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Cemi simarTle, 

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mosamarTle gvritiSvili advokatTa 

rezo SatakiSvili 

597 94 42 50 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi mosamarTleebis 

gamwesebasTan dakav- 

Sirebuli skandaluri epopea 

grZeldeba. „qronika+” esaubre- 

ba am epopeis erT-erT mTavar 

figurants _ quTaisis saapela- 

cio sasamarTlos Tavmjdomares, 

iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos 

wevrs, mosamarTles _ baton dim- 

itri gvritiSvils: 

_ b-no dimitri ,Tqven da sxva 

mosamarTleebi, romlebic wardgenili 

iyaviT uzenaes sasamarT- 

loSi, amJamadac mosamarTleebi 

xarT da aranakleb mniSvnelovani 

Tanamdebobebi giWiravT,. arc 

beselias dajgufebas, arc sa- 

zogadoebis ama Tu im fenas, 

romelic dRes xmaurobs, Tqven- 

Tan aqamde aranairi pretenziebi 

ar hqonia, ratom gaxdiT uceb mi- 

uReblebi? ratom xarT misaRebi 

quTaisis saapelacio sasamarT- 

los Tavmjdomared da ratom 

gaxdiT miuRebeli uzenaesi sasa- 

marTlos rigiT wevrad? 

_ marTali brZandebiT, arc 

mTeli am wlebis manZilze hqoniaT 

aranairi pretenziebi da arc 

im samuSao jgufSi muSaobisas, 

romelic 2017 wlis zafxulSi 

Seiqmna. am jgufSi CvenTan erTad 

iyvnen parlamentis, iusticiis 

saministros, arasamTavrobo seqtoris, 

donori organizaciebis 

warmomadgenlebi. vmuSaobdiT sxvadasxva 

mimarTulebiT: disciplinuri 

samarTalwarmoeba, iusticiis 

umaRlesi sabWos saqmianobis 

regulireba, iusticiis skolis 

reformireba. am formats Tavad 

eka beselia xelmZRvanelobda 

da vinmes Tu gagigiaT beselias 

mxridan raime kritikuli 

komentari sasamarTlos, zogadad, 

am sistemis an calkeuli personaliebis, 

Tundac Cemi an Cemi 

kolegebis mimarT, vis saxelsac 

dRes xSirad axseneben? piriqiT, 

mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi Zalian 

konstruqciul, mSvid, saqmian 

garemoSi vmsjelobdiT uamrav 

sakiTxze. disciplinur samar- 

TalwarmoebasTan dakavSirebiT 

konsensussac mivaRwieT da kanonproeqtic 

daido, romlis inicirebac 

uaxloes momavalSi moxdeba. 

sxva mimarTulebebiTac vagrZelebdiT 

muSaobas, magram 2018 wlis 

dekemberSi axali konstituciis 

Sesabamisi norma ZalaSi Sevida da 

iusticiis sabWom kanonis sruli 

dacviT ganaxorciela kandidatebis 

nominireba uzenaes sasamarTloSi. 

pirvelad saqarTvelos istoriaSi 

sasamarTlo xelisuflebam 

vinmesTan winaswari konsultaciis 

gareSe daasaxela kandidatebi 

da parlaments warudgina. 

es ar gvapaties. pirdapir komentarebic 

keTdeboda, _ rogor 

gabeda sasamarTlom, kandidaturebi 

rom warmoadgines CvenTan 

winaswar SeuTanxmeblado?! 

_ es rom mTeli „qarTuli 

ocnebis” pozicia yofiliyo, 

albaT, dageTanxmebodiT kidec, 

magram Tqven mxolod beselia da 

misi Tanamoazreebi dagipirispirdnen. 

„qarTuli ocnebis” umravlesoba 

piriqiT _ Tqven mx- 

ares iyo. 

_ „qarTuli ocnebis” umravlesobam 

marTlac jansaRi pozicia 

daikava da es dadasturda kidec 

politsabWos gancxadebiT. sasamarTlo 

sistemis winaaRmdeg agorebulma 

kampaniam marTlac 

orkestrirebuli Setevis xasiaTi 

miiRo, ucnaurad dairazma yvela 

erTad, erTi mxriv, deputatebis 

jgufi, meore mxriv, advokatTa 

asociacia sasamarTlo xelisuflebis 

winaaRmdeg miRebuli rezoluciiT, 

arasamTavrobo seqtori 

samarTlebriv CarCos absoluturad 

gadasuli moTxovniT, 

rom daiSalos iusticiis sabWo 

da moqmedi mosamarTleebi sistemidan 

wavidnen da a. S. mTeli es 

uecari Sturmi namdvilad araa 

jansaRi procesi da am fonze nam- 

zurab adeiSvili 

daviT asaTiani 

dvilad misasalmebelia, rom 

mmarTveli partiis politikuri 

sabWo amgvar gancxadebas iRebs 

da aRiarebs sasamarTlos damoukideblobis, 

mis saqmianobaSi Caurevlobis 

aucileblobad. 

_ sasamarTlos damoukide- 

bloba undaT da amitom gaakeT- 

es eg gancxadeba Tu imitom, rom 

mag nawilisTvis swored Tqveni 

kandidaturebi iyo misaRebi? 

_ Cven es aRviqviT, rogorc 

pasuxismgebliani politikuri Zalis 

gancxadeba, romelSic garkveviT 

iyo naTqvami, rom bolo 

periodSi sasamarTlo xelisuflebis 

diskreditaciis mizniT, 

politikurad motivirebuli kampania 

mimdinareobs. da rom aseTi 

Sturmi dauSvebelia. 

_ mag gancxadebaSi isic iyo 

naTqvami, rom 2012 wlamde saqa- 

rTveloSi adamiani samarTals 

ver ipovida, rom sasamarTlo 

sazogadoebis daTrgunvis erT- 

`miTxariT, ra formiT, 

ranairad dagimtkicoT 

Cemi simarTle, rom 

arc adeiSvils da arc 

erT sxva maRali 

Tanamdebobis pirs 

CemTan ar daurekavs~ 

erTi instrumenti iyo. 

_ mag calkeul Sefasebebs ar 

veTanxmebi. esaa politikuri Sefasebebi 

politikuri Zalis 

gancxadebaSi. maT Tavisi politikuri 

dRis wesrigi, politikuri 

miznebi da amocanebi aqvT. 

_ kobaxiZis gancxadebaze 

raRas ityviT? isic politikuri 

Sefasebaa, mosamarTleebze rom 

Tqva, adamianebi, romlebic 2012 

wlamde masobrivad cud raRa- 

cebs sCadiodnen, axla karg raR- 

acebs sCadiano? iyaviT savleebi 

da gaxdiT pavleebi? dameTanx- 

meT, rom erTob absurduli ga- 

ncxadebaa. 

_ esec politikuri Sefasebaa, 

romelsac ar viziareb. vfiqrob, 

rom 2012 wlamdec mosamarTle 

viyavi da dResac mosamarTle var! 

me vmoRvaweobdi moqmedi kanonmdeblobis 

safuZvelze. maSin sazogadoebrivi 

da saxelmwifoebrivi 

dakveTa iyo, rom daZleuliyo 

sistemuri korufcia da 

qurduli samyaros gavlena, amoZirkvuliyo 

es ori wyluli saxelmwifos 

sxeulze. kanonmdeblobac 

represiuli xasiaTis Seiqmna, 

saxelmwifom nulovani tolerantoba 

gamoacxada, rac, Cemi azriT, 

im viTarebaSi gamarTlebulic 

iyo! dRes moqmedi sasjelis nawilobrivi 

an mTliani STanTqmis 

principisgan gansxvavebiT, maSin 

moqmedebda sasjelis sruli Sekrebis 

principi da bevri amasac 

usamarTlobad miiCnevda da akritikebda, 

magram im dros aseTi 

kanoni moqmedebda, sasamarTlo 

dimitri gvritiSvili 

kanonis aRmasrulebeli iyo da ra 

kanonic moqmedebda saxelmwifo- 

Si, im kanonis Sesabamisad moqmedebdnen 

mosamarTleebi, amitom 

viRacis TvalSi Cven SeiZleba 

jalaTebad aRviqmebodiT, magram 

eg imas ar niSnavs, rom Cven mar- 

Tlac jalaTebi viyaviT. 

axalma xelisuflebam liberaluri 

kursi aiRo, bevrad liberaluri 

gaxda kanonmdeblobac, 

axla saxelmwifos sxva amocanebi 

aqvs, socialur sakiTxebs met yuradRebas 

aqcevs, magram es swored 

imis gamo gaxda SesaZlebeli, 

rom im wlebSi sistemuri korufcia, 

qurduli samyaros gavlena 

daiZlia. rogorc giTxariT, me 

ver gaviziareb verc imas, rom 

Cven „masobrivad cud raRacebs 

CavdiodiT” 2012 wlamde; verc 

imas, rom 2012 wlamde adamiani 

samarTals ver ipovida. 

_ „qarTuli ocneba”, is naw- 

ilic, romelic Tqven gicavT da 

isic, romelic gitevT, erTsu- 

lovani aris erT rameSi _ orive 

frTa miiCnevs, rom „nacmoZrao- 

bis dros” sasamarTlo damoukidebeli 

ar iyo da mTlianad ade- 

iSvilis mier kontroldeboda. 

amas ara marto „ocneba”, sxva 

politikuri Zalebic xSirad 

miuTiTeben. 

_ adeiSvili im Tanamdebobebze 

iyo (mTavari prokurori, iusticiis 

ministri), romelic pirdapir 

ukavSirdeboda sisxlissamarTlebriv 

devnas, im represiul 

kanonmdeblobas. sisxlis samarTlis 

politikis ganmsazRvreli sa- 

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asociaciis Tavmjdomares amxels 

eka beselia 

kanonmdeblo iniciativebis inicirebac 

swored iusticiis saministros 

mier xdeboda da xalxis 

TvalSi es iniciativebi adeiSvilis 

kanonebad aRiqmeboda. im iniciativebis 

sulis Camdgmeli, ZiriTadad, 

marTlac adeiSvili iyo, 

adeiSvili marTavda prokuraturas, 

sasamarTlo ki am kanonebiT 

xelmZRvanelobda da amitomac 

aRiqmeboda, rom sasamarTloc im 

represiul manqanaze iyo mibmuli, 

romelsac adeiSvili akontrolebda. 

_ adeiSvils TqvenTan arc 

erT saqmeze ar daurekavs? 

_ sruli pasuxismgeblobiT 

minda giTxraT: araTu ar daurekavs, 

saerTod ar vicnob zurab 

adeiSvils. miTxariT, ra formiT, 

ranairad dagimtkicoT Cemi simarTle, 

rom arc adeiSvils da arc 

erT sxva maRali Tanamdebobis 

pirs CemTan ar daurekavs? 

_ arc maSin daurekavs aravis, 

rodesac daCi caguria dai- 

WireT? 

_ arc maSin da arc sxva dros. 

_ Tqveni oponentebi yvelaze 

xSirad swored imas gixseneben, 

rom Tqven patimroba SeufardeT 

daCi cagurias. daiWerdiT dRes 

daCi cagurias, igive saqme rom 

iyos? 

_ mtkicebulebiTi standarti 

sxvadasxva epoqaSi sxvadasxva iyo. 

Sua saukuneebSi mtkicebulebaTa 

dedoflad aRiareba miiCneoda, 

Semdeg es standarti Seicvala. 

maSin ra xdeboda? ori patrulinspeqtoris 

Cveneba mtkicebulebaTa 

im erTobliobas qmnida, 

romelic pasuxisgebaSi micemuli 

piris Cvenebas aqarwylebda, rom 

igi udanaSauloa. uzenaesma sasamarTlom 

erT-erT saqmeze gadawyvetileba 

gamoitana, romelsac 

Semdeg qvemdgomi instanciebi msgavs 

saqmeebze viyenebdiT. uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos damkvidrebuli 

praqtikiT, Tu policiels angareba 

ar amoZravebda, ar dasturdeboda, 

rom mikerZoebulia da 

raime piradi interesi hqonda dakavebulis 

mimarT, policielis 

Cveneba unda gageziarebina. uzen- 

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aesi sasamarTlo uTiTebda, rom 

policiis TanamSromeli saxelmwifo 

mosamsaxurea, kvalificiuria, 

samarTaldarRvevaze reagireba 

misi uSualo valdebulebaa 

da mas saamisod profesiuli 

unar-Cvevebic aqvs, kompetenciac, 

sandoobac, radgan igi, pasuxisgebaSi 

micemuli pirisgan gansxvavebiT, 

pasuxs agebs micemul Cvenebaze 

da amdenad, Cven, im standartidan 

gamomdinare, roca sxva mtkicebuleba 

ar iyo, unda gagveziarebina 

policielTa Cveneba. 

dRes patrul-inspeqtorebi teqnikiT 

arian aRWurvili, rom video 

Caiweron da damatebiTi mtkicebuleba 

arsebobs, mtkicebulebiTi 

standarti ganviTarda, magram 

maSin es ar iyo. momiyvanes 

daCi caguria. TviTon caguria da 

misi megobari mimtkicebdnen, rom 

mama abraamis batknebi iyvnen da 

policielebma politikuri dakveTa 

Seasrules. policielebi ki 

acxadebdnen, rom misdevdnen da, 

maTi moTxovnis miuxedavad, caguria 

ar aCerebda manqanas, ar emorCileboda 

maT, rom maT gza Cauxerges 

da iZulebis wesiT gaaCerebines, 

rom manqanidan gadmoxtnen 

caguria da misi megobari da sityvierad 

Seuracxyofdnen policielebs, 

arc miTiTebis Semdeg 

wyvetdnen Seuracxyofas, aramarTlzomier 

qmedebas agrZelebdnen. 

mokled, erT mxares iyo policielTa 

es Cveneba, meore mxares 

ki _ pasuxisgebaSi micemuli cagurias 

Cveneba. policielebi pasuxs 

agebdnen TavianT Cvenebaze, es pasuxs 

ar agebda. gekiTxebiT, imdroindeli 

standartis pirobeb- 

Si sxva ra gadawyvetileba unda 

gamometana? aSkarad ikveTeboda 

samarTaldarRvevis Semadgenloba, 

saxeze iyo damamZimebeli garemoebebic: 

jgufuroba, gangrZobiToba. 

isini jgufurad uwevdnen 

winaaRmdegobas policias da mowodebis 

miuxedavad, agrZelebdnen 

am winaaRmdegobas. am yvelafris 

gaTvaliswinebiT, CavTvale, 

rom 10-dRiani administraciuli 

patimroba adekvaturi iyo. am 

gadawyvetilebaze medavebian axla. 

es yvelaferi aravis gaaxsendeboda, 

me rom uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

mosamarTleobis kandidatad 

ar vyofiliyavi nominirebuli. 

es gadawyvetileba gamovitane, 

rogorc pirveli instanciis 

mosamarTlem, Cemi gadawyvetileba 

gaasaCivres kidec, magram 

zemdgomma instanciam arsebiTad 

arc ganixila, Tbilisis 

saapelacio sasamarTlom saCivari 

arc ki dauSva. magram im mosamar- 

Tles dRes aravin axsenebs, imitom 

rom ar yofila nominirebuli 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi. 

_ anu im mosamarTles, roca 

sadme dasaniSnad waradgenen, ma- 

Sin gauxseneben? 

_ aucileblad. me imasac medavebian, 

TiTqos ar gaviTvaliswine, 

rom caguria nacemi da nawamebi 

iyo. axla saerTod eSxSi Sevida 

da erT-erTi telegamosvlis 

dros gamoacxada, 50-mde policielma 

damakava, wixliT Semdga... 

Semdeg maT policiaSi wamaTries, 

betonze damagdes da Cemi cema 

gaagrZeleso da Turme amis mere 

mouyvaniaT CemTan sasamarTloSi. 

sruli pasuxismgeblobiT vacxadeb: 

CemTan arasodes aravis ar 

mouyvania 50 kacis nacemi da 

nawamebi araTu caguria, saerTod 

vinme. absoluturad ar damrCenia 

STabeWdileba, rom is vinmes nacemi 

hyavda. dRes ki ambobs, fexze 

ver videqi da ver vlaparakobdio. 

magram minda giTxraT, aqtiurad 

monawileobda procesSi, Tavis 

advokat kaxa koJoriZesTan er- 

Tad Suamdgomlobebs ayenebda, 

poziciasac gadasarevad ayalibebda. 

Tavad brZana, fizikuri dazianebebi 

momayeneso da roca es 

Tqva, maSinve ganvumarte, rom Cven 

imJamad amas ar vixilavdiT, 

aramed vixilavdiT administraciuli 

samarTaldarRvevis saqmes 

da Tu policiam Zalas gadaameta, 

es calke davis sagani iyo, prokuraturas 

gamoZieba unda daewyo, 

saqme aRZruliyo policielis 

winaaRmdeg da daisjeboda kidec 

is policieli, Tu danaSauli gamoikveTeboda. 

es gasagebad ganvumarte. 

ratomRac, im „mwamebeli” 

policielebisTvis aravis uCivlia. 

axla gaaxsendaT Cems „gasaSaveblad”, 

rom yuradReba ar miaqcia, 

ugulebelyo Cemi nawamebi 

mdgomareobao da a. S. 

_ mainc, ratom gaxdiT ase 

uceb miuRebeli beseliasTvis? 

visi gayvana undoda Tqven nacv- 

lad? 

_ ar vici... marTla ar vici, 

ubralod, im komentarebidan rac 

gakeTda, es daskvna gamovitane, 

rom garkveul Zalebs winaswari 

konsultaciebi da viRacebis lobireba 

surdaT, risi SesaZleblobac 

sasamarTlo xelisuflebis 

dRevandelma menejmentma ar misca. 

_ ki magram, beselias intere- 

sebma ratom gamoiwvia es orkestrirebuli 

Seteva yvela mxri- 

dan? ratom daemTxva misi, aras- 

amTavrobo seqtoris, igive advo- 

katTa asociaciis poziciebi? 

yvela eseni erTad moqmedeben Tu 

yvela cal-calke flangebidan 

gitevT? 

_ ar mgonia, rom cal-calke 

flangebidan gvitevdnen, es kargad 

dagegmil Setevas hgavs, 

romelic imdenad mZlavri iyo, 

iseTi aJiotaJi atyda, iseTi lan- 

ZRvis niaRvari wamovida, rom 

sistemis interesebidan gamomdinare, 

nominirebulma kandidatebma 

parlaments erToblivi 

gancxadebiT mivmarTeT, rom Cveni 

kandidaturebi aRar ganexila. 

_ am orkestris diriJori vi- 

naa? is, visac uyvars diriJoris 

mokiTxva im orkestrSi, romel- 

Sic ukravs? beselia? 

_ am aJiotaJma ukve isedac 

daazarala uzenaes sasamarTlo- 

Si mosamarTleebis droulad gamwesebis 

procesi da ar minda, 

vano zardiaSvili 

kidev uaresad dazaraldes, amitom 

Tavs Sevikaveb, ar Seval siRrmeebSi, 

magram vityvi, rom es 

orkestrirebul Setevas hgavs. me 

ar vici, diriJori vin aris, 

calkeul subieqts ra konkretuli 

interesi amoZravebs, riT aris 

es gamowveuli. faqtia, rom yvelasTvis 

axla gavxdiT miuReblebi 

_ beseliasTvisac, arasamTavroboebisTvisac, 

advokatTa asociaciis 

xelmZRvanelisTvisac! 

yvela eseni im jgufSi weliwadze 

meti muSaobdnen CvenTan erTad. 

me Tu vinmes jalaTad da amoralur 

pirad miviCnev, arc davjdebi 

masTan samuSaod. isini CvenTan 

erTad isxdnen da mTeli am xnis 

ganmavlobaSi protestic ar daufiqsirebiaT. 

iq, CvenTan, mSvidad 

da komfortulad TanamSromlobdnen 

da rogorc ki uzenaes 

sasamarTloSi dagvasaxeles, uceb 

gavxdiT jalaTebi. Turme, Tu 

Cven viqnebiT uzenaes sasamarTloSi, 

Cveni Svilebis, saerTod, 

saqarTvelos momavali dasamardeba. 

es isterika gacdenilia samarTlebrivi 

diskusiis farglebs 

da raRac sxva interesebs emsaxureba. 

dRes iusticiis umaRlesi 

sabWos, saerTod saxelmwifos didi 

da legitimuri interesia, rom 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi mosamarTleTa 

gamwesebis procesi droulad 

dasruldes, radgan dResdReobiT 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

marTlac katastrofuli viTarebaa, 

28 mosamarTlis nacvlad 10 

mosamarTlea da TiToeuls 300- 

ze meti saqme aqvs. amitom Cveni 

amocanaa, rom es procesi rogorme 

bolomde miviyvanoT ise, 

rom samarTlebrivi diskusiis 

farglebs ar gavcdeT da yovelgvari 

politikuri elementisgan 

ganTavisufldes. Cven, mosamar- 

Tleebs, xelisuflebasTan pretenzia 

gvaqvs. 

_ ra pretenzia? 

_ veneciis komisiis rekomendacia 

iyo, rom uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

mosamarTleebi iusticiis 

umaRles sabWos daeniSna. Cvenda 

samwuxarod, parlamentma es rekomendacia 

ar gaiTvaliswina da 

sanaxevrod Seasrula, sabWos mxolod 

nominirebis uflebamosileba 

gadmogvca da arCevis uflebamosileba 

parlaments dautova. 

anu raRac politikuri Semadgeneli 

darCa da swored amas iyenebs 

garkveuli Zalebi, roca dainaxes, 

rom sasamarTlo xelisufleba 

damoukideblad moqmedebs da 

aravis uTanxmebs arafers, ukve am 

sanaxevrod mocemul uflebamosilebasac 

gvedavebian. arada, 

aqamde, rasac axla iusticiis sabWo 

wyvets, prezidenti erTpirovnulad 

wyvetda. ai, ase, gaiRvi- 

Zebda da sazogadoebas sauzmeze 

warudgenda xan iusticiis umaRlesi 

sabWos wevrs, xan uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos wevrebs, xan Tavmjdomares. 

_ rogorc wesi, Tavis „padru- 

gebs”. 

gagrZeleba meoTxe gv. 

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mosamarTle gvritiSvili advokatTa 

mesame gverdidan 

_ diax, swored ase, sauzmeze 

daniSna ana doliZe iusticiis 

sabWos wevrad. erTi araiuristi, 

araprofesionali kaci amgvar 

wardgenebs axorcielebda da ma- 

Sin es xalxi amas ratom ar akritikebda? 

axla prezidentis nacvlad 

kandidatebs profesiuli, 

kolegiuri organo, iusticiis 

umaRlesi sabWo waradgens, dakompleqtebuli 

moqmedi mosamarTleebiT, 

sxva kompetenturi praqtikosi 

Tu Teoretikosi iuristebiT. 

amaTi SerCeuli kandidaturebi 

arian cudi da is, rom iRviZebda 

da brifingze viRacas asaxelebda, 

arc ganxilvas da arc 

gasaCivrebas rom ar eqvemdebareboda, 

is kargi iyo? amaze ratom 

ar iRebda xmas arasamTavrobo seqtori? 

albaT, margvelaSvili 

maT uTanxmebda maTTvis misaReb 

kandidaturebs, maT nacnob-megobrebs 

waradgenda. ar vici, yovel 

SemTxvevaSi, faqtia, rom misi wardgenebi 

ar xdeboda msgavsi ganxilvebisa 

da aJiotaJis sagani 

da Cveni wardgena gaxda. 

_ Tqven mimarT, erTi mxriv, 

braldebebi ismis, rom Tqven 

xarT monebi, iyaviT saakaSvilis 

monebi da axla xarT biZinas mon- 

ebi, meore mxriv, saubroben 

raRac Zlevamosil klanze. 

_ romelic kunTebs aTamaSebs 

parlamentis winaSe. 

_ bolos da bolos, vin xarT, 

_ monebi Tu monstrebi? 

_ mosamarTleebi varT. 

damoukidebeli saxelisuflebo 

Stos warmomadgenlebi. 

_ eg kanoniTaa ase. 

_ realuradac asea. 

_ mosamarTleebis damoukide- 

blobaze vlaparakobT qveyanaSi, 

sadac amdeni politikuri patimaria?! 

baCo axalaia, roma SamaTava, 

vano merabiSvili, ager kirkitaZe! 

da es xdeba maSin, rodesac 

patimrobidan Tavisuflde- 

ba piri, romelmac jaWviT scema 

Cempions da patimrobaSi rCeba 

kirkitaZe mxolod imitom, rom 

avtobuss atkina _ Seaxta. sa- 

zogadoebas ra ziani miayena am 

SextomiT? da axla winaswar pa- 

timrobaSi rom ar iyos, yvela 

gamvlel-gamomvlel avtobuss 

Seaxteba, Tu im avtobusze, 

rogorc mowmeze, gavlenas iqo- 

niebs da is avtobusi „ityvis”, ar 

Semaxtao? gindaT miTxraT, rom 

im mosamarTlem es gadawyvetile- 

ba damoukideblad miiRo? 

_ Cemi kolegebis mier ganxiluli 

saqmeebis masalebs ase detalurad 

arc vicnob da romc 

vicnobde, mainc ver visaubreb, _ 

arc eTikuri iqneba da kanonic 

mikrZalavs, rom Cemi kolegebis 

mier gamotanili gadawyvetilebebi 

vakritiko. „ipsosis” mier Catarebulma 

kvlevam aCvena, rom gamokiTxulTa 

51% marTlmsajulebis 

sistemis damoukideblobas 

dadebiTad afasebs. kvlevis avtorebi 

calsaxad miuTiTeben, rom 

es monacemi evrokavSiris qveyneb- 

Si Catarebuli msgavsi kvlevebis 

monacemebTan miaxloebulia. 

_ rodesac laparakia kla- 

nurobaze, uTiTeben imasac, rom 

mosamarTleTa es jgufi dakav- 

Sirebulia „qarTuli ocnebis” 

warmomadgenlebTan, kerZod vano 

zardiaSvilTan da rom swored 

am frTasTan iyo SeTanxmebuli 

is siac da maT interesSi iyo 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi Tqveni 

gamweseba. 

_ vano zardiaSvils msgavsi 

berketi arc maSin hqonia da miT 

umetes, arc axla aqvs. misi statusidan 

gamomdinare rom vimsjeloT, 

maSin iuridiul sakiTx- 

Ta komitetis Tavmjdomaris moadgile 

iyo, dRes ki moadgilec 

aRaraa. 

_ gasagebia, argumentad mis 

Tanamdebobas iSveliebT, magram 

minda SegaxsenoT, rom giga bokeria 

swored iuridiuli komite- 

tis Tavmjdomaris moadgile iyo, 

rodesac mTel saxelisuflebo 

vertikals akontrolebda. 

_ akontrolebda? mag Tanamdebobis 

pirobebSic akontrolebda? 

ar vici... ase Rrmad ar viyavi 

Caxeduli, zogadad ki ambobdnen, 

ideologiao, aseTi xmebi dadioda, 

magram egeTi xmebi dResac 

bevri dadis, rom me, magaliTad, 

klanis wevri var da mafiozi. Cven 

mimarT, vinc nominirebulni viyaviT 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi, verc 

erTi saqme ver wamowies iseTi, 

rom romelime Cvengans marTlmsajuleba 

gaemrudebinos, ziani 

mieyenebinos saxelmwifos an mar- 

Tlmsajulebis interesebisTvis. 

mxolod cagurias 10-dRian patimrobas 

maZaxeben da imas, rom 

klani xarTo. mase nebismier 

gunds SegiZlia eZaxo klani. roca 

verafers mouZebni da rom ginda, 

rom misi adgili daikavo, es gundi 

Caanacvlo, klani unda eZaxo. 

yvelas viRacasTan erTad aqvs namuSevari, 

eseni akinZes da amiT manipulireben. 

Tan faqtebs amaxinjeben. 

me 2008 wels daviwye da, 

sadRac, 10 Tve TanaSemwed vmu- 

Saobdi uzenaes sasamarTloSi, 

magram ara im palataSi, romelsac 

CinCalaZe xelmZRvanelobda. Cin- 

CalaZe administraciuli palatis 

Tavmjdomare iyo, me sisxlis samarTlis 

palataSi vmuSaobdi. mxolod 

imis gamo makavSireben da 

macxadeben misi klanis wevrad, 

rom igive wlebSi uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

vmuSaobdi, Tan sxva 

palataSi. rodesac gahkivixar 

klans, an naTesauri kavSiri unda 

iyos, an marTla raRac iseTi axlomegobruli 

kavSiri, qronizmi, 

an proteqcionizmi, romelic sajaro 

interess azaralebs. arc 

erTi, arc meore Cvens SemTxveva- 

Si ar arsebobs. rodesac piradi 

ki ara, sistemis interesebidan gamomdinare, 

profesiuli kvalifikaciis 

niSniT gamoarCev adamians 

da Seni rekomendaciiT xels 

Seuwyob mis dawinaurebas, egaa 

klani? diax, im wlebSi CinCalaZe 

palatis Tavmjdomare iyo, iusticiis 

sabWos wevric iyo. roca 

adamiani fiqrobs sistemaze, rom 

kvalificiuri kadrebiT Seavsos 

igi da dainaxavs, rom sasamarTloSi 

romeliRac TanaSemwe kargad 

muSaobs, rekomendacias uwevs. 

ra aris aq kanonsawinaaRmdego? 

mec gamiwevia rekomendacia 

da gavuwev kidevac, roca ki sadme 

davinaxav niWier da kvalificiur 

adamians, isev da isev, sistemis 

interesebidan gamomdinare. 

_ 3 Tebervals advokatTa aso- 

ciaciam sasamarTlo sistemaSi 

arsebul mdgomareobaze rezo- 

lucia miiRo, romelsac mwvaved 

gamoexmaureT, ganacxadeT, rom 

ukanonoa, dausabuTebeli, arako- 

mpetenturobisa da provokaciis 

nazavi. ratom miiCnevT ase? 

_ advokatTa asociaciaSi 5 

aTasamde advokatia gaerTianebuli, 

im krebas 300-mde kaci eswreboda 

da mTeli advokatebis saxeliT 

rezolucia gamoacxves. 

garda amisa, kanonis Tanaxmad, advokatTa 

asociaciis kreba uflebamosilia, 

Tuki mas 800 advokati 

eswreba. Tu krebas moiwveven da 

800 advokati mainc ar gamocxaddeba, 

maSin 2 kviris vadaSi unda 

moiwvion ganmeorebiTi kreba. ganmeorebiT 

krebaze ukve aRar aqvs 

mniSvneloba, ramdeni mova. is ganmeorebiTi 

kreba ukve uflebamosili 

iqneba, sakiTxebi ganixilos. 

anu jer unda Catardes kreba da 

roca naxaven, rom 800 kaci ar 

irakli kobaxiZe 

gamocxadda, mere unda daniSnon 

ganmeorebiTi kreba. amaT iciT, ra 

qnes? 19 ianvars dRis wesrigi gamoaqveynes 

da Tqves, rom 3 Tebervals 

kreba Catardeba da iqve miagrZeles, 

Tu 800 kaci ar movida, 

imave dRes, erT saaTSi, mowveul 

iqnes ganmeorebiTi krebao. winaswar 

daniSnes ganmeorebiTi krebac, 

romelmac es provokaciuli 

rezolucia miiRo. am rezoluciaSi 

moratoriumis moTxovnas 

ayeneben mosamarTleebis uvadod 

daniSvnaze. moratoriumis iniciatori 

kargad iciT, parlamentSi 

vinc aris, xoda, sanam es kanonproeqti 

daregistrirdeboda, asociaciis 

rezoluciaSi gaCnda es 

moTxovna. yvelaferi kargad miu- 

TiTebs, visgan orkestrirebulicaa 

es procesi. ,,rezoluciis” 

avtori moqmed mosamarTleebs 

pirdapir gvabralebs danaSaulebs, 

Turme, 2012 wlamde Cven politikuri 

niSniT vapatimrebdiT 

xalxs, profesiuli saqmianobis 

gamo masStaburad vdevnidiT advokatebs 

da sxv.; Turme saqarTvelos 

iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi 

dagvimkvidrebia ,,dausabuTebeli, 

aramarTebuli, tendenciuri 

gadawyvetilebebis miRebis” wesi, 

Camogviyalibebia ,,sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi mmarTvelobis mankieri 

forma” da sxva.asociaciis Tavmjdomares 

sakadrisi pasuxi gaveci 

axla dadis da yvelasTan: donorebTan, 

saerTaSoriso organizaciebTan, 

elCebTan. yvelas, 

visac ki xvdeba, imaze saubrobs, 

rom sasamarTlo xelisuflebis 

maRali Tanamdebobis pirebi Tavs 

esxmian advokatTa asociacias. 

Turme, me vesxmi Tavs, raki maT 

provokaciul rezolucias pasuxi 

gaveci. politikuri Sefasebebi 

kidev asatania politikuri 

Zalisgan, magram yovlad miuRebeli 

da dauSvebelia im profesiuli 

jgufisgan, romelic sasamarTloSi 

mxared gamodis! 

_ „feisbukiT” 2010 wels mo- 

mzadebuli dokumenturi filmi 

gaavrceleT, sadac advokatTa 

asociaciis dRevandeli Tavmjdomare, 

daviT asaTiani, sruli- 

ad sawinaaRmdegos amtkicebs, 

rom xalxi endoba sasamarTlos, 

radgan is efeqtianad funqcion- 

irebs, adamianis uflebebs icavs 

da a. S. 

_ diax, Cven ki, misgan da misnairebisgan 

gansxvavebiT, poziciebs 

ar vicvliT da vambobT, rom 

im drosac kanonis moTxovnebs 

vasrulebdiT da axlac igives 

vakeTebT. daviT asaTians pretenzia 

aqvs, rom Turme sasamarTlo 

sistema daxuruli sistemaa da 

advokatebs SesaZlebloba ar 

aqvT, sasamarTlo sistemaSi Semovidnen 

_ mosamarTleebi gaxdnen. 

_ rigiT advokats rom mosa- 

marTleoba undodes, gasagebia, 

rasTanac gvaqvs saqme, mosamarT- 

leoba unda, ver Seswvda da iZu- 

lebis wesiT advokatobs, magram 

ras niSnavs, roca amxela profe- 

siuli gildiis lideri acxadebs 

amas? Tu mosamarTleoba undo- 

da, raRas xdeboda avdokatTa 

asociaciis Tavmjdomare? 

_ diax, egec miuTiTebs mis sxva 

interesebze. 

_ imis Tqma gsurT, rom mas 

TviTon unda uzenaes sasamarT- 

loSi moxvedra da amitom uWers 

mxars moratoriums? 

_ ase vfiqrob! dRes arsebuli 

regulaciebis pirobebSi, uzenaesi 

sasamarTlo tkbili lukmaa 

daviT asaTianisnairi da ana doliZisnairi 

pirebisTvis. es regulacia 

aucileblad Sesacvlelia. ana 

doliZe wardgenilic hyavda uazenaes 

sasamarTloSi margvelaSvils, 

ubralod, parlamentma ar 

airCia, uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomareobac nebavda, ubralod, 

fexi ar Cauvida. regulaciaa 

Sesacvleli, Torem sruli 

pasuxismgeblobiT vambob, nazi 

janezaSvils da ana doliZes arc 

erT konkretul samarTlis darg- 

Si saTanado kvalifikacia ar gaa- 

CniaT, araTu uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

mosamarTled, xaragaulis 

magistrant mosamarTledac rom 

ver gauSveb! 

_ ratom ver gauSveb? 

_ xaragaulis magistrant mosamarTled 

rom adamiani dainiSnos, 

30 wlis unda iyos, 5-wliani 

muSaobis staJi unda hqondes, mosamarTleobis 

sakvalifikacio 

gamocda unda hqondes Cabarebuli, 

iusticiis skolis 10-Tviani 

kursi unda hqondes gavlili, Tu 

sasamarTlos TanamSromelia, ma- 

Sin _ 6-Tviani; gaiaros iusticiis 

sabWos gamocxadebuli konkursi, 

gasaubreba, Sefasdes da amdeni 

wvalebis mere gamwesdes xaragaulis 

magistrant mosamarTled. 

apelaciaSi rom dawinaurdes, 5 

weli mainc unda imuSaos im xaragaulis 

magistrant mosamarTled! 

logikurad, es unda grZeldebodes 

da apelaciis Semdeg, karieruli 

dawinaurebis principiT 

unda dawinaurdes uzenaes sasamarTloSi. 

magram uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

dasaniSn pirs araferi 

msgavsi ar moeTxoveba! arc sakvalifikacio 

gamocdebi, arc iusticiis 

skola, arc instanciebis 

gamovla! aq moxvedra iolia da 

amitomac etanebian daviT asaTianebi 

da ana doliZeebi. amas vgu- 

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asociaciis Tavmjdomares amxels 

nazi janezaSvili 

lisxmobdi tkbil lukmaSi. es 

midgoma aucileblad Sesacvlelia! 

elementarulad, usamarTlobaa, 

xaragaulis magistrant 

mosamarTles imdeni moeTxovebodes 

da uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

wevrs _ araferi msgavsi. es sistema 

Sesacvlelia. 

_ qvemoT aris Sesamsubuqebe- 

li Tu zemoT _ gasamkacrebeli? 

_ gasamkacrebelia zemoT. qvemoT 

rac aris standarti, kargia, 

imitom rom mosamarTlem zustadac 

unda iwvalo, rom mosamar- 

Tle gaxde, ase advili ar unda 

iyos asaTianisnairebisTvis, rom 

pirdapir Tavze moasxdnen sistemas. 

kriteriumebi mkacri unda 

iyos. rodesac kandidatTa sias 

vakompleqtebdiT, swored karieruli 

dawinaurebis es principi 

gvqonda aRebuli. mTel msoflioSi 

miRebuli principia, rom 

qvemdgomi instanciis sasamarTlodan 

avides da uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

dawinaurdes da ara 

naxtomiT, pirdapir quCidan uzenaes 

sasamarTloSi. am karieruli 

kibis gverdis avliT, mxolod 

aRiarebuli mecnierebi SeiZleba 

dainiSnon gamonaklisi wesiT, magaliTad, 

sergo jorbenaZis rangis 

iuristebi da ara ana doliZis 

an nazi janezaSvilis rangis. 

_ swored margvelaSvilis ase, 

sauzmeze daniSnul nino gvenetaZeze 

minda gkiTxoT, romel- 

mac, Tavis droze, sazogadoeba 

Rirsadac ar Caagdo, wesierad 

aexsna gadadgomis mizezi. saer- 

Tod, ra iyo misi aqtivi, roca 

is uzenaesis Tavmjdomared daw- 

inaurda? mxolod is, rom, Tavis 

droze, saakaSvilma wixliT gaag- 

do sistemidan? 

_ ver getyviT... gvenetaZe uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos yofili mosamarTle 

iyo da mas namdvilad 

hqonda Sesabamisi kvalifikacia, 

magram ver getyviT, ra iyo misi 

am Tanamdebobaze gamwesebis 

safuZveli. ra iyo misi iq gamwesebis 

politikuri mizani. samwuxarod, 

gvenetaZem mosamarTleebs 

Soris ver moipova verc avtoriteti, 

verc mxardaWera, rac unda 

hqonoda pirvel pirs. misi poziciebi 

Zalian xSirad TanxvedraSi 

iyo arasamTavrobo seqtoris im 

poziciebTan, romelic CvenTvis 

miuRebelia da es gaxldaT Cveni 

uTanxmoebis mizezic. SemiZlia 

vTqva, rom igi mniSvnelovanwilad 

gamoxatavda arasamTavrobo seqtoris 

interesebs sasamarTlo 

xelisuflebaSi, erTi garkveuli 

politikuri partiis, kerZod, 

respublikuri partiis interessac. 

SegaxsenebT, ra mdgomareoba 

iyo 2015 wels: parlamentis Tavmjdomare 

gaxldaT daviT usufaSvili, 

Tavdacvis ministri iyo 

Tina xidaSeli, prezidenti _ margvelaSvili... 

daviT usufaSvili 

da Tina xidaSeli saidan modian, 

gvaxsovs, isic, _ nino gvenetaZe 

saidan modis. garkveul wlebSi 

gvenetaZe axalgazrda iuristTa 

asociaciis Tavmjdomare iyo. 

_ axla Tqven zustad igive 

principiT saubrobT maTze, ra 

principiTac arasamTavroboebi 

gacxadeben klanad: „es iq muSaob- 

da, esec aq muSaobda”. mag princ- 

ipiT, me sad, romel gazeTSic ki 

mimuSavia, im gazeTebis redaqto- 

rebis klanis wevri viyavi an var? 

_ Cven ar Semogvitania es standarti, 

arasamTavroboebma Semoitanes 

da daamkvidres urTierTobebSi. 

ar vambob magas, isini amboben. 

_ SabaTis kurierSi mosa- 

marTleebis sasaxleebi vnaxeT. 

saubari iyo Tqvens qonebazec. 

iTqva, rom deklaraciiT mxolod 

45 kv.m. binas flobT gldanSi, 

aCvenes orsarTuliani saxlic 

zemo bulaCaurSi. rogorc mo- 

gvianebiT gairkva, Tqven ar gamoricxavT, 

rom uCivloT tele- 

kompania „rusTavi 2-s”, ratom? 

_ imitom, rom es iyo ciliswamebis 

axali niaRvari mosamarTleebis 

mimarT. im sazoga- 

ana doliZe 

doebaSi, sadac mosaxleobis 

udides nawils uWirs, socialurad 

daucvelia, aRizianeben maT 

am qonebis CvenebiT. imas aravin 

arkvevs, rom mosamarTle ma- 

RalanazRaurebadia, didi Semosavali 

aqvs da SeuZlia, bankidan 

krediti gamoitanos da manamde 

arsebul qonebas Sematos, SeiZinos, 

gaaremontos, aaSenos. saxli, 

romelic maT aCvenebs, papaCemis, 

dimitri gvritiSvilis mieraa aSenebuli. 

orsarTuliania, ki, namdvilad 

didi saxlia, papaCems 3 

Svili hyavda da fiqrobda, rom 

yvela iq icxovrebda. 300 kvadratuli 

metri farTisaa. miwis 

nakveTi 3600 kvadratuli metria. 

SarSan gadavwyviteT misi garemonteba, 

saxuravic Sesacvleli 

iyo. mama umuSevaria, kredits 

aravin miscemda. saxli me maCuqa, 

28 500 lari krediti aviRe, nawiliT 

wina krediti gadavfare, 

darCenili 21 aTasi lariT saxuravi 

gamovcvaleT, Sidarekonstruqcia 

gavakeTeT, oTaxebi gadavtixreT, 

SevleseT, gavaremonteT. 

samwliani krediti aviRe, 

kidev or weliwadze meti unda 

vixado. yovelTviurad xelfasidan 

970 lari meWreba. Cemi 

mSoblebi Citaias quCaze, oro- 

Taxian, barakuli tipis saxlSi 

cxovroben, italiur ezoSi. me da 

Cemi ojaxi quTaisSi vcxovrobT, 

radgan iq var mosamarTled gamwesebuli. 

rodesac TbilisSi CamovdivarT, 

xan Cems mSoblebTan 

vCerdebiT ojaxiT, xan _ Cemi meuRlis 

mSoblebis saxlSi. im gldanis 

binaSi ki, romelic Cems sakuTrebad 

gamoacxades, Cemi yofili 

meuRle cxovrobs, Cems SvilebTan 

erTad, swored Cemi vaJis 

da ara Cems saxelzea is bina registrirebuli. 

Cems saxelzea 2001 

wlis „toiota vici”, romelic 

Cems yofil meuRles davutove da 

jerac ver movaxerxe, misTvis gadameformebina. 

sul es aris dimitri 

gvritiSvilis qoneba. 

pativs vcemT saxelmwifo institutebs da kanons! 

mamuka xazaraZis gancxadeba 

dRes Cven SevikribeT, raTa sazogadoebas, 

Cvens partniorebs, aqcionerebs, 

TanamSromlebs da yvela dainteresebul 

mxares gacnoboT, rom varT Zlieri 

finansuri instituti, Zlieri, Sekruli 

gundi da erTad vdgavarT ambiciuri 

miznebis misaRwevad. 

pirvel rigSi gvinda, xazgasmiT vTqvaT, 

rom pativs vcemT saxelmwifo institutebsa 

da kanons. 

„Tibisis” daarsebis dRidan Cvens 

Rirebulebebs warmoadgens gamWvirvaloba, 

patiosneba da kanonmorCileba. 

rogorc TqvenTvis cnobilia, „Tibisi 

bankma” sasamarTloSi gaasaCivra 11 

wlis winandel saqmeze regulatoris 

gamotanili yvela gadawyvetileba. 

velodebiT marTlmsajulebas. 

miuxedavad amisa, Cven mzad varT, 

dialogis reJimSi ganvagrZoT erovnul 

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bankTan erTad am situaciidan gamosavlis 

Zieba, rom Tavidan aviciloT potenciuri 

negatiuri zegavlena qveynis 

sainvesticio garemosa da, zogadad, 

saqarTvelos ekonomikaze. 

rac Seexeba prokuraturis gamoZiebas 

fulis gaTeTrebis muxliT, kategoriulad 

uarvyofT aseTi faqtis arsebobas. 

Cven yvela saWiro dokumenti gadaveciT 

Sesabamis organoebs, rac ase- 

Ti danaSaulis ararsebobas cxadyofs. 

amasTan, maRali sajaro interesebis 

gamo, gvinda aRvniSnoT, rom ukve am 

faqtis garSemo yvela masala gadagzavnilia 

Cvens partniorebTan, saerTa- 

Soriso safinanso institutebTan. 

mocemul sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT Cven 

ukve gvaqvs saerTaSoriso iuridiuli 

firma „dentsonis” daskvna, sadac mkafiod 

aris aRniSnuli, rom am tranzaqciebs 

araTu fulis gaTeTrebasTan, 

aramed sabanko regulaciasTan, interesTa 

konfliqtis maSindeli normebis 

darRvevasTanac ki kavSiri ar aqvs. 

mzad varT, saerTaSoriso iuridiuli 

kompaniis ukve Cvens xelT arsebuli iuridiuli 

daskvna, aseve 2007-2008 wlebis 

am konkretuli tranzaqciebis Sesaxeb informacia 

gavuziaroT yvela dainteresebul 

mxares, parlamentis Sesabamis komitetebs, 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebs, 

diplomatiuri korpusis warmomadgenlebs 

da sxva Sesabamis pirebs. 

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`xelisuflebam upirobod unda aRiaros klanis arseboba!~ 

iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos 

levan qemokliZe 

wevri, nazi janezaSvili, miiCnevs, 

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rom sasamarTloebSi mosamarTleebis 

uvadod daniSvnis kanon- 

proeqti unda SeCerdes da xelisuflebas mouwodebs, sistema- 

Si arsebuli problemebiT dainteresdes. ra gamowvevis winaSe 

dgas qveynis sasamarTlo sistema? arian Tu ara sistemaSi 

arsebuli mosamarTleebi mzad pasuxismgeblobisTvis? ra sa- 

frTxis winaSe dgas samarTlianobis damkvidrebis molodinSi 

qarTuli saxelmwifo? 

am da sxva Temebze „qronika+~ 

nazi janezaSvils esaubreba: 

_ qalbatono nazi, ratom ar 

uWerT mxars mosamarTleTa uvadod 

daniSvnis kanonproeqts? Sei- 

Zleba iTqvas, mosamarTleebis uvadod 

daniSvnis procesma sazoga- 

doebis nawili orad gaxliCa da 

TvalSisacemia is dapirispirebac, 

rac mmarTvel gundSi SeiniSneba. 

ra xarvezebs xedavT da vin arian 

e. w. klanis wevrebi? faqtia, rom 

2016 wlis noembridan dRemde 146 

mosamarTle uvadod dainiSna. 

_ 146 mosamarTles uvadod 

daniSnuli kidev 8 mosamarTle 

daemata. reaqcia cota dagvianebulia, 

magram sjobs gvian... 

samwuxarod, sasamarTlo sistemaSi 

Zalian bevr problemas vxedavT 

da xelisuflebam es aucileblad 

unda gaacnobieros. mmar- 

Tveloba da Zalaufleba iusticiis 

umaRles sabWoSi arakeTilsindisier 

xalxs aqvs, maT mxolod 

sakuTari interesebi amoZravebT. 

iusticiis umaRles sabWoSi gavleniani 

jgufis nawilia warmodgenili. 

bunebrivia, srulad am dajgufebis 

wevrebi sabWoSi ver iqnebian, 

radgan mxolod 8 wevrs ir- 

Cevs mosamarTleTa konferencia. 

isini yvela mniSvnelovan sakiTxze 

erT azrze arian. weliwadze metia, 

sabWos wevri var da amas vxedav _ 

kamaTsac Tavad iwyeben da Tu ar 

iwyeben, pasuxebi erT xmaSi aqvT. 

mixeil CinCalaZe sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi erT-erTi yvelaze gavleniani 

piria, ase iyo kublaSvilis 

drosac, anu sistemaSi araferi 

Secvlila, arc gvarebi da arc mar- 

Tvis sistema. kublaSvilis Tavmjdomareobisas 

mixeil CinCalaZe 

misi moadgile iyo. rodesac „tabulam” 

cnobili foto gamoaqveyna, 

iq Zalian kargad Candnen klanis 

wevrebi: mixeil CinCalaZe, valeri 

cercvaZe, levan murusiZe, giorgi 

miqautaZe da vano zardiaSvili. am 

adamianebis xelSia Zalaufleba 

sasamarTlo sistemaSi da swored 

am saxelebisa da gvarebis arseboba 

xels uSlis mosamarTleebis 

obieqturad daniSvnas, rac imis 

safuZvelia, rom sasamarTlo sistemaSi 

korufciaa. 

aseT pirobebSi uvado daniSvna 

da sxva nebismieri progresuli 

idea uSedego iqneba. uvado daniSvnebis 

sistema aris gaumarTavi da 

SesaZleblobas aZlevs sabWos, Tavisi 

survilisamebr miiRos gadawyvetileba. 

es sistema ar iZleva SesaZleblobas, 

adamianis realuri kvalifikacia 

da keTilsindisiereba 

Semowmdes. 

CemTvis miuRebelia, roca mosamarTleTa 

uvado daniSvna iseTi 

adamianebis xelSia, romlebsac sakuTari 

interesebi amoZravebT. 

_ konkretulad ra gaZlevT 

imis Tqmis safuZvels, rom sistemaSi 

korufciis savaraudo riske- 

bi arsebobs? 

_ sasamarTlo sistemaSi konkretuli 

dajgufebis arseboba. maT 

xelSia yvelaferi, _ es ukve eWvis 

sababia. 

bunebrivia, korufcias veravin 

gamoavlens, Tu es xelisuflebam 

ar moindoma. 

_ rogoria eka beselias roli 

sasamarTlo sistemaSi mosalod- 

nel cvlilebebze? is Tanagun- 

delebs daupirispirda... 

_ eka beselia didxans Tanam- 

Sromlobda am xalxTan da mere ra 

moxda, ar vici... es ukve politikur 

procesebs ukavSirdeba. raRac 

eWvebi maqvs da rodesac dro mova, 

am yvelaferze aucileblad visaubreb. 

_ mmarTveli partia, iseve 

rogorc Tavad es mosamarTleebi, 

xSirad iSvelieben statistikas, 

romelic sasamarTlo sistemaSi 

ganxorcielebul pozitiur cv- 

lilebebze migvaniSnebs. Tqven- 

Tvis maTi argumentebi ramdenad 

yuradsaRebia? 

_ aseT pozitiur cvlilebebze 

adre kublaSvilic saubrobda. rac 

Seexeba dRevandel siaxleebs, es 

erTaderTia _ saqmeTa eleqtronuli 

gadanawileba, romlis ideac 

Semdeg ukve mokles sabWos wevrebma 

da getyviT, ratomac: es sistema 

dainerga, TiTqmis erT welze 

metia, infrastruqtura amuSavda, 

magram ra gakeTda?.. jer kidev eka 

beselia iyo iuridiuli komitetis 

Tavmjdomare, rodesac kanonSi 

Caiwera, rom saapelacio sasamarTloebSi 

viwro specializacia iqmneba, 

gakeTda zogadi Canaweri kanonSi 

da amis Semdeg iusticiis 

umaRlesma sabWom gadawyvetileba 

miiRo, konkretul dargebSi ramdeni 

mosamarTle imuSavebs. magaliTad: 

saojaxo, samewarmeo, saavtoro 

uflebebze davebi da sxvadasxva 

Seqmnili viwro specializacia, 

sadac mosamarTleTa raodenoba 

daviwrovda, anu Sen rom midixar 

sasamarTloSi da ggonia, saqme 

SemTxveviTobis principiT gadanawildeba 

40 mosamarTles Soris, yvelaferi 

sxvagvarad aris. es Sei- 

Zleba didi problema arc iyos, magram 

sxva problemasTan mivdivarT. 

sabWom Tavisive gadawyvetilebiT 

daadgina, rom mixeil CinCalaZem 

gansazRvros viwro specializaciebSi 

mosamarTleTa Semadgenloba, 

_ Tu sami adamiani imuSavebs 

samewarmeo davebSi, mixeil Cin- 

CalaZes am SemTxvevaSi SeuZlia 

gansazRvros, romeli sami mosamar- 

Tle iqneba da mas SeuZlia aseve es 

gadawyvetileba nebismier dros 

erTpirovnulad Secvalos. 

_ ratom aris problema im mosamarTleebis 

sasamarTlo siste- 

maSi moRvaweoba, romelTa mimarT 

xelisuflebis cvlilebamde miR- 

ebul gadawyvetilebebSi kiTxvis 

niSnebi arsebobs? irakli kobaxiZis 

TqmiT, mosamarTleebi, rom- 

lebic adre cud raRacebs akeTebdnen, 

axla karg raRacebs akeTe- 

ben. 

_ Svidi weli gavida, rac xelisufleba 

Seicvala da velodebodiT, 

rom es mosamarTleebi uke- 

Tesebi gaxdebodnen. mada WamaSi 

modiso da mosamarTleebs mada 

gaexsnaT. aqamde Tu isini davalebebis 

Semsrulebeli mosamarTleebi 

iyvnen, dRes pirobebs aqeT gviyeneben, 

_ Cven mosamarTleebi varT 

da unda gvemsaxuroTo. 

kobaxiZis gancxadeba araseriozulia! 

mesmis, raRac etapze, mudmivad 

ver viqnebiT brZolebSi, rom 

roca xelisufleba Seicvleba, mosamarTleebic 

mudmivad vcvaloT, 

magram Tu xelisuflebam aqamde ar 

miiRo gadawyvetileba am mosamarTleebis 

Secvlis Sesaxeb, arc 

is gadawyvetileba unda mieRo, rom 

es klani gaeZlierebina. 

_ rogor fiqrobT, ratom wav- 

ida xelisufleba am riskze? 

_ erTmaneTi sWirdebaT. 

ver davijereb am mosamarTleebis 

gamosworebas. es adamianebi, 

faqtobrivad, jalaTebad iqcnen 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi, maT ar aRelvebdaT 

adamianis uflebebi. Tavad 

davdiodi mravali weli cixeebSi 

da piradad myavs is patimrebi 

nanaxi, romlebic mkacri sasjelis 

gamo wlebi itanjebodnen. es 

mosamarTleebi adamianebs cixeSi 

daundoblad uSvebdnen da davalebebs 

asrulebdnen. imis nacvlad, 

rom bodiSi moixadon, dRes pretenziebi 

aqvT, uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

uvadod dainiSnon. 

ojaxebi gaaubedures, eseni ki 

TavianT karieras uvadod ikeTeben 

_ es ubedurebaa! aranairi reforma 

ar gamova, roca sasamarTlo 

CinCalaZis xelSia! 

2012 wlis Semdeg sistemaSi garedan 

mxolod 17 axali adamiani mivida. 

danarCeni, Tu vinme axali 

mosamarTle dainiSna, maTi gamozrdilia: 

TanaSemwe, mdivani an specialisti. 

mosamarTlebis 75% igive 

xalxia sistemaSi, rogor davijero, 

rom isini kargebi gaxdnen?!. 

_ rogor fiqrobT, ras gamoi- 

wvevs xelisuflebis cvlileba 

àranairi 

reforma ar 

gamova, roca 

sasamarTlo 

CinCalaZis 

xelSia!~ 

amgvari sasamarTlo korpusis 

pirobebSi? 

_ rac Seexeba xelisuflebis 

cvlilebas an Tu arsebulma xelisuflebam 

politika Secvala da 

gadawyvita, aRar gvqondes liberaluri 

sisxlis samarTlis politika 

da mkacri nulovani tolerantoba 

gvWirdeba romelic ukve gamocxadebuli 

gvqonda aqamde, darwmunebuli 

var, mosamarTleebi 

isev Seasruleben davalebebs. 

es xalxi ar zrunavs marTlmsajulebaze, 

jansaRi dialogis unaric 

ar gaaCniaT, sabWoSic mudam 

wivil-kivilia. msjeloba ar Seu- 

ZliaT, araarsebiT sakiTxebze saubroben 

mxolod. 

Tu kargi sasamarTlo ginda, 

maSin ratom upirispirdebi progresul 

ideebs? marto uvado mantiaze 

zrunaven. xelisufleba ki 

`lamazad msjelobis dro aRar aris da arc 

saxis SenarCunebis droa, axla ukve yvelaferi 

zedapirze devs, yvelam viciT, vin vin aris. am 

xalxma naZaladevad waradgina 10-kaciani sia 

samarcxvinod. procesebma warmoaCina, rom 

isini araferze daixeven ukan, oRond Tavad 

dainiSnon Tanamdebobebze~ 

dums. 

_ ra unda gaakeTos xelisu- 

flebam? 

_ xelisuflebam upirobod 

unda aRiaros klanis arseboba! 

aTamde Sexvedras veswrebodi, 

samuSao jgufSi wamodgenili iyo 

parlamenti da saministroebic, 

aseve saerTaSoriso organizaciebi, 

yvela vmsjelobdiT, ra unda 

gagvekeTebina... es periodi ukve gaviareT, 

roca erT magidasTan visxediT 

gvritiSvilebTan da am adamianebTan 

erTad, rogori kanonproeqti 

gvindoda disciplinuri 

samarTalwarmoebisTvis. lamazad 

msjelobis dro aRar aris da arc 

saxis SenarCunebis droa, axla ukve 

yvelaferi zedapirze devs, yvelam 

viciT, vin vin aris. am xalxma naZaladevad 

waradgina 10-kaciani sia 

samarcxvinod. procesebma warmoaCina, 

rom isini araferze daixeven 

ukan, oRond Tavad dainiSnon 

Tanamdebobebze. xelisuflebam bolo 

samuSao Sexvedraze me da ana 

doliZe migviwvia, magram davtoveT, 

radgan Tamar alania da nino 

qadagiZe dagvisves magidasTan, romlebic 

Tavad iyvnen kandidatebi. 

warmogidgeniaT?! sabWos sxdomaze 

roca davasaxeleT, maSin ar mosulan 

(Tumca me ar damisaxelebia). 

Turme Tamar alaniasTan erTad 

unda vimsjelo, rogori procedura 

ufro kargia uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

mosamarTlis SesarCevad. 

_ ra formiT unda aRiaros 

xelisuflebam klanis arseboba? 

_ pirvel rigSi, unda warmova- 

CinoT, kargad vin arian. yvelafers 

vakeTeb amisTvis. am klanis aRiareba 

sabaziso da fundamenturi mniSvnelobisaa, 

amis gareSe verafers 

gavakeTebT. 

didi roli aqvs parlamentsa da 

iusticiis saministros, maT unda 

ikisron pasuxismgebloba. 

axla davubrundeT uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

kandidaturebs: bolo 

periodSi xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs 

vakvirdebi da diskusia 

iqiTken midis, rom sia unda Seicvalos, 

romelic saqarTvelos parlaments 

waredgina. 

Tu Cven aqcents isev moqmed 

mosamarTleebze gavakeTebT, es 

damRupveli iqneba, radgan moqmedi 

mosamarTleebi ise ver Sevlen 

siaSi, CinCalaZis testi rom ar 

hqondeT gavlili. adamiani, romelic 

jer CinCalaZis kabinetSi Seva 

da mere mova sabWoSi parlamentSi 

warsadgenaT, aseTi kandidati CemTvis 

miuRebelia. es kosmetikuri 

ideaa. 

_ Tu es procesi ar SeCerda, 

rogor apirebT brZolas samar- 

Tliani sasamarTlos sistemisT- 

vis? 

_ gaCerebas ar vapirebT. 

_ xom ar migvaniSnebT, rom, 

savaraudod, protesti quCaSi ga- 

dainacvlebs? 

_ konkretuls verafers getyviT, 

Tumca Zalian male Ria gancxadebas 

gavakeTebT. im jgufebis 

konsolidacias vapirebT, romelTa 

interesic sistemis Secvlaa. 

aqamde veridebodiT amaze saubars, 

radgan gadaWarbebuli an xmamaRali 

naTqvami megona. sabWom da 

am xalxma migviyvana im azramde, 

rom ar unda dainiSnon moqmedi 

mosamarTleebi uzenaes sasamarTloSi. 

uvado daniSvnebi unda gaCerdes! 

parlamentma rogorme Tavis 

TavSi unda ipovos Zala da resursi, 

Secvalos kanoni, Tundac konstitucia, 

radgan uvado daniSvnebi 

kritikas ver uZlebs. murusiZis 

daniSvna usamarTlobis magaliTia. 

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2018 wlis TebervalSi kojor- 

Si, kakauriZeebis ezoSi, 29 wlis guram kvezerelis dabetoneb- 

uli cxedari ipoves. 


gamoZiebis versiiT, deda-Svil 

kvezerelebis mkvleloba 12 000 

$-is gamo moxda. guram kvezereli 

2014 wlis 17 dekembers damna- 

Saveebma kojorSi motyuebiT aiyvanes, 

civi iaraRiT mravlobiTi 

Wriloba miayenes da cxedari kasriT 

dafles. amis Semdeg damna- 

Saveebi guram kvezerelis dedis, 

natos ojaxSi mividnen, deda mokles, 

binidan fuli, guram kvezerelis 

saxelze gaformebuli ori 

cecxlsasroli iaraRi, kompiuteri 

da moklulis piradi nivTebi 

waiRes. 

mkvlelobis saqmeze giorgi 

yufaraZes da vasil goSaZes wauyenes 

brali. yufaraZe im momentisTvis 

qveynidan gaqceuli iyo, 

vasil goSaZe ki sasjels narkotikebis 

realizaciisTvis ixdida. 

sad da ra viTarebaSi daakaves 

interpoliT Zebnili giorgi yufaraZe 

saberZneTSi, amaze qvemoT 

dawvrilebiT mogiyvebiT, manamde 

ki saintereso detalebi misi biografiidan: 

gamoZiebis versiiT, yufaraZe 

warsulSi ramdenjermea nasamar- 

tova. 

amis Semdeg oficialurad 

yufaraZis kvali ikargeba, magram 

Cveni wyaro ambobs, rom is radioaqtiuri 

nivTierebebis yidva-gayidvisa 

da kontrabandis faqtebze 

isev muSaobda da swored am dros 

gadaikveTa misi da guram kvezerelis 

kvali, _ es ukanasknelic radioaqtiuri 

nivTierebebis realizaciis 

faqtebiT interesdeboda 

da ramdenime gancxadebac ki hqonda 

ganTavsebuli internetsivrceSi 

wiTel vercxliswyalTan 

dakavSirebiT. igive wyaro imasac 

ambobs, rom giorgi yufaraZem seriozuli 

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gamosavlenad, aqac seriozul 

kvalze gavida, kvezereli 

gadmoibira da TanamSromlobaze 

daiTanxma, magram informaciam 

gaJona da kvezereli im xalxma 

moiSora Tavidan, romelsac gaSifvris 

SeeSinda. gvami ki swored 

igive xelweriT daabetones, rogorc 

Zmebi hasanovebi. maTve kvalis 

dafarvis mizniT, saxlidan 

kvezerelis kompiuteri (sadac 

is qveynidan midis da rogorc 

mogvianebiT gairkva, saberZneTSi 

slovakeTis moqalaqe miroslav 

pohlodkovis (Miroslav Pohlodkov) 

saxeliT saxldeba. 2016 wels man 

TxovniT mimarTa saberZneTis xelisuflebas 

TavSesafris miRebaze. 

Trakes TavSesafris miniWebis 

periferiul ganyofilebaSi giorgi 

yufaraZis Txovnas orjer 

uariT upasuxes. gasaubrebidan 

ramdenime dReSi giorgi yufa- 

guli gauCerda da marTviT sun- 

Tqvaze gadaiyvanes. sami Tvis ganmavlobaSi 

misi mdgomareoba ukiduresad 

mZime iyo, araerTi analizis 

miuxedavad, misi Sokur 

mdgomareobamde miyvanis realuri 

mizezi ver dadginda, verc er- 

Tma laboratoriulma da klinikurma 

eqspertizam ver daadginda 

filtvis masiuri embolia. 

samedicino daskvnaSi berZeni 

eqimebi weren, rom arsebobs bev- 

misma navarjiSebma sxeulma am mZime 

mowamvlas gauZlo, Semdeg 

ukve uSiSroebis ganyofilebaSi 

daabezRes, rom saqarTveloSi 

misi eqstradireba momxdariyo, 

sadac yufaraZes gansakuTrebuli 

sisastikiT Cadenili deda-Svil 

kvezerelebis mkvlelobisTvis 

ukve eZebdnen. 

qarTuli gamoZiebis masalebis 

mixedviT, narkotikebis realizaciisTvis 

dakavebulma vasil goS- 

xmauriani sasamarTlo procesi 

mZafrsiuJetiani filmis epizodebiT 

Tlevi, maT Soris, mkvlelobisTvis. 

2004 wels svaneTis uban- 

Si man Zmebi, saqarTveloSi azerbaijanidan 

manqanis SesaZenad Camosuli 

ilxam da raxim hasanovebi 

mokla, Semdeg ki naqiravebi saxlis 

ezoSi Caabetona. swored am 

droidan Searqves mas metsaxelad 

„betona”. 

vin aris giorgi yufaraZe? 

„qronika+~-is wyaros informaciiT, 

igi kargad momzadebuli 

specrazmelia, romelic sxvadasxva 

dros ucxoeTis araerT misiasa 

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monawileobda. bolos is oficialurad 

kontrteroristuli 

centris TanamSromeli iyo da radioaqtiuri 

nivTierebebis ukanono 

realizaciisa da kontrabandis 

faqtebze muSaobda. 


2004 wels is kvalSi Caudga 

saqarTvelos gavliT radioaqtiuri 

nivTierebis kontrabandis 

did partias. cxadia, am kontrabandas 

Zalovan uwyebaSi seriozuli 

mfarvelebi hyavda da kargad 

informirebuli giorgi yufaraZe 

gzidan CamoiSores _ TbilisSi 

azerbaijanidan Camosuli Zmebis 

mkvleloba ahkides. Cveni wyaro 

ambobs, rom azerbaijaneli Zmebi 

ilxam da raxim hasanovebi, realurad, 

TbilisSi ara manqanis sayidlad, 

aramed Semotanili narkotikebis 

realizaciidan fulis 

asaRebad iyvnen Camosulebi da 

isini, swored, kurierma da „kri- 

Sam” moiciles Tavidan, mkvlelobisTvis 

ki yufaraZe daapatimres. 

man sasjelis didi nawili moixada, 

nawili ki amnistiis Sedegad 

Seumsubuqda da sapatimroc da- 

giorgi yufaraZis 

saqmes nafici 

msajulebi ganixilaven 

mimowera da komunikaciis sxva 

detalebi inaxeboda) da bed gadaxdili 

Tanxa waiRes. 

deda-Svil kvezerelebis mkvleloba 

2014 wlis Semdeg gauxsneli 

iyo, cixidan gamosvlis Semdeg 

ki giorgi yufaraZes erTerTma 

maRalCinosanma daureka da 

saswrafod qveynis datoveba mosTxova 

(am maRalCinosnis gvaris 

dasaxelebas yufaraZe sasamarTlo 

procesze sajarod apirebs). 

raZe, umZimes mdgomareobaSi, savaraudod, 

mowamluli, aleqsandrupolis 

sauniversiteto mravalprofilian 

saavadmyofoSi 

saswrafoTi komatozur mdgomareobaSi 

miiyvanes, Zalian dabali 

arteriuli wneviT da mZime respiratoruli 

ukmarisobiT, cianoziT 

_ mwvave respiratoruli 

acinozi (winasasikvdilo mdgomareoba), 

_ aseTi iyo berZeni eqimebis 

winaswari diagnozi. pacients 

rnairi Sxami an mZime toqsikuri 

minerali, romelsac SeuZlia, adamiani 

sasikvdilo mdgomareobamde 

miiyvanos. klinikuri simptomebis 

gagrZelebac amis damatebi- 

Ti damadasturebelia. sabolood, 

berZenma eqimebma daaskvnes, 

rom giorgi yufaraZe, savaraudod, 

mowamlulia ucnobi nivTierebiT, 

romelmac igi winasasikvdilo 

mdgomareobamde miiyvana da 

swored amitom iyo hospitalizebuli 

ori Tvis ganmavlobaSi. 

berZenma eqimebma giorgi yufaraZis 

gadarCena SeZles, magram 

misi hospitalSi yofnisas kidev 

erTi ucnauri faqti xdeba: 2016 

wels aleqsandrupolis uSiSroebis 

qveganyofilebaSi gamocxadda 

aTenSi mcxovrebi piri, ivane mititanidi 

(IVANE MITITANIDI) da maT 

informacia miawoda imis Sesaxeb, 

rom intensiuri Terapiis centr- 

Si moTavsebuli pacienti ara 

slovakeTis moqalaqe miroslav 

pohlodkovi, aramed qarTveli 

giorgi yufaraZea. saidan SeiZleboda 

hqonoda es informacia 

uSiSroebis konkretul TanamSromels? 

mowamvlamde yufaraZes, 

igive pohlodkovs, saberZneTis 

kanonmdeblobasTan problemebi 

ar hqonia, mSvidad cxovrobda da 

mcire bizness eweoda, tovebda 

qveyanas da brundeboda, arc 

erTxel moxvedrila berZnuli 

policiis TvalTaxedvis areSi. 


giorgi yufaraZe, romelic 

Zalian mniSvnelovani informaciis 

matarebelia, radgan is 

kontrteroristuli centris TanamSromeli 

da specmomzadeba 

gavlili specagenti iyo, saberZneTSi 

jer mowamles, da radgan 

aZem, romelsac samudamo patimroba 

emuqreboda, gamoZiebasTan 

iTanamSromla da guram kvezerelis 

mkvlelobis faqti aRiara, 

manve miuTiTa adgili, sadac kvezereli 

iyo damarxuli. TiTqos 

am faqtSi ucnauri araferia, rom 

ara ori mniSvnelovani kiTxva: 

goSaZem mkvleloba 18 aprils 

aRiara, saberZneTis klinikaSi ki 

uSiSroebaSi damsmeni winaswar, 

anu 5 aprils mivida ganacxadiT, 

rom pacienti mkvlelobisTvis 

Zebnili giorgi yufaraZe iyo. da 

meore: ratom gadawyvita yufaraZem 

guram kvezerelis gvamis 

damarxva da dabetoneba kojor- 

Si, sakuTari saxlis ezoSi, roca 

misi saxls ukan TiTqmis gauvali 

tyea da damarxuli gvamis povna, 

faqtobrivad, SeuZlebeli iqneboda? 

rogorc gveubnebian, narkotikebis 

realizaciisTvis dakavebuli 

vasil goSaZe, romelsac 

ocwliani patimroba emuqreboda, 

mkvlelobis aRiarebis mere Tavisufalia. 

saqarTvelos prokuraturis 

moTxovniT, deda-Svil 

kvezerelebis ganzrax mkvlelobaSi 

meore braldebul giorgi 

yufaraZis eqstradireba saqarTveloSi 

2018 wlis dekemberSi 

ganxorcielda. 

patimari amJamad qarTul cixeSi 

elodeba sasamarTlo procesis 

dawyebas. Cveni wyaros informaciiT, 

man moiTxova, misi saqme 

naficma msajulebma ganixilon 

da, am etapze, swored msajulebis 

SerCevis procesi mimdinareobs. 

saqmis arsebiTi ganxilva, rogorc 

Cans, Zalian saintereso da 

skandaluri iqneba. 

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gega silagava 

qarTul politikaSi mimdinare procesebisa da yoveldRiuri 

politSouebis miRma rCeba uamravi sakiTxi, romlis Sesaxeb TviT 

politikosebic ki ar msjeloben, xolo qarTul sazogadoebas 

es procesebi umniSvnelod miaCnia. xiluli Tu uxilavi poli- 

tikuri procesebis emociuri Sefasebebi ki is mojadoebuli wrea, 

romelzedac damoukideblobis mopovebis Semdeg davdivarT. 

swored aseTi sakiTxebis did 

mniSvnelobaze „qronika+” istorikossa 

da Jurnalist daviT gam- 

cemliZes esaubra: 

_ yoveldRiurobaSi Caflul 

qarTul sazogadoebas xSirad ise- 

Ti Temebi rCeba yuradRebis miR- 

ma, rom gulwrfel gancvifrebas 

iwvevs. saubari afxazeTis sakiTx- 

iT da rkinigzis TemiT daviwyoT, 

ra xdeba yuradRebis miRma dar- 

Cenili umniSvnelovanesi Temebis 

irgvliv? miT ufro, rom yvela 

mxaris pozicia sainteresoa. 

_ „rkinigzis Temis” irgvliv Zalian 

rTuli TamaSi mimdinareobs. 

davazustebdi, rom es imdenad 

„rkinigzis gaxsnis” sakiTxi ar 

aris, ramdenadac saxmeleTo tranzitisa 

„erevani-Tbilisi-soWis” da 

„erevani-Tbilisi-vladikavkazis” 

mimarTulebiT. 

samwuxarod, socialuri fsiqologiis 

TaviseburebaTa gaTvaliswinebiT 

verc sazogadoeba da verc 

media ver amCnevs, rom „afxazeTis 

rkinigza” mxolod evfemizmia, realurad 

ki, orive SemTxvevaSi, saubaria 

saavtomobilo gadazidvebze. 

afxazeTis mimarTulebiT ufro 

metadac ki, vidre cxinvalis. 

dainteresebuli mxareebi: ruse- 

Ti, saqarTvelo, somxeTi, afxazuri 

da osuri separatistuli re- 

Jimebi _ cdiloben, momavali Sesa- 

Zlo SeTanxmebidan maqsimumi „gamowuron” 

sakuTari interesebidan 

gamomdinare an, minimum, es interesebi 

ar daazianon mainc. 

pirvel rigSi saqarTvelo: qar- 

Tuli diplomatia aq cdilobs, 

araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar misces 

ruseTs imis Tqmis sababi, rom 

swored Tbilisi gaxda „sabaJo monitoringis” 

Sesaxeb 2011 wlis SeTanxmebis 

CaSlis mizezi. 

Tavis mxriv, ruseTi iswrafis, 

stabiluri saxmeleTo komunikacia 

moipovos somxeTisa da iranisken. 

soxumisa da cxinvalis separatistuli 

reJimebi ki lamoben, am 

xelSekrulebis „konvertacias” 

maTi „damoukideblobis” pirdapir 

an irib aRiarebaSi. 

unda vaRiaroT, rom iseTi uma- 

Rlesi klasis Wkviani da gamocdili 

diplomatis wyalobiT, rogoric 

zurab abaSiZea, qarTuli mxare, 

jerjerobiT, erTaderTia, romelic 

dasaxul mizans aRwevs, Tanac 

moskovs totaluri embargos 

ganaxlebis politikur sababs ar 

uqmnis. 

_ erTmniSvnelovnad risi Tqma 

SeiZleba, vis aqvs yvelaze meti 

interesi am procesSi da ramde- 

nad realuria misi realizeba? 

_ ra Tqma unda, somxeTs! „revoluciur 

premier” nikol paSinians 

aucileblad sWirdeba socialuri 

viTarebis gaumjobeseba Tavis 

qveyanaSi, radgan masobrivi mxardaWera, 

rac man miiRo, gauTavebeli 

izolaciiT gawamebuli mosaxleobis 

ukmayofilebam ganapiroba. anu 

am ukmayofilebis „sublimacia” iyo 

is revoluciuri muxti. 

oRond, aqve kvlav dabejiTebiT 

gavimeoreb, rom araviTar „rkinigzaze” 

sinamdvileSi saubari ar aris. 

afxazeTis teritoriaze gamavali 

rkinigza, enguris afeTqebuli 

sarkinigzo xididan _ soxumamde, 

bolo 25 wlis ganmavlobaSi pirwmindad 

ganadgurda. mis aRdgenas 

imdeni dro da resursi dasWirdeba, 

amaze TviT saubaric „politteqnologiaa” 

da am teqnologiaSi 

kargad cnobili „sainformacio sa- 


babis deformacia”. realurad ki 

laparakia afxazeTis gavliT saavtomobilo 

moZraobis aRdgenaze, 

rac lojistikuri da infrastruqturuli 

TvalsazrisiT sruliad 

SesaZlebelia Tundac xvalidan: 

engurze saavtomobili xidi aravis 

aufeTqebia da zugdidi-gali-soxumi-fsous 

saavtomobilo gzac 

normalurad funqcionirebs. 

_ aseve mniSvnelovania e. w. sa- 

baJoebis Tema. rasac vakvirdebi, 

okupirebuli teritoriebis sep- 

aratistul reJimebs sakuTari 

interesebi aqvT, romelic, erTi 

SexedviT, sulac ar jdeba ruse- 

Tis interesebSi. iqneb, axsna, ra 

TamaSia es afxazeTis SemTxvevaSi 

da ra TamaSi _ cxinvalis SemTx- 

vevaSi? calk-calke imitom vambob, 

rom mimaCnia, interesebSi sx- 

vadasxva Semadgenelia. 

_ afxazeTis separatistuli re- 

Jimis mizani damoukideblobaa da 

ara ruseTis SemadgenlobaSi Sesvla. 

xolo cxinvalis separatistuli 

reJimisa _ „Crdilo oseTTan”, 

maSasadame, ruseTTan SeerTeba da 

ara damoukidebloba. oRondac, 

orives, am gansxvavebul miznamde 

misasvlelad, saqarTvelos aRiareba 

esaWiroeba. 

ruseTic da saqarTveloc cdiloben, 

2011 wlis xelSekruleba 

ise „waikiTxon”, anu imgvari „interpertacia” 

SesTavazon saerTa- 

Soriso Tanamegobrobasac da partniorebsac, 

rogoric maT interesebs 

Seesabameba. 

mogvwons Cven Tu ara, vaRiarebT 

Tu ara, magram 2011 wlis xelSekrulebaSi 

_ TviT saTaurSi _ 

namdvilad aris naxsenebi „sabaJo”. 

Tumca es ar niSnavs, saqarTvelos 

„sabaJo sazRvars” gorTan da engurTan. 

sapirispirios mtkiceba 

sruli demagogiaa, iseve rogorc 

Tezisi, TiTqos Tu Sveicarieli 

damkvirveblebi _ ufro zustad 

„aRmnusxvelebi” _ dadgebian engurTan, 

amiT saqarTvelo afxaze- 

Tis damoukideblobas cnobs. 

amgvari interpretaciiT maSin 

Cvenc SegviZlia vTqvaT da amaze 

unda vilaparakoT kidec mudmivad, 

rom Tuki ruseTi Tanxmdeba mdinare 

fsouze da ara engurze afxazuri 

mxridan ganalagos igive „aRmnusxvelebi”, 

amiT igi cnobs saqarTvelos 

teritoriul mTlianobas 

da „ukan miaqvs” 2008 wlis 26 

agvistos aqti maTi damoukideblobis 

cnobis Sesaxeb. 

rac Sexeba afxazeTisa da cxinvalis 

reJimebs, maT ukve erTmniSvnelovnad 

ganacxades, rom aravi- 

Tari saavtomobilo tranziti ar 

ganxorcieldeba manam, sanam saqarTvelo 

maTTan ar gaaformebs calke 

xelSekrulebebs, rac am warmonaqmnTa 

saerTaSoriso legitimurobis 

aRiareba iqneboda Tbilisis 

mxridan. 

moskovi, jerjerobiT, erideba 

soxumsa da cxinvalze Zlier zewolas, 

raki maT sakmaod „SemZle” 

lobi hyavT rusul istebliSmentSi. 

farulad es zewola mimdinareobs, 

magram putini radikaluri 

zomebis miRebas ar Cqarobs: mediaxmauri 

am Temaze daazianebs „2008 

wlis agvistos Rirebulebebs”, 

rodesac ruseTma pirveli seriozuli 

gamarjveba moipova sabWoTa 

imperiis daSlis Semdeg. 

samwuxarod, Seqmnili viTarebis 

adekvatur aRqmaSi Cvens sazogadoebas 

xels uSlis absoluturad 

arareleventuri „rwmena”, TiTqos 

„separatistebi mudam da yovelTvis 

yvelafers maSinve ise gaakeTeben, 

rogorc moskovi etyvis”. 

sinamdvileSi ase ar aris: daxuruli 

konsultaciebisas isini 

moskovel Cinosnebs eubnebian: „Cvenze 

ratom axorcielebT zewolas? 

_ saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg gaqvT 

berketebi, magaliTad, CauketeT 

bazari qarTul Rvinosa da borjoms, 

sanam Tbilisi CvenTan ar gaaformebs 

calke SeTanxmebas „tranzitis” 

Sesaxebo”. 

maT ician, rom putins Zalian 

gauWirdeba, sakuTar sazogadoebas 

auxsnas, ratom axorcielebs zewolas 

„mokavSireebze” da ar axorcielebs 

zewolas „mtrul saqarTveloze”. 

_ da, realurad, ratom ikavebs 

Tavs moskovi, putini, separat- 

istebisTvis sasargeblo nabijis 

gadasadgmelad? 

_ moskovi iTvaliswinebs, rom 

amgvari nabiji kontrproduqtiuli 

iqneba: veranairi embargo saqar- 

Tvelos verc erT xelisuflebas 

ver aiZulebs, separatistul re- 

JimebTan xelSekruleba gaaformos... 

amasobaSi ki ruseTma SesaZloa, 

somxeTTan komunikaciis is infrastruqturac 

dakargos _ saqarTvelos 

samxedro gza, sahaero 

sivrce _ riTac amJamad sargeblobs. 

_ okupirebul teritoriebTan 

urTierTobis Seni koncefcia 

samxreT koreis gamocdilebas ey- 

rdnoba da mas martivad SegviZlia 

vuwodoT: „Cven vaSenebT kedels”. 

ra aris am koncefciis dadebiTi 

daTo gamcemliZe: 

`Tu es tendencia 

gaZlierda, 

veranairi 

èlituri 

konsensusi~ 

saqarTvelos 

saxelmwifos ver 

gadaarCens!~ 

`Seqmnili viTarebis adekvatur aRqmaSi Cvens 

sazogadoebas xels uSlis absoluturad 

arareleventuri "rwmena", TiTqos "separatistebi 

mudam da yovelTvis yvelafers maSinve ise 

gaakeTeben, rogorc moskovi etyvis". 

sinamdvileSi ase ar aris: daxuruli 

konsultaciebisas isini moskovel Cinosnebs 

eubnebian: "Cvenze ratom axorcielebT zewolas? 

- saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg gaqvT berketebi, 

magaliTad, CauketeT bazari qarTul Rvinosa da 

borjoms, sanam Tbilisi CvenTan ar gaaformebs 

calke SeTanxmebas "tranzitis" Sesaxebo~ 

da uaryofiTi mxareebi? 

_ „kedeli” metaforaa. bevr 

monakveTze qvis an rkinis kedeli 

SesaZloa, arc dagvWirdes. magaliTad, 

mdinare enguri erTgvari 

„bunebrivi kedelia”, romelic sa- 

Sualebas gvaZlevs, saokupacio 

xazze situacia gavakontroloT. 

da swored amitom aris iq naklebi 

problema, rasac „samxreT oseTis” 

monakveTze ver vityviT. 

saqme isaa, rom Crdilo-atlantikuri 

gaerTianebis liderebs, 

maT Soris, natos generalur mdivans, 

bolo dros araerTxel uTqvamT: 

teritoriuli mTlianobis 

darRveva ver SeuSlis xels saqar- 

Tvelos daaxloebas, an Tundac 

wevrobas evroatlantikur aliansTan 

da mis damfuZnebel saxelmwifoebTan. 

rogorc es gancxadebebi, aseve 

gaxSirebuli masStaburi samxedro 

swavlebebi da amerikis samxedro 

istebliSmentis, amerikuli generalitetis 

yuradReba Cveni qveynis 

mimarT, miT umetes TurqeTTan 

sul ufro mzardi problemebis 

gaTvaliswinebiT, aSkarad metyvelebs: 

saqarTvelos amJamad marTla 

aqvs Sansi, isargeblos region- 

Si arsebuli viTarebiT da miiRos 

ara formaluri wevroba, aramed 

usafrTxoebis realuri garantiebi. 

pirvel rigSi, amerikis SeerTebuli 

Statebisgan. vgulisxmob Tundac 

im teritoriis Tavisufal da 

warmatebul ganviTarebas, rac 

„dagvrCa” bolo 30 wlis istoriul 

kataklizmTa Sedegad. 

es araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar 

gulisxmobs afxazeTisa da „samxreT 

oseTis” damoukideblobis aRiarebas, 

magram namdvilad gulisxmobs, 

rom „gadarCenili” teritoria, 

misi mravalmxrivi resursebi- 

Ta da zRvaze gasasvleliT, aseve 

xelsayreli geografiuli mdebareobiT, 

sruliad sakmarisia eris 

Tavisufali da warmatebuli ganviTarebisTvis. 

oRond amgvar garantiaTa Seqmnas 

xels uSlis is sistemuri garemoeba, 

rom saqarTvelo, amJamad, 

ara mxolod saerTaSorisod aRiarebul 

de-iure sazRvars ver 

akontrolebs, rac gadis fsouze 

da rokis gvirabTan, aramed _ rac 

bevrad uaresia _ ver akontrolebs 

verc saerTaSorisod aRiarebul 

de-faqto sazRvars saokupacio 

xazze, sadac mters mudmivad aqvs 

saSualeba, arCil tatunaSvilis 

mxecuri, winaswar dagegmili da 

zustad gaTvlili mkvlelobis msgavsad, 

ganaxorcielos hibriduli 

omis teqnologiebi da aCvenos 

Cvens potenciur mokavSireebs, rom 

saqarTveloSi realuri „Semosvla” 

hibriduli omis amouval WaobSi 

Semotopvas niSnavs. 

koream mxolod mas Semdeg da 

imiT moaxerxa mieRo amerikis realuri, 

Tanac mudmivi(!) samxedropolitikuri 

garantiebi, rac ara 

mxolod uari Tqva Cinur-sabWoTa 

komunisturi reJimis mier okupirebul 

teritoriaTa ZaliT dabrunebaze, 

aramed gamoasaxla Tavisi 

moqalaqeebi „saokupacio xazispira” 

raionebidan qveynis siRrme- 

Si da umkacresi kontroli daawesa 

saokupacio xazze. 

ai, amas vgulisxmob „kedlis” 

koncefciaSi. 

mesmis, rom verc erTi kategoriis 

politikuri Zala dRevandel 

saqarTveloSi am koncefciis 

mxardaWeras ver gabedavs, magram 

Tu Cven gvinda viqceT igived dasavleTisa 

da amerikisTvis, radac 

iqca samxreT korea, anu movipoviT 

Tavisufali ganviTarebis garantia 

evroatlantikur sivrceSi, 

adre Tu gvian, am nabijebis gadadgma 

mainc mogviwevs. winaaRmdeg 

SemTxvevaSi, situacia, romelic 

amJamad arsebobs de-faqto sazRvrebze, 

aucileblad ganapirobebs 

procesebs, rac, adre Tu gvian, am 

qveyanas isev „evraziul sivrceSi” 

daabrunebs. 

_ xom cxadia, qarTveli poli- 

tikosebis umetesoba, maT Soris, 

prodasavluri opozicia, am konc- 

efcias ar gaiziarebs da arc iziarebs, 

minimum amaze arc usaubri- 

aT, ufiqriaT Tu ara es calke sakiTxia. 

is ver jdeba „sazogadoebis 

daaxloebis”, „saxalxo diplo- 

matiisa” da sxva aTasi humanit- 

aruli proeqtis konteqstSi. Se- 

sabamisad, ramdenad cxovelmyofelia 

is da ra realuri alter- 

nativa arsebobs am mimarTul- 

ebiT? 

_ „kedlis koncefciisadmi” dapirispirebuli 

„humanitaruli 

proeqtebisa” da „Zmoba-megobrobis” 

„sapnis buStTa” cbiereba zustadac 

isaa, rom „komfortulia” 

politikuri klasisTvis! 

am klasis mentaloba mxolod 

mimdinare politikur interesebzea 

„awyobili” _ ra ritorikac ar 

unda hqondeT grZelvadiani „dasavluri 

orientaciis” Taobaze. 

es ritorikac da maTi „proeqtebic” 

sworedac „sapnis buStiviT” 

gaskdeba adre an gvian, Tu pasuxismgebeli 

politikuri nebidan 

gamomdinare gadawyvetilebebi ar 

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iqneba miRebuli. 

sxva SemTxvevaSi, vicxovrebT 

„motacebidan-motacebamde” da 

mudam viqnebiT iZulebulni, saokupacio 

reJims vexvewoT Cveni moqalaqeebis 

ganTavisufleba... amiT 

ki imave dasavleTs Tavad vuCvenoT, 

ramdenad damokidebulni varT 

kvlav moskovis keTil nebaze. 

anu ra gamodis? Cven ra gvinda 

aseT SemTxvevaSi? ras viTxovT 

dasavleTisgan? rom „Semovidnen” 

saqarTveloSi da Semdeg, aseTi 

eqscesebis Sedegad, TviTonac 

gaxdnen amgvaradve damokidebulni 

moskovis „keTil nebaze”, raki 

saqarTvelos misces usafrTxo 

ganviTarebis garantiebi? da Tavad 

unda imtvrion Tavi imaze, gadmoscems 

Tu ara e. w. samxreT oseTi 

morigi, sastikad nawamebi arCil 

tatunaSvilis cxedars? gamoricxulia! 

amas arc erTi dasavleli 

lideri xels ar moawers, radgan 

maT ukve iwvnies, rom hibridul 

omSi moskovis damarcxebas araTu 

saqarTvelos, aramed sakuTar teritoriazec 

ver axerxeben, umetes 

SemTxvevaSi. 

_ rogor fiqrob, ekonomikuri 

efeqti, anu qveynis ekonomikuri 

winsvla, socialuri problemebis 

daZleva da saxelmwifos gadaqceva 

warmatebul ekonomikad, Sesa- 

Zloa Tu ara iqces okupirebuli 

regionebis „dabrunebis” wina- 

pirobad, Tu konkretuli daTqmis 

gareSe Cven maT am sikeTeebiT 

sargeblobis uflebas ar mivcemT 

an mivcemT? 

_ es aris miTi, igive „sapnis 

buSti”, riTac xsenebuli „politikuri 

klasi” qmnis aqtivobis 

iluzias da Tavidan icilebs problemebs. 

eTnopolitikuri konfliqtebis 

arsi identobaTa fuZemdeblur 

fenomens ukavSirdeba da aranairi 

ekonomikur-humanitaruli meTodebiT 

ar ikurneba. 

magaliTad, Zalian mimzidveli 

qveyanaa inglisi yvela TvalsazrisiT, 

magram aman ver „umkurnala” 

verc irlandiur separatizms 

gasuli saukunis 20-ian wlebSi da 

verc Crdilo irlandiur separatizms 

dRes. 

afxazuri da osuri separatizmi, 

TavianTi TvisebriobiT, anu imanenturi, 

sistemuri arsiT antiqarTulia! 

da swored es imanenturi 

Tvisebaa aq pirveladi, xolo 

moskovis warmatebuli boroti 

mcdeloba, igi mzakvrulad gamoiyenos 

Tavisi derJavuli, geopolitikuri, 

antiqarTuli miznebis gansaxorcieleblad, 

mainc meoradi! 

Tavis mxriv, separatistTa mudmivi 

mcdeloba, moskovis imperiuli 

interesebi antiqarTuli miznebis 

gansaxorcieleblad gamoiyenon, 

meoradia da ara pirveladi. 

pirveladi maTTvis qarTvelofobiaa. 

qarTuli politikuri klasi 

didi xania cdilobs am intersTa 

mimarTebis „gadanacvlebas”, rac 

politikurad da ritorikulad 

SesaZloa, mizanSewonilic Candes, 

Tumca, realurad, mizez-Sedegobriv 

kavSirTa amgvar aRrevas sazogadoebrivi 

azri CixSi Sehyavs. 

martivad Tu vityviT, ruseTs 

sZuls qarTuli saxelmwifo da 

separatizms am boroti intervenciis 

gansaxorcieleblad iyenebs, 

magram ruseTs ar aqvs idiosinkrazia 

(Zlieri apaTia raRacis mimarT, 

veratana, _ red.) qarTveli erisa 

da qarTvelebis mimarT. separatistebs 

ki qarTuli saxelmwifo 

sZulT ara raime racionaluri 

geopolitikuri mizezebiT, aramed 

maTi identobis Ziebidan gamomdinare 

qarTvelofobiis Sedegad. 

_ absoluturad geTanxmebi, es 

fundamenturi sxvaobaa! 

_ diax, am paradigmaSi „instrumentia” 

pirveladi, xolo misi 

gamomyenebeli „xeli” _ mainc meoradi. 

lietuvis winaaRmdeg moskovs 

amgvari „instrumenti”, sabednierod, 

ar aRmoaCnda gasuli saukunis 

80-ian wlebSi. amitomac miaRwies 

lietuvelebma damoukideblobas 

SedarebiT iolad. 

estoneTSi, „koxtla iarves” regionSi 

rusebi kompaqturad cxovrobdnen, 

magram isini sworedac 

rusebi iyvnen da ara adgilobrivi 

eTnikuri umciresoba, romelTa 

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àfxazeTis teritoriaze gamavali rkinigza, enguris afeTqebuli sarkinigzo 

xididan - soxumamde, bolo 25 wlis ganmavlobaSi pirwmindad ganadgurda. 

mis aRdgenas imdeni dro da resursi dasWirdeba, amaze TviT saubaric 

`politteqnologiaa~ da am teqnologiaSi kargad cnobili `sainformacio 

sababis deformacia~. realurad ki laparakia afxazeTis gavliT 

saavtomobilo moZraobis aRdgenaze, rac lojistikuri da 

infrastruqturuli TvalsazrisiT sruliad SesaZlebelia Tundac xvalidan: 

engurze saavtomobili xidi aravis aufeTqebia da zugdidi-gali-soxumi- 

fsous saavtomobilo gzac normalurad funqcionirebs~ 

gamoyeneba ruseTis xelSi moxerxdeboda 

„instrumentad” estone- 

Tis damoukideblobis winaaRmdeg. 

_ arsebobs rame iseTi, momxibvleli 

politikuri faqtori, 

romelic „imaT” Cvenken gamo- 

axedebs? 

_ rogor ar arsebobs, magram... 

vai, am faqtors! uamravi afxazi 

„frendi” myavs da yvela erTsa da 

imave „mesijboqss” iyenebs socialur 

qselSi diskusiisas: jer scaniT 

Cveni damoukidebloba, erTxel 

da samudamod uari TqviT ltolvilTa 

dabrunebaze, uari TqviT 

galis raionis mosaxleobis qarTvelobaze 

(maTi TvalTaxedviT isini 

stalin-berias mier „gaqarTvelebuli 

afxazebi” arian), afxaze- 

Ti gaxdeba gaeros wevri, gavaformebT 

TqvenTan xelSekrulebas 

uvizo reJimis Sesaxeb da viyoT 

keTili mezoblebi. es aris da es. 

_ radgan ekonomikaze Camovarda 

saubari, cxadia, qveyanaSi mim- 

dinare procesebs „iqidan” kargad 

akvirdebian. am fonze sainteresoa 

TBC bankis qeisi, Tundac anakli- 

is portis konteqstSi, magram 

anakliaze calke vikiTxav. zoga- 

dad, ramdenad damazianebelia es 

saqme saxelmwifosTvis, misi finansuri 

mdgradobisTvis da re- 

alurad, ra xdeba? 

_ TBC bankis saqme Zalian dama- 

`sinamdvileSi, problema aqvs ara TBC banks, 

aramed piradad mamuka xazaraZes, romelmac es 

SesaniSnavi banki, SeiZleba iTqvas, arafridan 

Seqmna 23 wlis win, SviliviT gazarda, mouara, 

gaaZliera da saerTaSoriso-finansur asparezze 

gaiyvana rogorc erT-erTi saukeTeso finansuri 

instituti regionSi. aseTi warmateba, 

upirveles yovlisa, piradad mamuka xazaraZis 

niWis, Sromisa da unaris Sedegia.~ 

zianebelia saqarTvelosTvis da 

Cveni qveynis ekonomikisTvis. maT 

Soris sainvesticio TvalsazrisiT. 

Tumca TviT banks uSualo safrTxe 

mxolod im SemTxvevaSi daemuqreba, 

Tu atexili isteriidan 

gamomdinare, meanabreebi erTbaSad 

Seesevian da anabrebis ukan dabrunebas 

moiTxoven. 

sabednierod, ase ar xdeba da 

romc moxdes, am „sistemaTSemoqmedi” 

bankis gakotrebas aravin dauSvebs: 

arc saqarTvelos saxelmwifo 

da arc saerTaSoriso savaluto 

fondi. 

sinamdvileSi, problema aqvs ara 

TBC banks, aramed piradad mamuka 

xazaraZes, romelmac es SesaniSnavi 

banki, SeiZleba iTqvas, arafridan 

Seqmna 23 wlis win, SviliviT gazarda, 

mouara, gaaZliera da saerTaSoriso-finansur 

asparezze gaiyvana 

rogorc erT-erTi saukeTeso 

finansuri instituti regionSi. 

aseTi warmateba, upirveles yovlisa, 

piradad mamuka xazaraZis 

niWis, Sromisa da unaris Sedegia. 

gavrcelebuli konspirologiuri 

mosazrebis miuxedavad, biZina 

ivaniSvils araviTari kavSiri 

ar aqvs mis amJamindel problemebTan. 

es SesaniSnavad icis Tavad 

mamuka xazaraZem da zustad amitom 

ar „utevs” ivaniSvils. 

Tu mainc „Seutevs”, maSin isic 

gamJRavndeba, rom, sinamdvileSi, 

2008-2009 wels masze Seteva daiwyes 

ara biZina ivaniSvilma, aramed 

TBC bankis dasavlelma aqcionerebma, 

romlebmac, morigi auditis 

Sedegad, maTTvis uCveulo, 

TumcaRa qarTuli realobisTvis 

Cveulebrivi da sruliad „miRebuli” 

tranzaqcia aRmoaCines, rasac 

axla ukve Riad edavebian. 

es ybadaRebuli tranzaqcia 

araviTari „fulis gaTeTreba” da 

„TaRliToba” ar aris _ yvelaferi, 

rac maSin ganxorcielda, anu 2008 

wlis gazafxulze, ganxorcielda 

mamuka xazaraZis kompetenciis 

farglebSi. bolos da bolos igi 

xom sakmaod solidur wils flobs 

am bankSi. magram imave bankis msxvil 

aqciaTa mflobelebisTvis 

(EBRD, JP Morgan Chase da sxva gigantebi) 

is tranzaqcia imdenad 

uCveulo iyo, rom swored maT Seitanes 

2009 wels _ amaSi uryevad 

darwmunebuli var(!) _ saCivari 

saqarTvelos erovnul bankSi, romelic 

finansuri monitoringis 

funqcias unda asrulebdes mis 

iurisdiqciaSi Semaval bankTa tranzaqciebTan 

dakavSirebiT. 

aq mTavari kiTxvaa: ratom gaamwvava 

„sebis” „finansuri monitoringis 

samsaxurma” sakiTxi swored 

axla? ratom ara 10 wlis win? pasuxad 

JRers, rom biZina ivaniSvilma 

raRac „aikviata”, „xazaraZeze 

gabrazda” da a. S. me piradad amis 

ar mjera: Tu vinme daziandeba am 

skandaliT, Tundac ara finansuri 

da ekonomikuri, aramed politikuri 

TvalsazrisiT 2020 wlis 

arCevnebis win, swored biZina ivaniSvili 

da misi partiaa! amgvari 

skandalebiT sul ufro iklebs 

momaval saparlamento arCevnebSi 

maTi warmatebis Sansi. 

Cemi pasuxi am kiTxvaze isaa, rom 

TBC bankis msxvili aqcionerebi, 

Cveuli pedanturobiTa da da- 

JinebiT, mTeli am wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

mudmivad ayenebdnen am sakiTxs 

saqarTvelos finansuri monitoringis 

samsaxuris winaSe, raki 

aRar endobodnen im bankis menejments, 

sadac miliardobiT dolari 

„Caasxes” _ aqve: gvariani mogebac 

naxes da bolos wauyenes ultimatumi: 

an _ an! 

_ simarTle giTxra, mec viziareb 

am pozicias, Tumca qarTu- 

li politikuri speqtri, romel- 

ic cdilobs procesidan misTvis 

sasargeblo viTareba gamowvelos 

da sulac ar adardebs arc xaz- 

araZe da arc banki, sazogadoebis 

nawili da obivatelebi konkret- 

ul qeisSi damnaSaved swored rom 

xelisuflebas xedaven da konkre- 

tul personasac. magram es proc- 

esi xom mniSvnelovan sirTulee- 

bTan aris dakavSirebuli, Tundac 

rac ukve Tqvi _ xelisuflebi- 

sTvis politikurad damazianebe- 

lia, iseve rogorc Tavad xazara- 

ZisTvis warmoadgens, arc meti 

arc naklebi, pirovnul tragedi- 

as. maSin moiwvion aqcionerTa 

kreba da sakiTxi „saxlSi 

saxlSi” gadaw- 

yviton, saxelmwifos dazaraleb- 

is gareSe. 

_ aqcionerTa krebis mowveviT 

menejmentis „gaSveba” iseT sirTuleebTan 

da riskebTan aris dakav- 

Sirebuli, miT umetes, rodesac es 

menejmenti Tavadaa bankis damfuZnebeli 

da minoritari aqcioneri, 

rom es gza arCies. 

rom ara mamuka xazaraZis niWi 

da unariani Sroma, TBC banki ar 

iqneboda! yovel SemTxvevaSi, dRevandeli 

saxiT, rodesac igi regionSi 

erT-erTi saukeTeso bankia 

udavod. magram TBC banki ar aris 

„mamuka xazaraZis banki!” mas rom 

iolad daeTmo bankis marTva dasavleli 

aqcionerebis mier daniSnuli 

axali menejmentisTvis, aravi- 

Tari „xmauri” ar iqneboda, radgan, 

vimeoreb: 2008 wlis tranzaqciaSi 

aranairi kriminali ar aris da 

aravin dazaralebula. Tumca xazaraZe 

sakuTar, marTla SviliviT 

nazard pirmSos ase iolad ar daTmobda 

da swored am dilemam Seqmna 

problema. 

_ ra bedi elis anakliis pro- 

eqts, romelic Tundac ara mxo- 

lod transnacionaluri, aramed 

okupirebuli regionis konteqst- 

Si Zalian mniSvnelovani proeq- 

tia? 

_ igive, rac banks: orive misi 

SesaniSnavi ideaa, magram arc erTi 

ar aris mamuka xazaraZis uSualo 

sakuTreba. „anakliis proeqts” axorcielebs 

banki, anu axorcieleben 

misi sakontrolo paketis mflobeli 

gigantebi. xazaraZis gare- 

Sec ganaxorcieleben _ ra damsaxurebac 

ar unda hqondes am Sesani- 

Snav menejers da moRvawes proeqtis 

promoutirebaSi. 

_ anakliis sakiTxze ivaniSvi- 

lis faqtorze apelireben, rom 

mas proeqtis axeva unda xazar- 

aZisTvis... 

gagrZeleba 23-e gv. 

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sazogadoebis wevrebi _ saqar- 

Tvelos mosaxleoba da „gareSe 

pirebic” ki, minimum, pativiscemasa 

da mokrZalebas imsaxureben imis 

gamo, rom sakuTari SromiT, saku- 

Tari gadasaxadebiT asazrdoeben 

da kvebaven eklesias. es imis miuxedavad, 

rom Tavad eklesia arad 

dagidevT Tundac madlierebasa da 

Riaobas. aravin eubneba gadasaxadis 

gadamxdels da aq sulac ar 

aris savaldebulo gadasaxadis 

gadamxdelis rwmena, misi sentimentebi 

religiasTan, Tu sad ixarjeba 

eklesiis mxridan biujetidan 

miRebuli Semosavlebi. im fonze, 

rodesac qveyanas hyavs aTi aTasobiT 

mSieri, upovari, usaxlkaro, 

davrdomili, umweo, upatrono moqalqe, 

eklesia saxelmwifoSi erTerTi 

yvelaze mdidari da, calkeuli 

faqtebis gaTvaliswinebiT, korumpirebuli 

institutia. rodesac 

eklesiis korumpurebulobaze 

vsaubrob, mxedvelobaSi myavs is 

RvTismsaxurni, romlebic arakanonier 

saqmianobaSi arian CarTulni 

da farad, isev da isev, qristes rwmenas, 

eklesias iyeneben. 

*** 

martivi kiTxva davsvaT, _ cxovrobs 

ki saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli 

eklesia dRes sakuTari 

eris cxovrebiT da eris gasaWiriT, 

misi tkiviliTa da sazrunaviT? 

pasuxi ideologiur pasaJebSi ki ar 

veZeboT, aramed _ faqtebSi. 

arqivebSi napovni gujaris (gujari 

XI saukunidan Semodis qarTul 

leqsikaSi da igi mefisgan nabo- 

Zebi sabuTis zogadi saxelwodebaa. 

sulxan-sabas ganmartebiT „gujari” 

aris didi sigeli, mniSvnelovani 

dokumenti) kalendris mixedviT 

(wyaro: akademikosi paata ko- 

RuaSvili) 1864 wlisTvis dasavleT 

saqarTveloSi qarTul mar- 

Tlmadidebel eklesias hqonda 

qoneba, romelic Sefasebeuli iyo 

29 milion oqrod, xolo aRmosavleT 

saqarTveloSi Sefasebuli 

qonebis moculoba 28 milioni iyo. 

eklesia flobda aTobiT aTas desitina 

miwebs, saamqroebs, sawarmoebs, 

oqro-vercxlsa da a. S. am 

qonebis mniSvnelovani nawili rom 

Semdgom ruseTSi gaizida, es, 

vgoneb, yvelasTvis gasagebia. 

gagaxsenebT im faqtsac, roca 

1990 wels paata koRuaSvilma saqarTvelos 

pirvel prezident zviad 

gamsaxurdiasTan erTad gaaJRera 

winadadeba eklesiisTvis 1918 wlisTvis 

arsebuli monacemebis safuZvelze 

toli raodenobis miwebis 

(24 aTasi ha) gadacemis Sesaxeb. 

mogvianebiT, saqarTvelos samociqulo 

marTlmadidebel eklesias 

gadaeca 22 aTasi ha miwa, ramdenime 

sawarmo, sabWoTa meurneobebi. 

TandaTanobiT es qoneba izrdeboda. 

2002 wels saxelmwifosa da eklesias 

Soris gaformebuli sakonsaqarTvelos 

eklesiis 25 miliardi 

kidev erTxel mkafiod SevTan- 

avTandil kvernaZe 

xmdeT: rodesac vmsjelobT saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebeli eklesiis 

sakiTxebze da eklesiaSi arsebul problemebze, brmadmorwmune 

mrevlma da calkeulma _ arasasurveli miznebiT mo- 

tivirebulma, sakuTar TavSi Caketilma mRvdelmsaxurma unda 

gaiTvaliswinos _ „gareSe pirebi” ar daoben saeklesio dogmebze 

da aravin moiTxovs naTlobis, ziarebisa Tu sxva saidumloebebis 

aRsrulebis Secvlas. es pirebi ver xvdebian, rom ek- 

lesiis gulSematkivarni misi mesaWeebisgan patiosnebas, Riaobas, 

sazogadoebis interesebis gaTvaliswinebas, progresisa da sax- 

elmwifos Tanadgomas moiTxoven. 

stitucio SeTanxmebis _ konkordartis 

safuZvelze miRebul iqna 

gadawyvetileba eklesiisTvis mefis 

ruseTisa da sabWoTa mmar- 

Tvelobis dros miyenebuli zianis 

anazRaurebis Sesaxeb. Seiqmna Sesabamisi 

komisiac, romelic sul 

orjer Tu samjer Seikriba da konkretuli 

zianis moculoba ar 

dadgenila. amis miuxedavad, saxelmwifom 

erTpirovnulad aiRo 

sakuTar Tavze garkveuli sabiujeto 

valdebulebebic ki. 

ruseTis imperiam 1811 wels 

`gansakuTrebiT sagulisxmoa sapatriarqos mier 

àvadsaxsenebeli~ èrTiani nacionaluri 

moZraobis~ dros miRebuli sabiujeto saxsrebis 

moculoba. 2003-2012 wlebSi saqarTvelos 

sapatriarqosaTvis gamoyofilma pirdapirma 

dafinansebam Seadgina: 2003 weli - 909 000 

lari (cnobisTvis: 2002 wels - 857,600 lari); 

2004 weli - 1 637 900 lari; 2005 weli - 

1,290,100 lari; 2006 weli - 4,803,300 lari; 2007 

weli - 4,270,600 lari; 2008 weli - 12,933,400 

lari; 2009 weli - 26,394,900 lari; 2010 weli - 

25,675,300 lari; 2011 weli - 24,391,700 lari; 

2012 weli - 22,800,000 lari; 

gaauqma saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli 

eklesiis avtokefalia, 

1869 wels ki sabolood daasrula 

qonebis CamorTmevis procesi. sxvadasxva 

wyaros mixedviT, ruseTis 

mier saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebriobis 

moSlamde, eklesia 7000 

kvadratul kilometrze met far- 

Tobs flobda. 

ruseTis imperiis damxobis Semdeg, 

pirveli respublikis gamocxadebamde 

erTi wliT adre, 1917 

wlis 12 marts, saqarTvelos eklesiam 

avtokefalia aRidgina, magram 

sabWoTa okupaciis pirobebSi ver 

moxerxda qonebis sakiTxis ganxilva-gadawyveta. 

1990 wlis 12 aprils 

saqarTvelos ssr-is ministrTa sabWom 

miiRo gadawyvetileba da sapatriarqos 

ukan daubrunda sabWo- 

Ta xelisuflebis mier CamorTmeuli 

yvela sakulto nageboba. 

90-iani wlebis dasawyisidan, 

damoukideblobis gamocxadebis 

Semdeg, saqarTvelos marTmadidebelma 

eklesiam qonebis dabrunebis 

procesi daiwyo. 

*** 

zemoT naxsenebi konkordatis 

me-6 muxlis me-4 punqtis Tanaxmad, 

„eklesiis dafinansebis wyaros 

warmoadgens: nebayoflobiTi Semowirulobani, 

samewarmeo Semosavlebi, 

investiciebi, grantebi, daxmarebebi, 

moqmedi kanonmdeblobis 

Sesabamisad miRebuli sxva Semosavlebi”. 

imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom 

sapatriarqo, faqtobrivad, ar 

iZleva saSualebas, sazogadoebam 

icodes misi Semosavlebis wyaroebidan 

miRebuli saxsrebis Sesaxeb, 

mogviwevs mxolod im mwiri monacemebiT 

davkmayofildeT, rac viciT 

biujetis nawilSi da sxvadasxva 

oficialuri dokumentidan. 

rogorc irkveva, saqarTvelos 

sapatriarqos, gnebavT, saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebel eklesias, 

1988 wlidan 2017 wlis CaTvliT 

sxvadasxva formiT miRebuli aqvs 

6270 kvadratuli kilomtri miwa. 

Tu masStabebs gaviTvaliswinebT, 

es, daaxloebiT, qalaq baTumis 

toli teritoriaa (SesaZloa, araswori 

Sedarebac ki iyos, magram vatikanis 

teritoria 44 ha-s Seadgens). 

mxolod erTi magaliTi: sapatriarqosTvis 

gadacemuli „boboyvaTis 

rezidencia” 35 milion dolarad 

(92 750 000 milioni lari) iyo 

Sefasebuli. SefasebaSi ar Sedis 

lamis erTkilometriani sanapiro 

zoli. im pirobebSi, rodesac arsebobda 

investori, saxelmwifom rezidencia 

sapatriarqos aCuqa. 

calke kvleviT cnobili xdeba, 

rom sapatriarqom sxvadasxva periodSi 

saxelmwifosgan miRebuli 

miwis nakveTebi, daaxloebiT, 11-13 

aTasi ha (iZebneba sxva monacemebic) 

daubruna saxelmwifos, adgilobriv 

TviTmmarTvelobebs. dokumentebis 

SeswavliT dgindeba, rom 

am gadacemul miwebs maT an ucvlidnen 

sxva miwis nakveTebSi, an 

„Cabarebidan” umokles vadaSi es 

qoneba sxva mepatroneze formdeboda. 

aris faqtebi, rom mTel rig 

SemTxvevebSi axali mflobelebi 

calkeul RvTismsaxurebTan daaxloebuli 

pirebi arian. Tumca precedentebis 

arsebobis gaTvaliswinebiT 

eqspertebi miiCneven, rom es 

saeklesio qonebis mitacebis korufciuli 

faqtebia. 

radgan dokumentebi sakmaod 

moculobiTia vgoneb, am mimarTulebiT 

calke masalis gamoqveyneba 

aucileblobas warmoadgens da aq 

konkretuli magaliTebis moyvanisgan 

Tavs Sevikaveb. erTi mxriv, ar 

davarRvio udanaSaulobis prezumpcia 

da meore mxriv, aucilebelia 

aRiniSnos, rom am droisTvis 

mokvleuli masalebi iZleva gonivruli 

eWvis warmoSobis SesaZleblobas, 

romlis mixedviTac, ar 

aris gamoricxuli, adgili gvqondes 

sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulis 

faqtebTan _ dawyebuli TaRliTobidan 

da sxvisi (eklesiis) 

qonebis miTvisebiT dasrulebuli. 

faqtobrivad, rac winaswar Cans, im 

informaciis safuZvelze, umetes 

SemTxvevaSi, ikveTeba sasulieri da 

saero pirebis danaSaulebrivi 

garigebebi angarebisa da piradi 

gamorCenis mizniT. 

sakiTxis moralur mxares mivxedoT, 

_ vin ekiTxeboda calkeul 

RvTismsaxurebsa da sapatriarqos 

warmomadgenlebs am miwebis _ eklesiis 

qonebis aseTi formiT „movlas”? 

daijerebs vinme imis gamo, 

rom miwas ver uvlidnen da keTil- 

Sobili miznebiT daubrunes saxelmwifos? 

ra ufleba hqondaT eklesiis 

mesveurebsa Tu msaxurebs, 

gaeniavebinaT qoneba da calkeul 

SemTxvevebSi, realurad, saeWvo 

garigebebSi Sesuliyvnen saero 

pirebTan Tu xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebTan? 

da amis miuxedavad, eqsprtebis 

nawili acxadebs, rom mxolod sapatriarqos 

mflobelobaSi arsebuli 

miwis jamuri sabazro Rirebuleba, 

Sewonili minimaluri fasis 

pirobebSic ki, ramdenime miliard 

aSS dolars utoldeba. 

*** 

zemoT moyvanili magaliTis konteqstSi 

SevxedoT dekanoz giorgi 

mamalaZis saqmes. imTaviTve iTqva, 

rom dekanozi mamalaZe imitom 

gaxda samizne, rom man sapatriaqos 

kuTvnili qonebis gankargvaSi araerTi 

danaSaulebrivi faqti aRmoaCina. 

Tu gaviTvaliwinebT zemoT 

moyvanil magaliTs miwasTan 

dakavSirebiT, romelic, savaraudod, 

arc aris moxvedrili mamalaZis 

mier gamovlenil faqteb- 

Si, namdvilad arsebobs imis gancda, 

rom mamalaZis cixeSi yofna Sedioda 

garigebebSi myofi meufeebis, 

ufro dabali ierarqebisa Tu 

sapatriarqoSi gavlenis mqone 

saero pirebis interesebSi. 

*** 

rogorc irkveva, 2002 wlidan 

sapatriarqos centraluri biujetidan 

miRebuli aqvs 310 milioni 

lari, 2019 wels misaRebi Tanxis 

CaTvliT _ 335 milioni. ufro 

adrindel monacemebs am mimrTulebiT 

ver mivakvlie. 

gansakuTrebiT sagulisxmoa sapatriarqos 

mier „avadsaxsenebeli” 

„erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis” 

dros miRebuli sabiujeto saxsrebis 

moculoba. 

2003-2012 wlebSi saqarTvelos 

sapatriarqosaTvis gamoyofilma 

pirdapirma dafinansebam Seadgina: 

2003 weli _ 909 000 lari (cnobisTvis: 

2002 wels _ 857,600 lari); 

2004 weli _ 1 637 900 lari; 2005 

weli _ 1,290,100 lari; 2006 weli _ 

4,803,300 lari; 2007 weli _ 4,270,600 

lari; 2008 weli – 12,933,400 lari; 

2009 weli – 26,394,900 lari; 2010 

weli _ 25,675,300 lari; 2011 weli 

_ 24,391,700 lari; 2012 weli _ 

22,800,000 lari; 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebis 

pirobebSi sapatriarqos biujeti, 

wina wlis biujetTan SedarebiT, 

kvlav gaizarda da 25 milioni 

lari Seadgina. 2014-2018 wleb- 

Si sapatriarqos dafinansebam yovelwliurad 

Seadgina 25 milioni 

lari. 2019 welsac sapatriarqos 

mier centraluri biujetidan misaRebi 

dafinanseba 25 milion lars 

Seadgens. 

mniSvnelovania is garemoeba, 

rom sapatriarqo biujetidan dafinansebas 

sxva gzebiTac iRebda. 

magaliTisTvis, „saerTaSoriso 

gamWvirvalobis” mier mopovebuli 

informaciis Tanaxmad, 2006-2012 

wlebSi saqarTvelos prezidentis 

gankargulebiTa da mTavrobis 

dadgenilebebiT sxvadasxva RonisZiebisTvis 

gamoyofilia 8 milion 

388 200 lari. damatebiT, prezidentis 

sarezervo fondidan amave 

periodSi sapatriarqos miRebuli 

aqvs 10 milion 401087 lari. am saxsrebidan 

mxolod avtomanqanebis 

SesaZenad gamoyofili Tanxis moculoba 

Seadgens 2 milion 170290 

lars. organizacia yuradRebas miapyrobs 

im garemoebas, rom 2008 

wlis saprezidento arCevnebamde 

ori dRiT adre, prezidentis fondidan 

sapatriarqos 1 700 000 lari 

Caericxa, xolo 2012 wlis ivlisSi 

Sss-m (ministri baCo axalaia) „mersedesis” 

markis avtomanqanis Rirebulebis 

SesaZenad sapatriarqos 

110 aTasi evro gamouyo. 

aRsaniSnavia is garemoeba, rom 

sapatriarqo sxvadasxva RonisZiebis 

dasafinanseblad regularulad 

iRebs Tanxebs calkeuli uwyebebidan. 

aseve regularuli xasiaTi 

aqvs am institutisTvis sxva- 

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da ukidegano gavlena 

dasxva saxis qonebis mikuTvnebas 

ufasod, 1 larad an 1 aSS dolarad. 

*** 

rogorc irkveva, centralur 

xelisuflebas arc adgilobrivi 

xelisuflebebi CamorCebian. es im 

pirobebSi, roca adgilobrivi biujetebiT 

ver xerxdeba uamravi 

programis dafinanseba, xelmokle 

ojaxebisa Tu umweoebisTvis daxmarebebis 

gaweva. sxvadasxva monacemze 

dayrdnobiT adgilobrivi 

municipalitetebis mier adgilobrivi 

eparqiebisa da RvTismsaxurebisTvis 

gaweuli daxmareba, 

bolo 12 wlis ganmavlobaSi, lamis, 

20 milion lars aRwevs. gamoyofili 

Tanxebis daniSnuleba sxvadasxvagvaria, 

dawyebuli eklesiis 

mSeneblobiT (magaliTad, Cxorowyus 

municipalitetis mier daviT 

aRmaSeneblis eklesiis mSeneblobisTvis 

gamoyofili 200 000 lari) 

an mravalfunqciuri kompleqsis 

mSeneblobisTvis (magaliTad, mcxeTis 

municipalitetis mier sveticxovlis 

taZris mimdebared mravalfunqciuri 

kompleqsis mSeneblobisTvis 

gamoyofili 1,118,275 

lari) an infrastruqturis ganvi- 

TarebisTvis (magaliTad, senakis 

municipalitetis mier wm. aleqsi 

SuSanias saxelobis skola-gimnaziisTvis 

gamoyofili 140 aTasi lari 

samSeneblo-saremonto samuSaoebisa 

da infrastruqturis ganvi- 

Tarebis RonisZiebebisTvis). 

zogierTi municipalitetis 

SemTxvevaSi gaugebaric ki aris, ra 

daniSnulebiTaa Tanxebi gamoyofili. 

zogierTma ki saxrebis xarjvis 

originalur xerxs miagno da 

fuls fizikur pirebs uyofda. magaliTad: 

lanCxuTis municipaliteti 

mTel rig SemTxvevebSi finansur 

daxmarebas ara sapatriarqos 

an adgilobriv eparqias, aramed _ 

fizikur pirebs pirdapir aZlevda, 

radgan sasuliero pirebi iyvnen. 

*** 

Zalian sainteresoa sxvadasxva 

uwyebis mier sapatriarqosTvis 

gadacemuli qonebisa Tu momsaxurebis 

CamonaTvali, romelic moicavs 

miwas, transports, sawarmoebs, 

samSeneblo masalebs, Senobanagebobebs, 

infrastruqturas, sa- 

Zile tomrebs, xelTaTmanebs, SeSas, 

wignebis beWdvasa da Targmnas. 

Tumca gansakuTrebiT niSandoblivia 

sapatriarqos mflobelobaSi 

arsebuli oTxi samedicino 

dawesebuleba, maT Soris, ori 

arakomerciuli („Terapiuli klinika 

upovarTaTvis”, „wm. giorgis 

saxelobis kardiologiuri saavadmyofo”), 

ori ki Sps („wminda ioakime 

da anas saxelobis samedicino centri” 

da saeklesio saavadmyofo _ 

„wminda daviT aRmaSeneblis saxelobis 

qsnenoni”). arakomerciuliaramomgebiani 

aq iuridiuli normisTvisaa, 

Torem isinic komerciul 

saqmianobas ewevian. iseve rogorc 

mogebazea orientirebuli ori 

klinika, romelic SezRuduli pasuxismgeblobis 

sawarmoa. miuxedavad 

didi mcdelobisa, ver davadgine 

ramden adamians moemsaxura 

ufasod sapatriarqos klinikebi. 

sapatriarqos aseve ekuTvnis 

ragbis klubi „bagrati” quTaisSi, 

Tbilisis samxreTiT mdebare „krwanisis 

tye-parki”, xaSmis Rvinis qarxana 

kaxeTSi, samSeneblo-saproeqto 

kompania Sps „iberia burji” da 

a. S. 

rogorc irkveva, sapatriarqos 

ekuTvnis Sps „Tanadgoma”. am kompaniis 

saqmianobaa navTobis importi 

da realizacia. ise, friad gasakviri 

ki aris, es biznesi rogor pasuxobs 

saeklesio-sasuliero moTxovnebs. 

xelmisawvdomi dokumentebiT 

dgindeba, rom sapatriarqos dafuZnebuli 

aqvs 100-mde arasamewarmeo 

iuridiuli piri _ maT Soris 

universitetebi, seminariebi, skolebi, 

socialuri dawesebulebebi, 

sxvadasxva fondi. 

*** 

am fonze gansakuTrebiT yuradsaRebia 

is ideologiuri gavlena, 

romelic sapatriarqos aqvs saxelmwifoSi 

ara mxolod saxelmwifo 

institutebze, aramed xalxze. ra 

aris xalxze _ masaze gavlenis safuZveli 

da rogor manipulirebs sapatriarqo 

maTi emociebiT, amaze, 

albaT, calke mogviwevs saubari, 

magram axla erTi metad saintereso 

monacemi sapatriarqos vebgverdidan. 

kulturul-saganmanaTleblo 

dawesebulebebis CamonaTvalsa 

da raodenobas gadavxedoT. 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqos 

kulturul-saganmanaTleblo 

dawesebulebani 

mcxeTa-Tbilisis eparqia 

Tbilisis sasuliero akademia 

da seminaria; 

Tbilisis wm. andria pirvelwodebulis 

sax. qarTuli universiteti; 

Tbilisis sasuliero akademiasTan 

arsebuli saRvTismetyvelo 

instituti; 

Tbilisis dekoratiuli mebaReobis 

sazogadoebrivi koleji; 

giorgi mTawmindelis saxelobis 

saeklesio galobis umaRlesi saswavlebeli 

„galoba”; 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqos wm. 

Tamar mefis saxelobis universiteti; 

Tbilisis axali profesiuli 

koleji; 

Tbilisis wm. ilia marTlis gimnazia; 

Tbilisis wm. giorgi da eqvTime 

mTawmindelebis gimnazia; 

Tbilisis iveriis RvTismSoblis 

xatis sax. skola-gimnazia; 

Tbilisis niko bagrationis sax. 

Tavad-aznaurTa skola-liceumi; 

Tbilisis wm. keTilmsaxuri mefe 

Tamaris sax. skola-pansioni; 

mcxeTis Tormet mociqulTa 

saxelobis gimnazia; 

Zegvis bavSvTa saxli. 

quTais-gaenaTis eparqia 

gelaTis samecniero akademia; 

gelaTis sasuliero akademiaseminaria, 

saswavlebeli; 

quTaisis wm. axalmowameTa sax. 

gimnazia. 

baTumisa da lazeTis eparqia 

baTumisa da lazeTis eparqiis 

saganmanaTleblo centri: 

baTumis wminda ioane RvTismetyvelis 

sax. sasuliero seminaria; 

baTumis wm. andria pirvelwodebulis 

sax. skola; 

baTumis wm. mataTa mociqulis 

sax. mSobelTa mzrunvelobas moklebul 

bavSvTa gimnazia-pansioni; 

baTumis wm. panteleimon mkurnalis 

sax. smenadaqveiTebul bavSvTa 

baRi (inkluziuri swavlebiT); 

baTumis wm. ilia marTlis sax. 

sabavSvo baRi; 

Caqvis wm. mefe daviT aRmaSeneblis 

sax. skola; 

Caqvis wm. mefe Tamaris sax. sabavSvo 

baRi; 

baTumis wm. ekaterines sax. saTnoebis 

savane (moxucebulTa da 

invalidTa saxli); 

qobuleTis wm. kirion II-is sax. 

saganmanaTleblo marTlmadidebluri 

centri: 

qobuleTis wm. giorgis sax. skola; 

qobuleTis wm. giorgis sax. sabavSvo 

baRi; 

qobuleTis saerTaSoriso 

sazafxulo skola-banaki. 

wm. andria pirvelwodebulis 

sax. sasuliero swavlebis centri: 

wm. tbel abuseriZis gimnazia; 

wm. Teodore aWarelis sax. bagabaRi; 

xiWauris wm. grigol xanZTelis 

saxelobis skola; 

wm. abuseriZe tbelis sax. universiteti 

(xulo). 

WiaTurisa da saCxeris eparqia 

wm. gabriel episkoposis saxelobis 

gimnazia; 

WiaTuris wm. andria pirvelwodebulis 

sasuliero profesiuli 

swavlebis centri; 

sairxis (saCxeris r-ni) wm. ninos 

saxelobis sasuliero skola-pansioni. 

gorisa da samTavisis eparqia 

goris Rirsi mama giorgi mTawmindelis 

saxelobis . gimnazia. 

urbnisisa da ruisis eparqia 

qarelis wm. giorgi mTawmidelis 

sax. gimnazia. 

alaverdis eparqia 

Telavis wm. biZina, Salva da 

elizbaris saxelobis skola. 

nekresis eparqia 

gremis wm. abibos nekreselis 

saxelobis sasuliero seminaria; 

yvarlis wm. ilia marTlis saxelobis 

gimnazia. 

niqozisa da cxinvalis eparqia 

niqozis wm. aleqsandre oqropiriZis 

saxelobis saswavlebeli. 

dasavleT evropis eparqia 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqos 

dasavleT evropis eparqiis saganmanaTleblo-kulturuli 

centri 

(11 samrevlo skola evropis sxvadasxva 

qveyanaSi) 

margveTisa da ubisis eparqia 

zestafonis wm. svimeon kananelis 

sasuliero swavlebis centri: 

wm. ekaterines sax. sabavSvo bagabaRi; 

wm. ninos sax. sabavSvo baga-baRi; 

xaragaulis wm. andria pirvelwodebulis 

saxelobis gimnazia; 

suramisa da xaSuris eparqia 

xaSuris wm. eqvTime aTonelis 

saxelobis . sasuliero liceumi; 

xaSuris wm. dimitri yifianis 

saxelobis skola-pansioni. 

Semoqmedis eparqia 

ozurgeTis wm. ninos sax. samrevlo 

skola; 

ozurgeTis wm. gabriel episkoposis 

sax. skola; 

ozurgeTis wm. barbares sax. 

mcire saojaxo tipis saxli; 

ozurgeTis wm. marTali tabiTas 

sax. dRis centri; 

Coxatauris yovladwmida 

RvTismSoblis sax. saSualo skola; 

lanCxuTis wm. ioane naTlismcemlis 

sax. gimnazia; 

lanCxuTis qristefore gurulis 

sax. saojaxo tipis saxli. 

foTisa da xobis eparqia 

foTis saganmanaTleblo da 

kulturul-gamajansaRebeli centri: 

axali saqarTvelos universiteti: 

• marTlmadideblur saRvTismetyvelo 

mecnierebaTa fakulteti; 

• kavkasiuri filosofiisa da 

Teologiis samecniero-kvleviTi 

arqivi; 

foTis wm. grigol RvTismetyvelis 

saxelobis samrevlo saswavlebeli; 

foTis wm. nikolozis z/s saSualo 

skola. 

axalcixisa da tao-klarjeTis 

eparqia 

axalcixis sasuliero seminaria; 

udes wm. anTimoz iverielis sax. 

saSualo skola; 

aralis wm. egnate RmerTSemosilis 

sax. saSualo skola. 

samtrediisa da xonis eparqia 

samtrediis wm. mitropolit 

nazaris sax. marTlmadidebluri 

saSualo skola. 

vanisa da baRdaTis eparqia 

vanis wm. ninos sax. marTlmadidebluri 

gimnazia. 

axalqalaqisa da kumurdos 

eparqia 

axalqalaqisa da kumurdos 

eparqiis saswavlo centri; 

axalqalaqis wm. zosime kumurdoelis 

saxelobis sazogadoebrivi 

koleji; 

wm. ninos saxelobis saRvTismetyvelo 

saswavlebeli; 

axalqalaqisa da kumurdos eparqiis 

muzeumi; a(a)ip iakob gogebaSvilis 

saxelobis axalqalaqisa 

da kumurdos eparqiis sabavSvo 

baga-baRi; 

javaxeTis ninowmidis wm. ninos 

sax. obol da mSobelTa mzrunvelobas 

moklebul bavSvTa pansioni. 

gagrZeleba me-13 gv. 

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quTaisis amJamindeli central- 


uri moednis adgilze mdebareobda 

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quTaisis wmida keTilmsaxuri me- 

fis, daviT aRmaSeneblis saxelobis 

sakaTedro taZari (soboro), romelic 1924 wels bolSevikurma 

mTavrobam daangria. savardo da samaiso quTaiss saukuneebis gan- 

mavlobaSi uamrav mterTan uwevda gamklaveba da yvela mZime kvals 

tovebda qalaqze. saqarTvelos gasabWoebis Semdeg, roca bolSevikebi 

eklesia-monastrebs Seesivnen, quTaisis sakaTedro taZar- 

sac miadgnen da miwasTan gaaswores. mis adgilze leninis Zegli 

aRmarTes, eklesiis qvebi ki sasaflaos SemosaRobad gamoiyenes. 

quTaisis am tragikul periodze 

„qronika+”-s esaubreba isto- 

riul mecnierebaTa doqtoranti, 

Teologiisa da politologiis 

magistri _ laSa deisaZe-Sarva- 

SiZe: 

_ laSa, mogviyeviT sakaTedro 

taZarze, romelic bolSevikurma 

mTavrobam miwasTan gaaswora. 

_ taZari quTaisis amJamindeli 

centraluri moednis teritoriaze 

mdebareobda. misi agebis idea 

1851 wels gaCnda. mSenebloba cnobili 

rusi mxatvris, gagarinis gegmiT 

mimdinareobda, Tumca, samwuxarod, 

maleve SeCerda. 

meufe gabrielis (qiqoZe) mRvdelmTavrobisas, 

me-19 saukunis 60- 

70-ian wlebSi, quTaisis imdroindelma 

gubernatorma, levaSovma, 

glexobis SemowirulobiT taZari 

daasrula. episkoposma gabrielma 

taZari 1871 wels aleqsandre nevelis 

saxelze akurTxa. axal kaTedrals 

saarqielo (anu samRvdelmTavro) 

soboro ewoda. „soboro” 

Zv. slavuri sityvaa da sakaTedro 

taZars niSnavs. 

1920 wels ki taZari wmida keTilmsaxuri 

mefis, daviT aRmaSeneblis 

saxelobis gaxda, sadac uflis 

marTal sityvas qadagebdnen: imereTis 

episkoposi, wmida gabrieli 

(qiqoZe _ 1871-1896 ww.), imereTis 

episkoposi besarioni (dadiani _ 

1896-1900 ww.), imereTis episkoposi 

leonide (oqropiriZe, Semdgom 

sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi 

_ 1900-1908 ww.), imereTis 

episkoposi giorgi (aladaSvili, 

Semdgom Wyondideli da ba- 

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Tum-Semoqmedeli mitropoliti _ 

1908-1917 ww.), quTaTeli mitropoliti 

antoni (giorgaZe _ 1917-1918 

ww.), quTaTeli mitropoliti wmida 

nazari (leJava _ 1918-1923 ww.). 

1921 wlis TebervalSi, roca 

saqarTveloSi sabWoTa saokupacio 

aTeisturi mmarTveloba damyarda, 

bolSevikebi gaafTrebiT ebrZodnen 

qristes eklesias. ixureboda 

eklesia-monastrebi, sicocxles 

asalmebdnen sasuliero pirebs, 

ber-monazvnebs, idevnebodnen morwmuneni. 

maT veragobas verc quTaisis sakaTedro 

taZari gadaurCa da 1923 

wlis 8 marts quTais-gaenaTis eparqias 

CamoerTva soboros kaTedrali, 

romlis gumbaTidan imave 

dRes Camoxsnes jvari, taZridan 

gamoitanes wmida xatebi da Seuracxyves. 

swored am saSinel dRes 

aTeistebma taZarTan mitingi Caatares. 

„eklesias moswyda jvari, romlis 

nacvlad afrialebul iqna 

wiTeli droSa, romelsac mxurvale 

taSis cemiT, ovaciebiT da 

„internacionalis” himniT Sexvdnen. 

aqve dadgenil iqna, rom kvlav 

gagrZeldes aseTi brZola crumorwmuneobis 

winaaRmdeg da mitingi 

daiSala. am dRis Semdeg es 

„soboro” komkavSiris quTaisis 

samazro komitetis gankarguleba- 

Sia”, _ werda gazeTi „muSa da 

glexi” 1923 wels. 

kidev erTi mniSvnelovani Canaweri 

arsebobs. es gaxlavT saqarTvelos 

komunisturi partiis quTaisis 

samazro komitetis 1924 wlis 

30 ianvris dadgenileba: 

„dairRves sakaTedro taZari 

(soboro). masala gamoyenebul iqnas 

ZmaTa sasaflaos SemosaRobad. 

im adgilze gafarTovdes moedani 

da taZris adgilze daidgas amxanag 

leninis Zegli”. 

_ am qvebiT agebuli galavani 

dResac arsebobs? 

_ diax. am sasaflaos adgilze 

dRes ninoSvilis baRi-skveria, romelic 

swored am taZris qvebisgan 

agebuli galavniTaa SemosazRvruli. 

_ im dros protestis gamoxat- 

va sikvdilze wasvlas niSnavda, 

Tumca, amis miuxedavad, maSindel- 

ma sazogadoebam am vandalizms 

winaaRmdegoba gauwia? 

_ sapyrobilidan axalganTavisuflebulma 

quTaTelma mitro- 

èklesias moswyda jvari, romlis nacvlad 

afrialebul iqna wiTeli droSa, romelsac 

mxurvale taSis cemiT, ovaciebiT da 

ìnternacionalis~ himniT Sexvdnen. aqve dadgenil 

iqna, rom kvlav gagrZeldes aseTi brZola 

crumorwmuneobis winaaRmdeg da mitingi daiSala. 

am dRis Semdeg es `soboro~ komkavSiris quTaisis 

samazro komitetis gankargulebaSia~, - werda 

gazeTi `muSa da glexi~ 1923 wels~ 

quTaisis wmida mTavarangelozTa 

saxelobis taZari (mdebareobda 

quTaisis meriis gverdiT amJamad 

arsebuli Sromis memorialis 

adgilze) - daangria komunisturma 

mTavrobam 1944 wels 

politma nazarma (leJava) meore 

dRes, 31 ianvars, bolSevikur saokupacio 

reJims mimarTva gaugzavna: 

„quTaisis sakaTedro taZris 

daketvam ZaZebiT Semosa morwmuneebi, 

xolo misi dangreva ueWvelad 

sasowarkveTilebaSi Caagdebs 

da sarwmunoebriv aRSfoTebas gamoiwvevs 

araTu quTaisis morwmune- 

Ta, aramed imereTis naxevarmilion 

morwmuneTa Soris. aseTi sarwmunoebrivi 

grZnobis Selaxva ar momxdara 

araTu Cvens mezobel somxeTisa 

da azerbaijanis respublikebSi, 

aramed arc ruseTSi, sadac 

dRes sarwmunoebrivi cxovreba 

duRs da gadaduRs. sruli imedi 

unda viqonioT, rom samarTlianobis 

safuZvelze ar unda moxdes 

arc saqarTveloSi”. 

bolSevikebma arc quTaiseli sazogado 

moRvawis, publicist trifon 

jafariZis Txovna Seismines, 

rom taZarSi muzeumi mowyobiliyo 

da igi ar daengriaT. 1924 wlis 

zafxulSi mTavrobam taZari mTlianad 

daangria _ miwasTan gaaswora. 

_ eklesia qveynis siwminde da 

ganZia, am taZars ki Cveni qvey- 

nisTvis sxva datvirTvac hqonda. 

amis Sesaxebac mogviyeviT. 

_ taZari gaxldaT kaTedrali, 

Tan iseTi umniSvnelovanesi eparqiisa, 

rogoric iyo jer imereTisa 

da Semdeg quTaisis samRvdelmTavro, 

romelic saqarTvelos eklesiis 

erT-erTi uZvelesi eparqia 

gaxlavT da misi daarsebis TariRad 

me-9 saukune moiazreba. Sesabamisad, 

aseTi uZvelesi eparqiis 

kaTedrali, miT umetes, bagratis 

taZris adgilmonacvle, mniSvnelovani 

iyo Tavisi sidiadiT. 

_ bevrma ar icis, rom quTaisis 

centralur moedanze SeiZleba 

mRvdelmTavrebis saflavebzec 

daabijebdes. romeli sasuliero 

pirebi ganisveneben iq? 

_ quTaisis sakaTedro taZarSi 

dakrZaluli iyo saqarTvelos eklesiis 

ori mRvdelmTavari: imere- 

Tis episkoposi besarioni (dadiani), 

romelic 1896-1900 wlebSi mwyemsmTavrobda 

imereTis eparqias 

da saqarTvelos samociqulo mar- 

Tlmadidebeli eklesiis avtokefaliuri 

moZraobis upirvelesi 

lideri, avtokefaliis aRdgenis 

erT-erTi Semoqmedi, saqarTvelos 

eklesiis avtokefaliis aRdgenis 

aqtis avtori, quTaTeli mitropoliti 

antoni (giorgaZe), romelic 

zustad erTi weliwadi mwyemsmTavrobda 

quTaisis uZveles samitropolito 

kaTedras. 

mitropoliti antoni 52 wlis 

quTaisis sakaTedro taZari (soboro) - daangries 

uRmerTo bolSevikebma 1924 wels 

quTaisis sakaTedro 

taZris gumbaTidan 

jvris Camoxsna 

bolSevikTa mier, 1923 

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mRvdelmTavris tragikuli istoria 

quTaTeli mitropoliti antoni 

(giorgaZe) - dakrZaluli iyo quTaisis 

sakaTedro taZarSi (soboroSi) 

`mitropolits saflavSi medalioni Caayoles~ 

iyo, roca 1918 wlis 18 seqtembers 

is sakuTarma siZem, qaliSvilis 

meuRlem, nikalai redigerma mowamla. 

meufe antoni 24 seqtembers 

quTaisis sakaTedro taZarSi dakr- 

Zales. mRvdelmTavrebis saflavebi 

dResac am teritoriaze, anu 

quTaisis centralur moedanzea. 

_ taZris dangrevamde ratom 

ar gadaasvenes isini? 

_ bolSevikuri mTavroba qristes 

eklesias ideologiur mtrad 

miiCnevda _ is sdevnida da Seuracxyofda 

sasuliero ierarqiis warmomadgenlebs, 

rogorc amqveynad 

myofebs, ise _ gardacvlilebs. Sesabamisad, 

maT arafrad miaCndaT 

taZarSi mRvdelmTavarTa saflavebis 

yofna. maTTvis es faseulobas 

ar warmoadgenda. taZari miwasTan 

gaaswores da iq ra iyo, arc ainteresebdaT. 

Tan mitropoliti antoni 

mkveTrad antirusuli ganwyobis 

gaxldaT, aqtiur winaaRmdegobas 

uwevda ruseTis imperias. 

aqve aRvniSnav, rom 2018 wlis 18 

seqtembers 100 weli Sesrulda 

mitropolit antonis gardacvalebidan. 

am dRes quTaisis centralur 

moedanze mivedi da yvavilebis 

gvirgvini mivitane. amgvarad mivage 

pativi saqarTvelos eklesiis avtokefaliis 

aRdgenis erT-erT 

mTavar Semoqmeds. 

_ aravis ufiqria, rom mRvde- 

lmTavrebis saflavebi moeZebnaT 

da neStebi saTanado adgilze 

daekrZalaT? 

_ samwuxarod, ara! es sakiTxi 

arc am etapze ganixileba. maSin 

moedani mTlianad unda gadaiTxaros. 

aRsaniSnavia, rom mitropolits 

saflavSi medalioni Caayoles. 

ase rom, neStis aRmoCenis SemTxvevaSi 

igi advili amosacnobi iqneba. 

_ sakaTedro taZris Semdeg 

sabWoTa xelisufleba quTaisis 

mTavarangelozTa saxelobis ek- 

lesiasac miadga da daangria. is 

ra adgilze idga? 

_ quTaisis meriis gverdiT, 

axla rom Sromis memorialia. mTavarangelozTa 

saxelobis taZari 

1450 wels aigo da didi xnis ganmavlobaSi 

quTaisSi, mdinare rionis 

marcxena sanapiroze arsebuli 

erTaderTi taZari gaxldaT. dro- 

Jamis msvlelobam Zveli taZari daaziana 

da axlis aSeneba gaxda saWiro. 

1829 wels dekanozma iese giorgaZem 

werilobiT mimarTa imereTis 

mTavarepiskoposs, rom axali taZris 

agebis neba daerTo. 

imereTis episkoposi besarioni 

(dadiani) - dakrZaluli iyo quTaisis 

sakaTedro taZarSi (soboroSi) 

me-19 saukunis pirvel naxevar- 

Si am adgilze axali taZari aaSenes 

da igi 1840 wels akurTxes. am taZarSi 

araerTi qadageba aqvs warmo- 

Tqmuli wmida mRvdelmTavar gabriels 

(qiqoZe). aqve msaxurobdnen 

cnobili sasuliero pirebi: dekanozi 

raJden gigauri, dekanozi 

korneli kekeliZe (1905 wels; SemdgomSi 

cnobili akademikosi, Zveli 

qarTuli literaturis mkvlevari, 

Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis 

erT-erTi damaarsebeli) 

da sxvani... 

_ wmida mTavarangelozTa sax- 

elobis taZris galavanSi sasaflao 

mdebareobda, romelic erTgvari 

panTeoni iyo. iq dakrZalu- 

li iyvnen gamoCenili pirovnebi: 

saba kldiaSvili, samson Tofuria, 

dimitri nazariSvili da sxvebi. 

maT saflavebs ra bedi ewia? 

_ komunistebma taZari 1944 

wels daangries. am SemTxvevaSi ma- 

Ti neStebi sxvadasxva sasaflaoze 

gadaasvenes (ZiriTadad, mwvaneyvavilas 

panTeonSi), Tumca zogier- 

Ti saflavi ar gauxsniaT da im 

adgilze dResac ramdenime saflavia. 

iqve mdebare saxecvlili qvis 

galavani swored xsenebuli taZris 

galavnis naSTia. 

wmida mTavarangelozTa taZars 

samrekloc hqonda, romelic taZris 

dangrevidan erT weliwadSi, 

1945 wels daangries da im adgilze 

Sromis memoriali aages, romelic, 

rogorc ukve vTqviT, dResac arsebobs. 

_ eklesiis qvebi sad waiRes? 

_ misi qvebi gamoiyenes quTaisis 

qalaqkomis, amJamindeli meriis 

Senobis asagebad. dRes quTaisis 

meriis SenobaSi moqmedi taZari 

swored dangreuli eklesiis adgilmonacvlea. 

rodesac Senobis 

erT-erTi kedeli gaxsnes, rom eklesiisTvis 

kari gaekeTebinaT, im 

adgilze qva aRmoCnda jvris bareliefiT, 

romelic swored dangreuli 

taZris iyo. Zveli taZris 

sxva qvebic aRmoaCines da dRes es 

siwmindeebi mis karibWesTan aris 

gamofenili. 

saqarTvelos eklesiis 25 miliardi da ukidegano gavlena 

me-11 gverdidan 

zugdidisa da caiSis eparqia 

zugdidis wm. giorgis sax. gimnazia; 

cagerisa da lentexis eparqia 

cageris wm. ilia marTlis sax. gimnazia; 

cageris wm. maqsime aRmsareblis sax. sasuliero 

seminaria; 

lentexis wm. giorgi mTawmindelis sax. 

gimnazia. 

mestiisa da zemo svaneTis eparqia 

mestiis qristianuli kulturis centri; 

mestiis wm. ilarion qarTvelis sax. mar- 

Tlmadidebluri skola-gimnazia. 

bolnisis eparqia 

bolnisis wm. ioane bolnelis sax. sasuliero 

skola. 

senakisa da Cxorowyus eparqia 

senakis Rirsi aleqsi SuSanias sax. skola-gimnazia. 

Wyondidis eparqia 

martvilis wm. ambrosi xelaias saSualo 

skola. 

stefanwmindisa da xevis eparqia 

stefanwmidis wm. ilia marTlis saxelobis 

gimnazia-pansioni. 

sapatriarqo aseve flobs televiziasa 

da radios. 

*** 

rogorc masalis mzadebisas gairkva, 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqo dRes warmoadgens 

finansurad yvelaze SeZlebul institucias, 

romlis qonebis Sewonili fasi, daaxloebiT, 

25 miliard aSS dolars aRemateba. 

eqspertebis nawili ufro met, zogi ki 

nakleb Tanxas asaxelebs. am CamonaTvalSi ar 

Sedis saeklesio saganZuri, romelsac sapatriarqo 

flobs. 

Sesabamisad, eklesia saxelmwifoSi yvelaze 

mZlavri instituciaa, romlis qoneba 

da materializebuli gavlena bevrad aRemateba 

saxelmwifoSi arsebuli romelime 

erTi instituciisa Tu instituciebis gavlenasa 

da dovlaTs. 

am pirobebSi sainteresoa, ainazRaura Tu 

ara saqarTvelos eklesiam ruseTisa da sab- 

WoTa kavSiris mier miyenebuli materialuri 

zarali da, minimum, sabiujeto saxsrebiT 

ramdeni weli unda afinansos saxelmwifom 

sapatriarqo, jerac dauTvleli, gastumrebuli 

Tu gaustumrebeli zianis sababiT? 

marTlmadidebeli eklesia ar aris eklesiis 

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yvelasi, visac swams ufali. rwmenis si- 

Zliere da siwminde ar ganisazRvreba adgiliT 

saeklesio ierarqiaSi da arc eklesiisTvis 

Sewiruli oqro-vercxliT. 

„vercxlismoyvaris gulisTqmani da 

grZnobani iq aris, sadac misi simdidrea. 

ganuwyvetliv imaze fiqrobs, rogor daicvas 

da gazardos Tavisi qoneba... mkvdari da 

civia misi locva. es martooden garegnuli 

misagebelia RvTisadmi, radgan vercxlismoyvare 

ara uflis, aramed fulis mimarT 

sasoebs, misTvis igi qceula RmerTad. vercxlismoyvaris 

guli qvasaviT magaria. masze, 

iseve, rogorc foladis saWreTeli _ 

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_ arqimandriti rafaeli (karelini). 

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gundi, _ erTi nawili samarTliani sasamarTlosTvis „ibrZvis”, 

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ki lieJSi evropas Cveni realuri saxe davanaxeT, qveyana- 

Si arsebuli problemebi ki ucvleli rCeba. ra saxis dapirispirebaa 

mmarTvel gundSi? kargavs Tu ara avtoritets ivaniSvili 

sazogadoebasa da partiaSi? ra safrTxe emuqreba „qar- 

Tul ocnebas” da rogor unda moqmedebdes opozicia? 

aRniSnul TemebTan dakav- 

SirebiT „qronika+~ eqspert ma- 

muka areSiZes esaubra: 

_ erTi nawilis azriT „qarTul 

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ispireba ganpirobebulia „Zvelebsa” 

da „axlebs” Soris gavlenebisTvis 

brZoliT, meore nawili 

ki fiqrobs, rom es ivaniS- 

vilis mmarTvelobis stilia da 

periodulad is wmendas axor- 

cielebs. rogor fiqrobT, ra 

aris amis mizezi? 

_ principSi, sxvadasxva doziT 

orive Teoria sworia. oRond 

viRacas rom warmoudgenia, ivaniSvili 

mxolod amaze muSaobs, 

rasakvirvelia, ase ar aris. metic: 

es adamianis bunebaa. roca 

saqarTvelos politikur cxovrebas 

vakvirdebi, yovelTvis ase 

iyo, qveynis lideri mudmivad 

cdilobda, rom politikurad 

aqtiur sazogadoebaSi erTmane- 

Tis mowinaaRmdege jgufebi Seeqmna, 

amasTanave isini ar iqnebodnen 

mis winaaRmdeg gaerTianebulebi. 

rac Seexeba wmendis process, 

amas ase ver davarqmev, radgan 

yoveli wmendis dawyebamde 

winaaRmdegoba warmoiSva maSin, 

roca adamianebi, romlebic 2012 

wlis RonisZiebebSi ar monawileobdnen, 

uceb partiaSi mmarTvel 

Tanamdebobebze gaCndnen. amitom 

am winaaRmdegobis warmoSoba absoluturad 

logikuri iyo, ar 

mikvirs. 90-iani wlebis bolo 

periodi rom gavixseno, daaxloebiT, 

igive xdeboda. axalgazrde- 


bi, romlebic aqtiurad ar Candnen, 

uceb gamoCndnen. zurab Jvania 

da gia baramiZe Candnen, Tumca 

danarCeni _ ara da maTi aRzeveba 

moulodneli iyo, komitetebisa 

da fraqciebis Tavmjdomareebi 

gaxdnen. rasakvirvelia, 

maSinve daiwyo winaaRmdegoba 

veteranebsa da „axlebs” Soris. 

SevardnaZem amis Taobaze ifiqra 

Tu ara, ar vici. 

_ warsulis magaliTi gaixseneT 

da TqviT, rom am SemTx- 

vevaSi „qarTuli ocneba” gamonaklisi 

ar aris, Tumca ram gana- 

piroba dapirispirebis gamZa- 

freba _ „axlebis 

axlebis” ambiciebma? 

_ 2016 wlis mowvevis parlamentSi 

es procesi safuZvelSive 

iyo Cadebuli, rom veteranebsa 

da „axlebs” Soris dapirispireba 

daiwyeboda. rodesac irakli 

kobaxiZem, arCil TalakvaZem da 

mamuka mdinaraZem wamyvani postebi 

daikaves, es ukve naRmi iyo, 

romelic aucileblad gamoiwvevda 

jaxs. es jaxi moxda, magram, 

rasakvirvelia, dapirispirebas 

mdored mimdinare forma hqonda 

_ gareT ar gamodioda, magram 

rogorc ki ramdenime faqti moxda, 

rodesac maTi azrebi gaiyo, 

imwuTSive mTeli ZaliT ifeTqa. 

_ marTulia Tu ara es dapir- 

ispireba? 

_ roca partiis xelmZRvaneloba 

calsaxad erT mxares emxroba, 

rasakvirvelia, marTulia. 

ver vityvi, realurad marTulia 

Tu ara, magram garedan ase Cans. 

_ ramdenime faqti axseneT, 

roca „Zvelebsa 

Zvelebsa” da „axlebs 

axlebs” 

Soris azrebi gaiyo. erT-erTi 

mosamarTleebis Tema iyo, rasac 

beselias xmauriani gamosvlebi 

moyva, Tumca sazogadoebis did 

nawilSi is mainc arasando fig- 

urad miiCneva, romelmac mosa- 

marTleebis Tema saTavisod gam- 

oiyena. Tqveni gadmosaxedidan, 

realurad, ra moxda? 

_ sazogadoebaSi arsebobs 

azri, rom beselias gavlenebi, 

zogadad, Sesustda da amis gamo 

man es gza airCia. SesaZloa, asec 

aris, imis mtkicebas ver daviwyeb, 

rom ase ar aris, magram beselias 

Zalian kargad vicnob da 

misi logikidan gamomdinare, SemiZlia 

giTxraT, rom beselia im 

yaidis adamiania, romelsac situaciis 

marTva SeuZlia. Tu is situacias 

marTavs, arasdros gamoitans 

saaSkaraoze problemas, 

magram problemis gamotana, sxvaTa 

Soris, sasamarTloebidan 

ar dawyebula. pirvel rigSi es 

antidiskriminaciul kanonTan 

dakavSirebiT daiwyo, roca gedevan 

fofxaZem saprotesto gamosvla 

moawyo. darwmunebuli iyaviT, 

rom igi beseliasTan iyo SeTanxmebuli. 

fofxaZe marto amas 

ar gaakeTebda. 

_ Tqven TqviT, rom beselias 

situaciis marTva SeuZlia, Tumca, 

rogorc Cans, axla sadavee- 

bi gaeqca. man dapirispirebis 

dasawyisSi Tqva, rom brifingze 

yvelafers farda aexdeboda. 

molodini gaCnda, rom is raRac 

Zalian mniSvnelovans ityoda, 

Tumca ukan daixia. rogor fiqr- 

obT, ratom ar midis is Ria da- 

pirispirebaze? ar uRirs ivaniS- 

vilTan konfrontacia? 

_ Tu vinme unda iyos nawyeni 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelmZRvanelobaze, 

erT-erTi me var, magram 

Cem mimarT ganviTarebul procesebs 

obieqturad vafaseb. us- 

mamuka areSiZe: 

ìvaniSvilma 

`xanZari~ droze 

Tu ver Caaqro, 

Zalian cudi 

Sedegebi dadgeba~ 

amarTloba, enis mitan-motana ki 

bevri iyo, magram ivaniSvils ver 

davukargav, rac, Tavis droze, 

gaakeTa. ratom, risTvis gaakeTa 

es, es misi saqmea. yovel SemTxvevaSi, 

rodesac ivaniSvilis qmedebas 

vakritikeb premierobidan 

misi wasvlis Sesaxeb, yovelTvis 

viTvaliswineb, rac man gaakeTa. 

ar var qameleoni adamiani. garda 

amisa, politikosis cxovreba- 

Si arsebobs termini: taqtika. 

beselias is fraza, romelic 

Tqven axseneT, rom yvelafers 

ityoda, es iyo erTgvari taqtikuri, 

gamafrTxilebeli demarSi, 

rom mavans gaego. rogoc Cans, 

mavanma gaigo da, sxvaTa Soris, 

mosamarTleebis arCevasTan dakavSirebiT 

kategoriuloba sagrZnoblad 

Sesustda, Tundac kobaxiZis 

mxridan. gamgebma, radgan 

gaigo, e. i. misma gafrTxilebam 

misamarTi hpova, aqedan gamomdinare, 

beseliam taqtika Secvala 

da sxvanairad moiqca. beselia 

yovelTvis ivaniSvilis uerTgulesi 

kadri iyo, bolos da bolos, 

misi advokati gaxldaT. beselia 

ase martivad arasodes 

wava ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg. garda 

amisa, saprotestod ganwyobili 

Zveli Taoba Zalian kargad 

acnobierebs erT faqts, rom nebismieri 

agresiuli demarSi partiaSi 

ganxeTqilebas gamoiwvevs. 

kargi iqneba, Tu amas „axlebic” 

gaacnobiereben. ganxeTqileba 

partiaSi ki metoqos wisqvilze 

asxams wyals, amitom, taqtikidan 

gamomdinare, beselias nabiji xan 

mwvavea, xan _ pasiuri. es CemTvis 

absoluturad gasagebia. 

_ qronologiurad rom 

mivyveT, beselias xan mwvave da 

xan pasiur taqtikas piradi cx- 

ovrebis amsaxveli kadrebis gav- 

rceleba moyva, rasac zogierTi 

„nacionalur moZraobas” ukav- 

Sirebs, zogic _ Tavad „oc- 

nebas”. visTan midis kvali? 

_ drois simciris Tu sxva 

ramis gamoa, ar vici, magram faqtia, 

rom aqcentebi arasworad 

keTdeba. „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

mTliani organizmi xom ar 

aris, rom, maincdamainc, miSam 

iqidan gasces brZaneba da aq Seasrulon. 

„nacionaluri moZraobis” 

rigiTma wevrma, romelsac 

yelSi amouvida beselia da „qarTuli 

ocneba”, SeiZleba, es kadrebi 

gaavrcela. sxva sakiTxia, 

rogor moxvda es kadrebi xalx- 

Si: is, rom kadrebi ganadgurda 

an isea daculi, rom wvdoma 

aravis aqvs _ es blefia. kadrebi 

manamdec gavrcelda, 2012 wels, 

mas Semdeg, rac axali xelisufleba 

movida da viTom es kadrebi 

ganadgurda. maSin sxva qalbatonze 

gavrcelda kadrebi. 2013 

wels icodnen, rom „tips” Tavis 

kompiuterSi hqonda Senaxuli. 

meore mxriv, araerTma Zalovanma, 

romelic saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi 

iyo da Semdeg sazRvargareT 

gaiqca, am kadrebis nawili 

Tan waiyola. magaliTad, „mastera”, 

romelic 2014-2015 wleb- 

Si belgiaSi imyofeboda. dainaxes, 

rom „qarTul ocnebaSi” dapirispireba 

midis da mis gasaRrmaveblad 

gamoaqveynes. sazogadoebis 

nawils ki misamarTi 

misces, TiTqos es kobaxiZis gundis 

namuSevaria. 

_ lieJSi momxdar samarcxvi- 

no ambavzec minda gkiTxoT, romelSic 

orive mxares Tavisi wv- 

lili miuZRvis. risTvis sWirde 

de- 

boda „ocnebas” aseTi maskaradis 

dadgma? SeeSindaT, Tu saWirod 

miiCnies saakaSvilisTvis Tavian- 

Ti upiratesobis Cveneba? 

_ rodesac Seni mowinaaRmdege 

rasac unda, imas akeTebs, Sen 

ki am dros pasuxs ar scem, es Seni 

sisustis maCvenebeli aris Tu 

ara? warmoidgineT, rom mixeil 

saakaSvili mTeli msoflios mas- 

StabiT emigrantebTan Sexvedras 

atarebs da „qarTuli ocnebis” 

xelmZRvaneloba, qveynis mTavroba, 

xmas ver iRebs. 

_ ver iRebs ara, ufro log- 

ikuria, ar uRirs da amitomac 

ar iRebs xmas... 

_ masStabs gaaCnia. filade- 

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`qarTul ocnebas" seriozuli problemebi 

Seeqmneba, Tuki "ocnebidan" gasulebiT 

dakompleqtebuli axali fraqcia 

Camoyalibdeba. saparlamento cxovrebis 

weliwad-naxevari rCeba. amis daSveba araviTar 

SemTxvevaSi ar SeiZleba~ 

14 N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w.

lfiaSi Zalian didi RonisZieba 

gaimarTa. ar vici, vinc lieJSi 

Cavida, yvela „qarTuli ocnebis” 

mier iyo Tu ara gagzavnili, magram 

Jurnalistebi rom namdvilad 

iqnebodnen am mizniT Casulebi, 

es cxadia. magaliTad, 

ramiSvili. lieJSi SeiZleba 250 

kaci iyo, magram Tu qalaqebs CamovTvliT, 

ramdenSi gaimarTa es 

RonisZieba _ ukve masStaburi 

saxe aqvs. gasagebia, rom orive 

mxarem Caiyvana xalxi, orive mxare 

erTmaneTs zonders eZaxis, 

ar momwons, rom „qarTulma ocnebam” 

gadaiRo is, rasac „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” akeTebda. zonderebis 

garda iq sxva adamianebic 

iyvnen, ramdenime kaci 

vnaxe, romelic saqarTvelodan 

miSas mmarTvelobis periodSi 

gaiqca. es adamianebi marTla aprotestebdnen. 

saboloo jamSi, samarcxvino 

ambavi moxda da amis 

yureba sasiamovno ar iyo. Tumca 

mainc vfiqrob, rom „ocnebas” es 

faqti reagirebis gareSe ar unda 

daetovebina, im qveynebSi, sadac 

Sexvedrebi tardeboda. magram 

kontraqciis mowyoba sxvanairad 

SeiZleboda, anu mixeil saakaSvilis 

mowinaaRmdege emigrantebis 

mobilizebiT. aseTi emigrantebi 

ki evropaSi uamravia. im „zonderebidan”, 

romelic „rusTavi 2- 

ma” aCvena, erT-erTi namdvilad 

ar iyo iq Casuli. imaT aqeT ratom 

Camohyva, ar vici. erT-erTi 

sportsmeni iq didi xania, aris. 

rasakvirvelia, SeiZleboda emigrantebis 

mobilizacia, SeiZleboda 

aseve mxolod Jurnalistebis 

gagzavnac. roca mekiTxebiT, 

risTvis dasWirdaT am adamianebis 

wayvanao, gpasuxobT, rom es 

minusi iyo da ar iyo kargad organizebuli. 

yvelafer amis gake- 

Teba SeiZleboda evropuli resursiT 

_ „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

mowinaaRmdege emigrantebiT. 

anu xelisuflebas ufro civilizebulad 

unda gaeca pasuxi. 

_ mas Semdeg, rac beselias 

misamarTiT xmauri atyda, aqtiurad 

daiwyo saubari, rom Sesa- 

Zloa, man calke partia Seqmnas 

an fraqciad gamoeyos Tavis 

ramdenime TanamoazresTan er- 

Tad. Tqven axseneT, rom beselias 

taqtikasa da logikas kar- 

gad icnobT. ramdenad realuri 

da logikuri svla iqneba bese- 

lias mxridan msgavsi nabiji? 

_ sasamarTlo TemasTan dakav- 

SirebiT beseliasa da misi Tanamoazreebis 

umravlesobaSi yofna 

aucilebelia. „qarTulma ocnebam” 

sasamarTlo im formiT, ra 

formiTac sawyis etapze Semogv- 

Tavaza, gansakuTrebiT ki iusticiis 

mTavarma sabWom mosamarTleebis 

arCevis wesi, _ am formebis 

miReba arafriT SeiZleba. im 

xalxis gaSveba ar SeiZleba. beselia 

ukidures nabijze wavida, 

rom Tqva, saerTod SevaCeroT 

mosamarTleebis uvadod daniSvnao. 

mosamarTleebis uvadod 

daniSvnis akrZalva ewinaaRmdegeba 

konstituciis mTel logikas, 

Tumca, praqtikulad, gamosavali 

ar dautoves. samwuxarod, saapelacio 

sasamarTloSi uvadod 

daniSnulTa Soris iseTi mosamarTleebi 

„gaiparnen”, romlebic 

sazogadoebisTvis absoluturad 

miuRebelia. xSirad miTqvams 

da kidev erTxel vimeoreb: murusiZis 

gancxadeba, rom dRevandeli 

xelisufleba sasamarTlos 

ebrZvis, es mtknari sicruea. 

dRevandeli xelisufleba, politikuri 

Zalebi Tu politikosebi 

sasamarTlos ki ar ebrZvian, 

am sasamarTlo jgufSi konkretul 

pirovnebebs ebrZvian. es 

konkretuli jgufi ki farad 

iyenebs danarCen mosamarTleebs. 

sxva mosamarTleebs vesaubre da 

isini amboben, iseTi STabeWdileba 

gvrCeba, TiTqos saqarTvelo- 

Si saerTod ar varsebobT, aravin 

arafers gvekiTxeba, murusiZem 

cxvrebiviT migviwvia mosamarTleTa 

konferenciaze da Cveni 

saxeliT saubrobdao. bunebrivi 

SekiTxva gamiCnda, _ ratom ar amoiReT 

xma-meTqi? da pirdapir 

miTxres, _ Cvens amJamindel mdgomareobas 

vufrTxildebiTo. 

adamianis bunebaa _ zogs saku- 

Tari poziciis xmamaRla dafiqsirebis 

eSinia. kiTxvas rom davubrundeT, 

umravlesobidan 

maTi gamosvla, am etapze, swori 

ar iqneba. Tu zogierTma politikurma 

figuram mainc moindoma 

im arCevis wesis gatana, romelsac 

sazogadoeba aprotestebs, 

e. i. beseliasa da mis Tanamoazreebs 

sxva gamosavali ar eqnebaT 

da unda gavidnen. 

_ sazogadoebis did nawils 

beselias misamarTiT negatiuri 

damokidebuleba aqvs. gamoyofis 

SemTxvevaSi mis gunds, cxadia, 

gansakuTrebuli 

finansuri 

resursi ar eqneba da sazogadoebis 

mxardaWeriTac ver isarge- 

blebs. Tqven raime perspeqtivas 

xedavT? 

_ uzarmazari mxardaWera eqneba. 

_ ra gaZlevT imis safuZvels, 

rom beselias mxardaWera eqne- 

ba? 

_ beseliaSi ara, ambavSia saqme. 

am ambis win rom „petre” idges, 

SeiZleba, 100%-iani mxardaWera 

hqondes, magram beselias SemTx- 


vevaSi 50%-iani mxardaWera iqneba. 

mTeli socialuri da sazogadoebrivi 

jgufebi aRSfoTebulebi 

arian „qarTuli ocnebis” 

SecdomebiT. sasamarTlos saqme 

iyo „bolis gamoSvebis” erT-er- 

Ti centraluri faqtori. es adamianebi 

TavianT ganwyobebs, Tundac, 

eleqtronuli mediiT gamoxatavdnen, 

Tumca axla es yvelaferi 

konsolidirebulad moxda. 

amas ematebian woniani parlamentarebi. 

aqedan gamomdinare, 

droSas vin aiRebs xelSi, amas 

gadamwyveti mniSvneloba ar aqvs. 

mTavaria ara gza, aramed mizani. 

mizani aris is, rom sasamarTlo 

aseTi formiT ar Sedges. „ocnebam” 

es nabiji ar unda gadadgas. 

_ arsebuli viTarebidan Cans, 

rom swored am nabijs gadadgams 

da Tu es moxda, ra politikuri 

fasis gadaxda mouwevs? 

_ darwmunebuli var, midgomas 

gadaxedaven. imeds vitoveb, mosamarTleobis 

is kandidatebi, 

romlebzec dRes vsaubrobT, ver 

gavlen. am imeds ara mxolod sazogadoebis 

saprotesto muxti 

maZlevs, aramed Cveni dasavleli 

partniorebis poziciebic, romelsac 

aseve kargad vicnob. mgonia, 

visac sxvanairi midgomebi 

ufro ainteresebs, nawilobriv 

viRacebis gayvana SeiZleba moindomon, 

magram wonian figurebs 

ver gaiyvanen, magaliTad, iseTs 

rogoric murusiZea. „qarTul 

ocnebas” seriozuli problemebi 

Seeqmneba, Tuki „ocnebidan” 

gasulebiT dakompleqtebuli 

axali fraqcia Camoyalibdeba. saparlamento 

cxovrebis weliwadnaxevari 

rCeba. amis daSveba araviTar 

SemTxvevaSi ar SeiZleba. 

_ qveyanaSi da „qarTul oc- 

nebaSi” Seqmnili viTarebidan 

gamomdinare migaCniaT Tu ara 

saWirod ivaniSvilis premier- 

ministris postze dabruneba? 

_ dausrulebeli saubaria 

araformalur mmarTvelobaze. 

ar mimaCnia araformalur mmar- 

Tvelobad partiis lideris mier 

gacemuli direqtivebi. rac Seexeba 

murusiZe-CinCalaZes, magas 

namdvilad ver vityvi, rom es 

ambavi ivaniSvilis gareSe xdeba, 

magram xSirad iseTi politikuri 

nabijebi idgmeba, romelic mas- 

Tan SeTanxmebuli ar yofila, 

rac, sxvaTa Soris, cudia. 

_ anu Tqven ambobT, rom 

ivaniSvils ufro metad unda 

uTanxmebdnen gadawyvetilebebs 

da igi ufro aqtiurad unda 

iyos CarTuli? 

_ rasakvirvelia, Tu marTav, 

bolomde unda marTo _ swored 

`sasamarTlo TemasTan dakavSirebiT beseliasa da misi Tanamoazreebis 

umravlesobaSi yofna aucilebelia. `qarTulma ocnebam~ sasamarTlo im 

formiT, ra formiTac sawyis etapze SemogvTavaza, gansakuTrebiT ki 

iusticiis mTavarma sabWom mosamarTleebis arCevis wesi, - am formebis miReba 

arafriT SeiZleba. im xalxis gaSveba ar SeiZleba. beselia ukidures nabijze 

wavida, rom Tqva, saerTod SevaCeroT mosamarTleebis uvadod daniSvnao. 

mosamarTleebis uvadod daniSvnis akrZalva ewinaaRmdegeba konstituciis 

mTel logikas, Tumca, praqtikulad, gamosavali ar dautoves. samwuxarod, 

saapelacio sasamarTloSi uvadod daniSnulTa Soris iseTi mosamarTleebi 

`gaiparnen~, romlebic sazogadoebisTvis absoluturad miuRebelia~ 

es aris xelmZRvanelis pasuxismgebloba. 

arsebobs evropuli 

tipis partiebi, romelic naklebad 

ereva mTavrobis muSaobaSi. 

amavdroulad, arsebobs sxva tipis 

partiebic, roca maTi xelmZRvaneloba 

an TviTon xdeba 

mTavrobis meTauri, an ereva 

mTavrobis muSaobaSi. 

_ Tqven Tu ambobT, rom 

ivaniSvili ufro metad unda 

Caerios qveynis mmarTvelobaSi, 

e. i. misi premier-ministris Tan- 

amdebobaze dabruneba logi- 

kuria... 

_ mesmis, ra logikasac avi- 

TarebT, magram premier-ministroba 

CvenTan, erTi mxriv, saxelmwifos 

meTaurs ki niSnavs, 

magram am ganmartebasTan dakav- 

SirebiT konstitucia bundovania. 

TviTon biZina ivaniSvili im 

tipis adamiania, romelsac politikaSi 

am formiT yofna ar xiblavs. 

misTvis ar aris komfortuli 

aseT Tanamdebobaze yofna, 

rac mis kontrproduqtiulobas 

iwvevs. sjobs, isev partiis 

xelmZRvanelis Tanamdebobaze 

iyos, iqidanac SeuZlia, procesi 

mSvenivrad marTos, oRond mar- 

Tos. 

_ ivaniSvili partiis SigniT 

kargavs Tu ara avtoritets? 

_ partiis SigniT ar kargavs 

avtoritets, ubralod, sxva rame 

ar momwons, rom sazogadoebaSi 

kargavs avtoritets. gansakuTrebiT 

mas Semdeg, rac saprezidento 

arCevnebis meore turis win 

cnobili gancxadeba gaakeTa, rom 

erT weliwadSi yvelafers ukeTesobisken 

Secvlis. jerjerobiT 

amas ar mohyolia aqtiuri da 

qmediTi nabijebi, piriqiT skandalebi 

moyva. garkveul etapze 

iseTi STabeWdilebac ki Semeqmna, 

rom es skandalebi vinmes mier 

xelovnurad xom ar iyo provocirebuli 

misi an „qarTuli ocnebis” 

mtrebis mxridan. an, rogorc 

Cans, „qarTuli ocnebis” gauTvleli 

nabijebis xarjze moxda 

am skandalebis provocireba. 

aqedan gamomdinare, Tu es „xan- 

Zari” partiis xelmZRvanelobam 

da, maT Soris, biZina ivaniSvilma, 

droze ar Caaqro, Zalian cudi 

Sedegebi dadgeba, _ xalxi danapirebis 

Sesrulebas elodeba. 

im resursebis gaTvaliswinebiT, 

rac ivaniSvils aqvs, erT weliwadSi 

Zalian seriozuli nabijebis 

gadadgma SeiZleboda. 

_ Tqven ambobT, rom ivaniS- 

vils yvelanairi resursi aqvs, 

erT weliwadSi ukeTesobisken 

Secvalos mdgomareoba. Tumca 

am etapze amas ar akeTebs, ra- 

tom? 

_ ver vxsni. TviTon maqvs am 

TemebTan Sexeba. konkretuli 

kiTxvebi maqvs, ratom ar xdeba 

forsirebulad ekonomikurad 

sakvanZo, sasicocxlo gadawyvetilebebis 

miReba, _ pasuxs ver 

viReb. is, rasac axla safinanso 

seqtorTan dakavSirebiT akeTeben, 

es yvelaferi, albaT, kargia, 

magram sakvanZo ar aris _ ar 

moitans adamianis keTildReobis 

zrdis procesis dawyebas, samuSao 

adgilebis Seqmnas, socialur 

gardatexas, im riskebisa da 

safrTxeebis Semcirebas, romelic 

qveynis winaSe arsebobs. 

_ axla gismenT da „qarTuli 

ocnebis” misamarTiT xSirad 

warmoTqmuli sityva maxsendeba: 

„uunaro xelisufleba”, anu 

resursi aqvT da ver iyeneben? 

_ „ocnebas” aqvs fantastikuri 

unari, _ unari, ar miitanos 

sazogadoebasTan Tavisi gakeTebuli 

saqme. 

_ roca SeuZlia da ar 

akeTebs, amas ra hqvia? 

_ meore mxarea, _ sityva uunaros 

ar gamoiyenebdiT miSa 

saakaSvilis mmarTvelobis dros 

imitom, rom man da misma gundma 

10-jer metis Cveneba icoda, vidre 

akeTebda. axla bevrad 

gaizarda mSp (mTliani Sida produqti), 

socialuri daxmarebebi, 

magram, jer erTi, amis sazogadoebamde 

mitana ar ician da sakvanZo 

saqmeebSi iWedebian. 

_ Tu procesi inerciiT wavi- 

da da ivaniSvilma kidev ufro 

masStaburad dakarga sazogadoebaSi 

avtoriteti, ra emuqre- 

ba „ocnebas”? 

_ saqme is aris, rom politikur 

speqtrSi „qarTuli ocnebis” 

alternativa ar aris. aqedan gamomdinare, 

erTaderTi, rac Sei- 

Zleba „qarTul ocnebas” daemuqros, 

es aris arCevnebSi bevrad 

naklebi amomrCeveli. nebismier 

SemTxvevaSi, 2020 wels, „ocneba” 

saparlamento arCevnebSi warmatebas 

miaRwevs. 

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vin aris merab bladaZe? 

bladaZem saqarTvelo im dros 

datova, roca xelisuflebaSi „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” iyo da wlebis 

ganmavlobaSi belgiaSi cxovrobda. 

im dros bladaZe belgiaSi 

aqtiurad atarebda „antinacionalur” 

manifestaciebs. zustad maSin 

dauaxlovda „patriotTa aliansis” 

liderebs. xelisuflebis Secvlisas, 

ramdenimewliani emigraci- 

giorgi abaSiZe 


kviraze metia, aWaris umaRles sabWos axali deputati hyavs 

_ uflebadamcveli merab bladaZe kanonmdebeli mas Semdeg gax- 

da, rac zaza oquaSvils sadeputato uflebamosileba Seuwyda. 

ufro sworad, Tavidan movlenebi 

ase ganviTarda: 2018 wlis Semodgomaze, 

„omega jgufis” damfuZnebelma, 

zaza oquaSvilma, 

„qarTuli ocneba” da, kerZod, biZina 

ivaniSvili biznesis zewolaSi 

daadanaSaula. „omegas” skandali 

karga xans iyo qarTuli mediisa da 

arasamTavrobo seqtoris, aseve politikuri 

wreebis ganxilvis mTavari 

Tema. saprezidento arCevnebis 

meore turis Semdeg, kerZod, 

gasuli wlis 20 dekembers, oquaSvilma 

aWaris umaRles sabWos gancxadebiT 

mimarTa da sabWos wevris 

uflebamosilebis vadamde Sewyveta 

moiTxova, Tumca mas Tavisi gadawyvetilebis 

mizezi ar dausaxelebia. 

zaza oquaSvilisTvis aWaris umaRlesi 

sabWos deputatis uflebamosilebis 

vadaze adre Sewyvetis 

sakiTxze kenWisyra 24 ianvars 

gaimarTa, romelzec opoziciam ganacxada, 

_ oquaSvili politikuri 

devnilia da xelisuflebam iZulebuli 

gaxada, sadeputato mandatze 

uari Tqvaso. amasTan, opoziciam 

kenWisyraSi monawileoba ar miiRo. 

sabolood, „omega jgufis” damfuZnebels 

deputatis uflebamosileba 

mainc Seuwyda da aWaris 

umaRles sabWoSi is „patriotTa 

aliansis” siis meore nomerma, merab 

bladaZem Caanacvla. 

16 

is Semdeg merab bladaZe saqarTveloSi 

dabrunda da, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom Tavis droze „ocnebis” 

mxardamWeri iyo, axali xelisuflebis 

kritikas mihyo xeli. am 

xnis ganmavlobaSi uflebadamcvelma 

araerTxel ganacxada, rom aWaris 

policia braldebulebs awamebda 

_ ramdenime wlis win swored 

am niadagze man SimSilobac 

daiwyo. aseve sazogadoebas axsovs, 

rom policiasTan dapirispirebis 

Semdeg bladaZes sakuTar saxlTan 

Tavs daesxnen. amas garda, saqarTveloSi 

dabrunebuli merab bladaZe 

ipoTekiT dazaralebulTa interesebsac 

icavda. 

„qronika+”-Tan saubrisas merab 

bladaZe ambobs, rom ipoTekiT 

dazaralebulTa uflebebs amieridan 

umaRlesi sabWodan daicavs. 

sxvaTa Soris, bladaZe arc imis 

Tqmas erideba, rom calkeul sakiTxebze, 

rogorc deputatma, Sesa- 

Zloa, „nacionalur moZraobasTanac” 

iTanamSromlos da im SemTxvevaSi, 

Tu dainaxavs, rom „ocneba” 

xalxisTvis sasargeblo rames 

akeTebs, mmarTveli gundis iniciativebsac 

dauWers mxars. 

gTavazobT intervius aWaris 

umaRlesi sabWos deputat merab 

bladaZesTan: 

merab bladaZe aWaris 

umaRles sabWoSi 

antikorufciuli 

komisiis Seqmnas iTxovs 

_ batono merab, deputatis 

uflebamosilebis Sesrulebas 

ukve SeudeqiT? 

_ diax, 11 Tebervals warmadgines 

da ukve umaRlesi sabWos deputati 

var. 

_ gilocavT, magram amixseniT 

da damisabuTeT, Tqveni gadeputatebiT 

aWaris umaRlesi sa- 

kanonmdeblo organos muSaoba ra 

kuTxiT Seicvleba? 

_ aWaris umaRlesi sabWos 

wevroba CemTvis, ra Tqma unda, didi 

pativia, magram aqve imasac getyviT, 

rom deputatoba CemTvis Tanamdeboba 

ki ara, tribunaa, anu 

is problemebi, romelTa Sesaxebac 

aqamde vsaubrobdi da vaprotestebi, 

axla SemiZlia, rom maRali tribunidan 

gavaJRero da amasTan, 

Sevecado, Sedegsac mivaRwio. mgoni, 

Tqvenc dameTanxmebiT, rom 

aWaris umaRlesi sabWodan xelisuflebamde 

xmis miwvdena ufro advilia, 

vidre _ quCidan. 

_ ki batono, geTanxmebiT, magram 

dRes aWaraSi mTavari prob- 

lema ra aris? 

_ soflis meurneoba Zalian 

cud dReSia. sabednierod, soflis 

meurneobis ministri Zalian kargi 

pirovnebaa _ Tavisi saqmis profesionalia, 

magram aWareli glexi, 

umetesad, citruszea damokidebuli 

da problemebi swored am kuTxiTaa. 

xelisufleba gamodis da ambobs, 

mandarinis uprecedento mosavali 

movidao da amiT qulebis 

daweras cdilobs, magram realoba 

absoluturad gansxvavebulia. 

_ da es realoba rogoria? 

_ xalxs citrusi ulpeba. 

_ ratom? 

_ imitom, rom ver abarebs _ 

rogor SeiZleba, erT kilogram mandarins 

10 da 20 TeTrad ibarebdnen? 

es xom absurdia da araferSi 

weria? 

_ es problema, wesiT, aRmas- 

rulebelma xelisuflebam unda 

moagvaros. Tqven, rogorc depu- 

tats, risi gakeTeba SegiZliaT, 

miT umetes, rom aWaris umaRles 

sabWoSi, saqarTvelos parlamentis 

msgavsad, umravlesoba „oc- 

nebis” xelSia? 

_ mesmis, rom umravlesoba „ocnebis” 

xelSia, magram vibrZoleb. 

zogadad, mTeli cxovreba vibrZvi 

da am brZoliT bevr rames mivaRwie. 

_ mainc, ras miaRwieT? 

_ albaT, gaxsovT, ramdenime 

wlis win SimSiloba gamovacxade da 

amiT gavaproteste, rom aWaraSi 

braldebulebs awamebdnen _ policia 

dakavebulebs moralur Seuracxyofas 

ayenebda da, saerTod, 

sastikad eqceoda. marto me vici, 

amis gaprotestebiT ra gadavitane... 

_ rogorc maxsovs, Tavs dag- 

esxnen kidec. 

_ zustad am brZolis Sedegia, 

rom dRes aWaris policiaSi xalxs 

aRar awameben! mokled, brZolas 

Sedegi moaqvs da Tu ar vibrZoleb, 

maSin unda davjde da im privilegiebiT 

davtkbe, romelsac umaRlesi 

sabWo maZlevs, magram me amis 

kaci ar var! CemTvis yvelaze didi 

privilegia is aris, rom umaRlesi 

sabWos wevri var _ nebismieri 

saministros kari Riaa da nebismier 

dokumentzec mimiwvdeba xeli. 

_ aWaris umaRles sabWoSi sul 

ramdeni opozicioneri xarT? 

_ aWaris umaRles sabWoSi xuTi 

„nacionaluri moZraobidanaa”, er- 

Ti _ „evropuli saqarTvelodan”, 

erTi _ burjanaZis partiidan da 

erTic _ me, anu „patriotTa aliansidan”. 

_ „nacionaluri moZraobisa” da 

„evropuli saqarTvelos” warmo- 

madgenlebTan iTanamSromlebT? 

`patriotTa aliansi~ qarTuli meCeTis aSenebis 

winaaRmdeg arasodes gamosula. es tyuili da 

cudi Jurnalistebis mier aris 

interpretirebuli!~ 

_ opoziciasTan, ra Tqma unda, 

viTanamSromleb. aseve im kanonebsac 

siamovnebiT davuWer mxars, 

romelsac umravlesoba warmoadgens 

da romelic xalxisTvis sasikeTo 

iqneba. zogadad, konstruqciuli 

opozicia var: kargi mixaria, 

cudi ki mwyins! 

_ dapirispirebas kostruqciuli 

kritika, rasakvirvelia, sjo- 

bia, magram „nacionalebTan” rogor 

iTanamSromlebT, roca Tqveni 

partia, anu „patriotTa alian- 

si”, „nacmoZraobis” akrZalvas 

iTxovs da saamisod xelmowerebic 

Seagrova? 

_ roca aikrZaleba, „nacionalur 

moZraobasTan” ai, maSin aRar 

viTanamSromleb! 

minda, sworad gamigoT, laparaki 

razea: vTqvaT, „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” konstruqciuli winadadebiT 

gamovida da raxan „nacionaluri 

moZraobaa”, ra vqna, am konstruqciul 

winadadebas ignorireba 

gavukeTo? yvelafers, rac Cemi 

kuTxisTvis sasikeTo iqneba, aucileblad 

davuWer mxars! 

_ aSkarad axleburi midgoma 

gaqvT. ise, Tavis droze, „patri- 

otTa aliansma” umaRlesi sabWos 

siaSi pirvel nomrad ratom ar 

CagweraT? 

_ ar vici, es Cveni Secdoma iyo 

Tu ara, magram amis Taobaze Sekreba 

gvqonda, vimsjeleT da gadavwyviteT, 

rom partiuli siis pirveli 

nomeri daviT Tarxan-mouravi 

iqneboda, romelmac zaza oquaSvils 

dauTmo adgili... rogorc 

drom aCvena, es Secdoma iyo, radgan 

aWara specifikuri kuTxea da 

es cvlileba xalxma ar miiRo. 

_ aqedan gmomdinare, xom ar 

fiqrobT, rom es ori weli „patr- 

iotTa aliansma” aWaris umaRles 

sabWoSi, ubralod, dakarga? 

_ zaza oquaSvils ar vicnob. 

samagierod mis meuRles, qalbaton 

natos vicnob da Zalian did pativs 

vcem, magram, miuxedavad amisa, mimaCnia, 

rom es ori weli „patriot- 

Ta aliansma” aWaraSi Tundac imitom 

dakarga, rom batoni oquaSvili 

erTi iniciativiTac ar gamosula 

da, saerTod, partiaSic ar mosula! 

_ batono merab, Tqveni, rogorc 

axalbeda deputatis pirve- 

li iniciativa ra iqneba? 

_ am Temaze vmuSaob. ar dagimalavT 

da Zalian mainteresebs is 

firmebi, romelsac citrusis 

Sesawamli Sxam-qimikatebi Semoaqvs. 

_ am firmebiT ratom dainteresdiT 

an daintereseba riT gam- 

oixateba? 

_ es Sxam-qimikatebi Zalian Zviri 

da absoluturad uxarisxoa. 

amitom sainteresoa, es firmebi 

visia da aRniSnuli Sxam-qimikatebi 

ra kriteriumiT SemoaqvT?! 

sxvaTa Soris, wina wlebSi araerTi 

programa arsebobda. magali- 

Tad, erT-erTi aseTi nergebis darigebis 

programa iyo, anu soflis 

meurneobis saministro kaklisa da 

Txilis nergebs arigebda. Tavis 

drozec mqonda informacia, romlis 

Sesaxebac xmamaRla vsaubrobdi, 

rom am programaSi korufciuli 

sqema iyo Cadebuli, _ veluri 

Txilisa da kaklis nergebi SemohqondaT, 

romelic nayofs ar iZleva. 

_ mere, aq korufciis niSnebi 

sad dainaxeT? 

_ zogadad, Txilma da kakalma 

mosavali rom mogceT, daaxloebiT, 

samidan xuTi weli unda gavides, 

magram aWaraSi moqmedebdnen 

principiT, _ xuT weliwadSi an 

viri mokvdeba, an _ viris patronio. 

mokled, sami da xuTi ki ara, 

ufro bevri weli gavida da mainteresebs, 

am nergebma rogori nayofi 

gamoiRes da swori viyavi Tu 

ara, roca vambobdi, am nergebidan 

naxevarze meti veluri jiSisaameTqi. 

_ e. i., saubari iqiTken migyavT, 

rom aWaraSi korufcia yvavis? 

_ diax, saubedurod, korufcia 

absoluturad yvela dargSia, Tumca 

amas policiaze ver vityvi. 

_ erTi wuTiT, weRan is dro 

gaixseneT, roca ramdenime wlis 

winaT policiaSi braldebulebs 

awamebdnen. axla ki ambobT, aWaris 

policiaSi korufcia ar ariso. 

_ diax, policiaSi mwameblebi 

iyvnen, romelTa nawilic ganTavisuflda, 

nawili ki isev muSaobs, 

magram arasodes miTqvams, poli- 

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ciaSi korufciaa-meTqi. 

_ kaklisa da Txilis nergebis 

garda, korufciis sxva magaliTe- 

bis dasaxeleba SegiZliaT? 

_ yvelafers gadamowmeba unda. 

xom vambobdi, veluri nergebi Semodis-meTqi. 

ai, axla, komisiis Seqmnas 

moviTxov, raTa Semowmdes, 

aWaris soflis meurneobaSi korufcia 

aris Tu ara. 

sxvaTa Soris, bujetidan araer- 

Ti arafrismomcemi proeqti dafinansda, 

raSic kolosaluri Tanxa 

daixarja. arada, savsebiT SesaZlebeli 

iyo, rom es Tanxa sxva sferos 

ganviTarebas moxmareboda. 

_ aWaris umaRlesi sabWos „oc- 

nebis” umravlesoba, ase vTqvaT, 

antikorufciuli komisiis Seqmnas 

mxars dauWers? 

_ Tu ar dauWers, sazogadoeba 

amasac gaigebs. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, wlebis ganmav- 

lobaSi yuradRebas kidev erT 

problemaze amaxvilebdiT da am- 

bobdiT, aWaraSi aralegaluri 

saswavleblebi arsebobs, sadac 

muslim sasuliero pirebs amzade- 

beno. umaRles sabWoSi am Temasac 

xom ar wamowevT? 

_ ra Tqma unda, wamovwev. simar- 

Tle giTxraT, jer bolomde ar 

var garkveuli, reglamentiT risi 

ufleba maqvs, magram erTi cxadia: 

aWaraSi raRac religiuri saswavleblebi 

ixsneba. 

_ es saswavleblebi safrTxis 

Semcveli ratom aris? 

_ saerTod, tradiciuli islamis 

winaaRmdegi ar var _ aWaraSi 

tradiciuli islami iyo da axlac 

aris, magram amas garda, aWaraSi 

sxvadasxva muslimuri dajgufeba 

arsebobs. 

aseve salafitebic arian. salafizmi, 

rogorc vici, vahabizmis 

erT-erTi ganStoebaa, rasac unda 

SevebrZoloT imitom, rom es terorizmis 

budea. iciT, didi memed 

abaSiZe ras ambobda? _ Cvens qarTvel 

ZmebTan erTad muslimi Zmebic 

varTo. vahabistebisTvis ki qarTveli 

Zma ar arsebobs! maTTvis Zma 

mxolod muslimia da meti aravin! 

xvdebiT, ra Sorsmimavali gegmebi 

aqvT? 

mokled, Cven unda SevecadoT, 

im muslimuri skolebis saswavlo 

programebi ganaTlebis saministrom 

daamticos. dRes aravin icis, 

aseT saswavleblebSi ras aswavlian! 

amas garda, iciT, kidev ra 

kanonia misaRebi? 

_ ra kanoni? 

_ maT, vinc TurqeTSi, iransa Tu 

arabeTSi religiur ganaTlebas 

miiRebs da ukan dabrundeba, saqar- 

TveloSi maRali Tanamdebobis 

dakavebis ufleba ar unda hqondeT! 

_ ratom? 

_ magaliTad, TurqeTSi erdoRanma 

kanoni miiRo, romlis 

Tanaxmadac, molas, romelsac ganaTleba 

sxva qveyanaSi aqvs miRebuli, 

Tanamdebobis dakavebis 

ufleba ar aqvs da mas SeuZlia, 

ubralod, mola iyos da sasuliero 

ierarqiaSi win ver wava. 

_ SeiZleba, meSleba, magram 

analogiuri kanoni, mgoni, azer- 

baijanSic moqmedebs. 

_ aseTi kanoni saqarTveloSic 

unda miviRoT da ratom ar SeiZleba, 

rom, magaliTad, Tbilisis saxelmwifo 

universitetSi specialuri 

fakulteti gaixsnas, sadac axalgazrdebi 

Teologias Seiswavlian? 

_ ucxoeTSi religiis skolad- 

amTavrebulma xalxma saqarTvel- 

oSi maRali Tanamdeboba mainc, 

ratom ar unda daikavos? 

_ imitom, rom am xalxis mentaliteti 

Secvlilia da qarTul 

interesebs veRar gaatarebs. 

`roca aikrZaleba, `nacionalur moZraobasTan~ ai, maSin aRar viTanamSromleb! 

minda, sworad gamigoT, laparaki razea: vTqvaT, `nacionaluri moZraoba~ 

konstruqciuli winadadebiT gamovida da raxan `nacionaluri moZraobaa~, ra 

vqna, am konstruqciul winadadebas ignorireba gavukeTo? yvelafers, rac Cemi 

kuTxisTvis sasikeTo iqneba, aucileblad davuWer mxars!~ 

_ am iniciativis Tundac kanonproeqtis 

doneze ganxilva, vf- 

qirob, did aJiotaJs gamoiwvevs. 

_ SeiZleba, magram Tu Teologiis 

Seswavla ginda, maincdamainc 

TurqeTSi ratom unda waxvide? Tu 

vinmes muftoba unda, keTili inebos 

da religiuri ganaTleba 

saqarTveloSi miiRos! 

damerwuneT, im axalgazrdebis 

99 procenti, vinc religiur ganaTlebas 

TurqTsa da iranSi iRebs, 

saqarTveloSi qarTuli azrovnebiT 

aRar brundeba. swored es 

xalxi qmnis dRes aWaraSi problemebs 

da meti aravin! 

_ batono merab, am sakiTxs, 

vatyob, kargad icnobT da isic 

gecodinebaT, axalgazrdebi TurqeTSi, 

iransa da sxva aziur qveynebSi 

religiuri ganaTlebis mis- 

aRebad rogor xvdebian? 

_ Zalian didi dafinanseba modis, 

specialurad gaWirvebul 

ojaxebs arCeven, maTi Svilebi mihyavT 

da yvelanair privilegias 

uqmnian _ aswavlian, sacxovrebli- 

Ta da sakvebiTac uzrunvelyofen. 

_ anu eWvobT, rom yvelafer 

amis ukan ucxouri specsamsaxure- 

bi dganan? 

_ diax. 

sxvaTa Soris, zogs ar unda 

aRiaros, magram arsebobs Turqe- 

Tis sagareo saqmeTa yofili ministris, 

daviT oRlus satelevizio 

gancxadeba, sadac is pirdapir 

akeTebs miniSnebas, odesme baTums 

aucileblad davibrunebTo. 

_ batono merab, ukve kanonmde- 

beli, anu sajaro piri xarT da 

Tqveni nebismieri gancxadeba sa- 

zogadoebis mxridan SesaZloa, 

sxvanairad iyos aRqmuli. amasTan, 

imiTac unda dainteresdeT, ram- 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

denime dRis win baTumSi moRvawe 

Turqma investorma rom ganacxa- 

da, _ CemTan movidnen da miTxres, 

saqarTvelo unda davtovo, 

Torem problemebi Semeqmnebao. 

_ pirvel rigSi, uflebadamcveli 

var da Tu es adamiani mommar- 

Tavs, mis uflebebs, ra Tqma unda, 

davicav, magram CemTvis ar moumar- 

Tavs. 

_ Turqma biznesmenma muqaris 

Sesaxeb sajaro gancxadeba gaake- 

Ta da es sakmarisi ar aris, rom 

misi uflebebi daicvaT? 

_ gjeraT, rom masTan vinme mivida 

da uTxra, aqedan wadi, Torem 

problemebi Segeqmnebao? 

_ amaSi daujerebeli ra aris, 

miT umetes, rom TurqeTisa Tu 

iranis moqalaqeebis winaaRmdeg 

saqarTveloSi saprotesto aqcia 

araerTxel gamarTula. 

_ me ar mjera. 

_ ratom ar gjeraT? 

_ imitom ar mjera, rom SeiZleba, 

am adamians rame danaSauli 

hqonda Cadenili, Torem ver warmomidgenia, 

dRes aWaraSi vinme investorTan 

mivides da qveynis datoveba 

mosTxovos. piriqiT, investorebs 

mivesalmebiT. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, im politikuri 

partiis warmomadgeneli xarT, 

romelic baTumSi meCeTis mSene- 

blobis winaaRmdeg gamarTuli 

aqciebis avangardSi idga. 

_ ara, es Zalian didi Secdomaa. 

_ Secdoma ratom aris? ra, „pa- 

triotTa aliansi” baTumSi meCeT- 

is mSeneblobas ar aprotestebda? 

_ piradad me var imis iniciatori, 

rom baTumSi ase vTqvaT, 

erTi qolgis qveS aSendes meCeTic, 

marTlmadidebluri da kaTolikuri 

eklesiebi da aseve sinagogac. 

sxvaTa Soris, es idea, jer 

kidev, maSin gaJRerda, roca qalaqis 

Tavi andronikaSvili iyo, magram 

maSin am ideis ganxorcielebas 

pirvelma msoflio omma SeuSala 

xeli. am ideis Sesaxeb molaparakebebi 

muslimebTan gvaqvs, romlebmac 

es wamowyeba kargad miiRes. 

axla am ideis Sesaxeb molaparakebas 

sapatriarqosTan vapirebT. 

„patriotTa aliansi” qarTuli 

meCeTis aSenebis winaaRmdeg arasodes 

gamosula. es tyuili da 

cudi Jurnalistebis mier aris 

interpretirebuli! 

_ ukacravad, Jurnalistebs 

raSi gvdebT brals? 

_ Cven azizies saxelobis meCe- 

Tis winaaRmdegebi viyaviT, romelic 

TurqeTis daJinebuli moTxovniT 

baTumis centrSi unda 

aSenebuliyo. sinamdvileSi, es meCe- 

Ti ki ara TurqeTis dazvervis 

raRac centri iqneboda. 

Tu meCeTi gvinda, mas adgilobrivi 

mosaxleobis gamokiTxviT 

avaSenebT da ara _ TurqeTis moTxovniT! 

_ batono merab, Tqveni ganvlili 

cxovreba imis Tqmis safuZvels 

maZlevs, rom revolucionerad 

da meamboxed Segracx- 

oT. amboxebebsa da minirevolu- 

ciebs aWaris umaRles sabWoSic 

xom ar moawyobT xolme? 

_ ara, me mxolod da mxolod simarTles 

vityvi! weRandeli Tqmisa 

vin aris da ra gegmebi aqvs 

zaza oquaSvilis Semcvlels? 

ar iyos, Casafrebuli ar var! 

_ anu „ocnebas” SeurigdiT? 

_ ara! „ocnebas” rogor Sevurigdebi, 

roca Cemi qveyana ukan 

da ukan midis, magram xom SeiZleba, 

rame kargi gaakeTos da amas 

mxolod mivesalmebi! Tu „ocneba” 

sisuleleebs gaakeTebs, ra Tqma 

unda, Tavs Sevaklav! 

_ Svidi welia, „ocneba” xelis- 

uflebaSia da Tu pirvel periods 

ar CavTvliT, mmarTvel gunds mudam 

akritikebT da ratom ggoni- 

aT, rom axla kargs gaakeTebs? 

sxvaTa Soris, maxsovs, aqtiurad 

ibrZodiT baTumis „ocnebis qala- 

qis” mosaxleobis uflebebisTvis, 

aseve bankebisa da kerZo mevaxSee- 

bisgan dazaralebulebsac icav- 

diT. es problemebi arc dRes 

mogvarebula... 

_ ras hqvia, es problemebi damaviwyda? 

ipoTekiT dazaralebul- 

ebs dResac gverdiT vudgavar. 

_ umaRles sabWoSi am kuTxiT 

ar imuSavebT? 

_ ra Tqma unda, aucileblad. 

saerTod, problema uamravia. 

sxvaTa Soris, iTqva, rom „ocnebis 

qalaqSi” asi milioni Caideba, 

magram sainteresoa, rodis? 

„ocnebis qalaqis” mcxovreblebi 

iTxovdnen, miwa mogveciT, anu 

sadme dagvasaxleTo, magram es 

problema meSvide welia, gaiwela. 

bavSvebi gaizardnen da am xalxis 

pirobac Seicvala. 

_ „ocnebis qalaqis” mosaxleo- 

ba dRes ras iTxovs? 

_ baTumSi gazrdili bavSvi 

sacxovreblad ninowmindasa da 

walkaSi aRar wava. amitom xelisuflebam 

sakuTari Secdoma Tavadve 

unda gamoasworos da „ocnebis 

qalaqis” adgilas korpusebi aaSenos, 

sadac es xalxi dasaxldeba. es 

moTxovna xelisuflebam gaigo da 

ramdenime kviris win riJvaZem ganacxada, 

am teritoriaze korpusebis 

mSenebloba daiwyebao. es ar 

unda gamixardes da amas ar unda 

mivesalmo? ai, aseT konstruqciul 

urTierTobazea saubari. 

_ gasagebia, magram Tqvens kon- 

struqciulobas zogma SesaZloa, 

sxva sarCuli gamoakeros da Tqvas, 

„patriotebi” ocnebasTan Tan- 

amSromlobeno. 

_ „qarTuli ocneba” „patriot- 

Ta alianss” ufro ebrZvis, vidre 

_ „nacionalur moZraobas”! 

_ es saidan moitaneT? 

_ axlave getyviT: igive saprezidento 

arCevnebSi iZulebulebi 

viyaviT, salome zurabiSvilisTvis 

migveca xma da Cveni mxardamWerebis 

mobilizeba gagvekeTebina. 

_ ratom gaxdiT iZulebuli, 

rom zurabiSvilisTvis dageWiraT 

mxari? 

_ iZulebulebi imitom gavxdiT, 

rom „nacionalebis” dabrunebis 

winapiroba ar Seqmniliyo. or kedels 

Sua amitomac gaviWyliteT, magram 

imedi maqvs, rom Zalian male 

kidev ufr gavZlierdebiT da xalxic 

mixvdeba, rom „patriotTa aliansi” 

is politikuri Zalaa, romelsac 

saxelmwifos marTva SeuZlia. 

_ mainc ver damisabuTeT, raSi 

gamoixateba, rom „qarTuli ocne- 

ba” „patriotTa alianss” Tundac 

aWaraSi ebrZvis? 

_ 2016 wels gagaxsenebT, roca 

arCevnebamde zustad 20 dRiT 

adre „patriotTa aliansma” baTumis 

eras moedanze, daaxloebiT, 20- 

25 aTasi adamiani SevkribeT, magram 

iciT, ceskom ra dawera? 

_ ra? 

_ ceskom dawera, rom aWaraSi 

TiTqos mxolod xuTi aTasma amomrCevelma 

mogvca xma. es xom absurdia 

da vin daijerebs? saboloo 

jamSi, aWaris umaRles sabWoSi 

erTi kaciT SevediT da es maSin, 

roca, minimum, oTxi deputati 

unda gvyoloda. 

_ laparakia, rom SesaZloa, va- 

damdeli saparlamento arCevnebi 

dainiSnos. Tu ase moxda, deputa- 

tis mandatis datoveba mogiwevT. 

am mocemulobaSi, ar gerCiaT, rom 

isev garedan gebrZolaT? 

_ giTxariT da kidev geubnebiT: 

CemTvis aWaris umaRlesi sabWos 

wevroba Tanamdeboba ki ara, tribunaa, 

rom xelisuflebas Cemi 

kuTxis, Cemi aWaris mosaxleobis 

satkivari metad davanaxo! 

rac Seexeba vadamdel arCevnebs, 

jer amaze partiis liderebTan ar 

misaubria, Tumca Cems pirad pozicias 

getyviT: aWaraSi „patriotTa 

alianss” Zalian didi reitingi aqvs 

da Tu undaT, vadamdeli arCevnebi 

xvalve daniSnon! xalxi xedavs, 

rom mis gverdiT vdgavarT da diax, 

swored Cven varT is Zala, romelsac 

SeuZlia, raRac gaakeTos! 

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deputati daviT WiWinaZe jer 

kidev maSin, roca partia „qarTuli ocnebis” wevri iyo, sajarod 

arasodros erideboda kritikuli poziciebis dafiqsirebas. 

dRes ukve eka beselias Tanamoazred miiCneva da aq- 

tiurad umagrebs zurgs mas. rogor afasebs mmarTvel gundSi 

mimdinare dapirispirebas? ras fiqrobs sasamarTloSi mim- 

dinare movlenebze? Tuki eka beselia politikur partias 

Seqmnis, apirebs Tu ara mis gundSi yofnas? 

„qronika+~ deputat daviT 

WiWinaZes esaubra: 

_ Tqven jer kidev SarSan iyaviT 

mmarTveli gundSi dapiri- 

spirebis epicentrSi da Sida 

procesebs kargad icnobT, ra 

xdeba amjerad „qarTul ocneba- 

Si”? TqvenTvis, rogorc yofili 

„meocnebisTvis”, es procesebi 

nacnobia. 

_ did politikur gaerTianebebSi 

gavlenebisTvis brZola 

sul mimdinareobs da sxvadasxva 

jgufi erTmaneTs yovelTvis 

ebrZvis. jansaR organizmSi konkurencia 

yovelTvis swored imitom 

aris, rom poziciebi gaimyaron, 

radganac amomrCevelTan 

ufro daaxlovdnen da xalxis 

meti mxardaWera moipovon. samwuxarod, 

„qarTul ocnebaSi” 

piriqiT xdeba _ is xalxi Zlierdeba, 

romelic sazogadoebis 

mxridan absoluturad nulovani 

mxardaWeriT sargeblobs, Sesabamisad, 

„qarTul ocnebas” Tu 

rame negativi aqvs, swored am adamianebTan 

aris asocirebuli. 

aqedan gamomdinare, maTi brZola 

„qarTuli ocnebis” daSlas 

ufro hgavs, vidre „qarTul 

ocnebaSi” upiratesobis mopovebas. 

amitom skamebs, romelsac 

isini epotinebian, absoluturad 

perspeqtiva ar gaaCnia, Sesabamisad, 

am brZolis bolos sikeTe 

ar Cans, radgan Tu dRevandel 

mdgomareobas SevafasebT, amas 

hqvia: brZola usamarTlobis 

dasanergad. „qarTuli ocnebis” 

avangardi da is mosamarTleebi, 

vis mimarTac Zalian bevri kiTxva 

arsebobs, Tu erTad moiazrebian, 

maSin „qarTuli ocneba” am 

adamianebis saSualebiT Cvens 

qveyanaSi usamarTlobis „gasapraveblad” 

ibrZvis. Tqven gaxsovT 

parlamentis Tavmjdomaris 

cnobili gamonaTqvami mosamarTleebTan 

dakavSirebiT, 

roca man Tqva, _ cudebi iyvnen 

da kargebi gaxdneno. zogadad, am 

adamianma didi cvlilebebi Seitana 

Cvens msoflmxedvelobaSi, 

saerTod istoriis gadawerac ki 

moindoma, es warmoudgeneli 

SemTxveva iyo. kobaxiZem ganacxada: 

„germanelebma meore msoflio 

omis Semdeg ifiqres da 

gadawyvites, rom pasuxismgebloba 

liderebisTvis daekisrebinaT 

da mcire donis moxeleebisTvis, 

maT Soris, mosamarTleebisTvis 

_ ara”. vfiqrob, es erT-erTi seriozuli 

skandalis Temaa. ger- 


maneli eri dRemde solidarul 

pasuxismgeblobas grZnobda, am 

adamianma ki ise gamoiyvana, TiTqos, 

iq araferi momxdara. is Tvi- 

Tgvema, rasac germaneli xalxi 

amdeni wlis ganmavlobaSi eweva, 

kobaxiZis gadasaxedidan, Turme, 

araferi yofila. ar SeiZleba, 

sakuTar qveyanaSic ki is msoflio 

tragedia ise daapataravo 

da iseTi umniSvnelo gaxado, rom 

saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebs 

Seadaro. Tu es mosamarTleebi 

kacobriobis winaSe danaSauls 

afarebdnen xels, maSin daibaron 

kobaxiZe da hkiTxon amis Sesaxeb. 

_ Tqven axseneT, rom am dapirispirebaSi 

ispirebaSi axali araferia 

da bunebrivi procesia, Tumca 

amave procesSi vxedavT, rom 

ivaniSvili „axlebis” gundze 

debs fsons. rogor fiqrobT, 

ratom? 

_ am SemTxvevaSi ver vityvi, 

rom axal saxeebze aqvs aqcenti 

gakeTebuli, ufro sxvagvarad 

SevxedoT am Temas da vTqvaT, 

rom ivaniSvili „morCilebze” 

debs fsons. iseT adamianebze 

akeTebs arCevans, romlebic realobas 

ar eubnebian da cdiloben, 

maqsimalurad mavnebluri 

politika gaataron. isini ivaniSvilis 

davalebebis zedmiwevniT 

Sesrulebasac mondomebiT cdiloben. 

aRsaniSnavia, rom ivaniSvilTan 

aranair winaaRmdegobaSi 

ar Sedian. yovelTvis yvelafer- 

Si eTanxmebian. vfiqrob, maT, 

albaT, kargi informatori 

hyavT, romelsac ivaniSvilisgan 

maTTvis informacia gamoaqvs. 

esenic am informaciis safuZvelze 

ivaniSvils iseT mosazrebebs 

awvdian, romelic mis azrebs 

daemTxveva. es Cveulebrivi praqtikaa 

da amas Zalian bevri adamiani 

mimarTavda. istorias rom gadavxedoT, 

bevr aseT SemTxvevas 

vnaxavT. ar mesmis, rogor Sei- 

Zleba am adamianebis mimarT simpaTiis 

gaCena. „qarTuli ocneba” 

iseTi politikuri Zalaa, romelic 

mudmivad unda atarebdes kvlevebs. 

viciT, egzitpolebis 

Sedegebi rogor gauyalba irakli 

kobaxiZem, bigvavas gadaawerines 

cifrebi, Tavad bigvava ki 

dardobda, _ mTeli Cemi 70 wlis 

avtoriteti erTi xelis mosmiT 

ganadgurdao. rogorc vici, 

Sedegebi kobaxiZes gadauweria 

da bigvavas miutania, ivaniSvili 

ki sakmaod sasacilo situaciaSi 

aRmoCnda. salomesTvis mialocines 

gaprezidenteba, wavida 

dasasveneblad, diliT gaiRviZa 

da meore turi daxvda. yovelive 

amis Semdeg, roca adamiani Sesabamis 

daskvnebs ver gaakeTeb, pirvel 

rigSi, sakuTar Tavs avneb. 

kobaxiZiT da misi garemocviT 

araTu 2020 wlis saparlamento 

arCevnebs moigeb, aramed an mixval, 

an _ ara 2020-mde. 

_ rasac saubrobT, iqidan 

gamomdinare, biZina ivaniSvili 

realobas mowyvetilia da man 

realuri procesebis Sesaxeb ar 

icis, maT Soris, mosamarTleeb- 

is Temac? 

_ diax, is realobas namdvilad 

mowyvetilia. ivaniSvili 

Tu realur kvlevebs uyurebs, 

maSin „qarTuli ocnebisa” da misi 

garemocvis seriozuli problemebi 

unda dainaxos. vfiqrob, manipulireba 

xdeba an Tavad ivani- 

Svils saerTod aRar ainteresebs, 

ras fiqrobs sazogadoeba. 

SeiZleba hgonia, rom yvelafris 

ufleba aqvs, maT Soris, saku- 

Tari wesebiT TamaSisac. 

_ mosamarTleebis Temas rom 

SevexoT, ra ganapirobebs mis 

loialur damokidebulebas mu- 

rusiZe-CinCalaZis mimarT, rad 

unda ivaniSvils es klani? is 

mizanmimarTulad dgams nabijs 

maT sasargeblod, Tu ar aqvs 

kargad gacnobirerebuli, rom 

es yvelaferi Zalian Zviri 

daujdeba? 

_ politikur liderebs, romlebsac 

eris liderobaze aqvT 

pretenzia, Zalian xSirad emarTebaT 

hibris sindromi, romlis 

raime warmatebas miaRwios. 

_ am mocemulobaSi aris Tu 

ara imis saSiSroeba, rom es 

xalxi ivaniSvils moubrundes 

da pasuxi mosTxovos? 

_ 2018 wlis saprezidento 

arCevnebis win ivaniSvilma xalxs 

kidev erTxel gaumeora is, rasac 

es adamianebi elodebian. man 

erTi weli iTxova, Sesabamisad, 

2020 weli kidev ufro Sorsaa. 

xalxs Zalian kargi mexsiereba 

aqvs. am procesSi veRaravin gamoCndeba, 

visac ivaniSvili raimes 

gadaabralebs. saprezidento ar- 

Cevnebamde man pirdapir Tqva, 

rom me damiWireT mxari, me momeciT 

xmao. Sesabamisad, am SemTxvevaSi 

pasuxismgebeli piradad 

ivaniSvili gaxda. amitom vfiqrob, 

rom xalxs sxvasTan ukve saqme 

daviT WiWinaZe: 

`qarTul ocnebas~ 

iseTive momavali 

eqneba, rogoric 

`moqalaqeTa kavSirs~ 

ar aqvs, mas ar ainteresebs arc 

kobaxiZe, arc premier-ministri 

baxtaZe, aRarc mTavrobisa da 

parlamentis wevrebi. am qveyana- 

Si sazogadoebisTvis yvelaferze 

pasuxismgebeli mxolod ivani- 

Svilia. es sazogadoeba ivaniSvilis 

mxridan gadadgmul nabijebs 

elodeba. sxvisi moxsniT, gadayenebiT 

ukve araferi Seicvleba. 

sikeTesa da cvlilebebs xalxi am 

erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi elodeba. 

rac mTavaria, iseT radikalur 

cvlilebebs, rogorsac dahpirda. 

_ ramdenad realuria, rom 

erT weliwadSi radikaluri cv- 

lilebebi ganxorcieldeba, Tu 

es iyo morigi satyuara arC- 

evnebis win? 

_ roca aseT gancxadebas ake- 

Teb, Sesabamisi winapiroba unda 

gqondes da mzad unda iyo am dapirebis 

Sesasruleblad. Tu ar 

gaqvs Sesabamisi meqanizmi mofiqrebuli, 

ase ubralod dapirebas 

azri ar aqvs. Tu am erT wels 

araseriozulad miudga, maSin 

sazogadoebis mxridan araserio- 

`nacionaluri moZraobis~ imdeni wevria 

gadmobargebuli `qarTul ocnebaSi~, rom sad 

aris `qarTuli ocneba~ da sad - `nacionaluri 

moZraoba~, ver gaigebT~ 

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mixedviTac am sindromis mqone 

adamianTa azriT, mxolod istoriisa 

da uflis winaSe mouwevT 

pasuxisgeba, xalxi ki verasdros 

mosTxovs pasuxs. albaT 

ufro am SemTxvevasTan gvaqvs 

saqme. Cveni xalxi sakmaod mimndobia, 

_ rodesac garkveuli 

politikosis mimarT simpaTias 

ganicdis, mas absoluturad endoba 

da yvela misi danapirebis 

sjera. saerTod, keTilSobili 

eri varT da martivad vijerebT 

xolme raRacebs. sityvis fasi 

viciT da amitom Sinagani rwmeniT 

gvjera, rom politikosi, 

romelic didi ndobiT sargeblobs 

da rames gvpirdeba, sityvis 

kaci unda iyos. es namdvilad 

Cveni eris gansakuTrebuli 

Tvisebaa da vinc amas kargad 

gamoiyenebs, is aucileblad xangrZlivad 

icxovrebs politikurad. 

vinc eris mudmivad 

motyuebas Seecdeba, is Zalian 

cudad daamTavrebs. praqtikulad, 

Cven vxedavT, rom zviad 

gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis Semdeg 

yvela xelisufleba devnili 

gaxda, gamsaxurdia ki saerTod 

daamxes da is ukve sxva fenomeni 

iyo. ar mimaCnia, rom xalxis ignorirebis 

gziT SesaZloa, adamianma 

moRvaweobis dasasruls 

zulobisTvis Zalian seriozul 

pasuxs miiRebs. mainc mgonia, rom 

raRac gaTvlebi aqvs. mas SeeZlo 

eTqva, rom 2020 wlamde madrove- 

To, is erTi weli ratom Tqva, ar 

vici, magram am erT weliwadSi 

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unda moxdes is, rasac dahpirda. 

2019-dan 2020-mde sazogadoebam 

im cvlilebebis gaazreba unda 

SeZlos, rac moxdeba. 

_ Tqven eka beselias Tanamoazred 

miiCneviT, piradi cx- 

ovrebis amsaxveli kadrebis 

SemTxvevaSic pirvelma ganacxa- 

deT prokuraturaSi. rogor 

fiqrobT, visTan midis kvali? 

_ simarTle giTxraT, „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” imdeni wevria 

gadmobargebuli „qarTul ocnebaSi”, 

rom sad aris „qarTuli 

ocneba” da sad _ „nacionaluri 

moZraoba”, ver gaigebT. Tan vxedavT, 

rom „ocnebis” „Zvel saxeebs” 

aviwroeben. rac Seexeba kadrebs, 

mxolod am formiT ar 

iyo Seviwroeba, amas win uZRoda 

sxvadasxva statia, „feik niusebi”, 

razedac reagireba ar yofila, 

amitom adamianebma miiCnies, rom 

dausjelobis sindromi iyo. 

verc imas gamovricxav, rom „qar- 

Tul ocnebaSi” miRweuli SeTanxmebis 

darRveva surda vinmes. 

msgavsi xifaTi garedan naklebad 

xdeba, ufro Signidan modis. is 

reaqciebi, rac mosamarTleebs am 

TemasTan dakavSirebiT hqondaT, 

sruliad miuRebeli iyo. isini 

ambobdnen, rom TiTqos beselias 

interesSi iyo am kadrebis gavrceleba, 

rom SemdegSi gmirad 

warmoCeniliyo _ warmogidgeniaT, 

ramdenad amoraluri unda 

iyo adamiani, rom ase ifiqro?! 

gava dro da yvelafers naTeli 

moefineba, Tu am xelisuflebis 

pirobebSi ara, sxva xelisuflebis 

dros. 

_ mas Semdeg, rac mosamarTleebis 

Tema wina planze wamov- 

ida, aqtiurad saubrobdnen, rom 

beselia da „Zvelebi” saTavisod 

iyenebdnen Temas, TiTqos sa- 

marTlianobisTvis ibrZodnen. 

amis sapirwoned ras ityviT? 

_ „qarTuli ocneba” Tavisi 

daarsebis dRidan samarTlianobisTvis 

ibrZoda. es gamowveva ar 

unda Secvliliyo. Tavis droze, 

2014-2015 wlebSi, mosamarTleebis 

mimarT gadadgmuli nabijebi, 

romelic Tavad ivaniSvilma 

gadadga, iyo gverdiT gadadgmuli 

nabiji, ramac xalxSi gaurkvevloba 

gamoiwvia. maSin aRmoCnda, 

rom arcTu ise swor gzaze 

mdgara „qarTuli ocneba”. rodesac 

es wiTel xazad iqca, am gamyofma 

xazma gamoiwvia gundSi gayofac. 

Cemi azriT, qveyanaSi samarTlianobas 

murusiZeebiT da 

CinCalaZeebiT verasdros miaRwev, 

radgan es adamianebi dakve- 

TasTan arian asocirebulebi. 

roca ori adamiani erTmaneTs 

uCivis, iq, SesaZloa, saxelmwifo 

interesebi ar ikveTebodes da 

sasamarTlo samarTliani iyos. 

aseTi gamonaklisebi miSas drosac 

iyo. Cven viciT, rom, jerjerobiT, 

arc erT gaxmaurebul 

saqmeze sasamarTlos samarTliani 

gadawyvetileba ar miuRia. saxelmwifos 

swored Tavisi interesebis 

gasatareblad sWirdeba es 

adamianebi. 

_ ambobT, rom saxelmwifos 

Tavisi interesebisTvis sWird- 

eba „murusiZe-CinCalaZeebi”. me 

geubnebiT, rom SesaZloa, bese- 

lias Tavisi gavlenebisTvis sWi- 

rdeba sxva saxelebi da gvarebi. 

amaze ras metyviT? es Cemi azri 

ar aris, sazogadoebis didi nawilic 

ambobs, rom beselias piradi 

interesebi da sasamarTlos 

gavlenis survili ikveTeba. 

aqve SegaxsenebT, rom beselias 

saxeli patimrebidan fu- 

lis aRebas ukavSirdeba. 

_ pirveli, rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, 

saubaria mosamarTleebis 

uvadod daniSvnis SeCerebaze. 

es imas niSnavs, rom saku- 

Tari kadrebis daniSvnaze saubari 

ar aris. Tu reformis mTavari 

Semadgeneli nawilia iusticiis 

umaRlesi skolis reformireba 

da axali, Tanamedrove standartis 

mosamarTleebis gamoSveba, 

vin iqnebian, es winaswar aravin 

icis. Tu beselia iseTi yovlis- 

SemZlea, rom skolac Tavad daakompleqtos 

da Semdeg vinc saWirod 

miaCnia, is gaamwesos, mgoni, 

cota gadaWarbebulia. es imdenad 

gawelili procesia, mag 

droisTvis SesaZloa, arc qalbatoni 

eka iyos politikaSi da arc 

bevri Cvengani. realurad, sasamarTlo 

reforma 2025 wlamdea 

gawerili. es iTqva kidec, rom 

SegiZliaT, gaaCeroTo. Tu dRes 

yvela mosamarTle uvadod dainiSna, 

maSin raRa azri aqvs iusticiis 

umaRlesi skolis reformirebas?! 

maSin raRa azri aqvs 

axali mosamarTleebis gazrdas, 

Tu maTi dasaniSni adgilebi aRar 

iqneba qveyanaSi?! Cven politikosebi 

varT da, pirvel rigSi, sazogadoebis 

dakveTa unda SevasruloT 

da xalxis survili 

avsaxoT kanonmdeblobaSi. 

_ erTi ram cxadia, _ beseliam 

sazogadoebis TvalSi avtoriteti 

dakarga. aman xom ar ganapiroba, 

rom ivaniSvili mis dis- 

tancirebas cdilobs? aqtiurad 

ganixilaven, _ ivaniSvilis sti- 

lia periodulad konkretuli 

wevrebisgan partiis gawmendao. 

ramdenad aris es misTvis damax- 

asiaTebeli? 

_ ara mgonia, reputaciis Selaxvis 

gamo damatovebines partia. 

mec xom gadamwies, e. i. mxolod 

gawmendis logika ar muSaobs. 

vfiqrob, iuridiuli komitetis 

Tavmjdomaris posti beseliam 

zustad imitom datova, rom 

sxdomis Catareba SeuZlebeli 

gaxda. komitetis sxdoma rom 

Catarebuliyo, mniSvneloba ar 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

eqneboda komitetis daskvnas. es 

veRar gaaCerebda plenarul sxdomaze 

am mosamarTleebis siis 

gayvanas. winasaaxalwlo periodi 

iyo da damerwmuneT, aseT dros 

adamianebi modunebulebi da sxva 

Temebze gadarTulebi arian. Sesabamisad, 

ityodnen, rom saswrafod 

unda gaevloT es sakiTxi da 

uceb miiRebdnen gadawyvetilebas, 

rogorc xdeba xolme. xSir 

SemTxvevaSi adamianebs saSualebas 

ar aZleven, siRrmiseulad 

Caixedon konkretul sakiTxSi. 

saerTo CaTSi gamoagzavnidnen 

mesijs, rom mniSvnelovani sakiTxia 

da uceb unda mieRoT gadawyvetileba. 

Sesabamisad, bevri 

miscemda xmas, ase araerTxel 

gaukeTebia „pativcemul” Tavmjdomares. 

Tundac „sazogadoebriv 

mauwyebelTan” mimarTebiT 

iyo aseTi SemTxveva. beseliam 

Tavisi gadadgomiT mosamarTleebis 

daniSvnis es procesi SeaCera. 

rogorc axla vxedavT, Turme, 

yvela Tanaxma yofila, rom axali 

kriteriumebi Camoyalibebuliyo, 

Tumca manamde xmas ar 

iRebdnen. Tu es kriteriumebi ar 

arsebobda, maSin vis daniSvnas vapirebdiT?! 

axla taSs ukraven, 

Turme ra kargi procesi yofila, 

kriteriumebi unda gavwero- 

To, amis gareSe ras izamdnen _ 

ukriteriumod daniSnavdnen?! es 

swored zerele damokidebulebasa 

da TvalTmaqcobaze mianiSnebs. 

Tu adamians reputacia aqvs 

Selaxuli, mosamarTleebi ki ara, 

veravin uSvelis. Cveni sazogadoeba 

sakmaod maRali moralis 

matarebelia, Tu vinmes rame eSleba, 

amas Zalian kargad imaxsovrebs. 

zogadad, kargi mexsiereba 

gvaqvs, Tumca roca gvinda, 

maSin SegviZlia daviviwyoT, magaliTad, 

roca gvinda, adamians 

axali Sansi mivceT. ara mgonia, 

iseTi danaSaulebebi hqondes 

vinmes, vinc axla am procesis 

winaaRmdegia, rom es iyos gundidan 

maTi gaSvebis meqanizmi da 

amiT gundis gasufTavebis Sesa- 

Zlebloba hqondeT. sruliad 

absurdia is, rom, erTi mxriv, 

aseT xalxs uSvebde da, meore 

mxriv, imaT tovebde, vinc sazogadoebisTvis 

miuRebelia. 

_ dapirispirebis gamwvaveb- 

is pirvel dReebSi beseliam 

sazogadoebas gancda gauCina, 

rom is raRac Zalian mniSvnelo- 

vans ityoda. bevrma isic ifiqra, 

rom ivaniSvilis winaaRmdegac 

wavidoda, Tumca mas arc arafe- 

ri uTqvams. gasagebia, rom es mi- 

si politikuri taqtika iyo, Tu- 

mca Tqveni gadmosaxedidan ro- 

gor xsniT, beselia ukan misabr- 

unebel gzas itovebs ivaniSvil- 

Tan? 

_ beseliam Tqva is, rac Tqva , 

ar mgonia, rom es ukan dasabrunebeli 

gzis datoveba iyos. damijereT, 

mas arc aravin agdebs. 

Tu wamosvlas apirebs, ar vfiqrob, 

rom axla vinmes imis saSualebas 

miscems, ukan dasabrunebeli 

gza daitovos, radgan es ukve 

politikuri dapirispirebaa. aqedan 

gamomdinare, Tu rame kidev 

`kobaxiZem ganacxada: `germanelebma 

meore msoflio omis Semdeg ifiqres 

da gadawyvites, rom pasuxismgebloba 

liderebisTvis daekisrebinaT da 

mcire donis moxeleebisTvis, maT 

Soris, mosamarTleebisTvis - ara~. 

vfiqrob, es erT-erTi seriozuli 

skandalis Temaa. germaneli eri 

dRemde solidarul pasuxismgeblobas 

grZnobda, am adamianma ki ise 

gamoiyvana, TiTqos, iq araferi 

momxdara. is TviTgvema, rasac 

germaneli xalxi amdeni wlis 

ganmavlobaSi eweva, kobaxiZis 

gadasaxedidan, Turme, araferi 

yofila. ar SeiZleba, sakuTar 

qveyanaSic ki is msoflio tragedia 

ise daapataravo da iseTi umniSvnelo 

gaxado, rom saqarTveloSi mimdinare 

procesebs Seadaro~ 

saTqmelia da dagrovilia, am yvelafris 

Tqmas Tavisi etapebi da 

dro aqvs. ar SeiZleba, Zalian ma- 

Rali temperaturiT daiwyo da 

mere qvemoT Camoxvide. duRilis 

temperatura unda imatebdes da 

ara klebulobdes. vxedavT, rom 

sxva procesebi midis, dRes ukve 

sakanonmdeblo iniciativebiT 

mimdinareobs brZola. Tu sakanonmdeblo 

iniciativebi CixSi 

Seva, sazogadoebisa da xalxis 

interesi ugulebelyofili iqneba, 

ra Tqma unda, brZola sxva 

formatSi gadava. Tu politika 

parlamentSi ver lagdeba, Sesabamisad, 

politika quCaSi gamodis. 

swored amisTvis unda iyos 

resursebi datovebuli da temperaturis 

awevac am dros unda 

moxdes. 

_ beseliam amisTvis Seinaxa 

mTavari skandali? 

_ albaT, asea saWiro, radgan 

misi mTavari saTqmeli rom eTqva 

da darCeniliyo, alogikuri 

iqneboda. 

_ aqtiurad saubroben, rom 

SesaZloa, beselia Tavis Tanamo- 

azreebTan erTad „qarTul oc- 

nebas” gamoeyos. rogorc misi 

Tanamoazre da aqtiuri mxardam- 

Weri, _ xedavT Tu ara mis gver- 

diT sakuTar Tavs? 

_ kidev erTxel xazgasmiT vityvi: 

me Cemi gza avirCie. rodesac 

parlamentSi deputatebis 

garkveuli raodenoba iqneba, nebismieri 

formati, rac Tanam- 

Sromlobis saSualebas mogvcems, 

ra Tqma unda, viTanamSromleb. 

mimaCnia, rom sasamarTlo sakiTxebSi 

maT sakmaod maRali kompetencia 

aqvT, magram am qveyanaSi 

ara mxolod sasamarTloa problema. 

erT-erTi problematuria 

ybadaRebuli sabanko sfero. am 

nawilSi vinc CemTan iTanamSromlebs, 

gamixardeba. 

_ garkveul sakiTxebTan dakav 

avSirebiT TanamSromloba ga- 

sagebia, magram me gekiTxebiT, 

beselias gundis wevrad momavalSi 

sakuTar Tavs Tu moiaz- 

rebT? 

_ aravisze naklebi politikuri 

gamocdileba da ambicia ar 

gamaCnia, aqedan gamomdinare, veravis 

gundis wevri veRar gavxdebi. 

Cvens qveyanaSi naxevrad Camoyalibebuli 

politikosebi arian. 

isini mxolod da mxolod Teoriuli 

da politikuri kuTxiT arian 

ganviTarebulebi, mxolod es 

ar aris sakmarisi, amas Zalian 

cxovrebiseuli, praqtikuli gza 

sWirdeba, rom adamianebis kargad 

gesmodes. dRevandeli politikuri 

speqtris warmomadgenlebi, 

roca Cveni qveyana damoukidebeli 

gaxda, maSin Zalian patarebi 

iyvnen, iqidan ki pirdapir politikaSi 

CaerTnen. unda icode, 

rogor aaSeno damoukidebloba. 

erTi da igive wreze vtrialebT, 

Cveni gamowvevebi bolo 30 wlis 

ganmavlobaSi ar Secvlila. yvelas 

hqonda xelisuflebaSi yofnisa 

da raimes Secvlis saSualeba, 

Tumca SeZles warmatebiT Tavis 

garTmeva?! rac Semexeba me, 

vinmes gundSi yofnas didi xania, 

Tavi davanebe. 

_ Tqven TqviT, rom 30 welia, 

erTi da igive wreze vtrialebT. 

rogor fiqrobT, „qarTulma 

ocnebam” ratom ver SeZlo am 

wris garRveva _ resursi ar eyo, 

Tu amis politikuri neba ar 

iyo? 

_ 2012 wlis dapirebebidan 

romelime Seasrules? _ ara. 

vfiqrob, mxolod saarCevno dapirebebi 

Zalian cudi praqtikaa. 

dapirebebs Sesruleba sWirdeba. 

erTi ram zustad vici, _ Cems 

amomrCevels 2016 wels 4-punqtiani 

gegmis Sesrulebas ar vpirdebodi. 

me vpirdebodi bankebTan 

brZolas da am dapirebas vasruleb. 

merwmuneT, 4 wlis Semdeg 

bankebi im mdgomareobaSi aRar 

iqnebian, raSic 2016 wels iyvnen. 

„ocnebam” dapirebebi ar Seasrula, 

mas iseTi mxardaWera hqonda, 

rom nebismieri dapirebis Sesruleba 

SeeZlo. realurad, saxelmwifosa 

da xalxis vali gaizarda, 

gasayidic aRaraferi dar- 

Ca. 

_ am gadmosaxedidan rogori 

momavali aqvs im partias, rom- 

lis wevric iyaviT? 

_ „qarTul ocnebas” iseTive 

momavali eqneba, rogoric „moqalaqeTa 

kavSirs”. xelwera zustad 

erTnairi aqvT _ sakuTar 

TavSi Caketilebi, aravis naTqvami 

ar esmodaT. vfiqrob, rogorc 

„moqalaqeTa kavSiri” aRar 

axsovs aravis, ise aRaravis emaxsovreba 

„qarTuli ocneba”, Tu 

ase gaagrZeles. 1 weli, Semodgoma, 

_ es aris Zalian mniSvnelovani 

TariRi, Torem am qveyanaSi 

seriozulad daiwyeba deocnebizacia. 

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adgilobriv sasamarTloebSic. 

samoqalaqo davaa miwis nakve- 

Tze, qarTvel mosamarTleebs 4 

wlis ganmavlobaSi ver gadauwyvetiaT, 

vin aris mtyuani da vin _ 

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Tanamdebobis dakavebisa da saqmianobis 

uflebis CamorTmeva”, _ 

acxadebs prokuratura. 

braldebulebs, merab f.-sa da 

Tamar m.-s bralad edebodaT samsaxurebrivi 

mdgomareobis gamoyenebiT 

didi odenobiT sxvisi niv- 

Tis marTlsawinaaRmdego gaflangvis 

waqezeba, xolo Tamaz l.-s gaflangva, 

roca nivTi imyofeboda 

gamflangvelis marTlzomier 

mflobelobaSi. 

sasamarTlos cnobiT, Ria sasamarTlo 

ganxilvis dros braldebulebi 

ar aRiarebdnen bralad 

Seracxul qmedebas. 

prokuraturis gancxadebiT, 

sasamarTlo procesze gamokvleuli 

mtkicebulebebiT dadasturda, 

rom 2013-2016 wlebSi Sps „safinanso 

kompania saqarTvelos” direqtorma 

T.l.-m sazogadoebis damfuZneblis 

– T.m.-sa da kompaniis 

faqtobrivi mmarTvelis – m.f.-s 

waqezebiT, yovelgvari uzrunvelyofisa 

da ekonomikuri gaTvlebis 

gareSe, am ukanasknelis sasargeblod 

gaflanga 2343 moqalaqisgan 

sesxis saxiT aRebuli aTeulobiT 

milioni lari. 

samive piri sasamarTlom damna- 

Saved cno saqarTvelos sisxlis 

samarTlis kodeqsis 182-e muxlis 

meore nawilis „d” da mesame nawilis 

„b” qvepunqtebiT da 25,182-e 

muxlis meore nawilis „d” da mesame 

nawilis „b” qvepunqtebiT. 

„safinanso kompania saqarTvelos” 

direqtori Tamaz lobJaniZe 

da amave kompaniis faqtobrivi 

mmarTveli merab feraZe 2016 wlis 

16 seqtembers daakaves. 

sagamoZiebo samsaxuris cnobiT, 

sesxis saxiT merab feraZeze gasces 

meanabreTa mier Setanili 10 326 

096 lari, 13 292 949 aSS dolari 

da 796 136 evro, xolo Sps „gan- 

Tiadze” – 382 324 lari da 108 300 

aSS dolari. 

sagamoZiebo samsaxuris cnobiT, 

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sesxis saxiT merab feraZeze gasces 

meanabreTa mier Setanili 10 326 

096 lari, 13 292 949 aSS dolari 

da 796 136 evro, xolo Sps „gan- 

Tiadze” – 382 324 lari da 108 300 

aSS dolari. 

„safinanso kompania saqarTvelosgan” 

miRebuli Tanxa merab feraZem 

ar daabruna da piradi miznebisTvis 

gamoiyena, ris gamoc mni- 

Svnelovani finansuri ziani miadga 

kompaniis 2648 meanabres da maT 

mier kompaniaSi anabris saxiT Setanili 

Tanxa am dromde ar daubrunebia. 

amJamad safinanso kompaniis 

davalianeba meanabreTa mimarT 

Seadgens 76 000 000 lars, _ acxadebs 

sagamoZiebo samsaxuri. 

18 dekembers gamarTul sxdomaze 

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom 

merab feraZesa da Tamaz 

lobJaniZes aRkveTis saxiT patimroba 

Seufarda. 

„qronika+”-s Sps „safinanso 

kompania saqarTvelos” dazarale- 

bulebi daukavSirdnen. ra moxda, 

vis adanaSauleben da ras moiTx- 

oven isini? romeli politikuri 

pirebi figurireben aRniSnul 

saqmeSi? 

am da sxva saintereso detale- 

bze meanabreebi gvesaubrebian: 

nana gogiaSvili, dazaralebu- 

lis meuRle: 

_ televiziiT gavige, rom arsebobda 

safinanso kompania „saqarTvelo”. 

uamravi reklama gadioda da 

vxedavdi, rom es kompania Zalian 

bevr karg saqmes akeTebda. maT 

Soris, afinansebda „iumorinas”, 

daafinanses Sorena begaSvilis bav- 

Svis operacia, aseve vxedavdi, rom 

am kompanias hqonda lombardebi da 

Zalian bevri biznesi. rodesac xelisuflebaSi 

„ocneba” movida, Cemma 

meuRlem iq Tanxa Seitana. 

_ „ocnebis” xelisufleba ra 

SuaSia? 

_ „ocnebis” xelisuflebis periodSi 

meti ndoba gaCnda da, Sesabamisad, 

vendeT. 

_ ra raodenobis iyo es Tanxa? 

_ 2015 wels 22 aTasi dolari 

SevitaneT. 

_ ratom daabandeT amxela 

Tanxa am kompaniaSi? 

_ rTuli cxovrebiseuli pirobebidan 

gamomdinare, radgan ma- 

Rali procenti iyo da raRac konkretuli 

Tanxa yovel Tve damericxeboda. 

saxli gavyide, radgan 

janmrTelobis problema mqonda 

da germaniaSi mivdiodi samkurnalod. 

amis damadasturebeli sabuTebic 

maqvs da vifiqre, Tu am kompaniaSi 

davabandebdi fuls, is 

daricxuli procenti saWiro 

mkurnalobaSi cota wamadgeboda. 

_ Semdeg ra xdeba? 

_ rodesac Tanxa Sevitane, yvela 

operatorma erTxmad gviTxra, 

rom maT erovnuli banki uwevda 

meTvalyureobas da Semosavlis 5% 

oficialurad saxelmwifo biujetSi 

iricxeboda. garda amisa, am 

kompanias reklamas ukeTebdnen sazogadoebisTvis 

cnobili adamianebi. 

magaliTad, nani bregvaZis ojaxi, 

Temur wiklauri, Tamriko WoxoneliZe, 

nino zautaSvili; kompania 

afinansebda gadacema „samoTxis 

vaSlebs”, aseve didi doziT gadioda 

reklama sazogadoebriv 

mauwyebelze da, Sesabamisad, ndobis 

faqtori ufro maRali iyo. 

_ sazogadoebriv mauwyebelze 

gasuli reklama ratom aRmoCnda 

TqvenTvis ndobis garanti? 

_ imitom, rom ver warmovidgendi, 

sazogadoebriv mauwyebelze 

Tu SesaZlebeli iyo araseriozuli 

da TaRliTuri reklamis gaSveba. 

Cven gvegona, rom am arxze 

yvelaferi kontrolirebadi iyo. 

gvegona, rom saxelmwifo akontrolebma 

am arxs. 

maia beliaSvili, dazaralebuli: 

_ rodesac gavikiTxeT, rom „safinanso 

kompania saqarTvelo” „nacionalebis” 

dros 4 weli warmatebiT 

muSaobda da arc „qarTuli 

ocnebis” xelisuflebis periodSi 

hqonda raime saxis darRveva, Ziri- 

Tadi fuli kreditorebma swored 

am xelisuflebis periodSi SevitaneT. 

vifiqreT, radgan miSas xelisufleba 

wavida, undoblobis 

faqtorma Caiara da „ocnebis” xelisuflebas 

amitomac vendeT. piradad 

me 58 aTasi dolari Sevitane. 

es iyo Cemi ojaxis gayiduli 

uZravi qoneba. 

_ ratom endeT? 

_ yvelgan am kompaniis reklamebi 

trialebda, rom es iyo saimedo 

partniori kompania. roca pirvelad 

mivedi, miTxres, rom am kompaniis 

ukan 16 dasaxelebuli biznesi 

idga. kerZod: qvis samtexlo, aseve 

asxamdnen mineralur wyals, hqondaT 

ludsaxarSi, limonaTis warmoeba, 

sastumro, klinika, romelic 

dializis saxelmwifo programaSi 

iyo CarTuli da oficialurad 

saxelmwifo biujetidan finansdeboda; 

aseve hqonda, turistuli 

saagento, lombardebi, profilaqtikebi, 

bavSvebisTvis gakeTebuli 

stadioni, miwebi, tye, afinansebda 

soflis bavSvebs, yvelas 

Seuqmna pirobebi, ijariT aiRo 

tba, hyavda cxvris fara, Zroxebi, 

heqtrobiT miwa da ra vici, romeli 

erTi CamovTvalo. 

_ ramdenTviani xelSekruleba 

dadeT? 

_ ramdenimeTviani xelSekruleba 

mqonda dadebuli. CemiZlia, xatze 

davifico, rom kompania yovelgvari 

Seferxebis gareSe muSaobdamarina 

biWiaSvili, dazarale- 

buli: 

_ me da Cems ojaxs mTlianobaSi 

135 aTasi dolari gvaqvs Setanili 

da dRes maTxovrebad viqeciT. er- 

Ti anabari aris Cemi Zmis, romelic 

kamCatkaze muSaobs, mas bina 

unda eyida da 15 weliwadia, dRis 

Suqi ar unaxavs. 7 suli myavs ojax- 

Si da xeibari mama. Cven verc fuli 

miviReT, verc _ mogeba da Cveni 

mogebis Tanxebi biujetSi aris 

gadaxdili. 

medea jimSeleiSvili, daz- 

aralebuli: 

_ me, yvelaze bolos, 2016 wlis 

27 setembers 6 aTasi dolari Sevitane. 

saqmis kursSi viyavi, Tu ras 

saqmianobda es kompania da vende, 

radgan bazarze 9 weli arsebobda, 

uamravi damajerebeli reklama gadioda... 

insultiani deda myavda, 

umuSevari viyavi da am fuls wlebis 

manZilze vagrovebdi. Cemi nacnobebic 

iyvnen meanabreebi da sul 

meubnebodnen, Tu rogor kargad 

muSaobda es kompania. 

nana gogiaSvili, dazaralebuli: 

_ bolo dros kompanias ukve 

krizisi hqonda. televiziiT gavigeT, 

rom xalxma quCaSi gamosvla 

daiwyo. erTi wiTelTmiani qali 

aqciaze Zalian aqtiurobda. igi 

Tamaz meWiauris meuRle aRmoCnda. 

kompaniis damfuZnebelze ambobda, 


_ xalxo, me damijereT, meWiauris 

meuRle var da eseni TaRliTebi 

ariano. aseTi ambebi rom atyda, 

Cvenc meore dResve mivediT aqciaze. 

xalxi yviroda, rom feraZe 

dasjiliyo: moeklaT, daexrCoT, 

da a. S. Tumca adamianTa garkveuli 

jgufi am xalxs SeewinaaRmdega, 

radgan aseTi midgoma arafriT 

SeiZleboda. am adamians rom rame 

mosvloda, vin gadaixdida da gadaixdis 

Cvens valebs? 

_ daaxloebiT ramdeni adamian- 

ia dazaralebuli? 

_ 2 aTas kacze meti. 

marina biWiaSvili, dazarale- 

buli: 

_ finansurma policiam, prokuraturam 

da sami instanciis sasamarTlom 

dazarlebulTa zusti 

ricxvi ver daadgina. ai, aseTi gamoZieba 

da sasamarTlo gvyavs dRes. 

_ Semdeg ra xdeba? 

_ xalxi erTmaneTs dagvapirispires 

da calke mimdinareobda 

merab feraZis damuSaveba. meore 

turis arCevnebi damTavrda, es iyo, 

daaxloebiT, 2016 wlis 30 oqtomberi 

da qalbaton cira SaTaSvils 

konfidencialuri sabuTi 

gamoaqvs erovnuli bankidan _ 20 

seqtembris gankarguleba, sadac 

weria, rom kompania „saqarTvelos” 

aekrZalos fizikuri pirebisgan 

Tanxebis mozidva da mxolod iuridiuli 

pirebisgan SeZlos Tanxebis 

miReba. 

meWiauris megobari qalbatoni 

erovnul bankSi midis da gamoaqvs 

dokumenti, sadac weria, rom am 

kompanias SezRudvebs uweseben. 

_ raSi gamoixateba es SezRud- 

vebi? 

_ kompanias ubrZaneben, rom Sewyvitos 

reklama, aRar miizidos 

Tanxebi da dawios procentebi. 

2017 wlis 25 maiss sasamarTloze 

modis erovnuli bankis zedamxedvelobis 

samsaxuris ufrosi merab 

SalikaSvili da lobJaniZis advokatis 

kiTxvaze, _ hqonda Tu ara 

kompanias ufleba, reklama gaekeTebina 

50%-ze? SalikaSvili pauxobs, 

rom diax, hqonda amis ufleba. 

Tu ufleba hqonda, maSin ratom 

uwesebdnen kompanias SezRudvebs? 

merab feraZis kiTxvaze, _ icoda 

Tu ara man ori kompaniis arsebobis 

Sesaxeb? SalikaSvilma upasuxa: 

simarTle giTxraT, ar maxsovs, magram 

me arc vmalav, rom vicodi. 

cira SaTaSvili, faqtobrivad, 

xelSekrulebis damrRvevia, radgan 

mas xeli aqvs mowerili xelSekrulebaze, 

sadac weria: mxareTa 

Soris arsebuli dadebuli dava 

gadawydeba SeTanxmebis gziT, Seu- 

Tanxmeblobis SemTxvevaSi ki dava 

gadawydeba sasamarTlos meSveobiT. 

sad wavida SaTaSvili, _ sasamarTloSi? 

ra Tqma unda _ ara. is 

finansurSi mivida, sadac ar waikiTxes 

xelSekruleba da mas ar 

uTxres, _ qalbatono cira, xelSekrulebis 

pirobebis Sesruleba 

marto feraZes ki ar ekuTvnis, 

romelic procentebs gixdidaT, 

aramed Tqvenc gekuTvniT da mibr- 

ZandiT sasamarTloSi, CvenTan ratom 

moxvediTo? Semdeg prokuraturaSi 

mivida da arc iq waikiTxes 

aRniSnuli xelSekruleba 

da ar uTxres, rom cira SaTaSvilic 

damrRvevia. Sesabamisad, am 

qalbatonma Cemi uflebebic daar- 

Rvia da iciT, ratom? imitom, rom 

me ar mindoda merab feraZis daWera, 

arc maSin da arc axla. me damazarala 

am qalma. rogorc Cans, 

yvelas undoda feraZis daWera da 

amaSi SaTaSvili gamoiyenes. 


_ rodesac kompaniaSi krizisi 

Seiqmna, kostavas 76-Si meore ofisi 

funqcionirebda, sadac mevale- 

Ta siebs awarmoebdnen. isini dagvpirdnen, 

rom uaxloes periodSi 

gadaiWreboda Cveni problemebi da 

am Tanxebs gagvistumrebdnen. Semdeg 

yvela erTdroulad miawyda, 

atyda aJiotaJi, xalxi panikaSi Cavarda 

da aman kompaniis kolafsi 

gamoiwvia. 

_ realurad, ra informacias 

flobT, rogor fiqrobT, ra mox- 

da, ratom gakotrda „safinanso 

kompania saqarTvelo”? 

_ es kompania gakotrebuli aris 

Tu ara, jer kidev gasarkvevia. mar- 

Talia, merab feraZe, misi meuRle 

da kompaniis direqtori daiWires, 

magram TviTon kompanias ganacxadi 

gadaxdis uunarobaze ar daufiqsirebia. 

kompaniis gakotrebasTan 

dakavSirebiT ganacxadi arc damfuZnebels 

da arc direqtors 

sasamarTloSi ar SeutaniaT, Sesabamisad, 

ver vityvi, rom kompania 

gakotrebulia. amJamad yvelaferi 

gaCerebulia, magram ar vici, xval 

da zeg ra moxdeba. 

_ Tu ar aris gakotrebuli, 

maSin ra moxda? 

_ gonivruli eWvi gvaqvs, rom am 

kacis (merab feraZe) daWera da 

kompaniis („saqarTvelo”) gaCereba 

xelisuflebis mier dagegmili qmedeba 

iyo, radgan erovnuli bankis 

zedamxedvelobis deparamentis 

ufrosma merab SalikaSvilma sasamarTlo 

procesze ganacxada, rom 

es kompania safinanso bazarze qveynis 

finansur stabilurobas uSlida 

xels. kontrolirebadi biznesidan, 

anu bankebidan, Tanxebi gaedineba 

arakontrolirebad sfero- 

Si, anu feraZis „kantoraSio”. aqedan 

gamomdinare, erovnulma bankma 

yvelaferi gaakeTa, rom es kompania 

gaeCerebina. erovnulma bankma 

20 seqtembris gankarguleba gamosca, 

ris mixedviTac kompanias fizikuri 

pirisgan ekrZaleboda Tanxebis 

mozidva da mxolod iuridiuli 

pirebisgan SeeZlo am operaciis 

ganxorcieleba. 

gavarkvieT da aRmoCnda, rom 

kompania, romelsac 19 seqtembris 

gankargulebiT akrZalvebi dauwesda, 

iyo Zveli kompania, romelic 

2008 wels lamara feraZeze (merab 

feraZis da) iyo daregistrirebuli. 

roca aJiotaJi Seiqmna, kompaniaSi 

mivediT da gviTxres, rom 

Cven ar viyaviT am kompaniis klientebi. 

Sesabamisad, aranairi akrZalvebi 

da SezRudvebi ar hqonda 

dawesebuli, radgan sxva saidentifikacio 

kodi hqonda. gviTxres, 

rom mdgomareoba cota xanSi gamoswordeboda 

da yvelaferi kalapotSi 

Cadgeboda. 

_ eWvobT, rom merab feraZe 

specialurad daiWires? 

_ ra Tqma unda. 

_ ratom awyobda merab feraZis 

daWera xelisuflebas? 

_ merab feraZe 2016 wlis arCevnebSi 

damoukidebel kandidatad 

iyrida kenWs. Sesabamisad, es ar 

awyobda xelisuflebas. politikurad 

ar moswondaT da undodaT, 

rom mTeli es qoneba misTvis waerTmiaTmedea 

jimSeleiSvili, daz- 

aralebuli: 

_ 2016 wels, arCevnebis win, 

rodesac kompaniaSi krizisuli periodi 

iyo, merab feraZe sasamarTlo 

procesze yveba (maSin mosamar- 

Tle lili msxilaZe iyo), rom mis 

saxlSi luka kurtaniZe mivida, romelmac 

uTxra, _ partiam („qarTuli 

ocneba”) gamomgzavna SenTan da 

saarCevnod fuli unda gvaCuqo, 

„nacebs” xom 2 milioni mieci, axla 

Cven 3 milioni dolari gvinda, oRond 

es ambavi aravin unda gaigoso. 

feraZem uTxra, rom es xalxis 

fulia da 3 milions ver mogcemo. 

mokled, saboloo jamSi, kurtaniZem 

feraZisgan 2 milion-naxevari 

dolari mainc waiRo. meore dRes 

ki feraZe prokuraturaSi wavida 

da iCivla, _ fuli gamomZaleso! 


_ garda amisa, feraZe sasamarTloze 

aseve axsenebda vinme gulvas, 

romelic varkeTilis gamgeobaSi 

muSaobda. es adamianic sTxovda 

saarCevnod Tanxebs. man aseve axsena 

RaribaSvilis simamri TamazaSvili, 

rom e. w. kaxur mafias misi 

CaZirva surda. 

marina biWiaSvili, dazarale- 

buli: 

_ procesidan gamosul 

prokuror oqropiriZes vekiTxebi, 

_ batono vano, am wuTSi patimarma 

feraZem luka kurtaniZe Tanxis 

gamoZalvaSi amxila da es Tanxa 

Cveni fuli iyo-meTqi. man gvipasuxa, 

_ es kaci damnaSavea da Sei- 

Zleba, yvelaferi Tqvaso. 

_ saqme ra etapzea? 

_ saqme dasrulebulia, sasamarTlos 

sami instancia gaimarTa. 

mosamarTleebma lili msxilaZem, 

naTia barbaqaZem da paata silaga- 

Zem ar ganixiles am dazaralebuli 

adamianebis saqme. erTi dazaralebuli 

mtkvarSi gadaxta, erTma 

Tavi CamoixrCo SimSilisgan. me 

Tu mkiTxavT, merab feraZe did 

saqmes akeTebda qarTvelebisTvis, 

bevri SimSils gadaarCina. rvaasma 

kacma xeli movawereT, rom saprocesoTi 

gamoeSvaT es adamiani, magram 

uzenaesma sasamarTlom da 

prokuraturam Cveni Txovna ar 

gaiTvaliswina. 

nana gogiaSvili, dazaralebuli: 

_ saboloo jamSi, „safinanso 

kompania saqarTvelo” yvela sxva 

safinanso kompaniasa da bankebs 

konkurencias uwevda. merab feraZis 

warmatebuli biznesi aravis 

awyobda. kreditorebSi musirebs 

azri da gvajereben, rom am saqmeSi 

piradad biZina ivaniSvilia Careuli 

da araferi gamogviva, _ SeegueT 

gakotrebaso. erT dReSi 

CaZires mTliani kompania. 

_ fiqrobT, rom merab feraZe 

ivaniSvilis piradi patimaria? 

_ diax, radgan am qveyanaSi samarTals 

ver mivaRwieT. 

_ dabolos, ras moiTxovT 

dRes da ras apirebT? 

_ saqme ZiebaSi xelmeored dabrundes. 

Tu feraZe damnaSavea, mas 

yvela is adamiani miusxdes, vinc 

Cvens dazaralebaSi miiRo monawileoba. 

pirvel rigSi, dazaralebulebis 

interesebi unda iyos daculi 

da saxelmwifom agvinazRauros 

es davalianeba. 

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qarTuli Rvinis kompaniebi 

kompaniebi ukve meored monawileobdnen 

„Prowein Shanghai 2017"-Si, 

romelsac uamravi vizitori, maT 

Soris, distributori, importiori 

da Rvinis profesionali eswreba. 

gamofenis farglebSi Catarda 

qarTuli Rvinis specializebuli 

degustacia-seminarebi, romelsac 

Rvinis erovnuli saagentos kontraqtori, 

Rvinis magistri debra 

meiburgi uZRveboda. 

Rvinis erovnuli saagentos mxardaWeriT, 

wels gamofenaSi monawileobdnen 

Semdegi kompaniebi: „mosmieri”, 

„meRvineoba xareba”, „besini”, 

„tiflisski vinni pogreb”, 

„TbilRvino”, „jiveli”, „GWS”, 

„Sato muxrani”, „winandali - XXI 

saukunis saukeTeso Rvinoebi”, „qimerioni”, 

„marani”, „vaziani kompani”, 

„vazisubnis mamuli”, „korporacia 

qinZmarauli”, „yvarlis sardafi”, 

„falavani”, „KTW”, „Heritage 

Wines Georgia”, „duglaZeebis Rvinis 

kompania”, „Sps alaverdi”, „giuaani”, 

„Teliani veli”, „qarTuli Rvinis 

saxli”, „CigogiZe vains”, „kaxuri 

Rvinis marani”, „meRvineoba danieli”, 

„Silda”, „vainmeni” da „ikano”. 

„qronika+~-is mkiTxvelisTvis, 

albaT, sainteresoa, vin arian am 

kompaniebis mflobelebi da ra 

rols asruleben isini qarTuli 

biznesis ganviTarebis saqmeSi. 

Sps „mosmieri” 2017 wlis 25 aprils 

daregistrirda sajaro reestrSi, 

Tumca noemberSi ukve SeZlo 

gamofenaze gamgzavreba. misi direqtori 

iorg maTiesia (germania), 

xolo mflobeli Sps „jorjian hospitaliti 

investments”. 

kompanias marTaven: iorg maTiesi 

(85%), givi lafauri (7.5%), TinaTin 

guliaSvili (7.5%). 

givi lafauri Sps „nikora-kaxe- 

Tis” direqtoria, xolo TinaTin 

guliaSvilTan erTad kidev erTi 

Rvinis kompaniis, Sps „kaxeTis Rvinis 

centris” aseve 7,5%-7,5%-is 

mflobeli. am kompaniis direqtoric 

maTiesia, xolo 85%-is mflobeli 

Sps „smart jorjian venCars”. 

maTiesi am kompaniis direqtoradac 

gvevlineba da isic 2017 wlis 25 

aprilsaa daregistrirebuli. 

iorg maTiesi Sps „saqarTvelos 

industriuli jgufis” generaluri 

direqtori iyo 2016 wlis 

noembridan 2017 wlis martamde, 

2009-dan 2013 wlamde „jorjian 

voTer end faueris” generaluri 

direqtori. aseve Sps „ai-em enjinering 

euraziis” direqtori, romlis 

40%-s flobs Sps „smart jorjian 

venCars”, xolo 60%-s _ „aiem 

enjinering inTerneiSenal” (Sveicaria). 

Sps „meRvineoba xarebis” mflobelebi 

arian: 

vaxtang lipartiani 0.3% (Sps 

„aqva geo”, Sps „vaCnaZiani”, Sps „kobi”); 

aleqsandre xarebava 0.5% (Sps 

„xevis nobaTi”, Sps „kolxuri nobaTi”, 

Sps „viqtoria 2012", Sps „intel 

medi”, Sps „kobi”, Sps „qarTuli 

perspeqtiva”, Sps „imerimpeqsi”, Sps 

„intel-agro-servisi”, Sps „peritto”, 

Sps „aligatori”, Sps „viqtoria-98", 

Sps „saqarTvelos marani”); 

Sps „meRvineoba xareba” 52.2%; 

Sps „saqarTvelos marani” 42%; 

Sps „vaCnaZiani” 5% 

sameTvalyureo sabWos wevrebi: 

vaxtang lipartiani; 

giorgi imnaZe; 

aleqsandre xarebava; 

aRmsarulebeli direqtori _ 

aseve aleqsandre xarebava. 

2017 wlis aprilidan amave wlis 

dekembramde aRmasrulebeli direqtori 

iyo nika zautaSvili. 2019 

wlis 18 ianvris monacemebiT, zautaSvili 

ss „T & r distribuSenis” 

sameTvalyureo sabWos wevria, kompaniis 

yofil mflobelsa da dirqtorTan, 

rafiel suramelaSvilTan 

da Temur WyoniasTan erTad. 

direqtori zurab aRniaSvilia. 

ss „T & r distribuSeni” (2019 

wlamde monacemebiT, Sps „T & r 

distribuSeni”) yuradRebis centrSi 

moeqca kompania „omegasTan” 

xangrZlivi da skandaluri sasamarTlo 

davis gamo. 

vaxtang lipartiani „qarTuli 

ocnebis” Semomwirvelia. man partias 

2014 wels 37 353 lari Cauricxa. 

igive Tanxa aqvs gadaricxuli 

aleqsandre xarebavasac, 2016 wels 

ki 60 000 laris Semowiruloba 

gaiRo. 

Sps „tiflisski vinni pogrebis” 

direqtori nino xaziuria, xolo 

mflobeli _ Sps „dk-servisi” (ruseTis 

federacia), Sps „dk-servisis 

generaluri direqtoria sergei 

gavrilievi (Sps „maresis” damfuZnebeli). 

es kompania samSeneblo 

biznesSia, xolo misi mflobelia 

Sps „terras” damfuZnebeli da 

direqtori elena SCelkanova. 2014 

wlis oqtombramde generaluri 

direqtori german lisovi iyo. IDFI 

kvlevis Tanaxmad, dokumentebiT 

irkveva, rom „tifliski vinni pogrebis” 

100%-iani wili „dionisem” 

„dk serviss” 2014 wlis oqtomber- 

Si 2 aTas larad mihyida. 

ss „TbilRvino” 1996 wels dafuZnda. 

aRmasrulebeli direqtoria 

zurab margvelaSvili, xolo prezidenti 

_ giorgi margvelaSvili. 

sameTvalyureo sabWos mar- 

Taven: 

1. omar margvelaSvili 

2. paata salia, romelic 2013 

wels dafuZnebuli saqarTvelos 

saarbitraJo asociaciis gamgeobis 

wevria; 

aseve Sps „ji ei pi” konsaltingis 

gamgeobis wevri (mflobelebi: 

zaza mefariSvili _ 50%, sps „gabunia 

da partniorebi” _ 50%); 

asociacia advokatTa skolis 

gamgeobis wevri; 

Sps „arti jgufis” direqtori 

(mflobelebi: qibar xalvaSi _ 44%, 

guram gogua _ 30%, niaz xalvaSi _ 

12%, Tamaz beriaSvili_ 7%, ivane 

ruaZe_ 7%); 

Sps „gabunia da partniorebis” 

direqtori da wilis mflobeli 

(dimitri gabunia _ 45%, wils mar- 

Tavs salia mas Semdeg, rac gabunia 

prezidentis saparlamento mdivani 

gaxda), paata salia _ 45%, giorgi 

talaxaZe 10% _ „qarTuli ocnebis” 

Semomwirveli. man 2017 wels 40 

000 lari Cauricxa partias). 

Sps „baTumi terminal holding 

kompanis” damfuZnebeli da direqtori; 

Sps „terminal 1"-is direqtori 

giorgi JvaniasTan erTad (mflobelebi: 

sofio wereTeli 80%, akaki 

Cxenkeli 10%, Sps „baTumi terminal 

holding kompani” 10%). 

akaki Cxenkeli 2014 wlis deklaraciis 

mixedviT, saqarTvelos 

Sinagan saqmeTa saministros generaluri 

inspeqciis (departamenti) 

ufrosis moadgile (departamentis 

direqtoris moadgile) da saqar- 

Tvelos mTavrobis kancelariis 

regionebsa da adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis 

organoebTan urTierTobebis 

departamentis ufrosi 

iyo, mdgomareobiT _ Sss-s korufciasTan 

da ekonomikur dana- 

SaulTan brZolis mTavari sammarTvelos 

ufrosis moadgile. 

Sps „ji es ligal” (direqtori 

da damfuZnebeli); 

Sps „baTumi port niu horaizon” 

(dafuZnda 2019 wlis ianvar- 

Si; salia kompaniis direqtoria 

giorgi JvaniasTan erTad, xolo 

mflobelebi arian: sofio wereTeli 

45%, akaki Cxenkeli 5%, Sps „ba- 

Tumi terminal holding kompani” 

50%). 

Sps „manganumis mopovebis kompania” 

(direqtori SoTa WoWua, 

grigol beraZe 70%, joni jRarkava 

20%, paata salia 10%); 

Sps „strategiuli dagegmvisa da 

komunikaciis centri” (xaTuna pai- 

WaZe 50%, dimitri gabunia 25%, 

paata salia 25%); 

xaTuna paiWaZe 2015-2017 wleb- 

Si iyo saqarTvelos regionuli ganviTarebisa 

da infrastruqturis 

saministros sazogadoebasTan ur- 

TierTobis departamentis ufrosi. 

Sps „jorjian kosmetik” (direqtori 

SoTa WoWua, mflobelebi: 

paata salia _ 5%, SoTa WoWua _ 

95%); 

3. zurab nayeuri, romelic ramdenime 

kompaniis direqtoria: 

Sps fainnaTi _ giorgi CaCibaia 

(33.33%), SoTa buxaiZe (33.33%), 

zurab nayeuri (33.34%); 

Sps „s kazino” _ avTandil wereTeli 

(100%); 

Sps „studia maestro” _ giorgi 

gaCeCilaZe (55%), Sps „media finans 

grup bi.vi” (niderlandebi, 25%), 

mamuka Rlonti (15%), ekaterine 

akobia (5%); 

Sps media raiTs jorjia _ 

zurab nayeuri, giorgi sulaZe, 

dimitri bokeria, manana gegelaSvili 

(25-25%) 

sxvadasxva dros nayeuri diretori 

iyo kompaniebSi: Sps „sastumro 

yazbegi”, Sps GEOBET, Sps „aviatori”, 

Sps „ear jorjia”. 

„duglaZeebis Rvinis kompania” 

kidev erTi saintereso kompaniaa, 

miT umetes, rom SeaRavaTiani 

agrokreditis programis benficiaria. 

kompania 2004 wels dafuZnda. 

mflobelebi iyvnen daviT da 

zaal duglaZeebi, malxaz yanCaveli 

da daviT kapanaZe. direqtori 

_ manana axvlediani. 

2016 wlis seqtembridan partniorebis 

sia Semdeg saxes iRebs: 

aleqsandre ivaniSvili _ 23% 

(Sps „orxevi” 2, Sps „aisi ink”, Sps 

„iness”, Sps „fb - distribucia”, Sps 

„citadeli”, Sps „tornado +”); 

zaal duglaZe (direqtori) _ 

23% 

(Sps „mTawminda-95", Sps „duglaZeebis 

Rvinis koleqcia”, Sps 

„orxevi 2", Sps „orxevi kompani”, Sps 

„aisi ink”, Sps „iness”, Sps „fb _ 

distribucia”); 

malxaz yanCaveli _ 23%; 

(Sps „orxevi 2", Sps „samgori 

tbori”, Sps „pirveli”, Sps „mTawminda-95", 

Sps „duglaZeebis Rvinis 

koleqcia”, Sps „orxevi kompani”, 

Sps „aisi ink”, Sps „iness”, Sps „fb - 

distribucia”); 

daviT duglaZe _ 23%; 

(Sps „mTawminda-95", Sps „orxevi 

2", Sps „orxevi kompani”, Sps „aisi 

ink”, Sps „lomis mTa”, saqarTvelos 

Widaobis erovnuli federacia 

(2016 wlamde); 

giorgi kapanaZe (ruseTis federacia) 

8%. 

(Sps „orxevi 2", Sps „mTawminda- 

95", Sps „orxevi kompani”, Sps „fb _ 

distribucia”) 

2013 wels kompaniam „qarTubankis” 

kreditiT SeiZina varcixis 

koniakis qarxana. 

amave wels moxda Sps „duglaZeebis 

Rvinis koleqciisa” da Sps 

„duglaZeebis Rvinis kompaniis” 

Serwyma. kompaniis kreditori ss 

„qarTu-bankia”. 

daviT duglaZe 2012 wels iyo 

„erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis” 

Semomwirveli. man partias 60 000 

lari Cauricxa. 2016 wels 50 000 

lari „qarTul ocnebas”, 2017 wels 

60 000 lari „qarTul ocnebas”, 

xolo 2018 wels 10 000 lari 

salome zurabiSvils Cauricxa. 

zaal duglaZem „qarTul ocnebas” 

Seswira 30 000 lari 2016 

wels da 40 000 lari 2017 wels. 

malxaz yanCavelma 2016-17 wleb- 

Si 50.000-50.000 lari Cauricxa „qarTul 

ocnebas”, xolo 2018 wels 

5000 lari salome zurabiSvils. 

cnobisTvis: SeRavaTiani agrokreditis 

proeqti inicirebulia 

saqarTvelos soflis meurneobis 

saministros mier da mas 

2013 wlis 27 martidan axorcielebs 

soflis meurneobis proeqtebis 

marTvis saagento. 

SeRavaTiani agrokreditis farglebSi 

ZiriTad saSualebebze gacemuli 

sesxis Tanxa ganisazRvreba 

20 000 laridan 600 000 aSS 

dolaramde an misi ekvivalenti 

larSi, xolo sesxis vada ar unda 

aRematebodes 84 Tves. 

sesxis saprocento sargeblis 

Tanadafinanseba moxdeba saagentos 

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mier, sesxis ZiriTadi Tanxis wliuri 

11%-is odenobiT, romelsac 

saagento gadaixdis sesxis grafikis 

Sesabamisad, msesxeblis mier 

sesxis momsaxurebis paralelurad. 

2017 wels kanis 70-e saerTa- 

Soriso kinofestivalze qarTuli 

mxatvruli filmis mxardasaWerad 

warmodgenili iyo „duglaZeebis 

Rvino” da axalgazrda qarTveli 

reJisorisa da prodiuseris kinodebiuti 

kanSi swored qarTuli 

Rvinis mxardaWeriT Sedga. 

daviT duglaZis saxeli gvxvdeba 

SeaRavaTiani agrokreditis kidev 

erTi beneficiari kompaniis mmarTvelTa 

Soris. es aris ss „gomis 

spirtis da aryis kompania”, romlis 

direqtoria malxaz WyoiZe, sameTvalyureo 

sabWos ki warmoadgenen 

daviT duglaZe, marlen nozaZe da 

malxaz yanCaveli. duglaZe da yan- 

Caveli, rogorc vnaxeT, „dugla- 

Zeebis Rvinis kompaniis” mflobelebi 

arian. 

SeRavaTiani agrokreditebis 

beneficiarTa Soris, romelTa 

kreditori „qarTu-bankia”, gvxvdeba 

zemoT naxsenebi „tiflisski vinni 

bogreb”, aseve ss „sarajiSvili”. 

kompaniis aRmasrulebeli direqtoria 

zurab bubuteiSvili 

(Sps „jovane jentile”, Sps „jorjia 

kardon kompani”, Sps „sarajiSvili 

distileri”, Sps „sadistribucio 

kompania sarajiSvili”, 

Sps „marjaniSvili 19") 

generaluri direqtori _ elguja 

bubuteiSvili (Sps „sastumro 

mcxeTa”, Sps „anasa”). 

sameTvalyureo sabWos wevrebi 

arian: marina malazonia; 

Tengiz jafariZe (Sps „anasa”); 

Tengiz adamaSvili; 

gela Sengelia. 

2004-2006 wlebSi ss „sarajiSvils” 

Seerwya sami kompania: Sps 

„daviT sarajiSvili da kompania”, 

Sps „gremi”, Sps „eniseli”. 

zurab bubuteiSvilma 2016-27 

wlebSi 60 000-60 000 lari Cauricxa 

„qarTul ocnebas”, xolo 

2018 wels _ 50 000 lari salome 

zurabiSvils. 

SeRavaTiani agrokreditebiT 

sargebloben sxva kompaniebic, romlebic 

warmatebiT moRvaweoben 

ucxour bazarze: 

Sps „gruzvinpromi” _ direqtori 

mamuka foTolaSvili. 100%- 

iani wilis mflobeli Sps Bolero & 

Company, romlis mflobeli aseve 

foTolaSvilia. 

Sps Bolero & Company, garda 

ruseTisa da CineTisa, warmatebuli 

eqsportoria evrokavSiris qveynebSi. 

da saxelisuflebo kavSirebi 

mamuka foTolaSvili „qarTuli 

ocnebis” Semomwirvelia. man 2017 

wels 50 000 lari Cauricxa partias. 

Sps „qinZmaraulis maranis” kreditori, 

iseve rogorc zemoT moxseniebuli 

kompaniebisa, aris „qar- 

Tu banki”. kompaniis direqtoria 

irakli talaxaZe, xolo mflobelebi: 

maia askurava (39,5%) da 

julieta xoferia (60,5%). 

CineTis bazarze warmatebiT 

moRvawe kompaniebs Soris moxseniebulia 

ss „korporacia qinZmarauli”, 

romlis sameTvalyureo sab- 

Wos wevrebi arian: 

Tamaz konWoSvili (Sps „gagelani”, 

saqarTvelos Widaobis erovnuli 

federacia _ yofili prezidiumis 

wevri 2013 wlidan, aseve kaxeTis 

Widaobis federaciis yofili 

wveri, Sps „yvareli palasi”); 

kaxaber konWoSvili (Sps „saWidao 

klubi yvareli”, Sps „gagelani”, 

Sps „yvareli palasi”); 

nino stefaniSvili, lali daTuaSvili, 

givi rozomaSvili, nodar 

bilaniSvili, xolo direqtori _ 

nugzar qsovreli. 

Sps „maTrobela vainz” _ direqtori 

da 90%-iani wilis mflobeli 

irakli Tofuria (Sps „saerTa- 

Soriso saxli”, Sps „axali skola”, 

Sps „vinosofia”) 10% _ soso gogiliZe. 

Sps „meRvineoba graneli” _ direqtori 

da mflobeli nugzar sajaia. 

sajaia sxvadasxva dros diretori 

iyo kompaniebSi: Sps „saqarTvelos 

Rvinoebi”, Sps „alkoholuri 

sadistribucio kompania Rvinis 

samefo”. flobda Sps „inter 

gazis” 50%-ian wils da Sps „platoniCis” 

100%-ian wils, romelic 

ss „sqaldas” 2006 wels gamoeyo. 

Sps „Salauris Rvinis marani” _ 

direqtori daviT buaZe; 

daviT buaZe, 25% _ Sps „aparta”, 

Sps „kampa”, Sps „martvilis wylebi”, 

Sps „mwvane kalaTa”, Sps „pragmatika”, 

saerTaSoriso fond „kuracios” 

direqtorTa sabWos wevri 

2012 wlis monacemebiT. 

giorgi maxaraZe, 25% _ levan 

miqelaZis saxelobis fondis gamgeobis 

wevri; qarTuli emigraciis 

darbazis megobrebis sameTvalyureo 

sabWos wevri. 

zurab bokuCava, 25% _ Sps „arqiteqtoruli 

firma ardu”, Sps 

„piramida-89", Tbilisis farikaobis 

federaciis wevri. 

giorgi niJaraZe, 25% _ Sps „ragbis 

ganviTarebis jgufi”, Sps 

„qarTuli ragbi”. 

Sps „kardenaxi 1888" _ direqtori 

guram maxoSvili. wilis mflobelebi: 

guram maxoSvili 34%, mamuka 

maxoSvili 33%, malxaz maxoSvili 

33%. 

Sps „maranuli” _ direqtori 

koba kvetenaZe (Sps „infrastruqturis 

ganviTarebis kompania”, Sps 

„bajiTi”, Sps „oriemi”, Sps „neqsT 

jenereiSen teqnoloji”, Sps „sofTmasteri”, 

Sps „imkomi”, Sps „zelmani”, 

Sps „imgo”); 

mflobelebi: giorgi kilaZe 

33.34% (Sps Real Estate Construction, Sps 

„kodu”, Sps „Tbilisi grup”, Sps 

„realgazi”). mixeil jafariZe 

33.33% (Sps „sative”, Sps Real Estate 

Construction, Sps „kodu”, Sps „Tbilisi 

grup”, Sps „realgazi”, Sps 

„sivordi”). 

roena gognaZe _ 33.33% (Sps „bajiTi”, 

Sps „Tbilisi grup”). 

gagrZeleba iqneba 

daTo gamcemliZe: `Tu es tendencia gaZlierda, veranairi 

èlituri konsensusi~ saqarTvelos saxelmwifos ver gadaarCens!~ 

mecxre gverdidan 

_ gamaognebeli absurdia, TiTqos „biZina 

ivaniSvils unda „anakliis” warTmeva xazaraZisTvis”. 

ki magram, es rom sdomoda, jer 

Tavad iyo premier-ministri, Semdeg giorgi 

kvirikaSvili da... ra SeuSlida xels, „anakliis” 

tenderi Tavidanve „moego”? mis xelSi 

ar iyo yovelive? 

_ kidev erTi sakiTxi: rogor fiqrob, 

okupirebuli teritoriebis Tema sxvadasx- 

va gamokiTxvis mixedviT ratom aris erT- 

erTi rigiTi da xom ar aris saSiSroeba, 

rom TaobaTa cvlasTan erTad saerTod 

gaqres qveyanaSi arsebuli problemebis 

CamonaTvalidan? 

_ samwuxarod, sazogadoebrivi aRqmis 

TvalsazrisiT es tendencia Seuqcevadia: 

SeuZlebelia mudmivad iyos prioriteti is, 

risic sazogadoebas ukve, ubralod, aRar 

sjera: metismetad didi dro gavida molodinsa 

da imedian dapirebebSi... 

_ axla ki ruseTis konteqstSi vikiTxav: 

„surkovis doqtrina”, anu surkovis istoriuli 

narativi „putinizmis” ideolo- 

giaze mavans sasacilod ar eyo. Tumca cxa- 

dia, rom es ar aris haerSi gasrolili 

sibr 

brZne. am doqtrinis mixedviT, unda vivaraudoT 

Tu ara rom, okupirebuli teritoriebi 

arasodes gaxdeba Cveni? da yve- 

laze mTavari: ramdenad awyobT es Tavad 

okupirebul teritoriebze mcxovrebT? 

_ surkovis „doqtrinaSi”, iseve rogorc, 

Tavis droze, Cubaisis „liberalur imperiaSi”, 

sasacilo araferia. surkovma, evfemizmebiTa 

da interpretaciebiT, sakmaod zustad 

aRwera reJimi, rac misive monawileobiT 

Camoayaliba vladimir putinma bolo 20 

wlis ganmavloabSi. 

Tavis mxriv, putini ruseTis zemZlavr 

specsamsaxurebsa da, zogadad, Zalismier 

struqturebs eyrdnoboda, romlebmac 1999 

wels prezidenti elcini aiZules, swored 

putini daeniSna memkvidred. 

aq laparakia ara „surkovis doqtrinaze”, 

aramed „putinis doqtrinaze”, romelsac 

vimeoreb: misi interpretaciebiTa da evfemizmebiT 

aRwers _ mxolod aRwers(!) surkovi, 

rogorc am doqtrinis erT-erTi adepti, 

misi promouteri da interpretatori. 

Tavad doqtrina ki Cveulia am qveynisTvis 

imperatorebidan _ stalinamde da sxva 

genmdivnebamde: erTpirovnuli diqtatura, 

elituri kontroli da resursTa mobilizaciis 

sistema. 

swored es antidemokratiuli komponentebia 

sistemis sayrdeni, xolo surkoviseuli 

„siRrmiseuli xalxi” da sxva fsevdoistoriosofiuri 

inveqtivebi, mxolod misi 

SefuTvis „mcdeloba”. 

_ ra ZiriTadi miniSnebebi da aqcentebi 

migaCnia sayuradRebod „surkovis doqt- 

rinidan”? 

_ mTavari, Cemi azriT, am narativis eqspansionisturi 

Sinaarsi da agresiuli antidasavlurobaa, 

rac imas niSnavs, rom moskovi 

aucileblad gaagrZelebs hibridul 

oms evropuli civilizaciis winaaRmdeg _ 

amerika am civilizaciis nawilia, rac bevr 

safrTxesa da risks uqadis, maT Soris, 

saqarTvelsac. 

_ dabolos, ramdenad Zlierad arian 

saqarTveloSi warmodgenili is Zalebi da 

maTi mxardamWerebi, romlebic „putiniz- 

mis” realizebas uwyoben xels? 

_ aseTi Zalebi arsebiTad ar arian warmodgenilni 

saqarTvelos politikur klas- 

Si. marginalur jgufebs saTvalavSi nu CavagdebT. 

sinamdvileSi, „putinizmis” gamarjvebis 

safrTxes is realoba Seicavs, rodesac 

verc politikuri klasi, verc, zogadad, 

qarTuli istebliSmenti ver axerxebs 

mosaxleobis farTo fenebisTvis cxovrebis 

normaluri, adamianuri pirobebis Seqmnas, 

anu ver axerxebs, martivad Tu vityviT, 

„qveynis dalagebas” ukve 25 welia da mudmivi 

arastabilurobiT, stresebiT, ryevebiT, 

socialur-ekonomikuri problemebis 

simwvaviT, elituri korufciT, resursTa 

gadanawilebis uTanasworobiT, sxva aTasgvari 

socialuri usamarTlobiTa da mankierebiT, 

kacTmoZule, SinaarsiT antievropuli 

„libertarianuli ideologiis” gafetiSebiT 

da Sesabamisi praqtikiT, „pasuxismgebeli 

saxelmwifos” keTilSobili evropuli 

koncefciis uaryofiTa da singapureli 

li quan ius „kaciWamia filosofiiT”, 

aseve gamanadgurebeli, karcerogenuli 

ekologiuri problemebiT da sruli 

ganukiTxaobiT Zirs uTxris am saxelmwifos 

safuZvelTa-safuZvels: xalxis gulwrfel, 

araTeatralizebul survils, icxovros 

damoukidebel saxelmwifoSi da iluzorulad 

ar eZebos ararsebuli „mamamarCenali” 

CrdiloeTSi. 

Tu es tendencia gaZlierda, veranairi 

„elituri konsensusi” saqarTvelos saxelmwifos 

ver gadaarCens! 

amis pirveli samwuxaro simptomebi vixileT 

2008 wlis agvistoSi, roca mteri qveyanaSi 

SemoiWra, lamis mTeli saqarTvelo 

tankebiT Semoiara igoeTidan _ xaSuramde 

da zugdididan _ foTi-senakamde, Tumca 

„msroleli” TiTqmis aravin aRmoCnda, cxinvalTan 

daRupuli erTeuli gmirebis garda. 

imitom, rom passionaruli erovnuli pasuxi 

aseT egzistenciur gamowvevaze mxolod 

im SemTxvevaSia SesaZlebeli, Tu xalxi 

masobrivad grZnobs „bmas” sakuTar saxelmwifosTan. 

xolo amgvari „bmis” gareSe, Cem 

mier nagulisxmevi „elituri konsensusis 

zednaSeni”, raoden myaric ar unda Candes 

igi garegnulad, rogorc ki „saqme-saqmeze 

midgeba”, xuxulasaviT CamoiSleba. 

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`jandacvis reformam, romliTac òcneba~ 

`jandacvis reformam, romliTac òcneba~ 

„qarTul ocnebas” rom hkiTx- 


oT, mas Semdeg, rac xelisuflebaSi 

movida, Cvens qveyanaSi cx- 

ovreba TandaTan win midis. metic: Tbilisis meri, kaxa kalaZe 

da sxva Cinovnikebi arc imis Tqmas eridebian, rom saqarTvelo- 

Si uamravi samuSao adgilia, magram xalxs muSaoba ezareba da 

cudad amitom cxovrobs. es rom cinizmia, wyali ar gauva. 

wyali arc imas gauva, rom jandacvis reforma, konkretulad, 

e. w. ufaso dazRveva, romliTac „ocneba” Tavs iwonebs, sapnis 

buStia da meti araferi. 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, gaerTianebuli 

opoziciis warmomadgeneli, 

parlamentis yofili deputati, 

manana jebaSvili, ambobs, rom „ocnebis” 

jandacvis reformam kraxi 

ganicada. SeiZleba, zogma Tqvas, 

rom opoziciis warmomadgenlis es 

Sefaseba subieqturia, magram am 

azrs saqarTvelos mosaxleobis 

arcTu mcire nawili iziarebs. 

xSiria SemTxvevebi, roca adamianebi, 

romlebsac imedi aqvT, rom 

ufaso jandacvis programaSi arian, 

samedicino dawesebulebaSi misvlis 

Semdeg sxva realobis winaSe 

dgebian. 

kidev erTi Tema, romelic jandacvas 

exeba, C hepatitis programaa, 

romliTac „ocneba” aseve Tavs 

iwonebs, magram irkveva, rom am 

programis farglebSi, xelisuflebis 

uniaTobis gamo, aseulobiT 

aTasi dolari wyalSi Caiyara. 

yvelaferi es aCens gonivrul eWvs, 

rom qarTul jandacvaSi korufcia 

fesvgamdgaria. 

amas garda, viTarebas jandacvis 

sferoSi arsebuli monopoliebic 

arTulebs. erTi sityviT, jandacvis 

sferoSi sruli domxalia. 

am fonze daviT sergeenko mainc 

warmatebul ministrad saxeldeba 

da is, Tea wulukianis msgavsad, 

Svidi welia, Tanamdebobas inar- 

Cunebs. ratom? _ es kiTxva „qronika+”-ma 

manana jebaSvilsac dausva. 

opozicioneris azriT, sergeenko 

warmatebuli ministri ki ar 

aris, is, ubralod, oligarqis 

keTilganwyobiT sargeblobs da 

amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi Tanamdebobas 

amitomac inarCunebs. 

„qronika+~ gTavazobT inter- 

vius manana jebaSvilTan: 

_ „qarTuli ocneba” Tavis erT- 

erT warmatebul reformad e. w. 

ufaso jandacvas miiCnevs, Tumca 

am programas mowinaaRmdegeebi 

Tavidanve hyavda. qalbatono mana- 

na, Tqven, rogorc profesionali 

eqimi, jandacvis sistemas kargad 

icnobT. ra aris „ufaso jandacv- 

is” mTvari nakli da, saerTod, am 

programam jandacva mosaxleo- 

bisTvis xelmisawvdomi gaxada? 

_ ufaso, anu sayovelTao jandacva 

im SinaarsiT, rasac es termini 

gulisxmobs _ yvelas janmrTelobis 

dacva da yvelas janmrTelobaze 

zrunva, saxelmwifos mxridan, 

sruliad adekvaturi qmedebaa. 

ganviTarebuli qveynebi mosaxleobis 

socialur da janmrTelobis 

dacvas axorcieleben, magram 

Cvens qveyanaSi, deklarirebuli 

sayovelTaobis miuxedavad, am mimarTulebiT 

uamravi problemaa. 

sayovelTao jandacvis programis 

erT-erTi yvelaze didi problema 

xarjebis marTvaa. 

_ ras gulisxmobT? 

_ am programis Sesasruleblad 

biujetidan gamoyofili Tanxebi 

arasakmarisia da misi ganusazRvreli 

da usasrulod zrda xdeba. amis 

Sesakaveblad xelisuflebam gada- 

24 

wyvita, rom programa SezRudos da 

servisebic Seamciros. 

magaliTad, 2017 wels, ambulatoriuli 

servisebiT sargeblobidan 

milion-naxevarze meti dabal- 

Semosavliani moqalaqe saerTod 

amovarda. arada, pirveladi jandacvis 

reforma saxelmwifom prioritetad 

gamoacxada. Tu qveyana- 

Si ar aris Zlieri pirveladi jandacva, 

aseve Tu daavadebebi adreul 

stadiaze ar gamovlinda da umkurnales, 

maSin jandacvis xarjebi 

Zalian didi iqneba da mis Sekavebas 

veranairi RonisZiebebiT Se- 

Zleben. 

garda amisa, jandacvaze danaxarjebis 

Sekavebis erT-erT mniSvnelovan 

meqanizmad jandacvis 

dafinansebis konkurentuli modelia 

aRiarebuli, rac jandacvis 

saxelmwifo programis marTvaSi 

mravali gadamxdelis (sadazRvevo 

kompania) monawileobas gulisxmobs. 

es modeli maT Soris konkurencias 

qmnis. konkurenciis regulirebas 

ki, Tavis mxriv, saxelmwifo 

axdens. 2008 wlidan saqarTvelos 

jandacvis sistemaSi ganxorcielebuli 

reformebis Sedegad 

konkurentuli sadazRvevo sistema 

SemoiRes. sadazRvevo kompaniebs 

jandacvis saxelmwifo programebis 

marTvaSi monawileobis ufleba 

miecaT, dazRveulebs ki _ sadazRvevo 

kompaniebis Tavisufali 

arCevnis. 

konkurentuli modelis SemoRebiT 

saqarTvelo msoflios jandacvis 

sistemis erT-erT yvelaze 

Tanamedrove da progresul xedvas 

exmianeboda. samwuxarod, saqarTvelom 

marTuli konkurenciis principebs 

gadauxvia da, sayovelTao 

jandacvis saxelmwifo programis 

farglebSi erTi gadamxdelis arakonkurentul 

sistemas daubrunda. 

amis Sedegad miviReT jandacvaze 

danaxarjebis usaSvelo 

zrda, programis SezRudva, servisebis 

Semcireba, momsaxurebis dabali 

xarisxi, saxelmwifos mxridan 

samedicino dawesebulebebis mimarT 

ramdenimeTviani davalianeba, 

ukmayofilo eqimebi da aseve ukmayofilo 

pacientebi. 

_ yovelive aqedan gamomdinare, 

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom „ufaso jan- 

manana jebaSvili: `xalxis fuli 

jandacvaSi didi raodenobiT 

ixarjeba, magram amiT avadmyofoba 

da sikvdilianoba ki ar mcirdeba, 

viRacebi mdidrdebian!~ 

dacvas” korufciis riskebi ax- 

lavs? 

_ dRes saqarTveloSi jandacvis 

iseTi modelia, romelic jansaR 

konkurenciasa da gamWvirvalobas 

xels ar uwyobs. samagierod, 

waxalisebulia oligopoliebi da 

karteluri garigebebi. miuxedavad 

imisa, rom msoflioSi sxvadasxva 

warmatebuli magaliTi arsebobs, 

Tu rogor SeiZleba am mimarTulebiT 

reformebis ganxorcieleba, 

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas jandacvis 

saministros CaTvliT, 

mcdelobac ki ar aqvs, rom am mxriv 

rame Secvalos. 

_ ratom? 

_ amas SeiZleba, ori axsna hqondes 

_ xelisuflebas es dargi an 

ar esmis da saTanado kompetencia 

ar gaaCnia, an is garkveuli finansuri 

garigebis nawilia. 

_ „ocnebam”, Tavis droze, re- 

ceptebis sistemac aamoqmeda, rac 

e. w. saafTiaqo narkomaniis winaa- 

Rmdeg brZoliT axsna, Tumca dRes 

nebismieri preparatis yidva, maT 

Soris, fsiqotropulisac, ure- 

ceptod Tavisuflad SeiZleba. ra 

gamodis _ receptebis SemoReba 

piarkampania iyo Tu aqac garkve- 

ul finansur maqinaciebamde 

mivdivarT? 

_ receptebis sistemis danergva, 

romelic aucileblad gasatarebeli 

reforma iyo, Tavidanve 

naklovanebebiT warimarTa. bolo 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi ki sruliad 

CamoiSala, magram mis aRmosafxvrelad 

mainc araferi gakeTebula. 

zogadad, receptiT mkurnalobis 

sistema marto saafTiaqo 

narkomanis winaaRmdeg ki ar aris 

saWiro, aramed aucilebelia pacientis 

TviTmkurnalobis Tavidan 

asacileblad da polipragmaziis 

Sesamcirebladac. 

ukontrolod medikamentebis 

miReba avadmyofisTvis sazianoa, 

rac zogjer Seuqcevad cvlilebebsac 

iwvevs. gamokiTxvebisa da 

kvlevebis Sedegad gamovlinda, 

rom mosaxleobis 51%-is SefasebiT, 

reforma aseTi saxiT uaryofiT 

zegavlenas axdens masze da 

mis ojaxze; mosaxleobis 82% acxadebda, 

rom wamlebze fasebi gazrdilia; 

mosaxleobis 42%-s hqonia 

SemTxveva, rodesac avadmyofobis 

dros ver misula eqimTan imis gamo, 

rom konsultaciebis fasi maRali 

iyo da es damatebiT mZime finansur 

tvirTs warmoadgenda. 

„saerTaSoriso gamWvirvalobis” 

kvlevis mixedviT, TviTmkurnaloba 

rCeba seriozul problemad, 

kerZod, mosaxleobis 25%-s bolo 

12 Tvis manZilze antibiotiki an 

fsiqoaqtiuri medikamenti mainc 

miuRia eqimis daniSnulebisa da receptis 

gareSe. ase rom, verc erTi 

is mizani, romelic receptis SemoRebas 

isaxavda miznad, ver iqna 

miRweuli. metic: rogorc saerTa- 

Soriso fond „kuracios” kvleva 

gviCvenebs, receptiT gasacem medikamentebze 

fasnamati gacilebiT 

metia, vidre _ ureceptod gasacem 

medikamentebze. 

kerZod, receptul original 

brendebze fasnamatis done 89%-iT 

metia, vidre amave kategoriis ureceptod 

gasacem medikamentebze, 

receptul generikebze fasnamatis 

done ki mTeli 210%-iT metia, vidre 

amave kategoriis ureceptod 

gasacem medikamentebze. mravali 

mowodebisa da dapirebis miuxedavad, 

jandacvis saministrom isic ki 

ver moaxerxa, rom eleqtronuli 

receptebis sistema daenerga, rac 

garkveul naklovanebebs moagvarebda. 

samwuxarod, receptis danergvis 

sistemis iniciativac, rogorc 

sxva danarCeni, warumatebeli aRmoCnda 

da mxolod piarkampaniis 

roli Seasrula. 

_ zogadad, msoflioSi Znelad 

moiZebna iseTi qveyana, sadac, 

saqarTvelos msgavsad, yvela fex- 

is nabijze afTiaqia. saafTiaqo 

bizness konkretuli Cinovnikebi 

„kriSaven” da fuls mSieri xalxis 

xarjze Souloben, Tu am qvey- 

anaSi xalxi marTlac isea avad, 

rom amdeni afTiaqi realurad 

saWiroa? 

_ Cvens qveyanaSi xalxi namdvilad 

avadaa da amis mravali mizezi 

arsebobs. pirveli is aris, rom 

adamianebi saTanadod ver ikvebebian, 

ver misdeven cxovrebis jansaR 

wess, cxovroben mowamlul, dabin- 

Zurebul da stresul garemoSi; 

amasTan, gaumarTavia pirveladi jandacva 

da prevencia, rac sruliad 

sakmarisia, rom eri daavadebuli 

iyos, magram miuxedavad amisa, gansakuTrebiT 

sayuradReboa Cvens 

qveyanaSi medikamentebze bevrad 

ufro maRali fasebi, vidre evropasa 

da postsabWoTa qveynebSi. 

kidev erTi problema oligopoliuri 

farmacevtuli bazaria, 

rac, Tavis mxriv, konkurencias 

zRudavs da wamlebis arabunebrivad 

maRali sacalo fasis damkvidrebas 

uwyobs xels, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom farmacevtuli produqtis 

mimoqceva dRg-sa da importis 

gadasaxadisgan ganTavisuflebulia. 

calke ganxilvis Temaa xarisxis 

kontrolis meqanizmis ararseboba. 

dRemde ver moxerxda farmacevtuli 

warmoebis e. w. GMP (kargisawarmo 

praqtikis) standartis 

SemuSaveba. 

roca erTi mesakuTris xelSia 

farmacevtuli warmoeba, distribucia, 

sadazRvevo, saafTiaqo da 

klinikebis qselebi, aseve msxvili 

banki, es didi problemaa. aseTi biznesmodeli 

namdvilad ar uwyobs 

xels arc konkurencias, arc _ xarisxis 

gaumjobesebas da arc _ faswarmoqmnis 

politikas. am monopoliebis 

daSla sakmaod rTulia. amas 

sakanonmdeblo bazis gadaxedva 

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Tavs iwonebda, kraxi ganicada!~ 

da saxelmwifos neba sWirdeba, 

romelsac ver vxedavT. piriqiT, 

rogorc Cans, moxeleebi aseTi biznesmodulis 

gamyarebas xels uwyoben. 

metic: is, rac klinikebTan dakavSirebiT 

xdeba, naTeli magali- 

Tia, rom saministro cdilobs, „moaxrCos” 

saSualo da mcire klinikebi 

da saTamaSo velze mxolod 

msxvili gaerTianebebi datovos. 

yvelafer amis Sedegad ki pacienti 

zaraldeba. 

savaraudod, msgavsi sqemebi saxelmwifos 

maRali pirebisa da Sesabamisi 

lobistebis gareSe ver 

iarsebebda. 

aseve kargi iqneba, Tu antimonopoliuri 

samsaxuri obieqturad 

Seiswavlis farmacevtul biznesSi 

arsebul situacias. 

_ saqarTveloSi samedicino 

biznesi erTob warmatebulia. 

msoflioSic asea? ise, SeiZleba, 

rom medicina biznesi iyos? 

_ geTanxmebiT, rom samedicino 

biznesi saqarTveloSi zogierTi 

kompaniisTvis sakmaod warmatebulia. 

magaliTad, „eveqsis” sufTa 

mogeba, romelic 35%-ze gadis, 

Zalian didia da es maSin, rodesac 

evropaSi 10-15%-c ki karg maCveneblad 

iTvleba. 

2012-dan 2019 wlamde jandacvis 

biujeti 5-jer gaizarda, magram 

avadoba da sikvdilianoba ar Semcirebula, 

piriqiT, zogierT nozologiaSi 

gaizarda kidec, rac 

imaze miuTiTebs, rom xalxis jibidan 

biujetSi Segrovili fuli 

jandacvaSi didi raodenobiT ki 

ixarjeba, magram avadmyofobisa da 

sikvdilianobis Semcirebas ki ar 

iwvevs, aramed viRac-viRacebs amdidrebs, 

rac imaze miuTiTebs, rom 

jandacvis saministro Tanxebs araefeqtianad 

da arasworad xarjavs. 

isic faqtia, rom jandacvis 

reformam, romliTac xelisufleba 

Tavs iwonebda, kraxi ganicada! 

_ Cvens qveyanaSi aseve xSiria 

SemTxvevebi, roca pacientebi med- 

personals garkveul braldebebs 

uyeneben. es mizanmimarTuli kampaniaa 

Tu qarTveli eqimebis naw- 

ili marTlac araprofesionalia? 

_ saqarTveloSi eqimebic da pacientebic 

daucvelebi arian! 

msoflios ganviTarebul qveynebSi 

arsebobs saeqimo dazRveva, 

rac eqims saSualebas aZlevs, Tavi 

daicvas, Tu pacienti usafuZvlod 

moindomebs misTvis braldebis wayenebas. 

samwuxarod, araprofesionali 

eqimebic arseboben. amis gamo mravali 

pacienti, romelsac ver dausves 

diagnozi an diagnozi dausves, 

magram ver umkurnales, samkurnalod 

ucxoeTis sxvadasxva qveyanaSi 

miemgzavreba. es aris problema 

da mis gadasaWrelad kompleqsuri 

RonisZiebebis gatarebaa sa- 

Wiro da ara mxolod gamocda resertificirebisTvis, 

rogorc amas 

`C hepatitis programuli indikatorebi, razec 

jandacvis saministroa pasuxismgebeli, ver 

sruldeba da Tanxebic auTvisebeli rCeba. 

magaliTad, wina wels, vadis gasvlis gamo, 2000 

samkurnalo doza ganadgurda. erTi samkurnalo 

dozis Rirebuleba, daaxloebiT, 80 000 

amerikuli dolaria, anu zarali kolosaluria. 

am sakiTxze gamoZiebac dawyebulia~ 

am sakiTxSi arakompetenturi pirebi 

moiTxoven. 

samedicino ganaTleba yvela 

doneze unda gadaixedos. saWiroa 

programebis ganaxleba, swavlebis 

procesSi msoflioSi aRiarebuli 

saukeTeso saxelmZRvaneloebis 

danergva, swavlebis sxvadasxva me- 

Todis gamoyeneba da a. S. 

aseve saWiroa postdiplomuri 

ganaTleba savaldebulo gaxdes da 

am procesSi CaerTos dargobrivi 

samedicino asociaciebi, samedicino 

biznesi, farmakologiuri kompaniebi, 

romelTac SeuZliaT uzrunvelyon 

treningebis, seminarebis, 

konferenciebis, kongresebis, simpoziumebis 

mowyoba. aseve aucilebelia 

paTanatomiuri ganxilvebisa 

da konsiliumebis Catareba. 

mniSvnelovania saxelmwifos 

daxmarebac ucxoeTSi eqimebis gadamzadebis 

proeqtebTan dakavSirebiT. 

aucilebelia eqimebis waxaliseba, 

maTi Sromis, unarebis, ganaTlebis, 

pasuxismgeblobis, kvalifikaciisa 

da profesionalizmis 

mixedviT. 

savaldebulo postdiplomuri 

ganaTlebis pirobebSi eqims ufro 

meti motivacia eqneba, monawileoba 

miiRos sxvadasxva saganmanaTleblo 

RonisZiebaSi, gaecnos diagnostikisa 

da mkurnalobis axal me- 

Todebs da gamoiyenos praqtikaSi. 

_ qalbatono manana, kiTxvebi 

arsebobs C hepatitis progra- 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

masTan dakavSirebiTac, anu sa- 

zogadoebis nawili miiCnevs, rom 

am programis farglebSi prepa- 

ratis gamocda xdeba da amaSic 

fuli keTdeba. amaze ra informa- 

cia gaqvT da, saerTod, C hepati- 

tis es programa msoflioSi apro- 

birebulia? 

_ C hepatitis programa srulad 

dafinansebuli da mxardaWerilia 

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis 

mTavrobis mier da aseve amerikuli 

kompania „gileardis” mier. 

qarTuli mxaris valdebulebaa pacientebis 

moZieba da programaSi 

CarTva, rac samwuxarod, saTanadod 

ver sruldeba. 

2015 wels jandacvis saministros 

mier Catarebuli kvlevis 

mixedviT, qveyanaSi C hepatitiT 

inficirebuli pirebis raodenoba 

150 000-mde aRwevda. C hepatitis 

eliminaciis misaRwevad saWiro 

iyo, 120 000 adamians emkurnala. 

mkurnaloba mxolod 50 000-ma pacientma 

Caitara. 

programis mixedviT, 2020 wlamde 

saxelmwifom unda uzrunvelyos 

kidev 70 000 adamianis mkurnaloba. 

faqtia, rom saqarTvelos valdebulebas 

mxare ver Seasrulebs. 

TviTon programa Zalian sasargebloa 

_ mravali adamiani ganikurneba, 

magram samwuxaroa, rom pacientebis 

moZieba programaSi Casar- 

Tavad aqtiurad ar moxda. am mimarTulebiT 

ar iyo saTanado sainformacio 

kampania da propaganda, 

cudad imuSava pirveladma jandacvam, 

romelsac C hepatitiT 

daavadebulebi unda gamoevlina. 

aseve diagnostikis nawilSi, sadac 

pacients unda gadaexada, iyo 

finansuri barieri (xelmisawvdomobis 

problema), ramac, garkveulwilad, 

daavadebulTa gamovlenis 

procesi Seaferxa. 

C hepatitis programuli indikatorebi, 

razec jandacvis saministroa 

pasuxismgebeli, ver sruldeba 

da Tanxebic auTvisebeli rCeba. 

magaliTad, wina wels, vadis gasvlis 

gamo, 2000 samkurnalo doza 

ganadgurda. erTi samkurnalo 

dozis Rirebuleba, daaxloebiT, 

80 000 amerikuli dolaria, anu 

zarali kolosaluria. am sakiTxze 

gamoZiebac dawyebulia. 

_ gamoZieba, SeiZleba, dawyebu- 

lia, magram mTavaria, obieqturi 

Sedegi daidos... sainteresoa 

gaerTianebuli opoziciisa da, 

kerZod, „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

xedva _ rogori unda iyos qarTu- 

li jandacvis sistema? 

_ me, sergo CixlaZem da profesionalTa 

gundma SevimuSaveT qar- 

Tuli jandacvis sistemis reformirebisa 

da ganviTarebis koncefcia, 

romelic warmoadgens gaer- 

Tianebuli opoziciis dokuments. 

Tu xelisufleba Cvens xedvebs gaiziarebs, 

mivesalmebiT da davexmarebiT 

kidec. 

Tu arada, maSin TviTon ganvaxorcielebT 

xelisuflebaSi mosvlisTanve. 

saqarTveloSi sayovelTao jandacvis 

programaSi saxelmwifo 

erTi gadamxdeli da monopolistia, 

rac xarjebis permanentuli 

zrdis mTavari mizezia. Tanamedrove 

msofliom jandacvaze danaxarjebis 

Sekavebis erT-erT mniSvnelovan 

meqanizmad jandacvis dafinansebis 

konkurentuli sistema 

aRiara, romelic jandacvis saxelmwifo 

programis marTvaSi mravali 

gadamxdelis monawileobas 

gulisxmobs, rac maT Soris konkurencias 

qmnis. 

saxelmwifo ki, Tavis mxriv, 

konkurencias aregulirebs. konkurentuli 

modelis SemoRebis 

umTavresi mizania: jandacvis xarjebis 

zrdis Sekaveba; saxelmwifo 

jandacvis programebis efeqtiani 

marTva; samedicino momsaxurebis 

xarisxis amaRleba. 

rac Seexeba konkurentuli modelis 

upiratesobebs, esenia: utilizaciis 

menejmenti; faswarmoqmnaze 

dadebiTi gavlena; sadazRvevo 

kompaniebisa da samedicino 

organizaciebis mesakuTreobis 

mravalferovneba da arCevis ufleba; 

sabaziso pakets zeviT servisebze 

konkurencia. 

jandacvaze danaxarjebis Sekavebis 

meore mniSvnelovani faqtori 

pirveladi jandacvis gamarTuli 

muSaobaa. saerTod, pirveladi jandacva 

is safuZvelia, romelzedac 

jandacvis sistemis yvela sxva 

dargi Sendeba. 

Cveni mizania, realurad da swrafad 

daviwyoT qmediTi nabijebis 

gadadgma am dargis reformirebisTvis, 

rac daavadebebis prevenciis 

an adreul etapze gamovlenis 

saSualebas mogvcems. saboloo 

jamSi, letalobisa da avadobis 

(gul-sisxlZarRvTa, onkologiuri, 

infeqciuri da sxv.) maCvenebeli 

moiklebs. 

daavadebebis axali kerebis gamovlenis, 

vaqcinaciisa da samkurnalo 

programebSi beneficiarTa mo- 

Zieba-CarTvis maCveneblebis gasaumjobeseblad 

aucilebelia sazogadoebrivi 

jandacvis regionuli 

centrebis gaZliereba, dafinansebis 

sqemis gadaxedva da programuli 

prioritetebis sworad 

gadanawileba. 

saqarTvelos jandacvis erTerTi 

mniSvnelovani gamowveva 

wamlebis xelmisawvdomoba, xarisxi 

da fasebia, rac mZime finansur 

tvirTad awveba mosaxleobas. Cven 

gvaqvs ramdenime konkretuli ini- 

ciativa, magaliTad, rogoricaa 

wamlebis mikvlevadobis (e-CTD) 

savaldebulo registraciisa da 

wamlebis mikvlevadobis (Traceability) 

inovaciuri sistemis danergva, rac 

saSualebas iZleva, moxdes wamlebis 

identifikatorisa da sasaqonlo 

tranzaqciebis erT bazaSi Tavmoyra 

da informaciis damuSaveba. 

es iniciativebi gaamartivebs qveyanaSi 

axali medikamentis Semosvlisa 

da Seswavlis process, gaaumjobesebs 

wamlis Semowmebisa da 

xarisxis kontrols, Seamcirebs biurokratiasa 

da administrirebis 

xarjebs. 

es instrumenti aseve mniSvnelovani 

iqneba qarTul bazarze 

aralegaluri wamlebis brunvis 

aRmosafxvreladac. 

Cveni gundi Seiswavlis farmacevtul 

bazarze arsebul oligopoliebs, 

vertikalur monopoliebsa 

da farTe konsensusiTa da 

mtkicebulebebze dayrdnobiT 

xels Seuwyobs konkurentuli da 

samarTliani sabazo garemos Seqmnas. 

Tanamedrove sainformacio-sakomunikacio 

teqnologiebis gamoyeneba 

jandacvis sistemaSi iqneba 

Cveni gundis erT-erTi prioriteti. 

warmatebuli eleqtronuli 

jandacva _ e. w. e-Health integrirebuli 

iqneba jandacvis yvela mimarTulebaSi. 

moxdeba Sesabamisi 

normatiuli bazis mowesrigeba da 

saWiro programuli platformebis, 

servisebisa da bazebis daxvewaganviTareba. 

mniSvnelovania, amaRldes ndoba 

mosaxleobaSi jandacvis sistemisa 

da samedicino personalis 

mimarT, rasac xels Seuwyobs samedicino 

momsaxurebis xarisxis gaumjobeseba, 

samedicino personalis 

kvalifikaciis amaRleba, uwyveti 

samedicino ganaTlebis standartebis 

danergva da arsebul samedicino 

servisebsa da programebze 

mosaxleobis ukeTesi informirebuloba. 

Cven gansakuTrebul yuradRebas 

davuTmobT jandacvis sfero- 

Si statistikis mowesrigebas da 

mtkicebulebebze dafuZnebuli 

gadawyvetilebebis miRebas. yvela 

Cveni reforma da axali programa 

Tu proeqti gamyarebuli iqneba Sesabamisi 

kvlevebiT, sando statistikiTa 

da gamWvirvale kalkulaciT. 

_ ise, yovelive zemoTqmulidan 

gamomdinare, SeiZleba, sergeenko 

warmatebul ministrad CaiTvalos? 

ra aris mizezi, rom 7 we- 

lia, Tanamdeboas inarCunebs? 

_ dRes, rodesac vsaubrobT 

amden gadauWrel problemaze, 

samedicino momsaxurebis xarisxi, 

programebis araxarjTefeqtianoba, 

wamlebis xarisxi da fasebi, jandacvis 

gauaresebuli monacemebi 

mTeli rigi mimarTulebebiT, davalianebebi 

samedicino klinikebisadmi 

da personalisadmi, pirveladi 

jandacvis katastrofuli Cavardnebi 

da sxva, rac unda simpaTiiT 

viyo ganwyobili misi pirovnebisadmi, 

sergeenkos karg ministrad 

ver vaRiareb, vinaidan arc kargi 

menejeria da arc jandacvis sistemis 

ganviTarebis xedva aqvs. 

sergeenko, romelic 7 welia, 

ucvleli ministria, iseve rogorc 

wulukiani an sxva, romelmac verafriT 

gamoiCina Tavi, mxolod 

oligarqis keTilganwyobiT inar- 

Cunebs Tanamdebobas. 

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ukve cnobilia, rom 10 marts „eqspojorjiaSi” Tako Carkvi- 

anis partiis _ „kanoni da samarTali” prezentacia gaimarTeba. 

vin iqnebian saxalxo poet jansuR Carkvianis Svilis Tanagundelebi? 

_ es sakiTxi, am etapze, nawilobriv gasaidumloebulia, 

Tumca „qronika+”-ma gaarkvia, rom Tako Carkvianis partiis 

liderSifi axalgazrdebiTa da im adamianebiT dakompleqt- 

deba, romlebic sxvadasxva profesiaSi warmatebulebi arian 

da sazogadoebis ndobiTac sargebloben. 

axali partiis erT-erTi saxe 

26 wlis giorgi cobexiaa. giorgi 

soxumelia _ ori Tvis iyo, afx- 

azeTis omi rom daiwyo da misma 

ojaxma qalaqi datova. marTalia, 

giorgi TbilisSi gaizarda, magram 

ambobs, rom soxums mainc Tavis 

qalaqad miiCnevs da afxazeTTanac 

bevri ram akavSirebs. 

giorgi iuristia _ ilias saxelmwifo 

universitetis magis- 

traturaSi swavlobs. amasTan, 

advokatobis gamocdilebac aqvs. 

2018 wlis oqtombramde is erTerTi 

saxelmwifo uwyebis iurid- 

iul departamentSi muSaobda, 

saidanac imis gamo gamouSves, rom 

Svilmokluli mamis, zaza saral- 

iZis mxardamWer aqciaze sityviT 

gamovida, anu, SeiZleba iTqvas, 

rom giorgi cobexias samsaxuri 

politikur represiebs Seewira. 

axali partiis axali saxe „qro- 

nika+”-Tan imis Sesaxeb saubrobs, 

politikaSi ris gakeTebas apirebs 

da aqve imasac ganmartavs, Tu ra- 

tom aris kargi, rom adamianebi 

politikasa da, zogadad, xelisuflebaSi 

sufTa warsuliT movid- 

nen: 

_ saxelmwifo samsaxuridan 

sakuTari surviliT wamoxvedi Tu 

gamogiSves? 

_ samsaxuridan wamosvlaze gancxadeba 

piradi surviliT davwere, 

Tumca es politikur sakiTxs ukav- 

Sirdeboda. 

_ anu? 

_ zaza saraliZis mxardamWer 

aqciaze sityviT gamovedi da amis 

Semdeg yvelaferi air-dairia. am 

sakiTxze saubari ar minda, radgan 

iq Cemi megobrebi muSaoben da Sesa- 

Zloa, problemebi maTac SeeqmnaT, 

Tan am ambavSi Cemi uSualo xelmZRvaneli 

damnaSave ar aris. 

_ e. i., Sens uSualo xelmZRv- 

anels davaleba zemodan misces? 

_ ra Tqma unda. samarTlebrivi 

dava rom damewyo, asidan asive 

sasamarTlos movigebdi, radgan 

sxva Tu araferi, samsaxuridan gan- 

Tavisuflebis Sesaxeb erTi TviT 

adre unda gavefrTxilebine... 

_ erTi sityviT, politikuri 

represiebis msxverpli xar, ara? 

_ marTalia, problemebi mxolod 

samsaxurSi Semeqmna da vTq- 

26 

vaT, policiaSi ar davubarebivarT, 

magram diax, politikuri represia 

sakuTar Tavze gamovcade. 

_ da amis Semdeg gadawyvite, 

rom aqtiuri politikuri saqmi- 

anoba dagewyo? 

_ roca usamarTloba xdeba, pasuxi 

aucileblad unda gasce. Tu 

ase ar moiqcevi, maSin qudi unda 

daixuro da am qveynidan saerTod 

waxvide... imaSi axali araferia, rom 

saqarTveloSi adamianebs politikuri 

niSniT devnian _ es adrec 

xdeboda da dResac xdeba, magram 

Cveni mizani da mTvari amocanaa, 

rom aseTi raRac xval aRar moxdes. 

_ giorgi, es pirveli usamarT- 

loba iyo, romelsac „ocnebis” 

saqarTveloSi SeeCexe? 

_ samwuxarod, usamarTlobas 

Zalian xSirad vawydebiT, magram es 

Zalian agresiuli usamarTloba 

iyo. 

_ zaza saraliZis mxardamWer 

aqciaze gamosvlamde protestis 

gancda ar gqonia? 

_ ki, rogor ar mqonia. magali- 

Tad, 2015 wels, roca fexburTis 

federaciis prezidentis arCevnebi 

iyo da, megobrebTan erTad 

Zalian bevri samarTaldarRveva 

gamovaaSkarave... sxva bevr axalgazrdul 

aqciaSic mimiRia monawileoba. 

Cemi arasamTavrobo organizaciac 

mqonda, Tumca partiuli 

ar vyofilvar... 

CemTvis prorusuli Zalebi 

yovelTvis miuRebeli iyo da axlac 

asea. sxvanairad arc SeiZleba 

_ sxva Tu araferi, soxumeli var 

da prorusuloba CemTvis wiTeli 

xazia! 

_ Tu moqalaqeobriv pozicias 

aqamdec aqtiurad afiqsirebdi, 

romelime partiis wevri ratom ar 

gaxdi da maincdamainc axla ratom 

gadawyvite, rom „kanonsa da samar- 

Tals” SeuerTde? 

_ saqarTvelo partiebis naklebobas 

ar ganicdis _ 300-ze meti 

partiaa, arsebobs personaluri 

damokidebuleba da aseve konkretuli 

ideologiuri xazi, romelic 

CemTvis miuRebelia. am SemTxveva- 

Si partiis lideris, Tako Carkvianis 

personam Zalian didi roli 

iTamaSa, rom es nabiji gadamedga 

giorgi cobexia: 

`qveynidan 

wasvlas 

vapirebdi, 

magram partia 

`kanoni da 

samarTali~ 

CemTvis bolo 

imedia!~ 

da partiis wevri gavmxdariyavi. am 

ojaxs mTeli saqarTvelo icnobs 

da zustad vici, qalbatoni TakosTvis 

qveynis deokupacia umniSvnelovanesia. 

amas garda, Tako Carkvianis 

ganuxreli evropuli kursisac 

mjera. 

saerTod, sami sakiTxia, rac minda, 

rom Cvenma qveyanam rogorme 

gadalaxos. 

_ es ra sakiTxebia? 

_ evropuli momavali, teritoriuli 

mTlianobis aRdgena da 

kanonis uzenaesoba. 

_ samive es sakiTxi realobad 

xelisuflebam unda aqcios. 

opozicia, am SemTxvevaSi, „kanoni 

da samarTali”, Tundac qveynis 

teritoriuli mTlianobis prob- 

lemas rogor moagvarebs? 

_ opozicia am sakiTxebs arCevnebis 

Semdeg xelisuflebaSi mosvliT 

SeZlebs. amasTan, Zlieri 

opozicia imis garantiaa, rom xelisuflebam 

mniSvnelovan sakiTxebze 

TviTneburi politika ar gaataros. 

bolo dros xelisufleba 

mosaxleobisTvis miuRebel da saxelmwifoebrivad 

araswor politikas 

xSirad atarebs. ai, Zlieri 

opozicia swored imisTvisaa aucilebeli, 

rom xelisuflebas amis 

neba da ufleba ar misces! 

_ weRan Tqvi, saqarTveloSi 

300-ze meti partiaao da am parti- 

ebidan iseTi erTic ar aris, rom 

opozicias ozicias Zlieri oponireba gauwios 

da axali politikuri gaer- 

Tianeba „kanoni da samarTalis” 

Seqmna amitom gaxda aucilebeli? 

_ Zlieri opoziciuri partiebi 

ki aris, magram sainteresoa, adami- 

`kanoni da samarTali~ korufciuli 

mentalitetis Sesaxeb sisxlis samarTlis 

kodeqsSi Sesabamisi cvlilebis SetaniT 

korufciuli mentalitetis kriminalizacias 

moaxdens. es cvlileba sisxlis samarTlis 

kodeqsSi kriminaluri mentalitetis Sesaxeb 

Setanili cvlilebis analogi iqneba~ 

anebs maTi gulwrfelobis ramdenad 

sjeraT. saerTod, politika 

xvalindeli keTildReobis mopovebisTvis 

brZolaa. 

_ es ra SuaSia? 

_ am keTildReobis mopovebas 

yvela Tavisi meTodiT cdilobs. es 

imas ar niSnavs, rom polemikis 

dros erTmaneTis mimarT antagonisturad 

ganvewyoT. 

_ antagonizmi, zogadad, dam- 

Rupvelia, magram ver vxvdebi, 

saubari saiTken migyavs. amitom 

isec CagekiTxebi, _ arsebul partiebs 

Zlier opoziciad ar miiC- 

nev da fiqrob, rom „kanoni da 

samarTali”, realurad, mesame 

Zala iqneba? 

_ ki batono, uamravi partiaa, 

magram SeiZleba, am partiebis gulwrfelobis 

ar davijeroT da Cav- 

TvaloT, rom isini xelisufleba- 

Si mxolod Zalauflebis xelSi 

Casagdebad modian da ara imitom, 

rom saxelmwifos marTla emsaxuron 

da am qveynisTvis kargi gaake- 

Ton! 

_ ratom ggonia, rom xalxi 

„kanonsa da samarTals” daujerebs, 

anu sakuTriv Sen rogor dam- 

arwmuneb, rom politikaSi piradi 

keTildReobisa da Zalauflebis 

xelSi Casagdebad ar moxvedi? 

_ pasuxs martivad gagcemT. 

_ ki batono, gismen. 

_ weRandeli Tqmisa ar iyos, 

Tako Carkvianis ojaxs yvela icnobs 

da mas rom sxva interesebi 

hqondes, am sxva interesebis dakmayofilebas 

SeZlebda. 

_ geTanxmebi, Tako Carkviansa 

da mis ojaxs sazogadoeba icnobs, 

magram Sen sruliad axali saxe 

xar da Sen Sesaxeb araferi vic- 

iT... 

_ ar mgonia, vinmem Cemze Tqvas, 

rom gulwrfeli ar var. sufTa 

warsuli maqvs _ iseT politikur 

bataliebSi CarTuli arasodes vyofilvar, 

romlis gamoc SesaZloa, 

vinmem ifiqros, rom politikur 

saqmianobas merkantiluri miznebisTvis 

viwyeb. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, Tavis droze, 

mixeil saakaSvilic politikaSi 

sufTa warsuliT movida, magram 

mis mimarT xalxis damokidebule- 

ba dRes araerTgvarovania. ase 

rom, sufTa warsuli, apriori, ga- 

rantia ar aris. 

_ gasagebia, rom mxolod suf- 

Ta warsuli sakmarisi ar aris. ise, 

maincdamainc saakaSvilis magali- 

Tis moyvana saWiro araa, roca arsebul 

xelisuflebaSic arian adamianebi, 

romlebsac xelisufleba- 

Si mosvlamde sufTa warsuli hqondaT. 

magaliTad, aravis egona, rom 

biZina ivaniSvilis mTavroba korufciiT 

dakavdeboda, radgan ivaniSvili 

miliarderia. imasac veravin 

warmoidgenda, rom is moxdeboda, 

rac dRes xdeba, magram mTeli 

gundi korufciaSia Cafluli. 

_ 2012 wels „qarTuli ocneb- 

is” mxardamWeri iyavi? 

_ diax, 2012 wels „qarTul ocnebas” 

miveci xma. metic, erT saidumlosac 

gavamxel: maSin savaldebulo 

samxedro samsaxurs gavdiodi. 

im dRes, roca e. w. cixis kadrebi 

gavrcelda, samxedro samsaxur- 

Si Cemi cvla ar iyo da megobrebTan 

erTad gldanis cixesTan wavedi. 

maxsovs, maSinve damirekes da 

miTxres, _ sagangebo viTareba cxaddeba, 

samxedro nawilis mobilizeba 

unda moxdes da nawilSi modio. 

_ mixvedi? 

_ ara... telefoni gavTiSe... zogadad, 

roca qveyanaSi rame Zalian 

cudi xdeba, Tu amaze reagireba ar 

gveqneba, es imas niSnavs, rom Cveni 

momavlisTvis Zalian cuds vakeT- 

26 N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w.

ebT! xom gaxsovT cnobili gamona- 

Tqvami, _ ebraelebis xocvis dros 

xmas ar viRebdi da axla Cemi jeri 

dadgao... anu SeiZleba, problema 

Sors iyos, magram masze saubari da 

protestis gamoTqma mainc unda 

daiwyo. 

_ geTanxmebi, magram, samwuxar- 

od, sazogadoebis nawili ase ar 

fiqrobs da 2018 wlis saprezidento 

arCevnebmac aCvena, roca viRa- 

cebma qveynis momavali xuT-xuT 

kilogram xaxvsa da kartofilze 

gacvales. 

_ zustad vici: amomrCevels 

xuTi kilogrami kartofilis gamo 

miTiTebebs arasodes mivcem. 

_ ratom? 

_ imitom, rom qveyanaSi siRatake 

da SimSilia. aqedan gamomdinare, 

xuTi kilogrami kartofili 

SesaZloa, viRacis SvilisTvis im 

dRes gadarCenis erTaderTi Sesa- 

Zlebloba iyo da amaze miTiTeba 

ar momwons. politikosebs erTi 

ram ar unda daaviwydeT: Zalian bevri 

maTgani xelisuflebaSi guSin 

iyo da viTareba mas Semdeg ar gamosworebula. 

mokled, problema 

is ki ar aris, moqalaqe xuTi kilogrami 

xaxvisa Tu kartofilis fasad 

konkretul pirovnebas rom 

aZlevs xmas, aramed, problema is 

gaxlavT, rom xuTi kilogrami 

kartofili adamianebis yoveldRiurobisTvis 

mniSvnelovania! 

_ giorgi, Sennairad bevri ax- 

algazrda fiqrobs? 

_ imedi maqvs. yovel SemTxveva- 

Si, Cem garSemo aseTi Zalian bevri 

adamiania, romelic Cvens gunds 

uerTdeba. regionebidanac bevri 

gvexmianeba da gvekiTxeba, _ regionul 

ofisebs rodis gaxsniT, 

brZola erTad rom daviwyoTo. CemTvis 

yvelaze sasixarulo swored 

es aris. 

sxvaTa Soris, isic Zalian mixaria, 

rom liderobis survils 

Zalian bevr axalgazrdaSi vxedav 

da Cvens partiaSi maT amis saSualeba, 

zustad vici, miecemaT! 

_ giorgi, 20 welze metia, JurnalistikaSi 

var da Sennairi idealisti 

araerTi minaxavs, romel- 

ic, adre Tu gvian, politikas 

gausvria. saerTod, arsebobs mo- 

sazreba, rom politika binZuria. 

ar geSinia, rom idealebze uaris 

Tqma Senc mogiwios? 

_ mtkicebas ar daviwyeb da ar 

vityvi, imdenad kargi var, rom Seu- 

Zlebelia, es moxdes-meTqi, magram 

zustad vici, rom politika bin- 

Zuri ar aris da es qarTuli politikis 

erT-erTi yvelaze cudi narativia! 

sxvaTa Soris, evropulma 

politikam es narativi daZlia. 

politika binZuri maSin aris, roca 

mas binZuri adamianebi akeTeben, 

Torem politikis arsi is gaxlavT, 

rom xvalindeli keTildReoba, 

dovlaTi da socialuri garantiebi 

Seqmnas! rogor SeiZleba, yvelaferi 

es binZuri iyos? binZuri 

im adamianebs Soris Widilia, romelTac 

mxolod erTi mizani aqvT 

_ ZalauflebaSi mosvla! aseT adamianebs, 

darwmunebuli var, erTmaneTTan 

urTierTobac binZuri 

aqvT! 

samyaros yovelTvis idealistebi 

aSeneben. 

_ rasakvirvelia, magram arc is 

dagaviwydes, rom idealistebis 

miznebs avantiuristebi borotad 

iyeneben! 

_ diax, magram es dausrulebeli 

ciklia: aRmavlobas yovelTvis 

dacema moyveba, dacemas ki _ aRmavloba! 

marTalia, dRes Cven dacemis 

periodSi varT, magram darwmunebuli 

var, xval aRmavloba aucileblad 

daiwyeba! 

_ giorgi, ramdeni wlis xar? 

_ 26-is. 

_ marTalia, saubris dasawyis- 

Si miTxari, rom erT-erT saxelm- 

wifo uwyebaSi muSaobdi da ad- 

vokatobis praqtikac gaqvs, magram 

imedia, ar gewyineba, Tu vityvi, 

rom gamoucdeli xar. 

_ diax, magram SemiZlia, ramdenime 

magaliTi gavixseno. 

_ axla, ar miTxra, daviT aR- 

maSenebeli 16 wlis iyo, roca 

taxtze avidao... 

_ ara, ara. oponentebis msgavsad, 

Cven arc daviT aRmaSenebels 

vedrebiT da arc _ Tamar mefes. 

_ visze mianiSneb? 

_ yvelas gvaxsovs, Tamar mefes 

vin vinc Seadara. 

_ me davakonkreteb: saarCevno 

kampaniis dros biZina ivaniSvilma 

salome zurabiSvilsa da Tamar 

mefes Soris paralelebi orjer 

gaavlo... 

_ aseTi Sedareba, ra Tqma unda, 

politikuri mkrexelobaa! 

rac Seexeba axalgazrdebis politikaSi 

mosvlas, am konteqstSi, 

pirvel rigSi, baltiis qveynebs 

gavixseneb, roca estoneTSi, latviasa 

da lietuvaSi mosuli xelisuflebebis 

Semadgenloba absoluturad 

axalgazrduli iyo. estoneTis 

35 wlis premiers gundSi 

26-27 wlis axalgazrdebi hyavda. 

baltiis samive qveyanam namdvilad 

evropuli saxelmwifo Seqmna. 

iciT, mZime politikuri gamocdilebis 

gareSe da sufTa xelebiT 

saqmis keTeba kargi ratom aris? 

_ ratom? 

_ imitom, rom sakuTari Zalau- 


flebis dacvaze orientirebuli 

naklebad xar da cdilob, Tavisufali 

azrovnebiTa da enTuziazmiT 

qveyanas bevri kargi gaukeTo! roca 

xelisuflebaSi axalgazrdebi 

modian, maTi mTavari mizani isaa, 

rom qveyanaSi cvlilebebi moxdes. 

vinme ityvis, rom studentebi, 

roca isini aqciebs marTaven, gulwrfelebi 

ar arian? sxva Tu araferi, 

1989 wlis 9 aprili gvaxsovs. 

_ diax, magram bevr students, 

romelic samoqalaqo aqtiurobiT 

gamoirCeva, politikaSi mosvlis 

ambicia ar aqvs. 

_ SeiZleba, magram imis gamo, 

rom politikaSi mosvlis ambicia 

aqvs, axalgazrdas cudi TvaliT 

unda vuyuroT? aseTi damokidebuleba 

sworad ar mimaCnia... 

_ giorgi, am qveyanaSi yvelaze 

Zalian ra gaRizianebs? 

_ Zalian maRizianebs, rom adamianebs 

sakuTari uflebebis sasamarTlo 

wesiT dacva, ratomRac, 

rcxveniaT! am mentalitetSi gardatexa 

ar moxda, rasac xelisuflebamac 

ar Seuwyo xeli da es mmarTveli 

gundis kidev erTi naklia. 

sxvaTa Soris, es mentaloba evrokavSirSi 

Sesasvlelad xels SegviSlis, 

sadac yvelam icis, rom Tu 

misi uflebebi irRveva, aucileblad 

unda ibrZolos, radgan uflebebisTvis 

brZola gamarjvebis 

erTaderTi gzaa! 

mokled, Cven gvinda, rom saqarTveloSi 

korufciuli da qurduli 

ki ara, moqalaqeobrivi mentaliteti 

damkvidrdes! Cveni xsna 

swored es aris! arsebobs aseTi 

gamoTqma: rogoric xalxia, xelisuflebac 

iseTiao da piriqiT, magram 

es gamoTqma ar miyvars, radgan 

mTavaria, moqalaqeobriv mentalitetSi 

gardatexa movaxdinoT 

da TiToeuli moqalaqe ityvis, batonebo, 

kanoni arsebobso da am 

kanonis farglebSi sakuTari uflebebis 

dacvas moiTxovs, xelisuflebas 

sxva gza ar darCeba da, adre 

Tu gvian, kanonis ise aRsruleba 

mouwevs, rom es samarTliani da 

uzenaesi iyos! 

_ kanonis uzenaesoba erTia, 

magram korufciuli mentaliteti 

rogor unda Seicvalos? 

_ es sabWouri mentaluri daRia... 

imis iluzia ar maqvs, rom 

skolebSi samoqalaqo ganaTlebas 

SevitanT da xval yvelaferi kargad 

iqneba, radgan Tundac Tqvens 

an Tqvenze ufros Taobas, samwuxarod, 

skolaSi veRar davabrunebT. 

`Tu xelisuflebis 

mxardamWeri ar xar, 

samsaxurs ver iSovi! 

_ korufciisken midrekileba 

swored Cemsa da Cemze ufros 

Taobas aqvs. ras gviSveliT? 

_ gamosavali kanonSia, anu ase- 

Ti mentalobis mqone adamianebze 

reagireba uSualod kanonma unda 

moaxdinos. sxvaTa Soris, kanoni 

yovelTvis sadamsjelo ar aris da 

mas prevenciis saxec aqvs. 

„kanoni da samarTali” korufciuli 

mentalitetis Sesaxeb 

sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsSi Sesabamisi 

cvlilebis SetaniT korufciuli 

mentalitetis kriminalizacias 

moaxdens. es cvlileba sisxlis 

samarTlis kodeqsSi kriminaluri 

mentalitetis Sesaxeb Setanili 

cvlilebis analogi iqneba. 

_ partia „kanoni da samarTali” 

adamianis korufciul men- 

talitets rogor daadgens? 

_ es teqnika, ra Tqma unda, SesamuSavebelia, 

magram igive kriminaluri 

mentalitetis SemTxvevaSi, 

adamiani an TviTon aRiarebs, an 

iseT moqmedebas axorcielebs, 

`monstri Zalovani uwyebebis dro 

unda dasruldes! amitom 

sagamoZiebo uwyeba prokuraturas 

unda gamoeyos da politikuri 

zegavlenisgan rom 

ganTavisufldes, calke uwyebad 

Camoyalibdes! 

amas garda, prokurori 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebis 

maRali wilobrivi monawileobiT 

unda airCes. metic: es Tanamdeboba 

SesaZloa, saerTod, opozicias 

daeTmos, radgan SemdgomSi 

SekiTxvebi ar gaCndes, ai, 

prokuratura adamianebis sisxlis 

samarTlebriv devnas politikuri 

niSniT axorcielebso~ 

romelic kriminaluri mentalitetis 

damadasturebelia. 

_ anu Tu korufciaSi mxilebul 

adamians mivesalme, SeiZle- 

ba, davisajo? 

_ ara. 

_ aba? 

_ korufcia aris qrTamis aReba, 

micema, qrTamis SeTavazeba da 

zegavleniT vaWroba, anu Tu adamians 

vetyvi, romelime ministris 

moadgiles vicnob da is Sens Svils 

samsaxurSi moawyobs-meTqi, es zegavleniT 

vaWrobaa, rac ukve kriminali 

da dasjadia. mokled, korufciuli 

mentalitetisTvis sasjelis 

vada unda gaizardos da aseve 

axali cnebac SemoviRoT, kerZod, 

SeiZleba, qrTami ar SesTavazoT, 

magram Tu gavlenian adamianTan mixvalT 

da sTxovT, rom raRac saqme 

gagikeToT, es ukve korufciuli 

mentaliteti iqneba da unda daisajoT. 

rac mTavaria, adamianebi pirdapir 

ar unda daviWiroT! monstri 

Zalovani uwyebebis dro unda dasruldes! 

amitom sagamoZiebo uwyeba 

prokuraturas unda gamoeyos 

da politikuri zegavlenisgan rom 

ganTavisufldes, calke uwyebad 

Camoyalibdes! 

amas garda, prokurori arasam- 

Tavrobo organizaciebis maRali 

wilobrivi monawileobiT unda 

airCes. metic: es Tanamdeboba Sesa- 

Zloa, saerTod, opozicias daeTmos, 

radgan SemdgomSi SekiTxvebi 

ar gaCndes, ai, prokuratura adamianebis 

sisxlis samarTlebriv devnas 

politikuri niSniT axorcielebso. 

_ giorgi, vidre saubars davasrulebT, 

erT kiTxvas kidev dagisvam: 

saSualeba rom mogeces, mixeil 

saakaSvilsa da biZina ivaniS- 

vils ras hkiTxav? 

_ biZina ivaniSvils martiv kiTxvas 

davusvam: ram aiZula, rom sakuTar 

samSobloSi ruseTis interesebis 

gamtarebeli iyos? 

_ imis damadasturebeli argu- 

mentebi gaqvs, rom ivaniSvili 

saqarTveloSi ruseTis intere- 

sebs atarebs? 

_ diax, saamisod bevri argumenti 

maqvs. 

_ konkretulad? 

_ yoveldRiuri mcocavi okupaciis 

fonze saqarTvelos xelisufleba, 

praqtikulad, arafers 

akeTebs. amas garda, prezidentma 

salome zurabiSvilmac mianiSna, 

rom putinTan Sesaxvedrad mzad 

aris. arada, saerTaSoriso samarTliT 

es Zalian didi problemaa, anu 

ar SeiZleba, rom Seni qveynis okupanti 

saxelmwifos liders Sexvde! 

aseT dros diplomatia sxva formebs 

mimarTavs, romelic bevrad 

ufro warmatebulia. 

mokled, CemTvis cxadi da naTelia, 

rom es adamiani sakuTar qveyanaSi 

prorusul politikas 

atarebs. amas isic adasturebs, rac 

ekonomikaSi xdeba _ biznesis rusuli 

stiliT marTva. 

sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime dRis 

win erTi adamiani Semxvda, romelic 

30 welze metia, ruseTSi cxovrobs 

da saqarTveloSi axla dabrunda. 

man miTxra, _ gansxvavebuli 

mxolod infrastruqturaa, Torem 

TiTqos isev ruseTSi varo. anu qveynis 

marTvis stili rusulia, gam- 

Wvirvaloba ar aris _ korufciis 

maRal dones Tavi rom davaneboT, 

saxelmwifo biujetis gamWvirvaloba 

dabalia, rac Zalian didi 

problema da rusuli stilia! 

_ SeiZleba, magram ivaniSvili 

ra SuaSia? _ mas romelime umaR- 

lesi saxelmwifo Tanamdeboba ar 

ukavia. 

_ ki batono, magram man sasamarTlo 

xelisufleba daiqvemdebara. 

Tu sasamarTlo ar aris, e. i., 

arc kanonis uzenaesobaa da Tu ar 

aris kanonis uzenaesoba, qveyanaSi 

procesebi sworad, kanonierad da 

samarTlebrivad gamarTulad ver 

wava. amis gamo gaizrdeba korufcia 

da kriminaluri mentaliteti. 

yvelafer amas ki ekonomikuri krizisi 

mohyveba da swored es xdeba 

ruseTSi! 

rac Seexeba imas, Tu ras vkiTxavdi 

saakaSvils, gulwrfelad mjera, 

rom am adamians dasawyisi brwyinvale 

hqonda, magram Warbi Zalis 

gamoyenebiTa da legitimuri Zalauflebis 

gadametebiT, praqtikulad, 

kontroli dakarga. ver amovxseni, 

risTvis dasWirda, rom ase- 

Ti mkveTri yofiliyo. yvelafer 

amas uaryofiTad vafaseb, magram 

isic calsaxaa, rom qarTuli saxelmwifos 

evropuli konturebi 

gamosaxa, rac dasafasebelia. 

_ ise, giorgi, ar gerCia, politikaSi 

mosvlis nacvlad am qvey- 

nidan wasuliyavi da dasavleTSi 

kariera gagekeTebina da uzrunve- 

li cxovreba mogewyo? 

_ gulwrfelad getyviT: sanam 

partiis _ „kanoni da samarTali” 

Seqmna daanonsdeboda, qveynidan 

wasvlis gadawyvetileba miRebuli 

mqonda. „kanoni da samarTali” Cem- 

Tvis bolo imedia, raTa yvelaferi 

ise Seicvalos, rom am qveynis datoveba 

aRaravis mouwios! sxvaTa 

Sors, Cemi Zma emigrantia. imitom 

ara, rom Cemi Zmaa, magram erT-erTi 

maRalkvalificiuri adamiania, visac 

ki vicnob, magram qveynidan wasvla 

Zalian martivi mizezis gamo 

mouwia _ Tu xelisuflebis mxardamWeri 

ar xar, samsaxurs ver iSovi! 

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`daverbovkebuli~ eqspertebi, rusuli 

agenturuli qseli damoukidebe- 


li saqarTvelos mouSuSebeli tki- 

vilia _ jer kidev qveynis pirveli 

prezidenti, cxonebuli zviad gamsaxurdia, yvelas, vinc mis gver- 

diT ar idga, kremlis agents eZaxda. is mosazrebac arsebobs, 

rom erovnuli xelisufleba zustad agenturam daRupa. 

agentebis Tema 21-e saukunis 

saqarTveloSic aqtualuria, miT 

umetes, rom dRes problema mxolod 

ucxo qveyanasTan, am SemTxvevaSi, 

ruseTTan kavSirze myofi 

pirebi ar arian. problemas isic 

warmoadgens, rom zogi adamiani, 

romelsac, met-naklebad, umwikvlo 

reputacia aqvs, xelisuflebaze 

muSaobs da mmarTveli gundis 

opoziciis winaaRmdeg intrigebs 

xlarTavs, anu Cveni saxelmwifo e. 

w. sagareo da saSinao agentebis tyveobaSia. 

SeiZleba, zogma ifiqros, 

rom ucxo qveynis interesebze momuSave 

saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi 

ufro saSiSebi arian, magram am saqmis 

specialistebi ganmartaven, 

rom is agenti aranakleb saSiSia, 

romelic xelisuflebasTan ZaliT 

Tu nebiT TanamSromlobs, radgan 

is, Tavisi moqmedebebiT, sazogadoebis 

demoralizacias uwyobs 

xels da qveynisTvis sasargeblo 

sakiTxebze mosaxleobis konsolidireba 

ver xdeba. 

adamiani, romelic specsamsaxurSi 

mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi 

muSaobda da interviuze konfidencialobis 

dacviT dagvTanxmda, 

Cvens gamocemasTan saubrisas ambobs, 

rom specsamsaxurebTan ise- 

Ti pirovnebebic TanamSromloben, 

romelTa azrsac sazogadoeba iTvaliswinebs. 

am konteqstSi „qronika+”-is 

respondenti eqspertebze 

akeTebs aqcents da mianiSnebs, rom 

eqspertebi ama Tu im Temaze xSirad 

uSiSroebis samsaxurebis davalebiT 

pedalireben. 

amas garda, „qronika+~-is respondenti, 

romelic sakuTari usafrTxoebidan 

gamomdinare vinaobas 

ar amxels, imasac eWvobs, rom 

dasavluri specsamsaxurebi saqarTveloze 

gavlenas TandaTan kargaven 

da qveyana rusul orbitaze 

inacvlebs. kiTxvaze, Tu ra aZlevs 

aseTi eWvis safuZvels, uSiSroebis 

gamocdili kadri gvpasuxobs, 

rom mmarTvelobis umaRles eSelonebSi 

araerTi iseTi adamiania, 

romelmac araTu rusuli specsamsaxuris 

skola daamTavra, aramed, 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi, kremlis 

faruli mokavSirec iyo da axlac, 

unda Tu ara, iZulebulia, Tavisi 

yofili patronis miTiTebebi da 

davaleba Seasrulos. 

_ zogs hgonia, rom specsamsaxurebi 

erTmaneTs specrazmebiT 

ebrZvis, magram ase ar aris. am 

brZolaSi nebismieri specsamsaxuri 

Tavis operatiul wyaroebsa 

da gavlenis agenturas aqtiurad 

iyenebs. „fsiqologiuri omisTvis” 

gavlenis agentura winaswar mzaddeba, 

raTa Semdeg, misi meSveobiT, 

mosaxleoba daamuSaon. 

_ am mxriv yvelaze mowyvladi 

ubnebi romelia? 

_ media, eklesia da e. w. saeqsperto 

wreebi. zogadad, „fsiqologiur 

omSi” specsamsaxuri yvela 

im, ase vTqvaT, iaraRs iyenebs, rac 

xalxis ganwyobasa da ama Tu im 

procesis Semzadebaze zegavlenas 

axdens. 

specsamsaxuri sazogadoebis 

ganwyobas winaswar swavlobs, Tu 

ram SeiZleba masze maqsimaluri 

zegavlena moaxdinos. Semdegi etapi 

mosaxleobis dezorientirebaa. 

_ dezorientireba ras emsax- 

ureba? 

_ dezorientirebuli xalxisTvis 

saTanado da sasurveli mimarTulebis 

micema Zalian advilia. 

am procesSi specsamsaxurebi saukuneebia, 

mxolod medias ki ara, 

eklesiasac iyeneben da es Cveulebrivi 

movlenaa. 

am kuTxiT politikuri partiebic 

mowyvladia, magram im SemTxvevaSi, 

Tu politikuri partiebi 

absoluturad diskreditebuli 

arian, anu Tu xalxs maT mimarT 

ndoba aRar aqvs, maSin specsamsaxuri 

saqmeSi arasamTavrobo segments 

rTavs. 

eqspertTa sazogadoeba ki swored 

arasamTavrobo segmentis Semadgeneli 

nawilia. eqspertebis gamoyenebiT 

da saTanado SefuTviT 

specsamsaxurebs mosaxleobaSi TavianTi 

mesijebis danergva ar uWirT! 

amitom Zalian mniSvnelovania 

vicodeT, am eqspertebs ra donis 

gavlenebi aqvT. 

gavixsenoT biZina ivaniSvilis 

gancxadebebi. 


_ ivaniSvilmac SesaniSnavad 

icoda da icis, rom sazogadoebaze 

saeqsperto jgufebs maqsimaluri 

zegavlena aqvs. eqsperti rom 

xar, garkveuli begraundi unda 

gqondes Tundac im profesiaSi, 

romlis eqspertobasac ibraleb 

Tu irqmev. 

_ ise, CvenTan yoveli meore 

eqspertia. 

_ diax, magram begraundi da 

Teoriuli Tu praqtikuli gamocdileba 

yvelas ar gaaCnia. 

_ mokled, amtkicebT, rom 

garkveuli eqspertebis ukan spec- 

samsaxurebi dganan? 

rogor axdens 

specsamsaxuri 

sazogadoebrivi 

azris formirebas 

da ra safrTxis 

winaSe dgas qveyana?! 

_ ra Tqma unda, asea da es Ti- 

Toeuli eqspertis Semosavlebidan 

Cans! 

_ e. i., specsamsaxurebi ama Tu 

im azris pedalirebaSi eqspertebs 

fuls uxdian? 

_ cxadia, uxdian! rom icodeT, 

specsamsaxurebi yofil profesionalebs 

arasodes an naklebad iyeneben, 

radgan ician, rom maTi mamoZravebeli 

Zala qveynis erTguleba 

da samsaxuria! Sesabamisad, darwmunebuli 

ar arian, rom profesionalebi 

specsamsaxurTa mesijebs 

ise SefuTaven, rogorc saWiroa. 

amitomaa „atkatkebi”, ruseTSi 

miwvevebi da a. S. aseT treningebze 

specialuri programebi muSavdeba 

da am eqspertebis arapirdapiri 

dafinansebis gzac swored es aris, 

anu pirdapir fuls ki ar aZleven, 

aramed SefuTul proeqts ufinanseben. 

adamiani, pirvel etapze SeiZleba, 

verc mixvdes, ra xdeba, magram 

roca mixvdeba, ukve gviania, radgan 

am dros ukve im marwuxebSia, 

rasac dainteresebis safuZvelze 

gadabireba hqvia. 

zogadad, gadabirebis sami safuZveli 

arsebobs: kompromatebi, 

fuladi daintereseba da iniciativa, 

anu „iniciativnikebi”, romlebic 

specsamsaxurTan TanamSromlobas 

sakuTari surviliT gamoTqvamen. 

_ specsamsaxurTan kavSirze 

myofi eqspertis mediiT „darask- 

rutkebas” Tavad specsamsaxuri 

uzrunvelyofs? 

_ diax... es politikuri elementia, 

romliTac iseTi sainformacio 

veli iblokeba, romlis farTo 

masebSi gaSvebac specsamsaxurebs 

mizanSeuwonlad miaCniaT. dRes ki 

masebze zemoqmedebis yvelaze kargi 

saSualeba swored televiziaa. 

_ Tqveni informaciiT, Cveu- 

lebrivi agenturis momzadebaze 

ufro bevri fuli ixarjeba Tu 

eqspertebis? 

_ bunebrivia, eqspertebis, radgan 

Cveulebrivi agenturis gamoyeneba, 

rogorc wesi, erTjeradad 

xdeba xolme. 

_ „erTjeradi gamoyeneba” ras 

niSnavs? 

_ konkretuli operaciis Catarebas. 

gavixsenoT, Tu rogoria eqspertis 

qrestomaTiuli ganmarteba: 

eqsperti mcodne adamiania, romelic 

konkretul sferoSi saWiro 

informacias flobs. aseve misi 

profesiuli codna da samsaxurebrivi 

kontaqtebi an hobi gansaxilvel 

sakiTxSi umaRlesi xarisxis 

`zogierTi e. w. prodasavluri orientaciis 

eqsperti Tavisi gamonaTqvamebiT prodasavlur 

interesebs safrTxis qveS ayenebs, anu isini 

erTi politikuri Zalisken ixrebian da ara - 

dasavleTisken. isini imas axorcieleben, rac 

prorusul ideologiur centrebSi igegmeba da 

es pirdapir dasavlur interesebs urtyams~ 

orientacias uzrunvelyofs. 

eqsperti saSualebas iZleva, 

arsebul problemas axleburad 

Sexedo, sabazo masalebi mogces da 

SenTvis ucnobi informaciis wyaroebze 

gagiyvanos. eqspertis Sefaseba 

saimedoobis maRali xarisxiT 

unda xasiaTdebodes. 

zogadad, eqspertul sazogadoebaSic 

arsebobs gradacia, anu 

zogi pirdapir Tu iribad sxva 

qveynebsa da iqidan wamosul finansebzea 

damokidebuli; zogs ki 

dafinanseba saerTod ar gaaCnia da 

es yvelaferi, ubralod, hobia. 

is eqspertebi, romelTac begraundi 

ar aqvT, arc wyaroebi 

hyavT da, Sesabamisad, mTlianad im 

masalaze arian damokidebulni, 

romelsac ucxoeTidan iReben, Semdeg 

mas fuTaven da ise asaReben, 

rogorc sakuTari Semoqmedebis 

produqts. 

es Zalian rTuli da saxelmwifo 

usafrTxoebisTvis umniSvnelovanesi 

Temaa. 

_ ki batono, magram saxelm- 

wifo vinmes eqspertobas xom ver 

aukrZalavs? 

_ ver aukrZalavs, magram Tuki 

konkretuli eqsperti, tradiciulad, 

tendenciur informaciebs 

avrcelebs, riTac sxva qveynis interesebze 

asxams wyals, saxelmwifos 

masze operatiuli meTvalyureobis 

SesaZlebloba unda 

hqondes. 

_ vTqvaT, specsamsaxurma gaa- 

rkvia, rom ama Tu im eqspertis 

Sefaseba Cveni qveynisTvis Zirga- 

momTxrelia. aseT dros ra unda 

gaakeTos? 

_ ra unda gaakeTos da yvelafer 

amas rame unda daupirispiros. 

_ konkretulad? 

_ gavixsenoT, rogor iyo es sabWoTa 

periodSi da rogoraa aSS- 

Si. 

_ rogoraa? 

_ aSS-Si yvela eqsperti iseT 

analitikur organizaciaSia gaer- 

Tianebuli, rogoric, magaliTad, 

CrdiloeT-atlantikuri sabWoa. 

aSS-Si aseve ruseTis kvleviTi instituti 

arsebobs, ruseTSi ki _ 

aSS-sa da kanadis instituti. 

_ CvenTan, magaliTad, evraziis 

instituti arsebobs. 

_ diax, magram sakiTxavia, vin 

afinansebs? 

roca sazogadoeba informaciul 

SimSilSia, am dros qveyanaSi, 

SeiZleba, anarqiuli procesebi 

daiwyos. amitom is Tema, romelzec 

vlaparakob, pirvel rigSi, Cveni 

specsamsaxurebis dainteresebis 

sagani unda iyos. 

_ anu Cvenma specsamsaxurebma 

TavianTi marTuli saeqsperto 

wreebi unda Seqmnan? 

_ ara. 

_ aba, ras ambobT? 

_ qveyanaSi Sesabamisi analitikuri 

centrebi unda arsebobdes, 

romelic saxelmwifo biujetidan 

dafinansdeba. aseT centrSi yvela 

is adamiani unda iyos Tavmoyrili, 

romelic ucxo qveynis interesebs 

Teoriul codnas daupirispirebs! 

saerTod, specsamsaxuri mecnierebaa, 

romelsac analitikuri 

azrovneba sWirdeba. specsamsaxuris 

akademiaSi analitikuri azrovneba 

ki ara is iswavleba, Tu rogor 

unda „daaverbovkon” adamiani. 

mokled, geopolitikur safrTxeebsa 

da riskebs swored ase- 

Ti centrebi unda gansazRvravdnen, 

Torem vinc fuls ixdis, mus- 

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àtkatebi~ da qilerebis skola 

ikasac is ukveTavs. saxelmwifom, 

pirvel rigSi, es unda gaacnobieros... 

_ dRes prorusuli ganwyobeb- 

is eqspertebis aqtiuroba ufro 

saSiSia Tu _ prodasavluris? 

_ CemTvis, rogorc saqarTvelos 

moqalaqisTvis, visTvisac 

mTavari interesi qveyanaa, orive 

ganwyobis eqsperti saSiSia! 

metic: zogierTi e. w. prodasavluri 

orientaciis eqsperti Tavisi 

gamonaTqvamebiT prodasavlur 

interesebs safrTxis qveS ayenebs, 

anu isini erTi politikuri Zalisken 

ixrebian da ara _ dasavleTisken. 

isini imas axorcieleben, 

rac prorusul ideologiur centrebSi 

igegmeba da es pirdapir 

dasavlur interesebs urtyams. 

mokled, saqarTveloSi dasavluri 

faseulobebis pedalireba 

arasworad xdeba, rasac uaryofi- 

Ti efeqti aqvs! es ki Zirgamom- 

Txreli saqmianobis Semadgeneli 

nawilia. 

_ specsamsaxuri „eqspertad” 

iseT adamians arCevs, romlis 

Sesaxebac sazogadoebam araferi 

icis? 

_ diax da Semdeg mas mediiT 

„araskrutkebs”. gadavxedoT, bolo 

sami-oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi ramdeni 

axali saxe gaCnda, romelic 24 

saaTi ekranze zis... 

_ amboben, rom calkeul 

eqspertebs garkveul Tanxas par- 

tiebic uxdian, rameTu maT 

konkretuli Temis pedalireba 

moaxdinon... 

_ arc uamisobaa. 

_ partiis mier eqspertis da- 

qiraveba Zviri jdeba? 

_ zusti Tanxa ar vici, magram 

politikur partias eqspertis daqiraveba 

imaze aranakleb Zviri ujdeba, 

vidre saarCevno kampania da 

piaria. 

_ eqsperti, romelic saxelm- 

wifo uwyebaSia dasaqmebuli, ama 

Tu im movlenis damoukidebel 

Semfaseblad gamodgeba? 

_ cxadia, ar gamodgeba. 

ramdenime wlis win, Tu gaxsovT, 

saqarTveloSi e. w. eqspertTa sab- 

Wo Seiqmna, sadac klasikuri arqivuli 

agenti ijda. 

_ vis gulisxmobT? 

_ axla mis saxelsa da gvars nu 

damasaxelebinebT, Tumca damerwmuneT, 

misi piradi saqme minaxavs da 

vici, rasac geubnebiT. 

sanam xelisufleba am adamians 

eqspertTa sabWoSi Seiyvanda, masze, 

wesiT, jer makomprometirebeli 

masalebi unda moeTxova da mere 

Seeyvana eqspertTa sabWoSi. 

Tu es gaakeTes, anu masalebi 

moiZies da is adamiani eqspertTa 

sabWoSi mainc daniSnes, maSin saqar- 

Tvelos xelisuflebidan viRac 

ruseTs xels uwyobda, rom pirveli 

klasis informacia pirvelwyarodan 

hqonoda! 

zogadad, yofili agentebis ma- 

Ral Tanamdebobaze daniSvna ar 

SeiZleba, radgan operatiuli mu- 

Sakis fsiqika sxvanairia, agentis ki 

_ sxvanairi. agenti miCveulia, rom 

informacia unda moipovos da sxvas 

miawodos! 

ise, kargi iqneba, Tu Cveni kontrdazverva 

prezidentis, dedaqalaqis 

sakrebulosa da Zalovani 

uwyebebis aparatiT dainteresdeba. 

moikiTxon, magaliTad, Tavdacvis 

saministros maRalCinosnebs 

ra saswavleblebi aqvT damTavrebuli. 

bolos da bolos, droa, lustraciis 

kanoni amoqmeddes da am 

xalxs, minimum, Tanamdebobebis 

dakaveba aekrZalos, magram imas, 

rasac vambob, xelisufleba „ori 

yuris” principiT udgeba da zomebs 

ar iRebs. Cveni SeiaraRebuli 

Zalebi TiTqmis 23 wels iTvlis da 

xom SeiZleboda, am xnis ganmavlobaSi 

erovnuli kadrebi gazrdiliyvnen 

da Tanamdebobaze isini daniSnuliyvnen 

da ara _ yofili sabWoTa 

oficrebi, Tan rigiT ki ara, 

gavlenian Tanamdebobebzea laparaki. 

brals aravis vdeb, magram roca 

adamians ganaTleba ruseTSi aqvs 

miRebuli, gavlenian Tanamdebobaze 

ratom unda iniSnebodes?! 

am xalxs nasamarTleobaze ratom 

ar amowmeben?! _ roca Zalovan 

uwyebaSi maRal Tanamdebobaze 

iniSnebi, nasamarTlevi ar unda 

iyo, radgan iurisprudenciaSi danaSaulis 

recidivis cneba arsebobs. 

sxvaTa Soris, roca adamians umaRles 

Tanamdebobaze niSnav, mis moralur 

pasuxismgeblobasac unda 

miaqcio yuradReba _ vTqvaT, avtosagzao 

SemTxvevisgan daculi 

aravin aris, magram roca saWesTan 

nasvami zixar da amis gamo adamiani 

Semogakvdeba, es moraluri pasuxismgeblobaa. 

kidev erT rames getyviT: Tavis 

droze, sasaflaoebis xelmZRvanelebi 

Zalian komprometirebuli 

pirovnebebi iyvnen da SesaZloa, ga- 

Cndes eWvi, rom sasaflaoebis xelmZRvanelebi 

raRac Sav saqmeebs faravdnen. 

arafers vamtkiceb, magram 

yvelaferi gamokvleuli unda iyos... 

ramdenime wlis winaT kontrdazvervas 

is sami adamiani kurirebda, 

romelTaganac erT-erTi ru- 

Sailos megobaria _ 2003 wlamde 

ruSailo saqarTveloSi rom Camodioda, 

pirvelad am adamians kiTxulobda, 

_ Cemi Zma rogor ariso. 

am sami pirovnebidan erT-erTi 

generali da, sxvaTa Soris, 90-ian 

wlebSi igor giorgaZis moadgile 

iyo. man, Tavis droze, moskovSi 

Cveni wyaro, artur davidovi, romelic 

„gerevezedan” (ruseTis amierkavkasiis 

jarebis sardloba) 

informacias gvawvdida, CauSva. mekavSire 

ki robert mirzoevi gaxldaT, 

romelic Tavdacvis saministros 

me-8 ganyofilebis Tanam- 

Sromeli iyo. is sakuTar saxlSi 

saeWvo viTarebaSi gardaicvala _ 

narwyevma daaxrCo. gardacvalebamde 

ramdenime wliT adre mirzoevi 

moskovSi imyofeboda, sadac sastikad 

scemes da, rogorc TviTon 

ambobda, Tavdamsxmelebma miaZaxes, 

_ Seni mokvla ar ubrZanebiaTo. 

saerTod, kadrebidan yvelaze 

kargad Cans, vin visi davalebis 

`vardebis 

revoluciis~ Semdeg 

yvela samsaxurSi 

amerikeli kuratori 

ijda, magram 

amerikelebma 

marTva, rogorc 

Cans, dakarges~ 

Semsrulebelia. Tu Cinovnikis warsuli 

sufTa ar aris, Zalian bevri 

kiTxvis niSani Cndeba, miT umetes, 

Tu es adamianebi kontrdazvervaSi 

muSaoben, romelic qveynis xerxemalia. 

arc am adamianis vinaobas davasaxeleb, 

magram, Tavis droze, 

kontrdazvervis erT-erTi xelmZRvaneli 

is iyo, visac sabWoTa 

kavSiris dros moskovSi, „viSka” 

aqvs damTavrebuli. davijero, 

evropelebsa d amerikelebs es SekiTxvebi 

ar uCndebaT? SeiZleba, 

uCndebaT, magram situacias srulad 

ver floben an mmarTveloba 

xelidan gauSves. 

sxvaTa Soris, „vardebis revoluciis” 

Semdeg yvela samsaxur- 

Si amerikeli kuratori ijda, magram 

amerikelebma marTva, rogorc 

Cans, dakarges. 

_ minda, kidev erT Temas Sevex- 

oT: am dReebSi patimari dekanozi, 

giorgi mamalaZe, cixeSi SeuZlod 

gaxda da saavadmyofoSi, rogorc 

cnobilia, dagvianebiT gadaiyvanes. 

es „gamocxadebul sikvdil- 

is qronikad” Sefasda, miT umetes, 

rom janmrTelobis mdgomareobis 

gauaresebamde dekanozma sapyrobilidan 

skandaluri werili ga- 

mogzavna. is, rom Cveni eklesia 

rusuli interesebis gamtarebel- 

Ta naklebobas ar uCivis, cnobil- 

ia. dekanozis Tavidan mocileba, 

SesaZloa, rusul scenarSi jde- 

bodes? 

_ iciT, ra xdeba? _ rusuli 

specsamsaxurebi aseT raRacebs ar 

eridebian, radgan TavianTi xalxis 

eTnofsiqologia kargad ician. 


_ mkvlelobam SeiZleba, 

qarTvelebi ar dagvTrgunos da 

piriqiT, brZolis survili, Jini 

gagviRvivos, magram rusebs mkvlelobaze 

aseTi pasuxi ar aqvT. 

gaxsovT, giorgi sanaias mkvlelobam 

xalxi rogor gaaerTiana 

da erT muStad Sekra? aseTi bevri 

magaliTis dasaxeleba SeiZleba. 

mokled, rus xalxSi Zlieri xelis 

moTxovna arsebobs. ar minda, vinmem 

homofobiasa da qsenofobiaSi 

CamiTvalos, magram am eTnosSi imperiuli 

zraxvebi saukuneebis ganmavlobaSia 

gamjdari da, Sesabamisad, 

misi demokratiuli transformacia 

erTbaSad SeuZlebelia. amis 

Sesaxeb amerikelebmac ician da 

evropelebmac. 

_ msmenia, rom specsamsaxureb- 

Si e. w. mkvlelobebis departamen- 

ti arsebobs. es simarTlea? 

_ qarTulSi ara, magram ruseTisa 

da, Tqven warmoidgineT, safrangeTisa 

da aSS-is specsamsaxureb- 

Si msgavsi samsaxuri, diax, arsebobs. 

rusebs „qilerebis skola” hqondaT, 

romelsac „balaSixas” 101-e 

skolas eZaxdnen. iq swored aseTi 

kategoriis xalxs amzadebdnen. 

_ e. i., is, vinc „balaSixas” skolas 

amTavrebda, mkvlelis „at- 

estats” iRebda? 

_ SeiZleba, asec iTqvas. 

_ aseT skolebSi mkvlelobis 

dagegmva iswavleba Tu uSualod 

mkvlelobis teqnika? 

_ yvelaferi _ mkvlelobis 

dagegmvidan dawyebuli, kvalis 

waSliT damTavrebuli. es profesionali 

qilerebis saswavlebelia! 

_ „balaSixas” skolaSi qarT- 

velebic swavlobdnen? 

_ diax, swavlobdnen. 

_ is qarTvelebi, romelTac 

„balaSixas”, anu qilerebis rusu- 

li skola aqvT damTavrebuli, 

dRes sazogadoebriv asparezze 

arian? 

_ diax, arian da es informacia, 

wesiT, qarTul kontrdazvervas 

unda hqondes. 

ar minda, ise gaigoT, rom „balaSixas” 

skola pirdapir mkvlelebis 

samWedloa. es specsamsaxuris 

Cveulebrivi skolaa, sadac yvelafers 

aswavlian, maT Soris, mkvlelobasa 

da teroristuli aqtis 

mowyobasac. 

_ mkvleloba da teraqti, ase 

vTqvaT, specsamsaxuruli davale- 

bebis kulminaciaa? 

_ ra Tqma unda... visac es skola 

aqvs damTavrebuli, pirdapir mkvlels 

ver vuwodeb, magram 

saqarTveloSi aris xalxis kategoria, 

romelsac „grusTan” Ria kontaqti 

hqonda. isini mxolod samoqalaqo 

seqtorSi ki ara, Zalovan 

struqturebSic arian! 

_ adamiani qilerad rom Camoayalibon, 

aucileblad krimi- 

naluri midrekileba unda hqo- 

ndes? 

_ specsamsaxurebi mkvlelebs 

bavSvobis asakidan arCeven. 

_ ris mixedviT? 

_ ZiriTadi aqcenti rTul 

ojaxebze keTdeba. aseve specsamsaxurebis 

TvalTaxedvis areSi is 

bavSvebic xvdebian, romlebic Zaladobriv 

garemoSi izrdebian... 

„grus” sxva mimarTulebac hqonda. 

_ romeli sxva mimarTuleba? 

_ saTanamSromlod inteleqtualebsac 

arCevda. 

_ anu mkvlelobebs es inteleq- 

tualebi gegmaven, ara? 

_ ase gamodis. 

_ arsebobs Tu ara qrestoma- 

Tiuli meTodi, romliTac mkvlelobebis 

dagegmvisas xelmZRv- 

aneloben? 

_ mkvlelobas mxolod erTi 

adamiani ver dagegmavs. mkvlelobas, 

operatiuli informaciis safuZvelze, 

specsamsaxuri gegmavs da 

am gegmas Sesabamisadac uzrunvelyofs. 

_ „Sesabamisi uzrunvelyofa” 

ras niSnavs? 

_ martivad rom giTxraT, aseTi 

aqtis saidumloebis dacvas. 

_ Tu mkvleli Cavardeba, aseT 

dros specsamsaxuri rogor iqce- 

va? 

_ aseT dros specsamsaxurma 

mkvleli SeiZleba, TviTonve moicilos. 

saerTod, „grus” iseTi sistema 

aqvs, davalebis gamcemis Cawyveta 

advilad SeiZleba. 

_ „Cawyveta” ra aris? 

_ davalebis mimcemi TamaSidan 

gamoiyvanon. 

_ es rogor xdeba? 

_ davalebis mimcemis mokvliT. 

_ qilers masTan, vis interes- 

Sic mkvleloba Sedis, uSualo 

Sexeba aqvs? 

_ ara. qilers kontaqti im jgufis, 

ase vTqvaT, ufrosTan aqvs, 

romlis davalebasac asrulebs. 

raRac rom igegmeba, e. w. damatebi- 

Ti variantebic iTvleba, Tumca 

amis Sesaxeb Semsrulebelma ar icis. 

damatebiTi variantebi, rogorc 

wesi, kvalis gaqrobisTvis aris 

saWiro. 

_ specsamsaxurebi im riskze 

midian, rom mkvleloba SemTx- 

veviT adamians „SeukveTon”? 

_ iSviaTad. SemTxveviTi adamiani 

mkvleli rom gaxdes, saamisod 

misi mudmivi operatiuli damuSavebaa 

saWiro. aseT dros ki riski 

didia. magaliTad, SeiZleba, gacemis 

faqti dadges... 

_ „operatiuli damuSavebis” 

mTavari koziri ra aris? 

_ fsiqologiuri meTodebi, 

mamxilebeli masalebi, Tumca am 

Temis CaRrmaveba ar minda... 

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araoficialuri monacemebiT 

dRes saqarTvelodan 1,5 milioni 

adamiani sazRvargareT aris gasuli. 

oficialuri statistikis dadgena 

imis gamo ver xerxdeba, rom 

emigrantTa ZiriTadi nawili, daaxloebiT 

80%, ucxo qveyanaSi aralegaluri 

statusiT imyofeba. maT 

Soris axalgazrdoba Warbobs. 

profesiiT mxolod 5,1% muSaobs, 

67,5% ki – fizikurad. umetes 

SemTxvevaSi, wasvlis mizezi materialuri 

siduxWirea. 

yvelaze xSirad qarTvelebs ruseTSi, 

italiaSi, saberZneTSi, espaneTSi, 

TurqeTSi, germaniasa da 

aSS-Si SexvdebiT. albaT, yvela 

dagveTanxmeba, rom isini am qveyneb- 

Si ara samogzaurod da RirsSesaniSnaobebis 

dasaTvaliereblad, 

aramed samuSaod Cadian. 

ase zrdian dedebi Svilebs skaipiT, 

ase tirian CvenSi mSoblebs 

telefoniT, ase uxdian qorwils 

da naTlobas SviliSvilebs da mxolod 

virtualuri urTierTobi- 

TRa gvaqvs ojaxebi. emigrantebi ki 

Sromoben, Sromoben da bolo 

TeTrs saxlSi gzavnian... dabruneba 

undaT, magram uRirT ki?! 

2016 wlis 27 maiss parlamentma 

miiRo „saqarTveloSi mosaxleobis 

daberebis sakiTxze saxelmwifo 

politikis koncefcia”. koncefcia 

eyrdnoba mosaxleobis 

„daberebis sakiTxis meinstrimingis 

gzamkvlevs”, romelic 2015 wels 

SemuSavda saqarTvelos mTavrobis 

TxovniT da gaeros evropis ekonomikuri 

komisiis teqnikuri daxmarebiT; 

daberebis sakiTxis Sesaxeb 

madridis 2002 wlis saerTa- 

Soriso samoqmedo gegmisa da misi 

ganxorcielebis regionuli strategiis 

principebis gaTvaliswinebiT. 

swored aRniSnul dokumentebSi 

mocemuli xedvis ganxorcielebis 

mizniT SemuSavda „saqarTveloSi 

mosaxleobis daberebis sakiTxebze 

saxelmwifo politikis 

koncefciis 2017-2018 wlebis erovnuli 

samoqmedo gegma”, romelic 

miznad isaxavda saxelmwifo 

politikasa da programebSi „aqtiuri 

daberebis” midgomebis aqtualizacias. 

am gegmiT sazRvargareT saqar- 

Tvelos diplomatiur warmomadgenlobebs/sakonsulo 

dawesebulebebs 

akisriaT samSobloSi dabrunebis 

msurveli emigrantebis informireba 

arsebuli saxelmwifo 

programebis Sesaxeb, maT Soris, 

profesiuli swavlebisa da dasaqmebis 

programebis Sesaxeb. 

saqarTveloSi dabrunebul migrantTa 

reintegraciis xelSewyoba 

saqarTvelos mTavrobis erTerTi 

prioritetuli mimarTulebaa 

da swored amitom, rogorc 

koncefciidan irkveoda, 2015 wels, 

pirvelad saqarTveloSi, dabrunebuli 

migrantebis reintegraciis 

mxardasaWerad saxelmwifo biujetSi 

gamoiyo 400 000 lari. 

reintegraciis programebis am 

mimarTulebiT ganxorcieleba or 

mniSvnelovan mizans emsaxureboda: 

upirveles yovlisa, es aris sam- 

SobloSi dabrunebuli moqalaqeebis 

Rirseuli reintegraciis procesis 

xelSewyoba. amasTan erTad, 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebis mier 

reintegraciis programebis ganxorcieleba 

xels Seuwyobs rogorc 

programis gamWvirvalobas, 

aseve reintegraciis sferoSi moRvawe 

arasamTavrobo seqtoris ga- 

maka mosiaSvili 

599 97 25 55 

emigracia politikuri, ekon- 

omikuri an piradi mizezebiT ucxo qveyanaSi mcire xniT an 

mudmivad sacxovreblad wasvlaa. politikuri mizezebiT emi- 

gracia, rogorc wesi, represiuli reJimis Tanmxlebi movlenaa, 

rodesac represiis SiSi an gabatonebuli reJimisTvis loia- 

lobis gamocxadebis aucilebloba moqalaqeebs aiZulebs, ucxo 

qveyanas Seafaron Tavi. 


Zlierebasa da ganviTarebas. 

aRniSnuli programiT gaTvaliswinebuli 

iyo samSobloSi dabrunebuli 

migrantebisTvis Semdegi 

servisebis miwodeba: 

socialuri proeqtebis dafinanseba, 

maTi droebiTi sacxovrebliT 

uzrunvelyofa, profesiuli 

swavleba, anazRaurebadi staJireba, 

samedicino momsaxurebisa da 

medikamentebis dafinanseba, iuridiuli 

daxmareba, sazogadoebrivi 

informirebulobis programebis 

dafinanseba. 

ramdenad ganxorcielda reintegraciis 

programa emigrantebisTvis 

saqarTveloSi, es mkiTxvelma 

Tavad gansazRvros... 

dRes ki „qronika+~ erT qarTvel 

emigrant qalze mogiTxrobT, 

romelic samSobloSi dabrunda. ra 

icoda qalbatonma qeTevanma, rom 

mas ilias sityvebi gaaxsendeboda: 

„rogor Seveyrebi me Cems samSoblos 

da rogor Semeyreba igi me?” 

qeTevan TevdoraZe: 

„davibade 1968 wels dedofliswyaros 

sofel samrekloSi da 

iqve gavizarde, davamTavre soflis 

skola, swavla gavagrZele q. 

astraxanis lunaCarskis saxelobis 

samedicino instituSi pediatriul 

fakultetze, 1995 wels davamTavre 

Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino 

universiteti”. 

misi daojaxeba uiRblo aRmoCnda, 

hyavs qaliSvili eva TevdoraZe. 

matroxela dedam gazarda Svili 

da cxovrebas ar SeuSinda. qeTevan 

TevdoraZem icis rusuli, inglisuri 

da Turquli enebi. 

12 wlis winaT gadawyvita, qveyana 

daetovebina. male stambolSi 

gaemgzavra: 

„stambolSi axali profesia 

aviTvise, Tavi davimkvidre interieris 

sferoSi _ dekoratiul ganaTebaSi. 

am kuTxiT bevri qveyana 

moviare, veswrebodi gamofenebs, 

vawarmoebdi Turquli produqciis 

(dekoratiuli WaRebi) gayidvas 

msoflios sxvadasxva qveyanaSi 10- 

12 wlis ganmavlobaSi”. 

mokled, 12-wliani dauzogavi 

Sromis Sedegad garkveuli danazogi 

daagrova da erTi wlis winaT 

saxlSi dabrunda, sadac 70 wlis 

deda da axalgazrda qaliSvili 

elodebodnen. 

qeTevans Tergi ar daulevia, 

rom Tergdaleuli yofiliyo, arc 

sulxan-sabasaviT mouvlia evropa 

qveynis gadasarCenad, magram saqarTvelos 

samxreT-aRmosavleTis 

yvelaze cxel municipalitetSi 

Camovida. biznesis dasawyebad.: 

_ survili gamiCnda, dedofliswyaroSi 

Cemi danazogiT Tanamedrove, 

feSenebeluri kaferestorani 

saxelad DONNA (italiurad 

qalbatons niSnavs) gamexsna. 

mindoda, Cemi gancdebi da emociebi 

gadmomeca momavali kafes 

interierSi da aseTi saxiT mimetana 

silamaze da siaxle Cemi TanamemamuleebisTvis, 

gansakuTrebiT, 

axalgazrdobisTvis. 

raionis centrSi yofili fosta-telegrafis 

Senoba Zalze perspeqtiuli 

iyo am saqmianobisTvis. 

saTanado rekonstruqciis Semdeg 

saqmianobisTvis Sesaferisi adgili 

gaxdeboda. mokled, CemTvis saintereso 

farTi aRmoCnda saaqcio 

sazogadoeba „silqnetis” mflobelobaSi. 

davukavSirdi winamZRvriSvilis 

`rogor 

Seveyrebi me 

Cems qveyanas 

da rogor 

Semeyreba 

igi me?..~ 

quCa #95-Si mdebare „silqnetis” 

saTavo ofisis qonebis marTvis 

departamentis TanamSromel zviad 

kiknaZes (19.04.2018). 

2018 19 marts TbilisSi, saTavo 

ofisSi Cavedi, sadac zviadma xelSekruleba 

gadmomca „silqnetis” 

mravalsarTuliani Senobis pirvel 

sarTulze, zed SlagbaumTan (qarTul 

realobaSi Slagbaumi Cveulebrivi 

ambavia, mxolod me ver 

mivxvdi, visgan an risgan imijnebian 

kompaniebi SlagbaumiT?! arsad 

minaxavs msgavsi TurqeTsa Tu arabTa 

saemiroebSi, bahreinsa Tu yatarSi, 

CineTSi... sadac namyofi var! 

arsad, arsad minaxavs msgavsi samarcxvino 

ram, rom mdidari kompaniebi 

ase samarcxvinod emijnebodnen 

da ase zizRiT uyurebdnen 

sakuTar xalxs! dubaiSi emiratebis 

moli, dubai marina moli, batuta 

moli da TurqeTis yvela moli 

SemoiareT, aba, Tu ipoviT Tundac 

erT Slagbaums. maTi administraciebi 

imitom arsebobs, rom xalx- 

Tan iTanamSromlos. 

Slagbaumi apriori aris Zalmomreobis, 

uTanasworobis, usamarTlobisa 

da Zlierisgan sustis 

daCagvris simbolo, es fenomeni, 

diaxac, warmatebiT muSaobs Cvens 

realobaSi, _ aki, Cemi istoriac 

zustad ase ganviTarda. 

_ „silqnets” ase uWirda, rom 

ofisSi ar migiRoT? mas SerCevi- 

Ti damokidebulebebi aqvs adami- 

anebTan? 

_ diax da me viyavi erT-erTi 

aseTi damokidebulebis msxverpli. 

mokled, zviadma erTwliani xelSekruleba 

gadmomca, razedac 

vTxove, grZelvadiani xelSekruleba 

daewera. man amixsna, rom „silqnets” 

ijariT gacemuli bevri 

uZravi qoneba hqonda da mxolod 

usiamovnebebi eqmneboda moijareebisgan, 

kerZod, sasamarTlo procesebis 

kaskadi gadauxdelobis 

gamo. aqedan gamomdinare, Tu kargi 

gadamxdeli viqnebodi, xelSekruleba 

avtomaturad gamigrZeldeboda. 

davijere, vende. ndobas 

mimyarebda prestiJuli, warmatebuli 

da didi kompania, Tavad „silqneti”, 

romelTan TanamSromlobac 

CemTvis daculobis garantia 

iyo. 30 wlis mitovebuli da miuxedavi 

Senoba raionSi, rasac ijariT 

viRebdi, SegrZnebas miqmnida, rom 

amdeni xnis usargeblo, gamousadegari 

farTi, romelsac suls STavberavdi, 

„silqnets” sargebelsac 

moutanda da Cemi xelSekrulebis 

gagrZelebas win araferi daudgeboda. 

imave dRes davbrundi dedofliswyaroSi 

da saqmes Sevudeqi. 

_ e. i. SeTanxmdiT. 

_ diax. me da Cemi qaliSvili 

daRamebamde vmuSaobdiT muxl- 

Cauxrelad. umZimesi samuSaoebis 

Catareba mogvixda: kedlebis ngreva, 

nangrevebis gatana, fasadis rekonstruqcia, 

mzid kedelze fanjris 

amoWra, 50 metri sakanalizacio 

arxis gaTxra, wyalmomaragebis 

sistemiT aRWurva, eleqtro kabelebiT 

daqselva, saJolobe sistemis 

gamocvla, mTeli farTis 

iatakis gadaWimva („stiaJka”), „balkebisa” 

da kolonebis Cayra saZirkvelSi 

da ver getyviT, kidev ramdeni 

ram. ra Tqma unda, zogjer, da 

Zalian aucilebel SemTxvevaSi, 

damxmare Zalasac viyenebdiT, magram 

keTebis simZime, ZiriTadad, 

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Cvens mxrebze nawildeboda. martidan 

ivlisamde kompaniam SeRavaTi 

gamikeTa, ivlisidan ki qiris gadaxda 

daviwye da xelmosawerad miReba-Cabarebis 

aqti gamomigzavna. 

_ Tu yofila SemTxveva, rom 

„silqnetis” saTavo ofisi Camo- 

suliyos an daeTvalierebinos 

rekonstruqcia? xom unda dain- 

teresebuliyvnen, ras akeTebdiT 

daqiravebul farTSi?! iqneb, ter- 

oristebi iyaviT an rame alqaidas 

dajgufebis TavSesafari gqon- 

daT? es xumrobiT, ra Tqma unda, 

magram, minimum, zedamxedveli 

vinme xom unda yofiliyo, rom im 

arafinansur aqtivs ar gaasxviseb- 

diT an ra vici, mravali kiTxva 

SeiZleba daisvas... 

_ mTeli Cveni urTierTobis 

ganmavlobaSi „silqnetis” arc er- 

Ti TanamSromeli arc erTxel ar 

Camosula dedofliswyaroSi da 

arasodes dainteresebula Cemi 

saqmianobiT. pirveli gadaxda _ 500 

lari _ agvistoSi ganvaxorciele. 

gadaxdis win zviads davureke da 

kidev vTxove, xelSekrulebisTvis 

gadaexeda da grZelvadianad Caenacvlebina, 

razedac miTxra, _ 10- 

wliani xelSekrulebac rom iyos, 

ver dagirRvev, Tu damWirdebao? 

mSvidad gaagrZele saqminoba, axlo 

momavalSi arafers vgegmavT da Tu 

gnebavT, kidev mogaqiravebT sxva 

farTso. daimedebulma gavagrZele 

saqmianoba da yovel Tve patiosnad 

vixdidi qiras (500 lari) da paralelur 

reJimSi remonts vagr- 

Zelebdi. 

oqtomberSi vTxove, xelSekruleba, 

romelic „silqnetsa” da Cem 

Soris (rogorc fizikur pirze) 

daido, Sps „borjRalze” gadmoetana, 

romlis direqtoric me gaxlavarT. 

mindoda, qira, rasac vixdidi, 

xarjebSi gametarebina. zviad 

kiknaZes reestrSi gatarebac mov- 

Txove, razec mipasuxa, rom 1-wlian 

xelSekrulebebs reestrSi ar atarebdnen. 

Cemi saaxloblo da keTilis 

msurvelebi meubnebodnen, rom did 

riskebze mivdiodi, daucveli viyavi, 

magram vgrZnobdi, sxva gamosavali 

ar mqonda, radgan ukan dasaxevi 

gza aRar iyo, ukve didi xarjebi 

mqonda gaRebuli, mxolod win 

wasvla mrCeboda gamosavlad, mec 

Cveulebriv ritmSi vagrZelebdi 

Cems saqmiaobas. vcdilobdi, rac 

SeiZleba, Cqara gamexsna obieqti. 

fizikur pirze dadebuli igive xelSekruleba 

„silqnetma” Sps „borjRaliT” 

Caminacvla da noemberSi 

xelmosawerad gamomigzavna. 

_ am periodSi, rogorc ambobT, 

mimdinareobs remonti, manamde am 

SenobaSi Tu arsebobda wylis an 

nebismieri komunaluri komunikaciebi? 

da visze iyo registrire- 

buli? 

_ Cemi moTxovnis safuZvelze 

„silqnetma” noembris bolosTvis 

Tanxmobebi gamomigzavna gazis, denisa 

da wylis Semoyvanis Taobaze. 

noembris bolosTvis molaparakebas 

vawarmoeb „silqnetTan”, kvlav 

zviad kiknaZesTan, damatebiTi 

farTis moqiravebis Sesaxeb, romelic 

saTavsod mWirdeboda da romelic 

ukve ijaraSi mqone farTis 

mezoblad mdebareobda. man Senobis 

naxazi gadmomigzavna, sadac 

unda momeniSna, damatebiT romel 

farTze iyo saubari. mec ganvumarte, 

rom yviTlad moniSnuli mqonda 

sargeblobaSi aRebuli farTi, 

xolo Savi StrixebiT _ axali rac 

msurda. noembris bolosTvis damatebiTi 

farTis moqiravebaze molaparakebas 

vawarmoebdiT da, imavdroulad, 

SemTxveviT vigeb, rom 

(dedofliswyaroSi „silqnetis” 

Telavis filialis TanamSromlebi 

movidnen. swored maTTan saubrisas 

Sevityve) Cem mier garemontebul 

farTSi „silqneti” serviscentris 

gadmotanas gegmavs. maSinve 

zviad kiknaZes davukavSirdi, romelmac 

damidastura, rom es simar- 

Tle iyo (vaiberSi momwera. mimowera, 

bunebrivia, Senaxuli maqvs). 

Tavzari dameca! uamravi eWvi 

gamiCnda, saTavo ofisSi Sexvedrac 

gvqonda, sadac bodiSi momixades 

da miTxres, rom xarjTaRricxva 

warmedgina. sasowarkveTili viTxovdi, 

iqneb, sxva gamosavali mogvenaxa, 

iqneb, moeyidaT an xangrZlivad 

moeqiravebinaT, magram maTi 

gadawyvetileba uryevi iyo. 5 dekembers 

oficialur werils vagzavni 

„silqnetis” qonebis marTvis 

departamentis direqtor naTia 

kavTiaSvilTan, romlisTvisac manamde 

arasodes mimimarTavs da vTxov, 

werilobiT Sematyobinos aRniSnuli 

faqti, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, 

dabneuli var da ukve aRar 

vici, gavagrZelo saqmianoba Tu 


àucileblad gavasaCivreb da davicav Cems 

uflebebs, aucileblad gavagebineb qveyanas, 

rogori bedi elodeba emigrants, martoxela 

dedas, roca samSobloSi brundeba da unda, 

rom sakuTari kapitali sadRac Cados... 

aucileblad vaswavli "silqnets", rogor unda 

moeqcnen rigiT mokvdavebs... me 12 weli 

emigranti viyvavi, 12 weli vfiqrobdi da 

vocnebobdi saxlSi dabrunebaze. 12 weli 

vnatrobdi, Cems SvilTan erTad damewyo 

biznesi... me Cems 12 wels aravis movatyuebineb, 

radgan samSobloSi dabrunebuli emigranti 

qali var da simarTlis ar meSinia!~ 

Sevwyvito? ra melis? bunebrivia, 

gaugebrobaSi var. pasuxad araferi 

gamomigzavnes. me ki qiris gadaxda 

Sevwyvite da, ra Tqma unda, saqmianobac 

SevaCere. auditic moviyvane, 

romelmac 50 000 laris xarj- 

TaRricxva moaxdina. 

ianvarSi naTia kavTiaSvils SevxvdiT, 

sadac SemomTavazes gazrdili 

qiris gadaxda _ 500 laris 

nacvlad 500 dolari (1325 lari) 

Tviurad, rasac, Turme, dedofliswyaroSi 

ixdidnen „silqnetjeoselis” 

ofisSi, romelic zaza 

TaralaSvilisgan hqondaT naqiravebi 

500 amerikul dolarad da 

Tu me maT am Tanxas Cavunacvlebdi, 

3-wlian saijaro xelSekrulebas 

damidebdnen, razedac uari ganvacxade, 

radgan „silqnetma” 8-Tviani 

urTierTobisas usindiso Tama- 

Sis xerxebi maCvena da rwmena damikarga, 

rom me Cemi saqmis mSvidad 

keTeba maTTan SemeZleba. amis mere 

„silqnetma” uxeSad da calmxrivad 

Semiwyvita xelSekruleba da arc 

xarjebis anazRaureba surs. 

rogorc aRvniSne, Cemi araerTi 

Txovnis miuxedavad, xelSekruleba 

reestrSi „silqnetma” ar gamitara 

da mizezad moiyvana, rom erTwlian 

xelSekrulebebs reestrSi 

ar atarebdnen, arada, „servisnetgrupisa” 

da „silqnetis” sajaro 

reestris amonaweri Camivarda xelSi 

da iq vnaxe, rom erTwliani xelSekrulebiT 

iyvnen. mivwere kidec 

kiknaZes vaiberSi, _ maSin ratom 

gautareT „servisnetgrups-meTqi”?! 

man mipasuxa kidevac. mokled, 

„silqnetma” 19 martamde icoda, 

rom dedofliswyaros fosta-telegrafis 

farTi male maTTvis gamosayenebeli 

iqneboda da Cemi xeliT 

moindoma „naris gleja”, aki kidevac 

SeTiTxna iseTi xelSekruleba, 

rom zustad am ganzraxvazea 

morgebuli, erTi gza ar damitova, 

rom Tavisuflad CamesunTqa 

haeri, sazizRar alyaSi momaqcia 

da wreze xafangebi damiwyo. minda, 

niRabi Camovxsna da xalxs „silqnetis” 

realuri saxe davanaxo. 

aucileblad gavasaCivreb da 

davicav Cems uflebebs, aucileblad 

gavagebineb qveyanas, rogori 

bedi elodeba emigrants, martoxela 

dedas, roca samSobloSi brundeba 

da unda, rom sakuTari kapitali 

sadRac Cados... aucileblad 

vaswavli „silqnets”, rogor unda 

moeqcnen rigiT mokvdavebs... me 12 

weli emigranti viyvavi, 12 weli 

vfiqrobdi da vocnebobdi saxlSi 

dabrunebaze. 12 weli vnatrobdi, 

Cems SvilTan erTad damewyo biznesi... 

me Cems 12 wels aravis movatyuebineb, 

radgan samSobloSi dabrunebuli 

emigranti qali var da 

simarTlis ar meSinia! 

„qronika+“ kompania „silqnetis” 

qonebis departamentis xe- 

lmZRvanels, sandro kaxniaSvils 

daukavSirda: 

_ Cveni kompaniac, piradad mec, 

vambobT imas, rasac vakeTebT. 

Zalian samwuxaroa, rom qalbatonma 

aseTi gza airCia. gasul wels 

„silqnetsa” da mag qalbatons 

Soris qiravnobis 1-wliani xelSekruleba 

daido, sadac SaviT 

TerTze weria, rom mis mier, anu 

damqiraveblis gaweul danaxarjebs 

kompania ar aanazRaurebda, 

anu Tu rames gaakeTebda, es misi 

gadawyvetileba iqneboda. gadis 

dro da am qalbatons davalianeba 

aqvs, kapiki ar gadauxdia. erT mSvenier 

dResac ofisSi modis da 

gveubneba, rom me 50 000 lari davxarje 

da aminazRaureTo. xelSekrulebiT 

anazRarureba ar gvevaleba, 

magram xelSekrulebis iqiT 

xom arsebobs moralic. vuTaxri, _ 

am erTi wlis manZilze Tu iq ise- 

Ti rame gaakeTe, rac Cven isedac 

unda gagvekeTebina, magaliTad, kanalizacia, 

daviTvaloT da Tu es 

isedac Cemi xarji iqneboda, 

SevTanxmdeT-meTqi. sufTa qristianuli 

moralidan gamomdinare, 

rom raRacnairad ar dagvezianebina 

igi imis miuxedavad, rom xelSekruleba 

amas ar iTvaliswinebda. 

mere moxda is, rac moxda: Cemma megobarma 

raRac video maCvena, sadac 

ambobdnen, „silqnetis” TaRliTobaao 

Tu raRac... 

_ Tqven Tu iciT zviad kikna- 

Zisa da misi mimoweris Sesaxeb? 

_ zviad kiknaZe Cemi moadgilea. 

_ damqiravebeli ambobs, rom 

mas fasis momateba SesTavazes, anu 

qiris raodenobis gazrda. 

_ ara, sisulelea. mogexsenebaT, 

2018 wlis Semodgomaze „jeoseli” 

da „silqneti” gaerTianda. farTebis 

optimizaciis mizniT gegma 

gvqonda, rom „jeoselis” ofisebi 

Cvens ofisebSi gadmogvetana, raTa 

zedmeti Tanxebi aRar gvexada. es 

qalbatoni movida da SemogvTavaza, 

rom Tu xelSekrulebas gamigr- 

ZelebT, 500 amerikul dolars 

gadagixdiT, anu ra Tanxasac vuxdidiT 

dedofliswyaros „jeoselis” 

ofiss funqcionirebaSi. amaze 

arc Tanxmoba miTqvams da arc 

uari imitom, rom Cveni farTis ambavi 

SeiZleboda gadawyvetiliyo 

sxva kuTxiT. vuTxariT, _ davTvaloT 

da SevafasoT, ra xarjebi gawieT 

am daqiravebuli farTisTvismeTqi... 

mere es qali daikarga, axla 

TqvenTan movida da zviadma es 

momwera da is momwerao... wavides 

sasamarTloSi, meti raRa vuyo? 

_ qalbatoni ambobs: „ianvarSi 

SevxvdiT naTia kavTiaSvils, Sex- 

vedraze SemomTavazes gazrdili 

qiris gadaxda _ 500 laris nacvlad 

500 dolari (1325 lari) Tviurad, 

rasac Turme dedofliswyaroSi 

„silqnet-jeoselis” ofis- 

Si ixdidnen, romelic zaza Tara- 

laSvilisgan hqondaT naqiravebi 

500 amerikul dolarad da Tu me 

maT am Tanxas Cavunacvlebdi, 3- 

wlian saijaro xelSekrulebas 

damidebdnen, razec me uari gan- 

vacxade”. 

_ gatyuebT, gatyuebT! es kanonsawinaaRmdego 

ar aris, Tuki uars 

vetyodiT da xelSekrulebas gavuwyvetdiT. 

magram TviTon Semogv- 

Tavaza, rom oRond „jeoseli” sadac 

aris, iq iyvnen da is xalxi vinc 

iq muSaobs, Tqvens ofisSi ar gadmoiyvanoT 

da me gadavixdi imden 

qiras, Tqven is farTi isev iqirao- 

To (500 laris nacvlad 500 amerikul 

dolars). amis mere wavida, 

axla ambobs, rom Cven SevTavazeT 

viTom da asec rom iyos, ra moxda? 

magram ar gviTqvams da ra vqna, axla?! 

mag Sexvedras mec veswrebodi, 

roca es qalbatoni movida, deda- 

Svilia... dedofliswyaroSi raRac 

fulis dabandebas Tu apirebda, 

hkiTxa mainc vinmes, Tu 50 000 lars 

xarjavda?! 50 000 lari saerTod 

Rirs eg qoneba? rom eTqva, vinme 

xom etyoda, _ an Cade eg fuli, an 

ar Cadoo? an gagigrZeleb xelSekrulebas, 

an arao... magram SevediT 

adamianur mdgomareobaSi, atirebulebi 

movidnen, amdeni fuli CavdeTo 

da me adamianurad vuTxari, 

_ Tu amdeni CadeT, gavideT, daviTvaloT 

da iqneb, raRac miaxloebul 

cifrTan mivideT-meTqi. Tvi- 

Ton ambobs, kanalizacia Semoviyvaneo. 

Tu es iyo gasakeTebeli, magis 

saqmis kursSi ar var. mokled, 

raRac Sualedamde mividodiT, magram 

Zalian samwuxaroa. gadaeciT 

mag qalbatons, rom Tu ase unda, 

wavides Tavisi surviliT sasamarTloSi. 

P. S. faqti ki erTia: 

saqarTvelos mTavrobam, evrokavSiris 

daxmarebiT, emigrantTa 

sareintegracio programa ganaxorciela. 

proeqti, romlis gansaxorcielebladac 

ramdenime arasam- 

Tavrobo organizaciam moipova 

granti, maleve dasrulda, Tumca 

gairkva, rom bevrma arc ki icoda 

am programisa da emigrantebis mimarT 

xelisuflebis mxridan 

gamoCenili yuradRebis Sesaxeb. 

ras miyveba kerZod me, erT adamians, 

emigranti qalis istoria 

samSobloSi dabrunebis Semdeg?.. 

ase arsad mogeqcevian, albaT, rom 

farTi mogaqiravon, 50 000 laris 

investicia Cagadebinon da mere 

uceb xelSekruleba Segiwyviton. 

aseTi formiT morigebas, samarTlebrivad, 

kabaluri xelSekruleba 

hqvia. TavisTavad, kabaluri 

xelSekruleba monurs niSnavs, 

sadac xelSekrulebis erTi mxare 

meores imonebs. 

asea, roca emigrantebi qveyana- 

Si brundebian, ilismagvarad fiqroben: 

„rogor Seveyrebi me Cems 

qveyanas da rogor Semeyreba igi 

me?.. ras vetyvi me Cems qveyanas axals 

da ras metyvis igi me?” da Tu 

Sin jangamoclils bolo danazogs 

romelime kompania ise dagaxarjinebs, 

rom wamlis fulsac ar 

dagitovebs, aucileblad ikiTxav, 

_ Cemi samSoblo sad aris? 

rac yvelaze sainteresoa, „silqneti” 

ambobs, rom qeTevan TevdoraZes 

ijaris Tanxa ar gadauxdia, 

magram mas xelT gadaxdis 

qviTrebi aqvs, 

„qronika+“ aRniSnul Temaze 

muSaobas agrZelebs... 

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meoTxe welia, saqarTvelos gaerTianebuli wyalmomarageb- 

is kompaniis direqtori, Tamar fxoveliSvili, sasjels ixdis. 

am dromde aravis mouTxovia amave kompaniis direqtoris, 

arCil cabutaSvilis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxis dayeneba. 

fxoveliSvils aiZulebdnen, kompaniis 

Tanxebi „aWarabeTis” sxvadasxva 

iuzeris angariSebze gadaericxa. 

azartuli TamaSebi, Ziri- 

Tadad, formalurad imarTeboda 

da mogebuli Tanxebi kompaniis xelmZRvanelebis 

angariSebze ileqeboda. 

Tamar fxoveliSvilTan erTad 

dakavebulia misi meuRlec da maT 

oTx Svils xandazmuli bebia zrdis. 

Tamar fxoveliSvili e. w. kaxelebis 

kartelis morigi msxverplia. 

mis daxmarebaze bavSvobis 

megobarma zviad janyaraSvilmac 

uari Tqva, yofil buRalters 

uars eubnebian saproceso garigebazec 

da zaralis etapobriv anazRaurebazec. 

„qronika+~ qalTa #5 peniten- 

ciuri dawesebulebis patimris, 

Tamar fxoveliSvilis werils 

ucvlelad gTavazobT: 

minda, visargeblo SemTxveviT 

da madliereba gamovxato qalTa 

#5 penitenciuri dawesebulebis 

TiToeuli TanamSromlis mimarT, 

gansakuTrebiT ki direqtoris, q-n 

nestan veruliSvilisadmi, radgan 

swored misi udidesi wvliliTaa 

ganpirobebuli am sistemaSi Seqmnili 

Tbili, Tavaziani da adamianuri 

garemo. 

axla ki gadaval Cems mTavar 

saTqmelze, romliTac minda mivmarTo 

sruliad mmarTvel gunds: 

pativcemulo xelisuflebav, 

SegaxsnebT, rom mec _ msjavrdebuli 

Tamar fxoveliSvili _ var 

adamiani, Tumca oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi 

araerT Tqvengans mogwereT 

werili, magram mosmenisa da 

pasuxis Rirsi aravin gamxadeT. 

iqneb, aseTi sajaro momarTvis Semdeg 

mainc aRmoCndes TqvenSi vinme, 

vinc igrZnobs elementarul moralur 

pasuxismgeblobas da gamoiCens 

nebas, yuradRebiT gaecnos 

Cems sakiTxs. 

mokled vityvi, rom aTwlian 

sasjels ukve oTxi welia vixdiT 

me da Cemi meuRle Sps „saqarTvelos 

gaerTianebuli wyalmomaragebis” 

gaxmaurebul saqmeze. aRar 

SegawyenT Tavs imiT, Tu ra moxda, 

rogor moxda, ramdenad obieqturi 

gamoZieba Catarda, ra dar- 

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Rvevebi arsebobs, radgan Tu vinme 

dainteresdebiT, martivad gaecnobiT 

saqmis arss. swored am araobieqturobis 

Sesaxeb vwerdi oTxi 

wlis ganmavlobaSi, aseve mogmar- 

TavdiT sinanuliT, patiebis TxovniT, 

Tumca, samwuxarod, Tqvengan 

iyo sruli ignorireba. 

dRes CemTvis azri aRar aqvs 

sagamoZiebo darRvevebis garSemo 

saubars da brZolas, Cem mimarT 

wardgenili ori (182-e da 104-e) 

muxlidan mxolod 282-e muxliT 

wardgenil braldebaSi var damna- 

Save da amas pirvelive dRidan vaRiareb. 

sakmaod kargad mesmis danaSaulis 

simZime; is, rom kanoni uzenaesia; 

isic, rom korufciasTan 

brZola mniSvnelovania, magram 

arafriT ar mesmis, ratom var gamonaklisi 

da ratom visjebi kanonis 

sruli simkacriT oTxi Svilis 

deda maSin, roca kanonmdebloba- 

Si arsebobs saproceso garigeba 

da igi yvela kategoriis dana- 

Saulze moqmedebs. 

wlebia, ukve vixvewebi danaSaulis 

srulad (orive muxliT) aRiarebas, 

zaralis Tavdapirvel nawilobriv 

dafarvas da darCenilze 

gonivrul vadebsa da pirobebs 

(sasamarTlos wesiT), raTa igi 

srulad avanazRauro, magram amis 

keTili neba CemTan mimarTebiT arada 

ar gamoixata, miuxedavad imisa, 

rom saqmeSi figurirebda mesame 

braldebulic, romelsac pirvelive 

instanciis bolos gauformda 

saproceso, aRiarebis safuZvelze 

da zaralis dafarvis moTxovnis 

gareSe. 

iqneb, gamceT pasuxi, ratom 

aris Cem mimarT aseTi kategoriuli 

uari saproceso SeTanxmebaze? 

nuTu, arafers niSnavs oTxi Svili, 

maT Soris, ori arasrulwlovani 

(16 da 8 wlis), erTic mcirewlovani 

(6 wlis)? am bavSvebs hyavT 

erTaderTi patroni _ dedaCemi, 

romelic 67 wlis aris da janmrTelobis 

seriozuli problemebi 

aqvs, aseve 16 wlis bavSvs 10 

wlis asakSi amokveTili aqvs cali 

Tirkmeli da meoreze mudmivi kontroli 

esaWiroeba, aRarafers vambob 

8 da 6 wlis patarebze, romlebic 

ukve oTxi welia, mSoblebis 

dabrunebis molodiniT fsiqologiurad 

ganadgurebulebi 

arian. nuTu, es sakmarisi mizezi ar 

aris, gamoiTqvas neba saproceso 

SeTanxmebaze? nuTu, ar fiqrobT, 

Tu ras niSnavs sami arasrulwlovnis 

mSoblebis gareSe gazrda, ras 

ekidebiT, ra gindaT, maincdamainc 

tragediamde da ubedurebamde unda 

mivide? Cemi ojaxis ganadgureba 

zarals aanazRaurebs? korufciasTan 

brZola imas ar niSnavs, 

rom ekonomikur danaSaulze ojaxis 

gamwarebiT da daRupviT magebarem 

damxvriteT! 

oTxi Svilis 

patimari deda 

xelisuflebas 

mimarTavs 

werili cixidan 

binoT pasuxi. Tu ver warmogidgeniaT 

an ar gjeraT, rom Cemi ojaxi 

ganadgurebis pirasaa, mibrZandiT 

da sakuTari TvaliT naxeT, gansakuTrebiT 

bavSvebis mZime fsiqoemociuri 

mdgomareoba. 

xelisuflebas gaqvT slogani: 

„ara borotebas!” 

ar fiqrobT, rom Cem mimarT 

aseTi Seubralebeli da daundobeli 

ganwyoba borotebaa? vaRiareb, 

rom damnaSave var sakuTari Svilebis 

winaSec. mxolod me var damnaSave 

da Zneli gadmosacemia, Tu 

rogor mqenjnis sindisi, rogor 

mangrevs sinanulisa da sircxvilis 

grZnoba, Tumca Zalian gaugebaria 

CemTvis, ra SerCeviTobis 

principiT xdeba sruli simkacriT 

Cemi dasja. sxvebis gaTvaliswineba 

da SeRavaTebi Tu SesaZlebelia, 

maSin ra xdeba CemTan mimarTebiT? 

damxvriteT barem da damTavrdeba 

yvelaferi, aRarc Tqven SewuxdebiT 

Cemi Txovnis werilebiT 

da bavSvebic Seeguebian dedis sikvdils. 

ukeTesi iqneba, vidre tirilSi 

da gawamebul molodinSi gaataron 

wlebi. 

an zaralis anazRaurebis interesi 

ar arsebobs? vfiqrob, ara, 

radgan zaralis dafarvaze metad 

Cemi bolomde gawirvis interesi 

ufro aSkaraa. aba, sxva ra vifiqro, 

roca kompanias Tavdapirveli 

etapisTvis Cemi ojaxis SesaZleblobis 

maqsimums vTavazob, riTac 

zaralis 25% anazRaurdeba da 

danarCenze gonivrul vadebsa da 

pirobebze SeTanxmebas, Tumca 2015 

wlidan dRemde infrastruqturis 

sami Secvlili ministris, Sesabamisad, 

wyalmomaragebis kompaniis 

sami generaluri direqtorisa 

da sami sxvadasxva mTavari prokuroris 

pirobebSi amas ver mivaRwie. 

mogmarTavT xelisuflebas! 

gamoiCineT moraluri pasuxismgebloba 

da makmareT oTxwliani 

patimroba, darCenili wlebi SemicvaleT 

pirobiTi sasjeliT, kanonis 

uzenaesobis prioritetulobis 

paralelurad sami arasrulwlovnis 

mdgomareobis gaTvaliswinebac 

Tqveni valdebulebaa. 

kidev erTxel vimeoreb, ar 

gaqvT ufleba, ojaxuri tragediiT 

magebinoT pasuxi ekonomikur 

danaSaulze. aranairi materialuri 

zarali, raoden didic ar unda 

iyos igi, ar aris sami bavSvis udedod 

gazrdis sapirwone, miT 

umetes, rom Cemgan aris mzaoba dafarvis 

pirobebze SesaTanxmeblad. 

kvlav vaRiareb da uzomod vnanob 

Cadenils, Tumca damnaSaveebic 

adamianebi varT, _ miuxedavad Secdomebisa, 

miuxedavad patimris 

statusisa, var deda da saswrafod 

da aucileblad vWirdebi Cems 

Svilebs. 

vimedovneb, rom am werils xelisuflebidan 

gamouCndeba gulisxmieri 

da pasuxismgebliani mkiTxveli, 

iseTi, vinc miiCnevs, rom me 

da Cems Svilebs Svela gvWirdeba 

da kanonieri gziT am sakiTxs bolomde 

miiyvans. 

Tu fiqrobT, rom oTxi Svilis 

dedis sruli simkacriT dasja korufciasTan 

brZolis Sedevria, 

dae, esec cnobili iyos sazogadoebisTvis. 

P. S. damatebiT gigzavniT Cemi 

mxridan wyalmomaragebis kompa- 

niaSi Setanili werilisa da maTi 

pasuxis aslebs. 

zustad es werilebi amyarebs 

im mosazrebebs, rom Cem mimarT 

arsebobs erTaderTi da konkre- 

tuli mizani, _ Cemi da Cemi Svi- 

lebis moralurad ganadgureba, 

xolo zaralis dafarvis intere- 

si saerTod ar dgas kompaniis 

dRis wesrigSi. 

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`hekabe~ _ usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg da 

quTaisis mesxiSvilis Teatris axali sicocxle 

„hekabe” axalgazrda reJisor 


mixeil CarkvianisTvis, erTgvari, 

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gamocda da saxifaTo debiuti iyo 

did scenaze. misi es Tamami nabiji 

warmatebuli aRmoCnda da sazogadoebis didi interesic gam- 

oiwvia. xelovnebaTmcodne lela oCiauris SefasebiT „hekabe” 

dramaturgis, reJisorisa da msaxiobebis speqtaklia. misi 

TqmiT, es aris TanamoazreTa gundi, romlis wevrebsac kargad 

esmiT erTmaneTis. 

mixeil Carkviani, erekle gewa- 

Ze, inga kakiaSvili, endi ZiZava, sulxan 

gogolaSvili, daviT roiniSvili, 

Tengiz javaxaZe, gagi Sengelia, 

giorgi CaCaniZe, nanuka kupataZe, 

nini qarCava, nana cxviraS- 

vili, ani CogovaZe, daTa beraZe da 

luka svaniZe warmatebuli proeqtis 

Tanamonawileni arian. reASF- 

GHJisorma scenis sivrciTi gada- 

nawilebis axal sityvasTan erTad, 

mesxiSvilis Teatridan, mayurebels 

mkafiod Seaxsena, rom Zvel- 

berZnuli tragediebidan dRemde, 

Teatris daniSnuleba da funq- 

ciaa, ilaparakos Tanamedrove 

gamo 

mowvevebsa da problemebze, 

Temebze, rac sazogadoebas awuxebs. 

Teatri tribunaa da mayurebeli 

misgan simarTlisa da sa- 

marTlianobis mesijebs elodeba. 

„qronika+~ axalgazrda re- 

Jisor mixeil Carkvians esaubra, 

romelmac warmatebuli premieris 

Semdgomi emociebic gagviziara: 

_ mixeil, pirvel rigSi, gilo- 

cavT warmatebul debiuts did 

scenaze. mesxiSvilis Teatris da- 

sisa da Tqveni tandemi rogor 

Sedga? 

_ msaxiobebisgan SemoTavazeba 

miviRe, rom quTaisSi Cavsuliyavi 

da mesxiSvilis TeatrSi speqtakli 

damedga. daufiqreblad davTanxmdi, 

radgan quTaisi Cemi mSobliuri 

qalaqia, Sesabamisad, Tavidanve didi 

pasuxismgebloba gamiCnda. amavdroulad, 

es gamowveva sainteresoc 

iyo. bevri vifiqre, ra unda 

damedga da bolos gadavwyvite, 

evripides „hekabe” gamecocxlebina, 

radgan antikuri teqstebi CemTvis 

Zalian axlo da sayvareli 

literaturaa. mixaria, rom Cemi 

STabeWdileba quTaisis Teatris 

msaxiobebis Sesaxeb ar iyo mxolod 

bavSvobis aRfrTovaneba, SesaniSnavi 

gundi damxvda _ maTTan gatarebuli 

TiToeuli dRe saintereso 

iyo. 

_ evripides „hekabe” _ es piesa, 

rogorc Tavad ambobT, imitom 

airCieT, rom protesti gamogexataT 

im usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg, 

rac zaza saraliZis trage- 

dias ukavSirdeba. 

_ upirvelesad, evripide Tavisi 

„hekabeTi” usamarTlobasa da im 

problemebs asaxavs, rasac sauku- 

neebis manZilze vxedavT. es aris 

klasikuri samarTlis Zieba, simarTlis 

verpovna da Semdeg adamianebis 

ganadgureba. saqarTveloSi 

mSoblebs Svilebs uklaven da am 

saqmeebs ar iZieben. am SemTxvevaSi 

Cemi inspiracia iyo zaza saraliZe 

da misi epizodi winasaaxalwlod, 

roca imisTvis karvis daSlas apirebdnen, 

rom rusTavelze naZvis xe 

daedgaT. saxelmwifosTvis saaxalwlo 

dekoraciebi ufro mniSvnelovani 

aRmoCnda, vidre mama, romelic 

samarTals eZebs. msgavsi 

problemebi saukuneebis manZilze 

arsebobs da samwuxarod, ver movagvareT, 

ver SevdeqiT iseT sazogadoebad, 

roca realurad moviTxovT 

samarTals, gavasamarTlebT 

sistemas, mmarTvelobas, saxelmwifos 

da ara im msxverpls, romelic 

yvela gziT eZebs simarTles. 

swored es aris evripides Txroba 

antikuri samyarodan dRemde. bunebrivia, 

es arCevani ar iyo SemTxveviTi 

da zaza saraliZis tragediam 

Cemze Zalian didi gavlena moaxdina. 

stresuli da depresiuli iyo 

imis aRmoCena, rom saxelmwifom 

saaxalwlo dekori adamianebis sicocxles 

arCia. aRar mominda am 

qveyanaSi mecxovra da gadavwyvite, 

amaze mesaubra. 

_ piesaSi erT-erTi mTavari 

xazi aseve qalis uflebrivi mdgo- 

mareobaa, amis Sesaxeb ras gve- 

tyviT? 

_ evripides xSirad abraleben 

qalTmoZuleobas, Tumca evripide, 

sinamdvileSi, feministi avtoria. 

igi bevrs saubrobs qalTa uflebebze. 

maSin, rodesac Cven amden 

Zaladobas vxedavT Tanamedrove 

samyaroSi da amdenma saukunem, gamocdilebam, 

Secdomebma veraferi 

gvaswavla, evripides teqstebi swored 

amazea da erT-erTi mTavari 

xazic speqtaklSi es aris. Cven 

vsaubrobT usamarTlo situacia- 

Si myof qalebze, igive xdeba realur 

cxovrebaSic _ amden Zaladobas 

vxedavT, sazogadoeba da saxelmwifo 

ki araadekvaturia, xSirad 

moZaladis mimarT Semwynareblebi 

varT. 

_ mixeil, bevri aRniSnavs, rom 

dRes qarTuli Teatri realobas 

ar asaxavs... 

_ Cemze, rogorc reJisorze, 

qveyanaSi arsebuli problemebi imdenad 

mkveTrad moqmedebs da imdenad 

did STabeWdilebas axdens, 

rom CemTvis es erTgvari ukuqmedebaa 

qmedebaze. diax, kargi iqneba, 

Tu qarTuli Teatri Tanamedrove 

gamowvevebze isaubrebs. Teatri 

mkvdar, absurdul Temebs ar unda 

gvTavazobdes. me problemebze 

vlaparakob, radgan gaCumeba ar 

SemiZlia, garemo simSvidis saSualebas 

ar maZlevs... Sesabamisad, 

Cemi speqtaklebi xSirad socialuri 

da politikuri sarCulisaa. 

_ ras fiqrobT sapremiero Se- 

fasebebze? gamarTlda Tqveni 

molodini? 

_ jerjerobiT amaze msjeloba 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

adrea, es sapremiero Cvenebebia. 

Zalian sasixaruloa is interesi, 

rac speqtaklma gamoiwvia. Cemi mizanic 

es iyo. „hekabe” axla iwyebs 

mesxiSvilis Teatris scenaze cxovrebas 

da imedi maqvs, bevri mayurebelic 

eyoleba. is gamoxmaureba, 

rac am speqtakls mohyva, sazogadoebis 

sifxizles gvaCvenebs 

_ amiT igeb, rom xalxs problemebze 

saubari surs. quTaisSi Teatri 

gansakuTrebulad uyvarT da 

mayurebelic, Sesabamisad, Zalian 

momzadebuli modis. 

zusti da gemovnebiani, msaxio- 

bis energiisa da niWis amboxi _ 

mesxiSvilis Teatris istoriul 

did scenaze „hekabes” mTavari 

roli msaxiob inga kakiaSvilisTvis 

gansxvavebuli, umaR- 

lesi xarisxis Teatraluri 

saxea: 

_ qalbatono inga, mogviyeviT 

im emociebis Sesaxeb, 

rac warmatebul pre- 

mieras mohyva da rog- 

or afasebT axalgazrda 

reJisorTan Tan- 

amSromlobas? 

_ es iyo proeqti, 

romelic quTaisis meris, 

giorgi WiRvarias 

finansuri mxardaWeriT 

ganxorcielda. 

amis Semdeg dasSi 

survili gaCnda, axalgazrda 

reJisor 

miSa CarkvianTan gve- 

TanamSromla. yvelam 

viciT, rom is Zalian dakavebulia, 

Tavisi Teatri aqvs TbilisSi, gastrolic 

mravlad aris mis profesiul 

saqmianobaSi da roca masTan 

Sesaxvedrad TbilisSi CavediT, didi 

sixaruliT dagvTanxmda. mogexsenebaT, 

miSa quTaiselia da aRmoCnda 

rom, Zalian undoda mSobliur 

qalaqSi speqtaklis dadgma. 

roca piesaze midga saqme, Tqva, rom 

iqneb „hekabe” gagvekeTebinao. CemTvisac 

axlobeli aRmoCnda es Tema 

da, sazogadoebis umravlesobamac 

dadebiTad miiRo. es aris samarTlianobis 

deficiti. me maxsovs saraliZemde 

da saraliZis istoriis 

Semdegac, rac xdeboda. irina enuqiZe 

naTeli magaliTi iyo usamarTlobasTan 

brZolis, aseve buta 

robaqiZis saqme, maCalikaSvili da 

sxvebi... ukve imdenad mravlad aris 

Cvens realobaSi es problemebi, 

rolze muSaobisas CemSi emociebma 

Tavi moiyara. Zalian aqtualuri 

Tema iyo da gaxarebuli var, rom 

miSam swored es piesa aiRo samuSaod. 

_ hekabe, rogorc Zlieri qali, 

ramdenad aqtualuria Cvens real- 

obaSi? 

_ evripides es nawaromebi klasikaa, 

masSi mocemuli ambavi saukuneebs 

uZlebs. Tu Cems gmirze, hekabeze 

gavamaxvilebT yuradRebas, 

mis saTqmels getyviT: saukuneebis 

winaT da dResac qali daucvel da 

sust arsebad aRiqmeba. qalebi daucvelebi 

arian omSi da Cvens yoveldRiurobaSic. 

evripides xSirad 

aigiveben qalTmoZule avtorad, 

Tumca faqtia, rom mas yvela nawarmoebSi 

warmoCenili hyavs Tavian- 

Ti uflebebisTvis mebrZoli qalebi, 

isini aranakleb Zlierebi arian, 

vidre mamakacebi. ra xdeba dRes 

saqarTveloSi? ojaxis mTeli sim- 

Zime, pasuxismgebloba qalebs daawva, 

rasac mamakacebi, met-naklebad, 

gaurbian, moqalaqeobrivi Segneba 

maT gansakuTrebiT ganviTarebuli 

aqvT. Cemma personaJma „hekabem” Rirseuli 

Svilebi gazarda, man mar- 

Tvis sadaveebi im dros aiRo, roca 

qmrebi frontis xazze ibrZodnen 

da roca SurisZiebis dro dadga, 

hekabem es misiac Seasrula. 

_ albaT Zalian rTuli iyo am 

rolze muSaoba. 

_ sulierad da fizikuradac 

rTulad saTamaSo speqtaklia, es 

piesa Zalian bevr energetikas moi- 

Txovs msaxiobisgan. madlieri var 

im gamoxmaurebebis gamo, rac movismine 

da wavikiTxe. kmayofilebis 

grZnobac gamiCnda iqidan gamomdinare, 

rom reJisorisa 

da msaxiobebis erToblivi 

muSaobis Sedegi dainaxes. 

_ Teatrmcodneebis 

dadebiTi Sefasebebis 

Sesaxeb Tqveni mosazre- 

ba rom gagviziaroT. 

aSkarad uprecedentod 

bevri stumari special- 

urad Cavida quTaisSi 

sapremiero Cvenebaze... 

_ sasiamovno iyo, roca 

gavigeT, rom Teatrmcodneebi 

TavianTi 

xarjebiT Camovidnen da 

speqtaklis naxvis survili 

gauCndaT. evripides „hekabe” 

xom pirvelad daidga saqarTveloSi! 

es moxda quTaisis lado 

mesxiSvilis TeatrSi, meorec, miSa 

Carkviani moiazreba axalgazrda 

niWier reJisorad da mis Semoqmedebas 

Tvals adevneben. 

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danaSaulSi monawile eqimebi, 

Tamar rostiaSvili 

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TviTmkvlelobis mcdelobamde 

„qronika+”-isTvis gamogzavnili 

werili 

„axla ki droa, davarRvio dumili 

da detalurad minda gagacnoT 

yvela im dafarul faqtsa Tu 

dausjelad darCenil pirebTan 

dakavSirebuli informacia, rac 

daimala giga fartenaZis sisxlis 

samarTlis saqmeSi. detalurad aRvwer 

yvela im piris qmedebas, vinc 

uSualod monawileobda giga fartenaZis 

janmrTelobis ganzrax mZime 

dazianebaSi, rasac misi gardacvaleba 

moyva. visaubreb, danaSaulis 

Cadenis motivebze da gagacnobT 

giga fartenaZis gardacvalebis 

Semdgom ganviTarebul movlenebs. 

davasaxeleb im pirebs, romlebmac 

uSualod gaayalbes aRniSnuli 

sisxlis samarTlis saqme da 

maT, vinc xeli daafares damnaSave 

pirebs. mogaxsenebT, romeli maRali 

Tanamdebobis pirebi iyvnen 

CarTuli danaSaulis CadenaSi da 

ra dapirebebisa, Tu SeTanxmebebis 

sanacvlod CamrTes am procesSi. 

xuTi wlis Semdeg pirvelad mogecemaT 

SesaZlebloba, icodeT 

simarTle, gaakeToT zusti samar- 

Tlebrivi analizi mocemul sisxlis 

samarTlis saqmeze”. 

ase iwyeboda werili, romelic 

patimar SoTa SaniZis ojaxma gaze- 

Tis gamosvlamde xuTi dRiT adre 

gadmogvca. ori dRis Semdeg ki SaniZe 

sakuTar sakanSi, Tavis Camoxr- 

Cobis mizniT, polieTilenis parkze 

dakidebuli ipoves da komatozur 

mdgomareobaSi „ingoroyvas” 

klinikaSi gadaiyvanes. dRes SoTa 

SaniZe marTvad sunTqvaze imyofeba 

da aparatzea mierTebuli. misi 

werilis gamoqveynebis Semdeg ki 

„qronika+”-s kidev ufro skandaluri 

informacia Cauvarda xelT, 

rasac ucvlelad gTavazobT. pirvel 

rigSi ki momxdarTan dakavSirebiT 

SoTa SaniZis advokatis, giorgi 

goginavas komentars SemogTavazebT. 

giorgi goginava _ advokati: 

_ aRniSnul sisxlis samarTlis 

saqmeSi SoTa SaniZis interesebis 

dasacavad, daaxloebiT, sami Tvis 

win CaverTe saapelacio sasamarTloSi, 

rodesac saqme TiTqmis 

daskvniT etapze iyo. saqme uamravi 

darRveviT aris nawarmoebi, pirvel 

rigSi, gamoZiebis mxridan. 

_ darRvevebSi ras gulisxmobT 

da, pirvel rigSi, mainteresebs 

mizezebi _ Segnebulad dauSves 

saqmis SeferxebisTvis, Ziebis 

araswori msvlelobis micemisTvis 

Tu maRalCinosanTa da maTi pro- 

teJeebis vinaobis dasafarad? 

_ rogorc Cemi dacvis qveS myofi 

acxadebs, Zieba Tavidanve arasworad 

warimarTa da xarvezebic 

Segnebulad dauSves. man ukve detalurad 

ganmarta „qronika+”-is- 

Tvis gamogzavnil werilSi, ratom 

awarmoebda prokuratura msgavsi 

mimarTulebiT Ziebas, saxelebi da 

gvarebic daasaxela am da prokuraturis 

maRalCinosnebic amxila, 

romlebmac pirdapiri monawileoba 

miiRes aRniSnul sistemur dana- 

SaulSi. 

_ SaniZis mier dasaxelebeuli 

pirebi dResac moqmedi maRalCi- 

nosnebi arian prokuraturaSi? 

_ diax. SoTa SaniZe acxadebs, 

rom gamoyofili saqmea, sadac sagamoZiebo 

moqmedebebi srulad Catarda. 

anu giga fartenaZis saqmeSi 

man ramdenime sagamoZiebo qmedeba- 

Si miiRo monawileoba da am dros 

mopovebuli mtkicebulbebi misi 

gamamarTlebeli ganaCenis safuZvelia. 

magram es masalebi prokuraturam 

damala, rac sistemuri danaSaulis 

useriozulesi nawilia. 

_ batono giorgi, ras acxadebs 

SoTa SaniZe gasagebia da amas aqve- 

ynebs kidec srulad „qronika+”, 

magram am SemTxvevaSi Tqveni sa- 

marTlebrivi Sefaseba gvaintere- 

sebs. anu „SaniZem Tqva” ki ara, 

Tqven ras ambobT mis am skandal- 

ur mxilebebTan dakavSirebiT? 

_ me, rogorc iuristi, ver davarRvev 

ama Tu im piris udanaSaulobis 

prezumpcias da mxolod dadasturebul 

faqtobriv masalaze 

dayrdnobiT SemiZlia visaubro. 

rac Seexeba samarTlebriv Sefasebas, 

rogorc SoTa SaniZe ambobs, im 

„blef” anu giga fartenaZis saqme- 

Si, romelic saerTod ar Seesabameba 

sainamdviles, fartenaZis cemis 

Semdeg sakani ise daalages, rom 

gamomZiebels saSualeba ar mieca, 

SemTxvevis adgilis daTvaliereba 

momxdariyo da nivTmtkicebebi 

amoeRoT. sakanSi SemTxvevis dros 

Zalian bevri kanonsawinaaRmdego 

nivTi iyo. 

_ konkretulad Tqveni mo- 

sazreba rogoria am yvelaferTan 

dakavSirebiT? 

_ rac Seexeba Cems mosazrebas! 

roca saqme exeba cixis danaSauls, 

igi yovelTvis specifikuri gaxlavT, 

sadac usafrTxoebis normebi 

maqsimalurad unda iyos daculi. 

am dros msgavs danaSaulze, 

sul mcire, samsaxurebriv gulgrilobaze 

SeiZleba iyo saubari. es ki 

ar gamoricxavs, rom cixis administracia 

Segnebulad uSvebda da 

uSvebs kanondarRvevebs. Tavad gansajeT, 

mTeli oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi 

(ukve mexuTe daiwyo), administraciis 

TanamSromlebi ar gauTavisuflebiaT 

da arc pasuxisgeba- 

Si miuciaT, maRalCinosnebze rom 

aRaraferi vTqvaT. gamoZiebac ar 

aris maTze dawyebuli, rodesac 

ori mowme ambobs, rom uSualod 

Seeswrnen konkretul danaSauls, 

ikribebian cixis administraciis 

TanamSromlebi, ketaven danaSaulis 

monawileebs Tu Semswreebs sakanSi 

da avaleben, saswrafod daalagon 

sakani, awmindon sisxlis laqebi 

da sxva darRvevebi. 

_ es darRvevebia Tu useriozulesi 

danaSauli cixis administraciis 

mxridan? maT, faqtobri- 

vad, mkvlelobis kvali dafares! 

_ ra Tqma unda! gardacvlili 

giga fartenaZis fotosuraTebis 

daTvalierebiT, jer cxedari ar 

aris daregistrirebuli prozeqturaSi 

da eqspertebs ukve dawyebuli 

aqvT suraTebis gadaReba. Tavidanve 

arasworad Catarda eqspertiza 

da Cvens es masalebi sasamarTlos 

warvudgineT, rogorc axlad 

moZiebuli mtkicebulebebi. 

kidev uamravi darRveva devs aRniSnul 

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi 

da vimedovnebT, quTaisis saapelacio 

sasamarTlo mis daskvniT sityvas 

Seiswavlis. 22 Tebervals 

procesia CaniSnuli, magram Suamdgomlobas 

davayeneb, rom SaniZis 

gareSe sxdoma ar Catardes, vinaidan 

igi umZimes mdgomareobaSia. 

_ batono giorgi, mas mere, rac 

SoTa SaniZem „qronika+”-s werili 

gamougzavna, sadac yvela maRal- 

Cinosnis saxeli da gvari iyo 

dasaxelebuli, axelebuli, vinc sistemur danaSaulSi 

miiRo monawileba, Sani- 

Ze gaurkvevel viTarebaSi, saku- 

Tar sakanSi, Tavis CamoxrCobis 

„mcdelobiT” komatozur mdgomareobaSi 

gadahyavT saavadmyo- 

foSi... 

_ es informacia sasjelaRsrulebis 

saministromac gaavrcela, 

rac bevr kiTxvis niSans badebs. 

kerZod, Cemi dacvis qveS myofi 

paraskev dRes movinaxule, ganwyoba 

Zalian kargi da brZolisunariani 

hqonda, icoda, rom samSabaTs 

misi werili Tqvens gazeTSi gamoqveyndeboda, 

xolo orSabaTs misi 

xelmowerili korespondencia yvela 

saerTaSoriso organizaciaSi 

unda gagzavniliyo. CemTvis Zalian 

rTuli dasajerebelia, rom adamiani 

amis Semdeg msgavs qmedebas axorcielebdes. 

_ ras gulisxmobT, rom mas 

„miexmarnen” Tavis CamoxrCobaSi? 

_ paraskev saRamos, 21.38 saaTze, 

pacienti „ingoroyvas” klinikaSi 

komatozur mdgomareobaSi Seiyvanes. 

ojaxs amis Sesaxeb 14 saaTis 

Semdgom atyobineben. rac Seexeba 

àxla ki droa, 

davarRvio dumili~ 

sasjelaRsrulebis mier gavrcelebul 

informacias, igi an gamorCaT, 

an Segnebulad ar aRniSnes, 

rom SoTa SaniZe ar aris miyvanili 

mxolod TviTmkvlelobis mcdelobiT,. 

Seyvanisas iq pirdapir weria, 

rom pacients fsiqotropuli 

saSualebebis zedozireba aqvs. 

_ zedozireba anu Warbi raode- 

nobiT miReba? da saidan hqonda 

an sad inaxavda patimari sakanSi, 

sadac ori kamera ayenia, Warbi 

raodenobis fsiqotropul saSu- 

alebebs? 

_ amas, albaT, gamoZieba daadgens, 

magram Tavidanve ukve arasworad 

mimdinareobs igi. rac Cemi 

wyaroebiT maqvs dadgenili, am 

kuTxiT aranairi saxis sagamoZiebo 

qmedebebi ar Catarebula. magali- 

Tad, sisxlis nimuSis aReba intoqsikaciis 

dasadgenad, _ aranairi 

toqsikologiuri eqspertiza ar 

Catarebula. dRes gamoZiebis mxridanac 

moklebuli varT amis Sesa- 

Zleblobas, vinaidan toqsikuri 

narCenebi organizmSi sami dRis 

ganmavlobaSi rCeba. 48 saaTis Semdeg 

eqspertizis Catarebas am 

kuTxiT azri aRar aqvs. gamoZiebam 

unda amoiRos, ra fsiqotropuli 

saSualebebi hqonda daniSnuli 

SoTa SaniZes. rac Seexeba Tavad 

msjavrdebuls, bolo sami Tvis 

ganmavlobaSi, rac me misi advokati 

var, arc erTxel minaxavs raime 

preparatebis zemoqmedebis qveS. 

igi sistematurad varjiSobda da 

marilic ki iyida „girebisTvis”. 

dRis ganmavlobaSi, minimum, samjer 

varjiSobda. ase rom, Zalian bevri 

kiTxvis niSani Cndeba momxdarTan 

dakavSirebiT. mainteresebs, amoRebulia 

Tu ara kameris Canawerebi. 

„qronika+~-is mier moZiebuli 

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prokuraturam miTiTebul mowmeTa 

dakiTxvis oqmebi sasamarTloSi, 

rogorc mtkicebuleba da 

kidev ufro sainteresoa, imave 

sarTulze ganTavsebuli 40-ze 

meti saknidan, ratom SearCia gamo- 

Ziebam dasakiTxad mxolod zemoT 

aRniSnul saknebSi myofi msjavrdebulebi? 

vin icis, ra informacias 

flobdnen sxva patimrebi momxdar 

faqtTan dakavSirebiT? 

aucileblad unda visaubroT 

sasamarTloSi wardgenili sagamo- 

Ziebo nawilis ufrosi gamomZieblis, 

Teimuraz lomTaZis 2014 wlis 

10 martis #13/28-14813 mimarTvis 

werilze (gagzavnili sad-is #14 

dawesebulebis direqtoris moadgilis, 

besik maqacarias saxelze), 

sadac sxva dokumentebTan erTad 

moiTxova informacia, Tu rodis 

da vin gamoiZaxa saswrafo daxmarebis 

brigada? amave werilis safuZvelze 

besik maqacaria Sesabamis 

sapasuxo werilSi uTiTebs, rom 

2014 wlis #14 dawesebulebaSi 

2014 wlis 04 marts 02:35 saaTze 

eqimi gamoiZaxa dawesebulebis mTavarma 

eqimma giga reviSvilma. 

ufrosi gamomZiebeli Teimuraz 

lomTaZe 2014 wlis 10 martis #13/ 

28-14828 weriliT mimarTavs ss 

„Cemi ojaxis klinikis” saswrafo 

daxmarebis quTaisis filialis menejer 

qalbaton maia maisuraZes da 

iTxovs saswrafo daxmarebis gamoZaxebisa 

da gasvlis Taobaze Setyobinebis 

zust droebs, gamoZaxebuli 

brigadis Semadgenlobas. 2014 

wlis 11 marts amave klinikis samedicino 

menejeris. s. ZoweniZis weriliT 

dgindeba, rom 112-is mier 

2014 wlis 04 marts 02:28 saaTze 

Setyobineba gadmosces misamarTze: 

geguTis kolonia, giga fartenaZesTan, 

gamomZaxebeli reviSvili da 

gamoZaxebaze gasvla moxda 02:29 saaTze. 

xolo gamoZaxebis #170-e baraTze 

drod miTiTebulia 02:39 

saaTi. 

am monacemebze dayrdnobiT, 

saswrafo brigada gamoiZaxes 2014 

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wlis 04 marts 02:35 saaTze, xolo 

gamoZaxebaze saswrafo brigada 

gasula 06 (eqvsi) wuTiT adre, ker- 

Zod 02:29 saaTze. msgavsi faqti 

srul absurds warmoadgens da saqme 

gvaqvs gayalbebul informaciasTan. 

ratom gavamaxvileT yuradReba 

am konkretul faqtebze?! imitom, 

rom SoTa SaniZis e. w. TviTmkvlelobis 

(an „mkvlelobis”) mcdelobis 

dafarva, savaraudod, igive 

scenariT ganxorcieldeba. samedicino 

personali aravis Seucvlia 

da meTodebic igive aqvT. ase rom, 

ra da rogor iqneba, „qronika+” 

Tvals adevnebs da vecdebiT, gayalbebis 

saSualeba aravis mivceT. 

gamoZiebis versiiT, 322-e sakan- 

Si mkvlelobis faqts Seeswro 

xuTi msjavrdebuli. aqedan sami 

pasuxisgebaSia micemuli, erTi 

gardacvlilia (giga fartenaZe), 

xolo mexuTe _ g. k. _ gamoZiebam 

konkretulad gamoZiebis mimdinareobisas 

dakiTxa, magram mowme pir- 

Ta dasakiTx siaSi ar Seiyvana, anu 

igi sasamarTloSi ar daukiTxavT. 

ras malavs gamoZieba da ras See- 

Zlo gamoewvia SoTa SaniZis „TviTmkvlelobis” 

mcdeloba? 

SaniZis werilidan am skandalur 

monakveTs pirvelad vaqvey- 

nebT: 

„minda, mogaxsenoT is faqti, 

rom sasjelaRsrulebis #8 dawesebulebaSi 

giga fartenaZis saqmeze, 

Cemi interesebis damcvel advokatebTan 

erTad, molaparakebebs 

awarmoebda prokuraturis warmomadgeneli 

dimitri faRava, romelic 

xSirad axsenebda, rom prokuratura 

gigas saqmis realuri 

gamoZiebiT iyo dainteresebuli da 

sajaro moxeleebis mimarT sisxlis 

samarTlis saqme uflebamosilebis 

borotad gamoyenebisa da gulgrilobis 

faqtze calke warmoebad 

iyo gamoyofili. am motivze 

dayrdnobiT, igi ambobda, rom g. s.- 

sTan da l. m.-sTan faruli sagamo- 

Ziebo moqmedebebis Catareba iyo 

aucilebeli. kerZod, gldanis cixeSi 

unda momxdariyo maTi etapireba 

da CemTan sakanSi Semosaxleba. 

gamexsenebina 2014 wlis 03-04 marts 

#14 dawesebulebis #322-e sakan- 

Si momxdaris Sesaxeb, isini maqsimalurad 

unda CamerTo saubarSi 

da mecada, simarTle elaparakaT 

da am procesSi faruli audio-video 

Cawera ganxorcielebuliyo. 

sagamoZiebo organo aseve sakanSi 

mobilur telefons momcemda, romliTac 

SemdgomSi unda davkav- 

Sirebodi g. s.-s da l. m.-s ojaxis 

wevrebs, aseve g. k.-s (mag droisTvis 

ganTavisuflebuli iyo sapatimro 

sasjelis moxdisgan). amiT isini 

farul miyuradebas Caatarebdnen 

da maT saubars moismendnen. dimitri 

faRava miTiTebas maZlevda, 

rom zarebi aseve unda ganmexorcielebina 

Tavisuflebaze myof 

kriminalur avtoritetebTanac, 

romelTagan „saerToebze”, „obSiakebze” 

unda momepovebina informacia, 

radgan maT yvelaze metad 

ainteresebdaT, Tu vin da romeli 

sajaro moxele iyo gasvrili da 

vin iyo kavSirze kriminalur samyarosTan. 

dimitri faRava dampirda, 

rom am yvelafers mosamarTlis 

ganCinebis safuZvelze gaakeTebda. 

yvela zemoT xsenebul SemoTavazebaze 

Tanxmoba ganvucxade. 

garkveuli drois gasvlis Semdeg, 

sasjelaRsrulebis #8 dawesebulebis 

„e” korpusis #105-e sakan- 

Si momitanes ganCineba, mobiluri 

telefoni da igi Sesabamisi aparaturiT 

aRWurves. amis Semdeg l. m. 

da g. s. quTaisidan etapirebiT Camoiyvanes. 

prokuraturis davalebiT 

miTiTebul farul sagamoZiebo 

moqmedebaSi Cemi cixis megobari 

g. m. mexmareboda. faruli sagamo- 

Ziebo moqmedebis dawyebamde gamomZiebelma 

niko darCaSvilma gan- 

Cineba gagvacno, romelzedac orivem 

movawereT xeli. faruli 

sagamoZiebo moqmedebis mimdinareobisas 

(vgulisxmob audio-video 

Canawers) g. s. da l. m. detalurad 

yvebian da aRweren, Tu ra moxda 

2014 wlis 03-04 marts #14 dawesebulebis 

#322-e sakanSi, konfliqtSi 

monawile yvela pirsa da im 

sajaro moxeleebs asaxeleben, romlebmac 

realur damnaSaveebs uSualod 

daafares xeli, aseve im 

mayureblebi da maRalCinosnebi 

pirebs, romlebmac gamoZiebas cru 

da araswori informacia miawodes, 

SemdgomSi ki _ sasamarTlos (vgulisxmob 

Cvenebebs). sakanSi sagamo- 

Ziebo moqmedebebis Sesasruleblad 

mobiluri telefoni gvqonda, 

Tumca ara mxolod am saqmeze, sxva 

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeebzec. 

jamSi, sami telefoni (igulisxmeba 

sagamoZiebo moqmedeba faruli 

miyuradeba). l. m.-s da g. s.-s sakan- 

Si yofnis periodSi mxolod erTi 

telefoni gvqonda, danarCeni ori 

Sesabamisi miReba-Cabarebis aqtiT 

gamomZieblisTvis mqonda gadacemuli. 

g. s.-s da l. m.-s sakanSi telefonis 

arseboba ukvirdaT, magram 

me da g. m.-m davarwmuneT, rom 

gareT, situaciis dalagebis mizniT, 

administraciasTan ,,gaiasnebuli” 

gvqonda. g. s. da l. m. sakanSi 

mxolod erTi dRe iyvnen, Semdeg 

sad waiyvanes, CemTvis ucnobia. 

sagamoZiebo moqmedebebis mimdinareobisas 

(igulisxmeba sagamo- 

Ziebo moqmedeba faruli miyuradeba) 

gamomZiebels saknidan xSirad 

gavyavdi. saqmisTvis mniSvnelovani 

figurantebis telefonis nomrebs 

maZlevda da mimiTebda, vis unda 

davkavSirebodi mobiluri telefoniT. 

gamoZiebisTvis amis garkveva 

Zalian martivia, radgan im dros 

mobilurze g. k.-s davureke. man aRiara, 

rom quTaisis cixeze giga fartenaZis 

cemaSi monawileobis gamo 

gaseirnebis oTaxSi „pragulkaze” 

patimrebma scemes. arsebobs patimar 

d. d.-s satelefono saubris 

Canaweric, romelSic igi cixis mayureblebs 

asaxelebs. aseve arsebobs 

l. m.-s mamisa da Zmis satelefono 

saubris Canawerebi, m. v.-s 

dedis satelefono Canaweri da 

kidev sxva pirebis. 

am faqts prokuratura ver damalavs, 

radgan Catarebuli sagamo- 

Ziebo moqmedebebis Sedegad mopovebuli 

mtkicebulebebis gaqroba 

mouwevT, rogorc sasamarTlodan, 

aseve prokuraturidan da 

SesaZloa, sxva uwyebidanac, rasac, 

didi albaTobiT, ver ganaxorcieleben 

is sajaro moxeleebi (vgulisxmob 

imJamindeli mTavari prokuroris 

moadgileebs, giorgi gabitaSvilsa 

da mamuka vasaZes, romlebic 

zedamxedvelobas uwevdnen 

gamoZiebas) da ganaCenis miuxedavad, 

yvela piri wilobrivad agebs 

pasuxs. 

xazgasmiT minda aRvniSno, rom 

Cemi interesebis damcveli advokatebi: 

merab Ciqovani da ramaz Cin- 

CalaZe miTiTebuli sagamoZiebo 

moqmedebebis Sesaxeb saqmis kurs- 

Si iyvnen. ar vici ratom, magram maT 

ar mosTxoves prokuraturas, 

rogorc dacvis mxarisTvis, Catarebuli 

sagamoZiebo moqmedebebis 

Sedegad mopovebuli mtkicebulebebis 

gadacema. dRemde duman aRni- 

Snul sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, rac 

pirdapir miuTiTebs Cemi kanonieri 

interesebis sawinaaRmdego qmedebebisaken, 

rasac normaluri gamo- 

Ziebis Catarebis SemTxvevaSi aucileblad 

unda mieces swori samarTlebrivi 

Sefaseba. aseve maTi dapireba, 

rom saproceso SeTanxmebis 

gaformebis Taobaze prokuraturasTan 

molaparakebas warmatebiT 

daasrulebdnen, ver ganxorcielda. 

isini 100%-ian garantias 

maZlevdnen, rom gansakuTrebuli 

TanamSromlobisTvis prokuraturas 

CemTan saproceso SeTanxmebas 

aucileblad gaaformebinebdnen 

da mniSvneloba ar hqonda, pirveli 

instanciis sasamarTlo Cem mimarT 

gamamtyunebel ganaCens gamoitanda 

Tu ara, radgan saapelacio 

sasamarTloSi giga fartena- 

Zis saqmes yovelgvari Seferxebis 

gareSe damiprocesebdnen an prokuratura 

gaavrcelebda saqarTvelos 

sisxlis samarTlis saproceso 

kodeqsis 218-e muxliT gaTvaliswinebul 

pirobebs (braldebulis 

pasuxismgeblobisgan an sasjelisagan 

srulad ganTavisufleba da 

Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebulis 

sasjelis gadaxedva), magram 

dRemde arc erTi danapirebi ar 

Sesrulebula. 

isini meubnebodnen, rom pirvel 

instanciaSi prokuraturas saproceso 

SeTanxmebis gaformeba an sisxlis 

samarTlis saproceso kodeqsis 

218-e muxliT gaTvaliswinebuli 

pirobebis gavrceleba ar awyobda, 

radgan faqti axali momxdari 

iyo da dazaralebulebis ayvirebis 

eSinodaT, apelaciaSi aucileblad 

daalagebdnen dazaralebulTan 

Cems Temas. amiT dros igebdnen. 

xsenebuli advokatebi xSirad 

Semodiodnen cixeSi da maTgan mi- 

TiTebebs viRebdi, gamoZiebisa da 

sasamarTlo ganxilvis dros rogor 

unda movqceuliyavi. kerZod, 

ar unda meTqva simarTle da zog 

procesze arc ki unda gamovcxadebuliyavi, 

rasac vaxorcielebdi 

kidec, radgan isini ambobdnen, rom 

es iyo prokuraturis davaleba. 

droTa ganmavlobaSi maTdami ndoba 

davkarge da Cems saqmes Camova- 

Sore. 

rogorc aRvniSne, prokuraturas 

sajaro moxeleebis mimarT SesaZlo 

danaSaulis Cadenis faqtze, 

sisxlis samarTlis saqme calke 

warmoebad hqonda gamoyofili. 

gamomZiebelma niko darCaSvilma 

saubrisas aRniSna, rom gamoZiebam 

SemTxvevis adgili (vgulisxmob 

#322-e sakans) Tavidan daaTvaliera 

da iq arsebuli sxvadasxva 

sayofacxovrebo nivTi amoiRo, maT 

Soris, Wiqebi (romlidanac dnm-is 

nimuSebi aiRes). niko darCaSvili, 

misive ganmartebiT, mosamarTlis 

ganCinebis safuZvelze, n. n.-s, igive 

„buwaliCis”, g. a.-s, l. W.-s da imave 

sarTulze ganTavsebul saknebSi 

myofi sxva msjavrdebulebisTvis 

deenemis nimuSebis aRebas apirebda, 

ris safuZvelzec genetikur 

(biologiur) eqspertizas daniSnavda 

da nimuSebs giga fartenaZis 

saqmeSi arsebul im genetikur profilebs 

Seudarebda, romelic vis 

ekuTvnoda im droisTvis, dadgenili 

ar iyo. amis Semdeg yvela zemoxsenebul 

pirs Cvenebebs CamoarTmevdnen. 

CemTvis niko darCaSvilisgan 

cnobili gaxda, rom oficrebs _ 

balanCivaZesa da kapanaZes _ gamo- 

ZiebisTvis detaluri informacia 

hqondaT miwodebuli da maTi Cvenebebi 

giga fartenaZis saqmeze gamoZiebisa 

da sasamarTloSi micemuli 

Cvenebebisgan radikalurad gansxvavdeboda. 

maT cixis imJamindel 

ufros kaxaber bebiasgan nabrZanebi 

hqondaT giga fartenaZis saqme- 

Si erT-erT figurantad Cemi 

dasaxeleba. Cems SekiTxvaze, _ cixis 

or miTiTebul TanamSromels 

pasuxisgebaSi ratom ar aZlevdnen? 

gamomZiebeli darCaSvili mpasuxobda, 

rom gamoZiebasTan srulad 

TanamSromlobis motiviT prokuratura 

maT ganridebis gakeTebas 

upirebda, anu sisxlis samarTlebrivi 

pasuxismgeblobisgan srulad 

ganTavisuflebas. 

nikoloz darCaSvilisgan CemTvis 

cnobili gaxda, rom im farul 

sagamoZiebo moqmedebaSi, romel- 

Sic vmonawileobdiT me da g. m. (igulisxmeba 

g. s.-s da l. m.-s audio 

video-Cawera) Sesabamisi eqspertiza 

dasrulebuli iyo, saqme TiTqmis 

bolomde gamoZiebuli da daskvna, 

sisxlis samarTlis saqmesTan 

erTad, sagamoZiebo organoSi inaxeboda. 

sxva figurantebs, vgulisxmob, 

g. a-.s, n. n.-s, g. k.-s, m. v.-s da p. 

x.-s, gamoZieba maT pasuxisgebaSi 

micemasa da maTze sisxlis samarTlebrivi 

devnis dawyebas apirebda. 

minda aRvniSno, rom g. m. i. g.-sa da 

d. o.-is saqmeebis gaxsnaSi, sxvadasxva 

saxis sagamoZiebo moqmedebis 

ganxorcielebis mizniT, CemTan 

erTad monawileobda. gamomZieblis 

gadmocemiT, yvela pirze, maT 

Soris, dimitri darbaiselis, simon 

Ciqovanis, igive „simonikas” da kaxaber 

bebias mobiluri telefonis 

simbaraTebze sagamoZiebo moqmedebebi 

iyo Catarebuli. kerZod, adgilmdebareobis 

mixedviT Semavali 

da gamavali zarebis, aseve anZebis 

detaluri daSifvra, ris Sedegadac 

dadginda, rom im periodSi, 

rodesac giga fartenaZis saqmis 

msjavrdebulebi, alkoholur 

Trobaze Semowmebis mizniT, levan 

samxaraulis eqspertizis erovnul 

biuroSi viyaviT gadayvanili, gamomZiebel 

goCa Wabukianis telefonis 

nomerze kaxaber bebias mobiluridan 

dimitri darbaisels 

hqonda darekili. es informacia 

gamoyofil saqmeSi mowmis saxiT 

dakiTxulma goCa Wabukianma daadastura. 

2018 wlis 28 dekembers gancxadebiT 

mivmarTe saqarTvelos mTavar 

prokurors, detalurad mivawode 

zemoT aRniSnuli informacia, 

vTxove saqmis detaluri Seswavla 

da gancxadebaSi moyvanili 

faqtebis irgvliv saqarTvelos sisxlis 

samarTlis saproceso kodeqsis 

me-100 da 101-e muxlebis mo- 

TxovnaTa dacviT gamoZiebis dawyeba 

146-e, 150-e, 117-e, 332-e, 333-e, 

335-e, 342-e, 3421-e, 370-e da 372-e 

muxlebiT, rasac reagireba dRemde 

ar mohyolia”. 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

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mixeil basilaZe 

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix. 

„qronika+” (2018w.) ##3-27;29-39; 

(2019w.) #2-4. 

bolSevikuri ajanyebis Sedegebi 

da moskovis ultimatumi 

1919 wlis oqtombersa da noemberSi, 

bolSevikTa mier organizebuli 

SeiaraRebuli gamosvlebis 

Semdeg, saqarTvelos xelisuflebam, 

komunistebis asalagmad, gadamWreli 

zomebis miReba daiwyo. Sinagan 

saqmeTa ministrs ufleba 

mieca, daepatimrebina an gaeZevebina 

qveynis farglebs gareT nebismieri 

piri, romelic Tavisi moqmedebiT, 

sityviT an agitaciiT 

azianebda respublikis interesebs 

da qarTuli saxelmwifos dasustebas 

cdilobda. masve iseTi 

politikuri partiis akrZalvis 

ufleba mieniWa, romelic sazRvargareTidan 

imarTeboda. 

rogorc gazeT „saqarTvelos 

respublikis” 2 dekembris nomeri 

iuwyeba, CoxataurSi bolSevikuri 

amboxebis mowyobisTvis samxedro 

sagangebo sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT 

sikvdiliT dasajes 8 

komunisti. 30 noembers saxalxo 

gvardielebma TbilisSi kojris 

quCaze daapatimres bolSevikTa 

liderebi. maT Soris iyo qarTveli 

komunistebis xelmZRvaneli 

filipe maxaraZe. 

metexis cixe dapatimrebuli 

komunistebiT gaivso. Tumca leninis 

partiis momxreebi brZolas 

arc cixeSi wyvetdnen. rogorc 

gazeT „saqarTvelos respublikis” 

25 dekembris gamocemidan vigebT, 

cixeSi gamoketilma bolSevikebma 

qarTul xelisuflebas moTxovnebi 

wauyenes da sakuTari miznis misaRwevad 

SimSiloba gamoacxades. am 

saprotesto aqcias gazeTma sakmaod 

vrceli statia miuZRvna: 

„sxedan metexis cixeSi balSevikebi 

da TiTqos SimSiloben... namdvilad 

ki ara SimSiloben, aramed 

xmauroben balSevikebi, agitacias 

ewevian im wyobilebis winaaRmdeg, 

romlis dangreva maT iaraRiT ver 

SesZles. agitacias ewevian im mTavrobis 

winaaRmdeg, romelmac maT 

TavSesafrad metexi miuCina. 

ras moiTxoven batonni balSevikebi? 

balSevikebis moTxovna, ma- 

Ti SimSiloba, imdenaT aris CvenTvis 

sayuradReboT, ramdenaTac is, 

ase vTqvaT, politikur elements 

Seicavs... magram maTi moTxovna 

samxedro savele sasamarTloebis 

gauqmebisa, raRac komisiis Sedgena, 

romelSiac damfuZnebeli krebis 

warmomadgenlebi Sevlen, _ 

sul sxva xasiaTis xrikebia. im damfuZnebeli 

krebis warmomadgenlebs 

moiTxoven batonni balSevikebi, 

romlis gasarekaT cecxli 

da maxvili aamuSaves... kidev ras 

moiTxoven? saxalxo gvardiis gauqmebas 

xom ara?! rogor ara, saqarTvelos 

demokratiuli respublikis 

dangrevas moiTxoven... 

gareT darCenilebi furclebsa 

scemen, fulebs arigeben, xalxs 

mouwodeben, _ emzadebian. cixe ki 

maT gamoZaxils aZlevs!.. oTxi dRea 

vSimSilobTo, _ perangze Tu Sarvalze 

waaweres da kameris fanjridan 

quCaze gamofines... 

Cvenma demokratiam, Cvenma saxalxo 

gvardiam balSevikebi Tumca 

daamarcxa, magram yvela sangrebidan 

jer savsebiT gamorekili ar 

arian. jer kidev grZeldeba brZola 

am moRalateTa winaaRmdeg da 

zogierTebi SegnebulaT Tu 

SeugneblaT xels uwyoben maT axali 

frontis Sesaqmnelad!” 

bolSevikTa aseT aqtiurobas 

sul male moyva reaqcia moskovidan. 

1919 wlis dekemberSi saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebam bolSevikuri 

ruseTis oficialuri nota miiRo, 

romelic Tavxedur ultimatums 


Seicavda. komunistebi saqarTveloSi 

amboxebis braldebiT dakavebuli 

bolSevikebis ganTavisuflebas 

moiTxovdnen da sanam maTi piroba 

ar Sesruldeboda, sapasuxod 

ruseTSi saqarTvelos diplomatiur 

warmomadgenlebs apatimrebdnen. 

amasTan dakavSirebiT gazeTma 

„saqarTvelos respublikam” 20 dekembers 

ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa 

saxalxo komisris moadgile karaxanisgan 

miRebuli oficialuri nota 

gamoaqveyna: „Cveni cnobiT, 

mTel saqarTveloSi asobiT arian 

datusaRebuli komunistebi. sab- 

WoTa mTavrobis mier amis sapasuxoT 

Sepyrobili arian petrograd- 

Si, moskovSi da sxva adgilebSi yvela 

is piri, vinc sTvlis Tavis Tavs 

saqarTvelos misiis wevraT, anda 

konsulaT. Cven winadadebas ga- 

ZlevT, dauyovnebliv gaanTavisufloT 

komunistebi, SegvatyobinoT 

sia ganTavisuflebul komunistebisa 

da warudgineT amxanag 

cxakaias, dagvidasturos, Sesrulebul 

iqna Tu ara Cveni winadadeba. 

miviRebT Tu ara radios, rom 

Sesrulebuli aris Cveni winadadeba, 

mixa cxakaias dasturiT, ruseT- 

Si yvela SepyrobilT gavanTavisuflebT”. 

sxvanairad rom vTqvaT, bolSevikebi 

im pirebis ganTavisuflebas 

iTxovdnen, romlebic Riad upirispirdebodnen 

saqarTvelos damoukideblobas 

da respublikis winaaRmdeg 

iaraRiT xelSi gamodiodnen. 

yvelaze aRmaSfoTebeli ki is 

iyo, rom am ultimatumis Sesrulebisas 

saqarTvelos mTavrobis 

kontroli qarTvel bolSevik mixa 

cxakaias unda ganexorcielebina. 

cxakaias, romelic saerTod ar 

cnobda saqarTvelos mTavrobas, 

qveynis damoukideblobas da demokratiuli 

arCevnebis gziT arCeuli 

xelisuflebis damxobisken sajaro 

gancxadebebs akeTebda. 

am Tavxeduri depeSis sapasuxod 

saqarTvelos mTavrobis Tavmjdomare 

noe Jordaniam 9 dekembers 

sapasuxo depeSa gaagzavna, sadac 

aRSfoTebas gamoTqvamda qarTveli 

diplomatebis dapatimrebis 

gamo da maT dauyovnebliv gan- 

Tavisuflebas moiTxovda: „me 

miviRe cnoba radioTi saqarTvelos 

respublikis misiis wevrebisa 

da konsulebis dapatimrebis Sesaxeb 

sabWoTa ruseTSi, romelsac 

xels awers saxalxo komisari, sagareo 

saqmeTa moadgile karaxani. 

aseTi nabiji karaxanis gancxadebiT 

pasuxia komunistebis dapatimrebaze 

saqarTveloSi. saqarTveloSi 

komunistebis winaaRmdeg 

araviTar represiebs alagi aras 

hqonebia mxolod imitom, rom isini 

komunistur partiis wvrebi arian; 

amis damamtkicebelia is faqti, 

rom saqarTvelom TavSesafari misca 

5 aTasamde komunists, romlebic 

Tergis olqidan gamoiqcen, 

olqis moxaliseTa jarebis dakavebis 

dros; amaTgan isini, romlebmac 

ver moaxerxes samSobloSi wasvla, 

exla saqarTveloSi TavisuflaT 

scxovroben; ar vambobT imaze, rom 

mTavroba 8 Tvis ganmavlobaSi materialur 

daxmarebas uwevda komunistebs, 

romelic ramdenime 

milioniT ganisazRvreba. mTavrobis 

gankargulebiT dapatimrebul 

iqnen mxolod isini, vinc monawileobas 

iRebden SeiaraRebul gamosvlebSi 

da SeTqmulebebSi saqarTvelos 

damoukideblobisa da misi 

mTavrobis mTeli demokratiis 

ndobiT aRWurvilis winaaRmdeg. 

gamosvlebs Tan axlda mkvleloba 

da Zarcva gleja. sabWoTa 

mTavrobam daapatimra saqarTvelos 

respublikis oficialuri warmomadgenlebi, 

romlebsac aravi- 

Tari monawileoba ar miuRiaT sab- 

WoTa mTavrobis sawinaaRmdego 

istoriis 

samtro gamosvlebSi da amiT daar- 

Rvia saerTaSoriso uflebis elementaruli 

uflebebi. amis gamo, 

saqarTvelos respublikis mTavroba 

moiTxovs saqarTvelos misiis 

moxeleTa dauyovnebliv ganTavisuflebas. 

winaaRmdegi moqceva daamtkicebs 

mTeli qveynis demokratiis 

winaSe, rom sabWoTa mTavroba 

mtrulad ekideba qarTvel 

xalxs da uaryofs mis damoukidebel 

saxelmwifoT arsebobis uflebas. 

mTavrobis Tavmjdomare noe 

Jirdania. tfilisi, 9 dekemberi, 

1919 weli”. 

qarTveli diplomatebis dapatimrebasTan 

dakavSirebiT 17 dekembers 

moskovSi saprotesto 

nota ukve saqarTvelos sagareo 

saqmeTa ministrma evgeni gegeWkorma 

gaagzavna. ruseTis sagareo 

saqmeTa saxalxo komisar CiCerinisadmi 

gankuTvnil depeSaSi ewera, 

rom saqarTvelos sagareo misiis 

wevrTa SepyrobiT bolSevikurma 

mTavrobam saerTaSoriso samarTali 

daarRvia da daamtkica, rom komunistebi 

mtrulad arian ganwyobilni 

saqarTvelos mimarT. amis sapasuxod 

saqarTvelos respublika 

auqmebda sabWoTa ruseTSi yvela 

misias, saelCos da im organoebs, 

romlebic icavdnen saqarTvelos 

moqalaqeTa interesebs. amieridan, 

sabWoTa mTavrobis mier Sepyrobili 

misiis wevrebi da konsulebi 

kerZo pirebad iTvlebodnen, _ 

aRniSnuli iyo depeSaSi. 

saxalxo gvardiis dRe 

1919 wlis 12 dekembers saqar- 

Tvelo saxalxo gvardiis Seqmnidan 

erTi wlis iubiles zeimobda. am 

dResaswaulis samzadisis Sesaxeb 

gazeTi „saqarTvelos respublika” 

pirvel informacias 9 dekembers 

beWdavs. gaSlil masalaSi detalurad 

aris aRwerili sazeimo RonisZiebebis 

CamonaTvali da maTi 

gamarTvis adgili da Sinaarsi. 

rogorc am statiidan irkveva, qalaqis 

TviTmmarTvelobam saxalxo 

gvardiis dRis mosawyobad biujetidan 

5 aTasi maneTi gadado. 

saqarTvelos dedaqalaqi moirTveboda 

yvavilebiT, droSebiTa da 

feradi xaliCebiT. qalaqis Tavze 

ifrendnen haeroplanebi, saidanac 

1919 wlis 

moqalaqeebisTvis saagitacio furclebs 

Camoyridnen. dResaswaulis 

dawyebas Tbilisis mosaxleobas 

yvela ubanSi specialurad gamzadebuli 

mesayvireebi amcnobdnen, 

romlebic qalaqs avtomobilebiT 

Semoivlidnen. 

saxazino TeatrSi gaimarTeboda 

mitingi da warmodgena. aleqsandres 

baRSi moewyoboda sazogadoeba 

„Sevardenis” saCvenebeli gamosvla-varjiSi. 

yofili mefisnacvlis 

sasaxlis baRSi _ bavSvTa 

dResaswauli. muSaTa klubebSi 

dagegmili iyo sadResaswaulo speqtaklebi. 

qarTul klubebsa da saxelmwifo 

TeatrSi ki Sedgeboda 

fasiani grandiozuli programa. 

qarTul klubSive gaimarTeboda 

damfuZnebeli krebis wevrebisa da 

mTavrobis warmomadgenelTa sazeimo 

banketi. 

saRamo daeTmoboda seirnobebs, 

ferad iluminaciebs. mama daviTis 

mTidan gaisrodnen qvemexebs da 

foierverkebs. sazeimo RonisZiebebi 

dagegmili iyo mTeli saqarTvelos 

masStabiT. 

12 dekembers sazeimo RonisZiebebi 

mama daviTis mTidan qvemexis 

7 gasroliT daiwyo. dilis 11 

saaTze rusTavelis gamzirze TbilisSi 

arsebuli saxalxo gvardiis 

nawilebis aRlumi gaimarTa, romelSic 

saqarTvelos regularuli 

armiis nawilebic monawileobdnen. 

ukravda samxedro orkestri. aRlums 

ibarebda mTavrobis Tavmjdomare 

noe Jordania, gvardiis me- 

TaurebTan da mTavrobis wevrebTan 

erTad. 

mTavrobis sasaxlesTan gvardiis 

nawilebis Cavlis Semdeg jariskacebma 

orkestris TanxlebiT gaiares 

Tavisuflebis moedani, puSkinisa 

da voroncovis quCebi. mixailovis 

prospeqti muStaidis baRamde 

da Semdeg gaeSurnen dislokaciis 

adgilebisken. 

gazeTi „saqarTvelos respublika” 

12 dekembers saxalxo gvardiis 

dRes mTel gverds uTmobs, 

sadac sxvadasxva xasiaTis statiaa 

dabeWdili: „dRes saqarTvelos 

demokratia meoreT dResaswaulobs 

saxelovan saxalxo gvardiis 

dRes. dRes saqarTvelos mTeli 

mSromeli xalxi zeimobs Tavis gamarjvebas 

da brwyinvaled Sehyurebs 

momavals. saxalxo gvardia _ 

es Tavisuflebis gamarjvebis simboloa. 

saxalxo gvardia _ es revoluciis 

monapovarTa fxizeli 

darajia. saqarTvelos respublika 

_ es saxalxo gvardiis sisxliT da 

ofliT anaSenebia. saxalxo gvardia 

_ es revolucionerTa da gmir- 

Ta Taigulia, romelsac faqizaT 

da mowiwebiT epyroba yvela, visTvisac 

Zvirfasia saqarTvelos 

Tavisufleba, demokratiuli respublika. 

saxalxo gvardia „mSromelTa 

baRCaSi maSin ahyvavda, rodesac 

qveyanas patroni ar hyavda”. es is 

dro iyo, rodesac kavkasiis frontze 

balSevizmma moswamla rusis 

farajaSi gaxveuli glexebi da 

gaxrwnili fronti iSleboda im 

dros, rodesac frontidan dabrunebuli 

mtacebluri instinqtiT 

gaJRenTil jariskacebs surdaT 

tfilisis ganadgureba, maT win aRudga 

wiTeli gvardia da maT komunistur 

survilebs frTebi Seakveca. 

12 dekembers revoliuciis da 

Tavisuflebis ideis matarebelma 

Zalam _ wiTelma gvardiam sZlia _ 

gaimarjva. am dRes muSaTa Svilebma 

aiRes arsenali, sadac gamagrebulni 

iyvnen balSeviki jariskacebi. 

12 dekemberi, istoriuli dataa 

amierkavkasiis muSaTa cxovrebaSi. 

12 dekembers wiTelma gvardiam 

sastiki maxvili Casca gulSi pirdaRebul 

anarqias da mis mesveurebs 

amayaT gadasZaxa: ‘SesdeqiT! 

Sors Tqveni binZuri, sisxliani xelebi”. 

raT, raT ixsenebs saqarTvelos 

demokratia ase TbilaT, ase nazaT 

da aRsavse siyvaruliT wiTel 

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ucnobi qronika 

dekemberi 

gvardielebs? _ amaze pasuxs iZleva 

is Tavganwirva da umanko sisx- 

#1 sapyrobileSi sxva da sxva yaCdaT 

panaseviCis quCiT sagubernio 

li, romelic daiRvara ColoqSi, aRobis da Tavdasxmis gamo dapatimrebuli 

tusaRebi: levan kobax- 

baTumis midamoebSi, somxeTTan 

omis dros, cxinvalSi, axalcixe-axalqalaqSi 

da sxvagan... da Cven sax- 

da prokofi gurabaniZe. panaskeviiZe, 

samson siraZe, grigol saakovi 

alxo gvardiis ori wlis istoriis 

gaTvaliswinebiT SegviZlia sia- 

kuTxeSi orma ucnobma 

Cis quCis da amatunis Sesaxvevis 

borotmom- 

movnebiT da Tan siamayiT avRniSnoT, 

rom arc erT brZolaSi Cveni 

saxalxo gvardia ar damarcxebula!” 

kriminali 

rogorc wina Tveebi, 1919 wlis 

dekemberic kriminaluri SemTxvevebis 

siuxviT aRiniSneba. siRnaRis 

mazraSi mwyems TuSebs Tavs 

daesxnen TaTrebi, romlebmac mohkles 

ori mwyemsi da gaitaces 3 

aTasi cxvari. 7 dekembers belagoris 

komisariatis milicielebma 

alya Semoartyes saxls, sadac cnobili 

yaCaRi daviT maRraZe imaleboda. 

ormxrivi srolisas daiWra 

maRraZis coli, ris Semdegac yaCaRma 

iaraRi dayara da milicias 

Cabarda. 

9 dekembers azerbaijanidan 

gadmosulma yaCaRebma lagodexSi 

gaZarcves zaqaTalidan somxeTSi 

mimavali somexi ltolvilebi. mokles 

erTi ltolvili. Semdeg gaze- 

Ti gvamcnobs, rom yaCaRebis dakavebas 

lagodexis saxalxo gvardielebi 

Seecadnen: „Cvenma gvardielebma 

droze mouswres da danarCenebi 

gadaarCines. srolis 

dros moklul iqna cnobili yaCaRi 

azerbaijaneli Cafari. yaCaRebi 

sul 50 kacamde iyo, saxe gamuruli 

qondaT da cdilobdnen qarTulaT 

elaparaknaT. erT ltolvil 

qals namusi axades. yaCaRebs wau- 

RiaT sul 500 aTas maneTamde „nikolozis” 

fulebiT da amierkavkasiis 

bonebiT. miRebuli cnobebiT, 

kobaxCelSi am yaCaRTagan ramodenime 

kaci SeupyriaT”. 

saintereso SemTxvevaa aRwerili 


28 dekembris nomerSi, saidanac 

irkveva, rom viRac ucnobi 

pirebi dakavebuli yaCaRebis daxsnas 

quCaSi, miliciis badragze TavdasxmiT 

Seecadnen: „dekembris 24- 

s, nasadilevs, merve ubnis komisariatidan 

eqvss milicioners mohyav- 

qmedma esrola milicionerebs didis 

Zalis asafeTqebeli „granati”, 

romelic iqve gaskda da daaretiana 

erTi milicionerTagani. tusaRebma 

gaqceva daapires, magram milicionerebma 

maT srola autexes 

da samson siraZe mZimed dasWres, 

danarCenebi ki daxoces. gaqceul 

granatis gadmomgdeb borot momqmedTa 

SesapyrobaT miRebulia zomebi. 

swarmoebs gamoZieba; daSavebuli 

milicioneri, moklulTa gvamebi 

da daWrili siraZe gagzavnes 

aramiancis saavadmyofoSi”. 

Tbilisis ambebi 


1919 wlis 5 dekembris nomerSi 

gamoqveynebuli cnobis Tanaxmad, 

moZraoba daiketa veris xidze 

(amJamindeli galaktionis xidi). 

2 dekembers qalaqis gamgeobis sxdomaze 

gamgeobis wevrma beseliZem 

moxseneba gaakeTa, romlis mixedvi- 

Tac veris xidi gadaudebel SekeTebas 

moiTxovda. rogorc irkveva, 

xidi saSiS mdgomareobaSi iyo. dampali 

iyo ZiriTadi ficrebi, rac 

safrTxes uqmnida transportis 

gadaadgilebas. gamgeobis dadgenilebiT, 

sanam xidis saremonto samuSaoebi 

mimdinareobda, xidze 

ikrZaleboda tramvais, etlisa da 

avtomobilebis moZraoba. 

Tbilisis gamgeobis 25 dekembris 

sxdomaze ki qalaqSi zogierTi 

Zeglis aRebaze imsjeles. saubari 

iyo mefis ruseTis dros gaxsnil 

Zeglebze, romelic saqarTvelos 

demokratiuli respublikisTvis 

miuRebeli gaxda. sxdomaze daadgines, 

voroncovisa da griazovis Zeglebis 

moxsna, agreTve imperatoris 

gadarCenis aRsaniSnavad veris 

aRmarTze dadgmuli jvris demontaJi. 

qalaqis mouravma benia CxikviSvilma 

gamgeobas acnoba, rom cnobilma 

qarTvelma mecenatma da mewarme 

akaki xoStariam sergis qu- 

Caze mdebare Tavisi saxli 180 girvanqa 

sterlingad didi britaneTis 

diplomatiur misias miaqirava. 

xoStaria am Tanxis naxevars _ oTxmocdaaT 

girvanqa sterlings, qalaqs 

saganmanaTleblo miznebisTvis 

gadascemda. CxikviSvili gamgeobas 

sTxovda ganesazRvraT, Tu raSi 

daxarjavda qalaqi am Tanxas. gamgeobis 

dadgenilebiT xoStarias 

Semowiruloba qalaqis dawyebiTi 

skolis moswavleebisTvis saaxalwlo 

naZvis xis mowyobas moxmardeboda. 

telefoniT sargeblobis wesebi 


1919 wlis 25 dekembris nomerSi 

dabeWdilia sakmaod saintereso 

informacia, romelic TbilisSi 

telefoniT sargeblobis 

wesebs exeba. rogorc irkveva, es 

wesebi 1920 wlis pirveli ianvridan 

amoqmeddeboda da dawvrilebiT 

iyo axsnili, Tu rogor unda 

esargebla abonents telefoniT, 

risi ufleba hqonda da ra ekrZaleboda 

mas. axali wesebi moqalaqeebs 

erTgvar cenzurasac ki uwesebda 

da sasaubro xmis tembrsac 

ki gansazRvravda. amonaridi dadgenilebidan: 

„gamomZaxebeli: 1. unda 

aiRos mikrotelefonis tari, 

anu sasmeni, miidos yurze da elodos 

mTavar sadguris (centralnaia) 

gamoxmaurebas. 2. rogorc ki telefonisti 

qali upasuxebs: „sadguri”, 

unda dausaxelos mxolod 

nomeri abonentisa, visTanac laparaki 

surs. nomeri unda warmois- 

Tqvas saSualo xmiT, garkveulaT... 

zedmeti sityvebi rogorc: „Semier- 

TeT”, „gTxovT SemaerToT” esa da 

es nomeri da sxva srulebiT ar 

unda iqmnas daSvebuli abonentebis 

mier, radgan telefonist qals 

usargebloT akargvineben met 

dros da agvianeben sxva abonentebTan 

pasuxs. 3. Tu telefonisti 

qali upasuxebs: „mzad aris”, maSin 

unda daelodos gamoZaxebuli nomris 

pasuxs. 4. Tu ukanasknelma did 

xans ar upasuxa unda mikrotelefonis 

tari (sasmeni) dakidos, an 

dasdos (rodesac dasadgami telefonia) 

Tavis alagas da erTi an 

meti wuTis Semdeg xelaxla gaimeoros 

gamoZaxeba zemoxsenebuli 

wesiT. 

saerTod: 9. telefonisti qalebi 

samsaxuris dros valdebulni 

arian ixmaron mxolod saxelmwifoebrivi 

ena. ara aqvT abonentebisTvis 

raime axsna-ganmartebis micemis 

da xangrZlivi laparakis ufleba. 

maTi laparaki abonentebTan 

gansazRvrulia sityvebiT: „sadguri” 

(centralnaia), „saqalaqTa- 

Soriso” (meJdugorodnaia), „saer- 

TaSoriso” (meJdunarodnaia), „mzad 

aris” (gotovo), „dakavebulia” (zaniato), 

„ar gvpasuxobs” (ne otve- 

Caiut), „dazianebulia” (povreJdeno) 

da amitom abonentma maT ar 

unda mimarTon sxva gvari moTxovnilebiT. 

10 telefonisti qalebi 

valdebulni ar arian zepirad 

icodnen yvela abonentebis nomrebi 

da amitom abonenti valdebulia 

TviTon icodes da dausaxelos gamosaZaxebeli 

abonentis nomeri.... 

17. abonentebs sastikad ekrZalebaT 

TavianTi telefonebis gaqiraveba 

sxva pirebze. Tu aseTi 

borot moqmedeba aRmoCndeba, aparati 

moixsneba da abonents gadaxdeba 

mTeli vadis qira. 18. akrZalulia 

telefoniT iseTi cnobebis 

gadacema, romelTa Sinaarsi ewinaaRmdegeba 

kanonebs, sazogadoebriv 

zneobas da zrdilobas. mTavrobis 

winaSe pasuxismgebloba aseT 

SemTxvevebSi ekisreba TviT abonents. 

sammarTvelos ufrosi mgelaZe”. 

kultura 

1919 wlis dekembris miwuruls 

saqarTvelos kulturul cxovrebaSi 

mniSvnelovani movlena moxda: 

28 dekembers rusTavelis gamzirze 

sazeimod gaixsna artistuli kafeklubi 

„qimerioni”, romlic qarTvel 

xelovanTa udavo centrad gadaiqca. 

misi kedlebi cnobili mxatvrebis 

unikalur gamofenas warmoadgenda. 

es iyo sergei sudeikinis, 

kirile zdaneviCis, sigizmund 

valiSevskis, lado gudiaSvilis, 

daviT kakabaZis, mama-Svili mose da 

irakli ToiZeebis Semoqmedeba. 

alegoriiTa da simboloebiT gajerebuli 

naxatebi, saidanac 

qimerebi da nimfa-satirebi imzirebodnen. 

cnobadis xesTan mdgari 

paolo iaSvili; pieros mosasxamSi 

gaxveuli tician tabiZe; sudeikinis 

avtoportreti, sadac mxatvars 

xelSi sarke ekava da frTosani demonis 

saxe hqonda. 

am sazeimo RonisZiebas eswrebodnen: 

britaneTis komisari oliver 

uordropi, mekavSire saxelmwifoTa 

komisari polkovniki gaskeli, 

sagareo saqmeTa ministris 

amxanagi qarcivaZe. gaimarTa sadResaswaulo 

banketi, romelsac Tamadobda 

qalaqis Tavi CxikviSvili. 

warmoiTqva qarTveli literatorebisa 

da qarTuli xelovnebis uamravi 

sadRegrZelo. 

sazeimo gaxsnis wina dRes _ 27 

dekembers ki axal klubSi mweral- 

Ta pirveli kreba Catarda. amis 

Sesaxeb gazeT „saqarTvelos respublikis” 

30 ianvris nomeri mogviTxrobs: 

„kreba gaixsna saRamos 8 

saaTze. pirvelad moxsenda damswreT, 

Tu ra gaukeTebia sabWos 

dRemde. rogorc gamoirkva, „qimerions” 

SeuZlia sxvaTa Soris niv- 

Tieri sargeblianobis motanac 

qarTvel mweralTa sabWosaTvis. 

marTalia is kerZo pirs aqvs gadacemuli, 

magram sabWos Tavis xarjze 

ar SeeZlo misi mowyoba da 

Seurigda aseT garemoebas. „qimerioni” 

daxatulia aRmosavleTuri 

stiliT, da yovel suraTs atyvia 

gamocdili xelovanis dakvirvebuli 

xeli. 

kreba dasrulda da gaimarTa 

zeimi. am krebaze gamocxadebuli 

iyvnen TiTqmis tfilisSi mcxovrebi 

yvela mwerlebi, rogorc axalgazrdebi, 

ise mxcovannic. damfuZnebeli 

krebis xelovnebis komisiis 

wevrni, qalaqis Tavi da sxva. 

zeimi gaxsna sabWos Tavmjdomare 

kote mayaSvilma, romelic erTxmad 

arCeul iqmna TamadaT. daiwyo sadRegrZeloebi, 

gaimarTa qarTuli 

lxini, simReras da Rreobas scvlida 

poetis cecxliT aRgznebuli 

sityvebi. sityvebi warmoTqves: paolo 

iaSvilma, vasil barnovma, ivane 

rostomaSvilma, miSa arseniZem, 

araz axnazarovma, sandro SanSiaSvilma, 

tician tabiZem da sxv. 

leqsebi warmoTqves: S. amirejibma, 

v. ruxaZem, l. jafariZem. iv. yifianma, 

faSaliSvilma, xariton vardoSvilma, 

obol muSam da sxv. zeimi 

dasrulda Ramis 3 saaTze”. 

13 dekembers didebis taZarSi 

gaixsna qarTvel mxatvarTa suraTebis 

gamofena. warmodgenili 

iyo 400-mde namuSevari. saxazino 

TeatrSi daidga viqtor doliZis 

axali komediuri opera qarTul 

enaze „qeTo da kote”, romlis siuJetic 

aRebuli iyo avqsenti cagarelis 

mier 1882 wels dawerili 

komediuri piesa „xanumadan”. 

1919 wlis dekemberSi qarTulma 

kulturam didi danaklisi ganicada. 

3 dekembers gardaicvala 

qarTveli kompozitori nikoloz 

sulxaniSvili, romelic qarTul 

sagundo nawarmoebebsa da ariebs 

qmnida. gazeTi „saqarTvelos respublika” 

9 dekembris nomerSi kompozitoris 

dakrZalvis Sesaxeb 

Semdeg cnobas aqveynebs: „kviras, 

dilis cxra saaTze wirva daiwyo 

qvaSveTis eklesiaSi. jer kidev 

wirvis dawyebamde didZal sazogadoebas 

moeyara Tavi. mwirveli iyo 

episkoposi piros alaverdeli, 

wirvis dasrulebisas anderZi augo 

sruliad saqarTvelos kaTalikosma 

leonidem. Semdeg cxedari musikosebma 

da kompozitorebma gamoasvenes 

eklesiis galavanSi. aq 

sityva warmosTqva samusiko saswavleblis 

warmomadgenelma vl. emxuvarma, 

„kapelam” Seasrula gansvenebulis 

himn-locva „RmerTo-mowyaleo”. 

himnis dasrulebis Semdeg 

cxedari didZali pativiscemlebis 

TanxlebiT waasvenes rusTavelis 

quCiT sasaflaosken. galobda sxva 

da sxva mgalobelTa gundebi, ukravda 

orkestri. sasaflaosTan sityva 

warmosTqva vaxtang kotetiSvilma 

da rkinis gzis centralur 

kavSiris warmomadgenelma, ris Semdeg 

cxedari dakrZalul iqna didubis 

qarTvel moRvaweTa panTeonSi”. 

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mibaZeT 

militos! 

qarTul fexburTSi xmis amomRebi aravin Cans 

qarTul fexburTs Zvel-axali 

xelmZRvaneli hyavs. levan kobiaSvili 

kidev oTxi weli gauZRveba samyaros, 

romelic SesaSuri erTsulovnebiT 

airCies. ar aRmoCnda adamiani, 

romelic gaprezidentebis 

Tu ara, problemebze saubris mizniT 

mainc CaerTveboda kampaniaSi 

da yrilobas tribunad gamoiyenebda. 

rao, problemebi ar gvaqvs, Tu?! 

gaauqmeT saxelmwifo dotacia, 

romelic ganviTarebis programa ki 

ara, xSir SemTxvevaSi, fizkulturis 

xorcmeti dolaberiZeebis saxelfaso 

fondia. CaxseniT klubebi 

adgilobrivi biujetidanac, mou- 

ZebneT kerZo mesakuTreebi da mere 

SevxedoT realur suraTs. ar vmalav: 

gvixaria, rom axalgazrda qarTvelebma 

evropis saSualo CempionatebSi 

fexis mokidebiT sanakrebo 

imedi Cagvisaxes, magram 

klubebs ra?! 

CvenTan xom, iSviaTi gamonaklisis 

garda, fexburTels erwlianze 

xangrZliv kontraqts ver sTavazoben 

da isic sezonis bolos ukapikod 

gadadis axal gundSi. maqsimaluri 

sargebeli is kapikebia, 

fexburTelis aRmzrdeli skolebi 

kompensaciis saxiT rom iReben. 

albaT brZanebT, kritika advilia, 

gamosavlis Zieba ki _ Znelio 

da specialurad amis pasuxad 

realuri magaliTi moviZieT: argentinuli 

„rasingi” 60-ian wlebSi 

libertadoresis Tass flobda, 

mere ki sam aTeul welze metiT 

TiTqmis gaqra safexburTo rukidan 

manam, sanam gundSi realuri lideri 

ar gamoCnda _ diego milito. 

gexsomebaT es mudam dinji, aristokratuli 

da sityvaZunwi argentineli, 

„rasings” 2001 welsve Cempionoba 

rom daubruna. mere sa- 

Sualo evropul gundebSi iburTava; 

„saragosa” da „jenoa” moiara da 

karieris pikze milanis „interSi” 

aRmoCnda. 2010 wlis CempionTa 

ligis finalSi mis mier „baiernis” 

karSi gatanili wyvili golic exsomeba 

qomags. 2014 wels milito 

argentinaSi dabrunda, deputatoba 

an ministroba azradac ar mosvlia, 

mSobliur „rasingSi” sportul 

direqtorad mivida da... 

namdvili saorganizacio-marketinguli 

revoluciac daiwyo: 

imave wels „rasingi” Cempioni 

gaxda, Tumca mTavari win iyo. diegom 

klubis xelmZRvanelobas sakuTari 

pirobebi wauyena: 

1. axali mwvrTnelis (aucileblad 

axalgazrdis) SerCevis prerogativa; 

2. aqcionerebis arCareva 

mis saqmianobaSi. 

militom mokle, saSualo da 

grZelvadiani strategia Camoayaliba, 

upirveles miznad ki TiToeuli 

TanamSromlis profesionalizacia 

daisaxa, rac igive resursebiT 

met efeqts moitanda. argentinuli 

klubebi, ZiriTadad, fexburTelTa 

gayidviT, abonementebis 

gayidviT da aqcionerTa xarjze 

arseboben. diegom fexburTelTa 

prezentaciis kultura SemoiRo 

da wamoiwyo aqcia: „me var milito 

_ me var aqcioneri~. Sedegad, erTi 

wlis ganmavlobaSi klubma 13 000 

axali aqcioneri SeiZina. 

militos samuSao principebia: 

– klubi saxelze maRla dgas; 

– erTi wava _ meore mova; 

– gayide ufri Zvirad, vidre 

iyide; 

– arasodes iyido Zvirad fexburTeli, 

Tu analogis moZieba 

safexburTo akademiaSi an qveda 

divizionSi SeiZleba; 

– gaakeTe aqcenti dacviTi yaidis 

moTamaSeebze. maTze evropaSi 

meti moTxovnaa. 

roca mwvrTnelma eduardo kudem 

militis ori gamocdili sayrdeni 

mosTxova, man oriode milionad 

daimata Ciles nakrebis wevri 

marselo diasi, leon sigali da 

safexburTo akademiidan federiko 

siraCo. samagierod, gamoaTavisufla 

lautaria martnesi da xuan 

mesi. pirvelis „interSi”, meoris ki 

„seltaSi” gayidviT klubma 27 milioni 

evro miiRo. 

militos sigiJed CauTvales 

klubis StatSi erTbaSad oTxi skautis 

ayvana. isini qveda ligis mat- 

Cebsa da bavSvTa tyrnirebs eswrebian. 

Tu 2018 wlis ianvarSi „rasingis” 

bazaSi 157 fexburTelis monacemi 

iyo, zafxulisTvis maTi 

ricxvi 347-mde gaizarda. 

skautebi Ciles, kolumbiisa da 

venesuelis qveda ligebis matCebsac 

ki eswrebian. am biWebidan saukeTesoni 

mere „rasingSi” dafrTiandebian. 

diegos uyvars gamoTqma: 

„Sveicarielebma ician saaTebis 

keTeba, Cven ki _ fexburTelebis 

aRzrda”. 

Tavad militos Sesaxeb saukeTesod, 

albaT, samuel etoom Tqva: 

„milito moedanze aT kacs udris, 

moednis miRma ki _ TxuTmets”. 

ratom movyeviT amxela istoria? 

gamgebi gaigebs, dReniadag 

naCuqari Tevzis molodins ki namdvilad 

sjobs ankesis moZieba. 

saCogburTo sekvestri 

CogburTis saerTaSoriso federaciam 2017 wels dawyebuli reformis 

pirveladi Sedegebi Seajama, romelic araTu damaimedebeli, katas- 

trofuli aRmoCnda. ITF-m gamoikvlia, rom msoflioSi, daaxloebiT, 

14 000 profesionali CogburTelia daregistrirebuli, Tumca aqedan 

mxolod 600 (350 mamakaci da 250 qali) Soulobs imdens, rom sakuTari 

Tavi daafinansos. aman aristokratTa sportad aRiarebul CogburT- 

Si uamravi sibinZure moitana. ATP da WTA-s egidiT gamarTul 

turnirebs yvela dainteresebuli mxare mikroskopis qveS atarebs da 

mamaZaRlobac naklebia, magram „Celenjerze” da gansakuTrebiT „fi- 

uCersze” garigebuli matCebis raodenoba katastrofulia. reformis 

mizani iyo vaJTa da qalTa Soris 750-750 profesionalis datoveba, 

danarCens ki rTuli da ekliani gzis gavla uwevT. 15-aTasian „fiuCersze” 

mxolod Tanxebi da piradi qulebi TamaSdeba. am qulebis mixed- 

viT CogburTeli xvdeba 25-aTasiani „Celenjeris” sakvalifikacio 

etapze, sadac ukve ATP-is qulebi TamaSdeba. gamoTvales, rom sports- 

mens pirveli aseTi qulebis mopovebidan top-100-mde, saSualod, 4,8 

weli sWirdeba. sul es aris? ras brZanebT! „fiuCersi” did fuls ar 

iZleva da CogburTelebi iseT adgilebs amjobineben, sadac ramden- 

ime turniri zedized tardeba _ am dros gzis xarji naklebia. 

situacias maleve auRes alRo turistulma qveynebma: tunisSi, 

egvipteSi, TurqeTSi sastumroebi 15-aTasian turnirebs marTaven, 

iRond monawileTaTvis savaldebuloa am sastumroSi cxovreba da 

xarjic amoRebulia! aris turnirebi, romlis sakvalifikacio etapze 

daSvebisTvisac 40 dolars iTxoven, arada, sakvalifikacio etapze arc 

fuladi prizebia da arc _ sareitingo qulebi. 

mokled: saCogburTo samyaroSi garegnuli brwyinvalebis miRma seriozuli 

ajafsandalia. aman topCogburTelebic aamxedra. jon mil- 

mani da sesil karatanCeva Riad akritikeben ATF-s: 

„maT mxolod topaseulis CogburTelebi da didi slemis turnirebi 

ainteresebT, romelsac milionebi moaqvs. yvela danarCenisTvis Cog- 

burTi daxures”. SegiZliaT, Tvali miadevnoT sportul saagentoebs 

_ garigebuli matCebi yoveldRiurobad iqca. yvela xvdeba, rom ase 

aRar SeiZleba, magram aravin icis, rogor. 

38 

luka? _ dResve lebronze meti! 

sruliad sakalaTburTo amerikas 

dRes erTi 19 wlis slovenieli 

biWis saxeli akeria pirze. NBA- 

Si feeriuli debiuti vis ar hqonia, 

magram luka donCiCma yvela da 

yvelaferi gadafara. 

amboben, rom lukam kariera iseve 

da ufro STambeWdavadac ki 

daiwyo, vidre lebron jeimsma. arada, 

nu dagaviwydebaT, rom axalgazrda 

lebroni draftis pirvel 

nomrad da 100-milioniani sareklamo 

kontraqtiT mivida NBA-Si. 

mimdinare sezons ori gamokveTili 

lideri hyavs. 

sezonis MVP-is titulisTvis 

adetokumbos da hardenis dueli 

grZeldeba, axalbedebs Soris ki 

yvelaferi gadawyvetilia. luka 

donCiCi namdvili dominatoria, 

arada, sayovelTao mosazrebiT, XXI 

saukuneSi ligam erT-erTi sauke- 

Teso Sevseba miiRo. dRes donCiCi 

„dalasis” namdvili lideria. moedanze 

saSualod gatarebul 32,2 

wuTSi slovenieli aseve saSualod 

20,8 qulas, 7,1 moxsnas, 5,5 passa da 

1,1 CaWras asrulebs. 

aq mTavari statistika ar aris. 

nebismier varskvlavs SeuZlia, 

rTuli situaciidan gamoZvres, fantastikuri 

traeqtoriiT Caagdos, 

magram yvelas ar SeuZlia, urTules 

situaciaSi lideroba iTavos 

da gundi gamarjvebamde miiyvanos. 

lukas es SeuZlia. roca gunds uWirs, 

luka burTs iRebs da omobs. 

mas SeuZlia, piradad moutanos 

gunds zedized 9-10 qula. 

bolo 6 TveSi ukanasknel wuTze 

lukam 16 tyorcna Seasrula, romelic 

aTanabrebda angariSs an win 

gahyavda „dalasi”. aqedan 11 tyorcna 

(70%) lukam Caagdo _ asakisTvis 

Seuferebeli civsisxlianobaa. 

xSirad karg individualistebs 

ufro mets miaweren, vidre realurad 

arian. donCiCi ukve dgams „soloebs”. 

an ra gasakviria? _ 16 wlisa 

ukve madridis „realSi” Tama- 

Sobda. 2017 wels evropis Cempionatis 

simbolur xuTeulSi moxvda. 

2018 wels evroligis sezonisa 

da oTxTa finalis MVP-is titulebi 

mianiWes, evroligis amomaval 

varskvlavad aRiares da espaneTis 

Cempionatis MVP-is titulic 

ar daiSures. Carlz barkli: 

„donCiCi pirveli TeTrkaniani 

kalaTburTeli gaxdeba, visi maisuriTac 

harlemeli patara biWebi 

ezoSi kalaTburTs iTamaSeben”. 

ar vendoT barklis? 

38 N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w.


avWalis qaro... 

movigeT da es yvelaze mTavaria. Sou ki 

ver Sedga, radga dRes saRamos mTavari 

Soumeni qari iyo, romelmac fexiT 

TamaSi aukrZala gundebs da Tu vinmem 

gabeda, anana kidec. 

24:10 dasrulda. sxvaoba erTi 

quliT meti aRmoCnda, vidre 

SarSan, magram es aramc da 

aramc ar niSnavs Cveni gundis 

kritikas. es ufro 

metoqisTvis sakadrisi 

pativis migebaa - Tu espanelebma 

progresi msgavsi 

tempiT ganagr- 

Zes, oriod welSi Tundac 

saSinao Sexvedrebs 

mTlad guldamSvidebulni 

ver 

davxvdebiT. aferum 

espanelTa Tavmdabal 

damrigebels, 

winasamatCo preskonferenciaze 

calsaxa 

favoritebad rom Segvracxa 

da mere ki bolo 

wuTamde gveoma. 

Cveni nakrebis TamaSSi, 

bunebrivia, gacilebiT meti 

iyo klasic da Tavdajerebac. 

Tu sajarimos da realizaciebs 

ar CavTvliT, borjRalosnebma 

qaric ki sakuTar 

samsaxurSi Caayenes. milton heigma 

debiutantebSic gamoicno da qerdiyoSvils 

lelo gansakuTrebulad 

amadac miuloces. meore sanakrebo SexvedraSi 

pirveli lelo miiTvala daTo 

gigaurmac. 

espanelebma Rirseulad iomes im komponentebSic 

ki, mTeli msiflio qarTvelTa 

kozirad rom miiCnevs bevri gundi 

ginaxavT; jarimis magier CvenebTan Serkineba 

aerCios? molSi bevrma dagvatriala? 

raqSi bevrma agvarTva burTi? xval es espaneTi 

daRvindeba da Cinevuli gundi dadgeba. 

dRes ki Cveni dRea - damsaxurebuli gamarjvebis, 

romelic birjRalosanTa tolsworad im qomagebs 

ekuTvniT, susxis da qaris miuxedavad rom 

uerTgules sakuTar jilebs. 

ha, Tqven TiTo 

miliardi da... 

dausruleblad 

ver gagrZeldeboda 

„manCester iunaited- 

Si” ole gunar sulS- 

eris waugebeli seria, 

Tumca katastrofad 

amas „old trafor- 

fzec” ki ar miiCneven. 

gasul kviraSi klubma 

TiTqmis oci mil- 

ioni girvanqa sterl- 

ingis sanacvlod sab- 

olood 

gaistumra 

Joze mourinio da mo- 

mavlisac naklebad 

eSinia. safexburTo 

aspeqtebs ar CavuR- 

rmavdebiT, magram man- 

Cesteruli klubi se- 

riozuli finansuri 

cdunebis pirispir ki 

aRmoCnda. „wiTeli eS- 

makebis” SeZena saudis 

arabeTis princ muhamed ben salmans amouWria gulSi da ukan daxevas ar 

apirebs. Seixma iseTi SeTavazeba gaugzavna „manCesteris” mflobel amerikel 

Zmeb gleizerebs, romelze uaris Tqmasac nebismieri biznesmeni saukunis 

Secdomad monaTlavda. ben salmanma amerikelebs 3,8 miliardi funti sterlingi 

SesTavaza, rac dolarebSi, daaxloebiT, erTi miliardiT metia. san- 

acvlod, princi garigebis momavali sezonis dawyebamde gaformebas iTxovs. 

dRevandeli mdgomareobiT manCesterelTa aqtivebis maqsimaluri fasi 1,6 

miliard girvanqas ar aRemateba da Tu gleizerebi „gatydnen”, maTi sufTa 

mogeba 2,2 miliardi funti gamodis. iseTi piri uCans, uaxloesi Tveebis 

ganmavlobaSi es evropuli fexburTis erT-erTi yvelaze ganxilvadi Tema 

iqneba. 

megole pensioneri 

N5 (266) 19.02-25.02.2019 w. 

TiTqos logikis CarCoebSi ar 

jdeba, magram faqtia: klaudio 

pizarom 96-e wuTze gautana berlinis 

„hertas” da 40 wlis asakSi 

uxnesi fexburTeli Seiqna, visac 

germanul bundesligaSi gautania. 

pizaro aseve erTaderTia, vinc pirveli 

da, jerjerobiT, ukanaskneli 

golebi bundesligaSi 21-wliani 

intervaliT gaitana. pizaro, 

zogadad, pirveli peruelia, romelmac 

bundesligis klubis maisuri 

moirgo. pizarosa da bremenis 

„verderis” siyvarulis istoria, 

jer kidev, gasul saukuneSi 

daiwyo. 1999 wels 19 wlis debiutantma 

pirvelive SexvedraSi „kaizers” 

gautana, ramdenime dReSi ki 

„volfsburgTan” sulac heT-Triki 

Seasrula. ramdenjerme wavida 

klaudio bremenidan, magram zustad 

imdenivejer dabrunda: 2009/ 

12 _ dabrunda „Celsidan”; 2015/17 

_ dabrunda „baiernidan”; 2018 _ 

dabrunda „kiolnidan”. Taviseburi 

kacia. uyvars ludi da manqanebi. 

am ori siyvarulis aRrevis gamo 

bevrjer daujarimebiaT klub- 

Si. eg ki ara, fexmsubuq qalebTan 

garTobis braldebiT nakrebidanac 

ki mokveTes, klaudio ki adga 

da sakuTari qveynis fexburTis 

federacias sasamarTlo procesi 

mougo. kidev erTi didi siyvaruli 

aqvs _ cxenebi. peruSi didi da 

cnobili cxensaSeni aqvs, magram es 

mainc meorea. pirveli? ra Tqma 

unda, „verderi”. 

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