?<br />
_ arCil tatunaSvilis mkvleloba<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovani movlenaa.<br />
albaT yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
da niSandoblivic ki im xnis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
ra droc giga oTxozorias<br />
mkvlelobidan gavida.<br />
pirvel rigSi, es tragediaa da<br />
Cvens gulwrfel survils, mivusam-<br />
ZimroT ojaxs, aZlierebs arCilis<br />
gmiruli saqcieli: sruliad aSkaraa,<br />
rom igi ver daTrgunes, ver gatexes,<br />
albaT, sityvac Seubruna<br />
mCagvrelebs, iqneb, xelic da swored<br />
amitom mokles!<br />
veWvob, misi mokvla saokupacio<br />
reJims Tavidanve dagegmili hqonoda:<br />
mTeli es provokacia ufro<br />
imaze iyo gaTvlili, arCil tatunaSvili<br />
daepatimrebinaT aSkarad<br />
SeTiTxnili braldebebiT, antiqarTuli<br />
piari aegorebinaT da zegavlenac<br />
moexdinaT saqarTvelo-<br />
Si arsebul politikur viTarebaze<br />
_ oRond, seriozuli danakargis<br />
gareSe. ase ar gamouvidaT am<br />
axalgazrda kacis pirovnuli gmirobis<br />
wyalobiT.<br />
darwmunebuli var, „msxverpli”<br />
winaswar hyavdaT SerCeuli: „yofili<br />
samxedro”, rogorc Cven vambobT.<br />
da is, rom Cven _ mec, maT<br />
Soris _ vlaparakobT swored „yofil<br />
samxedroze” da ara, ubralod,<br />
moqalaqeze, provokaciis cbier<br />
avtorTa warmatebaa: asec hqondaT<br />
gaTvlili Tavidanve, rom sapasuxo<br />
demagogiuri „saTqmeli”<br />
hqonodaT, _ is xom samxedroao?!<br />
magram erTi ver gaTvales: ar-<br />
Cilis vaJkacoba da Seupovroba,<br />
misi patriotizmi. Sedegad, am mxecurma<br />
mkvlelobam _ nacvlad dapatimrebisa,<br />
rac Tavdapirvelad<br />
Cafiqrebuli hqondaT _ garkveuli<br />
problemebi mainc Seuqmna saokupacio<br />
reJims. Tumca, samwuxarod,<br />
ara egzistenciuri.<br />
aSkaraa, arCils isini didi xnis<br />
ganmavlobaSi „akvirdebodnen”, sa-<br />
10<br />
pirobiTad, „saSvis daSvebasTan”.<br />
arCil tatunaSvilis mkvleloba<br />
„ÔÑÁ“-s dagegmilia Tu ara,<br />
imaze nakleb mniSvnelovani ar aris,<br />
vidre faqti: danaSauli ganxorcielda<br />
ara rusi, aramed osi<br />
separatistebis xeliT. am ukanasknelTa<br />
„jalaTuri profesionalizmi”<br />
kolegebisas ver swvdeba. amas<br />
imitom vambob, rom kvlavindeburad<br />
uryevad var darwmunebuli:<br />
am etapze arCilis dapatimreba iyo<br />
dagegmili da ara misi mkvleloba!<br />
mokles imitom, rom, maTTvis moulodnelad,<br />
winaaRmdegoba gauwia<br />
da ver gatexes.<br />
miznad isaxavdnen dapatimrebuli<br />
meomris TemiT mudmiv manipulirebas<br />
_ saqarTveloSi viTarebis<br />
arevisa da daZabulobis keraTa<br />
Sesaqmnelad. am mizans nawilobriv<br />
miaRwies kidec: ramdenime saaTiT<br />
gadaiketa Tbilisi-foTis avtomagistrali,<br />
romelsac sasicocxlo<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs mTeli samxreT<br />
kavkasiisTvis; oRond am mxecurma<br />
mkvlelobam, Semdeg ki saerTod<br />
gaugonarma uarma, qristianuli<br />
wesiT dasasaflaveblad mainc gadmoecaT<br />
cxedari mSoblebisTvis,<br />
„gegmebi auriaT” rogorc separatistebs,<br />
aseve maT patronebs.<br />
axla cxinvalSic da moskovSic<br />
imaze msjeloben, ra ufro xelsayreli<br />
iqneba maTTvis: saerTod<br />
ar gadmoscen cxedari ojaxs, Tu<br />
gadmoscen da Seurigdnen imas, rom<br />
sikvdilis realuri mizezi gairkveva:<br />
anu cema da sastikad wameba.<br />
Cemi varaudiT, moskovi da cxinvali<br />
axla cdiloben, evropeli<br />
Suamavlebis meSveobiT miaRwion<br />
pirobas, rom Tu cxedari saqar-<br />
Tvelos gadmoecema, dakrZalva<br />
moxdes „uxmaurod” da jalaTebis<br />
mimarT braldebebi aRar gaismas.<br />
isev da isev, Zalian cbierad<br />
cdiloben aq evropelebis CarTvas,<br />
raTa Semdeg piroba ara separatistebis<br />
an moskovis, aramed evropelTa<br />
mimarT darRveulad gamocxaddes:<br />
aqaoda, evropeli Suamavlebi<br />
Segvpirdnen, saqarTveloSi<br />
xmauri aRar iqneboda Tu cxedars<br />
davabrunebdiT, magram piroba daarRvieso.<br />
aq dilema isaa, rom xelisufle-<br />
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gangebod misces e. w. samxreT ose-<br />
Tis „ÊÃÁ”-s saSvi da im dros elodnen,<br />
rodesac provokacia dasWirdebodaT.<br />
_ aris erTi metad mniSvnelovani<br />
faqti: bolo dReebis ganmav-<br />
lobaSi qarTveli veteranebis<br />
erT nawils socialuri qselebiT<br />
muqaris erTi da igive teqstebi<br />
miuvidaT (Ïóñòü çàõëåáíóòñÿ è<br />
äðóãèå, êòî ïî Öõèíâàëó ïóñêàë<br />
ñíàðÿäû. Ñïðîñè èõ. À Àð÷èë<br />
õîòåë ñáåæàòü. Âîò è ñëó÷èëîñü<br />
òàêîå. Îí íå ïåðâûé çàäåðæ-<br />
àííûé è íàäåþñü íå ïîñëåäíèé.<br />
Òàê ÷òî óñïîêîéòåñü. Ñïðîñè<br />
âàøèõ ñîòðóäíèêîâ ïîëèöèè, ãäå<br />
îíè òðóïû íàøèõ ìîëîäûõ ðåáÿò<br />
ñïðÿòàëè? Ìîæåøü â èíòåðíåòå<br />
ïîèñêàòü. Èõ ôàìèëèè Õóãàåâ,<br />
Ïëèåâ, Õà÷èðîâ. Èì ïî 20 ëåò<br />
áûëî. È íå âû¸áûâàéòåñü áîëüøå<br />
íàñ÷¸ò òåððèòîðèè. Þæíàÿ<br />
Îñåòèÿ áûëà è áóäåò íåçàâèñèìîé<br />
îò Ãðóçèè). gasaTvaliswinebelia<br />
is mdgomareoba, rom aseTi wer-<br />
daTo gamcemliZe:<br />
ilebi miuvidaT saqarTvelodan<br />
didi xnis winaT emigrirebul veteranebsac.<br />
meore mxriv, isic cxa-<br />
dia, rom tatunaSvili 2008 wlis<br />
saomar moqmedebebSi ar monawileobda.<br />
Tan es werili „oficialuri”<br />
cxinvalis versiebs ewinaaRm-<br />
degeba. anu rasTan gvaqvs saqme da<br />
ramdenad aris SesaZlebeli vi-<br />
varaudoT, rom aq ar aris raime<br />
saxis simarTlis marcvali?<br />
_ rac Seexeba muqaris werilebs,<br />
rasac qarTveli veteranebi iReben<br />
ucnauri „sizustiT”, rodesac gamomgzavnebma<br />
zustad ician eleqtronuli<br />
misamarTebi, telefonis<br />
nomrebi, saxelebi da a. S., esec am<br />
masStaburi provokaciis nawilia:<br />
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tradiciulad, Zlieri specsamsaxurebi<br />
hyavs, romelTa „sacecebi”<br />
Sors aRwevs, imaze Sors, vidre ubralo<br />
moqalaqeebs hgoniaT.<br />
Cven postsabWouri qveyana da<br />
sazogadoeba varT. amgvar sazogadoebaSi<br />
ki sistemurad rTulia ise<br />
„aaSeno” armia an sxva Zalovani<br />
struqturebi, rom qmediTi imuniteti<br />
hqondeT „gareSe gavlenisgan”.<br />
es struqturebi iyo, aris da<br />
kidev didxans iqneba savse „gavlenis<br />
agentebiTa” da „seqsotebiT”.<br />
SegaxsenebT cnobil faqts: 2008<br />
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specdaniSnulebis razmSi TaTbiri<br />
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dasrulebidan erTi saaTis Semdeg<br />
cxinvalSi myofma samxedro generalitetma<br />
gancxadeba gaakeTa: „er-<br />
Ti tyviac Tu gavardeba, Tbiliss<br />
davbombavT”.<br />
_ am konteqstSi aucileblad<br />
unda vikiTxo, _ Tqven gaxsovT<br />
araerTi faqti, rodesac sxvadasx-<br />
va viTarebaSi likvidirebul iqna<br />
kodoris specoperaciis araerTi<br />
`putini, rogorc<br />
Cans, uaxloes<br />
momavalSi<br />
apirebs va<br />
bankze<br />
wasvlas<br />
mezobel<br />
saxelmwifoebTan<br />
mimarTebiT~<br />
sruliad aSkaraa, rom igi ver<br />
daTrgunes, ver gatexes, albaT, sityvac<br />
Seubruna mCagvrelebs, iqneb, xelic da<br />
swored amitom mokles!<br />
monawile. faqtia, rom kvali rus-<br />
eTis specsamsaxurebamde midis.<br />
tatunaSvilis<br />
tunaSvilis<br />
gardacvalebis<br />
faqti ramdenad aris SesaZlebeli<br />
aseve ukavSirdebodes „fe-es-bes”?<br />
_ „kodoris specoperaciis” monawileTa<br />
mkvleloba, maT Soris, razmis<br />
meTauris baTumSi afeTqeba _<br />
xazi gavusvaT TariRs: 2010 wels!<br />
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organizeba „ar gauWirdebodaT”,<br />
magram informacias rom flobdnen<br />
saxelebiT, gvarebiT, lamis misamarTebiT<br />
da a. S. _ esaa yvelaze<br />
samwuxaro da SemaSfoTebeli. arada,<br />
vis SeiZleboda scodnoda im<br />
biWebis vinaoba, vinc kodoris operacia<br />
ganaxorciela 2007 wels?<br />
ritorikuli kiTxvaa.<br />
dRes viTareba kidev ufro<br />
garTulda, magram sistemurad es<br />
problema didi xania, arsebobs.<br />
_ Tqven kargad gaxsovT tristan<br />
wiTelaSvilTan dakavSirebuli<br />
skandali, romelic maleve miC-<br />
umaTda. im periodSi saubari iyo<br />
imaze, rom susul mxares gadaeca<br />
Tbilisisa da ara mxolod Tbilisis<br />
irgvliv arsebuli saforti-<br />
fikacio nagebobebis rukebi. aseve<br />
yuradReba maxvildeboda im garemoebaze,<br />
rom ruseTis specsamsax-<br />
urebma sruli dosieebi miiRes<br />
qarTveli veteranebis Sesaxeb. ramdenad<br />
adekvaturi iyo maSin xelisuflebisa<br />
da, gnebavT, sazogadoebis<br />
reaqcia da ramdenad sa-<br />
zianoa es faqti samomavlod qa-<br />
rTuli saxelmwifosTvis?<br />
_ tristan wiTelaSvilTan dakavSirebiT<br />
yvelaferi naTelia. oRond<br />
aq arsebiTia ara TviT wiTelaSvili<br />
da mis „legendad” Seqmnili<br />
NGO, aramed „jaWvis” is rgolebi,<br />
romlebic am subieqtis mo-<br />
Txovnebs „akavSirebs” saboloo<br />
gadawyvetilebis miRebasTan, anu,<br />
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a ki miscems aseT pirobas, magram<br />
gaubedurebul ojaxs an aRSfoTebul<br />
sazogadoebas ra gaaCumebs?!<br />
_ cxadia, rom saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebas ruseTsa da marionetul<br />
da, amavdroulad, faSis-<br />
tur reJimebze _ okupirebul<br />
teritoriebze minimaluri gavle-<br />
na aqvT. amas cxadyofs, Tundac,<br />
tatunaSvilis cxedris gadmoce-<br />
masTan dakavSirebuli nervebis<br />
omi. ra unda gakeTdes saimisod,<br />
rom es viTareba Seicvalos da saqarTvelo<br />
separatistuli reJime-<br />
bisTvis angariSgasawevi faqtori<br />
gaxdes? ramdenad adekvaturia ko-<br />
nfliqtis zonaSi evrokavSiris<br />
damkvirvebelTa misia? ramdenad<br />
uweven mas angariSs igive okupire-<br />
buli teritoriebis reJimebi da<br />
cxadia, ruseTi? anu raime sargebels<br />
vxedavT am misiebis arse-<br />
bobiT?<br />
_ cnobili maqsimaa, rom politika<br />
aris „SesaZleblis xelovneba”.<br />
evropel megobrebs, romlebic<br />
saokupacio sazRvris monitoring-<br />
Si gvexmarebian, mets namdvilad<br />
ver movTxovT, vinaidan „meti” maT<br />
resursebsa da SesaZleblobebs<br />
aRemateba.<br />
arsebobs sadamkvirveblo misiis<br />
mandati da am mandats isini ver<br />
daarRveven. problemac isaa, rom<br />
aravin msjelobs imaze, ratom<br />
Camoyalibda, Tavis droze, mandati<br />
swored „ase” da ara sxvagvarad?!<br />
magaliTad, rodesac 2009-2010<br />
wlebSi rusma da osma snaiperebma<br />
saokupacio xazis gaswvriv ramdenime<br />
aTeuli qarTveli policieli<br />
mokles, xolo sadamkvirveblo<br />
misiis xelmZRvanelma amis gamo<br />
moskovs protesti ganucxada.<br />
iciT, ra upasuxa gaqnilma sergei<br />
lavrovma? „Tqveni mandatiT mxolod<br />
imis ufleba gaqvT daakvirdeT,<br />
Tu ra aqciebs axorcielebs<br />
saqarTvelo „samxreT oseTisa” da<br />
afxazeTis mimarTulebiT, magram<br />
amave mandatiT ufleba ar gaqvT,<br />
imaze reagirebdeT, Cven ra aqciebs<br />
vaxorcilebT os da afxaz<br />
mokavSireebTan erTad saqarTvelos<br />
teritoriazeo”.<br />
daujerebelia, magram garwmunebT,<br />
swored ase iyo da zustad<br />
ase iTqva.<br />
2008 wlis es „mandati” aris katastrofuli,<br />
sazareli samxedro,<br />
politikuri da diplomatiuri<br />
marcxis „produqti”. amaze metis<br />
Tqma aRarc aris saWiro, albaT.<br />
_ gamosavali? ra unda vi-<br />
RonoT?<br />
_ rac Seexeba imas, Tu ra Sei-<br />
Zleba viRonoT... samwuxarod da<br />
savalalod, imave mizezebiT, Zalian<br />
Znelia mianiSno sxva raime resursze<br />
garda imisa, rom saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam arsebobis normaluri<br />
pirobebi Seuqmnas Cvens<br />
gmir biWebs, _ yofil samxedroebs;<br />
daasaqmos an sxvagvarad daexmaros<br />
maT, raTa isini, arCil tatunaSviliviT,<br />
iZulebulni ar iyon, regularulad<br />
Sevidnen im „krazanebis<br />
budeSi”, Tundac, mcire biznesis<br />
sawarmoeblad, sadac maT Sesaxeb<br />
yvelaferi ician da nebismier<br />
dros SeuZliaT provokaciis organizeba,<br />
rodesac „sasargeblod”<br />
da „xelsayrelad” CaTvlian. kvlav<br />
da kvlav vimeoreb: arCil tatunaSvils<br />
provokatorebisTvis swored<br />
imitom hqonda „faseuloba”, rom<br />
yofili samxedro iyo, anu demagogiuri<br />
„saTqmeli” eqnebodaT. analogiuri<br />
aqcia Cveulebrivi moqalaqis<br />
mimarT SesaZloa, arc ganexorcielebinaT,<br />
Tumca, meore mxriv,<br />
verc im tragikul realobas gaveqceviT,<br />
rom zogadad Znelia ipovo<br />
gamosavali viTarebidan, rodesac<br />
aTeulobiT aTasi qarTveli,<br />
galisa da axalgoris raionebSi,<br />
separatistebsa da maT patronebs<br />
mZevlebad hyavT qceuli. aqve davakvirdeT<br />
sistemur msgavsebas giga<br />
oTxozoriasa da arCil tatuna-<br />
Svilis „qeisebs” Soris: orive iZulebuli<br />
iyo(!), regularulad gadasuliyo<br />
okupirebul teritoriaze,<br />
anu mcxeTaSi an zugdidSi<br />
„gadmosvla” vinmes mosataceblad<br />
mtris specsamsaxurebs ar sWirdebaT.<br />
realurad, „hibriduli omi”<br />
grZeldeba, maT Soris, amgvari me-<br />
Todebis gamoyenebiT.<br />
_ samomavlo prevenciazec vi-<br />
saubroT: ra SeiZleba davTmoT, an<br />
SevTavazoT separatistul reJim-<br />
ebs imisTvis, rom msgavsi xasiaTis<br />
provokaciebi da tragikuli fa-<br />
qtebi Tavidan aviciloT? Tu sae-<br />
rTod umjobesia, garkveulwilad,<br />
SevicvaloT midgomebi da Cveni<br />
pozicia ufro mkacri gaxdes? Tu-<br />
mca ras gulisxmobs es simkacre,<br />
esec gasarkvevia...<br />
_ realobis mTeli tragikulobac<br />
isaa, rom separatistebic da<br />
moskovic viTarebis stabilizebisa<br />
da amgvari provokaciebis Sewyvetis<br />
sanacvlod moiTxoven absoluturad<br />
miuRebels: saqarTvelos<br />
mier okupirebul teritoriaTa<br />
„aRiarebas”, Semdeg maTTan xelSekrulebebis<br />
gaformebas da am<br />
xelSekrulebebis qcevas „sistemur”<br />
faqtorad Cveni qveynis momavali,<br />
viTomdac, „nebayoflobi-<br />
Ti” gawevrebisa „evraziul kavSir-<br />
Si”! swored amas moiTxovda mudam<br />
da axlac moiTxovs saqarTvelosgan<br />
putini. verc afxaz da verc os<br />
separatistebs sxvas verafers „SevTavazebT”<br />
maTTvis misaRebs.<br />
erTaderTi imedi isaa, rom, bo-<br />
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`arCil tatunaSvilis mkvleloba "fsb"-s dagegmilia Tu ara, imaze nakleb<br />
mniSvnelovani ar aris, vidre faqti: danaSauli ganxorcielda ara rusi,<br />
aramed osi separatistebis xeliT. am ukanasknelTa "jalaTuri<br />
profesionalizmi" kolegebisas ver swvdeba. amas imitom vambob, rom<br />
kvlavindeburad uryevad var darwmunebuli: am etapze arCilis dapatimreba<br />
iyo dagegmili da ara misi mkvleloba! mokles imitom, rom, maTTvis<br />
moulodnelad, winaaRmdegoba gauwia da ver gatexes~<br />
los da bolos, evroatlantikuri<br />
Tanamegobroba erTgvari... dabneulobisa<br />
Tu yoymanis mdgomareobidan<br />
gamova, „hibriduli omis”<br />
safrTxeebs adekvaturad Seafasebs<br />
da saqarTvelosac aqcevs moskovTan<br />
principuli urTierTqmedebis<br />
erT-erT mniSvnelovan<br />
Temad, rac, samwuxarod, dRemde ar<br />
xdeba.<br />
mtknari sicruea, TiTqos, Tavdapirvelad,<br />
pirvel wlebSi omis<br />
Semdeg, saqarTvelos Tema prevalirebda<br />
da mxolod bolo dros<br />
gaqra ruseT-dasavleTis dRis wesrigidan.<br />
sinamdvileSi, 2008 wlis<br />
oqtombridan dawyebuli arc erT<br />
dasavlel liders, arc erT maRali<br />
donis saerTaSoriso samitze an<br />
ruseTis xelmZRvanelebTan Sexvedrebisas<br />
Tu erTobliv preskonferenciaze<br />
„saqarTvelo” saerTod<br />
ar uxsenebia. erTaderTi gamonaklisia<br />
barak obama, romelmac<br />
2009 wlis gazafxulze prezident<br />
medvedevTan Sexvedris Semdeg gamarTul<br />
erTobliv preskonferenciaze<br />
Tqva: „amerika da ruseTi ver<br />
Tanxmdebian saqarTvelos sazRvrebze”.<br />
es iyo da es. terminebi „okupacia”<br />
da „aneqsia” mas aRar gauxmovanebia.<br />
_ ra unda gavakeToT Seqmnil<br />
viTarebaSi?<br />
_ is, rac namdvilad SegviZlia<br />
da rac Cvenzea damokidebuli: ganvaviTaroT<br />
demokratiuli sistema,<br />
adamianis uflebebi, sityvis Tavisufleba,<br />
pluralizmi, mravalpartiuloba,<br />
xelisuflebis arCevi-<br />
Toba da cvalebadoba... ise, rom<br />
nebismieri Tavdasxma saqarTveloze,<br />
nebismieri provokacia dasavleTSi<br />
aRiqmebodes, rogorc mis<br />
dasavlur Rirebulebebze, dasavlur<br />
civilizaciaze Seteva, anu<br />
Seteva „patara demokratiaze”. amiT<br />
moipoves baltiis qveynebma usafrTxoebis<br />
garantiebi da bolos<br />
gawevriandnen kidec Crdiloatlantikur<br />
aliansSi.<br />
amitomacaa aucilebeli, bolos<br />
da bolos, pasuxi gaeces absoluturad<br />
legitimur kiTxvebs muxTarlis<br />
saqmeze, Sewydes sruliad<br />
uperspeqtivo mcdeloba, rogorme<br />
„gaCumdes” kritikuli an, Tundac,<br />
zekritikuli televizia, gaRaribdes<br />
komerciuli media myife sareklamo<br />
bazarze 50-milioniani sabiujeto<br />
„spilos” SemoSvebiT da<br />
a. S.<br />
sxva resursi, garda demokratiuli<br />
imijisa, saqarTvelos ar gaa-<br />
Cnia: Cven unda viyoT ganviTarebuli,<br />
Tundac, „patara demokratia”.<br />
mxolod esaa axali agresiisa da<br />
kidev ufro mZime provokaciebis<br />
Tavidan acilebis „instrumenti”.<br />
iseve, rogorc evroatlantikur<br />
sivrceSi integraciis, maT Soris,<br />
NATO-Si gawevrebis mudmivi aspiracia.<br />
_ NATO axseneT da aqve natos<br />
mowinaaRmdegeTa pozicias gagax-<br />
senebT: am adamianebs me wiTel<br />
sabWoTa inteligencias vuwodeb,<br />
romlebmac sruliad erTmniSvnelovnad<br />
ganacxades, rom Turme<br />
nato gvaferxebs da is safrTx-<br />
ec ki aris.<br />
_ maT ararelevantur poziciaze<br />
am wuTas arc Rirs yuradRebis<br />
gamaxvileba, radgan saidan<br />
uberavs es sio, aSkaraa. dRes ararealuric<br />
rom iyos NATO-Si sruluflebiani<br />
wevroba, TavisTavad<br />
aseTi swrafva, misi mudmivi deklarireba,<br />
sxvadasxva proeqtTa<br />
ganxilva, am Temaze refleqsia,<br />
diskusia, msjeloba, saqarTvelos<br />
dasavluri „dRis wesrigisa” da<br />
narativis nawilad aqcevs, aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, qmnis usafrTxoebis<br />
garkveul garantiebs, radgan zrdis<br />
Cvens partniorTa pasuxismgeblobis<br />
xarisxs saqarTvelos mimarT.<br />
srulyofilad vera, samwuxarod,<br />
magram garkveuli xarisxiT _<br />
namdvilad.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, xelisu-<br />
fleba da qarTuli sazogadoeba<br />
ufro mtkice da Tanmimdevruli<br />
rom yofiliyo giga oTxozorias<br />
mkvlelobis Semdeg, iyo Tu ara<br />
SesaZlebeli am faqtis Tavidan<br />
acileba, Tu es is mimarTulebaa,<br />
sadac ruseTis qmedebebis prog-<br />
nozireba SeuZlebelia? erTi<br />
metad uxerxuli kiTxvac gamiCn-<br />
da, _ am an analogiuri faqtebiT<br />
xom ar xdeba qarTuli sazogadoe-<br />
bis erTianobis, problemisadmi<br />
damokidebulebis mosinjva-tes-<br />
tireba? vgulisxmob imas, rom xom<br />
ar gvamowmeben, SegviZlia Tu ara<br />
analogiuri da ufro mniSvnelovani<br />
krizisebis dros gaerTiane-<br />
ba?<br />
_ am kiTxvis pasuxad SemiZlia<br />
mxolod gavimeoro Tqvenive Tezisebi,<br />
_ zustad amas cdiloben,<br />
zustad am mizans isaxaven, zustad<br />
esaa maTi mizani: moipovon berketebi<br />
saqarTveloSi politikuri vi-<br />
Tarebis samarTavad.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, nurc imas daviviwyebT,<br />
rom ramdenime Tvis Semdeg<br />
saqarTveloSi saprezidento arCevnebia,<br />
xolo is, vinc fiqrobs,<br />
TiTqos am arCevnebs aranairi mniSvneloba<br />
ar aqvs, raki prezidenti<br />
ceremoniul figurad gviqcies<br />
2010 wlis Sesworebebis Sesabamisad,<br />
iseve cdeba, rogorc is, visac<br />
„konspiracia” egona da dResac<br />
hgonia, rom moskovSi namdvilad<br />
arseboben institutebi, „laboratoriebi”,<br />
romlebic specializeburad<br />
swored saqarTveloze da<br />
sxva mezobel qveynebze „muSaoben”:<br />
akvirdebian, zomaven, Tvlian, cdian,<br />
zogjer sisxlian Tu usisxlo<br />
provokaciebs axorcieleben, sainformacio<br />
diversiebs awyoben da a.<br />
S.<br />
es aris xalxi, romelic amaSi<br />
iRebs xelfass. es maTi profesiaa.<br />
winaaRmdegobis gasawevad ki, minimum,<br />
aseTive profesionalebi unda<br />
viyoT.<br />
_ dabolos, Cven araerTxel<br />
wamovegeT separatistebis mzakvrul<br />
nabijebs, araerTxel mogvi-<br />
wia ukan daxeva da araerTxel Sev-<br />
afaseT movlenebi araadekvatur-<br />
ad. kidev ra safrTxeebs xedavT<br />
arsebul viTarebaSi, rodesac kv-<br />
lav TiTqos Senelebulia mcocavi<br />
okupaciis talRa, magram omi re-<br />
alurad grZeldeba?<br />
_ yvelaze didi safrTxe isaa,<br />
rom putini, rogorc Cans, uaxloes<br />
momavalSi apirebs va bankze wasvlas<br />
mezobel saxelmwifoebTan mimarTebiT.<br />
amaze metyvelebs misi<br />
bolo „prezentacia”, rodesac aSkarad<br />
daemuqra dasavleTs ukve<br />
ara mxolod „civi” an „hibriduli”<br />
omiT, aramed birTvuli iaraRiT,<br />
romelic pirdapir, ueWvelad ar-<br />
Rvevs bolo 40-50 wlis manZilze<br />
miRweul yvela SeTanxmebas strategiuli<br />
SeiaraRebis Semcirebisa<br />
Tu SezRudvis dargSi. es saerTod<br />
gaugonari ramaa.<br />
magaliTad, birTvulZraviani da<br />
arabirTvulmuxtiani „frTosani<br />
raketebi”, romelTa Seqmna „orjer<br />
oris” sizustiT da ueWvelobiT<br />
angrevs epoqalur xelSekrulebas<br />
„saSualo da naklebi siSoris raketaTa<br />
akrZalvis” Sesaxeb.<br />
oRond es namdvilad ar aris<br />
moulodneli mas Semdeg, rac 2014<br />
wels aseTive sizustiT da aseve<br />
„upasuxod” dairRva aranakleb<br />
mniSvnelovani „budapeStis memorandumi”,<br />
romelic ukrainas usafrTxoebis<br />
garantiebs aniWebda<br />
birTvul iaraRze uaris Tqmis sanacvlod.<br />
imedi viqonioT, Cven ar viciT<br />
(ki batono, nu gvecodineba), Torem,<br />
sinamdvileSi, dasavleTs aqvs<br />
konsolidirebuli gegma, rogor<br />
upasuxis mzard agresias, Tu agresori<br />
metismetad Sors „Setopavs”,<br />
Tumca... amaze „Sors” sadRa unda<br />
Setopos, es dRes, TiTqos, warmoudgenladac<br />
migvaCnia Cvenc da<br />
Cvens mokavSireebsac.<br />
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omlebi Tavxedurad da jiqur<br />
iTxoven xelfasebis gaormagebas,<br />
metic: paradoqsuli, gaug-<br />
onari ram xdeboda _ ificeba<br />
mTavroba, mitings uwyobs opo-<br />
zicias...<br />
_ borjomis garda yvela sxva<br />
raionSi, sakrebuloebSi umravlesoba<br />
hyavs „qarTul ocnebas”<br />
da rasac unda, imas akeTebs: xlfasebsac<br />
izrdian, Statebsac<br />
beraven, visac unda, imas niSnaven,<br />
visac unda, imas aTavisufleben.<br />
borjomSi ar hyavT umravlesoba<br />
da vxedavT, rac xdeba,<br />
_ sakrebulos zustad imitom<br />
daupirispirdnen, rom maT<br />
interesebs ar atareben. ki gai-<br />
Zaxian, adamianebze mzrunveli<br />
mTavroba movediT, erTaderTi<br />
varT, vinc xalxze zrunavso, magram,<br />
realurad, zrunaven mxolod<br />
sakuTar jibeze da pirad<br />
keTildReobaze da xalxi saer-<br />
Tod ar ainteresebT. ukve wlebia<br />
vxedavT, rogor icvlian avtomanqanebs,<br />
kompiuterebs, savarZlebs,<br />
daseirnoben sazRvargareT,<br />
biujetis xarjze Wamen,<br />
biujetis xarjze svamen, magram<br />
rodesac saqme midgeba pensiebis<br />
zrdaze, sxvadasxva uwyebis<br />
rigiTi TanamSromlebis xelfasebis<br />
zrdaze, arafers akeTeben,<br />
kapiksac ar imeteben. policielebs<br />
ramdeni xania, xelfasi<br />
ar gazrdiaT, ra motivacia<br />
unda hqondes adamians, rodesac<br />
xedavs, rogor mdidrdebian Cinovnikebi<br />
da TviTon aranairi<br />
SeRavaTi ar aqvs?<br />
_ borjomis sakrebuloSi 11<br />
wevri „patriotTa aliansidanaa”,<br />
swored maT gamo aqvs pro-<br />
blemebi „qarTul ocnebas” bo-<br />
rjomSi, arada, sul imaze iyo<br />
apelireba, „patriotTa alia-<br />
nsi” „ocnebis” satelitiao. ra<br />
moxda, sufTa haeri ar mouxda<br />
maT satelitobas?<br />
_ sakrebulos Tavmjdomarem<br />
srulad aiRo pasuxismgebloba,<br />
rom ar moematebina xelfasebi<br />
givi kublaSvili<br />
meriis TanamSromlebisTvis,<br />
romlebsac isedac amxela xelfasebi<br />
aqvT, magram ra moxda<br />
Semdeg dReebSi? „patriotTa<br />
aliansis” lidrebma ganacxades,<br />
rom ar erevian maT saqmeSi, realurad<br />
maT Tavisi partiis adgilobriv<br />
warmomadgenlebs uganes,<br />
aRar dauWires mxari politikurad<br />
da sakrebulos Tavmjdomare<br />
qocebs Seatoves. warmoidgineT,<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomarem,<br />
xalxis interesebidan<br />
gamomdinare, amxela pasuxismgebloba<br />
aiRo da partiis<br />
liderebi eubnebian, rac ginda<br />
is qeni, Cven ar viciTo. arada,<br />
nebismieri opoziciuri partia<br />
unda idges erT azrze, rom arafriT<br />
ar SeiZleba imis gakeTeba,<br />
rasac borjomis meria iTxovs.<br />
gamodian „patriotebi” da<br />
gaiZaxian, rac undaT, is uqniaT<br />
Cveni saqme ar ariso. vfiqrob,<br />
misasalmebelia is nabiji, rac<br />
batonma CaCaniZem gadadga, magram<br />
veranairad mivesalmebi<br />
misi liderebis qmedebas.<br />
_ borjomSi im aqciebis<br />
dros wina planze iyvnen meri-<br />
is Cinovniki qalebi, romlebic<br />
agresiulobiT gamoirCeodnen<br />
da moqmedebdnen, rogorc „tituSkebi”.<br />
Statebis aseTi gab-<br />
erva, xelfasebis aseTi zrda<br />
xom ar emsaxureba swored imas,<br />
rom biZina ivaniSvils sWirde-<br />
ba raRac damrtymeli Zala,<br />
romelsac „tituSkebad” gam-<br />
oiyenebs opoziciis aqciebis<br />
dros fizikuri angariSswore-<br />
bisTvis, opoziciaze misaqse-<br />
vad? policias, specrazms ki<br />
ar daarbevinebs mitingebs,<br />
aramed am Cinovnikebs. parale-<br />
lurad ki igive xalxis xmebs<br />
gamoiyenebs arCevnebze. sxvanairad,<br />
auxsnelia, ratom be-<br />
raven ase Statebs da ratom<br />
aRizianeben xalxs maTi xel-<br />
fasebis zrdiT?<br />
_ cxadia, eg mizani aqvT. specialurad<br />
magisTvis gaberes<br />
Statebi, mTeli partaqtivi<br />
mirekes, xelfasebs uzrdian da<br />
raSic dasWirdebaT, imaSi gamoiyeneben:<br />
xan xmis misacemad,<br />
xan mase sawiokod. zustad magaSi<br />
uxdian xelfasebs, Torem<br />
romeli maTgani gamoirCeva gonebrivi<br />
SesaZleblobebiT, codniT,<br />
gamocdilebiT? saxelm-<br />
`qarTulma ocnebam~<br />
TviTmmarTvelobebi<br />
araprofesionali,<br />
ucodinari xalxis<br />
TavSesafrebad aqcia,<br />
romlebsac xmis misacemad<br />
da `tituSkebad~<br />
gamoiyenebs. maTi<br />
kvalifikacia kargad<br />
gamoCnda im<br />
gadawyvetilebebSi,<br />
romelic miiRes ager<br />
xulosa da xaSurSi,<br />
aeroportisa da metros<br />
dasufTavebis mosakrebeli<br />
daaweses. Tbilisidan aqvT<br />
yvelaferi<br />
gadakopirebuli, TviTon<br />
arafers akeTeben~<br />
wifo samsaxurSi muSaobis gamocdileba<br />
romels aqvs? _ arc<br />
erTs! specialurad hyavT miyvanili,<br />
sadac dasWirdebaT, roca<br />
dasWirdebaT, iq dauZaxeben,<br />
Sen amaSi xelfass gixdian, moxval<br />
da dadgebi aq, Tu ar dadgebi<br />
da wadi samsaxuridan. yvela<br />
raionSi gaberilia Statebi,<br />
damatebulia ssipebi da aaipebi,<br />
iseTi saxelwodebiT, verc warmoidgenT.<br />
da es ssipebi da aaipebi<br />
gatenilia maTi partaqtiviT<br />
da momxreebiT. am adamianebs,<br />
cxadia, etyvian, unda moxvide<br />
da xma misce „ocnebaso”. Tan<br />
akontroleben.<br />
_ romc ar uTxran da romc<br />
ar akontrolon, maTive interesSicaa<br />
am xelisuflebis SenarCuneba,<br />
rom Tavadac Sein-<br />
arCunon es daumsaxureblad<br />
miRebuli samsaxuri da, praq-<br />
tikulad, araferSi gadaxdili<br />
xelfasi.<br />
_ ki da vinmes aqvs imis iluzia,<br />
rom amaT an saxelmwifos<br />
problemebi awuxebT, an socialurad<br />
daucvelebis? araferic<br />
ar ainteresebT, garda imisa,<br />
rom TviTon iyvnen kargad<br />
saxelmwifos xarjze. Cven vnaxeT,<br />
rom araTu rigiTi Cinovnikebi,<br />
borjomis gamgebelic ki<br />
„tituSkasaviT” moqmedebda, parlamentis<br />
deputats, melias<br />
laCrulad uknidan miepara da<br />
Caartya xeli da ra gancxadebebi<br />
akeTes „ocnebis” parlamentarebma?<br />
ki ar dagmes an is ki<br />
ar Tqves, rogor gabeda gamgebelma<br />
parlamentarze xelis aweva,<br />
piriqiT, melia gaakritikes,<br />
_ saerTod ratom Caxvedio?<br />
rogorc vxedavT, Cinovnikebis<br />
„tituSkoba” waxalisebulia centraluri<br />
xelisuflebis mier.<br />
_ ravici, lorTqifaniZes<br />
erTi Rili mowyvites da biWe-<br />
bi cixeSi Cayares.<br />
_ Rilic ar mouglejia aravis,<br />
ubralod, xmis gamaZlierebeli,<br />
rupori moiqnies, arc<br />
moxvedria mas. ai, am ZiZgilaobaSi<br />
bodiSi, rom mas pijaki daeWmuWna.<br />
amis gamo biWebi daWerili<br />
hayvdaT cixeSi da aq, kadrebSi<br />
Cans, rogor epareba da<br />
urtyams bakurianis gamgebeli<br />
parlamentars da aranairi reagireba<br />
araa. piriqiT, honorze<br />
iyo, 112-Si davreke, mova policia<br />
da yvelafers vetyvio. mokled,<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam” TviTmmarTvelobebi<br />
araprofesionali,<br />
ucodinari xalxis TavSesafrebad<br />
aqcia, romlebsac xmis<br />
misacemad da „tituSkebad” gamoiyenebs.<br />
maTi kvalifikacia kargad<br />
gamoCnda im gadawyvetilebebSi,<br />
romelic miiRes ager<br />
xulosa da xaSurSi, aeroportisa<br />
da metros dasufTavebis<br />
mosakrebeli daaweses. Tbilisidan<br />
aqvT yvelaferi gadakopirebuli,<br />
TviTon arafers akeTeben.<br />
_ Tavidan mec ubralod<br />
gadakopirebuli megona, magram<br />
xaSurSi sxva tarifia, xuloSi<br />
_ sxva, anu waikiTxes da ise ga-<br />
daitanes.<br />
_ ki, ifiqres, dedaqalaqis<br />
fasebi ar iyos patara qalaqSio<br />
da fasebi Secvales. imas arc ki<br />
daukvirdnen, rom arc aeroporti<br />
aqvT, arc metro. biujetis<br />
gawera ar ician am adamianebma.<br />
yoveli wlis biujetSi<br />
vxedavT xarvezebs. es xarvezebi<br />
gamowveulia rogorc maTi<br />
uvicobiT, ise maTi momxveWelobiTac.<br />
prokuraturam da auditma<br />
aucileblad unda Seiswavlon<br />
Tbilisis yvela raionis<br />
gamgeobis saqmianoba. xSir<br />
SemTxvevaSi, vTqvaT, rasac gegmaven<br />
2017 wels, wlis bolos<br />
amboben, rom Seasrules, magram<br />
2018 wlis biujetSi isev Tavidan<br />
iTxoven dafinansebas igive<br />
saqmis gasakeTeblad. anu arc im<br />
wels SeusrulebiaT da darwmunebuli<br />
var, arc am wels Seasruleben.<br />
im fuls realurad<br />
Wamen da Semdeg isev Tavidan<br />
iTxoven. Tu ambob, rom rac bi-<br />
12<br />
`qarTulma ocnebam" moaxerxa opoziciuri<br />
partiebis, gansakuTrebiT "nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis" demonizeba. rogorc ki vinme<br />
protests gamoxatavs, maSinve akereben<br />
"nacionalis" iarliys. arada, adamiani<br />
SeiZleba saerTod arc erTi partiis<br />
mxardamWeri ar iyos da protesti hqondes,<br />
magram rogorc ki gamoxatavs, mzad aqvT<br />
iarliyi: "es "nacionali" yofila~<br />
12 N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.
N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`tituSkebad~ iyenebs~<br />
ujetSi gawerili gqonda, Seasrule,<br />
maSin raRatom iTxov<br />
fuls igive saqmeze momdevno<br />
wels? aba, sxva ras niSnavs es,<br />
Tu ara imas, rom ar gagikeTebia<br />
araferi da isev iTxov<br />
fuls? an gasakeTeblad, an isev<br />
ise SesaWmelad, rogorc wina<br />
wels SeWame? magaliTad, iTxoven<br />
dafinansebas konkretul<br />
misamarTze asfaltis dasagebad.<br />
wlis bolos weren, rom es<br />
samuSao Seasrules _ daages asfalti<br />
aRniSnul misamarTze,<br />
magram momdevno wlis biujet-<br />
Si isev iTxoven asfaltis dasagebad<br />
fuls, zustad am misamarTze!<br />
xom ar ggoniaT, rom<br />
erTi welia, ase xdeba? oTxi welia,<br />
ase xdeba. ramdenime misamarTi<br />
aris aRebuli, romelzedac<br />
yovel weliwads iTxoven<br />
fuls asfaltis dasagebad. nebismiers<br />
miviyvan im adgilas da<br />
vanaxeb, Tu aris iq raime gakeTebeuli.<br />
amiT unda dainteresdes<br />
auditi, prokuratura.<br />
_ amas winaT dokumenti<br />
gaasajaroveT, saidanac irkveva,<br />
rom kalaZes erT TefS Te-<br />
vzis asortSi gadaxdili aqvs<br />
200 lari, saubaria biujetis<br />
xarjze gadaxdil 20 aTas lar-<br />
ian sufraze.<br />
_ es iyo 200-kaciani sufra.<br />
gasagebia, rom mowveuli iyvnen<br />
sxvadasxva donis stumrebi, es<br />
gavigeT, magram katastrofaa,<br />
rodesac erT TefS yvelis asortiSi<br />
ixdi as lars da erT<br />
TefS Tevzis asortiSi ixdi oras<br />
lars, maSin rodesac yoveldRiurad<br />
vxedavT ojaxebs, romlebic<br />
pursac ver yiduloben.<br />
mis nacvlad me mrcxvenia, adamians<br />
Tavi moaqvs, rom aris<br />
moduri, Segnebuli, unda, rom<br />
yvelaze da yvelaferze mzrunvelis<br />
saxeli erqvas da realurad<br />
ras akeTebs? _ biujetis<br />
xarjze awyobs aseT qeifebs.<br />
cota naklebfasiani rom yofiliyo,<br />
ra moxdeboda? vis aoceb<br />
am Zvirfasi TevzeuliT? ki<br />
batono, ra problema iqneboda,<br />
Cven rom aq vcxovrobdeT kuveitiviT,<br />
magram rodesac qveyanaSi<br />
xalxi SimSilobs da mosaxleobis<br />
umetesobas uWirs elementarulad<br />
sakvebi fulis mopoveba,<br />
ara mgonia, imis fufuneba<br />
gvqondes, rom 200 lari vixadoT<br />
erT TefS Tevzis asortiSi.<br />
_ problemebi aqvs matareblebs.<br />
rodesac isini SemohyavdaT,<br />
Tqven werdiT, rom es matareblebi<br />
ar iyo am manZile-<br />
bze, am qveyanaze gaTvlili.<br />
_ es matareblebi Cveni reliefisTvis<br />
araa Sesaferisi da<br />
gaTvlilia mgzavrebis mokle<br />
manZilebze gadasayvanad. magaliTad,<br />
mgzavrebis aeroportebidan<br />
qalaqis centrebamde gadayvana.<br />
Tanac am matareblebis<br />
daniSnuleba aris mgzavrebis<br />
swrafad gadayvana, misi saSualo<br />
siCqare unda iyos 100-120<br />
kilometri saaTSi. saqarTve-<br />
`rodesac "bavSvTa samyaro" daiwva da<br />
dazaralebulebma bevri ilaparakes<br />
televiziebTan, am xelisuflebis mier daisajnen<br />
kidec. sanam protesti ar gamoTqves da aqciebi ar<br />
moawyves, maTTan arc narmania da arc vinme<br />
mivida Sexvedraze, rom gaegoT, ra problemebi<br />
hqondaT, anazRaureba ki ara, daTvlazec uars<br />
eubnebodnen, bolos ra miiRes? sami aTasi lariT<br />
daexmarnen da uTxres, "nacionalebTan" erTad<br />
gviwyobdiT aqciebs, imaT wisqvilze asxamdiT<br />
wyals da Cvengan iTxovT daxmarebaso?~<br />
loSi ra tempiT moZraobs? 40<br />
kilometrsaaTi, imitom rom<br />
Cveni mTagoriani reliefi ar<br />
iZleva meti siCqaris ganviTarebis<br />
saSualebas. unda iyos swori,<br />
pirdapir mimavali gza, maqsimum<br />
ramdenime mixvev-moxveviT,<br />
isic araumetes 15 gradusiani<br />
mosaxveviT. mag SemTxveva-<br />
Si aviTarebs am siCqares. garda<br />
amisa, es matareblebi araa ga-<br />
Tvlili Cvens liandagebze _ sabWoTa<br />
periodSi gakeTebul liandagebze.<br />
baqnebis amaRleba<br />
mouwiaT, sadac ver aamaRles,<br />
misadgmeli kibeebis gakeTeba<br />
dasWirdaT gorgolaWebze. usafrTxoebis<br />
garkveuli funqciebi<br />
Caxsnes, programulad ga-<br />
TiSes. amis gamo matarebeli,<br />
romelic srulad kompiuterizebulia,<br />
Tavis saqmianobas ve-<br />
Rar axorcilebes normalurad<br />
da kondicireba ver muSaobs,<br />
xSirad iTiSeba. ra movigeT am<br />
matareblebis yidviT? Tu adre<br />
xuT saaTSi Cadioda Tbilisidan<br />
baTumSi, axla Cadis 4 saaTsa<br />
da 40 wuTSi. imis magivrad,<br />
rom bevri mgzavri gadagveyvana,<br />
mgzavrebis raodenoba ar<br />
Secvlila, _ rac midioda manamde,<br />
igive midis axlac, es matarebeli<br />
mogebas ver naxulobs.<br />
45 milioni dolaria gadaxdili,<br />
am fuls rodis amoi-<br />
Rebs saqarTvelos rkinigza? 20<br />
wuTis gamo Rirda 45 milionis<br />
gadaxda? wesiT, sam saaTSi unda<br />
Cadiodes, magram Cveni reliefis<br />
gamo ver Cadis. ver asrulebs<br />
es matarebeli Tavis funqcias<br />
srulfasovnad, ar aris<br />
amxela manZilze gaTvlili, mouxerxebelia<br />
skamebi, mgzavrebi<br />
wuxdebian. am bolo dros xaSurSi<br />
mouwia ramdenime saaTi<br />
gaCereba da saswrafo saswrafoze<br />
midioda, xalxi cudad gaxda<br />
ventilaciis gamo. rkinigza-<br />
Si uzarmazari problemebia,<br />
rkinigzas Svela sWirdeba, mogebaze<br />
ver gadian, imitom rom<br />
tvirTebis raodenoba da Semosavali<br />
Semcirda. eseni ki xelfass<br />
zrdian! an meore problemasTan<br />
SeiZleba gvqondes saqme,<br />
riTac unda dainteresdes auditi<br />
da prokuratura, xom ar<br />
aris gverdiTi Semosavlebi,<br />
romelic oficialurad ar Cans<br />
da viRacis jibeSi midis? es<br />
yvelaferi sainteresoa da, ra<br />
Tqma unda, prokuratura unda<br />
dainteresdes. magram ra? Seitan<br />
saqmes, Semodeben Taroze.<br />
geubnebian, rom Zieba daviwye-<br />
To, magram aRar grZeldeba. pasuxia:<br />
daelodeT gamoZiebas.<br />
romel gamoZiebas davelodoT,<br />
romelic wlobiT grZeldeba da<br />
arasodes mTavrdeba? Cven gvqonda<br />
aseTi SemTxveva, mivmarTeT<br />
prokuraturas kalaZis colisZmasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, romelmac<br />
Tavisi megobris ori dRis<br />
daarsebul kompanias 100 aTasi<br />
lari gadauricxa Saoris banakis<br />
gaxsna-daxurvis ceremonialisTvis.<br />
viyavi kidec dakiTxvaze,<br />
magram im kompaniis patronisTvis<br />
undodaT saqme<br />
SeetenaT. Sps-s mepatrone Sei-<br />
Zleba daikiTxos, ra pirobebSi<br />
moxda Tanxis gadacema, rogor<br />
gaformda es xelSekruleba, magram<br />
pasuxi unda moeTxovos biujetis<br />
ganmkargvels. vin iyo<br />
gadamricxveli? biujetidan gadaricxvas<br />
Sps TviTon ver gaakeTebda,<br />
amaTma gadauricxes,<br />
xo? axla pasuxi mosTxovo Spss,<br />
biujetidan ratom Cagiricxes<br />
Tanxao, es aris absurdi. aR-<br />
Zres saqme, magram sadaa axla es<br />
saqme? ra Tqma unda, Tarozea<br />
Semodebuli da, albaT, im SemTxvevaSi<br />
gamoiyeneben, kalaZem<br />
Tu maTTvis raime miuRebeli<br />
nabiji gadadga.<br />
_ miuxedavad mZime socialuri-ekonomikuri<br />
problemebisa,<br />
daZabuli politikuri at-<br />
mosferosi, mainc araa mzad<br />
mosaxleoba quCaSi gamosasvlelad,<br />
protestisTvis. am TvalsazrisiT<br />
gansakuTrebiT gulgrilia<br />
Tqveni Taoba, axalgazrdoba.<br />
ratomaa axalgazrdo-<br />
ba ase Caxsnili procesebidan,<br />
ram gamoiwvia es nihilizmi?<br />
_ iman, rom rusuli specsamsaxurebi<br />
Zalian sworad muSaoben.<br />
gaixseneT, ra mesijebs avrceleben<br />
mTeli es bolo wlebi?<br />
rom politikosebi arian<br />
binZurebi, politika aris bin-<br />
Zuri saqme, rom aravin ar zrunavs<br />
xalxze, saxelmwifoze, yvela<br />
zrunavs Tavis Tavze. „ra<br />
ginda politikaSi? moica, ra...”,<br />
„ra ginda aqciaze? moica, ra...”<br />
motivacia Caukles Cems Taobas,<br />
rom procesebSi CarTvis survili<br />
ar gauCndes, Tan am bolo<br />
wlebSi marTlac ver xedaven,<br />
rom xelisuflebaSi myofebidan,<br />
realurad, vinme zrunavdes<br />
qveyanaze. ra motivi unda<br />
hqondes axalgazrdas, rom<br />
politikaSi CaerTos?<br />
_ eg gasagebia, magram es exeba<br />
politikaSi uSualod Car-<br />
Tulobas. erTia, ar gindodes<br />
politikaSi Cabma, magram meorea<br />
protestis qona da gamox-<br />
atva.<br />
_ „qarTulma ocnebam” moaxerxa<br />
opoziciuri partiebis, gansakuTrebiT<br />
„nacionaluri mo-<br />
Zraobis” demonizeba. rogorc<br />
ki vinme protests gamoxatavs,<br />
maSinve akereben „nacionalis”<br />
iarliys. arada, adamiani SeiZleba<br />
saerTod arc erTi partiis<br />
mxardamWeri ar iyos da protesti<br />
hqondes, magram rogorc<br />
ki gamoxatavs, mzad aqvT iarliyi:<br />
„es „nacionali” yofila”.<br />
im kadrebis mere, rac dadges da<br />
gaaSuqes, mTeli im Savi piaris<br />
Semdeg, rac „nacionalebs” ugora<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam” da moaxdina<br />
demonizeba, axalgazrdebs<br />
ar undaT „nacis” iarliyis mikvra.<br />
magram nel-nela gamodian<br />
axalgazrdebi am mdgomareobidan,<br />
ukve aRar ainteresebT, vin<br />
ras ityvis, imitom rom yvela<br />
xedavs, seriozuli problemebis<br />
winaSe dgas qveyana. nel-nela<br />
midis saubari axalgazrdebTan<br />
da axalgazrdebis mxridanac,<br />
rom raRac unda gavakeToT.<br />
imedi maqvs, rom yvela moegeba<br />
gons da yvela dadgeba iq, sadac<br />
saWiroa da erT muStad<br />
Seikvreba.<br />
_ axalgazrdobis mimarT<br />
pretenziebi iyo, rom maT mxolod<br />
narkotikebis Tema awuxebT<br />
da mag Temaze awyoben mx-<br />
olod aqciebs da mag Temaze<br />
gamodian. arada, amas ukiJin-<br />
eben isini, romlebic arc am<br />
Temaze gamodian da arc im Temaze,<br />
rac Tavad awuxebT. erTerTi<br />
pretenzia iyo is, rom ax-<br />
algazrdoba ar aprotestebs<br />
okupacias. axla gaimarTa aqcia<br />
okupaciis winaaRdeg. amjerad<br />
mesijboqsi, lozungebi dai-<br />
wunes...<br />
_ yvela erT azrze verasdros<br />
iqneba da RmerTma dagvifaros,<br />
rom yvela erT azrze<br />
viyoT. yvelas azri da mcdeloba<br />
misaRebia, romelic saerTo<br />
miznamde midis. a punqtamde me<br />
SeiZleba be punqtis gavliT mivide<br />
da sxva ce punqtis gavliT<br />
mivides. me romeli punqtis gavliT<br />
mival _ Cemi gadasawyvetia<br />
da is sxva romeli punqtis gavliT<br />
miva, im sxvis gadasawyvetia.<br />
mTavaria, rom mivideT im a<br />
punqtamde. Cven romeli gziT<br />
mivalT da mivaRwevT Tundac<br />
deokupacias, Tundac tatunaSvilis<br />
cxedris gadmocemas, Tundac<br />
im biWebis ganTavisuflebas,<br />
romlebic tatunaSvilTan<br />
erTad daakaves, ar aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />
magram imas nuravin nu<br />
damiwyebs, rom Cven ruseTTan<br />
megobrobiT mivaRwevT amas.<br />
wlebia vxedavT, aranairi sike-<br />
Te maTTan enis moCleqiT saubars<br />
CvenTvis ar moutania, arc<br />
megobruli urTierTobebis<br />
damyarebas, arc mwvanilis gatanas<br />
da gayidvas. erTaderTi gza<br />
rac dagvrCa, esaa aqtiurad moviTxovoT<br />
saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobas<br />
aqtiuroba, rom<br />
dasavleTi aqtiurad CaerTos<br />
procesebSi da rac SeiZleba<br />
male moxdes ruseTisTvis sanqciebis<br />
daweseba ara marto<br />
yirimis, aramed afxazeTisa da<br />
cxinvalis regionis gamo.<br />
_ kalaZe ramdenime Tvea,<br />
rac dedaqalaqis meria, rogor<br />
fiqrob, aris raime Tvisobrivi<br />
sxvaoba narmanias merobasa da<br />
mis merobas Soris?<br />
_ erTi warmoSobiT kokidan<br />
iyo da meores milanelis statusi<br />
aqvs, Torem ra Seicvala<br />
TbiliselebisTvis?<br />
gagrZeleba me-15 gv.<br />
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saqarTvelo-ruseTis dapirispirebasa<br />
da arCil tatunaSvilis<br />
mkvlelobis Sedegad sazogadoebaSi<br />
arsebul ganwyobebze,<br />
xelisuflebis qmede-<br />
bebsa da arsebul viTarebaSi<br />
saWiro<br />
gadawyvetilebebze<br />
„qronika+~ „nacionaluri moZ-<br />
raobis” erT-erT liders nika<br />
ruruas esaubra:<br />
_ arCil tatunaSvilis ga-<br />
catebisa da mkvlelobis (amaSi<br />
ukve eWvis Setanac SeuZlebelia)<br />
faqtma kidev erTxel gagvaxsena,<br />
rom omi jer ar dasrulebula.<br />
gagvaxsena, aRgvaS-<br />
foTa da ra?<br />
_ am faqtma gagvaxsena erTi<br />
mTavari ram, rom ruseTi mteria<br />
saqarTvelos damoukideblobisa,<br />
suverenitetisa, vaRiarebT<br />
amas Tu ara. Tu simarTles<br />
TvalebSi ar SevxedavT, ruseTi<br />
sakuTar mizans, Cveni demokratiuli<br />
da Tavisufali momavlis<br />
mospobisa, ufro iolad<br />
ganaxorcielebs. mogvexseneba,<br />
rom „kacma Wiri mala, mala, magram<br />
Wirma Tavi ar damalao”.<br />
ase rom droa, sinamdviles Tvalebi<br />
gavusworoT da SevignoT,<br />
_ ruseTisgan Tavdacvis sauke-<br />
Teso meTodi ruseTisTvis principuli<br />
da mtkice winaaRmdegobis<br />
gawevaa.<br />
_ bertold brextis sakmaod<br />
frTiani da damafiqrebeli<br />
fraza: „omi dasrulda, mSvi-<br />
dobis geSinodeT, xalxo!” _<br />
qarTulma sazogadoebam damo-<br />
ukideblobis verc erT etapze<br />
ver gaiazra. arc ki iyo samoqalaqo<br />
omi dasrulebuli, afx-<br />
azeTi afeTqda, Semdeg TiTqos<br />
aRmSenebloba daiwyo da 2008<br />
weli, axla qveyanaSi hibriduli<br />
omi mZvinvarebs da mas saer-<br />
Tod verc ki vamCnevT da ver<br />
vgrZnobT. ra gvWirs da ra<br />
xdeba realurad?<br />
_ bertold brextis gamona-<br />
Tqvami zustad imas niSnavs, rac<br />
axla xdeba _ omi ruseTTan<br />
grZeldeba, oRond sxva meTodebiT<br />
_ konkretulad, hibriduli<br />
omis meTodebiT. saqme is<br />
aris, rom amas xalxi sakuTar<br />
tyavze grZnobs _ ise, rogorc<br />
14<br />
nacia im saministroebisa, vinc<br />
Tavdacvis politika unda SeimuSaos.<br />
aseve, kargi mTavroba am<br />
dros xalxs uxsnis, riT gamoixateba<br />
mtris propaganda da me-<br />
Todebi, rom amiT adamianebi ar<br />
daibnen, panikaSi ar Cavardnen,<br />
ar motyuvdnen da erTmaneTs ar<br />
daupirispirdnen _ swored esaa<br />
rusuli hibriduli teqnologiebis<br />
mizani. amitom xalxma unda<br />
icodes maT Sesaxeb. „ocne-<br />
koka wereTeli<br />
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es yvelaze radikalur SemTxvevaSi<br />
igrZno cxonebulma ar-<br />
Cil tatunaSvilma, magram es ar<br />
adardebs kabinetebSi mokala-<br />
Tebul usindiso da cru xelisuflebas,<br />
vinc sakuTar xelfasebsa<br />
da keTildReobaze fiqrobs<br />
mxolod.<br />
_ ramdenad aris brZolisu-<br />
nariani qarTuli saxelmwifo<br />
am omis sawarmoeblad da saer-<br />
Tod, igrZnoba Tu ara es win-<br />
aaRmdegoba? aqve davZen, araTu<br />
`omi ruseTTan grZeldeba, oRond sxva<br />
meTodebiT - konkretulad, hibriduli omis<br />
meTodebiT. saqme is aris, rom amas xalxi<br />
sakuTar tyavze grZnobs - ise, rogorc es<br />
yvelaze radikalur SemTxvevaSi igrZno<br />
cxonebulma arCil tatunaSvilma, magram es ar<br />
adardebs kabinetebSi mokalaTebul usindiso da<br />
cru xelisuflebas, vinc sakuTar xelfasebsa da<br />
keTildReobaze fiqrobs mxolod~<br />
rigiTi obivateli, xelisu-<br />
flebac ki ar saubrobs imaze,<br />
rom swored am wuTebSic mim-<br />
dinareobs es omi.<br />
_ ideaSi _ Tu saqarTvelo<br />
xelisuflebisa da xalxis er-<br />
TianobiT mobilizebas moaxdens,<br />
Cven diaxac, SegviZlia efeqtiani<br />
winaaRmdegobis gaweva.<br />
qarTul saxelmwifos aqvs imuniteti,<br />
romliTac is Tavs daicavs,<br />
magram amas sWirdeba gonieri,<br />
gambedavi da patrioti<br />
liderSipi, romelic axlandel<br />
xelisuflebaSi, saubedurod,<br />
ar arsebobs. es sul ar mixaria,<br />
bunebrivia. axla sazogadoebam,<br />
samoqalaqo seqtorma da politikurma<br />
opoziciam unda Seasrulos<br />
es valdebuleba qveynis<br />
nika rurua:<br />
dacvisa, raxan xelisufleba<br />
amas ar akeTebs. sxva gza araa.<br />
_ am omSi dapirispirebis<br />
formebsa da meTodebze vi-<br />
saubroT. realurad ras unda<br />
akeTebdes saxelmwifo, rogori<br />
unda iyos misi strategia da<br />
taqtika?<br />
_ minimum, saxelmwifo am<br />
dros ar unda auqmebdes orive<br />
uSiSroebis sabWos, rogorc es<br />
„ocnebam” Caidina, radgan swored<br />
am uwyebaSi xdeba koordi-<br />
ba” amis magvars arafers akeTebs<br />
saxelmwifos mdgradobisa<br />
da xalxis cnobierebis dasacavad.<br />
_ cxadze ucxadesia, rom<br />
Cven ar gvaqvs saerTo erovnuli<br />
idea, romlis garSemoc SesaZlebeli<br />
iqneboda gaerTianeba.<br />
imave ruseTs Tavisi neoim-<br />
perialituri politika aqvs,<br />
romelic Zalmomreobas efu-<br />
Zneba, magram es rusi xalxis<br />
idead iqca da mentalur rao-<br />
`Tavdacvis saukeTeso<br />
meTodi ruseTisTvis<br />
principuli da mtkice<br />
winaaRmdegobis<br />
gawevaa~<br />
bamdec ki davida. Cven ar gvaqvs<br />
idea, romelic hqonda ger-<br />
manias meore msoflio omis<br />
Semdeg, an omiTa da atomuri<br />
ieriSiT gaCanagebul iaponias.<br />
idea, romelic icocxlebda<br />
xelisuflebebis cvlis miuxedavad<br />
da qarTuli saxelmwi-<br />
fos warmatebis kodi gaxdebo-<br />
da. saidan unda movides es<br />
idea da vin unda SesTavazos<br />
qveynis mosaxleobas igi?<br />
_ Zalian kargi kiTxvaa. Cemi<br />
azriT, aseTi gamaerTianebeli<br />
ideis garSemo konsolidaciis<br />
gareSe Znelia suverenobis SenarCunebac<br />
ki, araTu ganviTareba<br />
da gaZliereba. es idea ki<br />
Cveni didi mamuliSvilebis naazrevSi<br />
unda veZeboT; Cveni<br />
damfuZnebeli mamebis naSromeb-<br />
Si: ilia WavWavaZis, iakob gogebaSvilis,<br />
vaJa-fSavelas, niko<br />
nikolaZis, arCil jorjaZisa da<br />
magvarTa publicistikaSi. isini<br />
arian Tanamedrove, evropuli<br />
da Tavisufali saqarTvelos<br />
ideis saTaveebTan mdgomi xalxi<br />
da STagonebac maTi nafiqralidan<br />
da naRvawidan unda gamovadnoT.<br />
es umoklesi gzaa ase-<br />
Ti gamaerTianebeli, gasagebi da<br />
konsensusis Seqmnis Zalis mqone<br />
ideis mignebisa. principSi, Cven<br />
is intuiciis doneze viciT, magram<br />
am grZnobas aucilebelia,<br />
sityvebi davadoT. me Tu mkiTxavT,<br />
es idea, zogadad, am sityvebiT<br />
gamoixateba: erovnuli<br />
Tavisufleba, demokratia da<br />
modernizacia, anu intensiuri<br />
ganviTareba. magram am sityveb-<br />
Si didi da Rrma informaciaa<br />
davanebuli da saWiroa, is sruliad<br />
SevignoT da SevisisxlxorcoT.<br />
_ im pirobebSi, rodesac<br />
ruseTis Careva aSS-is an Tun-<br />
dac safrangeTis arCevnebSi<br />
ukve aravisTvis iwvevs eWvs,<br />
rogor fiqrobT, ramdenad aris<br />
mosalodneli xelebis faTuri<br />
saqarTvelos sapreziden-<br />
to arCevnebSi da ra formiT?<br />
_ axla ukve eWvs ar iwvevs,<br />
rom ruseTi ara marto momaval<br />
arCevnebSi Caereva hibriduli<br />
meTodebiT _ WorebiT, cil-<br />
`xelisufleba garda imisa, rom korumpirebuli da uvicia, is utvinocaa,<br />
radgan ar ismens im signalebs, romlebic, wesiT, mas unda uxarodes.<br />
amitomac is veRarafer sasikeTos veRar gaakeTebs. Tumca "veRar"<br />
arasworia, radgan mas sasikeTo araferi gaukeTebia qveynisTvis, Zalian<br />
mcire gamonaklisebis garda, rac aq arc aris mosatani. ruseTi amiT, ra<br />
Tqma unda, sargeblobs da misgan Setevebs yvela mimarTulebiT unda<br />
velodoT. sabednierod, am brZolaSi axla martoebi ar varT, rogorc<br />
2008 wels da mTelma Tavisufalma samyarom Seigno, rom ruseTi<br />
egzistenciur safrTxes warmoadgens misTvisac, im formiT, rogori<br />
ruseTic axla putinis mmarTvelobis qveSaa. axla fsonebi Zalian maRalia<br />
da ruseTi aucileblad damarcxdeba Tavisufal samyarosTan WidilSi.<br />
Cven istoriis swor mxares vdgavarT da gamarjvebulebi viqnebiT. amisTvis<br />
saWiroa erToba, mxneoba da gambedaoba~<br />
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iswamebiT, trolebiT, dezinformaciiT,<br />
organizebuli dana-<br />
Saulis gamoyenebiT, _ aramed<br />
man es 2012 welsac gaakeTa. Cven<br />
amas erTiani sazogadoebrivi da<br />
opoziciuri frontiT unda davupirispirdeT,<br />
vamxiloT yvela<br />
gamovlineba, radgan xelisufleba,<br />
visi pirdapiri valdebulebacaa<br />
qmedeba, amas Segnebulad<br />
ar akeTebs. es danaSaulia<br />
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`kargi mTavroba am dros xalxs uxsnis, riT<br />
gamoixateba mtris propaganda da meTodebi,<br />
rom amiT adamianebi ar daibnen, panikaSi ar<br />
Cavardnen, ar motyuvdnen da erTmaneTs ar<br />
daupirispirdnen - swored esaa rusuli<br />
hibriduli teqnologiebis mizani. amitom<br />
xalxma unda icodes maT Sesaxeb. "ocneba" amis<br />
magvars arafers akeTebs saxelmwifos<br />
mdgradobisa da xalxis cnobierebis dasacavad~<br />
qveynis winaSe da „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
istoriaSi swored ase samarcxvinod<br />
Sedis. vimeoreb, es<br />
ar mixaria, radgan es cudia am<br />
qveynisTvisac _ Cveni mravaltanjuli<br />
saqarTvelosTvis. magram<br />
swored saqarTvelosTvis<br />
unda CamovarTvaT qveynis mar-<br />
Tvis sadaveebi dRevandel kolaboracionist<br />
xelisuflebas<br />
da qveyana jansaRi ganviTarebis<br />
gzaze gaviyvanoT. axla is<br />
stagnaciaSia da amas yvela xedavs,<br />
vinc Tavs ar isulelebs da<br />
ar xeirobs qveynis dangrevis<br />
xarjze.<br />
_ dabolos, xelisuflebas ar<br />
uyvars arc rCevebi, arc safrTxeebze<br />
miTiTeba. amis miuxedavad,<br />
ra prognozebis gakeTeba<br />
SeiZleba arsebuli viTarebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT? samomav-<br />
lod sad da romeli mimarTulebiT<br />
unda velodoT morig Set-<br />
evebs „erTmorwmune” „ufrosi<br />
Zmisgan” da rogor SevamciroT<br />
mosalodneli safrTxeebi?<br />
_ xelisufleba garda imisa,<br />
rom korumpirebuli da uvicia,<br />
is utvinocaa, radgan ar ismens<br />
im signalebs, romlebic, wesiT,<br />
mas unda uxarodes. amitomac is<br />
veRarafer sasikeTos veRar gaakeTebs.<br />
Tumca „veRar” arasworia,<br />
radgan mas sasikeTo araferi<br />
gaukeTebia qveynisTvis, Zalian<br />
mcire gamonaklisebis garda, rac<br />
aq arc aris mosatani. ruseTi amiT,<br />
ra Tqma unda, sargeblobs da<br />
misgan Setevebs yvela mimarTulebiT<br />
unda velodoT. sabednierod,<br />
am brZolaSi axla martoebi<br />
ar varT, rogorc 2008 wels<br />
da mTelma Tavisufalma samyarom<br />
Seigno, rom ruseTi egzistenciur<br />
safrTxes warmoadgens mis-<br />
Tvisac, im formiT, rogori<br />
ruseTic axla putinis mmarTvelobis<br />
qveSaa. axla fsonebi Zalian<br />
maRalia da ruseTi aucileblad<br />
damarcxdeba Tavisufal<br />
samyarosTan WidilSi. Cven istoriis<br />
swor mxares vdgavarT da<br />
gamarjvebulebi viqnebiT. amisTvis<br />
saWiroa erToba, mxneoba da<br />
gambedaoba.<br />
`qarTuli ocneba~ sajaro moxeleebs `tituSkebad~ iyenebs~<br />
me-13 gverdidan<br />
- mTawmindis qedi Cveulebrivad<br />
iWreba, nariyala Cveulebrivad ingreva<br />
da artefaqtebi gaaqvT manqaniT da nagavTan<br />
erTad yrian.<br />
_ ki ar yrian, aguri miaqvT<br />
mRvdlebs, cxadia, muqTad.<br />
_ magis garda nagavSic iyreba artefaqtebi,<br />
gatexili qoTnebi, rac arqeologiuri<br />
masalaa. mSeneblobebi<br />
Cveulebrivad grZeldeba. ra keTdeba?<br />
miwisqveSa gadasasvlelebi SevRebeT. amazec<br />
madloba unda vuTxraT, Turme.<br />
danarCeni sasikeTo ra moxda? iq metro<br />
Camoiqca, ager 14 wlis bavSvi gadmovardnilma<br />
SuSam Seiwira, ager rusTavelze,<br />
kulturuli memkvidreobis Zegls<br />
miadgnen SuaRamisas da angrevdnen, arc<br />
erTi specialisti ar iyo adgilze, romelic<br />
aswavlis, rogor unda moepyran<br />
lisuflebaSi yofnis bolo wels, swored<br />
mase miadga repetitorebs, is repetitorobac<br />
im xalxis erTaderTi Se-<br />
mosavlis wyaro iyo.<br />
_ mere me xom ar vambob, rom yvelaferSi<br />
marTlebi iyvnen da eg swori<br />
gadawyvetileba iyo? jer moagvare ekonomikuri<br />
problemebi da mere mosTxove<br />
am adamianebs pasuxi.<br />
_ ki magram, eg ekonomikuri prob-<br />
lemebi marto taqsistebisTvisaa? Tu<br />
sxva ixdis gadasaxads, taqsistma ra-<br />
tom ar unda gadaixados?<br />
_ yvela rodis ixdis gadasaxads?<br />
biZina ivaniSvili bitkoinebs rom awarmoebs,<br />
gadasaxads ixdis rames? Tu<br />
piriqiT, SeRavaTiani pirobebiT sargeblobs?<br />
ramdeni gadasaxadisgan aris<br />
ganTavisuflebuli sapatriarqo? vis<br />
vTxovT Cven, yvelaze dabal dones,<br />
romelic dRe da Rames asworebs, rom<br />
vrevda manqanis SuSebs, rom magnitofoni<br />
amoecala. ar maxsovs, vinmes agurebze<br />
daxvedrodes manqana im periodSi,<br />
dRes ra mdgomareoba gvaqvs? sarkeebs<br />
xsnian, SuSebsac amtvreven, agurebze<br />
Semdgari ramdenime manqanac vixileT,<br />
„garaJs” rom daungrev adamians, garantias<br />
vin aZlevs, rom mis manqanas araferi<br />
mouva? Zalian kargi iniciativaa, magram<br />
am problemas ra vuyoT?<br />
_ eg gasagebia, magram isic vTqvaT,<br />
umetesi „garaJi” isev carielia, sawy-<br />
obebad da sakompoteebad aqvT naqcevi<br />
da manqanebi isev gareT uyeniaT.<br />
_ is, rom es garaJebi qalaqs amaxinjebs,<br />
yvelas veTanxmebi, vinc ar unda<br />
iyos.<br />
_ am „garaJebis” ngrevaSi xom araa<br />
misi sxva interesic? Tu mxolod qalaqis<br />
ierze zrunavs da amisTvis imterebs<br />
am xalxs? Tundac is rom, rig adg-<br />
vinme mivida Sexvedraze, rom gaegoT, ra<br />
problemebi hqondaT, anazRaureba ki ara,<br />
daTvlazec uars eubnebodnen, bolos ra<br />
miiRes? sami aTasi lariT daexmarnen da<br />
uTxres, „nacionalebTan” erTad gviwyobdiT<br />
aqciebs, imaT wisqvilze asxamdiT wyals<br />
da Cvengan iTxovT daxmarebaso? axla<br />
am movaWreebs hgoniaT, rom maT daexmarebian,<br />
Tu Cumad iqnebian, xmas ar amoiReben<br />
da televiziebiT ar gamoCndebian. imedi<br />
maqvs, rom ar iqneba isev iseTi damcinavi<br />
maT mier gaweuli damxareba, magram arc<br />
imis imedi maqvs, rom realurad daexmarebian.<br />
movaWreebs imedi aqvT, rom srulad<br />
aunazRaureben zians, rac, jerjerobiT,<br />
arc erTxel momxadara. yvelas eubnebian,<br />
ratom ar gqondaT dazRveuli saqonelio.<br />
ki, aucileblad unda gqondes<br />
saqoneli dazRveuli, magram es xalxi isedac<br />
araerT gadasaxads ixdis da kidev Tu<br />
dazRvevis safasuri ixada, saxlSi raRa<br />
`ra movigeT am matareblebis yidviT? Tu adre xuT saaTSi<br />
Cadioda Tbilisidan baTumSi, axla Cadis 4 saaTsa da 40 wuTSi.<br />
imis magivrad, rom bevri mgzavri gadagveyvana, mgzavrebis<br />
raodenoba ar Secvlila, - rac midioda manamde, igive midis<br />
axlac, es matarebeli mogebas ver naxulobs. 45 milioni<br />
dolaria gadaxdili, am fuls rodis amoiRebs saqarTvelos<br />
rkinigza? 20 wuTis gamo Rirda 45 milionis gadaxda?~<br />
aseT Zeglebs. ra Seicvala? saxeebi mxolod<br />
da saxelebi.<br />
_ Tumca iniciativebi aqvs taqsebT-<br />
an dakavSirebiT.<br />
_ iniciativebi wamoayena, ki batono,<br />
magram sasikeTo ra aris Tundac taqsis<br />
mZRolebisTvis?<br />
_ taqsis mZRolebisTvis unda iyos<br />
Tu qalaqisTvis? wesiT, ra aris mis am<br />
iniciativaSi miuRebeli, ra aris imaSi<br />
cudi, Tu taqsiT mgzavrobis sfero<br />
mowesrigedeba, an ratom ar unda ibe-<br />
grebodnen?<br />
_ imasac unda SevxedoT ra ekonomikuri<br />
mdgomareoba gvaqvs qveyanaSi.<br />
rodesac adamianis erTaderTi Semosavlis<br />
wyaro aris taqsaoba da ojaxis<br />
gamokvebis erTaderTi saSualeba aris<br />
da mas...<br />
_ ukacravad, magram romeli partiis<br />
wevric xarT, swored eg partia, xe-<br />
N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
rogorme ojaxi gamokvebos? jer biZina<br />
ivaniSvils movTxovoT, milionebs rom<br />
akeTebs bitkoinebiT da mere movTxovoT<br />
sxva danarCensac. aq SerCeviTia yvelaferi,<br />
erTi jibidan maqsimalurad<br />
unda amoviRoT yvelaferi da meores<br />
arc unda mivekaroT. ar SeiZleba imitom,<br />
rom is „dabali Robea”, kidev ufro<br />
daaWiro fexi.<br />
_ kalaZes iniciativa aqvs, aiRos „garaJebi”.<br />
Tavis droze, es „nacmoZraob-<br />
asac” undoda, magram sazogadoebis<br />
mZafri winaaRmdegobis gamo, maleve<br />
aiRo xeli. axla kalaZes unda igive da<br />
ramdenad gamova?<br />
_ rodesac „nacionalurma” moZraobam<br />
„garaJebis” ngreva daiwyo, Zalian<br />
iyo gamkacrebuli kriminalis winaaRmdeg<br />
brZolac da manqanas sarkes veRaravin<br />
xsnida, namdvilad ar undoda sarkis<br />
gamo cixeSi wasvla. veRaravin amt-<br />
ilebSi aTi „garaJi<br />
garaJi” rom aiRo, mSve-<br />
nieri korpusi Caekvexeba.<br />
_ ar vici, samwuxarod, amaT pirobeb-<br />
Si veraferze Tavs ver davdeb. xeebs<br />
Cexen imisTvis, rom korpusi aSendes da<br />
amis gamo rom „garaJebi” daangrion, ra<br />
gamosaricxia? ver gamoricxav, magram<br />
imedi maqvs, rom amdeni Wkua eyofaT,<br />
aseTi ram ar gaakeTon.<br />
_ moxerxdeba „garaJebis” aReba? ar<br />
moyveba igive, rac moyva „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” dros?<br />
_ vinc winaaRmdegi gamova, isev daiwyeben,<br />
Sen „nacionali” xar... zustad<br />
iseve, rogorc xdeba damwvari bazrobebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi.<br />
_ ki, is, visac qoneba daewva, araTu<br />
protests ar acxadebs, gasaSuqeblad<br />
misul telearxebsac eCxubeba.<br />
_ eg imitom xdeba, rom rodesac „bavSvTa<br />
samyaro” daiwva da dazaralebulebma<br />
bevri ilaparakes televiziebTan,<br />
am xelisuflebis mier daisajnen kidec.<br />
sanam protesti ar gamoTqves da aqciebi<br />
ar moawyves, maTTan arc narmania da arc<br />
miitanos? isedac gaWirvebaa, gaZvirebulia<br />
yvelaferi, vaWroba Semcirebulia da<br />
raRacas cdilobs es xalxi, rom patara<br />
mogeba naxos, ojaxi arCinos da dazRvevis<br />
xdas da ulukmapurod darCenas alalbedze<br />
mindoba urCevnia, imis imedad,<br />
rom ar daiwveba. ambobdnen, avtomatebidan<br />
vTiSavdiT dens, rom xanZari ar<br />
gaCeniliyoo, magram mainc gaCnda. gamo-<br />
Ziebas Tu velodeT, wlebi mogviwevs<br />
lodini, imitom rom 2012 wlidan moyolebuli<br />
jer verc erTi faqti ver gaixsna<br />
bolomde, SemTxvevebs abraleben yvelafers<br />
da ase SemTxveviT 12 bazroba 6<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi rogor daiwva? am<br />
xalxs, jerjerobiT, imedi aqvs, rom<br />
daexmarebian, magram rogorc ki ar daexmarebian,<br />
pirveli TviTon iqnebian, vinc<br />
gamova da ilaparakebs. imedi maqvs, daxmarebas<br />
gauweven. Tu dasWirdaT, me piradad<br />
mzad var, maT gverdiT vidge,<br />
rogorc videqi „bavSvTa samyaros” SemTxvevaSi.<br />
aucileblad davudgebiT gverdiT,<br />
riTic SegveZleba da rogorc SegveZleba.<br />
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saqarTvelos winaSe arsebul<br />
gamowvevebze, romelic ruseTis<br />
mier Cven winaaRmdeg warmoebul-<br />
ma hibridulma omma warmoaCina,<br />
„qronika+”-s diplomati da konstitucionalisti<br />
nikoloz vaSa-<br />
kiZe esaubra:<br />
_ faqtia, rom saqarTvelo ruseTTan<br />
saomar mdgomareobaSi imyofeba,<br />
Tumca garegnuli mocemuloba<br />
saerTod ar Seesatyvise-<br />
ba realobas. rogor fiqrobT,<br />
risi bralia es mdgomareoba?<br />
_ 2008 wlis ruseT-saqarTvelos<br />
omi samSvidobo xelSekrulebiT<br />
ar dasrulebula, gaformda mxolod<br />
cecxlis Sewyvetis SeTanxmeba,<br />
romlis Sedegadac dainiSna e.<br />
w. Jenevis molaparakebebi. es molaparakebebi<br />
ramdenime welia, ukve<br />
uSedegod mimdinareobs. qveynis<br />
teritoriebis 20% okupirebulia,<br />
iq ganlagebulia okupantis samxedro<br />
Zalebi da am teritoriebidan<br />
saqarTvelos mimarT provokaciuli<br />
RonisZiebebi ar wydeba, gasagebi<br />
mizezebis gamo ruseTTan Cveni<br />
diplomatiuri urTierTobebi gawyvetilia.<br />
amdenad, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
rom omis mdgomareobaSi vimyofebiT,<br />
Tumca es ar aris omis aqtiuri<br />
faza. es mdgomareoba ukve, Ti-<br />
Tqmis, 10 welia, grZeldeba da, Sesabamisad,<br />
mosaxleobis mier gamokveTilad<br />
da mwvaved ar aRiqmeba<br />
rogorc omis mdgomareoba, miT<br />
umetes, rom am aRiarebas gaurbis<br />
xelisuflebac, radgan mas gamocxadebuli<br />
aqvs (marTalia, jerjerobiT,<br />
warumatebeli) ruseTTan<br />
urTierTobebis normalizaciis<br />
politika.<br />
_ rogorc cnobilia, ruseTi<br />
aqtiurad awarmoebs hibridul<br />
oms msoflio masStabiT, maT So-<br />
ris, saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg. Tumca,<br />
realurad, qarTuli sazoga-<br />
doebis mniSvnelovani nawili verc<br />
ki aTviTcnobierebs arsebul vi-<br />
Tarebas. xelisufleba saerTod<br />
dums am problemaze. vrclad vi-<br />
saubroT _ zogadad, ra aris hibr-<br />
iduli omi da ra damaxasiaTebe-<br />
li niSanTvisebebiT vlindeba is<br />
Cvens sinamdvileSi?<br />
_ zogadad, hibriduli omi niSnavs<br />
yvela damangrevel, ZirgamomTxrel,<br />
damasustebel, madestabilizebel<br />
moqmedebas, romelsac<br />
erTi mxare awarmoebs meoris mimarT<br />
garda pirdapiri samxedro zemoqmedebisa.<br />
es SeiZleba iyos propagandistuli<br />
da kiberoperaciebi,<br />
specsamsaxurebis ZirgamomTxreli<br />
saqmianoba, mosaxleobis an misi<br />
calkeuli kategoriebis ganwyobebiT<br />
manipulireba da a. S. zogadad,<br />
hibriduli omi, Cveulebrivisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT, ufro asimetriul da<br />
farul xasiaTs atarebs.<br />
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armaz metreveli<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
rac Seexeba saqarTvelos, vfiqrob,<br />
aq aSkarad igrZnoba garedan<br />
marTuli prorusuli da antidasavluri<br />
propaganda rogorc informaciis<br />
masobrivi saSualebebiT,<br />
aseve, uSualod, mosaxleobis wiaR-<br />
Si, intensiuri SeRweva saqarTvelos<br />
ekonomikasa da saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebSi, aqtiuri zemoqmedeba<br />
kibersivrceSi, erovnuli umciresobebis<br />
ganwyobebiT manipulireba<br />
da garkveuli politikuri<br />
Zalebis pirdapiri dafinanseba da<br />
marTva.<br />
_ imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom<br />
xelisufleba am omis mimdinare-<br />
obaze dums, rogor fiqrobT,<br />
saerTod SeimCneva raime saxis<br />
winaaRmdegobis konturebi xe-<br />
lisuflebis mxridan?<br />
_ Tu gaviTvaliswinebT imas,<br />
raoden Tavxedurad da aqtiurad<br />
moqmedeben qveyanaSi prorusuli<br />
Zalebi, unda vivaraudoT, rom,<br />
zogadad, xelisuflebisa da Sesabamisi<br />
samsaxurebis saqmianoba am<br />
mimarTulebiT efeqtiani ar aris.<br />
garda amisa, arsebobs seriozuli<br />
kiTxvebi ruseTis agenturis saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifo struqturebSi<br />
SeRwevasTan dakavSirebiT. amis<br />
Tqmis uflebas maZlevs Tundac<br />
is, rom ruseTis agenturis gan-<br />
Tavisufleba patimrobidan da specdavalebebis<br />
Semsrulebeli qarTveli<br />
oficrebis dapatimreba-gasamarTleba<br />
moxda swored xelisuflebis<br />
mier. samwuxarod, am oficrebis<br />
nawili saerTod daRupulia<br />
sakmaod saeWvo viTarebaSi.<br />
_ mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom<br />
sakiTxi gaazrebuli ar aqvs araTu<br />
saxelisuflebo institutebs,<br />
aramed, rac yvelaze mTavaria, medias.<br />
marTalia, kantikuntad is-<br />
mis am Temaze saubari, magram siR-<br />
rmiseulad masze aravin saubrobs.<br />
miT ufro meoTxe xelisufleba.<br />
rogor fiqrobT, risi bralia es<br />
viTareba da winaaRmdegobis ra xerxebsa<br />
da meTodebs urCevdiT mas-<br />
medias?<br />
_ gavleniani masmediis saSualebebidan<br />
dReisTvis Zalian cotam<br />
SeinarCuna damoukidebloba. didi<br />
umravlesoba ama Tu im formiT<br />
kontroldeba xelisuflebis mier.<br />
bevrs codna da gamocdileba aklia.<br />
kontrolirebad saSualebebs<br />
verafers vurCev, Tavisufal medias<br />
ki vurCevdi, meti dro dauTmos<br />
TviTganaTlebas, Tundac, usafrTxoebis<br />
sakiTxebSi.<br />
_ calkeul sakiTxebze davk-<br />
onkretdeT: arsebobs CerCilis<br />
genialuri fraza, romliTac man<br />
erTxel premier Cemberlens mima-<br />
rTa: „me ar gadanaSaulebT samSo-<br />
blos RalatSi, magram xazgasmiT<br />
vambob, rom Tqveni qmedebebiT<br />
xels uwyobT mowinaaRmdeges, Cveni<br />
samSoblos winaaRmdeg imoqme-<br />
dos”. perifrazis SemTxvevaSi igi-<br />
ve SegviZlia vTqvaT ara mxolod<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebaze,<br />
aramed qveyanaSi yvelaze avtoritetul<br />
institutze _ marTlma-<br />
didebel eklesiaze. Tu ufro<br />
davkonkretdebi, eklesiis calkeul<br />
msaxurebze, romelTa raode-<br />
noba arcTu mcirericxovania. am<br />
institutis „moqcevis” ra Sansi<br />
arsebobs, Tuki saerTod aris es<br />
SesaZlebeli?<br />
_ vfiqrob, aq dro da moTminebaa<br />
saWiro. eklesia iseTive nawilia<br />
Cveni sazogadoebis, rogorc<br />
yvela sxva instituti. sul axlaxan<br />
gaxmaurebuli antidasavluri<br />
werilis xelmomwerebi sulac ar<br />
arian sasuliero pirebi, isini, ZiriTadad,<br />
xelovnebis sxvadasxva dargis<br />
Zveli Taobis warmomadgenlebi<br />
arian. vfiqrob, xelovnebis imave<br />
dargebis ufro axalgazrda warmomadgenelTa<br />
wiaRSi aseTi werilis<br />
gaCena, praqtikulad, SeuZlebeli<br />
iqneboda. igive exeba, albaT, eklesiasac.<br />
TaobaTa cvlis bunebrivi<br />
procesi aqac TandaTan Seuwyobs<br />
xels ganwyobaTa cvlilebas.<br />
_ mxolod miamits SeiZleba<br />
sjerodes, rom kremli, misi specsamsaxurebi,<br />
saqarTvelos saprez-<br />
idento arCevnebSi ar Caereva.<br />
sulac ar aris gamoricxuli, rom<br />
moskovs sakuTari kandidatic hyavdes,<br />
vgulisxmob romelime kandi-<br />
datis farul mxardaWeras. aris<br />
nikoloz vaSakiZe:<br />
`ruseT-saqarTvelos<br />
omi samSvidobo<br />
xelSekrulebiT ar<br />
dasrulebula~<br />
`arsebobs<br />
seriozuli kiTxvebi<br />
ruseTis agenturis<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebSi<br />
SeRwevasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT~<br />
Tu ara SesaZlebeli raime saxis<br />
prevencia?<br />
_ prezidentis roli da Zalaufleba<br />
qveynis politikur cxovrebaSi<br />
minimumade aris dayvanili.<br />
amave dros, opoziciis mkveTri dasustebisa<br />
da daqsaqsulobis fonze,<br />
imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom Tavad<br />
arCevnebi arakeTilsindisierad,<br />
xelisuflebis kontrolis qveS<br />
tardeba, saxelisuflebo kandidatis<br />
gamarjvebis albaToba sakmaod<br />
maRalia. unda vaRiaroT, rom arsebul<br />
xelisuflebasTan ruseTi gacilebiT<br />
ufro komfortulad<br />
grZnobs Tavs, vidre mis winamorbedTan<br />
da, Sesabamisad, saxelisuflebo<br />
kandidatis gamarjveba mis-<br />
Tvis savsebiT misaRebia. ara mgonia,<br />
rom am etapze ruseTi gansaku-<br />
Trebulad iyos dainteresebuli<br />
deklarirebulad prorusuli kandidatis<br />
gamarjvebiT, miT umetes,<br />
rom es, praqtikulad, SeuZlebelic<br />
aris. amdenad, zedmeti Careva am<br />
arCevnebSi ruseTs maincdamainc ar<br />
sWirdeba<br />
_ qarTuli politikuri speq-<br />
tris sruli atrofia SeiZleba<br />
davarqvaT viTarebas, romelic<br />
qveyanaSi amJamad aris Seqmnili.<br />
„ocnebis” naocnebari zeoba da<br />
opoziciis maqsimaluri dauZlureba<br />
_ calkeuli Zalebis dis-<br />
krediteba, raoden samwuxaroc ar<br />
unda iyos, erTi erTSi hgavs rus-<br />
eTis plitikur cxovrebas. davij-<br />
eroT, rom esec am omis Sedegia?<br />
rogor SeiZleba problemis gada-<br />
Wra da am politikuri marazmis<br />
daZleva?<br />
_ zogadad, specifikuri rusuli<br />
scenarebi calsaxad ikveTeba<br />
saqarTvelos rogorc politikur,<br />
aseve, ekonomikur cxovrebaSi. cxadia,<br />
moskovis xeli aSkarad igrZnoba,<br />
Tumca Tavad qarTuli politikuri<br />
klasic ver aRmoCnda mowodebis<br />
doneze. Cvenma plitikosebma<br />
dakarges strategiuli xedva, kargi<br />
gagebiT ambiciebi, xalxis simpa-<br />
Tiebi, CarCnen Zvel, gacveTil ritorikaSi<br />
da ZiriTadad gadaerTnen<br />
merkantilizmsa da viwro dRis<br />
wesrigze.<br />
am, rogorc Tqven uwodeT, marazmidan<br />
situaciis gamoyvana isev<br />
axal Taobas Tu SeuZlia. samwuxarod,<br />
es axali Taoba, specifikuri<br />
sakiTxebis garda, jerjerobiT,<br />
socialur-politikur velze, ZiriTadad,<br />
pasiurobs, magram imeds<br />
vitoveb, rom es ase ar gagrZeldeba.<br />
_ Cven xSirad gveubnebian, rom<br />
kultura, sporti, mecniereba _<br />
politika ar aris. amavdroulad,<br />
gvesmis imave putinisa Tu lavro-<br />
vis frazebi, Tu rogor uyvarT<br />
saqarTvelo da qarTveli xalxi,<br />
rom imave kalantarovs (lavrovs)<br />
qarTuli fesvebi aqvs. obivatelze<br />
gaTvlili es mesijebi, faqtia,<br />
rom muSaobs. amis dastur sx-<br />
vadasxva gamokiTxvisa da ruseTis<br />
mimarT loialuri mosaxleobis<br />
raodenoba izrdeba. marTla ase-<br />
Ti gulubryviloebi varT, Tu es<br />
Cveni Tanamoqalaqeebis merkan-<br />
tilizmis Sedegia?<br />
_ Tavs nu movityuebT. is saqarTvelo<br />
da is qarTvelebi, romlebic<br />
putins, lavrovsa da sxva<br />
rus imperialistebs uyvarT, aris<br />
damonebuli, ruseTis winaSe molaquce<br />
saqarTvelo da imperiis<br />
wiaRSi Seqmnili, klounad qceuli,<br />
mokretino da gamrTobi qarTvelis<br />
tipaJi. seriozuli da warmatebuli<br />
qarTvelebi maT aRizianebT. samwuxarod,<br />
dResac moiZebneba Cven-<br />
Si xalxi, vinc mzadaa, es klounis<br />
roli rusebis saameblad da saku-<br />
Tari gamorCenisTvis isev moirgos,<br />
magram, sabednierod, isini ukve<br />
did umciresobaSi arian.<br />
_ ramdenad aris SesaZlebeli<br />
davakonkretoT da davasaxeloT,<br />
vin aris an arian ruseTis yvelaze<br />
didi dasayrdeni saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg warmoebul hibridul<br />
omSi?<br />
_ me gvarebis nacvlad im realiebze<br />
getyviT, romlebsac ruseTi<br />
eyrdnoba CvenTan hibridul omSi.<br />
pirvel rigSi, es gaunaTleblobaa.<br />
ganaTlebis sferoSi Cven didi<br />
problemebi gvaqvs, xolo gaunaTlebeli<br />
da gonebaganuviTerebeli adamianebi<br />
Zalze ioli samizneebi arian<br />
mtruli specsamsaxurebisTvis,<br />
radgan gamocdili propagandistuli<br />
struqturebi iolad unergaven<br />
TavianT mavne kliSeebsa da qmedebazec<br />
iyolieben. pirdapir vityvi:<br />
dRes saqarTveloSi gaunaTlebloba<br />
danaSaulis tolfasia, mravali<br />
gagebiT. davsvaT kiTxva: akeTebs<br />
ki dRes Cveni saskolo ganaTleba<br />
Tundac imis minimums, rom moswavleebi<br />
moqalaqeebad da patriotebad<br />
Camoyalibden? awvdis is bavSvebs<br />
swor da mniSvnelovan informacias<br />
saqarTvelos istoriaze,<br />
ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierTobebis<br />
istoriaze? sakmarisia, odnav<br />
mainc CaixedoT am sakiTxis siRrme-<br />
Si da dainaxavT, Tu ra mZime situaciaSi<br />
vimyofebiT. aseve, pirdapir<br />
minda giTxraT, _ is politikuri<br />
reJimi, romelic saqarTveloSi<br />
dRes Camoyalibda, angrevs samoqalaqo<br />
sazogadoebas da samoqalaqo<br />
mentalitets. am fenomenebis<br />
moSla ki saukeTeso saCuqaria Cveni<br />
mowinaaRmdegisTvis mis mier warmoebul<br />
hibridul omSi.<br />
_ dabolos, rogor movklaT<br />
CvenSi yvelaferi „sabWoTa”, rom-<br />
elic am realobaSi rusulTan<br />
asocirdeba?<br />
_ farTod gavaxiloT Tvalebi<br />
da vnaxoT, riT cxovrobs dRes<br />
Tanamedrove msoflio, ra tendenciebia<br />
ekonomikis, mecnierebis,<br />
teqnologiebisa da sazogadoebis<br />
ganviTarebaSi, erTi sityviT, viyuroT<br />
win da sabWourisTvis Cvens<br />
cxovrebasa da azrovnebaSi adgili<br />
aRar darCeba.<br />
16 N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.
morigi Seteva garevaWrobaze<br />
quTaisSi<br />
„qalaqis meris pozicia ucvlelia,<br />
igi quTaisSi ar dauSvebs garevaWrobas.<br />
molaparakeba gaimarTa<br />
bazrobebis xelmZRvanelebTan, romlebic<br />
mzad arian, garemovaWreebs<br />
sami TviT ufasod gamouyon daxlebi”,<br />
_ naTqvamia quTaisis meriis<br />
mier gavrcelebul gancxadebaSi,<br />
romelic adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />
Semdeg gavrcelda. meris am gadawyvetilebas<br />
uxmaurod ar Cauvlia.<br />
garemovaWreebma centraluri<br />
quCis gadaketva scades da xelisuflebas<br />
ukan daxevisken mouwodes.<br />
giorgi WiRvaria pozicias ar<br />
Tmobs da ar apirebs, misi winamorbedebis<br />
msgavsad, aqciebis Semdeg<br />
akrZalva kvlav gaauqmos.<br />
garevaWroba quTaisisTvis bolo<br />
wlebSi seriozul problemad<br />
iqca. qalaqis centrSi „mwvane bazris”<br />
mimdebare teritoria srulad<br />
aTvisebulia kustarulad mowyobili<br />
daxlebiT, ris gamoc ara<br />
marto avtomanqanebs, aramed fexiT<br />
mosiaruleebsac ki gadaadgilebis<br />
saSualeba aRar eZleodaT. malfuWebadi<br />
produqtebis realizacia<br />
yovelgvari kontrolis gareSe<br />
pirdapir trotuaridan xdeboda,<br />
rac mosaxleobis janmrTelobis-<br />
Tvis seriozul safrTxes warmoadgens.<br />
quTaisis quCebSi bevri socialurad<br />
daucveli adamiani vaWrobs,<br />
magram Tu kargad davakvirdebiT,<br />
iseTebic arian, romlebsac savaWro<br />
daxlebi bazrobebis Sida teritoriazec<br />
aqvT aRebuli da paralelurad<br />
gare perimetrzec ewevian<br />
realizacias. aucileblad mogxvdebaT<br />
TvalSi iseTebic, romlebic<br />
trotuarebTan gaCerebuli<br />
datvirTuli msubuqi avtomanqanebidan<br />
vaWroben. mokled, garemovaWreebi,<br />
finansuri SesaZleblobebidan<br />
gamomdinare, erTmaneTisgan<br />
radikalurad gansxvavebuli xalxisgan<br />
Sedgebian, romelTagan umravlesobas<br />
materialurad namdvilad<br />
ar uWirs da romlebic im<br />
adamianebs arian amofarebulni,<br />
quCaSi marTlac rom lukma-puris<br />
saSovnelad arian gamosulni.<br />
meriis mier miRebuli gadawyvetileba<br />
adamianTa erTma jgufma<br />
arasworad miiCnia. maTi azriT,<br />
garevaWroba bevrisTvis ojaxis<br />
rCenis erTaderTi saSualebaa da<br />
akrZalva aseTi saxiT TviTdasaqmebulTa<br />
isedac mZime mdgomareobas<br />
kidev ufro daamZimebs. magram umravlesobaSi<br />
iseTebic aRmoCndnen,<br />
romlebic xelisuflebis gadawyvetilebas<br />
miesalmebian da qalaqis<br />
quCebSi Seqmnili antisanitariisa<br />
da qaosis gamo wlebia, pretenziebs<br />
gamoTqvamen.<br />
rogorc quTaisis merma arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebTan<br />
gamarTul Sexvedraze<br />
ganacxada, xelisuflebam molapar-<br />
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ese ambavi meriis,<br />
opoziciisa da miwisqveSa<br />
quTaisis Sesaxeb<br />
akeba gamarTa qalaqis teritoriaze<br />
arsebuli bazrobebis xelmZRvanelebTan<br />
da isini mzad arian, 3<br />
Tvis ganmavlobaSi gadasaxadis<br />
gareSe dauTmon daxlebi garemova-<br />
Wreebs. metic: „ninoSvilis bazris”<br />
direqcia am adamianebs erTi wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi hpirdeba gadasaxadisgan<br />
ganTavisuflebas. xelisuflebam<br />
garemovaWreTa erT nawils<br />
dasaqmebasac SesTavaza, Tumca, miuxedavad<br />
amisa, adamianebi, romlebmac<br />
quTaisis mwvane bazris Semogareni<br />
da centraluri quCebis<br />
trotuarebi aiTvises, SeTavazebaze<br />
kategoriul uars im motiviT<br />
`avangardis dasaxlebaSi arsebul sasaflaos 11<br />
ha-mde farTobi ukavia da igi yovelwliurad<br />
izrdeba. teritoria dayofilia da igi<br />
ramdenime kerZo pirs ekuTvnis, romlebisTvisac<br />
miwebis saflavebisTvis gayidva momgebian<br />
biznesad iqca. axlo momavalSi "biznesmenTa"<br />
rigebs, rogoc Cans, kidev erTi Seemateba,<br />
rasac dasaxlebis mcxovreblebi aprotesteben<br />
da acxadeben, rom ar dauSveben sasaflaos<br />
kidev ufro zrdas~<br />
acxadeben, rom mcire Semosavlebisa<br />
da sabanko kreditebis arsebobis<br />
gamo ver SeZleben bazrobis<br />
direqciisTvis saSeRavaTo periodis<br />
Semdegac gadasaxadis gadaxdas.<br />
ramdenime dReSi meria WavWava-<br />
Zis quCazec apirebs garevaWrobis<br />
akrZalvas, rac TandaTan qalaqis<br />
sxva ubnebsac moicavs. ase rom, dava<br />
xelisuflebasa da garemovaWreebs<br />
Soris kidev karga xans gagr-<br />
Zeldeba. meri kategoriulia da<br />
ukan daxevas ar apirebs. ramdenad<br />
SeZlebs igi poziciis SenarCunebas,<br />
Sexvdeba Tu ara quTaisis quCebi<br />
turistul sezons mowesrigebuli<br />
da gaxdeba Tu ara igi saqarTvelos<br />
sxva qalaqebisTvis magaliTi,<br />
sul male gamoCndeba.<br />
Tumca arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
warmomadgenelTa gancxadebiT,<br />
aranakleb mniSvnelovania<br />
garemovaWreebidan im adamianTa<br />
identificireba da dasaqmeba moxdes,<br />
romlebisTvisac quCaSi jdoma<br />
iZuleba iyo da romelTa uflebebis<br />
dacvac xelisuflebis movaleobaa.<br />
sasaflaoebis mowyoba _ momge-<br />
biani biznesi quTaisSi<br />
avangardis dasaxlebis xsenebaze<br />
quTaislebs, pirvel rigSi, sasaflao<br />
axsendebaT, magram es aris<br />
ubani, sadac, micvalebulTa saboloo<br />
gansasvenebelTan erTad, maRlivi<br />
korpusebiT ganaSenianebuli<br />
qalaqis erT-erTi didi dasaxlebaa.<br />
am korpusebis mcxovreblebs ki<br />
sakuTari fanjrebidan yoveldRiurad<br />
uwevT sasaflaosa da samgloviaro<br />
korteJebis xilva da iZulebiTi<br />
glova.<br />
avangardis dasaxlebaSi arsebul<br />
sasaflaos 11 ha-mde farTobi<br />
ukavia da igi yovelwliurad izrdeba.<br />
teritoria dayofilia da<br />
igi ramdenime kerZo pirs ekuTvnis,<br />
romlebisTvisac miwebis saflavebisTvis<br />
gayidva momgebian biznesad<br />
iqca. axlo momavalSi „biznesmenTa”<br />
rigebs, rogoc Cans, kidev erTi<br />
Seemateba, rasac dasaxlebis mcxovreblebi<br />
aprotesteben da acxadeben,<br />
rom ar dauSveben sasaflaos<br />
kidev ufro zrdas.<br />
„yoveldRiurad izrdeba sasaflao<br />
da lamisaa, ubanSi Semovides.<br />
avangardi ukve sasaflaosTan<br />
asocirdeba. SeuZlebelia, fanjridan<br />
gadmoxedva, aivanze gamosvla.<br />
dilidan ismis xalxis moTqma. pirdapir<br />
gzis pirzea saflavebi.<br />
SeuZlebelia ase cxovreba!” _ acxadebs<br />
dasaxlebaSi mcxovrebi marika<br />
fruiZe, romelic TanamoazreebTan<br />
erTad axali sasaflaos<br />
gaxsnis winaaRmdeg xelmowerebis<br />
Segrovebas ganagrZobs.<br />
sulxan-sabas quCa, romelic,<br />
jerjerobiT, avangardis ubanTan<br />
damakvSirebeli erTaderTi saSualebaa,<br />
ramdenime kilometrzea gadaWimuli.<br />
maRliv korpusebSi mcxovreblebs<br />
saflavebTan mxolod<br />
is zoli aSorebs, romelic quCisTvisaa<br />
gankuTvnili. Tavis droze,<br />
miwis ukontrolod gasxvisebisa da<br />
gulgrili damokidebulebis gamo,<br />
dRes saflavebi trotuaris gaswvrivaa<br />
mowyobili. dasaxlebaSi mcxovrebi<br />
ufrosi Taoba aseTi suraTis<br />
naxvas ukve SeeCvia, magram<br />
maT ar surT, sakuTar Svilebs<br />
saflavebis garemocvaSi zrdidnen.<br />
mosaxleoba xelisuflebas trotuarisa<br />
da sasaflaos RobiT gamijvnisken<br />
mouwodebs, rac, maTi<br />
gancxadebiT, arsebul depresiul<br />
fons fexiT Tu transportiT gadaadgilebisas<br />
SedarebiT Searbilebs,<br />
Tumca aseT SemTxvevaSic ki<br />
maT fanjrebidan da aivnebidan<br />
sasaflaos xilva mianc yoveldRiurad<br />
mouwevT. msgavsi xedebis xilva,<br />
rogorc Cans, male qalaqis<br />
erT-erT centralur quCaze, Wav-<br />
WavaZis gamzirze, yofili ministaris<br />
qarxnis win mcxovreblebsac<br />
emuqrebaT, radgan, jerjerobiT,<br />
quCis meore mxares, Tvals mofarebuli<br />
Robis ukan, axlad mowyobili<br />
sasaflao yoveldRiurad<br />
izrdeba da maTi korpusebisken farTovdeba.<br />
avangardis dasaxlebis mcxovreblebi<br />
xelisuflebas faqtiT dainteresebas<br />
sTxoven da mouwodeben,<br />
regulaciebi miiRon, romlebic<br />
sasaflaoebis dasaxlebuli punqtebis<br />
xedvis arealSi mowyobas akrZalavs,<br />
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi,<br />
miiCneven, rom sazogadoebaSi arsebuli<br />
depresiuli foni aRniSnulis<br />
gamo kidev ufro gaRrmavdeba.<br />
quTaisSi miwam Tavi daifasa<br />
quTaisSi miwas fasi daedo. yoveli<br />
SemTxvevisTvis, aseTi STabe-<br />
Wdileba rCeba adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis<br />
Semdeg. sakrebulom iniciativas<br />
mxari dauWira da qalaqis<br />
samive zonaSi fasi 7%-iT gaizarda.<br />
axali dadgenilebis Tanaxmad,<br />
pirvel zonaSi 1 kv.m fasi 190-<br />
iT, meore zonaSi 135-iT da mesame<br />
zonaSi 68 lariT ganisazRvra. xelisuflebis<br />
gadawyvetilebas mxari<br />
ar dauWires opozicionerma deputatebma.<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />
wevr gia uklebas TqmiT, ase-<br />
Ti gadawyvetilebiT xelisufleba<br />
kiTxvis niSnis qveS ayenebs saprivatzacio<br />
gegmis Sesrulebas. „sircxvilia,<br />
roca meriam argumentad<br />
moitana ramdenime auqcionis Sedegebi,<br />
sadac miwa dadgenil fasze<br />
Zvirad gaiyida. es aris, ZiriTadad,<br />
patara nakveTebi, rac cxadia, myidvels<br />
did sxvaobas ar aZlevs.<br />
gagrZeleba 35-e gv.<br />
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israelma ukan ar daixia da adolf<br />
aihmanis dakavebisTvis aqtiuri<br />
moqmedeba daiwyo. operacias mosadis<br />
ufrosi iser xareli piradad<br />
xelmZRvanelobda. am saqmeSi Car-<br />
Tuli yvela TanamSromeli moxalise<br />
iyo. sagulisxmoa, rom operaciaSi<br />
monawileTa umravlesobam<br />
Tavad gadaitana nacistTa reJimis<br />
saSineleba da sakoncentracio banakebSi<br />
uamravi naTesavi dakarga.<br />
TiToeuli maTgani mkacrad gaafr-<br />
Txiles, rom adolf aihmani ar<br />
unda moeklaT – yofili „es-es”-<br />
eli israelis sasamarTlos cocxali<br />
sWirdeboda.<br />
operaciaSi monawile jgufis<br />
wevrebis argentinaSi gadasrolisTvis<br />
mosadma specialuri gegma<br />
SeimuSava. Seiqmna fiqtiuri turistuli<br />
kompania, romlis meSveobiTac<br />
operatiuli TanamSromlebi<br />
sxvadasxva qveynidan saTiTaod<br />
Cadiodnen argentinaSi. operacia<br />
buenos-airesSi israelis samTavrobo<br />
delegaciis vizits daamTxvies.<br />
1960 wels argentina damoukideblobis<br />
150 wlisTavs aRniSnavda<br />
da amasTan dakavSirebiT qveyana<br />
uamrav ucxour delegacias<br />
maspinZlobda.<br />
vinaidan israelsa da argentinas<br />
Soris pirdapiri sahaero mimosvla<br />
ar arsebobda, mosadma datyvevebis<br />
Semdeg aihmanis israelSi<br />
gadayvana samTavrobo TviTmfrinaviT<br />
gadawyvita. TviTmfrinavi<br />
buenos-airesSi 19 maiss daeSveboda<br />
da 20 maiss israelSi unda gabrunebuliyo.<br />
operaciis Casatareblad<br />
jgufs sul erTi dRe hqonda,<br />
amitom mosadma gadawyvita,<br />
riskebi Seemcirebina da aihmani<br />
ramdenime dRiT adre daekavebina.<br />
„es-es”-elis datyvevebaSi mosadis<br />
30 TanamSromeli iyo CarTuli,<br />
aqedan 12 agenti uSualod dakavebis<br />
operaciaSi monawileobda,<br />
danarCeni ki uzrunvelyofis samuSaos<br />
axorcielebda. operacia<br />
saguldagulod daigegma, sadac<br />
umniSvnelo detalebic ki iyo ga-<br />
Tvlili.<br />
1960 wlis 11 maiss aihmanis sacxovrebel<br />
saxlTan ori manqana gaCerda,<br />
sadac mosadis 7 TanamSromeli<br />
imyofeboda. aihmani samsaxuridan<br />
saRamos 8 saaTze dabrunda. igi<br />
avtobusidan gadmovida da sax-<br />
mixeil basilaZe<br />
israelis nebismieri moqalaqe darwmunebulia, rom mTavro-<br />
ba ukiduresi zomebis gamoyenebasac ki ar moerideba, Tu mis<br />
sicocxles safrTxe daemuqra. magram Tu vinmem gabeda da<br />
israelis moqalaqe mainc mokla, sazogadoebas eWvi ar epareba,<br />
rom qveynis specsamsaxurebi yvelafers gaakeTeben da mkv-<br />
lelze Surs iZieben.<br />
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oda aihmanis colis saxels (Fichmann<br />
nacvlad Eichmann). „es-es”-<br />
elis saboloo identifikacia 1960<br />
wlis 21 marts moxda, rodesac igi<br />
saxlSi yvavilebis TaiguliT mivida.<br />
aihmanis dosies meSveobiT mosadma<br />
daadgina, rom mas qorwinebis<br />
25 wlis iubile hqonda.<br />
argentinis xelisuflebasTan<br />
aihmanis dakavebisa da misi gadmocemis<br />
Taobaze molaparakeba ararealuri<br />
iyo. 1945 wlis Semdeg es<br />
qveyana nacistebis namdvil TavSesafrad<br />
gadaiqca. prezidenti xuan<br />
peroni hitleris reJims TanaugrZnobda<br />
da ara marto Tvals xu-<br />
Wavda qveyanaSi nacistebis Semosvlaze,<br />
aramed xelsac ki uwyobda<br />
evropidan argentinaSi maTi gadmobargebis<br />
process. bevri maTgani<br />
argentinis SeiaraRebul ZalebSic<br />
ki msaxurobda.<br />
1955 wels samxedro xuntis mier<br />
peronis Camogdebis Semdeg viTareba<br />
didad ar Secvlila. argentinis<br />
mmarTvel elitaSi, gansakuTrebiT<br />
ki samxedro wreebSi, pronacisturi<br />
ganwyobebi kvlav maRali iyo.<br />
Tu oficialuri mimarTvis Semdeg<br />
argentinis xelisufleba aihmans<br />
mainc daakavebda, didi iyo imis albaToba,<br />
rom samxedro damnaSaves<br />
germanias gadascemdnen. omis dasrulebidan<br />
15 wlis gasvlis Semdeg<br />
ki evropis sasamarTloebi yofili<br />
nacistebis mimarT iseTi simkacriT<br />
aRar gamoirCeodnen da israelis<br />
nomer pirvel mters, savaraudod,<br />
SedarebiT lmobier ganaCens<br />
gamoutandnen.<br />
miuxedavad aseTi viTarebisa,<br />
mosadi: israelis moqalaqeTa<br />
mcveli da mrisxane SurismaZiebeli<br />
rodesac saqme saxelmwifos<br />
prestiJs exeba, israeli ukan araferze<br />
ixevs da saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
ucxo qveynis teritoriazec<br />
ki axorcielebs specoperacias.<br />
israelis mTavari principi Semdegia:<br />
maTi saxelmwifos arc erTi<br />
mteri dausjeli ar unda darCes.<br />
Tu mizezTa gamo, legaluri gziT<br />
damnaSavis pasuxisgebaSi micema ver<br />
xerxdeba, maSin maT fizikurad<br />
adgilze anadgureben.<br />
samsaxurs, romelsac msgavsi<br />
operaciebis ganxorcieleba ekisreba,<br />
mosadi ewodeba. mosadi 1951<br />
wlis 1 seqtembers Seiqmna. mas sadazvervo<br />
informaciis Segroveba,<br />
analizi da qveynis farglebs gareT<br />
saidumlo davalebebis Sesruleba<br />
evaleba. mosadi imdenad efeqtianad<br />
moqmedebs, rom israel-<br />
Tan Ria konfrontacias msoflios<br />
lideri qveynebic ki eridebian.<br />
Seqmnis dRidanve israelis<br />
specsamsaxurebis saqmianoba mTlianad<br />
daxurulia. qveynis pirvelma<br />
premier-ministrma david ben-gurionma<br />
Tavad mosadis Seqmnis faqtic<br />
ki gaasaidumlova. aTweulebis man-<br />
Zilze israelis sazogadoebam mosadis<br />
xelmZRvanelTa vinaobac ki<br />
ar icoda. sakuTari qveynis specsamsaxurebis<br />
Sesaxeb informacias<br />
moqalaqeebi mxolod ucxouri mediis<br />
saSualebiT Tu igebdnen.<br />
mosadi mxolod qveynis umaRlesi<br />
politikuri pirebis sanqciiT<br />
moqmedebs da damoukidebel operaciebs<br />
arasodes atarebs. israelis<br />
specsamsaxurSi sul 2 aTasamde TanamSromelia,<br />
magram mTeli msoflios<br />
masStabiT maT moxaliseTa da<br />
informatorTa uzarmazari armia<br />
umagrebs zurgs. aseTi sistema mosads<br />
saSualebas aZlevs, israelis<br />
mtrad Seracxuli nebismieri pirovneba<br />
aRmoaCinos, rogorc ar unda<br />
imalebodes igi. TiToeuli operacia<br />
saguldagulod mzaddeba<br />
da misi ganxorcieleba mxolod ma-<br />
Sin iwyeba, rodesac yvelaze umniSvnelo<br />
detalic ki bolomdea gaTvlili.<br />
swored es meTodi ganapirobebs<br />
am specsamsaxuris saocar<br />
efeqtianobas.<br />
mosadma mravali saidumlo aqcia<br />
Caatara, magram TvalsaCinoebisTvis<br />
Cveni yuradReba or maTganze<br />
SevaCeroT, romelic naTlad<br />
asaxavs israelis fundamentur<br />
principebs mtrebis mimarT.<br />
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adolf aihmani<br />
israelis saxelmwifos SeqmnisTanave<br />
erT-erT upirveles amocanad<br />
im nacistebis moZebna da pasuxisgebaSi<br />
micemis sakiTxi dadga,<br />
romlebic ebraelTa genocidSi aqtiurad<br />
monawileobdnen. meore<br />
msoflio omis dros israelis moqalaqeTa<br />
umetesobam an Tavad gamoscada<br />
germanuli sakoncentracio<br />
banakebis saSineleba, an uamravi<br />
axlobeli dakarga. amitom<br />
maTi dasja axalgazrda israelis<br />
saxelmwifosTvis principisa da<br />
prestiJis saqme gaxda. am TvalsazrisiT,<br />
nomer pirveli samizne<br />
adolf aihmani iyo.<br />
„es-es”-is oberSturmanfiureri<br />
adolf aihmani germaniis saimperio<br />
usafrTxoebis sammarTveloSi IV-<br />
B-4 ganyofilebas xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
swored es ganyofileba uzrunvelyofda<br />
evropis masStabiT ebraelTa<br />
totaluri ganadgurebis<br />
process. aihmanis organizebiT sakoncentracio<br />
banakebSi 6 milionamde<br />
adamiani mokles, romelTa<br />
Soris umetesobas ebraelebi Seadgendnen.<br />
rodesac meore msoflio omi<br />
dasrulda, aihmani amerikelTa<br />
samxedro tyveTa banakSi moxvda.<br />
vinaidan igi iRliis qveS „es-es”-<br />
elisTvis savaldebulo damRas<br />
atarebda, man armiis oficrad Tavis<br />
gasaReba ver gabeda, magram arc<br />
simarTle uTqvams da amerikelebs<br />
ganucxada, rom omis dros „es-es”-<br />
is kavaleristTa diviziaSi ubralo<br />
oficrad msaxurobda.<br />
niurnbergis procesis mimdinareobisas,<br />
sadac sasamarTlos winaSe<br />
nacistTa umaRlesi rangis pirebi<br />
wardgnen, mowmeebma genocidis<br />
erT-erT mTavar Semoqmedad adolf<br />
aihmanic daasaxeles. aihmans<br />
SeeSinda, rom amerikelebi mas, adre<br />
Tu gvian, amoicnobdnen da banakidan<br />
gaiqca. 1950 wels „es-es”-<br />
elTa saidumlo organizacia „odessas”<br />
daxmarebiT, ojaxTan erTad,<br />
argentinaSi gadavida da buenosairesSi<br />
rikardo klementes saxeliT<br />
dafuZnda. igi samsaxurSic<br />
moewyo – yofilma „es-es”-elma<br />
„mersedes-bencis” argentinul<br />
filialSi daiwyo muSaoba.<br />
aihmanis aRmoCenaSi sakvanZo<br />
roli germanelma ebraelma, lo-<br />
Tar hermanma Seasrula, romelic<br />
aseve buenos-airesSi cxovrobda.<br />
Tavis droze, hermans germaneli<br />
qali hyavda colad, magram nacistebis<br />
periodSi aman ver uSvela da<br />
igi sakoncentracio banakSi aRmoCnda.<br />
banakSi gadatanili saSinelebebis<br />
Semdeg hermani TiTqmis<br />
dabrmavda, magram adolf aihmanis<br />
amocnoba mainc SeZlo. man icoda,<br />
rom aihmani marTlmsajulebas gaeqca<br />
da argentinaSi imaleboda. hermanma<br />
SemTxveviT gaigo, rom misi<br />
qaliSvilis megobari erTi axalgazrda,<br />
vinme nikolas aihmani iyo.<br />
nikolasi mis gogosTan trabaxobda,<br />
rom mamamiss nacistebis dros<br />
mTavrobaSi maRali Tanamdeboba<br />
ekava. hermani mixvda, rom saubari,<br />
didi albaTobiT, adolf aihmans<br />
exeboda da amis Sesaxeb germaniaSi<br />
Tavis nacnobs – hesenis miwis generalur<br />
prokuror fric bauers,<br />
Sesabamisi werili miswera. bauerisgan<br />
ki es informacia ukve israelis<br />
mxarem miiRo.<br />
mosadma aihmanis cocxlad Sepyrobisa<br />
da nacisti damnaSavis israelSi<br />
Camoyvanis davaleba miiRo.<br />
1958 wels argentinaSi specsamsaxuris<br />
TanamSromlebi gaemgzavrnen,<br />
romlebmac marTlac miagnes aihmans<br />
da misi sacxovrebeli misamar-<br />
Tic daadgines. yofili nacisti<br />
buenos-airesSi olivos raionSi,<br />
Cakabukos quCaze cxovrobda. Tumca,<br />
cota xanSi, mosadis agentebma<br />
aihmanis kvali dakarges. savaraudod,<br />
aihmani raRacas mixvda da<br />
misamarTi Seicvala. misi aRmoCena<br />
mxolod ori wlis Semdeg moxerxda.<br />
aihmanma saxli san-fernandos<br />
kvartalSi, garibaldis quCaze iyida.<br />
mosadis agentebma mas swored<br />
nasyidobis cnobis saSualebiT miakvlies.<br />
saxli veronika katarina<br />
libl de fihmanis saxelze iyo<br />
SeZenili. pirveli asos garda es<br />
saxeli da gvari mTlianad emTxve-<br />
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lisken gaemarTa. aihmani mosadis<br />
agentma piter malkinma daakava.<br />
malkini mas miuaxlovda da espanurad<br />
mimarTa: „erTi wuTiT, batono”.<br />
aihmani gaCerda. malkinma<br />
amiT isargebla, yofil „es-es”-els<br />
yelSi xeli wauWira da miwaze<br />
daagdo. danarCenma agentebma aihmani<br />
manqanaSi SeaTries. operacia<br />
sul 20 wami gagrZelda. aihmanma<br />
winaaRmdegobis gawevac ki ver<br />
moaswro.<br />
manqanaSi mas pirSi alikapi CaTxares,<br />
xel-fexi Seukres, Tvalebze<br />
Savi saTvale gaukeTes da Tavze<br />
tomara Camoacves, Semdeg manqana<br />
buenos-airesis gareubanSi, mosadis<br />
mier naqiravebi konspiraciuli<br />
binisken gaemarTa. aihmani manqanidan<br />
gadmoiyvanes, saguldagulod<br />
gaCxrikes da dakiTxes. pirvelive<br />
dakiTxvaze aihmanma Tavisi vinaoba<br />
aRiara.<br />
konspiraciul saxlSi aihmani 9<br />
dRis ganmavlobaSi imyofeboda.<br />
dRis umetesi nawili igi xelborkilebiT<br />
sawolze iyo mijaWvuli<br />
da Tvalebi hqonda axveuli, raTa<br />
badragis saxe ar amoecno. agentebs<br />
kategoriulad aekrZalaT tyves-<br />
Tan kontaqtSi Sesvla. im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu argentinis policia aihmans<br />
Zebnas dauwyebda da konspiraciul<br />
saxls aRmoaCenda, jgufs<br />
nabrZanebi hqonda, nebismier fasad<br />
gaeyvana tyve sxva adgilas. Tu<br />
es ver moxerxdeboda, maSin erTerTi<br />
agenti xelborkilebiT aihmans<br />
unda dabmoda, gasaRebi gadaegdo<br />
da policiisTvis tyvis namdvili<br />
vinaoba ecnobebina. akrZaluli<br />
iyo mosadTan kavSiris gamJRavneba.<br />
policiis mier dakavebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi agentebs unda ganecxadebinaT,<br />
rom isini israelis<br />
Cveulebrivi moqalaqeebi iyvnen,<br />
romlebic sakuTari iniciativiT<br />
moqmedebdnen.<br />
dakiTxvis dros mosadis Tanam-<br />
Sromlebma aihmanisgan aRiarebiTi<br />
Cvenebis mopoveba SeZles. tyvem<br />
werilobiTi Tanxmoba ganacxada,<br />
rom igi mzad aris wardges israelis<br />
sasamarTlos winaSe: „me, adolf<br />
aihmani, nebayoflobiT vacxadeb<br />
Semdegs: axla, rodesac cnobili<br />
gaxda Cemi namdvili vinaoba,<br />
azri aRar aqvs davemalo marTlmsajulebas.<br />
me Tanaxma var, gavemgzavro<br />
israelSi da warvdge kompetenturi<br />
sasamarTlos winaSe. TavisTavad<br />
cxadia, rom me miviReb<br />
iuridiul dacvas da movyvebi yvelafers,<br />
rac ukavSirdeba germania-<br />
Si Cems samsaxurs. arafers davmalav,<br />
raTa momavalma Taobam icodes<br />
im movlenebis namdvili sura-<br />
Ti. am gacxadebas xels vawer nebayoflobiT.<br />
me arafers Sempirebian<br />
da arc aravin dammuqrebia. me minda,<br />
bolos da bolos, sulieri sim-<br />
Svide vipovo. vinaidan ar SemiZlia<br />
dawvrilebiT aRvidgino warsulis<br />
yvela detali da xandaxan movlenebis<br />
Tanmimdevrobac mereva, gTxovT<br />
momceT saSualeba, gavecno Sesabamis<br />
dokumentebs da mowmeTa<br />
Cvenebebs, romelic damexmareba<br />
mexsierebis gacocxlebaSi. adolf<br />
aihmani. buenos-airesi, 1960 wlis<br />
maisi”.<br />
19 maiss israelis samTavrobo<br />
TviTmfrinavi buenos-airesis aeroportSi<br />
daeSva. 20 maisis saRamos<br />
aihmani narkotikebiT gaabrues da<br />
israelis mfrinavis uniforma Caacves.<br />
Semdeg igi aeroportSi waiyvanes.<br />
sazRvarze, sapasporto kontrolis<br />
gavlisas, mosadis agentebma<br />
argentinel mesazRvreebs mfrinav<br />
rafael arnonis saxelze gacemuli<br />
yalbi pasporti warudgines,<br />
sadac aihmanis suraTi iyo<br />
Cakruli.<br />
mosadma aihmanis TviTmfrinavSi<br />
ayvanis operaciac saguldagulod<br />
moamzada. 19 maiss israelis specsamsaxurma<br />
mfrinav arnonis daxmarebiT,<br />
buenos-airesis erT-erT<br />
quCaze avtosagzao SemTxvevis inscenireba<br />
moawyo. avariis Semdeg<br />
argentinis policiam arnoni saavadmyofoSi<br />
gadaiyvana. vinaidan<br />
mfrinavs seriozuli dazianeba ar<br />
aReniSneboda, igi saavadmyofodan<br />
meore dResve – 20 maiss gaweres.<br />
Tumca arnonma daiJina, rom mas<br />
Tavis tkivili awuxebda da argentinel<br />
eqimebs misTvis Sesabamisi<br />
cnobis gacema mosTxova. saavadmyofom<br />
Semdegi cnoba gamouwera:<br />
„...pacients SeuZlia eqimis meTvalyureobis<br />
qveS TviTmfrinaviT<br />
mgzavroba...” swored es cnoba warudgines<br />
yalb pasportTan erTad<br />
mosadis agentebma argentinel mesazRvreebs<br />
aihmanis gadayvanisas.<br />
argentinelebs eWvic ki ar auRiaT,<br />
rom ebraeli mfrinavis nacvlad<br />
maT winaSe narkotikebiT gabruebuli<br />
adolf aihmani iyo.<br />
aihmanis gauCinarebis Semdeg<br />
germanuli saTvistomos 300 wevri<br />
mas erTi kviris ganmavlobaSi eZebda.<br />
argentinaSi gadabargebulma<br />
nacisturi partiis yofilma wevrebma<br />
sadReRamiso morigeoba da<br />
meTvalyureoba daaweses sazRvao<br />
navsadgurebze, aeroportebze,<br />
rkinigzis sadgurebze, magram aihmanis<br />
aRmoCena ver moaxerxes.<br />
saqmeSi argentinis policiac CaerTo,<br />
magram uSedegod.<br />
21 maiss israelis samTavrobo<br />
TviTmfrinavi ierusalimSi daeSva<br />
da Tan aihmani Camoiyvana. 22 maiss<br />
israelis parlamentis, igive qnese-<br />
Tis sxdomaze israelis premierministrma<br />
david ben-gurionma gamoacxada,<br />
rom „adolf aihmani israelSi<br />
imyofeba da male sasamarTlos<br />
winaSe wardgeba”.<br />
mas Semdeg, rac cnobili gaxda,<br />
rom aihmani israelSi gaitaces,<br />
argentinis xelisuflebam israeli<br />
ukanono qmedebaSi daadanaSaula.<br />
1960 wlis 8 ivniss argentinam oficialurad<br />
moiTxova aihmanis dabruneba,<br />
15 ivniss ki argentinam israels<br />
gaeroSi uCivla. protestSi<br />
ewera, rom am moqmedebiT israeli<br />
uxeSad arRvevda argentinis suverenitets<br />
da es SemTxveva safrTxes<br />
uqmnis mSvidobas mTel msoflioSi.<br />
am sakiTxis gansaxilvelad gaeroSi<br />
specialuri TaTbiri gaimarTa.<br />
israelis sagareo saqmeTa ministrma<br />
golda meirma argentinas<br />
oficialuri bodiSi mouxada, magram<br />
iqve daamata, rom Seqmnil vi-<br />
TarebaSi israelis aseTi qmedeba<br />
gamarTlebuli iyo. oficialuri<br />
versiiT, aihmani ebraelma moxaliseebma<br />
israelis mTavrobis ukiTxvad<br />
gaitaces. mosadis monawileoba<br />
am gatacebaSi argentinam ver<br />
daamtkica.<br />
aihmanis sasamarTlo weliwadnaxevari<br />
gagrZelda. procesze holokostis<br />
uamravi mowme daikiTxa.<br />
ebraelebis winaaRmdeg Cadenili<br />
danaSaulis, kacobriobis winaSe<br />
Cadenili danaSaulisa da samxedro<br />
danaSaulis gamo 1961 wlis 15 dekembers<br />
aihmani damnaSaved cnes da<br />
mas sasikvdilo ganaCeni gamoutanes.<br />
israelis prezidentma icxak<br />
ben-cvim Sewyalebis Txovna ar<br />
daakmayofila. yofili „es-es”-eli<br />
maRalCinosani 1962 wlis 1 ivniss<br />
qalaq ramlas cixeSi CamoaxrCves.<br />
sasikvdilo ganaCeni sisruleSi moiyvana<br />
cixis zedamxedvelma Salom<br />
nagarma.<br />
sikvdilis win aihmanma uari ganacxada<br />
Tvalebis axvevaze da bolos<br />
sityva warmoTqva: „gaumarjos<br />
germanias! gaumarjos argentinas!<br />
gaumarjos avstrias! am sam qveyanas<br />
ukavSirdeba Cemi sicocxle da me<br />
maT arasodes daviviwyeb. me mivesalmebi<br />
Cems meuRles, ojaxs da<br />
megobrebs. me valdebuli viyavi,<br />
damecva omis wesebi da vemsaxurebodi<br />
Cems droSas. me mzad var...”<br />
sikvdilis Semdeg aihmanis cxedari<br />
dawves, xolo misi ferfli xmel-<br />
TaSua zRvaSi, israelis teritoriuli<br />
wylebis miRma gafantes.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom 1954 wels<br />
qneseTma israelSi sikvdilis sasjeli<br />
gaauqma da igi mxolod genocidisa<br />
da omis periodSi kacobriobis<br />
winaSe Cadenili danaSaulis<br />
gamovlenis dros datova moqmedi.<br />
aihmanis sikvdiliT dasja erTaderTi<br />
SemTxvevaa, rodesac israelis<br />
sasamarTlom am normis gamoyenebaze<br />
Tanxmoba ganacxada.<br />
aihmanis operacia TvalsaCino<br />
magaliTia imisa, rom udidesi sir-<br />
Tulisa da winaaRmdegobis miuxedavad,<br />
ebrauli saxelmwifo Seuracxyofas<br />
aravis patiobs.<br />
operacia „RvTis risxva”<br />
samSoblos Rirsebis dasacavad<br />
israelis specsamsaxurebis mier<br />
Catarebul meore TvalsaCino operacias<br />
koduri saxeli „RvTis<br />
risxva” hqvia. operacia 1972 wels<br />
daiwyo da 1992 wlamde mimdinareobda.<br />
1972 wels miunxenis rigiT<br />
meoce zafxulis olimpiadaze,<br />
palestinis teroristulma organizacia<br />
„Savma seqtemberma” mZevlad<br />
israelis olimpiuri nakrebis<br />
wevrebi aiyvana. germaneli samar-<br />
Taldamcvelebis mier mZevlebis<br />
ganTavisuflebis operacia kraxiT<br />
dasrulda da yvela ebraeli sportsmeni<br />
daiRupa.<br />
teroristuli aqtis mizezi saerTaSoriso<br />
olimpiuri komitetis<br />
gadawyvetileba gaxda, romelmac<br />
uari ganacxada olimpiur TamaSebze<br />
palestinis delegaciis daSvebaze.<br />
olimpiadis dawyebamde ramdenime<br />
kviriT adre „Savi seqtembris”<br />
wevrebma yalbi dokumentebiT miunxenSi<br />
Tavmoyra daiwyes.<br />
5 seqtembers, gamTeniisas, palestinelma<br />
teroristebma olimpiuri<br />
soflis teritoriaze SeaRwies<br />
da israelis nakrebis sacxovrebel<br />
korpusSi SeiWrnen. Tavdasxmisas<br />
teroristebs winaaRmdegoba<br />
orma ebraelma sportsmenma gauwia,<br />
magram isini adgilzeve Cacxriles.<br />
israelis delegaciis 9 wevri<br />
palestinelTa tyveobaSi aRmoCnda.<br />
teroristebma miunxenis policias<br />
acnobes, rom mZevalTa gan-<br />
Tavisuflebis sanacvlod isini<br />
TviTmfrinavs da cixidan 100-ze<br />
meti maTi Tanamoazris gaSvebas iTxoven.<br />
miunxenSi saswrafod Cafrinda<br />
germaniis kancleri vili brandti.<br />
specialur sxdomaze, romelsac<br />
bavariis Sinagan saqmeTa ministri<br />
da miunxenis policiis Sefic<br />
eswrebodnen, gadawyda, rom germania<br />
ar ayveboda teroristTa SantaJs<br />
da maT moTxovnebs ar daakmayofilebda.<br />
ebraeli sportsmenebis ganTavisuflebis<br />
mizniT, mosadi mzad iyo,<br />
miunxenSi specialuri jgufi gaegzavna,<br />
magram germaniis xelisuflebam<br />
amaze uari ganacxada. teroristebTan<br />
molaparakebis mZime<br />
procesi daiwyo. saqme iqamde mivida,<br />
rom kancleris vaJma – peter<br />
brandtma, mZevlebis sanacvlod<br />
palestinelebs sakuTri Tavi<br />
SesTavaza, magram isini moTxovnebs<br />
ar cvlidnen.<br />
israelma olimpiur komitets<br />
olimpiuri TamaSebis SeCerebis<br />
TxovniT mimarTa, magram uari miiRo.<br />
uari Semdegnairad axsnes:<br />
„televiziebs olimpiuri TamaSebis<br />
sxva programebiT Canacvlebis<br />
saSualeba ar gaaCniaT”.<br />
bolos teroristebs ori vertmfreni<br />
gamouyves, romlis saSualebiTac<br />
mZevlebi da palestinelebi<br />
samxedro aeroportSi gadafrindnen.<br />
magram maT TviTmfrinav-<br />
Si asvla ver moaswres. germanulma<br />
policiam teroristTa mimarTulebiT<br />
cecxli gaxsna. ormxrivi srolis<br />
Sedegad daiRupa israelis<br />
sportuli delegaciis yvela wevri<br />
da 5 teroristi. germanelebma sami<br />
palestinelis dakaveba moaxerxes.<br />
operaciis dasrulebis Semdeg<br />
israelma kvlav mimarTa germaniis<br />
mTavrobas da dakavebuli teroristebis<br />
gadmocema iTxova, magram<br />
amazec uari miiRo. vili brandtma<br />
ganacxada, rom maT germania gaasamarTlebda.<br />
palestinelebi ramdenime<br />
dReSi gaaTavisufles. saqme<br />
is aris, rom Ziebis procesSi organizacia<br />
„Savi seqtembris” wevrebma<br />
„lufthanzis” samgzavro TviTmfrinavi<br />
gaitaces, romelic damasko-frankfurtis<br />
reiss asrulebda.<br />
Tu germaniis mTavroba teroristebs<br />
ar gaaTvisuflebda, palestinelebi<br />
TviTmfrinavSi myofi<br />
yvela mgzavris daxocviT imuqrebodnen.<br />
germaniis xelisufleba<br />
iZulebuli gaxda, maTi pirobebi<br />
mieRo. teraqtidan sul ramdenime<br />
dRis Semdeg sam terorists sam-<br />
SobloSi gmirebis msgavsi daxvedra<br />
mouwyves. saerTaSoriso sazogadoebam<br />
momxdar faqtTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT mxolod Rrma mwuxareba<br />
gamoTqva da terorizmTan gadam-<br />
Wreli brZolis Sesaxeb israelis<br />
mowodeba uyuradRebod datova.<br />
israelis sazogadoeba SurisZiebas<br />
iTxovda. SurisZiebaze laparakobdnen<br />
quCaSi, universiteteb-<br />
Si, kafeebSi. xalxi aRSfoTebuli<br />
iyo da israelis Rirsebis aRsadgenad<br />
mTavrobisgan qmediTi nabijis<br />
gadadgmas eloda. Tumca israelis<br />
xelisuflebas am sakiTxSi<br />
sazogadoebis mxridan iZuleba ar<br />
sWirdeboda. mTavroba sazogadoebis<br />
msgavsad fiqrobda. qveynis<br />
premier-ministrma golda meirma<br />
specoperaciis Catarebis gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo. qneseTSi gamosvlisas<br />
golda meirma ganacxada,<br />
rom israeli mis xelT arsebul<br />
yvela saSualebas gamoiyenebs da<br />
teraqtis organizatorebi sadac<br />
ar unda imalebodnen, isini mainc<br />
ver gaeqcevian samarTlian SurisZiebas.<br />
premieris davalebiT mosadma<br />
specialuri jgufi Camoayaliba,<br />
romlis wevrebsac organizacia<br />
„Savi seqtembrisa” da maTi mokav-<br />
Sireebis liderTa fizikuri ganadgureba<br />
daevala.<br />
mosadma moqmedeba daiwyo: 1972<br />
wlis 16 oqtombers romSi saku-<br />
Tari sacxovrebeli saxlis win<br />
daxvrites palestinis ganTavisuflebis<br />
organizaciis erT-erTi<br />
lideri abdel vail zuaiteri; 8<br />
dekembers saxlis telefonSi damontaJebuli<br />
asafeTqebeli mowyobilobis<br />
saSualebiT parizSi mokles<br />
„Savi seqtembris” erT-erTi<br />
lideri, miunxenis teraqtis koordinatori<br />
mahmud al-hamSari; 1973<br />
wlis 24 ianvars niqoziaSi sastumros<br />
nomerSi aafeTqes husein abd<br />
al-Siri; imave wlis 6 aprils parizSi,<br />
dRisiT, quCaSi mokles bazil<br />
al kubaiSi da a. S. 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
mosadma miunxenis teraqtis<br />
organizatori 13 palestineli<br />
aqtivisti gaanadgura. sagulisxmoa,<br />
rom am operaciaSi monawile<br />
mosadis TanamSromlebi davalebis<br />
Sesrulebis dros saerTod mowydnen<br />
samSoblos da ojaxs, magram<br />
isini maSin mxolod israelis Rirsebasa<br />
da samSoblos prestiJze<br />
fiqrobdnen.<br />
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30 universiteti, 24 saswavlo universiteti da 10-mde kolejia,<br />
romlebic avtorizebul umaRles dawesebulebebad iTvleba.<br />
universiteti umaRlesi saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebaa,<br />
romelic axorcielebs samive safexuris umaRles sagan-<br />
manaTleblo programebsa da samecniero kvlevebs. saswavlo<br />
universiteti axorcielebs umaRles saganmanaTleblo programas/programebs<br />
(garda doqtoranturisa); koleji ki umaRlesi<br />
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umaRlesi ganaTlebis mxolod pirveli safexuris sa-<br />
ganmanaTleblo programas.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom Cvens<br />
qveyanaSi yoveldRiurad izrdeba<br />
ganaTlebis miRebis msurvelTa<br />
da im dawesebulebaTa<br />
raodenoba, romelic amis dakmayofilebas<br />
isaxavs miznad, ki-<br />
Txvis niSnis qveS dgas Tavad<br />
ganaTlebis xarisxi.<br />
mxolod raodenoba rom ar<br />
kmara, es faqtia. aucilebelia,<br />
yvela umaRlesi saswavlebeli<br />
da saganmanaTleblo dawesebuleba<br />
akmayofilebdes aRiarebul<br />
standartebs. am standartebTan<br />
universitetebisa da sxva<br />
dawesebulebebis Sesabamisobas<br />
ki avtorizacia-akreditaciis<br />
procesi amowmebs da aregulirebs.<br />
ra gansxvavebaa am or proceduras<br />
Soris da ra ZiriTadi<br />
maxasiaTeblebi aqvT maT?<br />
avtorizacia-akreditaciis<br />
procesi dinamikuria da erTmaneTisgan<br />
gasxvavdeba. avtorizacia<br />
aris gare Sefasebis meqanizmi,<br />
romelic adgens dawesebulebis<br />
TviTSefasebis Sedegebis<br />
Sesabamisobas saxelmwifos<br />
mier dadgenil standartebTan.<br />
avtorizacia savaldebuloa<br />
yvela saxis saganmanaTleblo<br />
dawesebulebisTvis Sesabamisi<br />
saqmianobis ganxorcielebisa da<br />
saxelmwifos mier aRiarebuli<br />
ganaTlebis damadasturebeli<br />
dokumentis gacemisTvis.<br />
xarvezebi umaRlesi<br />
ganaTlebis sistemaSi,<br />
anu ratom SeuCerdaT<br />
universitetebs<br />
avtorizacia?<br />
rac Seexeba akreditacias, is<br />
akreditaciis standartebTan<br />
saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebis<br />
saganmanaTleblo programebis<br />
Sesabamisobas gansazRvras.<br />
avtorizacia, rac gulisxmobs<br />
instituciur Sefasebas,<br />
Svid standarts moicavs. esenia:<br />
dawesebulebis misia da strategia;<br />
organizaciuli struqtura<br />
da marTva; saganmanaTleblo<br />
programebi; personali,<br />
studentebi da maTi mxardamWeri<br />
RonisZiebebi; kvleva, ganvi-<br />
Tareba sxva SemoqmedebiTi saqmianoba<br />
da aseve materialuri,<br />
sainformacio da finansuri resursebi.<br />
standartebi CaSlilia<br />
qvestandartebad, komponentebad<br />
da faravs saganmanaTleblo<br />
saqmianobis yvela aspeqts.<br />
amis garda, aRwers TiToeuli<br />
komponentis farglebSi misaRwev<br />
Sedegebs, ganmartavs Sefasebis<br />
kriteriumebs da gansazRvravs<br />
Sefasebis indikatorebs.<br />
es axali Sefasebis standartebia,<br />
romelic 2018 wlis 2<br />
martidan amoqmedda da bevrad<br />
20<br />
li centris avtorizaciis sab-<br />
Wos gadawyvetilebiT, or umaRles<br />
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universitet<br />
„hipokrates” da Sps „Tbilisis<br />
saerTaSoriso akademias” avtorizacia<br />
gauuqmda.<br />
orive saswavlebelSi erTad,<br />
daaxloebiT, 500-mde studenti<br />
iricxeba. eqspertTa jgufis<br />
daskvniT, aRniSnul saswavleblebSi<br />
darRvevebi dafiqsirda<br />
rogorc saswavlo procesis<br />
mimdinareobis, ise xarisxis mimarTulebiT.<br />
manamde, 2017 wlis dekember-<br />
Si, saswavleblis administraciis<br />
moTxovniT avtorizacia gauuqmda<br />
amerikis biznesis akademias.<br />
2018 wels akreditaciis sab-<br />
Wom sul 39 saganmanaTleblo<br />
programis akreditaciis sakiTxi<br />
ganixila. sabWos gadawyvetilebiT<br />
19 programas sruli<br />
akreditacia mieniWa, 7 progra-<br />
`is umaRlesebi, romlebic mobilobiT gadasul<br />
studentebs miiReben, maT mier ukve miRebul<br />
kreditebs afaseben da saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
studentebs individualur saswavlo gegmas<br />
sTavazoben, rom maT programis swavlis<br />
Sedegebze gasvla SeZlon~<br />
`avtorizacia-akreditaciis procesi dinamikuria da erTmaneTisgan<br />
gasxvavdeba. avtorizacia aris gare Sefasebis meqanizmi, romelic adgens<br />
dawesebulebis TviTSefasebis Sedegebis Sesabamisobas saxelmwifos mier<br />
dadgenil standartebTan. avtorizacia savaldebuloa yvela saxis<br />
saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebisTvis Sesabamisi saqmianobis ganxorcielebisa<br />
da saxelmwifos mier aRiarebuli ganaTlebis damadasturebeli dokumentis<br />
gacemisTvis. rac Seexeba akreditacias, is akreditaciis standartebTan<br />
saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebis saganmanaTleblo programebis<br />
Sesabamisobas gansazRvras~<br />
garTulebul procedurebs<br />
sTavazobs qarTul umaRles<br />
saswavleblebs.<br />
am standartebis garTulebis<br />
saWiroeba umaRlesi ganaTlebis<br />
sferoSi arsebulma<br />
xarvezebma da aRmoCenilma dar-<br />
Rvevebma Seqmna.<br />
am procesebs ki ori umaRlesi<br />
saswavleblis avtorizacis<br />
gauqmeba uZRoda win.<br />
mimdinare wels, ganaTlebis<br />
xarisxis ganviTarebis erovnumas<br />
pirobiTi akreditacia mieca,<br />
xolo 12 programas akreditaciaze<br />
uari eTqva.<br />
ganaTlebis ministris TqmiT,<br />
monitoringis procesi universitetebSi<br />
ganaTlebis xarisxis<br />
amaRlebasa da realuri codnis<br />
miRebis SesaZleblobas emsaxureba.<br />
is aseve iZleva pirobas,<br />
rom avtorizaciaSeCerebuli<br />
universitetis studentebi mobilobis<br />
saSualebiT maTvis sasurvel<br />
universitetebSi gadanawildebian<br />
da swavlis srulfasovnad<br />
gagrZelebisa da ganaTlebis<br />
miRebis saSualeba miecemaT.<br />
umaRlesi saswavleblebis avtorizacia/akreditaciis<br />
periodi<br />
6 wlis vadiT ganisazRvreba,<br />
Tumca periodulad tardeba<br />
universitetebisa da sxva saswavleblebis<br />
aragegmuri monitoringi,<br />
romelic amowmebs<br />
maT sxvadasxva kriteriumis Sesabamisad<br />
da gamovlenili dar-<br />
Rvevebis SemTxvevaSi myisier<br />
reagirebas iTvaliswinebs.<br />
swored msgavsi aragegmuri<br />
monitoringis Sedegad dafiqsirebul<br />
xarvezebs mohyva ori<br />
umaRlesi saswavleblis avtorizaciis<br />
SeCereba da maTi funqcionirebas<br />
Sewyveta.<br />
rogoria axali standartebi<br />
da ramdenad aqvs sxva umaRles<br />
saswavleblebs am gar-<br />
Tulebul standartebTan gam-<br />
klavebis SesaZlebloba?<br />
„qronika+~-s am da sxva mniS-<br />
vnelovan kiTxvebze pasuxobs<br />
ganaTlebis xarisxis ganvi-<br />
Tarebis centris umaRlesi sa-<br />
ganmanaTleblo dawesebulebebis<br />
avtorizaciis sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosi _ qeTi cotniaSvi-<br />
li:<br />
_ avtorizacia SeuCerda or<br />
umaRles saswavlebels. eqspertTa<br />
jgufis daskvniT, aRniSnul<br />
saswavleblebSi darRvevebi<br />
dafiqsirda rogorc saswav-<br />
lo procesis mimdinareobis,<br />
ise xarisxis mimarTulebiT.<br />
rom gviTxraT, ra konkretul<br />
darRvevebzea saubari?<br />
_ avtorizacia gauuqmda 4<br />
umaRles saswavlebels. erTma<br />
maTganma Tavad momarTa centrs<br />
gancxadebiT avtorizaciis gauqmebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. 3 umaRlesSi<br />
monitoringi ganxorcielda.<br />
aRniSnul saswavleblebSi<br />
iseTi saxis darRvevebi da Seu-<br />
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sabamobebi dafiqsirda, romlebic<br />
saganmanaTleblo procesis<br />
srulfasovan ganxorcielebas<br />
ver uzrunvelyofda. magaliTad,<br />
iyo SemTxveva, rodesac<br />
kiTxvis niSnis qveS idga saswavlo<br />
procesis mimdinareoba.<br />
eqspertebma naxes, rom dasawyobebuli<br />
iyo biblioTeka; samedicino<br />
programebis SemTxveva-<br />
Si aseve dasawyobebuli iyo mulaJebi;<br />
saswavlo procesi ar<br />
mimdinareobda saswavlo cxrilis<br />
Sesabamisad; darRveuli iyos<br />
medicinis dargobrivi maxasiaTebeli;<br />
qarTulenovan programebze<br />
Caricxuli iyvnen ucxoeli<br />
studentebi, romlebsac<br />
ar udasturdebodaT qarTuli<br />
enis saTanado doneze codna;<br />
gaumarTavi iyo Sida xarisxis<br />
marTvis meqanizmi, rac riskis<br />
qveS ayenebs saganmanaTleblo<br />
programebis xarisxs; umaRlesebis<br />
saqmianoba acdenili iyo<br />
maT mierve SemuSavebul strategiul<br />
da samoqmedo gegmebs;<br />
problemebi iyo menejmentis<br />
kuTxiT; darRvevebi iyo materialuri<br />
resursebis nawilSic,<br />
sadac umaRlesebs ar hqondaT<br />
Sesabamisi aRWurviloba saganmanaTleblo<br />
programebiT gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
praqtikuli da<br />
laboratoriuli komponentebis<br />
normalurad gansaxorcieleblad;<br />
moZvelebuli iyo saswavlo<br />
literatura.<br />
_ xarisxis ganviTarebis<br />
erovnuli centri studentebis<br />
interesebis gaTvaliswine-<br />
biT uzrunvelyofs riggareSe<br />
mobilobas im umaRlesi saswav-<br />
leblebis studentebisTvis,<br />
romlebsac avtorizacia SeuwydaT.<br />
ras gulisxmobs es mobi-<br />
loba da rodidan daiwyeba es<br />
procesi?<br />
_ ganaTlebis xarisxis centri<br />
weliwadSi orjer, Semodgomisa<br />
da gazafxulis semestrebis<br />
dawyebamde, acxadebs gegmuri<br />
mobilobis process, romlis<br />
saSualebiTac sxvadasxva<br />
umaRlesSi Caricxul studentebs<br />
SeuZliaT gadavidnen maT-<br />
Tvis sasurvel sxva umaRlesSi,<br />
xolo im SemTxvevaSi, Tu umaRlesebs<br />
uuqmdebaT avtorizacia<br />
an konkretul programebs uuqmdebaT<br />
akreditacia, centri<br />
ministris brZanebiT acxadebs<br />
riggareSe mobilobas, raTa msgavs<br />
umaRlesebsa Tu programebze<br />
Caricxul studentebs swavlis<br />
sxva umaRles saganmanaTleblo<br />
dawesebulebaSi gagr-<br />
Zelebisa da dasrulebis SesaZlebloba<br />
mieceT. es procesi<br />
amJamadac mimdinareobs<br />
im umaRlesebis<br />
studentebisTvis, romlebsac<br />
bolo dros<br />
gauuqmdaT avtorizacia<br />
an programebs<br />
_ akreditacia.<br />
_ is, rom ramdenime<br />
universitetsa<br />
da programas<br />
SeuCerda avtorizacia<br />
xarisx-<br />
is<br />
dabali<br />
donis gamo,<br />
stu-<br />
dentebSi<br />
eWvs<br />
ba-<br />
debs, rom<br />
qeTi cotniaSvili<br />
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`mimdinare wels, ganaTlebis xarisxis ganviTarebis erovnuli<br />
centris avtorizaciis sabWos gadawyvetilebiT, or umaRles<br />
saswavlebels: Sps samedicino-saswavlo universitet "hipokrates"<br />
da Sps "Tbilisis saerTaSoriso akademias" avtorizacia<br />
gauuqmda. orive saswavlebelSi erTad, daaxloebiT, 500-mde<br />
studenti iricxeba. eqspertTa jgufis daskvniT, aRniSnul<br />
saswavleblebSi darRvevebi dafiqsirda rogorc saswavlo<br />
procesis mimdinareobis, ise xarisxis mimarTulebiT~<br />
rac amdeni xani iswavles, uxarisxo<br />
da arsebul standartebTan<br />
Seusabamo iyo. ras fiqr-<br />
obT amasTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ rogorc zemoT aRvniSne,<br />
programebis akreditaciisa da<br />
umaRlesebis avtorizaciis gauqmebis<br />
Semdeg studentebi mobilobis<br />
procesiT sargebloben.<br />
is umaRlesebi, romlebic<br />
mobilobiT gadasul studentebs<br />
miiReben, maT mier ukve miRebul<br />
kreditebs afaseben da sa-<br />
Wiroebis SemTxvevaSi studentebs<br />
individualur saswavlo gegmas<br />
sTavazoben, rom maT programis<br />
swavlis Sedegebze gasvla<br />
SeZlon.<br />
_ ras gvetyviT axal stan-<br />
dartebze, romelic 2 martidan<br />
amoqmedda? es SedarebiT garTulebuli<br />
procesia da rogor<br />
fiqrobT, ramdenad daakmayofileben<br />
qarTuli umaRlesi<br />
saswavleblebi am axal stan-<br />
dartebs?<br />
_ avtorizaciis axali standartebi<br />
2017 wlis 5 maiss damtkicda.<br />
aRniSnulis Semdeg,<br />
2018 wlis 1-l ianvramde, umaRlesebs<br />
miecaT dro, rom TavianTi<br />
saqmianobis standartebTan<br />
SesabamisobaSi moyvana daewyoT.<br />
axali standartebi iTvaliswinebs<br />
evropis umaRlesi ganaTlebis<br />
sivrcis moTxovnebs<br />
da umaRlesi saganmanaTleblo<br />
dawesebulebebis saqmianobis<br />
srul speqtrs faravs. Tu adre<br />
mxolod saganmanaTleblo programebi,<br />
adamianuri resursi da<br />
materialuri resursi mowmde-<br />
boda, axal standartebs daemata<br />
misia da strategiuli ganviTarebis,<br />
organizaciuli<br />
struqturisa da marTvis, studenturi<br />
mxardaWeris servisebisa<br />
da kvlevis standarti. amasTan,<br />
detalurad moxda imis<br />
gawera, Tu ra kriteriumebi unda<br />
daakmayofilon umaRlesebma<br />
TiToeul standartTan mimarTebiT<br />
dadebiTi Sefasebis misaRebad.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
standartebis moTxovna gaizarda,<br />
cvlilebebi Sevida gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebis midgomebSi.<br />
Tu winaT mxolod avtorizaciis<br />
Sesaxeb an avtorizaciis gauqmebis<br />
Sesaxeb miiReboda gadawyvetileba,<br />
axla Sefaseba xdeba<br />
oTxskaliani sistemiT: sruli<br />
Sesabamisoba, metwili Sesabamisoba,<br />
nawilobrivi Sesabamisoba<br />
da Seusabamoba. avtorizacia<br />
uqmdeba mxolod Seusabamobis<br />
SemTxvevaSi; Tuki nawilobrivi<br />
Sesabamisoba dgindeba<br />
programebisa da personalis<br />
standartis nawilSi umaRlesebs<br />
garkveuli periodiT (minimum,<br />
1 wliT) SeezRudebaT studentebis<br />
axali kontingentis<br />
miRebis ufleba.<br />
_ axlo momavalSi igegmeba<br />
Tu ara msgavsi aragegmuri<br />
monitoringi umaRlesi gana-<br />
Tlebis sferoSi da ra molodini<br />
gaqvT, avtorizaciaSeCe-<br />
rebuli universitetebis beds<br />
xom ar gaiziarebs sxva umaR-<br />
lesi saswavleblebic?<br />
_ umaRlesebis saavtorizacio<br />
da monitoringis Sefasebebi<br />
mudmiv reJimSi xorcieldeba.<br />
rogorc viciT, bevri umaRlesi<br />
aqtiurad muSaobs imisTvis,<br />
rom SesabamisobaSi movides<br />
standartebis axal moTxovnebTan.<br />
rogorc aRvniSne,<br />
ufro moqnili gaxda Sefasebis<br />
sistema. aRniSnulidan gamomdinare,<br />
Sedegebi metwilad damokidebuli<br />
iqneba imaze, Tu<br />
rogor moemzadebian da imuSaveben<br />
umaRlesebi TavianTi<br />
saqmianobis gasaumjobeseblad.<br />
_ axal moTxovnebs Soris gansakuTrebuli<br />
aqcenti keTdeba<br />
im kuTxiT, ramdenad Seesabameba<br />
programa da kursdamTa-<br />
vrebulis kvalifikacia bazris<br />
moTxovnebs? ratom gaxda am<br />
axali punqtis damateba saWiro?<br />
bazris kvlevam an sxva sa-<br />
Wiroebebma xom ar aCvena, rom,<br />
realurad, kursdamTavrebul-<br />
ebs ar gaaCniaT sakmarisi da<br />
aucilebeli codna, raTa das-<br />
aqmdnen?<br />
_ damsaqmeblis CarTva Zalian<br />
mniSvnelovania. metic, mas pirdapiri<br />
gavlena aqvs saganmanaTleblo<br />
programis xarisxze. Catarebulia<br />
ramdenime kvleva, maT Soris,<br />
msoflio bankis mier, romelic<br />
aCvenebs, rom kursdamTavrebulebi<br />
miRebuli codniTa da kompetenciebiT<br />
ver Seesabamebian<br />
dasaqmebis bazarze arsebul da<br />
mudmivad cvlad moTxovnebs. amasTan,<br />
vxedavT, rom saqarTvelos<br />
saganmanaTleblo sivrceSi sakmaod<br />
bevri umaRlesia, romelic,<br />
jamurad, 2000-ze met programas<br />
axorcielebs, xolo darwmunebuli<br />
ar varT, rom programis kursdamTavrebulebisTvis<br />
potenciuri<br />
dasaqmebis bazari xelmisawvdomi<br />
iqneba. imisTvis, rom kursdamTavrebuli<br />
konkurentunariani<br />
gaxdes, saWiroa, rom umaRlesebma<br />
ama Tu im programis SemuSavebisas<br />
da ganviTrebisas swored<br />
dasaqmebis bazarze arsebuli<br />
moTxovnebiT ixelmZRvanelon<br />
da Semdeg ganaxorcielon saswavlo<br />
procesi, romelic kursdamTavrebuls<br />
Sesabamis swavlis<br />
Sedegze gaiyvans.<br />
`Tu adre mxolod saganmanaTleblo programebi, adamianuri resursi da<br />
materialuri resursi mowmdeboda, axal standartebs daemata misia da<br />
strategiuli ganviTarebis, organizaciuli struqturisa da marTvis,<br />
studenturi mxardaWeris servisebisa da kvlevis standarti. amasTan,<br />
detalurad moxda imis gawera, Tu ra kriteriumebi unda daakmayofilon<br />
umaRlesebma TiToeul standartTan mimarTebiT dadebiTi Sefasebis<br />
misaRebad. miuxedavad imisa, rom standartebis moTxovna gaizarda,<br />
cvlilebebi Sevida gadawyvetilebis miRebis midgomebSi. Tu winaT mxolod<br />
avtorizaciis Sesaxeb an avtorizaciis gauqmebis Sesaxeb miiReboda<br />
gadawyvetileba, axla Sefaseba xdeba oTxskaliani sistemiT: sruli<br />
Sesabamisoba, metwili Sesabamisoba, nawilobrivi Sesabamisoba da<br />
Seusabamoba. avtorizacia uqmdeba mxolod Seusabamobis SemTxvevaSi~<br />
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sasamarTlo sistemis gaumWvir-<br />
valobisa da masSi gabatonebuli klanis aqtualoba, amjerad,<br />
38 arasamTavrobo organizaciisgan Semdgarma koaliciam daay-<br />
ena dRis wesrigSi. „minda, vendo sasamarTlos” _ es aris axali<br />
kampania, romelic pirvel marts daiwyo da romlis mizanic<br />
Zireuli da realuri reformebis ganxorcielebaa.<br />
maTi gancxadebiT dRes sasamarTlo<br />
Semdegi gamowvevebis winaSe<br />
dgas:<br />
• sasamarTlo sistemis gajansaRebisTvis<br />
arasaTanado politikuri<br />
neba;<br />
• sasamarTlo sistemaSi arsebuli<br />
klanuri mmarTveloba;<br />
• mosamarTleebis Tanamdebobebze<br />
daniSvnis gaumWvirvale<br />
da dausabuTebeli gadawyvetilebebi.<br />
koalicia ki aRniSnuli kampaniiT<br />
moiTxovs:<br />
• politikurma xelisuflebam<br />
aiRos Tavisi wili pasuxismgebloba<br />
sasamarTlo sistemaSi arsebul<br />
krizisze;<br />
• sasamarTlo sistema ganTavisufldes<br />
klanuri mmarTvelobisgan;<br />
• prokuratura dainteresdes<br />
da srulfasovnad gamoiZios mar-<br />
Tlmsajulebis sistemasTan dakavSirebuli<br />
yvela SesaZlo danaSaulis<br />
SemTxveva;<br />
• parlamentma dauyovnebliv<br />
gaataros realuri reformebi,<br />
ris safuZvelzec sasamarTloSi<br />
arsebuli gavleniani jgufi veRar<br />
SeZlebs, kanonmdebloba arajansaRi<br />
miznebisTvis gamoiyenos.<br />
kampanias win uZRoda mimdinare<br />
wlis 22 Tebervals iusticiis<br />
sabWos mier 44 mosamarTlis<br />
uvadod daniSvna, romelTa Soris<br />
arian: mosamarTle manuCar kapanaZe<br />
(sulxan molaSvilis saqmis<br />
ganmxilveli), mosamarTle giorgi<br />
goginaSvili (sergo TeTraZis<br />
saqmis ganmxilveli), Sorena guncaZe<br />
(„baxalas” mosamarTle), mosamarTle<br />
naTia gujabiZe („rusTavi<br />
2"-is saqmis mosamarTle)<br />
da sxvebi.<br />
swored am da sxva mkafiod<br />
gamoxatuli klanuri, gaumWvirvale<br />
Tu subieqturad saqmis<br />
ganxilvebis gamo arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebi Sesabamisi Ronis-<br />
Ziebebis gatarebas iwyeben da<br />
realur reformas moiTxoven.<br />
„qronika+~ esaubra „axalga-<br />
zrda iuristTa asociaciis”<br />
warmomadgenel eka cimakuriZes,<br />
romelmac mkiTxvelisTvis zedmiwevniT<br />
axsna, Tu ra aris kam-<br />
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`aRmoCnda (da maSinac vakritikebdiT, roca<br />
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parlamentSi), gatarebuli reformebi ar<br />
uzrunvelyofs mosamarTleebis obieqturad<br />
SerCevas. rogorc am reformamde iniSnebodnen<br />
mosamarTleebi, igivea dResac (maSindeli<br />
problema is gaxldaT, rom mosamarTleebi<br />
subieqturad iniSnebodnen da daniSvnis<br />
gadawyvetilebebi ar efuZneboda dadgenil<br />
kriteriumebs. dResac analogiurad asea.<br />
faqtobrivad, veraviTar kritikas ver uZlebs<br />
daniSvnis es procesi), - odiozuri figurebi<br />
iniSnebian Tanamdebobebze da is adamianebi<br />
winaurdebian sasamarTlo sistemaSi maRal<br />
Tanamdebobebze, romlebic usamarTlo<br />
marTlmsajulebasTan asocirdebian, rogorc<br />
adre xdeboda~<br />
_ rogor iniSnebian am klanis<br />
wverebi?<br />
_ roca procesebs veswrebiT,<br />
naTlad Cans, Tu rogor marTavs<br />
sistemas klani. mosamarTleebis<br />
detalurad Sefasebis Zalian<br />
bevri kriteriumia dadgenili,<br />
ZiriTadi ori kriteriumi ki aris<br />
keTilsindisiereba da profesionalizmi<br />
(Semdeg CaSlilia, Tu<br />
ras gulisxmobs es ori cneba da<br />
ra moTxovnebs unda akmayofil-<br />
anu ratom axels<br />
Tvals Temida?!<br />
eka cimakuriZe<br />
`yvela zemoTqmulidan gamomdinare, Cveni<br />
kampaniis moTxovnad rCeba, rom realuri<br />
reforma ganxorcieldes (radgan Tu kanonis<br />
doneze ar iqna sasamarTlos damoukidebloba<br />
garantirebuli, erT klans meore Secvlis) da<br />
amasTan, politikurma xelisuflebam<br />
pasuxismgebloba unda aiRos im warumateblobebze,<br />
rac hqonda rogorc sakanonmdeblo procesSi, ise<br />
sabWos wevrebis daniSvnisas da mesame - klanuri<br />
mmarTveloba daiSalos!~<br />
sasamarTlo sistemam Secdome-<br />
bi? ra Zireuli reformebia<br />
saWiro? ra mizezebiT aris klanuri<br />
mmarTveloba gabatonebu-<br />
li sasamarTlo sistemaSi da vin<br />
afarebs mas xels?<br />
_ ratom, ra ideiT daiwyeT es<br />
kampania da ras isaxavs igi<br />
miznad?<br />
_ Zalian didi xania, rac sasamarTloSi<br />
arsebul problemebze<br />
vsaubrobT. bolo dros bevri<br />
mosamarTle dainiSna uvadod,<br />
procesi dResac Seuqcevadia. es<br />
yvelaferi im fonze, roca sazogadoebas<br />
sasamarTlos mimarT<br />
ndoba ar gaaCnia. mosamarTlis<br />
Tanamdebobaze uvadod iniSnebian<br />
is mosamarTleebi, romelTa<br />
mier ganxilul saqmeebzec warsulSi<br />
Zalian bevri kritika ismoda.<br />
viciT, rom xelisuflebam reformebis<br />
3 talRa ganaxorciela,<br />
Tumca am uvado daniSvnebis<br />
fonze mkafiod gamoCnda, rom<br />
reformebi ar muSaobs.<br />
aRmoCnda (da maSinac vakritikebdiT,<br />
roca mesame talRis<br />
reforma ganixileboda parlamentSi),<br />
gatarebuli reformebi<br />
ar uzrunvelyofs mosamarTleebis<br />
obieqturad SerCevas. rogorc<br />
am reformamde iniSnebodnen<br />
mosamarTleebi, igivea dResac<br />
(maSindeli problema is gaxldaT,<br />
rom mosamarTleebi subieqturad<br />
iniSnebodnen da daniSvnis<br />
gadawyvetilebebi ar efuZneboda<br />
dadgenil kriteriumebs. dResac<br />
analogiurad asea. faqtobrivad,<br />
veraviTar kritikas ver uZlebs<br />
daniSvnis es procesi), _ odiozuri<br />
figurebi iniSnebian Tanamdebobebze<br />
da is adamianebi winaurdebian<br />
sasamarTlo sistema-<br />
Si maRal Tanamdebobebze, romlebic<br />
usamarTlo marTlmsajulebasTan<br />
asocirdebian, rogorc<br />
adre xdeboda.<br />
kanoni unda gaumjobesdes, es<br />
mniSvnelovania, magram arasakmarisi!<br />
dRes aSkaraa, rom sasamarTlo<br />
sistemas marTavs adamian-<br />
Ta Zlieri jgufi, romelic, ZiriTadad,<br />
iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos<br />
wevrebisa da sasamarTloebis<br />
Tavmjdomareebisgan Sedgeba.<br />
maT gavlena aqvT yvela mniSvnelovan<br />
gadawyvetilebaze sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi. rac unda bevri<br />
kritika ismodes sazogadoebisgan,<br />
es jgufi mainc moqmedebs,<br />
maT ar aRelvebT sasamarTlo sistemaSi<br />
procesebis obieqturad<br />
warmarTva. am fonze mniSvnelovani<br />
roli aqvs moqmed xelisuflebas,<br />
romelic mudmivad ugulebelyofs<br />
sakuTar funqcias<br />
am procesebSi. misgan mudmivad<br />
vismenT, rom ver Caerevian sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi. es asea, politikuri<br />
xelisufleba ar unda<br />
ereodes sasamarTlo xelisuflebis<br />
muSaobaSi, magram misi kompetencia<br />
da valdebulebaa, swori<br />
reformebi gaataros sasamar-<br />
Tlo sistemaSi!<br />
politikuri xelisuflebis<br />
pasuxismgebloba sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi<br />
mimdinare procesebze<br />
ori mimarTulebiT ikveTeba:<br />
sakanonmdeblo reformebi<br />
erTi mniSvnelovani mimarTulebaa,<br />
romelic, vxedavT, rom maT,<br />
faqtobrivad, Caaflaves da meore<br />
_ parlaments aqvs kvota iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWoSi, is ni-<br />
Snavs 5 aramosamarTle wevrs. aqac<br />
vxedavT, rom sabWos axali Semadgenlobis<br />
damtkicebis Semdeg<br />
parlamentis mier daniSnuli aramosamarTle<br />
wevrebi (xuTi wevridan<br />
oTxi maTgani) mudmivad mxars<br />
uWers ukanono gadawyvetilebebs,<br />
romlebsac sabWoSi arsebuli<br />
mosamarTle wevrebi iReben.<br />
am aramosamarTle wevrebis<br />
gareSe iusticiis umaRlesi sab-<br />
Wo ver daniSnavs mosamarTleebs,<br />
Tavmjdomareebs, ver miiRebs mni-<br />
Svnelovan gadawyvetilebebs,<br />
romlebic sasamarTlo xelisuflebis<br />
ganxorcielebas ukavSirdeba<br />
(maT rom ar hqondeT parlamentis<br />
mier daniSnuli 4 aramosamarTle<br />
wevris mudmivi uapelacio<br />
mxardaWera). daniSnuli mosamarTleebi<br />
ki, rogorc wesi,<br />
gansaxilvel sakiTxebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT kiTxvebs ar svamen, ar<br />
gamoTqvamen kritikul azrs, arc<br />
im sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT uCndebaT<br />
kiTxvebi, razedac ase xmamaRla<br />
da aqtiurad vsaubrobT<br />
samoqalaqo sazogadoebaSi, isini,<br />
ubralod, xeliT udastureben<br />
mosamarTle wevrebs da klans<br />
maT mier misaReb Zalian cud da<br />
araswor gadawyvetilebebs!<br />
es aris 2 mimarTuleba, raSic<br />
gamoixateba politikuri xelisuflebis<br />
pirdapiri pasuxismgebloba<br />
sasamarTlo sistema-<br />
Si mimdinare movlenebze.<br />
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sasamarTlos~<br />
ebdes mosamarTle, rom Tanamdebobaze<br />
dainiSnos). mosamarTleebs<br />
formalurad afaseben, isini<br />
ramdenime etapian process gadian,<br />
iwereba qulebi, maT Soris<br />
imaze, rom mosamarTlem daakmayofila<br />
keTilsindisierebisa da<br />
kompetenturobis kriteriumebi;<br />
Semdeg etapze ki sakiTxi dgeba<br />
kenWisyraze, ra drosac azrs kargavs<br />
yovelgvari Sefaseba da<br />
faruli kenWisyriT, uvadod, yovelgvari<br />
dasabuTebis gareSe iniSnebian<br />
mosamarTleebi. am wesiT<br />
dainiSnen mosamarTleebi uvadod,<br />
romlebic klanis wevrebad<br />
miiCnevian. damkvirveblebisTvis<br />
`saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli, rom<br />
cnobili unda iyos, Tu ratom<br />
dainiSna an piriqiT, ar dainiSna<br />
araformaluri mmarTvelobis problema gvaqvs!<br />
konkretuli piri am Tanamde-<br />
evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />
bobaze. miuxedavad amisa, Cvenma<br />
Sesrulebis Sefaseba gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />
kanonmdebelma gadawyvita, daex-<br />
weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul gamowvevas<br />
ura Sefasebis qulaTa es siste-<br />
warmoadgens araformaluri mmarTveloba. es ki,<br />
ma da iseTi wesi SemoiRo, romel-<br />
ra Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo sistemazec,<br />
ic farTo SesaZleblobas uto-<br />
iusticiis sabWozec da, saerTod, yvela<br />
vebs klans, rom TviTneburad<br />
instituciaze~<br />
imoqmedos.<br />
_ ramdeni xania, rac es kla-<br />
nuri mmarTvelobaa sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi da visgan Sedgeba igi?<br />
_ yovelTvis ase iyo, Cven arasdros<br />
gvqonda damoukidebeli<br />
sasamarTlo, miT ufro, iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi sabWo, is yovelTvis<br />
problemuri gaxldaT.<br />
gvaxsovs periodi, roca saer-<br />
Tod daxuruli iyo da sxdomebic<br />
ki ar imarTeboda, Sesabamisad,<br />
zedmetia saubari, rom iq instituciurad<br />
miiReboda gadawyvetileba.<br />
ra Tqma unda, iqac<br />
konkretuli gavleniani jgufebi<br />
iRebda saboloo gadawyvetilebas.<br />
dRes gansxvaveba is aris,<br />
rom es sxdomebi Riaa da procesis<br />
naxvis SesaZlebloba gvaqvs,<br />
Tumca, Sinaarsobrivad, substanciurad,<br />
araferi Secvlila, _<br />
rogorc muSaobda klani maSin,<br />
ise muSaobs axlac.<br />
saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli,<br />
rom araformaluri mmarTvelobis<br />
problema gvaqvs!<br />
evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />
Sesrulebis Sefaseba<br />
gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />
weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul<br />
gamowvevas warmoadgens araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba. es ki, ra<br />
Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo<br />
sistemazec, iusticiis sabWozec<br />
da, saerTod, yvela instituciaze.<br />
_ e. i. maT politikuri mx-<br />
ardaWera aqvT?<br />
_ politikuri, xelisuflebis<br />
mxardaWeris gareSe iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWoSi aseTi procesebi<br />
da aseTi krizisi ar gveqneboda<br />
(ar vsaubrobT calkeul<br />
problemebze). sasamarTlo sistemaSi<br />
krizisia, igi ver moxdeboda<br />
cudi kanonmdeblobisa da<br />
politikuri nebis gareSe, roca<br />
maT swored is adamianebi daniSnes<br />
iusticiis sabWoSi, romlebic<br />
morCilad xels auweven klanis<br />
wevrebisTvis sasurvel gadawyvetilebas!<br />
_ romelia aRniSnuli klanis<br />
wevrebis<br />
sazogadoebisTvis<br />
cnobili da gaxmaurebuli<br />
saqme?<br />
_ klanis wevrebad moixseniebian<br />
is adamianebi, romlebic yvelaze<br />
xSirad saxeldebian, garedan<br />
Canan, Torem amas kidev ufro<br />
didi lustracia, gamokvleva<br />
sWirdeba. vinmes usamarTlobis<br />
gancda rom ar darCes an klanis<br />
wevroba ar mieweros, es sakiTxi<br />
aucileblad unda SeviswavloT.<br />
dRes es procesi (mag.: mosamarTle<br />
SavaZis gancxadebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT mamiseiSvilis, ba-<br />
Tumis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />
TavmjdomaresTan dakavSirebiT)<br />
dawyebulia, rac safuZveli unda<br />
gaxdes, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />
siRrmiseulad SeviswavloT<br />
da yvela is piri gamoikveTos,<br />
romelic xels uSlis mosamarTleebis<br />
damoukidebel muSaobas.<br />
_ konkretulad, ra roli da<br />
gavlena hqonda TiToeul maT-<br />
gans am procesSi?<br />
_ Cven yvelaze xSirad visac<br />
vasaxelebT, aris mixeil CinCalaZe,<br />
romelic saapelacio sasamarTlos<br />
Tavmjdomarea, manamde<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris<br />
moadgile iyo mravali weli.<br />
rac Seexeba mis mier warmoebul<br />
saqmeebs, wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
mas saqme, faqtobrivad, ar<br />
ganuxilavs. esec sasamarTlo<br />
`girgvlianis saqmis mosamarTle levan<br />
murusiZesTan dakavSirebiT bolo wlebSi<br />
ganviTarebulma movlenebma cxadyo, rom isic<br />
erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani figuraa<br />
sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi. rogorc wina, ise<br />
am Semadgenlobis sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />
yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT klanis wevrebad~<br />
sistemis klanis problemaa, rom<br />
mis wevrebs, rogorc wesi, ar<br />
ewerebaT saqmeebi, TiTqosda,<br />
sxva administraciuli funqciebiT<br />
arian dakavebulebi, amitom<br />
saqmeebs ar ganixilaven xolme.<br />
Sesabamisad, mis saxelTan konkretuli,<br />
romelime saqme SeiZleba<br />
ar asocirdebodes, magram<br />
problema is aris, rom mosamarTlis<br />
fuqcias is ar asrulebs.<br />
arada, erT-erTi yvelaze gavleniani<br />
figura is gaxlavT. amboben,<br />
rom yvela mniSvnelovani sakiTxi<br />
(magaliTad, vin unda dainiSnos<br />
mosamarTled) winaswar swored<br />
masTan Tanxmdeba.<br />
girgvlianis saqmis mosamar-<br />
Tle levan murusiZesTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT bolo wlebSi ganviTarebulma<br />
movlenebma cxadyo, rom<br />
isic erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani<br />
figuraa sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi.<br />
rogorc wina, ise am Semadgenlobis<br />
sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />
yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT<br />
klanis wevrebad.<br />
_ romeli ZiriTadi orga-<br />
nizaciebi xarT gaerTianebuli<br />
am axal kampaniaSi „saiasa” da<br />
„saerTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba<br />
saqarTvelos” garda?<br />
_ kampanias awarmoebs koalicia<br />
„damoukidebeli da gamWvirvale<br />
marTlmsajulebisTvis”,<br />
romelic bevr sxva organizaciasTan<br />
erTad aerTianebs: EMC _<br />
„adamianis uflebaTa swavlebisa<br />
da monitoringis centrs”, „Ria<br />
sazogadoeba saqarTvelos”, IDFIs,<br />
„konstituciis 42-e muxls”,<br />
adamianis uflebaTa centrs,<br />
„saqarTvelos demokratiul iniciativas”,<br />
aseve, arian profesiuli<br />
gaerTianebebi, rogoric<br />
aris „sifa”, amerikis savaWro<br />
palata da sxv.<br />
_ 2 wlis winaT Tqven gqondaT<br />
kampania „samarTali iTxovs”.<br />
ra iyo maSindeli kampani-<br />
is mizani da ra cvlilebebia<br />
wlevandel kampaniaSi?<br />
_ maSinac Zveli kampaniis moTxovnebi<br />
iyo is, rom realuri reforma<br />
gatarebuliyo, mosamar-<br />
Tleebis daniSvna maSinac aqtualuri<br />
iyo, vinaidan, mogexsenebaT,<br />
2015-2016 wlebSi mosamarTleebis<br />
masobrivad daniSvnis<br />
procesebi mimdinareobda.<br />
dRes Cvens kampanias daemata<br />
is, rom klani unda daiSalos!<br />
imdenad aSkaraa es klanuri mmarTveloba,<br />
imdenad azri ar aqvs<br />
sxva formaluri da akademiuri<br />
meTodebiT brZolas, rom Cven<br />
davinaxeT am yvelafris ufro<br />
xmamaRla, sxva formatSi Tqmis<br />
saWiroeba, vidre aris muSaoba<br />
levan murusiZe<br />
jgufebSi, parlamentTan, iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWosTan da a. S.<br />
yvela zemoTqmulidan gamomdinare,<br />
Cveni kampaniis moTxovnad<br />
rCeba, rom realuri reforma<br />
ganxorcieldes (radgan Tu<br />
kanonis doneze ar iqna sasamarTlos<br />
damoukidebloba garantirebuli,<br />
erT klans meore Secvlis)<br />
da amasTan, politikurma<br />
xelisuflebam pasuxismgebloba<br />
unda aiRos im warumateblobebze,<br />
rac hqonda rogorc sakanonmdeblo<br />
procesSi, ise sab-<br />
Wos wevrebis daniSvnisas da mesame<br />
_ klanuri mmarTveloba daiSalos!<br />
_ gasul kviras korufciis<br />
indeqsi gamoqveynda, romelSic<br />
Cans, rom saqarTvelos mdgo-<br />
mareoba erTi safexuriT gauaresda.<br />
sasamarTlo sistemaSi ram-<br />
denad SeiniSneba korufcia?<br />
_ is, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />
ase aSkaraa, is, rom adamianebi<br />
subieqturad iReben Zalian mniSvnelovan<br />
gadawyvetilebebs, es<br />
aris korufciis erT-erTi forma.<br />
sul ufro mets saubroben<br />
korufciaze (klasikuri gagebiT)<br />
biznesseqtorSi. Cven axla am mimarTulebiT<br />
ar vmuSaobT, Tumca<br />
TviTon is aqtorebi, romelTac<br />
yvelaze xSiri Sexeba aqvT sasamarTlosTan,<br />
amboben, rom qrTamis<br />
aRebis SemTxvevebic yofila.<br />
_ dabolos, rom SevajamoT<br />
mTavari problema da misi<br />
Tqvene<br />
neuli gadaWris gzebi, ra<br />
Roni<br />
nisZiebebs mimarTavT?<br />
_ bevri sakiTxi gamovkveTeT,<br />
mTavari sakiTxebi, rasac reforma<br />
unda Seexos, aris mosamarTleTa<br />
daniSvna, iusticiis umaRlesi<br />
skolis damoukideblobis uzrunvelyofa<br />
(is dRes mTlianad<br />
damokidebulia iusticiis uma-<br />
Rles sabWoze), disciplinuri<br />
pasuxismgebloba, sasamarTloeb-<br />
Si Tavmjdomareebis daniSvna.<br />
CamoTvlili sakiTxebi aqamdec<br />
yofila reformis sagani, Tumca<br />
vxedavT, rom reformam araviTari<br />
Sedegi ar gamoiRo, vinaidan<br />
is ar aris srulyofili an<br />
mxolod fasaduria. realuri Zvrebia<br />
saWiro!<br />
am kampaniis farglebSi davgegmavT<br />
Sexvedrebs konkretul<br />
uwyebebTan da maRali Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebTan, romlebic pasuxismgeblebi<br />
arian procesebze,<br />
gveqneba angariSebis prezentaciebi,<br />
aseve SevimuSaveT konkretuli<br />
kanonproeqtebi da klanis<br />
daSlasTan dakavSirebuli moTxovnebi.<br />
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dafinanseba erTxmad daamtkices<br />
koreis ganviTarebis bankma<br />
(KDB), evropis rekonstruqciisa<br />
da ganviTarebis bankma<br />
(EBRD) da evropis sainvesticio<br />
bankma (EIB).<br />
EIB – 150 milioni aSS dolari,<br />
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nenskrahesis<br />
ramde odenobis sesxi, aseve ss<br />
„nenskrahidros” saaqcio kapitalSi<br />
15 milioni aSS dolaris<br />
odenobis investiciaa.<br />
aziis infrastruqturis sainvesticio<br />
bankisgan (AIIB) da<br />
aziis sainvesticio bankisgan<br />
dadebiT (ADB) pasuxs uaxloes<br />
momavalSi velodebiT.<br />
nenskrahesis mSenebloba 2018<br />
wels unda daiwyos. amJamad mimdinareobs<br />
mosamzadebeli samuSaoebi<br />
nenskras xeobaSi, aseve<br />
samuSaoebi „Temis ganviTarebis<br />
programis” farglebSi, romelic<br />
sagangebod Seiqmna nenskrasa<br />
da nakras xeobebis mdgradi<br />
ganviTarebisTvis adgilobriv<br />
mcire da saSualo sawarmoebSi<br />
investirebis, aseve Temis wevr-<br />
Ta unarebis ganviTarebisa da<br />
sxva saSualebebiT.<br />
garda eleqtroenergiis importis<br />
Semcirebisa da qveynis<br />
energodamoukideblobis ga-<br />
Zlierebisa:<br />
1) Seiqmneba axali samuSao<br />
adgilebi _ proeqtis mSeneblobis<br />
periodSi 1000-ze meti muSaxeli<br />
dasaqmdeba, umeteswilad,<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi;<br />
2) regionis ganviTareba _<br />
qonebisa da miwis gadasaxadi<br />
adgilobriv biujetSi midis<br />
(mestiis municipaliteti). mag.:<br />
ukve 2017 wels kompaniam adgilobriv<br />
biujetSi 2 milion larze<br />
meti Seitana gadasaxadebis<br />
saxiT;<br />
3) „Temis ganviTarebis programa”<br />
_ nenskrahesis proeqtis<br />
Tanxmlebi sainvesticio proeqti,<br />
romelic miznad isaxavs adgilobrivi<br />
mcire da saSualo<br />
biznesis ganviTarebis xelSewyobas,<br />
saganmanaTleblo programebis<br />
ganviTarebas, mcire infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtebis<br />
ganxorcielebasa da sxv.<br />
SesaZlebelia, rom zafxulis<br />
periodSi gamomuSavebuli elenergia<br />
saeqsportod gavides,<br />
Tumca es saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
gadasawyveti sakiTxia.<br />
revaz arvelaZe _ saqarTve-<br />
los energetikis akademiis<br />
prezidenti:<br />
_ cxadia, nenskrahesiT sruliad<br />
saqarTvelos elenergiiT<br />
uzrunvelyofa ise ver moxdeba,<br />
rom misi importi<br />
saerTod ar<br />
dagvWirdes,<br />
Tumca roca<br />
molodinia,<br />
rom wlis man-<br />
Zilze importiT<br />
unda<br />
Semovitano-<br />
T, daaxloebiT,<br />
2<br />
mlrd gigavat/sT<br />
elenergia,<br />
`zogadad, energetikaSi investiciebis 2 formula arsebobs. pirveli:<br />
mSenebloba, operireba da sakuTreba (e. i. viRac aSenebs, operirebas uwevs<br />
da masve ekuTvnis) da meore: mSenebloba, operireba da gadacema (anu<br />
aSenebs, operirebas uwevs garkveuli drois ganmavlobaSi da<br />
molaparakebis Tanaxmad, konkretuli Tanxis gadaxdis Semdeg, sxva<br />
saxelmwifos sakuTereba gaxdeba, radgan romelma qveyanamac aaSena, man<br />
ukan daibruna is investicia da garkveuli mogebac naxa). rogorc wesi,<br />
CvenTan pirveli formuliT Sendeba hesebi, rac, Cemi azriT, kargi ar<br />
aris. magaliTad, TurqeTma mTeli Tavisi energetika am sistemiT moawyo,<br />
Tumca iq investorebisTvis sadgurebis sakuTrebis dro 10-15 weli iyo.<br />
Cvens SemTxvevaSi es 36 weli Zalian mebevreba, amdeni wlis Semdeg nenskras<br />
energosadguri TviTonac saremonto iqneba~<br />
xolo nenskrahesi 1, 200 mln gigavat/sT-iT<br />
moamaragebs qveyanas,<br />
maSin, TavisTavad cxadia,<br />
rom igi imports sagrZnoblad<br />
Seamcirebs da energetikul damoukideblobas,<br />
energetikul<br />
usafrTxoebas seriozulad<br />
Seuwyobs xels.<br />
aq sxva problema SeiZleba<br />
iyos: nenskrahesi Zalian Zviri<br />
givi adeiSvili<br />
hesia, misi sainvesticio Rirebuleba<br />
miliardi dolaria,<br />
rac, daaxloebiT, $3700-s Seadgens<br />
1 kvt.ze _ aseTi Zviri energosadguri<br />
saqarTvelos teritoriaze<br />
ar aSenebula, aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, dazustebiT<br />
ver vityvi, Tu ramdenad efeqtiani<br />
iqneba igi ekonomikurad<br />
da ra gavlenas moaxdens samomxmareblo<br />
tarifze. garda amisa,<br />
mniSvnelovania is, Tu ramden<br />
weliwadze iqneba gawerili investiciebis<br />
dabruneba. marTalia,<br />
memorandumSi Cawerilia,<br />
rom igi 36 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
iqneba koreelebis sakuTreba<br />
da Semdeg gadmoscemen saqarTvelos.<br />
Tu asea, cxadia, rom, TavisTavad,<br />
is did gavlenas ver<br />
moaxdens ekonomikaze, magram<br />
Tu 10 weliwadze an naklebzea<br />
gawerili es vadebi, am hesis gavlena<br />
samomxmareblo tarifze<br />
sakmaod dadebiTad aisaxeba.<br />
roca Cven (daaxloebiT) 3<br />
wlis winaT ganxilva gvqonda<br />
garemos dacvis saministroSi,<br />
maSin sakiTxebi dadga, rom am<br />
hesis mSeneblobis pirobebSi sakmaod<br />
didi raodenobis tyis<br />
iSviaTi jiSebi unda gaCexiliyo<br />
da es seriozul gavlenas moaxdenda<br />
garemoze. me amis specialisti<br />
ar var da ver daviwyeb<br />
imis mtkicebas, rom namdvilad<br />
asea, an piriqiT, magram vici,<br />
rom es sakiTxi daisva.<br />
zogadad, energetikaSi investiciebis<br />
2 formula arsebobs.<br />
pirveli: mSenebloba, operireba<br />
da sakuTreba (e. i. viRac aSenebs,<br />
operirebas uwevs da masve<br />
ekuTvnis) da meore: mSeneblo-<br />
`Cven vxedavT msoflioSi arsebul tendencias,<br />
roca drodadro ganviTarebuli qveynebi ufro<br />
meti ganaxlebadi energiis gamomuSavebaze<br />
gadadian, rac, ra Tqma unda, amcirebs<br />
globaluri daTbobisgan miRebul uaryofiT<br />
efeqtebs. amitom, zogadad, qveynis strategiul<br />
interesebSi unda iyos hesebisa da mcire hesebis<br />
mniSvneloba. swored amisTvisaa saWiro, rom<br />
saxelmwifom oqros Sualedi daiWiros<br />
tarifis generirebisas, vinaidan Tu<br />
investorebisTvis igi mimzidveli ar iqneba, ar<br />
moxdeba hesebis mSenebloba, es ki srulad<br />
gagvxdis importze damokidebuls, rac, saboloo<br />
jamSi, mainc tarifis zrdas gamoiwvevs~<br />
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mSenebloba iwyeba!<br />
ba, operireba da gadacema (anu<br />
aSenebs, operirebas uwevs garkveuli<br />
drois ganmavlobaSi da<br />
molaparakebis Tanaxmad, konkretuli<br />
Tanxis gadaxdis Semdeg,<br />
sxva saxelmwifos sakuTereba<br />
gaxdeba, radgan romelma qveyanamac<br />
aaSena, man ukan daibruna<br />
is investicia da garkveuli mogebac<br />
naxa). rogorc wesi, Cven-<br />
Tan pirveli formuliT Sendeba<br />
hesebi, rac, Cemi azriT, kargi<br />
ar aris. magaliTad, TurqeTma<br />
mTeli Tavisi energetika am<br />
sistemiT moawyo, Tumca iq investorebisTvis<br />
sadgurebis sakuTrebis<br />
dro 10-15 weli iyo.<br />
Cvens SemTxvevaSi es 36 weli Zalian<br />
mebevreba, amdeni wlis Semdeg<br />
nenskras energosadguri<br />
TviTonac saremonto iqneba.<br />
qarTveli xalxi am yvelafridan<br />
im sargebels miiRebs, rom<br />
ruseTidan da azerbaijanidan<br />
aRar iyidis elenergias, saku-<br />
Tari eqneba, Tumca SeTanxmebuli<br />
tarifiT, rac ufro naklebi<br />
unda iyos (Cemi azriT), vidre<br />
importT nayidi energia (vnaxoT,<br />
ra iqneba molaparakeba<br />
saqarTvelosa da investors Soris,<br />
tarifebis nawilSi molaparakeba<br />
ar dasrulebula).<br />
rac Seexeba ekologiur zians,<br />
im formulas getyviT, ri-<br />
Tac energetikosebi vsargeblobT:<br />
1. mSenebloba teqnikurad<br />
SesaZlebeli unda iyos;<br />
2. malimitirebeli (ekonomikurad<br />
aucileblad efeqtiani<br />
unda iyos);<br />
3. (da Zalian mniSvnelovani)<br />
ekologiurad misaRebi;<br />
anu garemos sargebelze ufro<br />
met zians ar unda ayenebdes.<br />
es unda awon-dawono da Tu efeqti<br />
bevrad gadaaWarbebs mis<br />
mier miyenebul zians, ra Tqma<br />
unda, am SemTxvevaSi, igi SeiZleba<br />
aSendes. Tu es ziani imdenad<br />
didia, rom mis ekonomikur<br />
efeqtianobas ver awonis, ra<br />
Tqma unda, aseTi obieqti ar<br />
unda aSendes! aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
pirvel punqtze danamdvilebiT<br />
geubnebiT, rom iq Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia hesis aSeneba, meoreze<br />
_ ekonomikurad es efeqtiani<br />
ver iqneba da mesameze, garemosdamcvelebma<br />
unda Tqvan, aWarbebs<br />
Tu ara ziani im efeqts,<br />
rac SeiZleba man moitanos?<br />
asociacia „mwvane alternativam”<br />
nenskrahesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
evropis veluri bunebisa<br />
da bunebrivi habitatebis dacvis<br />
konvenciaSi bernSi sarCeli<br />
Seitana.<br />
„qronika+”-s esaubra asoci-<br />
aciis Tavmjdomare _ manana<br />
qoClaZe:<br />
_ nenskrahesi sakmaod rTuli<br />
proeqtia da igi or xeobas<br />
moicavs. erTi: wyali<br />
nenskras xeobidan gvi-<br />
manana qoClaZe<br />
N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
rabiT iqneba gadasrolili nakras<br />
xeobaSi da iq didi rezervuari<br />
Sendeba. es, TavisTavad,<br />
absoluturad xeluxlebeli<br />
teritoriaa, romelic 2016 wlamde<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
mier zurmuxtovani gzebis teritoriebis<br />
nawilad aRiares da<br />
mxolod mas Semdeg amoiRes am<br />
siidan, rac gadawyvites, rom aq<br />
hesi aSendeboda. es midamoebi<br />
sakmaod maRali biomravalferovnebiT<br />
gamoirCeva, garda amisa,<br />
orive, _ nakras da nenskras<br />
xeobebi, _ Zalian viwroa, aq mosaxleoba,<br />
ZiriTadad, mdinaris<br />
napirebis gaswvriv cxovrobs,<br />
Sesabamisad, nebismieri didi<br />
mSenebloba am xeobaSi sakmao<br />
zegavlenas iqonebs mosaxleobaze,<br />
rogorc maT tradiciul<br />
cxovrebaze (saubaria imaze,<br />
rom is saZovrebi, romelsac<br />
svanebi zafxulSi iyeneben an<br />
rezervuaris qveS moeqceva, an<br />
xelmiuwvdomeli iqneba sam-<br />
Seneblo procesebis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
garda amisa, sakmaod didi<br />
iqneba zemoqmedeba mSeneblobis<br />
mxriv rogorc transportis<br />
TvalsazrisiT, xmaurisa da wvis<br />
Sedegad), ise, zogadad.<br />
rom warmoidginoT, es aris 2<br />
Zalian mcire zomis sofeli,<br />
orive xeobaSi mosaxleobis raodenoba<br />
1500-s ar aRemateba, es<br />
sadguris mSenebloba ki, daaxloebiT,<br />
1000-mde samuSao adgils<br />
saWiroebs, Sesabamisad, amdeni<br />
adamianis am xeobaSi „CasaxlebiT”<br />
da iq yofniT socialuri<br />
zemoqmedeba didi iqneba.<br />
garda amisa, Zalian bevri kvleva<br />
ise ar aris gakeTebuli, rogorc<br />
saWiroa, maT Soris, biomravalferovnebis.<br />
swored am<br />
mizezebis, nenskras biomravalferovnebis<br />
dacvis gamo, Cven<br />
bernis konvenciaSi sarCeli<br />
SevitaneT.<br />
ekonomikuri gaTvlebiTac<br />
aRmoCnda, rom es hesi ar aris<br />
maincdamainc iseTi momgebiani,<br />
rogorsac mTavroba eloda.<br />
marTalia, kompania ambobda,<br />
rom mas srulad aqvs Seswavlili<br />
geologiuri riskebi, magram<br />
gamomdinare iqidan, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
TiTqmis yvela hidroeleqtrosadguris<br />
mSenebloba,<br />
jer kidev (rac bolo 10<br />
wlis manZilze ganxorcielda),<br />
saboloo jamSi, dakavSirebuli<br />
iyo ganuxorcielebel an kargad<br />
verCatarebul geologiur<br />
kvlevebTan, Sedegad miviReT<br />
darialhesisa da larsihesis<br />
problemebi. problemebia SuaxevhesSic,<br />
romelsac am wuTebSic<br />
gvirabebi Camongreuli aqvs.<br />
migvaCnia, rom aseT mowyvlad<br />
adgilebSi ar SeiZleba mSenebloba,<br />
radgan ramdenadac kargad<br />
unda iyos Catarebuli geologiuri<br />
kvlevebi, faqtia, rom<br />
am adgilebSi Zalian bevri Rvarcofuli<br />
mdinarea, romelmac<br />
SeiZleba garkveuli tipis zemoqmedeba<br />
gamoiwvios mosaxleobaze.<br />
md. nakra Rvarcofuli<br />
mdinareebis mier Camotanil natans<br />
recxavs. Tu masSi Sesabamisi<br />
odenobis wyali ar iqneba,<br />
aman SeiZleba safrTxe Seuqmnas<br />
sofels, romelic am „gadasrolis”<br />
wertils qvemoT aris gafenili.<br />
marTalia, kompania ambobs,<br />
rom am SemTxvevaSi is intensiur<br />
monitorings Caatarebs<br />
da Tu saWiroa, nenskraSi wyals<br />
ar gadaisvris, magram mainc<br />
rCeba iseTi faqtorebi, rogoricaa,<br />
vTqvaT, monitoringis<br />
mier vergaTvla, misi arCatareba,<br />
radgan Rvarcoful mdinareebs<br />
Zalian swrafi da myisieri<br />
movardna axasiaTebT, Sesabamisad,<br />
Zalian bevri aseTi riskia<br />
da is ar eTanadeba im sargebels,<br />
romelsac saqarTvelo<br />
miiRebs xelSekrulebis ganxorcielebiT.<br />
Cveni TvalTaxedviT,<br />
proeqti ar aris sasargeblo.<br />
hesebsa da ganaxlebadi en-<br />
ergiebis sargeblobasa da<br />
aucileblobaze „qronika+“ esaubreba<br />
organizacia „sazoga-<br />
doeba da bankebis” analitikos<br />
givi adeiSvils:<br />
_ CvenisTana mcire zomis<br />
qveynisTvis gansakuTrebuli<br />
mniSvnelobis aris energomatareblebi.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, ganaxlebadi<br />
energia prioritetulia,<br />
rom mezobel qveynebze ar<br />
viyoT damokidebuli, romelTac<br />
SeiZleba garkveul periodSi<br />
aRniSnuli statusi Tavis<br />
sakeTildReod gamoiyenon.<br />
garkveulwilad, gvqonda kidevac<br />
iseTi SemTxvevebi warsulidan,<br />
roca aRniSnuli energoresursebi<br />
SeizRuda, Tan unda<br />
gaviTvaliswinoT, rom Cven ar<br />
varT navTobmompovebeli qveyana<br />
da eleqtroenergias CvenTvis<br />
sasicocxlo mniSvneloba aqvs.<br />
amitom, vfiqrob, rom mniSvnelovania,<br />
qveyanam ganaviTaros<br />
ganaxlebadi energia, rogoric<br />
aris hidroresursebi, qaris energia,<br />
mzis energia da vfiqrob,<br />
rom am mimarTulebiT saxelmwifom<br />
xeli unda Seuwyos!<br />
Cven vxedavT msoflioSi arsebul<br />
tendencias, roca drodadro<br />
ganviTarebuli qveynebi<br />
ufro meti ganaxlebadi energiis<br />
gamomuSavebaze gadadian,<br />
rac, ra Tqma unda, amcirebs<br />
globaluri daTbobisgan miRebul<br />
uaryofiT efeqtebs. amitom,<br />
zogadad, qveynis strategiul<br />
interesebSi unda iyos hesebisa<br />
da mcire hesebis mniSvneloba.<br />
swored amisTvisaa saWiro,<br />
rom saxelmwifom oqros<br />
Sualedi daiWiros tarifis generirebisas,<br />
vinaidan Tu investorebisTvis<br />
igi mimzidveli ar<br />
iqneba, ar moxdeba hesebis mSenebloba,<br />
es ki srulad gagvxdis<br />
importze damokidebuls, rac,<br />
saboloo jamSi, mainc tarifis<br />
zrdas gamoiwvevs.<br />
rac Seexeba Cveni elenergiis<br />
eqsportze gatanis SesaZleblobas,<br />
arcTu ise Soreuli<br />
warsulidan gvaxsovs, rom Cveni<br />
wliuri generacia wliur mo-<br />
Txovnas akmayofilebda da garkveul<br />
wlebSi gadaaWarba kidec<br />
mas. es niSnavs, rom gazafxuli-zafxulis<br />
periodSi SedarebiT<br />
met energias gamovimu-<br />
SavebT, vidre movixmarT, xolo<br />
zamTris periodSi (vinaidan wylis<br />
done iklebs), importis saxiT<br />
meti energoresursebi Semodis,<br />
vidre gamovimuSavebT,<br />
bunebrivi airis importi xorcieldeba<br />
da aRniSnuli gamomuSavebis<br />
deficits Tbosadgurebis<br />
meSveobiT vabalansebT.<br />
imis potencia gvaqvs, rom momavalSi<br />
Cvens moxmarebas mivdioT.<br />
moxmareba mkveTrad izrdeba<br />
bolo wlebSi da Cvens warmoebas<br />
gadaaWarba. am kuTxiTac<br />
unda mivaqcioT yuradReba, vinaidan<br />
ekonomikuri zrda met<br />
energias moiTxovs.<br />
saboloo jamSi, miuxedavad<br />
garemoze mosalodneli zianisa<br />
da mosaxleobis aqtiuri winaa-<br />
Rmdegobisa, nenskra hesis mSenebloba<br />
mimdinare wels daiwyeba,<br />
eleqtroenergiis gamomuSavebas<br />
hesi 2020 wlidan daiwyebs,<br />
xolo mSenebloba 2021 wels dasruldeba.<br />
misi jamuri Rirebuleba<br />
1 mlrd aSS dolars<br />
Seadgens.<br />
ramdenad miiRebs ekonomikur<br />
sargebels qveyana, ras mogvcems<br />
is, rom mxolod 36 wlis<br />
Semdeg gadmova igi Cveni qveynis<br />
sakuTrebaSi da ramdenad<br />
imoqmedebs igi qveynisTvis dabali<br />
tarifebisa da elenergiis<br />
importis SemcirebaSi, amas<br />
ramdenime weliwadSi sakuTar<br />
Tavze gamovcdiT da Sedegsac<br />
vixilavT.<br />
`ekonomikuri gaTvlebiTac aRmoCnda, rom es hesi ar aris maincdamainc<br />
iseTi momgebiani, rogorsac mTavroba eloda. marTalia, kompania<br />
ambobda, rom mas srulad aqvs Seswavlili geologiuri riskebi, magram<br />
gamomdinare iqidan, rom saqarTveloSi TiTqmis yvela<br />
hidroeleqtrosadguris mSenebloba, jer kidev (rac bolo 10 wlis<br />
manZilze ganxorcielda), saboloo jamSi, dakavSirebuli iyo<br />
ganuxorcielebel an kargad verCatarebul geologiur kvlevebTan,<br />
Sedegad miviReT darialhesisa da larsihesis problemebi. problemebia<br />
SuaxevhesSic, romelsac am wuTebSic gvirabebi Camongreuli aqvs~<br />
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am saqmeze „qronika+”-is<br />
pirveli respondentia samo-<br />
qalaqo saqmis advokati _<br />
lali goCelaSvili:<br />
_ qalbatono lali, Tqveni<br />
uflebadacviTi gamocdilebidan<br />
gamomdinare, ra damokidebuleba<br />
gaqvT bakuraZe-goSx-<br />
eTelianis davis (samoqalaqo,<br />
sisxlis samarTali) mimarT?<br />
_ vinaidan m. goSxeTelianma<br />
gaaxmaura piradi da ojaxuri<br />
cxovrebis faqtebi da sayovel-<br />
Tao ganxilvis sagnad aqcia, Cemi<br />
marwmuneblis gr. bakuraZis<br />
TanxmobiT, SemiZlia gipasuxoT<br />
SekiTxvebze. mgonia, es dava wamowyebulia<br />
im mizniT, rom „gax-<br />
giorgi mefariZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
„qronika+~ ukve werda, rom quTaisSi, sasjelaRsrulebis<br />
meore dawesebulebis win, yofil meuRleze ZaladobaSi<br />
braldebuli grigol bakuraZis axloblebma aqcia gamarTes.<br />
maTi TqmiT, bakuraZe unda ganTavisufldes, radgan is provokaciis<br />
msxverplia. cixesTan imyofeboda bakuraZis advokati<br />
ledi tukvaZe. misi TqmiT, patimari dawesebulebaSi SimSi-<br />
lobs da TviTmkvlelobac scada.<br />
ledi tukvaZem grigol bakuraZe<br />
sapatimro dawesebulebaSi<br />
moinaxula. advokatma ganacxada,<br />
rom iusticiis ministrma<br />
Tea wulukianma daarRvia udanaSaulobis<br />
prezumpcia, roca<br />
bakuraZe moZaladed gamoacxada<br />
maSin roca, jer ar arsebobda<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />
da pirdapir miuTiTa saolqo<br />
sasamarTlos mosamarTleebs,<br />
rom girao, rasac Zalian xSirad<br />
iyeneben msgavsi tipis davebze,<br />
patimrobiT Secvliliyo.<br />
yofili meuRlis cemaSi<br />
braldebulis mosanaxuleblad<br />
dawesebulebaSi fsiqologic<br />
Sevida.<br />
gavrcelebuli informaciiT,<br />
grigol bakuraZem 3 ianvars<br />
yofil colsa da simamrs fizikuri<br />
Seuracxyofa miayena. 5<br />
ianvars saqalaqo sasamarTlom<br />
bakuraZe giraoTi gaaTavisufla.<br />
amis Semdeg ki quTaisis saapelacio<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT,<br />
bakuraZe sasamarTlo<br />
darbazSive daakaves.<br />
advokati:<br />
`grigol bakuraZe<br />
ukve moZaladed<br />
Seracxes da<br />
vSiSob, sanimuSod<br />
ar dasajon~<br />
`ar SeiZleba, winaswar<br />
gamovacxadoT viRac damnaSaved<br />
da viRac _ msxverplad, es<br />
azaralebs marTlmsajulebas~<br />
maurebuli saqmis” grifiT gaSuqebuliyo<br />
da didi aJiotaJi<br />
mohyoloda.<br />
Cems am mosazrebas mimyarebs<br />
gasul wels mxareebs Soris<br />
morigebiT dasrulebuli samoqalaqo<br />
saqme, sadac mosarCele<br />
iyo m. goSxeTeliani da mopasuxisgan,<br />
g. bakuraZisgan maTi mcirewlovani<br />
Svilis naxvis uflebis<br />
aRdgenas iTxovda.<br />
rogorc wesi, qarTul sinamdvileSi,<br />
aseTi kategoriis davebSi<br />
mamebi arian mosarCeleebi.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi ki deda iTxovda<br />
ramdenime dRes SvilTan urTierTobisTvis.<br />
roca saqmis garemoebebs gavecani,<br />
gamoirkva, rom mxareebs<br />
Soris sadavo araferi iyo. g.<br />
bakuraZe xels ar uSlida dedas<br />
SvilTan urTierTobaSi, piriqiT,<br />
pirad mimoweraSi grigoli<br />
yofil meuRles sTxovda, SvilTan<br />
ufro xSiri urTierToba<br />
hqonoda, radgan bavSvi udedobas<br />
ganicdida.<br />
rogorc mosalodneli iyo,<br />
pirvelsave sasamarTlo sxdomaze<br />
mxareebi morigdnen da dedas,<br />
misive moTxovniT, bavSvTan<br />
urTierTobisTvis ganesazRvra<br />
vada _ yoveli orSabaTis 10:00<br />
sT-dan, oTxSabaTis 10:00 sTmde.<br />
goSxeTeliani-bakuraZis saqme<br />
Cems praqtikaSi namdvilad<br />
gansxvavebulia am TvalsazrisiT,<br />
magram, samwuxarod, saqme<br />
aq ar dasrulebula.<br />
mxareTa morigebidan daaxlobiT<br />
erT TveSi damikavSirda<br />
gr. bakuraZe da samarTlebrivi<br />
daxmareba mTxova am morigebis<br />
aRsasruleblad, radgan dedam<br />
Svils ar moakiTxa SeTanxmebul<br />
dros da bavSvi amas ganicdida,<br />
deda enatreboda. me avuxseni,<br />
ra samarTlebrivi meqanizmi<br />
arsebobs aseT SemTxvevaSi,<br />
magram, rogorc Cans, saWiro<br />
aRar gaxda, radgan saaxalwlod<br />
dedam Svili waiyvana.<br />
me wakiTxuli maqvs goSxeTeliani-bakuraZis<br />
satelefono<br />
mimowera da namdvilad mqonda<br />
imis molodini, rac Semdeg moxda.<br />
me vafrTxilebdi gigas<br />
(grigols), sifrTxile gamoeCina<br />
da raime provokaciis msxverpli<br />
ar gamxdariyo. wakiTxuli<br />
maqvs is mimowerac, ris gamoc<br />
mivida gr. bakuraZe goSxeTelianebis<br />
ojaxSi, rom yofili meuRlis<br />
mSoblebi Caeyenebina<br />
saqmis kursSi, Tu rogor iqceoda<br />
maTi qaliSvili.<br />
Cemi damokidebuleba am saqmis<br />
mimarT da, zogadadac, ase-<br />
Tia:<br />
yvela dava sasamarTlom unda<br />
ganixilos da gadawyvitos,<br />
mxolod kanonis safuZvelze.<br />
televiziiT anda presiT davebis<br />
ganxilva, vin marTalia da<br />
vin _ mtyuani, jer marTlmsajulebas,<br />
Semdeg sazogadoebas<br />
azaralebs. am saqmezec da araerTze<br />
sasamarTlom aRkveTis<br />
RonisZieba Secvala mas Semdeg,<br />
rac es saqme, ase vTqvaT, „gatelevizorda”.<br />
yvelas Tavisi interesi aqvs<br />
_ arasamTavroboebsac, politikosebsac.<br />
mosamarTles ki didi<br />
gambedaoba hmarTebs, rom arapopularuli,<br />
magram kanonieri<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRos. zogadad,<br />
ojaxSi Zaladobis uamravi<br />
saqmea praqtikaSi, marTlac<br />
Zaladobis da aseTi saqmeebi ar<br />
xmaurdeba.<br />
_ am saqmeSi gamosavals sad<br />
xedavT?<br />
_ gamosavali is iqneba, Tu am<br />
saqmeze gadaWarbebuli xmauri<br />
Sewydeba arasamTavrobo organizaciebis,<br />
zogierTi politikosis<br />
mxridan da sasamarTlos<br />
mivandobT davis sworad da samarTlianad<br />
gadawyvetas.<br />
26<br />
26 N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.
me, rogorc advokati da am<br />
qveynis moqalaqe, principulad<br />
vewinaaRmdgebi davis dasrulebamde<br />
sasamarTlos ganxilvis<br />
procesSi arsebul saqmeebze,<br />
presisa da televiziis meSveobiT<br />
winaswari azri Seiqmnas. ar<br />
SeiZleba, winaswar gamovacxadoT<br />
viRac damnaSaaved da vi-<br />
Rac _ msxverplad. es azaralebs<br />
marTlmsajulebas, radgan Semdeg,<br />
sasamarTloSi davis ganxilvisas,<br />
mosamarTle sazogadoebrivi<br />
azris zewolis qveS aRmoCndeba<br />
da es ukve damoukideblobis,<br />
miukerZoeblobis xarisxze<br />
aisaxeba.<br />
vSiSob, rom am saqmeze mar-<br />
Tlmsajuleba ukve dazaralda<br />
da momavalSic, am saqmis arsebiTad<br />
ganxilvisas, qarTul sasamarTlos<br />
gamocda aqvs Casabarebeli,<br />
ramdenad miukerZoebeli<br />
iqneba da obieqtur, samarTlian<br />
ganaCens gamoitans.<br />
saqmis detalebs vicnob da<br />
es saqme namdvilad ar aris kargi<br />
magaliTi ojaxur Zaladobaze.<br />
magram mavanma iseTi rezonansuli<br />
gaxada sajaro sivrce-<br />
Si da gr. bakuraZe ukve moZaladed<br />
Seracxes, vSiSob, „sanimuSod”<br />
ar dasajon.<br />
mainc imeds vitoveb, gr. bakuraZis<br />
interesebis damcveli<br />
advokatebi sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmeSi yvela saWiro mtkicebulebas<br />
waradgenen, rom sasamarTlom<br />
sworad daadginos,<br />
vin moZaladea da vin _ msxverpli<br />
da, saerTod, iyo Tu ara aq<br />
ojaxuri Zaladoba.<br />
„qronika+“-is kidev erTi<br />
mopasuxe advokati ledi tu-<br />
kvaZea:<br />
_ dea goSxeTelianis mier<br />
samarTaldamcveli organoebisTvis<br />
wardgenilia e. w. smaili<br />
(romlis Sinaarsic gaurkvevelia),<br />
TiTqos grigol bakuraZem<br />
Semakavebeli oqmi daarRvia da<br />
amis gamo quTaisis saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlom samdRiani patimroba<br />
Seufarda. Semdeg telefoni<br />
daTvalierda (es advokatebis<br />
daJinebuli TxovniT moxda)<br />
da dadginda, rom im ricxv-<br />
Si esemesi saerTod ar aris gagzavnili,<br />
amitom sasamarTlom<br />
aqti gaauqma.<br />
amis Semdeg mosarCele isev<br />
samarTaldamcvel organoebs<br />
mimarTavs da iTxovs, rom daikiTxon<br />
grigolis deda, da, ZiZa,<br />
romlebic interviuSi „moZlade<br />
Tu msxverpli” weren, rom grigol<br />
bakuraZe araCveulebrivi<br />
mamaa. ZiZa ixsenebs istorias,<br />
Tu rogor uvlida bavSvs da a.<br />
S. amis gamo iTxovs, rom es adamianebi<br />
samarTaldamcvel organoebSi<br />
daibaron. mivdivarT<br />
da iqve aRniSnuli gverdi daTvalierda,<br />
maTi mxridan aranairi<br />
Seuracxmyofeli damokidebuleba<br />
ar yofila. iqve sakiTxi<br />
davayeneT, rom Zalian Seuracxmyofeli<br />
postebi iwereba,<br />
sadac bakuraZeebis ojaxis diskreditacia<br />
mimdinareobs, maT<br />
uwodeben moZaladeebs, patimrebis<br />
mwameblebs da a. S.<br />
da es aris gamoxatvis Tavisufleba?<br />
posti, romelic adamianebs,<br />
ojaxs Seuracxyofas ayenebs,<br />
ciliswamebiT savse ar<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
aris? am postis naxvis Semdeg<br />
bakuraZeebis mcirewlovan<br />
Svils problemebi eqmneba. mesame<br />
Svili erT-erT iseT aqtiur<br />
skolaSi swavlobs, sadac<br />
xSiria konfliqturi situaciebi<br />
mozardebs Soris. Sedegad,<br />
bavSvma skolaSi wasvlaze uari<br />
ganacxada. aman mamis, goCa bakuraZis<br />
janmrTelobis mdgomareobis<br />
gauareseba gamoiwvia. advokatebma<br />
daJinebiT vTxoveT,<br />
rom samarTaldamcvelebisTvis<br />
miemarTa, raTa ojaxis Seuracxyofa<br />
aekrZalaT.<br />
amitom moviTxoveT Semakavebeli<br />
orderi, rac saqalaqo sasamarTlom<br />
daakmayofila. SemdgomSi,<br />
radgan am feisbuqgverdis<br />
identificireba ar momxdara,<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlom<br />
es gadawyvetileba gaauqma.<br />
17 Tebervals goSxeTeliani<br />
isev mimarTavs samarTaldamcvel<br />
organoebs, rom goCa bakuraZis<br />
mxridan erT-erTi sainformacio<br />
saagentos niusis gaziareba<br />
xdeba. Cven isev mivyavarT<br />
gamokiTxvaze policiis<br />
ganyofilebaSi. iqve deas mxridan<br />
Semakavebeli orderis gamowera<br />
xdeba goCa bakuraZeze<br />
da nino msxilaZeze, dedamTilmamamTilze.<br />
am dros, aRniSnuli postebiT<br />
yvelaze Rirebuli, bakura-<br />
Zeebis ojaxuri Rirseba ilaxeboda.<br />
mas yvelaferi waarTves<br />
da isev aqeT adanaSaulebdnen.<br />
ojaxis TeTreuli saqveynod<br />
gamofines, visac ki ar ezareba,<br />
am saqmis garCeviT aris dakavebuli.<br />
Tu qmarsa da cols Soris<br />
konfliqti moxda, dedam-<br />
Tili da mamamTili ra SuaSia?<br />
garda amisa, dacvis mxarem<br />
yvela mimowera Seiswavla, rac<br />
manamde deasa da grigols Soris<br />
mimdinareobda, aseve ojaxis<br />
wevrebs Soris. rodesac amas<br />
sasamarTloSi wavadgenT, an es<br />
yvelaferi sajaro gaxdeba, im<br />
xalxs, vinc dRes bakuraZeebis<br />
ojaxs lanZRavs, ar Sercxveba?<br />
Txovna-mudaris garda, rom<br />
modi, dea, bavSvi naxe, xom araferi<br />
gWirdeba, amis garda am<br />
satelefono CanawerebSi sxva<br />
araferia. exveweba grigoli, rom<br />
nu daelodebi sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas, modi da naxe<br />
Seni Svili. pasuxobs, rom me<br />
davelodebi, mosamarTlis kompetenciaSi<br />
eWvi ar meparebao.<br />
emudareba grigoli, rom<br />
mzad aris, mis Svils deda<br />
hyavdes, man mouaros, rom srulfasovnad<br />
gaizardos, esec xom<br />
dadgmuli ambavi ar aris? am<br />
dros Sou-speqtaklebis dadgma<br />
raSi gvWirdeba? isev, ra moxda<br />
3 ricxvSi: grigoli qveyanaSi<br />
brundeba, bavSvi dedasTanaa da<br />
unda waiyvanos. es yvelaferi im<br />
Seuracxmyofeli mesijebiT iwyeba,<br />
rasac goSxeTeliani ugzavnis<br />
bakuraZes da es mesijebi<br />
aramarto misi piradia, aramed<br />
is bakuraZes ugzavnis mesame<br />
piris – misi megobari mamakacis,<br />
vinme iraklis mesijebis e.w.<br />
`grigoli qveyanaSi brundeba, bavSvi dedasTanaa da<br />
unda waiyvanos. es yvelaferi im Seuracxmyofeli<br />
mesijebiT iwyeba, rasac goSxeTeliani ugzavnis<br />
bakuraZes da es mesijebi aramarto misi piradia,<br />
aramed is bakuraZes ugzavnis mesame piris – misi<br />
megobari mamakacis, vinme iraklis mesijebis e.w.<br />
sqrinSotebs, romelTa Sinaarsi damcinavi da<br />
Seuracxmyofelia bakuraZis mimarT. bakuraZe xvdeba<br />
goSxeTelianis megobar mamakacs viTarebis garkvevis<br />
mizniT da isini midian dea goSxeTelianis mamasTan<br />
salaparakod, rac mTavrdeba bakuraZeze TavdasxmiT<br />
goSxeZTelianis mamis mxridan da am konfliqtSi<br />
erTveba aseve dea goSxeTeliani. swored am<br />
konfliqtis amsaxveli audioCanaweri aqvs dacvis<br />
mxares, rogorc mTavari mtkicebuleba, aseve Zalian<br />
bevri audiomasala, romlebic telefonebis<br />
mexsierebebSia Senaxuli da sadac kargad Cans ojaxisa<br />
da bakuraZis araCveulebrivi damokidebulebebi dea<br />
goSxeTelianTan~<br />
sqrinSotebs, romelTa Sinaarsi<br />
damcinavi da Seuracxmyofelia<br />
bakuraZis mimarT. bakuraZe<br />
xvdeba goSxeTelianis megobar<br />
mamakacs viTarebis garkvevis<br />
mizniT da isini midian dea goSxeTelianis<br />
mamasTan salaparakod,<br />
rac mTavrdeba bakuraZeze<br />
TavdasxmiT goSxeZTelianis mamis<br />
mxridan da am konfliqtSi<br />
erTveba aseve dea goSxeTeliani.<br />
swored am konfliqtis amsaxveli<br />
audioCanaweri aqvs dacvis<br />
mxares, rogorc mTavari mtkicebuleba,<br />
aseve Zalian bevri<br />
audiomasala, romlebic telefonebis<br />
mexsierebebSia Senaxuli<br />
da sadac kargad Cans ojaxisa<br />
da bakuraZis araCveulebrivi<br />
damokidebulebebi dea go-<br />
SxeTelianTan.<br />
sadac unda waiRon da eqspertiza<br />
Caataron, iq rame Zaladobis<br />
elements ver naxaven. amas<br />
saxalxo damcvelsac vTxovdi,<br />
rom saqmeSi misi eqspertebi<br />
CaerTon. bolos da bolos, xom<br />
unda naxon, am ojaxSi Zaladobriv<br />
qmedebas marTla adgili<br />
hqonda Tu ara? marto erT mxares<br />
ratom eyrdnobian?<br />
im dRes, 3 ianvars, igive saxis<br />
dazianebebi grigol bakuraZesac<br />
aqvs miRebuli. amis Semdeg,<br />
goSxeTelianebi amboben, rom<br />
grigoli maT axrCobda. sad aris<br />
am moxrCobis dazianebebi?<br />
TiTqos wixlebiT scemda, sad<br />
aris dazianebebi, rodesac amdeni<br />
saxis eqspertizaa Catarebuli?<br />
sad ismis iq bavSvis xma,<br />
romelic kvalifikaciis ganmsazRvrelia,<br />
rom TiTqos es arasrulwlovnis<br />
Tvalwin moxda.<br />
waiReT, batonebo, es mtkicebulebebi,<br />
Cven Tu ar gvendobiT,<br />
eqspertiza Tqven CaatareT.<br />
araswori informaciaa, rom<br />
grigoli axrCobda, wixlebiT<br />
scemda, adgilze bavSvi iyo da<br />
rom amdeni xani Zaladobda.<br />
ganxorcielebuli gegmis Sedegad,<br />
grigol bakuraZem TviTmkvleloba<br />
scada.<br />
Semdeg yalbi feisbuqgverdebi<br />
iqmneba, saidanac calke me<br />
memuqrebian, calke isev sazogadoebriv<br />
azrs qmnian, rom grigol<br />
bakuraZe moZaladea; rom<br />
mas arc TviTmkvleloba ucdia<br />
da misT. rodesac Sesabamisi masalebi,<br />
audioCanaweri arsebobs,<br />
movides nebismieri eqsperti<br />
da mzad varT, pasuxi gavceT.<br />
ai, am fonze, es biWi 30 dRea,<br />
SimSilobs, ase gamoxatavs mis<br />
mimarT sazogadoebis damokidebulebas.<br />
sisxlSi Saqris maRali<br />
Semcveloba aqvs (faqtobrivad,<br />
diabeti) da eqimi ver SeviyvaneT.<br />
aseve Tirkmlebze problemebi<br />
aqvs da sasjelaRsrulebas<br />
vTxoveT, rom TviTonve<br />
samkurnalod gadaiyvanos.<br />
sxvadasxva qveyanaSi misi biznesi<br />
safrTxis qveS dgas. naklebad<br />
mZime danaSaulze, am muxlze<br />
erTaderTia, vinc patimrobaSi<br />
zis, es visi dakveTiT<br />
xdeba? amitom aRkveTis RonisZieba<br />
strasburgSic gasaCivrebulia.<br />
_ sasamarTlo sxdoma rodis<br />
aris?<br />
_ vadebi gaagrZeles. TiTqos<br />
goSxeTelianebi axal eqspertizas<br />
atareben mamamisTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT. Cvenc moviTxoveT, rom<br />
yvela satelefono amonawerze<br />
eqspertiza Catarebuliyo da<br />
amis gakeTeba aravis surs _ arc<br />
gamoZiebas da arc samoqalaqo<br />
seqtors da maT Soris, arc dea<br />
goSxeTelians.<br />
Tu sasamarTlo wnexidan da<br />
SekveTidan ganTavisuflda, saboloo<br />
jamSi, samarTlian gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiRebs. wina xelisuflebas<br />
kritikis qarcecxl-<br />
Si atarebdnen, politikuri SekveTebi<br />
gaqvTo da dRes amas arasamTavrobo<br />
seqtori akeTebs,<br />
rasac telemarTlmsajulebac<br />
emateba. mosamarTleebi swored<br />
amiT xelmZRvaneloben. es qveyana<br />
aRar aris, Temida sasamarTlo<br />
darbazidan ukve gaiqca, da<br />
prokuratura, sasamarTlo da<br />
maRali politikuri Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi dea goSxeTelianis<br />
kaprizebis mixedviT moqmedeben.<br />
Cven vgmobT Zaladobas, magram<br />
es Zaladobis saqme ar<br />
aris.<br />
amitom meore mxarem bavSvis<br />
momavalze unda izrunos, radgan<br />
bakuraZeebis mxridan aranairi<br />
safrTxe ar emuqreba.<br />
adamiani moralurad, ekonomikurad<br />
gaanadgures, biznesebi<br />
safrTxis qveS dauyenes, bankebSi<br />
uamravi sakredito valdebuleba<br />
aqvs, faqtobrivad, yvelaferi<br />
gamoacales. amiT Cven,<br />
yvela erTad, grigol bakuraZes<br />
vanadgurebT.<br />
am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„qronika+~-ma dea goSxeTelians<br />
kiTxvebi gaugzavna (mTavari<br />
aqcenti am saqmidan gamosavalze<br />
gakeTda orive mxarisTvis,<br />
rom maTi da aseve Svilis<br />
interesebi ar dazaral-<br />
des), razec aseTi Sinaarsis<br />
pasuxi miviReT:<br />
„Zalian samwuxaroa, nacvlad<br />
imisa, rom gainteresebdeT simarTle,<br />
gaigoT Tu ra moxda<br />
Cem Tavs, rogori Zaladobis<br />
qveS vcxovrobdi da ra mZime<br />
dReebi gamoviare, calsaxad<br />
ikveTeba, rom Tqven, savaraudod,<br />
asrulebT ledi tukvaZis<br />
miTiTebebs. Tqveni gazeTis mepatrone<br />
eliso kilaZe ledi<br />
tukvaZis megobaria da Tan sakmaod<br />
axlo. me ar mjera Tqveni<br />
obieqturobis, Tqven propaganda<br />
moaxdineT ukanonobis. gancda<br />
meufleba, rom am kiTxvas<br />
svamT ara Tqven, aramed ledi<br />
tukvaZe, raTa axali fsiqologiuri<br />
zewola ganaxorcielon<br />
Cemze. yvela moZalade kacs, _<br />
kacs, romelic meuRleze awevs<br />
xels, sakuTari Svilis dedaze<br />
_ mas saxelmwifom da sazogadoebam<br />
unda gasces adekvaturi<br />
pasuxi, gansakuTrebiT maSin,<br />
rodesac ar acnobiereben saku-<br />
Tar danaSauls.<br />
es aris Cemi pasuxi, me am Temaze<br />
met komentars ar gavake-<br />
Teb. kargad brZandebodeT”, _<br />
ambobs dea goSxeTeliani. „qronika+~<br />
mzad aris, nebismier<br />
dros, saqmesTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
misi dawvrilebiTi pozicia moisminos.<br />
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yvelaze Zlieri<br />
„qali sustia, magram deda _<br />
„qali sustia, magram deda _<br />
ana uruSaZe<br />
Zlieri”, _ hiugom ase gansazRvra<br />
dedis raoba. yvelaze Zlieri ar-<br />
sebebi msoflioSi sworedac rom dedebi brZandebian. qalebi,<br />
romlebic sakuTari Svilebis bednierebisTvis mzad arian, yve-<br />
lanair dabrkolebas gaumklavdnen da Secvalon cxovreba,<br />
gaxdnen ukvdavebi da SeuZlebelic ki SeZlon.<br />
skolaSi yvelas gvaswavlidnen,<br />
ufro patarebi rom viyaviT,<br />
warmoTqmiTac gvaTqmevinebdnen<br />
leqsebs dedebze _ cxovrebis<br />
sawyisebze, romelTa saxelsac<br />
ukavSirdeba msoflio-<br />
Si yvelaze didi siyvaruli _<br />
dedaSviloba.<br />
marTalia, yvela dRe imisaa,<br />
vinc gviyvars da visac vuyvarvarT,<br />
Tumca dedebs, yvelaze<br />
Zlier qalebs msoflioSi, TavianTi<br />
personaluri dRec aqvT<br />
kalendarze wiTlad moniSnuli,<br />
roca yvavilebiT Tu feradi<br />
warwerebiT xeldamSvenebuli<br />
Svilebi maTi gulis gaxarebas<br />
da dResaswaulis galamazebas<br />
cdiloben.<br />
sainteresoa, ratom aRiniSneba<br />
martis samSi dedebis dRe?<br />
saidan iRebs saTaves Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
es Zalian Tbili da sayvareli<br />
dResaswauli?<br />
SeiZleba, bevrma arc icodes,<br />
rom dedis dRe saqarTvelos<br />
pirvelma prezidentma, zviad<br />
gamsaxurdiam daawesa. es gadawyvetileba<br />
1991 wels saqarTvelos<br />
umaRlesma sabWom daakanona.<br />
maSin fiqrobdnen, rom dedis<br />
dRe saqarTveloSi saerTaSoriso<br />
qalTa dRes – 8 marts Secvlida,<br />
Tumca dRemde saqarTveloSi<br />
orive dResaswauli aRiniSneba.<br />
da marti qalebis Tvea dRemde.<br />
gazafxuli dgeba da iwyeba<br />
qalTa dResaswaulebi.<br />
dae, icnobdeT yvelaze Zlier<br />
qalebs msoflioSi, qarTveli<br />
dedebis mcire nawils TavianTi<br />
istoriebiT da Svilebisamdi<br />
usazRvro siyvaruliT da<br />
28<br />
TavdadebiT, rac yvela dedas<br />
aerTianebs msoflioSi.<br />
studenti deda<br />
`SeiZleba, bevrma arc icodes, rom dedis dRe<br />
saqarTvelos pirvelma prezidentma, zviad<br />
gamsaxurdiam daawesa. es gadawyvetileba 1991<br />
wels saqarTvelos umaRlesma sabWom daakanona.<br />
maSin fiqrobdnen, rom dedis dRe<br />
saqarTveloSi saerTaSoriso qalTa dRes - 8<br />
marts Secvlida, Tumca dRemde saqarTveloSi<br />
orive dResaswauli aRiniSneba.<br />
da marti qalebis Tvea dRemde. gazafxuli<br />
dgeba da iwyeba qalTa dResaswaulebi~<br />
Tamuna kacaZe, 24 wlis:<br />
_ 2011 wels Cavabare ivane<br />
javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetis<br />
socialur-politikur mecnierebaTa<br />
fakultetis Jurnalistikisa<br />
da masobrivi komunikaciis<br />
mimarTulebaze. pirvel kursze<br />
Sevqmeni ojaxi, amitom momiwia<br />
akademiuris aReba da<br />
droebiT Sevwyvite swavla. misi<br />
gagrZeleba 3 wlis Semdeg Sev-<br />
Zeli. amJamad var meoTxe kursze,<br />
droebiT umuSevari. swavlis<br />
paralelurad vzrdi 2 Svils.<br />
myavs gogonebi: qeTevani da<br />
elisabedi. pirveli Svili qeTevani<br />
meyola 19 wlis asakSi, xolo<br />
elisabedi _ 20 wlis asakSi.<br />
qeTevani amJamad 5 wlisaa, xolo<br />
elisabedi _ 4-is.<br />
pirveli Svilis dabadebisas<br />
bavSvobis asaks sul 1 weli mqonda<br />
gadabijebuli. misi dabadeba,<br />
ra Tqma unda, did bednierebasTan<br />
iyo dakavSirebuli, magram<br />
paralelurad vgrZnobdi,<br />
rom misi gaCenis wamidan udidesi<br />
pasuxismgebloba mekisreboda.<br />
axlac maxsovs is sixaruli,<br />
rodesac pirvelad davinaxe qe-<br />
Tevani. sul pawawina iyo, vardisferi<br />
loyebi, qera Tma da didi,<br />
didi yavisferi Tvalebi<br />
hqonda. misi xelSi ayvana da Cemi<br />
Tvalebidan cremlebis wamosvla<br />
erTi iyo. bednierebisgan<br />
vtirodi da megona, rom im wams<br />
Cemze Zlieri adamiani ar arsebobda,<br />
vgrZnobdi, rogor memateboda<br />
Zala da vfiqrobdi,<br />
rom am cicqnas gamo mTel samyarosac<br />
ki gadavudgebodi win.<br />
ise mindoda, rom rac Sei-<br />
Zleba male daeZaxebina Cems<br />
Svils deda, mgoni, dReSi 100-<br />
jer vumeorebdi am sityvas. Cemma<br />
gulmodgine mcdelobamac<br />
uqmad ar Caiara da, daaxloebiT,<br />
7-8 Tvis asakSi ukve gamarTulad<br />
meZaxda dedas. maxsovs,<br />
pirvelad dilas, gamTeniisas<br />
gadmobrunda Cemken, Cems saxeze<br />
uyvarda TamaSi da swored, ma-<br />
Sin damiZaxa deda. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom jer dilis 6-7 saaTi<br />
iyo da saSinlad meZineboda,<br />
saswrafod gamovifxizle Tavi,<br />
xelSi aviyvane da Zalian bevri<br />
vefere. es iyo yvelaze dadebi-<br />
Ti emociebiT savse wuTebi.<br />
deda _ es yvelafris sawyisia<br />
CemTvis. yvelaze axlo, yvelaze<br />
Tbili, yvelaze mzrunveli,<br />
yvelaze mfarveli ram, rac<br />
ki SeiZleba amqveynad arsebobdes.<br />
dedoba ar aris mxolod<br />
bavSvis gaCena. swored, misi gaCenis<br />
dRidan iwyeba namdvili<br />
dedoba. Svilis gazrda bevrad<br />
ufro iolia, vidre misi aRzrda.<br />
sworad aRzrdili Svili,<br />
albaT, yvelaze didi bednierebaa<br />
mSoblisTvis. es aris urTulesi<br />
gza, romelic did moTminebasa<br />
da TiToeuli gadadgmuli<br />
nabijis gazomvas moiTxovs.<br />
studentoba da dedoba urTulesi<br />
saqmea, magram, amavdroulad<br />
es aris yvelaze didi motivis<br />
momcemi ram. roca ici,<br />
rom Svilebi gyavs aRsazrdeli,<br />
roca ici, rom mxolod Sen xar<br />
maTi patroni, maTi magaliTi,<br />
100-jer ufro gezrdeba motivacia,<br />
rom Seni kargi swavliT<br />
Svilebs, SeZlebisdagvarad, na-<br />
Teli momavali Seuqmna. sabednierod,<br />
arsebobs sabavSvo baRi,<br />
sadac isini dRis ZiriTad dros<br />
atareben, me ki Tavisufali<br />
dro mrCeba, rom leqciebs daveswro,<br />
xolo maTi daZinebisTanave<br />
viwyeb mecadineobas. es<br />
yvelaferi rTulia, magram SesaZlebeli.<br />
Tu survili gvaqvs,<br />
verc Svili da verc veraferi<br />
swavlaSi xels ver SegiSlis. piriqiT,<br />
kvlav vityvi, rom Svili<br />
yvelaze didi motivaciaa, rac<br />
ki SeiZleba adamians hqondes.<br />
saqmiani, warmatebuli deda<br />
TaTia CafiCaZe, 28 wlis:<br />
_ profesiiT Jurnalisti<br />
var. pirveli kursidan sxvadasxva<br />
media saSualebaSi vmuSaobdi.<br />
bolo 3 weliwadze metia,<br />
ukve „biznes media saqarTvelos”<br />
wevri var, romelic amJamad<br />
„tv pirvelze” gadis.<br />
deda sakmaod adreul asakSi<br />
gavxdi, 21 wlis. 2011 wlis 21<br />
Tebervals daibada nikolozi<br />
da mas Semdeg erTad movdivarT<br />
da yvelaferi viciT erTmane-<br />
Tis Sesaxeb. sakmaod mSvidi da<br />
wynari bavSvi iyo, zedmetad<br />
arasdros aravis awuxebda da<br />
dRemde ase grZeldeba. amboben,<br />
rom sakmaod gonieri da Wkviania.<br />
yvela Temaze SegiZlia elaparako<br />
da yvelafers zustad<br />
ise igebs, rogorc saWiroa. am-<br />
Jamad pirvel klasis moswavlea.<br />
sul cota xnis win 7-is gavxdiT,<br />
Tumca orivem viciT, rom arc<br />
fizikurad da arc gonebrivad<br />
7 wlis bavSvTan saerTo araferi<br />
gvaqvs.<br />
ver vityvi, rom danaxvisTanave<br />
vigrZeni, ras niSnavda Svilis<br />
gaCena. amas isic emateboda,<br />
rom nikolozi Cemi sabakalavros<br />
dacvis dRes daibada da<br />
ukve gabrazebuli viyavi masze,<br />
rom universitetis bolomde<br />
dasruleba ar damacada. Cveni<br />
urTierToba, faqtobrivad, meore<br />
dilidan daiwyo, roca fizikurad<br />
misi movla SevZeli. es<br />
uwyveti urTerToba, daaxloebiT,<br />
8 Tve gagrZelda. es iyo Cemi<br />
cxovrebis erTaderTi monakveTi,<br />
roca ar vmuSaobdi da<br />
yvelaze bevri dro mqonda mas-<br />
Tan urTierTobisTvis. laparaki<br />
sakmaod gvian daiwyo, manamde<br />
Zalian didxans „dada, dadas”<br />
ZaxiliT Semoifargleboda.<br />
Tbili da tkbili xma rom<br />
geZaxis, yovelTvis kargi SegrZnebaa.<br />
dedoba _ yvelaze rTuli<br />
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qalebi msoflioSi<br />
profesia profesiebs Soris.<br />
profesia, romelic arc erT<br />
Secdomas ar gapatiebs da win<br />
aucileblad dagxvdeba yvela<br />
araswori nabiji, romelic mas-<br />
Tan mimarTebiT gadadgi. yvelaze<br />
mTavars rasac vcdilob<br />
aris is, rom masTan megobrobis<br />
jaWvi ar gawydes da piriqiT,<br />
yoveldRe es urTierToba am<br />
formiT gaZlierdes. ar minda,<br />
rom odesme mas CemTan rame dasamali<br />
hqondes, an kidev uaresi,<br />
rames ver meubnebodes SiSis<br />
an imis gamo, rom ver gavigeb.<br />
dedoba aris roli, statusi da<br />
valdebuleba, rom Svils sworad<br />
cxovreba aswavlo. ubralod,<br />
am swavlebas garkveuli cikli<br />
aqvs, romlis dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg misi cxovreba mxolod<br />
misia da masSi Carevisa da miT<br />
ufro, ramis gadawyvetis ufleba<br />
aravis aqvs, maT Soris, arc<br />
dedas.<br />
drois deficiti yvelaze<br />
mTavari problemaa, rac ukve<br />
wlebia mawuxebs. arasdros myofnis<br />
24 saaTi im yvelafris<br />
mosaswrebad, rac im dRes maqvs<br />
dagegmili. magram ver vityvi,<br />
rom amis gamo nikolozTan<br />
problemebi meqmneba. erT-erTi<br />
mTavari sakiTxi, rasac gagebiT<br />
ekideba, swored Cemi samsaxuria.<br />
vfiqrob, rom urTierTobis<br />
deficiti ar gvaqvs, yoveldRe<br />
vajamebT ganvlil dRes,<br />
skolis, samsaxuris ambebis vuyvebiT<br />
erTmaneTs da a. S. dasvenebis<br />
dReebis 90%, faqtobrivad,<br />
mis gankargulebaSia. mTeli<br />
kviris danaklisis amovsebas<br />
SabaT-kviris xarjze vaxerxebT.<br />
mravalSviliani deda<br />
fiqria TevzaZe, 34 wlis:<br />
_ vcxovrob ojaxTan erTad<br />
TbilisSi, var diasaxlisi.<br />
16 wlis asakSi ukve deda viyavi,<br />
Sesabamisad, swavla ver movaswari,<br />
Semdeg gadabmiT meyola<br />
eqvsi Svili da aravin myavda<br />
damxmare, veRar SevZeli swavlis<br />
gagrZeleba, Tumca aucileblad<br />
vapireb, rom romelime<br />
profesias daveuflo. mimaCnia,<br />
rom ganaTlebis miReba da sakuTari<br />
Tavis damkvidreba arasdrosaa<br />
gvian.<br />
6 Svili myavs. ufrosia nino<br />
xanTaZe, romelic 18 wlisaa,<br />
Semdeg aris ana-maria 15 wlis,<br />
barbare 10 wlis, zura 6-is, elisabedi<br />
4-is da andria 2 wlis.<br />
yvela gansxvavebulia xasiaTebiT<br />
da TvisebebiT.<br />
rTulia, martom aRzardo<br />
eqvsi Svili, magram tkbilia, sa-<br />
Ramos daRlili rom Camovjdebi<br />
da yvelas erTad Tavmoyrils<br />
vxedav, maSin bednieri var.<br />
Zilis dros yvelas rom Camovuvli<br />
sawolebTan, tkbilad vakoceb<br />
Sublze da mSvidobian Rames<br />
vusurveb, sul vfiqrob,<br />
rom Zalian Zlieri var, radgan<br />
eseni yvela me movavline qveyanas.<br />
swored am wams vacnobiereb,<br />
ramxela simdidris mflobeli<br />
var. yvelaze mTavari isaa, rom<br />
maT erTmaneTis mimarT didi<br />
mzrunvelobis grZnoba aqvT.<br />
pirvelad deda rom gavxvdi,<br />
Zalian patara viyavi. maSin gaazrebuli<br />
ar mqonda, ramxela<br />
bednierebaa es, Tumca Semdeg<br />
ukve ufro advili iyo, _ rac<br />
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met Svils vaCendi, miT metad<br />
vacnobierebdi, ra saswauli SegrZnebaa<br />
dedoba. yvela Svilis<br />
guliscemis gagebisas vitire,<br />
sul mgonia, rom es pirvelia da<br />
aqamde aseTi araferi ganmicdia.<br />
ufrosma Svilma pirvelad<br />
deda 6 Tvis asakSi damiZaxa da<br />
maxsovs, vitire. mivxvdi, rom<br />
mxolod amis gamo Rirda, mTeli<br />
Cemi cxovreba, romelic gamoviare.<br />
dedoba Zalian magari ramaa,<br />
yvelaze magari ram, rac qalma<br />
SeiZleba ganicados. Zalian<br />
rTulia Cvens qveyanaSi mraval-<br />
Sviliani ojaxis diasaxlisoba,<br />
ar gvaqvs Sesabamisi xelSewyoba<br />
da arc statusi, rasac<br />
Zalian ganvicdi. qali Tu moindomebs,<br />
yvelafers moaswrebs.<br />
axla patarebs Cemi mzrunveloba<br />
sWirdebaT da naklebad maqvs<br />
dro Tavis mosavlelad, Tumca<br />
qals yvelaze metad sworedac<br />
rom bunebrioba uxdeba. yvelaze<br />
bunebrivad da lamazad ki<br />
Cems SvilebTan erTad vgrZnob<br />
Tavs.<br />
emigranti deda<br />
nona maRlakeliZe, 50 wlis:<br />
_ vmuSaob saberZneTSi erTerTi<br />
ojaxis damxmared. myavs<br />
ori Svili: 32 wlis avTo da 31<br />
wlis marina.<br />
pirvelad deda 18 wlis asak-<br />
Si gavxdi. ar mjeroda, rom es<br />
bavSvi, romelic axlaxan moevlina<br />
samyaros, Cemi iyo da sul<br />
mindoda meyurebina. eqTans<br />
vTxove, cota xniT damitove,<br />
Tu SeiZleba, mxolod Sevxedav,<br />
mets arafers vizam-meTqi. mindoda,<br />
sul mis gverdiT vyofiliyavi.<br />
danaxvisTanave raRac<br />
eniT auxsnelma grZnobam damiara<br />
sxeulSi, albaT, swored es<br />
iyo dedobrivi grZnoba da siyvaruli,<br />
rasac sityvebiT ver<br />
aRwer. dedoba, Cemi azriT, didi<br />
valia cxovrebaSi, romelsac<br />
pirnaTlad Sesruleba sWirdeba.<br />
Cemma Svilma pirvelad deda<br />
rom damiZaxa, am emocias ver<br />
aRvwer. mindoda, yvelas gaego,<br />
rom avTom deda damiZaxa, Zalian<br />
bednieri da amayi var, rom<br />
deda mqvia.<br />
ukve 11 welia, emigraciaSi<br />
var da aq vmuSaob Cemi samSoblodan<br />
da Svilebidan Sors.<br />
Tavis droze, imitom miviRe es<br />
gadawyvetileba, rom saSualeba<br />
ar mqonda, Svilebi merCina, maT-<br />
Tvis saWiro pirobebi Semeqmna<br />
da maTi momavali cxovreba gamelamazebina.<br />
Zalian miWirs maTgan<br />
Sors yofna, mxolod skaipiT<br />
da fotoebiT maTi danaxva.<br />
ukve bebia var, Tumca Cems SviliSvilebsac<br />
Soridan vicnob,<br />
mxolod videoSi. rTulia, magram<br />
cxovreba da dedobis mZime<br />
vali moiTxovs amas. mxolod<br />
Cemi Svilebis gamo mqvia dRes<br />
emigranti deda.<br />
momavali deda<br />
Tako fanjikiZe, 27 wlis:<br />
_ swavla davamTavre da 21<br />
wlidan vmuSaob. amJamad Cemi<br />
samsaxuria klubi 71 sabavSvo<br />
departamentSi.<br />
Cemi meore naxevari akaki xomeriki<br />
2 wlis winaT gavicani da<br />
iqidan gamomdinare, rom ukve<br />
Zalian kargad vicodi, ra mindoda<br />
cxovrebaSi, vis da rogors<br />
veZebdi, movlenebic maleve ganviTarda.<br />
erT weliwadSi, 12<br />
marts, daviniSneT da maleve<br />
gvqonda qorwili, zustad ise-<br />
Ti, rogorzedac miocnebia.<br />
pirvelad rodesac gavige,<br />
rom orsulad viyavi, emocia<br />
bevrnairi iyo, Zalian bednierebi<br />
viyaviT, amave dros, odnav<br />
dabneulebi. vxvdebodiT, rom<br />
raRac Zalian magari moxda, iwyeboda<br />
axali etapi, magram bolomde<br />
ver vacnobierebdiT,<br />
rogor wamebSi Segvecvala statusi<br />
da momavali mSoblebi<br />
gavxdiT.<br />
roca acnobiereb, rom Sens<br />
sxeulSi axali sicocxle izrdeba,<br />
yvelaferi radikalurad<br />
sxvanairi xdeba, icvleba cxovrebis<br />
stili, aRar fiqrob mxolod<br />
sakuTar Tavze da yvelafers<br />
akeTeb, imasac ki, rac warmoudgenlad<br />
migaCnda, oRond<br />
Seni Svili jamrTeli moevlinos<br />
qveyanas da qalis mTavari<br />
ocneba axdes.<br />
rodesac pirvel mkveTrad<br />
gamoxatul moZraobas igrZnob,<br />
yvelaze metad zustad maSin<br />
aRiqvam faqtsac, rom mucliT<br />
dagyavs adamiani, romelic ar<br />
ginaxavs da ukve qveyanas gir-<br />
Cevnia.<br />
jer kidev zustad ar vici,<br />
ra SegrZnebaa, iyo deda, magram<br />
dazustebiT vici, im wamidan,<br />
roca gaCndeba da pirvelad davinaxav,<br />
mis gamo yvelafers Sev-<br />
Zleb, Tundac qalisTvis Seu-<br />
Zlebels!<br />
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dan iyrida kenWs Tu opoziciidan,<br />
yovelTvis maRal Sedegs debda<br />
xolme. dRes vanSi aseTi upirobod<br />
Zlieri kandidati aRaravis hyavs,<br />
amitomac vani xelisuflebis administraciuli<br />
resursis parpaSis<br />
arealia.<br />
aseT sasaTbure pirobebSi „ocnebisgan”<br />
mxardaWeril ugulavas<br />
meore adgilze gasvlis realuri<br />
Sansi aqvs, rac imas niSnavs, rom<br />
opozicias Soris is pirvel adgils<br />
daikavebs da maSin opoziciis<br />
erTiani kandidati mxolod mesame<br />
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Tqma unda, opoziciuri gaer-<br />
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morevSi, Senelda da nel-nela saerTod<br />
gaqra. yvelafers is garemoebac<br />
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Sualedur<br />
rogorc mosalodneli iyo, er-<br />
demna veSapiZe<br />
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ioli saqme ar aRmoCnda.<br />
es idea, yovel SemTxvevaSi, jerjerobiT, ganuxorciele-<br />
belia. xonisa da vanis saarCevno olqSi Sualeduri arCevnebi<br />
amis SesaniSnavi magaliTi aRmoCnda. opoziciam saero kandi-<br />
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informaciiT, opozicia am kviridan daiwyebs. manamde ki mov-<br />
lenaTa ganviTarebas gadavavloT Tvali.<br />
30<br />
erTiani kandidatis idea opoziciaSi<br />
ukve ramdenime Tvea, musirebs.<br />
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win, saarCevno reformaze<br />
momuSave TxuTmeti partiisgan Semdgari<br />
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gaJRerda. Tumca am ideam ganvi-<br />
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TavianTi partiuli kandidatebi<br />
daayenes. Sedegic yvelam SesaniSnavad<br />
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ekida, opoziciam xmebi erTmaneTs<br />
waarTva da „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
amis xarjze gadarCa.<br />
xonisa da vanis gaerTianebul<br />
olqSi, arCevnebis moaxloebasTan<br />
erTad, erTiani kandidatis Tema<br />
kvlav gaaqtiurda. es gaaqtiureba,<br />
imavdroulad, saprezidento arCevnebsac<br />
ukavSirdeba, radgan mTavari<br />
politikuri drama swored Semodgomaze<br />
gaTamaSdeba. amitomac<br />
bevri xoni-vanis arCevnebs, rogorc<br />
repeticias, ise uyurebda. es<br />
repeticia sWirdebodaT rogorc<br />
opoziciur partiebs, ise opoziciurad<br />
ganwyobil amomrCevelsac.<br />
opozicia Zalebs mosinjavda,<br />
Tu ramdenad SeZlebdnen xelisuflebisTvis<br />
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politikuri Sexedulebebis<br />
mqone partiebi imasac gaarkvevdnen,<br />
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Sromlobas. da rac mTavaria, gaarkvevdnen,<br />
aqvs Tu ara maT aseT<br />
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aq SeTanxmebisTvis gacilebiT<br />
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kvalificiur statuss, anu rogori<br />
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kandidatma saprezidento arCevnebze,<br />
partias amiT arc yovelTviuri<br />
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da arc komisiis wevrebi da<br />
ubnebze warmomadgenlebi emateba.<br />
ase rom, gansxvavebiT saparlamento<br />
da adgilobrivi arCevnebisgan,<br />
partiebs ar aqvT gansakuTrebuli<br />
interesi, damoukideblad miiRon<br />
monawileoba saprezidento arCevnebSi.<br />
saboloo jamSi, es maTTvis<br />
mxolod xarjia da sxva araferi.<br />
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Tu partias seriozuli ambiciebi<br />
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unda monawileobdes da seriozul<br />
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saprezidento erTian kandidatze<br />
Sejereba kidev imitomaa politikurad<br />
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ar dgas, blokebi da koaliciebi<br />
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Tu politikuri gansxvavebebis<br />
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saprezidentoze ki es sul<br />
araa saWiro. sakmarisia, partiebi<br />
kandidatze SeTanxmdnen da Semdeg<br />
yvela politikuri organizacia individualurad<br />
gamoucxadebs mas<br />
mxadraWeras da yvela partia Tavis<br />
amomrCevelTan imuSavebs saerTo<br />
kandidatisTvis xmebis mosazidad.<br />
aseve sxva arCevnebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
saprezidento arCevnebze partiebi<br />
ar warmoadgenen saarCevno<br />
siebs, rac tradiciulad mTavar<br />
dabrkolebas warmoadgens nebismieri<br />
erTobisTvis.<br />
TiTqmis analogiuri mdgomarebaa<br />
Sualeduri arCevnebis dros.<br />
anu am arCevnebis Semdegac arc kvalificiur<br />
statuss iRebs vinme,<br />
arc komisiis wevrebs da sabiujeto<br />
dafinansebas, arc partiuli<br />
siebia saWiro da arc blokebi. ase<br />
rom, politikuri nebis SemTxveva-<br />
Si, romelic opoziciaSi ar aRmoa-<br />
CndaT, Sualeduri arCevnebi namdvilad<br />
kargi repeticia iqneboda<br />
saprezidentos win.<br />
erTiani kandidatis ideas, xonivanis<br />
Sualedur arCevnebze, pirveli<br />
dartyma „evropulma saqarTvelom”<br />
miayena. partiebs Soris dawyebul<br />
konsultaciebs erTian kandidatTan<br />
dakavSirebiT maT maJoritarobis<br />
kandidatad gigi ugulavas<br />
dasaxelebiT upasuxes. ugulava<br />
imdenad swrafad dasaxelda,<br />
rom aSkara iyo, „evsaqoebi” Segnebulad<br />
Cqarobdnen, imitom rom Semdeg<br />
danarCenisTvis eTqvaT, _ ra<br />
vqnaT, dayenebuli gvyavs ukve ugulava,<br />
Torem erTiani kandidatis<br />
ideas Cvenc SemovuerTdebodiTo.<br />
bokeria-ugulavas gundis mier<br />
xelisuflebis wisqvilze wylis<br />
boikoti erTiani<br />
kandidatis nacvlad<br />
dasxmis Semdeg konsultaciebi<br />
opoziciaSi mainc gagrZelda. liderTa<br />
sabWoSi gawevrianebulma 14-<br />
ma arasaparlamento partiam am mimarTulebiT,<br />
mediisgan farulad,<br />
ramdenime Sexvedrac ki gamarTa.<br />
erT-erT aseT Sexvedraze gairkva,<br />
rom „nacionalur moZraobas” er-<br />
Tiani kandidatoba giorgi vaSaZisTvis<br />
SeuTavazebia. mas Semdeg, rac<br />
vaSaZe am SeTavazebas daTanxmda,<br />
Tavad vaSaZem es ambavi liderTa<br />
sabWoSi myof partiebsac gaando.<br />
Tumca, rogorc Cans, liderTa sabWosTvis<br />
erTi romelime partiis<br />
lideris kandidatura dauZleveli<br />
barieri aRmoCnda. miT umetes,<br />
iseTi kandidaturis, romelsac<br />
„nacionalebi” sTavazobdnen. Tumca<br />
argumentebi sruliad sxva dasaxelda.<br />
rogorc cnobilia, xonisa da vanis<br />
gaerTianebuli olqi specifikuri<br />
saarCevno olqebis siaSi Sedis.<br />
specifikuri ki is aris, rom xonSi,<br />
tradiciulad, Zlier poziciebs<br />
inarCunebs kako boboxiZe da misi<br />
sagvareulo klani. swored am gavlenebis<br />
wyalobiT boboxiZe namdvili<br />
rekordsmenia maJoritar deputatobaSi.<br />
boboxiZe „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” gayofis Semdeg bokerias<br />
gundSi aRmoCnda, amitomac<br />
adgilobriv arCevnebze xonSi boboxiZem<br />
35% aiRo, riTac meore<br />
adgilze gavida, „nacionalebis” kandidatma<br />
ki mxolod _ 7%. swored<br />
boboxiZisa da misi klanis imedi<br />
aqvs gigi ugulavasac, romelsac<br />
sxva araferi akavSirebs imereTis<br />
am saarCevno olqTan.<br />
xonisa da vanis gaerTianebul<br />
saarCevno olqSi amomrCevlis raodenobiT<br />
vani liderobs, anu vanSi<br />
gamarjvebuls mTlianad olqSi gamarjvebis<br />
meti Sansi aqvs. vanelebsac<br />
hyavdaT adre gamokveTili ma-<br />
Joritarobis kandidati. ramdenime<br />
wlis winaT gardacvlili beJan<br />
xurciZe, romelic xelisuflebi-<br />
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arCevnebs gamotovebs<br />
belia iseTi saarCevno kampaniis<br />
Catareba, romelic xon-vanSi arsebul<br />
politikur realobas Tavdayira<br />
daayenebs. mokled rom vTqvaT,<br />
arCevnebSi monawileobis argumentebi<br />
armonawileobis argumentebma<br />
gadawona.<br />
ra Tqma unda, rom ara „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” erTianobis Cam-<br />
Sleli pozicia, opoziciis erTian<br />
kandidats mxolod administraciul<br />
resursTan mouwevda brZola<br />
da es brZola SeiZleboda moego<br />
kidec. magram ebrZolo erTdroulad<br />
xelisuflebas da xelisuflebisgan<br />
yvelanairad mxardaWeril<br />
„opoziciur” kandidats, es garantirebul<br />
marcxs niSnavs. es marcxi<br />
erTmniSvnelovnad Zalian<br />
uaryofiTad aisaxeboda saprezidento<br />
arCevnebis perspeqtivazec.<br />
wagebiT dawyebuli erTiani fronti<br />
nakleb savaraudoa, mogebiT<br />
dasruldes.<br />
rogorc Cans, yvela am argumentis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT gadawyda,<br />
rom umjobesia, opoziciam vanixonis<br />
Sualedur arCevnebs boikoti<br />
gamoucxados. amiT opozicia<br />
reputaciasac SeinarCunebs, vinc<br />
boikots ar SemouerTdeba, maT<br />
lustraciasac moaxdens da saprezidento<br />
arCevnebisTvis mzadebasac<br />
met dros dauTmobs.<br />
amasobaSi, vani-xonis Sualedur<br />
arCevnebSi nel-nela ikveTeba xelisuflebis<br />
kandidati. saxeldeba<br />
ori: „mrewveli” zurab tyemalaZisa<br />
da vaneli daviT lorTqifaniZis<br />
kandidatura, Tumca arc erTsa da<br />
arc meores ar etyoba, rom maTi<br />
kandidatura vinmesTan iyos SeTanxmebuli.<br />
jerjerobiT ise Cans,<br />
rom es maTi piradi survilebis<br />
demonstrireba ufroa. „mrewvelebs”,<br />
romlebsac „ocnebam” erTi ma-<br />
Joritari ukve Seusriala parlamentSi,<br />
etyoba, mada aReZraT. gansakuTrebiT<br />
mas Semdeg, rac am erT<br />
maJoritars xelisuflebam xuTi<br />
Tavisi deputati aCuqa da fraqcia<br />
„mrewvelebi Seaqmnevina”. im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu tyemalaZe xelisuflebis<br />
wardgenili kandidati iqneba<br />
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simon nozaZis fraqcias kidev erTi<br />
wevri daematos. Tumca opoziciis<br />
boikotma, SesaZloa, tyemalaZis<br />
ocnebebSi koreqtivebi Seitanos.<br />
kerZod ki is, rom boikotis SemTxvevaSi<br />
„qarTul ocnebas” haeriviT<br />
dasWirdeba Tavisi satelitebi,<br />
swored satelitebis rolSi.<br />
xoni<br />
mxolod bokerias partiasTan<br />
Widili xoni-vanis arCevnebs Zalian<br />
daamsgavsebs 2015 wlis sagarejos<br />
Sualedur arCevnebs, sadac, mTeli<br />
opoziciis boikotis fonze, mxolod<br />
ori partia monawileobda.<br />
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araa gamoricxuli, zurab<br />
tyemalaZes kenWisyra Tavisive partiidan<br />
sTxovon. am SemTxvevaSi<br />
arCevnebSi ara ori, aramed ukve<br />
sami partia miiRebs monawileobas.<br />
Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, rom „ocnebis”<br />
satelitebis siaSi kidev samioTxi<br />
partiaa, xelisuflebas „mravalpartiuli”<br />
arCevnebis uzrunvelyofa<br />
ar gauWirdeba.<br />
Tumca dauZlevel problemad<br />
maTTvis is darCeba, rom sazogadoebisTvis<br />
es arCevnebi mainc erTpartiuli<br />
iqneba.<br />
rac Seexeba daviT lorTqifaniZis<br />
kandidaturas, bevri, albaT,<br />
verc xvdebiT, viszea saubari.<br />
gagaxsenebT, rom es is „ocnebis”<br />
deputatia, romlis pijakisa da<br />
saTvalis gamo ramdenime axalgazrdas<br />
cixeSi uSvebdnen. 2016 wlis<br />
saparlamento arCevnebze lorTqifaniZe<br />
„ocnebis” siaSi aRar Seiyvanes,<br />
arc romelime saTxilamuro<br />
kompleqsis direqtorad dauniSnavT<br />
jaWvlianiviT da amitom yvelam<br />
CaTvala, rom es SemTxveviT<br />
gadeputatebuli adamiani, aseve<br />
SemTxveviT Cabarda politikur istorias.<br />
magram, rogorc Cans, is<br />
N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
Tavad ase ar fiqrobs da kategoriulad<br />
moiTxovs, rom „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” maJoritarobis kandidatad<br />
swored is daasaxelon. is, rom<br />
xelisuflebaSi saprezidento kandidati<br />
ar hyavT, amas sazogadoeba<br />
ukve Seegua, magram Tu rigiT<br />
saarCevno olqSic aseTi komikuri<br />
viTareba Seiqmneboda, Zneli warmosadgeni<br />
iyo.<br />
saboloo jamSi, xoni-vanis Sualeduri<br />
arCevnebis Catareba mainc<br />
susis zurgze gadaivlis. bolos<br />
da bolos, giorgi liluaSvili,<br />
romlis gamoc gaxda aucilebeli<br />
Sualeduri arCevnebi, parlamentidan<br />
swored susSi gadaiyvanes da<br />
ufrosis moadgiled daniSnes, ase<br />
rom, arCevnebis Catarebasac mas<br />
daavaleben. didi albaTobiT, swored<br />
liluaSvilis SemoTavazebul<br />
kandidats dauWers mxars „qarTuli<br />
ocnebac”.<br />
Tu Sualeduri arCevnebis SedegiT<br />
qveyanaSi araferi Seicvleba,<br />
yvelas gvesmis, rom 2018 wlis saprezidento<br />
arCevnebi namdvilad<br />
saetapo SeiZleba gaxdes. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom saprezidento arCevnebamde<br />
jer kidev rva Tvea darCenili,<br />
sul ufro axlovdeba is<br />
dro, roca partiebma kandidaturebi<br />
unda daasaxelon. pirvel rig-<br />
Si kandidatis dasaxelebis valdebuleba<br />
xelisuflebas aqvs. kvirikaSvilisa<br />
da sergeenkos kandidaturebis<br />
Caxsnis Semdeg „ocnebaSi”<br />
`xonisa da vanis gaerTianebul olqSi,<br />
arCevnebis moaxloebasTan erTad, erTiani<br />
kandidatis Tema kvlav gaaqtiurda. es<br />
gaaqtiureba, imavdroulad, saprezidento<br />
arCevnebsac ukavSirdeba, radgan mTavari<br />
politikuri drama swored Semodgomaze<br />
gaTamaSdeba. amitomac bevri xoni-vanis<br />
arCevnebs, rogorc repeticias, ise uyurebda. es<br />
repeticia sWirdebodaT rogorc opoziciur<br />
partiebs, ise opoziciurad ganwyobil<br />
amomrCevelsac. opozicia Zalebs mosinjavda, Tu<br />
ramdenad SeZlebdnen xelisuflebisTvis<br />
realuri winaaRmdegobis gawevas. sruliad<br />
gansxvavebuli politikuri Sexedulebebis mqone<br />
partiebi imasac gaarkvevdnen, ramdenad<br />
SeZlebdnen TanamSromlobas. da rac mTavaria,<br />
gaarkvevdnen, aqvs Tu ara maT aseT<br />
TanamSromlobas perspeqtiva, Tundac<br />
saprezidento arCevnebze~<br />
seriozuli deficiti Seiqmna. rogorc<br />
Cans, am daeficitis Sesavsebad<br />
xelisuflebam xma gamoagdo,<br />
saprezidento kandidatad Tea wulukians<br />
vayenebTo. araerTxel mi-<br />
Tqvams, rom es am xelisuflebis<br />
sayvareli taqtikaa. sanam raime sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiReben, mediis meSveobiT<br />
cdiloben am TemasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT sazogadoebrivi azri Seityon.<br />
amitomac Worad avrceleben<br />
xmas da Semdeg reaqciebs akvirdebian.<br />
wulukianis kandidatobac<br />
Zalian hgavs am politikur zonda-<br />
Js. imisTvis, rom gavrcelebuli<br />
informacia metad damajerebeli<br />
iyos, saparlamento umravlesobidan<br />
isic daumates, rom qalebs<br />
iseTive Sansi unda hqondeT, rogorc<br />
kacebso. Tumca rogoradac<br />
ar unda ecadon xelisuflebaSi<br />
saprezidento kandidatTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT arsebuli deficitis aRmofxvras,<br />
jer mainc ver xerxdeba.<br />
CaSlili sasamarTlo reformisa<br />
da murusiZis xeliT marTuli mosamarTleebis<br />
pirobebSi iusticiis<br />
ministris dawinaurebis perspeqtiva<br />
mosaxleobisTvis didi veraferi<br />
ambavia.<br />
wlevandel saprezidento ar-<br />
Cevnebs bolo, pirdapiri wesiT<br />
Catarebul arCevnebs bevri eZaxis.<br />
rogorc cnobilia, „ocnebis” mier<br />
miRebuli erTpartiuli konstituciiT<br />
prezidents qarTveli eri<br />
pirdapiri wesiT wels bolojer<br />
airCevs. 2024- dan mas, praqtikulad,<br />
xelisufleba daniSnavs Tavisive<br />
arCeuli xmosnebis meSveobiT.<br />
arada, mosaxleobis 90%-ze meti<br />
acxadebs, rom misi survilia, prezidenti<br />
xalxis mier irCeodes. mosaxleobis<br />
aseTi erTsulovnebis<br />
miuxedavad, „qarTuli ocnebisTvis”<br />
mTavari mainc biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
xuSturebia. amitomac aqvs Semodgomaze<br />
dagegmil saprezidento<br />
arCevnebs esoden didi mniSvneloba.<br />
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gaimarjvebs, meocnebeebi ityvian,<br />
rom raxan amomrCevelma Cven<br />
dagviWira mxari, e. i. sazogadoeba<br />
Cvens sakonstitucio cvlilebebs<br />
emxroba da prezidentis pirdapiri<br />
arCevis wesi marTebulad uqmdebao,<br />
magram Tu xelisufleba<br />
damarcxda, es iqneba Ria gzavnili<br />
mTeli mosaxleobisgan, rom ivaniSvilis<br />
politika miuRebelia da<br />
„ocnebis” erTpartiuli konstitucia<br />
Sesacvlelia.<br />
miuxedavad yvela mxridan Sekvecili<br />
uflebebisa, opozicioneri<br />
prezidenti uzarmazar Zalas warmoadgens<br />
qarTul politikaSi. am<br />
Zalas, pirvel rigSi, mas is legitimacia<br />
aniWebs, romelsac amomrCevlisgan<br />
miiRebs. prezidenti aris<br />
erTaderTi adamiani, romelsac<br />
mTeli eris umravlesoba endoba.<br />
is aris mTavarsardali da rac<br />
mTavaria, swored prezidenti aris<br />
qveyanaSi konstituciis garanti.<br />
xalxisgan miRebul legitimacias<br />
Zalian bevri ramis gakeTeba<br />
SeuZlia, Tu swori mimarTulebiT<br />
gamoiyeneb. es legitimacia mis<br />
mflobels, miuxedavad SezRuduli<br />
uflebebisa, erT-erT mTavar<br />
politikur subieqtad yvela SemTxvevaSi<br />
aqcevs. prezidentis Zalauflebis<br />
iaraRs ki, upirveles yovlisa,<br />
warmoadgens misi sazogadoebrivi<br />
moRvaweoba, xalxosnoba da<br />
adamianebis ndobiT Seqmnili misi<br />
imiji. rogori uufleboc ar unda<br />
iyos prezidenti, Tu mas eri endoba<br />
da xalxi realurad mxars uWers,<br />
mis winaaRmdeg brZola Zalian<br />
gauWirdeba mTavrobasac da saparlamento<br />
umravlesobasac.<br />
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SemTxvevaSi gaurkvevelia, sad unda<br />
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Camoyalibebuli, kompleqsuri<br />
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gzebi. anu es adamianebi ganwirulebi<br />
arian da vinc rogor axerxebs,<br />
ise umklavdeba problemebs.<br />
realurad, gvaqvs sistema, romelic<br />
saxelmwifos mxridan dafinansebul<br />
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msubuqi fsiqikuri problemebis<br />
mqone adamianebi, romelTa<br />
identificirebac ar xdeba. veravin<br />
getyviT, ramdeni itanjeba am problemebiT.<br />
_ 1995 wels miRebuli kanoni<br />
fsiqiatriuli daxmarebis Sesaxeb<br />
pacientebs arCevanis Tavisufle-<br />
bas aZlevs da maT SeuZliaT, uari<br />
ganacxadon aRricxvaze. ras fiqrobT<br />
kanonmdeblobasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT da qmnis Tu ara igi prob-<br />
lemebs?<br />
_ bolo wlebSi Zalian kargi<br />
kanoni miviReT qmeduunarobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, romelmac saqarTvelo<br />
dasavleTTan da evropul RirebulebebTan<br />
daaaxlova. es aris<br />
wingadadgmuli nabiji uflebrivi<br />
TvalsazrisiT. adamians imis Sesa-<br />
Zleblobas aZlevs, rom bolomde<br />
SeinarCunos Tavisi uflebebi da<br />
SeizRudos misi uflebebi iq, sadac<br />
dasabuTebulia, rom am adamians<br />
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Temaa, ramdenad praqtikaSi xorcieldeba<br />
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_ mas unda hqondes Sesa-<br />
Zlebloba, Tavisi mdgomareoba<br />
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am TvalsazrisiT mas<br />
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es Zalian cinikuricaa,<br />
risi arCevani aqvs avadmyofs? es<br />
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unda wavides adamiani. ar aris amis<br />
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ise umklavdeba problemebs. realurad, gvaqvs<br />
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da sistemis miRma rCebian msubuqi fsiqikuri<br />
problemebis mqone adamianebi, romelTa<br />
identificirebac ar xdeba. veravin getyviT,<br />
ramdeni itanjeba am problemebiT~<br />
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li?<br />
_ Temze dafuZnebuli momsaxureba<br />
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da reabilitaciis Sesa-<br />
Zlebloba bunebriv sacxovrebel<br />
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rom ukve ramdenime welia, mobiluri<br />
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da maTTan fsiqologi msubuq<br />
doneze muSaobs. raime servisis<br />
ararsebobas es bevrad sjobs.<br />
Cveni problema is aris, rom Cven-<br />
Tan arsebuli servisebi erTmaneT-<br />
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daxmarebas vaZlevT fragmentulad,<br />
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iqidan gamomdinare, rom mas am<br />
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mkurnalobis efeqtianoba mcirdeba,<br />
bolos srulyofil Sedegsac<br />
ver viRebT.<br />
yvelaze efeqtiani mkurnaloba<br />
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ufaso medikamentebi gvaqvs mZime<br />
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es Zalian kargia, savaldebulocaa,<br />
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Sedegad, mas fsiqologiuri da<br />
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es ar aris martivi procesi. amas<br />
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bma sociumTan, rasac xSirad socialuri<br />
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adamianebisTvis es aris adgili<br />
sazogadoebaSi da samuSao,<br />
rasac is asrulebs. TviTSefasebisTvis<br />
aucilebelia dasaqmeba. Cven<br />
es fragmentebi gvWirdeba.<br />
Tamar maxaraZe<br />
`Cvens qveyanaSi jer kidev bevri stigma da barieria, rac mZimed isaxeba<br />
adamianis yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi. ras niSnavs, TviTon gadawyvitos? - mas<br />
unda hqondes SesaZlebloba, Tavisi mdgomareoba gaiumjobesos mkurnalobiT,<br />
reabilitaciiT. am TvalsazrisiT mas didi arCevani ar gaaCnia. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, es Zalian cinikuricaa, risi arCevani aqvs avadmyofs? es<br />
kanoni Teoriulad gveubneba, rom ar SeiZleba diskriminacia. gvaswavlis,<br />
ra da rogor unda keTdebodes, Tumca realoba Zalian daSorebulia<br />
imisgan, rac zogadad kanonmdeblobaSi weria~<br />
gvaqvs dRis centrebi. admianebi<br />
aq modian, saubroben, centri<br />
maT gansxvavebuli xarisxis servisebs<br />
sTavazobs. ukeTes SemTxveva-<br />
Si, beneficiarebs aqvT kveba, urTierToba,<br />
saqmianobis saSualeba. es<br />
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eseni arian zrdasruli adamianebi<br />
da maT srulfasovani arsebobis-<br />
Tvis sWirdebaT samsaxuri, anazRaureba.<br />
ar unda CavTvaloT, rom es<br />
admainebi gansxvavebuli cxovrebiT<br />
unda cxovrobdnen. isini unda<br />
gadavidnen iseT samuSao adgilebze,<br />
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amisTvis aravis scxela.<br />
iman unda imuSaos, visac survili<br />
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isini im realobasTan daaxlovdebian,<br />
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Tundac es SeiZleba iyos daculi<br />
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SesaZleblobebis realizebas<br />
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aucilebelia.<br />
_ bolo wlebSi gan-<br />
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obaSi?<br />
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aqedan gamomdinare, Tanxa TiTqos<br />
izrdeba, magram amindi ar icvleba.<br />
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es am adamianebSi mdgomareobas ar<br />
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dRes ki realurad es safrTxe<br />
dgas.<br />
Tu paralelurad ar gaCnda<br />
servisebi, romlebic am adamianebs<br />
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Si skolaSi maT gadayvanas Seuwyobs<br />
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_ problemaa aseve isic, rom<br />
hospitalis momsaxurebaze danax-<br />
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Zleba amis dabalanseba?<br />
_ idealur SemTxvevaSi mTeli<br />
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naklebi dro gaataros klini-<br />
`saqarTveloSi fsiqikuri da qceviTi aSlilobebis wili<br />
daavadebaTa gavrcelebis struqturaSi 2,5%-s Seadgens da mzardi<br />
tendenciiT xasiaTdeba. 2013 wels fsiqikuri aSlilobebis<br />
prevalentobis maCvenebeli 100.000 mosaxleze Seadgenda 1536-s,<br />
xolo incidentobis maCvenebeli - 167.8-s, rac sakmaod didi<br />
maCvenebelia da, amavdroulad, - arasrulic. saqarTveloSi ar<br />
arsebobs zusti statistika im raodenobis dasadgenad, Tu ramden<br />
adamians awuxebs fsiqikuri problemebi da ramdeni adamiani<br />
itanjeba fsiqikuri daavadebebiT~<br />
kaSi, amitom rac SeiZleba mravalferovani<br />
hospitalgare momsaxurebebi<br />
unda iyos. swori aqcenti<br />
aris hospitalgare momsaxurebis<br />
ganviTareba, prevenciuli RonisZiebebis<br />
gatareba. Tumca CvenTan sahospitalo<br />
momsaxurebaze daxarjuli<br />
Tanxebi bevrad meti iyo<br />
yovelTvis, vidre gare servisebze.<br />
es nel-nela balansdeba.<br />
wlebis dinamika aCvenebs, rom<br />
hospitalgare momsaxurebaze daxarjuli<br />
Tanxa izrdeba, rac kargia,<br />
Tumca dRevandeli realoba<br />
mainc igive rCeba. albaT ufro gviadvildeba<br />
problemebis mqone<br />
adamianebis hospitalSi gamomwyvdeva<br />
da iq mkurnaloba, vidre hospitalgare<br />
servisebis ganviTareba.<br />
es arc aris advili saqme. amas<br />
sWirdeba fuli, kompetenturi adamianebi,<br />
samagisod ki resursi ar<br />
gagvaCnia.<br />
mwvave recidivebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
aucilebelia 24-saaTiani mzrunvelobis<br />
gamcemi klinikebis arseboba,<br />
magram mizani is aris, rom<br />
hospitaluri momsaxurebis Semdeg,<br />
roca adamiani wonasworobis<br />
mdgomareobas ubrundeba, mas hospitalidan<br />
gamosvlis merec unda<br />
daxvdes is momsaxureba, romelic<br />
am mdgomareobas SeunarCunebs da<br />
gauumjobesebs.<br />
_ wina wlebSi mwvave SemTxveve-<br />
bis stacionaruli momsaxurebis<br />
dafinansebis Semcirebis gamo<br />
mravalprofilian kerZo saavadmy-<br />
ofoebSi gauqmda fsiqiatriuli<br />
ganyofilebebi. ra problemebs<br />
iwvevs es? ras fiqrobT amasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ roca es ganyofilebebi gaixsna,<br />
miznad isaxavda humanur midgomas,<br />
CvenSi gavrcelebuli Sexeduleba<br />
sagiJeTebze unda dagveviwyebina.<br />
adamianebs, romlebsac fsiqikuri<br />
problemebi aqvT, maT Sei-<br />
Zleba imave garemoSi movemsaxuroT,<br />
sadac janmrTelobis problemebis<br />
mqone sxva adamianebs mkurnaloben,<br />
magaliTad: gulis, RviZlis<br />
an sxva. es midgoma swori iyo,<br />
Tumca didad ar gaamarTla.<br />
es ar aris iafi sfero, samedicino<br />
momsaxurebisTvis gaweuli<br />
xarjebi didia, magram aris xarjebi,<br />
rac saxelmwifom aucileblad<br />
unda gawios.<br />
swori menejmenti imas niSnavs,<br />
rom mcire biujetis pirobebSi saxelmwifom<br />
yvelaze efeqtiani gza<br />
moZebnos momsaxurebis Serwymisa<br />
da arsebuli servisebis ganviTarebisTvis.<br />
samwuxarod, amis magaliTi naklebia.<br />
fuli ixarjeba, mdgomareoba<br />
ar icvleba. ekonomias vakeTebT<br />
iq, sadac ar unda gakeTdes,<br />
Cvens moqalaqeebze zrunva ki saxelmwifos<br />
valia.<br />
es problema yvela qveyanaSia,<br />
xolo saxelmwifo valdebulia,<br />
misi moqalaqe im problemebis pirispir<br />
ar datovos, romelsac marto<br />
ver gaumklavdeba.<br />
sadac fuli dasaxarjia, unda<br />
daixarjos. efeqtianad amis gadawyveta<br />
ki xedvis SecvliT aris SesaZlebeli<br />
_ swori midgoma yovelTvis<br />
ganapirobebs xarjvis efeqtianobasac.<br />
dRes Tanxac ixarjeba, raRac<br />
mciredic icvleba sasikeTod, magram<br />
saerTo amindi ar icvleba,<br />
rac yvelaze samwuxaroa.<br />
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walenjixaSi maRali Zabvis<br />
eleqtrogadamcemi xazis mSeneblobas adgilobrivebi isev<br />
aprotesteben. sofel Wales mosaxleoba janmrTelobisa da<br />
sicocxlis gamo SiSobs da proeqtis Secvlas an gadasaxleb-<br />
isTvis Sesabamis kompensacias iTxovs.<br />
adgilobrivebis ganmarte-<br />
biT, samxaraulis eqspertizis<br />
biuros daskvnis Tanaxmad, ma-<br />
Rali Zabvis 500-kilovatiani<br />
xazis gayvana sacxovrebeli<br />
saxlebis siaxloves mosaxleobis<br />
sicocxlesa da janmrTe-<br />
lobas safrTxes uqmnis.<br />
sofelSi acxadeben, rom en-<br />
ergokompaniasa da adgilobriv<br />
xelisuflebaSi proeqtis Secvlas<br />
dahpirdnen, Tumca danapirebi<br />
ar Seasrules. walenjixis<br />
municipalitetSi ki ganmartes,<br />
rom mosaxleobis nawilma<br />
saxlebis Tavze eleqtrogadamcemi<br />
xazebis gayvanis sanacvlod<br />
garkveuli kompensa-<br />
cia aiRo.<br />
am Temaze „qronika+~ walen-<br />
jixis municipalitetis sofel<br />
WaleSi mcxovreb lika aqubar-<br />
dias esaubreba:<br />
_ mSenebare eleqtrogadamcemi<br />
xazebis qveS xuTi ojaxi movyeviT.<br />
Tavdapirvelad, auditi<br />
gamogzavnes, aRwera Caatares,<br />
gviTxres, rom es saxlebi Zviri<br />
gvijdeba da amitom xazi gadavwieTo.<br />
sad gadawieTo? rom vki-<br />
TxeT, aRmoCnda, rom xazi saxuravidan<br />
Camoitanes da, samagierod,<br />
ezoze gadagvitares,<br />
ufro sworad, gvitareben.<br />
amiT, faqtobrivad, mTeli<br />
Cveni ezo miaqvT, sadac erT<br />
sivrceSi gvaqvs sayane nakveTi,<br />
Txilis plantacia, saSeSe nakve-<br />
Ti da saxlic.<br />
mere sasamarTlo procesi<br />
iyo, sadac eqspertebic dakiTxes.<br />
samxaraulis eqspertebma ioseb<br />
baldaZem da gurgen rosna-<br />
Zem Tqves, rom es xazi janmr-<br />
TelobisTvis sazianoa. mosamarTles<br />
isic daudastures, rom<br />
amis qveS sakvebi mcenareebis<br />
moyvana, aseve sadenebis qveS<br />
cxovreba ar SeiZlebao. Tan isic<br />
Tqves, rom aRniSnuli energokompaniis<br />
nebarTvis gareSe<br />
adamianebi (Cven) xes ver dargaven<br />
da miwasac ver gayidiano.<br />
roca mosamarTlem mimarTa,<br />
_ eseni Tqveni nebarTvis gareSe<br />
saxlis gayidvas an xis dargvas<br />
Tu SeZlebeno? maTma advokatma<br />
upasuxa, _ ara, eseni Cveni nebarTvis<br />
gareSe amas ver gaakeTebeno.<br />
amis Semdeg mosamarTlem<br />
procesi isev or dReSi CaniSna<br />
da gamogvicxada, rom am eleqtrogadamcemi<br />
xaziT arc saku-<br />
Trebis ufleba ilaxeba da arc<br />
saziano ariso. realurad, ori<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi policiis<br />
wnexis qveSac viyaviT. anu policiis<br />
ZaliT aaSenes Cveni ezos<br />
34<br />
gela mamulaSvili<br />
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ukan koSki, rogorc amas uwodeben.<br />
Tavidan am proeqts „energotransi”<br />
axorcielebda, mere ukve<br />
saCivari „eleqtrosistemis”<br />
saxeliT Seitanes. gveubnebian,<br />
rom „energotransi” „eleqtrosistemis”<br />
Svilobili kompania<br />
aris.<br />
mTlianobaSi, 12 800 kvadratuli<br />
metri nakveTidan 9 545<br />
kva.m miwis nakveTi wagvarTves.<br />
faqtobrivad, araferi aRar<br />
gvrCeba, mxolod saxli da 3<br />
aTasze cota meti kv.m, rasac<br />
mosamarTlec udasturebs.<br />
am fonze, samarTali versad<br />
vipoveT. mTeli saministroebi<br />
daviareT, premiersac SevxvdiT,<br />
romelmac am sakiTxze muSaoba<br />
energetikis ministrs daavala.<br />
ministrma es realoba isev Tavis<br />
sasargeblod moqarga da werili<br />
ise gaugzavna, TiTqos<br />
adgilze yvelaferi kargad iyo.<br />
mere es werili Cvenc gadmogvigzavnes.<br />
_ romel ministrzea sa-<br />
ubari?<br />
_ premier-minitrs eloSvil-<br />
Tan erTad SevxvdiT. ise, problema<br />
kalaZis ministrobis droidan<br />
momdinareobs.<br />
_ xazis damontaJebis mxriv<br />
adgilze ra mdgomareobaa?<br />
_ rogorc giTxariT, koSki<br />
Cvens ezoSi unda CaedgaT da<br />
ukana mxares gaakeTes, magram<br />
isic Cveni nakveTia, romelic ar<br />
dagviregistrires. mokled, ko-<br />
Ski Robis gaRma aaSenes da axla<br />
eleqtrosadenebis gayvanis<br />
procesi mimdinareobs.<br />
mosamarTlem sarCelis dauyovneblivi<br />
uzrunvelyofa 16-<br />
isTvis CaniSna, ra Tqma unda,<br />
mosamarTle kompanias amasac<br />
daukmayofilebs. aq mosamarTlec<br />
mxarea da samarTali<br />
versad vipoveT. realurad, am<br />
xuT ojaxs gvagdeben.<br />
kompaniis warmomadgeneli<br />
Teimuraz Wanturia sul gvemuqreba,<br />
Tu Wkvianad ar iqnebiT,<br />
saerTod saxl-kars dagingrevT<br />
da aqedan ise gagyriT, TeTrsac<br />
ar mogcemTo.<br />
_ masTan sad isaubreT?<br />
_ CvenTan, sul policiasTan<br />
erTad modioda, rodesac im<br />
koSkis mSeneblobis uflebas ar<br />
vaZlevdiT. ori weli am wnexis<br />
qveS gavatareT. xmas amoviRebdiT,<br />
policia dagveseoda da<br />
enas Cagvagdebinebdnen.<br />
_ xazi soflis xuTi ojaxis<br />
karmidamoze gaivlis?<br />
_ diax, es aris cxra orwvera,<br />
anu Tvrameti eleqtrosadeni,<br />
500-kilovoltiani, romelsac,<br />
`Wanturia imasac meubneba, rom Weqa-quxilis<br />
dros rkinas ar SeexoTo. maSin vuTxari, -<br />
sayofacxovrebo sagnebs, davuSvaT, dana-<br />
Cangals mainc xom unda SevexoT-meTqi? - es<br />
Wama raRa Weqa-quxilis dros mogindebaTo, -<br />
mipasuxa. maTi meore warmomadgeneli malxaz<br />
javaxaZe iyo, - ori saxli gqonia, raRa iq<br />
cxovrob, ager, patara saxlSi icxovreo, - ase<br />
dagvcinian da arian TavianTTvis~<br />
sofel Wales mosaxleoba<br />
eleqtrogadamcemi xazis<br />
mSeneblobas<br />
isev aprotestebs<br />
`sofelSi rom miwas<br />
wagarTmeven, amis mere<br />
glexma riT unda iarsebos?~<br />
rogorc TviTon amboben, ormagi<br />
datvirTva eqneba, amitom<br />
1000 kilovoltis qveS cxovreba<br />
gviwevs.<br />
mosamarTle kidev gveubneba,<br />
rom am mSeneblobiT sakuTrebis<br />
ufleba ar irRvevao. bodiSi<br />
da xalxi amaT fexebze kidiaT.<br />
es Wanturia imasac meubneba,<br />
rom Weqa-quxilis dros rkinas<br />
ar SeexoTo. maSin vuTxari, _<br />
sayofacxovrebo sagnebs, davuSvaT,<br />
dana-Cangals mainc xom<br />
unda SevexoT-meTqi?<br />
_ es Wama raRa Weqa-quxilis<br />
dros mogindebaTo, _ mipasuxa.<br />
maTi meore warmomadgeneli<br />
malxaz javaxaZe iyo, _ ori saxli<br />
gqonia, raRa iq cxovrob,<br />
ager, patara saxlSi icxovreo,<br />
_ ase dagvcinian da arian TavianTTvis.<br />
_ fiqrobT, rom am saxlebSi<br />
cxovreba SeuZlebeli gaxdeba?<br />
_ diax, gveubnebian, saxls<br />
gitovebTo, magram am pirobeb-<br />
Si arseboba, ubralod, SeuZlebeli<br />
gaxdeba. kompaniis warmomadgenlebi<br />
TviTonve gveubnebian,<br />
rom marto amis xmas ver<br />
gauZlebT, aqedan TviTonve gaiqceviTo.<br />
rogorc mogaxseneT,<br />
samxaraulis eqspertebmac daadastures,<br />
rom es yvelaferi<br />
janmrTelobisTvis sazianoa.<br />
_ ra Sedegebs gamoiwvevs?<br />
_ imis qveS arc Txili da saerTod<br />
araferi gaixarebs da<br />
Tu gaixarebs, mere es sakvebadac<br />
aRar gamodgeba, rac eqspertebmac<br />
daadastures. amaze<br />
daskvna gvaqvs, sadac pirdapir<br />
weria, rom mis qves arc xem unda<br />
gaixaros, arc Tivis zvinis gakeTeba<br />
SeiZleba, arc wylis moyvana<br />
da araferi.<br />
sofelSi rom miwas wagarTmeven,<br />
amis mere glexma riT un-<br />
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da iarsebos?<br />
aq erTma mepatronem saxli<br />
sapatriarqos aCuqa. mere sapatriarqom<br />
es Sesyiduli saxli<br />
isev amaT mihyida. iq monasteri<br />
unda aSenebuliyo da berTa sacxovrisi<br />
yofiliyo, magram sapatriarqom<br />
es ar gaakeTa, adgnen<br />
da saxli am „energotranss”<br />
mihyides. es rom ar gaekeTebinaT,<br />
dRes am mdgomareobaSi ar<br />
viqnebodiT. amaze satelevizio<br />
reportaJic momzadda.<br />
_ am etapze sasamarTloSi<br />
ras iTxovT?<br />
_ Tu Cvenze xazi gahyavT, im<br />
miwis qveS mainc ver vimuSaveb<br />
da verafers moviyvan. maSin ke-<br />
Tili inebon da bolomde Seisyidon<br />
es miwa. TviTon maTma<br />
advokatma Tqva, rom Cemi nebar-<br />
Tvis gareSe saxls ver gayidi-<br />
To. iqneb, iseTi avadmyofoba<br />
damemarTos, Tanxebi ar meyos<br />
da saxlis gayidva damWirdes?<br />
maSin ra unda vqna, Tavs rogor<br />
vuSvelo? saxls ver gavyidi,<br />
radgan servitutiT datvirTuli<br />
iqneba.<br />
mere aTasi kilovoltis qveS<br />
saxls romeli WkuaTmyofeli<br />
iyidis?<br />
_ gamosavali mTlianad Se-<br />
syidvaa?<br />
_ diax, barem mTlianad Seisyidon<br />
da Cven arsebobis saSualeba<br />
dagvitovon. Tu amas gaakeTeben,<br />
Cven usafrTxo adgilze<br />
gasaqcevi saSualeba mainc<br />
gveqneba. aq isedac ver vicxovrebT,<br />
elementarulad, xmaurs<br />
ver gavuZlebT. aseTi xuTaskilovoltiani<br />
xazi Cven gverdiT,<br />
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`wlebis ganmavlobaSi saeqsperto-geologiur<br />
daskvnas viTxovdiT, rom es yvelaferi<br />
janmrTelobisTvis mavne ar iqneboda. ar<br />
mouciaT. am dros, Cven gverdiTa sofel<br />
muJavaSi nomer mexuTe anZaa, sadac damewyril<br />
adgilze sami saZirkveli aaSenes. adgilze<br />
mewyeri Camowva, ris damadasturebeli<br />
fotomasalac arsebobs. mere aiRes da es<br />
mSenebloba sxvagan gadaitanes, anu<br />
saqanelasaviT daaTreven aRniSnul anZebs.<br />
sadac moeprianebaT, iq dgamen. mokled, es<br />
mSenebloba mTeli rigi darRvevebiT<br />
mimdinareobs, radgan mxolod jibis<br />
gasqelebaze arian gadarTulebi.<br />
Cveni ezos ukan rom aaSenes, isic<br />
korozirebuli miwaa. mewyeri rom Camowves,<br />
anZac daingreva da saxlic Tavze dagveqceva~<br />
sofel muJavaSi gadis, wvimian<br />
amindSi qolgiT rom gaxvide,<br />
mas garTmevs, jer ramxela<br />
eleqtromagnituria velia mis<br />
qveS.<br />
Tu es saqme qveynisTvis<br />
strategiulia da raRacas niSnavs,<br />
ki batono, magram es yvelaferi<br />
Cemi sicocxlis xarjze<br />
unda gakeTdes? Cvenc xom am<br />
qveynis Svilebi varT, aseTi ra<br />
davaSaveT? gamodis, rom „energotransis”<br />
direqtoris moadgile<br />
axalaiam Cven xarjze jibe<br />
unda gaisqelos, radgan, Cveni<br />
informaciiT, es saqme man gaakeTa.<br />
amas plus, samuSaoebs, koSkebis<br />
aSenebas Turquli kompania<br />
awarmoebda. isini ezoSi gveWrebodnen,<br />
ar vuSvebdiT da gvivardebodnen,<br />
gvaSinebdnen.<br />
_ axla vis mimarTavT?<br />
_ isev premier-ministrs mivmarTavT,<br />
iqneb, man mainc gamoiCinos<br />
gulisxmiereba. saxelmwifos<br />
xels ar vuSliT, magram<br />
Cvens sicoxlesa da janmrTelobazec<br />
xom unda izrunon? aq<br />
danarCeni ojaxebic igive poziciaze<br />
arian. _ fexebze gvkidia,<br />
Tqven rasac fiqrobT, xelisuflebaSi<br />
gvyavs xalxi, vinc lobirebas<br />
gviwevs da ar gveSenia,<br />
Tu Cumad ar iqnebiT, ise gagagdebT<br />
quCaSi, erT TeTrsac ar<br />
mogcemTo! _ amas gveubnebian.<br />
mosamarTle maT xelSia, policiac.<br />
patara kacsa did kacTan,<br />
rodis gasvlia marTalio, _<br />
asea Cveni saqme.<br />
mTeli sofeli mxars gviWers,<br />
ramdenime aqcia iyo, xalxi<br />
gamovida, magram vin ekiTxeba?<br />
axla saapelacio saCivris<br />
Setanas vapirebT. albaT, iqac<br />
miuwvdebaT xeli, mere uzenaesi<br />
modis da strasburgis sasamarTlo.<br />
bolomde vibrZolebT<br />
da amas axalaia-Wanturias ar<br />
davuTmobT.<br />
aseve, wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
saeqsperto-geologiur daskvnas<br />
viTxovdiT, rom es yvelaferi<br />
janmrTelobisTvis mavne ar<br />
iqneboda. ar mouciaT. am dros,<br />
Cven gverdiTa sofel muJavaSi<br />
nomer mexuTe anZaa, sadac damewyril<br />
adgilze sami saZirkveli<br />
aaSenes. adgilze mewyeri Camowva,<br />
ris damadasturebeli<br />
fotomasalac arsebobs. mere<br />
aiRes da es mSenebloba sxvagan<br />
gadaitanes, anu saqanelasaviT<br />
daaTreven aRniSnul anZebs. sadac<br />
moeprianebaT, iq dgamen.<br />
mokled, es mSenebloba mTeli<br />
rigi darRvevebiT mimdinareobs,<br />
radgan mxolod jibis gasqelebaze<br />
arian gadarTulebi.<br />
Cveni ezos ukan rom aaSenes,<br />
isic korozirebuli miwaa. mewyeri<br />
rom Camowves, anZac daingreva<br />
da saxlic Tavze dagveqceva.<br />
ese ambavi meriis, opoziciisa da miwisqveSa quTaisis Sesaxeb<br />
me-17 gverdidan<br />
rac ufro didi iqneba miwa, fasic ufro<br />
gaizrdeba da biznesi miwas ar iyidis. es<br />
daazaralebs rogorc bizness, ise qalaqis<br />
biujets”, _ ganacxada uklebam.<br />
deputatis aseT pozicias kategoriulad<br />
ar iziarebs quTaisis meriis ekonomikis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi, giorgi giorgobiani da<br />
acxadebs, rom meria gegmis Sesrulebis<br />
kuTxiT problemas ver xedavs.<br />
„miwaze moTxovna maRalia. yoveldRiurad<br />
10-15 gancxadeba Semodis miwis yidvaze.<br />
Cven daskvna gavakeTeT moTxovnisa da<br />
auqcionis Sesabamisad, sadac yvela zonaSi<br />
arsebul fasze metad gaiyida miwa. quTaisis<br />
meria pasuxismgeblobas iRebs, rom arsebuli<br />
fasebiT biznesi da biujeti ar dazaraldeba”,<br />
_ acxadebs ekonomikis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi.<br />
iareT fexiT _ opoziciis rCeva xelisu-<br />
flebas<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba” quTaisis xelisuflebas<br />
Seqmnil mZime socialur-ekonomikur<br />
fons axsenebs da maT kuTvnilebaSi arsebuli<br />
saavtomobilo parkis gayidvas ur-<br />
Cevs, samsaxurSi misasvlelad ki sakuTari<br />
avtomobilebis gamoyenebas, fexiT gadadgilebas<br />
an sazogadoebrivi transportiT<br />
sargeblobas mouwodebs. aseTi gancxadebis<br />
gakeTeba opoziciurma partiam mas Semdeg<br />
gadawyvita, rac meriis balansze ricxuli<br />
avtoparkis teqnikuri momsaxurebisa da sawvavis<br />
xarjebi daTvala. sakrebulos deputat<br />
gia uklebas gancxadebiT, maTi SeTavazebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebis SemTxvevaSi biujeti,<br />
wliurad, 448 000 laris ekonomias gaakeTebs,<br />
romlis gamoyenebac socialurad daucvelebis<br />
dasaxmareblad iqneba SesaZlebeli.<br />
deputatis ganmartebiT, meriis avtoparki<br />
61 avtomobilisgan Sedgeba, saidanac 40<br />
xelSekrulebiT aris ayvanili, 21 ki, romlebic<br />
meriis balanszea, ufunqciodaa da ar<br />
gadaadgildeba.<br />
imas, rom balansze ricxuli avtomobilebi<br />
gamousadegaria, meriaSi adastureben,<br />
magram aqve miuTiTeben, rom isini swored<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” mmarTvelobis<br />
dros SeiZines. meriaSi arc imas uaryofen,<br />
rom satransporto saSualebebis Senaxva marTlac<br />
Zviri jdeba, Tumca ganmartaven,<br />
rom xarjebi dReisTvis mniSvnelovnad aris<br />
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Semcirebuli.<br />
„gasul wlebSi avtomobilebis SekeTebasa<br />
da momsaxurebaze 64 000 lari ixarjeboda,<br />
Cveni administraciis pirobebSi xarji<br />
24 000 lari gaxda. im avtomobilebs,<br />
romelTa SekeTebac Zviri jdeba, meria aRar<br />
gaaremontebs da gayidis”, _ acxadeben qalaqis<br />
TviTmmarTvelobaSi.<br />
Jurnalistebis kiTxvas, Tu ratom ar<br />
gaiyida maTi mmarTvelobis dros avtomobilebi,<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” wevrma gia<br />
uklebam upasuxa, rom maSin, roca quTaiss<br />
isini marTavdnen, qalaqSi investiciebi Semoedineboda<br />
da ekonomikuradac dRes arsebuli<br />
mZime situaciisgan gansxvavebuli<br />
mdgomareoba iyo.<br />
rogorc Cans, qalaqis amJamindeli xelisufleba<br />
ar apirebs opoziciis rCevis ga-<br />
Tvaliswinebas da, Sesabamisad, quTaislebic<br />
maRalCinosnebs verc sazogadoebriv transportSi<br />
mokalaTebulebs, verc velosipedebze<br />
amxedrebuls da verc saxlidan samsaxurebamde<br />
fexiT moseirneebs dainaxaven.<br />
quTaisis biujetma<br />
cvlileba ganicada<br />
quTaisis biujeti morigi Casworebis<br />
winaSe aRmoCnda. gasul kviras dokumentSi<br />
cvlileba 379 600 lariT ganisazRvra, saidanac<br />
umetesi nawili _ 311 aTasi _ dasrulebuli<br />
proeqtebis angariSsworebas moxmardeba.<br />
es ukve meore cvlilebaa, romelic xelisuflebam<br />
qalaqis mTavar safinanso dokumentSi<br />
ganaxorciela da romlis Sesaxebac<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba”, jer kidev,<br />
biujetis miRebis dros winaswarmetyvelebda.<br />
sakrebulos fraqcia „nacionaluri mo-<br />
Zraobis” Tavmjdomare giga SuSanias ainteresebs,<br />
SeZlebs Tu ara xelisufleba<br />
wlis bolomde erTi iseTi sxdomis Catarebas,<br />
romlis dRis wesrigSic sabiujeto cvlilebaze<br />
sakiTxi ar iqneba Setanili.<br />
„meria yovel sxdomaze biujetis muxlebs<br />
Soris Tanxebis gadanawilebas mimar-<br />
Tavs. es imas niSnavs, rom biujeti, Tavis<br />
droze, sworad ar daigegma, ris gamoc yovel<br />
sxdomaze uwevs axali cvlilebebis Setana.<br />
samwuxarod, es ar aris bolo cvlileba.<br />
momdevno sxdomazec meria iZulebuli<br />
iqneba, cvlilebebi warmoadginos”, _ acxadebs<br />
giga SuSania, romlis pozicias myarad<br />
iziarebs misive Tanapartieli gia ukleba.<br />
am ukanasknelma sakrebulos bolo sxdomaze<br />
da sabiujeto cvlilebis ganxilvis procesSi<br />
qalaqis meris ardaswrebac gaaprotesta.<br />
„sad aris, sad imaleba, bolos da bolos,<br />
qalaqis meri?! arsebobs Tu ara es kaci<br />
saerTod?! yovel sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />
rogor aqvs mniSvnelovani Sexvedra?!” _ ganacxada<br />
deputatma, romelmac pasuxad vicemer<br />
iuza ugulavas ganmartebac miiRo. ugulavas<br />
TqmiT, qalaqis meris dRis wesrigSi<br />
Sexvedrebis grafikis opoziciasTan SeTanxmeba<br />
ar Sedis.<br />
quTaisis 54 milionin biujetSi pirveli<br />
Sesworeba ianvarSi Sevida, roca mas regionuli<br />
ganviTarebis fondidan gamoyofili<br />
Tanxa daemata. arsebuli monacemebiT qalaqis<br />
biujeti 62 milions Seadgens.<br />
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`Savdia~ _ brendi da firosmani<br />
dRes bevrma icis, misi gvari ukve<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
brendis saxelad iqca da ufro<br />
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meti adamianic interesdeba misi<br />
dizainiT Seqmnili samosiTa Tu<br />
fexsacmliT. mis produqcias firosmanis motivebiTa da gamor-<br />
Ceuli stiliT icnobT. 27 wlis elene Savdia warmoSobiT samegre-<br />
lodanaa, Tumca daibada da gaizarda TbilisSi, aqve daamTavra<br />
skolac da Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetic. Semdeg iyo<br />
naxevarwliani kursebi diuseldorfSi Kunstakademie Düsseldorf-Si.<br />
raoden gasakviric unda iyos,<br />
ganaTlebiT iuristia da ara dizaineri,<br />
Tumca sakuTari profesiiT<br />
arasdros umuSavia, am etapze ki<br />
sruliadaa CarTuli sakuTari<br />
brendis ganviTarebis saqmeSi.<br />
yvelaferi maSin daiwyo, roca<br />
erT dResac gadawyvita, rom „Savdia”<br />
Seeqmna, Tavidan am saqmeSi mxolod<br />
finansur dainteresebas xedavda.<br />
axla ukve sakmaod kargi da<br />
Semdgari gundi hyavs. pirveli nabijebis<br />
gadadgma kargad ar axsovs,<br />
magram Zalian Zneli rom gaxldaT,<br />
amas gulaxdilad ambobs, dazustebiT<br />
imasac ver ityvis, SeZlebda<br />
`saqmeSi yvelaze<br />
mniSvnelovania<br />
dro, romelsac<br />
unda gaaswro da<br />
araviTar SemTxvevaSi<br />
CamorCe ukan!~<br />
is, rasac verasodes verasgziT veravin<br />
waarTmevs!<br />
axla cxovrebis im etapzea, roca<br />
sakuTari Tavic ipova, aqvs sayvareli<br />
saqme, romelic dRiTi dRe<br />
viTardeba, hyavs sayvareli adamiani,<br />
ori Svili, deda da da, romlebic<br />
Zalian exmarebian _ es SesaniSnavia,<br />
Tumca mainc aris sayvareli<br />
Tu ara imaves xelaxla.<br />
kiTxvaze, Tu rodidan daiwyo<br />
sakuTari brendis Seqmna, pasuxobs:<br />
„realurad, „Savdia” TavisiT<br />
Seiqmna, ufro sworad, xlxma Seqmna(!),<br />
me ki kargad davamuSave da<br />
rogorc brendi, ise warmovadgine.<br />
ori wlis win yvelaferi nulidan<br />
daiwyo ise, rom araviTari Tanxa ar<br />
Camidevs am saqmeSi, mxolod ori<br />
sakeravi manqana mqonda ganvadebiT<br />
gamotanili da dRes ukve ori ma-<br />
Razia maqvs „galerea Tbilissa” da<br />
baTumi molSi _ „qarTveli dizainerebis<br />
kuTxeSi”, aseve, atelie, sadac<br />
individualur SekveTebs viRebT<br />
da Zalian bednieri var, roca<br />
sxva adamianebs bedniersa da kmayofils<br />
vxedav Cems samosSi. rac<br />
Seexeba firosmanis motivebs Cems<br />
koleqciaSi, amas Tavisi mizani da<br />
mizezi aqvs: firosmanis istoria,<br />
ratomRac, Cemsas magonebs, Tanac<br />
msoflioSi cnobili qarTveli mxatvaria,<br />
ideac amitom gaCnda”.<br />
ambobs, rom qarTul bazarze<br />
konkurencia sakmaod didia, Tumca<br />
mas sakuTari momxmarebeli<br />
hyavs da garkveuli niSa uWiravs.<br />
misi azriT, mTavaria ara is, rom<br />
raime Seqmna, aramed is, rom Seqmnili<br />
SeinarCuno.<br />
mis namuSevrebs yvelaze obieqturad<br />
momxmarebeli afasebs, yvelaze<br />
did siamovnebas ki adamianebis<br />
gaxareba aniWebs, swored amitom<br />
aravisTvis arasdros araferi<br />
enaneba! ambobs, rom saqmeSi yvelaze<br />
mniSvnelovania dro, romelsac<br />
unda gaaswro da araviTar<br />
SemTxvevaSi ukan CamorCe!<br />
adamianSi yvelaze metad Sromismoyvareobas,<br />
gulwrfelobas afasebs,<br />
rasac, misi sityvebiT rom<br />
vTqvaT, adamianuroba hqvia.<br />
aRizianebs usamarTloba, roca<br />
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erTi da igive profesiis adamianebi<br />
usamarTlod, araobieqturad<br />
akritikeben erTmaneTis namuSevars,<br />
roca amboben, rom TviTon<br />
ukeT gaakeTebdnen raRacas da a. S.<br />
aseve, mZRolebis usamarTlo lan-<br />
ZRva-gineba sxva mZRolebis mimarT,<br />
am dros ki orives erTi da igive<br />
Secdoma mosdis.<br />
risi gaziarebac sxvisTvis enaneba,<br />
aris dro, amitom cneba „Tavisufali<br />
dro” misTvis, faqtobrivad,<br />
ar arsebobs.<br />
maqsimalistia, swored amitom<br />
yvelafris Sesruleba umaRles<br />
doneze uyvars da rac unda moxdes,<br />
yvelafers yovelTvis Taviseburad<br />
akeTebs:<br />
„mjobnis mjobi ar ileva, magram<br />
minda, rom pirveli viyo Cems saqme-<br />
Si da nel-nela miviwev Cemi miznisken”.<br />
yoveli axali gaTenebuli dRe<br />
axal perspeqtivas, axal ideebsa da<br />
gaZlierebul siyvaruls aZlevs.<br />
misabaZi magaliTi ar hyavs da sulac<br />
ar hgonia, rom vinmes unda mibaZos<br />
an romelime persona magaliTi<br />
iyos misTvis.<br />
kiTxvaze, Tu ra problemas xedavs<br />
im sferoSi, sadac moRvaweobs,<br />
Semdegnairad pasuxobs:<br />
„am sferoSi sakmaod didi da<br />
bevri problemaa, radgan adgilobrivi<br />
mommaragebeli bazari arasrulfasovania,<br />
anu arCevani ar<br />
aqvs SedarebiT didi zomis adamians,<br />
aseve, Seqmnili produqciis<br />
safaso politikac areulia<br />
_ erTi da igive qsoviliT<br />
Seqmnili produqti katastrofulad<br />
gansxvavebuli fasebiT<br />
iyideba sxvadasxva adgilebSi.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi ki, samwuxard,<br />
mxolod momxmarebeli<br />
zaraldeba. rac Seexeba misi<br />
mogvarebis gzebs, Tavisufali<br />
sabazro politikis pirobebSi<br />
es mougvarebelia, magram am<br />
yvelafers, saboloo jamSi,<br />
momxmarebeli TviTonve aregulirebs”.<br />
imis gamo, rom misi saqmianoba<br />
mudmivad muSaobas da aqtiurobas<br />
moiTxovs, elenes arc Tavisufali<br />
dro aqvs da bolo ori<br />
welia, arc dausvenia. swored amitom<br />
iqca misi saqme yoveldRiurobad<br />
da, faqtobrivad, yvelafrad!<br />
miuxedavad gare faqtorebisa, ambobs,<br />
rom sruliad Tavisufalia<br />
da metic, Tavisufleba _ es aris<br />
adamianis monatreba,<br />
es adamiani<br />
ki beboa.<br />
fiqrobs,<br />
rom yvela<br />
adamians<br />
raRac misia<br />
akisria,<br />
radgan<br />
ise, ubralod,<br />
araferi<br />
xdeba<br />
Cvens samyaroSi,<br />
maT Soris, Cveni<br />
dabadebac. ibrZvis<br />
momavlisTvis, warsulsa<br />
da sakuTar cxovrebaSi ki arafers<br />
Secvlida, radgan rac gaiara<br />
SecdomiTa Tu warmatebiT,<br />
saboloo jamSi, swored man Camoayaliba<br />
imad, rasac axla warmoadgens.<br />
ambobs, rom Cveni warumateblobebi<br />
da warmatebebi<br />
gvayalibeben im adamianebad, romlebic<br />
dRes realurad varT!<br />
misi cxovrebis azri dRes saku-<br />
Tari ojaxia.<br />
fiqrobs, rom roca adamiani<br />
Sromismoyvare da mondomebulia,<br />
yvelgan SeiZleba warmatebis miRweva,<br />
magram es mondomeba mxolod<br />
sityvebiT ar unda gamoixatebodes!<br />
sawyis etapze dRisa da Ramis<br />
gasworebas niSnavs. TavisiT araferi<br />
modis: „vusmen xalxs, yvelas<br />
raRacis gakeTeba unda, magram, saboloo<br />
jamSi, TavianTi miznisTvis<br />
aravin arafers akeTebs”.<br />
kiTxvaze, rom ara is, vinc axlaa,<br />
vin iqneboda? calsaxad pasuxobs,<br />
_ isev elene Savdia! romelsac misi<br />
megobari Semdegnairad axasiaTebs:<br />
adamiani, romelsac SegiZlia endo<br />
da imedi gqondes, adamiani, romelsac<br />
SeuZlia Zala, stimuli mogces<br />
da suli Cagberos!<br />
samomavlo gegma mamakacebis<br />
brendis Seqmnaa, romelic ukve nawilobriv<br />
Seqmnilia da gasayidadad<br />
gaSvebuli „galerea TbilisSi”.<br />
yvelaze xSirad Svilebze fiqrobs<br />
da sakuTari ojaxis imedi aqvs<br />
maTze.<br />
sakuTar cxovrebaze fiqrSi ki<br />
yvelaze did simSvides eklesiaSi<br />
poulobs. iq misvlas ukve iSviaTad<br />
axerxebs, xsnad ki sakuTar namusTan<br />
sufTad yofna da locva<br />
esaxeba.<br />
qarTveli warmatebuli dizaineri<br />
gvirCevs: „Caicvi qarTuli, moixmare<br />
qarTuli, qarTulia da kargia!<br />
Caicvi da atare „Savdia”.<br />
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qarTveli xelovania, romelic modelebs rZis aba-<br />
zanaSi uRebs fotoebs. saocaria teqnika da idea, romliTac<br />
igi msoflio 15 saukeTeso rZis abazanis fotoebSi Rirseul<br />
meore adgilze aRiares.<br />
misi fotoebi aerTianebs mcenareebs,<br />
rZesa da portrets.<br />
rogorc avtori ambobs, mcenareebi<br />
da maTTvis fotoebis gada-<br />
Reba bavSvobidan uyvarda. Semdeg<br />
ojaxis gadawyvetilebiT<br />
sxva sferoSi gaagrZela moRvaweoba,<br />
magram bolos mainc imas<br />
daubrunda, rac guliT undoda.<br />
yvelaferi ki, daaxloebiT, 2<br />
wlis winaT daiwyo, winsvlac<br />
bevri iyo da dabrkolebac, Tumca<br />
gvanca ar nebdeba da bevrjer<br />
dacemuli mainc Rirseulad<br />
wamodgomas axerxebs.<br />
am orma weliwadma bevri warmateba<br />
moutana, Vogue-s onlain<br />
JurnalSic ki ibeWdeboda misi<br />
fotoebi, yvelaferTan erTad<br />
uamravi sertifikati da diplomi<br />
aqvs miRebuli rogorc saqarTveloSi,<br />
aseve sazRvargareT.<br />
kiTxvaze, Tu ra iyo is sir-<br />
Tuleebi, rac gzad Sexvda, pasuxobs:<br />
„sirTule iyo im adamianebisgan<br />
zurgis Seqceva da talaxis<br />
srola, romlebisganac ar vimsaxurebdi,<br />
Tumca mivxvdi, rom<br />
amas ver gaveqcevi da Zlieri<br />
unda viyo! TiTqos imuniteti<br />
gamovimuSave”.<br />
gvancas yvelaze did siamovnebas<br />
fotosesiis dagegmvisa da<br />
gadaRebis procesi aniWebs da<br />
yvelaze Zvirfasi droc ki am<br />
saqmisTvis fotoebis damuSavebisa<br />
da axali ramis swavlis-<br />
Tvis ar enaneba.<br />
saqmeSi yvelaze did mniSvnelobas<br />
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da warmatebas aniWebs, adamianSi<br />
ki yvelaze Rirebulad<br />
gulwrfelobas miiCnevs. calsaxad<br />
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misabaZad miiCnevs yvela im<br />
adamians, vinc cxovrebiseuli<br />
sirTuleebi gadalaxa da profesionalad<br />
Sedga.<br />
fiqrobs, rom adamianebs TavianTi<br />
misia aqvT, misi ki is aris,<br />
rom warmatebuli fotografi<br />
iyos, romelic sazRvrebs<br />
gareT gaitans Tavis saxels.<br />
ibrZvis simSvidisTvis da<br />
cxovrobs imisTvis, rom saku-<br />
Tari kvali datovos am cxovrebaSi.<br />
kiTxvaze, Tu ras grZnobs,<br />
roca mnaxvelebs sakuTari TvaliT<br />
danaxul silamazes uziarebs,<br />
pasuxobs:<br />
„roca sakuTar namuSevarze<br />
erTi adamiani mainc mogwers,<br />
Tu ra lamazia es yvelaferi da<br />
dasafasebeli, am grZnobis gadmocema<br />
sityvebiT cota rTulia,<br />
es unda igrZno da swored<br />
amitom Rirs yvelafris keTeba<br />
bevrjer dacemis sanacvlod,<br />
Tumca is, risi gadaRebac siamovnebas<br />
maniWebs, samwuxarod,<br />
saqarTveloSi ganviTarebuli<br />
ar aris da minda, rom xelovnebas<br />
meti yuradReba mieqces,<br />
ganviTardes. es saqme ki CemTvis,<br />
faqtobrivad, yvelaferia.<br />
rZis abazanebis ideac iqidan<br />
movida, rom ubralod vifiqre,<br />
wiTelisa da TeTris kontrasti<br />
Zalian lamazi iqneboda, gadavwyvite,<br />
rZe Camesxa wylis nacvlad,<br />
ase ufro lamazi iqneboda,<br />
rac Seexeba mcenareebs,<br />
yvavilebisadmi siyvaruli bavSvobidanve<br />
momdevs”, _ ambobs<br />
gvanca, romelsac ukve ori welia,<br />
ar dausvenia da, faqtobrivad,<br />
Tavisufali dro ar hqonia,<br />
amitomac fiqrobs, rom maqsimalistia.<br />
am etapze ki kidev<br />
bevri aqvs saswavli da miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom xmamaRla ar aRiarebs<br />
sferoSi pirvelobas, mizandasaxulad<br />
pasuxobs, rom pirvelobisken<br />
namdvilad iswrafis.<br />
fiqrobs, rom saqarTvelo<br />
mxolod maSin afasebs adamians,<br />
roca igi sxva qveyanaSi gaxdeba<br />
warmatebuli, swored amitom<br />
ambobs, rom Tu mis SemTxveva-<br />
Sic ase moxda, mere ukve aRar<br />
miscems qarTvelebs imis uflebas,<br />
rom misiT iamayon, radgan<br />
mas axla sWirdeba gverdiT<br />
dgoma(!) da ara maSin, roca sxvagan<br />
ukve dafasebuli iqneba(!)!<br />
cxovrobs sakuTari principebiT,<br />
romlebsac raime sargeblis<br />
miRebis sanacvlod arasdros<br />
uRalatebs. momavlis gegma<br />
ki im simSvidis mopovebasa da<br />
im saqmis keTebas ukavSirdeba,<br />
romelic ase Zalian uyvars. fiqrobs<br />
gamudmebiT da zustad<br />
icis, rom cxovrebaSi mxolod<br />
sakuTari Tavis imedi aqvs.<br />
Sansi rom hqondes, amave epoqaSi,<br />
oRond italiaSi daibadeboda.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom gvanca<br />
axla sayvarel saqmes akeTebs,<br />
ambobs, rom sakuTari Tavi<br />
jerac ar upovia da mainc... gvanca<br />
maRlakeliZe aris adamiani,<br />
romelic sul ibrZvis dasaxuli<br />
miznis misaRwevad. misi gzavnili<br />
sazogadoebisTvis ki Semdegia:<br />
„mizans yovelTvis miaRwev,<br />
mTavaria, iSromo da ar dagezaros!”<br />
meSvide gverdidan<br />
- Sesabamisad, swori gza iqneba, rom<br />
jer safrTxeebi Sefasdes, maTi aRmofxvris<br />
gzebis moZiebisa da mowesrigebis<br />
Semdeg ki aRniSnul obieqts daazRvevs.<br />
2012 wlidan „Tergi” me-11 savaWro<br />
centria, romelic xanZris Sedegad ganadgurda.<br />
bazrobis TanamSromlebi gamoZiebis<br />
pasuxs elodebian, ra gaxda RamiT<br />
cecxlis gaCenis mizezi, romelmac<br />
milionobiT lariT daazarala da erTaderTi<br />
Semosavlis gareSe datova maTi<br />
ojaxebi.<br />
xanZrebis raodenobam 2017 wels rekordul<br />
maCvenebels miaRwia. gasuli<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi 15 222 xanZari moxda.<br />
rekorduli iyo xanZris msxverpl-<br />
Ta raodenobac. 2017 wels daiRupa 79<br />
da daSavda 244 adamiani. xanZrisgan ganadgurda<br />
543 Senoba-nageboba.<br />
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yvelaze tragikuli 2017 wlis 24 noembers<br />
baTumSi, sastumro „leogrand-<br />
Si” gaCenili xanZari iyo, romelsac 11<br />
adamianis sicocxle emsxverpla, yvelaze<br />
masStaburi ki borjomis xeobaSi<br />
gaCenili cecxli aRmoCnda.<br />
2012 wlidan guSindel dRemde sul<br />
10 bazroba iyo damwvari:<br />
1. „lilos” bazroba 2012 wlis 15<br />
noembers daiwva;<br />
2. savaWro centr „sabaSi” 2013 wlis<br />
26 Tebervals gaCnda xanZari;<br />
3. „evroparki” 2013 wlis 17 ivliss<br />
daiwva;<br />
4. „boSaTa” bazrobaSi xanZari 2014<br />
wlis 16 seqtembers gaCnda;<br />
5. „xofas” bazrobaSi cecxli 2014<br />
wlis 7 dekembers gaCnda;<br />
6. „eliavas” bazroba 2014 wlis 27 dekembers<br />
daiwva;<br />
7. „isnis” bazrobaSi xanZari 2015<br />
`15 222 xanZari gasul wels~<br />
wlis 21 ianvars gaCnda;<br />
8. „eliavas” bazroba 2015 wlis 4<br />
agvistos daiwva;<br />
9. „Savi” bazroba 2016 wlis 2 agvistos<br />
daiwva;<br />
10. „bavSvTa samyaro” xanZris Sedegad<br />
2017 wlis 29 ianvars ganadgurda.<br />
2018 wlis pirveli martidan,<br />
savaWro centrebis, bazrobebis, sastumroebisa<br />
da benzingasamarTi sad-<br />
gurebis dazRveva savaldebulo gaxda.<br />
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orjRalosnebma ragbi evropis<br />
Cempionatze mesame matCi Caatares<br />
da mesamed gaimarjves. Cveni erovnuli<br />
saragbo nakrebis metoqe amjerad<br />
espaneTi iyo, gundi, romelic<br />
bolo dros aRmavlobis gzas<br />
adgas da didi albaTobiT, momaval<br />
msoflio Taszec iTamaSebs.<br />
Cven ki es amocana jer kidev wina<br />
msoflio Tasze miRweuli SedegiT<br />
(mesame adgili jgufSi) gadavWeriT<br />
da axla borjRalosanTa<br />
samwvrTnelo Stabs aqvs saSualeba,<br />
Tavis gamoCenis Sansi axalgazrdebs<br />
misces, Caataros garkveuli<br />
eqsperimentebi da 2019 wels iaponiaSi<br />
saukeTeso kadrebiTa da<br />
optimaluri taqtika-strategiiT<br />
wavides.<br />
vakeSi, `mixeil mesxze~, borjRalosnebma<br />
espanelTa dacvis<br />
xazi ramdenjerme gaWres da situacia<br />
gaamwvaves, salelove SesaZleblobebic<br />
mravlad Seqmnes, magram<br />
kerketi metoqe mxolod orjer<br />
gatyda da TamaSi 23:10 dasrulda.<br />
borjRalosnebma Tamasa ise aswies,<br />
rom didi sxvaobiT gamarjvebis<br />
molodinSi myof gulSematkivarTa<br />
nawils ukmayofilebis grZnoba<br />
darCa. yvelaferi ase rom ver<br />
gamovida, es metoqis damsaxurebaa.<br />
espanurma ragbis kavSirma qveyana-<br />
Si ragbis donis amaRlebisa da<br />
sportis sxva saxeobebTan (fexbur-<br />
Ti, kalaTburTi, frenburTi da a.<br />
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borjRalosnebma gaasames<br />
rebma moixelTes da daaxloebiT 3<br />
wuTi 15 faziT uwyvetad gvities,<br />
magram qarTvelTa dacvas veraferi<br />
mouxerxes. 23-e wuTze espanelebma<br />
SerkinebaSi jarima gamoimuSaves,<br />
Tumca meTiu peliuSonis<br />
dartyma Zelma aisxlita.<br />
male maspinZlebis jeri dadga<br />
da TxilaiSvilma xazi gaWra, daaxloebiT<br />
50 metris mogebac moxerxda,<br />
magram miznamde 10 metrSi SetevaSi<br />
davjarimdiT. or wuTSi ukve<br />
espanelebi dajarimdnen raqSi da<br />
maTiaSvilma 38 metridan gaitana.<br />
31-e wuTze peliuSonma 41 metridan<br />
gatanili jarimiT gvipasuxa da<br />
wlevandel ragbi evropaze Catarebul<br />
mesame matCSi borjRalosnebTan<br />
pirveli qulebis avtori<br />
gaxda.<br />
34-e wuTze vasil lobJaniZem<br />
gaibrwyina, Cvens naxevarze, 10-metrian<br />
wyvetilTan xazi gaWra da<br />
burTi metoqis 22-metrianamde Caitana,<br />
ramdenime fazis Semdeg karis<br />
win xazi ukve laSa xmalaZem gaWra,<br />
magram miyolam daagviana, saboloevropis<br />
Cempionobamde<br />
ori<br />
gamarjveba<br />
gvaSorebs<br />
S.) gatolebis mizniT moTamaSeTa<br />
naturalizebis gza airCia, frang,<br />
axal zelandiel, inglisel, fijel<br />
Tu sxva erovnebis 25 moragbes espaneTis<br />
moqalaqeoba mianiWa da 11<br />
maTgani saqarTveloSi Camoiyvana.<br />
aseTma cvlilebebma Sedegi gamoiRo.<br />
ruseTTan da rumineTTan<br />
mogebiT `lomebi~ Tavis meore<br />
msoflio Tass miuaxlovdnen. axla<br />
maT germania da belgia hyavT dasamarcxebeli,<br />
Tan ise, rom bonusebi<br />
aRarc sWirdebaT da iaponiis sagzuri<br />
maTi iqneba.<br />
stumrebi agresiulebi iyvnen<br />
raqebSi, swrafad wevdnen dacvis<br />
xazs da Semtevebs sivrceebs uzRudavdnen,<br />
xolo rodesac burTze<br />
kontrols amyarebdnen, fazebs<br />
abamdnen da dacvaSi TamaSs gvaiZulebdnen.<br />
`mixeil mesxze~ anSlagi iyo.<br />
matCis dawyebamde publikam arCil<br />
tatunaSvilis xsovnas wuTieri<br />
dumiliT miago pativi.<br />
Sexvedris debiuti qarTvelebisa<br />
iyo. metoqes burTi raqSi avarTviT<br />
da kontrSeteva wamoviwyeT,<br />
anzor siWinavam marcxena fr-<br />
Taze orjer moigo manZili (meore<br />
epizodSi ukanaxazelebma burTi<br />
mokle monakveTze swrafad CaaTamaSes)<br />
da jamSi 10-metriani wyvetilidan<br />
5-metrianamde mivida, iqidan<br />
vito koleliSvilma Seutia da lelomde<br />
metri daaklda, sami dartymis<br />
Semdeg ki giorgi TxilaiSvilma<br />
burTi axlo ZelTan daamiwa,<br />
Tumca uelselma referim, damiweba<br />
ver davafiqsireo da Serkineba<br />
daniSna.<br />
stumrebi SerkinebaSi orjer<br />
dajarimdnen, mesamed TamaSgarisTvis<br />
da me-10 wuTze soso maTiaSvilma<br />
axlodan karSi dartyma gadawyvita<br />
- 3:0. amis Semdeg TamaSi<br />
jer gaTanabrda, mere burTi stum-<br />
od mxolod jarimas davjerdiT da<br />
maTiaSvilma karis win 15 metridan<br />
gaitana - 9:3 pirveli taimis Semdeg.<br />
borjRalosnebma matCis ganaxlebis<br />
Semdeg isev aqtiurad daiwyes<br />
TamaSi. maTiaSvils 40 metridan<br />
jarima gaucudda, Tumca Secdoma<br />
ramdenime wuTSi gamoaswora.<br />
tradiciulad, is moednis nebismieri<br />
wertilidan cdilobda xeliT<br />
Setevas da amjeradac ase<br />
moiqca, fexiT gadakidebuli Cvens<br />
22-Si aiRo da mboWavebs gamoeqca,<br />
ieriSi jer xmalaZem da mere giorgi<br />
kveselaZem gaagrZela, romelmac<br />
burTi xmalaZes daubruna,<br />
Tumca is 22-Si SeboWes, Salva mamukaSvils<br />
lelomde sul cota<br />
daaklda, ramdenime fazis Semdeg<br />
ki metoqe dajarimda.<br />
espanelebma lelo ramdenime<br />
wuTiT gadades. borjRalosnebma<br />
5-metra SerkinebaSi imZlavres da<br />
meore, aSkara jarimis Semdeg sajarimo<br />
lelo gamoimuSaves - 16:3. taimis<br />
SuaSi iyo kidev erTi, Zalian<br />
kargi Seteva da sandro Todua<br />
bolo momentSi autSi gadaiyvanes.<br />
daskvniT wuTebSi espanelebma<br />
SeZles burTze kontrolis damyareba<br />
da Cvens 22-Si didi dro<br />
gaatares. SvidwuTiani Tavganwiruli<br />
brZolis Sedegad sinbiniT<br />
davkargeT daviT kaWarava da taulum<br />
leloc gaitana, xolo peliu-<br />
Sonma gardasaxa.<br />
savse stadionis gasaxarad, kacnaklulma<br />
borjRalosnebma TamaSi<br />
amaRlebul notze daasrules.<br />
derefnis Semdeg koleliSvilma<br />
burTi molidan swrafad gamoitana<br />
da intervalSi giorgi koSaZes<br />
Seatevina, is lelodan or metrSi<br />
SeaCeres, raqidan giorgi meliqiZe<br />
or mcvels gaumklavda da mexuTe<br />
sanakrebo matCSi Tavisi pirveli<br />
lelo gaitana, xolo maTiaSvilma<br />
gardasaxa da saboloo angariSi<br />
daafiqsira - 23:10.<br />
momdevno TamaSs borjRalosnebi<br />
10 marts, krasnodarSi ruseTis<br />
nakrebis winaaRmdeg gamarTaven.<br />
Sexvedra saqarTvelos droiT 16<br />
saaTze daiwyeba.<br />
xolo ragbi evropis Cempionatis<br />
daskvniT matCSi, borjRalosnebis<br />
turniris farisa da anTimoz<br />
iverielis Tasis dasabruneblad<br />
rumineTs `dinamo arenaze~ 18<br />
marts dauxvdebian.<br />
saqarTvelo – espaneTi 23:10<br />
saqarTvelo: maTiaSvili, Todua,<br />
kaWarava, kveselaZe, siWinava<br />
(koSaZe 76), xmalaZe (malaRuraZe<br />
80), lobJaniZe (afrasiZe 59), nariaSvili<br />
(Jvania 55), mamukaSvili (alxazaSvili<br />
60), CilaCava (meliqiZe<br />
60), nemsaZe, suTiaSvili (o. giorgaZe<br />
65), TxilaiSvili (gaCeCilaZe<br />
65), koleliSvili, lomiZe<br />
3 marts saqarTvelo-espaneTis<br />
paralelurad, ragbi evropis Cempionatze<br />
kidev ori Sexvedra gaimarTa.<br />
rumineTma ruseTs umaspinZla<br />
da 25:15 daamarcxa, xolo belgiam<br />
germania miiRo da 69:15 gaanadgura.<br />
ragbi evropis Cempionatis saturniro<br />
mdgomareoba sami turis<br />
Semdeg:<br />
1. saqarTvelo – 14 qula<br />
2. rumineTi – 9<br />
3. espaneTi – 8<br />
4. ruseTi – 6<br />
5. belgia – 5<br />
6. germania – 0<br />
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luturad gavaneitrale.<br />
amasobaSi, moaxlovda CrdiloeT<br />
irlandiasTan matCi, romelsac<br />
win moskovuri amxanaguri Sexvedra<br />
uZRoda, sadac Cveni metoqe poloneTi<br />
iyo. faqtobrivad, gadawyvetili<br />
iyo, rom belfastSi TamaSs<br />
zustad is TerTmeti kaci daiwyebda,<br />
romelic poloneTTan sastarto<br />
SemadgenlobaSi moxvdeboda.<br />
ukve darwmunebuli viyavi, rom<br />
ZiriTadSi movxvdebodi, magram...<br />
gavril kaCalinma mxolod 16 kac-<br />
Si Semiyvana da saTadarigoTa Soris<br />
gamamwesa. megona, qveyana Tavze<br />
Camomemxo, isic ki vifiqre, rom qa-<br />
dauviwyari<br />
matCi<br />
1969 wlis 10 seqtemberi – am<br />
dRes belfastis ‘uinZor parkze~<br />
msoflios 1970 wlis SesarCevi turniris<br />
matCSi erTmaneTs CrdiloeT<br />
irlandiisa da sabWoTa kavSiris<br />
nakrebebi daupirispirdnen. samgundian<br />
jgufSi, saidanac meqsikis<br />
sagzuri jgufis gamarjvebuls unda<br />
rgeboda, am ori gundis garda<br />
TurqeTi moxvda, romelic maSin<br />
maCanCala iyo da wilisyrisTanave<br />
cxadi Seiqna, rom mundialze britanelTa<br />
da sabWoelTa Soris gamarjvebuli<br />
iTamaSebda.<br />
am ori gundis pirveli urTierTSexvedra<br />
belfastSi gaimarTa<br />
da iq sabWoTa kavSiris nakrebma<br />
misaReb fres (0:0) miaRwia, imave<br />
wlis 22 oqtombers Crdiloirlandielebs<br />
moskovSi 2:0 sZlia da<br />
jgufic moigo.<br />
Crdiloirlandielebs ar hyavdaT<br />
bevri varskvlavi, samagierod,<br />
am gundis Rirsebas icavda msoflio<br />
fexburTis istoriaSi erTerTi<br />
saukeTeso fexburTeli<br />
jorj besti, romelic belfastSi<br />
sabWoelTa marjvena mcvelma revaz<br />
ZoZuaSvilma srulad gaaneitrala,<br />
moskovSi ki ‘manCester iunaitedis~<br />
legenda nakrebs aRar<br />
Camohyolia. bests Tavisi brwyinvale<br />
karieris ganmavlobaSi msoflios<br />
Cempionatze arasdros uTamaSia...<br />
bestis winaaRmdeg Sedegiani<br />
TamaSi erT-erTi yvelaze STambe-<br />
Wdavi epizodia ZoZuaSvilis mdidari<br />
karieridan da isic Tamamad<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, 1969 wlis 10 seqtembers<br />
qarTuli fexburTis istoriaSi<br />
oqros furceli Caiwera.<br />
revaz ZoZuaSvili, romelmac sabWoTa<br />
kavSiris nakrebSi xuTi weliwadi<br />
gaatara da am periodis<br />
ganmavlobaSi evropis ori da msoflios<br />
erTi Cempionatis finalur<br />
etapze, aseve olimpiadaze iTamaSa<br />
da am periodis ganmavlobaSi evropuli<br />
vercxli da olimpiuri brinjao<br />
moipova, detalurad ixsenebs,<br />
Tu ramdeni dabrkoleba gadalaxa<br />
am matCis ZiriTad SemadgenlobaSi<br />
mosaxvedrad da rogor gaumklavda<br />
legendarul jorj bests:<br />
‘sabWoTa kavSiris nakrebis gza<br />
msoflio Cempionatis finaluri<br />
turnirisken erT konkretul, magram<br />
uZneles amocanaze gadioda<br />
– radac unda dagvjdomoda, unda<br />
gagveneitralebina CrdiloirlandielTa<br />
gamokveTili lideri<br />
jorj besti.<br />
es is periodi iyo, roca nakrebs<br />
nel-nela vuSinaurdebodi da sulac<br />
ar mqonda garantirebuli ara<br />
mxolod ZiriTadSi TamaSi, aramed<br />
gafarToebul SemadgenlobaSi<br />
moxvedrac. im momentisTvis situacia<br />
iseTi iyo, rom dacvis flangebze<br />
sastartoSi moxvedraze<br />
pretenzias araerTi maRali klasis<br />
fexburTeli acxadebda da, amavdroulad,<br />
aravis kandidatura gamokveTili<br />
ar yofila.<br />
sul rva kandidati viyaviT –<br />
oTxi marjvena mcveli da oTxic<br />
marcxena. maxsovs, siaSi merve kacad<br />
vewere, anu ZiriTadSi moxvedris<br />
yvelaze naklebi Sansi, samwvrTnelo<br />
Stabis azriT, swored me<br />
mqonda. Tumca belfastur matCamde<br />
ramdenime Tve rCeboda da imis<br />
perspeqtiva mqonda, rom am sias<br />
saTaveSi movqceodi. konkurencias<br />
iseTi maRali klasis mcvelebs vuwevdi,<br />
rogorebic iyvnen ponomariovi,<br />
istomini da logofeti.<br />
mwvrTnelma bestis TamaSis videoCanawerebi<br />
gviCvena, rasac yuradRebiT<br />
vadevne Tvali da goneba-<br />
Si Sevecade gameanalizebina, Tu<br />
vis ufro waagavda igi stiliT, _<br />
miSa mesxs Tu slava metrevels?<br />
saerTo orivesTan hqonda – miSas<br />
gamokveTili individualizmiT<br />
hgavda, slavas ki – saTamaSo mravalferovnebiTa<br />
da taqtikuri<br />
ganswavlulobiT. diax, besti erTdroulad<br />
iyo saocari individualistic<br />
da amasTanave, koleqtiur<br />
fexburTsac umaRles doneze<br />
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TamaSobda, utevda orive flangidan<br />
da centridanac. saboloo<br />
jamSi, TamaSis stiliT mainc mesxs<br />
mivamsgavse.<br />
miSasTan erTad didi xnis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ar miTamaSia, magram varjiSebsa<br />
da ormxriv TamaSebze misi<br />
manera kargad aviTvise da Tavis<br />
qebaSi Tu ar CamomarTmevT, Cemi<br />
dajabvna uWirda. erTi sityviT,<br />
gonebaSi aRvidgine mesxis yvela<br />
moZraoba da gavixsene, Tu rogor<br />
vTamaSobdi mis winaaRmdeg.<br />
fiqrisa da momzadebisTvis daaxloebiT<br />
naxevari weliwadi mqonda.<br />
am xnis ganmavlobaSi yoveldRe<br />
revaz<br />
ZoZuaSvili<br />
legendaruli<br />
jorj bestis<br />
winaaRmdeg<br />
Tvalwin medga mesxica da bestic.<br />
yvela varjiSsa da yvela matCze<br />
vmuSaobdi saimisod, rom bestis<br />
winaaRmdeg TamaSisas Tavi ar Semercxvina.<br />
Tumca jer am matCSi<br />
monawileobis ufleba mqonda mosapovebeli,<br />
rac bestis ganeitralebaze<br />
aranakleb saZnelo saqme iyo.<br />
nakrebis samwvrTnelo Stabis<br />
wevrebi Tbilisis dinamos TiToeul<br />
matCs guldasmiT akvirdebodnen<br />
da vicodi, rom klubis SemadgenlobaSi<br />
erT Cagdebul TamaSsac<br />
ki ar mapatiebdnen – Cemi sanakrebo<br />
kariera umal dasruldeboda.<br />
swored amitom sakuTar Tavs mcired<br />
kompromissac ki ar vuwevdi,<br />
Tavdauzogavad vSromobdi imisTvis,<br />
rom ‘dinamoSi~ yvela Sexvedra<br />
maRal doneze Cametarebina.<br />
am eqvsi Tvis ganmavlobaSi xanmokle<br />
sanakrebo Sekrebebi ewyoboda<br />
da nakrebis mwvrTnelebi iqac<br />
guldasmiT makvirdebodnen. flangis<br />
mcvelTa rvakaciani sia nelnela<br />
icxrileboda da bolos oTx<br />
fexburTelamde Camovida.<br />
nakrebis varjiSebze Cemi upiratesoba<br />
ufro da ufro ikveTeboda.<br />
yvela sabWoeli marcxena garemarbi,<br />
romlis meurveobac ormxriv<br />
TamaSebze damavales, abso-<br />
rTvelobis gamo damCagres. sicocxle<br />
aRar mindoda, naxevarwliani<br />
Sroma da Tavganwirva wyalSi meyreboda.<br />
arada, rac marTalia, marTalia<br />
- marjvena mcvelad gamwesebuli<br />
afonini poloneTTan kargad Tama-<br />
Sobda, xma aRar amomeReboda. samagierod,<br />
pirveli taimi Caagdo marcxena<br />
mcvelma lovCevma da pirveli<br />
taimis bolosken kaCalini meubneba,<br />
gaxurdi, lovCevi unda Secvaloo.<br />
CemTvis arc marcxena mcveloba<br />
yofila ucxo, magram amdeni<br />
xnis ganmavlobaSi bestis winaaRmdeg<br />
TamaSze vocnebobdi da vifiqre,<br />
radac unda damijdes, or<br />
nomerze unda davdge-meTqi.<br />
daiwyo meore taimi da afonins<br />
veubnebi, kaCalinma marjvena mcveloba<br />
damavala, Sen ki marcxniv<br />
unda iTamaSo-meTqi. sanam gaognebuli<br />
kaCalini gons movidoda, Tavi<br />
movikali da polonelTa marcxenaflangels<br />
fexi ar gavanZrevine.<br />
igi 20 wuTSi Secvales. kaCalins xma<br />
aRar amouRia. 2:0 movigeT.<br />
matCis Semdeg igi mxolod msubuqi<br />
sayveduriT Semoifargla,<br />
vivxvdi, rom Zalian movewone. Tavi<br />
ver Sevikave da cota uxeSad vuTxari,<br />
_ aba, sxvanairad rogor<br />
damemtkicebina SenTvis, rom Ziri-<br />
TadSi TamaSs vimsaxureb-meTqi!<br />
poloneTis matCis Semdeg sab-<br />
WoTa sportul presaSi mwvrTnel-<br />
Ta da specialistTa gamokiTxvis<br />
Sedegebi gamoqveynda – 20 kacidan<br />
18-ma Tqva, rom bestis winaaRmdeg<br />
me unda meTamaSa. ise, Cems konkurentebs<br />
rom vuyurebdi, vxedavdi,<br />
rom amis didi survili ar hqoniaT<br />
– nakrebSi Cagdebuli erTi<br />
matCi sanakrebo karieris dasrulebas<br />
niSnavda da ar surdaT amxela<br />
riskze wasvla.<br />
CavediT belfastSi da ukve vicodi,<br />
rom ZiriTadSi viTamaSebdi.<br />
faqtobrivad, ar minerviulia, radgan<br />
naxevari wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
sakuTari Tavi am dapirispirebisTvis<br />
bolomde movamzade. mTavari<br />
brZola, rasac sastarto SemadgenlobaSi<br />
moxvedra erqva, ukve mogebuli<br />
mqonda.<br />
matCiswina moTelvaze besti axlodan<br />
SevaTvaliere. Cem winaSe<br />
tandabali da fizikurad susti<br />
biWi idga, romlis vizualsac Cem-<br />
Si SiSis natamalic ar gamouwvevia.<br />
vifiqre, aman ra unda miqnas-meTqi.<br />
erTi ki iyo – besti saocrad lamazi<br />
mamakaci iyo da isic ki gavifiqre,<br />
bunebis am SesaniSnav qmnilebas<br />
uxeSad rogor unda movepyromeTqi.<br />
Tumca daiwyo TamaSi da yvelaferi<br />
Tavis adgilze dadga. maxsovs,<br />
erTi tribuna mTlianad bestis<br />
Tayvanismcemeli qalebiT iyo<br />
savse da rogorc ki burTs miiRebda,<br />
gulisgamawvrilebeli kivili<br />
ismoda. Tumca burTian bests<br />
gasaqani ar miveci da, faqtobrivad,<br />
yvela orTabrZola movuge.<br />
ramdenjerme xistad, magram Tama-<br />
Sis wesebis dacviT veTamaSe, razec<br />
wamoenTo, magram mec ar davuTme<br />
da agresiis survili davukarge.<br />
mokled, belfastSi sasurvel<br />
fres mivaRwieT, moskovSi ki besti<br />
aRar Camosula...<br />
im Sexvedris Semdeg bestma presasTan<br />
saubarSi aRiara, erTader-<br />
Ti mcveli, romelsac karieris ganmavlobaSi<br />
veraferi movuxerxe, Zo-<br />
ZuaSviliao...<br />
bests amis Semdegac Sevxvdi,<br />
oRond amxanagur matCSi. mas maisuri<br />
orivejer gavucvale. bestis<br />
erTi maisuri quTaisis sportul<br />
muzeumSi inaxeba, meore ki Tbilisis<br />
muzeumidan 90-iani wlebis qaosis<br />
periodSi moipares~.<br />
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amirani<br />
darbazi 3 OV 13:30 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
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darbazi 3 16:00 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 6 OV 16:20 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 3 19:00 13-14 l.<br />
IMAX OV 19:45 19 l.<br />
darbazi 3 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
IMAX OV 22:30 19 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 1 19:15 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 5 OV 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 3 16:30 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 1 19:30 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 1 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
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amirani<br />
darbazi 2 17:00 17 l.<br />
darbazi 1 22:15 13-14 l.<br />
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darbazi 6 OV 19:20 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 6 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
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darbazi 4 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
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darbazi 4 17:15 11-12 l.<br />
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dede svanuri balada<br />
amirani<br />
darbazi 3 16:30 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 3 21:45 13-14 l.<br />
kavea isT foinTi<br />
darbazi 5 16:45 10-11 l.<br />
darbazi 7 22:30 13-14 l.<br />
kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
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darbazi 4 OV 14:45 9-10 l.<br />
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darbazi 8 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
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kavea Tbilisi moli<br />
darbazi 3 14:30 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 2 19:45 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 2 22:10 13-14 l.<br />
rusTaveli<br />
darbazi 4 15:00 9-10 l.<br />
darbazi 4 20:00 13-14 l.<br />
darbazi 4 RUS 22:00 13-14 l.<br />
1 aSS dolari<br />
2.4585<br />
1 evro<br />
3.0274<br />
1 girvanqa sterlingi<br />
3.3976<br />
1 Sveicaruli franki<br />
2.6249<br />
100 rusuli rubli<br />
4.3112<br />
amindi<br />
samSabaTi<br />
oTxSabaTi<br />
xuTSabaTi<br />
paraskevi<br />
SabaTi<br />
kvira<br />
orSabaTi<br />
Tbilisi<br />
6-8 0<br />
9-11 0<br />
14-17 0<br />
12-15 0<br />
11-14 0<br />
9-12 0<br />
10-11 0<br />
quTaisi<br />
15-17 0<br />
16-18 0<br />
13-16 0<br />
11-14 0<br />
9-12 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
15-18 0<br />
baTumi<br />
15-18 0<br />
17-20 0<br />
15-17 0<br />
10-12 0<br />
9-11 0<br />
13-15 0<br />
15-16 0<br />
zugdidi<br />
17-19 0<br />
18-20 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
13-14 0<br />
16-18 0<br />
gori<br />
3-5 0<br />
7-10 0<br />
10-13 0<br />
7-10 0<br />
4-6 0<br />
5-6 0<br />
8-10 0<br />
Telavi<br />
8-11 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
16-19 0<br />
14-17 0<br />
13-16 0<br />
9-11 0<br />
12-15 0<br />
foTi<br />
15-18 0<br />
16-19 0<br />
13-16 0<br />
12-14 0<br />
10-13 0<br />
11-13 0<br />
14-16 0<br />
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